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zulFujitsu: i dont think we should sync the rt2400 drivers from debian since its alread in the kernel12:38
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Nafallozul: there is a graphical interface in that source as well I think?12:45
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Nafallozul: but the binary rt2400-source or whatsitsname should not be in Ubuntu, agreed.12:45
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norsettoIs there a problem with the rt2500 package?01:11
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mohammadregarding http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/ttf-scheherazade I had uploaded, Nicolas Spalinger (a member of Debian pkg-fonts team) asked me to rename the package to ttf-sil-scheherazade.01:35
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mohammadIs it possible to change the name?01:35
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RAOFgeser: It's not built against just 2.5 - it's built against anything <= 2.502:19
RAOFSee debian/pyversions (2.5- vs 2.4-)02:19
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RAOFgeser: Obviously my changelog entry is misleading, then :(02:20
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mohammadis any motu online?03:07
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tonyyarussoCould someone clarify the difference between Upstream Version Freeze and Universe New Package Freeze?  I think the latter is what I'm concerned with, but as it's the later one I want to make sure not to miss the former by mistake.03:10
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Toadstooltonyyarusso: UVF means no new upstream versions for already existing packages and Universe New Package Freeze means no NEW packages, ie packages which don't have any previous version in the archive and need to go through the NEW queue03:13
tonyyarussoToadstool: okay, good.  So August 30th is my deadline.03:13
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bddebianHeya gang03:26
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mohammadthere is an issue in naming of one of the packages I had uploaded before http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/x11/ttf-scheherazade. it should be change to ttf-sil-scheherazade. please let me know how I can fix it?03:39
bddebianI think you would have to build a new package and add a Replaces: for the existing03:41
bddebiancripes who's filing all the sync and merge requests??03:44
mohammadbddebian: in the changelog should I mention anything more than initial release? (like the previous name or previous changelog entry)03:44
ajmitchbddebian: what's wrong with the syncs?03:45
bddebianI would use the original package's changelog and add another changelog entry stating the rename and the replaces.  But I'm no expert on the subject03:46
bddebianajmitch: Nothing, just making hard to keep the list down ;-)03:46
mohammadbddebian: thanks :)03:47
ajmitchbddebian: are these sponsor requests?03:48
bddebianajmitch: Aye03:49
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ajmitcha lot of fairly minor stuff there03:50
bddebianYeah but I wonder if the person is at least test building them03:52
ajmitchhe hasn't in the past03:53
bddebianDo we just ack them or test build them before ack'ing?03:53
ajmitchyou never 'just ack' stuff03:53
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jdongoops :)03:53
jdongslightly sidetracked03:53
bddebianSo what's the point of someone filing these? :-)03:54
ScottKbddebian: Who is filing them?03:54
ajmitchScottK: your friend03:54
ScottKAh.03:54
ScottKbddebian: I'd either ignore them or check them very closely.03:55
ScottKIf you think he's being abusive of the process, feel free to complain to jono.03:55
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ajmitchbddebian: if you want other work to do, there's still a bunch of debian bugs on http://django.ajmitch.net.nz/rcbugs/ to see if they can be synced03:56
ajmitchwe managed to get a number of sync requests filed from there, but the debian rc bugs don't always apply03:57
jdongQ: what's slower than bzr's initial branch...03:58
jdongA: Launchpad!03:58
jdongoops03:58
jdongI mean... nothing. bzr is blazing fast03:58
bddebianajmitch: Holy crap d00d03:59
bddebianjdong: hehe03:59
ajmitchbddebian: what?04:00
bddebianBig list :-)04:00
ajmitchyeah, it was bigger a week ago04:00
ajmitcha comments field was added the other day to make coordinating it a bit easier04:00
bddebianYeah, I see the yaird serious bug is waiting on another04:00
ajmitchmost of the comments were of the type  'sync requested'04:01
jdongwhoo! it's branched04:02
jdongRAOF: hey dude, you around? got an xgl thing to discuss (wrt. keymapping shift+bksp zapper)04:03
RAOFjdong: Yup.  Fire away.04:03
jdongRAOF: as you are probably aware, Xgl maps SHIFT+Bksp to zap the Xgl server...04:03
RAOFIt did.  Does it still?04:04
jdongRAOF: this is pretty irritating because it's extremely easy to accidentally trip04:04
RAOFIndeed.04:04
jdongRAOF: err... well I think it still does04:04
RAOFOk, I'll just check.04:04
RAOFBut I thought it didn't, because the ubuntu packages stopped doing that :)04:04
jdongRAOF: at any rate, the command xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace" within the Xgl server will disable that mapping...04:04
jdongRAOF: might be a good idea to apply at bottom of debian/Xgl-session anyway04:05
RAOFjdong: Totally, if it kills Xgl now.04:05
RAOFjdong: Running my Xgl package now.  Shift-backspace doesn't kill Xgl for me.04:07
jdongRAOF: very interesting, let me try it too...04:07
RAOFNeither does Ctrl-backpace, nor alt-backspace... ;)04:07
jdongRAOF: here's the deal... something happens after GNOME/compiz starts up that inhibits shift+bksp...04:09
jdongRAOF: but if I just boot up to a plain Xgl minimalist environment, shift+bksp still zaps the server04:09
RAOFMaybe setting my keymap.  Ok.04:09
jdongright04:10
jdongsetting your keymap will reset the bksp key04:10
RAOFSo, will the xmodmap have any annoying side-effects?04:10
jdongRAOF: nope, this only remaps the backspace key to exclude terminate_server04:10
jdongRAOF: it doesn't have any other side effects04:10
RAOFExcellent.  I'll fix that then.04:10
jdongspectacular, thanks!04:11
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bddebianAnyone else having an issue uploading?06:31
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jose244hey guys im interested in helping in developement08:31
RAOFYay!08:32
RAOFWhat would you like to do?08:32
jose244im really confused on the categories i can choose can u tell me the diffrences?08:32
jose244theres core developers and MOTU right?08:33
RAOFYes.08:33
jose244wat are the differences?08:33
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RAOFAnd "MOTU hopefuls", and Bug Team, and... :)08:34
RAOFCore devs can upload anything, MOTU can upload to universe.=08:34
RAOFHopefuls can't upload at all, and do so through a sponsor.08:34
jose244ill be MOTU dev. to start out08:35
RAOFAs far as the packaging side of contributing goes, you pass from Hopeful -> MOTU -> Core Dev.08:35
jose244so i gota start from hopeful i suppose?08:35
RAOFAlthough you don't have to take any of those steps; you can remain a hopeful, or a MOTU.08:35
jose244ok now i understand08:36
RAOFYup.  You don't get upload privileges until we're sure you know what to do with them :)08:36
jose244alright so im ready lol08:36
jose244wat version do i need to use?08:36
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pygi:D08:37
RAOFjose244: Generally, the latest dev release.  Almost all development goes on there.08:37
RAOFSo, at the moment, Gutsy.08:37
RAOFThe easiest way to start helping is to find a bug that you care about, and see what can be done to fix it.08:38
jose244ok08:38
RAOFIf you don't have a pet-peeve, there are a bunch of bugs on launchpad marked as "bitsize".  Those would also be good.08:39
jose244ill look into that08:40
jose244so theres a special dev release or just use normal one?08:40
RAOFIt's just the normal Gutsy release.08:41
jose244alright thx08:41
RAOFYou probably want to look at wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU if you haven't already.08:41
RAOFParticularly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO08:41
pygiRAOF, you should probably give him link to packaging guide :)08:42
RAOFHeh, yes.08:42
RAOF!packagingguide | jose24408:43
ubotujose244: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports08:43
jose244so many links lol08:43
RAOFThere's a lot of information, yes.08:43
RAOFIf you don't know packaging, then the packaging guide is probably a good start.08:44
RAOFMaybe read it in conjunction with a bitesize bug?08:44
jose244ok will try08:44
jose244lets say i want to package a new software i found or made i would have to go threw the process?08:45
RAOFIf the packaging guide seems too much, there are other ways to help.08:45
RAOFjose244: Yes.  The MOTU page has the process you need to follow to get a new package into Ubuntu08:45
jose244ok thx,wat are the other ways of help i can do?08:46
RAOFjose244: Well, you can help triage bugs.  We always have plenty of them! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs08:47
RAOFIf you know more than one language you can help translate Ubuntu.  You can contribute artwork or documentation.  These are all helpful, and important.08:47
jose244o o i know spanish08:48
RAOFjose244: then you might be interested in !rosetta08:48
jose244!rosetta08:48
uboturosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language.  See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about08:49
jose244ok thx ill try to do little of each to help out the community has much has i can08:49
RAOFGreat!08:51
jose244im at one of the ftp mirrors i go into the main folder next?08:53
jose244http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/ im here08:55
RAOFI'm not sure what the question is.08:57
jose244where i downlaod gutsy lol08:57
jose244i think im at the wrong place...08:57
RAOFAh.08:57
RAOFRight.  So that would be...08:57
jose244yea im asking where i can downlaod gutsy...anyways ubuntu looks like a promising os08:58
RAOFjose244: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe408:58
jose244o god lol 700mb09:00
jose244yay 3 hour download09:00
jose244ill be testing in a few hours09:00
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jose244 can i install it in vmware workstation 6.0?09:13
RAOFYes09:13
jose244alright thx09:13
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jose244woot 1hour and 18 mins left to finish gusty downlaod10:03
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\shhmmm..does anyone run tribe4 on more then one screen with desktop-effects?10:16
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=== RAOF wills miro to build
Hobbseeit wont11:31
Hobbseecontains too much crack to build.11:31
RAOFBut I've been carefully patching the crack with stickytape and bubblegum!11:31
Hobbseehaha11:33
Hobbseesticky tape wont cut it.11:33
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Hobbseejmg: VHB?11:38
Hobbseebah11:38
jmgVery High Bond tape11:39
jmgused to stick together aeroplanes. :)11:39
Hobbsee:)11:39
Hobbseewe never ended up using them for sound/technical stuff11:39
\shI really wonder if desktop-effects works with two screens...11:40
jmg\sh: not xinerama11:40
jmgtwinview should be ok11:41
\shtwinview ? you mean the two screens are displaying the same?11:41
jmgno - twinview the nvidia technology11:41
\shah..no just plain radeon oss driver...11:41
jmgthe equivalent in ati speak is hydravision11:42
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jmgso what video players work in compiz?11:46
RAOFAnything.  As long as your drivers aren't broken.11:46
jmgi cant make totem display anything.11:46
RAOFFully up to date gutsy?11:47
jmgyes11:47
RAOFA recent ati driver update should've fixed it.11:47
jmg<- nvidia11:48
jmgmplayer works11:48
RAOFOh.11:48
RAOFUm, Totem should, too.11:48
jmgs'what i thought.11:48
RAOFI've never had any problems.11:48
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jmghmm.11:49
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jmgis xv still the right option to use?11:50
\shxv as image viewer? ,-)11:51
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stgraberRainCT: ping11:52
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jmgxvideo11:54
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stgraberRainCT: --binary-arch isn't in fact the correct option to select a custom arch, you should replace it by : --debootstrapopts "--arch" --debootstrapopts "$BINARCH"11:56
stgraberRainCT: sorry, I didn't have the time to test it before (pbuilder creation worked but I didn't notice it was amd64 as well :))11:57
RAOFjmg: Yes?  Although it might not work on a second monitor.11:57
jmgi see11:58
jmgwell, id better go if i want to make tomorrows UMC meeting. :)11:59
jmgbye11:59
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RainCTstgraber: pong12:17
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RainCTstgraber: thanks :)12:22
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infinitois it possible to get a debian sync yet??01:15
ograinfinito, its possible all the time ... the amount of paperwork you have to do for requesting one just gets higher towards the end ;)01:16
Hobbseegreetings, ogra01:16
ograhey Hobbsee01:16
whiteHobbsee: hey :)01:17
whiteand all the nothers as well :)01:17
whites/nothers/others/01:17
infinitoogra: i've filled a requestsync, that's enough now?01:17
ograinfinito, shuld be until thursday ... after that you need a UVF exception01:18
whiteHobbsee: i have read that you are release manager for universe (or something like that), are you still talking to common mortals like me? :P01:18
Hobbseewhite: i'm a common mortal, trust me.01:19
Hobbseeinfinito: did you use -s?01:19
whiteHobbsee: you happen to live too far away though :/01:19
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Hobbseewhite: yeah.  i do have plans to move, eventually, though01:19
whitecome here come here01:20
white(i mean Melbourne)01:20
infinitoHobbsee: i've filled the bug manually, as requestsync changes the status to Confirmed, and i'm not a MOTU, so dont have permissio n to do that01:20
Hobbseeinfinito: you can change it to confirmed as a non-motu, and you can use -s whicih will subscribe teh sponsorship team, not the archive01:21
Hobbseewhite: i'm not release manager for universe01:21
Hobbseewhite: i'm on the UVF team, though01:21
Hobbseewhite: i wanted to do the RM for ubuntu :(01:21
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whiteHobbsee: where is the difference between UVF and RM for universe?01:22
whiteas i suspect that RM for main is canonical01:22
infinitoHobbsee: i tried to subscribe the sponsorship team by hand, but launchpad says ubuntu-archive-sponsors team doesn't exist01:22
Hobbseewhite: release manager for ubuntu is more main stuff, but also does tribe images and whatnot.  and pokes people about bugs.01:22
Hobbseeinfinito: it's ubuntu-universe-sponsors01:23
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whiteare there RMs, which are not employed?01:23
whiteHobbsee: well you are RM for universe then ;)01:23
Hobbseewhite: tehre's a release management team, but there's an employed RM, yes.01:23
Hobbseewhite: it all gets convoluted and confusing01:23
Hobbseewhite: and i'm not - univeres is a team, done by votes01:23
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Hobbseeheh, i'll explain elsewhere01:24
whiteHobbsee: well there is normally always more than one release manager :)01:24
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infinitoHobbsee: so is this enough? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyrenamer/+bug/13199101:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131991 in pyrenamer "Please sync pyrenamer 0.4.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] 01:25
Hobbseewhite: not in ubuntu, per se01:25
Hobbseewhite: at least, not until gutsy01:25
RAOFHa!  Miro builds!01:26
HobbseeRAOF: please read the backscroll, and dont give out incorrect information01:26
FujitsuRAOF: Lies, all lies.01:26
Hobbseeer, Kmos, not RAOF01:26
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=== RAOF is an acronym, does that help?
=== Kmos oh good
=== Kmos oh god
Hobbseeno01:27
Kmoslol01:27
Kmoshttp://kmos.homeip.net/~kmos/ddclient -> if someone want to upload/fix the package. it's a merge with some fix.. the debian maintainer doesn't answer me.01:28
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HobbseeKmos: you cant approve your own sync requests.  this means you cant use confirmed, and subscribing u-a yourself.  infinito, if you use -s for requestsync, it will automatically set the status to new, and subscribe the sponsorship team01:30
HobbseeKmos: but seriously, why do you want to sync the world *again*?01:30
HobbseeKmos: work on some bugs for a while01:30
HobbseeKmos: we have the autosync turned off for a reason, and it's not so that we can get kicks out of manually filing sync requests01:31
KmosHobbsee: my sync request's have fix/upstream version01:32
Kmosi'm not syncing the world01:32
Kmosjust a few packages before thursday01:32
StevenKA few != 1601:33
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KmosStevenK: check if they aren't important01:33
StevenKWhich involves wasting time.01:33
KmosHobbsee: i don't have subscribed U-A, i've used -s01:33
HobbseeKmos: great!01:33
HobbseeKmos: else i'd have to kill you.  in a COC-approved fashion, of course.01:33
Hobbsee:)01:33
Kmosi've ask for xterm, that's a good sync.. tasks for gnome, xdialog, xmoto and tmw are games01:34
HobbseeKmos: you have considered that the new upstream versions may contain more bugs, havent you?01:34
Kmosand others I've already done for other packages of gnu the r-cran-* ones01:34
KmosHobbsee: yes.. but it will fix bugs too, that's the life of software01:35
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HobbseeKmos: but still, the autosyncer is off.  the point is not to grab every piece of software with a new upstream version.01:36
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KmosHobbsee: i don't have done it randomly..01:37
StevenKThen list which bugs you fix or your rationale for filing them and you won't get questioned.01:39
StevenKs/you fix/the sync will fix/01:39
RAOFWow, miro is down to only one "fix your crap" message on startup01:42
=== RAOF wonders idly why the miro-0.9.8.1 tarball he downloaded reports itself as "miro 0.9.8-svn"
HobbseeRAOF: high proportion of crack.01:44
HobbseeRAOF: makes all sorts of insane things happen01:44
RAOFMaybe I should just leave the xine renderer as default.  Gstreamer is less tested, and I don't actually *want* to fix broken crap.01:45
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whiteanyone here knows, if it is possible to work on some pictures with a free program so that it is also possible to keep working on it afterwards in photoshop (non-free ugly stuff) ?01:51
RAOFLossless png?01:52
whiteRAOF: i don't even know photoshop. I just try to do my ex-girlfriend a favour01:52
Ngwhite: if you use a lossless format, yes. if you want to preserve layers and stuff it might be quite tricky, in that I'm not sure gimp can save .psd01:55
Ngbut you could always save the layers as PNGs and then re-composite them in photoshop01:55
whiteNg: not quite sure, if she will understand that, but i will try to forward it. Thanks01:55
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ograwhite, afaik gimp can edit and store .psp files01:55
Fujitsuogra: I think so too.01:56
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FujitsuI think it can also do .psd, but not quite sure.01:56
ograerr, thats what i meant actually, .psd01:57
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stgraberhttp://finance.google.com/finance?q=SCOX <-- SCO after the weekend :)01:58
Fujitsustgraber: I pointed that out almost 24 hours ago now... rather impressive, yes!01:58
stgraberFujitsu: oh, didn't read my backlog that far sorry :)01:59
RAOFSo, should I patch miro to get it to print out the right version?02:05
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xxxxx1mornin' people02:07
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zulhey if you want to buy scox stock now is the tie02:26
zultime even02:26
Nafallozul: you think they will rise again?02:26
zulNafallo: you never know if someone buys them out02:27
Nafallotrue02:27
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RAOFDamn this lack of REVU.02:44
HobbseeRAOF: find a server somewhere?02:44
RAOFYeah.  Well, I've got one of my own, kinda.02:45
RAOFIt's just nicer on revu :)02:45
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sacaterhey guys who makes the wireless drivers for the rt2500?02:46
TheMusoAny Australian who is willing to donate a few bucks to them can get 1GB of space, and assign a domain to it etc.02:46
TheMusoRAOF: ^^ :p02:46
Nafallosacater: the rt2x00 project :-)02:46
TheMusoAnd its only open to Aussies.02:47
RAOFTheMuso: That's pretty cool.02:47
sacaterNafallo: well my mate cant get his wireless to work02:47
RAOFI don't suppose the domain comes with that donation? :)02:47
TheMusoRAOF: Indeed.02:47
TheMusoRAOF: Unfortunately, no.02:47
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RAOFEh, got my own, anyway.02:47
Nafallosacater: gutsy?02:47
sacaterNafallo: Feisty02:47
sacaterNafallo: with updates02:47
RAOFHm.  I suppose I'll kill the RPATH, then call it a night.02:48
Nafallosacater: the support is much better in gutsy IMHO.02:48
sacaterNafallo: hmm02:49
sacaterNafallo: well he cant even get a wireless connection02:49
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Nafallosacater: I'm not surprised... receiving upstreams CVS commits and all ;-)02:50
sacaterNafallo: hmm02:50
sacaterNafallo: so may he have a better change?02:50
sacaterchance*02:50
Nafallosacater: he could always try the desktop cd from Tribe-4? :-)02:51
Nafallosacater: see if there is any luck etc...02:51
sacaterhmm02:52
sacaterhe says he cant see tribe 4, with update-manager -d02:53
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Nafallosacater: let him check if it works with a desktopcd first rather.02:54
Nafallosacater: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/tribe-4/ I think02:54
sacaterwha02:55
sacatercant he just upgrade off of feisty02:55
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Nafallosacater: does he want instability even if it does not work then? :-)02:55
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sacaterNafallo: i think he wouldnt really mind02:55
Nafallosacater: sure. update-manager -c -d should be the command then I think.02:56
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sacaterhi02:58
illustroflamma_hi02:58
sacaterNafallo: illustroflamma_02:58
sacaterhes the one with the trouble02:58
Nafallohi illustroflamma_ :-)02:58
illustroflamma_Hi :D02:59
sacaterNafallo: does update-manager -c -d need sudo behind it02:59
Nafallosacater: no, in front.02:59
sacaterNafallo: lol02:59
illustroflamma_Nafallo: nothing :S03:00
sacaterNafallo: why isnt it showing up03:02
Nafallono idea. I'm already running gutsy, so can't check either.03:02
sacaterlet me try03:02
sacatersudo update-manager -c -d03:03
Nafalloshould be correct.03:03
sacaterworked for me03:03
RAOFIs a u-u-s bug with a link to a source package acceptable?03:03
HobbseeRAOF: sure03:03
RAOFWelcome to the dawning of a new, miro, age then03:04
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HobbseeRAOF: miro, and other crackful things are banned :P03:04
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AmaranthMiro is so fscking broken03:05
RAOFA bit, yeah.03:08
RAOFThey probably shouldn't be re-implementing internal DBus functionality, for example.03:08
FujitsuRAOF: Aw, why not? That'd be boring.03:08
RAOFAnyway, for those who want first-hand experience of crack, bug #129043 is available for you crackification03:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129043 in democracyplayer "democracy-player has a new version and a new name, please upgrade package in Gutsy" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12904303:09
sacateris there any way i can remotely connect to illustroflamma's machine03:09
RAOFI'll also take this parting shot to say that there are a couple of xserver-xgl bugs someone could fix with my xgl branch :P03:11
RAOFNight all!03:11
sacater?03:11
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sacaterso there is no way for me to connect to illustroflamma's machine03:14
sacater?03:14
Hobbseesacater: ssh would be the usual answer.  and #ubuntu would be the usual asking place03:15
sacaterHobbsee: yeah i know, but illustroflamma doesnt have a domain name03:15
sacaterso ssh is not very practical03:16
\shsacater, you need just an ip for ssh...no hostname needed03:19
sacaterall i have is his router IP03:20
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sacaterbut i cnat even ping it03:20
\shsacater, so he has  to open the ssh port towards his machine...if you are not allowed, you have bad luck03:20
sacaterhe cant even log into his router03:20
sacaterit was set up by BT03:20
\shbad luck...03:20
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jonohey all04:19
ScottKHi joo04:19
ScottKjono even04:19
jonohey ScottK04:19
jonowhere can I find a list of all approved motu in launchpad?04:20
Fujitsujono: ~motu/+members04:20
Nafallojono: ~ubuntu-dev I should think :-)04:20
jonothanks04:20
FujitsuNo, ~ubuntu-dev is deprecated.04:20
NafalloFujitsu: oh. thanks :-)04:20
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/~motu04:20
FujitsuAnd not consistent with ~motu any more.04:20
Nafalloaha :-)04:21
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zulhi jono04:28
jonohey zul04:29
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StevenKRAOF: Still here?04:42
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\shjono: what about an ubuntu community team with sysadmin experience? ,-)04:49
jono\sh: this is being discussed :)04:49
\shjono: cool...as requirement should be "more then 2 years experience" and "unix [not only linux]  know how"04:50
Hobbsee\sh: what's this for?04:50
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\shHobbsee, most sysadmins who are working in serious dc environments and knowing their business have more then linux knowledge...you can filter the good ones from the semi-amateurs04:51
Hobbsee\sh: true.  i think i'm missing the context here at all.04:51
Hobbseeoh well04:52
\shHobbsee, tbh, those things should never happen like reported in UWN / jonos email04:52
Hobbseeindeed04:52
\shHobbsee, just because it gives the brand "ubuntu" the feeling of being unsecure, because nobody reads about "no clue about sysadmin-work and system security"04:53
Hobbseetrue04:53
Hobbseedoes someone feel generous, and want to go thru the sponsorship queue?04:54
KmosHobbsee: I do it if I can :)04:55
Kmoshehe04:55
HobbseeKmos: no way :P04:55
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Hobbseeon the other hand, i can try by using the email interface04:56
\shok..time to go home and finishing the "\sh" buildserver for packaging amarok...yeah04:57
\shcu later04:57
Hobbseesiretart: why did you use -s for a sponsorship request?04:57
Hobbseesiretart: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-initramfs/+bug/13155204:57
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131552 in live-initramfs "Please sync live-initramfs (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] 04:57
Hobbseesiretart: in fact, see the comments on the bug04:58
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=== Hobbsee dumps one bug that isnt worth syncing
siretartHobbsee: err05:03
=== Hobbsee dumps another one
siretartHobbsee: I didn't use requestsync.py, I filed it by hand05:03
Hobbseesiretart: :)05:03
Hobbseesiretart: no?  weird.05:03
siretartHobbsee: for the question: this is a new upstream release05:03
siretartHobbsee: I want the new upstream in gutsy. I talked to panthera, and he prepared the package so it is usable in ubuntu05:03
siretartHobbsee: why do you want to prevent the sync after all?05:03
Hobbseesiretart: i'm more wondering why you subscribed u-u-s at all, instead of u-a05:03
Hobbseesiretart: i didnt drop your bug.  i'm just wondering why you did what you did05:04
Hobbseesiretart: and no mention of why we can drop the ubuntu changes, which keybuk may well eat you for05:04
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Hobbseeand i dont think you want keybuk yelling at you05:04
Hobbsee:)05:04
siretartHobbsee: I didn't subscribe u-u-s05:04
siretartHobbsee: check the activity log, some guy called Marco Rodrigues did05:05
HobbseeKmos: ping05:05
Hobbseesiretart: that's kmos.  we've been having discussions like this already.  thanks05:05
Kmoshi :)05:06
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HobbseeKmos: can you explain why you touched https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/live-initramfs/+bug/131552 please?05:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131552 in live-initramfs "Please sync live-initramfs (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 05:06
Kmosi found it without package05:06
Kmosand New for long time05:06
Kmosafter i subscribe U-U-S i see he's reported by siretart05:07
HobbseeKmos: if it's a sync request, you can leave it alone05:07
mruizhi all. I'm waiting for a review : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alleyoop/+bug/8088505:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 80885 in alleyoop "Upgrade Alleyoop to 0.9.2" [Wishlist,In progress] 05:07
Kmosand after I check.. U-A was subscribed05:07
HobbseeKmos: they're done specially05:07
Kmosso after I can't remove U-U_S05:07
KmosU-U-S05:07
HobbseeKmos: this is part of the "i dont touch a bug unless i know i should be" - and for sync requests that you didnt file, you dont need to touch them05:07
KmosHobbsee: yeah05:07
HobbseeKmos: trust me, i, or another member of MOTU who knows more will go and yell at them.  you dont need to05:07
KmosHobbsee: that's one before we talk about that05:07
HobbseeKmos: i realise that :)05:07
HobbseeKmos: i note that another guy has also been doing that recently, so i'll have to speak to him too.05:08
Kmosi found the mistake, but can't fix it, because can't unscribe U-U-S05:08
Hobbseeyeah, i know what you mean.  that's fine05:08
Kmoswho ?05:08
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Hobbseejerome_ on irc, it seems05:08
Kmos:)05:08
HobbseeRAOF: your uploads are fine, i take it?05:09
Hobbseeoh, meh.  if you've made all the ubuntu changes to the package, then i trust that your sync request is fine.05:10
geserKmos: can you explain me why you subscribed my to bug #132408?05:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132408 in elisa "upgrade elisa to 0.3.1" [Wishlist,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13240805:11
Hobbseegeser: english parser fell over.  please reword.05:11
Kmosgeser: because you have done the latest upload05:12
Kmosmaybe you want to know about that05:12
Kmosthat there is a new version after a lot of time05:12
Kmosgeser: also fixed bug 13234105:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132341 in xdialog "Please sync xdialog (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13234105:12
HobbseeKmos: in general, subscribing other people to bugs is a bit of a privacy invasion.  it's also spam05:13
HobbseeKmos: poke them on irc about the bug05:13
HobbseeKmos: also, launchpad has a function where you can get sent bugs on packages that you're interested in05:13
KmosHobbsee: ok05:13
Hobbseezul: why are you assigned to visualboyadvance?05:13
geserKmos: I acked the last sync request for elisa, therefore I'm listed as the last uploader05:13
Kmosa months agoo, someone told me to subscribe people that maybe had interest in bug05:13
=== Hobbsee thought we decided not to sync that one
HobbseeKmos: hmm.  better to ask them on irc first05:14
zulHobbsee: umm...i dont know05:14
Hobbseezul: ah, because you've done half of it.  please finish it.  (unsub u-u-s, actually comment on the bug)  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/visualboyadvance/+bug/13219405:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132194 in visualboyadvance "Please sync visualboyadvance (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] 05:15
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Hobbseedebian bug #43602205:17
ubotuDebian bug 436022 in tua "tua: crontest failure /usr/lib/uucp/tua_run: No such file or directory" [Normal,Fixed]  http://bugs.debian.org/43602205:17
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mruizhi all. I'm waiting for a review (upgrade): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alleyoop/+bug/8088505:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 80885 in alleyoop "Upgrade Alleyoop to 0.9.2" [Wishlist,In progress] 05:25
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geserKmos: is there a good reason to sync xdialog besides the new upstream version? The interesting changes (gtk1 -> gtk2) are only in experimental.05:29
HobbseeScottK: have you started using the email interface for bug filing, yet?05:29
Hobbseegeser: the latter version is in unstable, i thought05:29
ScottKFor bug filing, no.05:29
HobbseeScottK: you should, purely for sponsorship05:30
ScottKWhen I have some time, I need to look into it.05:30
HobbseeScottK: there's info05:30
Hobbseebut mine is05:30
Hobbsee status triaged05:30
Hobbsee subscribe ubuntu-archive05:30
Hobbsee unsubscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors05:30
HobbseeRequest approved.05:30
Hobbsee(space important there)05:30
Hobbseeand just bugnumber@bugs.launchpad.net05:30
ScottKThanks.05:30
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Hobbseeapparently edit@b.l.n is supposed to work, but i didnt get success with it05:31
Hobbseeof course, it's then helpful that you're working on the sync queue on yoru own, as it's a mass ack :P05:31
geserHobbsee: Kmos wanted first to sync xdialog (2.3.1.dfsg.1-1) experimental but changed then the sync request to xdialog (2.3.1-2) unstable05:31
Kmosgeser: maybe now there isn't05:31
Kmosit closes 4 bugs in debian05:32
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Hobbseegeser: fair enough05:32
geserKmos: those 4 bugs are severity normal and one is a bug asking for the new version05:36
Hobbseeright, done the rest of the syncs there.05:36
Hobbseethis mail interface seriously rocks - to be able to do 10+ bugs at once05:36
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geserHobbsee: what's your opinion on the xdialog sync request? sync or not sync?05:39
geserHi bddebian05:39
Kmosgeser: invalid it :)05:39
bddebianHeya gang05:39
bddebianHi geser05:39
Hobbseegeser: oh, hmm.  our amarok script uses that, incidently.  that's...ah...not good05:40
Hobbseebddebian: please make sure you follow sync process05:41
bddebianI think I looked at xdialog last night and I don't think it can be synced05:41
bddebianHobbsee: What sync process?05:41
Hobbseebddebian: it's in the second link05:41
bddebianSecond link of what?05:41
geserbddebian: unsubscribe u-u-s once you're done05:41
Hobbseebddebian: the part about actually commenting on the bug (because some people set it to confirmed cos tehy can), and actually unsubscribing u-u-s afterwards05:41
Hobbseebddebian: oh, topic sorry05:41
Hobbseebddebian: this sync queue fried my brain05:42
bddebianI didn't do the UUS crap05:42
Hobbseeoh?05:42
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Kmosbddebian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skyeye/+bug/13228005:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132280 in skyeye "Please sync skyeye (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Triaged] 05:44
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bddebianHobbsee: Meaning I didn't file them so maybe I'm not understanding what you men?05:45
bddebianErr mean even05:45
Hobbseebddebian: no, not filing.  approving05:45
bddebianAh, remove UUS after approving?05:45
Hobbseebddebian: yeah, just to keep teh queue sizes down05:46
Hobbseebddebian: a while ago we went "right, hwo do we actually sanitize this thing?"05:46
bddebianWell it doesn't help that someone is being a little "ambitous" with sync requests05:47
bddebianHobbsee: I didn't know we were supposed to unsubscribe, sorry05:48
Hobbseebddebian: no problem ;)05:48
Hobbseebddebian: i saw it and actioned it on the bugs that i saw05:48
Hobbseebddebian: indeed.  he's already been blasted a few times over that.05:48
Hobbseebddebian: including tonight05:48
AndyPd'oh, just missed ScottK05:51
bddebianGoddamn typo05:51
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 129856 in Ubuntu "Please sync python-syck from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12985605:54
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AndyPthe syck sync has been done now so its deps are all present now05:55
HobbseeAndyP: it should just get done...05:56
Hobbseeor usually would05:56
Hobbseeno idea, with the writing05:56
AndyPHobbsee: ok, i'll keep my faith :)05:57
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Kmoshttp://kmos.homeip.net/~kmos/ddclient -> no revu, so here it is..05:58
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Hobbseeajmitch: do we have MDT runnign anywhere now?  (query LongPointyStick with the answer, or mention my or it's nick with your answer, so i see it)05:59
geserHobbsee: http://people.debian.org/~lucas/ubuntu-versions/06:01
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Hobbseelucas: any chance of a section: kde added?  :)06:01
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Hobbseewhy are you so happy, bddebian?06:01
bddebianWho said anything about being happy? :-)06:02
bddebianI get the feeling that I "fit in" even less than I used to :'-(06:02
Hobbseebddebian: unsure if anyone does.06:02
Hobbseebddebian: of course, helps if you're actually here and get involved :)06:02
Hobbseebddebian: you'll get back into it all, if you want to06:02
pygiHobbsee, what's up with this libmtp? You want it in?06:03
bddebianWell I'm severely unimpressed with this whole bzr shit I have to say...06:03
Hobbseepygi: if amarok and such works with it, and it supports more devices, then yeah06:03
Hobbseebddebian: yeah - i think a lot of people are, which is why most things dont use it06:03
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HobbseeScottK: if you get a chance, can you check if there's anything in kde that we want synced across, before UVF?06:05
HobbseeScottK: obviously, we can shove it thru post-UVF, but that is a slight pain06:05
ScottKRight.06:05
ScottKIf I can.06:05
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ScottKI'm finishing the new Klamav right now.06:05
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Hobbseebut i guess that's a little suss :P06:06
bddebianhehe06:06
Hobbseebddebian: well, we're both on the uvf team, so...06:06
ScottKSounds like almost as much fun as archive admins doing backports unsupervised.06:06
Hobbseebddebian: i said i wanted kde representation :P06:06
HobbseeScottK: heh. t hat may be fun too06:06
Hobbseebddebian: i suspect it may come under "abuse of power" though.06:06
bddebianNaah :)06:06
Hobbseeanyone want to do my computing homework?06:07
AndyPsure if you want to finish coding this python binding for me :)06:07
Hobbseehah06:07
geserHobbsee: luckily the kernel package is now called linux-image :)06:08
Hobbseehm?06:09
geser"anything that hobbsee and ScottK agree on, that starts with a k doesnt    dthacker06:09
geser                           need to be documented well"06:09
geserargh, broken C&P06:09
Hobbseegeser: ahhh06:09
ScottKHobbsee: Yes.  The best I can say about archive admin backports is that at least one of them cleans up what they break.06:10
Hobbseetrue06:10
pygiHobbsee, ok, I'm after it then06:11
Hobbseepygi: cool :)06:11
Hobbseepygi: obviously, having as much stuff supported as possible is useful06:11
pygiHobbsee, yup06:12
pygiHobbsee, you gonna review and upload then?06:12
Hobbseenot tonight, no06:12
pygiHobbsee,I'll just assign the core-dev-sponsors :)06:12
Hobbseeyay, i'm not on them :P06:12
pygiHobbsee, fine, I'll bug someone to put you inside first then :p06:13
Hobbseehah06:13
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pygiHobbsee, you have no idea :)06:14
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=== Hobbsee hugs jussi01. hiya!
jussi01heya, hows things?06:16
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Hobbseejussi01: i've done a large bunch on the u-u-s queue, and so now will ignore it for a few days, to do bits that i want to see before UVF06:16
jussi01Hobbsee: sounds like you are busy... I just got an interview for monday...yay!!06:17
Hobbseejussi01: yay!  what for?06:17
jussi01for a "work practice" position, part of my studies...06:18
jussi01:)06:18
Hobbseenice :)06:18
jussi01Ive been searching for a while now, its hard when you dont know much of the local lingo06:19
Hobbseeyep06:19
jussi01but hopefully i will get this, I should as its an upaid/paid f-all position... kinda like an intern...06:20
Hobbsee:)06:21
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pygiHobbsee, packages as always ready, gotta test them06:25
boucaronhi there, is there any problem on revu.tauware.de ?06:27
mruizboucaron: is still offline06:28
AndyPjussi01: me too, i think there should be an awareness campaign to educate upstream maintainers of the advantages of distributing debian directories separately ;)06:28
boucaronok thankjs mruiz06:28
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bddebianwtf is going on..06:42
bddebianStevenK: You aboot?06:42
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Hobbseebddebian: he's asleep by now06:43
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ScottKbddebian: What particular thing has gotten you excited now?06:43
siretartMez: arond by chance?06:51
bddebiannip206:51
bddebianHeya siretart06:51
siretarthi bbd06:51
siretarthi bddebian06:51
siretartor jdong by chance?06:51
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yigalis there an easy way of deleting my identiy on launchpad ?07:59
yigalor is there a way at all?07:59
ScottKyigal: You have to ask someone to do it.08:00
ScottKTry #launchpad.08:00
yigalScottK: good, thank you08:00
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bddebianSheesh zeroc-ice is taking forever to build :-(08:41
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Skiessiis there any mmorpg worth trying in universe?09:25
Skiessi*the universe?09:26
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SkiessiI knew it... ._.09:29
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milesis it possible for me to get an ubuntu mentor so i can join the development community?09:40
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DktrKranzmiles, you can have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring09:41
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tgm4883could I get someone to look over a package for me?  The package is located at http://linux.weilandhomes.com along with the output of lintian and linda09:58
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superm1although i'm not actually a MOTU yet, I helped tgm4883 on getting this package into good shape, and looked it over10:00
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ajmitchmorning10:05
highvoltagemornign ajmitch10:06
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Mezsiretart, sup?10:15
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ScottKWhich debian repository does a package need to be in before I can synch it (i,e, which one do the archive admins pull from)?10:28
norsettoScottK: hi scott10:32
ScottKHI10:32
ScottKI went ahead and uploaded it.  I imagine you noticed.10:32
norsettoScottK: yeah10:32
ScottKWith UVF upon us, I figured better to get it uploaded and adjust later.10:32
ScottKI don't think that whatever problems there are, are new to the package.10:32
norsettoScottK: got in touch with the devel anyhow, we are ironing out the lintian/linda warnings but the real problem is the maintainer scripts10:33
ScottKRight.10:34
ScottKSounds good.10:34
ScottKWhen you have material for an ubuntu2 upload, let me know.10:35
ajmitchhello ScottK10:35
norsettoScottK: sure10:35
ScottKIt looks to me like this package has needed attention for some time.10:35
geserScottK: LP can sync from every source with a Sources file10:35
ScottKhello ajmitch.10:35
norsettoScottK: it does indeed ....10:35
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ScottKGeser, yes, but the package in question is gone from incoming and not yet at ftp.debian.org, so I didn't know if there was another one.10:36
geserScottK: then it's on it's way to the mirrors. It will appear on ftp.debian.org (or any other mirror) before sync request gets usually proceeded10:37
ScottKOK.  I guess I'll go ahead then.10:38
geserScottK: I've filed several sync request from Debian unstable when the package was still in incoming.d.o10:39
ScottKOK.  Well then the race is on.  We'll see who's faster....10:40
norsettodo you guys actually scan the IRC logs regularly?10:41
geserscan?10:41
norsettoyes, like reading what happened10:42
norsettojust wondering as I've made a request yesterday that went unanswered but I see that it was done10:43
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norsettocoincidence I guess10:46
geserI read my backlog only around hilights and seldom skim through it10:46
ScottKnorsetto: What was the request?10:48
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norsettoScottK: to move mozilla-mplayer to multiverse10:48
ScottKAh.10:48
ScottKWasn't me.10:48
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ScottKgeser: Looks like you were right.  The package is on f.d.o now.10:50
norsettohmmm, let me try another one: any chance any u-u-s who is passing by would glance at bug 127380 or 125823; I would also be happy with a won't fix (wait for upstream) so that we get them out of the u-u-s queue10:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 127380 in mail-notification "[gutsy]  FTBFS mail-notification 4.1.dfsg.1-1 synced from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12738010:52
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norsettotoo bad there are not many u-u -s passing by :-)10:52
ScottKbug 12582310:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 125823 in camorama "Camorama reports wrong version" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12582310:53
ScottKBoth look like reasonable things to fix to me.10:55
gesernorsetto: re 125823: are there many occurances of 0.17 in configure.in?10:56
norsettoin configure.in no, just once10:57
geserwhy not patch configure.in and configure directly and avoid calling autogen.sh?10:57
norsettogeser: what do you mean by configure directly?10:59
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norsettoogra: if you reply to my last email I will not kiss you ;-)11:09
gesernorsetto: patching the generated configure file. with such simple changes I prefer to patch the configure script instead of regenerating it (less delta to Debian)11:10
norsettogeser: i see the point, the problem is that the configure script is pretty messy to patch11:10
norsettogeser: I also afraid we might miss it since that string might be used in some other script11:11
geserthat's true in most cases11:11
gesernorsetto: but changes in configure.in should only affect configure11:12
btmif there's code that's dual-licensed mpl/gpl, how would you signify that in 'copyright'?11:12
norsettogeser: are u 100% sure? if you are ok (because I'm not)11:12
ScottKbtm: List them both11:13
btmScottK: and if some of is dual licensed and some isn't, should I just be descriptive about that and put both licenses in there?11:15
norsettogeser: granted you a "grep 0.17 configure" list only 11 occurrences11:15
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norsettogeser: and two are comments anyhow11:15
ScottKbtm: Yes.  You need to be clear in your description what code is covered by what license(s).11:15
gesernorsetto: pretty sure: the string 0.17 appears only 74 times in the whole source tree11:16
norsettogeser: ok, let me patch configure then and see if that works11:17
geserif you ignore the autogen.sh generated files and config.log you nearly got only configure left11:18
norsettogeser: its the nearly that scares me :-)11:18
geser$ grep -c 0.17 configure gives 1111:18
geserI've patched configure.in and configure successfully in other packages without regenerating configure11:19
norsettogeser: actually its only the spec file which is left11:20
norsettogeser: hmmm, but why both configure.in and configure? I mean, I can do of course, but for what purpose11:21
geserconfigure would be enough for our purpose but patching also configure.in has the advantage that your change isn't lost when someone needs to regenerate configure in the future11:22
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norsettogeser: well, one could also suppose that upstream will update the version one day .....11:24
norsettogeser: in the frame of this century hopefully ....11:24
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geseryes, but I think more in direction of further ubuntu changes for the same version11:28
btmWhat if the code in the package does not contain copyright dates but does have names and emails, what would you put in copyright for the authors?11:30
norsettopbuilding right now ...11:32
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voidlogic I'm having problems getting a tape drive detected. It works dual booting into windows so I don't think its a hardware issue. Its using the megaraid driver. It should be the 2nd device on channel 0, but I don't see anything but my cd-roms in /proc/scsi/scsi. If I do an lspci I see the controller card is indeed detected. The card+drive worked for one boot yesterday for but some reason it only worked that once. Any ideas?11:33
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norsettogeser: looks good, it build and camorama -V gives Camorama version 0.18 (can't test it more as I don have a webcam)11:36
norsettogeser: should I upload new patch?11:37
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gesernorsetto: yes, please11:39
gesernorsetto: what's the rationale for adding gnome-common to build-depends?11:41
norsettogeser: gone, i changed all occurrences (also comments) to be consistent11:41
norsettogeser: that was needed for autogen.sh, its removed in the present patch11:41
geserok11:41
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btmIs there a list of valid "Sections" (control file)? I can't seem to find one.11:55
geserbtm: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections11:57
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bddebianLater folks11:59
gesernorsetto: uploaded. thanks for the debdiff12:02
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norsettogeser: cool! thanks to you, really appreciated12:03
norsettogeser: actually, re. Sections, I found out that there is a slight difference with Debian12:03
geserwhat difference?12:06
norsettovery minor: we don't have non-free of and they don't have translation and virtual packages12:09
gesernon-free is called multiverse in Ubuntu12:11
norsettoand contrib of course; wonder if lintian covers these for us or if we get an error (like wrong section)12:11
norsettogeser: yeah, but its not a section, right?12:11
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geserno, it's also not a section in Debian but a segment12:13
norsettowell, apparently they can use non-free and contrib in Section (at least according to the policy)12:14
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norsettobut only in the form  segment/section12:16
DarkSun88Hi12:16

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