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asacwait a sec12:35
asacok done12:36
asac5812:36
asaci think i should autoformat my changelogs ... somehow12:37
asacok i am out of this branch for now :)12:38
asac.. again!12:38
asacfeel free to do whatever is good for next upload12:38
asacwhatelse needs to be fixed?12:38
asacactually i think we should start to write a profile merger/migrator12:39
asacso we can provide granparadiso users a good way back once firefox 3 becomes mainline12:39
Ubulettethere's already one inside12:39
asaccwong1: hey.12:39
asaccwong1: did you get the basic-flash package built against midbrowser?12:40
asacUbulette: there is migration code ... yes ... but that definitly needs to be adapted12:40
asacfurther we need some UI way to "Do now" ... "Do later", "Wipe"12:41
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JazzvaEvening :)...01:03
asacevening01:05
JazzvaHave you seen the patch for the mozilla-thunderbird-quickfile?01:15
Jazzva:)01:15
Jazzvaasac ^01:15
JazzvaAnd is there anything else I could do (except that other bug, I have to see why it won't install xpi file)?01:16
asacJazzva: how would i see the patch?01:16
asacam i subscribed to that bug?01:16
JazzvaUmm, no, I don't think so. I left the link today, thought you saw it.01:17
JazzvaI think it's bug 13141001:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131410 in thunderbird-quickfile "[gutsy]  Doesn't depend on thunderbird" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13141001:17
JazzvaYep, that one01:17
asacJazzva: just subscribe me to bugs that you submit a debdiff to in future01:21
asacat best before attaching the debdiff01:21
asac:)01:21
asacnow i did it01:21
asacwill look when i see read the subscription email now01:22
asac;)01:22
JazzvaOK :)... Sorry for this...01:22
asac... because i go to sleep now01:23
asac'night01:23
JazzvaGood night :)...01:23
Ubulettegranparadiso i386, built01:36
Ubulettegoof01:36
Ubuletteia64, failed, as usual01:37
Ubulettes/goof/good/01:37
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cwong1_asac:  r u there?03:40
Ubulettehe went to bed 2h+ ago03:54
JazzvaOff to sleep... Have a nice night/day :)...04:16
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shirishUbulette: you up buddy?08:20
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cwong1asac:  hey u there?09:01
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asachi09:34
asacbug 4500810:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 45008 in firefox "MASTER firefox theme crash" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/4500810:17
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asacJazzva: hey ... you set Bug 131411 to fix committed10:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131411 in bidiui "[gutsy]  Doesn't depend on thunderbird" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13141110:41
asacJazzva: i agree with you that it makes sense to set it to that state once a debdiff is attached10:41
asacJazzva: however, its not the way sponsoring works (which i have no opinion about)10:41
asacJazzva: you just set to confirmed and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors (ubuntu-main-sponsors)10:42
asacJazzva: read in wiki.ubuntu.com how to get things sponsored for universe/main10:42
asacJazzva: i did that now for you10:43
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asacJazzva: i pushed a few revisions to ubufox ... so in case you didn't commit something new, maybe pull my changes on top of yours to defer merge conflicts between our two branches12:08
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Jazzvaasac: Ok...02:00
JazzvaI don't think I commited anything new.02:01
asacyeah02:01
asaci committed the new plugin finder service02:01
asac:)02:01
JazzvaCool :)02:01
asacwell still needs some beautifying02:01
asac;)02:01
asacbut basically works from what i can tell02:01
JazzvaBTW, I have just remembered that in bug 131411 I forgot to mention that it also installed in the wrong dir :/...02:02
ubotuLaunchpad bug 131411 in bidiui "[gutsy]  Doesn't depend on thunderbird" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13141102:02
asacthough i need to deploy the web-service now02:02
JazzvaI'll take a look now :)02:02
JazzvaLooks good, I suppose :).02:29
asacpushed rev 2902:35
asacnow it works with older sqlite python modules as well02:35
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Ubulettehi03:06
asachi03:08
JazzvaHello :)03:08
Ubulettemy trunk is now usable03:09
asaccool03:09
Ubulettestill miss a few minor things but it builds and run fine03:10
Ubuletteit has it's own profile too now03:10
Ubulettebtw, system cairo still crashes, so i disabled it03:11
Ubuletteasac, how can we check ftbfs on -trunk if we don't push it ?03:21
UbuletteI mean for non i386/amd6403:21
asacwe usually can't03:22
asacif you think you have fixed it i can try to get environment setup and do a test build03:23
asachowever, we see that granparadiso fails ... isn't that good enough?03:23
asacbtw, anyone has a webserver with mod_python we can use to bring up the beta plugin finder backend?03:23
Ubulettewhat to do mean by "we can use" ? what do you need ?03:25
asacjust apache with mod_python ... and fw rules that allow me to call port 443 on pfs.mozilla.org03:27
asacoh well sqlite for python as well03:27
Ubuletteoh, you want to be able to push your files, right ? that I can't do :( corporate policy03:32
asac15:23 < asac> btw, anyone has a webserver with mod_python we can use to bring up the beta plugin finder backend?03:38
asac;)03:38
asacso yes03:38
asacwe need a python web-service until I find a real home03:38
Ubuletteasac, I'd like to shorten my lp login to 'fta' but apparently, it's already taken, yet not used.03:39
asachmm03:39
Ubuletteok, so I can't help. I'm not into hosting at all03:39
Ubulettehttps://launchpad.net/~fta/03:39
asacmaybe ask on #launchpad about user name policy ... e.g. how long without activity before one can take-over a user name03:39
asacmaybe there exists such a policy03:40
Ubulettethat guy doesn't even have an "f" in his entire name..03:40
Ubulettenor any "t"03:41
asachmm03:47
JazzvaI'm off... Have some stuff to do :/... See you tonight.03:49
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Ubuletteasac, some patches in trunk are not very clean04:04
UbuletteApplying patch ftbfs_toolkit_xre_Makefile_in04:04
Ubulettepatching file toolkit/xre/Makefile.in04:04
UbuletteHunk #1 succeeded at 258 (offset 4 lines).04:04
Ubuletteshould I keep them like that or refresh them ?04:04
Ubuletteit's not hurting anything, it's jsut ugly04:04
asacUbulette: i have no hard opinion on that04:09
asacpersonally I won't refresh them for the sake of code/file stability unless necessary04:09
Ubulettemaybe just once per .orig.tar.gz update ?04:32
asacwell ... for trunk that means on every update04:34
asacfor stable packages its a sane policy though04:34
Ubulettehmm, trunk calls itself granparadiso04:37
Ubulette3.0a8pre04:37
asacUbulette: yes thats wrong04:37
asacit should be reverted04:37
asace.g. drop --enable-official-branding04:38
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shirishasac: you up m8?04:38
asacy04:39
Ubuletteasac, it's already using --with-branding=browser/branding/unofficial04:39
asacyes thats wrong04:39
asacdrop that line04:39
shirishok cool, dunno why but firefox-granparadiso alpha7  is pathetically slow, any ideas why its taking so much time?04:39
asacand name it in .desktop Minefield04:39
asacslower than ffox 2 ... or slower than alpha5 ?04:40
shirishslower than a504:40
UbuletteI find it fast...04:40
shirishalthough a5 is/was slower than ff204:41
asachuh?04:41
shirishscratch out is04:41
asaci think its a plugin or something for you04:41
shirishmeant alpha 5 was slower than ff204:41
asacor maybe its memory?04:41
asaci only heard that alpha 5 was ways faster than ffox04:41
asacyou are the first that claims in that direction04:41
shirishasac: I did some configurations to make it better the first way around, maybe they are the culprits, hang on, lemme paste all of the stuff maybe you can tell me if I did something wrong.04:43
asacshirish: try to run vanilla/fresh profile04:43
shirishwould do for sure, but it will be nice to see if its something in the about:config which also is making it not be fast.04:44
asacwell ...testing with fresh profile while backupping your current .mozilla dir is a good way to figure out if its about:config related04:45
asacat all04:45
Ubulettehmmn pgrep firefox-trunk-bin is not working04:46
shirishasac: ok will do, anyway these are things which I did/changed about in the about:config04:46
shirishhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33698/04:46
Ubulettepgrep is broken04:47
Ubulette'pgrep firefox-trunk-bin' returns nothing while 'pgrep firefox-trunk-b' got it right04:48
Ubulettebecause name is truncated in /proc/pid/status04:49
Ubulettemeaning FF update-notifier is broken04:49
shirishwow, doing a clear private data hanged FF304:50
shirishfor some time04:51
asacUbulette: update-notifier for what?04:56
asacthe app update preference should be locked04:56
UbuletteI've fixed the notification on install/upgrade in trunk (not pushed yet)04:58
asacshirish: that might be true ... most likely ffox doesn't clear privacy outside the UI thread04:58
asacso its a feature04:58
asacUbulette: what was broken?04:58
asacUbulette: what did you fix?04:58
Ubuletteit was still abou firefox, not gp or trunk04:59
Ubulettesince I've changed appname for both04:59
shirishok me out, dunno what its taking too much of stuff04:59
shirishI mean memory04:59
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asacUbulette: ah you mean postinst notification ... ok05:00
asacdon't forget cruft in prerm (?)05:00
asaclike firefox package does05:00
Ubuletteyes. already done. just pgrep remains broken.05:01
asachmm05:03
asacwhy would that happen?05:03
Ubulettehttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/18414005:05
asacwell ... thats too ugly05:06
asacwhy is the bin name truncated?05:06
asacin the first place ?05:06
Ubuletteit's not. just shitty pgrep05:07
Ubuletteit reads from the wrong file05:07
Ubuletteshould have parsed /proc/pid/cmdline05:07
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asacmaybe we should come up an sh function that replaces this shitty pgrep ?05:08
shirishhey guys, the new profile is speedier than the old one, so it might be a plugin issue as asac pointed out earlier05:10
asacright05:10
asacplugin/extension05:10
asactry run firefox-granparadiso -safe-mode05:10
Ubuletteadobe plugin is known to make the full thing slow05:10
asacif its speedier as well then its extension05:10
Ubulettethere's not much extensions a7 capable anyway ;)05:11
shirishUbulette: true, only 1 in my list which is a7 compatible its APNG editor, the name says it all05:11
shirishguys can somebody help me with setting up the profiles.ini, I am stuck on the last line what should be in Default for the 2nd profile.05:13
asacgreasemonkey?05:13
UbuletteI have 6 out of ~20 active in a705:14
Ubulette2 that I've patched myself as I can't live without them05:14
shirishhttp://pastebin.ca/65699805:15
shirishasac: nope, its not greasemonkey, its .png editor extension/plugin if one wants to make pictures stuff05:15
shirishUbulette: i used some nightly extension tool to update couple as I couldn't live with couple of extensions myself05:16
shirishUbulette: don't know enough about patching extensions, although do know usually what an .xpi folder contains05:16
shirishUbulette: asac: can either of you help me with figuring out .profiles.ini I just pasted a fresh one at http://pastebin.ca/65700405:18
shirishUbulette: asac: I am just confused as to whether both should be default =0 or default=1 or what? Its simple, I want profile-manager to come up, hence last profile=0 other things not so clear05:19
asacshirish: don't understand05:26
asaci think you should start profile manager with -profile-manager ?05:26
asacand don't tweak profiles.ini manually05:26
shirishasac: ok cool05:27
Ubuletteasac, what are those "#DEBHELPER#" in postint/prerm of FF2 ?05:28
asacmight be obsolete ... but is good to keep ... debhelper can insert content there05:29
shirishasac: that made it cleaner/better thanx05:30
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Ubuletteasac; I've updated my branch for trunk with #40->#5005:41
asacwhat is last on mt?05:41
asac40?05:42
Ubulette3905:42
asack05:42
asacUbulette: so you call debhelper .install/.link files "cdbs-install scripts" :)05:43
asacno problem ... i was just confused, because firefox has an improved cdbs .mk file in source :)05:44
Ubuletteoh, it was late05:44
asacso i thought you found an error in that ;)05:44
asachave you culled control.in?05:44
Ubulettegone05:45
asacah i see05:45
asacok05:45
asacfine05:45
Ubuletteoh, forgot the branding05:45
asacyeah ... you can do on top05:45
asaci wonder if you tried to merge from paradiso?05:45
asace.g with bzr merge (cherry-picking revisions)05:46
Ubuletteno; too many gp vs trunk issues05:46
Ubulettemade my practice quilt and bzr :)05:47
Ubulettethat's piece of cake05:47
asachmm ... ok05:47
Ubulettes/my/me/05:47
carl__asac: S.O.S.  After I changed the build dependency from libxul to midbrowser in the mobile-basic-flash, I had 2 problems.  1) the home screen flash couldn't find libgtekmozed.so because path is not in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.   2) the home screen plugins crashed after I manually set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to where the library resides. Any idea?  For now I have to back out the change.05:49
asacmaybe next week i will try to remerge those branches ... so the branches stay at least related (from a bzr point of view)05:49
asaccarl__: keep the change for another 10 minutes and show it to me05:50
asac:)05:50
asaccarl__: have you fixed configure.ac ?05:50
carl__asac: yed I did05:51
carl__s/yed/yes/05:51
asacplease show me the diff05:51
carl__asac: I have already back out the change last night.  I will show the the orginally change.  Just 1 sec.05:51
Ubuletteasac, there's no real benefit here. Maybe for trunk->a8, and even that, it's a lot of s/trunk/granparadiso/g05:52
carl__asac: here is the link to the diff: http://www.moblin.org/repos/?p=projects/mobile-basic-flash.git;a=commit;h=8c5a24afb2e8d4f339e63724dc4f2ae1ae9727c705:52
asaccarl__: let me install midbrowser-dev and then take a look05:53
carl__asac: ok.05:54
asaccarl__: but install libxul0 now does help?05:56
carl__asac: I haven't try that.05:58
carl__asac: All I know is it worked before until we made that change.05:58
carl__asac: I have to revert the change for now so other can build their image.05:59
asaccarl__: why did you check in at all?06:01
asaci mean ... don't you build locally?06:02
asacanyway ... try to start it with run-mozilla.sh wrapper06:02
carl__Yes it built fine. But I didn't try to build the image.06:02
asaccarl__: building != running06:02
asacor didn't it crash for you?06:02
carl__carl__: Yes it did after I tested it with the new image.06:03
carl__asac: I can't run it with run-mozilla.sh06:03
asacwhy not?06:04
carl__asac: the flash plugin is a standalone app that links in with libgetkmozembed.so06:04
asacstill you can run it with run-mozilla.sh06:04
carl__how is that going to help?06:05
asac/usr/lib/midbrowser/run-mozilla.sh /usr/bin/myapplication06:05
asactry it06:05
asacit sets up the proper enviroment06:05
carl__I will  try it and let you know the result.  I am doing a build of the image now.06:05
asaccan't you test without starting the whole image machinery?06:06
asacthats pretty unproductive i assume ;)06:06
carl__asac:  I blew away my test enviornment last night by accident06:07
asacok06:07
Ubuletteasac, I can easily replace pgrep with pidof. it's in sysvutils, do we need to update Depends ?06:08
asacUbulette: is it essential?06:09
Ubuletteseems so. it's a rdep of initscripts06:17
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asaccarl__: isn't it possible to run that thing at all?06:29
asacthere appears to be just a hildon plugin06:29
carl__asac: it is a little bit more complicate than that. I just found out from Bob that the plugin that has the gtkmozemded is in a share libraries. The hildon-desktop is the one that starts it up at boot time.06:36
carl__asac: this implies I might have to start up hildon-desktop with run-mozilla.sh and I dont think folks here would buy into it.06:37
asaccarl__: please try anyway ... if it helps we can find find which envs are needed06:40
carl__asac: will give it try06:40
carl__asac: Have you tested the gtkmozembed to see if it work?06:42
asacit almost certainly works ... its used by epiphany06:43
carl__ok06:43
asacwell its not directly used by epiphany ... but epiphany uses firefox ... which in turn is packaged and build in exactly the same way06:46
carl__asac: I just try running hildon-desktop under run-mozilla.sh and it screws up the screen.  But it didn't crashed though.06:48
asaccarl__: hmmm let me think06:49
asacmaybe linking with --rpath ?06:49
carl__asac: Why cant we use libxul-dev?06:50
asacits currently not supported06:50
carl__it was there before?  Are u saying that libxul-dev is not part of gusty?06:51
asacits definitly not part of main06:51
asacits in universe --> unsupported06:52
carl__what about firefox-dev?06:52
asaccarl__: you will run in exactly the same issues as with midbrowser because it doesn't install its libs in /usr/lib06:54
asacas i said: midbrowser == firefox in regards of what we want to do06:55
carl__ok06:55
carl__for now I will keep the old dependency until we can figure it out what the problem is.06:56
asacUbulette: trunk has plugin management now?07:07
asaccan you confirm that?07:07
Ubuletteno. I've seen a bug for that but it's not committed07:08
Ubulettehmm, changing branding to browser/branding/nightly doesn't work07:09
Ubulettethere's almost nothing in mozilla/browser/branding/nightly07:09
Ubulette... compared to mozilla/browser/branding/unofficial07:10
Ubulettemaybe the initial checkout..07:10
asacUbulette: just drop the line07:18
asacit will *just work* (TM)07:18
Ubuletteok. I'll try that.07:25
Ubuletteasac, xulrunner is not maintained using bzr, could I start 1.9 in bzr ?07:26
Ubulettesame question with debdiff vs quilt07:26
asacUbulette: sure07:28
asacdoes xulrunner have a project ?07:28
Ubuletteyou mean https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/xulrunner ?07:29
asacmaybe name the branch ubuntu.trunk07:29
asacno07:29
asacwww.launchpad.net/xulrunner07:29
asacdoes that exist?07:29
asac(the one you pointed is just a package in ubuntu)07:29
Ubuletteit does exist07:30
asacapparently yes07:30
asacso feel free to push there07:30
asacUbulette: we need nspr-trunk and nss-trunk as well :)07:30
asaci didn't do it since we just had firefox .... but now that we are getting xulrunner we should do that as well07:31
asacwell ... nss-trunk is not really nss trunk07:31
asacits nss-3.1207:31
asacfor nspr i have to lookup which exact release they use on trunk now07:31
Ubulettewhich one 1st ?07:32
asacyou should be able to see it in client.mk ... e.g. with which tag is nspr checked out of cvs07:32
asacnspr is the base07:32
asacnss needs nspr07:32
asacand xulrunner needs both07:32
asacand later firefox will need all three ;)07:32
Ubuletteok so nspr, then nss, then xul07:32
asacUbulette: yes ... there are already bzr branches for nspr and nss07:34
Ubulettehttps://code.launchpad.net/nspr07:34
asacUbulette: yes ... i need to update that07:35
asacactually we use nspr and nss from debian07:35
asacUbulette: let me update those07:35
Ubuletteokl07:36
asacUbulette: it will take a few ... i have to do it properly07:41
Ubulettehm ok.07:42
asaci create "debian" release series for those projects and set the subversion branch as source07:42
asacin that way we get auto-import07:42
Ubulettemeaning I'll have to stick to dpatch ?07:44
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asacUbulette: huh?07:45
asacno we just get an always up to date bzr branch from debian07:45
asacyou can branch from that ...07:45
asacafaik mike is switching to quilt anyway07:45
Ubulettedebian uses dpatch for nspr, if I move to quilt, we will no longer be able to merge back07:45
Ubuletteoh, ok07:45
asacyes07:45
asache will move07:46
asaci evangelized him ;)07:46
asaci don't think that we have to merge back anyway ... until debian switches to trunk nspr and nss07:46
asacUbulette: on trunk its:07:48
asacNSPR_CO_TAG          = NSPR_HEAD_2007071307:48
asacNSS_CO_TAG           = NSS_3_12_ALPHA1B07:48
Ubuletteok, tell me when you're done with nspr. I'll start from there07:48
asacif you want to prepare tarballs07:48
asacmaybe they are even on http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub07:48
asachmmm launchpad folks need to manually review the branch before the auto-import starts ....07:50
asacUbulette: you can directly branch svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-mozilla/nss/trunk07:51
asace.g. with bzr-svn installed07:51
asacbzr branch svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-mozilla/nss/trunk nss.debian :)07:51
asacit should be identical to the branch we get by auto-import ... so just pushable07:51
asacif not, i will take the work and reapply your changes07:52
Ubuletteok, cool.07:53
asacsame for nspr07:53
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Ubuletteasac, why nss.debian ? can't I just call it trunk ?07:54
Ubuletteas that will be my devel branch07:54
asachttps://launchpad.net/nspr/debian07:54
asacthats the release series the branch will be associated with07:55
asacdoesn't matter much anyway07:55
asacour branch should be called ubuntu.trunk07:55
asacor ubuntu.3.1207:55
asaci don't want these ambigious branch names any more07:55
asacI did it when i wasn't yet sure how things will work out in the long run :)07:56
asactrunk -> would imply its upstream codebase trunk07:56
asacso we definitly need either debian.trunk ... or as we are not debian maintainers ubuntu.trunk07:56
asacbut since nss isn't really cvs trunk i wondered if its better to name the major release of nss instead07:57
asacsame for nspr07:57
Ubuletteoh, you don't want trunk for those, just the last taggued ones ?07:58
asacits not so confusing if you think about nspr and nss being independent products of which firefox trunk just ships some version in source07:58
asacUbulette: i want those that firefox/xullruner ship07:58
asacotherwise we would need trunk + 3.12 (for firefox/xulrunner trunk) + 3.11 (stable firefox)07:58
asacUbulette: the tags are above07:59
asac19:48 < asac> NSPR_CO_TAG          = NSPR_HEAD_2007071307:59
asac19:48 < asac> NSS_CO_TAG           = NSS_3_12_ALPHA1B07:59
asacso nspr appears to be some random trunk snapshot07:59
asacwhile nss might be from a 3_12 branch07:59
asachard to say without looking07:59
Ubulettegod i hate cvs08:00
Ubuletteok. let's start with NSPR_HEAD_2007071308:00
asachowever ... i would suggest to follow just those tags that firefox uses08:00
asacright08:00
asacthat is ubuntu.trunk|head i guess08:00
asacbecause its some snapshot from head ;)08:00
asace.g. we have a release NSPR_HEAD_20070713 :)08:01
asachave fun :)08:01
UbuletteI need a place to store my .orig.tar.gz ? can i do that on LP ?08:01
UbuletteI need a place to store my .orig.tar.gz... can i do that on LP ?08:02
Ubulettestore my tarballs dir08:02
asacUbulette: let me think :)08:05
asacUbulette: are those tags released on mofo ftp?08:09
Ubulettehmm.. we should to a -dbg for GP.. would help for bugs like bug 13223508:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132235 in firefox-granparadiso "[GUTSY]  firefox-granparadiso crashed" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13223508:09
asacUbulette: there are dbgsym packages available08:09
Ubulettedbgsym ?08:10
asacif hjmf fails to backtrace then the core is probably bad08:10
asacwhich looks reasonable given the size of just a few k08:11
Ubulettethis one should be retried with trunk-dbg08:11
Ubuletteyet it's not pushed...  so not easy for testers08:12
asachjmf: can you please remove coredumps when you open up bugs?08:12
asacor wasn't bug 132235 marked private?08:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132235 in firefox-granparadiso "[GUTSY]  firefox-granparadiso crashed" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13223508:12
Ubuletteno08:13
asacUbulette: does java work for you?08:15
Ubulettenot with a708:16
Ubulettehaven't tried trunk with java08:16
Ubulettegasp, trunk #47 is bad. my mistake08:17
asacso i think you can just reproduce it ;)08:17
asacfix it on top :)08:17
asacor didn't I push yet?08:17
Ubulettesystem cairo patch misplaced :(08:17
Ubuletteyou did, too late08:18
UbuletteI can do 51 :P08:18
asacthats good08:19
asaci like activity ;)08:19
asaceven though I like perfect things as well ;)08:19
Ubuletteme too, for both08:22
Ubuletteasac, pushed 51 (system cairo) and 52 (minefield branding)08:26
Ubulettetested, ok08:26
asacgood .desktop file updated as well?08:27
asacwhich icon does show up in menus? in window?08:27
Ubuletteoops08:27
asacis the window icon the mine pixmap?08:27
Ubulettebig blue earth (= GP)08:28
Ubulettedon't merge yet. I'll update that08:29
UbuletteI guess I should install debian/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/icons/mozicon128.png instead of debian/tmp/usr/lib/firefox-trunk/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm08:37
Ubulettehmm, no.08:39
Ubuletteicon seems ok, but my panel is not uptodate08:40
Ubulettegnome-menu08:40
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JazzvaEvening...08:41
Ubulettelo again08:42
asacUbulette: does .desktop file still have explicity file extensions?08:43
asace.g. .png?08:43
asacif so, please drop it08:43
asacUbulette: and please convert the 128 icon to something smaller :) ... if you want that08:44
Ubuletteasac, icon is fine. I just changed the description: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/18421808:47
Ubuletteand yes, it's still .png08:48
asack08:48
Ubulettehow can I force my menu to update icons ?08:49
Ubulettepushed #5208:51
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asacUbulette: killall gnome-panel ;)08:57
asac... i assume08:57
asacno idea if there is a UI for reloading it08:57
Ubuletteargh, no. notification area applet is not smart enough to redock all systrayed apps08:58
asacso is it random?08:59
asacotherwise the applications might not behave properly?08:59
Ubulettesystrays end up as mini windows everywhere09:00
asacby killall?09:00
asacwierd09:00
asackill again ;)09:00
Ubuletteno, it's well known notification area applet issue09:02
Ubulettetry it :)09:02
Ubulettehm, why do we have /usr/share/app-install/firefox*.desktop AND /usr/share/applications/firefox*.desktop ?09:03
Ubulettesorry09:04
Ubulettehm, why do we have /usr/share/app-install/desktop/firefox*.desktop AND /usr/share/applications/firefox*.desktop ?09:04
Ubuletteoh, that's app-install-data fault09:05
asacUbulette: i think its a feature09:24
Ubulettelol, ok :)09:24
asacimo there is potential for improvement... but i am not really familiar with gnoma-app-install specifics09:24
asacin fact it exists, so the .desktop file exists even if you don't have firefox installed09:25
Ubuletteso /usr/share/app-install/desktop/firefox-trunk.desktop will never exist09:26
asacmost likely not ... right09:26
asacmaybe you can add data to app-install though09:26
asace.g. by app-install-mozillateam-pack09:26
asacor something09:26
Ubuletteor simply add a link there as it's really specific09:27
asacwell ... that would give you wierd behaviour ... like -trunk is listed in gnome app install ... so you can uninstall09:28
asacbut then it disappears and you can only install through apt-get again09:28
Ubuletteoh09:29
asacso at some points it might be possible to release a mozillateam pack ... so users get all our non-official packages in gnome-app-install09:29
asacand adept (or however kde thing is called09:29
asac)09:29
asacUbulette: sorry ... it might be out of scroll back ...do you see a plugin manager to uninstall/install/disable plugins in trunk builds?09:32
asacmozilla folks claimed that such a thing still exists09:32
asacs/still/now/09:33
Ubuletteno09:33
UbuletteI've seen a recent bug discussing that, it was inside the Addons UI09:33
asacyes09:33
asacis there such a thing?09:33
asacso why not? is it windows specific or what?09:34
UbuletteI don't see anything like that in my build09:37
Ubuletteit's browser-snapshot-2007081309:37
Ubuletteso it's pretty fresh09:37
Ubulettemaybe a new knob09:37
asaccrazy09:37
asacmaybe it did not land yet09:37
Ubulettehm, in debian, Mike used NSPR_4_6_7_RTM so it's 4.6.7, with NSPR_HEAD_20070713, I obtain 4.7.0.09:52
Ubuletteasac, how should I name my sources ?09:54
Ubulettenspr-trunk-4.7.0+cvs20070713/nspr-snapshot-20070713.tar.bz209:54
Ubulette?*09:54
Ubuletteor do you want 4.6.99 ?09:54
Ubuletteand it's not really a snapshot as it's taggued09:55
asacUbulette: mike doesn't maintain embedded tarball09:56
asacwe should keep it that way09:56
Ubuletteok09:57
Ubulettequestion remains. How should I name the .orig.tar.gz ?09:57
Ubulettespr-trunk-4.7.0+cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz ?09:57
Ubulettenspr-trunk-4.7.0+cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz ?09:58
Ubulettenspr-trunk-4.6.99+cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz ?09:58
Ubuletteor what ?09:58
Ubulettenspr-4.6.99+cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz ?09:58
asacwhat is the version of nspr?09:58
asaci mean is it a 4.7.0 preview?09:59
UbuletteMOD_MAJOR_VERSION=409:59
UbuletteMOD_MINOR_VERSION=709:59
UbuletteMOD_PATCH_VERSION=009:59
UbuletteNSPR_MODNAME=nspr2009:59
asacok09:59
asacthen use nspr-trunk-4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz09:59
asacso 4.7.0 will be greater then what we ship now09:59
asacs/then/than/09:59
Ubulettenever got the difference between + and ~ there09:59
asacwell + is just a normal sign ... while ~ is a special sign10:00
asacit means "just smaller than what before"10:00
Ubulette4.7.0~foo < 4.7.0 ?10:00
asacyes10:00
Ubuletteoh, really ? excellent10:01
asacand 4.7.0~~foo  < 4.7.0~foo10:01
asacits useful for alpha,beta, cvs10:01
asacand preview packages (when used in debian revision)10:01
asac-1~mt110:01
Ubulettethere are so many "+svnYYYYMMDD" "+cvsxxxxxx" in ubuntu10:02
Ubulettewell maybe not anymore.10:03
asacyeah ... they don't get it right10:03
asacwell some use 4.6.9999910:03
asacits in since woody?10:04
Ubuletteyou do too10:04
Ubulettefirefox-trunk-2.99+2cvs2007081310:04
asacyeah10:04
Ubuletteix:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 2.99+2cvs20070813 lt 3.0~cvs2007081410:06
Ubuletteix:~$ echo $?10:06
Ubulette010:06
Ubuletteok, cool, next time, we'll bump it10:06
Ubulettehmm, naming the branch ubuntu.trunk or trunk is not good if you work in the same env as firefox10:14
Ubuletteasac ?10:16
Ubulettewanna prefix the branch name with appname ?10:17
Ubuletteasac, I've updated bug 13223510:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132235 in firefox-granparadiso "[GUTSY]  firefox-granparadiso crashed" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13223510:41
asacUbulette: why=10:46
asacis the branch name bad?10:46
asacusually you branch like : $projectname.$branchname10:47
asaci already wand to write a branch-x command for bzr which automatically chooses a namespaced local name for branch10:47
Ubuletteif you have ~/bzr/ubuntu-trunk for ff, creating another branch called ubuntu-trunk is doomed10:47
asacits more or less best practice not to repeat the projectname in branchname10:47
asacwell i branch as $projectname.$branchname10:48
asacto avoice these conflicts10:48
asaclook at the branch url ... naming the projectname in the branchname would really be ambigious :)10:48
Ubuletteyou mean, locally you use $projectname.$branchname but push as $branchname ?10:49
asacyes10:49
asaci always explicitly specify a name when branching10:49
asacalmost all branches in launchpad are called debian or trunk or main or ubuntu10:50
asac:)10:50
Ubuletteok, make sense. I'll need to do some cleanup locally10:51
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Ubuletteasac, what about my question about where to store my tarballs ?11:23
asacUbulette: there are tarballs for nspr:11:24
asachttp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/nspr/releases/v4.6.7/src/11:24
asacUbulette: at best use the trunk package cvs section and add something to plumber your own orig tarball11:25
Ubulette?11:26
Admiral_Chicagoi'm back :)11:26
Ubulettehello11:29
Ubuletteasac, do I need to keep uscan ? I'm in nspr right now11:29
UbuletteBTW, I've stopped working on minefield/trunk, it's in good shape now11:30
asaccool11:32
Ubulettegranparadiso too, just need the update-notifier fix, but I need to get rid of pgrep 1st.11:32
asacnow we just have to wait for gnomefreak ...11:32
Ubulette?11:34
Ubulette<Ubulette> asac, do I need to keep uscan ?11:44
asacuscan?11:54
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asacgnomefreak usually maintains our mt archive ... so i would prefer if he builds, updates repo12:02
asacUbulette: ensure that you bump soname12:03
Ubuletteasac,12:04
UbuletteLooking for ../tarballs/nspr-trunk_4.7.0~cvs20070713.orig.tar.gz to use as upstream source12:05
UbuletteUsing uscan to look for the upstream tarball12:05
Ubulettenspr-trunk: remote site does not even have current version12:05
Ubulettethat's why I ask if we have to keep uscan (debian/watch)12:05
asacah12:11
asacwell ... steal cvs code from firefox-trunk package and adapt that ;)12:11
asacdrop uscan12:11
asacand watch as well12:12
UbuletteI've dropped watch, it's not enough.12:16
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