=== RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosredna [n=michael@01-156.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-149-101-35.range86-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === TheGoodShepherd [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Marco [n=marco@adsl-8-148-213.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === sn9 [n=knoppix@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:22] #ubuntu+2 does not properly forward to #ubuntu+1 === junmin [n=junmin@201.151.218.138] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:30] hi .. i am using feisty, but i installed compiz fusion using "sudo apt-get -t gutsy install compiz-fusion* compizconfig-setting-manager" ... then when i run "compiz --replace", it doesnt show the window borders. the video card is intel x3100. can somebody help me? i have been working on this since yesterday, but get no resolved. :( [01:33] are there errors at the command line? [01:34] junmin: ^^ === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:38] junmin: lol [01:38] install the ccsm and make sure that the window decorations are on [01:42] is there a PAM solution for kwallet like the one for gnome in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager ? === pi3 [n=sebas@11-251-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:00] Argh, my delete key is broken. === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === skkane [n=skkane@89.33.59.156] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:04] why do i always have to reinstall the nvidia driver after a reboot ? [02:04] i hate it === fignew [n=fig@user-11212jk.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/105756 [02:06] Launchpad bug 105756 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "DISABLED_MODULES="nv" doesn't stop nvidia_new.ko from loading" [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:06] DanaG, i'm not using the restricted driver, i'm using the 100.14.11 from nvidia.com ..... [02:07] But that's what breaks it.... it keeps overwriting it with the packaged one. [02:08] ooh [02:08] any fix for it? [02:08] DISABLED_MODULES="nv nvidia_new" [02:08] Just be aware: for me, the 100.14.11 would often lock up xorg on compiz exit. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:09] crdlb, you're here also, thanks :) [02:09] If you don't have that issue, then you don't have to worry, but be aware that it exists. [02:09] DanaG, don't have that issue on my other distro [02:09] i'm just testing on this anyway so no probs if it locks or anything... [02:10] Oh, and if it locks, ctrl-alt-backspace won't work, but alt-sysrq-k should. [02:17] Hah, Azureus's tooltips are bugged. [02:17] Anything without a tooltip explicitly set gets a tooltip of "Close". [02:17] (without quotes or period.) [02:18] And plugin-helper is missing. === skkane [n=skkane@89.33.59.156] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:22] ok, xorg just crashed, lol [02:22] does it crash with any 100 series driver or just 100.14.11 ? [02:22] Any 100 series driver we've seen so far. [02:23] Presumably they'll fix it at some point. === johnnybouy [i=johnny@gateway/tor/x-addf7edead990e4f] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:23] so i have to go back to 9755? :/ [02:23] Yup. [02:23] ok, tkz [02:23] Why not? Newer != better [02:23] i'm using 100.14.11 on slack without any problems with fusion and everything... 9755 gives me worse performace [02:23] lol [02:24] anyway, brb, gonna install that === mister_roboto [n=jrk@216-80-50-172.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:26] Ome of myyyy bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/111145 [02:26] Launchpad bug 111145 in linux-source-2.6.20 "sigmatel STAC9250 on ATI HDA SB on gateway laptop - no sound capture " [Low,New] [02:27] er, I responded to, not posted. [02:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/121833 [02:27] Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off between brightness levels during fades, and when on battery or at idle" [Undecided,New] === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-57-176-212.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybouy is now known as johnnybuoy === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-57-176-212.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-156.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === skkane [n=skkane@89.33.59.156] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:31] can't start x with 9755... "couldn't find module "glx", couldn't find module "nvidia"" [02:31] installed 100.14.09 === gpd454 [i=gpd454@devnu11.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:32] skkane: how did you install it? [02:32] sh NVIdia..... [02:32] normal way [02:33] skkane: ah ok, not from the repositories.. [02:33] nah [02:33] I kinda' like the way I have my compiz animations set. [02:33] skkane: For future reference "Normal way" is "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-new" :) [02:34] Show/hide are these: Normal window: dream/sidekick. Menu: vacuum/vacuum. Tooltip: Fade/Fade. [02:34] RAOF, i don't like that method ;) [02:34] Mininize and Maximize are magic lamp. [02:34] DanaG: hey, I can't get compiz working with XGL at all! no window decorations. [02:34] Hmm, what happens if you try to run (in console) gtk-window-decorator --replace ? [02:35] Oh, run it with '&' after it and use 'exit' (not the button) to close the terminal when done. [02:35] You might want to put a "disown %1" in there somewhere :) [02:39] E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_commercial_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) [02:39] on sudo apt-get build-dep compiz [02:39] ... [02:40] it worked fine on tribe3 [02:41] Remove the commercial repo from your sources.list? [02:42] That'll fix i [02:42] sound is not working either altough alxamixer shows my card just fine [02:42] :/ [02:44] E: Build-dependencies for compiz could not be satisfied. [02:44] What is disown? [02:44] Wicked. You've really messed up your apt :) [02:44] DanaG: "This job is no longer associated with this terminal" [02:45] DanaG: So, basically, it doesn't die when the terminal dies, and it doesn't spit stuff to the terminal's stdout, etc. [02:45] Aah. I figured that out when I did "help disown" [02:45] Heh [02:45] But you want it to spit to stdout, and if you just exit after the detach, it works. [02:45] I mean, you can see it, and you can exit. === verb3k_ [n=verb@87.109.22.146] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:48] Please guys help .....I have a nvidia card and when I run the restricted drivers manager and hit enable driver nothing happens ...what's the problem? [02:50] Please guys help .....I have a nvidia card and when I run the restricted drivers manager and hit enable driver nothing happens ...what's the problem? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-156.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:05] How do i keep this from happening when compiling programs [03:05] Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you [03:05] installed software in a non-standard prefix. [03:05] Alternatively, you may set the environment variables PACKAGE_CFLAGS [03:05] and PACKAGE_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. [03:05] See the pkg-config man page for more details. === DShepherd [n=dwight@72.252.133.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:09] Can somebody try showkey in console, and press and release the 'del' key? I get this: [03:09] 0x6f 0xef [03:10] Oddly, delete works on console, but is broken in Xorg. === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-156.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:14] anyone else playing around with powertop? === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:16] Instabin: By installing the appropirate -dev packages === defendguin [n=justin@ip5-155.tvmax-fiber-1.hou.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:19] Oh yay, sometimes scrolling will lock up Xorg for a few seconds. [03:20] RAOF: what do i need to install [03:21] i've run into a bit of an issue running gutsy and i was curious if anyone else was experiencing it. i am not sure if i caused it myself by tinkering. all of a sudden the usplash doesn't work properly. the bar only moves a tiny amount and then it goes right back to text mode. could some one look at the kernel line from their gurb menu.list file and paste it here? [03:21] Instabin, depends on what's missing [03:21] crdlb: it says gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 and gthread-2.0 [03:21] all those are missing? [03:21] what are you compiling? [03:22] !compile [03:22] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!) [03:22] gpredict 0.8.0 [03:22] and the thing to dump the nvidia card for the nv driver [03:22] the reverse enginering for the 3d support... [03:22] Instabin: You mean renouveau? Cool. === reep [n=geirha@bl242a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:22] RAOF yes [03:23] RAOF: I have 3 cards i can dump [03:23] Instabin: If you don't want to build that, you can wait a bit & I'll have it packaged in... [03:23] !nouveau [03:23] Nouveau is an experimental open-source nVidia driver, aiming for full 3d support. Homepage at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ - EXPERIMENTAL packages at https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~raof/+archive [03:23] Instabin: *Awesome*. Yay testable cards! [03:23] I have a 6800GT [03:23] on this system [03:24] and a 5xxx Series on another [03:24] RAOF: gutsy is getting a nouvea driver? [03:24] nosrednaekim: Not a chance :) [03:24] nosrednaekim: But I'm building them in my PPA. See that link. [03:24] awww (not like I have an nvidia). === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@acm.bw.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:25] Instabin: ahuillet's calling for Xv testing on RAOF: Wich one do I install [03:26] hey, any clue why compiz window decorations wouldn't be working within XGL? compiz didn't show any errors [03:26] Instabin: The -ahuillet branch, if you want to help him. Come join #nouveau :) [03:26] RAOF: cool === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === emet [n=emet@c-66-176-105-118.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:34] I'm hungry. [03:34] But I don't wanna make food. [03:34] Someone send me food through the internet [03:34] Find a way. [03:34] anyone know a little bit about usplash? [03:34] !botsnack [03:34] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [03:34] :O [03:34] bot is eating just to make me feel hungrier [03:34] SEE! === marginoferror [n=andrewsg@c-76-21-215-86.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === marginoferror [n=andrewsg@c-76-21-215-86.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mrsno__ [n=mrsno@cpc3-blfs3-0-0-cust868.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:53] is anyone else having a problem with usplash image not making it all the way through boot === False_Courage [n=lollersk@c-24-14-254-177.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jimmacdonald [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fignew [n=fig@user-112157t.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:19] I have a GeForce Go 7600. Aren't those quite very common? [04:20] Yes. [04:20] I have one. [04:20] DanaG, i have one too === Agrajag` [i=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [04:20] I find it funny that NVIDIA calls PCI Express "PCI-X". It's just plain WRONG! [04:21] PCIe != PCI-X. [04:22] DanaG: my brother has one and my friend does to... got he for like $25 [04:22] Oh, you mean the desktop card. Well, hopefully the 3D functions have no differences there. [04:23] Oh yeah, why is the "Plugin Finder" missing in Azureus? [04:23] And "Restart Azureus". [04:23] ah... missed the "go" [04:26] WTF? Home, End, and Del are all broken. [04:27] Oh, and down-arrow is now enter. [04:28] Up is Katakana. [04:28] Left is Henkan_Mode [04:28] Right is Muhenkan. [04:29] Okay, so "Evdev-managed Keyboard" is broken. [04:29] haha === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:30] Okay, so something is grabbing the delete key, but I can't tell what. === Instabin [n=instabin@oh-76-5-123-160.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:31] I have control of myself now, DanaG, you no longer can torture me with monkeys! -- HAL [04:31] Huh? [04:32] ever seen 2001 space odyssey? [04:32] Yeah, or at least I've read the book. I don't remember that quote. [04:33] its the theme.. a computer becomes self relient, makes a mistake and tried to conver up its mistake. [04:33] Oh, and my Firefox is all jiggly. 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[05:36] for a 200M, should I use ati driver or fglrx? [05:38] I dunno? [05:38] I have gutsy running on my laptop [05:38] it runs fine [05:38] d4rkmonkey: what video card on it? [05:39] slavik: Fglrx. There's no 3d with the free driver yet. === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:39] slavik, I'm not sure what the card itself is called, it has some weird name, but the chipset is Intel GM 965 I believ [05:40] RAOF: my x800 and x300 get accelaration (well, that';s what glxinfo says), but beryl does crash as soon as I move a window [05:40] d4rkmonkey: GMA950 :) [05:40] slavik: Then that's a beryl problem. [05:40] intel != amd/ati [05:40] RAOF: I was using it with the ati driver [05:40] Your 200M, however, won't get 3d with the free drivers. [05:40] k [05:41] slavik: Also, why beryl? Gutsy comes out of the box with Compiz fusion, which is better. [05:41] but fglrx doesn't have aiglx, right? [05:41] Yes. [05:41] Well, kinda. [05:41] RAOF: beryl is on feisty :P [05:41] what is libtoolize? [05:41] kinda? [05:41] and where do i get it [05:41] slavik: Then why are you asking this in #ubuntu+1? :P [05:41] because I am installing gutsy right now [05:41] Ah. [05:41] that was "past experience" [05:42] so, I need a "stuff changelog" === slavik hates amd [05:43] wheres the release schedule for gutsy found? === khoa [n=khoa@pool-68-236-30-76.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:43] !release [05:43] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [05:44] No, that's not it. [05:44] Eh. [05:44] yeah I did that before when I was looking for it [05:44] RAOF: so, gutsy won't be fair about scheduling tasks? [05:44] !schedule [05:44] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [05:44] RAOF: I also hear that gutsy has devicescape :), that true? [05:44] since upgrading to 7.10, i'm getting no TLS/SSL support in pidgin... any ideas? === burner_ [n=burner@c-67-172-157-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:45] khoa, uhh theres some packages, but I forget what they're called [05:45] khoa, did you install pidgin yourself in feisty? [05:45] slavik: If by that you mean "will not use the new, relatively untested core kernel component called CFS", then yes :) [05:45] yeah [05:45] anyone know where I can get a .deb of miro for gutsy? [05:45] khoa, uninstall that one, and install from gutsy repos. That should fix everything I think [05:45] burner_: In Universe Real Soon Now(tm) [05:45] d4rkmonkey: ok thanks, i'll try that right now [05:46] !miro [05:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about miro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [05:46] :( [05:46] burner_: And I wouldn't trust one of their builds to work :( === burner_ wishes real soon were yesterday ;) [05:46] RAOF: but gutsy is in development anyway [05:46] they don't build it for gutsy [05:46] only feisty... libboost problems with using their feisty pack with gutsy [05:46] Heh. [05:47] I should build a miro package this evening. === RAOF wishes Debian didn't have a broken libboost-python, so he could just merge a debian version. [05:48] you'd be my hero [05:48] i really miss the content on miro [05:48] whats miro? [05:48] You do know there's a working democracyplayer in the repos, right? [05:48] d4rkmonkey: www.getmiro.com [05:49] And that miro is just a minor version bump over democracy? [05:49] i did not [05:49] Miro is 0.9.8, democracy is 0.9.6(.5, I think) === burner_ remembers holding out for miro due to new artwork ;) [05:50] Install democracy now, get a free upgrade to Miro when I finish packaging it! [05:55] what's miro for? [05:56] It's a vodcast viewer thingy. [05:56] RSS feed with video. [05:56] For Channel Frederator! [05:58] RAOF: going to bed will check on your build for the nvidia driver tomorrow [05:58] K. [05:59] Maybe by then all the langpacks will have built and my job can get a look in :) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1CD25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] I'm getting a really really weird bug in gutsy [06:08] d4rkmonkey: still not working properly, googletalk and msn are throwing SSL errors [06:08] Sub-menus of context menus [06:08] don't work [06:08] the sub-menus display [06:08] but clicking the items closes the menu, but does nothing [06:08] khoa, theres some packages but I'm not sure what they're called [06:09] hmm [06:09] has anyone else experienced this [06:10] Works for me. [06:11] Hmm, I must say, this site has the best blue+orange theme I've ever seen. http://www.wiebetech.com/home2.php === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [06:13] RAOF, for seem reason it works if I right click the entries [06:14] Marco: Any program in particular? Gnome-terminal worked for me. [06:15] all [06:15] d4rk: yeah i guess this has gotten pretty screwed up... google doesn't have much advice for me either [06:15] besides the task bar === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:15] the taskbar works fine [06:16] Marco: Are you using Compiz? [06:17] RAOF, I first noticed it in compiz [06:17] happens in metacity too [06:17] understand that it's only submenus, [06:17] Hm. What can I say? Works for me :/ [06:18] has anyone else had problems with Pidgin (particularly TLS/SSL support) in 7.10? [06:18] I'm gonna submit the bug [06:18] khoa: No, works for me. === cps1966 [n=kane@204.183.116.161] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:20] how can I start gnome without compiz? [06:20] Um... by disabling desktop effects? [06:20] I wanna see if it's caused by some random compiz setting [06:21] RAOF, where? [06:21] >_> [06:21] Marco: Sys->Pref->Appearance->Desktop Effects [06:21] Marco: Are you running compiz with --loose-binding? [06:21] no [06:21] why? [06:22] Marco: Because that could be causing your problems :) [06:22] using it or not using it? === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:23] Marco: Using it. It's broken, and only ever works by accident. [06:23] unless that's the default, I've never used it [06:23] Ok. It's not default. [06:23] whenever I start compiz manually, I just run "compiz" [06:24] brb [06:24] gonna start gnome without compiz === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Marco [n=marco@adsl-8-148-213.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:25] the problem persists [06:28] reporting the bug now [06:28] Good plan [06:29] what package should I report it in? [06:29] *Maybe* gtk? [06:29] hmm, that's probably right [06:29] seeing as it happens in xchat too [06:29] If it's doing it for all apps. [06:29] (quickly checks kde apps) [06:29] ugh, I've non installed [06:30] :) That's not an ugh :) [06:30] heh [06:30] good point === d4rkmonkey [n=J-Red@CPE000bcd15b4ae-CM00195efba7ac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:31] what will uninstalling ubuntu-desktop do? [06:31] d4rkmonkey, depends how you uninstall [06:31] Marco, with apt-get [06:32] nothing will happen [06:32] the package will be gone [06:32] but nothing will change [06:32] though if applications are added to the default install by making ubuntu-desktop dependent on them [06:32] what does that package do though? [06:32] it's just a meta-package [06:32] that depends on gnome and friends [06:32] openoffice [06:32] and some others [06:32] oh ok [06:33] new packages are added to the default install [06:33] by making ubuntu-desktop require them [06:33] :) [06:33] hmm is there an easy way to uninstall then reinstall compiz-fusion? [06:33] you wanna purge the config? [06:33] uhhh I dunno? [06:33] lol [06:33] what's wrong? [06:33] whenever I enable it [06:33] it tells me that its disabled [06:33] though I can clearly see its enabled [06:34] and its always disabled when i start up [06:34] has it worked before? [06:37] not really [06:37] it works, it just disables itself [06:37] and its really annoying === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Infecto [i=infecto@gada.bezsensu.pl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chasetoys_ [n=chatzill@74-61-37-56.sea.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:41] hello has anyone here gotten compiz-fusion 0.5.2 working ? [06:41] RAOF, in case you're interested, I just submitted the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/132372 [06:41] Launchpad bug 132372 in gtk+2.0 "Submenus of context (right-click) menus don't work" [Undecided,New] [06:44] Is there a nice easy way to get certain commands to be run at shutdown? [06:44] By "easy", I mean, as easy as /etc/rc.local is for boot. [06:45] /etc/rc.local :) [06:45] That doesn't do at shutdown. [06:45] er, s/do/run/ [06:45] Should do. [06:45] I think. [06:45] Or maybe not. [06:46] Anyway, you could symlink something to the appropriate rc directory. [06:46] I just want to run "sudo killall -INT FAH500-Console.exe" [06:46] DanaG, rc.local runs at the END of any multiuser runlevel [06:46] that would happen right before a shutdown [06:46] (running Folding@home under Wine, so I can share workunits with Windows.) [06:47] DanaG, or, figure out what runlevel shutdown is (I always forget) [06:47] and put a script in /etc/rc6.d/ [06:47] replacing 6 with whatever the run level is [06:47] I think it actualy *is* 6 :) [06:48] do it for reboot and shutdown runlevels [06:48] Aah. [06:48] But what's the deal with S and K? [06:48] no clue [06:48] They change what gets sent to the script. [06:48] I'm no expert [06:48] S == start, K == stop. [06:49] Since you don't care either way... :) [06:50] so you'd make a new script, K99stopfold inside /etc/rc6.d/ [06:50] (don't use 99, I'm not sure what the numbering is) [06:50] it may be seconds [06:50] or milliseconds [06:50] I dunno [06:51] I could also make an /etc/init.d/folding@home [06:51] (yay, 'at' symbol in file name.) [06:51] that'd be fancier [06:52] That reminds me of a prank you could do: make a file with an annoying name on somebody's Windows desktop, with characters invalid for Windows filenames. [06:52] what does that do? [06:56] Makes it undeletable in Windows. [06:56] Makes an undeletable file, of course :) [06:56] Marco: Actually, it's the ordering. 00->01->...->99 [06:57] oh, ok === ion [n=ion@71-35-71-228.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.34.58] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:00] Can/t play video under compiz. :( [07:00] At least, not without dropping frames like crazy. [07:02] tried the video playback plugin? [07:03] apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager [07:03] then start it System->prefs->compizconfig... [07:03] and enable it [07:04] ...and watch as it does nothing. [07:04] :/ [07:04] Sadly, nothing uses the interface provided by the Video plugin. === MacSlow_ [n=mirco@dslb-084-063-103-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:05] oh, nice [07:05] :( [07:05] Except a patched mplayer. === ameyer [n=cheesebo@adsl-75-57-176-212.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF06DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jgoss [n=josh@unaffiliated/jgoss] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jdt [n=jdt@58.172.8.201] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:36] Dang. I always use kaffeine, with xine. [07:36] Argh, how do I make windows not steal focus in Metaacity? [07:37] If window X is in front and focused, and window Y wants focus, then it gets it and jumps to the front. [07:37] hi, has anyone experienced constant crashing of web browsers (firefox, konquerer and opera) in k/ubuntu? [07:37] Then if I click X again, it gets focus and stays in the back! [07:37] I have to click Y and then X yet again for it to work. === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf002.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-28-18.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === os2mac [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DerekS [n=DerekS@cpe-66-65-46-91.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === KjetilK [n=kjetil@cm-84.208.172.211.chello.no] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fignew [n=fig@user-1121tac.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tumbleweed [n=stefanor@dsl-240-122-29.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu+1 === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chand [n=rsamson@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:35] aRGH, how the heck do you install icon themes now? [08:36] nevermind, you have to use the Install button in the parent dialog. [08:38] Oh, and what can you do with the TrouSers TCS daemon? [08:38] That's awesome. === RAOF doesn't know, obviously [08:39] Note that that has to do with the "OMG EVIL!!!" (as many people say) TPM chip. [08:39] I'm just curious what it can be used for. [08:40] Oooh, cool. Hardware crypto can be fun. [08:40] Actually, I've heard that it's not hardware crypto, just hardware key storage. [08:40] i.e. it doesn't accelerate encryption, but it does give you keys in some way. [08:41] http://trousers.sourceforge.net/ === Xemanth [n=xemanth@hostf002.hamk.fi] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [08:41] eww, treacherouss computing [08:41] a M$ plot to kill (!winblows) [08:42] Not if I'm using it with Linux. [08:42] And any Vista issues are moot for me, since I have deleted that partition. === masterloki [n=mloki@75.80.5.221] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:42] when TC is used to make your computer refuse to run software that isn't signed by Microsoft... [08:43] In fact, Vista was so broken that the only way to fix it was to boot the install CD and nuke it from orbit. Instead, I just nuked it and made an ext3 partition. [08:43] I'll now only use XP and Gutsy. [08:43] it's unlikely they could do that without a BIOS update though [08:43] and nobody ever updates their BIOS [08:44] well, without a BIOS "upgrade" on current hardware [08:45] i having a problem with my printer can't print any thing in open office [08:46] and what would happen if I delete one of my root bin files [08:46] Oh, and I _can_ turn off the TPM chip in the BIOS. === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.218] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:46] If I can't do anything useful, I might as well remove the daemon. [08:47] I don't know that you can do anything useful with trousers [08:47] Besides wearing them. [08:47] (sorry, I couldn't resist the joke.) [08:47] heh === linxeh [n=linx@88-96-202-38.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:54]