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| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | Btw why classroom? | 02:03 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | less traffic | 02:03 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | you try anything else? | 02:03 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | no, not after the reinstall | 02:03 |
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| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | I was just about to cp/ln the file from usr/share/pycentral/python-cairo/site-packages/cairo/__init__.py to the version specific dirs | 02:03 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah, using ln would probably work, but you won't know why it failed to install | 02:04 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | and it happens constantly now without error during apt | 02:04 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | what does this command return: pyversions -vr all | 02:05 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | 2.4 2.5 | 02:05 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | hmm | 02:06 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | odd I know | 02:06 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | meanwhile what where the version-specific correct dirs to ln init to? | 02:06 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cairo/__init__.py -> /usr/share/pycentral/python-cairo/site-packages/cairo/__init__.py | 02:07 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | on feisty | 02:07 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | thanks | 02:07 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | what does purging want to do? | 02:07 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | what was the aptitude for it? | 02:08 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | aptitude purge python-cairo | 02:08 |
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| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | http://rafb.net/p/NGCf4P23.html | 02:09 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | ok, we wont do that | 02:10 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | maybe we can try dpkg | 02:10 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | it should purge it without caring that things will be temorarily broken | 02:10 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | --purge? | 02:10 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah | 02:10 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | hmm | 02:11 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | dpkg - warning: while removing python-cairo, directory `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/cairo' not empty so not removed. | 02:11 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I would rm -rf that | 02:11 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | there's a .la there | 02:11 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah I'll do that | 02:11 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | or just rename it | 02:11 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | I'll also do an apt-get clean to make the package redownload | 02:12 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, that's a good idea too | 02:12 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I'll be back in a few minutes | 02:12 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | no __init__ after install in either version | 02:13 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | dh_pycentral is supposed to be creating these things | 02:15 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | wouldn't it be easier to somehow change site.py so it adds /usr/share/pycentral to sys.path ? | 02:17 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | well that might mess things up because not all python scripts will work in both 2.4 and 2.5 | 02:18 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I just purged here and then installed and it worked :/ | 02:18 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | there's another module missing in 2.5 that's there in pycentral | 02:18 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | I'm feeling like doing a full python 2.5 reinstall | 02:19 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | sigh | 02:19 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | 1.2.0-1ubuntu2 is the version you have right? | 02:19 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | of python-cairo you mean? | 02:19 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah | 02:19 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | I wonder if I can use dh_pycentral by hand | 02:22 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | Lars_G: when you do 'apt-cache policy python-cairo' you get 1.2.0-1ubuntu2 ? | 02:25 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | yep | 02:26 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | how did I check/extract the scripts from the .deb to read them? | 02:27 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | Lars_G: you should do 'apt-get source PACKAGE' and look at that | 02:27 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | dpkg -x file.deb LOCATION will extract a .deb though | 02:27 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | hmmm neither is perfect but ok | 02:28 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | btw I see stuff like: status half-configured python-cairo 1.2.0-1ubuntu2 | 02:28 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | AndyP: status half-installed python-cairo 1.2.0-1ubuntu2 | 02:29 |
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| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | In dpkg.log | 02:29 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | ah well I give up | 02:29 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | for today | 02:29 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | hmm | 02:29 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | thanks jrib | 02:29 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | try 'dpkg --configure python-cairo' maybe | 02:30 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | nope said it had already been configured I tried already | 02:30 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | also tried dpkg-reconfigure | 02:30 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I'm kind of curious as to what's going on | 02:30 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | Me too but now I NEED to wind down, I'll find this out tomorrow | 02:30 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | alright, relax then :) | 02:30 |
| Lars_G:#ubuntu-classroom | thanks | 02:31 |
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| bicchi | Are there any videos of ubuntu running on the samsung q1? | 03:22 |
| bicchi | It would be nice to show people a demo that ubuntu boots and works. | 03:23 |
| bicchi | Would i get the same screen/gui as my Ubuntu desktop running gnome? What about the apps? | 03:27 |
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| matt_c | bicchi: I believe that if you were to run ubuntu-mobile it would look something like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/UserInterface | 05:19 |
| matt_c | the UI is based on Hildon and Matchbox, the same components of Nokia's internet tablets. | 05:19 |
| matt_c | (I'm just a newb who's been hanging around, so these are not authoritative answers) | 05:20 |
| matt_c | IIRC the main desktop UI is currently flash-based. | 05:20 |
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| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | jrib: even with the live cd im getting that firmware error...but it bypassed it somehow? | 03:02 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | twofclubs: there's something else going on with the other install since it couldn't fine apt-get | 03:04 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | find even | 03:04 |
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| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | hmm...any idea what could be causing this problem? maybe a clean install of ubuntu could fix it? | 03:04 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | k im on the live cd now | 03:04 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | we can try to troubleshoot a bit after you backup your files | 03:05 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | alright | 03:05 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | that sounds good to me | 03:05 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | should i have my external hard drive connected? | 03:06 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah | 03:06 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | and on? | 03:06 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | that should get auto-mounted when you plug it in like usual | 03:06 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | k | 03:06 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | just leme know what to do next , when you are ready | 03:07 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | it detected it | 03:07 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, now open up a terminal and do 'sudo fdisk -l' | 03:07 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | hang on leme just sign into ubuntu-classroom with the other comp so i can let you knwo what it says | 03:08 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | i'll be back in a few seconds | 03:08 |
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| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | hey jrib im back | 03:11 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k | 03:12 |
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| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | http://pastebin.com/m4a52f674 | 03:13 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | there's my fdisk | 03:13 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | what should i do next? | 03:14 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/ubuntu | 03:14 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | mk | 03:15 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | did that succeed without error? | 03:15 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | i copied and pasted that into the terminal and i now have a ubuntu disc | 03:15 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | on my desktop | 03:15 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | ok, you should be able to browse that now by just double clicking | 03:16 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | grr...i can't copy it to my disc...says i don't have permission to write to this folder or something | 03:17 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | do 'gksudo nautilus' in a terminal | 03:18 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | k | 03:18 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | root folder popped up | 03:18 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | you should be able to use that window to go to /media/ubuntu/home and copy twoofclubs directory to your usb drive | 03:20 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | no i can't seem to find it | 03:21 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | pastebin 'ls /media/ubuntu' | 03:21 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | http://pastebin.com/m6b2bd6b9 | 03:22 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | how about 'ls /media/ubuntu/home'? | 03:23 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | twofclubs is what it says | 03:24 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | we can just do this in the terminal I suppose | 03:24 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /media/ubuntu/home | 03:24 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | twofclubs | 03:24 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | where is your usb drive mounted? | 03:24 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | should be somehwere in /media | 03:24 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | i dunno...i see the disk on the desktop | 03:24 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | ls /media | 03:24 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | disk ubuntu | 03:25 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | ^that's what i get | 03:25 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | but when i double click on desktop in nautilus..there is nothing there? | 03:25 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, do you know if you have enough space on /media/disk to copy everything? | 03:25 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | 460GB | 03:25 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | but is there anyway just to pull out the twofclubs directory? | 03:26 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah | 03:26 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | is there already a twofclubs directory in /media/disk? | 03:26 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | no i have a lost and found folder and a folder called documents | 03:26 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | that's all | 03:27 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, just do this then: sudo cp -av /media/ubuntu/home/twofclubs /media/disk | 03:27 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | ahh i see it's making a whole new folder...that's good | 03:28 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | so why would it allow me to do it this way, and not the click and drag way? | 03:28 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | sudo does it as root | 03:28 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | oh right | 03:28 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | now if i install a new working copy of ubuntu...will i have to enable permission to access this disk or something? | 03:29 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | possibly | 03:29 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | it's copying by the way...that's great news | 03:30 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | all the stuff will be root owned so you would have to chown it back | 03:30 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | hmm, i wish i knew what that meant | 03:30 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | we can create a tar.gz of your home too and then you would just extract it to /home and that would be it | 03:31 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I did it this way first so that you could get at your documents without them being in an archive | 03:31 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | that is wonderful | 03:31 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | i must have a lot of info on there | 03:32 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | what would be the command to extract the tar.gz from the disk to the home folder? | 03:33 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | once we create it of course | 03:33 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | and i have a working copy of ubuntu | 03:33 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | cd /home && sudo tar xf /path/to/the/tar.gz | 03:33 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | so home/twofclubs/Desktop/disk/? | 03:34 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | for the path to the tar.gz? | 03:35 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | yea | 03:35 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | your usb drive usually gets mounted in /media | 03:35 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | so /media/disk/name_of_tar.gz | 03:35 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | i am so thankful for all your help so far, you have saved me hours worth of anguish | 03:37 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | it's still copying btw...just as an update | 03:39 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | is it past the middle of the alphabet yet? | 03:39 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | it's at M...but it should be over in a few minutes | 03:40 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | if you have to get going i understand :) | 03:40 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | when you're done, to create the tar.gz archive: cd /media/ubuntu/home; sudo tar cvzf /media/disk/twofclubs_home_backup.tar.gz twofclubs/ | 03:41 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | mk | 03:41 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | after that you should feel a little more comfortable trying things to fix your current install :) Just reboot and explain the issue to #ubuntu again | 03:41 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | k | 03:42 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | can i just copy and paste that into the terminal | 03:43 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | yeah | 03:44 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | wonderful | 03:44 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | can i send you a thank you card or something? | 03:44 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | hah | 03:44 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | heh | 03:45 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I'll be away for a few now | 03:47 |
| twofclubs:#ubuntu-classroom | alright thanks again | 03:48 |
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| dantalizing | does the current mobile version support touchscreen? | 04:46 |
| amitk_ | dantalizing: yes it does | 04:46 |
| dantalizing | and are the umpc chipsets supported as well as intels laptop chipsets? or are they the same? | 04:48 |
| dantalizing | by "supported" i mean bluetooth, wireless, etc working | 04:48 |
| Mithrandir | it works for the samsung q1 ultra, at least. | 04:51 |
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| CharliefJohnson | Mithrandir : Any sign of the 2 Menlow systems? | 04:59 |
| Mithrandir | CharliefJohnson: not yet. :-( | 04:59 |
| Mithrandir | they're supposedly somewhere past amsterdam | 04:59 |
| CharliefJohnson | Mithrandir:OK thanks. | 05:00 |
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| Mithrandir | though, it now says "proof of delivery", so unsure what's up with that. | 05:08 |
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| Mithrandir | CharliefJohnson: I'm slightly worried about this; is there anything I can/should do, or just stay calm for now? | 05:17 |
| CharliefJohnson | Mithrandir: I think all that means is you have to sign for it. | 05:21 |
| Mithrandir | it's under status, though. Three hours ago. | 05:21 |
| Mithrandir | so either I'm looking at a different shipment somehow, or something's wrong. | 05:21 |
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| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | jrib; I am here | 05:23 |
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| amitk_ | Mithrandir: It was showing 14 Aug ETA for me and now says 13 Aug Proof of Delivery :-/ | 05:23 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | univremonster: dpkg --configure vmware-player output on pastebin | 05:23 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | univremonster: sudo dpkg --configure vmware-player output on pastebin | 05:24 |
| amitk_ | what is your tracking # ? | 05:24 |
| amitk_ | I wonder if we are seeing the same package, since it says 2 pieces there | 05:24 |
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| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | jrib; it's posted at the same website. I assume this means the uninstall didn't work completely? | 05:25 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I'm not sure | 05:25 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | what's the url? | 05:25 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33704/ | 05:25 |
| Mithrandir | Tracking # - 5574088 | 05:26 |
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| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | how did you uninstall before? | 05:26 |
| amitk_ | Mithrandir: we are seeing the same package :) | 05:26 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 05:26 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | synaptec | 05:26 |
| Mithrandir | that's.. useful. :-P | 05:26 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | and you never installed not using synaptic? | 05:26 |
| Mithrandir | and your memo ends with 3677? | 05:26 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | I did, actually. While trying to follow the directions on Ubuntu Forums. | 05:27 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209 | 05:27 |
| amitk_ | Mithrandir: no.. 3648 and it has my address on it | 05:27 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | you have to be wary of the forums sometimes to be honest | 05:27 |
| Mithrandir | yes, mine has my address too. | 05:27 |
| Mithrandir | oh well, weird. | 05:27 |
| Mithrandir | I hope it'll show up tomorrow. | 05:27 |
| amitk_ | I am guessing Intel sent it to a local office here and they will redispatch it perhaps? | 05:28 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | what does 'ls /usr/local' return? | 05:28 |
| Mithrandir | possibly. | 05:28 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | ls /usr/local | 05:28 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | oh oops | 05:28 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | wrong place :-) | 05:28 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | bin firefox32 games include java32 lib man sbin share src | 05:28 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | ls /usr/local/bin | 05:29 |
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| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | firefox32 googleearth | 05:29 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, guess it doesn't install there then | 05:30 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | I think I had it install to src | 05:30 |
| amitk_ | Mithrandir: Does DST:NLI ring a bell? | 05:30 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | yes, I did. remonster@remonster-desktop:~/src$ ls | 05:30 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | jre1.5.0_11 jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb vmware-server-distrib | 05:30 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | I see | 05:30 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | it probably won't do anything there | 05:30 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | do you have /usr/bin/vmware/vmware-uninstall.pl ? | 05:30 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | yes | 05:31 |
| Mithrandir | not really | 05:32 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, run that with sudo | 05:32 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | remonster@remonster-desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo ./vmware-uninstall.pl | 05:33 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | Uninstalling the tar installation of VMware Server. | 05:33 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | Stopping internet superserver: xinetd. | 05:33 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | Starting internet superserver: xinetd. | 05:33 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | The removal of VMware Server 1.0.3 build-44356 for Linux completed | 05:33 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | successfully. Thank you for having tried this software. | 05:33 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, now 'sudo aptitude purge vmware-player' | 05:33 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33705/ | 05:34 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | now we'll delete /etc/vmware with: sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware be careful not to make a typo | 05:35 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | k, done | 05:36 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | ok, now lets try the install again: sudo aptitude install vmware-player | 05:36 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | alright this may be a little dumb... How to I say "OK" to the EULA in terminal? | 05:37 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | "enter" and "space" are not working | 05:37 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | press tab | 05:37 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | then space or enter | 05:37 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | right, thanks | 05:37 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | so far so good; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33708/ | 05:38 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | k, now try 'vmplayer' | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | remonster@remonster-desktop:/etc$ vmware | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | ldd: /usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmware: No such file or directory | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/wrapper-gtk24.sh: 299: /usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmware: not found | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | ldd: /usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmware: No such file or directory | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/wrapper-gtk24.sh: 353: /usr/lib/vmware-player/bin/vmware: not found | 05:39 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | not 'vmware' | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | oh, sorry | 05:39 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | it runs, with this error message: (vmplayer:11063): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. | 05:40 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | Using the fallback 'C' locale. | 05:40 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | gui opens? | 05:40 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | yes | 05:40 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | also, /usr/lib/vmware-player/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2) | 05:41 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | these might be normal, I don't know | 05:41 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | so then I just pop in an XP disc? | 05:41 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | to create your vmx for your OS, just visit easyvmx.com | 05:41 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | make it boot from cd, then run the vmx in vmware with your cd in the drive | 05:42 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | this is why I love Ubuntu... thank you a million times | 05:42 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | virtualbox is nicer imo | 05:42 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | alright I think I can make it work from here... over and out | 05:43 |
| jrib:#ubuntu-classroom | have fun | 05:43 |
| univremonster:#ubuntu-classroom | will do | 05:43 |
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| ion_:#upstart | Did anyone else receive a spam email sent from a webmail interface at cs.stanford.edu to their upstart-devel address? :-) | 06:15 |
| === AlexExtreme checks | ||
| ion_:#upstart | Pls help me get a new pc it only cost a click :(( pls pls pls This is the linck: http://blahblah God bless you! | 06:15 |
| AlexExtreme:#upstart | nope | 06:15 |
| ion_:#upstart | I reported it to abuse@cs.stanford.edu, of course. | 06:16 |
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| bicchi | Will I be able to install and run the regular ubuntu desktop on the Samsung q1 ultra with the release of gutsy? | 06:26 |
| bicchi | I am talking about the running the regular 386 cd and be able to install it on the samsung q1? | 06:27 |
| bicchi | with the same amount of apps I have on my regular desktop? | 06:27 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: Yes, I already did it. | 06:27 |
| bicchi | really? | 06:27 |
| bicchi | is this the new samsung with the keyboard on the top? | 06:27 |
| agoliveira | Exactly. | 06:27 |
| bicchi | do you have pictures? | 06:28 |
| bicchi | i would like to see this in action | 06:28 |
| rob_ | amitk_, when is the latest you'll take patches prior to the functional freeze deadline? | 06:28 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: if you have a digital camera can you take a picture and email it to me. | 06:28 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: Sorry, no. this Q1 is used for developping the UME so it's constantly overwritten | 06:29 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: but you can run gnome just like my regular desktop. no hildon stuff or anything like that. | 06:29 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: Yes, that's what I'm talking. | 06:30 |
| rob_ | amitk_, we're still debugging an issue w/ SD memory cards on the 2.6.22 kernel, it works fine on the 2.6.21 kernel (it's the same for Pierre's MMC code or our MSS patch) | 06:30 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: I heard about putting ubuntu on the old samsung q1 based on the centrino cpu. but i didn't know if gnome can run on the intel A110 | 06:32 |
| bicchi | i mean celeron not centrino | 06:32 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: If it comes with Vista, would be rather strange if it does not :) | 06:33 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: you are right but I didn't know if linux was able to run on that cpu. | 06:33 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: How easy was installing ubuntu. Did the regular gui installation work? | 06:34 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: No big deal as it's a x86 CPU. | 06:34 |
| bicchi | or the alternative cd? | 06:34 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: The desktop CD runs fine. | 06:34 |
| bicchi | awesome. i cann't wait for gutsy | 06:35 |
| bicchi | thanks for your time. | 06:35 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: No problem | 06:38 |
| bspencer | agoliveira: morning | 06:39 |
| bspencer | agoliveira: any chance we can get hildon claws checked in and working today :) ? | 06:39 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: Hi Bob | 06:39 |
| bspencer | agoliveira: if I buy lunch | 06:39 |
| bspencer | ;) | 06:39 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: I was working on the PIM and Frank on Claws but I can work on Claws. I just don't think it will be ready today because I need to polish my libosso first but if all goes well, by tomorrow is very possible. | 06:40 |
| bspencer | I had a good chat with frank and he thinks it is ready | 06:41 |
| bspencer | we'd love to get it in so we can start testing it, but we didn't want to put it on moblin.org since you already have it ready for Ubuntu-mobile | 06:42 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: Ok, there's some confusion here. | 06:42 |
| bspencer | (and since moblin.org is not the upstream for this project) | 06:42 |
| bspencer | yeah, I thought there might be. So I came to chat :) | 06:42 |
| bspencer | set me straight | 06:42 |
| amitk_ | rob_: alright. I'll keep the patch gate open ;) | 06:42 |
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| agoliveira | - We do have the standard Claws in Gutsy repository. | 06:43 |
| agoliveira | - In my opinion, to have it on UME it needs to be hildonized | 06:43 |
| agoliveira | - There's a port already but I need to make a few fixes for it be able to use our hildon libs | 06:43 |
| bspencer | agoliveira: I thought frank sent patches for all of that | 06:44 |
| agoliveira | No | 06:44 |
| bspencer | he said he had hildonized it | 06:44 |
| agoliveira | What he sent me is for pure GTK. | 06:44 |
| agoliveira | Maybe I missed something but I don't see how it would be hildonized. | 06:44 |
| bspencer | hm... ok. let me check back through some mail | 06:44 |
| amitk_ | rob_: you have some time 4th Oct https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | 06:45 |
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| bspencer | agoliveira: a quick note about GTK and Hildon (to answer you email question). Hildon classes are all "derived" from Gtk classes. You can't throw out GTK just because you have Hildon | 06:45 |
| bspencer | and Hildon also tries to reduce its libraries as GTK replaces functionality that it has (like tap-n-hold) | 06:45 |
| bspencer | s/Hildon classes are all / many Hildon classes are | 06:46 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: Yes I know that but if we put standard GTK interface there it will just not integrate well. | 06:46 |
| agoliveira | And there's libosso also. | 06:46 |
| agoliveira | If we are to use pure GTK there's no reason to hildonize the applications. | 06:47 |
| bspencer | hm... "use pure GTK" means include the standard 2.11+ GTK libraries. | 06:48 |
| agoliveira | Yes. | 06:48 |
| bspencer | apps --> Hildon --> GTK | 06:48 |
| bspencer | so we Hildonize applications to get the additional benefit of Hildon libraries (look and feel, drop-down menu, window panning support) | 06:49 |
| agoliveira | Exactly | 06:49 |
| bspencer | but we also include the stock GTK libraries as Hildon classes are derived from them. | 06:49 |
| bspencer | what are you proposing instead ? | 06:49 |
| agoliveira | I'm not proposing anything differnt, just that we compile the appliations to make use of the hildon stack not gtk directly. | 06:50 |
| agoliveira | Both will work but the hildonized versions will integrate better | 06:50 |
| agoliveira | as you said, look and feel, drop-down menu, window panning support, etc | 06:50 |
| bspencer | applications may still use some Gtk classes directly too | 06:51 |
| bspencer | but UI-related widgets where there are Hildon replacements should be used when possible | 06:51 |
| agoliveira | Exactly :) | 06:51 |
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| bspencer | ok. so let me check about frank's claws work again | 06:52 |
| bspencer | I thought he said he was ready to go, had Hildonized, etc. | 06:52 |
| agoliveira | We were not disagreeing :) I was wondering why Frank was insisting on not using hildon for the interface. Maybe I got it wrong. | 06:53 |
| bspencer | back in a few... | 06:53 |
| agoliveira | Ok, let me know. | 06:53 |
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| bicchi | agoliveira: which features do not work with ubuntu desktop on the samsung q1? | 07:34 |
| bicchi | wireless, touch screen, etc ? | 07:34 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: IIRC, sound but I didn't try to make it to work. | 07:34 |
| agoliveira | The rest was fine. Touchscreen needs some adjustments tough. | 07:35 |
| bicchi | so wireless was ok. | 07:35 |
| bicchi | oh ok | 07:35 |
| bicchi | screen resolution ? | 07:35 |
| agoliveira | As I said, fine | 07:35 |
| bicchi | cool thanks. | 07:36 |
| agoliveira | np | 07:36 |
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| mjg59 | agoliveira: Hi! You said that I might want to wait until today to discuss stuff? | 07:43 |
| agoliveira | mjg59: Hi, yes we can talk. | 07:44 |
| mjg59 | Though I need to head out in 5 minutes | 07:44 |
| mjg59 | (Sorry, today has been awkward - power cut at home, I'm having to work from a friend's office) | 07:44 |
| agoliveira | mjg59: No rush. We can talk tomorrow, no problem. | 07:44 |
| mjg59 | agoliveira: No problem | 07:44 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: Bob, Claws compiled with hildon interface right away. I'll have to redo my chroot to test it but so far so good :) | 07:46 |
| Mithrandir | sound works fine too | 07:47 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: I believe so. I just don't remember to have tested. | 07:47 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: BTW, as you're still there, can you pull the libosso I just pushed? | 07:48 |
| agoliveira | I mean upload , of course :) | 07:48 |
| Mithrandir | preferably not, it's 19:48 here and I'm cleaning the apartment. :-P | 07:48 |
| agoliveira | Mithrandir: Fine. Just make a note to do it ok? It's needed to compile the applications. | 07:50 |
| Mithrandir | sure | 07:50 |
| Mithrandir | send me an email | 07:50 |
| agoliveira | Deal! Good cleaning :) | 07:50 |
| mfrey | rusty_: are you around? | 08:04 |
| rusty_ | yes | 08:05 |
| mfrey | rusty_: I have made some changes to the mobile flash home plugin / flash movie and / related html to allow for a "flash api" provider | 08:05 |
| mfrey | I wanted to give | 08:05 |
| mfrey | you the changes if you are interested | 08:05 |
| rusty_ | cool, you can send me the patch and it's nice to cc the development list | 08:06 |
| rusty_ | mfrey, if you have a git repository then you can also provide the URL, but patch in email works also | 08:06 |
| bicchi | has anyone considered running fluxbox instead of gnome on UME? | 08:07 |
| mfrey | rusty_: Sure-- the work I did allows the flash movie to directly launch applications , as well as recieve async events from the home plugin | 08:07 |
| mfrey | using javascript | 08:07 |
| bspencer | agoliveira: claws: great | 08:08 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: UME uses matchbox and not gnome. | 08:08 |
| rob_ | HappyCamp and rusty_ : take a look at this bug with image-creator http://moblin.pastebin.com/m34a47ac1 | 08:09 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: but you told me that one can run gnome on it. So I assume that one can also run fluxbox. | 08:09 |
| agoliveira | bicchi: I told you you can run Gnome on Q1. | 08:10 |
| bicchi | agoliveira: yes and that is what i am talking about | 08:11 |
| agoliveira | "(15:07:17) bicchi: has anyone considered running fluxbox instead of gnome on UME?" | 08:11 |
| bicchi | instead of running gnome on the Q1 run fluxbox | 08:11 |
| bicchi | changing the desktop environment. | 08:11 |
| agoliveira | Ah :) I don't see why not. | 08:11 |
| bicchi | sorry language barrier. | 08:11 |
| agoliveira | If you install the normal Ubuntu, you can run any WM you want. | 08:12 |
| bicchi | i am thinking of a desktop environment that has a smaller memory footprint and is less cpu intensive. | 08:12 |
| agoliveira | Try Xubuntu | 08:12 |
| bicchi | ok thanks. | 08:12 |
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| mfrey | rusty_: I sent the email -- but it was a bit big. I had to attach the modified Flash movie. Hope you get it. | 08:26 |
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| agoliveira | bspencer: Bob, claws seems to be working fine but on Q1 needs some tweaking I guess as the dimensions as a bit weird but basically it works :) | 08:41 |
| agoliveira | ... and with hildon ;) | 08:41 |
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| rusty_ | mfrey, ok... just got back to my desk. I'll take a look | 09:22 |
| bspencer | agoliveira: can I check it out already ? | 09:22 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: You mean claws? Not so simple. I need to properly package, update and someone have to upload. I can send you the .deb to test if you want. | 09:23 |
| agoliveira | But there's a bit of deppendencies you will have to deal. | 09:23 |
| mfrey | rusty_: ok -- I just re-sent the email without the .fla attached | 09:25 |
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| bspencer | agoliveira: do you put your work in a launchpad repository that we can see, or do we have to wait until it is in gutsy to access? | 09:30 |
| agoliveira | bspencer: The sources go to launchpad if there is a project there so you can checkout the updated libosso and sapwood but things that are not there you need to wait for gutsy. | 09:32 |
| agoliveira | Or I can send you if you want. | 09:32 |
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| lool | agoliveira: Hi; don't know whether this is intentional or not but when you're modifying file, your editor seems to recode files as UTF-8 systematically | 09:42 |
| lool | eg: | 09:43 |
| lool | - * Contact: Kimmo Hlen <kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com> | 09:43 |
| lool | + * Contact: Kimmo Hmlinen <kimmo.hamalainen@nokia.com> | 09:43 |
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| agoliveira | lool: I don't know why is that but my system is UTF-8 so... | 09:45 |
| agoliveira | But it's weird anyway | 09:45 |
| lool | agoliveira: I just wanted to inform you; what's your editor BTW? | 09:46 |
| agoliveira | lool: I'll pay more attention to see if I notice. | 09:46 |
| agoliveira | lool: Depends but mostly mcedit | 09:46 |
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| vlt:#upstart | Hello. I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel "unknown". I always have to login and run `telinit 2` to start all the daemons and the dm. What is missing here? | 10:59 |
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