[12:01] <ahmadsaifan> i have beryl installed
[12:01] <ahmadsaifan> can i have like a fish tank in the middle of my desktop cube?
[12:01] <Sunnyboi14> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33624
[12:01] <ratpoison> hello. I need help installing the emu-1212m sound card on Feisty x86_64. For that I need to install alsa 1.0.14, with module emu10k1-fpga
[12:01] <ratpoison> hello. I need help installing the emu-1212m sound card on Feisty x86_64. For that I need to install alsa 1.0.14, with module emu10k1-fpga. Can anyone please help?
[12:02] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[12:02] <ratpoison> hello. I need help installing the emu-1212m sound card on Feisty x86_64. For that I need to install alsa 1.0.14, with module emu10k1-fpga. Can anyone please help?
[12:02] <d4rkmonkey> what can I use to open .rars?
[12:03] <fiction> Hey guys. I have a harddrive that isn't getting mounted automatically on startup. any thoughts?
[12:03] <sayers> Hello. I installed my Ati Graphics card and now sound doesn't work. WHy?
[12:03] <palintheus> !rar d4rkmonkey
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar d4rkmonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <astro76> !rar | d4rkmonkey
[12:03] <d4rkmonkey> !rar
[12:03] <ubotu> d4rkmonkey: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:03] <georgy28> d4rkmonkey : unrar
[12:03] <ahmadsaifan> Who here can help me with beryl?
[12:03] <Sunnyboi14> Hello?
[12:03] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: hmm I see that
[12:03] <d4rkmonkey> thankyou
[12:03] <Sunnyboi14> oh
[12:03] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:03] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: it seems that windows is too dumb for this
[12:03] <Sunnyboi14> lol
[12:03] <poningru> do you have your ubuntu cd?
[12:03] <Sunnyboi14> yup
[12:03] <poningru> we need to use gparted
[12:04] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:04] <fiction> I have 3 hard drives. how do i view which one is sda, and sdb, and sdc, etc?
[12:04] <poningru> can you boot into that?
[12:04] <Sunnyboi14> i have it installed
[12:04] <astro76> ahmadsaifan, try #ubuntu-effects
[12:04] <Sunnyboi14> and yes
[12:04] <Sunnyboi14> i can
[12:04] <Sunnyboi14> hold on a moment
[12:04] <poningru> no dont boot into the installed one
[12:04] <ahmadsaifan> astro76, ive been there, no one talks there!
[12:04] <poningru> just the live cd
[12:04] <PriceChild> ahmadsaifan, well then be patient
[12:04] <ahmadsaifan> :(
[12:04] <furenku> is it possible to use MAX/MSP on ubuntu?
[12:04] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[12:04] <ahmadsaifan> But ca?n anyone help me here
[12:05] <Sunnyboi14> dang
[12:05] <Sunnyboi14> got to restart comp
[12:05] <Sunnyboi14> hold on
[12:05] <sayers> My sound just stoped working on Ubuntu after using the ATI driver .
[12:05] <palintheus> ahmadsaifan: you have asked the same question several times, you may use ubuntuforums.org and wait for an answer or be more patient
[12:05] <astro76> ahmadsaifan, I have yet to see a single beryl or compiz question answered in here, best luck waiting in #ubuntu-effects or try the forum
[12:05] <fiction> I have 3 hard drives. how do i view which one is sda, and sdb, and sdc, etc?
[12:06] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:06] <Sunnyboi14> im starting up
[12:06] <ratpoison> ahmadsaifan there is a great post at the forum, it helped me install compiz
[12:06] <fiction> ahmadsaifan: what is the question?
[12:06] <jza> !nl
[12:06] <Sunnyboi14> load screen
[12:06] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:06] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: k
[12:06] <ratpoison> i don't remember his nick, but his avatar was the thundercats logo
[12:06] <ahmadsaifan> How can i have like a fish tank in the middle of my desktop cube??/
[12:06] <ahmadsaifan> or anything else cool
[12:06] <Sunnyboi14> if i want to talk to someone specificly, do i have to type their name every time?
[12:06] <astro76> fiction, one way is df -h, will show what's mounted where
[12:06] <Mr-Snick> astro76: i've been helped 2 times in here, so that isnt true
[12:06] <Sunnyboi14> just wondering
[12:06] <fiction> ahmadsaifan: don'
[12:06] <Mr-Snick> o . O
[12:06] <Ecalix> ahmadsaifan, are you using compiz or beryl?
[12:06] <fiction> ahmadsaifan: don't know
[12:06] <astro76> Mr-Snick, lol ok ;)
[12:07] <ahmadsaifan> beryl
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> i got ubuntu up and running
[12:07] <Ecalix> ahmadsaifan, ok, i'd suggest using compiz actually
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> hold on a sec
[12:07] <ahmadsaifan> Compiz is the same thing
[12:07] <Ecalix> ahmadsaifan, one sec and i'll find you a really good walkthrough on it
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:07] <PriceChild> ahmadsaifan, beryl/compiz in #ubuntu-effects
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:07] <ahmadsaifan> and i dont knwow how to get it
[12:07] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: let me know when you have gparted up and running
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:07] <ratpoison> hello. I need help installing the emu-1212m sound card on Feisty x86_64. For that I need to install alsa 1.0.14, with module emu10k1-fpga. Can anyone please help?
[12:07] <fiction> Howcome one my hard drivers isn't being mounted on startup? i checked fstab
[12:07] <Sunnyboi14> got it.
[12:08] <Ecalix> ahmadsaifan, i do a lot with compiz... so one sec and i'll send ya the link mate ;)
[12:08] <ahmadsaifan> people are telling me i need compiz-fusion
[12:08] <Ecalix> ahmadsaifan, yes
[12:08] <peeps_work> I cannot get suspend to work correctly on my laptop.  I have a Dell Precision M60, with Nvidia GeForce FX Go700
[12:08] <ahmadsaifan> is compiz-fusion using compiz and beryl?
[12:08] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: now find the drive that is your usb drive
[12:08] <peeps_work> does anyone know what I can do
[12:08] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:08] <PriceChild> ahmadsaifan, Ecalix #ubuntu-effects please
[12:08] <Sunnyboi14> ummmmmm
[12:08] <Sunnyboi14> i dont know which one
[12:08] <ahmadsaifan> Pricechild, i;ve been there
[12:08] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[12:08] <bigjohnto> what are some good live CD's
[12:09] <Sunnyboi14> its kinda confusing
[12:09] <ratpoison> ahmadsaifan: beryl was a fork project of beryl. they are joining again
[12:09] <zonkiest> Hi, can anyone tell me what is the default file system when doing a default install of 6.06 LTS Server edition?
[12:09] <ahmadsaifan> i've been redirected a lot
[12:09] <bigjohnto> posix/mosix style, not installable, just usable
[12:09] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: you can pick and choose from the little arrow thing on the top
[12:09] <ahmadsaifan> ok ratpoison
[12:09] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:09] <Sunnyboi14> got it
[12:09] <Ecalix> PriceChild, its ok... im providing him a link to something that works in ubuntu... there should be no issues
[12:09] <ratpoison> beryl was a fork project of compiz *
[12:09] <Sunnyboi14> there are little locked thingys next to the names though
[12:09] <ratpoison> correction to previous :)
[12:09] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: you booted into the live cd?
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> ummmmmmmmmm
[12:10] <PriceChild> Ecalix, I would appreciate it if you moved the discussion to #ubuntu-effects please.
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> what do you mean
[12:10] <fiction> Either that or talk in PM
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> i shouldnt use the HD to boot up
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> ?
[12:10] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: no dude
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> got it
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> sry
[12:10] <poningru> use the live cd
[12:10] <poningru> right
[12:10] <Sunnyboi14> im not very good with linux
[12:10] <poningru> its cool
[12:10] <Ecalix> I dont see any issues with providing somebody a link to help them regardless of the channel topic
[12:10] <matthew_b> i need a short hint - can't find any utility that dumps socket communication
[12:11] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:11] <Sunnyboi14> loading
[12:11] <Ecalix> ahmadsaifan, here ya go mate, check out this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[12:12] <ahmadsaifan> thanks ecalix, ill check it out
[12:12] <Sunnyboi14> argh
[12:12] <mindsideout> I am unable to click "ok" to a screen inside of terminal - I can only scroll up and down with my wheel mouse
[12:12] <ahmadsaifan> be right back
[12:12] <Sunnyboi14> still loading
[12:12] <astronouth7303> wine now crashes with a backtrace including glx
[12:12] <Sunnyboi14> almost done
[12:13] <astro76> mindsideout, try tab to select the ok, and space or enter to click it
[12:13] <astronouth7303> for basic apps (like the wine config)
[12:13] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:13] <zonkiest> Hi, can anyone tell me what is the default file system when doing a default install of 6.06 LTS Server edition?
[12:13] <IdleOne> mindsideout: hit tab to select the OK then hit enter
[12:13] <mindsideout> Thanks - I feel so stupid - I messed with it for a long time
[12:13] <astro76> zonkiest, ext3
[12:13] <mindsideout> duh!!
[12:13] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:13] <Sunnyboi14> loaded
[12:13] <MrObvious> zonkiest: ext3
[12:13] <zonkiest> thanks astro76
[12:13] <Sunnyboi14> hold on a sec while i start gparted
[12:14] <bernier> How can I safely switch from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[12:14] <astro76> bernier, install ubuntu-desktop package
[12:14] <Sunnyboi14> gparted is running
[12:15] <Sunnyboi14> this time it does not give me an option to vie the other drive
[12:15] <Sunnyboi14> hold on
[12:15] <Sunnyboi14> lol
[12:15] <bernier> astro76 ty
[12:15] <Sunnyboi14> i turned off the drive
[12:15] <poningru> hehe
[12:15] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: you may have to restart gparted
[12:15] <matthew_b> need an utility that dumps socket communication... could anybody recommend a program or at least give me a hint - where to look for it
[12:15] <Sunnyboi14> i clicked refresh
[12:16] <Sunnyboi14> found it
[12:16] <Sunnyboi14> now only 2 of the thingys are locked
[12:16] <Sunnyboi14> the 2 important ones
[12:16] <Sunnyboi14> great
[12:16] <Lars_G> I wonder
[12:16] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: right click and unmount
[12:17] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:17] <PriceChild> !enter | Sunnyboi14
[12:17] <Lars_G> since python-cairo comes with files for python2.5 and 2.4 inside, how come when using 2.5 I get: ImportError: No module named cairo when used with 2.5 ONLY ?
[12:17] <ubotu> Sunnyboi14: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:17] <Sunnyboi14> both of then?
[12:18] <Sunnyboi14> unmount both partitions?
[12:18] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: you want to get rid of both right?
[12:18] <Sunnyboi14> i think so
[12:18] <poningru> right then yes
[12:18] <Sunnyboi14> but when i do this
[12:18] <poningru> hmm?
[12:18] <Sunnyboi14> will i be able to backup my files on this hard drive
[12:19] <Sunnyboi14> so when i go back to windows, i can put all my files back on
[12:19] <Sunnyboi14> ?
[12:19] <jrib> Lars_G: pastebin the result of: python -c 'import sys; print sys.path'
[12:19] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: yes
[12:19] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:19] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:19] <Sunnyboi14> im unmounting the other one
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> 1
[12:20] <palintheus> !enter | Sunnyboi14
[12:20] <ubotu> Sunnyboi14: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> 2
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> 3
[12:20] <kristoffer> Good evening =)
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> AAH!
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> now the other one is locked
[12:20] <Lars_G> jrib: http://rafb.net/p/MO3ErN30.html
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> one at a time?
[12:20] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: err sure do the one that is closest to the one you want to keep first
[12:20] <Sunnyboi14> huh
[12:20] <jrib> Lars_G: python -c 'import cairo'    throws an error?
[12:21] <KalleDK> Hey what is the key combo that makes the running app go in "deamon" mode so I can use the terminal while its running (server)
[12:21] <Lars_G> jrib: correct (throws import error)
[12:21] <jrib> Lars_G: what does 'dpkg -L cairo' return?
[12:22] <poningru> KalleDK: put an & at teh end of the command
[12:22] <jrib> Lars_G: oops, what does 'dpkg -L python-cairo' return?
[12:22] <Sunnyboi14> when i unmounted the second one, the one i unmounted unlocked, but the one i just unmounted before locked again. Should i just do one at a time?
[12:22] <poningru> if its already running press ctrl+z for
[12:22] <Lars_G> jrib: I'm trying to decypher /etc/python2.5/site.py
[12:22] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: yes
[12:22] <KalleDK> poningru Thx
[12:22] <TheArthur> hello, im writing a script that needs to do stuff everytime a package is upgraded or added to the pools
[12:22] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:22] <Sunnyboi14> should i do the big one or the little one first?
[12:22] <astro76> KalleDK, ctrl+z to suspend, jobs to list jobs, bg %jobnumber to run in bakcground
[12:22] <miles> Can Kopete display MSN+ formatted nicknames on the MSN protocol? (no trolling this time please)
[12:22] <TheArthur> anyone have advice on how to efficiently poll for new versions of ANY package
[12:22] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: the one closest to the one you want to keep
[12:22] <Sunnyboi14> what do you mean
[12:23] <Sunnyboi14> the one with more Gb?
[12:23] <zonkiest> If i want to download a live cd, do i just grab the desktop edition?
[12:23] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: yes
[12:23] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:23] <bruenig> TheArthur, of any package you have installed?
[12:23] <astro76> zonkiest, yes
[12:23] <PriceChild> TheArthur, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:23] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: ooh dont delete the last one
[12:23] <Lars_G> jrib: http://rafb.net/p/8hPWOT91.html
[12:23] <poningru> the 2gig one
[12:23] <zonkiest> thanks
[12:23] <TheArthur> i have a list of packages in a file that are not installed
[12:23] <poningru> that is your backup software stuff
[12:23] <Sunnyboi14> what?
[12:23] <Sunnyboi14> oh
[12:23] <TheArthur> source packages
[12:23] <Sunnyboi14> i wont
[12:24] <TheArthur> i need to keep them up to date
[12:24] <Sunnyboi14> i mean the 46 or the 183
[12:24] <Sunnyboi14> im doing the 183 one first
[12:24] <Kopfgeldjaeger> bye
[12:24] <TheArthur> i was thinking of downloading the package list, parcing it and comparing it with the last one
[12:24] <jrib> Lars_G: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/cairo/__init__.py exists?
[12:24] <TheArthur> but thats a lot of work
[12:25] <DrCurl> hi
[12:25] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:25] <arturo_on_rails> Hi guys, an Intel PRO/Wireless 2011B is saying 'can't download firmware' when inserting...  Does anybody have experience with this?  It should be supported...
[12:25] <TheArthur> hello DrCurl
[12:25] <Sunnyboi14> how do i do it
[12:25] <ratpoison> I need help installing alsa 1.0.14 on feisty x86_64. Even though I install all the modules, my card doesn't work.
[12:25] <Sunnyboi14> its unlocked
[12:25] <Lars_G> jrib: bingo. it does not, but 2.4's does
[12:25] <TheArthur> arturo_on_rails,  install the firmware package
[12:25] <Sunnyboi14> now what do i do to free up the partition?
[12:25] <TheArthur> arturo_on_rails,  ipw-firmware
[12:25] <unagi> why doesnt the wifi list refresh itsself?
[12:25] <arturo_on_rails> TheArthur: Thanks!
[12:26] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: ok now right click on the partition you want to keep
[12:26] <DrCurl> I have a strange problem that appeared after a edgy->feisty dist-upgrade. The computer will not boot the first time I turn it on, but it always boot the second time I try???
[12:26] <poningru> and press on resize
[12:26] <Sunnyboi14> i dont want to keep anything
[12:26] <Sunnyboi14> i want it to go back to normal
[12:26] <poningru> you dont?
[12:26] <Lars_G> jrib: but it's not a symlink to /usr/share/pycentral/python-cairo/site-packages/cairo/__init__.py and not listed in dpkg -L
[12:26] <unagi> !wireless
[12:26] <TheArthur> DrCurl,  thats un-fun
[12:26] <Sunnyboi14> so that it is like it was when i bought it
[12:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:26] <Lars_G> jrib: I wonder, is it copied there by the install script? something reproducible for 2.5 too?
[12:26] <Sunnyboi14> so i can backup my files
[12:26] <jrib> Lars_G: hmm, it should automatically get created when you install python-cairo.  I have it here, so it might be worth a try to just ask it to purge and then reinstall: 'sudo aptitude purge python-cairo && sudo aptitude install python-cairo'
[12:26] <unagi> how do you get the network manager to refresh the wireless list
[12:27] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: oh then just delete the 180gig partition
[12:27] <poningru> and delete the 49 gig partition
[12:27] <Sunnyboi14> just right click it and say delete?
[12:27] <poningru> and then make a new partition and make it fat32
[12:27] <poningru> yes
[12:27] <DrCurl> TheArthur, yeah, and I don't get how it can be cause by Ubuntu, I don't even get to the bios when I try to boot the first time
[12:27] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:27] <Sunnyboi14> hold on
[12:27] <poningru> but do not delete the 2.94 whatever gig partition
[12:27] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:27] <unagi> !hibernation
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <TheArthur> DrCurl, sounds like your system has .... hardware issues ....
[12:27] <unagi> !suspend
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <Sunnyboi14> now it says unallocated
[12:28] <Lars_G> jrib: purge is too large a chain of dependencies that will go out and in.
[12:28] <ratpoison> !compile from source
[12:28] <ratpoison> :p
[12:28] <unagi> anyone here use wireless?
[12:28] <Sunnyboi14> should i rename it to fat32?
[12:28] <TheArthur> I do
[12:28] <jrib> Lars_G: see if 'sudo aptitude reinstall python-cairo' is enough
[12:28] <unagi> do u use the default network manager?
[12:28] <astro76> DrCurl, could it be a difference in powering off/on versus reset button?
[12:28] <shadowhywind> is there some command that i can run to check to see if i have an internet connection or not?
[12:29] <unagi> shadowhywind: ping
[12:29] <astro76> unagi, I do... it just updated right now actually so works here
[12:29] <Sunnyboi14> shadowhywind!!!
[12:29] <unagi> why doesnt it have an option to refresh the lsit
[12:29] <Sunnyboi14> Type Whois "Site Name Here"
[12:29] <Lars_G> jrib: yes, now it's in neither dir and neither version of python can load it
[12:29] <arturo_on_rails> TheArthur: I can't find the package ipw-firmware in packages.ubuntu.com... Where are they?
[12:29] <shadowhywind> unagi ping doesn't seam to be working for me. It just hangs till the internet connects gets reestabliesd
[12:29] <jrib> Lars_G: heh
[12:29] <ratpoison> ping url e.g. ping www.google.com
[12:29] <shadowhywind> sunnyboi14 hi?
[12:29] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: no partition it as type fat32
[12:29] <DrCurl> astro76, there is only one button, I need to hold it to turn the computer off manually
[12:29] <suspec1> what is Kernel release: 2.6.23-rc3,
[12:29] <Sunnyboi14> how?
[12:30] <poningru> Sunnyboi14: new partition
[12:30] <poningru> type fat32
[12:30] <jrib> Lars_G: you're on feisty?
[12:30] <Yochua> hey. I would like to be taught how to install packages that are .deb and .tar.bz2 pleaseee
[12:30] <Sunnyboi14> how do i?
[12:30] <Sunnyboi14> like what do i click on?
[12:30] <Sunnyboi14> right click on it and say new?
[12:30] <poningru> yes
[12:30] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:30] <Lars_G> jrib: yep
[12:30] <astro76> shadowhywind, ping will eventually timeout, you can use -W to set a shorter timeout
[12:31] <rafael__> hello all
[12:31] <Yochua> How do you install .deb and .tar.bz2 packages
[12:31] <ratpoison> I need help installing alsa 1.0.14 on feisty x86_64. Even though I install all the modules, my card doesn't work.
[12:31] <unagi> anyone know of a network monitor that you can refresh the list?
[12:31] <jrib> Yochua: you try to avoid it whenever possible.  You'll find that most things are in the repositories after you enable universe and multiverse
[12:31] <Sunnyboi14> how do i rename it?
[12:31] <jrib> !deb > Yochua (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:32] <jrib> !compiling > Yochua (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:32] <unagi> am i the only one on the planet that wants to refresh the list?
[12:32] <Sunnyboi14> right now it says new partition #1
[12:32] <astro76> unagi, it refreshes here every few seconds, something must be wrong
[12:32] <Sunnyboi14> how do i change that?
[12:32] <unagi> lol maybe im just not use to being in new york city so 500 listings is normal
[12:32] <Sunnyboi14> And Does it matter what it is named?
[12:32] <unagi> i cant connect to any of them
[12:32] <shadowhywind> astro76 i just tried that same thing. It paused at try 18 and resumed at try 47. Anyway to show them not working?
[12:33] <unagi> i would just much rather have control over when  it refreshes
[12:33] <arturo_on_rails> gentoo: what is your problem?  I don't understand?
[12:33] <georgy28> ratposon, : do you load the correct module ?
[12:33] <astro76> unagi, hehe that's very likely ;)
[12:33] <unagi> =)
[12:33] <unagi> just got here today
[12:33] <ubuntu1111> anyone know how u configure nvidia drivers dl'd from theeir website?
[12:33] <Yochua> jrib:  How do I enable all the repositories?
[12:33] <MrObvious> !easysource | Yochua
[12:33] <ubotu> Yochua: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:33] <unagi> Yochua: in synaptics
[12:33] <Sunnyboi14> Hello?
[12:33] <MrObvious> !sources
[12:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:33] <Sunnyboi14> Hello?
[12:33] <Ubuntuuser34> What is the main difference between beryl and 3ddesktop? I'm a noob to desktop switching
[12:33] <unagi> 50 million hotspots in my list and i cant connect to any of them
[12:34] <unagi> Ubuntuuser34: beryl crashes
[12:34] <cornell> Evening binarydigit, you about?  I've few minutes to move forward on my LVM situation.  (installing a new OS, and maintaining the existing VG)  I did an fdisk -l yesterday, it's at http://cornell.pastebin.com/m544661f5.
[12:34] <unagi> i much prefer compiz
[12:34] <unagi> its prettier
[12:34] <cornell> Is there other data I can gather, binarydigit?
[12:34] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, the name does not matter
[12:34] <Sunnyboi14> R u there?
[12:34] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:34] <Yochua> how do I do it through the synaptic?
[12:34] <Sunnyboi14> then nvm
[12:34] <Ubuntuuser34> isn't compiz part of beryl?
[12:34] <jrib> Lars_G: and you're not using any non-ubuntu repos?
[12:34] <Sunnyboi14> Thanks!
[12:34] <unagi> no
[12:34] <jrib> Ubuntuuser34: compiz and beryl have joined to become compiz-fusion
[12:35] <jrib> Yochua: do what?
[12:35] <unagi> but amanda bynes is hot
[12:35] <shadowhywind> so anyone know how to show the pings that are not returned
[12:35] <Ubuntuuser34> is there a compiz-fusion workable now?
[12:35] <Yochua> jrib:  enable all the repos.
[12:35] <jrib> Yochua: oh missed your question: system -> administration -> software sources
[12:35] <Karmak> What is a good replacement for MSN messenger in ubuntu? I'm looking just a messenger so Gaim is not an option.
[12:35] <unagi> workable?
[12:35] <unagi> karmak amsn
[12:35] <unagi> its not pretty but it works
[12:35] <rafael__> Karmak, amsn
[12:36] <Karmak> k, gotta test it
[12:36] <unagi> my laptop turned itself on in my backpack
[12:36] <unagi> poor thing must have been running for close to 3 hours with no air
[12:36] <Yochua> jrib:  okay what should I be seeing there?
[12:37] <benzs_s> how do you add keyboard shortcuts for switching workspaces in compiz?
[12:37] <DaniDiamond> is there a patch for feisty to avoid the "failed to stop array" message during shutdown?
[12:37] <DaniDiamond> sorry, this is for mdadm
[12:37] <jrib> Yochua: the first tab should have some checkmarks that correspond to universe and multiverse
[12:37] <ubuntu1111> !Easysource
[12:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:37] <unagi> benzs_s its under general
[12:37] <Yochua> jrib:  all are clicked? Is that what I want?
[12:38] <miles> Karmak, try "tmsnc" (command line based)
[12:38] <jrib> Yochua: yep
[12:38] <benzs_s> unagi: general? in Gnome Compiz Preferences or elsewhere?
[12:38] <palintheus> shadowhywind: it should start listing them like this if you are connected http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33628/
[12:38] <Sunnyboi14> can someone
[12:38] <Sunnyboi14> help
[12:38] <Yochua> jrib:  okay, I'm good then
[12:38] <unagi> in compiz fusion but im guessing u dont have that
[12:38] <Sunnyboi14> i made a new portition, and it says there is an error,
[12:38] <benzs_s> no, i don't think i do
[12:38] <shadowhywind> palintheus i know that, i am looking for it to give an output when it can't connect to it
[12:38] <unagi> u should get it
[12:39] <unagi> its prettyfied
[12:39] <Ubuntuuser34> I see compiz is already installed, how do you launch or use it?
[12:39] <Sunnyboi14> can someone help me?
[12:39] <palintheus> it should say timeout or when you stop it with ctrl+c it will show packet loss of 100%
[12:39] <unagi> Ubuntuuser34: compiz or compiz fusion
[12:39] <palintheus> shadowhywind: ^
[12:39] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, yeah I bet I know exactly what happened, using ubuntu livecd?
[12:39] <Sunnyboi14> I made a new portition in gparted
[12:39] <jrib> !enter | Sunnyboi14
[12:39] <ubotu> Sunnyboi14: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:39] <IdleOne> Sunnyboi14: what is the error?
[12:40] <shadowhywind> palintheus i was hoping to add this into a script, so somesort of output would be better if you know of a way
[12:40] <Sunnyboi14> and it told me it couldnt make a new portition
[12:40] <Ubuntuuser34> compiz-gnome 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13
[12:40] <benzs_s> soo... how do i go about installing compiz fusion? whatever that is
[12:40] <unagi> Sunnyboi14: did it say it wont make it because it hates you, do you owe it money, is it mounted?
[12:40] <Sunnyboi14> no
[12:40] <benzs_s> allegedly i already have compiz installed in any case.
[12:40] <Sunnyboi14> i unmounted it
[12:41] <unagi> benzs_s compiz is the 'desktop effects'
[12:41] <ConfidentiaL> benzs_s: There's a really nice guide on ubuntuforums.org
[12:41] <Sunnyboi14> because it was locked otherwise
[12:41] <Luke> Hello ... I have a problem with liquidweather ++ on kubuntu. I Install this soft ... (I Have all programs to use it) But ... something is wrong because the liquidweather dosen't work ... It's invisible ?
[12:41] <odom> does anybody in her know any linux jokes?
[12:41] <benzs_s> tbh, ConfidentiaL, it works fine, i just want to add 3 keyboard shortcuts...
[12:41] <unagi> !offtopic | odom
[12:41] <ubotu> odom: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:41] <Tonren> How can I play iTunes DRM-encrypted m4p files in Rhythmbox?
[12:41] <Sunnyboi14> Hello?
[12:41] <euxneks> is it possible to have multiple gateways for a single computer?
[12:41] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, what do you see now?
[12:41] <Ubuntuuser34> Unagi it is  compiz-gnome 1:0.3.6-1ubuntu13
[12:42] <palintheus> shadowhywind: can you set it to only ping so many times and then output the result it normally gives when you ctrl-c.....and Im reaching so Im not sure
[12:42] <Sunnyboi14> there is an error message
[12:42] <euxneks> I.e. my company has two gateways, can I use both?
[12:42] <unagi> compiz-fusion is more involved than desktop effects Ubuntuuser34
[12:42] <ConfidentiaL> benzs_s: Oh, why did you ask how to install compiz-fusion then?
[12:42] <benzs_s> ConfidentiaL: because somebody recommended installing it
[12:42] <Sunnyboi14> it tells me that it set the partitiontype
[12:42] <Daveyboy> what is the packge name for xfce
[12:42] <shadowhywind> palintheus i think i may just have to do it that way
[12:42] <benzs_s> ConfidentiaL: presumably in order to get these keyboard shortcuts... all i want to do is be able to switch between workspaces using a keyboard shortcut
[12:42] <IdleOne> Sunnyboi14: you need to learn how to be more specific with your questions. please provide as much information as possible so the WE can help you better. Also notice how I did not hit enter 20 times to tell you all this
[12:43] <Sunnyboi14> but it couldnt create a new fat32 filesystem
[12:43] <Ubuntuuser34> Unagi, thanks for the 411 on compiz-fusion , does compiz gnome have a desk cube?
[12:43] <benzs_s> currently i'm running regular 'compiz', i think
[12:43] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, is there a drive icon on your desktop?
[12:43] <miles> Ubuntuuser34, yes
[12:43] <shadowhywind> palintheus i will just have to use the count flag with it
[12:43] <Sunnyboi14> what would it say?
[12:43] <unagi> yes but compiz-fusions cube is so much better........you control the speed zoom.....and it has a beautiful cube reflection plugin
[12:43] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, disk?
[12:43] <Ubuntuuser34> how to use the deskcube with compiz-ubuntu? Do I need the manager installed?
[12:44] <ratpoison> I found this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-emu10k1-fpga where it tells me to use ./configure --with-cards = emu10k1-fpga but i get checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... configure: error: Unknown soundcard emu10k1-fpga
[12:44] <ratpoison> 
[12:44] <Sunnyboi14> disk-1
[12:44] <Sunnyboi14> yes
[12:44] <Sunnyboi14> thats what it says
[12:44] <benzs_s> unagi: i don't want the cube, or whatever, all i'm running is AWM...which requires compiz to be enabled ;)
[12:44] <madman91> hey guys
[12:44] <unagi> Ubuntuuser34: system>prefs>desktop effects
[12:44] <ConfidentiaL> benzs_s: Check System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:44] <Sunnyboi14> should i unmount it?
[12:44] <benzs_s> ConfidentiaL: apparently it overrides the keyboard shortcuts
[12:44] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, ok, and what is the device in gparted, /dev/sda1?
[12:44] <unagi> benzs_S then enable desktop effects
[12:44] <Sunnyboi14> hold on
[12:44] <Ubuntuuser34> unagi, thanks again, I'll look around in there
[12:44] <Sunnyboi14> lemme see
[12:44] <unagi> but i havent had dekstop effects mess with my shortcuts
[12:45] <benzs_s> i ahve enabled desktop effects and all taht jazz, but apparently they override the keyboard shortcuts i already had stored
[12:45] <TBotNik_u> all: Have ECS 755-A2 MB and trying to get sound installed.  Too noob to ubuntu to know what/how to fix.  Help please!
[12:45] <St> Hey guys why do the newer versions of ubuntu have less support time ?
[12:45] <Sunnyboi14> sdb1
[12:45] <madman91> having trouble setting up my dad's ubuntu's audio to work.. it has both onboard audio and a pci card.. I used both the ubuntu-sound-gui and asoundconf to set the soundcard, and i tried every hole in both sound cards .. but no sound? anyone have any ideas?
[12:45] <benzs_s> i can't switch workspaces using ctrl+1/2/3 anymore, that much is obvious :<
[12:45] <J-_> !lts
[12:45] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:45] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, if you put the nickname of who you are talking to like I did here, it will help me track your messages
[12:46] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, ok, close gparted, and unmount the drive
[12:46] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:46] <sirjoshimus> can some one tell me how to get my screen resolution bigger
[12:46] <St> i noticed that 6.06 will be supported longer than 7.04
[12:46] <Sunnyboi14> Astro76: ok, i did
[12:46] <St> I found that weird
[12:46] <jrib> !fixres > sirjoshimus (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:46] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, now go to Applications>accessories>gnome terminal
[12:47] <Sunnyboi14> k
[12:47] <Sunnyboi14> it just says terminal
[12:47] <arturo_on_rails> Guys, how can I tell apt-get to show me what it needs to download...  The lappy has no network (yet) and I have to copy the files accross via USB...
[12:47] <St> has anyone here had any problems installing apache2 and php5 together on 7.04
[12:47] <J-_> !resolution > sirjoshimus
[12:47] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, now in the terminal type: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[12:47] <IdleOne> St it is sorta like Win95 was better then win98 but not exactly because ubuntu does not suck
[12:47] <nexus2l> Ubuntu install disc fails when trying to find fd0. I dont have a floppy, how do I disable it? (what boot option)
[12:47] <palintheus> St
[12:48] <palintheus> srry
[12:48] <madman91> how do i setup my sound.. i tried both the gnome sound card gui and asoundconf and i tried all of the holes .. nothing doing
[12:48] <regeya> wheeeeeee, upgrading a ppc machine to feisty
[12:48] <palintheus> St: its for places that will not upgrade often and need longer support like schools, libraries, etc
[12:48] <St> Well I've been a user for awhile but I just noticed that when I downloaded the server the other day
[12:48] <rafael__> madman91, check in the main bar.. systray there is the icon of your control volume.. check if the sound is in max.
[12:49] <madman91> rafael__: it is.. and i checked alsamixer as well
[12:49] <madman91> and it is an old computer.. so drivers shouldnt be a problem
[12:49] <St> ok
[12:49] <georgy28> madman91, : wich soundcard do you have ?
[12:50] <St> So has anyone had problems with apache2 and php5 working together ?
[12:50] <madman91> georgy28: .. i would have to check.. its an old one.. brb checking
[12:50] <J-_> !LAMP
[12:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:50] <Sunnyboi14> it told me that the command was not found
[12:50] <unagi> !info kino
[12:50] <St> I know what lamp is
[12:50] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.92-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1126 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[12:51] <georgy28> madman : is it a isa card ?
[12:51] <St> I just wanted to install php and apache on my pc bc I had it on my server
[12:51] <unagi> lmao
[12:51] <unagi> isa
[12:51] <unagi> i feel old =/
[12:51] <barbarella> arturo_on_rails:Why, all should be on the cd/dvd what you need...but don't you have an internet onnetion
[12:51] <St> but when I installed php5 it messed up everything
[12:51] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, what exactly did you enter?
[12:51] <madman91> georgy28: it doesnt have any markings.. i'll check the name in asoundconf
[12:51] <St> I had apache1.3 maybe that was the problem ?
[12:51] <TBotNik_u> all: Have ECS 755-A2 MB and trying to get sound installed.  Too noob to ubuntu to know what/how to fix.  Help please!
[12:51] <St> having both
[12:52] <Sunnyboi14> sudo mkfs.vfat/dev/sdb1
[12:52] <Sunnyboi14> is that right?
[12:52] <georgy28> madman91, : do you have a marking on the chip ?
[12:52] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, space between vfat and /dev/sdb1 like this: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[12:52] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:52] <Sunnyboi14> thanks
[12:53] <madman91> georgy28: V8233 or UART
[12:53] <unagi> !rpg
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <barbarella> St:having both???
[12:53] <georgy28> madman : wait a minute
[12:53] <Sunnyboi14> it said no such file or directory
[12:53] <madman91> georgy28: sure
[12:54] <St> I had apache1.3 and I install php5 then it install apache2
[12:54] <madman91> georgy28: brb
[12:54] <St> then the server just died period
[12:54] <Sunnyboi14> Hello?
[12:54] <St> I'm uninstalling everything now
[12:54] <Sunnyboi14> it said no such file or directory
[12:54] <palintheus> !prefix | Sunnyboi14
[12:54] <ubotu> Sunnyboi14: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[12:54] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, also we need time to think and type! :)
[12:54] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:54] <Sunnyboi14> sry
[12:55] <Sunnyboi14> i am just anxious to get this fixed
[12:55] <St> I just installed the server the other day on a 500mhz 128 mb ram system and the server runs beautifully
[12:55] <benzs_s> ok so on following that guide for reinstalling compiz, the --purge compiz thing in terminal removed ubuntu-desktop...
[12:55] <Nippoo> hm. just switched to new ISP, they've given me a subnet mask of 255.255.248.0
[12:55] <Nippoo> is this possible?
[12:55] <benzs_s> i assume that is not meant to happen
[12:55] <St> but my main system messes up '
[12:55] <Nippoo> 'cause ubuntu system doesn't want to get an IP...
[12:55] <St> I just wanted to test my php pages before I sent them to the server
[12:56] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, are you able to pastebin stuff from the livecd?
[12:56] <Sunnyboi14> what do you mean?
[12:56] <xRaich[o] 2x> how can i make ubuntu use the gcc 3.4?
[12:56] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, do you have working internet in the livecd?
[12:57] <Ubuntuuser34> Everything turns black when I enable desktop effects, I have the nvidia drivers working
[12:57] <georgy28> madman91, : try do to a sudo modprobe via82cxxx in a trerminal
[12:57] <pvl> can any1 quickly help me set up my microphone?
[12:57] <Sunnyboi14> ummmm
[12:57] <georgy28> *terminal
[12:57] <Sunnyboi14> i have a live cd yes
[12:57] <Sunnyboi14> nippoo!!
[12:57] <Sunnyboi14> Nippoo??!!
[12:58] <madman91> georgy28: should that output anything?
[12:58] <Sunnyboi14> nippoo?
[12:58] <St> so no one has had any problems with the two then
[12:58] <Ubuntuuser34> Blackscreen with desktop effects?
[12:58] <Sunnyboi14> nippoo??
[12:58] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, what on earth are you talking about?
[12:58] <georgy28> madman91, : no, if everything is ok, then try to play a sound
[12:58] <Sunnyboi14> i want to ask nippoo something
[12:58] <Ubuntuuser34> Something wrong with compiz?
[12:59] <Sunnyboi14> is he still signed on?
[12:59] <astro76> Nippoo, yes that subnet mask should work fine
[12:59] <Sunnyboi14> oh nvm
[12:59] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[12:59] <Sunnyboi14> back to business
[01:00] <Sunnyboi14> when i typed that in the terminal, it said no such file or directory
[01:00] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, do you have working internet in the livecd?
[01:00] <Sunnyboi14> lemme c
[01:00] <Nippoo> Sunnyboi14?
[01:01] <Nippoo> astro76: doesn't that give me 2048 ips, though?
[01:01] <Tonren> How can I play iTunes DRM-encrypted m4p files in Rhythmbox?
[01:01] <madman91> georgy28: and of course.. my dads computer doesnt have any mp3's or ogg's .. or even mplayer :) ... just a minute
[01:01] <Nippoo> Sunnyboi14!
[01:01] <cec_> Hi Could someone help me with an installation of a small program called remind--a text based scheduler. I can't seen to write to my ~./reminders file. please see output of command at:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33630/
[01:01] <Sunnyboi14> yes i do
[01:01] <Sunnyboi14> oh
[01:01] <Sunnyboi14> nipoo
[01:01] <Nippoo> hi.
[01:01] <georgy28> madman91, : np
[01:01] <Sunnyboi14> just wondering
[01:01] <astro76> Nippoo, well not you, it's shared with others
[01:01] <Sunnyboi14> do you live in michigan?
[01:01] <palintheus> !enter > Sunnyboi14
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> nipoo, do you live in michigan?
[01:02] <Nippoo> astro76: so that subnet mask should work fine? i can allocate it to my pc?
[01:02] <Nippoo> Sunnyboi14: nope.
[01:02] <Nippoo> why?
[01:02] <astro76> Nippoo, indeed
[01:02] <Nippoo> hm.
[01:02] <Nippoo> k.
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> oh
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> ncm
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> nvm
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> back to business
[01:02] <Sunnyboi14> astro
[01:03] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, you've got to stop using enter so much as you've been told 4 times...
[01:03] <barbarella> Tonren:have you installed mp3 support for you box?
[01:03] <Sunnyboi14> astro76:i typed in that sudo stuff, and it said no such file or directory
[01:04] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, pastebin the output of the following command (you'll need to select the output in the terminal, then middle click in firefox to paste it): sudo fdisk -l
[01:04] <astro76> !pastebin | Sunnyboi14
[01:04] <ubotu> Sunnyboi14: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:04] <erisco> how can I tell if I am running on 32 bit or 64 bit?
[01:05] <madman91> georgy28: nothing..
[01:05] <Sunnyboi14> Astro.
[01:05] <Sunnyboi14> Please
[01:05] <DrCurl> re-hello
[01:05] <Sunnyboi14> help me
[01:05] <madman91> georgy28: i set the via to default in asoundconf ..
[01:05] <DrCurl> further info with my boot problem
[01:05] <barbarella> erisco:you can see it with uname
[01:05] <Sunnyboi14> what do i do now that is said no such file or directory?
[01:05] <erisco> barbarella, it just comes back "Linux"
[01:05] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, did you miss what I just said?
[01:05] <Sunnyboi14> yeah
[01:05] <barbarella> erisco:uname -a
[01:05] <Sunnyboi14> what did you say?
[01:05] <georgy28> madman91, : I suppose all the volume levels are up in the mixer ?
[01:05] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, can you scroll up?
[01:06] <Sunnyboi14> yes i can.
[01:06] <madman91> georgy28: yes
[01:06] <erisco> "Linux eric 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux" does anything there hint towards 32 or 64 bit?
[01:06] <cec_> Does any one here use remind with ubuntu?
[01:06] <madman91> georgy28: in alsamixer and in the little volume thing
[01:06] <Sunnyboi14> i dont see anything
[01:06] <DrCurl> Ubuntu doesn't shutdown correctly, reboot works, manual poweroff works, but each time I shutdown from ubuntu, the computer needs to be manua,lly shutdown by holding reset button if I want to boot it again
[01:06] <unagi> 1686 is 64
[01:06] <erisco> okay thanks
[01:06] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, pastebin the output of the following command (you'll need to select the output in the terminal, then middle click in firefox to paste it): sudo fdisk -l
[01:07] <astro76> !pastebin | Sunnyboi14
[01:07] <ubotu> Sunnyboi14: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:07] <erisco> just had to make sure to get the right version of this app... thanks
[01:07] <unagi> has anyone had problems with hibernation that they fixed?
[01:07] <georgy28> madman91, : ok, last try - sudo rmmod via82cxxx, then sudo modprobe via82cxxx_audio
[01:08] <Sunnyboi14> I DONT UNDERSTAND
[01:08] <unagi> Sunnyboi14: what are u trying to do?
[01:08] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, I gave you a command to type like you did earlier, I need to see the output
[01:09] <Sunnyboi14> the output was...
[01:09] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, use pastebin
[01:09] <Sunnyboi14> no such file or directory
[01:09] <Sunnyboi14> thats what it said
[01:09] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, no, I just gave you a new command... twice
[01:09] <Ubuntuuser34> I've got a compiz prob, when I enable opengl  I loose titlebars
[01:09] <madman91> georgy28: it says it is busy
[01:09] <madman91> georgy28: thus.. it cant remove it
[01:09] <Sunnyboi14> what is it again?
[01:09] <Sunnyboi14> im sry, i was confused
[01:10] <barbarella> erisco:you are right
[01:10] <cec_> Is there anyone that would be willing to install remind --aptitude install remind and run the command remind 14 Aug MSG <whatever> and let me know if it works--thanks
[01:10] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, scrollup and see what I said, I can't paste it again
[01:10] <boiddude> anyone on here from edubuntu?
[01:10] <Greyhound-> does anyone have the wallpaper from ubuntu ultimate edition ? the one with the dragon/dragonfly :)
[01:10] <boiddude> can you upgrade to edubuntu from dapper?
[01:10] <georgy28> madman91, : do lsmod and pastebin the result
[01:10] <Sunnyboi14> it does not show up
[01:10] <unagi> greyhound did u try google?
[01:10] <Greyhound-> yes
[01:10] <Sunnyboi14> did it have to do with fdisk?
[01:10] <Greyhound-> only found screenshots
[01:11] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, yes
[01:11] <Sunnyboi14> what was the command?
[01:11] <Sunnyboi14> ill get it this time
[01:11] <Sunnyboi14> sry
[01:11] <Tonren> barbarella: Not mp3s... m4ps.
[01:11] <georgy28> madman91, : pastebin the result of the lspci command too
[01:11] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, pastebin the output of the following command (you'll need to select the output in the terminal, then middle click in firefox to paste it): sudo fdisk -l
[01:11] <boiddude> EDUBUNTU anyone?
[01:12] <madman91> georgy28: paste.stgraber.org/2518  for the lsmod
[01:12] <tetrik> hello, I cant configure beryl on my ubuntu
[01:12] <astro76> boiddude, it's not really an upgrade, you'd just install edubuntu-desktop
[01:12] <boiddude> thank you
[01:12] <madman91> georgy28: paste.stgraber.org/2519  for the lspci
[01:12] <madman91> georgy28: sorry, I have to go.. will you be here for another 20 minutes?
[01:12] <tetrik> i get this message: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:13] <macogw> so any wifi geniuses in here capable of telling me how to route wifi through my desktop's bcm43xx so i can get wifi on my laptop?
[01:13] <barbarella> erisco:sorry uname -m
[01:13] <georgy28> madman91, : probably
[01:13] <madman91> georgy28: nvm.. i can stay
[01:13] <tetrik> hello, I cant configure beryl on my ubuntu :(
[01:13] <madman91> georgy28: do those pastebins help?
[01:13] <macogw> tetrik: whats the last thing you did before you got that error?
[01:13] <tetrik> i get this message: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:13] <macogw> !patience | tetrik
[01:13] <ubotu> tetrik: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:13] <mqueiros> Hello! Where does Ubuntu 7.04 keeps a log of all software installed using apt-get... ? Thanks!
[01:14] <tetrik> i downloaded beryl core
[01:14] <noelferreira> how can i connect to a static ip outiside my lan via vnc or anything else. preferencialy graphically.
[01:14] <macogw> mqueiros: if you run just "aptitude" by itself you can see whats there and whats not
[01:14] <shadhoe_> anyone know of any solutions for hissing or cracking sound at like really medium volumes?
[01:14] <madman91> tetrik: if this channel doesnt help.. try #beryl
[01:14] <tetrik> and beryl aquamarine
[01:14] <macogw> mqueiros: synaptic also shows all installed packages. if you're looking for a text-file though, sorry, i cant help
[01:14] <unagi> i love how people think they can slap a 1680X1050 monitor on a video card that can only do as high as
[01:14] <macogw> tetrik: from where?
[01:14] <docta_v> are there any alternate ubuntu kernels besides generic, servier and lowlatency? specifically i'm looking for something with preemption disabled
[01:15] <unagi>  1280X768 and think its going to look good
[01:15] <docta_v> since my system is apparently crashing due to a preempt bug
[01:15] <tetrik> http://www.beryl-project.org/releases.php
[01:15] <Sunnyboi14> paste.ubuntu-n;.org/33631
[01:15] <barbarella> Tonren:http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[01:15] <Sunnyboi14> got it?
[01:15] <macogw> docta_v: with that? probably not, i'm guessing. there's 686 with SMP and a few others...
[01:15] <astro76> macogw, the broadcom card and driver would have to support hostap mode, I'm not sure that it does
[01:15] <mqueiros> macogw: ok, I will take a look at it...
[01:15] <astro76> macogw, don't quote me on that though
[01:15] <macogw> tetrik: there's beryl in the universe repos.  dont get it from elsewhere
[01:15] <docta_v> just wondering if there's any guys out there that roll custom kernels
[01:15] <wubinoobi_> is there anyone that can answer a few questions for me about configuring my modem properly?  just installed x on an old desktop today but it doesn't want to connect.  i have a usb wire coming directly from the surfboard modem, but firefox don't wanna surf.
[01:16] <astro76> !modem | wubinoobi_
[01:16] <ubotu> wubinoobi_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:16] <astro76> wubinoobi_, sorry, you have cable :p
[01:16] <macogw> tetrik: all you need to do is enable universe in system > admin > software sources, then go to synaptic and reload the software list, and grab beryl from there
[01:16] <ratpoison> does anybody know if gutsy will include alsa 1.0.14
[01:16] <ratpoison> ?
[01:16] <Sunnyboi14> astro76: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33631
[01:16] <madman91> georgy28: still around?
[01:16] <docta_v> i know how to build custom kernels but it's a pain :(
[01:16] <unagi> whats the terminal command to view hard disk info?
[01:16] <macogw> docta_v: not really...i mean, the taking an hour bit....but overall its not hard
[01:17] <palintheus> unagi: fdisk -l
[01:17] <macogw> unagi: df -h
[01:17] <unagi> lol 2 answers i love it
[01:17] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, I thought you deleted the three partitions in gparted?
[01:17] <macogw> unagi: the one i posted shows sizes of partitions
[01:17] <georgy28> madman91, : yes, so normally you need to load the second module : sudo modprobe via82cxxx_audio
[01:17] <MrSiebel> Is anybody having trouble with their wireless anyone running 7.4?
[01:17] <unagi> interesting
[01:17] <Sunnyboi14> the 2 partitions
[01:17] <Sunnyboi14> i did
[01:17] <mqueiros> macogw: I was looking for /var/log/dpkg.log :) That way I can see what software I'v installed recently... in case I need to do it again on another machine...
[01:17] <unagi> ubuntu isnt seeing my other partitions
[01:17] <madman91> georgy28: but i could remove the first one
[01:17] <georgy28> madman91, : and it must working
[01:17] <Sunnyboi14> 2 of them have to be there
[01:18] <wubinoobi_> i gotta run out the door for five min, if anyone can help me with my config for internet, plz, plz
[01:18] <Sunnyboi14> sdb3 & 5
[01:18] <georgy28> madman91, : ok, try to reboot and then load the module
[01:18] <madman91> georgy28: ok.. hold on
[01:18] <macogw> mqueiros: oh ok.  you can use AptOnCD to make a copy of your installed system or use it to grab the debs from your /var/cache/apt/archives and make an apt repository which you can add to the other computer with "sudo apt-cd add"
[01:18] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, was there stuff on the windows partition you wanted to keep? and umm, why do 2 have to be there?
[01:18] <Sunnyboi14> i dont know
[01:18] <MrSiebel> Hello
[01:18] <Sunnyboi14> but the other person told me to leave them
[01:18] <MrSiebel> Anyone?
[01:18] <Sunnyboi14> so id rather not screw with them
[01:18] <macogw> MrSiebel: sure plenty of people have trouble with it if their card is evil
[01:18] <ferret_0567> unagi: df tells you how much free space you have on your filesystems, fdisk -l tells you how big your hard drives are and what size the partitions on them are
[01:18] <macogw> MrSiebel: what card is it?
[01:18] <barbarella> wubinoobi_:in 5 min. you don't need it!!!
[01:19] <MrSiebel> Intel
[01:19] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, the one he was talking about is on your sda (80GB), but you're talking about your sdb (250GB)
[01:19] <MrSiebel> I have a wireless G Belkin router
[01:19] <mqueiros> macogw: Hum.... That sounds great! Thanks!
[01:19] <Sunnyboi14> oh well
[01:19] <macogw> MrSiebel: 2200 or 3945?
[01:19] <Sunnyboi14> i dont need to delete them
[01:19] <Sunnyboi14> just ignore them
[01:19] <Sunnyboi14> sdb1 is the one i need to change to fat32
[01:19] <MrSiebel> 3945
[01:19] <Sunnyboi14> in gparted
[01:20] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, it was already fat32 I thought? it is now
[01:20] <macogw> MrSiebel: shouldnt have any issues then
[01:20] <noelferreira> how can i remotely connect to a pc outside my lan (via dynamic dns) ?
[01:20] <Sunnyboi14> well on gparted
[01:20] <MrSiebel> And what could it be if its 2200?
[01:20] <Sunnyboi14> it says unknown with an Exlamation Point next to in
[01:20] <macogw> MrSiebel: that card has open drivers and the binary firmware and daemon should be enabled by default
[01:20] <neverblue> noelferreira, install vnc on it, then use vnc to connect
[01:20] <Sunnyboi14> it*
[01:20] <Sunnyboi14> does that even matter?
[01:20] <neverblue> noelferreira, or use ssh, ftp, etc....
[01:20] <macogw> MrSiebel: 2200 i've heard can be touch
[01:20] <macogw> *tough
[01:20] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, is there anything on the 250GB drive you need to keep?
[01:20] <barbarella> noelferreira:openvpn, freeswan
[01:20] <Sunnyboi14> no
[01:21] <noelferreira> i need graphic connection
[01:21] <MrSiebel> macogw My desktop is wired and connected, my wireless is connected and my laptop knows there is a wireless signal but won't connect.
[01:22] <macogw> MrSiebel: hmm weird. do you have any encryption turned on?
[01:22] <Sunnyboi14> there is nothing on the 250gb drive i need to keep astro76
[01:22] <MrSiebel> No none
[01:22] <barbarella> noelferreira:a secure connection woold be your first concern
[01:22] <schwubuntu> hello, how can i erease a cd rw under ubuntu? (running as live cd ...)
[01:22] <barbarella> noelferreira:would i mean
[01:22] <macogw> schwubuntu: well youd need another cd drive...
[01:22] <neverblue> noelferreira, and....?
[01:22] <schwubuntu> i have ._.
[01:23] <sstull> Where is the default window manager for new users specified? It currently thinks it is /usr/bin/compiz, which is no longer installed...
[01:23] <MrSiebel> macogw I heard about some people having trouble with their wireless, anyone running feisty 7.4
[01:23] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, ok, make sure no drives are mounted (unmount all disks on the desktop), then go back into gparted
[01:23] <macogw> schwubuntu: you could try gnomebaker maybe
[01:23] <MrSiebel> Could that be it?
[01:23] <macogw> MrSiebel: 7.04 uses networkmanager instead of wicd or wifi radar
[01:23] <schwubuntu> hm
[01:23] <macogw> MrSiebel: people who have trouble have cards without native linux drivers or with drivers that dont work with NM
[01:23] <macogw> MrSiebel: Intel doesnt fall under either of those categories
[01:24] <schwubuntu> anyways. cu
[01:24] <Sunnyboi14> astro, everything is unmounted
[01:24] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, in gparted, select /dev/sdb from the drop down list in the top right
[01:24] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[01:24] <macogw> MrSiebel: i double checked NM's site and 2200 should work unencrypted, wep, wpa, and wpa2, so i dont know why you cant connect
[01:24] <MrSiebel> It was working fine not to long ago, then one day it just stopped
[01:24] <barbarella> macogw:cdrecord blank=fast dev=?????
[01:24] <MrSiebel> I don't know if it was from an update or what
[01:25] <macogw> MrSiebel: any chance you bumped the "wifi off" button on your laptop?
[01:25] <madman91> georgy28: it doesnt work
[01:25] <macogw> MrSiebel: i have a friend that uninstalled and reinstalled drivers on his windows after bumping that thing
[01:25] <fbuilesv> Hello, I installed Sun's JDK through Synaptic, any idea of where it might be?
[01:25] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, do you see 2 partitions?
[01:25] <MrSiebel> Haha pitxi, yeah I have done that before, thats not the case this time
[01:25] <georgy28> madman91, sorry, I'm out of knowledge
[01:25] <macogw> astro76: ok thanks
[01:25] <neverblue> fbuilesv, which java
[01:26] <fbuilesv> JDK6
[01:26] <giant> between Qcad, Dia Diagram Editor, and anyother program, which one do you feel is better for doing a blue print
[01:26] <nephish> hello all
[01:26] <macogw> fbuilesv: its not a gui program or anything
[01:26] <Sunnyboi14> no
[01:26] <madman91> georgy28: darn... thanks for all the help you've given though
[01:26] <Sunnyboi14> i just see one
[01:26] <neverblue> fbuilesv, no, type the command
[01:26] <giant> I just want to do the floor plan for a house
[01:26] <unagi> sometimes i hate dualbooting
[01:26] <KleRo1> hello, i have a problem, when I try to install poker-web an error pops out: ERROR 1045 (28000): access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:26] <KleRo1> how do I fix this?
[01:26] <fbuilesv> macogw: I know
[01:26] <georgy28> madman91, : np
[01:26] <KalleDK> Does any of you know a program / service thats using port 60726
[01:26] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, what is the device? sdb what?
[01:26] <fbuilesv> neverblue: that just gets me the executable
[01:26] <sstull> fbuilesv, type "dpkg -L packagename" and it will show you all the files and locations in packagename
[01:26] <fbuilesv> sstull: ty.
[01:26] <Ubuntuuser34> I'm trying to get compiz working, its installed and nvidia drivers enabled, but when I enable gl desktop , the desktop area turns black as well as firefox. Any ideas?
[01:26] <Sunnyboi14> sdb1
[01:27] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, that is all that's in the list?
[01:27] <neverblue> Ubuntuuser34, #ubuntu-effects
[01:27] <sstull> fbuilesv, if that doesn't work, do an updatedb, followed by a "locate whatever"
[01:27] <nephish> I cannot seem to find an available stick of RAM to buy that is the same manufacturer as the one i own now, if i get a stick by a different manufacturer, same speed, volts, etc.. i should be ok, right?
[01:27] <fbuilesv> sstull: That worked great!
[01:27] <Sunnyboi14> well the 2 other ones
[01:27] <Ubuntuuser34> neverblue, thanks I'll see if that is installed
[01:27] <Sunnyboi14> but they dont matter
[01:27] <sstull> fbuilesv, cool.
[01:27] <Sunnyboi14> do they?
[01:27] <neverblue> ok, but its really only a channel Ubuntuuser34
[01:27] <inAbsurdum> nephish, there should be no problem as long as the specs are the same.
[01:27] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, in the list, right click on sdb1 and sdb5 and click delete on each, then do the same for sdb3
[01:28] <giant> nephish, while having two identical sticks will ensure optimum preformance, you can get away with dissimaler sticks
[01:28] <Ubuntuuser34> gotcha thanks again
[01:28] <giant> nephish, just remember that all sticks run as fast as the slowest one
[01:28] <Sunnyboi14> we
[01:28] <barbarella> nephish:you think like...hee that worked, so i need the same!!!
[01:28] <nephish> giant, by dissimaler, do you mean different size, volts or something ? i want to get the same thing i have now... just another one.
[01:29] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[01:29] <Sunnyboi14> i did
[01:29] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, then click apply (the checkmark in the toolbar)
[01:29] <Milk_> Good evening!!  I'm having samba issues from the 7.04 live cd.  I'm connecting to another ubuntu install and trying to copy files from a mounted ntfs drive to the mounted smb share, but almost every file is giving me a permission denied, can't create regular file
[01:29] <Milk_> any ideas?
[01:29] <nephish> barbarella, exactly
[01:29] <nephish> sortof
[01:29] <junmin> hi ... which is gutsy channel? please
[01:29] <KleRo1> anyone knows how to fix this? i have a problem when I try to install poker-web an error pops out: ERROR 1045 (28000): access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[01:29] <giant> nephish, size, and speed.
[01:29] <soundray> junmin: #ubuntu+1
[01:29] <georgy28> madman91, : wait, try sudo modprobe snd-via82xx
[01:29] <junmin> soundray, thx
[01:30] <Sunnyboi14> ok
[01:30] <Sunnyboi14> i did
[01:30] <nephish> giant, oh, OK, yes i plan to get exactly what i have now, just a different ( available ) brand
[01:30] <LinuxRulesAll> i only have one question. has anyone here ever used retroshare on ubuntu? if so, did you have to do anything special to get it compiled right?
[01:30] <Sunnyboi14> now there is only one partition
[01:30] <barbarella> Milk_:it is root only...so you have to reset the copied files with chmod
[01:30] <madman91> georgy28: trying
[01:30] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, there should now be 0 partitions
[01:30] <giant> nephish, match size, and latency, make sure you get the same cas as you have now
[01:31] <soundray> KleRo1: I don't know anything about poker-web, but this looks like a mysql error message
[01:31] <Milk_> barbarella, the files arn't copying..  during the copy to the share, its giving file creation and directory creation errors
[01:31] <Sunnyboi14> oh
[01:31] <Sunnyboi14> yeah
[01:31] <Sunnyboi14> there are none
[01:31] <KleRo1> yes i think it is soundray, as the game needs mysql, but i dont know anything else
[01:31] <madman91> georgy28: no module like that
[01:31] <Sunnyboi14> one of them sayts unallocated
[01:31] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, right click and select New, then for filesystem, pick fat32, leave everything else the same
[01:31] <nephish> giant, size, latency and caz, wrote those down, thanks, off to newegg
[01:31] <soundray> KleRo1: check out the lamp page (factoid coming up) and see if the mysql instructions in there help
[01:32] <soundray> !lamp | KleRo1
[01:32] <ubotu> KleRo1: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:32] <vertgio> hello
[01:32] <nephish> giant, what is cas anyway ?
[01:32] <giant> nephish, latency and cas are the same thing
[01:32] <KleRo1> ok thanks soundray
[01:32] <vertgio> i i need some help with ubuntu
[01:32] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, then click Add there, and then click apply again
[01:32] <georgy28> madman91: strange, you sure
[01:32] <barbarella> Milk_:and you are using sudo?
[01:32] <giant> nephish, you'll see them listed like (2,2,2) or (3,2,2)
[01:32] <madman91> georgy28: yup
[01:32] <Milk_> barbarella, I've tried sudo, I've tried creating a new user
[01:32] <nephish> giant, thanks, man. Appreciate your advice.
[01:33] <georgy28> madman91, : ok, have to leave, maybe someone can help you
[01:33] <giant> nephish, np
[01:33] <madman91> thanks again georgy28 .. good bye
[01:33] <vertgio> how do you set ubuntu so that it automaticly logs in when you start up and how to disable passwords like when i try to access another hard drive?
[01:33] <Sunnyboi14> it finish
[01:33] <Sunnyboi14> ed
[01:33] <Sunnyboi14> so now is it fixed?
[01:34] <Sunnyboi14> there is one partition, with 250 gb?
[01:34] <Sunnyboi14> thats it?
[01:34] <barbarella> Milk_:so what i understand is that you want to copy files from your booted pc from the live cd to a server?
[01:34] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, that worked ok? you should now see one sdb1 partition that is fat32?
[01:34] <soundray> vertgio: that's two questions at once. Number one: System - Administration - Login Window - Security
[01:34] <Sunnyboi14> yup!
[01:34] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, that's it!
[01:34] <Sunnyboi14> Is it back to normal?
[01:34] <vertgio> ah thank you soundray
[01:34] <Sunnyboi14> Thanks So Much!!!
[01:34] <habo> guys i have a question .. why do my panels keep getting messed up .. what i mena is that when i restart or switch on my pc ... my panels have stuff arranged diffrently in them ... for eaxple the main one with the menu bars .... my clock and tabs go infront of the menu bars ( applications, places .. etc),
[01:34] <Sunnyboi14> I really appreciate it
[01:34] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, you're welcome :)
[01:35] <Sunnyboi14> sry 4 being a pain sometimes. lol
[01:35] <Milk_> barbarella, correct.  I've gone to the live cd. droped out of GDM (old laptop) and mounted a NTFS partition read only.  Then mounted a samba share and am trying to copy the files from the NTFS part to the Samba Share
[01:35] <lumgwada> Is there a way in X to switch on and off a screen? (I want to do this with a laptop from suspend that doesn't always have the second monitor attached....)
[01:35] <astro76> Sunnyboi14, lol
[01:35] <Sunnyboi14> goodbye!
[01:35] <vertgio> ok, what about disabling passwords?
[01:35] <barbarella> Milk_:did you use smbmount for that?
[01:36] <Milk_> barbarella, when trying to use smbmount it told me I had to us -t smbfs
[01:36] <habo> guys i have a question .. why do my panels keep getting messed up .. what i mena is that when i restart or switch on my pc ... my panels have stuff arranged diffrently in them ... for eaxple the main one with the menu bars .... my clock and tabs go infront of the menu bars ( applications, places .. etc), thank you
[01:36] <RadiantFire> lumgwada: xrandr command line program might work
[01:36] <Milk_> barbarella, within mount
[01:36] <soundray> vertgio: what are you trying to do? Please start at the beginning.
[01:36] <lumgwada> RadiantFire: cheers I'll havea look
[01:37] <barbarella> Milk_:like...smbmount //pc/to/copy/to /mount/point -o username......blabla
[01:37] <vertgio> I would like to disable passwords. for example, when I try to access my other hard drive, it asks me for my password. no problem, but i would like to diable passwords
[01:37] <gotank233> which is more commonly used ubuntu or kubuntu?
[01:37] <astro76> habo, I've found that, believe it or not, it helps to unlock all the items
[01:37] <habo> astro76 does it happen tou aswell??
[01:37] <habo> its anooying
[01:37] <habo> annoying
[01:37] <Milk_> barbarella, I did try that, but ended up doing   mount -t smbfs -U username /server/share /mountpoint
[01:37] <soundray> vertgio: you would like filesystems on this drive to be mounted automatically at boot?
[01:37] <astro76> habo, it used to, hasn't in awhile since everything is unlocked
[01:37] <RadiantFire> vertgio: you can configure these things by using the visudo command, checkt he man page for sudo, your looking for the nopass option
[01:38] <RadiantFire> vertgio: I think so anyway
[01:38] <Milk_> barbarella, I can see the share, and some directories and some files are copied
[01:38] <vertgio> no, i would just like to disable passwords in general
[01:38] <astro76> habo, by unlocked of course I mean uncheck Lock to Panel
[01:38] <vertgio> ok thanks
[01:38] <habo> .. ok ill unlok my panels now .. and i hope this stops
[01:38] <gordonjcp> hello
[01:38] <habo> unlock
[01:38] <habo> thx
[01:38] <bobgill> What's the cmd to make a tar of all files in a dir? Say I'm in ~/scripts at terminal, I want to make .tar.gz of all files
[01:39] <soundray> vertgio: be careful though, the default ubuntu setup may appear inconvenient, but they prevent lots of mishaps.
[01:39] <gordonjcp> bobgill: tra czvf filneame.tar.gz directory/
[01:39] <astro76> bobgill, tar czvf file.tar.gz directory/
[01:39] <barbarella> Milk_:try smbmount //ipaddress/share /mnt/xxx -o username=XXX than it will ask for a password
[01:39] <gordonjcp> bobgill: no, disregard
[01:39] <erisco> if I am getting "cannot execute binary file" and the file permissions are fine, what other problems may I be having?
[01:39] <vertgio> ok thanks guys!
[01:39] <vertgio> bye
[01:39] <RadiantFire> vertgio: thats really really unadvisable, but check the NOPASSWD flag in man sudoers
[01:39] <soundray> s/they prevent/it prevents/
[01:39] <barbarella> Milk_:sudo....etc.
[01:39] <Milk_> barbarella, let me try that
[01:39] <gordonjcp> tar czfv directory.tar.bz2 directory/
[01:40] <Riyo> If this is the Ubuntu support channgel, wheres the ubuntu just chat channel?
[01:40] <astro76> Riyo, #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:40] <gordonjcp> !offtopic | riyo
[01:40] <ubotu> riyo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:40] <Riyo> thanks astro76
[01:40] <bobgill> astro76: thanks
[01:41] <gordonjcp> bobgill: you can also do tar cjvf (note j not z) for bzip2, and get better compression
[01:41] <soybeef> Ubuntu could recognise my ethernet connection when i ran it as a livecd, but when i installed it to my hard drive the network connection fails. I installed ubuntu 6.06. Currently I am running Puppy linux and it can recognise my network via dhcp. When I tried running dhcp in ubuntu, and it didnt work. what should i do?
[01:41] <tim_> how to install flash-plugin
[01:42] <soundray> !flash | tim_
[01:42] <ubotu> tim_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:42] <tim_> thans
[01:43] <soundray> soybeef: compare the output from lspci in puppy and ubuntu. Look through dmesg output to see messages related to eth
[01:43] <Milk_> barbarella, it mounted, but still getting "cant create regular file .... permision denied" and "can't create directory .... permission denied"
[01:43] <habo> tim go to the synaptic package manager... and type this .. flashplugin-nonfree
[01:44] <Milk_> barbarella, it appears to be a problem past the first directory level
[01:44] <habo> tim :go to the synaptic package manager... and type this .. flashplugin-nonfree.. search for it .. and install the package
[01:44] <tim_> can login QQ ,how could i do
[01:44] <barbarella> Milk_:have you got a password set on the other pc?
[01:45] <bobgill> gordonjcp: thanks !
[01:45] <soundray> soybeef: if you can identify your Ethernet hardware, a web search will reveal the name of the kernel module that drives it. Then make sure it is loaded (lsmod) and load it if necessary (modprobe)
[01:45] <Milk_> barbarella, for the user I'm mounting as?  Yes
[01:45] <ztomic> soybeef: #dmesg | grep eth0
[01:45] <barbarella> Milk_:a window box?
[01:45] <Milk_> barbarella, its creating the first level directories and moving files in that first level, just nothing any deeper
[01:45] <Milk_> barbarella, both are ubuntu boxes
[01:46] <barbarella> Milk_:user issue
[01:46] <gordonjcp> bobgill: I may be unclear, as I am currently disentangling myself from approximately the LD50 of alcohol
[01:46] <habo> !amule
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <barbarella> Milk_:you have to set the right permissions
[01:46] <Milk_> barbarella, on the box I'm moving files to?
[01:47] <barbarella> yes
[01:47] <gordonjcp> bobgill: basically czvf is Create, Zip, Verbose, Filename=<filename for the tarball>
[01:47] <Milk_> barbarella, what permissions need to be set?
[01:47] <gordonjcp> bobgill: cjvf would be the same but bzip2 instead of zip
[01:47] <soundray> How do you configure Ubuntu to receive SMS messages via a mobile (cell-) phone? What phone hardware should I buy?
[01:47] <gordonjcp> bobgill: and to extract, it would be tar xzf or xjf depending
[01:47] <barbarella> what does whoami say from the box you are coping from
[01:48] <soybeef> ztomic, eth0: Davicom DM9102 at pci0000:02:09.0, 00:80:ad:77:12:a7, irq 11.
[01:48] <nickj6282> soundray why not just send an email instead of SMS, most providers allow for this now
[01:48] <soybeef> thanks soundray
[01:49] <bobgill> gordonjcp: whoa thanks so much that clarifies some of my confusion :)
[01:49] <gordonjcp> bobgill: seriously?
[01:49] <soundray> nickj6282: I want to be able to receive messages on a machine that isn't connected through anything other than a GSM phone.
[01:49] <Milk_> barbarella, I was doing it as sudo -i, so whoami showed root
[01:49] <gordonjcp> bobgill: oh good
[01:50] <Milk_> barbarella, I exited to the ubuntu user that the live cd uses and tried the sudo copy and now its giving a drive space error
[01:50] <gordonjcp> bobgill: spend a bit of time raedin g the man pages for tar
[01:51] <Ubuntuuser34> Anyone here get a black deskop when enableing open gl for beryl or compiz?
[01:51] <barbarella> Milk_:so is your root with password allowed to write to the other box, don't think so
[01:51] <Milk_> barbarella, sorry, take that back, I was pointing to the wrong dir..  still error
[01:51] <Milk_> barbarella, so now Im copying as ubuntu and still permission denied
[01:52] <krammer> what does tty mean in unix?
[01:52] <noelferreira> i can't connect to a dynds account outside my lan using xvncviewer. any help?
[01:52] <astro76> krammer, terminal
[01:53] <soundray> noelferreira: can you ping the vnc server machine?
[01:53] <krammer> what is the full form of tty please
[01:53] <barbarella> Milk_:create an other user, create a share with the right permissions for a user.
[01:53] <jared> I downloaded Second Life and tried to run it, the cursor disspears when i'm not moving it (when the cursor is inside the second life window) and if I hover oover buttons it's kinda halfway highlights them
[01:53] <Milk_> barbarella, how can I change user on the live cd box?
[01:53] <kanedaddy> interest
[01:53] <soundray> krammer: it originates in the term "teletype", but it has grown into a proper word
[01:54] <krammer> thanks you
[01:54] <SubFreeze> How can I change the X11 app that loads? I want to start KDE or Gnome, not the default desktop w/ubuntu
[01:54] <barbarella> Milk_:what does adduser xxx say
[01:55] <Milk_> barbarella, it says I've added the user
[01:55] <soundray> SubFreeze: the default ubuntu desktop is gnome. You can select a KDE session at the login screen
[01:55] <Milk_> barbarella, same as the one on the box I'm copying to
[01:55] <amelia> ello when I run alsamixer it comes up with this : alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[01:55] <SubFreeze> will try
[01:55] <kitche> SubFreeze: of course to pick kde you must install it
[01:56] <soundray> SubFreeze: ...if you have installed KDE, that is.
[01:56] <barbarella> Milk_:users must have the same credentials
[01:57] <Milk_> barbarella, they do
[01:57] <speaker219> kde is grreat
[01:57] <Milk_> barbarella, how do I switch users on the live cd?
[01:57] <barbarella> Milk_:when you copy from box a to b
[01:58] <barbarella> Milk_:try this sudo adduser whateveryoulike
[01:58] <xgamma> hi.  i was wondering if there's a release of compiz-fusion for x64
[01:58] <newpers> is there a package that contains the proggy tiny font?
[01:58] <xgamma> can't seem to find anything on synaptic
[01:58] <barbarella> Milk_:so adduser name
[01:58] <astro76> xgamma, it will be in gutsy, feisty has compiz
[01:58] <xgamma> is compiz stable?
[01:59] <barbarella> Milk_:like adduser milk
[01:59] <pescador> hi fiends
[01:59] <astro76> xgamma, stable like jello
[01:59] <Milk_> barbarella, I've already done adduser amshake
[01:59] <HHP2K> Hey guys, is there a specific room for help on Dualhead setups in ubuntu?
[01:59] <astro76> !dualhead
[01:59] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:59] <ubot3> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:59] <astro76> oh no 2 bots
[01:59] <barbarella> Milk_:ok amshake it is and you have set a password.
[02:00] <Milk_> barbarella, yes
[02:00] <xgamma> astro76: not very reassuring, hehe.  is there something else similar to AWN that would provide me with a dock?  That's really all I'm looking for
[02:00] <HHP2K> Yes, I've read all that.. I need specific help on it.
[02:00] <anzan> !botsnack
[02:00] <ubot3> Yum!
[02:00] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:00] <barbarella> Milk_:do the same with the box you like to copy your files to.
[02:00] <astro76> xgamma, I haven't messed around with any 3d desktop stuff personally, but compiz in feisty is considered a technology preview hence not being enabled by default
[02:00] <Milk_> barbarella, that user already exists on that box
[02:00] <Milk_> barbarella, so, same user... both boxes
[02:01] <Lars_G> jrib: Ok. help please :'(
[02:01] <ztomic> anyone know how to capture video with the Xorg module? I don't have a /dev/video but I can watch TV with motv and Xawtv.
[02:01] <barbarella> Milk_:did you run smbpasswd -a amshake on that computer?
[02:01] <HHP2K> !Xinerama
[02:01] <ubot3> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:01] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:01] <noelferreira> it is necessary port fowarding to use vncviwer?
[02:01] <xgamma> so there's really no other dock software out there?
[02:01] <Lars_G> my lack of python-cairo files is breaking my cedega now and I can't unwind my long day with WoW
[02:01] <Dj-Serpen> Hi
[02:01] <ztomic> Radeon 7000.... OUCH!
[02:01] <Milk_> barbarella, yep
[02:02] <Dj-Serpen> Hi
[02:02] <soundray> noelferreira: if the server is behind a router, then yes
[02:02] <Milk_> barbarella, just did it again
[02:02] <noelferreira> soundray: what port?
[02:02] <barbarella> Milk_:did you you add groups on that computer (for shares)
[02:02] <Julio_Gonzalez> Anyone know what's up with Ubuntu Studio?
[02:02] <jrib> Lars_G: hi, join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[02:02] <Dj-Serpen> Can anyone help me plz ? I ask my question :)
[02:02] <soundray> noelferreira: screen number 0 is on 5800, 1 on 5801 etc.
[02:03] <gordonjcp> !ask | Dj-Serpen
[02:03] <ubot3> Dj-Serpen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:03] <ubotu> Dj-Serpen: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:03] <Dj-Serpen> I have Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06 LTS
[02:03] <Dj-Serpen> XD
[02:03] <Dj-Serpen> and when i play a sound/song whatever i cant
[02:03] <Milk_> barbarella, how?
[02:03] <soundray> !enter | Dj-Serpen
[02:03] <ubot3> Dj-Serpen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:03] <ubotu> Dj-Serpen: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:04] <skkane> what's the channel for Gutsy/tribe ?
[02:04] <anzan> !botsnack
[02:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:04] <Dj-Serpen> ......
[02:04] <gordonjcp> !mp3 | Dj-Serpen
[02:04] <ubotu> Dj-Serpen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:04] <soundray> skkane: #ubuntu+1
[02:04] <Lars_G> Could we do without the ubotu twin?
[02:04] <skkane> tkz
[02:04] <Dj-Serpen> isn't just with mp3
[02:04] <astro76> Lars_G, ops have been notified
[02:04] <HHP2K> Lars_G: Thinkin the same thing
[02:04] <Dj-Serpen> wmv, wav, mid, ....
[02:04] <soundray> !sound | Dj-Serpen
[02:04] <ubotu> Dj-Serpen: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:05] <Dj-Serpen> kkkk
[02:05] <gordonjcp> Dj-Serpen: I'd answer your question directly but I'm trying to metabolise ten pints of beer and a few whiskys right now
[02:05] <Dj-Serpen> XD
[02:05] <barbarella> Milk_:chown -r root:amshake /where/the/share/is
[02:05] <DIL> just ten
[02:05] <HHP2K> Okay, so does anyone have enough experience with DualHead on ATI cards to offer me specific help?
[02:05] <barbarella> Milk_:chown -R
[02:05] <gordonjcp> the bot is very handy for this ;-)
[02:05] <Dj-Serpen> My soundcard is not in the listsudo asoundconf list
[02:05] <noelferreira> soundray: tcp?
[02:05] <saruman> has anyone else had problems with codeforge crashing under ubuntu ?
[02:05] <gordonjcp> Dj-Serpen: what soundcard do you have?
[02:05] <soundray> noelferreira: yes
[02:06] <Dj-Serpen> a Soundblaster o dont know which model
[02:06] <Dj-Serpen> lol
[02:06] <HHP2K> Dj-Serpen: Keep your responses on one line please.
[02:06] <Milk_> barbarella, on the box that I'm moving the files to?
[02:06] <soundray> gordonjcp: the best way to metabolize that amount is via the reverse route...
[02:06] <gordonjcp> soundray: meh
[02:06] <gordonjcp> think I'll just have a cup of tea and then head to bed
[02:07] <barbarella> Milk_:and chmod -R 775 /dir/share, just to get is easy
[02:07] <ztomic> night, gordonjcp
[02:07] <barbarella> Milk_:Yes the computer where you wnat to move the files to
[02:07] <Milk_> ok
[02:07] <Milk_> barbarella, those are done
[02:07] <barbarella> Milk_:oeps want i mean
[02:08] <soundray> How do you configure Ubuntu to receive SMS messages via a mobile (cell-) phone? What phone hardware should I buy?
[02:08] <ztomic> has anyone got capture to work with xorg module for radeon 7000? Waste of time?
[02:09] <HHP2K> Guys, how do you turn off left/joined notifications in gaim?
[02:09] <HHP2K> Honestly, this is annoying.
[02:09] <jared> I downloaded Second Life and tried to run it, the cursor disspears when i'm not moving it (when the cursor is inside the second life window) and if I hover oover buttons it's kinda halfway highlights them
[02:10] <P_Kable> Anybody HELP please ... I have an external Sony DVD burner that does not mount automatically. I have to reboot the machine everytime I plug it in. It used to work well a few weeks ago ...
[02:10] <soundray> P_Kable: first check is to run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' in a terminal, then plug it in. See if any errors are logged.
[02:10] <ztomic> another rare quiet moment in #ubuntu
[02:11] <ztomic> P_Kable: ouch! SONY!
[02:11] <voidmage> s/,/\n/g isn't working in vim
[02:11] <ztomic> sorry
[02:11] <voidmage> what do i need to do to replace a character with \n?
[02:12] <Milk_> barbarella, still not working
[02:12] <soundray> voidmage: cat file.txt | tr "," "\n" >newfile.txt
[02:12] <P_Kable> It used to work. And it does mount after reboot ...
[02:13] <soundray> P_Kable: did you read me?
[02:13] <HHP2K> Okay, next question: If I name a video card in xorg.conf something other than what its actual name is, does that matter?
[02:13] <mcknin> If I have IPTables installed... my rules are in /etc/iptables.up.rules ... How do I refresh? IE, how do I make the rules start working?
[02:13] <soundray> HHP2K: no
[02:13] <voidmage> thanks
[02:13] <voidmage> not sure why vim won't do that
[02:13] <HHP2K> soundray: Okay, that's one possibility eliminated.
[02:13] <kitche> mcknin: restart iptables
[02:13] <sstull> voidmage: sometimes s/,/ctrl-v ctrl-m/g works. (where ctrl-v is typed, followed by ctrl-m, no space in between) (in vim)
[02:14] <voidmage> yeah that works too
[02:14] <voidmage> hrm
[02:14] <voidmage> weird that it doesn't interpret \n right though
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> P_Kable: What have you installed this last week or so?  DId you run any scripts to install anything.. done any manual editing of fstab ?
[02:14] <P_Kable> http://pastebin.ca/656319  soundray
[02:14] <sstull> voidmage: it doesn't interpret those for whatever reason. new line is a special character for it, I guess.
[02:14] <darwin81> Anyone know what's up with Ubuntu Studio?
[02:14] <barbarella> Milk_:what does you log files say?
[02:15] <jared> I downloaded Second Life and tried to run it, the cursor disspears when i'm not moving it (when the cursor is inside the second life window) and if I hover oover buttons it's kinda halfway highlights them
[02:15] <Karmak> Why is my kubuntu booting in to virtual console? It says kinit: trying to resume /dev/disk/by-uuid/c(lot's of numbers) | kinit: No resume, doing normal boot
[02:15] <corrado> yo !
[02:15] <barbarella> voidmage: sed 's/, ???
[02:15] <kitche> darwin81: what about ubuntu studio?
[02:15] <soundray> P_Kable: looks okay to me. What's the problem at this point?
[02:15] <corrado> hi!
[02:15] <kitche> darwin81: but it's offtopic for this channel actually
[02:16] <darwin81> kitche: Their website is down
[02:16] <P_Kable> Like I told you the device does not mount soundray I have to reboot the machine
[02:16] <barbarella> voidmage: you can always use an ftp server to copy the files to
[02:16] <barbarella> voidmage: sory not for you
[02:16] <soundray> P_Kable: explain "does not mount". Is there a disk in the drive?
[02:17] <Tru7h> There's two partitions on my drive called Dell Utility and Dell Restore. Can I delete one of them to make room for an Ubuntu installation?
[02:17] <P_Kable> I usually have an icon on the desktop with the dvd content soundray I have to reboot to have this icon
[02:17] <Tru7h> Or would that mess something up?
[02:17] <P_Kable> yes a blank DVD
[02:17] <barbarella> Milk_: you can always use an ftp server to copy the files to
[02:17] <bruenig> Tru7h, you can delete both if you want
[02:17] <Milk_> [2007/08/13 19:08:56, 0]  printing/pcap.c:pcap_cache_reload(159)
[02:17] <Milk_>   Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!
[02:17] <Milk_> [2007/08/13 19:13:49, 1]  smbd/service.c:close_cnum(1150)
[02:17] <Milk_>   192.168.2.133 (192.168.2.133) closed connection to service backup
[02:17] <P_Kable> soundray, in order to have to blank dvd icon on the desktop I have to reboot.
[02:17] <Tru7h> Bruenig: And it wouldn't mess up anything with Windows? I plan on keeping it.
[02:17] <barbarella> Milk_: oeps
[02:17] <bruenig> Tru7h, just takes out the restore partition
[02:18] <soundray> P_Kable: look at the settings under System-Preferences-Removable Drives
[02:18] <Tru7h> Okay. Thanks.
[02:18] <eboyjr> I am sharing /var/www/ as www in VirtualBox on Windows XP, and how do I access /var/www/ from Windows? Guest addidtions are installed.
[02:19] <kasuko> can anyone help me with bash programming
[02:19] <Milk_> barbarella, oeps?
[02:19] <tim_> I had setup mplayer ,but still can't open the real file
[02:19] <soundray> kasuko: ask, then we'll see if someone can help
[02:19] <P_Kable> soundray, everything is OK I did not touch anything here, and it works with my 16gb usb stick
[02:20] <barbarella> Milk_:i think the samba server isn't setup right on your ubuntu "server"
[02:20] <soundray> P_Kable: does the icon appear if you open, then close the tray?
[02:20] <P_Kable> no soundray
[02:20] <P_Kable> that is my actual problem
[02:20] <Milk_> yea, I think your right
[02:20] <Milk_> barbarella, I'm trying sftp now, seems to be working
[02:21] <soundray> P_Kable: have you tried with a data CD instead of a blank? Any messages in /var/log/syslog after the tray closes?
[02:21] <kasuko> oh ok, I have a file of pictures with filenames DSC#####.JPG and I want to rename them Picnic###.JPG. But I dont want the numbers to carry over, I want Picnic001.JPG to Picnic168.JPG
[02:21] <kitche> darwin81: it sems like dreamhost is having trouble
[02:21] <P_Kable> yes I have tried a lot of cd's and dvd's
[02:21] <P_Kable> same result I have to reboot to have it mounted
[02:21] <soundray> P_Kable: syslog?
[02:22] <soundray> kasuko: DSC00001.JPG to Picnic168.JPG, DSC00002 to Picnic169.JPG and so on?
[02:22] <P_Kable> soundray, nothing in syslog
[02:23] <kasuko> no DSC04647 to Picnic001
[02:23] <barbarella> Milk_:i could help you but my girl said that it is closing time....really have to listen to her...and she is right, cause i have to getup early
[02:24] <soundray> P_Kable: does anything happen when you do 'sudo eject /dev/sr0' while  the tray is closed?
[02:24] <soundray> kasuko: DSCs are sequentially numbered?
[02:24] <kasuko> yes
[02:24] <steven3292> is it possible to install ubuntu on another laptop from this one?
[02:25] <P_Kable> soundray, it ejects the tray
[02:27] <kitche> Pelo: it's very easy :)
[02:27] <mgardner> hello all, I just setup the new compiz-fusion and man is it nice.  Fast and slick as heck but I'm having a settings issue that I think stems from compiz already being setup in Feisty.  I cannot get the setting to toggle fullscreen to work.  I'm trying to run WoW but I'm not having much luck with it in fullscreen.  I figured I would window then use the fullscreen command.  Anyone have suggestions?
[02:27] <kasuko> soundray, they are sequentially numbered from DSC04647 to DSC04814 but I dont care in what order they are renamed as long as I have Picnic001 to Picnic168
[02:27] <nameless> hi
[02:27] <Pelo> kitche,  think you can do it ?
[02:27] <ztomic> P_Kable: for kicks, slide that CD in again and try # eject
[02:27] <bruenig> kasuko, I have a command, the only problem is getting it to say 001 instead of just 1
[02:27] <kitche> Pelo: I have but lately I been making fbsd packages
[02:27] <mightymball> WAS UP
[02:27] <P_Kable> ztomic, can you be a little more clear please
[02:28] <prophet> Hey! :D
[02:28] <Pelo> kitche, fbsd ?
[02:28] <soundray> kasuko: 'j=4646 ; for i in $(seq -w 1 100) ; do j=$[$j+1]  ; cp DSC0$i.JPG Picnic$i.JPG ; done' (Replace 100 with the actual number of images that you have. I put cp instead of mv in case it does something unexpected - make sure you have enough diskspace)
[02:28] <soundray> kasuko: sorry, mistake
[02:28] <kitche> Pelo: FreeBSD but anyways it's starting to get busy in here once again
[02:28] <LiberCogito> mgardner: Is Compiz currently the window manager?
[02:28] <ztomic> P_Kable: step 1) put the CD back in step 2) type eject at a command prompt.
[02:28] <mightymball> hello guys
[02:28] <why_ati> Is it possible to run compiz-fusion with an ATI card?
[02:28] <soundray> kasuko: 'j=4646 ; for i in $(seq -w 1 100) ; do j=$[$j+1]  ; cp DSC0$i.JPG Picnic$j.JPG ; done'
[02:28] <mightymball> i am trying to get linux
[02:29] <prophet> I was helping my friend get up on ubuntu and I thought I was being helpful by giving him my repository file. Unfortunately it looks like giving him my repo file has totally hosed his system. Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can go to start from scratch and fix the problems I've caused him?
[02:29] <mightymball> any one wanna chat
[02:29] <ztomic> easy as 1,2... doh!
[02:29] <P_Kable> The fact is that I have to reboot to be able to access my external dvd burner ... It used to work a few weeks ago
[02:29] <soundray> kasuko: sorry, still wrong. I'm getting too tired
[02:29] <LiberCogito> mgardner: WoW Will not run in full screen with Compiz/ Beyl on.  Use Gnome when you're playing wow.
[02:29] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Yes, but it isn't going to be very efficient or stable
[02:29] <kefka> !offtopic | mightymball
[02:29] <ubotu> mightymball: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:29] <soundray> kasuko: 'j=4646 ; for i in $(seq -w 1 100) ; do j=$[$j+1]  ; cp DSC0$j.JPG Picnic$i.JPG ; done'
[02:29] <kasuko> no problem dont rush yourself
[02:29] <mightymball> WTF
[02:29] <Pelo> mightymball,  this is a support channel not a chat one,  what do you mean you arwe trying to get linux ?
[02:29] <mightymball> someone told me to go here
[02:29] <P_Kable> ztomic, the same it ejects ...
[02:29] <mightymball> its not my fault
[02:29] <soundray> kasuko: does that make sense?
[02:29] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Unless your card is supported by the open source drivers that is
[02:29] <astro76> mightymball, no worries, we're just letting you know
[02:29] <mightymball> SRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYY
[02:29] <Pelo> mightymball, ok y ou want to install ubuntu-linux on your compter ?
[02:29] <why_ati> Jordan_U, I used a guide on the ubuntu forums to set it up but absolutely nothing has happened
[02:30] <mightymball> yeah
[02:30] <mightymball> i have windows xp 2
[02:30] <kefka> mightymball: You can join #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic to chat...
[02:30] <kasuko> not at all, I'm a programmer but looking at bash script scares me
[02:30] <Iuri_RJ_BR> people, I have a usb HP scanner scanjet 2400 and cannot find a driver for linux, only windows... anyone knows a generic driver that might work for me?
[02:30] <Pelo> mightymball, you'll need the install cd,  it's it free, you just dl it from the site,  www.ubuntu.org
[02:30] <mightymball> i will join defoucus
[02:30] <why_ati> Jordan_U,  My card is supported and I am using the ATI accelerated graphics driver
[02:30] <Jordan_U> why_ati, What guide? And is your card supported by the open source driver ?
[02:30] <P_Kable> Nobody here knows why it does not mount at hot-plug ???
[02:30] <Pelo> mightymball,  youa rwe in the right pllace don'T go anywhere
[02:30] <asnf> hi
[02:31] <soundray> kasuko: break it down a bit: 'seq 1 100' produces sequential numbers.
[02:31] <Mr-Snick> mightyball: also when goin to the website to download. If you have a WIreless connection choose the LiveCD. if not don't worry about which cd you get
[02:31] <mightymball> ok go mthere and install it
[02:31] <why_ati> Jordan_U,  Are you allowed to post URL's in here?
[02:31] <Pelo> WILL PPL PLEASE STOP TO TRY AND SEND  mightymball  AWAY HE IS IN THE CORRECT CHANNEL
[02:31] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Yes
[02:31] <why_ati> Jordan_U, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[02:31] <WindsofTime> Pelo why dont you kick em?
[02:31] <soundray> kasuko: j=10 ; echo $j ; j=$[$j+1]  ; echo $j
[02:31] <mightymball> FUCKI U GUYS
[02:31] <prophet> !sources.list
[02:31] <mightymball> STFU
[02:31] <Mr-Snick> wat the hell ..
[02:31] <mightymball> LET ME TLAK TO PELO
[02:31] <Mr-Snick> we just told u what to do
[02:31] <Pelo> mightymball,  you download the iso file , burn him to a cd ( it's an image) then you use the cd to install it,  you can even try it out frist from the cd
[02:31] <soundray> kasuko: for i in 2 4 6 ; do echo $i ; done
[02:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:32] <astro76> !language | mightymball
[02:32] <ubotu> mightymball: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:32] <Pelo> mightymball, pleas don'T use capitals,  I was yelling at the channel
[02:32] <mightymball> SRRRRYY
[02:32] <mightymball> TY FOR WARNING ME
[02:32] <WindsofTime> "Dont use captials"
[02:32] <mightymball> ok
[02:32] <Pelo> mightymball,  capslocks off please
[02:32] <Pelo> thanks
[02:32] <MrAndrews> Is anybody running ubuntu 7.4 running having trouble with their wireless?
[02:32] <mightymball> SRRRY
[02:32] <mightymball> wtf
[02:32] <asnf> my friends I want to ask question (sorry my english) I have a laptop. I use gnome but I don't want to install kde-core. So I Don't work infrared. What I do
[02:32] <Pelo> so mightymball    www.ubuntu.org , go and dl
[02:33] <mightymball> where do i install the cd from
[02:33] <astro76> !install | mightymball
[02:33] <ubotu> mightymball: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:33] <WindsofTime> You download the ISO and possibly burn the iso image to the CD
[02:33] <why_ati> Jordan_U, Everything seems to have installed correctly but I don't see any desktop animations or the cube effect
[02:33] <WindsofTime> then you are almost ready to begin
[02:33] <soundray> !scanner | Iuri_RJ_BR
[02:33] <ubotu> Iuri_RJ_BR: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[02:33] <LiberCogito> MrAndrews: LOL.  Yes, many people.
[02:33] <southafrikanse> hello. I was using Kubuntu and installed the Gnome packages to get back Ubuntu. How can I remove now the kde packages?
[02:33] <kasuko> soundray, thanks that worked. and I sorta get it
[02:33] <MrAndrews> Anybody having trouble with their wireless on 7.4?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> why_ati, That specific guide will not work with ATI's proprietary drivers
[02:33] <kasuko> problem is I need to get 20 CDs done by tonight
[02:33] <mightymball> where so i get the iso file at
[02:34] <Pelo> mightymball,  www.ubuntu.org
[02:34] <ztomic> P_Kable: I won't forgive myself for helping you with a Sony POS, but: insert the disk and wait a second or two. then type 'dmesg | tail'
[02:34] <Nattgew> !compiz > Nattgew
[02:34] <chez_head> I need help with crontab
[02:34] <mightymball> ok i am theere
[02:34] <pescador> ciao a tutti
[02:34] <MrAndrews> LiberCogito: I can connect to other people's wireless but not my own?
[02:34] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Do you get 3D acceleration with the open source drivers?
[02:34] <Pelo> mightymball,  there is a link for get ubuntu  I beleive
[02:34] <why_ati> Jordan_U, I didn't realize that... Do you know of a way to get it working?
[02:34] <soundray> kasuko: dang, what time is it?
[02:34] <prophet> Is there a simple and easy way to drop myself down to a vanilla unmodified repository file? I think I've hosed my sources.list
[02:34] <MrAndrews> It seemed to have started after a dist-upgrade
[02:34] <yurimxpxman_> what program would you guys recommend for mirroring local files from one computer to the next? I want the changes on each side reflected upon the other.
[02:34] <why_ati> Jordan_U, How can I check for 3D acceleration
[02:34] <steven2342> hey... is it possible to install ubuntu on another laptop from this one?
[02:34] <mightymball> i dont see it\
[02:35] <astro76> mightymball, www.ubuntu.com
[02:35] <kasuko> 8:35
[02:35] <astro76> not .org
[02:35] <mightymball> i aqm there
[02:35] <Pelo> mightymball,  holw on let me have a look
[02:35] <chez_head> I need help with cron, anyone??
[02:35] <Jordan_U> why_ati, in a terminal run "glxinfo | grep direct" if it says true then you have 3D acceleration
[02:35] <astro76> !cron
[02:35] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:35] <kitche> chez_head: well if you don't say what your problem is no one will help :)
[02:35] <chez_head> it won't start
[02:36] <chez_head> Starting periodic command scheduler: crond failed!
[02:36] <why_ati> Jordan_U, direct rendering: Yes
[02:36] <Pelo> mightymball, my mistake,  www.ubuntu.com
[02:36] <Jordan_U> why_ati, If you do get 3D acceleration with the open source drivers then all you need to do is switch to them and compiz-fusion should work
[02:36] <soundray> !irda | asnf
[02:36] <ubotu> asnf: Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[02:36] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Again, is that with the open source drivers or with the proprietary driver ( fglrx ) ?
[02:36] <mightymball> press dowload know
[02:36] <asnf> thanx ubotu
[02:37] <Pelo> mightymball,  unless you want to download later
[02:37] <ztomic> thank god! I don't have to help with the Sony issue. Had he done what I said, he would have seen "..disk not..."
[02:37] <mightymball> ok
[02:37] <why_ati> Jordan_U, I used the Restricted Drivers Manager gui tool to switch to the driver
[02:37] <why_ati> Jordan_U, fglrx is what I am using
[02:37] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Use it to switch back then see if you still get 3D acceleration
[02:37] <soundray> yurimxpxman_: unison perhaps
[02:37] <kasuko> soundray thanks but I need to get burning now
[02:38] <soundray> kasuko: good luck
[02:38] <darktemplar20> hey. i've got a problem installing ubuntu on my HP laptop. could anybody give me some help?
[02:38] <mightymball> which one to d/l
[02:38] <why_ati> Jordan_U, I could use it to uncheck the driver and then I would be using whatever ubuntu was using by default when I installed
[02:38] <Pelo> darkmatter,  what is the problem ?
[02:38] <alexnormandia> hi
[02:38] <southafrikanse> hello. I was using Kubuntu and installed the Gnome packages to get back Ubuntu. How can I remove now the kde packages?
[02:38] <Pelo> mightymball,  go for the desktop 7.04 , standard if you are on a pc
[02:38] <soundray> darktemplar20: ask the actual question, then we'll see if anyone can help
[02:38] <darktemplar20> well, i go to install it (the x64 version), and i get a no buffer space message
[02:38] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Yes, Ubuntu uses the open source drivers by default
[02:38] <bruenig> dang he left as soon as I figured it out
[02:39] <Jordan_U> bruenig, I hate when that happens
[02:39] <why_ati> Jordan_U, So, you want me to disable the fglrx driver and reboot?
[02:39] <Pelo> darktemplar20,  I don't know that one, I usggest you do a search on the error msg in the forum   www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:39] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Yes, but you don't need to do a full reboot, you can just restart X
[02:39] <darktemplar20> thanks
[02:39] <why_ati> Jordan_U,  Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ?
[02:39] <soundray> southafrikanse: I would just leave them in place, unless you are short of disk space
[02:39] <bruenig> well I learned about printf so not all is lost
[02:39] <huligan> !linux
[02:39] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[02:40] <Jordan_U> why_ati, Yes
[02:40] <huligan> !ubuntu
[02:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <why_ati> Jordan_U,  OK brb
[02:40] <mgardner> anyone play around with the 0.5.2 release of compiz-fusion?  I'm trying to set a keybinding to fullscreen the active window and can't figure it out.
[02:40] <rjg_> how can I make crtl (just ctrl, not with any letters as well) take the fuction of the right mouse button, and fn the middle one?
[02:40] <mightymball> its gonna take 2 hours to d/l to the desktop
[02:40] <bruenig> mgardner, #ubuntu-effects
[02:40] <Pelo> mightymball, go for a walk
[02:40] <huligan> !ubuntu
[02:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <mightymball> lol i got a 260 playin it lol
[02:41] <rjg_> mgarderner: head over to #compiz-fusion :)
[02:41] <Pelo> mightymball, there will be ppl around when you are ready fo play around with it , no worry , this is a well attended channel
[02:41] <mightymball> pelo
[02:41] <Pelo> yes ?
[02:41] <mightymball> do u have a msn
[02:41] <ztomic> southafrikanse: good question. I haven't used KDE with ubuntu but I bet if you remove kdebase, it will remove all the crud. I could be wrong.
[02:41] <mightymball> yahoo
[02:41] <Pelo> mightymball,  no I don'T I think instant msging is the spawn of the devil
[02:42] <mightymball> lol WTF
[02:42] <windowsRulz> Hello people
[02:42] <mightymball> how will i keep in touch with u
[02:42] <mzanfardino> I've installed ubuntu feisty from the alternate CD and inadvertently selected the wrong time zone.  How do I correct the time zone?!?
[02:42] <southafrikanse> ztomic: how can I do that=
[02:42] <astro76> !wtf | mightymball
[02:42] <ubotu> mightymball: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:42] <soundray> mzanfardino: sudo tzconfig (in a terminal)
[02:42] <Pelo> mightymball,  no worry,  other ppl are helpfull you just got off on the wrong foot ,  next time just say hello and ask a specific question
[02:42] <mightymball> what wtf is cussin
[02:42] <ztomic> southafrikanse: synaptic
[02:42] <mightymball> oooook
[02:42] <mightymball> i did not know
[02:42] <rjg_> mightmball: The 'f' part is
[02:42] <ztomic> southafrikanse: please ask again... someone may know better.
[02:42] <windowsRulz> eboyjr: why is rule!
[02:42] <mightymball> lol yueah
[02:42] <why_ati> Jordan_U, Ok I am back and my resolution is back to 1024x768 instead of 1600x1200
[02:42] <astro76> mightymball, no worries, now you do ;)
[02:42] <rjg_> mightmtball: The 'f' part is
[02:42] <southafrikanse> soundtray: I didn't installed it from aptitude
[02:43] <mightymball> ty guys i love u guys
[02:43] <mzanfardino> soundray: brilliant!  Thank you!
[02:43] <Pelo> mightymball, this is a very busy channel we try to get rid of ppl who seem to only want to chitchat because it interfeers with the support
[02:43] <erikrocha> hi!
[02:43] <why_ati> Jordan_U, I ran glxinfo | grep direct again and got some errors
[02:43] <Jordan_U> why_ati, It is likely that you won't have 3D acceleration either then
[02:43] <erikrocha> good day!
[02:43] <Pelo> mightymball, be well
[02:43] <mightymball> yeah
[02:43] <soundray> southafrikanse: doesn't matter
[02:43] <mightymball> your leaving me
[02:43] <mightymball> will u be on tommororw
[02:43] <astro76> mightymball, you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[02:43] <Pelo> mightymball, possibly,  I never know
[02:44] <southafrikanse> soundray: It didn't work
[02:44] <why_ati> Jordan_U,  So how do I go about getting compiz-fusionto work at this point
[02:44] <Jordan_U> why_ati, You need the proprietary drivers then which means that you will also need to install XGL
[02:44] <bruenig> why_ati, #ubuntu-effects
[02:44] <soundray> southafrikanse: (I repeat) I would just leave them in place, unless you are short of disk space
[02:44] <DtG> whats the recommended amount of ram for a ubuntu install again?
[02:44] <southafrikanse> that is my problem... disk space
[02:44] <why_ati> Jordan_U, Ok. Do you know of a good guide for that?
[02:44] <southafrikanse> I have it all filled up
[02:44] <Pelo> DtG,  256 for the live cd I belive and 128 for the alternate
[02:45] <Jordan_U> why_ati, why_ati, I am looking for the official guide, like bruenig said we should take this to the #ubuntu-effects channel
[02:45] <soundray> southafrikanse: in terminal, do a 'sudo apt-get autoclean', then check your disk space again.
[02:45] <mightymball> peol
[02:45] <Pelo>  kgn
[02:45] <Pelo> mightymball, yes ?
[02:45] <mightymball> hi
[02:45] <mightymball> are u lea ving
[02:46] <|doorsman> where should i go if i want a complete list os linux commands ?
[02:46] <randoman> hey guys whats the best way to add a program needing root privilages to the bootup
[02:46] <randoman> ?
[02:46] <mightymball> u wont be3 back till tommotor
[02:46] <randoman> or to load when booting?
[02:46] <Pelo> mightymball,  no , I keep xchat open while I do other stuff on the computer,  I'll probably be arund for a few hours
[02:46] <ztomic> soundray: good one!
[02:46] <soundray> southafrikanse: if it's still tight, do a 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; ls -srS | tail -n 20'. That will give you a list of the 20 biggest packages installed. Remove any that you know you don't need.
[02:46] <mightymball> ok lol
[02:46] <mightymball> it dwont be odone for 2 hopurs lol
[02:46] <mightymball> so stay with me
[02:46] <mightymball> your kooler
[02:46] <why_ati> Jordan_U, the effects channel appears to be idle
[02:46] <WindsofTime> lol
[02:46] <mightymball> YUP
[02:47] <WindsofTime> Pelo how is that a bad thing?
[02:47] <compuniversal> any body know how can i install openoffice in Motorola A1200?
[02:47] <Pelo> WindsofTime, you'll find out eventualy
[02:47] <ztomic> gotta go folks... later!
[02:47] <Pelo> or not
[02:47] <icespider69199> |doorsman: check out http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml
[02:47] <WindsofTime> Pelo I got no friends V_V
[02:47] <WindsofTime> J/k I lie ;D
[02:47] <Pelo> mightymball, I'm usualy around about this time of day,  so If you need help and I am available I will be glad to help you within my habilities
[02:48] <yurimxpxman_> soundray: where does unison keep its settings?
[02:48] <yurimxpxman_> soundray: or profiles, rather
[02:48] <Pelo> WindsofTime, trust me , being helpfull can be a curse
[02:48] <soundray> southafrikanse: to remove a package, run 'sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename' (the packagename is everything up to the _ (underscore) in the package filename)
[02:48] <HHP2K> Hey guys, can someone look at this and answer this question: If the device is AGP, should this line be changed? http://pastebin.org/503
[02:48] <mightymball> u live near flordia
[02:49] <Pelo> mightymball,  no,
[02:49] <mightymball> so i can see what time to really get on
[02:49] <mightymball> u in the UK
[02:49] <|doorsman> thx icespider69199
[02:49] <mightymball> LOL
[02:49] <WindsofTime> aww Pelo
[02:49] <WindsofTime> your so nice
[02:49] <WindsofTime> :P
[02:49] <Pelo> mightymball, I'm in eastern canada
[02:49] <mightymball> ok thats kool
[02:49] <mightymball> its 8:49
[02:50] <soundray> yurimxpxman_: I don't really know. Check out /usr/share/doc/unison/README.Debian
[02:50] <icespider69199> |doorsman: you're welcome
[02:50] <Pelo> mightymball, same here
[02:50] <mightymball> how old is u
[02:50] <HHP2K> Pelo: Hello fellow canadian =D
[02:50] <kitche> man this is dead in here tonight lol
[02:50] <Pelo> mightymball, but wwe are getting offtopic now , like I said this isn't a chitchat channel and I don't generaly give personnal info in online
[02:50] <seiflotfy> hi guys
[02:51] <seiflotfy> i compiled gimmie from the svn and insalled it
[02:51] <seiflotfy> how do i uninstall it
[02:51] <seiflotfy> sudo make uninstall
[02:51] <seiflotfy> ?
[02:51] <kitche> seiflotfy: sudo make deinstall should do it
[02:51] <Pelo> kitche,  why do you think I am goofing off so much
[02:51] <erikrocha> I have problem with a link symbolic :(
[02:51] <Iuri_RJ_BR> unfortunately Xsane under gimp failed to recognise the scanner, I'll try kooka
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> seiflotfy: just CD to the source directory, and sudo make uninstall.
[02:52] <soundray> Pelo: born in 1968?
[02:52] <Pelo> erikrocha,  what is the problem
[02:52] <astro76> seiflotfy, you should consider using checkinstall next time
[02:52] <Pelo> soundray, yep
[02:52] <erikrocha> ok, see ...
[02:52] <soundray> Pelo: same here
[02:52] <seiflotfy> how do i use checkinstall
[02:52] <astro76> !checkinstall | seiflotfy
[02:52] <ubotu> seiflotfy: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[02:52] <kitche> seiflotfy: some make fiels use uninstall others use deinstall but they do the same thing
[02:53] <soundray> Pelo: I can't. I just happen to know my own age and my birth year
[02:53] <locolbd> hello, can anyone help me please
[02:53] <mightymball> lol peolo how old are u
[02:53] <seiflotfy> how do i use chekcinstall
[02:53] <seiflotfy> ?
[02:53] <Drk_Guy> Guys
[02:53] <Pelo> soundray, how do you find hold age creeping up on you ?
[02:53] <erikrocha> ln -s /home/erikrocha/myfolder /var/www
[02:53] <Pelo> locolbd,  what do you need to kon
[02:53] <kitche> seiflotfy: go to the link that ubotu gave you
[02:53] <Drk_Guy> How can i make a .sh script correctly?
[02:53] <locolbd> i want to let my task bar, to appear below my maximazed windows,
[02:53] <Pelo> erick otherway around,   source target
[02:53] <soundray> Pelo: it affects my ability to do subtractions in my head :)
[02:53] <faileas> Pelo: "39 year old man pretending to be a 13 years old nymphet" - your an FBI agent! ;p
[02:54] <mightymball> lol
[02:54] <mightymball> u reallly 39
[02:54] <kitche> Drk_Guy: umm have it do #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh
[02:54] <Drk_Guy> It is for a cool tgt
[02:54] <Drk_Guy> Thx kitche
[02:54] <Pelo> faileas,  make me an offer and I'll have a few freinds come over and discuss the details
[02:54] <Drk_Guy> That's the header
[02:54] <Pelo> mightymball,  yep
[02:54] <mzuverink> Is there an interface to get compiz to not have wobbly windows and such like beryl manager?
[02:54] <mightymball> peol do u know  mininvova.org
[02:54] <krillin> i have an amd64 box and i want to install 32-bit ubuntu. should i use the 64-bit CD or the 32-bit CD to install?
[02:54] <Drk_Guy> Then i just put in the orders, right?
[02:54] <Pelo> mightymball,  yes I do
[02:54] <faileas> krillin: 32bit
[02:54] <mightymball> do u have an account there
[02:54] <soundray> Pelo: yourself?
[02:55] <kitche> Drk_Guy: yeah now you need to put in the instructions if you used sh you would get some odd errors maybe since ubunt u has sh symlinked to dash by default
[02:55] <Drk_Guy> I'm asking this because i want to make a script that installs the Z605 driver automatcially
[02:55] <mzuverink> mightymball, their down arent they?
[02:55] <faileas> mininova dosen't have accounts IIRC
[02:55] <Pelo> mightymball, I'm not registered,  I'm just a drop in user
[02:55] <mightymball> no
[02:55] <mightymball> lol
[02:55] <faileas> *need
[02:55] <erikrocha> if the symbolic connection is created the problem it is when I want to accede from the navigator (firefox)
[02:55] <krillin> faileas: all right, off i go :) i just bought a dell vista box (yes, i know boo!) and i'm going to be buying the 1420N soon (the ubuntu laptop, yay!)
[02:55] <mightymball> i got suspended for 3 years
[02:55] <mightymball> 3 YEARS
[02:55] <Drk_Guy> No sh kitche
[02:55] <Pelo> mightymball,  what did you do ?
[02:55] <mightymball> lol ok
[02:55] <mightymball> i was jokin
[02:56] <nameless> anyone knows a good program to rip a music cd ?
[02:56] <kitche> !offtopic | mightymball
[02:56] <ubotu> mightymball: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:56] <mightymball> i made a joke about spammin in a grongraulation
[02:56] <seiflotfy> ok
[02:56] <faileas> krillin: ;) i'm mostly a windows user, even have a vista install on my triboot.
[02:56] <erikrocha> it does not show the folder to me that would have to do it
[02:56] <soundray> mightymball: you must have said wt* or something evil like that
[02:56] <mightymball> peol lol
[02:56] <seiflotfy> i uninstalled it using make uninstall in the source directory
[02:56] <mightymball> where cdna i tell u this story
[02:56] <Pelo> erikrocha,  it maked it easier if you use the nick ofthe person you are talking to
[02:56] <Graciasdenada> hi all.  i could really use some help getting the madwifi-ng drivers installed.  i've followed the ubuntuforum how-tos, and kismet does indeed work, but airodump gives me an 'Error setting monitor mode' message.  is there a way to tell if the madwifi-ng drivers are actually installed?
[02:56] <locolbd> Pelo
[02:56] <soundray> nameless: command line: abcde   gtk: grip
[02:56] <mightymball> ok give me a second guys
[02:56] <Pelo> mightymball, tsk tsk tsk
[02:56] <Pelo> locolbd,  ?
[02:56] <locolbd> Pelo: i want to let my task bar, to appear below my maximazed windows,
[02:56] <seiflotfy> now when i type gimmie it tell me        bash: /usr/local/bin/gimmie: No such file or directory
[02:56] <mightymball> peol what other chat u ij
[02:56] <seiflotfy> but gimmie isnt installed anymore
[02:57] <seiflotfy> please help
[02:57] <DrHalan> hey when i login my login screen is bigger than the screen resolution and i have to move around iwht the cursor what is wrong?
[02:57] <locolbd> Pelo: plz help
[02:57] <Pelo> locolbd,  what ? you mean you want it to disapear being ?
[02:57] <Pelo> behind the window ?
[02:57] <quirt33> can anyone tell me how to use my ctrl key as the right click button?
[02:57] <mightymball> oo i said far beyond WT* lol
[02:57] <kitche> seiflotfy: ./configure && make && checkinstall should do it but I don't use checkisntall so I could be wrong sicne I find it to have many errors sometimes
[02:57] <mightymball> he wsas bein ga*
[02:58] <sstull> DrHalan, your virtual desktop is set larger than your screen resolution.
[02:58] <Pelo> locolbd,  try this, find a free space on the pannel, close apps if you need to ,  right click on it and select properties those are the options avaialable
[02:58] <locolbd> Pelo: u know like microsoft windows, you have to option to let you task bar appear under maximized windows
[02:58] <locolbd> Pelo: i want to do that for ubuntu
[02:58] <Pelo> mightymball, it's getting busier we need to get back on topic now
[02:58] <mightymball> eeerrrrrr
[02:58] <mightymball> i wnated to tell u the story
[02:58] <kitche> locolbd: you want to have the panel stay on top it's in the options of the panel
[02:58] <Drk_Guy> kitche: But, how can i call a file?
[02:59] <mightymball> ok i got 1:P57 left
[02:59] <mightymball> one hourand 57 minutews
[02:59] <Drk_Guy> I mean, how can i put a file in the ops
[02:59] <kitche> Drk_Guy: another executable file?
[02:59] <Pelo> locolbd, I am not sure what you mean by under ?  maximised windows should not be hiding the pannels in the default settnigs
[02:59] <seiflotfy> guys
[02:59] <Drk_Guy> I.E. tar -xvzf CJLZ600LE-CUPS-1.0-1.TAR.gz
[02:59] <Pelo> mightymball,  I understanb but this is a support channel,  we do support first
[02:59] <kitche> Drk_Guy: well what are you trying to do and I m sure I can write the code segment for it
[02:59] <Drk_Guy> Would it fit?
[02:59] <mightymball> i know
[02:59] <mightymball> i cna wait lol
[02:59] <mightymball> these people need ur help
[03:00] <kitche> Drk_Guy: yes since it will just wrap to the next line
[03:00] <locolbd> kiche: pelo: i dont want to see the panel if i maximize my window or a program
[03:00] <Drk_Guy> But if it's on the same folder?
[03:00] <erikrocha> Pelo, okey! sorry
[03:00] <Drk_Guy> ...As the script file, duh!
[03:00] <kitche> locolbd: then have it not stay on top, or have it auto hide
[03:00] <quirt33> can anyone tell me how to use my ctrl key as the right click button?
[03:00] <mightymball> can i changed my color font
[03:00] <kitche> Drk_Guy: exactly has you wrote it :)
[03:00] <Drk_Guy> Cool
[03:00] <Pelo> locolbd, ok,  find a free area of the pannel,  right click on it,  select properties,   there are your options, one is hide , I think there is also a keep on top
[03:00] <Drk_Guy> Thx
[03:00] <seiflotfy> i tried to uninstall gimmie using suo make uninstall  ----> so it uninstalled however its doesnt say  bash: gimmie: command not found                   intead it says
[03:00] <seiflotfy> bash: /usr/local/bin/gimmie: No such file or directory
[03:01] <Drk_Guy> I'll call you if i need more help
[03:01] <gaspipe67> hey people
[03:01] <erikrocha> Soy hispano hablante, :p pero en el canal de espaol , todo el mundo esta dormido :P
[03:01] <kitche> seiflotfy: that is the same error just said different
[03:01] <krillin> DrHalan: i had a similar problem a while ago. i believe it requires a little xorg.conf hacking. read man.conf for DisplaySize and calculate accordingly. most likely your issue will be resolved at that point
[03:01] <Pelo> erikrocha,  no problem It's just that we have no idea who is talking to who other wise and if you are done with your problem or not
[03:01] <erikrocha> por eso me vine al canal que esta en Ingles! :P ajaj
[03:01] <seiflotfy> well the problem is
[03:01] <Drk_Guy> (I'm going to test my automagic z605 script on my own machine!!1, gulp...)
[03:01] <Pelo> !es | erikrocha
[03:01] <ubotu> erikrocha: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:01] <seiflotfy> when i install gimmie form the repositories and type gimmie it gives me the same error
[03:01] <kitche> Drk_Guy: if you want to see a advance shell script look up some slackbuilds to give you an idea
[03:01] <seiflotfy> i have to type /usr/bin/gimmie
[03:01] <Drk_Guy> Thx
[03:02] <locolbd> kiche: pelo: okay thanks
[03:02] <erikrocha> ubotu thanks
[03:02] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:02] <locolbd> i tink autohide will have to do
[03:02] <astro76> seiflotfy, even after a logout?
[03:02] <seiflotfy> yep
[03:02] <Pelo> !botsnack
[03:02] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:02] <erikrocha> but all people this sleepy that way :P
[03:02] <locolbd> does anyone know the chatroom i can enter to discuss beryl issues
[03:02] <kitche> i barely know bash anymore :(
[03:02] <reya276> How can I get my drivers to reflect ATI instead of Mesa
[03:02] <kitche> locolbd: #beryl or #ubuntu-effects
[03:02] <reya276> I'm using the restricted drivers
[03:02] <Pelo> erikrocha,  you can try asking in here ask again from time to time
[03:03] <reya276> yet it says Mesa instead of ATI
[03:03] <seiflotfy> please help
[03:03] <Pelo> seiflotfy,  what's up ?
[03:03] <Drk_Guy> Why you say that Pelo?
[03:03] <seiflotfy> i want it to go
[03:03] <kitche> !ati | reya276: this tells you how to fully setup ati drivers
[03:03] <ubotu> reya276: this tells you how to fully setup ati drivers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> seiflotfy: just reinstall it from the repos.
[03:03] <ribando> hi everyone
[03:04] <kitche> Pelo: I don't use bash at all really anymore lol
[03:04] <seiflotfy> i did
[03:04] <seiflotfy> not working
[03:04] <Drk_Guy> kitche: How can i run the .sh script? (./~script.sh ?)
[03:04] <seiflotfy> i have to type /usr/bin gimmie for it to work
[03:04] <alecwh> Hello! I'm leaving on a flight tomorrow, and a friend of mine is coming with me. On the plane, we hope to connect our (ubuntu) computers together, and play some LAN video gaming. Is this possible without a hub/router? We both have working wireless cards
[03:04] <DrHalan> sstull how can i set the size of my virtual desktop?
[03:04] <astro76> alecwh, get a crossover cable
[03:04] <kitche> Drk_Guy: chmod +x script.sh then ~/script.sh
[03:04] <astro76> alecwh, ethernet
[03:05] <seiflotfy> i have to type /usr/bin gimmie for it to work else it jsut gives me the same error of no such file or folder in /usr/local/bin/gimmie
[03:05] <alecwh> astro76: There is no way to wirelessly connect?
[03:05] <Drk_Guy> Thx, i'll try that
[03:05] <krillin> i live in the west coast of the U.S., should i set my CMOS/BIOS clock to UTC?
[03:05] <rpedro> http://beryl-themes.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=63725&file1=63725-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Human+Orange+%28bottom+round+corners%29 <<  amarok with gnome 'human' theme? how?
[03:05] <Pelo> alecwh, try looking it up in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:05] <astro76> alecwh, maybe, but this would be vastly simpler
[03:05] <krillin> or should i stick with the factory shipped default of having local time = PST8PDT?
[03:05] <crowbar> I just switched from Kubuntu to Ubuntu.   I"m trying to set up global shortcut keys for rythmbox to change to next song, but I can't use a windows key+C combination.   There is no way to set a two key combo involving windows key.
[03:05] <alecwh> Pelo: I checked there, couldn't find anything useful.
[03:05] <alecwh> astro76: Ok, I do have a crossover, how does it work?
[03:05] <astro76> alecwh, I think many wireless cards can't work in that mode
[03:06] <ribando> I need some help...i've installed virtualbox, and I also managed to install winXP on it, but, I can't use it for more than 10 minutes, the winXP window just completely closes, and in the virtualbox program it says "aborted". can someone help me out please
[03:06] <astro76> alecwh, you just hook the two computers together via ethernet ports
[03:06] <Jordan_U> alecwh, In the network manager applet choose "Create new wireless network"
[03:06] <BaTmAn> hi
[03:06] <alecwh> Jordan_U: This is a wireless solution?
[03:06] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Yes
[03:06] <Pelo> alecwh, I don'T know much about this but I don'T think you can setup a network without a router,  mind you windows use to be able to do a direct connect using  paralled ports so I guess it is possible
[03:07] <alecwh> Jordan_U: Ok, I have a screen up, I have to pick a name or something
[03:07] <Jordan_U> alecwh, It may or may not work with your card though, so try it first
[03:07] <Pelo> ribando,  try the #vb channel I think it is , possibly #vbox
[03:07] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Just pick anything, doesn't matter
[03:07] <Drk_Guy> kitche: Bash reports it doesn't find the script
[03:07] <ribando> Pelo thanks
[03:07] <Drk_Guy> Why?
[03:08] <Drk_Guy> "ls ./" reports it is there
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Drk_Guy, How are you trying to run the script?
[03:08] <alecwh> Jordan_U, I just did it, and I got disconnected...
[03:08] <Drk_Guy> ~/Z605.sh
[03:08] <reya276> kitche: I did all that, for some reason my system is just messed up, the restricted Drivers are in use yet it still says Mesa
[03:08] <Jordan_U> alecwh, You can't be connected to a router via wireless and host your own wireless network
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Drk_Guy, ./Z605
[03:09] <alecwh> Jordan_U, Ok, so I just "hosted" my network, cool! I just reconnected to my home router, how do I connect back to my hosted network?
[03:09] <alecwh> I don't see it in the "quick list" In Gnome Network Manager
[03:09] <Drk_Guy> Gotcha
[03:09] <Drk_Guy> Script running
[03:10] <Drk_Guy> Thx Jordan_U
[03:10] <Jordan_U> Drk_Guy, np
[03:10] <kersinc07> #panas
[03:10] <kitche> Drk_Guy: yeah my way you had to do bash infront :)
[03:10] <Pelo> kersinc07, /join #panas
[03:10] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[03:10] <kitche> I m very tired tonight but think I m going to bed now anyways
[03:10] <Jordan_U> alecwh, I am not sure what you mean
[03:11] <Pelo> g'night kitche
[03:11] <Drk_Guy> If the last cmd was to re-start cups....
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> Is there a tool or command for finding out the make/model of my motherboard?
[03:11] <Drk_Guy> And the terminal reported it re-started it
[03:11] <Drk_Guy> ....
[03:11] <Pelo> tonyyarusso, won't the regular info commands do ?
[03:11] <Drk_Guy> Then...
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: such as?
[03:11] <alecwh> Jordan_U: I created my network, and then it disconnected me, so I quickly reconnected to my wifi router to rejoin this IRC. When I'm on the plane, how do I go back to my created network?
[03:11] <Drk_Guy> MY AUTOMAGIC SCRIPT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:11] <Drk_Guy> Yay!!!!
[03:11] <kitche> !caps | Drk_Guy
[03:11] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: I was hoping I could cat /proc/mbinfo or something, but there's no such file.
[03:12] <`eric-> sup all? anyone use deluge with blocklist plugin? I can't seem to find the blocklist plugin download? on their main page the link has been removed...? any ideas?
[03:12] <Drk_Guy> kitche: I'm so overwhelmed, let me be plz
[03:12] <kitche> Drk_Guy: that's ok try editing the startx script so it works correctly :)
[03:12] <Drk_Guy> WoW
[03:12] <Drk_Guy> kitche, want to eval my script?
[03:12] <Pelo> tonyyarusso, worst case scenario, reboot and check the bios info screen
[03:13] <etyrnal> who can i talk to for a moment about mounting an OSX exported nfs share on an 6.06 ubuntu system using fstab when the export has a space in the path-name ?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Just go to create new wireless network again, make sure to actually try connecting with another laptop to your hosted network, I have only ever actually done this before with iwconfig, not with network-manager
[03:13] <steven2342> is there anyway to mount a hard drive over ethernet?
[03:13] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: Easier said than done - no monitor on the machine in question ;)  (Would have to go steal my parents', lug it in and hook up, etc.)
[03:13] <kitche> Drk_Guy: nah since I m getting off right now
[03:13] <alecwh> ok, thanks for your help!
[03:13] <kitche> tonyyarusso: maybe mbmon might help you?
[03:13] <Falstius> etyrnal: you can't just escape the space with a \ ?
[03:13] <Drk_Guy> ok
[03:13] <Drk_Guy> ...
[03:13] <Jordan_U> etyrnal, Just a guess, but try escaping the space with a \ ?
[03:13] <Drk_Guy> -_-
[03:13] <etyrnal> thanks - will try
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> kitche: I'll try it
[03:14] <Therio> I tried running the live CD version of Ubuntu, but it did not automatically pick up my ip address. I am behind a firewall/router, but my ip address is not assigned. What else should I do?
[03:14] <n00bhay> how do i put "modprobe ndiswrapper | dhclient wlan0" in the startup?
[03:14] <alecwh> Jordan_U: I also have another weird thing... I'll be on a plane tomorrow, and for some reason when I plug in headphones, sound still comes out of my speakers.
[03:14] <eboyjr> tonyyarusso, i have monitor.. ill give it to you if your area code is 89129
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> eboyjr: heh, not even close.
[03:14] <eboyjr> tonyyarusso, lol
[03:14] <Falstius> Therio: you can assign an IP address manually with the GUI or ifconfig
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> eboyjr: hint, mine starts with 55 :P
[03:14] <kitche> tonyyarusso: but from what I seen you can't get the model of the mobo without looking at hte bios or opening it up
[03:14] <`eric-> anyone use deluge w/ blocklist plugin? or.. know of a "peerguardian" type app for linux?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Not quite sure how to make it automatic but you can always mute your speakers in alsamixer without muting your headphones
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> kitche: That's the funny thing - I have the machine open and can't find a name on it.
[03:15] <n00bhay> how do i put "modprobe ndiswrapper | dhclient wlan0" in the startup?
[03:15] <alecwh> Jordan_U: cool, can you help me find that?
[03:15] <moparisthebest> does anyone in here have a USB tv tuner card that works with ubuntu?
[03:16] <Therio> Would not the wouther have to be configure for static ip addresses then?
[03:16] <Pelo> tonyyarusso,  I think any command is more likely to return the chipset then the manufacturer's model
[03:16] <Therio> router
[03:16] <Jordan_U> n00bhay, Why are you piping the output of modprobe to dhclient? I think you want to use "&&" or ";" instead of "|"
[03:16] <Falstius> moparisthebest: mine is PCI
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> n00bhay: I'm not sure if it's the "proper" way, but I think it was something like /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh as one option.
[03:16] <Drk_Guy> kitche: I'm so thankful to you
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: Yeah, Intel 845G seems to be the chipset.
[03:16] <astro76> moparisthebest, I have one that doesn't work with linux :/
[03:16] <moparisthebest> Falstius, do you know what kind it is?
[03:16] <Drk_Guy> Without you, my script would never be existent
[03:16] <moparisthebest> thats what I am trying to avoid astro76 :)
[03:17] <n00bhay> Jordan_U, i used the pipe operator as a new line indicator
[03:17] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Sure, run alsamixer in the terminal
[03:17] <alecwh> Jordan_U: Ok, I'm there.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> n00bhay, Ahh, ok :)
[03:17] <Drk_Guy> And also Jordan_U, for telling me how to run the script correctly ;)
[03:17] <astro76> moparisthebest, if you can do pci get pci, I have a WinTV card which works great
[03:17] <n00bhay> ;-) yeah
[03:17] <Falstius> moparisthebest: wintv 150, but it is pci.  The chipset is Brooktree BT878
[03:17] <Pelo> tonyyarusso, have you tried asking in ##linux ?
[03:17] <astro76> moparisthebest, anything with BT878 chipset I think is good
[03:17] <moparisthebest> I really wanted one to work on this laptop as well
[03:17] <moparisthebest> but ill keep an eye out for that chipset
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> Pelo: No, good point.  Tried in #hardware, but not there.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> alecwh, What channels are there?
[03:18] <astro76> moparisthebest, you can probably google up a list
[03:18] <pawan> how to get beryl plugins
[03:18] <Pelo> moparisthebest, I suggest you search for usb tv tuner in the forum and see what comes up
[03:18] <Pelo> pawan,  ask in #beryl
[03:18] <moparisthebest> ok, thanks for the help
[03:18] <alecwh> Jordan_U: PCM, Front, Surround, Center, LFE, Line In, Mic as 0, Digital, Input So
[03:18] <darktemplar20> for some reason, when i try to load up ubuntu to install it, i get a loading hardware drivers message, and then it fails to keep loading up all of the other things it needs
[03:18] <darktemplar20> does anyone have any ideas?
[03:19] <Jordan_U> darkmatter, What version of Ubuntu?
[03:19] <darktemplar20> 7.04, the latest release
[03:19] <darktemplar20> desktop, x64
[03:19] <Pelo> darktemplar20,  what video card ?
[03:19] <Jordan_U> darkmatter, I assume with splash disabled?
[03:20] <darktemplar20> geforce GO 6150. i'm putting it onto my laptop
[03:20] <mightymball> poel u there
[03:20] <darkmatter> sheeesh.. learn to tab :P
[03:20] <mightymball> pelo
[03:20] <mightymball> is there any way u can watch tv on your computer for freee
[03:20] <Pelo> darktemplar20, ati and nvidia donT' have FOSS drivers so they are not included in ubuntu vanila, you will need to use the alternate install cd and I recommend you get the x86 one since not all ati nvidia drivers are available for 64
[03:21] <darktemplar20> ok
[03:21] <Pelo> mightymball, torrents,  democracy tv and other stuff
[03:21] <bulmer> mightymball: with an ATSC receiver card you can watch hdtv free
[03:21] <Pelo> mightymball, I'm not realy familar with most of them
[03:21] <mightymball> how much money are they
[03:21] <Capolus> hello. i'm having a problem with the sabayon tool. I want to set default firefox bookmarks for new accounts, but its bugged and dosnt work correctly. Is there an alternative?
[03:21] <darktemplar20> is the alternative CD similar to this version? as in it contains a GUI? i know a bit of UNIX, but my overall use of text based operations is less than stellar at the moment
[03:22] <ribando> between beryl and compiz fusion, which one is the more stable? and, has anyone had any problems in feist, while using compiz fusion?
[03:22] <Pelo> darktemplar20, no, the alternate install cd is only a text based intaller,  it does not let you try out ubuntu in live cd mode
[03:22] <astro76> darktemplar20, it's a text based installer but it has nothing to do with linux commands
[03:22] <bulmer> mightymball: i tried kworld hdtv model 115 for $85 dollars..not adequate..thats because maybe i dont have a good video card
[03:22] <alecwh> Jordan_U: The alsa channels are: PCM, Front, Surround, Center, LFE, Line In, Mic as 0, Digital, Input So
[03:22] <mightymball> lol well thats alrighjt
[03:23] <mightymball> i was just wondering
[03:23] <eternalswd> anyone know how to get scroll lock key to act like a normal key.  I'd like to use it as a standalone hotkey for ejecting my cd drive.  By default the scroll key is off.  I know I can set it to be mod3 with xmodmap -e 'add mod3 Scroll_Lock' but I would like it to not be a modifier key.
[03:23] <Pelo> Capolus, isn'T sabayon another distro altogether ? you would need to find their channel
[03:23] <Capolus> Pelo, Sabayon is both a linux distor and a tool for managing account profiles.
[03:23] <Capolus> distro*
[03:23] <james296> how can I verify amaranths compiz fusion repository?
[03:24] <Capolus> They just share the same name
[03:24] <Pelo> eternalswd, I think you can do that in  the keybaord shorcut dialog or in the scim thingy
[03:24] <alphanimal> hey Pelo, remember me? :)
[03:24] <Pelo> Capolus, clearly I know nothing about this so I suggest you repeat your query periodicaly
[03:24] <Pelo> Capolus,  or check in the forum
[03:24] <Pelo> yes alphanimal  I remember your nick , but not your problem
[03:25] <alphanimal> ALSA and OSS mess up
[03:25] <Capolus> Pelo, I already searched the forums, and googled, no luck so far :(
[03:25] <alphanimal> it's getting worse
[03:25] <Pelo> alphanimal,  yes I recall, I told you to find a way to redirecting alsa to your other card
[03:25] <alphanimal> :)
[03:25] <Jordan_U> alecwh, I am not actually sure which of those is going to control the headphones :) try muting channels ( the M key ) until it effects just the headphones and / or just the internal speakers
[03:25] <pawan> can rocketdock be used in ubuntu
[03:25] <alecwh> mk
[03:25] <alecwh> will do
[03:25] <alecwh> thanks Jordan_U!
[03:25] <Pelo> alphanimal,  sorry, but I realy donT' know how to go about fixing it,  did you check the card model in the forum ?
[03:26] <alphanimal> i posted in forum now but got no answer yet
[03:26] <alphanimal> the problem was that OSS took control over the device
[03:26] <Pelo> alphanimal,  it's always a better idea to search the forum
[03:26] <alphanimal> so ALSA couldn't start it
[03:26] <alphanimal> yes i serched
[03:26] <Jordan_U> alecwh, Np, report back which channel does what, I am curious :)
[03:26] <alphanimal> searched
[03:27] <alecwh> Jordan_U: Give me just a sec
[03:27] <Pelo> alphanimal,  google is also a good place not everything linux is in the ubuntuforums
[03:27] <alphanimal> after playing around a bit ALSA got the device again
[03:27] <pawan> hello
[03:27] <Capolus> Is there a way for me to change the default Firefox Bookmarks on new accounts in Ubuntu? I already tried the gnome tool Sabayon but its bugged and dosnt work correctly. Is there an alternative tool?
[03:27] <Pelo> pawan,  yes ?
[03:27] <Malachi> What's a CD burning app that will allow me to burn multiple tracks for different CDs without having to rip them first?
[03:27] <alphanimal> but more than one application can sill not access the sound
[03:28] <pawan> how
[03:28] <narg> Is there any chance that using split and cat would corrupt and archive?
[03:28] <narg> an*
[03:28] <Pelo> Capolus,  what do you mean by default FF book mark ?
[03:28] <Pelo> pawan, how what ?
[03:28] <pawan> rocketdock on ubuntu
[03:28] <etyrnal> what's wrong with this syntax in my fstab?  g5:"/Volumes/Big Momma/drqueue" /mnt/render nfs -P,-b
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Malachi, What do you mean, that doesn't seem possible unless you have two drives?
[03:29] <Pelo> narg,  you are probably better off unpacking the archive and making new ones
[03:29] <Capolus> Pelo, the firefox bookmarks any new accounts get. By default firefox generates "Getting Started" and "BBC headlines". I need to put a custom bookmarks.html there.
[03:29] <etyrnal> unfortunately the space in the filename HAS to stay
[03:29] <narg> Pelo: Assume that isn't an option.
[03:29] <Pelo> pawan,  can you bloody try to make complete sentences stating yor problem instead of a few words at a time
[03:29] <Pelo> narg, that take a chance or don't
[03:30] <narg> Pelo: thanks for the advice
[03:30] <Malachi> Jordan_U: I want to be able to insert CDs and select tracks to burn, and then at the end, when I'm ready to burn, reinsert the CDs again. So I won't have to rip them all to the HD.
[03:30] <Pelo> Capolus, I don'T know about disabling them from every new accounts at creation but you can remove them with the bookmark manager in firefox
[03:31] <Pelo> narg, make a copy and try it
[03:31] <Jordan_U> Malachi, Do you have multiple CDROM drives?
[03:31] <Malachi> Jordan_U: Either that, or have it automatically rip the songs I choose from a CD.
[03:31] <Malachi> Jordan_U: No.
[03:31] <alecwh> Jordan_U, I can't find it... :( The Mic and speakers work, but disabling the speakers disables the headphones as well. The headphones doesn't seem to have a specific channel.
[03:31] <alphanimal> Pelo, do you know a way to disable OSS?
[03:31] <etyrnal> no nfs experts here right now?
[03:31] <Capolus> Pelo, I know I can edit them manualy, but I want a new account to have those bookmarks automaticly instead of the default ones. Sabayon lets me do that, but for some reason it bugs and puts the bookmarks in a seperate folder.
[03:32] <Malachi> Jordan_U: Right now, I have to insert the CD, rip all the tracks, put them in a special folder, and then burn that folder.
[03:32] <Drk_Guy> How can i add a nice msg at the last part of the script, something like: "Congratulations, the script is done!"
[03:32] <Drk_Guy> ?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> alecwh, :(
[03:32] <Pelo> alphanimal,  I don'T , check in the forum  , I'm sorry but I am lowsy with hardware problems
[03:32] <Malachi> I'd rather have a program that allows me to insert a CD, choose the track, automatically rip the track, I pop in a new CD, do the same thing, then burn.
[03:32] <astro76> Drk_Guy, echo "your message"
[03:32] <Malachi> Jordan_U: But don't stress to hard. I'll just do it this way for now.
[03:32] <alphanimal> i did check the forum
[03:32] <alphanimal> but thx anyway
[03:33] <BaD_CrC> how do i obtain the UUID of a hard drive so i can add them to /etc/fstab ?
[03:33] <alphanimal> i'm off cya
[03:33] <Drk_Guy> astro76: so i just put in: echoe "Congratulations..."
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Malachi, You shouldn't have to rip the tracks that you don't want, I am still not quite sure what you want
[03:33] <Jordan_U> !uuid | BaD_CrC
[03:33] <ubotu> BaD_CrC: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:33] <sport> is it possible to SHH outside of my lan i port forwarded it.... now what?
[03:33] <BaD_CrC> gratias
[03:33] <Pelo> Capolus, I realy don'T know,  like I suggested befor you probably need to find a sabayon channel, for the app of course not for the distro
[03:34] <Malachi> Jordan_U: That's okay. I'll live.
[03:34] <b_9> my lcd seems to lose sync on my laptop.  I have a dell m1710 running ubnutu 7.04.  Is there a known fix/
[03:34] <b_9> ?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> sport, What are you trying to do?
[03:35] <Pelo> b_9,  known fixes would be in the forum
[03:35] <b_9> ok thanks pelo
[03:35] <Pelo> that is where known fixes go to die
 connect to a ubuntu samba lan server from outside on my house
[03:36] <sport> of* not on
[03:36] <yurimxpxman_> soundray: I can't see that unison is doing anything. It hasn't made any new files afaict. Does it put them in a temporary directory until it's done or something?
[03:36] <defendguin> anyone know a little bit about usplash?
[03:36] <Pelo> defendguin,  specific questions please
[03:37] <b_9> Pelo, thanks... I went to ubuntu forums the other day....  What forum are you specifically talking about?
[03:37] <defendguin> Pelo: well the usplash graphic is going away very early in the boot process and not returning
[03:37] <Jordan_U> sport, You should be able to simply "ssh user@yourIP"
[03:37] <Pelo> b_9 I was talking about the ubuntu forums, but I guess google might do as well
[03:38] <b_9> I'll dig further
[03:38] <Pelo> defendguin,  usplash is the little rectangle that appears in the middle of the desktop in the first few seconds after the destkop comes on , that is what you are talking about correct ?
[03:38] <defendguin> no
[03:38] <Jordan_U> defendguin, Probably some part of boot is taking longer than the default timeout for usplash
[03:39] <Iuri_RJ_B1> I need a help people, when I try to install a graphics driver it complains that I'm running XServer, so, How do I get a shell only environment with no graphic interface?
[03:39] <marginoferror> What's the preferred way to report a bug in a package that has no Launchpad project?
 shh command not found
[03:39] <Jordan_U> Pelo, No, usplash is the boot splash, not the login splash
[03:39] <defendguin> Jordan_U: there is some output that is causing usplash to go away so that i can view the message but it is something that can safely be ignored
[03:39] <Jordan_U> sport, Sorry, ssh
[03:39] <Pelo> Iuri_RJ_B1,   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:40] <Iuri_RJ_B1> thank you
[03:40] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I thought the login splash was the one where you put your nick and password in ?
 it just goes into ... nothing
[03:41] <defendguin> i did a little tinkering with usplash and i was curious if i altered my usplash.conf or my menu.list file in some way that would have caused this to happen
[03:41] <Jordan_U> Pelo, That is not a splash, that is a login screen, a splash screen is generally something that does nothing useful but looks pretty while you are waiting for something to load
[03:41] <sexcopte1> hi, how do i mount a .cue/.bin pair of files? is it using the mount command somehow?
 i can type but no password prompt no ls no cd /
[03:41] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  ok
[03:41] <Pelo> !iso | sexcopte1
[03:41] <ubotu> sexcopte1: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:41] <Jordan_U> sport, Do you have openssh-server installed on the machine at home?
[03:41] <marginoferror> Can anyone help me report a bug with an ubuntu package properly?
[03:42] <Jordan_U> marginoferror, Sure
 i can shh in fine using the local ip
[03:42] <sexcopte1> Pelo: this doesn't appear to be an iso file, it's a bin file
 ssh*
[03:42] <barnaby> Has anyone run across an Ubuntu-only cd burning issue? I have burned many cds with this laptop using different distros, but now both k3b and serpentine tell me they hate my blank cds. I thought I had a bad batch of cds until I booted into sabayon and burned a cd no problem. I can also burn an iso onto a dvd on this laptop with k3b.
[03:42] <marginoferror> Jordan_U: I have found a bug with ntfs-3g, but I don't know where to report it.  There's no launchpad project for it or FUSE in general.
[03:42] <Pelo> sexcopte1, it will work as well, you just substitute iso for bin
[03:42] <sexcopte1> Pelo, ok i'll try that thanks
[03:43] <marginoferror> Jordan_U: Oh, I'm running Gutsy, but I thought since this is a general "how do you report a bug" question it should go to this channel.
 only using putty tho.
[03:43] <Jordan_U> sport, It may be that putty uses a different port?
[03:44] <ParaDoX> Hey all... is there any kind of a program to compose music with or do remixes with that's similar to something like Sony Acid Pro or Propellorheads Reason for linux???
[03:44] <Pelo> ParaDoX, audacity for mixing and editing
 can I ssh through any port?
[03:44] <astro76> marginoferror, that would come under ubuntu (short cut bugs.ubuntu.com)
[03:44] <ParaDoX> Pelo: Can I load samples and make loops with that too?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> Paracha, Possibly Ardour
[03:45] <sexcopte1> Pelo: I get the message "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
 well i might be able to solve my problem form here thx for helping :D
[03:45] <Pelo> ParaDoX, I'm not too familar with it but it seemed pretty extensive,
[03:45] <Jordan_U> sport, Yes but you need to set ssh to listen to that port and have that port forewarded
[03:45] <ParaDoX> Pelo: Okay, thanks, I'll check it out!
[03:45] <sexcopte1> Pelo: and the mime-type appears to be application/x-cd-image
[03:45] <marginoferror> Jordan_U: IRC silently died on me, so if you sent a response to my previous question about filing a bug report for ntfs-3g, I didn't get it =(
[03:46] <Pelo> sexcopte1, you need to follow the exemple in the links, it deosnT' mount like a hdd you need to loop it some how,
[03:46] <Jordan_U> Paracha, Ardour is much more complete / professional http://www.ardour.org/
[03:46] <rebel4lyfe> Paradox: I have had great success for editing mixing and filtering music using audacity for Linux on this laptop.
[03:47] <ParaDoX> rebel4lyfe: Okay, I'll take you're word for it... i'm installing it now
[03:48] <jonathan8di> Do I need to install an anti-virus program and setup a firewall?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> marginoferror, I am actually getting an error trying to do anything with launchpad right now :)
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !virus | jonathaN
[03:48] <ubotu> jonathaN: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:48] <jonathan8di> I know viruses are much less common on Linux
[03:48] <marginoferror> Jordan_U: Oh.  It seemed to be working okay for me a half-hour ago...
[03:49] <marginoferror> Ugh.  This bug I thought I found with ntfs-3g is still here, but apparently has a different cause than I thought.  What a mess.
[03:49] <defendguin> Jordan_U: do you think you could give me the kernel line from your grub menu.list file?
[03:49] <erisco> where is browser cache stored?
[03:49] <Pelo> later folks
[03:49] <Jordan_U> jonathaN, By default Ubuntu does not have anything listening on any port except for icmp ( ping ) so you don't need to configure the firewall unless you add something that does
[03:49] <b_9> Pelo, I'm still seeing plenty of people with sync problems in forums, but no solution...  I'm obviously not too proficient.  Any specific thread that will fix my lcd occasionally losing sync?
[03:50] <Jordan_U> defendguin, Sure, but it would likely cause you to have a kernel panick at boot :)
[03:50] <kersinc07> #panas
[03:50] <defendguin> i'm not gonna copy it
[03:50] <kkek> is there a way to pervent ubuntu from automatically mounting a certain partition when a usb drive is plugged in (for instance, if I have two partitions on a usb drive... one labeled linux, and the other labeled data, can I prevent the partition labeled linux from being automounted)
[03:50] <defendguin> just look at it
[03:51] <Jordan_U> defendguin, /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=729ddb88-9712-4c71-8173-ec7a76a2d46b ro quiet splash lpj=8000000
[03:51] <RxDx> how can i restore my ipod on linux?
[03:51] <defendguin> Jordan_U: looks right to me
[03:52] <defendguin> what about your usplash.conf
[03:52] <defendguin> mine only has 2 lines in it
[03:52] <Jordan_U> defendguin, Why are you asking?
[03:52] <astro76> !ipod | RxDx
[03:52] <ubotu> RxDx: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[03:52] <RxDx> thanks
[03:52] <Jordan_U> defendguin, Mine also
[03:52] <RxDx> !rockbox
[03:52] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[03:52] <defendguin> for some reason usplash isn't working properly
[03:53] <Falstius> any hints on getting the 'one touch backup' button on an external USB drive to work?  It doesn't show up as a keyboard event in xev.
[03:53] <lullis> Hi all. I am trying to get Flash Player working on my machine. It is a Athlon X2. Apparently, Adobe's Installer compains about being a x86-64 architecture...
[03:53] <kkek> is there a way to prevent automounting of a partition with a certain lable (ie, don't automount any partitions named "linux")
[03:54] <defendguin> Jordan_U: the boot log is kept in /var/log/boot ?
[03:54] <Ste-Foy> ahhh un rayon de soleil
[03:54] <Jordan_U> !flash64 | lullis
[03:54] <ubotu> lullis: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:54] <Jordan_U> defendguin, AFIK yes
[03:54] <WindsofTime> mightymball hows the download coming?
[03:54] <defendguin> my log is empty i wonder why
[03:54] <crabgrass> hey what's the name of that one file that refrences drives by uuid? fcsk is complaining about a nonexistant drive and i can't remember where that file is.
[03:54] <astro76> kkek, is this a partition on your hard drive
[03:54] <Falstius> kkek: you could do it with a custom udev rule, I think.
[03:55] <alskdjfas> Hello, I just installed ubuntu, and there's a terrible problem. When I put in any CD/DVD, it gets very slow, and I can't work with any file of the CD. Anyone know about this?
[03:55] <kkek> astro76, no... a partition on a usb drive... it has a data partition, and a partition I will be installing an OS on... I only want the data partition automounted.
[03:55] <Jordan_U> defendguin, Why would you expect there to be anything there?
[03:55] <eboyjr> I f I install Ubuntu on a new machine without Windows or any other OS, will Ubuntu install GRUB and use it? ( I hope not )
[03:55] <Kist> Can I ask a newbie question?
[03:55] <Malachi> Of course, Kist.
[03:55] <eboyjr> Kist, yea
[03:55] <Kist> I'm using the terminal.
[03:55] <DjKoRn`> wuzup!?
[03:55] <kkek> Falstius: I'm fairly new to linux... any idea what the udev rule would look like?
[03:56] <defendguin> Jordan_U: well i would expect anything output created during boot to be saved somewhere
[03:56] <Kist> And I start a program with the terminal
[03:56] <Malachi> Kist: Okay.
[03:56] <Kist> But it doesn't go back to the prompt, I think.
[03:56] <Malachi> Kist: That's because it won't go back until you end the program.
[03:56] <crabgrass> where's the file that references drives by uuid?
[03:56] <Kist> Oh okay.
[03:56] <zoidberg_> guys i need some help...does anyone in here know about Latex and Bibtex?
[03:56] <Malachi> Kist: You can always add a & to the end of the command to prevent that from happening.
[03:56] <Kist> I figured.
[03:56] <Malachi> Kist: Or, you can press Alt+F2 and type the program name.
[03:56] <alskdjfas> Guys, any CD/DVD I put in, don't work, it gets terribly slow, and I can't work on any file.
[03:57] <astro76> crabgrass, links are in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:57] <Kist> Ah, okay, I wanted to open multiple programs and it kept doing that.
[03:57] <Malachi> Kist: If the program doesn't have a shortcut, try using ALT+F2. It's the same thing as the Run Command in Windows.
[03:57] <crabgrass> astro76: hmm, the one fcsk is complaining about isn't in there. anywhere else it would read from?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Kist, And if you want the programs to not quit when you close the terminal use screen
[03:58] <Malachi> Kist: You can always add a shortcut by right-clicking the desktop or panel and choosing "Create Launcher."
[03:58] <astro76> crabgrass, oh that's probably in your fstab then
[03:58] <astro76> !uuid | crabgrass
[03:58] <ubotu> crabgrass: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:58] <crabgrass> astro76: fstab! that's the one! thanks, brb
[03:58] <gaspipe67> anyone know how compatable the HP Officejet Pro L7680 All-in-One printer is with ubuntu?
[03:59] <eboyjr> !hi
[03:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:59] <Jordan_U> !hardware | gaspipe67
[03:59] <ubotu> gaspipe67: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:59] <gaspipe67> Jordan_U: thanks
[03:59] <Jordan_U> gaspipe67, Np
[03:59] <Kist> Sorry, disconnected.
[04:00] <Kist> But yeah, alt+F2 at any time and end commands in the terminal with &?
[04:00] <astro76> gaspipe67, apparently it works perfectly http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_Pro_L7600
[04:00] <pvl> can any1 help me set up my microphone? when i speak into it, the sounds coem out at the speakers but the computer wont record
[04:00] <indigo> mutt
[04:01] <nolhay> how can i add modprobe ndiswrapper to the startup?
[04:01] <ironfroggy> Is there a good way to try and recover the data in nodes after a file was opened for writing, loosing the previous data?
[04:01] <crabgrass> astro76: interesting, apparently i have a second hdd in my box that i forgot all about
[04:01] <ironfroggy> my wife lost hours and hours of work when she tried save in GIMP and it died halfway through.
[04:02] <crabgrass> astro76: in fstab it's mount point is /media/hdc1, but it's not mounting at boot
[04:02] <zoidberg_> guys i need some help...does anyone in here know about Latex and Bibtex?
[04:02] <SirBob1701> so how can i download all the gaim pixmaps agian?
[04:02] <SirBob1701> i screwed up lol
[04:03] <gaspipe67> astro76: thanks again.... I'm thinking about buying this one, and my old brother mfp didn"t work with linux
[04:03] <astro76> gaspipe67, hp is very good as they actively support open source drivers
[04:04] <leftyfb> has anyone here ever got a "live cd" to boot over pxe?
[04:04] <Grungebunny> Hello, im going to be getting a laptop soon and will be wanting to run a network with a wireless router..both computers will be dualboot with Ubuntu/XP how difficult is it to setup a network like this? Im trying to plan ahead.
[04:04] <Falstius> kkek: udev rules are fairly cryptic and I haven't played with it in a few years.  You'd have to google it.
[04:04] <gaspipe67> astro76: I want a good mfp with fax and also prints some decent quality photo prints
[04:04] <gaspipe67> astro76: this has some good reviews
[04:05] <Superkuh> It is a long story, fiesty 64 bit, xinerama with nvidia proprietary drivers. gnome-terminal issues. In order to get it to launch at all (I use rxvt now instead) I have to "$XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 gnome-terminal" as per http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354767#c5, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17/+bug/58232, and my own report: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-term
[04:05] <Superkuh> inal/+question/9430 . I am trying to add that ENV variable to all shortcuts in the gnome menu, but fail. Can someone help?
[04:05] <astro76> Grungebunny, dirt simple
[04:05] <pvl> it sint difficult at all
[04:05] <zoidberg_> guys i need some help...does anyone in here know about Latex and Bibtex?
[04:05] <Flannel> !anyone | zoidberg_
[04:05] <ubotu> zoidberg_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:05] <astro76> Grungebunny, only thing to look out for is a well supported wireless card in the laptop
[04:05] <Grungebunny> astro are there some guides I can read so I know what i'll be doing in setting up the network ahead of time with ubuntu?
[04:05] <macogw> Grungebunny: if it says "centrino" you're good
[04:06] <macogw> Grungebunny: thatll have intel 3945 wireless, and those work great
[04:06] <macogw> Grungebunny: dont get ATI graphics
[04:06] <zoidberg_> how do u install bibtex on ubunut?
[04:07] <nolhay> how can i add modprobe ndiswrapper to the startup?
[04:07] <SirBob1701> how do i get the gaim pixmaps (24x24)
[04:08] <Flannel> zoidberg_: bibtex is included in tetex-extra
[04:08] <Jordan_U> marginoferror, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g
[04:08] <ironfroggy> i know i can undelete, but what about when a file is overwritten, but only the very beginning?
[04:08] <ironfroggy> i know that, physically, the data is still there.
[04:08] <leftyfb> I can get a pxe server going just fine using netboot images for installation. Apparently it is possible to copy the contents of the live cd to an nfs share and boot the live gnome environment over pxe. Has anyone got this to work or can help me out? I get to "squashfs: version ..blah blah blah" and a bunch of nfs activity, but then it just stops.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> nolhay, Add it to /etc/modules
[04:09] <nolhay> Jordan_U, i tried but to no avail it didn't do squat
[04:09] <astro76> ironfroggy, the very beginning is the worst part to lose if you're looking for non text files
[04:09] <nolhay> i put a file in there called wireless.modules
[04:09] <nolhay> had it go to /bin/sh
[04:09] <Drk_Guy> If anyone is interested
[04:09] <nolhay> and then run modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:10] <Jordan_U> nolhay, I mean the file /etc/modules
[04:10] <Drk_Guy> I'll put the Z600 automagic script in linuxgoodies.wordpress.om tomorrow
[04:10] <Drk_Guy> *c.com
[04:10] <nolhay> kedit /etc/modules
[04:10] <ripper> nano ftw
[04:11] <Jordan_U> nolhay, You need root privileges to save it, try "sudo nano /etc/modules"
[04:11] <nolhay> Jordan_U,  THANKS that was the file i was looking for... and im logged in as root
[04:12] <Jordan_U> nolhay, DO NOT log in as root
[04:12] <nolhay> and i ended up doin nano
[04:12] <nolhay> Jordan_U, im configuring another computer
[04:12] <nolhay> im not root ight here
[04:12] <GNine> if i delete ntfs partition on hard drive using gparted, will grub adjust automatically to the change?
[04:12] <Jordan_U> nolhay, Logging in as root with X is dangerous and insecure
[04:13] <Superkuh> I am trying to set an environmental variable, 'XIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1' to work around a gnome/nvidia/xinerama bug. Can someone teach me how to do this via editing the applications menu, as opposed to cli calls?
[04:13] <leftyfb> anyone?
[04:13] <nolhay> heh not really concerned about security and i got everything undercontrol now
[04:13] <alskdjfas> my system can't read Cd's/dvd's well, it's VERY slow at that, any Idea, thank you ver much.
[04:13] <Superkuh> Er, XLIB.
[04:13] <jax_beachbum> hey everybody!
[04:13] <eboyjr> !hi
[04:13] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:13] <macogw> alskdjfas: clean your cd drive
[04:13] <Superkuh> alskdjfas: check if they are in PIO mode or DMA.
[04:14] <jax_beachbum> i just installed Feisty Fawn on my friend's Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop. It went great, except for one problem - I can't get the wireless network card to work. Can anyone help?
[04:14] <ironfroggy> ask dell
[04:14] <alskdjfas> Superkuh, thanks, how can I check that? sorry I'm a noob.
[04:15] <Superkuh> Me too. But those are keywords you can use in your search.
[04:15] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: try ndiswrapper instead of bcm
[04:15] <alskdjfas> ok thanks, I appreciate your help.
[04:15] <Jordan_U> jax_beachbum, Do you know what chipset it is?
[04:15] <Superkuh> Perhaps system->preferences->hardware management.
[04:15] <nolhay> Jordan_U, still no go, it didn't work
[04:15] <Jordan_U> DjViper, jax_beachbum Always try getting the firmware first if it's broadcom
[04:16] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: I did that, following this tutorial: http://pervasivecomputing.net/ubuntu_feisty_7_04_on_dell_inspiron_e1505
[04:16] <DjViper> Jordan_U: bcm driver is not working on 50% or so of all the dell's I've seen with ubuntu
[04:16] <jax_beachbum> I probably just did something n00b. That's all.
[04:16] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: okay
[04:16] <OverLord> y a des francais des usa ou canada ici ?
[04:17] <jax_beachbum> I installed Wifi Radar, but it's not working like it does on my old Toshiba laptop with Xubuntu feisty
[04:17] <element43> so I have a VPS from vpslink.com .. Ubuntu 7.04 - They give you one account root. so i logged in as root and created a new user. added them to the adm group, and still I could not use sudo. So I did visudo and add %adm ALL=(ALL) ALL to the end of the file.  Still I can't not sudo with my user. Any ideas?
[04:17] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: you need to blacklist the old driver etc and you probably need to either get or atleast start network manager
[04:17] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: wifi radar is complicated, get network manager instead
[04:17] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: ok thanks. I did blacklist the old driver, but I forgot about network manager. thanks
[04:18] <Toma-> !fr
[04:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:18] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: and get get the wpa driver
[04:18] <OverLord> je veux pas d'aide , je cherche des contacts us ou canadien
[04:18] <palintheus_> !fr | OverLord
[04:18] <ubotu> OverLord: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:19] <zendo> Hi, when I try to compile some GUI program  I get error message that X11 libraries are missing. Can someone pleaste tell me what should I install?
[04:19] <nolhay> OverLord, query moi
[04:19] <OverLord> ok
[04:19] <Grandpappi> can someone give me a hand with madwifi-ng drivers? i've followed the ubuntuforums instructions (several of them), and kismet works, but i can't seem to put the card in monitor mode. any way to determine if the new drivers are in effect?
[04:20] <newpers> any ideas why i get slow ping responses on ubuntu
[04:20] <leftyfb> I can get a pxe server going just fine using netboot images for installation. Apparently it is possible to copy the contents of the live cd to an nfs share and boot the live gnome environment over pxe. Has anyone got this to work or can help me out? I get to "squashfs: version ..blah blah blah" and a bunch of nfs activity, but then it just stops.
[04:21] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: how do you do that?
[04:21] <GNine> boot.ini invalid on ntfs partition (windows XP), how to fix that
[04:21] <GNine> from ubuntu
[04:21] <Rowan> hey guys
[04:21] <Rowan> are hte ubuntu repositories down?
[04:21] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[04:21] <vOv> hi ~
[04:22] <jax_beachbum> thx
[04:22] <Ohzie> For some reason gnome has no option to shutdown and the "shutdown" command does not exist. :(
[04:22] <Ohzie> !shutdown
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shutdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <nils__as>  #ubuntu-de
[04:22] <nils__as> sry
[04:22] <randoman> hey guys, how do I enable the /etc/rc.local file?
[04:22] <southafrikanse> hello I wish to install compiz fusion. How can I do it?
[04:23] <southafrikanse> latest release
[04:23] <vOv> use to google
[04:23] <randoman> hey guys, how do I add a program to bootup,
[04:23] <bobsomebody> question, is there a way for me to rotate my moniters output on a laptop? IE: I would like the display to resolve at 768X1024 with a 90 degree rotation
[04:23] <DjViper> southafrikanse: there are lots of tutorials on how to install compiz-fusion on the forum and on howtoforge.com
[04:23] <mightymball> where did pelo go
[04:23] <RxDx> is there any aplications to restore my ipod as factory defaults on linux?
[04:24] <randoman> do I add the command to /etc/rc.local
[04:24] <Rowan> randoman, have you tried going to System >> Preferences >> Session >> Startup Options
[04:24] <bobsomebody> randoman, use System > Preferences > Session > add a new launcher
[04:24] <Toma-> randoman: sure thatll work if it doesnt need a gui
[04:24] <bobsomebody> lol
[04:25] <randoman> isnt there another way
[04:25] <zonkiest> Hi, my numberpad on my keyboard doesn't seem to be working in 6.06 Server ?
[04:25] <Rowan> err, startup programs
[04:25] <Toma-> randoman: what program?
[04:25] <randoman> it wont run beccause it needs root privileges
[04:25] <Rowan> randoman
 randoman, have you tried going to System >> Preferences >> Session >> Startup Options
 randoman, use System > Preferences > Session > add a new launcher
[04:25] <randoman> rowan I know this
[04:25] <Toma-> randoman: /etc/rc.local is executed as root
[04:25] <Rowan> im sure you can do   "sudo beryl-manager" or whatever you're opening
[04:25] <Rowan> :P
[04:25] <randoman> ok toma so i add /usr/bin/firestarter
[04:26] <randoman> and it should load up
[04:26] <Toma-> !info firestarter
[04:26] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 396 kB, installed size 1920 kB
[04:26] <bobsomebody> any ideas about that screen rotate thing?
[04:26] <randoman> the r.local file says this
[04:26] <randoman> # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution
[04:26] <randoman> # bits.
[04:26] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: ok, I verified that network manager was already installed and running, and I have the wpasupplicant driver, but it's still not working.
[04:26] <Toma-> randoman: hmm yeh you wont run that from rc.local
[04:26] <Rowan> actually guys i myself had a question, the default keyring, is there any way i can add things to the keyring and NOT have to put in my password? its annoying booting up my computer and having to put in a keyring password for the wrieless internet.
[04:26] <randoman> ok
[04:26] <randoman> but say apache, or mysql etc will run from rc.local?
[04:27] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: when i disconnect from the wired network, it can't connect to any of the wireless networks. Should I enable roaming mode?
[04:27] <Rowan> apache, mysql both bootup by default
[04:27] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: no, hmm
[04:27] <Toma-> randoman: not really, they all have their own startup scripts in /etc/rc.d/
[04:27] <randoman> i know, i disabled that
[04:27] <randoman> ok
[04:27] <randoman> nm
[04:27] <Toma-> apache for instance, needs to run as var-www i think
[04:27] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: what exactly happens when you try to connect?
[04:27] <randoman> apache can run from anywhere you isntall it to
[04:27] <randoman> ;P
[04:27] <Toma-> randoman: does firestarter have its own init script?
[04:27] <randoman> yeah but its not executing
[04:27] <randoman> for some reason
[04:27] <randoman> thast why im asking
[04:27] <why_ati> effects
[04:28] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: it has roaming mode enabled by default.
[04:28] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: turn it off
[04:28] <Toma-> randoman: yes, but needs to be executed as a specify user
[04:28] <randoman> ok
[04:28] <Toma-> randoman: ahh you need to add it to init... hold on
[04:28] <randoman> k
[04:28] <Tamale> how can i just go back one revision with apt-get?
[04:28] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: The options network manager gives me are: "Wired Network" and "Manual Configuration"
[04:28] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: sorry - n00b here
[04:28] <Tamale> the latest compiz broke me
[04:29] <randoman> toma: so this is how you direct the txt to me
[04:29] <randoman> how do you direct the text to a specific person without msging htem?
[04:29] <Toma-> randoman: im hitting 'rando' then i hit tab
[04:29] <ahmadsaifan> Im having problems with beryl ( please view screenshot) : http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkq1.png
[04:29] <randoman> ahhh
[04:29] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: ok, I turned it off. Am now trying to connect to my dlink router. Should I choose hexadecimal wep key or ascii wep key?
[04:29] <Toma-> randoman: its called tab completion... works great for getting peoples attention :)
[04:29] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: hm.. you need to dig through some logs and look for that hick-up
[04:30] <randoman> yeah it does
[04:30] <ahmadsaifan> My guess is that beryl is crashing
[04:30] <atoms2> done someone know how to install flash for firefox under ubuntu. I'm copying libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin however it does not work
[04:30] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: You lost me ...
[04:30] <Toma-> randoman: heres an interesting thread... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2587040
[04:31] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: I cant help you any further with so little to go on :)
[04:31] <DjViper> sorry
[04:31] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: what log should I look at?
[04:31] <ahmadsaifan> SOMEONE please view screenie: http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkq1.png
[04:31] <ahmadsaifan> im having problems with beryl
[04:32] <randoman> ahh gracias
[04:32] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: dmesg
[04:32] <randoman> i dont have to have it running anyways
[04:32] <Tamale> how can i just go back one revision with apt-get?
[04:32] <Tamale> the latest version of compiz seems to be broken
[04:32] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[04:33] <Toma-> Tamale: you cant really
[04:33] <ahmadsaifan> #beryl
[04:33] <Toma-> (at least with apt or synaptic)
[04:33] <Tamale> Toma-: no offense, but what's the point of a system like apt if you can't do versioning?
[04:33] <Tamale> lol
[04:33] <Tamale> seems a little silly
[04:33] <sippyCUP> ehm
[04:33] <jax_beachbum> DjViper: I just noticed my dlink router is operating in WPA2 security mode. Could that be the problem?
[04:33] <TylerJGillies> how do you enable universe component?
[04:34] <Toma-> Tamale: well, you can, but since youre using a bleeding edge repo, they wont keep old versions
[04:34] <Tamale> i bet they would considering how often it breaks
[04:34] <Tamale> in any case, how can you try?
[04:34] <DjViper> jax_beachbum: dont know, if you are using the wpa driver it should work
[04:34] <Tamale> isn't it like, policy or something?
[04:34] <Toma-> Tamale: you can try, highlight the package and click "PAckage > Force version"
[04:34] <Toma-> in synaptic
[04:35] <Tamale> ty
[04:35] <Toma-> but again, its probably been *Updated*
[04:36] <Tamale> they had a few olders ones still
[04:36] <Tamale> *crossing fingers*
[04:36] <TylerJGillies> a lot of my gnome stuff spits out alsa errors anyone know anything about that?
[04:37] <Toma-> Tamale: you may need to lock the versions of a few packages
[04:37] <Tamale> yah it didn't quite work
[04:37] <rebel4lyfe> Is there a relatively easy way to incorporate peap (cisco) into the wireless, or is it something that should simply work with feisty?
[04:37] <icespider69199> could someone please help me? I'm trying to use a Samba share as my library for banshee or exaile
[04:37] <foug> how do i open a zip file through terminal
[04:37] <marginoferror> Jordan_U: I saw your message a while ago.  Thanks for the link, I will post the bug there.
[04:38] <Journeyman> how do I see how big a folder is in command line
[04:38] <Toma-> Tamale: when you do get it working, Lock the versions you get so you dont break the system again (or do what i did and get rid of the offending repo
[04:38] <Journeyman> when I mean how big, I mean everything in it, including subfolders
[04:38] <Toma-> Journeyman: 'man du'
[04:38] <Jason5876> foug: I believe it is unzip file.zip if you are in the directory the file is in.
[04:38] <salkot> How much extra disk space will be used when I upgrade to Feisty?
[04:38] <leftyfb> Journeyman: du -sh /foldername
[04:38] <leftyfb> foug: unzip filename
[04:39] <foug> thanks
[04:39] <Jordan_U> marginoferror, np
[04:39] <caner> how can i kill the processes that are owned by the root (i am the root) simple kill command doesnt kill them i am not sure why?
[04:39] <leftyfb> Journeyman: du -sh /foldername/*
[04:39] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm trying to use ffmpeg to create an mpeg video from a .wav audio stream and a jpeg to use as simply a background image. I know it can be done, but I don't remember how
[04:39] <OrgulloKmoore> any clues?
[04:39] <leftyfb> caner , reboot
[04:39] <Journeyman> ah
[04:39] <leftyfb> becuase that's what you're only option is if you try to kill all processes owned by root
[04:39] <Journeyman> Toma-, thanks
[04:39] <Jordan_U> caner, Kill -9
[04:39] <Tamale> Toma-: I don't know how to get it working though now :)
[04:40] <caner> Jordan_U wont it kill all the proccesses i can
[04:40] <Toma-> Tamale: you might have the old packages in /var/apt/cache, you can use dpkg to manually install them all, but like i said, its a pita. :)
[04:40] <Journeyman> why does apt-get remove not remove everything
[04:40] <kyncani_> salkot: in /etc/apt/sources.list, replace edgy with feisty, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will tell you about space requirement. Then revert the changes in sources.list
[04:40] <Journeyman> it leaves start up scripts, config files and other crap
[04:41] <Journeyman> is there  a way to make sure everything gets deleted
[04:41] <Jordan_U> caner, I am not sure what you mean?
[04:41] <leftyfb> Journeyman: sudo apt-get remove --purge <program>
[04:41] <salkot> kyncani_, thanks
[04:41] <palintheus> Journeyman: use autoremove or use aptitude to install and remove aps
[04:41] <Tamale> Toma-: I'm working with a guy in ubuntu-effects
[04:41] <kyncani_> salkot: use --dry-run with apt-get to make sure you don't do the upgrade
[04:41] <salkot> ok
[04:42] <icespider69199> could someone show me how to add a Samba share to my library in Banshee or Exaile?
[04:42] <leftyfb> I can get a pxe server going just fine using netboot images for installation. Apparently it is possible to copy the contents of the live cd to an nfs share and boot the live gnome environment over pxe. Has anyone got this to work or can help me out? I get to "squashfs: version ..blah blah blah" and a bunch of nfs activity, but then it just stops.
[04:43] <Rowan> is there any way i can add things to the keyring and NOT have to put in my password? its annoying booting up my computer and having to put in a keyring password for the wireless internet.
[04:44] <mannytu> leftyfb: Thank you for <sudo apt-get remove --purge <program>>
[04:44] <icespider69199> Rowan: edit /etc/pam.d/gdm
[04:44] <icespider69199> Rowan: and add the following line at the end:
[04:44] <icespider69199> Rowan: @include common-pamkeyring
[04:44] <rottle> is there a quick way to turn ubuntu 7.04 into a wireless access point?
[04:45] <icespider69199> Rowan: for this to work, your login password and keyring password need to be the same
[04:45] <Rowan> ty very much
[04:45] <Rowan> they are
[04:45] <clusty> hey
[04:45] <clusty> I am looking for some program to create movies from a bunch of images
[04:46] <clusty> something nicer than mencoder
[04:46] <clusty> any ideas?
[04:46] <caner> i just want to kill two certain proccesses. i use the command kill #proc_num but it doesnt kill
[04:46] <caner> Jordan_U althouh i run it as a root
[04:46] <caner> leftyfb , why do u think i should reboot. is it a failure you thnk?
[04:46] <clusty> caner, try killall -9 <name of command>
[04:46] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i got a little wifi problem.... my router is located downstairs in the basement, i use my laptop on the 2nd floor of my house, i get about 50% signal strength, so now when im downstairs here , it is still the same... and im 3 feet from the router, anyone got a solution
[04:46] <randoman> ok well i figured it out
[04:46] <ToddEDM> ?
[04:47] <caner> i terminated a sudo apt-get install ... prog with ctrl+z and it stays there (as a zombie or smth like that i am not sure). so i cant start a new apt-get install ....  thats why i am trying to kill it
[04:47] <randoman> I had to had gksu /usr/sbin/firestarter, to sessions
[04:47] <clusty> caner, do a fg in the shell
[04:47] <Jordan_U> caner, And if you run kill -9 PID ?
[04:47] <palintheus> how would I delete multiple files with different names, but same extension that are in different sub-directories directories of a folder?
[04:47] <clusty> caner, ctrl z just suspends
[04:47] <palintheus> preferably with CLI
[04:47] <salkot> kyncani_, can I just run the upgrade manually by omitting the "dry-run" option? It looks like I have enough room, even though the Update Manager keeps reporting thatI don't.
[04:48] <clusty> anyone video editing?
[04:48] <ToddEDM> does anyone know what is happening with my wireless???
[04:48] <Jordan_U> caner, kill just sends a sigquit which is like politely asking the program to quit, kill -9 sends a sigkill which means GTFO :)
[04:48] <kyncani_> salkot: don't forget you must add the use space and the download size
[04:48] <shiv_j> how do I get a text mode during boot? Which button to press
[04:48] <KlrSpz> hellow everybody... i'm a gentoo user looking for a reasonable deployment method for my HTPC, and was wondering how people feel about UBUNTU for such a method... also, how does ubuntu act in a VMWare in regards to "sampling" the OS?
[04:49] <ToddEDM>  hey guys, i got a little wifi problem.... my router is located downstairs in the basement, i use my laptop on the 2nd floor of my house, i get about 50% signal strength, so now when im downstairs here , it is still the same... and im 3 feet from the router, anyone got a solution
[04:49] <salkot> kyncani_, even still
[04:49] <caner> Jordan_U , thank u friend it i told it to gtfo :) its gone now. ive understood your point
[04:49] <salkot> It looks like it will need 1.3GB, I have 1.5 free, and 900MB of what it needs is for downloads
[04:49] <KlrSpz> ToddEDM, there are repeaters you can get... some work specifically with particular routers, some just take all signals and repeat with amplification
[04:50] <kyncani_> salkot: well, if the update manager won't do it (stubborn thing), if it was me, i would dist-upgrade without too muchsecond thought, even if it is not the preferred way
[04:50] <logreeval> Hi, When I play games like TORCS, the sound gets really poppy/crackly/choppy, does someone here knwo how to fix it?
[04:50] <salkot> ToddEDM, your signal is strong, but it hasn't updated in your display yet
[04:50] <salkot> kyncani_, ok
[04:50] <jax_beachbum2> DjViper: I just noticed my dlink router is operating in WPA2 security mode. Could that be the problem?
[04:50] <kyncani_> salkot: enjoy feisty :)
[04:50] <Opus41> Greetings, ubutu-ers.
[04:50] <FactTech> Question: What's the best channel to ask about getting an ancient ISA network card to work?
[04:50] <salkot> thanks :)
[04:50] <Opus41> On a newly-installed copy of Festy running on a Dell Optiplex, I've run into an odd problem with "services-admin", the Gnome tool for starting up various services including Samba.  The dialog box appears with its title, but that's it.  Sysetm Monitor reports that the process is "sleeping".  Tried killing & restarting it, same result.  Tried running it from command line, same result.  Anything I should try next?
[04:51] <fenix> saludos alguien a trabajado con moin moin
[04:52] <rebel4lyfe> It took me about three attempts to upgrade this machine to feisty, and equal to attempt dis-upgrade, but once I got away from this high latency connection it went flawless
[04:52] <kyncani_> salkot: i would also quit gnome and dist-upgrade from a console
[04:52] <djtansey> i have a serious problem -- ubuntu is no longer booting and mounting my hard drive.
[04:52] <salkot> kyncani_, how?
[04:52] <scam> djtansey,  your hdd die>?
[04:52] <caner> clusty : is there a command to see a list of suspended procceses. i think i must have collected a bunch. i better kill them ?
[04:52] <djtansey> i tried to log in and it said "your username is X, but /home/X doesn't exist. would you like to use /root?"
[04:52] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[04:52] <puppy-user-06som> when i load a gnome session, it halts after the gnome loading banner is shown, before any programs are loaded
[04:53] <kyncani_> salkot: ctrl-alt-f1 to go to console number 1. The graphical desktop can be accessed back with alt-f7
[04:53] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM, Ubuntu should be fine for an HTPC, as for vmware Ubuntu-desktop doesn't come by default with gcc kernel headers etc ( though they can all be installed with sudo apt-get install build-essential ) so you might have a problem installing vmware-tools if you don't install build-essential first, there are also pre built vmware images for Ubuntu
[04:53] <clusty> caner, yes
[04:53] <djtansey> scam: i doubt it. was just doing a regular reboot. and it seems that i have access to everything else on my HD, though it isn't listed in mount. but i can run gdm, xchat, etc. i could even install xchat.
[04:53] <pvl> anyone mind helping me with my microphone? i tried getting it to record but now i cant even load the record app bc my sound settings are invalid
[04:53] <clusty> caner, do a "ps auxw"
[04:53] <clusty> list of all processes
[04:53] <fenix> saludos alguien a trabajado con moin moin
[04:53] <kyncani_> salkot: graphical desktop tends to be unstable and need reboot during/after big and numerous updates
[04:53] <caner> clusty : thank you
[04:54] <djtansey> scam: my machine only shows the following mounted -- varrun, varlock, procbususb, udev, devshm, lrm. any advice?
[04:54] <clusty> caner, maybe a "ps auxw| grep <your user>" to get stuff you started
[04:54] <salkot> kyncani_, ok, thanks
[04:54] <kyncani_> np
[04:54] <caner> clusty : yes thats better i think
[04:54] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm trying to use ffmpeg to create an mpeg video from a .wav audio stream and a jpeg to use as simply a background image. I know it can be done, but I don't remember how
[04:54] <pvl> is there a way to restore sound settings?
[04:54] <clusty> caner, just starting?
[04:54] <clusty> :D
[04:55] <djtansey> scam: sorry -- x chat crapped  out when i searched for a channel
[04:55] <clusty> OrgulloKmoore, trying to figure out something similar myself :D
[04:55] <KlrSpz> i'm a gentoo user looking for a reasonable deployment method for my HTPC, and was wondering how people feel about UBUNTU for such a method... also, how does ubuntu act in a VMWare in regards to "sampling" the OS?
[04:55] <OrgulloKmoore> clusty> really, what for?
[04:55] <clusty> OrgulloKmoore, with mencoder, but its tedious
[04:55] <fenix> saludos alguien a trabajado con moin moin
[04:55] <OrgulloKmoore> I had done it before...but I forgot how
[04:55] <OrgulloKmoore> someone here showed me
[04:55] <Jordan_U> KlrSpz, , Ubuntu should be fine for an HTPC, as for vmware Ubuntu-desktop doesn't come by default with gcc kernel headers etc ( though they can all be installed with sudo apt-get install build-essential ) so you might have a problem installing vmware-tools if you don't install build-essential first, there are also pre built vmware images for Ubuntu
[04:55] <caner> clusty : yes, yet another dumb begginner :)
[04:56] <clusty> caner, did not say that :D
[04:56] <clusty> caner, did not even think it :D
[04:56] <ahmadsaifan> What is a good instant messenger for a hotmail account????????????
[04:56] <tritium> KlrSpz: mythtv on ubuntu is great.  With the release of 7.10, there will even be a new release: mythbuntu
[04:56] <Rowan> does anyone else get firefox randomly crashing and freezing?
[04:56] <Rowan> ahmadsaifan: aMSN
[04:56] <OrgulloKmoore> ahmadsaifan> gaim
[04:56] <tritium> ahmadsaifan: or gaim
[04:56] <clusty> ahmadsaifan, pidgin
[04:56] <Rowan> http://amsn-project.net
[04:56] <OrgulloKmoore> it's called something else now
[04:56] <ahmadsaifan> Where can i find aMSN
[04:56] <OrgulloKmoore> yeah, tat
[04:56] <OrgulloKmoore> that*
[04:56] <Rowan> or use my debs at http://projektphp.com/amsn
[04:57] <clusty> ahmadsaifan, is next gaim
[04:57] <OrgulloKmoore> or there's kopete
[04:57] <rebel4lyfe> gaim here, can not get amsn to run right yet....
[04:57] <caner> clusty : oh sorry for my poor english. but thats ok even if you meant it. i am a beg.
[04:57] <fenix> saludos alguien a trabajado con moin moin
[04:57] <KlrSpz> Jordan_U, hmm ok... i'm wanting to get the full install experience, so i might have to look into the build-essential stuff
[04:57] <tritium> !es | fenix
[04:57] <ubotu> fenix: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:57] <ahmadsaifan> ok thanks guys
[04:57] <FactTech> Question: Anybody have any recommendations on which channel is best for asking about really old network cards (ISA interface)?
[04:57] <ahmadsaifan> ill take a look
[04:57] <Rowan> http://projektphp.com/amsn
[04:57] <bruenig> KlrSpz, good idea, very liberating to know how to compile believe me
[04:57] <KlrSpz> :) well gentoo has taught me a LOT
[04:57] <ProN00b> FactTech, wtf oO
[04:58] <bruenig> FactTech, #reallyoldnetworkcards?
[04:58] <puppy-user-06som> what exactly what is loaded in the standard gnome session that isn't loaded in the failsafe?
[04:58] <tritium> KlrSpz: you can fetch and build any package from source, if that is your preferenec
[04:58] <FactTech> bruenig Would be nice if it worked that way. :)
[04:58] <tritium> preference, even
[04:58] <djtansey> can anyone help me -- my machine rebooted and gives me a functional system even though it says home/* is gone and 'mount' doesn't show /dev/sda (my hd) mounted.
[04:58] <bruenig> djtansey, mount mounts partitions not drives
[04:58] <ahmadsaifan> i found aMSN on add/remove programs. same program?
[04:58] <ProN00b> FactTech, i don't think ubuntu would run on pc's that still got an isa interface...
[04:59] <djtansey> bruenig: I know. i mean it has none of the /dev/sda* partitions
[04:59] <bruenig> djtansey, not in /etc/mtab?
[04:59] <Rowan> ahmadsaifan, its version .6 or something
[04:59] <Rowan> its not as good as .7
[04:59] <djtansey> bruenig: it doesn't have anything for / -- let me chcek
[04:59] <FactTech> ProN00b Well, Xubuntu 6.10 runs, just slowly.
[04:59] <award09> is there an encrypted way to access a ftp server if it refuses ssh/sftp connections?
[04:59] <Rowan> i'd recommend getting the Release Candidate 1 from their website
[04:59] <arnoldo> is the nvidia 8300 GS supported yet?
[04:59] <djtansey> bruenig: nope.
[04:59] <bruenig> FactTech, probably need to compile your own kernel
[05:00] <bruenig> djtansey, never heard of that happening
[05:00] <sport> i need help setting up my public FTP it works great w/ lan ip but not at all from the outside. i changed the port to 65432 and forwarded that it again works great in lan but not from my ip. here is my proftpd conf file http://cl1p.net/helpsport
[05:00] <arnoldo> i installed feisty and i don't think i'm getting hardware rendering support
[05:00] <pvl> sport you might need to set up an anonmyos account
[05:00] <FactTech> bruenig I got Xubuntu 6.10 installed on the machine, and it runs. The network card wasn't detected, though. I tracked down some info on it and found that I can get it recognized with a modprobe command. But what next?
[05:00] <arnoldo> i followed the binary driver howto for nvidia, but i don't see the 8300 GS getting detected
[05:01] <sport> pvl it wont connect or find the ip. idk if that makes a difference
[05:01] <arnoldo> i'd appreciate some help
[05:01] <djtansey> bruenig: neither have i (in 10+ years of using linux). mount lists /proc, /sys, /var/run, /var/lock, /proc/bus/usb, /dev, /dev/shm, /dev/pts, /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-lowlatency/volatile, /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc
[05:01] <ProN00b> FactTech, well, if its recognized, where is the problem ?
[05:01] <Jordan_U> arnoldo, Does Restricted Manager show anything?
[05:01] <pvl> sport did u say u can access it from another computer?
[05:01] <bruenig> arnoldo, did you edit xorg.conf?
[05:01] <sport> pvl any computer on the lan yes
[05:02] <arnoldo> Jordan_U: er, oh, i should probably join #kubuntu
[05:02] <nunofgs> I upgraded the motherboard and processor on my ubuntu machine and now it randomly freezes every 1-3 hours. Doesn't even respond to ping. Is there anything particular I needed to do since I switched from AMD to an Intel processor?
[05:02] <Paradox34690> hey all... stupid question that's NOT Ubuntu related... what's the command for irc to show a listing of other channels available?
[05:02] <sport> pvl only w/ the lan ip also
[05:02] <matthew_> i am trying to install ubuntu on my friends old imac G3,  when i pop in the installation disc it loads for a while then an error message pops up telling me "you are required to change your password immediately(root enforced).  i dont know the password is there anyway around this?
[05:02] <KlrSpz> Paradox34690: /list
[05:02] <pvl> sport u might have set up a shared folder. with what program did u set it up?
[05:02] <FactTech> ProN00b I think there is more configuration to do, I just don't know what. The card gets an IRQ assigned after modprobe, so I assume it can work. But it doesn't come up with an IP address assignment or anything.
[05:02] <javes> good luck
[05:02] <Paradox34690>  KlrSpz: Thanks!
[05:03] <sport> pvl i used proftpd
[05:03] <sport> pvl i have a samba network shared folder if thats what you mean
[05:03] <ProN00b> FactTech, anything on ifconfig ?
[05:03] <pvl> sport a shared folder isnt the same as an ftp
[05:03] <pvl> sport, that is what i mean
[05:04] <sport> pvl: maybe im shooting for fantasy. can i set up a ftp that anyone connected to the internet and download from?
[05:04] <FactTech> ProN00b I don't know. I will go find out.
[05:04] <pvl> sport yes
[05:04] <djtansey> bruenig: just mounted /dev/sda2 and 4 to /media/hdd2 and 4 -- mounted fine. my files are there. any advice?
[05:05] <bruenig> djtansey, its pretty baffling
[05:05] <Ubuntuuser34> is there a popular irc chanel for vmware server?
[05:05] <kyncani> matthew_: you should not be asked for any password during the livecd boot sequence. Make sure the cd is burned correctly, there is an option for that at the startup menu i think
[05:05] <mr56k> if someone has never used linux before and are coming from a really old mac... Should i install kde or gnome
[05:05] <djtansey> bruenig: yeah. never heard of it. know any big wigs here who might have a clue?
[05:05] <sport> pvl how? i have a functioning ftp "site" that works on lan. how to i put it out to the public?
[05:05] <kyncani> mr56k: try both and choose for yourself
[05:05] <bruenig> djtansey, the more knowing who participate often are Pelo and Jordan_U for the most part
[05:05] <mr56k> its not for me
[05:05] <pvl> sport what ip adress is it using
[05:05] <nunofgs> I upgraded the motherboard and processor on my ubuntu machine and now it randomly freezes every 1-3 hours. Doesn't even respond to ping. Is there anything particular I needed to do since I switched from AMD to an Intel processor?
[05:05] <mr56k> i use gnome
[05:05] <Ubuntuuser34> You won't have problems with either kde or gnome
[05:06] <djtansey> bruenig: thanks.
[05:06] <kyncani> mr56k: i use kde
[05:06] <sport> pvl the lan is 192.168.1.108 if thats what u mean?
[05:06] <kyncani> :)
[05:06] <pvl> sport do us an im client? it is much easier for me to explain there then here
[05:06] <Ubuntuuser34> you can install gnome into kubuntu and kde into ubuntu in the package manager and choose which to loginto when starting up
[05:06] <mr56k> so one is not easier then the other etc?? They are novice on computers and I don't/want/have time to train or show them
[05:07] <mr56k> yea i might do that. Just install both
[05:07] <puppy-user-06som> how can i see what the metacity loader loads (or is there a log for it somewhere?)?
[05:07] <Rowan> anyone know whats up with this => http://pastebin.ca/656463
[05:07] <sport> pvl okay, my msn gaim is jarrodmolsen@hotmail.com
[05:07] <kyncani> mr56k: kde is more popular. Don't know about easier as it is really a matter of taste there
[05:07] <Ubuntuuser34> Have it all KDE gnome and xfce right from the package manager after install
[05:07] <mr56k> kde is more popular
[05:07] <mr56k> ?
[05:08] <moparisthebest> thats a strange one Rowan
[05:08] <kyncani> mr56k: according to various survey
[05:08] <KlrSpz> xfce ftw
[05:08] <pvl> sport hold on i doubt i have an msn account
[05:08] <mr56k> k
[05:08] <moparisthebest> it shouldnt be trying to connect to localhost anyway should it?
[05:08] <Rowan> i tried sudo apt-get update -f
[05:08] <pvl> sport this is jsut a complicated manner and its easier of a messenger
[05:08] <Ubuntuuser34> Gnome does a better job of dealing with things I plug in the usb. Probably a problem specific to my chipset though
[05:08] <Rowan> i know thats why i think its weird :\
[05:08] <cafuego> Rowan: That won't do anything.
[05:08] <bruenig> Ubuntuuser34, gnome doesn't handle that, hal does which is not nearly DE specific
[05:08] <kyncani> mr56k: like 50% more users i believe
[05:08] <Rowan> maybe if i turn off the mediabuntu repositories...
[05:08] <sport> pvl can we privite message in irc?
[05:09] <Rowan> nope.. hmm.
[05:09] <pvl> sport i believe i did send u 1, look at the left near the server?
[05:09] <cafuego> Rowan: I think you have an http proxy set, and set to localhost:4001
[05:09] <FactTech> ProN00b Nope, ifconfig shows only a local loopback at 127.0.0.1
[05:09] <blah569_> Are you alloud to edit Ubuntu as long as you give full credit to Ubuntu?
[05:09] <djtansey> Jordan_U: bruenig said you were knowledgeable.  I have a problem with ubuntu booting without loading my HD (according to mount and /etc/mtab) -- but somehow i can access one of my partitions (i can load gdm, etc) but not my /home partition. guesses?
[05:09] <efram> woo, the newb actually made it =D
[05:09] <moparisthebest> ah, like left over from using tor cafuego ? thats probably it
[05:09] <Rowan> ah yeah i installed tor lately
[05:09] <bruenig> djtansey, and cafuego, he knows stuff
[05:10] <ProN00b> FactTech, and ifconfig -a ?
[05:10] <djtansey> bruenig: thanks.
[05:10] <Ubuntuuser34> bruenig is the hal different b't gnome and kde? Kde cann't find my cannon camera nor a printer
[05:10] <cafuego> Serves $user right for using tor.
[05:10] <blah569_>  Are you alloud to edit Ubuntu as long as you give full credit to Ubuntu?
[05:10] <mightymball> ok i just finish dowloading ubuntu
[05:10] <moparisthebest> thats probably it Rowan
[05:10] <cntrlx> Could someone help me install Automatix within Debian 4.0?
[05:10] <mightymball> know just install it
[05:10] <djtansey> cafuego: bruenig said you were knowledgeable.  I have a problem with ubuntu booting without loading my HD (according to mount and /etc/mtab) -- but somehow i can access one of my partitions (i can load gdm, etc) but not my /home partition. guesses?
[05:10] <cafuego> djtansey: Are you using Gutsy and lvm?
[05:10] <moparisthebest> just burn it to a cd, reboot and have fun mightymball
[05:10] <Rowan> still refuses after removing tor and privoxy
[05:10] <bruenig> Ubuntuuser34, no, hal is not different, hal is standalone, it is started at boot
[05:10] <efram> installing is the easy part ^
[05:10] <Rowan> let me restart
[05:10] <kyncani> !automatix | cntrlx
[05:10] <ubotu> cntrlx: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:10] <efram> was for me atleast :P
[05:10] <blah569_>  Are you alloud to edit Ubuntu as long as you give full credit to Ubuntu?
[05:10] <KlrSpz> how do you know if you're getting gutsy vs fiesty vs etc?
[05:10] <mightymball> lol
[05:10] <djtansey> cafuego: feisty -- only "odd" thing i have is backports enabled
[05:10] <Smackban> !iso | Smackban
[05:10] <mightymball> i have the ISO
[05:11] <mightymball> so i can pout it in daemon tools
[05:11] <pvl> sport, right click my name and click on open dialog window
[05:11] <moparisthebest> no mightymball
[05:11] <cafuego> djtansey: Hmm ok. lvm fails to run at all on the latest gutsy kernel here.
[05:11] <moparisthebest> you have to burn it to a cd
[05:11] <Smackban> !iso
[05:11] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:11] <FactTech> ProN00b ifconfig -a shows an eth0 device at IRQ10 with a real-looking HW Addr, but no IP address shown.
[05:11] <moparisthebest> once you restart windows nor daemon tools will be running
[05:11] <sport> pvl i had already tried
[05:11] <cafuego> djtansey: SO, other partitions aren't mounting? Can';t mount them by hand, or unmount them it mtab says they're already mounted?
[05:11] <mightymball> lol do i need a cd bruner
[05:11] <mightymball> urner
[05:11] <moparisthebest> generally you need a cd burner to burn cds ;)
[05:11] <blah569_> Ugh, lol, can someone please answer my question?  I'm a web developer, I don't feel like learning how to build my own OS, so I want to edit Ubuntu.  Since its open source, isn't that possible?  I'm going to give full credit to Ubuntu.
[05:11] <mightymball> WTF
[05:11] <mightymball> srry
[05:12] <mightymball> i dont have one
[05:12] <moparisthebest> then you need to order a install cd mightymball
[05:12] <ProN00b> FactTech, try ifup'ing it
[05:12] <mightymball> no oen told me u had to burn it to a cd
[05:12] <moparisthebest> they are free
[05:12] <djtansey> cafuego: i can mount them by hand. they work fine. but they aren't mounted by default (though i have access to everything on my / partition)
[05:12] <moparisthebest> hold on and Ill get you a URL
[05:12] <moparisthebest> mightymball, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[05:12] <ProN00b> blah569_, judging from the words you uttered you don't seem capable of making your own os
[05:12] <newbie3> anybody using nca_auth on squid?
[05:13] <newbie3> my authentication can't run
[05:13] <moparisthebest> blah569_, yes that is possible, you still need a good level of knowledge though
[05:13] <FactTech> ProN00b OK... I'll go read the man page on that and give it a shot. I appreciate the pointers -- I rarely know how to start with these things, and #ubuntu always comes through with at least an orientation.
[05:13] <Jordan_U> blah569_, You can do whatever you want with it as long as you don't distribute it, if you distribute it there are multiple licenses for different components
[05:13] <blah569_> Ah
[05:13] <sport> pvl?
[05:13] <mightymball> order them
[05:13] <Rowan> i still get this => http://pastebin.ca/656466
[05:13] <drthunder> what is the default font in ubuntu?
[05:13] <mightymball> how long will it take than
[05:13] <moparisthebest> yes mightymball, just order them
[05:13] <blah569_> What would be a good IDE to do this?
[05:13] <pvl> sport, yes im trying to get an msn account
[05:13] <moparisthebest> a few weeks mightymball
[05:13] <newbie3> hello?
[05:14] <djtansey> cafuego: i just ran forced e2fsck on my /home partition (can't do it on / partition because it says it is mounted.) it had marked it as clean, but i forced it anyways because dmesg said  maximal mount count reached -- though i wasn't given the option at boot to run it (nor did it run automatically)
[05:14] <sport> pvl thx
[05:14] <mightymball> will it cost anything to shipo them
[05:14] <moparisthebest> maybe sooner, thats how long it took mine though
[05:14] <sgtmattbaker> hi
[05:14] <newbie3> anybody using squid?
[05:14] <moparisthebest> no mightymball, it is entirely free
[05:14] <moparisthebest> shipping and all
[05:14] <cafuego> djtansey: Is /etc/fstab set to use UUID for the partitions?
[05:14] <mightymball> wow lol
[05:14] <Jordan_U> djtansey, Is this a fresh install or did this suddenly happen?
[05:14] <moparisthebest> nice eh?
[05:14] <djtansey> cafuego: yup
[05:14] <djtansey> Jordan_U: happened suddenly. this install is from when feisty came out
[05:14] <cafuego> newbie3: Just ask your squid question.
[05:15] <newbie3> i used ncsa_auth and it can't run
[05:15] <newbie3> cafuego?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> djtansey, So /home is the only partition which is not mounting?
[05:16] <Barry> What program can i use to upload/download music for my ipod?
[05:16] <Gokee2> Anyone know if I can use ssh-copy-id on a port other then 22?
[05:16] <sin2gen2> Barry:  gtkpod
[05:17] <djtansey> Jordan_U: mount doesn't list / as mounted, but i have access to that data somehow. it doesn't list anything for / (nor does /etc/mtab) i mounted both manually to subfolders in /media and both mounted fine.
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Gokee2, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to as long as the target machine is listening on whatever port you choose
[05:17] <Rowan> i looked it up on the googlewebs and i think its because of "anon-proxy"
[05:17] <rebel4lyfe> Thank You for the point to aMSN, it now works which is more than I had accomplished so far
[05:17] <FactTech> ProN00b ifup seems straightforward enough, but running "ifup eth0" gives an error: "failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied." Trying "sudo ifup -v eth0" returns "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0".
[05:17] <Jordan_U> djtansey, That is beyond bizarre
[05:17] <djtansey> Jordan_U -- a message i sent to cafuego: i just ran forced e2fsck on my /home partition (can't do it on / partition because it says it is mounted.) it had marked it as clean, but i forced it anyways because dmesg said  maximal mount count reached -- though i wasn't given the option at boot to run it (nor did it run automatically)
[05:18] <Gokee2> Jordan_U, I can`t seem to get it to work or find a list of options I can use..  -p portnum does not work
[05:18] <djtansey> Jordan_U: you're telling me... i had a CF card plugged in, so i thought maybe that messed something up. but i rebooted without it in and it did the same thing. I'm going to reboot now that i've run e2fsck and see what happens.
[05:18] <mightymball> which one do i order
[05:18] <sin2gen2> Barry:  rhythmbox is sometimes called a "itunes clone".  it supports ipods as well
[05:18] <FactTech> ProN00b Am I correct in thinking that the card was detected by modprobe? It wouldn't have an IRQ assignment if nothing was found, right?
[05:19] <ProN00b> FactTech, well, it showing up in ifconfig at all is a good sign
[05:19] <Jordan_U> djtansey, You can force an fsck at boot by running "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[05:20] <Rowan> about the repositories
[05:20] <palintheus> how would I delete multiple files with different names, but same extension that are in different sub-directories directories of a folder? Preferably with CLI. I asked about a 1/2 hr ago, but thought I would give it another shot before hitting the forums
[05:20] <Rowan> removing anon-proxy then restarting worked just fine
[05:20] <Ubuntuuser34> What do you use to generate an .ISO from a CD?
[05:21] <ProN00b> FactTech, well, try asigning an ip and netmask manually with "ifconfig eth0 address 1.1.1.1 netmask 1.1.1.1" and then "ifconfig eth0 up" (replace 1.1.1.1 with apropriate values)
[05:21] <squarebottle> My computer crashed while it was installing something, and now that I've turned it on again, it seems that I can't use apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic, or anything to install stuff.
[05:21] <mightymball> ok there
[05:21] <mightymball> i ordered it so know i am set
[05:21] <mightymball> and why do u have to burn it
[05:21] <FactTech> ProN00b OK, I'll give it a shot.
[05:21] <ProN00b> FactTech, or ask someone else how to get the modprobe to work automatically on boot so ubuntu configures it for you
[05:21] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  try apt-get install -f
[05:21] <mightymball> i have deaomon tools
[05:21] <mightymball> virtual  drive
[05:22] <FactTech> ProN00b Is it possible to execute a modprobe in the middle of an install? It's a fresh install and I don't mind redoing it.
[05:22] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:22] <nugod> mightymball: because you need to boot the cd not access it in windows
[05:22] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: No luck
[05:22] <ProN00b> FactTech, install of what ?
[05:22] <mightymball> i have a start .exe
[05:22] <kyncani> FactTech: you can modprobe whenever you want
[05:22] <mightymball> in the files
[05:22] <FactTech> ProN00b Install of Xubuntu 6.10.
[05:23] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  sorry, try it with sudo
[05:23] <mightymball> but u still need the cd
[05:23] <squarebottle> I did.
[05:23] <nugod> mightymball: yes... that just opens up a little window that lets you install some opensource windows programs
[05:23] <ProN00b> FactTech, it shouldn't matter
[05:23] <FactTech> kyncani Even during a text-mode install of the OS?
[05:23] <mightymball> lol i got money if i ships
[05:23] <mightymball> just 10 bucks lol
[05:23] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: I tried your thing to, and it gave me this output
[05:23] <kyncani> FactTech: whenever you want
[05:23] <squarebottle> james@higaonna:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:23] <squarebottle> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 1:
[05:23] <squarebottle>  EOF after field name `'
[05:23] <mightymball> so its ok
[05:23] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[05:23] <mightymball> will they put it in my mailboxx cus school starts soon
[05:24] <etyrnal> i have a Dell PowerEdge 2300 dual 500MHz machine with Ubuntu 6.06 installed - only one processor shows up, what do i have to do to get theother processor to be utilzed ?
[05:24] <nugod> mightymball: it is only a cd so it should fit nicely in your mailbox
[05:24] <mightymball> goood
[05:24] <djtansey> Jordan_U: nope -- same thing. this time i mounted /dev/sda4 to /home and then logged into gdm. that way i could load my own profile (before i had to create a new user form the command line before logging in)
[05:24] <Jordan_U> !paste | squarebottle
[05:24] <ubotu> squarebottle: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:24] <mightymball> lol 4 to 6 weeks
[05:24] <Jordan_U> djtansey, You can force an fsck at boot by running "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[05:24] <mightymball> ahahahahahahahahahaahahha
[05:24] <mightymball> thats a long time
[05:24] <FactTech> kyncani Is there a way to get access to a terminal during the OS install?
[05:25] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Oh come on. You realize that the output of !paste was longer than what I posted. :<
[05:25] <mightymball> i wish i had a cd burner lol
[05:25] <mightymball> can u use nero
[05:25] <nugod> mightymball: if you know someone with a burner you could ask them to burn it for you and save a little time
[05:25] <mightymball> yeah my aunt i think
[05:25] <cafuego> djtansey: Can you do a boot to recovery mode, so you get decent text debug output? It might log why it's not automounting /home
[05:25] <nugod> mightymball: nero will let you burn it but you need a burner for the physical process of burning
[05:25] <kyncani> FactTech: loop through the available consoles (alt-f1, alt-f2, ...)
[05:25] <mightymball> lol
[05:25] <mightymball> dang
[05:25] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  you can try to move /var/lib/dpkg/available (back it up) and try it again.  apt might just recreate it
[05:25] <djtansey> Jordan_U: will do. one more thing i noticed when i logged in: kinit-something-or-other name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/916...55) = sda3(8,3). that's my swap partition
[05:25] <mightymball> will this sucks i get it d/l and than i need a cd butrner lol
[05:26] <FactTech> kyncani OK... I know how to do that. I'll give it a shot. thanks!
[05:26] <djtansey> cafuego: will do. be back soon.
[05:26] <mightymball> so i can delte the d/l than and wait for the cds
[05:26] <kyncani> FactTech: np
[05:26] <mightymball> cd
[05:26] <kyncani> :)
[05:26] <pvl> sport what is ur msn id?
[05:26] <nugod> mightymball: if you choose to you can delete the download
[05:26] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, It wasn't as much that it was a problem as that many times people paste a few lines then flood later, I was just making sure since we don't have a floodbot ( although we should... )
[05:26] <palintheus> mightymball: the 4-6 weeks is more like 6-8 I've ordered those so I can give away professional looking cds
[05:26] <sport> pvl jarrodmolsen@hotmail.com
[05:26] <Dominus> hi2all
[05:26] <mightymball> 6-8
[05:27] <mightymball> AWWWWWWW
[05:27] <mightymball> where do they ship from
[05:27] <palintheus> mightymball: overseas
[05:27] <cafuego> 'they"?
[05:27] <mightymball> OMG
[05:27] <cafuego> the ubuntus?
[05:27] <cafuego> They ship from Holland.
[05:27] <mightymball> its gonna take 3 months
[05:27] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: The funny thing is that I tried to open it with gedit, and, well, it wouldn't.
[05:27] <palintheus> no just 2 ;-)
[05:27] <squarebottle> I'll try moving it
[05:27] <mightymball> i live in usa
[05:27] <mightymball> florida
[05:27] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Can you pastebin your /var/lib/dpkg/available
[05:27] <palintheus> mightymball: me too
[05:27] <palintheus> OK
[05:28] <nugod> mightymball: where do you live in the us? heck I can send you a disc if necessary
[05:28] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  yeah.  i have had apt errors with /var dir files like yours
[05:28] <cafuego> mightymball: Sometimes it only takes a few weeks, but they're probably overloaded, with software freedom day coming up.
[05:28] <mightymball> florida
[05:28] <palintheus> mightymball: I forgot I had some coming one time and was surprised to find them in the mailbox
[05:28] <mightymball> nugod u got a
[05:28] <mightymball> msn
[05:28] <mightymball> lol
[05:28] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  sometimes i have to remove the file, and apt jut recreates it
[05:28] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: I would pastebin it for ya, but I can't even open it with gedit. "not able to detect character coding"
[05:28] <nugod> i do... let me see if I remember the PW... havent used it in awhile
[05:28] <Strider> hi, can anyone tell me how to get my system tray back - the applet is not being offered to me
[05:28] <mightymball> if any one lives near florida  send me a disk lol
[05:28] <palintheus> cafuego: for a LoCo?
[05:29] <cafuego> palintheus: No, special event, expo for high schools.
[05:29] <Fezzler> Trying to connect my Tandy TRS-80 Model 102 to my Ubuntu PC.  When I run from Terminal a "./teeny-linux" program it says it can't open /dev/tty0 and to check permission.  Owner is Root.  What to do?
[05:29] <mightymball> i will seell it on ebay for like 300 bucks lol
[05:29] <Ubuntuuser34> Can you resize ext3 partitions?
[05:29] <palintheus> cafuego: ah, I can email one from OK, you may get it in about a week or week and half
[05:29] <nugod> mightymball: my msn is nugod@nugodl.net
[05:29] <Strider> heheh I had a trs-80
[05:29] <palintheus> mightymball: not cafuego
[05:29] <nugod> oops... nugod@nugod.net
[05:29] <nugod> dang typos
[05:30] <Fezzler> sudo ./teeny-linux runs program but still doesn't open /dev/ttyd0
[05:30] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: Any other suggestions for how I should try to view it so as to pastebin it?
[05:30] <mightymball> huh cafuego
[05:30] <mightymball> what u mean
[05:30] <cafuego> palintheus: You can't email me a cd, the smtp server rejects attachments over 1 atom in size ;-)
[05:30] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Try "sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update"
[05:30] <riotkittie> is ndiswrapper included in feisty, or am i going to have to do some  downloading ?
[05:30] <palintheus> mightymball: sorry i typed out the wrong name, and yes I said email......
[05:30] <palintheus> oops
[05:31] <sport> pvl ?
[05:31] <pvl> sport i created account and it wont let me log in
[05:31] <mightymball> there nugod
[05:31] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  i am pretty sure that if you move that file and run sudo apt-get update, it will be recreated
[05:31] <nugod> hehe after you email his could you fax me one? ;)
[05:31] <mightymball> i added u
[05:31] <mightymball> on msn
[05:31] <Strider> can anyone please tell me how to get my system tray back - adding the applet isn't successful, unless, I just am confused as to what the applet may be called?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, It is obviously corrupted, hopefully /var/lib/dpkg/status isn't
[05:31] <sport> pvl singing the microsoft blues?
[05:31] <Strider> I have a gnome desktop
[05:31] <cafuego> Strider: 'Notication area' I think
[05:31] <riotkittie> Strider > elaborate on system tray. what was in it?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, /var/lib/dpkg/available can be easily rebuilt ( with the commands I gave )
[05:31] <cafuego> Notification even
[05:32] <pvl> sport, apperently
[05:32] <nugod> mightymball: I dont see you... shouldnt it prompt me or something?
[05:32] <cafuego> Strider: The grey bar iself is a 'panel'  (gnome-panel)
[05:32] <mightymball> yeah
[05:32] <mightymball> here is mine
[05:32] <mightymball> mightymball@hotmail.com
[05:32] <Strider> right now, amarok is running in the system tray - but I cannot get into it, my panel is alive and well, but no system tray
[05:32] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: /var/lib/dpkg/status opens with gedit fine, so I don't think it's corrupted.
[05:33] <Stooth> hi all, i'm trying to setup ubuntu in vmware player but freezing at "Uncompressing Linux... OK, boot the kernel."  found this site to help http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=419923... QUESTION is I'm using sudo apt-get install linux-686 but I keep getting "temporary failure resolving security.ubuntu.com"-- does anyone know why this would be happening (is their server down or do I need to change something?)  Thanks! 
[05:33] <riotkittie> Strider: jmo, but if your panel was alive and well, you'd be able to get into amarok :P
[05:33] <nugod> ok. there it is
[05:33] <riotkittie> Strider: have you tried killing gnome-panel and letting it respawn?
[05:33] <Strider> I created the panel
[05:33] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Then did "sudo dpkg --clear-avail && sudo apt-get update" rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
[05:34] <Strider> I got rid of the one that was included in fiesty, and made my own panel, but I cannot figure out how to add a system tray
[05:34] <Jordan_U> !generic | Stooth
[05:34] <ubotu> Stooth: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[05:34] <gpfreitas> I need to install the Java plugin (for Firefox) for a friend who can't access the Internet. Is there an APT command that downloads the package and *all* its dependencies to a specified folder? He needs Java to authenticate with his ISP.
[05:34] <riotkittie> Strider: define "system tray", please.
[05:34] <bruenig> gpfreitas, java plugin doesn't have any dependencies
[05:35] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Well, I don't know if it rebuilt it, per sey, but it opens in gedit... but it's completely blank.
[05:35] <bruenig> gpfreitas, except jre I guess, but technically the java plugin just symlinks something that is already in the jre package
[05:35] <Rockinghorse> gpfreitas: best to hit the firefox/mozilla site
[05:35] <riotkittie> i mean, i know what a system tray is... but elaborate on what it is you want in yours,
[05:35] <pvl> sport, are you logged in?/
[05:35] <gpfreitas> bruenig: I guess it does, because I tried to install it with dpkg -i and it complained about dependencies.
[05:35] <bruenig> gpfreitas, so you could get jre and symlink it yourself probably
[05:35] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, It shouldn't be, does "sudo apt-get update" give any errors?
[05:35] <Strider> amarok, said it would go into the system tray and disappeared, I have not system tray that I can see - amarok is playing but I can not get to it
[05:35] <sport> pvl yes..
[05:35] <sport> pvl ill add you
[05:35] <riotkittie> Strider : are you using... alltray, or something like that?
[05:36] <sin2gen2> gpfreitas:  the packages will appear in /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:36] <gpfreitas> Rockinghorse: True. They probably have a standalone version. Good tip. Thanks! And thanks bruenig. Bye everybody.
[05:36] <Strider> no
[05:36] <crabgrass> after i edit fstab, do i need to 'apply' it, or does the machine read from the file itself when it boots?
[05:36] <pvl> sport my sn is pavel989
[05:36] <Strider> alltray?
[05:36] <Rockinghorse> Strider: does alt/tab get u to it?
[05:36] <gpfreitas> sin2gen2: I have done an aptitude clean
[05:36] <slavik> crabgrass: did you save changes?
[05:36] <gpfreitas> sin2gen2: thanks anyway.
[05:36] <gpfreitas> Bye everybody.
[05:36] <crabgrass> slavik: you mean control-s ?
[05:36] <Strider> alt-tab does not show it
[05:36] <FactTech> kyncani ProN00b -- Thanks to both of you. I just tried it out in "rescue" mode and managed to get the card detected and configured with DHCP. Worst case scenario is waiting through a reinstall. I really appreciate the guidance.
[05:36] <b0narz> guys
[05:36] <slavik> crabgrass: what are you using to edit it?
[05:36] <Strider> only shows irc - all I am running
[05:36] <crabgrass> slavik: gedit
[05:36] <b0narz> i installed bumbuntu
[05:36] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: The only error it gives is a GPG error. "Signature couldn't be verified because the pub key is not availaible.." which isn't exactly... well, ou know. I don't think that's it.
[05:37] <b0narz> but it doesn't work
[05:37] <faileas> >_>
[05:37] <squarebottle> :P
[05:37] <slavik> crabgrass: in root mode? (sudo/gksudo)
[05:37] <b0narz> halp m3
[05:37] <faileas> what DE is that?
[05:37] <b0narz> prees
[05:37] <Strider> amarok is running in the background now - but I have no handle to it
[05:37] <crabgrass> slavik: yup, gksudo
[05:37] <kyncani> FactTech: thnaks for the feedback :)
[05:37] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Can you install anything now?
[05:37] <Strider> strange
[05:37] <slavik> crabgrass: you're set :), but quick question first, was it scary?
[05:37] <b0narz> cawk
[05:37] <riotkittie> i'm not even running linux at the moment so i'm useless :x
[05:37] <Strider> I can kill it from proc manager
[05:37] <crabgrass> slavik: not really, just commented one line out
[05:37] <FactTech> kyncani That was my first experience with busybox. Does it work just like a regular terminal?
[05:38] <Strider> but that is crazy
[05:38] <crabgrass> slavik: fcsk was getting mad about one uuid refrence, and i'm not even using that drive, so i deicded to remove it
[05:38] <mx> hola
[05:38] <slavik> crabgrass: just as a precaution, I suggest keeping an install CD or latest knoppix cd/dvd around :)
[05:38] <efram> Anyone wanna recommend a good and good looking IRC client? instead of xchat?
[05:38] <riotkittie> is ndiswrapper included in feisty, or am i going to need an initial internet connection? anyone?
[05:38] <slavik> fair enough
[05:38] <Strider> I wonder what system tray amarok went into
[05:38] <moparisthebest> efram, xchat is the best i have ever found
[05:38] <slavik> crabgrass: that goes for windows systems, too :P
[05:38] <moparisthebest> but not the gnome xchat
[05:38] <Rockinghorse> efram: Konversation is very good
[05:38] <crabgrass> slavik: oh indeed, i have a couple "oh shi-" discs around
[05:38] <efram> moparisthebest: but it looks sooo ugly :0p
[05:39] <crabgrass> slavik: a VERY handy thing to have sometimes, too
[05:39] <squarebottle> Jordan-U: No. I tried to grab gftp as the test, and here's the two-line output for ya:
[05:39] <moparisthebest> thats why efram
[05:39] <slavik> crabgrass: ICSH insurance?
[05:39] <efram> hahah
[05:39] <moparisthebest> you have the GNOME xchat efram
[05:39] <crabgrass> slavik: eh?
[05:39] <kyncani> FactTech: alt-fX gives you real terminal. Busybox, however, provides much less functionality than the real gnu tools (ls, mv, rm, ps, ...)
[05:39] <sin2gen2> efram:  make it transparent :)
[05:39] <moparisthebest> install the GTK xchat
[05:39] <navets> i just installed new compiz-fusion and i dont have titlebars, can anyone help me
[05:39] <efram> ummm lol first time in linux ever! dont know how :P haha
[05:39] <squarebottle> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:39] <squarebottle> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:39] <riotkittie> navets .. open a term and type....   metacity --replace
[05:39] <riotkittie> navets or emerald --replace
[05:40] <efram> sin2gen2: how? :P
[05:40] <sin2gen2> efram:  Settings -> Preferences -> Text Box
[05:40] <riotkittie> navets: or whatever your win manager is
[05:40] <crabgrass> thanks for the help, all, off to see if this works!
[05:40] <drgeb> I finally got my printer working and configured cups. Now on windows or othe machine what I don't understand is the URI needed for accesing this network printer. any idea?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> efram, gaim looks less ugly, but is also not as good at IRC
[05:40] <sin2gen2> efram:  make it a pretty color
[05:40] <navets> riotkittie: ok thanks
[05:40] <riotkittie> irssi is the best irc  client evAr
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[05:40] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Hold on a second. That was my bad. I had another synaptic instance running. I'm going to pastebin the real output
[05:40] <navets> riotkittie: is sthere a way i can find out what my win manager is? i am using kde
[05:41] <Rowan> hey everyone, how do i get KDE without downloading all the kde applications like Konversation and such?
[05:41] <bruenig> !info kde-core
[05:41] <ubotu> kde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[05:41] <efram> sin2gen2:  well tbho I cant even find that.. lol gimmie a sec
[05:41] <kyncani> navets: it's kwin unless you've done something wicked
[05:41] <riotkittie> sorry, i steer clear of kde :P
[05:41] <Rowan> so kde-core will just give met eh graphical interface of KDE and none of the crap?
[05:42] <Rowan> i hate KDE too but i need it for something
[05:42] <cameron_> I can't add a folder in my home folder!
[05:42] <kingpunk> anybody know what its called in compiz fusion when you have the window focus with cursor and the others dodge it? I have the dodge plugin set up, just trying to make it focus with the cursor..
[05:42] <Rowan> it reminds me too much of OS X and Windows and isn't uhh, customizable as much as gnome
[05:42] <navets> kyncani: when i do kwin -replace it doesnt use compiz effects anymore'
[05:42] <kyncani> Rowan: what do you need it for ?
[05:42] <bruenig> !compiz | kingpunk
[05:42] <ubotu> kingpunk: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:42] <sin2gen2> Rowan:  kde comes as a meta package (all the stuff) or each individual piece
[05:42] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Here ya go. http://pastebin.com/d74fa5470
[05:42] <Rowan> kyncani, writing tutorials and needing screenshots
[05:42] <bruenig> Rowan, did you just say kde isn't as customizable as gnome?
[05:42] <efram> sin2gen2: lol I have it transparent.. still ugly hahah =D
[05:42] <kyncani> navets: compiz is another windows manager. You use either kwin or compiz but not both
[05:43] <sin2gen2> efram:  yeah, i suppose so
[05:43] <efram> sin2gen2:  no list of users on the side.. im used to mIRC with scrips :P
[05:43] <riotkittie> ugh. brb. going to see if i can get my stupid usb adapter up and running :\
[05:43] <cameron_> how do I create a folder in my home folder?, I can't write anything into it
[05:43] <navets> kyncani: i am trying to use compiz but titlebars dont show up when i use it
[05:43] <moparisthebest> I think it is just apt-get install xchat efram
[05:43] <kyncani> Rowan: well, you will want the default kde desktop to make tutorial and screenshot i think
[05:43] <bruenig> cameron_, mkdir directory
[05:43] <kingpunk> bruenig: it really isn't a compiz question, its actually just how to make the windows in gnome focus using the cursor instead of click-to-focus.
[05:43] <efram> moparisthebest: yes your right.. :P
[05:43] <sin2gen2> efram:  there can be a user list if that is what you want
[05:43] <kingpunk> i just need somebody to jogg my old brain..
[05:43] <Rowan> kde -This will install the following KDE packages: kde-amusements, kdeaccessibility, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdesdk, kdeutils, kdewebdev, kdevelop3 and the kde-core metapackage
[05:43] <Rowan> kde-core -This will install the core  the bare-minimum required of KDE. That is, kdebase, kdelibs, arts and fontconfig.
[05:43] <kingpunk> ;)
[05:43] <kyncani> navets: compiz may be more stable in gutsy, i suggest you wait till then
[05:44] <bruenig> kingpunk, windows, window manager, compiz window manager, desktop effects, #ubuntu-effects
[05:44] <Rockinghorse> cameron_: is it mounted properly?
[05:44] <Rowan> i think ill just get 'kde' not 'kde-desktop' thats a pain
[05:44] <efram> sin2gen2: ok.. I do :P
[05:44] <kingpunk> interesting enough, thank you for the help.
[05:44] <Stooth> ubotu & Jordan_U: thx for the response, do you mean I should run sudo apt-get install linux-generic?
[05:44] <Fezzler> Trying to connect my Tandy TRS-80 Model 102 to my Ubuntu PC.  When I run from Terminal a "./teeny-linux" program it says it can't open /dev/tty0 and to check permission.  Owner is Root.  What to do?
[05:44] <bruenig> kyncani, that's silly
[05:44] <cameron_> It's my EXT3 partition, sudo mkdir worked, but I wold rather right click, create folder
[05:45] <kyncani> bruenig: how is that ?
[05:45] <sin2gen2> efram:  i am not sure how.  but i have one right over there -->
[05:45] <bruenig> cameron_, ls -dl ~
[05:45] <kyncani> bruenig: i don't use it and i'm fine
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Stooth, Yes ( though it should already be installed )
[05:45] <djtansey> Jordan_U, cafuego: okay. i have logs. forcefsck didn't seem to help. tried a couple of other kernels i have installed. nothing.
[05:45] <bruenig> kyncani, what do you mean more stable in gutsy? software is software, it doesn't matter what is bundled around it in an arbitrary release
[05:45] <efram> sin2gen2:  lol thats what I want hehehe :P
[05:45] <w30> yarneb-=
[05:45] <Rockinghorse> ah, check the permissions on the folder ls -l /home/me are they writeable for your user?
[05:46] <bruenig> Rockinghorse, you forgot the -d
[05:46] <sin2gen2> efram:  i have no idea.  poke around in the settings
[05:46] <Rockinghorse> yes, I meant that ls -dl
[05:46] <Strider> my situation is easy to reproduce - amarok goes into a system tray unless you specify "quit" but in gnome desktop, it just disappears - can anyone figure out if gnome desktop has a system tray or not? some say yes, some say no --
[05:46] <cameron_> I'm the root...
[05:46] <bruenig> Strider, notification area
[05:46] <efram> sin2gen2:  yah doing that now.. found the list.. just dont know how to move it yet
[05:46] <OverLord> salut les francais !
[05:46] <cameron_> I checked the permissions, and I have read/write access, it just isn't choosable
[05:46] <Strider> where is the notification area?
[05:47] <kyncani> bruenig: and that must be why desktop effects are not enabled per default in feisty, right ?
[05:47] <Stooth> Jordan_U, yea it's telling me "Couldn't find package linux-generic" -- have you heard of this freeze at "Uncompressing Linux... OK, boot the kernel." before?
[05:47] <bruenig> Strider, it is an applet
[05:47] <Tama00> this may sound newbie-ish but what are some cool monitoring computer stuff just eye candy.. its to impress people who think vista is all eye candy
[05:47] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Any more ideas, or is it a lost cause?
[05:47] <bruenig> kyncani, desktop effects aren't usable by everyone, why would you enable them by default
[05:47] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, What happens when you run "update-menus" ?
[05:47] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  are you still stuck with apt?
[05:47] <Rowan> here is partially why i hate kde => http://projektphp.com/kde.html
[05:47] <Rowan> so many K's is annoying
[05:47] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: Yes. :<
[05:48] <Strider> thanks
[05:48] <RickH> What would cause my .openoffice directory off /home/user/ to be changed to root:root?
[05:48] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Nothing happens. Should I run it in terminal with sudo privs?
[05:48] <djtansey> Jordan_U, cafuego: I don't see anything out of the ordinary (though i don't really know enough to say that...)
[05:48] <walterwoj> Can some one tell me 1.) how to strat up in command line mode and 2.) how to install drivers for ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 200 series driver from the command line ( in noob talk )
[05:48] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  sorry, but did you get /var/lib/dpkg/available figured out?
[05:48] <bruenig> RickH, opening it with sudo perhaps
[05:48] <Tama00> anyone?? monitoring eye candy?
[05:48] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, No, just wanted to make sure it existed
[05:48] <cameron_> cameron@ubuntu:/home$ sudo ls -dl ~
[05:48] <cameron_> drwxr-xr-x 28 cameron cameron 1024 2007-08-13 23:36 /home/cameron
[05:48] <cameron_> , yet I can't create a folder in the directory!, (except with mkdir)
[05:48] <Rockinghorse> cameron_: what does it say when you try to create a dir?
[05:49] <walterwoj> I was told the drivers were why my diplay looks funky.
[05:49] <cameron_> it's not hilated to select
[05:49] <Fezzler> Is dmesg the correct command to see if Ubuntu has recognized my USB-to-Serial cable?  How do I tell?
[05:49] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: It's the same issue, if that's what you mean. So I guess not.
[05:49] <Rockinghorse> ah, u can only do it from cli, not from file manager, right?
[05:49] <RickH> bruenig: That's interesting... why would that change it?
[05:49] <djtansey> Jordan_U, cafuego: no more advice?
[05:49] <bruenig> cameron_, if you can create it with mkdir, you can create it in any other silly gui way unless the gui itself is broken
[05:49] <cameron_> dun dun dun, (silly gui? XD)
[05:49] <Rockinghorse> try restarting the FM.
[05:49] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  did you try moving the file and running sudo apt-get update?
[05:50] <Tama00> anyone?
[05:50] <Tama00> damn i thought this question was simple
[05:50] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  also, there should be an available.old you could replace it with and run apt-get update
[05:50] <paula> apimylove
[05:50] <bruenig> RickH, it might change it depending on how the program does things. You realize that when you run sudo you are running as root, well on 99.9% of linux distributions there is actually a /root home directory and so chowning that directory to root doesn't matter
[05:50] <bruenig> RickH, /root would hold configurations for apps when run as root
[05:50] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: I don't suppose there's an easier way than to cp the file and then rm the original, is there?
[05:50] <Tama00> are my messages even getting into this channel..
[05:51] <Tama00> can anyone hear me
[05:51] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, What do you mean?
[05:51] <walterwoj> Tama00: yes
[05:51] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  try it.  can't hurt any
[05:51] <RickH> bruenig:  I think it's odd that root would chown something just by running it.
[05:51] <Tama00> good though i was a ghost or something
[05:51] <dragon1711> hi, there!
[05:51] <Fezzler> How about me.  Are my messages getting through?
[05:51] <bruenig> RickH, not root, open office
[05:51] <walterwoj> Tama00: be patient.  I need an answer too but floding is not going to help me or you.
[05:51] <squarebottle> I was really just asking if there was a move command, as opposed to doing a copy and then a remove
[05:51] <bruenig> RickH, open office chowns it so that the user that runs it owns the directory
[05:51] <Tama00> bah forget this
[05:51] <RickH> bruenig:  Even so, I would think any app would respect whatever's there already.
[05:51] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  yeah, mv
[05:51] <dragon1711> I have a nice problem trying install Ubuntu on a NEC LaVie notebook
[05:52] <squarebottle> Rock on. :)
[05:52] <walterwoj> Another one bits the dust....
[05:52] <RickH> bruenig:  Okay.  Still sounds odd.
[05:52] <bruenig> RickH, it isn't odd, it deals with permissions
[05:52] <newbie3> how to make ncsa_auth on squid running on my ubuntu?
[05:52] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  mv /var/lib/dpkg/available /path/to/somewhere
[05:52] <walterwoj> Can some one tell me 1.) how to strat up in command line mode and 2.) how to install drivers for ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 200 series driver from the command line ( in noob talk )
[05:52] <bruenig> RickH, it is making sure that it can write to the directory. If the directory is owned by a user other than the one that is going to be writing to it, then it can run into some serious problems if you change configurations
[05:52] <dragon1711> the problem is that  modem works as sound card
[05:52] <DrHalan> how can i install older versions of a packet using the packet manager
[05:53] <bruenig> DrHalan, what is the packet manager?
[05:53] <bruenig> like wireshark?
[05:53] <DrHalan> synaptic
[05:53] <sin2gen2> DrHalan:  in Synaptic you canforce older versions
[05:53] <djtansey> Jordan_U: ?
[05:53] <Stooth> Jordan_U, yea it's telling me "Couldn't find package linux-generic" -- have you heard of this freeze at "Uncompressing Linux... OK, boot the kernel." before?
[05:53] <DrHalan> how?
[05:53] <bruenig> DrHalan, *package
[05:53] <Jordan_U> djtansey, I have no idea
[05:53] <DrHalan> sin2gen2 how?
[05:54] <djtansey> Jordan_U: do you recommend i file a bug?
[05:54] <Stooth> or has anyone else heard of this "Uncompressing Linux..." freeze?
[05:54] <sin2gen2> DrHalan:  search for the package, highlight it, then on the menu bar Package -> Force Version
[05:54] <dapallox1> hey, quick question please.  I'm running windows xp in Qemu, how do i enable windows to use the usb ports
[05:54] <Rockinghorse> walterwoj: just press alt-ctr-F2 to enter CLI
[05:54] <squarebottle> sin2gen2 and Jordan U: Alright. I moved /var/lib/dpkg/available and ran apt-get update, and I guess it remade the file at /var/lib/dpkg/available but it's still blank.
[05:54] <RickH> bruenig:  I would think that would be realized when you tried to do something.  chown'ing just sounds dangerous for the very reason that today, even after I reinstalled OpenOffice, it still wouldn't launch.
[05:55] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  can you apt-get install -f now?
[05:55] <bruenig> RickH, obviously it wouldn't launch because the configuration directory was left unchanged
[05:55] <Jordan_U> djtansey, Yes, I am not sure if it will do any good because this seems hard to pinpoint to a single package but it is certainly serious and still worth filing
[05:55] <RickH> bruenig:  Also, it's no biggie... I'm not up in arms.  Nor do I really even care.  Just making an observation.
[05:55] <Leehrat> Does anyone use mediatomb?
[05:55] <bruenig> RickH, imagine if for instance .openoffice was owned by user1 but user2 is using it, and open office tries to write to it, it won't work, you get segfault and failure
[05:55] <djtansey> Jordan_U: will do. it is indeed hard to pin point
[05:55] <RickH> bruenig:  It would launch if you were the correct user for it.  The .openoffice directory is off the /home/rickh/ directory, for example.
[05:55] <KlrSpz> i'm trying to run t his install cd for ubuntu, and i get a kernel panic talking about the APIC Timer not working... how do i run without this as suggested!?!?!?!
[05:56] <bruenig> RickH, what if /home/rickh/.openoffice was owned by user "bruenig"
[05:56] <walterwoj> Rockinghorse: Thank you you know anyting about the drivers.
[05:56] <RickH> bruenig:  It would be a poorly designed system.
[05:56] <bruenig> RickH, it would need to try to make it owned by you so that it could write to it
[05:56] <squarebottle> sin2gen2 and Jordan_U: Here's the output. We're getting somewhere, I think. http://pastebin.com/d573d3b9a
[05:56] <Rockinghorse> No, sorry, but I would check the restricted repos. GL!
[05:56] <RickH> bruenig:  Whatever.  I would think it would simply make a copy in the directory owned by that user, and then use those settings.
[05:57] <bruenig> RickH, well what is the better way to deal with it, open and then fail and segfault violently perhaps in the middle of working or just refuse to launch
[05:57] <RickH> bruenig:  Seems pretty lame to update settings for all users whenever any user changes anything.
[05:57] <bruenig> RickH, it doesn't do that at all
[05:57] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Why did you move /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
[05:57] <kyncani> KlrSpz: at boot, type ubuntu -noapic
[05:57] <me> hello all :)
[05:57] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Because sin2gen2 said to do so.
[05:57] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  remove it, then "touch /var/lib/dpkg/available" and try again
[05:58] <RickH> bruenig:  I gathered.  I'm just saying....
[05:58] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  a blank file has to be there
[05:58] <bruenig> RickH, each users settings are kept in their /home/user directory, but you can still have a situation where /home/user/.openoffice is owned by someone other than "user" so it needs to make sure
[05:58] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: What? Remove it? What?
[05:58] <bruenig> RickH, your just saying leads to work being lost in an unrecoverable way
[05:58] <KlrSpz> kyncani: where exactly though? i don't see an option to type anything
[05:58] <Jordan_U> sin2gen2, What are you trying to accomplish by having him move /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
[05:58] <KlrSpz> ie, no kernel line
[05:58] <me> I have a quick question: After installing (and loving) Ubuntu on this computer I using right now, I'd love to convert my toshiba laptop too. How can I get the ipw2200 wireless to work? thanks :)
[05:59] <bruenig> !find ipw2200.ko
[05:59] <RickH> bruenig:  I think that's lame.  I think it should leave that up to the settings it already has.
[05:59] <kyncani> KlrSpz: there is no visible option, at the boot: prompt, just type ubuntu -noapic
[05:59] <ubotu> File ipw2200.ko found in linux-image-2.6.20-15-386, linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, linux-image-2.6.20-15-lowlatency, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server, linux-image-2.6.20-15-server-bigiron (and 2 others)
[05:59] <bruenig> RickH, what?
[05:59] <RickH> bruenig:  I write software for a living.  Not for Linux, but for Windows.  I have some idea of how to design a system.
[05:59] <KlrSpz> kyncani, hmm ok, here goes nothing (whence it loads
[05:59] <sin2gen2> squarebottle: Jordan_U : if the /var/lib/dpkg/available is backed up somewhere, then a new, empty file created at /var/lib/dpkg/available it should fix the issue
[05:59] <RickH> bruenig:  If the current .openoffice is owned by someone else, then don't use it.
[05:59] <bruenig> RickH, you clearly have no idea how linux works and deals with user configuration as evidenced by your statement above that it changes the configuration for all users at once
[05:59] <efram> sin2gen2: apparently gnome x-chat that I have is a newer version cus they hide the user list under the button, and there is no way to make it stick to the side like I want it to.. (I checked their faq :P)
[05:59] <RickH> bruenig:  If the user's own .openoffice is owned by someone else, then fail with that explanation.
[06:00] <me> thank you for that page!
[06:00] <RickH> bruenig:  I'm the first to admit that.
[06:00] <sin2gen2> efram:  i have v2.8.0
[06:00] <RickH> bruenig:  I'm just saying... in all of my experience, the way it's being described today seems lame.  But, I'll continue to learn and hopefully come around.
[06:00] <bruenig> RickH, perhaps better error messages would be better, but as a policy it is far better to fail outright than to try and hope no one tries to change preferences and then segfault
[06:00] <Jordan_U> sin2gen2, I already had him do that with "sudo dpkg --clear-avail"
[06:00] <sin2gen2> efram:  i can't remember a user list not being there in prev versions though?
[06:00] <efram> sin2gen2: I use 0.16 according to this app
[06:00] <me> last headache. On my qosmio laptop, GRUB never workd (Hard Disk Error). Anyone know a fix for this?
[06:00] <Fezzler> How do I exchange files using a USB-to-Serial cable?
[06:01] <sin2gen2> Jordan_U:  yeah, ok
[06:01] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: So, what now then?
[06:01] <pvl> some1 know how to reset feisty's sound settings?
[06:01] <RickH> bruenig:  Why would it "segfault" and what is "segfault", surely not the CPU's segment registers...  And it shouldn't fail violently at that point, just be unable to complete the change permanently, though it would still honor it during this instance.
[06:01] <Ubuntuuser34> Is my box worth adding ram to? 2.4 celeron 256MB PC133, 100G ATA , Nvida AGP 32Meg. I am using a virtual machine with xp and everything is noticeable faster. I have one DDR slot avail, would upgrade to 1Gig DDR give me responsiveness  or new mb/proc/mem/vidcard?
[06:02] <sin2gen2> efram:  of xchat?  hmmm
[06:02] <KlrSpz> uh yeah, get 2 gig
[06:02] <efram> sin2gen2:  yah..
[06:02] <bruenig> RickH, then it would have to set it up where it didn't write preferences changes immediately
[06:02] <RickH> bruenig:  Nope.  It would have to set it up where it tried to write something, only to have that write request fail, and then recover politely from that error condition.
[06:02] <Rockinghorse> HW Question: can you mix different size mem sticks on a Dell Inspiron Lappy?
[06:02] <bruenig> RickH, which then means that if the app were to hang or perhaps power outage or some other, the change wouldn't be written to the disk which means you have to do it over not to mention more RAM usage each time
[06:02] <Fezzler> Are my messages visable?
[06:02] <efram> sin2gen2: I check the HELP -> about and it sais X-chat GNOME 0.16
[06:03] <efram> yess Fezzler
[06:03] <sin2gen2> efram:  yeah, xchat v 2.8.0
[06:03] <RickH> bruenig:  To have something "fail violently" in any system is idiotic in today's technology.  The CPU can trap any failure, and surely Linux is robust enough to allow for all contingencies at the OS level.
[06:03] <kyncani> Ubuntuuser34: upgrading to 1G would be good i think
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RichiH, A general unix principle is to fail early so that problems are easier to diagnose and nothing detrimental is done as a result
[06:03] <Fezzler> efram: Thanks.  My questions must be too tough tonight :)
[06:03] <RickH> bruenig:  That's so lame!
[06:03] <bruenig> RickH, and then you have people in here going "how come when I change preferences, it doesn't work, waaaaa, linux sux"
[06:03] <RickH> bruenig:  You're talking about something different than I am I think.
[06:03] <efram> Fezzler:  might be :P
[06:03] <kyncani> Ubuntuuser34: as in more responsive, less swapping
[06:04] <Ubuntuuser34> It will only support 1G on the single DDR slot. I was just wondering if more ram would do it since system monitor only shows about 90 M or 250 used when VM is running
[06:04] <GamingX> How to run multiple applications using terminal mode?
[06:04] <Ubuntuuser34> of 250 not or
[06:04] <bruenig> I guess it is just a design question, there are many apps that do this, and then there are some that don't, more of an opinion than anything else
[06:04] <bruenig> something like oo though where you do meaningful work has to be careful
[06:04] <RickH> bruenig:  Changing preferences has two components:  The current instance, and permanent settings.  It could try to save changed settings immediately, and if that attempt failed, then honor them for the current instance which is running in memory, and then notify the user that the changes could not be written because .openoffice is not owned.  Saving the file/work to disk is a completely separate issue altogether.
[06:04] <bruenig> xchat or something doesn't really matter
[06:05] <KlrSpz> kyncani, hmm it didn't seem to take typing that in
[06:05] <pvl> any1 know how to reset sound settings on feisty?
[06:05] <administrator> GamingX: put & at the end of the command
[06:05] <bruenig> RickH, saving the preference changes to disk is what I meant
[06:05] <KlrSpz> kyncani, ok i hit esc and it asked me to go to text boot mode, now it's telling me it can't find ubuntu kernel img
[06:05] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  put an & after the command and it will background that app. you can do it in succession if you want
[06:06] <administrator> runs command in background so you can continue using command prompt for other things
[06:06] <Jordan_U> pvl, What problem are you having?
[06:06] <administrator> #name jff
[06:06] <administrator> ..
[06:06] <administrator> asdf
[06:06] <ntbnnt> what is a good app for managing a large database of music (3000+
[06:06] <squarebottle> Jordan_U or sin2gen2: Did you see the output at http://pastebin.com/d573d3b9a ? What should I do now?
[06:06] <GamingX> thanks, and also how do you give further commands to the program?
[06:06] <pvl> well after trying to get my micrphone to record, i cant even load the recording app bc it says my settings are invalid
[06:06] <administrator> leave
[06:06] <administrator> LEAVE
[06:06] <kyncani> KlrSpz: the apic part was okay though ?
[06:06] <RickH> bruenig:  I realize that.  And you're saying it will "fail violently" if the .openoffice directory is not owned.  And I'm saying two things.  First, every user should have their own .openoffice directory with their own custom settings in it.  Second, even if the changes could not be written it should not fail, just notify the user that it didn't work and then continue to honor the changes in the currently running program in memory (until
[06:06] <RickH>  the user exits, at which time it will revert back to whatever it was before because it couldn't be saved).
[06:07] <OverLord> what's this command "grep" ?
[06:07] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  i'm stumped.  that was my only idea
[06:07] <KlrSpz> kyncani, no, i think it's trying to boot something called casper
[06:07] <RickH> OverLord:  Grep allows you to search through output for things.
[06:07] <bruenig> RickH, I know what you are saying, I prefer to first design though
[06:07] <RickH> OverLord:  It keeps the flodsom down.
[06:07] <RickH> bruenig:  "to first design" or "the first design"?
[06:07] <pvl> jodran_u well after trying to get my micrphone to record, i cant even load the recording app bc it says my settings are invalid
[06:07] <`eric-> anyone use deluge w/ blocklist plugin? or.. know of a "peerguardian" type app for linux?
[06:07] <OverLord> rick : can i use this command on IRC ?
[06:08] <RickH> OverLord:  If you capture the history to a text file, then you can grep it.
[06:08] <bruenig> RickH, the, the pre-emptive one
[06:08] <bruenig> is it weird that the nvidia driver from nvidia is not causing x crashes or flickering but the repo one is
[06:08] <RickH> bruenig:  What pre-emptive one?  I don't understand... both solutions would attempt immediate writes.  One would "fail violently", the other would recover politely.
[06:09] <bruenig> RickH, the pre-emptive one, the one that refuses to run if the configuration directory isn't correctly permissioned
[06:09] <OverLord> Ok so,there are just one command on IRC if i want to search any channel
[06:09] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, try running : echo "" | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/available && sudo apt-get update
[06:09] <KlrSpz> `eric-, try this? http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/forumdisplay.php?f=15
[06:09] <`eric-> !peerguardian
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peerguardian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  do you have /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[06:09] <squarebottle> `eric-: Well, peerguardian actually has a linux version I'm pretty sure, but it's lame. Azureus has the SafePeer plugin which uses the peerguardian lists.
[06:09] <LucianIndy> With least amount of bias, what is the most effective and feature-rich torrent client for the Gnome Desktop?
[06:09] <jjf> #test
[06:09] <GamingX> how to know what programs are running in the background?
[06:10] <RickH> bruenig:  I think that's unnecessary and damaging.  suppose I don't want to change any settings, but only want to print a file.  Now I can't be productive because of the possibility that I might, at some point in the future, do something which might change a setting.  That seems very unusable to me.
[06:10] <LucianIndy> gamingx, System->Administration->System Monitor, processes tab
[06:10] <jjf> Lucain, I prefer Azureus.  Resource heavy, but I like it anyway
[06:10] <bruenig> RickH, change the configuration directory
[06:10] <RickH> OverLord:  I don't know of any.
[06:10] <LucianIndy> I prefer azureus too, but for some reason whenever I open it, it closes immediately
[06:10] <GamingX> ...In terminal mode?
[06:10] <OverLord> Ok rick
[06:10] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: No luck. Still can't install stuff.
[06:10] <LucianIndy> gamingx, no. . . those were the gnome menu
[06:10] <RickH> bruenig:  I did... but until I got onto Google and searched for the error it was only displaying in a terminal window, I had no idea what the problem was.
[06:10] <kyncani> KlrSpz: well, from what i heard, apic problem during install would often disappear when using noapic and/or nolapic kernel options. Other than that, i don't know ..
[06:10] <bruenig> RickH, then you can do it, it should be permissioned to you anyways
[06:11] <bruenig> RickH, no I mean in your hypothetical situation
[06:11] <jjf> do you have the latest java version?
[06:11] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  top
[06:11] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: Yes, I have that file.
[06:11] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Do you have anything in /var/lib/dpkg/available ?
[06:11] <LucianIndy> i had it, but i uninstalled it about 2 weeks ago. I have been using BitTorrent, which only supports one download at a time
[06:11] <cameron_>  how do I manuelly update a program?
[06:11] <KlrSpz> kyncani, i found hitting f6 gives options
[06:11] <GamingX> I accidentally deleted some files using rm, any way to retrieve it?
[06:11] <KlrSpz> well, a boot line anyway
[06:11] <cameron_> the repos are out of date
[06:11] <Jordan_U> GamingX, No
[06:12] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: No, it is blank still.
[06:12] <RickH> I got on here tonight to tell everyone how much I love Ubuntu, and Linux in general.
[06:12] <RickH> Over a month now of consistent use in production, and no real issues.
[06:12] <navaburo> i am having some trouble connecting to a wired network. Sometimes i cannot ping any other machines on the network, while the other machine's networking works fine. Rebooting helps sometimes.
[06:12] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  you could try changing the mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list and re-run apt-get update
[06:12] <LucianIndy> cameron_: in the terminal, sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <kyncani> KlrSpz: ?? yes, the boot: line, that's where you're supposed to pass the noapic option
[06:12] <RickH> navaburo:  Are you using DHCP?
[06:12] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: Say what? :P
[06:12] <KlrSpz> kyncani, still waiting for it to do something... this vmware is going super slow
[06:12] <RickH> navaburo:  I mean is it setup to retrieve network info automatically?
[06:12] <KlrSpz> nope, no go
[06:12] <cameron_> ya ya, I tried, noones updated, I do have the bz2 of the update though...
[06:12] <navaburo> RickH: i use static ips, but dhcp doesnt work either when the networking i down
[06:13] <KlrSpz> kyncani, no go
[06:13] <jjf> anyone know how to do this: host private IRC chat over LAN using XChat program?
[06:13] <RickH> navaburo:  Ah.  Odd.
[06:13] <pvl> can anyone help me with microphone?
[06:13] <RickH> navaburo:  What network are you on?  A local hub?  Router?
[06:13] <navaburo> RickH, i tried ifdown/ifup, no go, and also /etc/init.d/networking restart, no help
[06:13] <sin2gen2> pvl:  using alsa?
[06:13] <navaburo> i use a 5 port switch
[06:13] <LucianIndy> jjf, yes. you need to find an IRC server and set it up for your local network. afterwards, you just have to make reference to the IP of the computer in which the server is running on in xchat
[06:13] <pvl> sin2gen2 yes
[06:13] <RickH> navaburo:  It should work.
[06:14] <sin2gen2> pvl:  go into alsamixer and hit tab
[06:14] <RickH> navaburo:  Someone else with more knowledge will have to help you.
[06:14] <dragon1711> please help me guys
[06:14] <jjf> how do I find an IRC server?
[06:14] <navaburo> with a wireless AP and two machines in the main ports, and a DSl modem in the uplink] 
[06:14] <sin2gen2> pvl:  maybe your capture setting is too low?
[06:14] <navaburo> jjf, a SERVER or a channel?
[06:14] <dragon1711> my modem overruns my snd
[06:14] <kyncani> KlrSpz: tried to boot the livecd without vmware ? it might be vmware-related ?
[06:14] <KlrSpz> kyncani, well, that's not entirely an option
[06:14] <navaburo> dragon1711, your dial-up modem?
[06:14] <dragon1711> yes
[06:14] <kyncani> KlrSpz: why ?
[06:14] <jjf> well, all computers would be behind same router, so it might have to be server
[06:15] <pvl> sin2gen2 i set everything half way
[06:15] <navaburo> dragon1711, there is a volume option for modem normally. try alsamizer
[06:15] <KlrSpz> kyncani, because i don't have any physical space available to install it if it does boot
[06:15] <navaburo> *alsamixer at command line
[06:15] <dragon1711> they both are identified as AC'97 codec
[06:15] <RickH> dragon1711:  Is your modem identifying itself as a sound-card also?
[06:15] <LucianIndy> jjf, check the repos via terminal or synaptics. for terminals type apt-cache search irc | grep server
[06:15] <kyncani> KlrSpz: well, you could just see if the livecd boots correctly
[06:15] <LucianIndy> for synaptics, just hit the search button and type irc server
[06:15] <sin2gen2> pvl:  gnome's sound recorder never works on my one laptop.  but krecord does.  maybe it is the program?
[06:15] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: Is it hopeless? :(
[06:15] <dragon1711> no it ids like modem but acts like soundcard
[06:15] <kyncani> KlrSpz: you don't need to install ubuntu for that
[06:16] <thedash> are emulators illegal ?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Never :)
[06:16] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  nah
[06:16] <pvl> sin2gen well my main goal here is to get the comp to record in general so i can use skype
[06:16] <RickH> thedash:  For what?
[06:16] <thedash> like a Neo-Geo emulator or something ?
[06:16] <Jordan_U> thedash, No, but depending on what country you are in and how you got them ROMs can be
[06:16] <navaburo> dragon1711, oh, i thought you ment that the sound of the modem dialing up can be heard in the speaker output
[06:16] <sin2gen2> pvl:  so it isn't working in skype?
[06:16] <LucianIndy> jjf, navaburo has a point. if the router will have access to the internet, you could just host a channel via a server that is already available. i.e. freenode
[06:16] <sin2gen2> pvl:  can you record with sound-recorder or krecord?
[06:16] <LucianIndy> jjf, it would be less cpu resource usage if you just did that
[06:17] <pvl> sin2gen i cant record wiht the soundrecroder andi havent tryied krecord yet
[06:17] <kkathman> I dual boot this box with SUSE and ubuntu - would anyone know why the sound refuses to work on Ubuntu after I reboot from being on SUSE ?
[06:17] <pvl> sin2gen sound recorder wont even load now bc it says i have the wrong settings
[06:17] <navaburo> jjf, and freenode has many servers providing a stable network... it essentally cannot have downtime as a whole
[06:17] <jjf> LucianIndy & navarro, thx, I'll try that.  But I don't know if Freenode would allow 6 different connections from the same IP ??
[06:17] <dragon1711> system sounds ore coming out of modem speaker
[06:17] <kkathman> I usually have to reboot several times to get it to work
[06:17] <sin2gen2> pvl:  i am not sure then
[06:17] <navaburo> jjf, freenode is rather tolerant unless you are botting. but just to be sure check #freenode
[06:18] <sin2gen2> pvl:  i was thinking your capture or mic boost settings were low
[06:18] <jjf> navaburo, thanks
[06:18] <kkathman> btw Im using a SB Live card
[06:18] <pvl> sin2gen, ill keep fiddling with that
[06:18] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: I literally just finished getting this ubuntu box set up exactly how I want it, shortcut keys and all. But... meh. I'm getting the feeling that I'm going to have to start over because of that one stupid crash. And really, when is the last time a linux system crashed on you, anyway? Me and my luck. Any ideas before I concede here?
[06:18] <navaburo> dragon1711, ooo, how bizar
[06:18] <dragon1711> lsmod |egrep '(snd)|(Module)'                  shows that modem is coming first and then comes sound
[06:19] <byonix> hi, i don't how to use my webcam & modem, how to use them?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis_> !webcam
[06:19] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:19] <sh3l1> my computer froze, while i was bittorrenting something and now azureus crashes when i try to open it, how do i clear all of the data about downloading files?
[06:20] <dragon1711> how can I delete modem
[06:20] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, I still think that it is recoverable but if you do decide to re-install keep your home folder and list of applications, that way all of your user specific preferences will still be there and all of the applications you have installed ( you may want to keep your sources.list also so that you can be sure that the packages are available )
[06:20] <Dr_Willis_> dragon1711:  if you dont need the modem module, you could blacklist it.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> !cloning | squarebottle
[06:20] <ubotu> squarebottle: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[06:20] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  fire up the install CD, mount the drive and copy the contents of the install CD's /var/lib/dpkg to your drive, reboot, and rerun apt-get update in your environment?
[06:20] <sh3l1> !justask | ubotu
[06:20] <ubotu> ubotu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:21] <dragon1711> disabled module = "..." ?
[06:21] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: If you still think it's recoverable, than hopefully that won't be necessary, eh? What do you suggest from here?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> sin2gen2, what sin2gen2 said but I would add to copy your sources.list to the live session and run apt-get update from the liveCD so the list of available packages will be the same
[06:22] <dragon1711> who needs the modem when you are on 100 mb/sec fiber  line :)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis_> dragon1711:  im not even clear on why the modem is even an issue with you.
[06:22] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  Jordan_U : right, bring over your sources.list
[06:22] <dragon1711> how do I blacklist this nice modem
[06:23] <Dr_Willis_> !blacklist
[06:23] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[06:23] <squarebottle> !cloning
[06:23] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[06:23] <sh3l1> my computer froze, while i was bittorrenting something and now azureus crashes when i try to open it, how do i clear all of the data about downloading files?
[06:23] <squarebottle> !automate
[06:23] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[06:23] <Jordan_U> sin2gen2, And I would try doing it only with /var/lib/dpkg/available first and not all of /var/lib/dpkg ( back up everything in /var/lib/dpkg/ first either way )
[06:24] <akakato_> */identify
[06:24] <Dr_Willis_> sh3l1:  may want to check the azureus channel, and perhaos its homepage/forums for the proper way to recover from the crash.
[06:24] <squarebottle> Jordan_U and sin2gen2: Alright then. Thanks for your help
[06:24] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  what does synaptic do? crash?
[06:24] <dragon1711> thnx for help guys, I will try it and brb with the result
[06:24] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, np
[06:24] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: It doesn't crash, it just fails
[06:24] <squarebottle> fails to install stuff.
[06:24] <kyncani> squarebottle: you(ve emptied the available file, apt-get update and apt-get install -f and it still does not work ?
[06:24] <riotkittie> arrrrrrrgh.
[06:24] <squarebottle> kyncani: Correct
[06:25] <kyncani> squarebottle: what's the error message when apt-get updating or -f installing now ?
[06:25] <sh3l1> dr_willis_:thanks
[06:25] <DerangedDingo> Hey everyone, sorry to just jump in, but I'm have an annoying problem. When I use Compiz as my window manager, as of yesterday, click to focus stopped working even though it's enabled in Gconf-editor. Windows don't come above the other ones unless i select the title bar and move it around. Does anyone have an idea what went wrong? All I can think of are some GTK1.2 libs I installed as XMMS dependencies (that I removed today in a futile att
[06:25] <netcatc> hello folks
[06:25] <squarebottle> kyncani: Neither of those give an output with errors. However, here's the output when I try to install something. http://pastebin.com/d573d3b9a
[06:25] <netcatc> help me with it, configure: error: Qt () (library qt-mt) not found
[06:25] <riotkittie> DerangedDingo : try #ubuntu-effects
[06:26] <Dr_Willis_> !find qt-mt
[06:26] <kyncani> squarebottle: the available file must exist, even if empty
[06:26] <ubotu> Package/file qt-mt does not exist in feisty
[06:26] <Dr_Willis_> hmm..
[06:26] <Dr_Willis_> !find mt-dev
[06:26] <ubotu> Found: libqt3-mt-dev
[06:26] <kyncani> squarebottle: sudo echo >/var/lib/dpkg/available
[06:26] <squarebottle> kyncani: Well, it exists. It's just empty, just like you say.
[06:26] <DerangedDingo> riotkittie: it's not that type of problem.. bah, nevermind. i'm just gonna screw with GConf editor and if it keeps up, i'll live. it's just annoying
[06:26] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2332849
[06:27] <Dr_Willis_> netcatc:  i would say install   libqt3-mt-dev
[06:27] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  everyone says to remove the file and run apt-get update
[06:27] <netcatc> Dr_willis, I try already
[06:27] <kyncani> squarebottle: you've apt-get updated, right ?
[06:27] <netcatc> Dr_Willis_, libqt3-mt-dev:
[06:27] <netcatc>  Depende: xlibmesa-gl-dev  but it is not installable ou
[06:27] <netcatc> 	libgl-dev
[06:27] <netcatc>  Depende: libglu1-xorg-dev  but it is not installable ou
[06:27] <netcatc>  	libglu1-mesa-dev mas no ser instalado ou
[06:27] <netcatc> 	libglu-dev
[06:27] <kyncani> !flood >netcatc
[06:27] <squarebottle> kyncani: Oh yes
[06:27] <squarebottle> sin2gen2: Haven't we done that about five times?
[06:28] <sc> 0.0
[06:28] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  yeah we have
[06:28] <riotkittie> I'm having wireless issues, yay. I have a Netgear MA111 usb adapter. There are directions for breezy/dapper, and i followed them, though i'm not sure if they apply to feisty, tho i cant imagine that they dont
[06:28] <MTecknology> I used 'tar cf pos.tar *' to create an archive then wget to transfer it. I'm now trying to use 'tar -xv pos.tar' to uncompress it. If I do ls while it's uncompressing pos.tar shows up in red, and i don't see any folder it should be getting extracted to... am i missing something?
[06:28] <navaburo> riotkittie, it may *just work*
[06:29] <riotkittie> i have also tried building myself, per the directions on netgear's site but   i kept on getting errors, and compiling has never been my strong point
[06:29] <Rockinghorse> Rockinghorse is gone...but he'll be baack...
[06:29] <kyncani> squarebottle: mmh, i really don't know ..
[06:29] <navaburo> riotkittie, what does iwconfig say with the device plugged in
[06:29] <squarebottle> kyncani: This mean anything to you? "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[06:29] <riotkittie> navaburo: if it *just worked*, i'd have not spent the majority of time in xp since getting this computer :P
[06:30] <riotkittie> err. hold on. i'll reboot and find out
[06:30] <kyncani> squarebottle: if you want, i can send you my available file so you can replace yours and try again ?
[06:30] <netcatc> Dr_willis, I tried, I dont get
[06:30] <navaburo> riotkittie, mine took me by suprise, and i fiddled around with building drivers for half and hour before realizing that it was working fine all along... but maybe that was just me
[06:31] <squarebottle> kyncani: That'd be great. Thanks. Pastebin?
[06:31] <kyncani> squarebottle: here you go: http://y.lesaint.free.fr/post/available
[06:31] <navets> I need help, I am trying to run compiz-fusion and i dont get any titlebars. I tried emerald theme manager and i get the same problem
[06:31] <byonix> hi, i don't how to use my webcam & modem, how to use them?
[06:32] <kyncani> squarebottle: the file has perms 644
[06:32] <netcatc> Dr_willis, do you have some idea?
[06:32] <squarebottle> kyncani: Still doesn't work after using your file
[06:32] <kyncani> squarebottle: same error message ?
[06:33] <squarebottle> kyncani: Yeah. Same everything.
[06:34] <squarebottle> I wish I could just "apt-get apt-get" lol
[06:35] <kyncani> squarebottle: well, i don't know ...
[06:35] <squarebottle> Woah woah
[06:35] <squarebottle> Actually, it gave a little bit more
[06:35] <squarebottle> E: gftp-gtk: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[06:35] <squarebottle> E: gftp: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:35] <squarebottle> So it's mutated into a dependency issue now? Huh?
[06:36] <kyncani> squarebottle: you can apt-get remove gftp-gtk then
[06:36] <riotkittie> ok. iwconfig throws back ... wlan0 and a bunch of junk about the connection
[06:36] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  yeah, remove all that half installed stuff if it lets you
[06:36] <riotkittie> if need be, i can paste it. but it looks like it should. save for the fact i cant connect :D
[06:36] <squarebottle> Sadly...
[06:36] <squarebottle> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:36] <squarebottle> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:36] <squarebottle> :(
[06:37] <riotkittie> also, i have wlan0 and wlan0:ava  ...  errr is that normal?
[06:37] <squarebottle> Can't add, or remove it seems.
[06:37] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  sudo?
[06:37] <kyncani> squarebottle: just delete that damn lock file (i'd say)
[06:37] <squarebottle> Yeah, I used sudo.
[06:37] <squarebottle> kyncani: Huh?
[06:37] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  maybe a killall apt-get?
[06:37] <accura2k> Is it possible to share my wireless network over my ethernet card to a nearby computer?  Similar to the "bridge" option in Windows XP.
[06:37] <squarebottle> "No process killed"
[06:38] <kyncani> squarebottle: rm the damn /var/cache/apt/archives/lock lock file
[06:38] <travis> hey guys
[06:38] <travis> can i get a hand
[06:38] <travis> lol
[06:38] <sin2gen2> accura2k:  maybe in network-manager-gnome
[06:38] <travis> as in help
[06:38] <d4rkmonkey> oh
[06:39] <d4rkmonkey> what do you need travis ?
[06:39] <travis> i wann install liek flash player
[06:39] <travis> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[06:39] <riotkittie> travis: depends. what do you need help with?
[06:39] <riotkittie> travis: what about it?
[06:39] <riotkittie> oh
[06:39] <travis> and how to dirrect to the install on my desktop from the terminal
[06:39] <squarebottle> kyncani: http://pastebin.com/d2de5bd2d
[06:39] <riotkittie> travis: why not just install from the repos?   in a term sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:39] <cafuego> travis: there is no Linux version of Shockwave.
[06:40] <squarebottle> !shockwave
[06:40] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[06:40] <travis> ok il try
[06:40] <cafuego> travis: Oh sorry, flash. Yeah, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:40] <riotkittie> oh. i thought he wanted flash.
[06:40] <cafuego> riotkittie: yeah, the url had me fooled
[06:40] <travis> awsome guys
[06:40] <travis> im typin it up now
[06:41] <kyncani> squarebottle: apt-get -f install --reinstall menu
[06:41] <sin2gen2> squarebottle:  and apt-get install -f doesn't fix that?
[06:41] <riotkittie> cafuego: :P
[06:41] <navets> I need help, I am trying to run compiz-fusion and i dont get any titlebars. I tried emerald theme manager and i get the same problem
[06:41] <kyncani> squarebottle: then remove the ftp package
[06:41] <riotkittie> navets: does "emerald --replace" in a term, w/o quotes do anything?
[06:41] <travis> ya i brand new to ubuntu
[06:42] <travis> first day man
[06:42] <riotkittie> i tried compiz-fusion and it was a pain. then again, my video card is lame, too.
[06:42] <poningru> !effects  navets
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects  navets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <poningru> !effects | navets
[06:42] <ubotu> navets: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <squarebottle> kyncani: http://pastebin.com/d137293a1
[06:42] <riotkittie> travis: ah. welcome aboard :D or something.  it can be confusing and ungodly frustrating at first but ubuntu's awesome, in terms of user friendliness and a helpful community
[06:43] <sin2gen2> !wine
[06:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:43] <travis> thabk you guys soo much
[06:43] <travis> thank*
[06:43] <kyncani> squarebottle: :)  well, apt-get clean, then redo the apt-get -f install ... line
[06:43] <navets> riotkittie: ill try quotes
[06:43] <navets> riotkittie: i mean sorry, i tried without quotes
[06:44] <navets> riotkittie: it doesnt work, the only way i can get compiz to even work is with compiz --replace -c emerald &
[06:44] <kyncani> squarebottle: that's some crazy apt/dpkg mess :)
[06:44] <riotkittie> navets: that sucks. i tried to get compiz-fusion running on my initial feisty install, and by the end of the night, all i wanted to do was drink :|
[06:45] <squarebottle> kyncani- Still no good.
[06:45] <riotkittie> brb. going to post @ the forums :|
[06:46] <kyncani> squarebottle: error message ?
[06:46] <squarebottle> kyncani: Yeah, yeah it is. And you know what? This is my fault in a way. I'd read something from an Ubuntu dev about how automatix was dangerous, and I wasn't going to use it... until I realized that I wanted the latest azureues, and wanted it installed nice and easy. And then I got tempted to get Adobe Reader with automatix, and it was during THAT install that my computer crashed. Arooooo on me.
[06:47] <travis> RK i did in a term sudo......flashplugin-non free i got an error saying e: could<nt find pakage flash pluginnonfree
[06:47] <squarebottle> Let that be a lesson to everybody.
[06:47] <kyncani> automatix ...
[06:47] <witless> hi.  i have a 280mb avi file that's a clip only 2 minutes long.  how can i compress this down?
[06:47] <squarebottle> kyncani: Automatix, automatix, automatix.
[06:48] <kyncani> squarebottle: well, once you've automatixed, i think the best thing to do is reinstall from scratch anyway
[06:48] <taran> whey .. anyone awake to give me a pointer, regarding vga issue? :)
[06:48] <squarebottle> kyncani: lol
[06:48] <Nunzio> Whats the icon size for the toolbar at top?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Now it's all clear :)
[06:49] <squarebottle> kyncani: The better way to go is probably to just find and add a repository that has the current version of azureus.
[06:49] <kyncani> squarebottle: the best thing to do is to stick with official repos i believe
[06:49] <travis> whast a repos?
[06:49] <anarchris> witless: reincode it in virtualdub, it either uses a very bad codec or is incredibly high quality :)
[06:50] <kyncani> repository | travis
[06:50] <squarebottle> kyncani: The best thing to do is use the most current stable product in my opinion. Ubuntu doesn't really do a good job keeping up with that.
[06:50] <travis> is that like and exe in windows?
[06:50] <squarebottle> kyncani: Not that I really fault them for having a hard time keeping up with everything out there.
[06:50] <riotkittie> !automatix
[06:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[06:50] <kyncani> squarebottle: same goes with ubuntu, you may want to stick with official packages
[06:50] <Jordan_U> !repository | travis
[06:50] <exlibris> Hello good people! Can anyone point me to what packages I need for compiling?
[06:50] <ubotu> travis: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:50] <travis> thanls
[06:50] <travis> thanls
[06:51] <squarebottle> Why is it that automatix is so.. dangerous? I mean, doesn't it just use apt-get itself?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> travis, A repository is where Synaptic / apt get their applications ( packages )
[06:51] <travis> oooo ok
[06:51] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, For some things yes, but not for all
[06:51] <TBZ-> !ati
[06:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:51] <heartofgold> hi. is it safe to upgrade from CD from dapper-> feisty? (or is it even doable?)
[06:51] <kyncani> !automatix >squarebottle
[06:51] <kyncani> squarebottle: a worthwile read
[06:52] <riotkittie> heartofgold: afaik, you need to use distr-upgrade
[06:52] <Jordan_U> heartofgold, You need to upgrade to Edgy first
[06:52] <bam_> hello all
[06:52] <taran> I have a 40gb USB disk, that im using to boot Ubuntu on .. Now, i installed it on this box with an ATI card, but the purpose of the disk is to have it with me to be able to have my installation on any box capable of booting from an USB device. The problem is that it has installed ATI drivers, and wont start X on other graphics card. I dont need any 3D accelleration, just standard SVGA 1024x768 setup, any idea how to revert the ATI drivers t
[06:52] <riotkittie> oh wait. if i have a wlan0, should i have a wlan0:ava ?
[06:52] <heartofgold> hmm
[06:53] <squarebottle> kyncani: That was the thing I glanced over in the first place. It's funny that such a big and developed product could be so... meh. It's frustrating. Somebody should tell Michael Dell to stop touting it.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, And anything that Automatix does install with apt could just be installed with synaptic / apt anyways, so what is the point?
[06:53] <bam_> anyone want to shed some light on a problem i have with dcc send and rc.firewall 2.4 stronger    i  cant seem to get this to work.
[06:54] <thedash> hey, would there be an easy way to have my desktop background set to a random image from a specified folder [and that changed daily or so]  ?
[06:54] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Basically, it has the convenience of an updated repository. For instance, it has the latest azureues.
[06:54] <travis> Another question do i need any kind of virus scaner ?
[06:55] <meshuggahwhateve> man i wish wine would work with war rock
[06:55] <kyncani> travis: nope
[06:55] <travis> awsome
[06:55] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Yes, but then why not just add the repository it uses ( for most things it uses mediubuntu which is practically official )
[06:55] <kyncani> travis: just keep your system up to date
[06:55] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: That's probably the way to go then
[06:55] <travis> im running 5.04
[06:55] <travis> how can i update
[06:56] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | travis
[06:56] <ubotu> travis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:56] <travis> thz
[06:56] <Jordan_U> np
[06:56] <kyncani> squarebottle: do you trust this repo enough not to break your box ? is this new version worth the "hassle"
[06:57] <squarebottle> kyncani: When a major project says they have a stable release, yes.
[06:57] <riotkittie> Microsoft has been claiming to have stable releases since at least the mid 90s. case closed.
[06:57] <kyncani> squarebottle: azureus is major enough for you that you're willing to use an external repo ?
[06:57] <squarebottle> riotkittie: Touche, hehe
[06:57] <squarebottle> riotkittie: +5000 points to you
[06:58] <riotkittie> :D
[06:58] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, A stable release of software packaged by an idiot can do a surprising amount of harm
[06:58] <riotkittie> so sad. i have to scurry back into xp if i cant get my wireless running
[06:59] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Even if the software itself is perfectly sound
[06:59] <Jordan_U> riotkittie, What chipset?
[06:59] <kyncani> squarebottle: and external repos won't always handle major upgrades (feisty -> gutsy) gracefully
[06:59] <squarebottle> kyncani: There's a certain philosophy or lifestyle or whatever you want to call it that enjoys living on the bleeding edge, and is willing to sacrifice some stability to do so. I wouldn't call myself an extremist of this stance by any means, but I do like to have the most current version of whatever I use. It's a hobby in a way.
[06:59] <travis> MY FLASH PLAYER WORKED
[07:00] <travis> u guys are great and ubuntu pretty sweet so far
[07:00] <travis> cant wait to update
[07:00] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, There are distributions which don't have distinct releases, archlinux is a great example
[07:00] <kyncani> squarebottle: well, i used debian sid not one year ago, using the latest software and breaking your box gets old at some point
[07:00] <squarebottle> kyncani: In way, I'd say that's as much a weakness of Ubuntu as it is of the other repositories.
[07:01] <macogw> squarebottle: debian testing might be good for you
[07:01] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, They just have rolling updates so it doesn't take long for a stable release to show up in the official repositories
[07:01] <riotkittie> Jordan_U: MA111
[07:01] <macogw> squarebottle: not really often bad breaks, but still much newer than anything stable
[07:01] <kyncani> macogw: yeah, but when it breaks, it can remain broken for some time
[07:02] <travis> help i have a dell and i cant use my built in wireless card how would i counfigure it i also have the application on cd from dell but in not sure i can install then ni ubuntu but also i haventtryed yet
[07:02] <macogw> kyncani: oo didnt think about that.  i havent actually used lenny yet
[07:02] <squarebottle> Heh. Well, I myself come from Gentoo actually. I actually ended up working for Sabayon for a while as their art coordinator. They were surprisingly good at keeping the portage database, well, keeping it generally awesome.
[07:02] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, What do you expect them to do about broken poorly maintained repositories breaking upgrades?
[07:02] <kyncani> macogw: i have used debian testing at some time.
[07:02] <macogw> travis: what wireless card is it? broadcom?
[07:02] <travis> i bielive so
[07:02] <travis> man ur good
[07:03] <macogw> travis: dell does a lot of broadcom
[07:03] <travis> ya
[07:03] <squarebottle> squarebottle: Whether or not they've boxed thsemself into a corner by doing things a certain way or not -- that is, whether or not I expect them to be able to do anything about it -- doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist for them.
[07:03] <squarebottle> Er.
[07:03] <macogw> travis: is it the 43xx or 1390?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> travis, Have you tried bcm43xx-fwcutter ?
[07:03] <squarebottle> Ha.
[07:03] <kyncani> macogw: when they start, say, propagating major software like gnome, gnome can stay broken for a month or two ...
[07:03] <squarebottle> Well, you know who that was to.
[07:03] <travis> its inspiron 1300
[07:03] <macogw> kyncani: oh ouch
[07:03] <macogw> travis: no the wireless card
[07:03] <travis> im not sure
[07:03] <macogw> travis: do "lspci" in the terminal and look for it
[07:03] <travis> id have to check
[07:03] <macogw> travis: but dont paste the big output here
[07:03] <travis> im trying ur trm now
[07:03] <travis> lol
[07:04] <Jordan_U> travis, Can you pastebin the output of "lspci | grep Broadcom" ?
[07:04] <squarebottle> Personally, I'm still a big fan of the way portage does things. I'm just... well, you all know about the Gentoo developers. Working with them... and the Sabayon devs weren't different... That's why I ended up leaving for Ubuntu.
[07:04] <travis> deal
[07:04] <kyncani> macogw: whereas using ubuntu the transition will happen entirely in the dev version and will be finished when you upgrade to the next big thing
[07:04] <travis>  its huge
[07:04] <macogw> kyncani: even if you use ubuntu's unstable, the breaks are fixed within days
[07:05] <riotkittie> yay for fixage.
[07:05] <travis> whats this mean in a term |
[07:05] <travis> cuz i did<nt add it
[07:05] <travis> donno how
[07:05] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Try Arch
[07:06] <squarebottle> What's Arch based on?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, pacman
[07:06] <kyncani> macogw: i have not used it, but i highly doubt gutsy has not been broken badly in the first two months following feisty's release
[07:06] <Jordan_U> macogw, Not so much with things in universe unfortunately
[07:06] <kyncani> macogw: (just guessing here)
[07:07] <riotkittie> travis: its a pipe. it sends one command to another. in your case, it well search the output of the first command for the term in the second
[07:07] <macogw> travis: its a pipe. it sends the output of the first command (lspci...lists pci devices) to the input of the 2nd (grep Broadcom....searches for the word Broadcom and prints out lines containing it)
[07:07] <riotkittie> and give you only those results
[07:07] <squarebottle> So that makes it a Slackware based distro then, if I'm not mistaken. Hmmmm. Hmmdy hmm hmm. I don't remember being a terribly huge fan of Slackware actually (I know, I know, gasp gasp gasp I'm a heretic)
[07:07] <travis> ok how do i add that using my keyboard( really stupid question
[07:07] <macogw> kyncani: feisty's big breaks were cd burning for a bit and beryl for a week
[07:07] <squarebottle> I'll give Arch a shot though
[07:08] <macogw> kyncani: i used it from alpha 2 (in january) onward
[07:08] <squarebottle> Thanks for the recommendation
[07:08] <riotkittie> travis: depends on your keyboard. may be over your \ key
[07:08] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, No, it's not based on slackware
[07:08] <riotkittie> and you just shift to get it
[07:08] <macogw> travis: above enter, usually
[07:08] <travis> great
[07:08] <riotkittie> slack <3
[07:08] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Really? But I thought-- no, no I'm thinking of slaptget, hardy har har.
[07:09] <riotkittie> heretic!  :x
[07:09] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, http://www.archlinux.org/
[07:09] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: ALready there, thanks. But now I'm curious. Where have I heard of pacman before, aside from the hungry little cheese wheel? I know it was a package manager... hmm...
[07:09] <kyncani> macogw: well, anyway, having used debian testing at some point made it very clear to me that the sole purpose to debian testing was to roll out a stable version and not to keep testing itself stable
[07:10] <travis> hey guys i get nothign when i enter lspci | grep broadcom
[07:10] <travis> its just bring s me to a ew comamnd line
[07:10] <macogw> travis: then its not broadcom
[07:10] <travis> ol have to findout later
[07:10] <macogw> travis: just do lspci and read through it yourself to see if you see somehting about wifi or networking
[07:10] <travis> ok
[07:11] <Jordan_U> squarebottle, Perhaps you are thinking of Frugalware ?
[07:11] <travis> lspci | grep Broadcom
[07:11] <travis> ooops
[07:11] <travis> Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (re v 02)
[07:11] <travis> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4319 (rev 02)
[07:11] <travis> thats it right ?
[07:12] <squarebottle> Jordan_U: Didn't know Frugalware used pacman. Aroo. This is going to bug me now. I suppose it's possible that I heard it in reference to none other than Arch Linux, heh heh.
[07:12] <riotkittie> ok. time to yank my cable, put it back in the fonera, and let forth with a flow of terribly unladylike words when i still cant connect to my wireless network. i'll be back. likely weeping at my keyboard.  good times, good times.
[07:12] <HorizonXP> hey, how do I get my MX700 bluetooth working on Ubuntu?
[07:12] <HorizonXP> !bluetooth
[07:12] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:12] <squarebottle> Alright, well, anyway, I'm off to get this box up and running again. Thanks for all your help everybody, and thanks for the little chat afterward too. :D
[07:13] <kyncani> :)
[07:13] <Jordan_U> travis, I think that with a 4401 you need to use NDISwrapper :(
[07:14] <travis> witch means
[07:14] <travis> sorry im pretty noob
[07:15] <Jordan_U> travis, It isn't supported with native Linux drivers but you may be able to use the windows drivers with a tool called NDISwrapper
[07:15] <travis> o ok
[07:15] <Matir> bcm 4401 is wired and should be supported by b44 driver, I thought
[07:15] <travis> hey thanks so much guys tonight il be back tomorow lovin this ubuntu i was try to to a dual boot but i migh tnow whant to
[07:16] <Jordan_U> travis, Wait, I might be an idiot...
[07:16] <travis> sorry i try to type too fast
[07:16] <travis> ok
[07:17] <macogw> Jordan_U: his lspci said 4319.  that's 43xx
[07:17] <macogw> Jordan_U: you're looking at the wired one
[07:17] <Jordan_U> macogw, I realized that, that is why I said I was an idiot ^^ :)
[07:18] <travis> so i guess this is the main support for ubuntu like a 1-800 number but online and u guys are techs or programmers
[07:18] <macogw> travis: download this http://macoafi.googlepages.com/firmware.tar.gz
[07:18] <travis> ok
[07:18] <Jordan_U> macogw, It is still not fully supported by the bcm43xx drivers
[07:18] <travis> i have it
[07:18] <macogw> Jordan_U: before you say fwcutter, the firmware source from which fwcutter downloads is a 404
[07:18] <Jordan_U> macogw, Are you sure that is the latest firmware, and why not have him install fwcutter instead?
[07:19] <netcatc> I don't get install -f in libqt3-mt-dev
[07:19] <Jordan_U> macogw, Too late :)
[07:19] <netcatc> dependent
[07:19] <netcatc>  xlibmesa-gl-dev
[07:19] <macogw> Jordan_U: that is the firmware that fwcutter downloads though :)
[07:19] <macogw> travis: is it on your desktop?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> macogw, I have the latest firmware as is installed by fwcutter from Feisty on my website
[07:19] <travis> yes
[07:20] <macogw> Jordan_U: thats what that tar is.  its the firmware from my computer from feisty using fwcutter
[07:20] <macogw> travis: cd Desktop
[07:20] <Jordan_U> macogw, Great minds ;)
[07:20] <macogw> travis: tar -xf firmware.tar.gz
[07:20] <travis> in a term ?
[07:20] <macogw> travis: yes
[07:20] <travis> can i copy pas in a tern
[07:20] <travis> no right
[07:20] <travis> i tryed
[07:20] <macogw> travis: of course you can
[07:21] <macogw> its ctrl shift v in the term though
[07:21] <Jordan_U> travis, Be sure to do the "cd Desktop" part
[07:21] <travis> ive tryed
[07:21] <travis> o ok
[07:21] <macogw> travis: you can do the right click copy & paste way too
[07:21] <macogw> travis:  or the highlight to copy and middle (or both buttons if you have a 2 button mouse) click to paste
[07:21] <alobaidi> hello all i am from kuwait and i hope to learn english and linux opreting system would any one add me?
[07:21] <alobaidi> alobaidi01@hotmail.com or in chat room
[07:21] <alobaidi> thank for all
[07:21] <travis> said no sush file or directory
[07:21] <travis> yupp
[07:22] <macogw> travis: did you capitalize the D in Desktop?
[07:22] <travis> nop
[07:22] <macogw> travis: you have to
[07:22] <travis> heyy
[07:22] <DerangedDingo> travis: the command line is case sensitive
[07:22] <travis> ur good man
[07:22] <travis> you bet
[07:22] <macogw> ok so anyway, you got to the Desktop now, right?
[07:23] <travis>  tar -xf firmware.tar.gz
[07:23] <macogw> and did "tar -xv firmware.tar.gz"?
[07:23] <macogw> eyah
[07:23] <travis> nvm
[07:23] <macogw> *yeah
[07:23] <macogw> ack!
[07:23] <macogw> i mean xf sorry
[07:23] <travis> travis@ubuntu:~/Desktop$  tar -xf firmware.tar.gz
[07:23] <travis> tar: firmware.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:23] <travis> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:23] <travis> cant i double clik it on my desktop
[07:24] <travis> ooo
[07:24] <macogw> travis: type "ls" and see if something's weird about it
[07:24] <travis> i expanded it
[07:24] <macogw> oh you already unzipped it?
[07:24] <macogw> ok
[07:24] <travis> yes
[07:24] <macogw> well anyway then
[07:24] <macogw> cd firmware
[07:24] <travis> k
[07:24] <macogw> sudo cp *.fw /lib/firmware/
[07:24] <Gokee2_temp> I added a server in places and now it won`t go away!
[07:25] <macogw> i shouldve said untarred, not unzipped...
[07:25] <Gokee2_temp> Right clicking just opens the place
[07:25] <WX9J> how can I increase my desktops to 4 like other versions of Linux ?
[07:25] <Gokee2_temp> I can`t seem to find any way to edit it or get rid of it
[07:25] <macogw> WX9J: right click the workspace switcher and go to preferences
[07:25] <travis> udo cp *.fw /lib/firmware
[07:25] <travis> sry
[07:25] <travis> cp: `/lib/firmware/': specified destination directory does not exist
[07:25] <travis> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[07:25] <travis> travis@ubuntu:~/Desktop/firmware$
[07:25] <travis> thats it
[07:25] <macogw> travis: sudo mkdir /lib/firmware
[07:26] <WX9J> macogw: thanks that was something I should have thought of
[07:26] <travis> now what
[07:26] <travis> it worked
[07:26] <travis> i get a new command line
[07:26] <m0u5e> whats the command to capture pressing keys?
[07:26] <macogw> travis: now do the cp line again
[07:27] <HorizonXP> hey, anyone know how to get logitech bluetooth working?
[07:27] <macogw> m0u5e: xev
[07:27] <travis> ??? sorry
[07:27] <m0u5e> macogw: thx :)
[07:27] <macogw> travis: redo that "sudo cp *.fw /lib/firmware/" bit
[07:27] <travis> o ok
[07:27] <macogw> travis: the folder /lib/firmware/ didnt exist, so you just had to make it
[07:27] <travis> lol
[07:27] <travis> i could
[07:27] <travis> i get another command line
[07:28] <macogw> travis: if it doesnt output anything, thats good.  it means no errors
[07:28] <travis> awsome
[07:28] <macogw> travis: cd /lib/firmware
[07:28] <macogw> travis: sudo chown root:root: *.fw
[07:28] <travis> on my desktop its named firmware so can i take out hte lib
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> whats the filename that i can edit so there is no graphical startup
[07:29] <macogw> travis: no no
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> init.d?
[07:29] <travis> ok
[07:29] <macogw> travis: you copied the stuff to /lib/firmware  thats where the driver looks for the firmware
[07:29] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, chmod 644 /etc/init.d/gdm
[07:29] <MasterShrek> sudo ^
[07:29] <travis> i did no errors
[07:29] <macogw> travis: you have to make the firmware files that you just copied to /lib/firmware/ belong to root though, instead of to you
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> k
[07:29] <Yuiop_Laptop> thanks
[07:29] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, if you want it back chmod 744
[07:29] <binaryacid> mhm.. im having a bit trouble changing my resolution to 1400x900 which is the max my monitor supports, is there some way to specify the resolution manually, an alternative to system -> preferences, since the 1400x900 resolution isnt showing up there?
[07:30] <MasterShrek> binaryacid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:30] <macogw> travis: so if you're in /lib/firmware and do "ls -l" it shows root as owner and group on all the .fw files
[07:30] <travis> travis@ubuntu:/lib/firmware$ sudo chown root:root: *.fw
[07:30] <travis> chown: `root:root:': invalid group
[07:30] <travis> travis@ubuntu:/lib/firmware$
[07:30] <MasterShrek> binaryacid, back it up first though
[07:30] <Jordan_U> !resolution | binaryacid
[07:30] <ubotu> binaryacid: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:30] <macogw> travis: no : after the second root
[07:30] <Lecxjo> hello
[07:30] <MasterShrek> travis, forget the group, just put root
[07:30] <macogw> travis: sorry, i screw up and type it like that rather often it seems :-/ i need to break that habit
[07:30] <AR> hi
[07:31] <Montaro> hes doing root:root: not root:root
[07:31] <travis> lol
[07:31] <macogw> Montaro: yeah i typed it wrong
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> MasterShrek: i dont have that file actually
[07:31] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> im on kubuntu
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> lol
[07:31] <Montaro> ah
[07:31] <magnetron> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e binaryacid
[07:31] <Lecxjo> hi i just installed feisty fawn
[07:31] <Lecxjo> and i havent a clue as to why there is no sound :(
[07:31] <AR> !windows
[07:31] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:31] <AR> LMAO!
[07:31] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, locate xorg.conf
[07:31] <Montaro> haha gotta love that msg ;)
[07:31] <AR> so its true :p
[07:31] <Yuiop_Laptop> is it there?
[07:31] <magnetron> !sound | Lecxjo
[07:31] <ubotu> Lecxjo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:31] <travis> just put root in the command line ?
[07:31] <MasterShrek> type that: 'locate xorg.conf'
[07:32] <macogw> travis: no
[07:32] <Fezzler> Having trouble removing a file or dir named "SUPER.<>".  Keep getting error "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'" ???
[07:32] <Yuiop_Laptop> its in my x config?
[07:32] <Yuiop_Laptop> wtf?
[07:32] <macogw> travis: he meant "sudo chown root *.fw" but the problem was i typed root:root: instead of root:root and so it got confused
[07:32] <Montaro> Fezzler: try rm SUPER.*
[07:32] <travis> lol o ok
[07:32] <travis> sry guys
[07:32] <magnetron> !enter
[07:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:32] <MasterShrek> Yuiop_Laptop, you can speficy a resolution in there, at the bottom of the file
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Yuiop_Laptop, It doesn't matter that you are using Kubuntu, you still should have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure you capitalized the X in X11
[07:33] <WindsofTime> **Help: I can get my terminal to work but when I create start-up buttons that require me to check-off the box that says "Use In Terminal".. Anytime I click on that Button the screen Goes black and it logs me out of Xubuntu (Feisty).. How do I fix it where it wont log me out when the start buttons use Terminal!!!
[07:33] <Noah> Hay peeps
[07:33] <macogw> travis: nah it was my fault.  i type that : at the end rather often, and i didnt realize i went and did it again
[07:33] <travis> hey well its working
[07:33] <Noah> anyone need file sharing my site went live today boostshare.com
[07:33] <travis> no errors
[07:33] <Yuiop_Laptop> Jordan_U: i know that but im not looking for that i dont want a graphical startup
[07:33] <Yuiop_Laptop> and i cant remember what file it is to edit
[07:33] <macogw> travis: ok it should work now.  might need to reboot though
[07:33] <WindsofTime> Noah, Advertising isn't allowed :(
[07:33] <Fezzler> Montaro: That did it!  what does "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'" mean in plain language?
[07:34] <Noah> Ok sorry thanks for the free plug anyway
[07:34] <RadiantFire> you should have put something on a new line
[07:34] <RadiantFire> instead of continueing
[07:34] <Montaro> Fezzler: its probably just an error because bash was trying to interpret the < and > as something other than a filename
[07:34] <macogw> Fezzler: means it couldnt read what you typed because some special character was in there
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Yuiop_Laptop, You want to use a tool like bum to prevent kdm from starting automatically at boot, if I understand your question correctly
[07:34] <travis> c me its the (not sure if you know) but i use like then fn + f2 to turn on my wireless
[07:34] <Montaro> Fezzler: you probably could have also put it in quotes ""
[07:34] <Noah> Has Ubuntu caught up to Windows yet
[07:34] <Noah> ??????
[07:34] <orbisvicis> should i chose flumotion, icecast, or streamcast ?
[07:34] <Montaro> or escaped it.. dunno dont use bash :P
[07:34] <macogw> Noah: its better and has been for a while :)
[07:34] <Noah> Or even PC Linux OS
[07:34] <Yuiop_Laptop> ok ill try bum
[07:34] <travis> should i reboot and c what happens
[07:35] <macogw> travis: yeah
[07:35] <travis> ok ttyl in a bit
 **Help: I can get my terminal to work but when I create start-up buttons that require me to check-off the box that says "Use In Terminal".. Anytime I click on that Button the screen Goes black and it logs me out of Xubuntu (Feisty).. How do I fix it where it wont log me out when the start buttons use Terminal!!!
[07:35] <magnetron> Noah: Ubuntu's better.
[07:35] <Yuiop_Laptop> Jordan_U: basically you know the thing that comes up that says ubuntu and has the progress bar when you start your system... i want to see whats goign on not that graphical screen
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Noah, In some ways it surpassed it in its first release, in other ways it is still "behind", depends on what you want to do, and it always will
[07:36] <Jordan_U> !better | Noah
[07:36] <ubotu> Noah: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:36] <Fezzler> I connected my old Tandy Model 102 to my Ubuntu PC tonight via a USB-to-Serial cable.  The 102 has a disk OS that lists files in Ubuntu directory specified by bootstapper call desklink on the PC.
[07:36] <Noah> Mac OSX buitl on FREE BSD that what you people need
[07:36] <macogw> Noah: ew
[07:36] <Fezzler> All worked great in terms of listing files and copying files from Tandy to Ubuntu but files did not want to go other way??
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Yuiop_Laptop, Ahh, then you need to remove the "splash" kernel parameter from grub
[07:37] <magnetron> WindsofTime: what kind of buttons is it? on the gnome panel?
[07:37] <macogw> Noah: i use a mac every day at work and i find more reasons all the time to HATE APPLE
[07:37] <WindsofTime> magnetron yes
[07:37] <WindsofTime> On the panels
[07:37] <WindsofTime> :)
[07:37] <Dr_willis_> macogw,  i agree with that 200$
[07:37] <Fezzler> Also, files copies from Tandy 102 arrived in Ubuntu with "Root" permission.  Not good.
[07:37] <macogw> dr_willis_: that ke is over the 5
[07:37] <macogw> *key
[07:38] <travis> hey
[07:38] <travis> im back
[07:38] <Noah> Ok when Ubuntu and that thwate guy catch up to windows Ill use unbuntu
[07:38] <cafuego> what
[07:38] <magnetron> WindsofTime: if you right click on the panel, there is already a logout button to add. don't use a terminal script for the logout feature, it wont work
[07:38] <WindsofTime> Last time I had trouble starting up Terminal, but that was fixed by I think installing a new one or reinstalling it.. But now whenever I try to get the GNOME Panel buttons to work with Terminal it does it
[07:38] <Noah> Ok when Ubuntu and that thwate guy catch up to windows Ill use ubuntu
[07:38] <macogw> travis: does wireless work?
[07:38] <travis> umm no go when i wann start up my card liek fn+f2
[07:38] <magnetron> Noah: ever tried it?
[07:38] <macogw> Noah: its ahead, IMO
[07:38] <WindsofTime> magnetron It isn't Logout that I am trying to do
[07:38] <cafuego> !repeat > Noah
[07:38] <macogw> Noah: i cant get a virus using this
[07:38] <macogw> Noah: i can get pretty much any software i want for free
[07:38] <WindsofTime> magnetron I am trying to make 2 buttons that will run 2 different scripts
[07:38] <Noah> Well my unbias opinion is that its still behind
[07:38] <magnetron> WindsofTime: shutdown is also availiable via right click
[07:38] <Dr_willis_> Noah,   sure.. unbiased.. sure.. whattever.. use what you want.. we dont care.
[07:39] <travis> wait in my network connection i have lo and etho
[07:39] <macogw> Noah: any OS that makes it that easy to get a virus, is a piece of shit
[07:39] <bam_> i am new to unbuntu about 2 weeks now that I have been using this distro.  Its well made and I find that I like it.  Well I have xchat, rc.firewall-2.4-stronger installed .the thing is that I cant seem to beable to use the dcc send in xchat. if the " ip_conntrack_irc, " and the "ip_nat_irc" load  my dcc send should work ?
[07:39] <Noah> even behind PC LINUX OS
[07:39] <Jordan_U> Noah, That is a logical fallacy, no two OS's will ever have feature parity
[07:39] <macogw> travis: lo is loopback
[07:39] <macogw> travis: eth0 is wired
[07:39] <macogw> travis: eth1 should be wireless
[07:39] <Noah> As soon as I booted PC Linux OS
[07:39] <erikrocha> Hi! :D
[07:39] <travis> hes not there
[07:39] <Dr_willis_> this is one of those 'lot of talking, very little being said, debates'
[07:39] <travis> c i need whats calle quickset
[07:39] <travis> to turn on my wireless card
[07:40] <magnetron> Noah: this is the Ubuntu support channel. any other topic is offtopic
[07:40] <macogw> travis: ok i dont know why.  someone else can answer why the wireless card is playing invisible
[07:40] <orbisvicis> WindsofTime, is it the program you are trying to run? Sometimes the start menu requires you make a script 'wrapper' for the application before itll run
[07:40] <WindsofTime> magnetron, Please listen, I am not trying to create a button to Shutdown or anything to turning off my Computer.. I am creating 2 buttons that will do 2 different scripts (One to start up a server another to start up a Bot for IRC).. Well when I do them I need them to work via Terminal (So I check the box "Use In Terminal")... When I click on them, the screen goes black and it logs me out of Xubuntu.. THATS NOT WHAT I AM TRYING TO
[07:40] <WindsofTime> ACCOMPLISH
[07:40] <Noah> As soon as I booted PC Linux OS it wanted me to connect to the net the first thing you need to do when you set up a new OS
[07:40] <macogw> Noah: uh ok....so what?
[07:40] <cafuego> Noah: This isn't the #PCLinuxOS channel.
[07:40] <faileas> so?
[07:40] <magnetron> WindsofTime: then you made something wrong in your script
[07:41] <WindsofTime> No the script is fine
[07:41] <WindsofTime> Its the terminal
[07:41] <travis> hmmm...........
[07:41] <WindsofTime> How do I completely Fix the terminal
[07:41] <magnetron> WindsofTime: i am sure, it's nothing wrong with your terminal
[07:41] <faileas> hmm
[07:41] <binaryacid> does the gflrx support the 9200?
[07:41] <Noah> "/join PCLinuxOS"
[07:41] <WindsofTime> the command sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[07:41] <WindsofTime> can work if I manually go to terminal
[07:41] <WindsofTime> and type it
[07:41] <WindsofTime> I want to create a button
[07:41] <WindsofTime> that does all that for me
[07:41] <WindsofTime> BUT!
[07:41] <WindsofTime> When I do, and I click on it
[07:41] <WindsofTime> the screen goes black and logs me out
[07:42] <magnetron> !enter | WindsofTime
[07:42] <ubotu> WindsofTime: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:42] <WindsofTime> The script is fine, Terminal is being buggy
[07:42] <WindsofTime> Well I have been...and its gotten me to this point
[07:42] <WindsofTime> so I pace myself
[07:42] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Right click the desktop, choose "Create Launcher..." and browse to your script in the command field.
[07:42] <travis> hey guys im gonna fiddle with this tomorow
[07:42] <WindsofTime> ugh
[07:42] <travis> its 2 in the mornin here
[07:42] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I don't know why you are getting logged off but try using gksudo instead of sudo, then you won't need to run in a terminal
[07:42] <cafuego> A a pretty icon, done.
[07:42] <macogw> travis: 18 minutes til
[07:42] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U you sure?
[07:42] <travis> lol
[07:43] <travis> where are you ?
[07:43] <magnetron> WindsofTime: yep
[07:43] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, About what?
[07:43] <macogw> binaryacid: no, fglrx is for new cards.  the radeon 9200 uses the open source (and better) radeon driver
[07:43] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Starting a terminal does not quit X. If it does, you sdhould file a bug report, not tell us about it without showing us the script.
[07:43] <magnetron> !offtopic | travis
[07:43] <ubotu> travis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:43] <WindsofTime> cafuego i showed the script
[07:43] <WindsofTime> ...
[07:43] <travis> lol okkkkkkkkkkk
[07:43] <travis> thanks guys
[07:43] <travis> good night
[07:43] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Oh sorry... must have pasted it when I wa soff in the other room.
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> script was one line.command wasent it? just started lampp?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Can you open the terminal manually?
[07:44] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U it works!
[07:44] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U yes
[07:44] <WindsofTime> Jordan want me to explain a few days ago?
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start , would want the sudopassword entered..  you dont want to use 'sudo' use gksudo or some other  one
[07:44] <WindsofTime> it relates to this
[07:44] <Dr_willis_> I think.
[07:45] <cafuego> Not that I want to whine, but why would you install a 3rd party LAMP stack on Ubuntu?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I am not sure what you mean but I am curios so sure I guess :)
[07:45] <Jordan_U> * curious
[07:45] <Dr_willis_> cafuego,  i cant understand why he needs to launch it from an icon ether. rc.local would be a better bet
[07:45] <WindsofTime> A few days ago (when I first got linux) I couldn't untar a file so I uninstalled Xarchiver and then reinstalled it...Well when i did that (it removed xbuntudesktop then replaced it)..Thanks to that I wasn't able to go to terminal via Accessories>Terminal or it would go black-screen and log me off
[07:46] <cafuego> Dr_willis_: Just add a normal init script, trivially done.
[07:46] <WindsofTime> Then I came here and told the problem
[07:46] <magnetron> macgywer LAMP
[07:46] <WindsofTime> Someone named (forgot name) had me fix the problem by basically removing the faulty Terminal and replacing it with a new one.. this fixed the problem of going manually
[07:46] <cafuego> WindsofTime: You're aware that all the lampp components are available (prepackaged) in Ubuntu, right?
[07:46] <macogw> WindsofTime: oh youre the one using xterm instead
[07:46] <WindsofTime> but When I create buttons now It uses the faulty terminal that logs me out
[07:47] <WindsofTime> I would like to rid myself of that terminal
[07:47] <macogw> uninstall it
[07:47] <WindsofTime> ...BTW I already tried a reformat and reinstall of ubuntu linux.. The terminal remains faulty
[07:47] <Dr_willis_> could be his 'alternatives' is not installed/set properly for the terminal
[07:47] <macogw> the crap terminal, i man
[07:47] <macogw> *mean
[07:47] <macogw> ohh good idea
[07:47] <WindsofTime> I know what you mean
[07:47] <macogw> install galternatives
[07:47] <Jordan_U> macogw, What terminal emulator does Xubuntu use by default?
[07:48] <macogw> and set the terminal emulator to xterm
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> Jordan_U,  "Terminal" i belive is the name
[07:48] <macogw> Jordan_U: no idea
[07:48] <WindsofTime> I think I made a bug on my own computer o.o
[07:48] <orbisvicis> WindsofTime, you using gnome (not xfce). & dont have i810 chipset ?
[07:48] <cafuego> WindsofTime: "/usr/bin/gksudo /opt/lampp/lammp start" in a standard launcher should do exactly what you want, without any need for terminals.
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> Terminal 0.2.6
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> !info Terminal
[07:48] <ubotu> Package terminal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:48] <Dr_willis_> Hmm
[07:48] <cafuego> WindsofTime: The only problem I can foresee is if there is a bug in the /opt/lampp/lammp script.
[07:48] <orbisvicis> !gnome-terminal
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-terminal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <macogw> !info gnome-terminal
[07:48] <ubotu> gnome-terminal: The GNOME 2 terminal emulator application. In component main, is optional. Version 2.18.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 185 kB, installed size 432 kB
[07:49] <kitzilla> argh.
[07:49] <WindsofTime> cafuego, It isn't faulty if I am able to go manually into (the working) terminal and enter that.. and it does what its suppose to
[07:49] <Dr_willis_> what 'terminal' program is working? xterm? rxvt? gnome-terminal?
[07:49] <WindsofTime> when I create a (shortcut if you will) button the panels its using the faulty terminal
[07:49] <bullgard4> English help wanted: On a 85-key laptop computer keyboard there is a key in the lowest row between the keys 'Alt Gr' and 'Ctrl'. What is its proper English name? Is it 'shortcut menu key'?
[07:49] <WindsofTime> um
[07:49] <WindsofTime> I dont know
[07:49] <WindsofTime> ah!
[07:49] <WindsofTime> Dr_willis_
[07:49] <WindsofTime> The fellow before had me install xterm
[07:49] <george2002> hello somebody podria to say to me as it repairs east error        /etc/x11/x is not executable givin up xinitconnection refused(errno 111):unable to conectto x serverxinit:no such progress(errno3):Server error
[07:50] <WindsofTime> to replace the old default of Xubuntu terminal
[07:50] <macogw> WindsofTime: sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
[07:50] <cafuego> WindsofTime: Can you pastebin the contents of the "<button>.desktop" file that was created when you made the button?
[07:50] <macogw> WindsofTime: set it to use xterm as default instead of the xfce one
[07:50] <Dr_willis_> i perfer rxvt to xterm. :) , theres also eterm, and others
[07:50] <WindsofTime> macogw will that work for the buttons as well?
[07:50] <macogw> WindsofTime: i think so
[07:51] <macogw> WindsofTime: itll make xterm the default terminal emulator for everything
[07:51] <WindsofTime> alright
[07:51] <Dr_willis_> my system seems to be using        *+        5    /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper
[07:51] <Dr_willis_>      , as its 'default' xfce terminal
[07:51] <WindsofTime> **Goes to perform the said actions**
[07:51] <WindsofTime> I will let you know how it turns out
[07:51] <orbisvicis> !flumotion
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flumotion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <slapfaceware> i prefer aterm
[07:52] <macogw> dr_willis_ yeah gnome uses gnome-terminal.wrapper
[07:52] <orbisvicis> !info flumotion
[07:52] <ubotu> flumotion: Fluendo Streaming Server - manager, worker and admin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1 (feisty), package size 529 kB, installed size 3100 kB
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           1    /usr/bin/xterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           2    /usr/bin/uxterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           3    /usr/bin/koi8rxterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           4    /usr/bin/lxterm
[07:52] <WindsofTime> *+        5    /usr/bin/gnome-terminal.wrapper
[07:52] <WindsofTime>           6    /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper
[07:52] <WindsofTime> Which Do I choose?
[07:52] <Blue89> does anybody here have a mobility radeon m6ly gfx card? I need a favor
[07:52] <Dr_willis_> WindsofTime,  'think' :)  use #1
[07:53] <Blue89> I used ot use ubuntu, but I like gentoo package manager, so I switched
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> or try it.. if it fails.. try another
[07:53] <WindsofTime> lol
[07:53] <Blue89> but I am not getting the same 3D anymore
[07:53] <WindsofTime> ok thanx
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> Blue89,  i dumped gentoo because of its package manager. :)
[07:53] <macogw> WindsofTime: #1 is the one youre using
[07:53] <Dr_willis_> hes using #5 = the *+ is the selected/default.
[07:53] <Blue89> I was hoping somebody with my gfx card could pastebin their autoloaded modules file and xorg.conf file
[07:53] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I am curious how xfce4terminal is causing X to crash, and I personally don't like just working around a problem instead of solving it, so do you mind doing some debuging?
[07:54] <WindsofTime> Well Jordan_U if I knew what made this problem occured
[07:54] <WindsofTime> I would gladly tell you
[07:54] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You should also file a bug
[07:54] <Blue89> Dr_willis, it has it's setbacks.. a bit of a double-edged sword
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: what card?
[07:54] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I have some things to try to help figure that out :)
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> try running  /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal.wrapper   and see if that works. should spawn a new terminal
[07:54] <WindsofTime> All I know is that when I uninstalled and reinstalled Xarchiver Synaptic also uninstalled and reinstalled Xubuntu Desktop
[07:54] <Blue89> "mobility radeon M6LY"
[07:54] <macogw> Jordan_U: so do what? cat `xfce-terminal` >> term-crash.txt ?
[07:54] <Dr_willis_> Blue89,  yep. more of a Double Edged Hammer. :)
[07:54] <WindsofTime> Which I think would have done that
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> M6LY ??
[07:55] <Blue89> yeah
[07:55] <Blue89> it's a laptop
[07:55] <Jordan_U> macogw, Yes, though with screen and I am not sure why you are using cat
[07:55] <Blue89> odd gfx card
[07:55] <riotkittie> argh
[07:55] <macogw> Jordan_U: because i meant echo :)
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> I have mobility radeon on my laptop, but its X1400.
[07:55] <WindsofTime> BWhahaha
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: what laptop?
[07:55] <WindsofTime> That was the faulty terminal
[07:56] <Blue89> but I know from experience it should be going faster, there must be a tweak ubuntu uses I have not done
[07:56] <WindsofTime> When I randomly logout thats the terminal closing me =\
[07:56] <riotkittie> hm. should i try using network-manager-gnome over network-manager?
[07:56] <Blue89> it's a toshiba satellite, s-103 IIRC
[07:56] <Jordan_U> macogw, Still not necessary but at least makes sense that way :)
[07:56] <WindsofTime> Btw does PrintScreen copy DOS looking text when the screen goes black??
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: are you on 7.04?
[07:56] <macogw> Jordan_U: you dont need anything at the start?
[07:56] <riotkittie> i was able to type in the names of my networks, and pick up signals, but i couldnt connect under the open or secure  :|
[07:56] <Blue89> not anymore
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> oh?
[07:56] <Blue89> don't take this personally, I switched to gentoo
[07:57] <faileas> WindsofTime: i don't think so. aybe you could pipe it to a text file?
[07:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, In a run dialog run "xterm"
[07:57] <Jordan_U> macogw, Nope, just "command >> file"
[07:57] <WindsofTime> Cross your fingers I switched Terminals
[07:57] <Blue89> I just want to know what your distro is doing differently for my card
[07:57] <macogw> Jordan_U: i guess that makes sense
[07:57] <Jordan_U> macogw, Or "command tee file" as I like to do :)
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> Blue89: gentoo has great support in #gentoo, and they have one of the best wikis out there.
[07:57] <macogw> Jordan_U: tee?
[07:57] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U keep in mind I am still quite new to Linux so I do not know all the terms or procedures that would be required to know what you speak of most of the time =\
[07:57] <Jordan_U> macogw, Erm... "command | tee file"
[07:57] <macogw> portage was too slow for me
[07:58] <WindsofTime> If I logout it means the 2nd terminal is faulty as well
[07:58] <DARKGuy> Hey! can somebody help me set up my wireless card to work as a "bridge" for connecting my laptop to the internet through it? in Windows I assign SSID, password and all and I see my wireless network in the laptop and can use the internet if I share the ethernet connection. Is this possible on Ubuntu? and if so, how?
[07:58] <Blue89> you're missing the point, I have to use my brain for that, when I can just borrow a file from your distro if somebody has my gfx card
[07:58] <Blue89> it's the same x server
[07:58] <Blue89> lol
[07:58] <macogw> Blue89: use an ubuntu live cd and copy the xorg.conf to your hard drive
[07:59] <riotkittie> or ask on the forums.
[07:59] <WindsofTime> =
[07:59] <WindsofTime> That didnt work
[07:59] <bobgill> How can I browse windows shares in the terminal? I can see them just fine in Nautilus
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  i like the fusesmb tool
[07:59] <Dr_willis_> !info fusesmb
[07:59] <ubotu> fusesmb: filesystem client based on the SMB file transfer protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (feisty), package size 26 kB, installed size 140 kB
[08:00] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  that way i make a "network' directory that has the whole lan and all the samba shares on it.
[08:00] <Blue89> bobgill, they are mounted somewhere. I would look in /mnt or maybe ~/mnt for them (but like I said, I don't use ubuntu anymore)
[08:00] <Jordan_U> macogw, It outputs to stout and writes to a file whatever is piped to it
[08:00] <bullgard4> English help wanted: On a 85-key laptop computer keyboard there is a key in the lowest row between the keys 'Alt Gr' and 'Ctrl'. What is its proper English name? Is it 'shortcut menu key'?
[08:00] <Dr_willis_>  Nautilus just 'scans' and shows the shares.it dosent mount them as far as i know.
[08:00] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Ok I just installed it, how would I browse to windows box ?
[08:01] <DARKGuy> Hey! can somebody help me set up my wireless card to work as a "bridge" for connecting my laptop to the internet through it? in Windows I assign SSID, password and all and I see my wireless network in the laptop and can use the internet if I share the ethernet connection. Is this possible on Ubuntu? and if so, how?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> macogw, It outputs to stout and writes to a file whatever is piped to it
[08:01] <Jordan_U> macogw, It's nice for commands where you want the output saved but also need to be interactive
[08:01] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You can open a "working" terminal now, correct?
[08:01] <Blue89> bullgard4, people usually call that the super key IIRC
[08:01] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  you will need to make a smbfuse config file, then run the command  fusesmb DirectoryName
[08:01] <Blue89> no wait, it's meta isn't it... nevermind X-D
[08:01] <macogw> bullgard4: menu key
[08:01] <WindsofTime> T_T....None of them are working
[08:02] <macogw> bullgard4: at least, thats what i call it
[08:02] <WindsofTime> Sorry Jordan_U It logged me out agian the moment you said something
[08:02] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Ok how do I make that?
[08:02] <macogw> bullgard4: super key = the windows / sun / tux key
[08:02] <Dr_willis_> bobgill, start with the fusesmb man pages :)   man fusesmb /usr/share/man/man5/fusesmb.conf.5.gz
[08:02] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You can open a "working" terminal now, correct? ( repeating what I said )
[08:02] <faileas> there's a tux key?
[08:02] <Blue89> I wish my laptop had a tux key instead of a windows key
[08:02] <macogw> faileas: from some companies, yes
[08:02] <WindsofTime> I can manually open a terminal
[08:02] <WindsofTime> yes
[08:02] <faileas> my laptop dosen't have a winkey ;)
[08:02] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  /usr/share/doc/fusesmb/examples/fusesmb.conf.ex, for an example, and the fusesmb web site has info also. its a simple config file
[08:02] <Blue89> faileas, high five
[08:03] <faileas> thinkpad ;)
[08:03] <WindsofTime> I cannot for some reason have anything run OFF of the terminal or it will forve a Logoff on me =\
[08:03] <WindsofTime> *force
[08:03] <PoofDaddy> How do I find out how much space is left on my hard disk?  I'm using Edgy.
[08:03] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Yes I can manually run a Terminal via Accessories>Terminal
[08:03] <macogw> PoofDaddy: df -h
[08:03] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Ok so I just put it in ~/.smb/ right ?
[08:04] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  yep. and the permissions got to be corr3ct on it
[08:04] <bullgard4> Blue89: macogw , Blue89 : You two people call it differently. I would like to know how Ubuntu calls this key in English 'officially'.
[08:04] <riotkittie> in whose English?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok, open one and run "screen" then hit return and you should be back to a normal shell ( command prompt )
[08:04] <Blue89> yeah, which is why I shut up, I forget
[08:04] <macogw> bullgard4: well see, in Ubuntu you can set which key does what, so that's a bit of a problem
[08:04] <WindsofTime> T_T
[08:04] <bullgard4> riotkittie: Ubuntu's
[08:05] <WindsofTime> Im about to throw this computer out
[08:05] <Dr_willis_> PoofDaddy,  My Fave [08:05] <Dr_willis_> PoofDaddy,  i make that an alias. :)
[08:05] <bullgard4> macogw: And my problem too.
[08:05] <teKnofreak> WindsofTime, dont waste you computer, donate it to me ;)
[08:05] <WindsofTime> -_-
[08:05] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You don't need to do this if you don't want, I just like fixing problems instead of working around them
[08:05] <WindsofTime> Jordan
[08:05] <alieas> Hi, I have a new kernel compiled (2.6.22.2), would like to boot it.  But I have nvidia-glx installed.  Are there steps to remove this and reinstall under the new kernel?  thnx
[08:05] <WindsofTime> so do I
[08:05] <frank0708> whois aaragon
[08:06] <WindsofTime> and I answered your questoin
[08:06] <PoofDaddy> Dr_willis_: What?
[08:06] <macogw> frank0708: you need a / before htat
[08:06] <frank0708> yeah
[08:06] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: Would the right permission be chmod a+x? or smth else?
[08:06] <frank0708> :)
[08:06] <mario> hello I'm trying to install xubuntu on my laptop, and I downloaded the iso, could someone explain to me how to do it without burning the cd. I'm looking to do an installation from the hardrive
[08:06] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I CAN open a working terminal Manually Applications>Accessories>Terminal.. Now what
[08:06] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Have you opened a terminal and run screen?
[08:06] <WindsofTime> Run screen?
[08:06] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok, open one and run "screen" then hit return and you should be back to a normal shell ( command prompt )
[08:06] <macogw> alieas: dont need to remove it, but you need to get the source deb for it and recompile it
[08:07] <newbie3> my squid keep telling "cache access denied" what should i do?
[08:07] <macogw> mario: with a dual boot? you could use wubi
[08:07] <WindsofTime> it is telling me info
[08:07] <WindsofTime> do I hit space of return?
[08:07] <WindsofTime> *or
[08:07] <macogw> mario: well, im guessing it can do xubuntu. i know wubi can do ubuntu
[08:07] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Either one
[08:07] <WindsofTime> now what
[08:07] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  -rw------- 1 willis willis   0 2007-08-14 00:32 fusesmb.conf
[08:07] <alieas> macogw: so just get the matching source deb, and then re-compile after new kernel boot ?
[08:07] <macogw> alieas: yes
[08:08] <alieas> macogw: excellent, thank you
[08:08] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Run "xfce4terminal | tee terminalcrash.txt"
[08:08] <mario> macogw: I have ubuntu on one partition, and I want to put xubuntu on the other
[08:08] <CruX> hmm Compiz Fusion 0.5.2 released
[08:08] <CruX> can you give me repository vith this ?
[08:08] <WindsofTime> bash not found
[08:08] <Dr_willis_> mario,  why bother?
[08:08] <macogw> mario: oh....umm...i think you have to burn something.
[08:08] <CruX> 0 days packages :)
[08:08] <riotkittie> errr. if you have ubuntu on one partition, why not just install the xubuntu desktop pkg?
[08:08] <Jordan_U> mario, Why not just install XFCE ?
[08:08] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: ok I got the permission right it told me what to do, but I did "fusesmb ~/Network" and I got: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
[08:08] <macogw> mario: why not do apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U:   "jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$ xfce4terminal | tee terminalcrash.txt
[08:08] <WindsofTime> bash: xfce4terminal: command not found
[08:08] <WindsofTime> "
[08:08] <riotkittie> of xfce
[08:08] <macogw> crux: maybe trevino's repositories have it
[08:09] <macogw> WindsofTime: theres a - before terminal
[08:09] <teKnofreak> mario, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[08:09] <mario> macogni: will that give me a clean xubuntu install on the other partition?
[08:09] <macogw> mario: no it lets you pick ubuntu or xubuntu when you boot
[08:09] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  you havent read the docs yet have ya. :) you need to set your user to the fuse group. in /etc/groups, and logout/backin
[08:09] <macogw> mario: er, when you log in i mean
[08:10] <riotkittie> mario: do you really need a clean xubuntu install? ubuntu and xubuntu are for the most part, the same beneath the desktop package. you can use both desktops on the same partition, just switch between sessions
[08:10] <macogw> mario: theyre identical except for the interface. underneath, it's all the same, so there's no point in having both, really
[08:10] <Dr_willis_> the 'desktop' is just another set of programs. :)
[08:10] <WindsofTime> macogw, its xfce4terminal | tee- terminalcrash.txt ????
[08:10] <macogw> WindsofTime: no xfce4-terminal
[08:10] <WindsofTime> alright
[08:10] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, My mistake, sorry
[08:10] <WindsofTime> its ok
[08:10] <WindsofTime> :)
[08:10] <macogw> WindsofTime: the first termina
[08:10] <macogw> l
[08:10] <macogw> terminal
[08:10] <WindsofTime> I have made worse mistakes >.>
[08:10] <teKnofreak> mario, if you want it for testing purposes, you can try it over a virtual machine :)
[08:11] <macogw> like virtual box!
[08:11] <Shaye> I've installed another language package but how do I actually change between languages in the OS?
[08:11] <WindsofTime> Well as you can tell that didn't work
[08:11] <WindsofTime> being it logged me out
[08:11] <WindsofTime> ..agian
[08:11] <bobgill> Dr_willis_: I have no /etc/groups, I went to system>admin>User Settings.. in Manage Groups I went to fuse > Properties and checked my user as a Group Member, is that correct?
[08:11] <mario> I'm using ubuntu with XFCE already, but it's really screwed up as I messed with it allot before I really understood anything. So I'm looking for a new installation and I figured since i like XFCE the best anyways, I might aswell install xubuntu
[08:11] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, But now we can look at any error it outputed
[08:11] <Dr_willis_> bobgill,  its proberly /etc/group (go figure)
[08:12] <WindsofTime> O really?
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> I just edit the file bobgill . :) never use the gui tools
[08:12] <bobgill> don't have that either
[08:12] <WindsofTime> It logged me out, I dont think it made anything o.o
[08:12] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, There should be a text file in your home folder called terminalcrash.txt
[08:12] <WindsofTime> um ok
[08:12] <riotkittie> mario: why not just remove xfce, purge the settings, reinstall?
[08:12] <Shaye> I've installed another language package but how do I actually change between languages in the OS?
[08:12] <WindsofTime> There is
[08:12] <WindsofTime> How did you know it would do this?!!? O_O
[08:12] <riotkittie> and then remove the ubuntu-desktop, if you have no desire to use gnome?
[08:12] <bobgill> oh nm I do :)
[08:12] <Dr_willis_> WindsofTime,  'logical thinking' :)
[08:12] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Because I told it too :)
[08:12] <WindsofTime> ROFL!! It has nothing in it >_>
[08:13] <thepat20> Hey, anyone want to help a n00b with a problem?
[08:13] <mario> riotkittie: because X crashes on me all the time independent of window manager
[08:13] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is unfortunate :)
[08:13] <WindsofTime> Sadly it is
[08:13] <riotkittie> Shaye: i have no clue. try poking around in the preferences or admin menus under system?
[08:13] <WindsofTime> Any alternatives?
[08:13] <Dr_willis_> mario,  try making a new user. see if it works right for them - if so copy all their settings over to your other user. :)
[08:13] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try running "screen -X" in a terminal
[08:13] <WindsofTime> I will try
[08:13] <alieas> macogw: 1 question:  apt-get install nvidia-glx-kernel-source, now I have extracted nvidia-kernel-source in /usr/src.  Is this what I need to compile after new kernel boot?
[08:13] <trwww> I really have to bang on the touchpad to get it to register a click. How do I adjust the tap pressure on the touchpad? I installed QSynaptics, but theres only a couple settings under the "Tapping" tab, none that say anything about tap pressure.
[08:14] <WindsofTime> Please specify a Command
[08:14] <teKnofreak> Shaye, in KDE it is in control center --> regional and languages
[08:14] <macogw> Shaye: pick language on the login screen.  it might be under options or sessions in different login menus
[08:14] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Sorry again, lower case "x"
[08:14] <thepat20> who here uses frostwire?
[08:14] <WindsofTime> ok
[08:14] <WindsofTime> lol its ok
[08:14] <Dr_willis_> !frostwire
[08:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:14] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  not used it in several months :)
[08:14] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U It shows lots of text
[08:14] <macogw> thepat20: are you using beryl and having frostwire not show up?
[08:14] <WindsofTime> Shall I PM it to you?
[08:14] <dvm> Howto switch the SCIM language by changing the env variable or shell commands?
[08:15] <thepat20> english please
[08:15] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Pastebin it
[08:15] <thepat20> i have had ubuntu for.... 3 days
[08:15] <macogw> thepat20: that was english....
[08:15] <WindsofTime> As you desire
[08:15] <Jordan_U> !paste | WindsofTime
[08:15] <ubotu> WindsofTime: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <WindsofTime> I know how ^^
[08:15] <Dr_willis_> it was very english.. given that you dident ask much of a question... :)
[08:15] <riotkittie> I am having difficulties with my wireless - it's a Netgear MA111 usb adapter. I have searched, read, followed a guide for breezy and dapper -though I am on Feisty- and am fairly lost. iwconfig does show wlan0 and my essid and all of that...
[08:16] <riotkittie> and if i manually config [name + key]  in Network Manager, i can pick up signals on both my public and private networks. but. i can't seem to connect
[08:16] <mario> i really just want to make a new install and I can't burn a cd, so I was curious as to how to do it directly from the iso
[08:16] <thepat20> i was a windows wiz for a long time, and i dont understand ubuntu very well
[08:16] <macogw> alieas: yeah, i believe so
[08:16] <macogw> thepat20: what part wasnt english to you?
[08:16] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.org/509
[08:16] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  theres a great many starter guides on the ubuntu site. and other web sites.
[08:16] <thepat20> not literally english, like n00b speak
[08:17] <thepat20> yeah i just got that link gonna go check it
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20:  dude, i asked "are you using beryl and when you run frostwire, frostwire doesnt show up?"
[08:17] <Shaye> teKnofreak, I have "Language support"
[08:17] <Shaye> Under the control-center
[08:17] <riotkittie> mario > and you dont have a disc on hand?  :o
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20: "doesnt show up" should be easy enough to understand, i would think
[08:17] <Dr_willis_> yep - with linux it Pays BIG time to read. :) and read.. and read...
[08:17] <thepat20> yeah beryl confused me
[08:17] <Shaye> But It's already enabled there
[08:17] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U as I can read: It seems I have a fatal error
[08:17] <thepat20> i think that i am using the F version, Feisty Fawn
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20: thatd be a compositing window manager that lets you get wobbly windows and desktop cube and lots of other stuff
[08:17] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  a beginner shouldent even be LOOKING at beryl stuff
[08:17] <sapumal>  how can I check the package to which a file is belong to in Solaris? (!Ubuntu but Please help me)
[08:17] <riotkittie> given what i've said above, can i rule out a driver issue?
[08:17] <macogw> thepat20: it's also a type of gem
[08:18] <teKnofreak> Shaye, try logging out, then change in the languages under login menu, relogin
[08:18] <Shaye> K brb
[08:18] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is wonderfully unhelpful, it basically says that the terminal crashed because X crashed, but doesn't help us know why X crashed ( which was caused by the terminal )
[08:18] <alieas> macogw:  yeah it looks correct.  I was thrown off by the sub-directories.  this appears to build the module, thanks again
[08:18] <macogw> alieas: no problem
[08:18] <WindsofTime> =\
[08:18] <thepat20> all i am trying to do is install Frostwire, i downloaded the package and installed it, now wondering what to do
[08:18] <Parisi_work> Hello
[08:18] <WindsofTime> I am sorry but that is what it said to me
[08:18] <mario> riotkittie: I have a cd on hand, i just can't get ubuntu to burn an iso
[08:18] <macogw> thepat20: run it?
[08:18] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  I think the command is 'frostwire' to run it..
[08:18] <thepat20> yes sir
[08:19] <thepat20> u have to run it from the terminal?
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> thepat20: you need to install java too.
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: you can
[08:19] <Bllz> hey guys. quick question.  I'm going to reinstall ubuntu and i was wondering what the recommended partition setup was?
[08:19] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U
[08:19] <thepat20> crap. i hate java
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: or add a thing to the menu to run it
[08:19] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: the default one that the installer creates.
[08:19] <Dr_willis_> thepat20,  frostwire is written in java. :)
[08:19] <Bllz> just looking for input really...
[08:19] <WindsofTime> I am able to go back onto the GNOME desktop and use terminal normally if that can help any
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: well frostwire and limewire are java apps
[08:19] <Dr_willis_> as is limewire
[08:19] <thepat20> macogw, can i pm u
[08:19] <Dr_willis_> !p2p
[08:19] <macogw> thepat20: if you dont want java, use gtk-gnutella
[08:19] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:19] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:19] <sapumal> how can I check the package to which a file is belong to in solaris (!Ubuntu but please help me)
[08:19] <Ashfire908> could i get some help with wvdial? one computer i use it on dials the number then times out with a "no carrier detected" error.
[08:20] <Bllz> fyrestrtr, what about making the /home part separate?
[08:20] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Can you tell me how I may access this?
[08:20] <macogw> sapumal: what makes you think any of us would know?
[08:20] <Parisi_work> Hey anyone wanna buy some cheap SCO shares?
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: that is up to you; how you want to set it up.
[08:20] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is because gnome uses gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal is the one that has problems
[08:20] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: but for 99% of people, the default setup suffices.
[08:20] <macogw> Parisi_work: theyre down 1.12% today, probably thanks to that ruling
[08:20] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:20] <Parisi_work> macd, i was being sarcastic :)
[08:20] <sapumal> Ashfire908 : http://sapumal.blogspot.com/2006/12/internet-access-via-bluetooth-dun.html
[08:21] <mario> does someone know how to install Ubuntu on another partition from withing Ubuntu without having to burn the iso
[08:21] <macogw> Parisi_work: i know.  i put the "invest" applet on my panel to watch SCOX after the ruling
[08:21] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  okay.  The thing is the default gives me WAAAY too much swap space, so maybe i'll just go ahead and do it manually.  There's no major advantage to separating / and /home?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Or by navigating to it from the file manager, "Filesystem" is the same as "/"
[08:21] <macogw> mario: someone sent you to a link about installing from linux
[08:21] <WindsofTime> Im pastebinning it now
[08:21] <fyrestrtr> the major advantage is that if you ever hose up your system, your personal files will remain safe should you re-install.
[08:21] <Dr_willis_> mario,  good luck with that.
[08:21] <Ashfire908> sapumal: i am not accessing the internet via bluetooth.
[08:21] <Jordan_U> Bllz, Makes switching distros / re-installing easier
[08:22] <Parisi_work> macd: :)
[08:22] <macogw> Parisi_work: youre not pinging me, ya know
[08:22] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: how much ram do you have?
[08:22] <mario> macogw: thanks, I totally missed it. (I was reading the wubu site)
[08:22] <Bllz> jordan_u:  okay so if i want to separate them i just define the mount points as / and /home respectively?
[08:22] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U:  Enjoy reading this o.o  http://pastebin.org/510
[08:22] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  3gb
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Bllz, Yes
[08:22] <sapumal> Ashfire908: sorry
[08:22] <Bllz> and it gives me 6 gb of swap... way too much
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: laptop?
[08:23] <Bllz> desktop
[08:23] <thepat20> peace
[08:23] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, done ;)
[08:23] <WindsofTime> Your done already?
[08:23] <WindsofTime> o_O
[08:23] <Parisi_work> macd I did not know i was supposed?
[08:23] <Parisi_work> "supposed to"
[08:23] <macogw> Parisi_work: you keep typing someone else's nick, not mine
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: if you want to hibernate, then you need large amounts of swap -- also, if you plan to install oracle and some other apps, they require a set amount of *swap* (in addition to the memory requirement)
[08:24] <lambertz> i did update my ubuntu from edgy to feisty, but now i'm with seriously font problems!! my dpkg try to install  x-ttcidfont-conf but it says error, and programs a lot depends from this package
[08:24] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  I was thinking of just giving myself like 512 mb of swap... i feel like that's more than enough?  And seeing as i dont even know what oracle is, lol, i think i should be okay
[08:24] <Bllz> what do you think?
[08:24] <Parisi_work> macogw Gotcha, That is what i get for trying to do 3 things at once, my apologies.
[08:24] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Unfortunately that is no help either :(
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: stick with 1GB
[08:24] <WindsofTime> T_T
[08:24] <Shaye> It didn't help teKnofreak
[08:24] <teKnofreak> Shaye, ?
[08:24] <Bllz> kk will do
[08:24] <Shaye> strange
[08:25] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, This is a truly bizarre problem
[08:25] <teKnofreak> Shaye, :-s ohhh
[08:25] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U do you think a reinstallation of Xubuntu would fix it?
[08:25] <WindsofTime> not the Entire Ubuntu
[08:25] <Shaye> is there anything else I need to install maybe?
[08:25] <WindsofTime> just Xubuntu
[08:25] <Bllz> fyrestrtr:  one more question.  if i do a separate / and /home, will my desktop be on the / or /home partition?
[08:25] <macogw> Shaye: programs are translated on a per-application basis, so if some programs havent been translated, theyll stay english
[08:25] <Bllz> and is it / or \?
[08:25] <teKnofreak> Shaye, is the language you want listed there ?
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz: on /home
[08:25] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Since I don't know what is causing it anything is possible
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: /home
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz:  /
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz: not \
[08:25] <macogw> Bllz: \ is for windows
[08:25] <Bllz> okay. thanks a lot guys!
[08:25] <teKnofreak> Shaye, check the menus, are they in your language ?
[08:25] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Can you guide me in a complete and successful reinstall of Xubuntu?
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> Bllz: desktop is /home/yourusername/Desktop
[08:26] <Bllz> i'll check in if i have any issues but that just about answers all of my questions
[08:26] <Bllz> kk thanks fyrestrtr
[08:26] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Didn't you say that you already tried re-installing?
[08:26] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I already tried re-installing the ENTIRE Ubuntu
[08:26] <mesapiegrande> I could use some help accessing a windows share from Ubuntu.  Samba has me wrapped around the axle.  Could anyone assist me?
[08:26] <WindsofTime> not just one peice of it
[08:26] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  no, everything is in english, I don't want the softwares/os itself to be in that language I just want to be able to type/search in that language
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> mesapiegrande: symptoms?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Then just re-installing XFCE is not likely to do anything
[08:27] <WindsofTime> Any suggestions?
[08:27] <teKnofreak> Shaye, ah, then try SCIM :)
[08:27] <teKnofreak> !scim
[08:27] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[08:27] <WindsofTime> What can I lose if I just go back to useing GNOME?
[08:27] <Ashfire908> !wvdial
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wvdial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <lambertz> my dpkg try to install  x-ttcidfont-conf but it says error, and programs a lot depends from this package
[08:27] <mesapiegrande> I can see the windows network (MSHOME) but when I try to open up the specific PC it says access denied
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: probably a lot of problems ;)
[08:28] <teKnofreak> Shaye, which language are you trying ?
[08:28] <WindsofTime> :(
[08:28] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Just for kicks though we can try re-installing xfce4-terminal with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xfce4-terminal"
[08:28] <WindsofTime> Shall I try to perform that on GNOME ? just for safety?
[08:28] <Shaye> teKnofreak, Hebrew, but it's listen everywhere, I just think I need to enable it somehow
[08:28] <jose244> hey guys im new to the community!, does anyone know if theres any devlopers willing to be my mentor?
[08:28] <Shaye> Listed*
[08:29] <Ashfire908> !wvdial
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wvdial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, No need, it's just re-installing a terminal emulator ( that you aren't even currently using )
[08:29] <lambertz> !fonts
[08:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> jose244: #ubuntu-devel
[08:29] <Rockinghorse> WindsofTime: Xubuntu is not a big dl: a gig maybe.
[08:29] <macogw> jose244: support channel
[08:29] <WindsofTime> =\
[08:29] <jose244> ok thx
[08:29] <oranye> slllllllllloooooooooo
[08:30] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Have you ever filed a bug on launchpad before/
[08:30] <Jordan_U> ?
[08:30] <WindsofTime> no sir
[08:30] <Doomguy0505> Does anybody know why ntfs partitions on my hard drive are read only?
[08:30] <Ashfire908> is there a site for wvdial?
[08:30] <gerso> hello room
[08:30] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs > Doomguy0505
[08:30] <teKnofreak> Shaye, for me, in KDE, if i go to "regional/languages' in control center, i have to install "hebrew" and then bring it to the top of the list to enable it
[08:30] <macogw> jose244: if you want to be mentored, check out launchpad.net where bugs are reported and features are wishlisted and find one you would like to help with that is offering mentors (i think it shows a swiss flag...like ski patrol...if they are)
[08:30] <macogw> Doomguy0505: because the driver is read-only :)
[08:30] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, That is probably the best way to get down to the real problem, and get it fixed so others don't also run into it
[08:31] <macogw> Doomguy0505: you need ntfs-3g for a driver that can read and write
[08:31] <WindsofTime> jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$ sudo apt-get install -- reinstall xfce4-terminal
[08:31] <WindsofTime> Reading package lists... Done
[08:31] <WindsofTime> Building dependency tree
[08:31] <WindsofTime> Reading state information... Done
[08:31] <WindsofTime> E: Couldn't find package reinstall
[08:31] <faileas> hmm
[08:31] <macogw> WindsofTime: no space
[08:31] <WindsofTime> lol
[08:31] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  but I installed it from the synpatic first
[08:31] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, No space between -- and reinstall
[08:31] <WindsofTime> I hate myself :(
[08:31] <teKnofreak> Shaye, what did you install ?
[08:31] <faileas> neat i worked out a hack to access my wubi/ubuntu images from windows ;)
[08:31] <Shaye> some packages, lol
[08:31] <gerso> i need help, here is my problem... i tried to install some usbmanager and it messed with my kernel and changed the boot file.  how can i fix this?
[08:31] <Shaye> wait ill check
[08:32] <teKnofreak> Shaye, if you have installed font, it wont enable the language
[08:32] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, bugs.ubuntu.com you will need to create an account
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Jordan ok, I did what you asked though
[08:32] <macogw> gerso: edit  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:32] <lambertz> WindsofTime: u're trying "-- reinstall"
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Where shall I go now
[08:32] <WindsofTime> Its done
[08:32] <lambertz> the correct is --reinstall
[08:32] <gerso> macogw, what exactly do i change in that file?
[08:32] <mesapiegrande> Where can I go for some help with using SAMBA to access windows shares?
[08:32] <macogw> gerso: i dont know.  i dont know what you broke
[08:32] <WindsofTime> lambertz thank you, but that was covered and now it is completed
[08:33] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok try running "xfce4-terminal" from the same terminal I had you run screen from
[08:33] <teKnofreak> mesapiegrande, #samba
[08:33] <mesapiegrande> ty teK
[08:34] <WindsofTime> This is probably no help
[08:34] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime,  I guess that means it is still broken :)
[08:34] <WindsofTime> but
[08:34] <WindsofTime> I saw the terminal before it logged me out
[08:34] <WindsofTime> Its like it opened then logged me out
[08:34] <lambertz> i did update my distr, but now i'm with seriously font problems! my dpkg is trying to install  x-ttcidfont-conf, but it returns in a error, and X can't initialize 'cause this font and their dependencies.
[08:34] <mario> exit
[08:34] <Ashfire908> can anyone help me with wvdial?
[08:34] <Parisi_work> Gimme something to do people
[08:34] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, One last trick...
[08:34] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  OK i uninstalled the packages, then went to regional/language, it installed hebrew package, now how do i type in hebrew? like in windows that u have en/he for example, and u switch with ALT+SHIFT
[08:34] <WindsofTime> Hopefully the lucky one
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Shaye: add the keyboard switcher applet to the panel.
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> Shaye: then right click on it, and select keyboard preferences. Add the keyboard you want. Default switch key is both left and right alt keys
[08:35] <teKnofreak>   ' ?
[08:36] <teKnofreak> oh hebrew is from right to left :D
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> I think japanese is top down
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> imagine the headache there lol
[08:36] <WindsofTime> or down top
[08:36] <WindsofTime> o.o
[08:36] <macogw> top down starting on the right
[08:37] <n2diy_is_watchin> Dvorak here
[08:37] <macogw> or left to right starting at the top (like we read english)
[08:37] <macogw> japanese people switch it up :P
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> japanese terminals must have insane scrollback buffers
[08:37] <WindsofTime> japanese people rox
[08:37] <macogw> signs are often vertical on the sides of buildings, and official things are vertical, but a quick note might be written horizontally
[08:37] <faileas> naw
[08:37] <faileas> they usually write it horizontally unless its formal
[08:37] <faileas> same for chinese
[08:37] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try moving the config file fore xfce4-terminal... once I can find out where it is that is :)
[08:37] <WindsofTime> lol
[08:38] <WindsofTime> ok
[08:38] <teKnofreak> anyway, each symbol is almost a word, so you can find what the entire thing means
[08:38] <WindsofTime> **Waits to find out how to do this**
[08:38] <randoman> hey guys, does anyone know why nzb isnt downloading to the dir im telling it to?
[08:38] <Shaye> teKnofreak,  thanks, it's now all good ;).
[08:38] <macogw> ?
[08:38] <randoman> and why does it ask me for a media player?
[08:38] <teKnofreak> Shaye, welcome :)
[08:38] <WindsofTime> Anyone here watch the Japanese movie "Onimujii" ??
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> yaay @ swiggles I can't understand.
[08:38] <bullgard4> English help wanted: A left-click on the GNOME_Power_Manager applet will open a shortcut menu with 3 entries. What are the English names of these 3 entries? Are they 'laptop battery (78%)', 'Standby' and 'Hibernate'?
[08:38] <Shaye> btw, is there any way to set 'language' change with the keyboard rather than left mouse click?
[08:39] <Parisi_work> bbl guys
[08:39] <macogw> fyrestrtr: it says "see? from left to right"
[08:39] <teKnofreak> Shaye, check keyboard shortcuts
[08:39] <WindsofTime> macogw you know how to read japanese?
[08:39] <WindsofTime> cool!
[08:39] <macogw> WindsofTime: i just typed in it, didnt i?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> macogw, Is there a way to have other languages show up with AA ?
[08:39] <WindsofTime> psh I could just be a translator <_<
[08:39] <WindsofTime> j/k
[08:40] <macogw> AA?
[08:40] <WindsofTime> *it
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: Laptop Battery (78%), Suspend, Hibernate
[08:40] <Jordan_U> macogw, Anti-ailiasing not the right word for when talking about fonts but hopefully you get what I mean
[08:40] <macogw> WindsofTime: 
[08:41] <macogw> Jordan_U: sorry, i dont know
[08:41] <macogw> Jordan_U: subpixel smoothing?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> macogw, Yes
[08:41] <WindsofTime> macogw, I am not a translator as my last sentence proclaim.. It was a typo =\
[08:41] <macogw> i assumed it worked on all languages installed
[08:41] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Does this apply to Gnome_Power_Manager version 2.18.2?
[08:41] <Shaye> nothing there
[08:41] <macogw> WindsofTime: i know. you said i couldve used a translator
[08:41] <Jordan_U> macogw, Do those japanese characters look blocky to you also?
[08:41] <WindsofTime> ah
[08:41] <macogw> windoi said "ive been studying for 4 years" in response
[08:42] <WindsofTime> and I did say /jk
[08:42] <faileas> not all ;)
[08:42] <WindsofTime> *j/k
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: how do I know the version?
[08:42] <macogw> WindsofTime: i meant to ping you on that.  i said "ive been studying for 4 years" in response to you saying i used a translator
[08:42] <r0b-> Nix
[08:42] <r0b-> nixternal
[08:42] <macogw> Jordan_U: theyre supposed to look blocky
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> macogw: that first character looks like a sine wave in a box :P
[08:42] <WindsofTime> and being I said j/k .. I meant it as non insulting .. so forgive me if I offended you =(
[08:43] <macogw> Jordan_U: if you smooth it, the lines would run together too much, i think
[08:43] <macogw> fyrestrtr: that's "yon" which means 4
[08:43] <lambertz> error installing mono-common, buffer_read(fd) fail, md5hash: input/output error. What I do at this moment? =(
[08:43] <Jordan_U> macogw, They don't in OSx, at lest from what I can remember
[08:43] <masterloki> just wondering what would happen if I deleted one of the bin file in root
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> macogw: 'word'
[08:44] <macogw> masterloki: bad thingw
[08:44] <macogw> *thigns
[08:44] <macogw> *things
[08:44] <WindsofTime> very bad things
[08:44] <macogw> bah i think i spell better in japanese than english
[08:44] <WindsofTime> you do quite well in both ^^
[08:44] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Right-click on this applet. A menu will open. Press on the last item 'Info'. A dialog field will open and tell you the version of your current GNOME_Power_Manager.
[08:44] <WindsofTime> **Sits patiently as Jordan finds where the config for xterminal is**
[08:44] <WindsofTime> Sorry Jordan_U for so much trouble
[08:45] <PoofDaddy> What's a .xlr file?  An excel file or similar?
[08:45] <macogw> xls is excel
[08:45] <macogw> ods is open document spreadsheet
[08:45] <macogw> ive no idea what xlr is
[08:45] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Not at all, I like a good challenge :)
[08:46] <PoofDaddy> macogw: i can't open it with ubuntu.  How do you suggest I be able to open it?
[08:46] <reflous> is there a way to disable the screensaver when mplayer is in fullscreen?
[08:46] <macogw> PoofDaddy: first, find out what the heck it is
[08:46] <joe_giampaoli> Hi all, I just remounted a FAT32 drive that used to be NTFS, I managed to munt it, but how do I make it only readable? This is the line belonging to it on fstab: /dev/hda2 /media/hda2     vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[08:47] <dice14u> hello everyone, I just got an intel quad core q6600 with an MSI - jmicron controller when I install ubuntu grub gives me an error 21
[08:47] <dice14u> I know this error means it can't read the disk
[08:48] <joe_giampaoli> (slight little bump?)*
[08:48] <masterloki> macog I guess I well not do that then just trying To understand ubuntu better
[08:48] <dice14u> but the thing is I know the disks work and are accessable
[08:50] <macogw> dice14u: i think the jmicron is the trouble
[08:50] <hat> hello
[08:50] <hat> i have problem with VLC program
[08:50] <hat> i want to open file py  UDP/RTP port by command line
[08:50] <jherrera> is ifconfig meant to run only as root?
[08:51] <dice14u> macogw thats what im getting off the forums
[08:51] <hat> how can i do that
[08:51] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I am pretty sure it's ~/.config/Terminal/
[08:51] <macogw> jherrera: no
[08:51] <teKnofreak> jherrera, am afraid yes
[08:51] <MasterShrek> jherrera, modifying the config is
[08:51] <teKnofreak> err.. no
[08:51] <macogw> jherrera: well it can print as not-root, but modifying stuff requires root
[08:51] <MasterShrek> u can look at it as a user
[08:51] <teKnofreak> jherrera, ifconfig eth0 --> no, ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.1 --> yes
[08:52] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, So try "mv ~/.config/Terminal ~/.config/Terminal-backup" then try starting xfce4-terminal again ( again from the same terminal where screen is running )
[08:52] <jherrera> kk guys
[08:52] <hat> please help me
[08:52] <jherrera> ifconfig its in sbin, so it shouldn't ve visible for all users (I think)
[08:52] <Jordan_U> !helpme | hat
[08:52] <ubotu> hat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:52] <macogw> !ask | hat
[08:53] <jherrera> I don't know why does path was modified :|
[08:53] <poningru> jherrera: ifconfig is allowed for everyone
[08:53] <poningru> err well for users executable
[08:53] <hat> i want to open file py  UDP/RTP port by command line how can i do that
[08:53] <WindsofTime> JOrdan ok
[08:53] <lambertz> error installing mono-common, buffer_read(fd) fail, md5hash: input/output error. What I do at this moment? =(
[08:53] <jherrera> does everybody has /usr/sbin in $PATH?
[08:53] <hat> vlc
[08:54] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U : jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$ ~/.config/Terminal
[08:54] <WindsofTime> bash: /home/jamescorkran/.config/Terminal: No such file or directory
[08:54] <Jordan_U> jherrera, By default yes
[08:55] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Strange... that may be the problem
[08:55] <bullgard4> jherrera: Yes, I do have in $PATH /usr/sbin in my Ubuntu 7.04.
[08:55] <jherrera> Jordan_U :O ok, I think other distros don't have it by default for users(just root)
[08:55] <WindsofTime> lol indeed
[08:57] <jherrera> bullgard4 thanks
[08:57] <WindsofTime> So it seems that the terminal doesn't have a Config file
[08:57] <macogw> jherrera: i think thats why it can print "permission denied" instead of "command not found"
[08:57] <WindsofTime> This is fixable?
[08:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Yes
[08:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I will pastebin my config file for you to try
[08:57] <jherrera> macogw, indeed, that must be the reason :)
[08:57] <Doomguy0505> How do i use ntfs-3g after installing it?
[08:57] <Jordan_U> Doomguy0505, Install ntfs-config
[08:57] <WindsofTime> As you wish
[08:58] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Though it should be created automatically when xfce4-terminal sees there is none
[08:59] <WindsofTime> =\
[09:00] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33659/ ...
[09:01] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U what would you like to save me as the text as and where?
[09:02] <dcode> /leave
[09:03] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, mkdir /.config/Terminal/ && gedit ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[09:04] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Paste it in gedit then save
[09:04] <WindsofTime> I havn't saved the config yet
[09:04] <WindsofTime> o
[09:04] <WindsofTime> ok
[09:04] <Durmant_> Hello all
[09:04] <ZAKhan> i have installed compiz and its working.. but in the update manager it keeps on showing that there is an update compiz-core but even installing it a few times it remains there .. how do i resolve it?
[09:04] <shadeofgrey> listen...  i have a huge problem..  i have absolutely no idea iof i set upo my feedburner feed thing right on my website and need someone to hit up the homepage and tell me if the damn thing works
[09:04] <lambertz> my dpkg says md5hash error, but how i fix md5 sum?
[09:04] <Durmant_> Im glad to say that I got my problems fixed from lastnight
[09:04] <Jordan_U> ZAKhan, #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <WindsofTime> mkdir: cannot create directory `/.config/Terminal/': No such file or directory
[09:05] <WindsofTime> jamescorkran@ORCHID:~$
[09:05] <Durmant_> got a new minor thing though
[09:05] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, mkdir ~/.config/Terminal/ && gedit ~/.config/Terminal/terminalrc
[09:05] <shadeofgrey> www.thetruthdirective.com if anybody has a minute
[09:05] <WindsofTime> Thats what I did
[09:05] <Durmant_> How do I make it so when I am browsing websites, when I hit the backspace key...it is like hitting the back button in the browser?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I forgot the ~ :) I really need to start proofreading my commands
[09:05] <WindsofTime> lol
[09:05] <WindsofTime> alright
[09:05] <shadeofgrey> hey by the way
[09:06] <Jordan_U> That and go to sleep :)
[09:06] <WindsofTime> It is saved
[09:06] <WindsofTime> Sorry to keep you up =\
[09:06] <shadeofgrey> does anybody here know if the new version of ubuntu can take advantage of the eight cores in the newest macpro
[09:06] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Ok, same deal run xfce4-terminal from the same terminal screen is running in
[09:06] <WindsofTime> ok
[09:06] <WindsofTime> this terminal screen
[09:06] <WindsofTime> o.O
[09:07] <WindsofTime> Since I logged out it closed the terminal that we did the screen command on
[09:07] <WindsofTime> so I had to open another terminal
[09:07] <WindsofTime> this ok?
[09:07] <n2diy> Durmant_: just hit the backspace key?
[09:07] <shadeofgrey> i asked the dream foundation for a macpro desktop with 8 gig of ram a shitload of diskspace and the Nvidia Quadro 4500 video card and they actually fucking did!
[09:07] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I would assume so, it can handle *many* more than that on servers
[09:07] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, Please do not curse
[09:07] <WindsofTime> This is a family-oriented enviroment
[09:08] <Durmant> Anybody know?
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> sorry WindsofTime -- im just -- more excited than ive ever been in my whole life
[09:08] <Durmant> nope
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Thats quite alright :)
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> ive never once owned a dream machine
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Nor have I
[09:08] <Durmant> backspace at the moment just brings me to the top of the webpage
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Im using an 7yr old comp
[09:08] <shadeofgrey> they even went for getting me two dell 30" displays and a wacom tablet
[09:08] <WindsofTime> that was made with spare parts :)
[09:08] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U
[09:09] <WindsofTime> Watch closley now
[09:09] <WindsofTime> If I logout
[09:09] <WindsofTime> you know why ^_^
[09:09] <Durmant> Its kinda annoying
[09:09] <leagris> Can someone help on debuging "add_to_rules: PHYSDEV* values are deprecated" at boot time on my laptop? Here is a paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33546/
[09:09] <WindsofTime> 3..2...1.. Here I go
[09:09] <WindsofTime> Durmant Im not trying to
[09:09] <macogw> Durmant: "about:config" in firefox should have it somewhere
[09:10] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, do you think ubuntu can handle two displays at the same time?
[09:10] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, :(
[09:10] <WindsofTime> And there we have it
[09:10] <macogw> shadeofgrey: sure it can
[09:10] <WindsofTime> It seems this is unfixable
[09:10] <macogw> shadeofgrey: its more a question of your video card though
[09:10] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I remember you telling me to use gksudo instead of sudo
[09:10] <n2diy> ! twinveiw | shadeofgrey
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinveiw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <WindsofTime> when creating the buttons on the panel
[09:10] <WindsofTime> That did work
[09:10] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, File a bug
[09:10] <macogw> WindsofTime: it makes it pop up like synaptic does
[09:10] <shadeofgrey> macogw, okay...  well im getting the nvidia quadro 4500 card with 512 meg of video ram and dual dual dvi ports
[09:11] <n2diy> hmm
[09:11] <WindsofTime> macogw, um what?
[09:11] <macogw> WindsofTime: nevermind
[09:11] <WindsofTime> lol
[09:11] <WindsofTime> alright
[09:11] <Durmant> well ill try that out
[09:11] <WindsofTime> Jordan
[09:11] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, could you take ten seconds and just hit up my site and tell me if i set up my RSS feed correctly?
[09:11] <macogw> shadeofgrey: *shrug* read what the bog said. im just pointing out that depending on the graphics card itll be easy / hard / impossible.  since its nvidia and not ati, im guessing possible
[09:11] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, please give me the link I will take only 10 secs
[09:11] <WindsofTime> no more
[09:11] <macogw> *bot
[09:11] <macogw> darnit
[09:12] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, www.thetruthdirective.com
[09:12] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U , Um how do I make this work as a script without using terminal (./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf)
[09:12] <WindsofTime> thats the command line to start my IRC bot
[09:12] <J_5> what is the command to see what processes are running?
[09:12] <n2diy> macgow, the bot is called ubotu
[09:13] <macogw> J_5: ps -e
[09:13] <macogw> n2diy: i know. i just refer to it as the bot
[09:13] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, it works fine
[09:13] <J_5> thanks, how do i kill a process?
[09:13] <macogw> n2diy: thats tricky spelling. and i still want to call him ubugtu :P
[09:13] <n2diy> macgow, ok.
[09:13] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, okay thank you
[09:13] <afd_> hi! I have several network cards in my computer, how do I choose which one is eth0? I don't have access to the graphic interface...
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> J_5: kill processid
[09:13] <J_5> thanks!
[09:13] <WindsofTime> or simply
[09:14] <n2diy> macgow, ubugtu? Whatz that??
[09:14] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, If you need it to run in a terminal to see the output then do something like: gnome-terminal ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf
[09:14] <WindsofTime> that would be the command line?
[09:14] <shadeofgrey> WindsofTime, now tell me hiow hard you think it would be to dual boot leopard and ubuntu when my macpro arrives in the mail...  should i be installing the 64 bit version or no?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, If you don't need to see the output then just ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf should work
[09:14] <shadeofgrey> because last time i tried the 64 bit vcersion app anddriver support was -- uhh -- lacking to a profane degree
[09:15] <macogw> n2diy: there used to be 2 bots
[09:15] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U What I need is to see a terminal open up being that is the only way to communicate with the bot
[09:15] <WindsofTime> shadeofgrey, I am not the one to ask being I do no know
[09:15] <macogw> n2diy: ! went with ubotu and @ went with ubugtu usually, i think
[09:15] <shadeofgrey> okay
[09:15] <WindsofTime> Sorry
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> afd_: you want to select one to be eth0, or you just want to find out which one is eth0?
[09:15] <macogw> n2diy: and if you said bug # then the numbers ubugtu printed out info about it.  a few months ago, they merged the bots
[09:16] <shadeofgrey> has anyboldy here ever set up a dual boot environment of tiger and ubuntu on a macbookpro or a macpro desktop with an nvidia graphics card?
[09:16] <n2diy> macgow, ok.
[09:16] <Durmant> awesome
[09:16] <Durmant> found it
[09:16] <Durmant> next thing
[09:16] <Durmant> for those of you who have laptops
[09:16] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U !!! Possibly this may help!!!
[09:16] <macogw> shadeofgrey: wish i could. i hate tiger
[09:16] <shadeofgrey> i still have time to switch my machine choice to the macbookpro laptop with the nvidia graphics card if that would be easier
[09:16] <macogw> shadeofgrey: there are howtos online
[09:17] <Durmant> in windows I can use the right side of my mouse pad to scroll.....is there a way I can do that in ubuntu?
[09:17] <shadeofgrey> and they would like that a lot more because it costs a lot leess
[09:17] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, There is no wiki page on how to do it, it could be fairly strait foreword or a real pain ( new macs tend to be weird and not work with Ubuntu well )
[09:17] <macogw> Durmant: yes. its in the xorg.conf i think
[09:17] <WindsofTime> I put the command for the button as a normal ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf  >> Being gnome terminal ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf wouldn't work >> and the result was this "Failed to execute child process "./eggdrop" (Permission denied)"
[09:17] <macogw> Durmant: if its a synaptics keyboard, the easy way is to install GSynaptics
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> Durmant: it should be active by default.
[09:17] <Durmant> thats what I got
[09:17] <WindsofTime> Perhaps the permissions of the terminal itself are not right? o_O
[09:17] <WindsofTime> Im only guessing at this
[09:17] <w00t> hi guys, is there any wireless adaper that hooks up in floopy drive?
[09:18] <Durmant> can I find that in synaptic?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> w00t: nope.
[09:18] <macogw> w00t: floppy?!
[09:18] <macogw> Durmant: yeah
[09:18] <Durmant> awesome
[09:18] <macogw> w00t: are computers with floppy drives even made nowadays?
[09:18] <w00t> my laptop is.
[09:18] <dice14u> thats weird
[09:18] <macogw> w00t: you can do USB or PCMCIA
[09:19] <dice14u> floppy drives lol
[09:19] <macogw> w00t: i havent seen a laptop with floppy in ages...and those ones had a spare floppy drive that youd shove in after yanking out the cd drive. they werent always there
[09:19] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Might be, might be harder, there is a wiki page for macbook pro's but it is not a good tutotial IMHO and may not be up to date with the newest release
[09:19] <jherrera> w00t woot?
[09:19] <jherrera> hell no
[09:19] <w00t> mmk.
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> I haven't see a floppy disk in ages.
[09:20] <WindsofTime> fyrestrtr, I have over 100+ floppies sitting here..not much to do with them
[09:20] <dice14u> I have one of the original drives where the floppy wasn't in a case
[09:20] <Durmant> hmmmm
[09:20] <dice14u> its litteraly floppy lol
[09:20] <Durmant> I have it installed now.....but I dont know how to open it
[09:20] <WindsofTime> **Testing**
[09:21] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name
[09:21] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Looks like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro has no info on the new models ( did a quick search for nvidia, nothing found )
[09:21] <macogw> i have a box 5" and one of 3" floppies
[09:21] <macogw> Durmant: its in the menus
[09:21] <macogw> Durmant: have to edit xorg.conf a little first though
[09:21] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name
[09:21] <WindsofTime> T_T...Didn't work
[09:21] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name...
[09:21] <Durmant> nope
[09:22] <Durmant> Just checked all the menus at the top
[09:22] <macogw> Durmant: itll tell you what to put in xorg.conf
[09:22] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I have a first gen macbook pro so I can help a little once you get whatever you get ( I try to keep up on Linux on Mactel info )
[09:22] <macogw> Durmant: it should be there...probably in preferences
[09:23] <macogw> Durmant: try right clicking the menu and going to edit menus then enabling the control center. i know it should show in there
[09:23] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Right-click on the Gnome_Power_Manager applet. A menu will open. Press on the last item 'Info'. A dialog field will open and tell you the version of your current GNOME_Power_Manager. What version number do you have?
[09:23] <Durmant> Bastards labeled it as touchpad instead of its name lol
[09:23] <macogw> Durmant: oo ok haha
[09:23] <Durmant> what is the command to edit xorg:conf
[09:23] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U , forgive me but this is a new problem.. I have a keyboard here that has media controls (Play,Stop,Forward,VolumeControl,Ect.) Now when I use rythmbox to play my music the mediacontrol buttons do not function except for the MUTE button.. How and can this be fixed?
[09:23] <macogw> Durmant: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <macogw> Durmant: put in whatever the error box told you to
[09:24] <Durmant> yep
[09:24] <Jordan_U> !mediakeys | WindsofTime
[09:24] <ubotu> WindsofTime: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:24] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I am in Xubuntu.. there isn't a System Preferences thing
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: 2.18.4
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> whoops
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> bullgard4: 2.18.2
[09:25] <carretto> help!!!! last.fm rhythmbox dont show song and artist name Pleas
[09:25] <bullgard4> fyrestrtr: Thank you very much for being helpful.
[09:25] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, One bit of advice, no matter what mactel you get follow ( loosly if it is not macbook ) the instruction @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook
[09:25] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Ah! I found the keyboard preferences..only thing is I do not know the command line the link to each key =\
[09:26] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, IRRC you just click on the action then press the key you want to associate it with
[09:27] <Durmant> Its telling me SHMonfig has to be set to true....but its not telling me where in the file...like under what section
[09:27] <Jordan_U> *IIRC :)
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: try installing hotkeys
[09:27] <WindsofTime> o_O
[09:27] <Durmant> Maybe an option for the input device?
[09:27] <WindsofTime> I had to go to Settings > Keyboard Settings (Xubuntu)
[09:27] <WindsofTime> I dont see nothing about actions
[09:28] <macogw> Durmant: h/o lemme look it up
[09:28] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try keyboard shortcuts
[09:28] <Durmant> ok :-)
[09:28] <macogw> Durmant: in the section "input device" for the synaptics touchpad
[09:28] <jeffwheeler> It seems Tribe 4 livecd is trying to constantly access the cd; is this normal?
[09:28] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U lemme give you a screen shot
[09:29] <dragon> jeffwheeler: huh?
[09:29] <macogw> jeffwheeler: youre running from the CD
[09:29] <macogw> jeffwheeler: what else do you expect it to do?
[09:29] <jeffwheeler> macogw: I understand, but normally it will take breaks here and there when it is idle and has stuff cached
[09:29] <Jordan_U> jeffwheeler, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy
[09:29] <jeffwheeler> Jordan_U: thanks
[09:30] <jeffwheeler> macogw: in this case, it has been running constantly for more than 30 minutes
[09:30] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U :  http://windsoftime.servegame.org/pics.html
[09:30] <dragon> jeffwheeler: is it a bug?
[09:30] <dragon> or it's hardware issues.?
[09:30] <Durmant> hmmm....after I enter that option do I have to relog after I save?
[09:30] <jeffwheeler> dragon: not sure, I was curious if anybody else had seen it
[09:30] <Durmant> or should it just work
[09:30] <macogw> jeffwheeler: oh ok i see....i thought maybe just starting up or something...cd drive speed & amount of ram may be factors...
[09:31] <macogw> Durmant: not sure, might need to restart X
[09:31] <Durmant> ok brb
[09:31] <jeffwheeler> macogw: yeah, in the past the live cds have run fine, so I suspect it's a hardware compatibility issue
[09:31] <KenSentMe> Does anybody know what happened to the Ubuntustudio website and where people can download the ubuntustudio release?
[09:31] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, All I know is that in Gnome what you want is in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:31] <dragon> KenSentMe: try google.com/linux ubuntu studio +)
[09:31] <macogw> KenSentMe: you can install ubuntu then install the ubuntu-studio package from within it...
[09:31] <WindsofTime> Then Jordan_U I will switch to GNOME ^^
[09:32] <WindsofTime> Will it still come through into X?
[09:32] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, You mean XFCE ? I am not sure
[09:32] <WindsofTime> no
[09:32] <WindsofTime> Xubuntu
[09:32] <WindsofTime> or that
[09:32] <WindsofTime> XD...Im getting tired myself <_<
[09:32] <WindsofTime> I will try it and see
[09:32] <WindsofTime> :)
[09:32] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Xubuntu is Ubuntu + XFCE
[09:32] <WindsofTime> lol
[09:33] <WindsofTime> indeed
[09:33] <Durmant> nope
[09:33] <Durmant> lets try it under mouse
[09:34] <KenSentMe> macogw, i know, but someone here wants to download the originial ubuntu studio iso
[09:34] <bullgard4> English help wanted: In the upper left, left-click on the applet Gnome_Power_Manager > 'Laptop Battery (78%)'. An information window will appear. The information starts with "Product: Battery Bay". What is the rest 11 lines of text in English?
[09:34] <dragon> KenSentMe: try searching for it on, google.com/linux like i said,
[09:34] <Durmant> nope
[09:34] <OverLord> do you know any softwares for change the office of my ubuntu as screenlets ?
[09:34] <Durmant> still doesnt work
[09:34] <dragon> or KenSentMe sudo apt-get source package
[09:34] <KenSentMe> dragon, doing that, thanks
[09:34] <Durmant> damn
[09:35] <Durmant> It is supposed to be put in as an option right?
[09:35] <dragon> np KenSentMe
[09:36] <WindsofTime> Well..the shortcuts work here in GNOME..not in Xubuntu
[09:36] <macogw> OverLord: change the office of your ubuntu?
[09:36] <WindsofTime> and my screen just went weird
[09:37] <Rowan> i messed up my linux partition so bad :\
[09:37] <OverLord> MACOgw : yes
[09:37] <Rowan> i forgot that i can't see login screen so i put it on auto-login
[09:37] <pvl> how do reset sound settings?
[09:37] <Rowan> and then i took it off
[09:37] <Rowan> now i can't load ubuntu..
[09:37] <Rowan> :\
[09:37] <macogw> OverLord: that sentence doesnt make any sense
[09:37] <OverLord> it's normally i'm french lol
[09:38] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, Looks like it's down, try http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:T4A-TeqrVXAJ:ubuntustudio.org/downloads+ubuntu+studio&hl=en&strip=1 for links to mirrors
[09:38] <KenSentMe> Jordan_U, thanks
[09:38] <OverLord> macogw, i would like to change, the aspect of my ubuntu, do you see what i want ?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> KenSentMe, np
[09:38] <pvl> does any1 know how to reset alsa settings?
[09:39] <macogw> OverLord: um....do mean you want to change the theme?
[09:39] <OverLord> Yes maco
[09:39] <macogw> OverLord: system > preferences > theme
[09:39] <OverLord> ..
[09:39] <garryFre> Do you mean you want office apps to all open in separate windows instead of one window with tabs?
[09:40] <OverLord> yes but there are another for change all my office ?
[09:40] <macogw> OverLord: you can go to gnome-looks.org and download themes (as .tar.gz files) then drag n drop them into the theme picker
[09:40] <OverLord> ok cool
[09:40] <macogw> OverLord: you mean the icon theme for open office?
[09:40] <OverLord> yes maco
[09:40] <macogw> OverLord: ooooo
[09:40] <garryFre> pvl, , yep alsamixer to set it, exit it then alsactl store
[09:40] <Durmant> boo
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Is there a way to make certain apps start up in certain workspaces ?
[09:40] <ryo> K, first question, anyone here familiar with Gutsy?
[09:41] <Shaye> guys after installing ubuntu i can play mp3s but the quality is terrible, do u have any idea what can be done to fix this? I mean, I can hear sound but as mentioned, the quality is very low... using gigabytes on board sound card.
[09:41] <Flannel> ryo: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks
[09:41] <carretto> somebody use rhythmbox?
[09:41] <ryo> k, thanks
[09:41] <macogw> OverLord: um...well you can pick your icon theme in the theme setting.  i think OOo's theme will change too
[09:41] <LiberCogito> !gutsy | ryo
[09:41] <ubotu> ryo: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:41] <OverLord> ok maco thanks for you help
[09:41] <macogw> Jordan_U: devils pie
[09:41] <pvl> garryFre may califry a bit more please?
[09:42] <Yuiop_Laptop> balls and weiners
[09:42] <garryFre> pvl can try ye need to do it in a terminal window sudo alsamixer and then when you exit, sudo alsactl store
[09:43] <macogw> !ops Yuiop_Laptop is being vulgar
[09:43] <pvl> garryfre oh i see it now ty
[09:43] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U why would my screen warp all of a sudden when I was using GNOME??
[09:43] <garryFre> pvl welcome
[09:43] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Define warp or post a screenshot
[09:43] <macogw> !ops | Yuiop_Laptop is being vulgar
[09:43] <ubotu> Yuiop_Laptop is being vulgar: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:43] <Yuiop_Laptop> macogw: im guessing you have not seen the movie
[09:44] <macogw> its a childsafe channel dude
[09:44] <Yuiop_Laptop> my bad
[09:44] <Myrtti> Yuiop_Laptop: try to behave? watch your language or I'll have to step in and act like an op
[09:44] <gordonjcp> um
[09:44] <gordonjcp> what did Yuiop_Laptop say?
[09:44] <kanedaddy> good
[09:44] <macogw> unless youre talking about sports and daschunds...shhh
[09:45] <Yuiop_Laptop> gordonjcp: i said balls and weiners
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[09:45] <garryFre> lol
[09:45] <EvilDin> hi, how could i do bridge between two lan network cards eth1 and eth2
[09:45] <Myrtti> and please folks, keep the offtopic out of here
[09:45] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[09:45] <Shaye> guys after installing ubuntu i can play mp3s but the quality is terrible, do u have any idea what can be done to fix this? I mean, I can hear sound but as mentioned, the quality is very low... using gigabytes on board sound card.
[09:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:45] <gordonjcp> how is that vulgar?
[09:45] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U the screen sections off into 4, the 2 top ones show black accented with rainbow like lines.. the colors of the bottom two have changed
[09:45] <gordonjcp> yeah, lets -> offtopic
[09:45] <Yuiop_Laptop> i dunno lol that dude just freaked
[09:45] <Jordan_U> immature, not vulgar, not necessary though
[09:45] <garryFre> under either system/admin or preferences you should find some program that allows you to choose the soundcard to use.
[09:46] <Myrtti> this is the support channel so let's keep it that way, please
[09:46] <macogw> gordonjcp: certain body parts dont fall in the "childsafe" category of vocabulary
[09:46] <gordonjcp> macogw: like what?
[09:46] <Yuiop_Laptop> omg..its from that new movie i now pronounce you chuck and larry
[09:46] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Strange, can you take a screenshot?
[09:46] <Yuiop_Laptop> adam sandler answers the phones like that
[09:47] <macogw> gordonjcp: you should be able to figure out what body parts are inappropriate to discuss around children
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> i already apologized
[09:47] <macogw> Yuiop_Laptop: and that movie not rated G, is it?
[09:47] <gordonjcp> macogw: yeah, but I don't get the reference
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> yeah its rated pg-13
[09:47] <gordonjcp> macogw: he didn't actually mention body parts, I don't think
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> and i really doubt anyone in here is under 13
[09:47] <macogw> gordonjcp: he named 2 of them which are found on males and not on us
[09:47] <gordonjcp> macogw: I don't understand
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> weiners = hotdogs? and balls= toys?
[09:47] <pvl> garryfre i need a bit more help, through th terminal i went into the asla mixer thing, and for microphone theres no setting, u cant change it. thats really all my problem is
[09:47] <gordonjcp> well, I see where you might get balls there
[09:47] <Yuiop_Laptop> i have neither on my body
[09:48] <gordonjcp> you people are *weird*
[09:48] <gordonjcp> seriously seriously weird
[09:48] <Yuiop_Laptop> loool
[09:48] <Myrtti> ok folks, LETS MOVE ON
[09:48] <macogw> hah ok
[09:48] <gordonjcp> indeed
[09:48] <Myrtti> signal/noise ratio is too high
[09:49] <Yuiop_Laptop> garryFre: are you trying to get sound on a toshiba laptop by chance
[09:49] <garryFre> pvl Hmm, I think you have to hit arrow keys to highlight your channels, were it say MM hit space bar or it might be the zero key , then up arrow key to increase volume. Once that's done you use alsactl store to save the changes
[09:49] <tictoc> go to #politics if you want a decent debate on anhything
[09:49] <cafuego> tictoc: Are you implying decent debates can be had on irc?
[09:49] <raz00m> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/
[09:49] <pvl> garryfre i think that worked, not sure ima check
[09:49] <garryFre> Arging with the moderator is like kicking cactus.
[09:50] <sruthi> HIIIIIIIIIII
[09:50] <garryFre> pvl kmix might be easier
[09:50] <pvl> garrfre that an app?
[09:50] <terapicodave> is there an easy app out there to play matroska files?
[09:51] <garryFre> pvl yep, a command line app in Sabayon Linux, I think its part of kde.
[09:51] <nomin> does ext3 usually resize ok without losing any data?
[09:51] <dragon> terapicodave: matroska?
[09:51] <gordonjcp> nomin: usually, yes
[09:51] <dragon> what the hell is that?
[09:51] <faileas> nomin: in my experience ya
[09:51] <tictoc> or.. is there an easy build o nix that doesnt want some mental command to boot installm on my laptop ?
[09:51] <gordonjcp> nomin: unless you resize it smaller than the bit with data on
[09:52] <faileas> dragon: a codec? :)
[09:52] <dragon> is it?
[09:52] <nomin> gordonjcp: ok, because I'm about to increase the size of it.
[09:52] <gordonjcp> nomin: ;-)
[09:52] <gordonjcp> that works just great
[09:53] <adaptr> dragon actually, it's a container format for streaming media
[09:54] <nomin> gordonjcp: uh-oh.  "resize2fs failed".  I'm using the mandriva one live cd.
[09:54] <terapicodave> i missed it, did someone haev a good app for matroska?
[09:54] <macogw> terapicodave: vlc
[09:54] <macogw> terapicodave: i think
[09:54] <faileas> yeah
[09:54] <terapicodave> vlc crashes for me when i try
[09:55] <gordonjcp> nomin: hrm, error message?
[09:55] <terapicodave> have 0.8.6 though...not sure if a newer version is needed
[09:55] <dragon1711> I love Ubuntu as much as I hate it!!!!!!
[09:55] <nomin> gordonjcp: yes.
[09:55] <EvilDin> i have 3 cards, one is access to internet other two should work like switch in same subnet, how could i do that ?
[09:55] <carretto> I... I need a rhythmbox 0.11 for feisty
[09:55] <nomin> gordonjcp: looks like it didn't do anything.  I'm thinking that the program is buggy on this live cd.
[09:56] <dragon1711> sound wont work damn
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> carretto: why?..
[09:56] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U I cannot
[09:56] <dragon1711> cos modem thinks of itself as snd
[09:56] <dragon1711> :)
[09:56] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Its hard to see what it is doing..so I cannot even see where it is saving it =\
[09:57] <WindsofTime> It only did it once
[09:57] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Try hitting print screen then return, it should save it to your desktop
[09:57] <kraut> moin
[09:57] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U : Tell me, what can I lose if anything if I revert back to just using GNOME and leaving XCFE alone?
[09:58] <NeTcOwBoy> hey ppl
[09:58] <NeTcOwBoy> am new
[09:58] <dragon1711> techguys say "have fun".... well I do have a lot of fun (more then a week of fucking around modem and sound arguing for being sound)
[09:58] <NeTcOwBoy> AM downloadng Ubuntu nw tll me about it
[09:58] <pvl> argh my sound recorder wont load bc my settings are invalid
[09:58] <WindsofTime> dragon1711 please do not cus
[09:58] <carretto> IndyGunFreak: in my version 0.10, last.fm plugin dont show a song and artist name
[09:58] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Nothing really, Gnome has for the most part all of the functionality of XFCE Plus some, it is more resource intensive, but that's about it
[09:59] <Patrick_> Helloz.
[09:59] <NeTcOwBoy> hello ppl
[09:59] <Patrick_> Helloz
[09:59] <WindsofTime> Jordan_U Thats it?... It even has a bit more features than X?... and only takes a bit more resources..how much more resources would you say
[09:59] <IndyGunFreak> carretto: i don't know, try downloading it and compiling it.
[09:59] <dragon1711> guys, sorry for my mood, but does anybody know what to do when your modem acts like snd device?
[10:00] <NeTcOwBoy> ppl
[10:00] <adaptr> turn the sound off ?
[10:00] <chrisLAbeard> anyone ever used synergy w/ ubuntu ?
[10:00] <phreck_> Need help with ATI drivers
[10:00] <Nimsoc_82> hi
[10:01] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, Calling "Xubuntu" or XFCE "X" is confusing because the backbone of the GUI for *nix is called X
[10:01] <dragon1711> yes, and intel HD AC'97 snd is blacklisted by ubuntu
[10:01] <dragon> hd?
[10:01] <phreck_> High Definition
[10:01] <dragon> or sound card
[10:01] <pvl> i cant load sound recorder because my settings are invalid any1 have any tips?
[10:01] <phreck_> Anyone know how to compile and install ATI drivers?
[10:01] <dragon1711> and some strange thing called atiixp_snd comes out
[10:01] <dragon1711> ati? i guess i do
[10:02] <Jordan_U> phreck, Why? Does restricted manager not work?
[10:02] <phreck_> Jordan- yea, they arent working.
[10:02] <Jordan_U> phreck, Or do you mean the open source drivers?
[10:02] <dragon1711> what kind of ati is it?
[10:02] <WindsofTime> Ok then Sorry Jordan_U
[10:02] <phreck_> Mobility 1150, ive used them before
[10:02] <phreck_> forgot what i did before though
[10:02] <phreck_> Jordan: i have the ati packg downloaded
[10:03] <tictoc> wow
[10:03] <tictoc> im never bein able to crossover to nix
[10:03] <Nimsoc_82> I'm using LinuxDc++ on Ubuntu and I don't now how to select a Cable connection.Can anybody help me pls?
[10:03] <Jordan_U> WindsofTime, I don't know exactly how much more but if you havn't noticed a difference then you probably have a fast enough comp / enough RAM for it to not make a huge difference
[10:03] <tictoc> ms nazis got me thru my hd audio
[10:03] <tictoc> :)))
[10:03] <phreck_> Jordan, any ideas?
[10:04] <tictoc> get mac is all i can think of
[10:04] <Catsceo> umm, where are .deb's saved when you just download them, not installed them?  (ie sudo apt-get -d install <package>)
[10:04] <dragon1711> well on ati homepage there is a link to unofficial guide
[10:05] <medfly> im trying to install a driver for my S3 unichrome intergrated graphics card thing. i got the driver from their website, this is what happened when i tried to make it work - http://rafb.net/p/UihJVv95.html should i assume it just wont work?
[10:05] <TylerJGillies> ubuntu made me delete windows
[10:05] <acid> raz00m: hello. how are you?
[10:05] <pvl> good riddence
[10:05] <faileas> medfly: i've gotten it working before...
[10:05] <medfly> faileas, seriously?
[10:05] <medfly> faileas, please share!
[10:06] <acid> pesdato 4el
[10:06] <Jordan_U> phreck, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:06] <faileas> there's a premade driver... one moment, i go lool
[10:06] <dragon1711> if workd for my x1300 and for radeon 9700 pro
[10:06] <faileas> look
[10:06] <raz00m> acid: )
[10:06] <acid> peshi pa-alnanski
[10:06] <acid> )))
[10:06] <acid> albanski*
[10:06] <medfly> faileas, ill try that one aswell :)
[10:06] <medfly> faileas, oh, tehres one for ubnutu, coolio
[10:06] <raz00m> pysskie est'?
[10:06] <dragon1711> only they did not mention to blacklist your previous (restricted) fglrx
[10:06] <medfly> (meaning it might work!)
[10:07] <acid> u menya est'
[10:07] <acid> a u etix eblanov xz
[10:07] <raz00m> :)))
[10:07] <acid> :D
[10:07] <faileas> medfly: its a deb, if you link the site, i'll let you know id its the same one
[10:07] <dragon1711> and if you do not do that you ll have blank screen
[10:07] <acid> UBUNTU dlya ebanuntu
[10:07] <phreck_> http://wiki.cchtml.com/ is dead
[10:07] <acid> 8)
[10:07] <medfly> faileas, well, mine is supposed to be for K8M800 motherboards, or something. so i think i need a driver specific to that
[10:07] <faileas> naw
[10:08] <medfly> oh?
[10:08] <faileas> there was a site with a lot of em
[10:08] <medfly> faileas, viaarena.com?
[10:08] <Jordan_U> medfly, Try installing build-essential
[10:08] <faileas> no
[10:08] <medfly> Jordan_U, i got build-essential
[10:08] <roqp> I want to upgrade my ubuntu to 7.04 using the gui. It went without any problems until the upgrader tried to stop mysqld. That seems not to success, the upgrade doesn't continue. What should I do to complete it? Stopping mysqld myself?
[10:08] <acid> raz00m: HTTP://ANTIGOP-L4.NAROD.RU
[10:09] <Patrick_> medfly: Hey.
[10:09] <medfly> Patrick_, hello
[10:09] <Patrick_> Supz.
[10:09] <Catsceo> I'll ask again, where are .deb's saved when you just download them, not installed them?  (ie sudo apt-get -d install <package>)
[10:09] <acid> BLYAAAAAAAAA
[10:09] <Flannel> Catsceo: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:09] <adaptr> Catsceo in exactly the same place
[10:09] <acid> razoom, sorry: HTTP://ANTIGOP-K4.NAROD.RU
[10:09] <Jordan_U> medfly, I am not quite sure why it wants ( or seems to want ) Xfree86 unless it is very old
[10:10] <Catsceo> thanks flannel
[10:10] <raz00m> albanec bla)
[10:10] <dragon1711> http://www.incunabulum.de/blog/archive/2007/07/26/ati-x1300-and-ubuntu-installation-woes-and-success
[10:10] <adaptr> acid none of that, please
[10:10] <acid> a hule... uvi
[10:10] <raz00m> =)
[10:10] <dragon1711> this one really helped
[10:10] <acid> adaptr, what?
[10:10] <Durmant> I still cant get gsynaptics working :-(
[10:10] <Jordan_U> medfly, Possibly try installing xorg-dev
[10:10] <Durmant> I found a tutorial and everything for it
[10:10] <Durmant> fubar
[10:10] <Flannel> acid: english only in this channel, thanks.
[10:11] <Shaye> guys after installing ubuntu i can play mp3s but the quality is terrible, do u have any idea what can be done to fix this? I mean, I can hear sound but as mentioned, the quality is very low... using gigabytes on board sound card.
[10:11] <acid> Why only english?
[10:11] <adaptr> what type of soundcard ? is it using ALSA ?
[10:11] <adaptr> acid because this is an English channel
[10:11] <acid>   :)
[10:11] <Jordan_U> Shaye, What is the output of "asoundconf list" ?
[10:11] <Flannel> !ru | acid
[10:11] <ubotu> acid:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:11] <adaptr> not *the* English channel, mind you - you a
[10:11] <raz00m> i love ubuntu is here http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/
[10:11] <roqp> i thought it was international :o
[10:12] <adaptr> it is - and english spoken
[10:12] <medfly> Jordan_U, well, that didnt work. (getting xorg-dev). shoudl i just try to change the locations its looking for?
[10:12] <Shaye> Jordan_U,
[10:12] <Shaye> shay@desktop:~$ asoundconf list
[10:12] <Shaye> Names of available sound cards:
[10:12] <Shaye> Intel
[10:12] <Patrick_> Yeh.
[10:12] <acid> ok
[10:12] <jscinoz> Does the 7.10 Tribe 4 live dvd work on santa rosa laptops yet?
[10:13] <Durmant> You guys have any ideas about why gsynaptics is still giving me the error saying I gotta put SHMConfig true in the xorg.conf?
[10:13] <Jordan_U> medfly, I don't know, it seems to be made for XFree86, I am not sure what it will do with Xorg
[10:13] <dragon1711>     ?
[10:13] <adaptr> dragon1711 that goes for you too
[10:13] <Flannel> jscinoz: Believe so.  But, #ubuntu+1 is the place for gutsy support
[10:13] <dragon1711> what goes for me?
[10:13] <acid> 3,14159zdec
[10:13] <Durmant> PI
[10:14] <adaptr> English only, please
[10:14] <jscinoz> hmm
[10:14] <dragon1711> ok
[10:14] <TylerJGillies> ubuntu has to hvae the most interesting release names ever
[10:14] <Shaye> Jordan_U, could it be drivers issue?
[10:14] <Flannel> TylerJGillies: the releases are just numbers.  The codenames for development are the adj. animal
[10:14] <jscinoz> One other thing, i can't burn the iso image, its the dvd image and clocks in at 4.4GB yet it states the image is too large
[10:14] <faileas> medfly: can't find the same one, its a bit annoying since i did it on another system
[10:14] <Jordan_U> Shaye, No idea
[10:15] <Durmant> Am I supposed to have a "Mouse" section and a "Synaptics" section in my xorg file?
[10:15] <TylerJGillies> Flannel: i know i was just commenting on the peculiarity of it
[10:15] <wam> Hi, is there anything better than rsync or scp for downloading ~4GB via ssh/sftp? I always get disconnects from my cable provider and have to start from scratch. I'd like something like HTTP-Continue via sftp ;)
[10:15] <acid> raz00m: cover me!
[10:15] <acid> go go go!)
[10:15] <Flannel> Durmant: synaptics is your touchpad, mouse would be whatever other mouse sort of things
[10:16] <Durmant> I dont have another mouse sort of thing
[10:16] <Durmant> touchpad is all I have
[10:16] <TylerJGillies> wam: try wget -c
[10:16] <Flannel> Durmant: But you could, if you plug one in
[10:16] <Jordan_U> Shaye, This shouldn't do anything but can't hurt to try, so run "asoundconf set-default-card Intel"
[10:16] <TylerJGillies> wam: don't know if it supports ssh though
[10:16] <medfly> faileas, well, it looks like theres only a source driver for the k8m800, did you try to say i dont need something specific for k8m800?
[10:16] <PHu1> |hi
[10:16] <medfly> faileas, im trying to use the one that isnt distro-specific
[10:16] <Durmant> lol I suppose....Im just looking for reasons as to why I cant open gsynaptic
[10:17] <faileas> medfly: there was a site with just ubuntu drivers, for almost all the unichrome family
[10:17] <vasilije> does anyone know if I can get 2 monitors working on ATI Radeon, one on vga on on s-video
[10:17] <Durmant> GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[10:17] <Durmant> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[10:17] <faileas> i'll try to get CT booted up to check
[10:17] <acid> stupid chat(
[10:17] <Durmant> I put that option in there
[10:17] <Durmant> and rebooted
[10:17] <Durmant> still the same
[10:17] <Jordan_U> vasilije, I think you can with fglrx
[10:18] <TylerJGillies> alcohol + irc = blurry text
[10:18] <medfly> faileas, well, theres alot on the viaarena.com website, all for ubuntu too.
[10:18] <pvl> sound recorder wont load because my sound settings are invalid anyone know a solution?
[10:19] <TylerJGillies> pvl: what kind of card do you have?
[10:19] <pvl> tylergillies i dunno, doubt its ac97. anyway to find out?
[10:19] <TylerJGillies> pvl: hat bus it it on? (e.g. pic, isa)
[10:20] <TylerJGillies> s/pic/pci/
[10:20] <TylerJGillies> woah typo city
[10:20] <pvl> tylergillies still have me  clueless, sorry?
[10:20] <Patrick_> Yah.
[10:20] <Patrick_> Heh.
[10:20] <TylerJGillies> pvl is it a pci soundcard or isa or other?
[10:20] <pvl> i assume pci
[10:21] <TylerJGillies> pvl: is it plugged into a small white slot or a big brown slot?
[10:21] <acid> raz00m, CLICK HERE HTTP://ANTIGOP-K4.NAROD.RU  AND YOU WIN 9,99 WEB MONKEY 8)
[10:21] <Flannel> !ops | acid
[10:21] <ubotu> acid: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:21] <acid> what this?
[10:22] <pvl> big brown
[10:22] <TylerJGillies> pvl:  its isa
[10:22] <pvl> tylergillies oh?
[10:22] <kahrytan> lol he asked what this
[10:22] <OverLord> do you know any software to do a movie with many picture ?
[10:22] <pvl> tylergillies well it simply wouldnt record prior to me messing with my settings
[10:22] <TylerJGillies> pvl: is it working with any other programs or is it not working at all?
[10:23] <elkbuntu> kahrytan, now you're giving him attention he doesnt deserve. move along, nothing to see ;)
[10:23] <kahrytan> elkbuntu, Just talking to flannel and you.
[10:23] <pvl> tylergillies not working at all
[10:23] <Jordan_U> pvl, What is the output of "asoundconf list" ?
[10:23] <medfly> im trying to do what the installation file for the other driver (not source noe) says. it wanted me to go to /usr/src/linux-2.6.something and i went to the -genetic one, then make menuconfig, edit something and make modules.
[10:24] <medfly> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/msr.c', needed by `arch/i386/kernel/msr.o'.  Stop.
[10:24] <pvl> tylergillies name of available sound cards: CS46xx
[10:25] <Jordan_U> pvl, try running "asoundconf set-default-card CS46xx"
[10:25] <raz00m> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/
[10:25] <medfly> is that a virus, raz00m?
[10:25] <medfly> (someone else just posted it)
[10:25] <pvl> jordan_U  no still working odd
[10:26] <elkbuntu> kahrytan, that's why i said to stop giving them attention
[10:26] <TylerJGillies> pvl: try modprobe snd-cs46xx
[10:27] <pvl> tylergillies still a problem with audio recording
[10:28] <pvl> tylergillies if i talk into my microphone it goes out onto the speaker but the computer wont record
[10:28] <TylerJGillies> pvl: what device are you using to record?
[10:28] <pvl> microphone
[10:28] <TylerJGillies> pvl: plugged into soundcard?
 microhpone
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[10:29] <jherrera> gosh, I can't use amaya
[10:29] <jherrera> it crashes :(
[10:30] <TylerJGillies> pvl: sorry i don't know enough about that card to try and figure out why its not recording
[10:30] <medfly> if this driver is asking me to go to /usr/src/linux-2.6.something, and i only have linux-headers-2.6.something, and linux-headers-2.6-something-genetic, where should i go to?
 oh well thank you for trying
[10:31] <medfly> should i get a kernel image or something?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> medfly: what are you trying to build?
[10:33] <medfly> fyrestrtr, a driver :/
[10:33] <Durmant> Im going to jab myself in the eye
[10:33] <medfly> fyrestrtr, thats what the driver readme file asks me to do, make modules on that dir. so im getting a kernel image.
[10:33] <GuHhH> does anyone knows a good site for spyware/adware/malware articles for a O.S. high school work?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> medfly: which driver? for what?
[10:34] <Durmant> Please anyone else have any ideas about this gsynaptics issue :-/
[10:34] <Shaye> Is there any "codecs package" u guys can recommended? I'm using VLC player
[10:34] <medfly> fyrestrtr, via S3 integrated grpahic card, for k8m800 motherboard
[10:34] <medfly> GuHhH, wrong place, i think :)
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> GuHhH: wikipedia.org, cert.org, etc.
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> Durmant: what issue?
[10:35] <TylerJGillies> pvl: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=61fd0f1e2ecd29ccbd727dbeb89bbdf6&showtopic=66544&view=findpost&p=322503
[10:35] <Hobbsee> Shaye: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:35] <medfly> fyrestrtr, ermm, its apparently a chipset, not a motherboard. okay.
[10:35] <Durmant> its giving me GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[10:35] <Durmant> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[10:35] <Durmant> I have added the option and restarted
 ill read into that
[10:36] <medfly> i guess i didnt want a kernel image. oh well.
[10:36] <WindsofTime> I want to create a button that will start my bot.. The command line is as follows:  ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf   >>> Now, I need to do this in the directory /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop >>> What command line do I give the Custom Application Launching button to make it (In Terminal) Go to that directory then run the ./eggdrop -nt .eggdrop.conf command?!
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> medfly: and the driver isn't available by 'normal' means? It should already be part of X11 iirc.
[10:37] <medfly> WindsofTime, try using something like xkeycaps
[10:37] <medfly> fyrestrtr, oh?
[10:37] <TylerJGillies> WindsofTime: #eggdrop
[10:37] <medfly> WindsofTime, or, you wanna make a script that does it? xkeycaps just helps you replace a key to do soemthing else..
[10:37] <WindsofTime> medfly
[10:38] <WindsofTime> that would be nice
[10:38] <WindsofTime> :)
[10:38] <medfly> fyrestrtr, so opengl just doesnt work? :(
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: /home/jamescork/eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf
[10:38] <WindsofTime> Can you assist me with that?
[10:38] <WindsofTime> oh
[10:38] <WindsofTime> ty fyrestrtr
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: actually, /home/jamescork/eggdrop -nt /path/to/eggdrop.conf ... make sure /home/jamescork/eggdrop is executable
[10:38] <medfly> WindsofTime, oh, i misread what you said. i thought you wanted to just hit a key and make it work.
[10:39] <WindsofTime> medfly I want to hit a BUtton
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> medfly: I'm not familiar with that chipset, but you can try glxinfo | grep direct to find out.
[10:39] <WindsofTime> on the desktop
[10:39] <Durmant> am I doing something wrong?
[10:39] <Durmant> Section "InputDevice"
[10:39] <Durmant>     Driver "synaptics"
[10:39] <Durmant>     Identifier "touchpad"
[10:39] <Durmant>     Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
[10:39] <Durmant>     Option "Protocol" "auto-dev"
[10:39] <Durmant>     Option "SHMConfig" "true"
[10:39] <Durmant> EndSection
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> Durmant: yes.
[10:39] <medfly> uhmm, fyrestrtr  - what i got is libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46 (newline) direct rendering: Yes
[10:40] <Durmant> lol
[10:40] <Durmant> and what would that be?
[10:40] <medfly> du, oh, youre doing something wrong, by pasting something so long in the channel! :-)
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> Durmant: you failed to read the channel topic.
[10:40] <medfly> haha
[10:40] <Durmant> lol
[10:40] <Catsceo> !pastebin | Durmant
[10:40] <ubotu> Durmant: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:40] <medfly> same sense of humor :)
[10:40] <WindsofTime> fyrestrtr
[10:40] <WindsofTime> That command line isn't working
[10:40] <WindsofTime> (Im back in GNOME btw)
[10:41] <Durmant> Im sorry
[10:41] <Durmant> wont happen again
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> medfly: it means that you are running accelerated drivers (using direct rending) but opengl might not work fully.
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: what do you mean "isn't working" -- how do you know its not working?
[10:41] <medfly> fyrestrtr, oh hell yeah. some stuff breaks and makes my computer freeze :-(
[10:41] <Durmant> but the damage is done
[10:41] <medfly> fyrestrtr, good to know! thanks
[10:41] <medfly> fyrestrtr, can i do anything about it?
[10:41] <WindsofTime> I will show you
[10:41] <WindsofTime> :)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> medfly: which means that either you upgrade, or you disable some opengl candy.
[10:41] <Durmant> besides that do you see something wrong with that section?
[10:42] <medfly> fyrestrtr, opengl candy?
[10:42] <TylerJGillies> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33666/
[10:42] <TylerJGillies> heh
[10:43] <WindsofTime> fyrestrtr: Take a look, http://windsoftime.servegame.org/pics.html
[10:43] <jherrera> can my system be frozen because of low memory ?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> Durmant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[10:44] <medfly> fyrestrtr, whats opengl candy?
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: when I say /path/to/ I mean literally, the path to a file, not type "/path/to/"
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> medfly: compiz, beryl, etc.
[10:44] <WindsofTime> lol
[10:44] <linux1> hiya ppl in ubuntu how can i get -j2 for make  global
[10:45] <WindsofTime> fyrestrtr I dont quite full understand it =\ I only got linux about 4 or 5 days ago
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: then you should have asked. How else are you going to learn? :P
[10:45] <WindsofTime> indeed
[10:45] <WindsofTime> the path to it IS   /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop
[10:45] <jherrera> or does ubuntu should tell me there is very low memory or something? I don't really know if that's the case, my system keeps freezing every now and then
[10:46] <WindsofTime> eggdrop.conf is inside  /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop
[10:46] <medfly> fyrestrtr, should i just try to disable one thing at a time and see if it stops giving me errors?
[10:46] <WindsofTime> and the "-nt" is just to tell the bot how to connect to the IRC server
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: and where is the file that you want to run?
[10:46] <WindsofTime>  /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop
[10:46] <WindsofTime> in that directory
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: yes, and this mystery file -- I'm sure it has a name?
[10:47] <WindsofTime> lol
[10:47] <WindsofTime> eggdrop.conf
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> medfly: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log <-- try that for starters
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: that's the configuration file, what is the path to the eggdrop program itself.
[10:47] <WindsofTime> That config file is what I need to run in Terminal
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> and what tha [bleep]  is eggdrop? Chinese noodle soup recipie maker?
[10:48] <medfly> fyrestrtr, i got (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom. i dont think thats related :)
[10:48] <WindsofTime> no
[10:48] <WindsofTime> Its an IRC bot
[10:48] <jscinoz> Is it possible to share Ubuntu's home partition with the home folder of... bleh Vista
[10:48] <WindsofTime> If we can get it to run it will join my channels #GMM and ##RP
[10:48] <wers> how do I make my Ubuntu feisty use the DNS of OpenDNS permanently?
[10:48] <WindsofTime> the command ./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf is what is used in Terminal (in the directory  /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop) in order to start it up
[10:48] <Shaye> WindsofTime, what is your question again about EGGDROP
[10:48] <WindsofTime> I am asking how to make a button on the panels in order to use it
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> wers: system > administration > networking
[10:49] <aboyousif> anyone know a good Personal information manager application that don't require kdelibs ?
[10:49] <wers> fyrestrtr, the problem is that, Ubuntu renews my DNS
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: what files do you have in /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop?
[10:49] <wers> I will have to regularly change my DNS
[10:49] <ce_sweety> hyyy
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> wers: ah, you are getting dns from dhcp then.
[10:49] <WindsofTime> To have a quick button to press rather than have to run to terminal and type "cd eggdrop" then "./eggdrop -nt eggdrop.conf"
[10:49] <WindsofTime> fyrestrtr
[10:49] <WindsofTime> everything the bot needs
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: *sigh* then your command is /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop/eggdrop -nt /home/jamescorkran/eggdrop/eggdrop.conf
[10:50] <jscinoz> Anyone had any luck getting feisty going on a shiny new XPS m1330
[10:50] <WindsofTime> Click here if you need a visiual agian  http://windsoftime.servegame.org/pics.html
[10:50] <wers> I do not know if I am getting my dns from dhcp because I am not familiar with this but what i know is that my connection to my router is set to dhcp
[10:50] <Durmant> Thanks for that link....but it still doesnt work :-/
[10:51] <WindsofTime> fyre, I can safely assume you never used EggDrop bots before?
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> wers: hit alt+f2, type gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and hit enter
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> WindsofTime: the only thing eggdrop I have used, is spoon and a bowl of soup.
[10:52] <WindsofTime> lol
[10:52] <WindsofTime> You should look it up on Google sometime
[10:52] <PHu1> fyrestrtr: : lol
[10:52] <WindsofTime> its a very customizable bot
[10:52] <WindsofTime> :)
[10:52] <WindsofTime> and I will let you know if your command line succeeds
[10:52] <wers> fyrestrtr, I'm on the dhclient file already
[10:52] <wers> actually, I already edited my prepend line
[10:52] <wers> here it is
[10:53] <WindsofTime> sorry, no it didn't work.. ah well
[10:53] <wers> #prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220;
[10:53] <PHu1> WindsofTime: how do you create the confige file? btw?
[10:53] <wers> my prepend line looks like that
[10:53] <WindsofTime> The config file comes with the .tar
[10:53] <medfly> fyrestrtr, hmm, i googled a bit and it turns out theres alot of problems with this
[10:53] <WindsofTime> you just have to look it over and configure it
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> wers: when that file opens up you should see a line (commented out, means there is a # in front of it) goes like this > prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; -- uncomment it (remove the first #) and replace 127.0.0.1; with your dns server, for example 192.168.1.1;192.168.1.23; etc.
[10:53] <WindsofTime> PHu1, why do you ask?
[10:54] <PHu1> WindsofTime: ok, I just d/l the deb through synap and ran in terminal, error no confige
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> wers: this will make it so whatever information you get from dhcp, these servers are always on top of the resolve order. You can also disable the option to get dns information from dhcp, but that might cause you problems down the road.
[10:54] <WindsofTime> Lulz, you dont get it from synap
[10:54] <PHu1> WindsofTime: will have to look at it deeper
[10:54] <WindsofTime> You get it from online and compile it
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> wers: remove the #
[10:54] <WindsofTime> Would you like the site?
[10:54] <medfly> fyrestrtr, (like on http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DStatus ). should i assume i have no hope?
[10:54] <PHu1> WindsofTime: okie dokie
[10:54] <wers> okay.. so all I have to do is to remove #?
[10:54] <fyrestrtr> wers: and then save the file.
[10:54] <Shaye> setxkbmap -option grp:shift_toggle us,il, now i can change between languages using shift+shift, how do i edit this line to make it alt+shift?
[10:55] <WindsofTime> PHu1, http://www.eggheads.org/redirect.php?url=ftp://ftp.eggheads.org/pub/eggdrop/source/1.6/eggdrop1.6.18.tar.gz
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> Shaye: from the keyboard switcher applet.
[10:55] <medfly> Shaye, alt_shift_toggle instead of shift_toggle
[10:56] <wers> I have already removed the #. By the way, what does # do in configuraiton files?
[10:56] <Shaye> medfly, ty :)
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> wers: it turns a line into a comment, meaning the program will ignore it.
[10:56] <medfly> fyrestrtr, what do you think? should i just assume i have no hope? ;p
[10:57] <wers> Oohh.. Thanks fyrestrtr! I presume, my dns would be permanently opendns' this way :)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> medfly: "Mainly because there is no maintainer of the driver." <-- that is the nail in the coffin for you, my friend.
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> wers: yes.
[10:57] <Infinito_> Nitro tha CiMien
[10:58] <EXP2> anyone know good spam filter that works with thunderbird?
[10:58] <jscinoz> Hey guys, heres my problem: I have a new XPS m1330 laptop, i wish to install ubuntu alongside vista (only keeping winblows for 4 games) normally this would be easy, but all 4 primary partitions are in use (Dell Utils, Vista, Dell recovery, dell media direct) i dont wish to lose any of these, but i know i need to move one into an extended partition, how can i create an extended partition and move one of these into it without destroying the
[10:59] <medfly> haha.. next time ill google for a card and see if there are any problems installing it on linux.
[10:59] <fyrestrtr> jscinoz: you cannot.
[10:59] <jscinoz> so my best bet would be to image one of these partitions, delete it, create the extended and restore the image to a new logical partitoin?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> jscinoz: disks have a 4 partition limit. You need a partition to create the logical drive.
[11:00] <b4l74z4r> is linux more prone to audio skipping under heavy load than windows?
[11:00] <SwiftNomAd> Hello.
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> b4l74z4r: depends on your hardware.
[11:00] <SwiftNomAd> I think I found a bug in GAIM
[11:00] <medfly> SwiftNomAd, try #gaim ;)
[11:01] <SwiftNomAd> ok
[11:01] <b4l74z4r> i'm assuming equal hardware under linux and windows
[11:01] <medfly> SwiftNomAd, theres a new version aswell called pidgin
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> b4l74z4r: it depends on the support for your sound card.
[11:02] <b4l74z4r> i have a soundblaster live i think
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> b4l74z4r: for soundblaster-sourced cards, no issues; as with most modern cards.
[11:02] <b4l74z4r> ok
[11:02] <b4l74z4r> thanks
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> b4l74z4r: best source for that kind of info is alsa
[11:02] <jscinoz> Fyrestrt, i know this, thats why i want to create an extended to house my ubuntu partitions (boot,root,home,swap) and one of the primary's that will have to be moved into a logical, im wondering if there is a way to do this without destroying the data on the partition i move
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> jscinoz: no, there isn't.
[11:03] <matty_v> Hi: I need to configure my wireless card to get on my WPA network - however ubuntu currently does not detect my wireless card (internal).
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> jscinoz: because you can't even do anything unless you delete one of the partitions.
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> matty_v: read the wiki yet?
[11:04] <^WingNut^> b4l74z4r: :  I'm using a SB PCI512 with is basically a SB Live! with a boring name.  Works fine.
[11:04] <matty_v> fyrestrtr: yeah - ran through a few guides - I just upgraded from  6.10 which the wireless card was working fine - tried to get WPA working in 7.04 and now it wont detect my card anymore
[11:05] <joris> hello
[11:05] <joris> little problem
[11:05] <joris> i want to save my rc.local file
[11:06] <jscinoz> Fyrestrt, ok thanks, one other question, which of these partitions would be most suited for movement into a logical partition, Vista, recovery, mediadirect or dellutils?
[11:06] <joris> and i have a can't open file
[11:06] <joris> notification
[11:06] <joris> how can i do ?
[11:06] <joris> thx
[11:06] <seiflotfy> hi guys
[11:07] <b4l74z4r> http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=2374 <-- it was this article that had me concerned about audio skipping
[11:07] <jonah> hi guys is there a way to run ubuntu on mac osx virtually so i can use apps i don't have on osx without dual booting? also is there any free apple software for this sort of thing?
[11:07] <faileas> jonah: freebie.. qemu
[11:07] <jonah> basically i just need a little app called treeline, which fink can't seem to port over and no one can get to work on mac os x - so might have to install ubuntu to use it
[11:07] <jscinoz> Jonah i'd recommend Qemu, be advised ubuntu will run VERY slowly
[11:07] <faileas> but it won't support ganes
[11:08] <seiflotfy> I have 2 soundcard one onboard and another usb. i set the onboard one as default for my session however i want it to be the defautl one for the whole pc how do i do it?
[11:08] <faileas> the QEMU port for OS X is called Q ...
[11:09] <faileas> jonah: http://www.kju-app.org/kju/
[11:09] <seiflotfy> please some advice
[11:10] <seiflotfy> I have 2 soundcard one onboard and another usb. i set the onboard one as default for my session however i want it to be the defautl one for the whole pc how do i do it?
[11:11] <jonah> thanks guys, i'll try it out
[11:11] <acidspoon> &join \ubuntu/de
[11:12] <nojoints> Anybody knows how to remove mac-panel look-a-like?
[11:13] <bullgard4> English help wanted: A Gnome terminal. Main menu item 'Help'. Presssing it will open a context menu. What is the name of the last item init? Is it 'Info'?
[11:13] <seiflotfy> I have 2 soundcard one onboard and another usb. i set the onboard one as default for my session however i want it to be the defautl one for the whole pc how do i do it?
[11:13] <bullgard4> English help wanted: A Gnome terminal. Main menu item 'Help'. Presssing it will open a context menu. What is the name of the last item in it? Is it 'Info'?
[11:14] <Hobbsee> !repeat | bullgard4
[11:14] <ubotu> bullgard4: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:14] <bullgard4> Hobbsee: You better read what I wrote before you come to wrong conclusions.
[11:15] <PHu1> WindsofTime: (or anyone else for that matter) were is Tcl installed to by default?
[11:15] <WindsofTime> PHu1 I do not know really
[11:15] <seiflotfy> I have 2 soundcard one onboard and another usb. i set the onboard one as default for my session however i want it to be the defautl one for the whole pc how do i do it?
[11:15] <Hobbsee> bullgard4: ahh.  there is a space missing in the first line.
[11:16] <simski> hi all, i've got a problem setting up evolution with googlemail (won't connect to the pop-server) are there any known issues?
[11:18] <gcostello> simsi: did you set the port to 587 ?
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> simski: check if the secure port isn't blocked. I assume you already activated the service?
[11:18] <simski> i'll check
[11:19] <acidspoon> hi
[11:19] <Meyvn> morning all
[11:19] <acidspoon> what does the error failed to allocate mem resource mean
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> exactly what it states
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> it failed to allocate memory
[11:20] <phu1> (ie not good)
[11:20] <acidspoon> and that means in other words
[11:22] <linux1> hiya ppl in ubuntu how can i set -j2 (number of job for make )  global so i dont have to add it to cflags
[11:24] <Stormx2> Yo. how would I check my CPU temp?
[11:24] <matty_v> My wireless card cannot see or access WPA networks - I have tried the WPA guide with no luck, does anyone have any tips?
[11:24] <nomin> I want to increase the size of a /home partition and gparted only has the option to shrink it?  Why is this?  There is unallocated space after the /home partition and I would like to extend into it.
[11:24] <nomin> I'm using the edgy live cd.
[11:24] <nomin> my /home is formatted in ext3
[11:24] <Durmant_>  /msg nickserv link Durmant 592884735
[11:24] <Durmant_> oops
[11:24] <Durmant_> lol
[11:24] <Durmant_> damn space
[11:24] <Meyvn> lol
[11:24] <Durmant_> everyone delete that from your memories lol
[11:24] <Meyvn> heh
[11:24] <adydas> hah
[11:24] <Meyvn> you don't happen to use that for all your passwords do you Durmant_? ;)
[11:24] <Durmant_> ummmm no of coarse not :-p
[11:24] <adydas> put your finger on it
[11:25] <Durmant_> lol
[11:25] <Meyvn> Stormx2: you can check it in your bios or install some software that displays it
[11:25] <Stormx2> Meyvn: which software?
[11:25] <Meyvn> for Linux?
[11:26] <simski> thx for the help, everyone. i had to use another port and enable ssl, now it works :)
[11:26] <Meyvn> just google it and you're bound to find something
[11:26] <Pingviller> :O
[11:26] <nomin> I want to increase the size of a /home partition and gparted only has the option to shrink it?  Why is this?  There is unallocated space after the /home partition and I would like to extend into it.
[11:26] <Meyvn> i gtg
[11:26] <Meyvn> work calls
[11:26] <adydas> nomin: have you installed it or running off the live cd?
[11:26] <nomin> adydas: I'm using the edgy live cd
[11:27] <adydas> so your doing the install right now and you want to increase the size of home?
[11:27] <Durmant_> I want my touchpad to work :-/
[11:28] <nomin> adydas: no.  I just want to increase the size of my ext3 /home partition into newly allocated free space that exists just after my /home partition.
[11:29] <adydas> Id love to help but im stuck understanding where your at
[11:29] <Frogzoo> nomin: just make sure /home is unmounted
[11:29] <nomin> everything would be just fine if I had the option in gparted to increase the size of the partition.  It's only giving me the option to shrink it.
[11:30] <abbe> hi channel
[11:30] <SwiftNomAd> Hi.
[11:30] <Frogzoo> nomin: how odd
[11:30] <esteem> How do I get time stamps on my terminal? Thanks.
[11:30] <abbe> Can anyone confirm whether ftp.kaist.ac.kr Ubuntu Mirror is working or not ?
[11:30] <nomin> Frogzoo: it's not mounted.  I'm in a live session.
[11:31] <Frogzoo> nomin: did you remove the partition above /home?
[11:31] <abbe> esteem, time stamps for what ? files, hmm...
[11:31] <nomin> Frogzoo: it's unallocated
[11:31] <esteem> abbe:  No. my commands I input into terminal
[11:32] <abbe> esteem, sorry no idea about that.
[11:32] <Frogzoo> nomin: resize option should give you a slider you can push to the right
[11:33] <nomin> Frogzoo: it only moves to the left.
[11:33] <b4l74z4r> is there a way to stop opera from showing a miniature version of the web page when you hover the mouse over a tab?
[11:33] <Frogzoo> nomin: pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd#'
[11:34] <GUARDiAN-> hi
[11:34] <abbe> GUARDiAN-: hi
[11:34] <Durmant_> Can anyone take a look at my xorg and tell me what im doing wrong for my touchpad and why I cant switch to 1600x1200 res
[11:34] <Durmant_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33671/
[11:35] <Pingviller> noob question: how do I set priviledges so I can use QTPartEd?
[11:35] <Frogzoo> Pingviller: gksudo gparted
[11:36] <wers> can I convert a gentoo ebuild to a deb?
[11:36] <nomin> Frogzoo: http://rafb.net/p/ABAvrO30.html
[11:36] <Durmant> Yay my name timed out
[11:36] <GUARDiAN-> i have a problem with my sandisk pcmcia-sd-cardreader: when booting from feisty-livecd, inserted media gets mounted. when booting the installed feisty (2.6.20-15 and -16 doesn't matter) it doesn't get mounted. syslog-output here: http://dark-code.bulix.org/y6yc8w-52480
[11:36] <abbe> Pingviller: kdesu qtparted or gksudo qtparted
[11:36] <Pingviller> Frogzoo: sometimes it's just too easy to figure out lol, thanks mate :)
[11:38] <Pingviller> but I managed to mistype my root-pw :D lol
[11:38] <bullgard4> What is an 'infobox' in Linux? I found differing uses of this term but no definition.
[11:38] <Frogzoo> nomin: I see no free space there - which partition is /home?
[11:39] <KK> dfa
[11:39] <nomin> Frogzoo: /home is /deb/hdb7
[11:40] <Frogzoo> nomin: see how the extended partition finishes at 21342?
[11:40] <noiesmo> Hello all I had a major hardware failure on a server and had to recover mysql database with livecd which is fine however in my has to set it back up again I ended up setting a password for debian-sys-maint @ localhost I have removed it via phpmyadmin however when I restart mysql it complains about using password yes for user debian-sys-maint
[11:40] <nomin> Frogzoo: yes
[11:41] <Frogzoo> nomin: which is where /home finishes?
[11:41] <nomin> Frogzoo: yes.
[11:41] <nomin> Frogzoo: oh, ok.  Forgot about the extended partion.
[11:41] <nomin> Frogzoo: ty.
[11:42] <spiekey> hi
[11:42] <spiekey> how can i switch ubuntu from runlevel 5 to 3?
[11:42] <spiekey> init 3 wont do anything.
[11:43] <adydas> dang ive done this but i forget
[11:43] <Frogzoo> spiekey: all runlevels are the same, the default on debian/ubuntu is 2
[11:43] <adydas> you setting up a "server"
[11:43] <spiekey> how can i switch down to "save mode" without rebooting?
[11:43] <spiekey> i need to shut down network and all services
[11:44] <adydas> all servvices, like halt?
[11:44] <slytherin> What is the best way to fix resolution on intel 845 chipset?
[11:44] <Frogzoo> spiekey: only by running the /etc/init.d scripts by hand
[11:45] <spiekey> argh..its a shame ubuntu changed that
[11:46] <michup> hi can someone help me use cdrecord properly? i which to write few ordynary data files how should i compose command then?
[11:47] <slytherin> michup: Don't you access to gui?
[11:47] <michup> no i dont have gui right now
[11:48] <michup> i try once but i burn wrong way a cd and its not working
[11:48] <Pingviller> ugh, I'm so tempted to format my ntfs-drive, and yet so scared my ubuntu might stop working :P
[11:48] <parth_> can anyone help with aptoncd
[11:49] <michup> in other situation i would try to do it alone but i might be out of cds then
[11:49] <parth_> i want to create a backup of all the packages that i have installed on my system
[11:49] <parth_> i tried apt on cd
[11:50] <parth_> works fine only for the packages in the cache
[11:51] <michup> someone know how to write a cd with cdrecord?
[11:51] <parth_> what abt the packages that are not there in the cache
[11:51] <medfly> michup, rtfm?
[11:52] <slytherin> medfly: I am sure he has already tried and facing some problem.
[11:52] <medfly> oh, i didnt see his text before that
[11:53] <medfly> michup, i just went for the risk-free way and got one of those fancy GUIs for it, so i wont have the option of getting it wrong (i had no extra CDs)
[11:53] <michup> im not so good in technical stuff i tried only cdrecord dev=/dev/hdb -data *
[11:54] <ipis> how do i increase the volme
[11:54] <ipis> volume*
[11:54] <michup> this is old computer at my work without gui it is ment to not have gui
[11:55] <Anchakor> hi! I got problems with GMD so I swiched it for XDM, but fonts kind of changed in whole system and kaffeine doesnt work. Anyone knows why is that?
[11:56] <[3] jscinoz> Hey guys, im about to make an make an extended partition for Ubuntu, however i need to delete dell's mediadirect partition first, can anyone direct me to a freeware/GPL backup program for windows that will let me image this partition to later restore into a logical partition
[11:57] <Frogzoo> jscinoz: anacronis or symantec ghost
[11:57] <benitez> kien ers
[11:57] <[3] jscinoz> Ghost aint free >_< neither is acronis.
[11:58] <[3] jscinoz> hmm
[11:58] <benitez> iij
[11:58] <[3] jscinoz> nevermind...
[11:58] <Shaye> do you guys recommend using an anti virus software or it's not needed
[11:59] <dgjones> !virus | Shaye
[11:59] <ubotu> Shaye: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:59] <slytherin> What is the best way to fix resolution on intel 845 chipset?
[11:59] <Frogzoo> slytherin: tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  ?
[11:59] <seiflotfy> I have 2 soundcard one onboard and another usb. i set the onboard one as default for my session however i want it to be the defautl one for the whole pc how do i do it?
[11:59] <benitez> espapnol
[11:59] <Frogzoo> !es
[11:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:59] <dgjones> !es | benitez
[11:59] <ubotu> benitez: please see above
[12:00] <benitez> wenas
[12:00] <benitez> k et pasa
[12:00] <benitez> soc catalana
[12:00] <wersdaluv> how do I remove a gtk theme?
[12:00] <benitez> me entes
[12:00] <slytherin> Frogzoo: yup. It doesn't work. Also I see some mysterious entries in Preferences->Screen Resolution which I didn't set.
[12:00] <benitez> uhbipbip
[12:01] <Frogzoo> !845
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 845 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Nate75Sanders> Anybody know of a way that I can look at the size of each installed package on an ubuntu/debian system?
[12:01] <Nate75Sanders> dpkg -l is a good listing, but doesn't include size info
[12:01] <Heady> !nod
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Nate75Sanders> and synaptic doesn't show sizes from what i can tell
[12:01] <Heady> hoops, wrong channel :-D
[12:02] <aroamn> wenas
[12:02] <eniac> I'm running ubuntu feisty on my laptop and I think I'm not using my CPU at fullest
[12:02] <eniac> a gnome-applet idicates this
[12:03] <faemir> can someone tell me the name of the package needed to read 7zip archives?
[12:03] <aroamn> no se parLAR EN INGLIS
[12:03] <SlimeyPe1e> Nate75Sanders: right-click on the package in synaptic
[12:03] <eniac> but the applet doesn't enable me to chance this
[12:03] <SlimeyPe1e> n	then
[12:03] <SlimeyPe1e> select properties
[12:03] <eniac> faemir: 7zip applications-> add/remove | install it
[12:03] <Nate75Sanders> Slimey: that's a good start, but is there anything that can show me all sizes at once in a big list? I want to look over what's taking up a lot of space and delete some
[12:03] <SlimeyPe1e> eniac: if you mean the CPU frequency looks too low then it may be because you have speedstep/cool-n-quiet
[12:03] <faemir> eniac,thanks
[12:04] <SlimeyPe1e> Nate75Sanders: not that I know of, sorry
[12:04] <parth_> how do i backup all the packages that i have installed on my system
[12:04] <Nate75Sanders> Slimey: thanks
[12:04] <brigante> ragazzi qualche italiano???
[12:04] <SlimeyPe1e> !italian
[12:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:04] <dgjones> !it
[12:04] <Deja-Vu> ufff ne kadar cok ubuntu kullanicisi varmis
[12:04] <brigante> very thnx!!!
[12:04] <aroamn> eing
[12:05] <slytherin> Nate75Sanders: Synaptic can show sizes.
[12:05] <ipis> what clients are you using?
[12:05] <eniac> SlimeyPe1e: yes that's it. But how do I change it ?
[12:05] <Deja-Vu> ubuntu welcome
[12:05] <ipis> i mean for mirc
[12:05] <eichi> hello, is there a way to install xubuntu without xserver?
[12:05] <aroamn> k et fotin
[12:05] <SlimeyPe1e> eniac: you don't. It will change automatically.
[12:05] <ipis> i mean irc
[12:05] <eichi> only keyboard
[12:05] <Nate75Sanders> slytherin: yes, Slimey just told me, thanks though
[12:05] <slytherin> Nate75Sanders: Settings->preferences->columns
[12:05] <slytherin> Nate75Sanders: The way you want
[12:05] <dgjones> aroamn, what is your home language?
[12:05] <Nate75Sanders> slytherin: ah....that's better...thanks
[12:05] <aroamn> espanish
[12:06] <SlimeyPe1e> eniac: modern laptop processors change their clock frequency automatically depending on how much stress you are putting on them (lots of stress = clock speed gets higher)
[12:06] <eniac> SlimeyPe1e: I don't want that. Can't I change it
[12:06] <dgjones> !es | aroamn
[12:06] <ubotu> aroamn: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:06] <Deja-Vu> hello
[12:06] <Deja-Vu> :D
[12:06] <Deja-Vu> merhaba
[12:06] <aroamn> hello
[12:06] <SlimeyPe1e> eniac: I don't know how to change it. Why don't you want it? It will not affect your performance and it will make your battery last longer.
[12:06] <Frogzoo> eniac: you can 'sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector' then click on the cpu applet & change freq/power scheme
[12:07] <Pingviller> when I boot up, I just realised I got two sets of ubuntu to start up from.. one ends in .16 and the other .15 (feisty fawn)
[12:07] <eniac> Frogzoo: thanks
[12:07] <aroamn> adeu
[12:07] <aroamn> me piro
[12:07] <slytherin> Frogzoo: Any other solution for resolution?
[12:07] <Frogzoo> slytherin: google?
[12:08] <Pingviller> did I manage to install two seperate ubuntu ? :P
[12:08] <nalpha> Pingviller: I thing not? It Just the version of the kernel maybe?
[12:09] <pfopf> if i want to start firefox in fullscreen, what should i write into user.js ?
[12:09] <Pingviller> nalpha: well, ya, but should there really be two different kernels?
[12:09] <SwiftNomAd> Sorry I was timed out.
[12:13] <nalpha> Pingviller: wew, that's that I not understand until now, maybe preparation for error if the new kernel hang??? :_
[12:14] <parth_> can i just retrieve the packages that i have installed on the system using apt??
[12:14] <Pingviller> nalpha: I dunno, I sure didn't do it on purpose ;)
[12:14] <Pingviller> thinking about just format the entire C-drive and start from scratch
[12:15] <Frogzoo> parth_: what are you trying to do?
[12:15] <BadRobot> hi ,could any tell if there is a way to install ubuntu via text mode from the original liveCD?
[12:15] <Pingviller> since I've just been on ubuntu since sunday evening
[12:15] <nalpha> Pingviller: If you want, try to search ubuntu.com help maybe? and if you already know,  I want to know too from you :D.
[12:16] <Frogzoo> Pingviller: just uninstall the older kernel, or leave it be - makes no difference
[12:16] <nalpha> BadRobot: download the alternate CD.
[12:16] <BadRobot> ok
[12:16] <BadRobot> thx
[12:16] <Pingviller> nalpha: so far I wouldn't dare to give advice on this stuff anyhow ;)
[12:17] <parth_> im trying to backup my system
[12:17] <parth_> so that in case in future if my system crashes
[12:17] <parth_> i can install it directly via the backup
[12:17] <parth_> no need to download from the net
[12:18] <SlimeyPe1e> ghost it?
[12:18] <jfdbmi> Anyone knows what are the keyboard shortcuts for aptitude
[12:18] <Frogzoo> parth_: run 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.selections' & save it somewhere
[12:18] <Pingviller> hmm yeah, gonna reformat everything and start from nothing with a clean nice ubuntu-installation... be back in an hour or two ;) wish me luck
[12:18] <slytherin> parth_: Why not just take backup of /var/cache/apt/archives and install them later with dpkg -i *.deb?
[12:18] <nalpha> Pingviller: wishing it.
[12:19] <Pingviller> thanks nalpha  ;)
[12:20] <parth_> frogzoo
[12:20] <parth_> ok i have done that
[12:20] <parth_> wat next
[12:20] <Anchakor> anyone experienced? (syslog): gdm[7260] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[12:20] <Frogzoo> parth_: if you need to rebuild a machine, you can reinstall those packages - if you then have /etc/ & /home/ backed up, you're pretty much good
[12:21] <nalpha> Anchakor: what happen?
[12:21] <Frogzoo> parth_: /var also if you run a db/webserver
[12:21] <Anchakor> nalpha: X server is restarted...
[12:22] <jfdbmi> anyone know what the keyboard shortcut for aptitude is?
[12:22] <MarkX> anyone know how to get a broadcom bcm4318 wireless card working in feisty without compiling ndiswrapper and using wpa
[12:23] <ItchyHobo> hi
[12:23] <Anchakor> nalpha: happened to me 2x a day so I swiched to XDM which seems ok but it has other problems like changed fonts and some apps not working...
[12:24] <ItchyHobo> installed ubuntu yesterday and updated it
[12:24] <nalpha> Anchakor: hm... not know.. :) (out of range)
[12:24] <ItchyHobo> ran into a little problem with swich user
[12:24] <ItchyHobo> can anybody help?
[12:24] <nalpha> ItchyHobo: what kind of switch user?
[12:25] <jstarcher> if I have an error while running make, do I have to run make clean then make again or can I just run make?
[12:25] <ItchyHobo> hi
[12:25] <ItchyHobo> i used switch user option in the upper right corner of my screen
[12:25] <ItchyHobo> and when i relogin the screen goes black
[12:25] <Frogzoo> jstarcher: make clean's safest
[12:26] <ItchyHobo> since it is a new install i only have a single account on it
[12:26] <jstarcher> Frogzoo, and for Ubuntu aren't you supposed to use a different command rather then sudo make install?
[12:26] <nalpha> ItchyHobo: what version of ubuntu?
[12:26] <ItchyHobo> amd 64 the latest updated it right now prob 7.04
[12:28] <Frogzoo> jstarcher: if you can make a .deb & install that, that's better
[12:28] <jstarcher> Frogzoo, yeah that's right. sudo checkinstall
[12:29] <nalpha> ItchyHobo: wew... can't help u.. sorry...
[12:30] <ItchyHobo> well thanks anyway man
[12:30] <Joelio> Hey guys, I seem to be having a lot of emask exception errors in my dmesg output
[12:30] <bX009> hi ! i have downloaded nvidia-glx for my geforce 6500 driver.. how to configure it ?
[12:31] <ItchyHobo> well this was my first linux try (first time i used it) everything is working fine. One thing i noticed compared to xp this OS is lightning fast.
[12:31] <nalpha> ItchyHobo: Sounds good for you
[12:32] <ItchyHobo> hmm... methinks linux is gonna suit me just fine
[12:32] <ItchyHobo> i jst wanna know one thing more x86 vs x86-64
[12:33] <Frogzoo> ItchyHobo: stick with x86 if you need flash
[12:33] <ItchyHobo> is there much software available for the x64 or should i use the 32bit version
[12:33] <Smegzor> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu onto a 320Gig drive (new).  The install works but when I boot I get error 21 from Grub which I believe means it can't find the harddrive it set up in grub during install.
[12:33] <ItchyHobo> thanks
[12:33] <ItchyHobo> coz i noticed that there are not a lot of software for 64-bit
[12:33] <Frogzoo> Smegzor: multiple hdds?
[12:33] <Smegzor> just one
[12:34] <Smegzor> I did a default install using the entire drive
[12:34] <SlimeyPe1e> ItchyHobo: there's quite a lot of software for 64-bit but drivers and flash plugin can bea bit of a pain
[12:34] <SlimeyPe1e> unless you really need 64-bit, I'd stick with 32 for now
[12:34] <ItchyHobo> yeah guess you are right. but since i got a 64bit pc i thought i should give it a whirl :)
[12:35] <nalpha> Smegzor: wew compatibility issue again, maybe try to make manual install and create spesific partition? maybe? (not guaranteed just give an idea)
[12:35] <ItchyHobo> anyway thanks ppl gotta finish my ubuntu manual
[12:35] <ItchyHobo> bye
[12:35] <tech_> hay my Ubuntu has stopped automounting my drives and usb drives???
[12:35] <tech_> how do i fix this?
[12:36] <Smegzor> I think my pc might be a but buggered.  If I plug the drive into the primary ide, I get non system disk boot errors.  it will only boot on the secondary which is hdd1 according to grub, but setting the boot.lst to hd(1,0) or hd(1,1) hasn't fixed the error 21 problem.
[12:36] <Frogzoo> Smegzor: you at the grub prompt atm?
[12:36] <bX009> ItchyHobo: flash should work fine on X86_64
[12:36] <tech_> hay y has my Ubuntu stopped automounting???
[12:36] <Smegzor> I was wondering about that.  Is it better to make a small first partition for boot?
[12:36] <bX009> i have configured it
[12:36] <Smegzor> currently boot is on the largest partition.
[12:37] <bX009> here is the link if you wanna try : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[12:37] <tech_> Someone please help???
[12:37] <nalpha> Smegzor: did'mt know :)
[12:37] <Smegzor> its a fresh install so I can reinstall all day :)
[12:37] <tech_> hellloooo???
[12:38] <tech_> can someone help me with my mounting Problem?
[12:38] <nalpha> tech_: be patient
[12:38] <Smegzor> I'll try the boot partition idea.  My other file server is set up that way and it works fine (same pc type)
[12:38] <tech_> ok
[12:38] <bX009> tech_: what are you trying to mount
[12:39] <tech_> Every thing is not coming up like my C: and D: Drive and also USB drives arnt coming up?
[12:39] <nalpha> tech_: hm... so it's not plug n play again?
[12:39] <nalpha> tech_: Hm.. I have the same problem too, anyone can help me?
[12:39] <tech_> yeah it just started doing it thismorning
[12:40] <tech_> well this morning i had C: and D: still BUT after i just updated i lst all my drives but filesystem
[12:41] <bX009> can anyone help me with the command line for nvidia-glx to configure nvidia 6500
[12:41] <dgjones> anybody having problems with pidgin connecting to the msn service? i keep getting an "Unable to connect" message, although msn with the same account, same isp & same computer works perfectly
[12:41] <nalpha> tech_: what's is the output of df -h?
[12:42] <Smegzor> I'm reinstalling (3rd time).  It'll be a while before I know if its helped (slow hardware).
[12:42] <tech_> Filesystem            Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[12:42] <tech_> /dev/sda4             9.2G  5.2G  3.6G  59% /
[12:42] <tech_> varrun                248M   96K  248M   1% /var/run
[12:42] <tech_> varlock               248M     0  248M   0% /var/lock
[12:42] <tech_> udev                  248M   72K  248M   1% /dev
[12:42] <tech_> devshm                248M     0  248M   0% /dev/shm
[12:42] <tech_> lrm                   248M   34M  215M  14% /lib/modules/2.6.22-9-generic/volatile
[12:42] <dgjones> !paste ! tech_
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ! tech_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <dgjones> !paste | tech_
[12:42] <ubotu> tech_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:43] <tech_> sorry
[12:43] <jr> n
[12:43] <jo__> hi
[12:43] <jo__> can I ask a Q?
[12:44] <dgjones> !ask | jo__
[12:44] <ubotu> jo__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:44] <tech_> nalpha: what?
[12:44] <nalpha> tech_: wew your home is missing???
[12:44] <jo__> I have a problem with printing a presentation
[12:45] <jo__> I try to print 6 pages for one page
[12:45] <tech_> nalpha: OK what does that mean im on it now
[12:45] <jo__> How can I do it?
[12:45] <Smegzor> My other file server can't upgrade past 6.10 because its boot partition is full.  Whats a good generous size for the boot partition so I never have this problem again?
[12:45] <nalpha> tech_: Are you can mount your drive manually?
[12:46] <Frogzoo> Smegzor: you mean /boot? or / ?
[12:47] <Smegzor> I mean the one that will contain boot
[12:47] <nalpha> Smegzor: what size of your boot now?
[12:47] <Frogzoo> 100meg for /boot & you'll never have issues
[12:47] <Smegzor> Well I think I do..  The other pc can't upgrade beyond 6.10 because there is no room for the new image
[12:48] <nalpha> Smegzor: how do you upgrade?
[12:48] <Smegzor> using the automated upgrade built into ubuntu
[12:49] <ken> hi
[12:49] <bX009> hi... can anyone help me with my nvidia configuration process on ubuntu ..basicall i don't know how to ..search in internet is not bringing any useful link
[12:49] <pedahzur> Smegzor: how many kernel versions do you have installed? If you have a /boot partition, then it may be you have a lot of kernels installed and should uninstall the old ones.  If your / (root) partition is full, maybe /tmp or /root needs to be cleaned out.
[12:49] <Smegzor> Just 6.10
[12:49] <pedahzur> bX009: I use nVidia on a couple boxes, I might be able to help.
[12:49] <Smegzor> I already cleaned them out.  I still don't have enough room
[12:50] <nalpha> Smegzor: how much the rest of your harddrive?
[12:50] <tech_> nalpha: Yes i can
[12:50] <bX009> thnks-pedahzur: i have installed nvidia-glx ... i want to configure it now
[12:50] <ken> 
[12:50] <tech_> nalpha: in case you didnt get my last message Yes i can mount manually but it is very annoying
[12:50] <Smegzor> that pc has a 250gig drive which is full
[12:51] <jo__> I'll try to explane again. In IMPRES there is Handout option, How can I print it in this version?
[12:51] <pedahzur> bX009: What kind of configuration are you doing?  I've always installed that package, restarted X, and it "just worked."
[12:51] <nalpha> tech_: hmm... I can't help you to fix the problem, but you can add mount command in /etc/fstab so after you restart, it will back mount again.
[12:52] <Smegzor> My plan is to copy everything to the new file server so I can start over on the old one and set a larger partition for the kernel images.
[12:52] <tech_> ok is there a other IRC Chennal dealing with this error?
[12:52] <bX009> nope its not working... since i have restarted my laptop several times... i have faint memory of the command line used :nvidia-glx..i want to use beryl
[12:53] <tim167> i am trying to get a geforce 5400 FX card working, i had another card working with nvidia drivers, changed to this one because i need two sceens, but it doesnt work with the same drivers, do i have to switch something/remove/reinstall??? thanks
[12:53] <Smegzor> My full boot partition is only 44 mb in total.
[12:53] <Davy_Jones> !twinview
[12:53] <tim167> that's a geforce 5200FX sorry
[12:53] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:53] <Smegzor> I'll double it to 100 as suggested earlier.
[12:53] <nalpha> tech_: nop, I don't know
[12:53] <tech_> nalpha: Damn
[12:53] <pedahzur> bX009:  There are three you might try: nvidia-glx-config, nvidia-settings,  or nvidia-xconfig
[12:54] <Frogzoo> Smegzor: if your /boot is already 50meg, there's something odd there
[12:54] <tech_> nalpha: Because im new to ubuntu again i am not shore of all the mounting commands do you know were to get them?
[12:54] <jo__> OK' I found it.
[12:54] <jo__> thanks
[12:54] <bX009> pedahzur:   are their any parameters ...will i be getting any parameters
[12:55] <bX009> i mean will i be getting any help from the man command
[12:55] <pedahzur> I believe at least one of those is a GUI program.
[12:55] <bX009> wonderful... i will try that
[12:55] <tim167> well the FX5200 geforce does not work with the nvidia drivers to start with, i installed the nvidia from restricted manager, it worked, then i switched cards, now it doesnt work although it is also an nvidia videocard...
[12:56] <pedahzur> bX009: When you start X, do you see a big nVidia logo?
[12:56] <bX009> nope
[12:56] <pedahzur> bX009: Hmm..
[12:56] <nalpha> tech_: there is much article how to mount NTFS, FAT, EXT3 drive in google? what kind of file system do you have?
[12:56] <ingo__> is there a ubuntu-version for kids at the age around 12 years?
[12:56] <pedahzur> tim167: Are you sure? I have a FX5200 installed right now.  I had a 4Ti (or some such) and other than changing the PCI id in xorg.conf, it didn't take any config or driver changes when I upgraded.
[12:56] <Frogzoo> ingo__: edubuntu
[12:57] <tech_> nalpha: Well both vfat and ntfs drives
[12:57] <nalpha> ingo__: why? just run KDE isn't to make more interest?
[12:57] <pedahzur> ingo__: There is edubuntu.  Also look at the Gcompris package (Educational games).
[12:57] <Davy_Jones> tech_: mount /dev/<partition> /media/<mountpoint>
[12:57] <ingo__> is edubuntu=kde?
[12:57] <Smegzor> When I am manually creating partitions.  Should I make boot, swap and /  all primary partitions or should some be logical?  I don't really understand when I would need logical.
[12:58] <Davy_Jones> ingo__: no.. kubuntu = kde ubuntu
[12:58] <ingo__> ah ok - thanks all!
[12:58] <nalpha> tech_: for NFTS : mount /dev/hdx /media/<mount oint> -t ntfs -o umask=0002,nls=utf8
[12:58] <tech_> Davy_Jones: Thanx but is it sudo at the start?
[12:58] <tim167> pedahzur how do i know what to change the PCI id too if i want to try that ?, anyhow the 'nv' driver does work, so i guess that's not it...
[12:58] <Davy_Jones> tech_: yeah, forgot that
[12:58] <tech_> nalpha: Thanx for that
[12:58] <pedahzur> tim167: the nv driver is the open source driver.
[12:59] <Frogzoo> Smegzor: makes no difference really, just make first 3 partitions primary & use the rest of space for extended
[12:59] <pedahzur> tim167: In your "Device" section there is this line: busid "PCI:1:0:0"
[12:59] <nalpha> tech_: no need sudo if you want to put it onto /etc/fstab
[12:59] <dgjones> anybody having problems with pidgin connecting to the msn service? i keep getting an "Unable to connect" message, although msn with the same account, same isp & same computer works perfectly
[12:59] <Davy_Jones> tech_: you might have to add the "-o uid=1000" option after the mount command if the vfat partition is not writable
[12:59] <pedahzur> tim167: if you run lspci at a prompt, you'll see a line like this: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]  (rev a2)
[01:00] <pedahzur> tim167: that 0000:01:00.0 converts to PCI:1:0:0 in your xorg.conf
[01:00] <tech_> nalpha: ok im trying to do it now
[01:00] <tim167> pedahzur, ok i'll check
[01:00] <Shaye> what was the command to "move" between two languages on the OS by clicking alt+shift, something with alt_toogle_shift?
[01:00] <nalpha> tech_: be carefully of adding "space" and "tab" follow the example code in /etc/fstab
[01:01] <Davy_Jones> Shaye: the default is both alt keys
[01:01] <pedahzur> tim167:  If you have two cards active in your system (like a built-in and an add in) you may have two cards listed. Make sure you're trying to use the correct one.
[01:01] <ziroday> Shaye: look at scim
[01:01] <tech_> yep will do
[01:01] <Smegzor> I keep getting the error "can't have the end before the start"  I am trying to create my root partition and I'm just trying to use the remaining free space.  Whats going on?
[01:01] <tim167> pedahzur, only one card is physically connected now...
[01:01] <pedahzur> K
[01:01] <Shaye> Davy_Jones, yeah, so i change this to: setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle us,il, but after i restart it will go back to default "alt+alt", any idea why?
[01:02] <tech_> i get ermission denied trying to open the fstab
[01:02] <Smegzor> I have created a 100mb primary for boot, a 1mb primary for swap.  and its not letting me make the main partition.
[01:02] <tim167> pedahzur, is that "Option PCI:1:0:0"  i should enter ?
[01:03] <Davy_Jones> Shaye: no idea.. but i thought both alt keys were 'cooler'
[01:03] <tech_> nalpha: i get permission denied trying to open it
[01:03] <Shaye> I'm just used to windows Davy_Jones  ;)
[01:03] <nalpha> tech_: using sudo
[01:03] <pedahzur> tim167: No, it's busid "PCI:1:0:0"
[01:03] <tech_> nalpha: i tried then it said :command not found"
[01:03] <nalpha> tech_: sudo vim /etc/fstab
[01:03] <nalpha> tech_: what command do you used ?
[01:04] <tech_> sudo /etc/fstab
[01:04] <nalpha> tech_: yes add VIM, it's console text editer
[01:04] <tim167> pedahzur, ok tried that, its still the same, x won't start
[01:04] <tech_> k now im in
[01:05] <tech_> nalpha: So what do i add into this file?
[01:05] <tim167> pedahzur, if i change "nvidia" to "nv" it does work but i dont have the possibility to use 2 screens then
[01:05] <nalpha> tech_: press "I" for insert new line, and press "esc" ":" "wq" after finish
[01:05] <Xteven> hello, I'm trying to run a second x.org instance with another configuration file. How can I tell startx to use another configuration file ? XORGCONFIG env var ? doesn't seem to work
[01:05] <nalpha> tech_: wq means write quit.
[01:05] <Smegzor> the partition I am trying to make is 318Gigs.  Is there an upper size limit?  I just found an article that suggests 200Gigs is the limit?
[01:06] <nalpha> Smegzor: Isn't ext3 support more than 200 G?
[01:06] <Frogzoo> Smegzor: possibly a bios issue
[01:06] <Frogzoo> max ext3 is HUUGE
[01:06] <pedahzur> tim167: I take it that it doesn't work using the nvidia driver?
[01:07] <NeTcOwBoy> ppl i neeed help
[01:07] <Smegzor> I found a bug report (recent) about this issue.  Making smaller partitions works.
[01:07] <tim167> pedahzur, nope, then X will not start
[01:07] <NeTcOwBoy> i download ubuntu 7 frm da site
[01:07] <nalpha> tech_: If you don't know what's the location of your drive, just try it first using sudo mount in the command line. and If you finished write code in /etc/fstab just use "sudo mount -a" command to run all of /etc/fstab.
[01:07] <tech_> nalpha: Umm its very odd because all my drives are in this file under "s=remount-ro 0"
[01:08] <pedahzur> tim167: What is the error X gives when it can't start? (Go to a terminal [Ctrl-Alt-F1] , log in, and type "startx").  What error do you get?
[01:08] <nalpha> tech_: ow your drive is listed in /etc/fstab?
[01:08] <tech_> nalpha: they are already there but they are not mounting
[01:08] <tech_> nalpha: Yes all 3 are there
[01:09] <tech_> sda1, sda2, sda5
[01:09] <nalpha> tech_: copy paste the file in pastebin.
[01:09] <tim167> pedahzur " XIO fatal io error 104...
[01:09] <tech_> ok i need to get pastbin
[01:09] <pedahzur> tim167: Hmm...anything else?
[01:09] <tim167> pedahzur, screens found but none have a usable configurations...
[01:09] <nojoints> Any knows how to get vlc stream on sites that has videos on them? I can't get it to work, all of them just opens with the media player that comes with ubuntu
[01:10] <NeTcOwBoy> i download ubuntu 7 frm da site then i extract it and put it in da cd but it dsnt boot y?
[01:10] <Pingviller> yay, all ubuntu now ;)
[01:11] <tim167> pedahzur, looks like there is a version conflict too, "nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this Xmodule has version 1.0-9631"
[01:11] <NeTcOwBoy> i download ubuntu 7 frm da site then i extract it and put it in da cd but it dsnt boot y?
[01:11] <tech_> nalpha: so how does this pastebin.com thing work?
[01:11] <ziroday> NeTcOwBoy: because you are talking like dis, ubuntu disnt like dis
[01:11] <NeTcOwBoy> what ??
[01:11] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: cuz das not how we do it
[01:11] <nalpha> copy the url that you will get after paste the etxt
[01:11] <NeTcOwBoy> what ??
[01:11] <nalpha> to here. text I mean
[01:11] <tech_> ok
[01:11] <pedahzur> tim167: That'd do it. :)  Make sure you are using an up-to-date version of restricted-drivers, and then reboot.  It sounds like something got out of sync.
[01:11] <Pingviller> now I just need to rebuild my file-archieve lol.. backup is for wuzzies
[01:12] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: you gots ta burn the disk without extractin, na mean?
[01:12] <NeTcOwBoy> what??
[01:12] <ziroday> NeTcOwBoy: were saying not to be a total retard on irc please speak properly
[01:12] <NeTcOwBoy> as iso ??
[01:12] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: cuz the boot information is misplaced when you extract
[01:12] <tim167> pedahzur, well i tried removing the restricted-drivers manager, but im not sure how to make sure i have the right version of the restricted drivers
[01:12] <nalpha> NeTcOwBoy: hm It should be boot, are you just burn the image file? what program do you used.
[01:12] <NeTcOwBoy> am newbe :S
[01:12] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: don't burn da file to a cd son, what's wrong witchu?
[01:12] <tech_> nalpha: http://pastebin.com/d11073737
[01:13] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: listen up, what burner program you using?
[01:13] <NeTcOwBoy> i jst copy it to the cd
[01:13] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: with what?
[01:13] <NeTcOwBoy> i ddnt use any progrm
[01:13] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: Nero, CDBurnerXP?
[01:13] <NeTcOwBoy> da progarm dat cum wid windows
[01:14] <tech_> nalpha: i that it?
[01:14] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: dat ain't cool
[01:14] <NeTcOwBoy> what :S
[01:14] <tech_> sorry IS that it
[01:14] <nalpha> tech_: so if you looking media/sda1 the folder is empty?
[01:14] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: download CDBurnerXP.. it's free
[01:14] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: use it to burn the iso to a disk
[01:14] <tim167> pedahzur, so i guess i start X using 'nv', then I have to somehow remove the old restricted drivers (how?) and install the latest version (or maybe i need an older one?)
[01:15] <Haijo> k
[01:15] <pedahzur> If you install restricted drivers, it should automatically install the version that matches your kernel
[01:15] <tech_> nalpha: Yep its empty
[01:15] <NeTcOwBoy> Davy_Jones u mean i dnt have to extract it ??
[01:15] <tim167> pedahzur, what if they are already installed ? (which is the case here )
[01:15] <ziroday> /whoia Davy_Jones
[01:16] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: NO, do not extract it and burn it.. by doin this, you misplace da boot files... dem files have to be in a certain location on da disk. otherwise, it won't boot
[01:16] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: extracting dem files causes troubles like dat
[01:16] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: you dig?
[01:16] <NeTcOwBoy> ok
[01:16] <Haijo> could someone help me with my onboard sound card?
[01:17] <Haijo> it sends sound to my pc speakers but not to my stereo... :(
[01:17] <ziroday> Haijo: please specify i.e. make and model
[01:17] <Haijo> Pentium Processor 4
[01:17] <pedahzur> tim167: what version is installed?  Do you have a specific version installed (such as linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-28-686) or do you have a meta package installed that will always depend on the latest version (such aslinux-restricted-modules-386 linux-restricted-modules-686, orlinux-restricted-modules-k7)
[01:17] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: yah, so download CDBurnerXP and go to File > Write CD from Image File or something
[01:17] <ziroday> Haijo: thats a processer, what sound card
[01:17] <Haijo> ah crap
[01:17] <tech_> nalpha: They are all empty
[01:17] <NeTcOwBoy> ok
[01:17] <Haijo> sorry man, I ment my to give my motherboard
[01:17] <nalpha> tech_: hm... how can... Make me confusing too... :(, so try adding the manual command, I didn't now why that's not working. Hm.. If you run sudo mount -a command, are the sda1 mounted?
[01:17] <Haijo> hold one
[01:18] <ziroday> Haijo: no problem
[01:18] <tech_> can you please help me out with the command?
[01:18] <tech_> nalpha?
[01:19] <tim167> pedahzur, i have: 2.6.20.5-25.20, two times also 2.6.20.5-16.29 two times (im looking in synaptic package manager)
[01:20] <stuart-> is there a metronome kinda software for ubuntu?
[01:20] <SID1> 
[01:20] <Davy_Jones> metronome?
[01:21] <tech_> nalpha: ok its tells me that idicated unclean shutdown and that the ntfs is marked to be in use????
[01:21] <ziroday> stuart-: im sure there is. let me go find one for you
[01:21] <tech_> WTF!!!
[01:21] <SlimeyPe1e> tech_: use ntfsfix
[01:21] <carretto> stuart-: use tuxguitar
[01:21] <stuart-> carretto, cool. same packagename? any idea where i could get a guitarpro reader as well?
[01:21] <SlimeyPe1e> tech_: nothing to worry about - it usually just means that Windows wanted to run scandisk but couldn't, or that there's a minor filesystem error
[01:22] <ziroday> stuart-: also look at gtick
[01:22] <stuart-> ziroday, neat, thanks.
[01:22] <nalpha> tech_: yup follow the SlimeyPe1e I'm can't help more far again... :)
[01:22] <ziroday> stuart-: np
[01:22] <tech_> i dont have the ntfs progs and wont download them either
[01:22] <nalpha> tech_: just install from apt-get
[01:22] <tech_> invalid operation install
[01:22] <SlimeyPe1e> tech_: then boot into windows and run scandisk, then shutdown properly and boot linux again.
[01:23] <NeTcOwBoy> bk
[01:23] <nalpha> tech_: sudo apt-get install ntfsfix
[01:23] <nalpha> tech_: yup but you can try restart to windows first and run scandisk.
[01:23] <Davy_Jones> man, real player for linux is much much more polite and less naggy than in windows i'm starting to like it
[01:23] <NeTcOwBoy> Davy_Jones soory but do u mean i shud copy da iso file ?
[01:23] <tech_> couldnt find package ntfsfix
[01:23] <esa> test
[01:23] <nalpha> tech_: sudo apt-get update
[01:24] <nalpha> tech_: make sure all repisotory open
[01:24] <nalpha> NeTcOwBoy: to burn bootable CD, you need to download the iso file.
[01:24] <tech_> yep they are its updating now
[01:24] <Andeh> Is there an ubuntu package for the XEN virtualisation program?
[01:24] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: no, you don't wanna copy the "iso file" to the disk.. you wanna copy the contents of the file.. just don't extract them yourself, the burner program has to do it
[01:24] <NeTcOwBoy> soory nalpha its da first time for me :D
[01:24] <Sonic1> hey, I need some help with the latest Compiz-Fusion. It's not showing my title bars and nobody in the compiz-fusion channel is strong willed enough to help me
[01:25] <Davy_Jones> NeTcOwBoy: did you install cdburnerxp?
[01:25] <NeTcOwBoy> am downlodng it nw
[01:25] <ziroday> Sonic1: do you have a nvidia card?
[01:25] <tim167> can anyone help me get nvidia drivers working, I had them working with an nvidia card, now switched to an nvidia card with dual head, and nvidia drivers stopped working, thanks
[01:25] <Andeh> Is there an ubuntu package for the XEN virtualisation program?
[01:25] <carretto> stuart-: what your ubuntu version?
[01:25] <Sonic1> yes ziroday, and I know it's the reason this is happening, I just don't know how to fix it
[01:25] <nalpha> tech_: hey, I dont find the ntfsfix program, SlimeyPe1e can you explain how to get the program? tech_: try to rrestart first, maybe the situation go normally?
[01:25] <Haijo> hey, ziriday, I can't finy my motherboard type and serial is there a way to let Ubuntu do the work? :p
[01:25] <ziroday> tim167: why did you use dual head, you should of used the nvidia win monitor
[01:26] <tech_> ok ill be back
[01:26] <skino> neading help with some driver issues. i have a Dell XPS laptop wuich i have had ubuntu on in thhe past. i reinstalled today and its only letting me use up to 1024x768 resolution. its also not letting me use my 24"Dell widescreen it just keeps going into powersave and i have to use laptop screen
[01:26] <ziroday> Sonic1: well known nvidia bug, lemme find you the relevant info
[01:26] <Andeh> Is XEN in the Ubuntu repos?
[01:26] <Davy_Jones> why is there only one answer when someone asks what image editor they should use?
[01:26] <tim167> ziroday, i physically switched cards, from an nvidia single to an nvidia dual and it just stopped working
[01:27] <Sonic1> ziroday, a lot of the info involves adding a line to the xorg.conf file which I already did and it still doesn't work. Unless you have something different that I haven't seen :D
[01:27] <skino> n e one help me with my issue?
[01:28] <pedahzur> tim167: Sorry about that.  Make sure you have the restricted drivers meta package installed for your kernel.  That will depend on the latest restricted drivers, and it should be the right versions.
[01:28] <ziroday> Sonic1: im afraid then there is nothing we can do to help you, it is due to you not having enough video memoey
[01:28] <pedahzur> tim167: What version of the kernel do you have installed?
[01:28] <KurtKraut> skino, check out if someone with the same hardware hard already fixed that in ubuntuforums.org
[01:28] <Haijo> I can't finy my motherboard type and serial is there a way to let Ubuntu do the work? :p
[01:28] <Sonic1> um... ziroday, my Video card has 256MB of video memory
[01:28] <Davy_Jones> !widescreen
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widescreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <stuart-> carretto, feisty
[01:28] <quirt33> I have a windscreen laptop (it runs natively on Mac OSX at 1280 x 800), but even after configuring it is only running a 1024 x 768 and no higher resoultions are shown in the creen reslolution perference box...how do I get it running at the correct resolution?
[01:28] <Pici> Haijo: sudo lshw | less
[01:28] <Sonic1> and if that isn't enough ziroday, then something is seriously wrong
[01:29] <ziroday> Sonic1: its how the drivers are written to use the video memory, what card?
[01:29] <carretto> stuart-: wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/tuxguitar/tuxguitar-0.9.1-ubuntu-7.04-1.deb?modtime=1177156157&big_mirror=0
[01:29] <ziroday> Sonic1: and i use 256MB as well
[01:29] <quirt33> I did configure x for 1280 x 800, it's just not showing up. I have intel chipset graphics
[01:29] <Sonic1> ziroday: It's a Geforce 7900GS
[01:29] <carretto> stuart-: you ned java..... java virtual machine
[01:29] <tim167> pedahzur, i looked in synaptic , under 'restricted' and have several versions aparently,
[01:29] <ziroday> Sonic1: gimme a min
[01:29] <carretto> stuart-: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[01:30] <pedahzur> tim167: Hmm....we need to make sure it matches with your currently installed kernel version.
[01:30] <carretto> stuart-: tuxguitar is a perfect clone for guitarpro... and have a metronome
[01:30] <ziroday> Sonic1: which drivers?
[01:30] <tim167> pedahzur, 2.6.20.5-15.20 and 2.6.30.5-16.29
[01:30] <Sonic1> ziroday, 1.0-9631
[01:30] <Andeh> I want to use XEN to run windows XP, which XEN packages do I need?
[01:31] <carretto> stuart-: ok?
[01:31] <tim167> pedahzur, i think i should match because it worked with the other video card
[01:31] <stuart-> carretto, k, trying
[01:31] <ziroday> Sonic1: nv or nvidia?
[01:31] <pedahzur> tim167: Right, but AFAIK, the nv driver doesn't require a kernel module.
[01:31] <Sonic1> ziroday, nvidia
[01:31] <pedahzur> tim167: Are you sure you have the latest nvidia-glx package installed?
[01:31] <stuart-> ziroday, btw it says /dev/dsp busy so i can't start the metronome
[01:32] <tim167> pedahzur, the previous video card was an nvidia and it worked with the "nvidia" driver
[01:32] <pedahzur> Ah.
[01:32] <rowan> Can anyone please remind me how to make it so i don't have to insert a password for the default keyring each time? something about putting @same or something in a file?
[01:32] <tim167> pedahzur, the current is also an nvidia card, but it does not work with the same nvidia driver
[01:33] <pedahzur> tim167: At this point, I'm at a loss.  I'm sorry!
[01:33] <ziroday> stuart-: close whatever programs are using your sound
[01:33] <ziroday> Sonic1: compuz fusio right?, di dyou ever have this issue with compiz or beryl
[01:33] <tim167> pedahzur, no problem thanks anyway
[01:33] <quirt33> I have a windscreen laptop (it runs natively on Mac OSX at 1280 x 800), but even after configuring it is only running a 1024 x 768 and no higher resoultions are shown in the creen reslolution perference box...how do I get it running at the correct resolution?
[01:33] <quirt33> I have a windscreen laptop (it runs natively on Mac OSX at 1280 x 800), but even after configuring it is only running a 1024 x 768 and no higher resoultions are shown in the creen reslolution perference box...how do I get it running at the correct resolution?
[01:34] <quirt33> oops...dpuble post
[01:34] <quirt33> I did configure x for 1280 x 800, it's just not showing up. I have intel chipset graphics
[01:34] <Sonic1> ziroday, yes, compiz-fusion, I actually had an older version of it installed that worked before this, I was trying to update my version to the latest
[01:34] <jgpoley> HOLA
[01:34] <quirt33> sonic1: #compzi-fusion
[01:34] <quirt33> sonic1: #compiz-fusion
[01:34] <Sonic1> quirt33, they aren't helping me there
[01:34] <ziroday> Sonic1: hmm, try this - cgwd & compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher &
[01:35] <Andeh> Hello.
[01:35] <Andeh> If I want to run Windows XP in XEN, what XEN packages do I need?
[01:35] <skino> i cant seem to find n e thing relavent to my issue
[01:35] <quirt33> Sonic1: yeah, they turned kinda nasty as of late.....try #beryl
[01:35] <tim167> can't i just remove all nvidia drivers and reinstall those so that it will find the right version for this card ?
[01:35] <Sonic1> ziroday, still no title bars, just a bunch of (gtk-window-decorator:27441): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
[01:35] <Haijo> right so I did sudo lshw | less, now the hell what?
[01:35] <ziroday> Sonic1: so only no titlebars?
[01:36] <quirt33> Sonic1: run emerald --replace& and then the other command nd give me the output
[01:36] <pedahzur> tim167: That may work, yes.
[01:36] <tech_> nalpha: Nup nothing dif at all
[01:36] <tim167> pedahzur, how do i do that ?
[01:36] <skino> neading help with some driver issues. i have a Dell XPS laptop wuich i have had ubuntu on in thhe past. i reinstalled today and its only letting me use up to 1024x768 resolution. its also not letting me use my 24"Dell widescreen it just keeps going into powersave and i have to use laptop screen
[01:36] <Sonic1> emerald isn'
[01:36] <quirt33> I have a windscreen laptop (it runs natively on Mac OSX at 1280 x 800), but even after configuring it is only running a 1024 x 768 and no higher resoultions are shown in the creen reslolution perference box...how do I get it running at the correct resolution?
[01:36] <Sonic1> emerald isn't installed quirt33
[01:36] <tech_> nalpha: nothing is working and Bye the way the hole ubuntu system has slowed down heaps
[01:37] <Pici> !fixres | quirt33
[01:37] <ubotu> quirt33: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:37] <quirt33> Sonic1: go install it, it's what draws the window borders ;)
[01:37] <ziroday> Sonic1: its because you have no window manager
[01:37] <pedahzur> tim167: uninstall the packages in package manager.
[01:37] <Sonic1> eh?
[01:37] <ziroday> Sonic1: try fusion-icon, its an easy way to mange the window borders
[01:37] <pedahzur> tim167: restricted drivers and nvidia-glx, that is.
[01:37] <tech_> nalpha: i think ill just reinstall completly becasue i love Ubuntu heaps better than windows but i like it to work properly
[01:37] <Sonic1> did my old window manager die once I installed the latest version?
[01:37] <quirt33> ziroday: he has the window manager, but no a decorat for it
[01:37] <ziroday> quirt33: sorry thats what i meant
[01:38] <Davy_Jones> Sonic1: how would we know? it's your old window manager
[01:38] <quirt33> Davy_Jones: pretty recent, he's running compiz fusion
[01:39] <jrib> 3/what
[01:39] <nalpha> tech_: so is Up To You, but the old way is always works... heheh5x.
[01:40] <ziroday> Sonic1: lol, just go and install emerald with - sudo apt-get install emerald
[01:40] <Sonic1> ziroday, aye captain
[01:40] <Sonic1> now what ziroday
[01:40] <ziroday> Sonic1: then after that install fusion-icon
[01:40] <quirt33> Sonic1: then run: emerald && compiz --replace. Tada!
[01:41] <ziroday> Sonic1: or do what quirt33 said
[01:41] <rataplan> hello
[01:41] <feiming> hi there
[01:41] <rataplan> i try to open ssh and i cant
[01:41] <feiming> is there any software in linux that could limit user proc and ram usage?
[01:41] <rataplan> can help me someone ?
[01:41] <Sonic1> hm
[01:42] <ziroday> rataplan: did you install ssh?
[01:42] <Sonic1> fusion-icon
[01:42] <tim167> when I do ctrl+alt+backspace i get 'connection to x server lost', when i do startx x server starts again, still nvidia drivers dont work, have to use 'nv' but have no dual screen possibility like that, can anyone help ?
[01:42] <rataplan> yes...and i open 22 port on router
[01:42] <ziroday> Sonic1: here its at trevino's repos
[01:42] <ziroday> Sonic1: ill get you a url
[01:42] <rataplan> i connect with ssh in other pcs
[01:43] <rataplan> but not other to my pc
[01:43] <Pici> rataplan: Do you have openss-server installed?
[01:44] <tim167> i get "the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631." how do i fix that ?
[01:45] <jonah> hey guys is there any way to mount a mac hfs+ drive in ubuntu?
[01:45] <Pici> !hfs | jonah
[01:45] <ubotu> jonah: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[01:45] <ziroday> Sonic1: here http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-sid/desktopfx/unstable/fusion-icon_0.1.1+git20070812-shame-1_i386.deb
[01:45] <ziroday> Sonic1: just wget that - wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/shames/debian-sid/desktopfx/unstable/fusion-icon_0.1.1+git20070812-shame-1_i386.deb
[01:46] <ziroday> Sonic1: and then install it
[01:46] <jonah> thanks
[01:46] <Sonic1> ziroday, I don't have compizconfig-python
[01:46] <ziroday> Sonic1: then install it
[01:47] <ziroday> Sonic1: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-python
[01:47] <tim167> i open restricted-drivers manager, and check 'enable' next to the nvidia driver, try to restart, but then get "the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631." how do i fix that ? thanks
[01:47] <ziroday> Sonic1: how didyou install compiz fusion
[01:47] <rataplan> Pici, yes its installef
[01:47] <rataplan> Pici, yes its installed
[01:47] <Sonic1> ziroday, I installed from source and the package isn't in the repo anyway
[01:48] <BCMM> what do i need to add to xorg.conf to make ctrl-alt-f1 work with a UK keyboard?
[01:48] <ziroday> Sonic1: ah, please try this emerald && compiz --replace
[01:48] <erUSUL> tim167: you probably has nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new instaled stick with only one of those
[01:49] <Sonic1> ziroday, I got a bunch of "(emerald:31461): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)"
[01:49] <ziroday> but does it run?
[01:49] <tim167> erUSUL i'll check
[01:51] <soundray> BCMM: you shouldn't have to make any change at all, if what you want ctrl-alt-f1 to do is to switch to the first virtual console.
[01:51] <Kano> hi, is there an option to boot without usplah
[01:51] <tim167> erUSUL, nope i had only nvidia-glx, not nvidia-glx-new, ill try only the latter now
[01:51] <rataplan> any idea to help for connect with ssh ?
[01:51] <soundray> Kano: yes, it's called nosplash
[01:51] <erUSUL> Kano: nosplash in boot options
[01:51] <Kano> will check
[01:52] <feiming> is there any software in linux that could limit user proc and ram usage?
[01:52] <timewriter> hi , anyone knows whats the name of the tool with gui , that allows to manage with partitions to be auto-mounted ?
[01:52] <erUSUL> tim167: have you tried to install the package from nvidia.com or/and used envy??
[01:52] <jonah> hey guys, how do i get a list from terminal of my hardrives?
[01:53] <tim167> erUSUL envy has hosed several of my systems, i dont think its wise to use that, installing from nvidia.com i could try maybe...
[01:53] <soundray> jonah: 'sudo fdisk -l' gives you a list of all readable partitions on all drives, which is probably what you want
[01:54] <asfalt> or if you just want to see all mounted drives and space/usage try 'df -h'
[01:54] <defrysk> or just mount
[01:54] <asfalt> mounted partitions rather
[01:54] <jonah> soundray, thanks, but i don't think it's showing up my usb drive on that command....
[01:54] <Kano> is there an option not to start x too? as debian/ubuntu has usally X in all runlevels...
[01:54] <tim167> grrr, I think it will take me less time to do a complete reinstall of ubuntu
[01:54] <insomninja> When I'm trying to burn an iso file with the built in program, the burning speed dropdown is greyed out and set to 'fastest possible' is there any way I can change that?
[01:55] <wers> on ubuntu, what is the keyboard shortcut for go back one page in firefox
[01:55] <wers> ?
[01:55] <BusMaster> is there any software other than kopete that can use a webcam during instatn messaging? My laptop's in-built webcam works well with ekiga, but in kopete it shows a solid green square :(
[01:55] <erUSUL> tim167: i'm not recomending either metods for installing the nvidia driver just triyng to guess why you ended up with missmatched kernel xorg driver versions
[01:55] <rowan> can anyone tell me how to make it so i don't have to insert the password for the keyring everytim ei startup, it gets annoying with my wireless connection.
[01:55] <soundray> jonah: are you trying to find out the device name of your USB drive? Try dmesg | grep sd
[01:55] <erUSUL> tim167: just uninstall the nvidia-glx and (re)install the nvidia-glx-new
[01:56] <faileas> BusMaster: ifor MSN, i think mercury supports it
[01:56] <tim167> erUSUL, it happend when i put in a new video card, the previous one was an NVIDIA, it worked with the restricted driver manager, then i switched to another NVIDIA card and it stopped working
[01:56] <BusMaster> faileas, er...for ywahoo?
[01:56] <faileas> then i have no idea
[01:56] <tim167> erUSUL, i did that just now, doesnt work (uninstall the nvidia-glx and (re)install the nvidia-glx-new)
[01:57] <erUSUL> tim167: maybe the restricted drivers manager messed things up... you should file a bug report against it
[01:57] <erUSUL> tim167: did you rebooted the machine? or rmmod the nvidia kernel module and modprobing it again? also restart X after that
[01:57] <Kano> tim167: basically it is possilbe to disable nv in restricted modules and install nvidia the standard way
[01:58] <UberPsyX> how can i manually mount a USB device?
[01:58] <tim167> erUSUL, can you show me horw to rmmod the nvidia kernel ?
[01:59] <Kano> tim167: only the kernel module but basially it is relatively unlikely that the wrong kernel module would even load
[01:59] <Kano> tim167: whats the new card
[02:00] <tim167> Kano geforce FX 5200, form asus
[02:00] <Kano> thats old
[02:00] <Kano> works with any driver
[02:00] <tim167> Kano well apparently it doesnt here
[02:00] <Kano> usally it does
[02:01] <Heme> greetz, I just formatted/deleted one of my partitions in windows with partiton magic 8 so that the space is now unallocated, is there some way I can now make it a new partition in ubuntu (or merge with current one)?
[02:01] <Kano> must be something else wrong
[02:01] <Rowan> can anyone tell me how to make it so i don't have to insert the password for the keyring everytim ei startup, it gets annoying with my wireless connection.
[02:02] <b4l74z4r> http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=2374 <-- is it true as it says here about audio in linux?
[02:02] <v-p-r> UberPsyx: http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11637.html <- decent guide for mounting USB
[02:02] <UberPsyX> v-p-r, thanks
[02:02] <soundray> Heme: yes, with gparted. Run it from a live CD - although not strictly necessary, you'll have fewer problems.
[02:02] <Davy_Jones> audio in linux sucks
[02:03] <rataplan> anyone to help with ssh ?
[02:03] <Heme> soundray, can I find it from synaptic? I used the alternative installation disc (had some probs with live CD)
[02:03] <Davy_Jones> b4l74z4r: but that guy didn't mention anything about *trying* to solve the problem
[02:04] <Heme> oh doh, nvm, I could just check >_>
[02:04] <queru> queru
[02:04] <stuart-> rataplan, what about it?
[02:04] <Davy_Jones> b4l74z4r: leaving the kernel development just for that? i think this is a fake from some hater
[02:04] <BigToe7000> is this the real thing i don't know cause i've never been here before
[02:04] <Heme> found it, thanks soundray
[02:04] <BigToe7000> I feel thunder in my heart should i walk away follow my soul
[02:04] <rataplan> stuart-, i try to connect from another pc to my pc with ssh and i cant
[02:04] <queru> rosa necesita hablar
[02:04] <b4l74z4r> i just don't understand why it's difficult to properly implement audio in linux
[02:05] <Davy_Jones> b4l74z4r: i agree that audio in linux is a little behind
[02:05] <rataplan> i have speedtouch 530 router and i open ports...
[02:05] <srivatsark> what the problem regarding ssh not connecting
[02:06] <rataplan> from my pc i can connect to another....not only in topic lan
[02:06] <soundray> rataplan: opening them is not enough - you have to forward the ports from the router to the ssh server as well.
[02:06] <rataplan> ok...i try it...thanks...
[02:07] <Kano> hmm init 1 maybe...
[02:08] <stuart-> carretto, any idea where's the ticker in tuxguitar?
[02:09] <carretto> stuart-: ticker?
[02:09] <Senken12> Hi, whenever I click "Audio Disc" at side of the File Browser when a CD is inserted, I get the message: ""cdda:///dev/hdc" is not a valid location"
[02:09] <Silky^WinD> :)
[02:09] <Senken12> And /media/cdrom0 comes up blank
[02:09] <stuart-> carretto, forgot the name that time. metronome
[02:10] <DeVDaS> !seen materialist
[02:10] <carretto> stuart-: wait
[02:11] <kronoman> hello
[02:12] <kronoman> well, I have this problem... seems that kubuntu always fails reading my boot CD
[02:12] <kronoman> I mean, I recorded a couple of CDs, with different recorders
[02:12] <kronoman> and well, every boot fails at some point with read errors
[02:12] <ipis> how can i charge my ipod since theres no itunes for linux
[02:12] <kronoman> ipis: Rhythmbox has support for ipod
[02:13] <Davy_Jones> kronoman: did you do check the sum?
[02:13] <kronoman> the sum of the iso is OK
[02:13] <kronoman> that is the weird thing
[02:13] <kronoman> maybe because my readers are IDE ?
[02:13] <ipis> kronoman:  okay ill try to charge my ipod using that
[02:13] <Senken12> Hi, whenever I click "Audio Disc" at side of the File Browser when a CD is inserted, I get the message: ""cdda:///dev/hdc" is not a valid location"
[02:13] <kronoman> I tried with 4 different readers
[02:13] <Senken12> And /media/cdrom0 comes up blank
[02:13] <kronoman> a samsung cd-r, a sony cd-rw, a lg dvd-rw and a old creative infra
[02:13] <MBR> hello folks
[02:14] <kronoman> everyone failed booting the CDs
[02:14] <kronoman> I recorded it twice
[02:14] <kronoman> I'm going to burn it again, in 2X this time...
[02:14] <Davy_Jones> kronoman: how do you know it failed?
[02:14] <Davy_Jones> what's the output
[02:14] <kronoman> mmm, can't remember now, is a read error on text console
[02:14] <kronoman> when booting
[02:14] <carretto> stuart-: layout --> show mixer
[02:15] <kronoman> I have only one computer to try this on, maybe is some other config thing that is conflicting?
[02:15] <kronoman> or DMA transfers, or something like that?
[02:15] <slytherin> parth_: ping
[02:15] <elmar> i got a problem with my audio card.. i can't play any sounds... i got 2 audio cards.. audigy 2 (this is the one i want to use) and inbuilt ac97 sound controller
[02:15] <KurtKraut> kronoman, are you checking the md5 before and after burning ?
[02:16] <carretto> stuart-: you composite a song... and play... you can ative metronome and mute de song
[02:16] <macpo3> elmar can you disable the inbuilt on the motherboard setup?
[02:16] <elmar> you mean in bios?
[02:16] <slytherin> elmar: is 'can't play sounds' same as 'can't play mo3'?
[02:16] <stuart-> k thanks'
[02:16] <kronoman> KurtKraut: I checked the md5 on the .iso before burning, but how I check after?
[02:16] <elmar> no i can't play sounds
[02:16] <elmar> any sounds..
[02:17] <KurtKraut> kronoman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#head-0e24f0b47485dda966483fe6b4afb79c6531114c
[02:17] <elmar> how would i go about disabling one audio card..?
[02:18] <Moez> Hello ! How can i install a .TTF font ?
[02:18] <jonah> soundray, i'm just trying to mount my mac hfs+ external usb drive on my ubuntu pc
[02:18] <jrib> !fonts > Moez (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:18] <soundray> !info hfsplus | jonah
[02:18] <ubotu> jonah: hfsplus: Tools to access HFS+ formatted volumes. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-12build1 (feisty), package size 45 kB, installed size 236 kB
[02:19] <kronoman> ok, thanks KurtKraut and Davy_Jones
[02:19] <KurtKraut> kronoman, you're welcome
[02:19] <Moez> jrib : Okay, Thx !
[02:19] <kronoman> another question, there is a standard way to configure a gamepad (in the old gameport)
[02:19] <kronoman> not a usb gamepad, but a old school gamepad
[02:19] <Bubba666> i use ubuntu 704 on my 64bit amd box. desktop edition. i want to use it as a server for my 233mhz system so i can use my 233mhz system as a thin client. how abouts do i do this?
[02:21] <soundray> kronoman: first hit on Google: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-set-up-a-gameportgamepad-or-joystick-in-ubuntu.html
[02:22] <ParaDoX34690> I have a dell 5150 laptop and everything is running perfectly with the exception of the keyboard shortcuts (volume up/down/mute, screen brightness, basically all of the FN keys...  Is there a way to enable them or install a driver for them?
[02:23] <ipis> how can i charge my ipod since theres no itunes for linux
[02:23] <Bubba666> ipis, doesn't the ipop chage using the usb cable?
[02:23] <kronoman> ipis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071
[02:23] <ParaDoX34690> ipis: there's a program that is totally Ipod compatible...
[02:23] <ben_underscore> ipis: just plug it into your usb port
[02:23] <carretto> ParaDoX34690: System -> Preferences - > keyboard shortcuts
[02:23] <Pici> !ipod | ipis
[02:23] <ubotu> ipis: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:23] <jrib> Bubba666: I've never done it, but see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThinClients
[02:24] <kronoman> !rockbox
[02:24] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[02:24] <nomad111> how do i keep my dvd drive on my laptop mounted
[02:24] <nomad111> or accessible if thats the right word
[02:24] <ipis> okay
[02:24] <ParaDoX34690> ipis: and all you have to do is plug it into the USB to charge it... you don't need any software to charge it
[02:24] <nomad111> if the drive idles then it will 'unmount'
[02:24] <kronoman> there is a way to unlock my cell phone Motorola L6i on Ubuntu?
[02:24] <nomad111> i have to eject and re-insert the disc in the drive
[02:24] <ben_underscore> nomad111: don't think it does
[02:24] <ben_underscore> nomad111: weird
[02:25] <ipis> ParaDoX34690:  sorry, but it wont
[02:25] <twofclubs> Hello everyone, im about to cry...im stitting here with my other laptop b/c my main laptop crashed...im getting the following error Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not availbe or failed to load and another error w/ The program 'apt-get ' is currently not installed.  YOu can install it by typing: apt-get install apt...but when i type apt-get install apt i get bash: apt-get:; command not found...somone please help me i have all of my word documents for med
[02:25] <emunity> Will Ubuntu on USB work a a Dell Latitude D820?  I cannot get Knoppix 3.6 to boot using the 2.4x or 2.6x kernel choices.  I cannot get Damn Small Linux to boot without using the initrd  file.  It just seems to read the USB media to quickly to read an actual image file on the USB.  Is there a Ubuntu Available to boot off USB stick but with a 2.4X kernel?  I need 2.4X right now for legacy reasons!!!
[02:25] <johnmc> do you do anything to make it unmount??
[02:25] <nomad111> ben_underscore:  right now if i go to see my mounted drives the cd drive is not in there
[02:25] <johnmc> seems extraordinary
[02:25] <nomad111> ben_underscore: ill do an eject and re-insert
[02:26] <jonah> soundray, there doesnt seem to be any instructions i can find of how to use this hfsplus app, i've already got it installed
[02:26] <ParaDoX34690> ipis: trust me bro... it will... I have a 30gb video Ipod... I can plug it into my cigerrette lighter and it'll charge... i do it all the time (no itunes there).
[02:26] <johnmc> is it in /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab??
[02:26] <jrib> twofclubs: I don't know about your error, but you should load a live cd and backup your data if you haven't done so already
[02:26] <KurtKraut> twofclubs, your issue is quite complex. Describing it in ubuntuforums.org may be more helpful
[02:26] <ipis> ParaDoX34690:  hmm i guess it just doesnt show "charging" ?
[02:26] <theblackhatxyzzx> i have installed 3ddesktop in my desktop i know it has installed successfully but i dont see any icon of t either to i see any change in my computer
[02:26] <twofclubs> how do i backup my info??
[02:26] <tru_`z24> Question, I wake up and my ubuntu box has rebooted.  How can I find out why, if there was no power outage? (it would not have been from someone rebooting it manually)
[02:27] <nomad111> ben_underscore: now it appears
[02:27] <ParaDoX34690> ipis: and when I'm on my windows box, i just plug it into usb and only open Itune when I want to dump music on it... you don't need itunes to charge... Look up at the battery icon on it... you won't see the full-screen "charging" icon...
[02:27] <johnmc> I had to install yamipod to get ipod working
[02:27] <soundray> jonah: it comes with man pages. Try man hpmount
[02:27] <ipis> ParaDoX34690:  is just says "do not disconnect"
[02:27] <twofclubs> how do i back up my word documents with the live cd
[02:27] <ParaDoX34690> carretto: thanks for the input on the keyboard shortcuts ;)
[02:27] <nomad111> ben_underscore: it doesnt matter now ill look for a solution tomorrow
[02:27] <johnmc> it works perfectly and seamlessly so far
[02:27] <theblackhatxyzzx> i have installed 3ddesktop in my desktop i know it has installed successfully but i dont see any icon of t either to i see any change in my computer
[02:27] <ipis> ParaDoX34690:  and im not sure if its charging =D
[02:28] <jrib> twofclubs: after you boot ubuntu on the livecd, mount the partition your installed ubuntu is on, and then copy the documents to removable media
[02:28] <johnmc> Ipis: did you read what I just said about ipods
[02:28] <carretto> ParaDoX34690: solved?
[02:28] <ParaDoX34690> ipis: I'm fairly sure it is bro...
[02:28] <theblackhatxyzzx> anybody there?
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> tru_`z24: A marginal power supply can cause odd problems... OVerheating can as well
[02:28] <ipis> okay thanks then
[02:28] <Bubba666> tru_`z24, usualy when a system does a stontanous reboot. it's because the memory, cpu fan or misc other hardware is starting to fail
[02:28] <twofclubs> how do i mount the install partition?
[02:28] <ipis> johnmc:  where?
[02:28] <theblackhatxyzzx> i have installed 3ddesktop in my desktop i know it has installed successfully but i dont see any icon of t either to i see any change in my computer
[02:28] <ParaDoX34690> carretto: I think so... i'm in class at college right now, so I don't want to experiment until break :)
[02:29] <Bubba666> afk
[02:29] <johnmc> look in google
[02:29] <elmar> so can anyone help... i got no sound..what so ever - two audio cards.. one in built second audigy2
[02:29] <soundray> !diskmounter | twofclubs
[02:29] <ubotu> twofclubs: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[02:29] <tru_`z24> Jack_Sparrow: , Bubba666 , are there any kind of logs or debug logs that can verify this?
[02:29] <jonah> soundray, ah found something called xhfs in synaptic so will try that
[02:29] <jrib> twofclubs: sudo mkdir /media/mountpoint && sudo mount /dev/FOOBAR /media/mountpoint    where /dev/FOOBAR corresponds to the partition your ubuntu is on.  Use 'sudo fdisk -l' if you're not sure which partition it is on
[02:29] <soundray> jonah: did you get my reply?
[02:29] <johnmc> or just type in ipod for ubuntu in the google search in firefox theres heaps of em yamipod worked for me
[02:30] <theblackhatxyzzx> elmar is that you arent getting any sound from startup i mean you arent getting th UBUNut spund at start up?
[02:30] <elmar> yep..
[02:30] <emunity> THere is a script in Knoppix 5.1.1 as you boot to USB it sais it slowing down device in order for it to read the media.  I which I could do that in knoppix 3.6 version?  I already tried to copy the short script from the Knoppix version 5.1.1 linuxrc to the 3.6 and I got a kernel panic
[02:30] <ParaDoX34690> corretto: i can press the button combinations, and it's showing me a graphic for mute and all that, but i don't think it's actually working...
[02:30] <theblackhatxyzzx> youve checked the sound card thoroughly?
[02:30] <kronoman> there is a way to unlock my cell phone Motorola L6i on Ubuntu?
[02:30] <theblackhatxyzzx> is that working with any other OS?
[02:30] <jrib> twofclubs: you rejoin this chat after you are on the live ubuntu and someone can help you at the same time you do it too...
[02:31] <soundray> jonah: xhfs is unsuitable for hfs+ volumes
[02:31] <elmar> i checked that both are recognized in hardware information... that's about it
[02:31] <jonah> soundray, i can't seem to find what my drive is called to open it though
[02:31] <theblackhatxyzzx> i have installed 3ddesktop in my desktop i know it has installed successfully but i dont see any icon of t either to i see any change in my computer
[02:31] <twofclubs> jrib: that sounds fantastic...is it possible for you just to help me since you've been so helpful
[02:31] <tru_`z24> I assume ubuntu doesn't know there is a problem tho.  if there is a hardware problem, some system call will fail and the kernel will panic, I was just hoping a log would be created when the kernel panic'd and that way i could narrow down which piece of hardware was failing.
[02:31] <jrib> twofclubs: sure, just say my name in here when you join
[02:31] <johnmc> I dont think ubuntu can read hfs I'm fairly sure I read that in my ipod research
[02:31] <twofclubs> i really really need my med school documents saved
[02:32] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: beryl, compiz?
[02:32] <twofclubs> are you going to be around for a little while?
[02:32] <jrib> twofclubs: yes
[02:32] <johnmc> what format are they in two of clubs
[02:32] <twofclubs> johnmc: my ubuntu crashed
[02:32] <twofclubs> i have .doc and .odt files on there
[02:33] <tru_`z24> twofclubs: go get a usb drive
[02:33] <johnmc> you should be able to reboot off the install disk
[02:33] <tru_`z24> twofclubs: they are cheap as hell :-)
[02:33] <soundray> jonah: PLEASE have a look at man hpmount. It isn't that difficult.
[02:33] <johnmc> its a liveCD nothing changes on it
[02:33] <twofclubs> i have a removable 500gb seagate
[02:33] <theblackhatxyzzx> carretto it 7.04
[02:33] <twofclubs> but i haven't backed up in the past week...cuz im an idiot
[02:33] <tru_`z24> Mount the drive and copy your files over then :-)
[02:34] <twofclubs> i dunno how to do that...as soon as i get a burned copy of feisty im gona need some help with that
[02:34] <elmar> anyone know how i can disable one of my audio cards..?
[02:34] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: yes,,,, 7.04 is your ubuntu version...but... what your desktop 3d? is a beryl? is a compiz?
[02:34] <LinuxHelp> Hallo, basically my command looks like this "mount -t ntfs -o loopback,ro /var/MyDiskImg.raw" unfortunately it doesn't work as the file is the entire disk, and I need the first partition for the mount. Basically "fdisk /var/MyDiskImg.raw" works and shows the partition 1 as ntfs. How do I access the first partition of /var/MyDiskImg.raw ? Basically /var/MyDiskImg.raw1. And also, I know the offset of the first partition, it's 512 bytes
[02:34] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: anhother?
[02:34] <BetaTester> Hi all. I just installed Dapper and need to upgrade only cupsys. apt-get install cupsys will not upgrade it. What do I do?
[02:34] <jonah> soundray, i have but it says to open the source path and i don't know what this is
[02:35] <twofclubs> tru_`z24: i got fiber optics so the download shouldn't take too much longer
[02:35] <Azgarth>  i've just installed ubuntu studio, and x.org gives me  an error, "caught signal 11. server aborting" to be exact, ie googled a bit, but since this is the first time i actively gonna try linux, i've no idea how to fix this, any ideas?
[02:35] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: you will most likely need to compile the newer version yourself
[02:35] <johnmc> two of clubs you could start feisty in failsafe mode and copy the files from the terminal there you'll just have to type the paths for everything
[02:35] <twofclubs> hmm...how do i do that?
[02:35] <johnmc> you'll just have a dos type window
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> elmar: In your cmos / bios
[02:35] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE, I need cups 1.2.2 which is in the repositories. Standard cups with dapper is 1.2.0.
[02:35] <johnmc> start it up select sessions
[02:36] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: you use any tutorial?
[02:36] <johnmc> choose failsafe terminal and login
[02:36] <theblackhatxyzzx> its 0.2.9
[02:36] <elmar> Jack_Sparrow: ok i'll try that.. cheers
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: have you confirmed that its in the dapper repos
[02:36] <theblackhatxyzzx> nop
[02:36] <slytherin> BetaTester: 1.2.2 is in which reposirories?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> elmar: Should be called onboard sound... disable
[02:36] <theblackhatxyzzx> i was jus tweakin around synaptinc manager and i found it
[02:36] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/cupsys there it is
[02:36] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: what you install?
[02:36] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: what package?
[02:37] <slytherin> Paddy_EIRE: Please don't recommend packages from debian
[02:37] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE, slytherin This is not my first install of Dapper. If I do apt-get upgrade it will upgade everything including cupsys to 1.2.2 but I need only cupsys 1.2.2
[02:37] <slytherin> BetaTester: Please don't use packages form debian
[02:37] <Paddy_EIRE> slytherin: errr
[02:37] <theblackhatxyzzx> i installed it from synaptic package manager i have no idea abt it
[02:37] <Azgarth> any ideas?
[02:37] <BetaTester> I won't except for gs :)
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> BetaTester: Which repo has what you need... ?
[02:38] <Paddy_EIRE> then maybe I should uninstall ubuntu then slytherin ;)
[02:38] <slytherin> BetaTester: What error does the apt-get install command give?
[02:38] <emunity> I'll BBL
[02:38] <Haijo> hey, how do I reinstall Ubuntu?
[02:38] <BetaTester> Jack_Sparrow the repo is already in my sources.list. I need a console command to upgrade only cupsys! slytherin I have on errors. I need to upgrade from console only cupsys
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> BetaTester: Going to debian for that is a BAD idea
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> oh my bad
[02:39] <carretto> theblackhatxyzzx: try System --> preference --> desktop effects
[02:39] <Paddy_EIRE> 1.2.2 aint in the dapper repos
[02:39] <slytherin> BetaTester: I don't see why the install command is not working. That is the way I would do it.
[02:39] <johnmc> you can get to cups through your browser its just localhost:631
[02:39] <Azgarth> can anyone help? i don want to bug people, but i would like to use my system, and it hard to do anything like this
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> BetaTester: Let me look at the feisty repo
[02:40] <Haijo> Anyone? I kind f*cked my partitions so I'd like to reinstall Ubuntu using the Live CD
[02:40] <Haijo> how do i do that?
[02:40] <johnmc> whats wrong Azgarth
[02:40] <BetaTester> ok Paddy_EIRE, it should be there cos I if I do an: apt-get upgrade (with standard dapper LTS repos) I receve all upgrades including 1.2.2
[02:40] <Paddy_EIRE> slytherin: he may have to download the latest version himself from their site
[02:40] <Azgarth>  i've just installed ubuntu studio, and x.org gives me  an error, "caught signal 11. server aborting" to be exact, ie googled a bit, but since this is the first time i actively gonna try linux, i've no idea how to fix this
[02:40] <BetaTester> so 1.2.2 is in the standard repos
[02:40] <Haijo> booting from the CD doesn't work, it just starts the normal Ubuntu
[02:40] <soundray> jonah: here is another approach:
[02:40] <Azgarth> haijo, i take it you got to boot from disc first?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> BetaTester: Feisty has 1.2.8
[02:41] <web_knows> how to manage which services I want to start with the system, through the console?
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: yeah why dont you use feisty
[02:41] <johnmc> just boot it off the CD you'll have to change the bootup order in your BIOS first when you boot up
[02:41] <dgjones> Haijo, you need to go into your computer's bios setting and change the boot order so that cd is 1st, followed by floppy and then hdd
[02:41] <Azgarth> johnmc?
[02:41] <drowner> Hi everyone
[02:41] <slytherin> BetaTester: I don't see a cupsys 1.2.2 in any repos of ubuntu
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> BetaTester: I would suggest checking edgy repo as well..
[02:41] <johnmc> yes azgarth
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[02:42] <theblackhatxyzzx> hey when i tried it the GNOME was restarted
[02:42] <Azgarth> any idea how i can get x.org to work with ubustu?
[02:42] <johnmc> did you get into the os
[02:42] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: show me where cup sys 1.2.2 is in there
[02:42] <soundray> jonah: find out the device name of your USB drive (dmesg | grep sd), then, assuming that it's /dev/sda, just try different partition numbers in the following command: 'sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[02:42] <drowner> I wonder if anyone knows a good program that can organise my music files into a structured library. I have easytag but it doesnt seem to work with m4a files.
[02:42] <Azgarth> i've used the proper install disc, and the install gives no problems
[02:42] <johnmc> cups is localhost:631 in all linux browsers
[02:42] <johnmc> or port 631 in english
[02:43] <slytherin> Azgarth: then what is the problem? Are you not getting graphical login screen?
[02:43] <jonah> soundray, dmesg says i attached an scsi generic sg6 type 0
[02:43] <Azgarth> i'm not
[02:43] <soundray> drowner: I like exfalso, but I don't know if it can deal with m4a
[02:43] <Azgarth> i getting a "caught signal 11. server aborting" error
[02:43] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE, I have done this 15 times :(. I really do not see the cupsys, but every time I do an upgrade from console my cups is upgraded to 1.2.2
[02:43] <BetaTester> I have it on all my PC-s
[02:43] <slytherin> Azgarth: If you are getting command line, try command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and then reboot
[02:43] <drowner> soundray: fair enough.... i'll look into it. Its unusual that nothing can seem to sort the m4a tags, when most music players can read them, no problem.
[02:43] <Azgarth> and with no idea how to fix that, i a rookie here, and googling gave me little of use
[02:44] <soundray> jonah: oh, so there's no indication of it getting detected as a mass storage device?
[02:44] <johnmc> did you do something to your xorg.conf Azgarth
[02:44] <Azgarth> nope
[02:44] <BetaTester> and they are company PC-s This time I wanted to ugprade only cups...
[02:44] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: may I see your source.list
[02:44] <Azgarth> i just installed ubuntu studio
[02:44] <web_knows> how to manage which services I want to start with the system, through the console?
[02:44] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin | BetaTester
[02:44] <ubotu> BetaTester: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:44] <Azgarth> but i trying that as we speak
[02:44] <johnmc> it should still do the failsafe boot try ctrl alt del to restart
[02:44] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE I post the source list of a pc with 1.2.2 ok?
[02:44] <jonah> soundray, i don't think so, i'm a bit lost here in the dark - not sure what i'm looking for as it doesn't seem to be doing anything when i plug it in to the usb slot
[02:44] <slytherin> Azgarth: Do you have xserver-xorg package installed?
[02:45] <soundray> jonah: did you do a 'dmesg | grep sd'?
[02:45] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: post the sources.list of the pc your saying is installing cup sys 1.2.2 from
[02:45] <Azgarth> with ubuntu studio, you get a standard install, plus 4 packets you can choose from, i followed a guide, and like the guide selected all four
[02:46] <jonah> soundray, yeah
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Azgarth: whats studio like?
[02:46] <soundray> jonah: any output?
[02:46] <johnmc> if you have grub installed you can press escape when it asks and get it to start on an earlier install
[02:46] <jrib> Azgarth: #ubuntustudio is probably a better place to ask, they may be familiar with the issue
[02:46] <Azgarth> http://ubustu.com/
[02:46] <Shaye> linux sees sata drive exactly as ide one? e.g /dev/hda?
[02:46] <Azgarth> thanks, checking now
[02:46] <Paddy_EIRE> Azgarth: I have the theme but dont really know apart from that which other apps are specific
[02:46] <jonah> soundray, nothing
[02:47] <elmar> Jack_Sparrow: thanks.. worked
[02:47] <soundray> jonah: then your device is not compatible with the USB mass storage protocol. Is it a music player?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> elmar:)
[02:48] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE I will post in on my site cos pastebin is telling I am spamming :D
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Shaye: It should see it as /sda
[02:48] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: :) no probs
[02:48] <dgjones> Shaye, ubuntu should see all drives as /dev/sd* now. /dev/hd* is now treated as being sata
[02:49] <Azgarth> ubuntustudio seems to be idle
[02:49] <dgjones> !blkid | Shaye, the links on this should explain the logic behind all drives being /sd*
[02:49] <ubotu> Shaye, the links on this should explain the logic behind all drives being /sd*: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:49] <dgjones> !uuid | Shaye, sorry, its this link
[02:49] <ubotu> Shaye, sorry, its this link: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[02:49] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE, look here www.niti95.com/temp/sources.list
[02:49] <Frogzoo> ubotu - uuids still suck
[02:50] <Shaye> thanks ill have a look
[02:50] <Jork> hello I am absoulte beginner in linux and I'am wondering wich command I must use to run filename.sh file?
[02:50] <fistikuff1> hi total noob here looking for help with ubuntu. Am i in the right place?
[02:50] <soundray> fistikuff1: yes, just ask
[02:51] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: out of interest do this in terminal 'sudo aptitude search cupsys'
[02:51] <BetaTester> ok Paddy_EIRE
[02:51] <fistikuff1> thanks. I tried to install the ubuntu restricted extras but i accidentally cancelled the install and now it seems nothing will install
[02:51] <soundray> Jork: 'sh filename.sh' -- is this in order to install something?
[02:52] <Jork> if I use sh filename.sh source gives me an error
[02:52] <soundray> fistikuff1: open a terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal) and run 'sudo apt-get -f install'. It'll ask for your user password.
[02:52] <soundray> Jork: is this in order to install something?
[02:52] <Pici> Jork: try `bash filename.sh`
[02:52] <ykc> how to wine myob
[02:52] <Jork> is this means that is something wrong with specific program?
[02:52] <Frogzoo> !appdb | ykc
[02:52] <ubotu> ykc: Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:52] <dgjones> !wine | ykc
[02:52] <ubotu> ykc: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:53] <soundray> Jork: is this in order to install something?
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: well... anything? which version is in the results
 yes
[02:53] <BetaTester> http://www.niti95.com/temp/result.txt this is it Paddy_EIRE
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> fistikuff1: run synaptic.. it should give you an error and the command dpkg something to fix it
[02:53] <soundray> Jork: what are you installing?
[02:53] <knifepoint> Can someone help me with my bash script or suggest a channel? its a quick simple one
[02:53] <Hadron> following a reinstall I dont see running processes such as amarok on my gbine taskbar anyone. What do I need to configure to see them?
[02:53] <ykc> thank u
[02:53] <fistikuff1> soundray...i got the following error msg: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:53] <fistikuff1> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:53] <fistikuff1> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[02:53] <Hadron> s/gbine/Gnome
[02:53] <kauer> knifepoint: Ask your question.
 evede 3.01 on ubuntu feisty
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> fistikuff1: OK, go to a terminal and rtun that command
 *Devede
[02:54] <soundray> fistikuff1: no pasting please. So, run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:54] <knifepoint> i run "ps -A | grep myth" and then need to get the pid for the kill command
 I am trying to burn audio DVD
[02:54] <TheSkorm> ah good old uuntu support
[02:54] <johnmc> azgarth are you having any joy I had to pop out for a few mins
 pardon video DVD
[02:55] <Azgarth> getting a "no screens found        f"" error now
[02:55] <soundray> Jork: there is an ubuntu package for this software. Please don't install other packages if a specific ubuntu one is available
[02:55] <Azgarth> since i tried that command and selected ati
[02:55] <soundray> !info devede | jork
[02:55] <ubotu> jork: devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 449 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[02:55] <fistikuff1> sorry. i ran the command and got the following: dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privellages
[02:55] <kauer> knifepoint: The nicest way is if the program that starts mythtv writes the PID into a file (typically in /var/run) so that you can "hkill -TERM `cat pidfile`".
[02:55] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: hmm, no version numbers... I really think you should download the required source packages for cupsys (the version you require) and build yourself, there is much help here for achieving this... also consider upgrading to feisty its much better :D
[02:55] <soundray> Jork: you will have to enable the multiverse repository. Please read the private messages from ubotu
 thnx
[02:55] <soundray> !software > Jork
[02:55] <soundray> !repos > Jork
[02:55] <BetaTester> NO Vesion, Paddy_EIRE -> http://www.niti95.com/temp/screen.jpg
[02:56] <Frogzoo> fistikuff1: you need to run dpkg with sudo
[02:56] <kauer> knifepoint: The next nicest way (as long as you don't have multiple identically named processes) is killall - "killall mythtv" or similar (man killall).
[02:56] <knifepoint> oh damn thought i could just grab the first string using $1 or something like that just wanted a script to close myth as it has a lock on my tvcard
[02:56] <KalleDK> How can start a program on boot as a user.. I need to run the command myprog -D and it has to be the user kalle who runs it
[02:56] <Kalleos> dont highlight me O_o
[02:56] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE I have used feisty some things are not touched well i.e. I cannot print via http or ipp from feisty to dapper :D only via samba is possible
[02:56] <soundray> fistikuff1: please read carefully. 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:56] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: thats a little odd
[02:56] <johnmc> azgarth are you following someone elses instructions, theres no point listening to me one set at a time should cover it
[02:56] <Frogzoo> Kalleos: sys -> prefs -> session
[02:56] <KalleDK> Kalleos HAHA though I was the one and only
[02:57] <fistikuff1> frogzoo: thats a bit over my head do you mean type sudo before the command?
[02:57] <kauer> knifepoint: But if you really want to do it your way, use "man ps", then craft a ps that just outputs the pids and enough identifying command line, and use (eg) "cut" to pick off the pid filed.
[02:57] <soundray> fistikuff1: JUST READ carefully
[02:57] <Azgarth> i  not following someone elses instructions
[02:57] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE I have used cups 1.2.8 on dapper from source but belive me this is a big mistake
[02:57] <Azgarth> accept for "
 Azgarth: If you are getting command line, try command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and then reboot"
[02:57] <Azgarth> that worked, selected ati, now im getting this error
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> fistikuff1: paste everything he gave you from '   to     '
[02:57] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE I will have to go for apt-get upgrade :(((((((
[02:57] <KalleDK> Frogzoo: Its a server (think your respond was to me)
[02:58] <Paddy_EIRE> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=cupsys&searchon=sourcenames&subword=1&version=all&release=all <-- BetaTester
[02:58] <fistikuff1> ok that seemed to work should i try to reinstall the package
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> fistikuff1: Do not include the '     '
[02:58] <johnmc> bugger, do you have an ati card for sure?
[02:58] <Smegzor> My boot partition is on hdd1.  What numbers do I need to refer to hdd1 in grub using the format (hdx,x)?
[02:58] <kauer> knofepoint: It's possible with ps to specify what fields you want and in what order - "man ps"
[02:58] <knifepoint> kauer: killall is sufficient for what i want thanks for the help kauer
[02:58] <soundray> fistikuff1: now do a 'sudo apt-get -f install' again
[02:58] <johnmc> ati and nvidia cards generally need patches for X
[02:58] <amparo_mala> muy buenas
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[02:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:59] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: It aint that painfull
[02:59] <amparo_mala> alguien sabe como eliminar todas las revisiones en subversin? con svn
[02:59] <soundray> Smegzor: if this is your fourth disk, it will be '(hd3,1)'
[02:59] <primoit> hi, my cd/dvd drives are not working well, what can i do?
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> primoit: Explain what is not working...
[02:59] <primoit> at kurumin linux they works perfectly
[02:59] <soundray> Smegzor: sorry, (hd3,0)
[02:59] <johnmc> when you say not working well??
[03:00] <primoit> my mp3 burned at a dvd are listed on the XMMS, but all have the 00:00 time and doesnt play
[03:00] <Azgarth> johnmc, i tried slytherin tip about using sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' and then reboot, and then selected ati, i haven tried anything else yet, i'm getting a no screens found error instead of the caught signal 11 error i did before, i'm on a laptop with an ati radeon x1600 mobility
[03:00] <Azgarth> what patch?
[03:00] <Smegzor> Its weird.  I only have 1 physical disk.  It only works on IDE2 and it always appears as secondary slave, never secondary master.
[03:01] <johnmc> you need to apt-get install xmms-mp3
[03:01] <fistikuff1> ok that seems to be working but i have one more really dumb question. the 'configuring sun java' splash is displayed in the terminal waiting for me to hit the 'ok' prompt but i don't know what to click. This is how i messed up last time
[03:01] <SoulChild> how do i remove gdmflexiserver ?
[03:01] <johnmc> then you apt-get install xmms mp4
[03:01] <primoit> i got the automatix 2, but its not effect
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> primoit: what are you using to burn them
[03:01] <soundray> Smegzor: make sure the jumper settings are for a master drive.
[03:01] <johnmc> to install the codecs
[03:01] <Dan[ITA] > hi everyone! I'd like to install ubuntu on a USB Pen (2gb) do you know if there's a light version of the OS?
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[03:01] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[03:01] <primoit> nero ultra 7.7.1
[03:02] <johnmc> either that or in the google box type how to install codecs ubuntu
[03:02] <primoit> Jack_Sparrow:  in another distro it works well
[03:02] <soundray> !install | Dan[ITA] , scroll down this page
[03:02] <ubotu> Dan[ITA] , scroll down this page: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:02] <Phoenix92x> hi, I'm having some trouble getting the dell printer driver for my 1815dn installed. It installs via something called the Unified Linux Driver Installer; it complains at me that I either don't have SANE installed, don't have CUPS installed or don't have Ghostscript installed, yet which (foo) shows their locations. The installer then hangs at 98%, can anyone help me?
[03:02] <johnmc> but they dont ship with the codecs installed cos that goes against copywrite
[03:03] <kapau> hello guys
[03:03] <primoit> e ai
[03:03] <johnmc> you have to promise not to use them then install yourself lol
[03:03] <Azgarth> so i type "apt-get install xmms-mp3"?
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> primoit: This us Ubuntu... we do not recommend zutomatix to install software  or drivers like that...  HAve you tried K3B
[03:03] <Azgarth> oh wait, not for me
[03:04] <soundray> johnmc: please use the nick of the person you are replying to.
[03:04] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE yeah I have watched this in distrowatch too. These are the stock cupsd. My problem is that my 7 printers just su.. They are Konica Minolta 1400W
[03:04] <primoit> Jack_Sparrow:  no.. what is?
[03:04] <kapau> i was wondering where i can look for help with regards to the installation. I'm using the live cd right now but this cd doesn't want to install on my other comp :( i'm not so sure what the problem is it gets stuck on the ubuntu loading screen :(
[03:04] <johnmc> no Azgarth sorry I recommend you boot off the CD now it seems all else has failed
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !k3b > primoit
[03:04] <primoit> kaffeine?
[03:04] <Azgarth> ubuntu studio has no live cd
[03:04] <dv_> hello, anyone ever tried to add PCF fonts to the .fonts dir?
[03:04] <Paddy_EIRE> BetaTester: wow...Have you searched this issue up on the forums
[03:04] <mattie> me lyke caffien
[03:04] <Azgarth> but im  gonna see and try what i can find
[03:04] <dv_> after running ttmkfdir, the pcf fonts are listed in the fonts.dir file
[03:04] <dv_> but not in fonts.scale
[03:04] <johnmc> ubuntu itself does
[03:05] <dv_> I also tried mkfontscale
[03:05] <primoit> ;/
[03:05] <johnmc> use google a lot
[03:05] <johnmc> its your best tool generally for fixes
[03:05] <soundray> johnmc: PLEASE use the nick of the person you are replying to.
[03:06] <johnmc> soundray: sorry
[03:06] <mattie> me lyke caffien
[03:06] <mattie> !kubuntu
[03:06] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:06] <mattie> !xubuntu
[03:06] <mattie> :| gay
[03:06] <mattie> !kde
[03:07] <soundray> mattie: stop this please
[03:07] <mattie> :| gay
[03:07] <dgjones> !ops | mattie
[03:07] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[03:07] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[03:07] <ubotu> mattie: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:07] <BetaTester> Paddy_EIRE it is so bad that I make the postings :D -> http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?27,229  I have a second post there too. I will have to do a third one cos network printing requires cups upgrades
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kapau: You can try hitting F6 and removing quiet and splasn from the command line to see where it is hanging up
[03:07] <dgjones> Hobbsee, thanks
[03:07] <Hobbsee> no problem
[03:07] <fredl> I just added an IDE disk to my system, making it replace my DVD ROM. I see the HD in the dmesg output but the device file /dev/hd* is not there.
[03:08] <fredl> when I do cd /dev; ./MAKEDEV hda, it says something about udev being active and making the device file in /dev/.static/...
[03:08] <johnmc> fredl: could be listed as /udev/hdx
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> fredl: Look in your fstab
[03:08] <soundray> fredl: it'll be a /dev/sd*
[03:08] <fistikuff1> can anyone help with my silly problem?
[03:08] <soundray> fredl: 'sudo fdisk -l'
[03:09] <fredl> there's no /udev johnmc.
[03:09] <johnmc> ok
[03:09] <fredl> thanks soundray, that helps.
[03:09] <johnmc> look in /etc/fstab
[03:09] <kapau> hi guys what does the bios cutoff mean? i think it's affecting my installation of Ubuntu on my old pc :(
[03:09] <soundray> fistikuff1: what's the problem
[03:09] <Jack_Sparrow> kapau: try F6 and noapic added to the command line
[03:10] <primoit> Jack_Sparrow: the dvd is not the problem.. works on win and kde
[03:10] <soundray> !blkid > fredl, if you're interested why...
[03:10] <johnmc> kapau sounds like turning off the basic input output system which puts the computer to death
[03:10] <fistikuff1> the java installation has hung at an ok prompt and i don't know how to @'ok' it
[03:10] <fredl> tnx soundray. it would appear that the IDE disk has placed itself before my SATA disks now :P
[03:10] <jrib> fistikuff1: TAB, ENTER
[03:10] <soundray> fistikuff1: how are you installing java?
[03:11] <TayZonday> oh
[03:11] <kapau> thanks for the tips... what happens usually is that i get stuck on the screen where the ubuntu logo is in and the bar is loading...freezes after a certain point. is that the effect of the bios cutoff thing
[03:11] <TayZonday> whats up guys
[03:11] <genii> KalleDK: If you open with a text editor one of the startup scripts in /etc/init.d that run as a specific user you can see the syntax
[03:11] <fistikuff1> tab enter worked thanks
[03:11] <fistikuff1> installing with the restricted extras in the terminal
[03:11] <johnmc> sounds like the X system crashing
[03:12] <web_knows> last try, seriously
[03:12] <kapau> i thought it was the cd at first...but i'm using the cd now and running ubuntu as i'm typing
[03:12] <web_knows> how to manage which services I want to start with the system, through the console?
[03:12] <web_knows> :)
[03:12] <johnmc> can you click on the little arrow and get the msg's instead of the graphic the msg should tell you why its failing
[03:12] <soundray> johnmc: who?
[03:13] <fistikuff1> quit
[03:13] <johnmc> I'm not talking to you soundray rest assured I was answering a direct question
[03:13] <soundray> johnmc: we all appreciate you're trying to help, but this is a very busy channel, and if you don't address your responses properly, you are just adding to the noise.
[03:15] <johnmc> the person who asks the question knows who the answer is directed at soundray but if you insist I'll take my linux somewhere else
[03:17] <tux69> hi everybody! i got a strange problem with my hdd. couldn't find anything in the forums, so here i am now :-)  booting stops with fsck reporting a suberblock error. if i boot with a live cd and run fsck, it doesn't report any error. what should i do now?
[03:18] <soundray> tux69: are you sure you fsck'd the root partition from the live CD?
[03:19] <tux69> soundray: yes. i ran 'fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1'
[03:20] <Rowan187> how do i disable the fschk or w/e on every 35 bootups ?
[03:20] <soundray> Rowan187: man tune2fs
[03:21] <fredl> Hmm... how can this be... the IDE disk I just put in my system became sda, pushing the original sda and sdb to sdb and sdc.... so far so good, I understand that.
[03:22] <fredl> but the grub loader on the current sda should boot from sda1... on sda1 the root FS is /dev/sda1 I think.
[03:22] <fredl> however, what's mounted as root FS now is the old sda1 (which is now called sdb1)
[03:22] <soundray> tux69: try 'sudo fsck.ext3 -f -y /dev/sda1'
[03:23] <fredl> does that make sense? Oh, I guess I may have to tell the BIOS to boot from the IDE disk?
[03:23] <soundray> fredl: that's what I'd try first
[03:24] <soundray> Pelo: abandon all hope...
[03:24] <Frogzoo> web_knows: service startup is controlled by the /etc/rc2.d/ scripts
[03:24] <Pelo> can someone explain why cron keeps creating this zombie process   ?  /usr/sbin/sendmail -i -FCronDaemon -oem jean
[03:24] <fredl> soundray - kinda interesting though.
[03:24] <dgjones> !ask | Pelo
[03:24] <ubotu> Pelo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:24] <Pelo> soundray, you know you guys should realy get someone helpfull in here
[03:24] <Frogzoo> !patience | Pelo
[03:24] <ubotu> Pelo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:25] <cberlo> Hey folks.  Got a CUPS config issue I'm trying to sort out on Ubuntu.  Simply put:  on my Linux server, I want to set up a queue that responds to socket://server:9100 and passes that directly to socket://printer:9100  (no SAMBA, no authentication, etc.)
[03:25] <soundray> Pelo: why? We have you after all...
[03:25] <rod> hi i'd like to file a bug against gnome-bluetooth, but on the project website http://live.gnome.org/GnomeBluetooth  i cant find such link... Any advice?
[03:25] <fredl> Pelo - are you volunteering?
[03:25] <genii> soundray: Is to use next superblock  fsck -b 8193 /dev/disk   ? I can't remember
[03:25] <vlt> Hello. Wich packages do I need to let k3b burn audio cds from mp3 files? I installed libxine-extracodecs and libmad0 but k3b still complains ...
[03:26] <MBR> how do i find out what desktop enviorment is running. i had gnome installed but i did apt-get xubuntu-desktop and it installed. i want to know if its running instead of gnome
[03:26] <soundray> genii: 8192 I think
[03:26] <cberlo> MBR: You would have to either uninstall GNOME or select XFCE at login to get XFCE
[03:26] <cberlo> MBR: My bet is you're running GNOME.
[03:27] <cberlo> MBR:  If you can click the System menu and select "About GNOME" that's what you've got.
[03:27] <MBR> i thought so too. it looks just like gnome did. but it says gdm isn't running when i went to configure the logon window
[03:27] <alek66> Can anyone recommend me a good GNU/open source alternative to Visio viewer?
[03:27] <MBR> yup its gnome
[03:27] <MBR> ty
[03:28] <Pelo> alek66, try in here  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[03:28] <soundray> Pelo: have you checked your MTA spool directories for stuck messages?
[03:28] <Pelo> soundray, I would if I knew how , can you direct me ?
[03:28] <cberlo> alek66:  http://www.osalt.com/visio gives some suggestions, but I don't know about file formats...
[03:28] <soundray> Pelo: have you got postfix?
[03:29] <Pelo> soundray, if it comes with the vanilla install I do , otherwise ...
[03:29] <Pelo> soundray, keep in mind a not much more then a basic home user
[03:29] <Pelo> soundray, installing postfix now
[03:30] <soundray> Pelo: no...
[03:30] <Pelo> soundray, you don'T want me to install postfix ? , errr.... ok when if finishes I'll get rid of it
[03:30] <soundray> Pelo: NO :(
[03:30] <Pelo> soundray, ok, I won't
[03:31] <soundray> Pelo: what I actually wanted you to do is to find out what MTA you are using.
[03:31] <Pelo> soundray, installed, and started,  what do you wanted me to do now
[03:31] <Pelo> soundray, it would help if I knew what a MTA was
[03:31] <SMITHERS> Does anyone use azureus as your torrent client. Can't for the life of me figure out how to make this error in the lower right hand corner go away
[03:31] <bmk789> is there a program for ubuntu that can graph wireless signal strength similarly to netstumbler?
[03:31] <soundray> Pelo: that zombie process is somehow related to your mail transport agent (MTA, e.g. postfix (ubuntu default), exim, sendmail etc.)
[03:32] <Pelo> soundray, nvm I just figred out what mta is
[03:32] <Frogzoo> SMITHERS: edgy?
[03:32] <SMITHERS> Frogzoo: Oh I'm sorry, I didn;t mention my OS. Dapper Drake
[03:32] <Frogzoo> SMITHERS: unfortunately the only fix I know of is upgrade to feisty
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> SMITHERS: i never had any luck with azeurus.
[03:32] <Pelo> soundray, well I didn'T have postfix installed before now and the ilne does talk of sendmail,  should I see if sendmail is installed ?
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> SMITHERS: you could try running Utorrent via Wine, it works well.
[03:33] <Frogzoo> SMITHERS: ..or - install azureus tarball from their site
[03:33] <soundray> Pelo: now, I as a postfix user would cd to /var/spool/postfix, run 'ls -R' and see if there are any strange files indicating a stuck mailqueue
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> SMITHERS: upgrade to a version from the azureus site.
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> why are you using Daper anyways?
[03:33] <soundray> Pelo: maybe you didn't have any MTA, in which case installing postfix may have fixed the problem. Or so we hope.
[03:33] <SMITHERS> IndyGunFreak: I don't want to have to go through wine just to download torrents
[03:34] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel 1 or 2 (how can I check this?). I always have to login and run `init 5` to start all the daemons and the dm. Why could this happen?
[03:34] <cberlo> SMITHERS: qtorrent works pretty well.
[03:34] <Pelo> sound let me check if I have a /var/spool/sendmail,   ,  sendmail isn't insallted btw , that maybe the problem
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> SMITHERS: well, then use either Bittorrent, or Ktorrent
[03:34] <kauer> how do people do those asides, such as "***so-and so needs a break"?
[03:34] <SMITHERS> Frogzoo: Install another version from the site, I believe I did I thought but I'll look at it again.
[03:34] <shadowhywind> does anyone know what the boot option pci=conf1 does?
[03:34] <SMITHERS> cberlo: That's the built in torrent client right
[03:34] <cberlo> kauer: /me :)
[03:34] <Pelo> soundray, I'll install sendmail, that may solve the immeidate problem
[03:34] <cberlo> SMITHERS: No, you have to install it.
[03:34] <SMITHERS> IndyGunFreak: Yeah, guess I will try KTorrent
[03:35] <soundray> Pelo: sendmail is a pain. Beware.
[03:35] <SMITHERS> cberlo: Ok, I'll give it a shot
[03:35] <cberlo> SMITHERS: the default one (on base Ubuntu) is Bittorrent, but it only handles one torrent at a time.
[03:35] <soundray> Pelo: stay with postfix for now, and see if you still get that zombie.
[03:35] <phenom> Hi people, after messing with vmware, I had somehow lost function on my primary cd drive, which made my dvd player ie: my secondary, my primary. :/ How would one go about reconfiguring the drived to recognize my old one?
[03:35] <Pelo> soundray, but the zombie is sending to sendmail ?
[03:35] <soundray> vlt: make sure the upgrade has completed: 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:35] <elcasey> any of you lot know how to get "MSS2" video files working? W32codecs from Medibuntu didn't do it
[03:36] <SMITHERS> cberlo: OK thanks for the help
[03:36] <Pelo> soundray, anyway it is too late, I removed the one and installed the other,  I'll waitfor the next one
[03:36] <kauer> well what do you know :-)
[03:36] <SMITHERS> IndyGunFreak: Thanks for all the assistance
[03:36] <fyrestrtr> elcasey: give mplayer a try (from the console)
[03:36] <SMITHERS> Frogzoo: Thanks for all the help
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> SMITHERS: no prob, good luck
[03:36] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: ok, i hadn't tried it from console. It gave me an error about not being able to initialize -vo from GUI
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> elcasey: -vo xv
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> or xv11 whichever works.
[03:37] <soundray> Pelo: I said it's somehow related to sendmail (the binary), not "sending"
[03:37] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: right...trying now, it's buried very deep (the video file)
[03:37] <soundray> Pelo: that binary, /usr/sbin/sendmail, can be provided by various different packages.
[03:37] <Pelo> soundray, wouldn'T reinstalling sendmail help ?
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> that's a strange extension -- are you sure its video?
[03:37] <Frogzoo> SMITHERS: ok, gl
[03:37] <Pelo> soundray,  I see,
[03:37] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: it's a WMV file
[03:38] <soundray> Pelo: I don't know, I'm just digging in the dark.
[03:38] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: and I can watch all of them without incident in Windoze
[03:38] <Pelo> soundray, been there , done that,  not much fun  but thanks
[03:39] <vlt> soundray: I'll check with "-f install", thanks.
[03:39] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: it works from CLI...can I adjust Mplayer's .desktop entry to run as "mplayer -vo xv"?
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> elcasey: I think it is an option when you right click on the menu. You can also try vlc.
[03:39] <phenom> Anyone know how to make ubuntu recognize a cd-drive, one of which it used to?
[03:39] <Pelo> soundray, I'll guess I'll have to wait for the next occurence,, thanks for the help so far
[03:39] <soundray> Pelo: I hope it was
[03:40] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: I guess I could just write an alias, right?
[03:40] <soundray> Pelo: help, I mean
[03:40] <tux69> soundray: fsck ended - everything seems alright. just a non-contiguous message. what now?
[03:40] <Pelo> soundray, just the fact that you paid attention to me means a lot
[03:40] <pupi120290> hello, how can i change window decoration in compiz?
[03:40] <soundray> tux69: reboot and see if you've fixed it
[03:40] <tux69> ok
[03:40] <soundray> Pelo: old age seems to make you sentimental :)
[03:41] <Pelo> soundray, you know where I'm comming from I think
[03:41] <elcasey> fyrestrtr: ok, I just adjusted the properties on a panel icon. Thanks muchly! :D
[03:41] <soundray> Pelo: Canada, right?
[03:41] <Pelo> soundray, not quite what I meand hold man
[03:41] <Pelo> old
[03:41] <soundray> Pelo: I know what you mean
[03:43] <Kasle> !bcm43xx
[03:43] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[03:43] <tux69> soundray: still the same fsck error when booting
[03:43] <pupi120290> can anyone answer my question?
[03:44] <Pelo> pupi120290, what was your question ?
[03:44] <pupi120290> how to change the window-decoration when i use compiz
[03:44] <Pelo> pupi120290, you'd need to ask in #compiz-fusion
[03:44] <soundray> tux69: hmm
[03:44] <pupi120290> ok ill ask there
[03:45] <soundray> tux69: remind me what the error msg was
[03:45] <Pelo> tux69, I think a non-contiguous msg means that you have some fragmentation, it should correct itself eventualy
[03:45] <pmo> is there a way to upgrade from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[03:45] <soundray> pmo: you have to reinstall. All the binaries are different.
[03:46] <pmo> ah ok :/
[03:46] <pmo> gotta wait then
[03:46] <Pelo> pmo,  not realy, and we don'T recommend 64 generaly,  it has some stuff missing, drivers, flash, stuff like that
[03:46] <pmo> ah ok
[03:46] <pmo> thnx
[03:46] <soundray> Pelo: that message was from an fsck off the live CD. The problem is fsck at boot reporting a superblock error and refusing to continue.
[03:46] <tux69> soundray: ...if the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem..., then the superblock is corrupt, ... try running fsck with an alternate superblock...
[03:47] <Pelo> soundray, ohhhhh, I woudln'T know about that one
[03:48] <soundray> tux69: something you might try is to boot the live CD and create an empty file called "fastboot" in the root directory of the root partition. It should then skip fsck at boot, and will probably report some other error.
[03:48] <tux69> ok
[03:49] <tux69> soundray: i can still get to gnome if i press ctrl-d now...
[03:49] <soundray> pmo: you might download the 64-bit Desktop CD and find out if it makes a difference for you. 64bits is faster only when you run numbercrunching, video encoding and similar applications.
[03:50] <tim167> im trying to make a backup of home folder, but i get 'operation not permitted' when copying some files, i did sudo cp -R .... why cant i copy evrything ?
[03:50] <soundray> tux69: I see... this is weird
[03:50] <iblicf> anybody knows some mirror site ,,i want to download gutsy-T4 ,,but i can't download it from the official "cdimage.ubuntu.com"
[03:51] <St> hello
[03:51] <Pelo> iblicf,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:51] <Pelo> hello St
[03:51] <Pici> iblicf: Thats because Gutsy isnt released yet. Please ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:51] <tux69> soundray: it says in the error message that some kind of an emergency console is started which i could stop wit ctrl-d...
[03:51] <iblicf> Pici, okay , :) sorry
[03:51] <St> I can't believe how good lamp works on this old piece of crap
[03:52] <Pici> iblicf: No need to apologize
[03:52] <Alex> Okay, I feel like quite a newbie asking this, but.. uh.. I've inserted a new network cardinto my computer, it's listed in lspci and lshw, but it's not "up". I've had hardware *just work* for a long time, and I'm not quite sure where to start?
[03:52] <soundray> tux69: yes, that's what you usually get when there is an inconsistency in the root filesystem.
[03:52] <phenom> Does anyone know how to configure ubuntu to recognize cd drives? After messing with vmware, I had lost function of my main cd drive, and my dvd has now been set to primary. How can I get it back? :P
[03:52] <soundray> tux69: can you run e2fsck from that emergency console?
[03:52] <bulmer> Alex: System --> Adminstrations -> Networking
[03:52] <Alex> bulmer: It's not listed there.
[03:52] <St> phenom is it mounted
[03:53] <tim167> i want to do a reinstall but keep the home folder from my old install how do i do that ? thanks
[03:53] <phenom> I only see one cddrive in /dev
[03:53] <bulmer> Alex: what is not listed there?
[03:53] <Alex> bulmer: The additional network card.
[03:53] <khamael> is it possible to save partitions in ubuntu?I accidentally formatted a partition :(
[03:53] <Pelo> tim167, back it up or move it to a seperate partition,  ps you can have your /home on a seperate partiton all the time an work form that
[03:53] <bulmer> Alex: did you load the driver for it?
[03:54] <Alex> bulmer: No. As my original questioned stated, I'm so used to things just working, I wasn't quite sure how to start. :)
[03:54] <phenom> St: how do I check? It won't "mount" anything, doesn't recognize songs even.
[03:54] <bulmer> Alex: plug n play? hehehe
[03:54] <Alex> It's displayed in lspci
[03:54] <bulmer> Alex: which interface?
[03:54] <Pelo> gotta go, later folks
[03:54] <student_modnar> where else might I need to add information to blacklist ehci_hcd from startup on Fiesty?
[03:55] <bulmer> Alex: rather which chips?
[03:55] <Alex> bulmer: 00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet]  (rev 22)
[03:55] <soundray> Alex: 'sudo modprobe tulip' and see if it's listed after that.
[03:55] <student_modnar> I've added a blacklist ehci_hcd to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:55] <eifzon> I just installed ubuntu, but I got a "failed to write to cache" error, cant apt-get install anything. please can someone help me.
[03:56] <tux69> soundray: i guess. should i try what it advises - the alternate superblock stuff?
[03:56] <Alex> soundray: Nada.
[03:56] <bulmer> Alex: see what dmesg recorded..if failed or what
[03:56] <phenom> I see two IDE devices as result from lspci
[03:56] <St> alex can you see it if you do a dmesg
[03:56] <casanova> aaaallllllllllooooooooooooo
[03:56] <soundray> Alex: did the modprobe do anything? dmesg | tail should tell you (don't paste please)
[03:56] <Alex> soundray: It's not mentioned in the dmesg, and lsmod has it as 0
[03:58] <soundray> Alex: do you have a live CD? You could check if the card is recognized with that.
[03:58] <eifzon> How do I resolve this error? http://pastebin.ca/656901
[03:58] <tux69> soundray: or should i try the fastboot thing?
[03:58] <Alex> soundray: I do, but only the Ubuntu one - I was under the impression that it used the same drivers?
[03:59] <tux69> ok, i'm trying fastboot
[03:59] <soundray> tux69: yes, worth a try
[04:00] <soundray> Alex: it does, so if it works from the live CD, you'll know it's a software problem related to your installation. If it doesn't, it could be hardware-related and it might be worth putting it in another PCI slot.
[04:00] <Alex> The hardware is fine, as I've tried them both on separate boxen today. :?
[04:01] <soundray> Alex: (the last "it" refers to the Ethernet card)
[04:01] <tux69> soundray: fastboot works, interesting. what does this mean?
[04:01] <bulmer> Alex: that chip doesnt seem to use tulip...you may have to hunt a driver for that
[04:02] <soundray> Alex: any double bookings in 'cat /proc/interrupts'?
[04:02] <Alex> soundray: Nope.
[04:02] <Alex> bulmer: I shall google.
[04:02] <soundray> bulmer, Alex: tulip has been part of the Linux kernel for over a decade
[04:03] <b4l74z4r> i have show notifications enabled in rhythmbox but i don't get any notifications on track changes
[04:03] <Alex> soundray: That wasn't the issue. It seems the card doesn't use the driver, rather than the driver isn't present for usage. ;)
[04:03] <bulmer> soundray: but that chip may not be using tulip
[04:03] <Alex> Oh. IT's meant to use tulip, according to google?
[04:04] <soundray> bulmer: that's right, although I thought it did
[04:04] <eifzon> How do I resolve this error? http://pastebin.ca/656901 ?
[04:04] <godzirra> Heya folks.  I've got X up and working, but now when I run beryl-manager from the command line while in a terminal in X, my entire laptop freezes.
[04:05] <Alex> Unspeakable "beryl broken" bond's forming. ;)
[04:05] <bulmer> so far when I googled, decchip 21440 doesnt say anything about tulip..
[04:05] <Alex> http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:g0bLXfOQos4J:www.daemon-systems.org/man/tlp.4.html+DECchip+21140&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk <-- seems to suggest google.
[04:05] <godzirra> lmao
[04:05] <Alex> er, s/google/tulip/
[04:06] <godzirra> I'd love my beryl if I could get it working.
[04:06] <soundray> tux69: it means that your root partition looks fine to the live CD fsck, and it boots wonderfully, too... it only appears corrupted to the fsck that's run on boot.
[04:06] <godzirra> It was working when I was using the vesa driver, but not since I switched to the nvidia driver.
[04:06] <bulmer> Alex what i found is it uses FasterNet  driver..
[04:06] <soundray> tux69: try recreating initramfs
[04:07] <zarshark> whois KDan_
[04:07] <tux69> soundray: what about the alternate superblock stuff? should i try to do that in the emergency console?
[04:07] <KDan_> wtf
[04:07] <giant> symlinking a binary into the correct rc#.d will cause it to start when the system does
[04:07] <giant> right?
[04:07] <soundray> tux69: no, it's obviously spurious. Your default superblock is fine.
[04:08] <tux69> soundray: i guess fsck is run with other parameters on boot?
[04:08] <tux69> ok
[04:08] <godzirra> so anyone have any ideas about my weird freezing beryl problem?
[04:08] <soundray> tux69: I don't think so.
[04:09] <saint_mon> why can't i use "su" command?
[04:09] <bulmer> giant is that binary executable?
[04:09] <soundray> saint_mon: ubuntu is designed for sudo, not su
[04:09] <faileas> saint_mon: you can, though its not recommended. sudo su
[04:09] <SlimeyPe1e> saint_mon: the root account is disabled by default. If you must use it, you can do a "sudo su"
[04:09] <giant> bulmer, yes, its just 'beryl-manager'
[04:09] <saint_mon> sudo su? do i still need for password?
[04:09] <soundray> !sudo | saint_mon
[04:09] <ubotu> saint_mon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:09] <faileas> saint_mon: only once
[04:10] <bulmer> giant: give it a try and see if it works
[04:10] <soundray> saint_mon: please don't use sudo su. Use sudo -i if you desperately need a root shell.
[04:10] <saint_mon> what do you recommend me? im a noob here
[04:10] <eifzon> can anyone help me with a error? just installed ubunt.
[04:10] <soundray> saint_mon: the best thing you can do is to read the page that ubotu pointed out.
[04:10] <Usrl> eifzon: probably, what is it?
[04:10] <Falstius> soundray: what is the advantage of sudo -i over sudo su?
[04:11] <giant> eifzon, don't as if you can ask... just ask
[04:11] <eifzon> giant: i have asked 2 times, let me check again
[04:11] <eifzon> How do I resolve this error? http://pastebin.ca/656901 ?
[04:11] <soundray> Falstius: it sets up a sane environment, where $HOME points to /root and other nice provisions are made.
[04:11] <Usrl> eifzon: what are you trying to do that causes this?
[04:11] <eifzon> all that has with packages to do
[04:12] <eifzon> like apt-get install
[04:12] <soundray> eifzon: please pastebin the output of 'sudo ls -lR /usr/share/fonts'
[04:12] <Pici> eifzon: Did you change any permissions lately?
[04:12] <eifzon> Pici: no
[04:12] <eifzon> Pici: just installed ubuntu again
[04:12] <Usrl> eifzon: it sounds like your package system is messed up. I had a debian install once where the package system had all sorts of dependancies and crap screwed up
[04:12] <Usrl> eifzon: did you check the md5 sum of the CD you burnt?
[04:12] <kyncani> eifzon: third link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=fontconfig+%22failed+to+write+cache%22&btnG=Search
[04:12] <eifzon> Usrl: I did order a cd
[04:12] <MBR> i originally installed ubuntu. i did apt-get kubuntu-desktop and kde-core install. that went fine. now i want to remove the ubuntu/gnome DE. whats the package name?
[04:13] <giant> unless you were running something as a non sudo user and that is why you are having permissions issues
[04:13] <St> has anyone had problems installing apache2.2 and php5 on 7.04 ?
[04:13] <saint_mon> why can't i see the nicks mo the chatters here? except if they are talking on the main channel
[04:13] <eifzon> thx kyncani i fixd it
[04:13] <faileas> erm
[04:13] <Usrl> MBR: ubuntu-desktop should work, just a warning though, I've had horrible luck removing it
[04:13] <faileas> cause this isn't the main channel
[04:13] <eifzon> find /usr/share/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d -type d -print0 | xargs --null touch
[04:13] <faileas> this is a channel and you see people on it ;)
[04:13] <giant> saint_mon, your using Xchat and the window is too small on the right hand side, just open it up
[04:13] <faileas> ahh
[04:13] <faileas> i misunderstood lo
[04:13] <faileas> ;p
[04:14] <soundray> MBR: why do you want to remove it? Just leave them in place, no need to provoke problems.
[04:14] <giant> saint_mon, if you look closely, you'll see its a 3 part window, not 2
[04:14] <phenom> Ok, how can i tell if a cd drive is properly mounted? lspci shows 2 IDE devices, but my old primary cd drive is still not detected?
[04:14] <MBR> well i want to free myself some diskspace. and i have no use for it
[04:14] <saint_mon> i can only see the servers on the leftmost side no nicks on the rightmost side
[04:15] <giant> open up the pannel on the right hand side
[04:15] <MBR> i also installed xfce and i really like that over kde/gnome
[04:15] <soundray> MBR: do an 'apt-get autoclean' to recover some diskspace.
[04:15] <MBR> but for now i'm going to tinker with kde
[04:15] <ewook> sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:15] <berent> how do i login to windows from ubuntu
[04:16] <incorrect> i want to bandwidth measure my ftp server, i had found ncftpput to transfer the files, but i can't capture the transfer info
[04:16] <soundray> MBR: then do a 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; ls -srS | tail -n 20'. This will show you the 20 largest packages. 'sudo apt-get --purge remove' those packages that you know you don't need.
[04:17] <tux69> soundray: i tried google, but... could you give me a link on how to recreate initramfs?
[04:17] <St> has anyone had problems installing apache2.2 and php5 on 7.04 ?
[04:18] <soundray> tux69: sorry, I should have said
[04:18] <berent> how do i login to windows from ubuntu
[04:18] <soundray> tux69: sudo update-initramfs -u
[04:18] <soundray> !elaborate | berent
[04:18] <ubotu> berent: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:18] <mayorbuttes> berent: er, wat?
[04:18] <MBR> heh thats funny. the 20 largest packages are almost all kde related
[04:18] <tux69> ok
[04:18] <MBR> is that irony?
[04:18] <mayorbuttes> MBR: No, just obvious ;)
[04:18] <Pici> MBR: no, thats not irony.
[04:18] <berent> i mean i want to login to windows xp from ubuntu feisty
[04:19] <Ramy> how i can recover the Ubuntu to previous settings ?
[04:19] <berent> mayorbuttes soundray i mean i want to login to windows xp from ubuntu feisty
[04:19] <djennewe> berent, remote desktop connection?
[04:19] <soundray> MBR: you want to keep those for now, so do 'ls -srS | grep -v ^k'
[04:19] <mayorbuttes> berent: That doesn't make any sense.
[04:19] <berent> djennewe: have both on same hard disk
[04:19] <mayorbuttes> berent: What exactly are you trying to accomplish
[04:19] <mayorbuttes> berent: Do you just want to access your drives?
[04:19] <eracc_> berent, you want to run a virtual machine then?
[04:20] <berent> eracc_ exactly
[04:20] <giant> best thing to do is setup your windows into a vmware image and boot it with player/server
[04:20] <MBR> berent, do you want to login as in remote desktop or just acces your drives over the network?
[04:20] <giant> otherwise.. you can't realy do it from Ubuntu
[04:20] <berent> MBR: not just access but boot into it
[04:20] <mayorbuttes> berent: Ah, virtual machines
[04:20] <berent> ya
[04:20] <MBR> reboot the system and select winxp over linux
[04:20] <eracc_> berent, that is really beyond the scope of this channel. You might ask in ##bochs. But, the guys that know stuff in there take a long time to reply.
[04:20] <mayorbuttes> !virtualmachine | berent
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualmachine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <Jza|[Ubuntu] > Is it possible to to xfce4 together with Beryl, and if how to install right I tried but installation of new xfce4.4.1 I get errors
[04:21] <MBR> that's about it unless you install vmware and install xp
[04:21] <giant> berent, try #vmware and see if they can help
[04:21] <berent> can i install vmware on ubuntu?
[04:21] <soundray> berent: yes
[04:21] <MBR> yeah
[04:21] <giant> yes
[04:21] <Falstius> soundray: sudo -i is identical to sudo su - except that sudo -i sets SUDO_USER SUDO_UID, SUDO_GID and SUDO_COMMAND.  It also clears stuff like DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY.  They both chdir to /root where as sudo su leaves you in the current directory.  All set $home to /root and read roots .bashrc.  sudo su also doesn't mess with all your other environment variables (which is good or bad depending on what you're doing).
[04:21] <eracc_> berent, you can install it on Linux, so yes. :)
[04:22] <berent> eracc_ : does it require a specific hardware?
[04:22] <MBR> k later guys. thanks for the help
[04:22] <giant> berent, no
[04:22] <eracc_> berent, Nope.
[04:22] <berent> !vmware
[04:22] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:23] <tux69> soundray: recreating initramfs didn't help :(
[04:23] <berent> eracc_ : what exactly it does . give me a button to click to boot into any os whenever i want to
[04:23] <erUSUL> tim167: sorry i was away 'sudo rmmod nvidia' (you have to stop X before to do that) 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' after doing this just 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[04:23] <Arafangion> Found an interesting bug with Gnome :)
[04:24] <Arafangion> (Might already be there).
[04:24] <eracc_> berent, I have never used VMware. I know it exists is all..
[04:24] <Sivik> is there a way to display remotely in a browser multiple websites from a server using hte ip address
[04:24] <Arafangion> If you're using ATI drivers, and have setup your desktops in bigdesktop mode using aticonfig --dtop=vertical (Specifically vertial), and make the bottom panel "auto-hide", it covers over the title bar of any maximized window in the lower desktop.
[04:25] <fogosa-anal> hi all!
[04:25] <bjwebb> hi
[04:25] <soundray> Falstius: thanks for that elaboration. My conclusion is that it's not worth bothering with sudo su, sudo su -, sudo bash etc., because sudo -i does the *sane* thingk
[04:25] <soundray> *thing
[04:25] <palintheus> tux69: what issue are you having?
[04:25] <Arafangion> soundray: No it doesn't.
[04:25] <Falstius> soundray: my conclusion is that it isn't worthwhile telling people to use one over the other and sudo su is the best for most things :)
[04:26] <Arafangion> soundray: sudo su - emulates a *login* session as root, effectively.
[04:26] <bjwebb> how can i allow something to listen on a port?
[04:26] <andre_> !de
[04:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:26] <Arafangion> soundray: So you have the correct environment setup for root, helping you to not clober your user application settings with the wrong permissions.
[04:26] <soundray> Arafangion, Falstius: guys, stop teaching me, please. I'm not making a mistake by recommending sudo -i over the alternatives.
[04:26] <Jza|[Ubuntu] > Can someone help me pls
[04:26] <tux69> palintheus: on boot fsck is complaining about bad superblock, when run from a live cd, it doesn't report any error.
[04:27] <Pici> !effects | Jza|[Ubuntu] 
[04:27] <ubotu> Jza|[Ubuntu] : For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[04:27] <bjwebb> Jza|[Ubuntu] : with what?
[04:27] <Jza|[Ubuntu] > Is it possible to to xfce4 together with Beryl, and if how to install right I tried but installation of new xfce4.4.1 I get errors
[04:27] <Arafangion> soundray: The point was that it does quite a different thing, and it's something that we've had to fix quite often with other people.
[04:27] <ConstyXIV> can you burn cd images by 'cat ~/foobar.iso > /dev/cdrom'?
[04:27] <soundray> Arafangion: I said *sane*, not same
[04:27] <Jza|[Ubuntu] > thnx Pici
[04:27] <Arafangion> soundray: I prefer not using such thigns at all, and doing sudo <command>, every time, as you shouldn't need sudo all that much.
[04:27] <gordonjcp> ConstyXIV: no
[04:27] <Arafangion> soundray: I assumed that were a typo, because "sane" doesn't make sense, gramatically speaking :)
[04:27] <ConstyXIV> tux69: sounds like a corrupt HD
[04:28] <bjwebb> hi, how do i open ports?
[04:28] <gordonjcp> Arafangion: depends what you're doing
[04:28] <soundray> Arafangion: I completely agree with you. I guess you didn't follow the conversation from the beginning.
[04:28] <Terrasque> Arafangion: sudo man page : "-i  The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as."
[04:28] <atrocity> anybody know how to empy the trash as root?
[04:28] <soundray> Arafangion: it does, if you consider the jargon use of sane.
[04:28] <atrocity> i have items in it i can't delete as a normal user
[04:28] <palintheus> tux69: ah, you mentioned initramfs and I assumed it was a different issue.
[04:28] <gordonjcp> Arafangion: furthermore some things don't really work at all with "sudo <command>" but need to be run from a root shell
[04:28] <ConstyXIV> odd, you can do that in reverse ('cat /dev/cdrom > ~/foobar.iso')
[04:28] <Quvx> hey guys, this guy named quux keeps posting really threatening messages to me and my family... what should i do?
[04:28] <moyer> is there a way to see a status of nmap while its running in command line ?
[04:28] <Quvx> hey guys, this guy named quux keeps posting really threatening messages to me and my family... what should i do?
[04:28] <soundray> Arafangion: by the way, I never make typhos.
[04:28] <soundray> :)
[04:28] <gordonjcp> !repeat ! Quvx
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat ! quvx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <Quvx> hey guys, this guy named quux keeps posting really threatening messages to me and my family... what should i do?
[04:29] <tux69> ConstyXIV: why should it be corrupt when fsck says everything is ok?
[04:29] <eracc> Quvx, move?
[04:29] <gordonjcp> Quvx: stop repeating yourself or we'll kill you
[04:29] <moyer> Quvx :call the cops?
[04:29] <ConstyXIV> think weve got a bot
[04:29] <moyer> gordonjcp
[04:29] <Falstius> Arafangion: sudo -i and sudo su - do very similar things.  I couldn't find a siginificant difference except that -i leaves the sudo env variables set (which is a completely useless security feature in most ways)
[04:29] <moyer> lol
[04:29] <bjwebb> can someone help me with ports?
[04:29] <gordonjcp> !ask | bjwebb
[04:29] <ubotu> bjwebb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:30] <petr4> hello. Can you recommend software for vector drawing capable exporting to *.EPS? Should be useable.
[04:30] <Arafangion> gordonjcp: Most of those programs don't need to be run as root, and if you need the correct environment, then you need to make an actual root 'login' session, anyway.
[04:30] <gordonjcp> Arafangion: exactly
[04:30] <bjwebb> gordonjcp: ive already asked though and not had reply
[04:30] <erUSUL> petr4: xfig (ancient) inkscape, OO.org Draw ??
[04:30] <tux69> soundray: recreating initramfs didn't help. any other idea?
[04:30] <Intsarts> I have problems with Marvell Yukon 88E8056 on Gigabyte 965P-S3 (rev 3.3) motherboard, it stays a little time on internet then the connection stalls/freezes/dies
[04:30] <eracc> bjwebb, you want to know how to open ports, correct?
[04:31] <bjwebb> i want to know how to open port 6667, or if it should open automagically
[04:31] <gordonjcp> Arafangion: however there are subtle differences between "sudo -i", "sudo [ba|k|c] sh" and "sudo su"
[04:31] <soundray> tux69: sorry, I've run out
[04:31] <genii> tux69: When fsck complains of bad superblock but the drive data still is fine it means the part of drive with housekeeping info on it is corrupt but not neccesarily the actual info on the hd. There are backups of the housekeeping info (superblocks) which you can specify to use
[04:31] <bjwebb> eracc: yup
[04:31] <VincentMX> hi
[04:31] <petr4> erUSUL thanks for a hint, I'll try
[04:31] <gordonjcp> bjwebb: are you running an IRC server?
[04:31] <Arafangion> gordonjcp: Man, I'm picking arguments over insignificant things, when teh guy was talking about something totelly different. I should get to bed :)
[04:31] <eracc> bjwebb, you are running your own IRC server?
[04:31] <gordonjcp> Arafangion: heh
[04:31] <bjwebb> eracc: i want to
[04:31] <soundray> genii: the thing is, the superblocks are fine, too (tux69)
[04:31] <Arafangion> gordonjcp: And I was advocating "sudo su -", not "sudo su".
[04:31] <bjwebb> InspIRCd
[04:31] <gordonjcp> Arafangion: that's different again
[04:31] <MasterShrek> bjwebb, are you behind a router?
[04:31] <Arafangion> gordonjcp: Quite :)
[04:31] <gordonjcp> bjwebb: you'd need to consult the docs for your router
[04:31] <bjwebb> thing is i can't even get to it on 127.0.0.1
[04:32] <bjwebb> no router
[04:32] <eracc> bjwebb, then you need to poke a hole in your firewall (admin stuff) and/or forward ports from your router (beyond the scope of #ubuntu).
[04:32] <erUSUL> petr4: no problem... also for diagrams (ala visio) you have Dia in gnome (i'm sure kde has it's own couple of apps for drawing)
[04:32] <Mr-Snick> DSL Connection? BJwebb?
[04:32] <bjwebb> Mr-Snick: yes
[04:32] <VincentMX> i wanted to try ubuntu (gnome), so i installed ubuntu-desktop, but now i dont have any battery-icon-thingy in the gnome panel
[04:32] <soundray> genii: verified by running fsck from a live CD environment.
[04:32] <atrocity> nm, i got it, just did sudo bash
[04:32] <bjwebb> but i can't get it on localhost either
[04:32] <Mr-Snick> bjwebb: then ask your ISP if you are behind a NAT
[04:32] <Arafangion> eracc: He could also just crack his own firewall ;)
[04:32] <Mr-Snick> some DSL connections cant host certain things
[04:32] <VincentMX> oh nm
[04:32] <MasterShrek> VincentMX, right click and clikc "Add to panel"
[04:32] <Intsarts> I have problems with Marvell Yukon 88E8056 on Gigabyte 965P-S3 (rev 3.3) motherboard, it stays a little time on internet then the connection stalls/freezes/dies
[04:32] <Arafangion> eracc: Outside the scope of this /network/, though ;)
[04:33] <genii> soundray: Can also be then fsck needs to be run in single user mode
[04:33] <bjwebb> Mr-Snick: shouldn't i still have it on localhost?
[04:33] <VincentMX> MasterShrek, why isnt this in ubuntu by default?
[04:33] <petr4> erUSUL: i tried Dia, but i find it too clumsy, at least for UML diagrams
[04:33] <eracc> bjwebb, if you can't get to it from your localhost then you need to see if it is running first.
[04:33] <ConstyXIV> VincentMX: are you plugged in right now?
[04:33] <VincentMX> yes
[04:33] <Mr-Snick> Yes you shud bjwebb... just make sure ya have everything configured right in the server
[04:33] <ConstyXIV> VincentMX: unplug it
[04:33] <Arafangion> petr4: There are no good opensource uml diagramming tools, unfortunately :(
[04:33] <evri2> which package have the asoundlib.h guys?
[04:33] <Mr-Snick> unfortanitly i'll brb
[04:33] <genii> soundray: Sometimes also mis-set internal clock always means it will run fsck because it will try to look at fs clean or no before ntp runs etc
[04:33] <MasterShrek> VincentMX, it was on the panel by default for me
[04:34] <bjwebb> eracc: its running
[04:34] <evri2> nvm
[04:34] <Falstius> bjwebb: try nmap localhost
[04:34] <soundray> genii: I don't think so. tux69 was able to do a full e2fsck from the live CD environment.
[04:34] <giant> anyone know a good program for doing floor plans?
[04:34] <VincentMX> ConstyXIV, ah yes it works
[04:34] <VincentMX> thats a nice idea
[04:34] <bjwebb> eracc: so its proably a problem with the prog?
[04:34] <Arafangion> petr4: The best are ArgoUML, Dia, and inkscape (Which is not a uml tool, but instead is a vector drawing program), me, I don't need a professional tool, so I just use dot (ie, graphviz)
[04:34] <Intsarts> :( i hate this channel
[04:34] <benkong2> anyone have bcm43xx driver working on an HP dv2415 laptop?
[04:34] <eracc> bjwebb, does 'netstat -l' show anything listening on 6667?
[04:34] <soundray> genii: okay, we'll check the clock setting.
[04:34] <Pici> evri2: libasound2-dev.  You can search on packages.ubuntu.com next time :)
[04:34] <VincentMX> Intsarts, why?
[04:34] <MasterShrek> Intsarts, why?
[04:34] <petr4> Arafangion: Really? I explored the tools 2 years ago and I hoped it improved the improved
[04:34] <MasterShrek> =P
[04:34] <soundray> tux69: can you enter the BIOS setup and check if the system clock is set correctly?
[04:34] <Intsarts> now you notice
[04:35] <Intsarts> i wrote my problem twice here
[04:35] <tux69> soundray: ok, i'll check
[04:35] <ConstyXIV> VincentMX: it's set up by default to not show the icon if you're plugged in and fully charged.  you can change that though
[04:35] <giant> I'm trying to build a house, and I'm looking for a good blueprint/floor plan building program
[04:35] <Arafangion> petr4: Opensource hackers don't need such things, they're perfectly happy with things such as pen and paper, and a scanner, or just dot, or even Dia.
[04:35] <bjwebb> unles ipp is 6667, no
[04:35] <SlimeyPe1e> !attitude | Intsarts
[04:35] <ubotu> Intsarts: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:35] <petr4> Arafangion, dot is not viasual, so it does not qualify for me
[04:35] <Ramy> i my windows on Metacity make no response especially System monitor and Rhythm box and Nautilus, do u have any idea how i can recover that or return to default settings for  Metacity and Gnome ?
[04:35] <VincentMX> Intsarts, maybe nobody knows the solution
[04:36] <VincentMX> whats your question, Intsarts ?
[04:36] <MasterShrek> Intsarts, did you search the forums?
[04:36] <Arafangion> petr4: Ahh, but I can script it, which is why I use it :)
[04:36] <soundray> tux69: I hope you can fix it. I'm logging off now.
[04:36] <eracc> bjwebb, netstat -l --numeric-ports
[04:36] <Intsarts> i searched but answers came odd
[04:36] <Arafangion> petr4: Personally, for the type you're probably doing, I'd use a pencil ;)  Artistically, I'd probably consider inkscape ;(
[04:36] <Intsarts> I have problems with Marvell Yukon 88E8056 on Gigabyte 965P-S3 (rev 3.3) motherboard, it stays a little time on internet then the connection stalls/freezes/dies
[04:36] <nojoints> How do I install the original gtk packages?
[04:36] <linuxmonster> hello
[04:36] <tux69> soundray: thanks for the help so far, i appreciate it!
[04:36] <Arafangion> petr4: But the best in your mind is probably ArgoUML.
[04:36] <bjwebb> eracc: nothing listening
[04:37] <Arafangion> petr4: Though, it requires Java.
[04:37] <petr4> Arafangion because nobody forces them to document their code. most time when I think of contrubuting to some project I am stopped by not being able to orinet in the code
[04:37] <eracc> bjwebb, then you probably need to edit the config file for your IRC server.
[04:37] <bjwebb> eracc: yup
[04:37] <VincentMX> Intsarts, checked your router?
[04:37] <bjwebb> well thanks for the help
[04:37] <bjwebb> bye
[04:37] <Phenom> Ok people, this drive is killing me, just fiddled with vmware, and now ubuntu doesnt recognize my cdr. lspci shows 2 IDE devices but /dev shows one cdrom/scd0. Any ideas on how to reinstall/fix the cdr issue?
[04:38] <Intsarts> VincentMX, what do you mean under checking?
[04:38] <VincentMX> Intsarts, does it work properly?
[04:38] <Arafangion> petr4: UML diagrams != code documentation.
[04:38] <MasterShrek> Phenom, do you have a /dev/hdc?
[04:38] <missingxtension> can someone help me, i ran a ln -s gmake /usr/bin/make and make cant be found now
[04:38] <Arafangion> petr4: UML diagrams are a *design and planning* tool.
[04:39] <linuxmonster> i recently installed ubuntu on a usb external drive and gnome won't let me boot the computer with out the drive connected. can i change this
[04:39] <palintheus> missingxtension: have you installed build-essentials?
[04:39] <eracc> For anyone following the bjwebb conversation, 'ipp' is Internet Printing Protocol on port 631 (CUPS).
[04:39] <demonspork> How do I restart the sound server In feisty?
[04:39] <VincentMX> or is it your ISP (the company who gives you access to the internet)?
[04:39] <Phenom> MasterShrek: no.
[04:39] <missingxtension> yes i have
[04:39] <Intsarts> VincentMX, it works so much properly that i can watch the TV stream what comes trough it and use USB connection what is on the other computer
[04:39] <petr4> Arafangion: design and plan is also a documentation
[04:39] <VincentMX> ok
[04:39] <[_Ulver_] > hi all! May you help me advicing some kind of offline dictionary (like Babylon from Windows) and a good IRC client (btw I'm using X-chat Gnome and I still not friendly with it) ;/] 
[04:39] <petr4> Arafangion: sure it is most useful for desing and planning
[04:39] <Pingviller> what's the best ftp-server for feisty?
[04:39] <missingxtension> i cretaed a bad symlink but i cant find the config file to delete the link
[04:40] <VincentMX> Intsarts, checked your cable is in properly?
[04:40] <Arafangion> petr4: You're after ArgoUML.  I always do the code, then produce diagrams from that to please the lecturer, but different minds think differently.
[04:40] <petr4> Arafangion but when code is writen and newcomer needs to find things, he can look to design documents
[04:40] <Intsarts> VincentMX, yes, cable works, i tried 4-5 cables and they worked all great
[04:40] <VincentMX> and if its wifi, then is somebody jamming your signal? (i do that a lot on neighbours i dont like)
[04:41] <Falstius> missingxtension: in the command line, rm -i /path/to/linkname
[04:41] <Arafangion> petr4: I never had trouble jumping into the code and exploring.  If the directories are arranged logiaclly and there are some design documents, it's quite decent.
[04:41] <missingxtension> palintheous: in reallity im building postgresql 8.2 but i cant find make
[04:41] <Arafangion> petr4: If every bit of code is just dumped into a single directory, though, I have trouble.
[04:41] <Intsarts> VincentMX, i have wifi turned off
[04:41] <VincentMX> ok
[04:41] <petr4> Arafangion: basicly if the diagrams are in sync with code it does not matter if they were at the start. it is documatntation
[04:41] <Arafangion> petr4: The diagrams are never in sync with het code.
[04:42] <Arafangion> petr4: It's a fact of life.
[04:42] <giant> missingxtension, you can't find it as you don't have it installed?
[04:42] <Arafangion> petr4: (Unless you use EXPENSIVE "round trip engineering")
[04:42] <eracc> [_Ulver_] , I use dict from the command line. But there are front ends for it both in Gnome and KDE.
[04:42] <Arafangion> petr4: Such as the likes of IBM's Rational Rose.
[04:42] <giant> missingxtension, try "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:42] <darklightingx> hello
[04:42] <ghosTM55> hi there!
[04:42] <missingxtension> giant: its there in usr/bin but i made a bad symlink
[04:42] <giant> I think that has make in it
[04:42] <Arafangion> petr4: Though, I think ArgoUML can do that from the code, but only for Java.  It doesn't do round-trip for other languages.
[04:43] <[_Ulver_] > eracc: may you give some example?
[04:43] <giant> missingxtension, delete your bad sim link
[04:43] <darklightingx> 
[04:43] <ghosTM55> 
[04:43] <virtuelv> anyone know how to edit the "Places" menu?
[04:43] <petr4> Arafangion: it is enough if there is a will or at least apreciation to update the docs
[04:43] <darklightingx> 
[04:43] <virtuelv> after upgrading, I have "Desktop", "Documents" twice
[04:43] <darklightingx> UTF8
[04:43] <missingxtension> i dont know where it is and i dont wanna delete make
[04:43] <MasterShrek> virtuelv, its in the menu editor
[04:44] <ghosTM55> 
[04:44] <Arafangion> petr4: I disagree, each too his own.
[04:44] <petr4> Arafangion: ArgoUML  - yes i think jav a only
[04:44] <darklightingx> 
[04:44] <missingxtension> the config file te the simlinx
[04:44] <ghosTM55> o
[04:44] <VincentMX> Intsarts, does just internet (www.exaple.org) not work, or also other things? such as gnutella (?), bittorrent (?), irc(6667), ftp(21)
[04:44] <virtuelv> MasterShrek: it isn't
[04:44] <Arafangion> petr4: Actually it does other languages as well, including C++ and Python.
[04:44] <Arafangion> petr4: (Well, it definetly does C++, I think it does Python...)
[04:44] <ghosTM55> IRC
[04:44] <eracc> [_Ulver_] , you have to install the dict client, some of the dictionaries and the dictd server. I do not know which packages those are as I am not on Ununtu at the moment.
[04:44] <darklightingx> 
[04:44] <faileas> !englush darklightingx ghosTM55
[04:44] <giant> sorry missingxtension  you lost me
[04:44] <X-Hacker> yo
[04:44] <Arafangion> petr4: There's even commercial plugins now.
[04:44] <faileas> !english darklightingx ghosTM55
[04:44] <darklightingx> 
[04:44] <ghosTM55> well well , ok
[04:44] <virtuelv> MasterShrek: only the applications and system menu is there
[04:44] <eracc> *Ubuntu
[04:44] <Intsarts> VincentMX, the whole connection
[04:45] <ghosTM55> use english dark
[04:45] <petr4> Arafangion: well I can not find anything without decent cros indexer (at least like doxygen)
[04:45] <darklightingx> 
[04:45] <VincentMX> Intsarts, System>Management>Network
[04:45] <giant> he might not speak english
[04:45] <[_Ulver_] > eracc: do you know any OCR dictionare initiative like Babylon from windows to linux?
[04:45] <Arafangion> petr4: I just find it far more logical to arrange code in neat, preferably small, modules.
[04:45] <faileas> darklightingx: english please?
[04:45] <Intsarts> VincentMX, what on there?
[04:45] <petr4> Arafangion: right
[04:45] <X-Hacker> private
[04:45] <Arafangion> petr4: One module to a directory. :)
[04:45] <[_Ulver_] > I would like to support really
[04:45] <Phenom> MasterShrek: any ideas?
[04:45] <ghosTM55> ah ha ,dark , english pls
[04:45] <darklightingx> faileas, 
[04:45] <eracc> [_Ulver_] , nope. I told you what I do know about. :)
[04:45] <faileas> giant: well, there's language channels, and ghosTM55 was talking to darklightingx
[04:45] <ghosTM55> ..........
[04:46] <Arafangion> petr4: Yeah, doxygen is a documentation tool :)
[04:46] <VincentMX> select wired connection & click properties
[04:46] <ghosTM55> he said he is poor at english , forgive him
[04:46] <neverblue> morning
[04:46] <petr4> Arafangion: right, but it is often not the case. and even if it is, it is not enough
[04:46] <ghosTM55> morning? it's midnight here^_^
[04:46] <VincentMX> no w8
[04:46] <MasterShrek> sorry no Phenom
[04:46] <faileas> ghosTM55: i'm getting a bunch of boxes on my screen, might i suggest moving to a language approptiate channel? ;)
[04:46] <Intsarts> VincentMX, i have to go to ubuntu then
[04:46] <Arafangion> petr4: If you have jabber, I'd love your contact details, (msn? Yahoo?), but I must get to bed now. :(  It's 00:41
[04:46] <Phenom> Thanks
[04:46] <ghosTM55> haha
[04:46] <jonah> soundray, no it's not a music player, just a freecom usb hard drive
[04:46] <MattJ> Arafangion: :O
[04:46] <eracc> faileas, you should use unicode. :)
[04:47] <VincentMX> have to go to ubuntu?
[04:47] <[_Ulver_] > eracc: ok, thanks a lot. I'll try it. Btw, sorry by my ridiculous english domain :P
[04:47] <VincentMX> its like you habe only one pc
[04:47] <VincentMX> have
[04:47] <faileas> eracc: maybe but hardly anyone IRCs in tamil ;)
[04:47] <ghosTM55> don't you use utf-8?
[04:47] <eracc> faileas, heh. :)
[04:47] <Arafangion> petr4: I'm a uni student, very much of a "hacker", not a "project manager" mindset, really, but I am doing engineering and will be managing projects, so would appreciate discussion :)
[04:47] <Intsarts> VincentMX, on my room yes, but on other room there is an older computer too, but i dont have permission to use that.
[04:47] <faileas> ghosTM55: x-chat2 for windows dosen't have a build with unicode, and thats what i use
[04:48] <VincentMX> Intsarts, ok
[04:48] <ghosTM55> ah ! i see
[04:48] <ghosTM55> i don't use Windows :-)
[04:48] <eracc> faileas, I'm gagging here. :p
[04:48] <faileas>  blah
[04:48] <faileas> i dual boot
[04:48] <ghosTM55> faileas where do you come from?
[04:48] <Intsarts> VincentMX, what should i do now?
[04:48] <faileas> ghosTM55: singapore
[04:48] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, neither do i
[04:49] <eracc> .sg == Singapore
[04:49] <ghosTM55> singapore , do you speak chinese?
[04:49] <faileas> no
[04:49] <faileas> i speak tamil ;)
[04:49] <eracc> You mean tamil and english. ;)
[04:49] <ghosTM55> ah , i think most of singaporer can speak chinese
[04:49] <petr4> Arafangion: I am leaving school. I do  comercial project, but not managing almost anything
[04:49] <Vino|> ghosTM55, chinese don't speak chinese, they speak mandarin or cantonese
[04:49] <ghosTM55> I come from Shanghai ,China
[04:49] <faileas> ;)
[04:50] <faileas> generally chinese= mandrin
[04:50] <ghosTM55> haha , you do know about us
[04:50] <Vino|> oh, then I guess you would know so nm
[04:50] <VincentMX> im from the netherlands, most people speak turkish here :P
[04:50] <faileas> lol
[04:50] <faileas> i thought you speak neitherlandian?
[04:50] <Toma-> Anyone tried compiling mplayer using build-dep? im getting some dependency issues. weird.
[04:50] <ghosTM55> netherlands is nice
[04:50] <godzirra> Sigh.  My laptop is back to booting to a blank screen.  Ubuntu's rapidly becoming more trouble than its worth. :/
[04:50] <demonspork> How do I restart ALSA?
[04:50] <faileas> i live in UK most of the time ;p
[04:50] <VincentMX> faileas, dutch, but a lot of turks live here
[04:51] <Vino|> VincentMX, I thought they speak danish in the netherlands
[04:51] <godzirra> All I did was install new alsa drivers, and now my laptop boots to a blank screen.  Is there a way to get it to boot in text mode so I can see whqats going on?
[04:51] <faileas> eracc: you speak american ;)
[04:51] <ghosTM55> wow , that's cool faileas
[04:51] <eracc> Yep ;)
[04:51] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: When yo boot up, chose revocery console
[04:51] <mayorbuttes> recovery, too
[04:51] <Terrasque> you know, orcs and elves and such things. and rings
[04:51] <VincentMX> ???
[04:51] <alesan> hi
[04:51] <ghosTM55> so , which distribution do you use?
[04:51] <ghosTM55> hi alesan
[04:51] <faileas> Terrasque: don't forget oliphants ;)
[04:52] <alesan> is it possible for GDM to reread the config file without restart?
[04:52] <Terrasque> ye true
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Neekerbreekers! :)
[04:52] <VincentMX> why does my modem not work in kde, but it does in gnome?
[04:52] <alesan> and loose the current session?
[04:52] <tux69> genii: the clock was set to utc. (the fsck prob)
[04:52] <godzirra> mayorbuttes: I didnt even know there's a recovery console from grub.
[04:52] <godzirra> trying that now.
[04:52] <VincentMX> i thought drivers were a kernel thing?
[04:52] <VincentMX> xept video
[04:52] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: There should be.. hm. Try just when it boots the the blank screen hitting ctrl+alt+1
[04:52] <godzirra> There is
[04:52] <gesker> anyone having trouble installing mount 2.13 on gutsy
[04:52] <godzirra> I just don't pay much attention apparently.
[04:53] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: Hehehe
[04:53] <KurtKraut> gesker, try asking on #ubuntu+1
[04:53] <genii> tux69: Good, working now?
[04:53] <VincentMX> is there any way i can use my modem to make phonecalls?
[04:53] <hvoironnais> s
[04:53] <carlo> Is there a way to stop system messages appearing in terminals? maybe redirect the output to a file or to /dev/null?
[04:53] <gesker> Will do, thanks
[04:53] <godzirra> ok, it booted up fine, showing an errror in my modprobe.d/alsa-base file.
[04:53] <ghosTM55> how do you think of ubuntu and fedora?
[04:53] <godzirra> which I dont trhink should keep my system from starting up.  rebooting now to  try it again after fixing it.
[04:53] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: Did you happen to remove your old version of alsa first?
[04:54] <Vino|> carlo, you mean using the > ?
[04:54] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, go for ubuntu, fedora uses rpm
[04:54] <godzirra> No, it didnt tell me to in the instructions I was reading for getting my laptop sound workking...
[04:54] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: I see. Well sometimes, you get conflicts with stuff being installed twice.
[04:54] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, rpm is known for dependency hells
[04:54] <ghosTM55> i prefer fedora
[04:54] <univremonster> is anyone here who has successfully installed VMware on Fiesty?
[04:54] <tux69> genii: no (thought this would be obvious)
[04:54] <ghosTM55> why? yum is fine
[04:54] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: Your problem is new to me, so it's only a guess
[04:55] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: But try modprobbing alsa
[04:55] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: and see if multiple instances come up
[04:55] <helpme> hello
[04:55] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, try installing a deb package from the internet in ubuntu
[04:55] <godzirra> ij,
[04:55] <demonspork> How do I restart ALSA?
[04:55] <ghosTM55> ubuntu do have a lot of money ! i received the cds from ubuntu recently
[04:55] <VincentMX> or an rpm from the internet in fedora
[04:55] <godzirra> Ok, it booted up to the blank screen again.
[04:55] <helpme> i mounted a 2nd harddrive using diskmounter, it has mounted successfully, however only Root can change the read/write accessibility in Permissions. How do i fix this?
[04:55] <ghosTM55> ah , i know about deb
[04:55] <godzirra> And ctrl+alt+F1 doesn't change it.
[04:55] <faileas> ghosTM55: yeah, the CD service is awesome :)
[04:56] <ghosTM55> haha
[04:56] <Arafangion> petr4: Doesn't matter :)
[04:56] <PrMoriarty> hello do you know a good/the best/the more known soft for burn an iso?
[04:56] <derenrich> Anyone know how hard it is to get ubuntu onto a tablet? I've heard bad things...
[04:56] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: hm. boot to the recovery console again
[04:56] <PrMoriarty> i want to use my cd writter
[04:56] <godzirra> mayorbuttes: the system seems to work fine.  When I hit the powert button once, it shuts the system down correctly.
[04:56] <genii> tux69: I am not watching scroll in here much :) Only resonding atm to directed msgs
[04:56] <univremonster> PrMoriarty:  I use K3B
[04:56] <godzirra> Just no video.
[04:56] <Alloos1> Quick question, I have a home network, use samba, I can see my ubuntu machine in the xp, and can reach the shared folders, but cant see the xp machine in the ubuntu, any idea?
[04:56] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: odd.
[04:56] <VincentMX> i thought i had an idea, but its probably stupid
[04:56] <PrMoriarty> univremonster: himm i heard it s a very big install lol but i will try
[04:56] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: I would say first, though to modprob alsa
[04:56] <godzirra> Booting into recovery again.
[04:56] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: and see what you geett
[04:56] <VincentMX> and it would make ubuntu too much like fedora
[04:57] <univremonster> PrMoriarty: are you burning data or ISOs and music and such
[04:57] <dvlsleep> how can i mount a partition of ubuntu on macosx?
[04:57] <ghosTM55> ubuntu is different from fedora a lot
[04:57] <tanath> every time i drag something in firefox, even accidentally, X crashes. wtf?
[04:57] <dvlsleep> any1 can help me please?
[04:57] <PrMoriarty> it s for ISO particulary
[04:57] <PrMoriarty> univremonster: it s for ISO of OS particylary
[04:57] <helpme> i mounted a 2nd harddrive using diskmounter, it has mounted successfully, however only Root can change the read/write accessibility in Permissions. How do i fix this?
[04:57] <thirst> what is the best way to add my ubuntu-dvd-iso to my apt-sources ?
[04:57] <univremonster> PrMoriarty:  then yes, you probably want K3b.  I have heard that it's possible to run Nero in Linux as well if you're used to the windows environment, but I haven't done it myself
[04:58] <ghosTM55> faileas & VincentMX do you have MSN?
[04:58] <mayorbuttes> helpme: That's in place for a reason. just do 'sudo' before your commands
[04:58] <godzirra> mayorbuttes: FATAL: Module alsa not found.
[04:58] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, yes
[04:58] <dvlsleep> how can i mount a partition of ubuntu on macosx via firewire? any1 can help me :~
[04:58] <faileas> ghosTM55: i do, but i only give it to people i know ;)
[04:58] <ghosTM55> ok , tell me , i'm online
[04:58] <helpme> mayorbuttes, : i tried that but it still wont work
[04:58] <mayorbuttes> godzirra: Hm. well you obviously didn't do something right :P
[04:58] <helpme> i tried sudo su
[04:58] <ghosTM55> that's ok faileas
[04:58] <carlo> Vino|, no, I just dont want system messages like hardware errors to show on terminals. is there any way to do it?
[04:58] <Arafangion> Well, I'm off to bed.
[04:58] <godzirra> Obviously, but that shouldnt stop my X from working I wouldnt think.
[04:58] <Vino|> oh.
[04:58] <godzirra> crap.. meeting.
[04:59] <godzirra> be back shortly.
[04:59] <carlo> :(
[04:59] <Alloos1> another question: my xp machine is connected to the net using the ubuntu machine, internal DNS and using guidedog, the xp keep losing connection to the net, any one ?
[04:59] <univremonster> can anyone help me to get VMware running on Fiesty?
[04:59] <Vino|> i've always wondered that myself
[04:59] <ghosTM55> i just wanna be your friend ,talk about the linux
[04:59] <mayorbuttes> helpme: Well, what does it say when you try to do "sudo" before your permisison changes
[04:59] <univremonster> actually, scratch that.  Can anyone help me get Autocad running on Fiesty so I don't have to dualboot?
[04:59] <abasinisvacant> question:   how do i get rid of pop ups on internet explorer?   reinstall?
[04:59] <tidus> univremonster: wine maybe?
[04:59] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, read my pm
[04:59] <tanath> abasinisvacant, use firefox :P
[04:59] <tidus> univremonster: that's how i play WoW... wine on linux
[04:59] <Alloos1> another problem,my dvd drive realise some dvds and does not realize others, the problem is n ot playing them the problem is seeing the content
[04:59] <Arafangion> univremonster: Maybe wine, or vmware.  Quite possibly even get a new machine to run it on.
[05:00] <ghosTM55> pm?
[05:00] <abasinisvacant> tanath,  yes i do use firefox,  but sometimes i need to use explorer for java problems
[05:00] <demonspork> can someone give me the command to restart ALSA
[05:00] <ghosTM55> i didn't receive it
[05:00] <qos> hey guys. does somebody know how to get the WINDOW-id of a process via bash?
[05:00] <helpme> mayorbuttes, : im asked for my password and log-in as root, however the Permission menu is still inaccessible
[05:00] <Arafangion> univremonster: Over here, autocad is so expensive you might as well get another machine to run it. :(
[05:00] <tanath> abasinisvacant, try opera then
[05:00] <univremonster> arafangion:  I have been trying to get VMware going, as per a forum post, but it seems like it's not supported in Fiesty
[05:00] <Alloos1> I know that no one will answer, but I thought i I would give it a shot.
[05:00] <helpme> mayorbuttes, : regardless whether im a normal user or root
[05:00] <VincentMX> idea: rename all kubuntu xubutu edubuntu and stuff to Ubuntu KDE Edition, XFCE Edition, Educational edition and such, and make one (netinstall or dvd) cd, wich can install them all
[05:00] <Grandpappi> i could use some help with the madwifi-ng drivers.  i've uninstalled the restricted package with the older driver, downloaded and patched with the new, but i still can't get in monitor mode.  how can i tell if the patch as successful?
[05:00] <univremonster> arafangion; this is what Nicotine is good for.....
[05:00] <abasinisvacant> tanath, i need explorer to use different langu;age font type
[05:00] <Arafangion> univremonster: I've heard of $8000, but you can get a new machine for $1500.
[05:00] <MasterShrek> qos, /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[05:01] <Arafangion> univremonster: Yeah, wasting money AND health ;)
[05:01] <MasterShrek> qos, or /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[05:01] <tanath> every time i drag something in firefox, even accidentally, X crashes. wtf?
[05:01] <univremonster> arafangion; no, no, not the drug, the program
[05:01] <qos> MasterShrek, alsa? sure that u mean me?
[05:01] <DrHalan> hey with wine i get something lke fixme:advapi:GetFileSecurityW (L"C:\\windows\\temp\\GLFf08.tmp") : returns fake SECURITY_DESCRIPTOR
[05:01] <Tidus> Arafangion: i have a quite fast new machine ready to build for US$1350
[05:01] <ghosTM55> VincentMX, ghostm55@hotmail.com , this is mine
[05:01] <Arafangion> univremonster: Who the heck names a program after a major addictive drug?
[05:01] <neverblue> tanath, check the logs?
[05:01] <univremonster> Arafangion; it's a p2p program... I guess it's supposed to be addictive
[05:01] <Arafangion> Tidus: Everything's cheaper in the US. This is AUD.
[05:02] <univremonster> tidus; the new Autocad (2008 ed.) is $4k
[05:02] <Arafangion> univremonster: I see.  We don't support illegal downloads.
[05:02] <Radish> hey im installing ubuntu on my father's computer and im a bit scared
[05:02] <Radish> I went through the installation wizard, it was going fine...
[05:02] <Tidus> univremonster: it's US$3999 here...
[05:02] <rebel4lyfe> but....
[05:02] <Radish> and then after it finished, it went back to the partitioning thing
[05:02] <univremonster> arafangion; I know.  I would feel guilty about it but I Just want to learn how to use it, I'm not doing anything
[05:02] <Radish> so I clicked cancel because id already done it
[05:02] <Radish> and then restarted
[05:02] <neverblue> Radish, can you keep it to a line?
[05:02] <Radish> and now it says "Missing operating system"
[05:03] <neverblue> rather than many...
[05:03] <Radish> sorry im just a bit scared ive lost all his files...
[05:03] <tanath> neverblue, there's this in .xsession-errors... dunno if it's relevant: (gnome-panel:7103): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
[05:03] <mayorbuttes> crashed.
[05:03] <univremonster> arafangion; for my personal education, not for profit or any other use
[05:03] <MasterShrek> sorry qos not 4 u =P
[05:03] <Arafangion> univremonster: Irrelevant.  If the terms are too restrictive for you to learn it, then so be it, they've lost a customer.
[05:03] <neverblue> tanath, try removing firefox, then reinstalling?
[05:03] <VincentMX> ghosTM55, btw, dont EVER do that
[05:03] <Arafangion> univremonster: Then again, your country might allow that - in Australia, we have NO "fair use" clauses. :(
[05:03] <ghosTM55> yeah , i now
[05:03] <ghosTM55> see
[05:03] <Radish> I went through installing ubuntu, then after it was done it went back to the partitioner.. I pressed cancel because id already done it, and then restarted, and now it says "Missing operating system", im trying to dual boot with windows
[05:03] <VincentMX> sending your personal email on a public channel
[05:03] <qos> MasterShrek, np ;)
[05:03] <univremonster> arafangion; somehow I doubt it.  I'm in the US.
[05:04] <neverblue> Radish, is this on a seperate machine, or the one your currently using?
[05:04] <Tidus> Radish: theres no boot loader installed
[05:04] <Tidus> Radish: thats why its doing that
[05:04] <tanath> neverblue, could it be that i'm using the official firefox?
[05:04] <Radish> oh god so I haven't lost his files? *actually shaking*
[05:04] <neverblue> tanath, could you answer my question?
[05:04] <Radish> im going to boot back into ubuntu with the CD, then im going to back up stuff, then should I just do the install again?
[05:05] <jrib> univremonster: vmware, virtualbox, qemu all work on feisty
[05:05] <Tidus> Radish: i would try that
[05:05] <derenrich> isn't gutsy supposed to come out this month?
[05:05] <Radish> okay thanks
[05:05] <tanath> neverblue, lol, not in recent memory. i've had this prob a while
[05:05] <Arafangion> univremonster: They have a relatively cheap lite or educational version you could buy.
[05:05] <Tidus> !gutsy
[05:05] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:05] <univremonster> jrib; VMWare's site says it's only supported through 6.10, and i get errors on install
[05:05] <neverblue> tanath, there ya go, get her done
[05:05] <tanath> neverblue, but would i reinstall the official one, which is what i use?
[05:05] <jrib> univremonster: vmware-player is in ubuntu's universe repository
[05:05] <Arafangion> jrib: I wouldn't bother with qemu, especially with Autocad.
[05:05] <univremonster> arafangion; Alright, I'll look into that.
[05:05] <Tidus> univremonster: autocad 2008LT isn't that expensive...
[05:05] <neverblue> tanath, why wouldnt you?
[05:06] <smithers> How do I tell Dapper Drake what the default program is for certain file types?
[05:06] <jrib> !defaultapp > smithers (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:06] <neverblue> smithers, 'preferred applications' maybe?
[05:06] <Grandpappi> how can i determine if my madwifi-ng patches installed correctly? any commands?
[05:07] <smithers> jrib: Thanks
[05:07] <univremonster> jrib; I was curious about that... I seem to be getting conflicting messages.  Check out this forum page:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209 what is its purpose if it can be fully installed through the repos?
[05:07] <john_m> running fiesty, problem with xchat, when editing network list the changes dont stick.
[05:08] <SeanTater> I have several DVDs that are not encrypted and will play in a DVD Player, but when I put them in my DVD-RW drive, I get "no medium found". How is that?
[05:08] <Arafangion> univremonster: If you're looking at emulators, I strongly recommend VMware. It's the best, at least for windows guests.
[05:08] <jrib> univremonster: that's about vmware server, not player
[05:08] <SeanTater> And it's not just one drive, two different drives in two different computers won't read it..
[05:08] <KpoH> people, what happens with my OOO? http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2637/screenshotps4.png
[05:09] <dutchie86> hi all
[05:09] <univremonster> jrib; ok ok so I am going to ask a question I'm assuming is a dumb one beforehand, but just to verify... that means I don't need it unless I'm running a server
[05:09] <Arafangion> univremonster: And ignore "vmware player".  Get the server (But not ESX server, that one costs money, and is an OS in its own right)
[05:09] <jrib> univremonster: I use player fine.  What's the advantage to server Arafangion ?
[05:09] <univremonster> jrib, arafangion; I was just about to ask that
[05:10] <Arafangion> jrib: Faster, and you can install your own OS into it. It's more than just a mere 'player'.
[05:10] <michal_> Arafangion: Have you tried VirtualBox?
[05:10] <univremonster> arafangion, jrib; not that it matters, since I have errors installing player
[05:10] <Arafangion> jrib: It used to be that only the player was free, but now the server is too.
[05:11] <Arafangion> michal_: No. :(  They're a promising recent player, though. :)
[05:11] <x600> How can I play mp3 file backwards?
[05:11] <univremonster> arafangion; can I talk to you on a separate channel and send you the error messages to see if you can help?  They are the same as when I tried to install server edition
[05:11] <Arafangion> michal_: But, for a _windows_ guest, I still recommend vmware.  For other OS's as guests, I do not recommend VMware (unless windows is a host, in which case I still recommend it)
[05:11] <Arafangion> univremonster: No, it's 1am, I am about to get to bed. Sorry.
[05:12] <univremonster> arafangion; well, thanks for your help anyway, at least I've learned a bit
[05:12] <CarlFK> how can I tell the date or version that was used to install?
[05:12] <Kouryuu> hw do you all feel about xen compared to VMWare?
[05:12] <univremonster> jrib; can I send you the error messages on a separate channel?
[05:12] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: It beats the pants of VMWare..
[05:12] <jrib> univremonster: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:13] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: But it's not quite the same.  It requires that the guest kernel be modified to allow it, for the fastest emulation speed.
[05:13] <Kouryuu> I havn't tried it yet..  is it simpler, leaner?  better written? how is it so much better than VMWare?
[05:13] <faileas> actually guest kernel HAS to be modified, for non VT chips for xen
[05:13] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: Unless you use the *slower* hardware emulation (ie, VT chips)
[05:13] <john_m> running fiesty, problem with xchat, when editing network list the changes dont stick.
[05:13] <univremonster> jrib:  I have never used that before... I just pasted it
[05:14] <jrib> univremonster: k, now give us the url
[05:14] <indrek> VincentMX, im on ubuntu now
[05:14] <univremonster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33701/
[05:14] <attunix> does Cinerella accept other files besides ogg?
[05:14] <Creteil> hi all
[05:14] <Kouryuu> Arafangion: good to know, is there any way to easily "test" VT compatibility?
[05:15] <indrek> VincentMX, it seems that the connection losts when i send something
[05:15] <Creteil> why i need to start manually /etc/init.d/bluetooth ?
[05:15] <univremonster> jrib:  so this is when, before, I went to the VMWare website to search the forums and they said it was only supported through 6.10
[05:15] <faileas> Kouryuu: check your chip ;).
[05:15] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: Your CPU specs.
[05:15] <jrib> univremonster: is this what you get with the 'vmware-player' package?
[05:15] <KpoH> can somebody say what wrong with my OOO?  screenshot -> http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2637/screenshotps4.png
[05:15] <univremonster> yes, it's the same
[05:15] <KpoH> where all icons
[05:15] <KpoH> ?
[05:16] <faileas> alternately try creating a 64 bit vm in vmware. 64 bit vms need VT or pacifica
[05:16] <jrib> univremonster: ok, lets start over, can you remove what you have installed and pastebin the output of 'sudo aptitude install vmware-player'?
[05:16] <Arafangion> faileas: Interesting.
[05:16] <Kouryuu> Arafangion, faileas, something in /proc/cpu perhaps?  I'm curious if I can scrit/remotely test..
[05:16] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: Try google. It's a very specific CPU functionality.
[05:16] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: My Pentium4-M does not have it.
[05:16] <soybeef> how can i get ubuntu to recognise my ipv4 address like it does on the livecd. i have 6.06 installed on my hard drive.
[05:17] <faileas> Kouryuu: i usually use the 64 bit test VMware has foe windows ;)
[05:17] <Kouryuu> yeah, that's what I found with my T42p Thinkpad too ;(
[05:17] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: It's no loss.
[05:17] <Arafangion> Kouryuu: Xen sucks on laptops.
[05:17] <Radish> how much space will ubuntu need for everything?
[05:17] <Kouryuu> good to know
[05:17] <giant> what does xen do differently than vmware?
[05:17] <faileas> Radish: least 10 GB imo
[05:17] <faileas> giant: lots
[05:17] <Arafangion> giant: It does "paravirtualization".
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> giant,  radical different approach to a similer task.
[05:18] <Radish> will 30gb do?
[05:18] <faileas> xen uses paravirtualisation
[05:18] <demonstealer> i tried to download an application, an error message says~you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. ~pls help
[05:18] <Arafangion> giant: While VMware actually emulates it.
[05:18] <faileas> Radish: easily
[05:18] <Radish> :D
[05:18] <Arafangion> Radish: 3GB will do fine.
[05:18] <univremonster> jrib; it's doing something it hasn't done before... it's taking its time about it though
[05:18] <giant> hmmm so what would xen be better for?
[05:18] <Arafangion> giant: Running any opensource OS as a "guest".
[05:19] <Arafangion> giant: Though, with Xen, it's more of a 'sibling', afaik.
[05:19] <Ernz> Hi, can someone please tell me how to find out the address of my V4L device?
[05:19] <giant> so if I were to want to run FC7 on my Ubuntu box... xen would be faster?
[05:19] <Arafangion> giant: Heaps faster. It's be native.
[05:19] <giant> what about Solaris 10?
[05:19] <Arafangion> giant: But... You can't do it with the stock FC7 disk. You must get a version that has had its kernel modified for Xen.
[05:19] <Arafangion> giant: Likewise.
[05:20] <giant> ok
[05:20] <univremonster> jrib; same website, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33703/
[05:20] <giant> do they generally make those versions available for free? or are they special versions that you may need to pay for?
[05:20] <phreck> we got bisoncam drivers yet?
[05:20] <alesan> which command-line command can I give to end the current graphical session?
[05:20] <faileas> if they are available they are free, usually
[05:20] <Arafangion> giant: They are generally free - it's an opensource OS, but you're generally on your own - it's not yet a common way to run it.
[05:20] <giant> does Xen run very well in parallel with vmware server?
[05:21] <Kopcap> hi, what can i do if my ubuntu stopped responding to shortcut keys like ctrl+f, ctrl+c etc?
[05:21] <jrib> univremonster: are you back at a command prompt now?
[05:21] <indrek> :(
[05:21] <Creteil> why i need to start manually /etc/init.d/bluetooth ?
[05:21] <univremonster> jrib; yes
[05:21] <giant> or do they tend to conflict
[05:21] <jrib> univremonster: type 'vmplayer' and press enter
[05:21] <Arafangion> jrib: He's installing the player?
[05:21] <faileas> giant: no idea
[05:21] <drascus321> I am having a problem with fw-cutter is there anyone that can assist?
[05:21] <univremonster> "vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[05:21] <univremonster> for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
[05:21] <univremonster> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[05:21] <univremonster> "
[05:21] <_imran_> can anyone tell me the difference between gnome and kde?
[05:22] <Arafangion> faileas: I doubt they'd run together, afaik, VMware server employes some techniques that Xen makes, but I suspect they'd still run.
[05:22] <faileas> _imran_: they are not the same? ;)
[05:22] <demonstealer> help!
[05:22] <limitedwisdom> greetings - I'm a complete noob and having a problem configuring RT (Request Tracker)...it needs an alias setup, and I must not be doing it right - keep getting a message that the mail cannot be delivered because the recipient is unknown...
[05:22] <faileas> its a matter of preference
[05:22] <jrib> Arafangion: yes
[05:22] <student_modnar> hello, I still can't remove ehci_hcd from my listing of starting modules in fiesty, I tried putting it on the blacklist and even deleting the module out of /lib/modules/.../usb/host, but ehci_hcd still shows up : (
[05:22] <univremonster> jrib; it takes me back to the same thing where it says I don't have a module, do I want to overwrite, and I say yes and it doesn't work
[05:22] <directLink> When I installed compiz-fusion, I added it so it would start when I logged in. Now I have unchecked it from the startup list for my session, but it keeps starting whenever I log in. Does somwone know what might be causing this?
[05:23] <jrib> univremonster: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[05:23] <Pici> demonstealer: run `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[05:23] <FalseCAM> hi
[05:23] <Kopcap> anyone?
[05:23] <Arafangion> _imran_: They are both competitors.
[05:23] <Kopcap> what can i do if my ubuntu stopped responding to shortcut keys like ctrl+f, ctrl+c etc?
[05:23] <zirra-meeting> mayorbuttes: ok, back.  In recovery mode does it load all the modules?
[05:24] <Arafangion> _imran_: Both can run ALL the same programs, etc, they are just different environments.
[05:24] <FalseCAM> is eclipse 3.3 available for ubuntu?
[05:24] <mayorbuttes> zirra-meeting: I'm not entirely sure. It might not.
[05:24] <zirra-meeting> Hrm.
[05:24] <dannym> hello, could anyone here help me with my webcam?
[05:24] <mayorbuttes> zirra-meeting: I appologize but I'm a bit out of my element. That's about hte best I can do.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[05:24] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:24] <zirra-meeting> IS there any way to boot up NOT in recovery mode and get to a console window instead of gdm?
[05:24] <mayorbuttes> zirra-meeting: Might want to ask someone else with more knowlege than me
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> zirra-meeting,  you could always disable the gdm service/ or stop it.
[05:25] <_imran_> faileas, i know that much, i want to know why should i choose gnome over kde or vice verse
[05:25] <dannym> thanks, i'll browse thru it first
[05:25] <mayorbuttes> zirra-meeting: you need to edit something in the rmod files I believe
[05:25] <Arafangion> zirra-meeting: Just hit ctrl+alt+F1, and to return to the X11 session, hit alt+F7
[05:25] <faileas> _imran_: IMO try them and decide
[05:25] <zirra-meeting> Arafangion: I tried that, it didnt work.
[05:25] <_imran_> Arafangion, what do you mean by enviroments?
[05:25] <Creteil> why i need to start manually /etc/init.d/bluetooth ?
[05:25] <limitedwisdom> anyone?
[05:25] <zirra-meeting> the problem is when ubnutu is booting up I see NOTHING on the screen.
[05:25] <_imran_> i have
[05:26] <faileas> personally i think gnome is more polished on Ubuntu than KDE
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> i.e. I don't see the ubuntu logo with the progress bar at all.
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> I never have.
[05:26] <limitedwisdom> ubuntu server alias problem?
[05:26] <faileas> but i like KDE
[05:26] <Arafangion> zirra-meeting: Does your keyboar... Oh, do you have an ATI card?
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> Nvidia.
[05:26] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: maybe 771 instead of 791
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> jetscreamer: what?
[05:26] <jetscreamer> vga=
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> Ah.
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> Where do I put that?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> zirra-meeting,  NOW we are getting to the real problem. :)
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> lol
[05:26] <jetscreamer> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:26] <Arafangion> _imran_: It's purely a preference.
[05:26] <jetscreamer> in the defoptions
[05:26] <zirra-meeting> And people are bugging me to go to lunch.  Let me boot recovery mode real quick and edit menu.lst
[05:27] <Kopcap> what can i do if my ubuntu stopped responding to shortcut keys like ctrl+f, ctrl+c etc?
[05:27] <zirra-meeting> I may have to leave for lunch and bug ya'll when I get back.
[05:27] <Kouryuu> anyone know how/where to look for the ubuntu pkg trees to us in a seed file? or is everything just called by "d-i pkgsel/include pkgname" ?
[05:27] <mannytu> maybe, the Menu and Toolbar Preference...
[05:27] <_imran_> Arafangion, ok
[05:27] <limitedwisdom> can anyone help me with a mail server alias problem?
[05:27] <neverblue> !patience limitedwisdom
[05:27] <giant> so vmware-server would be the fastest way to run windows xp as a guest OS in my Ubuntu installation
[05:28] <giant> I use the xp vmware image as a development platform
[05:28] <neverblue> giant, not fast, but easiest
[05:28] <Arafangion> _imran_: There are political, ideological, and practical differences.  I sometimes find that KDE is more consistent, but ultimetly I prefer Gnome, though I often don't run either.
[05:28] <limitedwisdom> neverblue: noted, still an IRC noob too.
[05:28] <giant> neverblue, what would be the fastest?
[05:28] <neverblue> giant, unless you just require wine, to use specific applications
[05:28] <karthikp> Can someone help me? I have a bluetooth problem...
[05:29] <neverblue> giant, another machine/dual booting
[05:29] <giant> neverblue, I use SQL server, IIS, and build some programs in C#
[05:29] <zirra-meeting> Adding vga=791 to the defoptions didn't fix the bootup screen
[05:29] <zirra-meeting> (or lack thereof more appropriately)
[05:29] <Arafangion> zirra-meeting: Try disabling bootsplash.
[05:29] <zirra-meeting> ok.
[05:30] <intengu> I have enabled restricted drivers, and desktop effects is not working - nvidia hardware not found but have ATI
[05:30] <zirra-meeting> do I just take splash out of defoptions?
[05:30] <Kopcap> i think i'll never get an answer to my question
[05:30] <Arafangion> zirra-meeting: I can't remember.
[05:30] <karthikp> Got disconnected.
[05:30] <Kopcap> asking 4th time :P what can i do if my ubuntu stopped responding to shortcut keys like ctrl+f, ctrl+c etc?
[05:30] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: 771
[05:30] <bullgard4> /usr/share/doc/grub/README writes: "See the GRUB manual for details about using GRUB as your boot loader." What is the filename ot this GRUB manual?
[05:30] <_imran_> Arafangion, then what do you run?
[05:30] <zirra-meeting> jetscreamer: let me try it.
[05:30] <Arafangion> _imran_: fluxbox. :)
[05:30] <karthikp> I'm trying to use bluetooth on Feisty.
[05:30] <giant> Kopcap, maybe noone knows
[05:30] <zirra-meeting> I like beryl.
[05:30] <neverblue> giant, ok :)
[05:31] <Kopcap> giant then i'd like to hear that :/
[05:31] <karthikp> So, I want to connect my phone to the computer.
[05:31] <_imran_> Arafangion, is that another enviro...?
[05:31] <demonspork> zirra-meeting, get with it, beryl is out, compiz fusion is in
[05:31] <Arafangion> _imran_: Pretty much, yes.
[05:31] <karthikp> I do sudo hidd --connect blahblah and it works, but just for a sec.
[05:31] <giant> Kopcap, you don't want 1100 people messageing you with IDK
[05:31] <karthikp> Then, it's gone.
[05:31] <X-Hacker> sup?
[05:31] <Creteil> why does hcid was not started properly during initscripts sequence (/etc/init.d/bluetooth start but hcid not) i constantly need to do manually sudo /etc/initd/bluetooth start
[05:31] <zirra-meeting> I dunno what compiz-fusion even is.
[05:31] <karthikp> Any help?
[05:31] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: another thing i've done is set xvrefresh and xhrefresh in there... that plus vga= seems to work for me
[05:31] <X-Hacker> not sure
[05:31] <_imran_> do you prefer it to kde & gnome?
[05:32] <Arafangion> _imran_: Well, KDE and Gnome are much bigger Desktop Environments. They have icons, panels, taskbars, and a pile of stuff.
[05:32] <Arafangion> _imran_: fluxbox is very minimal, it's just a Window Manager, but it loads /just like that/, and well, I just prefer it.
[05:32] <karthikp> Creteil, are we having similar issues?
[05:32] <Creteil> karthikp : don't know, wat yours ?
[05:32] <Arafangion> _imran_: If you've never used linux, then just stick with the defaults.
[05:33] <Arafangion> _imran_: And for Ubuntu, that is Gnome.
[05:33] <zirra-meeting> ok.. rebooting now with vga=771
[05:33] <karthikp> My problem is that the bluetooth connection works just for a second.
[05:33] <karthikp> Then it disconnects.
[05:33] <ryanandheather> hey guys how do i go about installing windows AFTER unbuntu
[05:33] <zirra-meeting> ok, no splash screen, so not sure if vga=771 worked
[05:33] <neverblue> Kopcap, is it application specific, did you change settings?
[05:33] <_j8_> hi
[05:33] <zirra-meeting> but I don't really care about that, if I can see my  gdm screen when its done ;)
[05:33] <Arafangion> ryanandheather: With great pain.
[05:33] <neverblue> ryanandheather, you probably shouldnt
[05:33] <zirra-meeting> But I see it booting up now.
[05:33] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: just changing the defoptions , you need to run update-grub for them to be in effect
[05:34] <riyonuk> How do I install fonts? Cause I wish to install the first one, www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download, buy am unsure on which file to download
[05:34] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: or edit each kernel line
[05:34] <Arafangion> ryanandheather: You have to hack around grub, do some fairly obscure grub magic, etc, and basically be really nasty.
[05:34] <neverblue> ryanandheather, if you want to know why, attempt to google it
[05:34] <Arafangion> ryanandheather: Windows insists on being the only OS.
[05:34] <Kopcap> neverblue nope, it's everywhere. In any app. I dunno, changed something, i think... Because it worked... and i forgot to say that i'm 'working' with ubuntu 3rd day :D
[05:34] <ryanandheather> alright thanks i'll just wipe and do it the other way around since its easy as pie
[05:34] <Kopcap> and with linux in general :>
[05:34] <Arafangion> ryanandheather: There, that's a good guy. :)
[05:35] <Lichnet> I used k3b to burn a Data DVD from a dvd-r, then it gave successfull burning. When i inserted the dvd again, the system started to act very slow and the dvd-rw drive went crazy, then after some minutes it ejected (i pushed to eject minutes before)
[05:35] <zirra-meeting> Ah ha.  Failed to start x server.
[05:35] <zirra-meeting> wtf.
[05:35] <neverblue> Kopcap, so you did change something?
[05:35] <Creteil> karthikp : on my side the bluetooth work reliably, the only problem I have is I need to start manually /etc/init.d/bluetooth manually (the script launch hcid daemon) because even the script run properly at boot, hcid does not start automatically ...
[05:35] <ryanandheather> Arafangion: :] 
[05:35] <Arafangion> Lichnet: You got a coaster.
[05:35] <Lichnet> I lost the dvd that was from a friend =/
[05:35] <Lichnet> Arafangion, coaster?
[05:35] <neverblue> Lichnet, did you confirm the burn after you did it?
[05:35] <Arafangion> Lichnet: Yeah, next time you have a coffee, use that new coaster :)
[05:35] <Kopcap> neverblue i think so... If i didn't - then everything would work and i wouldn't have this problem :))
[05:35] <zirra-meeting> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!  Please ensure that there's a supported NVIDIA GPU in this system etc etc etc.  Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[05:35] <zirra-meeting> I didnt -change- my xorg.conf
[05:35] <Lichnet> Arafangion, whats coaster?
[05:35] <mannytu> Kopcap: did you look at your "Menu and Toolbar Preference"
[05:36] <Lichnet> neverblue, what do u mean with confirm
[05:36] <Arafangion> Lichnet: It's something you put the hot coffee mug on to protect the table.  I guess English isn't your first language?
[05:36] <neverblue> Kopcap, your being obvious, so allow me as well, undo what you did, before it 'caused' this to happen
[05:36] <Lichnet> neverblue, it burnt sucessfull and ejected for me to take the dvd
[05:36] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: changing menu.lst does not make that error happen, but grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:36] <Lichnet> Arafangion, isnt
[05:36] <intengu> any ideas on why desktop effects not working having enabled restricted driver, have an ati card but error msg refers to nvidia
[05:36] <Kopcap> neverblue :D i don't know what i did, if i knew i would try to fix it :)))
[05:36] <Kopcap> that's why i'm here. maybe someone could tell me what i did wrong and how to fix it :)
[05:36] <neverblue> Lichnet, reburn, and ask K3b to check the image, to ensure the burn is good, if it is, and still an issue, then you might want to look at the image being bad
[05:36] <zirra-meeting> jetscreamer: It says the same thing.
[05:37] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: unless you booted a different kernel
[05:37] <alexfox> my ubuntu is setup to a domain name and i want to change it does anyone know how to do this?
[05:37] <neverblue> Kopcap, neither would I :)
[05:37] <zirra-meeting> I didnt boot a different kernel.
[05:37] <Arafangion> neverblue: He could well be burning too fast.
[05:37] <jetscreamer> then that error might happen, zirra-meeting
[05:37] <Kopcap> like i said, i don't know nor linux nor ubuntu :)
[05:37] <DivideZero> what is the different between ubuntu and Xubuntu ?
[05:37] <zirra-meeting> All I did was change defoptions.
[05:37] <Lichnet> neverblue, ill insert again and i think the system will go slow and i wont be able to do anything lol
[05:37] <zirra-meeting> Its saying Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module.  Nothing different.
[05:37] <neverblue> Arafangion, yes, that as well, good to check the burn
[05:37] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: and if you didn't run update-grub, changing the defoptions didn't do anything yet
[05:37] <zirra-meeting> I did.
[05:37] <Arafangion> DivideZero: Different desktop environment, instead of Gnome, it uses Xfce.
[05:37] <jetscreamer> ah
[05:38] <neverblue> Lichnet, K3b usually checks the burn immediately after
[05:38] <alexfox> my ubuntu is setup to a domain name and i want to change it does anyone know how to do this?
[05:38] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: change it back and test then
[05:38] <zirra-meeting> ANd last modified date is 2008-08-10
[05:38] <Lichnet> went crazy again,aaa
[05:38] <zirra-meeting> so xorg.conf hasn't changed.
[05:38] <variant> !dnsdomainname
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dnsdomainname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <neverblue> Lichnet, you might want to look at burning it again, and checking the image if the burn went fine, what type of data are you burning?
[05:38] <Lichnet> neverblue, I put the dvd-rom, then suddenly the system becomes VERY slow that I CANT do anything
[05:39] <Lichnet> neverblue, I pushed eject then mintues later it ejected (now)
[05:39] <jetscreamer> zirra-meeting: a kernel update (from sources) could do that also
[05:39] <neverblue> Lichnet, did I say to reinsert it? no
[05:39] <zirra-meeting> I didnt.
[05:39] <tim__> firefox plugin web
[05:39] <jetscreamer> but it's not supposed to
[05:39] <DivideZero> Arafangion , only this ?
[05:39] <zirra-meeting> jetscreamer: brb, people pulling me to another meeting.
[05:39] <variant> alexfox: change it in /etc/hosts
[05:39] <Creteil> why does hcid was not started properly during initscripts sequence (/etc/init.d/bluetooth start but hcid not) i constantly need to do manually sudo /etc/initd/bluetooth start
[05:39] <zirra-meeting> jetscreamer: Be back in 30-60
[05:39] <zirra-meeting> (thanks for the help, by the way)
[05:39] <jetscreamer> change it back zirra-meeting  when you can and test
[05:39] <sparrw> I am telnetting from linux to sco unix.  I need to know what should go in the sco machine's /etc/termcap file to properly descibe linux's "xterm".  Unfortunately, termcap is deprecated in linux, and even worse, the old versions I can find don't define "xterm" anyways.  Help?
[05:39] <Lichnet> neverblue, audio files in mp3 format
[05:39] <zirra-meeting> jetscreamer: I just did and rebooted.  I'll tell ya results when I get back.
[05:39] <rly> anyone who may help me with skype?
[05:39] <neverblue> Lichnet, then reburn, and confirm the burn was successful
[05:39] <zirra-meeting> FYI, vga=771 doesnt work either.
[05:39] <frojnd> I have installed a particular package. How can I get informations about where is the content of this particular package?
[05:40] <Lichnet> neverblue, u mean buy another dvd-r?
[05:40] <neverblue> Lichnet, might want to see what the default app is for mp3s
[05:40] <neverblue> Lichnet, no, I am not buying you another dvdr
[05:40] <smithers> Still having problems with Firefox launching a non-exist application for my torrent files. I changed the default application to KTorrent (which IS installed on my system) but it won't launch ktorrent when I download files.
[05:40] <Pici> frojnd: dpkg -L packagename
[05:40] <Lichnet> neverblue, u mean that i need to buy another dvd-r then test it in k3b agian?
[05:41] <Kurisutofuaa> How do I set up a custom keyboard shortcut to change my input language on my computer (been trying to learn Japanese and I just want to make it easier)?
[05:41] <_j8_> I hava a problem with acceleration
[05:41] <neverblue> Lichnet, you dont have dvdrs laying around?
[05:41] <_j8_> direct rendering is ok
[05:41] <Lichnet> neverblue, that was my friend's dvd-r shit im a loser lol
[05:41] <neverblue> _j8_, keep it to one line please
[05:41] <Lichnet> neverblue, ill never use k3b again in my life! Lol
[05:41] <neverblue> !language | Lichnet
[05:41] <ubotu> Lichnet: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:41] <Lichnet> Sorry
[05:41] <neverblue> np :)
[05:42] <neverblue> i wouldnt exactly blame it directly on K3b
[05:42] <neverblue> but if you want to :)
[05:42] <Lichnet> neverblue, the tools it uses
[05:42] <Lichnet> neverblue, :D
[05:42] <neverblue> Lichnet, try it in an mp3 player?
[05:42] <_j8_> I hava a problem with acceleration. Direct rendering: Yes. 15276 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3055.154 FPS. http://nopaste.com/p/aKqYSK2vH
[05:42] <Lichnet> neverblue, what?
[05:43] <neverblue> oh right, its a DVD
[05:43] <Lichnet> neverblue, this dvd-rom is lost
[05:43] <neverblue> yeah, coaster
[05:43] <Lichnet> neverblue, neither in dvd-player it plays
[05:43] <Lichnet> neverblue, =/
[05:43] <Pici> _j8_: Whats the problem?
[05:43] <Lichnet> cya
[05:43] <Lichnet> gonna buy with my money another one =o
[05:43] <_j8_> Pici slow gears
[05:44] <_j8_> and very slow floghtgear
[05:44] <_j8_> flightgear*
[05:44] <freizo> hi
[05:44] <freizo> anyone can teach me how to build a personalized ubuntu
[05:44] <freizo> ??
[05:44] <travis> hey guys good morning
[05:44] <neverblue> morning
[05:45] <neverblue> freizo, need assistance with installing applications?
[05:45] <limitedwisdom> anyone have a sec for the mail alias issue?
[05:45] <neverblue> nm then :/
[05:45] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: I'm off to bed, but I'll give you some very, very quick pointers.
[05:46] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: mail aliases are (afaik) in /etc/aliases, and you need to run newaliases after you change it.
[05:46] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: You also need to ensure that the local system can send mail directly.
[05:46] <travis> i whanted to get my wireless card working im on a dell ispiron and its a built in broadcom
[05:46] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: Please don't privmsg.
[05:46] <porkpie> hi guys how do I give a group write permissons to a file
[05:46] <neverblue> !wireless | travis
[05:46] <ubotu> travis: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:46] <travis> i beilive i need a program liek quickset to turn it on
[05:47] <savetheWorld> chmod g+w file
[05:47] <Pici> _j8_: If you're running a compositing window manager you might see some slowdown in 3d apps, but that fps you posted looked good.
[05:47] <neverblue> porkpie, in Gnome, or command line?
[05:47] <sindile_> with desktop effects totem does not show video in gutsy
[05:47] <porkpie> command line
[05:47] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: But yes, edit the /etc/aliases file as root, then run newaliases as root.
[05:47] <_j8_> Pici: i use fluxbox
[05:47] <neverblue> there you are, see savetheWorld's post
[05:47] <limitedwisdom> ahh - never heard of that before...is it just the "sudo newaliases"
[05:47] <limitedwisdom> cool. - sorry my IRC client beeps at me when you start with my name, I thought you were PMing me :)
[05:47] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: You might need to install an MTA (Mail Transfer Agent), such as postfix, I haven't needed to do this on Ubuntu. (I'm a Debian guy)
[05:47] <_j8_> Pici: quite minimal
[05:48] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: Fix your irc client. :)
[05:48] <limitedwisdom> I have already installed that
[05:48] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: irssi is my fav client.
[05:48] <_j8_> Pici: that's why i don't understand the problem :S
[05:48] <dgjones> sindile_, try asking in #ubuntu+1, support for gutsy is in that channel
[05:48] <travis> hey also i have been trying to do a dual boot for linuix windows and when ever i try to install W home edition i get the blue screen of death :@
[05:48] <wayoutthere> !mp3
[05:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:48] <Pici> _j8_: I mean are you running compiz/beryl?
[05:48] <limitedwisdom> I like it - I just assumed it was beeping bcuz it was a pm, I think it's kinda cool that it does it just when people put in my name (i have about a dozen windows open)
[05:48] <faileas> travis: tried wubi?
[05:48] <Some_Person> Can I change/get rid of the GNOME foot in the file browser?
[05:49] <travis> ummm not at all
[05:49] <travis> is that some sort of emulator for windows
[05:49] <Arafangion> limitedwisdom: Check out xchat or irssi. :)
[05:49] <limitedwisdom> ok - using chatzilla now.
[05:49] <Lichnet> neverblue, hey7
[05:49] <limitedwisdom> I'll definitely check them out
[05:49] <Radish> is it possible to share thunderbird and firefox application data with windows?
[05:49] <wayoutthere> Anyone know what package to install in order to get MP3 from soundjuicer?
[05:49] <Radish> I want to have the same mail on both OSs
[05:49] <Lichnet> neverblue, I put the DVD-ROM while using WINXP OS and look what happened?
[05:50] <Lichnet> neverblue, it worked
[05:50] <faileas> travis: wubi is an alternate install method, totally dosen't touch your windows install
[05:50] <faileas> !wubi
[05:50] <matthew_> wayoutthere I use sox to convert ogg to mp3
[05:50] <travis> right now all i have on my computer is linuix istalled
[05:50] <ubotu> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[05:50] <Lichnet> neverblue, but when i insert here in ubuntu, all the system becomes slow that i cant do nothing :/
[05:50] <alphanimal> Is there a way to remove OSS? Or at least tell it to stop stealing control over my sound cards?
[05:50] <faileas> ahh
[05:50] <travis> and a partition i bielve empt for windows i made
[05:50] <travis> empty*
[05:50] <Lichnet> neverblue, in the console i can see some messages
[05:50] <GNine> i have 2 partitions. one has a Owner: root permission assigned. i want to be able to access it from my user account. how do i change such permission
[05:51] <Lichnet> neverblue, hdc: drive not ready for command
[05:51] <riyonuk> How do I install fonts? Cause I wish to install the first one, www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download, buy am unsure on which file to download
[05:51] <neverblue> Lichnet, whats the default app, which app opens when you insert the DVDr, which app handles your mp3s
[05:51] <Radish> im running windows and linux dual boot- how can I make them share email for thunderbird and bookmarks for firefox?
[05:51] <professor_> doesanyone know if they have got the broadcom wireless cards to work with ubuntu
[05:51] <_j8_> My whole question: http://nopaste.com/p/at4o3Eqwr
[05:51] <Lichnet> neverblue, some kinit messages
[05:52] <dgjones> !bcm43xx | professor_
[05:52] <ubotu> professor_: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:52] <Some_Person> Can I change/get rid of the GNOME foot in the file browser?
[05:52] <neverblue> Radish, sabe your firefox bookmarks, in the 'organize bookmarks'
[05:52] <Lichnet> neverblue, i use many audio players
[05:52] <flash42> Radish: bookmarks with del.icio.us
[05:52] <professor_> thanks guys
[05:52] <systemd0wn> QUESTION, anyone have a recommendation on a biometrics fingerprint scanner for linux?
[05:52] <GNine> the little foot is cute
[05:52] <Some_Person> GNine: little?
[05:52] <matthew_> the little foot is cute lol
[05:53] <Lichnet> neverblue, i gottta go in 2 min =x
[05:53] <neverblue> Lichnet, the default for handling mp3s, not which ones you use
[05:53] <GNine> referring to some_person not liking the gnome logo
[05:53] <Lichnet> neverblue, whats the relation with my dvd-rom? Oo'
[05:53] <matthew_> all my audio players play mp3 :d
[05:53] <Some_Person> I do not like the GNOME logo.
[05:53] <neverblue> Lichnet, i think we have talked enough :)
[05:53] <Lichnet> neverblue, totem movie playr
[05:53] <Lichnet> neverblue, byee
[05:53] <Some_Person> Especially the animated one in the file browser.
[05:54] <Some_Person> When it animates it looks stupid
[05:54] <GNine> i dont know how that could be more annoying than the windows logo .. or even the netscape one
[05:55] <travis> i wont loose any of my file when upgradin right
[05:55] <Some_Person> At least they don't look stupid when they animate
[05:55] <travis> files
[05:55] <Some_Person> The GNOME logo has wiggling toes
[05:55] <GNine> buddy.. have a nice day
[05:55] <matthew_> I don't even use gnome
[05:55] <matthew_> I use kde
[05:55] <GNine> i have 2 partitions. one has a Owner: root permission assigned. i want to be able to access it from my user account. how do i change such permission
[05:55] <Some_Person> I like GNOME better than KDE.
[05:55] <berent> !xen
[05:56] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[05:56] <neverblue> GNine, chown, chmod
[05:56] <matthew_> I got used to gnome when I first used ubuntu
[05:56] <matthew_> then I heard of kubuntu
[05:56] <matthew_> I used red hat before that came with both
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> GNine,  in a case like that. i always set up a directory on the 2nd partition and chown it to be owned by the User. Not the 'root' of the drive
[05:57] <travis> hey im trying to upgrad in usin (5,04
[05:57] <Some_Person> Why do a lot of people scold GNOME?
[05:57] <travis> and i have firefox and flash for it installed do i have to remove it
[05:57] <dannym> its me again
[05:57] <dannym> webcam problem
[05:57] <dannym> help
[05:57] <matthew_> some person I think gnome is nice
[05:57] <matthew_> I just don't want to use both
[05:57] <matthew_> I use some gnome apps
[05:57] <neverblue> dannym, ask your question clearly, and try and keep it to one line
[05:57] <dannym> installed the drivers
[05:57] <cameron_> How do I mount isos?
[05:58] <Some_Person> matthew_: I'm not talking about you
[05:58] <dannym> but the quality is too dark
[05:58] <matthew_> oh ok lol
[05:58] <matthew_> mount -o iso
[05:58] <kyncani> !iso | cameron_
[05:58] <ubotu> cameron_: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:58] <Kouryuu> Personally I like using KDE for the look/feel and because I found I can run Gnome (GTK) apps in KDE but not KDE apps in Gnome.. so for "tools" or software variety you get the most with KDE.
[05:58] <variant> Kouryuu: you can run kde aps in gnome..
[05:58] <Some_Person> All KDE apps I've tried run fine in GNOME
[05:59] <GNine> so i need to get /root make that directory get back on my user accnt open terminal and execute chown ?
[05:59] <dannym> neverblue | how do i make the video of the cam better? its too dark and small
[05:59] <variant> Kouryuu: exactly as you can gnome apps under kde. there is nothing to stop whatever app from running
[05:59] <Kouryuu> variant: I've always had dependancy errors?
[05:59] <matthew_> GNine you can just change permissions
[05:59] <cameron_> I'd rather not do it from the command line., Is there any gui to do it>?
[05:59] <banyunet> r
[06:00] <variant> Kouryuu: if you "apt-get install" the gnome app, you won't
[06:00] <travis> to upgrad to 5.10 do i need the install cd of badger
[06:00] <variant> GNine: /root is a directory (actually it's the root users home directory)
[06:00] <matthew_> I think I'm gonna go back to 6.06
[06:01] <matthew_> my server runs better than this 7.04 kubuntu :|
[06:01] <sindile_> any ideas why video shows as a black screen when desktop effects are enabled
[06:01] <Kouryuu> variant: cool, I havn't tried that since using ubuntu..  I'll have to give that a go ;)
[06:01] <neverblue> dannym: lsusb, put it on pastebin
[06:01] <flash42> cameron_: http://www.acetoneteam.org/latest-news.html i did not tried it
[06:01] <cameron_> kk, but thanks
[06:01] <dannym> ok
[06:01] <neverblue> !pastebin | danym
[06:01] <ubotu> danym: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:01] <eifzon> Anyone here using awn!?
[06:02] <matthew_> what is awn
[06:02] <neverblue> !ask eifzon
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask eifzon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <variant> GNine: you will have to change the ownership of the directory(s) on the partition in question, if it is a system folder of any kind then BE VERY CAREFULL
[06:02] <neverblue> !ask | eifzon
[06:02] <ubotu> eifzon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:02] <eifzon> I wonder how to put the "trash" icon to my awn
[06:02] <eifzon> matthew_: avant window navigator, like a dockbar
[06:02] <GNine> its just an empty partition right now
[06:02] <variant> sindile_: you need to select the correct output plugin, do you use gstreamer or xine backend for totem?
[06:02] <variant> GNine: where is it mounted?
[06:03] <sindile_> variant: gstreamer
[06:03] <Kouryuu> anyone have experience with building preseed files?
[06:03] <GNine> i have it mounted on my desktop .. but i dont have any access to change permissions on it
[06:03] <dannym> neverblue - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33710/plain/
[06:03] <neverblue> GNine, partition type?
[06:04] <variant> sindile_: cool, run "gstreamer-properties" as a normal user and select the video tab, there you need to select the option "Plugin: X Window System (No Xv)
[06:04] <variant> sindile_: then it will work
[06:04] <GNine> i need a code line .. can i run one from terminal?  type ext 3
[06:04] <variant> GNine: what is the path to the mount point? (type mount in a terminal and it will tell you)
[06:05] <variant> GNine: for example, if the mount point was "/media/disk-1" you would type "sudo chown -R gnine:users /media/disk-1"
[06:06] <Tonren> How can I stop a particular service from being run on boot?
[06:06] <GNine> alright.. trying that now
[06:06] <dannym> neverblue - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33710/plain/
[06:06] <neverblue> dannym, posting it twice is not required
[06:06] <petr4> Tonren: try chkconfig
[06:07] <sindile_> variant: thanks working
[06:07] <dannym> oh ok, i thought you missed it
[06:07] <variant> GNine: obviously you need to change "/media/disk-1" to be the real mountpoint of your disk
[06:07] <Fub> how do I set a partition to be readable/writable by all?
[06:07] <variant> sindile_: np
[06:07] <neverblue> dannym, most IRC clients do have highlighting
[06:07] <variant> Fub: in the options feild for the partition in /etc/fstab you need to add users,rw
[06:07] <neverblue> makes it hard to 'miss' lines when ppl add your nick at the beginning
[06:07] <dannym> neverblue, i'm using gaim
[06:07] <Tonren> petr4: There appears to be no such package or command.
[06:08] <dannym> neverblue - can you help me?
[06:08] <variant> Fub: then obviously make sure the directories on the partition have "user" set as group permissions and that those in "users" group can write to it
[06:09] <GNine> nice.. it worked
[06:09] <petr4> Tonren: hm, my other computer does have it
[06:09] <sergey_shandar> hi, could someone help me to set up wireless USB network*
[06:09] <petr4> Tonren never mind
[06:09] <neverblue> dannym, not if I have to keep coming back here, because your posting every 10-15 seconds
[06:09] <petr4> Tonren: you have to remove symbloc link in /etc/init.d/
[06:10] <petr4> Tonren sorry
[06:10] <GNine> thanks to variant, matthew, dr willis, neverblu
[06:10] <petr4> Tonren remove link from /etc/rc3.d/
[06:10] <matthew_> what did I do
[06:10] <GNine> lol
[06:10] <GNine> for me to know
[06:10] <erUSUL> Tonren: petr4 sudo update-rc.d -f <servicename> remove
[06:10] <GNine> (wink)
[06:10] <petr4> tonren: perhaps also /etc/rc2.d/, etc
[06:11] <matthew_> anyone get the new king diamond cd
[06:11] <Fub> variant, thanks
[06:11] <joakim`> Hi, i had an hdd crash a couple of weeks ago so i had to install ubuntu temporarily on my other hdd. it took way longer to get the replacement hdd than i thought so i've set up ubuntu to the way i want it already now, pretty much. is there an easy way to install ubuntu properly (with separate partitions for /var /usr and so forth) but keep all my settings and programs and stuff?
[06:11] <variant> GNine: good stuff
[06:11] <petr4> erUSUL: great, there is another command to remember :-(
[06:11] <variant> Fub: yw
[06:12] <DrHalan_> is there a keyboard shortcut in gnome to kill the active window?
[06:12] <variant> petr4: or install bum, boot up manager..
[06:12] <Fub> variant, I had forgotten to  change the permissions of the directory for the partition, silly mistake:)
[06:12] <neverblue> dannym, have you tried using camorama?
[06:12] <variant> Fub: hehe
[06:12] <petr4> DrHalan_: it exists, but i do not know. I use command xkill
[06:13] <dannym> neverblue - yes, that's where i found out that the quality is so poor, dark and small
[06:13] <Tonren> erUSUL: petr4: Thanks, I'll work with those
[06:13] <neverblue> dannym, is this a 'cheap' camera?
[06:13] <Jekhar> I'm new to server administration, using an Ubuntu-6.06 server running Ruby1.8.4 which was installed with apt-get. I have not found a .deb on the repository my server is checking for Ruby1.8.6. I'm sure I could build it myself, but was curious as to whether installing it via rubygems would cause any problems or inconsistencies with the present 1.8.4 package.
[06:14] <dannym> neverblue - its an old webcam i have from intel. my new cam is not being detected so i tried this intel pro cam
[06:14] <MasterShrek> omfg vista is so gay, i just burned a cd with a bunch of pictures on it. linux will not read it and neither will xp
[06:14] <MasterShrek> thats stupid as hell
[06:14] <neverblue> !language | MasterShrek
[06:14] <ubotu> MasterShrek: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:14] <Jekhar> Yes, vista sucks hardcore
[06:14] <matthew_> lol windows
[06:14] <MasterShrek> my apologies neverblue
[06:14] <neverblue> np
[06:14] <MasterShrek> =P
[06:15] <matthew_> I never used windows :)
[06:15] <joakim`> Anyone know?
[06:15] <neverblue> i have that frustration each time I use windows as well :/
[06:15] <MasterShrek> u can understand the frustration
[06:15] <matthew_> I heard it was pretty bad
[06:15] <MasterShrek> my sisters laptop has vista, and her pics are on it
[06:16] <neverblue> dannym, can you repair the cam in camorama?
[06:16] <neverblue> MasterShrek, could you keep it to a one-liner?
[06:16] <matthew_> my webcam worked automatically
[06:16] <matthew_> with kopete
[06:16] <neverblue> matthew_, everyone's setup is different
[06:16] <matthew_> after that everything saw it
[06:17] <dannym> neverblue - only the brightness slider works, but even if set at the max, its still too dark. the other sliders doesn't change anything even if i slide it back and forth
[06:17] <michaelramm> Greetings and Salivations to all
[06:17] <matthew_> <buys linux compatible hardware
[06:17] <neverblue> dannym, its a poor quality cam, if camorama cannot assist, not much I can do for you
[06:18] <neverblue> dannym, maybe get the newer cam working
[06:18] <dannym> neverblue - but its has clear and crisp video under windows.
[06:19] <neverblue> dannym, thats windows
[06:19] <dannym> neverblue - my newer cam is built-in on my laptop. its the bisoncam but its not being detected
[06:19] <neverblue> dannym ok, good to know
[06:20] <dannym> neverblue - do you know how can i install the bisoncam driver? or a way so it could be detected?
[06:20] <matthew_> try kopete
[06:21] <peepsalot> I want to try some of the games on this list ( http://www.tigsource.com/features/games1-10.html ), but can't get any to run under wine.  Is there a way to make wine more compatible with these things?
[06:21] <neverblue> dannym, google it
[06:21] <Flare> Does anybody know of a irc channel that can help me with C/C++
[06:22] <neverblue> Flare, maybe #linux
[06:22] <J-_> Flare: http://www.searchirc.com/
[06:22] <peepsalot> i figured I could at least get one or two of the games working, but no luck so far.
[06:22] <soothsayer> Flare: #c? #c++?
[06:22] <neverblue> peepsalot, check the #winehq topic, there is a link to supported games
[06:22] <soothsayer> Flare: On freenode
[06:23] <dannym> neverblue - i did but no luck there. shame...
[06:23] <Pici> Flare: ##c++
[06:23] <neverblue> dannym, also check the forums
[06:23] <dannym> neverblue - alright, i will
[06:23] <matthew_> try kopete
[06:24] <joakim`> ill ask again.. i had an hdd crash a couple of weeks ago so i had to install ubuntu temporarily on my other hdd. it took way longer to get the replacement hdd than i thought so i've set up ubuntu to the way i want it already now, pretty much. is there an easy way to install ubuntu properly (with separate partitions for /var /usr and so forth) but keep all my settings and programs and stuff?
[06:24] <`Matir> joakim`, why not just copy the data over?
[06:24] <joakim`> you can do that for everything?
[06:25] <joakim`> just seems too simple :)
[06:25] <mr_bean> hello
[06:25] <matthew_> I would just copy the hard drive
[06:25] <soothsayer> Can anyone recommend a light remote system monitoring setup? I want network usage and possibly CPU usage.
[06:25] <joakim`> ./home is obvious of course.. but with different kernels and stuff i mean, wont be any problems?
[06:25] <matthew_> actually I would just install ubuntu on the new one
[06:25] <Flare> thans
[06:26] <neverblue> joakim`, yes, you can setup partitions for any of those
[06:26] <matthew_> sooth have you tried top
[06:27] <matthew_> and netstat
[06:27] <soothsayer> matthew_: I want realtime *remote* monitoring
[06:27] <joakim`> yeah i know neverblue, what im wondering about is if itll be any problems coying over everything except... /boot i guess
[06:27] <`Matir> joakim`, shouldn't be, but you'll need to reinstall grub
[06:27] <joakim`> alright, thanks
[06:28] <soothsayer> matthew_: Something like what cacti does but much lighter weight
[06:28] <neverblue> joakim`, if you mount the 'second' system with a LIVECD, your OS is in RAM, giving you access to your entire system (on the HD)
[06:28] <joakim`> just wanted to check before doing it, never done something like that before
[06:28] <matthew_> I just use top and netstat
[06:28] <matthew_> 2 simple commands
[06:28] <neverblue> so you could just copy each over to the new system
[06:28] <neverblue> soothsayer, i use knetload
[06:28] <joakim`> neverblue, yup :)
[06:29] <soothsayer> neverblue: KDE-libs?
[06:29] <Stormx2> Hey folks. Anyone familiar with makefiles, etc? I'm compiling a webcam driver, and I've run into problems. I'd give the error, but I'm not really sure which is the error. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.ca/657104
[06:29] <neverblue> soothsayer, very helpful for monitoring current speeds, and quotas
[06:29] <neverblue> soothsayer, not sure :)
[06:29] <soothsayer> neverblue: It doesn't look remote to me
[06:29] <matthew_> <installing knetload to check it out :)
[06:30] <soothsayer> neverblue: I want to monitor another computer (through, say snmpd)
[06:30] <neverblue> oh, sorry, didnt realize
[06:30] <soothsayer> matthew_: It's a KDE app
[06:30] <matthew_> I know
[06:30] <matthew_> well now I do when I installed it lol
[06:30] <neverblue> soothsayer, vnc+knetload?
[06:30] <neverblue> :)
[06:31] <matthew_> but I monitor my server with ssh and top
[06:31] <matthew_> x11vnc is nice
[06:31] <soothsayer> matthew_: Takes too much space and too much effort. I want a gkrellm-ish thing
[06:32] <Ramy> how you can list the running processes ?
[06:32] <lutz_> sziasztok
[06:32] <Pici> Stormx2: Line 8 is the issue, make sure that the epcam folder has linux/config.h
[06:32] <ozzloy> Ramy: ps aux
[06:32] <ozzloy> i forgot my pw for the default keyring, how do i reset it?
[06:32] <lutz_> hungaryan?
[06:33] <faileas> !hu > lutz_
[06:33] <neverblue> Ramy, you can look at top
[06:33] <lutz_> yes
[06:33] <GNine> !c
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <GNine> !c++
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <`Matir> ozzloy, delete .gnome2/keyrings
[06:33] <Stormx2> Pici: it doesn't :(
[06:33] <GNine> dammit
[06:33] <neverblue> Ramy, also sudo ps -A
[06:33] <Pici> GNine: What are you looking for?
[06:33] <lutz_> hungarya?
[06:33] <ozzloy> `Matir: thanks
[06:33] <Stormx2> Pici: Yet other people have reported that this works on feisty, while I'm on gutsy. Maybe that's the issue.
[06:33] <Pici> !hu | lutz_
[06:33] <ubotu> lutz_: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[06:33] <Stormx2> !hu | lutz_
[06:33] <matthew_> telling ya ssh and netstat works fine
[06:33] <GNine> nah.. just curious what the bot would spit out
[06:34] <matthew_> it isn't that hard
[06:34] <hammedhaaret> Hi all you lovely ubuntu people.    how do i create a shortcut?  i can find the 'right-click create...' menu, but the command i normally start the app with just doesn't work in the shortcut..    its a wine app btw, steam.   and the command to run it in terminal is 'cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Valve/Steam && WINEDEBUG=-all wine steam'
[06:34] <Pici> !msgthebot > GNine (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[06:34] <Pici> Stormx2: Did you ./configure before you tried to make
[06:34] <lutz_> magyarul szeretnk beszlni
[06:34] <GNine> roger that
[06:35] <matthew_> hammed what do you want a shortcut for
[06:35] <zhegutian> hi ,i 'm new  here
[06:35] <zhegutian> this is the first time i have used ubuntu
[06:35] <matthew_> what's ubuntu
[06:35] <zhegutian> ubuntu linux
[06:36] <zhegutian> i'm using vmware
[06:36] <faileas> zhegutian: host or guest?
[06:36] <neverblue> hammedhaaret, try #winehq
[06:37] <matthew_> <can't keep up with all these free apps
[06:37] <neverblue> hehe @ matthew_
[06:38] <matthew_> holds breath
[06:39] <ubuntu__> wenas
[06:39] <ubuntu__> soy nuevo en ubuntu
[06:39] <Pici> !es | ubuntu__
[06:39] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:39] <matthew_> ubuntu tastes better with pizza
[06:39] <banyunet> hi
[06:39] <Aren> allo
[06:40] <matthew_> hello banyunet
[06:40] <dooglus> where can I find the documentation for 'mv'?
[06:40] <Aren> man mv
[06:40] <matthew_> man mv
[06:40] <nikron> Anyone know how I can get mod_security or something similiar for a feisty server?
[06:40] <matthew_> info mv :P
[06:40] <dooglus> Aren, matthew_: I tried that.  that tells me to 'info mv', but that doesn't work either - that gives the same
[06:40] <Aren> dooglus, the documentation for any command can usually be found with either "man <command>" or "info <command>"
[06:41] <Aren> dooglus, make sure you have your man/info pages installed
[06:41] <dooglus> Aren: yes, but not for 'mv', it seems
[06:41] <matthew_> dooglus what are you trying to do ?
[06:41] <dooglus> Aren: any idea which package the mv docs are in?
[06:41] <loswillios> hello
[06:41] <Aren> dooglus, not sure really
[06:41] <dooglus> matthew_: I'm trying to find the documentation for mv
[06:41] <Aren> loswillios, ello
[06:41] <loswillios> wtf is "audit" and why is it preventing me from printing?
[06:41] <Aren> dooglus, http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?mv
[06:41] <Aren> as a backup plan
[06:42] <matthew_> http://linux.die.net/man/1/mv
[06:42] <Pici> dooglus: coreutils package
[06:42] <GNine> it surprises me matthew didnt know about ubunty feisty fawn 7.04
[06:42] <dooglus> Aren: ah, I thought mv was part of fileutils
[06:42] <Pici> dooglus: I did dpkg -S /bin/mv
[06:43] <GNine> u must be on redhat9 , arent u
[06:43] <loswillios> this is in my logs: http://pastebin.ca/657118
[06:43] <matthew_> who GNine
[06:43] <loswillios> no idea whats wrong with audit and/or cups
[06:43] <tendertang> 
[06:43] <GNine> u , matthew
[06:43] <tendertang> 
[06:43] <Jekhar> nihongo
[06:44] <matthew_> I'm using 7.07 kubuntu now
[06:44] <Hobbsee> !ch | tendertang
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Hobbsee> bah
[06:44] <matthew_> 7.04
[06:44] <Pici> !cz | tendertang
[06:44] <ubotu> tendertang: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:44] <dooglus> Pici: right, but I can't find package coreutils-doc for the documentation :(
[06:44] <Pici> er
[06:44] <Pici> !zh | tendertang
[06:44] <ubotu> tendertang: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:44] <GNine> roger that matthew
[06:44] <matthew_> but Ive only been using ubuntu for about  year now
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Pici: ah, thanks.
[06:44] <Pici> Hobbsee: Yep yep
[06:44] <matthew_> before Ive used red hat for 5 years
[06:44] <Aren> loswillios, Audit is just saying that there's a security/program error
[06:44] <tendertang> oh, I know.
[06:45] <tendertang> thinks
[06:45] <matthew_> I think I used windows 98 for 8 hours
[06:45] <loswillios> Aren: oh. not audits fault then?
[06:45] <Aren> lol Audit's not actually a program/whatever
[06:45] <dooglus> Aren, matthew_: ok, I found it.  to see 'mv' docs, you type "info coreutils" and search for 'mv'...  looks like a bug to me
[06:45] <loswillios> Aren: sorry
[06:45] <Aren> loswillios, no need to appologise
[06:46] <myriadar> hello :) i have a little problem with teamspeak 2, my microphone wont work (thinkpad r60), i tried aoss /ts2
[06:46] <matthew_> i don't need mv docs lol
[06:46] <^Flash^> myriadar "Roger that"
[06:46] <WindowsRuls> Hello people
[06:46] <Aren> loswillios, check your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[06:46] <Aren> make sure you're actually allowed access
[06:46] <myriadar> has anyone tips?
[06:47] <Aren> myriadar, does it work in other software?
[06:47] <WindowsRuls> Halim ubuntu!
[06:47] <loswillios> Aren: it's 755 root:root and I'm starting cups as root too. I have already level=debug, but cups won't spit out on which entry in cupsd.conf it hangs
[06:47] <Aren> i.e. Audacity etc
[06:47] <matthew_> myriadar i just installed teamspeak the other day :)
[06:47] <myriadar> audacity, thats worth a try
[06:47] <matthew_> server and client
[06:48] <WindowsRuls> fuck ubuntu :)
[06:48] <windowsRules> hello @ all
[06:48] <windowsRules> fuck you WindowsRuls
[06:48] <dgjones> !ops | WIndowsRules
[06:48] <ubotu> WIndowsRules: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:48] <WindowsRuls> all bots are in @
[06:48] <GNine> i smell hater around here
[06:49] <Popof> hi
[06:49] <matthew_> people hate linux when they can't boot it
[06:49] <bruenig> !ops | windowsrul.*s
[06:49] <ubotu> windowsrul.*s: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[06:49] <uberspaced> anyway of figuring out what the easiest way to get postgresql client 8.2 is?
[06:49] <matthew_> windows rules lol
[06:49] <alesan> which command-line command can I give to end the current graphical session?
[06:49] <loswillios> Aren: I haven't fiddled with cupsd.conf myself, the default 1.2.8 just won't start
[06:49] <alesan> should I kill something?
[06:49] <Hobbsee> bruenig: ?
[06:49] <Aren> loswillios, i'm looking into it for you
[06:50] <bruenig> Hobbsee, needed regex to get them both
[06:50] <loswillios> Aren: thanks. do you need anything?
[06:50] <bruenig> I am on serious lag so maybe that is the question
[06:50] <myriadar> audacity doesnt work, too :/
[06:50] <Aren> loswillios, not yet, I'm just seeing if it's a known bug first
[06:50] <soothsayer> alesan: kill gnome-session
[06:50] <soothsayer> alesan: ctrl-alt-backspace kills the X server
[06:50] <alesan> soothsayer, I need it in a script
[06:51] <Aren> loswillios, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/131952
[06:51] <alesan> is killall gnome-session ok then? I would like a "soft" logout if possible :)
[06:51] <dooglus> matthew_: I wanted the mv docs to find the address for reporting bugs
[06:51] <Popof> does anyone know how to do in order to have always the same mount point for each partition of my usb disk ? beacause the partitions are on disk-1 or disk but never the same data on the same place
[06:51] <GNine> i feel so much more integrated with my puter now.  granted it takes some more reading and research than standard windows problem solving .. but not nearly as exciting
[06:51] <matthew_> that's cool
[06:52] <matthew_> GNine my friends make fun of me because I don't know how to use windows :|
[06:52] <soothsayer> alesan: Sounds like a bad idea. I don't think it will send HUP signals to all the applications
[06:52] <loswillios> Aren: thanks. should I delete etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd as a workaround?
[06:52] <lutz_> #fixtv
[06:52] <soothsayer> alesan: What are you trying to do?
[06:53] <Aren> loswillios, http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-618209.html
[06:53] <Aren> loswillios, that archived forum discusses some workarounds I think
[06:53] <alesan> soothsayer, in this script I change gdm config to enable Xdmcp. I need to restart gdm for this. before I restart it I would like to logout the user in a graceful manner
[06:53] <matthew_> 1118 people in here holy crap
[06:53] <soothsayer> alesan: I'm sure there is a way to execute a logout from gnome but I'm not sure what it is
[06:53] <PriceChild> !offtopic | matthew_
[06:53] <ubotu> matthew_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:53] <zirra-meeting> Ok, I'm back.
[06:54] <zirra-meeting> Arafangion: My X still isn't starting up now.
[06:54] <myriadar> anyone knows a solution for me not having a microphone with feisty fawn (ibm notebook)
[06:54] <soothsayer> alesan: Ah. I don't know. I think your best bet is #gnome
[06:54] <Aren> myriadar, check your mixer
[06:54] <GNine> i say.. if u know windows  u dont know much.. unix based systems is where u turn from email reader to computer user
[06:54] <Aren> see if the microphone is muted
[06:54] <alesan> soothsayer, thanks :)
[06:55] <rockets> Is torrentflux dead?
[06:55] <bruenig> buy one
[06:56] <bruenig> GNine, some would insert ubuntu where you put windows
[06:56] <loswillios> Aren: that works, thanks! unfortunately my printer still doesn't work
[06:56] <Aren> loswillios, haha oh well, back to troubleshooting
[06:56] <GNine> thats cuz they dont know
[06:56] <myriadar> at sound preferences everything looks fine, aren
[06:57] <Aren> myriadar, I'm going to assume that you're using Alsa
[06:57] <Aren> can you open up a terminal window
[06:57] <myriadar> yes
[06:57] <myriadar> yes2
[06:57] <Aren> sudo alsamixer
[06:57] <bruenig> GNine, have you used other distros?
[06:57] <Aren> myriadar, you should see lots of coloured bars being shown
[06:57] <loswillios> Aren: maybe you can give me a hint: it worked with 7.04, then I dist-upgraded to 7.10 and it stopped working. I reverted the {cups,gutenprint}-stuff back to previous versions. Doesn't work either
[06:57] <myriadar> mic has an empty bar with MM, aren
[06:57] <daren> Hi
[06:58] <GNine> windows , for years .. now feisty .. since couple of days ago.  full switch too
[06:58] <Aren> myriadar, MM means muted
[06:58] <daren> how can I unload a module ?
[06:58] <Aren> myriadar, press M to unmute
[06:58] <Aren> loswillios, honestly I'm not too sure what's going on
[06:58] <myriadar> with pressing "m" i can mute master, aren
[06:58] <myriadar> aww moment
[06:58] <Aren> myriadar, make sure you've got the microphone selected first
[06:59] <loswillios> Aren: When I sent a job to the Brother HL-2030, it get's noisy and some LEDs are lighter but doesn't print anything. :/
[06:59] <myriadar> <-- jerk ^^
[06:59] <loswillios> Aren: thanks for your help anyways
[06:59] <Aren> loswillios, no worries, I"m actually trying to get network printing happening here
[06:59] <Aren> the jobs get sent, but not processed
[06:59] <myriadar> thx, aren, how do i close alsamixer?
[06:59] <loswillios> Aren: yeah
[06:59] <Aren> myriadar, press escape
[06:59] <Stormx2> How do I extract a .tar.bz2 from command line?
[07:00] <Aren> tar jxvf *.tar.bz2
[07:00] <Aren> just replace the * with the filename
[07:00] <jrib> Stormx2: tar xf  is enough
[07:00] <loswillios> Aren: is there a way of cleanly downgrading the system to 7.06? I guess not?
[07:00] <Aren> jrib, it's a bz2 though, you need the J
[07:00] <loswillios> err, 7.04
[07:00] <shira> hi, I get a message "The CUPS server could not be contacted" when I try to open Systems->Printer. How would I start the CUPS deamon?
[07:00] <Aren> loswillios, probably not
[07:01] <Aren> shira, at the console/terminal
[07:01] <southafrikanse> hello does anyone know how to remove the default key management?
[07:01] <Aren> type /etc/init.d/cupsd start
[07:01] <zirra-meeting> Sigh.  Can anyone help me fix X on my laptop?  I can't get it working again.
[07:01] <Aren> shira, make sure you do it either as root, or sudo it
[07:01] <Aren> zirra-meeting, what's happened to your X??
[07:02] <shira> "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start" gets "command not found"
[07:02] <GNine> my nvidia card performs way better on ubuntu that it did on windows
[07:02] <shira> it usually works..
[07:02] <shira> not the command, printing itself
[07:02] <maxagaz> What is the more stable tool to upload 5163 files and 32 MB od datas over the internet ?
[07:02] <Aren> shira, strange
[07:02] <maxagaz> s/od/of
[07:02] <Aren> shira, did you change the cups configuration?
[07:02] <faileas> maxagaz: rsync?
[07:02] <bulmer> shira: well look at /etc/init.d/  and see if there is that cupsd
[07:02] <smithers> just downloaded the firefox 2 and i can't get it to install because dapper says that its already has the latest version. should i uninstall?
[07:02] <shira> not manually
[07:02] <zirra-meeting> Aren: It tells me it Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module, and that screens were found but none are usable.
[07:02] <Aren> it might now be starting up because of an error in the config file
[07:03] <Aren> zirra-meeting, reinstall the nvidia drivers
[07:03] <maxagaz> faileas: ok, i'll try it
[07:03] <Aren> might not be starting*
[07:03] <GNine> perform a glx install there
[07:03] <GNine> and enable
[07:03] <shira> Aren, there is cupsys
[07:03] <zirra-meeting> I'll try that now.
[07:03] <Aren> I've never used it =S
[07:03] <shira> Aren, and only cupsys, cupd doesn't exist
[07:03] <Aren> shira, thats very strange
[07:04] <shira> let me try a reboot
[07:04] <southafrikanse> what is key management when I start Ubuntu?
[07:04] <bulmer> shira then its cupsys not cupsd.. so do  /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[07:05] <loswillios> no error logs :/
[07:05] <myriadar> ok, now mic works in that way that i can hear myself in my headset
[07:05] <Aren> southafrikanse, what do you mean by key management?
[07:05] <shadowhywind> does anyone know what the nosmp boot option does
[07:05] <Aren> shadowhywind, disables the use of SMP
[07:05] <MasterShrek> shadowhywind, so the kernel doesnt load smp support
[07:05] <Aren> SMP meaning either hyperthreading or dual core etc
[07:05] <sahil> anyone know why my gaim wont connect to my MSN account anymore?
[07:05] <smithers> how would i go about installing the latest version of firefox?
[07:05] <maxagaz> faileas: does it work with ftp ?
[07:05] <GNine> Zirra: also i suggest u make sure ur pci bus id is correctly stated
[07:06] <MasterShrek> smp = symmetric multi-core processing (dual-core)
[07:06] <faileas> maxagaz: no
[07:06] <faileas> its a seperate protocol
[07:06] <shadowhywind> dang
[07:06] <Harkins> smithers: Run synaptic, click 'Mark All Upgrades', click 'Apply'. Wait a while for it install new versions of everything.
[07:06] <shadowhywind> MasterShrek i am trying to get hibernation to work, and it only seams to work when i add the nosmp option
[07:07] <MasterShrek> strange shadowhywind, do you have a dual-core processor?
[07:07] <shadowhywind> MasterShrek yes
[07:07] <zirra-meeting> reinstalling it worked.
[07:07] <zirra-meeting> odd.
[07:07] <Harkins> Is it possible to install Ubuntu to a loopback-mounted filesystem on a running Ubuntu machine? All the directions I find start "Boot the install CD..."
[07:07] <southafrikanse> Aren: When I start Ubuntu. I log in to my session. Then, for me to access the Internet I have to put a default key because my wireless device is restricted. How can I remove this window from starting?
[07:07] <Aren> zirra-meeting, you probably recently upgraded your kernel
[07:07] <myriadar> ok, now mic works in that way that i can hear myself in my headset <-- any hints? sorry for my problem ;(
[07:08] <myriadar> in teamspeak2 with oss chosen as input device it doesnt work
[07:08] <smithers> Harkins: well i just did that but it just reinstalled ver 1.5, i downloaded ver 2 from the firefox site but when i uninstalled and tried to install from the page i downloaded it went back and reinstalled 1.5. i use the command sudo apt-get install firefox and firefox.tar.gz
[07:08] <nikron> How do you disable directory listing in apache2?
[07:08] <palintheus> southafrikanse: I found a link to fix this a week or 2 ago, give me second and Ill try to find it
[07:08] <MasterShrek> i dunno shadowhywind, never use hibernate
[07:08] <southafrikanse> palintheus: Ok
[07:08] <Harkins> smithers: This is an older install of Ubuntu, then?
[07:08] <Symmetria> hrm, anyone got any good hints on finding X windows mode lines?
[07:09] <zirra-meeting> Aren: nope.
[07:09] <zirra-meeting> Haven't upgraded anything...
[07:09] <zirra-meeting> except the alsa drivers.
[07:09] <smithers> Harkins: Oh yeah, dapper is I'm using
[07:09] <Aren> zirra-meeting, very strange indeed
[07:10] <GNine> shadow: cant u just use lock-screen with a password protected screen saver?
[07:10] <Harkins> smithers: Run 'update-manager -c' to get up to the current version of Ubuntu. This will take probably 1-2h to download and install all the updates.
[07:10] <maxagaz> What is the most stable tool to upload 5163 files and 32 MB of datas on an unstable FTP server ? Knowing that Filezilla, FireFTP and yafc can't do the job...
[07:10] <myriadar> sigh, so i use winxp for teamspeak.. it's just too complicated getting this work :/
[07:11] <Harkins> maxagaz: rsync is the right tool for that job, if you have ssh access as well
[07:11] <maxagaz> Harkins: i don't
[07:11] <smithers> Harkins: Will it try and update me to ver 7 or something other?
[07:11] <bjron> anyone know if it's possible to eject the live CD once you've booted from it (without shutting down of course)
[07:11] <Harkins> smithers: Yes
[07:11] <GNine> in general i think windows is more gamer friendly for all the support for it.  oh well
[07:12] <palintheus> southafrikanse: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[07:12] <Harkins> bjron: The install will read a lot of packages from the CD, so you'll need to keep it in.
[07:12] <Trae> wow....  I tried man X  and it wasn't present.
[07:12] <Harkins> bjorn: Oh, live cd. Got me.
[07:12] <Harkins> Trae: man xorg
[07:12] <Aren> it's a captial X
[07:12] <southafrikanse> thank you palintheus. I'll give a shot
[07:12] <Aren> org
[07:12] <Aren> lol
[07:12] <bjron> Harkins: yea I only have one drive though and I want to burn a CD :P
[07:12] <Aren> Xorg
[07:12] <palintheus> southafrikanse: it worked for me
[07:12] <Harkins> bjron: give it a shot
[07:12] <myriadar> i mean i'm impressed how ubuntu improved in things like wlan and external usb-drives
[07:13] <palintheus> southafrikanse: only thing is your keyring and login password have to be the same
[07:13] <bjron> well, can't just press the eject button ...
[07:13] <Trae> I liked the old XFree86 description of what X was
[07:13] <smithers> Harkins: I rather stick with Dapper until I learn how to fully use it and then I'll make the transition to upgrade. But I believe I figured out what was going on. Its a tar.gz file and I was installing it incorrectly, I believe I found the right method, I think. We will see.
[07:13] <MasterShrek> bjron, i think there may be a kernel parameter you can pass before you boot the livecd
[07:13] <ismell> ello
[07:13] <myriadar> but on areas like tv-capture and audio-stuff it's not very userfriendly
[07:13] <myriadar> thanks for help anyway :) cu
[07:14] <bjron> MasterShrek: any idea what that might be?
[07:14] <MasterShrek> ill find out for ya
[07:14] <Harkins> smithers: That may or may not work without the supporting packages. You'd do well to upgrade soon for many reasons, including security.
[07:15] <southafrikanse> palintheus: Oh
[07:15] <smithers> Harkins: Thanks
[07:15] <southafrikanse> palintheus: Then I'll have to reset it xD
[07:15] <palintheus> southafrikanse: I did to, but to me it was worth to not have to enter 2 passwords on loging
[07:16] <palintheus> *login
[07:16] <southafrikanse> palintheus: that it is what I want
[07:16] <MasterShrek> bjron, maybe not, im pretty sure it was possible, maybe on a gentoo livecd or something though
[07:17] <MasterShrek> it was 'toram' or something, loaded the os into the ram to free up the drive i think
[07:17] <thepat20> can someone help me install Java?
[07:17] <MasterShrek> !java | thepat20
[07:17] <ubotu> thepat20: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[07:17] <eifzon> How do I change my fonts in gnome?
[07:17] <ctothej> I'm looking for a way to have seemless encryption of a logical volume for data. What is the best way to achieve this?
[07:17] <MasterShrek> eifzon, system>preferences>font
[07:17] <Harkins> eifzon: run gnome-control-center
[07:18] <bjron> MasterShrek: yea, diggint through launchpad it looks like any way I force things to eject will break the system... I'll keep digging for that kernel param
[07:18] <thepat20> MasterShrek i tried that, but i am confused, and the instructions did not match. I am doing something wrong but i dont know what it is
[07:19] <eifzon> and how do i install fonts?
[07:19] <MasterShrek> !fonts | eifzon
[07:19] <ubotu> eifzon: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:19] <southafrikanse> palintheus: how can I edit this file? Edit the /etc/pam.d/gdm
[07:20] <southafrikanse> from the terminal?
[07:20] <dinamizador> ola
[07:20] <MasterShrek> sudo nano /path/to/file
[07:20] <palintheus> southafrikanse: gksudo gedit /etc/pam.d/gdm
[07:20] <MasterShrek> southafrikanse, be careful though
[07:20] <MasterShrek> dont do anything if you dont know what its going to do
[07:20] <zirra-meeting> Anyone have any experience with an HP Pavilion and getting sound to work on ubuntu?  I've followed the directions I can find on the web but it doesnt seem to be working still.
[07:20] <speaker219> Does anyone know if it's possible to run a WindowsXP system that is already installed on another partition inside of linux in a virtual machine?
[07:20] <ismell> what package would i install to get the strings command ?
[07:20] <southafrikanse> MasterShrek: due?
[07:21] <MasterShrek> ?
[07:21] <speaker219> Is it possible?
[07:21] <MasterShrek> i believe so speaker219
[07:21] <speaker219> how?
[07:21] <MasterShrek> heh
[07:21] <MasterShrek> vmware i spose
[07:21] <eifzon> I put my new fonts into my fonts map but cant see em there
[07:21] <speaker219> yes but how do i get it to boot the partiton i already have
[07:22] <MasterShrek> add a virtual hard drive as a physical partition
[07:22] <speaker219> ok, thanks (noob = me) let me go try it
[07:22] <MasterShrek> you run the risk of messing up your windows install speaker219
[07:22] <Ecalix> anybody know why in ubuntu you cant open a file from a network share directly. example would be double clicking a .psd file to open in gimp.
[07:23] <southafrikanse> palintheus: I'm going to reboot to see if it works...
[07:23] <speaker219> I do, mastershrek? how?
[07:23] <palintheus> southafrikanse: it should if you followed the directions
[07:23] <MasterShrek> i dunno, theres always that chance though, that windows partition was not made to boot that way
[07:24] <owndarwin> Hi
[07:24] <owndarwin> Here iaam
[07:24] <owndarwin> :D
[07:24] <MasterShrek> im just saying, if it screws it up, dont cry to me about it =P
[07:24] <smithers> how do i install tar.gz files?
[07:24] <Aren> smithers, you don't
[07:24] <Aren> they're usually source files
[07:25] <Aren> smithers try this
[07:25] <Aren> tar zxf filename.tar.gz
[07:25] <Aren> it will extract the tarball
[07:26] <Aren> then cd into the tarball and see if it has a Makefile or a configure file
[07:26] <Aren> if it's got a configure file, do a ./configure
[07:26] <Aren> then "make"
[07:27] <Aren> and if you're lucky, a "make install" will put whatever you're trying to install into the right place
[07:27] <Aren> if you only have a Makefile in the directory
[07:27] <Aren> try typing "make"
[07:27] <southafrikanse> palintheus: It worked xD. Thanks for the info
[07:27] <Aren> if you're lucky, it will just compile, then you can "make install"
[07:27] <smithers> i don't believe i have a ./configure file but let me check
[07:27] <choudesh> Question - Is there any implementation of a "terminal server" for linux...basicly - I want X people to connect to this machine and each get there own GUI. VNC doesn't work since I don't want to specify which port they get
[07:27] <Aren> sometimes it will just spit out instructions on how to complete the installation
[07:27] <lokkilololo> hi ppl. I have a problem with the acx111 driver in ubuntu 7.04. It's supposed to be working by default if u disable networkmanager. But my problem is with the firmware loading, when i try modprobe acx in dmesg aoutput says: [  216.632000]  requesting firmware image 'tiacx111cFF' [  216.744000]  acx: firmware image 'tiacx111cFF' was not provided. Check your hotplug scripts [  216.744000]  requesting firmware image 'tiacx111' [  216.748000]  acx
[07:27] <Aren> smithers, best bet is to take a look at the README, or INSTALL file included in the tarball archive
[07:28] <palintheus> southafrikanse: np, glad to help
[07:28] <afief> shouldn't RECOVERY MODE ask for a password before giving me root access to the machine?!
[07:28] <_WS_> why should it?
[07:28] <PriceChild> afief, if someone has physical access to your machine, they can get root regardless
[07:29] <smithers> cd aren thanks
[07:29] <PriceChild> afief, unless you encrypt your entire partitions
[07:29] <smithers> aren thanks
[07:29] <_WS_> the root environment from recovery disc just utilizes the hardware attached
[07:29] <_WS_> yeah
[07:29] <Aren> smithers, no worries
[07:29] <afief> PriceChild, I know my little brothers can't
[07:29] <bulmer> choudesh: you have to install LTSP
[07:29] <PriceChild> afief, add a grub password or something?
[07:30] <choudesh> bulmer, does this work? I thought LTSP was only for thinclients to boot from
[07:30] <afief> PriceChild, but they got accounts on this machine which they should be able to access
[07:30] <_WS_> why shouldn't they be able to access them?
[07:30] <choudesh> bulmer, I need them to be able to use Window's remote desktop so I need an RDP implmenation on top of this
[07:30] <PriceChild> afief, grub password only stops you changing boot... it will go into first choice automatically without the pass
[07:30] <_WS_> if you have physical access to something that is not encrypted, then why shouldn't you be able to?
[07:31] <bulmer> choudesh: well windows is different, you need a license for that
[07:31] <apocalypti> how do i install tarballs?
[07:31] <choudesh> bulmer, ?
[07:31] <PriceChild> !compile | apocalypti
[07:31] <ubotu> apocalypti: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:31] <PriceChild> apocalypti, and you shouldn't have to
[07:31] <_WS_> first you have to clean the tar off, then you can use them :)
[07:31] <afief> _WS_, the obvious reason: not everybody is a computer geek who will boot into a liveCD, mount the partitions and change stuff, but my brothers sure did see "sudo apt-get install" often enough by now
[07:31] <bulmer> choudesh: rdp is for windows not for linux( uses tcp/ip)
[07:31] <choudesh> bulmer, I understand
[07:32] <lokkilololo> hi ppl. I have a problem with the acx111 driver in ubuntu 7.04. It's supposed to be working by default if u disable networkmanager. But my problem is with the firmware loading, when i try modprobe acx in dmesg aoutput says: [  216.632000]  requesting firmware image 'tiacx111cFF' [  216.744000]  acx: firmware image 'tiacx111cFF' was not provided. Check your hotplug scripts [  216.744000]  requesting firmware image 'tiacx111' [  216.748000]  acx
[07:32] <choudesh> bulmer, I still need a way for Windows clients to connect to a linux box and they each have their own GUI
[07:32] <_WS_> afief, what if your system crashed and you needed to get into accounts, and didn't remember your old passwords?
[07:32] <_WS_> physical access to machines is meant to be utilized that way
[07:32] <bulmer> choudesh in that case, there are plenty of X windows client to be used in windoz one is Freenx to access Xwindow of linux
[07:32] <_WS_> recovery is just a different user environment that allows you full access to your hardware
[07:33] <Jordan_U> afief, Set a BIOS and / or GRUB password
[07:33] <choudesh> bullgard4, I understand that - but I need them to each have their own GUI without predefining them.
[07:33] <afief> _WS_, isn't the point of Linux "we won't keep you from doing stupid things like rm -rf /"?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> afief, Or if all you are worried about is your brother, just remove the recovery mode option at boot
[07:34] <_WS_> no
[07:34] <bulmer> choudesh: each user that wants to log on to linux has its own user account
[07:34] <_WS_> the point of linux is you have the power to customize anything in any way you want
[07:34] <PriceChild> afief, please don't paste commands like that in here
[07:34] <bullgard4> choudesh: Did you mean me?
[07:34] <bulmer> afief: you cant do that unless you are root
[07:34] <choudesh> bullgard4, sorry. I meant bulmer
[07:34] <choudesh> bulmer, Yes. I pull these from LDAP.
[07:34] <svamp23> hi need help with an USB device
[07:35] <afief> bulmer, okay replace / with ~, still devastating effect for that user
[07:35] <Ecalix> anybody know why in ubuntu you cant open a file from a network share directly. example would be double clicking a .psd file to open in gimp.
[07:35] <bulmer> choudesh: you're throwing words around ...
[07:35] <svamp23> dmesg says that the device is connected to ttyUSB0 and then that it is disconnected from ttyUSB0 ? what is wrong?
[07:36] <speaker219> ubotu
[07:36] <svamp23> i get this output between the connection and disconnection -- usbfs: interface 0 claimed by ftdi_sio while 'brltty' sets config #1
[07:37] <lokkilololo> hi ppl. I have a problem with the acx111 driver in ubuntu 7.04. It's supposed to be working by default if u disable networkmanager. But my problem is with the firmware loading, when i try modprobe acx in dmesg aoutput says: [  216.632000]  requesting firmware image 'tiacx111cFF' [  216.744000]  acx: firmware image 'tiacx111cFF' was not provided. Check your hotplug scripts [  216.744000]  requesting firmware image 'tiacx111' [  216.748000]  acx
[07:37] <lokkilololo> am i spamming? sry for that...
[07:37] <Aren> lokkilololo, seems like you haven't provided the firmware image for it lol
[07:37] <lokkilololo> Aren ;)
[07:37] <Jordan_U> lokkilololo, If it is like broadcom cards you need to get the firmware and put it in /lib/firmware
[07:38] <nilsgodecke> hi everybody
[07:38] <GNine> aren: u genius.. mind telling him the how to
[07:38] <claus> hi nils
[07:38] <lokkilololo> the firmware is there but the driver dosent seem to see it
[07:38] <nilsgodecke> hi claus
[07:38] <_WS_> linux is just a kernel, other projects such as sudo limit restrictions, and other projects even do encryption such as openssl
[07:38] <_WS_> but it doesn't just do everything automatically for you
[07:39] <Aren> GNine, got no idea where the how-to's are
[07:39] <kefka> !virtualbox
[07:39] <_WS_> encryption slows down a system, so your system is not automatically encrypting everything for you
[07:39] <Sunnyboi14> Hello Everyone!
[07:39] <lokkilololo> the firmware and the driver gets installed with linux-restricted-modules
[07:39] <_WS_> if you want to disable access to things you will have to customize it yourself
[07:39] <kefka> !vmware
[07:39] <nilsgodecke> is here annybody who can help me whit some networking problems?
[07:39] <_WS_> there are some kits that help you with them
[07:39] <_WS_> for shell hosting companies etc.
[07:39] <lokkilololo> so i dont have to mess with this i think
[07:39] <kefka> meh... ubotu hates me
[07:39] <rafael_> opa
[07:39] <Sunnyboi14> hello, can anyone tell me how i can do a system restore?
[07:39] <Aren> kefka, here he is
[07:39] <kefka> or not
[07:39] <Stev> nilsgodecke: ask :P
[07:39] <kefka> -heh
[07:39] <Jordan_U> lokkilololo, Are you sure that the firmware is included in linux-restricted-modules?
[07:40] <rafael_> :)
[07:40] <kefka> !virtualbox
[07:40] <rafael_> agora sim
[07:40] <bulmer> lokkilololo: do you have a  /lib/firmware/`uname -r`/acx/default  directory?
[07:40] <Alloosh> Iam very pissed off with ubuntu, I cant read my damn DVD. what to do, should I get another OS?
[07:40] <Sunnyboi14> YES!
[07:40] <lokkilololo> bulmer yes
[07:40] <rafael_> cade vez melhos
[07:40] <Sunnyboi14> ummmm
[07:40] <lufis> Alloosh: a video dvd?
[07:40] <Sunnyboi14> can anyone tell me how to restore my pc?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, What exactly do you want to do ?
[07:40] <Mishu> I have a script file for starting asterisk callback-demon in /etc/init.d But it doesn't executes one my pc reboot also i need to run it using ./nameofile, i can't run it just like nameoffile. What i need to do?
[07:40] <Sunnyboi14> restore my pc
[07:40] <rafael_> :)
[07:40] <Sunnyboi14> i want to restore me pc
[07:40] <Sunnyboi14> how?
[07:40] <kefka> !virtualbox
[07:40] <bulmer> lokkilololo: and where are those contents symbolic linked to?
[07:40] <snowy> =\ i asked a question earlier on the forums apprently no one knows the cause D:
[07:41] <Sunnyboi14> when the dell screen started, i clicked control f11, but nothing happened
[07:41] <Alloosh> lufis: no, any dvd, it works fine with some dvd and with others I just cant see anything in the drive
[07:41] <GNine> i have a firmware error showing up when checking my router too.. ha! i guess thats one thing to check now
[07:41] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:41] <punkboy_> hi im punk boy my country in POLAND
[07:41] <kefka> whee, finally
[07:41] <lufis> Alloosh: what drive?
[07:41] <rafael_>  f
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, Did something specific break, are you trying to go back to older configs for a certain application... ?
[07:41] <kefka> ubotu had to restart?
[07:41] <Sunnyboi14> is there a command is ubuntu that restores my pc to factory settings?
[07:41] <Sunnyboi14> i want to go back to windows
[07:41] <lufis> Sunnyboi14: ...no
[07:41] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:41] <Toddler> dont
[07:41] <Sunnyboi14> what?
[07:41] <Alloosh> DVD drive, when I insert a dvd I see the icon on the desktop and its fine, with others I dont get even get the icon
[07:41] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, If you want to go back to windows just install windows with a windows install CD
[07:41] <lufis> Sunnyboi14: windows and linux are two different platforms, one does not affect the other
[07:41] <Sunnyboi14> there is an error.
[07:41] <palintheus> Sunnyboi14: if grub was installed it more than likely replaced the dell boot loader
[07:42] <paotzu> alloosh: data dvds or video dvds
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about had to restart? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> yes
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> it did
[07:42] <Aren> Sunnyboi14, that control F11 only works if you still have the recovery partition on the drive methinks
[07:42] <Alloosh> data and video.
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> how do i get it to boot again?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, Do you have a windows install CD?
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> yes
[07:42] <lufis> Alloosh: No, what brand/model of drive?
[07:42] <paotzu> alloosh: weird
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> i tried that
[07:42] <zirra-meeting> OK, my usb mouse is kind of odd in X... for some reason it seems a little... laggy.  Like if I try and select text, it selects a few lines below where I started when I click and drag down.
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> but it didnt work
[07:42] <Aren> Sunnyboi14, what was the error?
[07:42] <Alloosh> LG
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, Boot from it, go to recovery mode, run fixmbr
[07:42] <Sunnyboi14> said it couldnt find hard disks or something
[07:42] <lokkilololo> the acx directory in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` includes diferent firmware versions, and the default one is the one used in the default directory witch is smlinked to the correct 1.2.1.34 firmware directory
[07:42] <lufis> Alloosh: are you sure it's not the hardware?
[07:42] <yeniklasor> How can I learn my IP from terminal ?
[07:42] <nilsgodecke> i have a old ciso wlan card that can not connect to the internet trough my accespoint, the card is recognised by ubuntu and can see the accespoint. i have removed the every securety from the accespoint, but it looks like that the card can't connect to the accespoint.
[07:42] <Stev> Sunnyboi14: you're not "restoring" anything, if you want windows just install it back, if you have a laptop then you might have a rescue partition, with some software to restore an image of your hd
[07:43] <snowy> my terminal stopped working all together and i dont know the cause of it >.<
[07:43] <Aren> Sunnyboi14, make sure to remove the partitions of linux using the ubuntu installer before trying to go back to windows
[07:43] <Mishu> I have a script file for starting asterisk callback-demon in /etc/init.d But it doesn't executes one my pc reboot also i need to run it using ./nameofile, i can't run it just like nameoffile. What i need to do?
[07:43] <Sunnyboi14> when i click on recovery mode, the error comes up
[07:43] <lokkilololo> i am trully confused
[07:43] <Alloosh> Iam 100% sure, because it plays some and not play others
[07:43] <svamp23> is this a bug in UBUNTU -- usbfs: interface 0 claimed by ftdi_sio while 'brltty' sets config #1 -- it connects and disconnets a USB device ?
[07:43] <lufis> yeniklasor: ifconfig
[07:43] <Aren> the Windows install disk can't read harddisks that have been partitioned by linux sometimes
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, That is not caused by Ubuntu, that is a hardware problem or a bug in windows
[07:43] <Sunnyboi14> even though i installed it on an external HD?
[07:43] <Sunnyboi14> i already got everything off my External Hard drive
[07:43] <paotzu> sunnyboi14: what problems are you having in ubuntu that you want to wipe the drive
[07:43] <GNine> sunny: there r 2 ways of gettin rid of ubuntu. delete the partition its in. or reinstall.  but be careful how u go about that
[07:43] <directLink> yeniklasor: ifconfig, and then you see the ip of the different network devices
[07:43] <Sunnyboi14> it is stupid
[07:43] <boris_> i got ubuntu feisty and i get error "The Composite extension is not available." error when i try to start Desktop Effects feature
[07:43] <Sunnyboi14> i just want to go back to windows
[07:44] <snowy> same here =\
[07:44] <boris_> desktop effects were working 2 days ago
[07:44] <paotzu> this channel is not really for installing windows
[07:44] <snowy> every since i tried to install the eye toy webcam ubuntu has been messing up
[07:44] <Nem> Does anyone know how to see if a freenode Nick has been inactive for X number of days?
[07:44] <Sunnyboi14> i know
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Sunnyboi14, Again, this is a bug in the windows installer, not with Ubuntu, you might try ##windows
[07:44] <Sunnyboi14> We
[07:44] <lokkilololo> bulmer the symbolic links of the default directory are correctly linked to the 1.2.1.34 directory witch includes the correct firmware version
[07:45] <yeniklasor> directLink : No local ip, I m talking about real IP like a website IP
[07:45] <zirra-meeting> OK, my usb mouse is kind of odd in X... for some reason it seems a little... laggy.  Like if I try and select text, it selects a few lines below where I started when I click and drag down.  Can anyone tell me how to fix it?
[07:45] <directLink> yeniklasor: goto whatismyip.com
[07:45] <bulmer> lokkilololo: there are several there..can you paste the dir contents on pastebin?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> yeniklasor, ifconfig
[07:46] <shut-> why does ubuntu lag for me
[07:46] <lokkilololo> bulmer am not used to pastebin can i post them here (dirs only not to long) ?
[07:46] <lufis> yeniklasor: ping will show you websites' servers' ip
[07:46] <yeniklasor> no whatismyip.com, I wanna learn it from terminal
[07:46] <Jordan_U> shut-, You are most likely using an ATI card
[07:46] <yeniklasor> But I wanna see my ip
[07:46] <Jordan_U> yeniklasor, ifconfig
[07:46] <shut-> ATI?
[07:46] <lufis> yeniklasor: Then use ifconfig...
[07:46] <bulmer> lokkilololo: they'll ban you if you paste too long in this channel
[07:47] <bulmer> lokkilololo: get used to using pastebin
[07:47] <alexandre_> can someone help me i'm new to linux and i want to install java to access a website but the file is a .bin and i haven't been able to uncompress it
[07:47] <GNine> can someone tell zirra how to check his mouse config settings
[07:47] <lokkilololo> bulmer output of ls /lib/firmware/2.6.20-16-generic/acx/ 0.1.0.11  0.4.11.9  1.0.9     1.2.1.34  1.9.8.b   default 0.4.11.4  1.0.7     1.2.0.30  1.7.0     2.3.1.31
[07:47] <GNine> heheh
[07:47] <directLink> yeniklasor: maybe use wgetto download whatismyip.com, and then use nano to see html code...?
[07:47] <lufis> alexandre_: What version of ubuntu?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> alexandre_, Just install it with Add/Remove instead
[07:47] <bulmer> lokkilololo: that makes it hard for me to read..use a pastebin
[07:47] <shut-> alex
[07:47] <alexandre_> 7.04
[07:47] <lokkilololo> bulmer ok
[07:47] <Alloosh> going to the store to give them a speech about the drive
[07:48] <shut-> do /dirtojava/file.bin
[07:48] <lufis> alexandre_: Go to Applications > Add/Remove
[07:48] <snowy> =\ still no one has awnsered my question on the boards... its been 14 hours lol
[07:48] <shut-> :S
[07:48] <zirra-meeting> Actually the USB mouse isn't jumpy, it just doesn't seem to register left click and drags in firefox.  (and possibly elsewhere).
[07:49] <Jordan_U> shut-, Most people who ask questions like that don't know that there is a package in the repos, and installing from the repos is usually a better idea
[07:49] <lufis> alexandre_: There yet?
[07:49] <alexandre_> yes
[07:49] <lokkilololo> bulmer http://pastebin.com/d73ae7c77
[07:49] <lufis> alexandre_: Ok, at the top select "All available applications"
[07:49] <alexandre_> ok
[07:49] <lufis> alexandre_: Then type java in the search bar
[07:49] <bulmer> lokkilololo: use ls -la please so i can see the symlinks
[07:50] <PaulEU> hello!
[07:50] <PaulEU> where is configuration file for xterm terminal ?
[07:51] <lufis> alexandre_: There?
[07:51] <PaulEU> I'd like to change default font
[07:51] <alexandre_> yes this is downloading
[07:51] <lufis> ok
[07:51] <svamp23> how do i update kernel in ubuntu
[07:51] <shut-> what is this GTI thing?
[07:51] <lokkilololo> bulmer http://pastebin.com/d70927895
[07:51] <snowy> for some reason my ubuntu pretty much locked me out...
[07:51] <PaulEU> I must always click CTRL + right click mouse button on xterm and select font medium
[07:51] <snowy> the terminal stops working when i attempt to sudo
[07:51] <lokkilololo> bulmer but the symlinks are inside default directory
[07:52] <snowy> everything under system just disappeared
[07:52] <alexandre_> but just for general knowledge how do you extract a bin file
[07:52] <PriceChild> svamp23, you'll be notified about security updates by the software updater.
[07:52] <PaulEU> who anybody know? ;)
[07:52] <lufis> alexandre_: Generally, software in linux isn't installed by downloading from websites. You can search for software in Ubuntu's repositories, which ensures you are getting quality, stable, unmalicious software
[07:52] <snowy> and i cant burn the newest version of ubuntu to disc D:
[07:52] <bulmer> lokkilololo: then paste the inside of default dir
[07:52] <snowy> i keep getting errors
[07:52] <alexandre_> i have tried chmod +x file
[07:52] <shut-> anyone no why my linux lags?
[07:52] <bulmer> PaulEU:  cat /usr/share/vte/termcap/xterm
[07:52] <alexandre_> but it hast'n extract the rpm
[07:52] <lufis> alexandre_: Well, you could install it from the website, but this method is much easier
[07:53] <Jordan_U> shut-, What GFX card do you have?
[07:53] <alexandre_> ok
[07:53] <lufis> So don't worry about the RPM, it doesn't work with Ubuntu anyway :)
[07:53] <Jordan_U> alexandre_, Ubuntu does not use RPM
[07:53] <shut-> Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller (Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller)
[07:53] <alexandre_> ok lol
[07:53] <qetuR> help, half my Ubuntu is in Swedish and half in English, i want all in Swedish
[07:53] <j_ack> snowy, which version of ubuntu you use?
[07:53] <alexandre_> i could have lost some time on it so
[07:53] <shut-> but u can make it a deb
[07:53] <qetuR> http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/4236/screenshotdesktopnf4.png
[07:54] <lokkilololo> bulmer http://pastebin.com/m15c10fb5
[07:54] <qetuR> please have a look
[07:54] <bulmer> alexandre_: however if you use alien, you can convert an rpm to deb packaging
[07:54] <shut-> by installing alien
[07:54] <Jordan_U> shut-, Can you pastebin the output of "glxinfo" ?
[07:54] <PaulEU> bulmer: I must edit this file ? :/
[07:54] <shut-> ?
[07:54] <shut-> what that
[07:54] <Jordan_U> !rpm
[07:54] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:54] <shut-> Jordan
[07:54] <alexandre_> ubuntu is a version of debian
[07:54] <alexandre_> ?
[07:54] <shut-> yes
[07:54] <shut-> but they keep it more uptodate
[07:54] <alexandre_> ok
[07:55] <ahmadsaifan> does thunderbird work with hotmail accounts?
[07:55] <Pici> !debian | alexandre_
[07:55] <ubotu> alexandre_: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[07:55] <shut-> doubt it
[07:55] <sSiroSoriSs> you cant do that!
[07:55] <sSiroSoriSs> I'm not an American citizen!
[07:55] <lufis> qetuR: Have you been to System > administration > language support?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> ahmadsaifan, If hotmail supports pop like most mail accounts do then yes, if not I don't know
[07:55] <bulmer> PaulEU: i dont know what you want to do
[07:55] <shut-> Jordan_U:Can you pastebin the output of "glxinfo" ?? whats that
[07:55] <ahmadsaifan> Jordan, do you know how to set up it then?
[07:55] <alexandre_> so when i want to install a software i need to go to add/remove
[07:56] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | shut-
[07:56] <ubotu> shut-: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:56] <shut-> i no what that is
[07:56] <Pici> alexandre_: Or you can use apt if you're more comfortable with that.
[07:56] <PaulEU> bulmer: when I run command $ xterm I'd like that default font was bigger than default
[07:56] <lufis> alexandre_: That's the easiest way. Some things aren't in add/remove, for such cases you can go to System > administration > synaptic package manager
[07:56] <bulmer> lokkilololo: I have same dir structure and contents
[07:56] <shut-> i mean the output of glxinfo
[07:56] <shut-> whats that
[07:56] <Jordan_U> shut-, Run "glxinfo" in a terminal and paste the output of it to pastebin
[07:56] <lokkilololo> bulmer so what do u think is the prob?
[07:56] <thavorn> if want to connect to my home samba server , what software to use?
[07:56] <PaulEU> bulmer: I have problem with eyes and I must have big fonts
[07:56] <alexandre_> i already experienced that yesterday
[07:56] <ahmadsaifan> What do i put in as the income server if i want to use hotmail in thunderbird?????????/
[07:56] <bulmer> PaulEU: hang on..let me check..
[07:56] <shut-> i am not on linux
[07:56] <shut-> i am on windows
[07:57] <kefka> !vmware
[07:57] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:57] <qetuR> lufis, no
[07:57] <qetuR> lufis, checking it now
[07:57] <thavorn> if want to connect to my home samba server from office, what gui software to use?
[07:57] <Stev> !virtualizers
[07:57] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[07:57] <snowy> =\
[07:57] <sSiroSoriSs> it's not what you know, it's what you can do!
[07:57] <lufis> qetuR: And I don't know if actual app titles get translated... Firefox is "Firefox" in whatever language
[07:57] <Pici> !samba > thavorn (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[07:57] <sSiroSoriSs> it's about what you can do!
[07:57] <ahmadsaifan> #beryl #ubuntu-effects
[07:57] <snowy> asked my question about 100 times...
[07:57] <snowy> lol
[07:57] <faileas> thavorn: its not so simple, you'd need a VPN between them i think
[07:57] <sSiroSoriSs> snowy?
[07:58] <ali_> #join quakenet
[07:58] <Jordan_U> shut-, I can't diagnose your ubuntu problems while you are running windows :)
[07:58] <snowy> sudo stopped working
[07:58] <sSiroSoriSs> where fort art though?
[07:58] <david00> hello. is there a way to remove gaim without removing evolution?
[07:58] <snowy> pretty much anything in system > admin
[07:58] <snowy> stopped working
[07:58] <snowy> i cant burn cd's
[07:58] <shut-> Jordan i will go on ubuntu brb i will reboot
[07:58] <ali_> #quakenet
[07:58] <shut-> :p
[07:58] <snowy> and terminal glitches =\
[07:58] <Pici> snowy: Did you change permissions on anything lately? or delete any directories?
[07:58] <qetuR> lufis, haha, when im looking there, only 2 packeges of 4 was downloaded
[07:58] <qetuR> downloading the rest now
[07:58] <sSiroSoriSs> i'm way ahead of you Pici
[07:58] <bulmer> PaulEU: I cant make sense of that termcap right away..im not sure if the Font size is declared on that file.
[07:58] <PaulEU> bulmer: on xterm you may see popup menu via CTRL+ right click button on mouse
[07:58] <ahmadsaifan> what do i put in the incoming server in thunderbird????????????/
[07:58] <lufis> qetuR: yeah :)
[07:59] <Pici> !patience | ahmadsaifan
[07:59] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:59] <Kcaj> Is there an easy command I can use from terminal to resize a whole directory of big images and make thumbnails, with the same exact names, in another directory, and then have cron run that command every 10 minutes?
[07:59] <snowy> no i was installing the eyetoy webcam and was installing a program camorama for playback in firefox
[07:59] <Jordan_U> snowy, Can you run "sudo echo test" and "gksudo echo test" ?
[07:59] <PaulEU> bulmer: and its possible that there is config.. but nobody know..
[07:59] <Pici> Kcaj: check out imagemagik
[07:59] <Kcaj> ok
[07:59] <Kcaj> thx
[07:59] <snowy> lemme see
[07:59] <sSiroSoriSs> i want to be like mig
[07:59] <sSiroSoriSs> don't you want to be like mike?
[07:59] <snowy> nope =\
[08:00] <bulmer> PaulEU: I cant find my notes on termcap..but anyhow I dont recall thats where the config for font size is
[08:00] <snowy> ./.. now my sound just stoped working
[08:00] <sSiroSoriSs> just do it V
[08:00] <Pici> !offtopic
[08:00] <Jordan_U> snowy, What do you mean "nope" ?
[08:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:00] <lokkilololo> bulmer also the driver does not recognize the 'option acx firmware_ver=xxx' option
[08:00] <ahmadsaifan> how can i get beryl to run at startup?
[08:00] <PaulEU> bulmer: what a pity!
[08:01] <lufis> ahmadsaifan: system > preferences > sessions, add beryl to startup programs
[08:01] <snowy> it just goes back to  snowy@snowy-laptop:~$
[08:01] <Jordan_U> ahmadsaifan, /join #ubuntu-effects
[08:01] <ahmadsaifan> ok, thank you!
[08:01] <bulmer> lokkilololo: i recall that i somehow have to reload my acx111 drivers..but i forget what i have to do
[08:01] <eric__> Jordeen
[08:01] <PaulEU> bulmer: I'll try find on google
[08:01] <ahmadsaifan> i did, but noone speeaks there
[08:01] <sSiroSoriSs> good question ahmadsaifan, simply go to system/admin menu + look for "sessions" program
[08:01] <shut-> what do i need to type in kernel
[08:01] <Jordan_U> snowy, It asked for your password first I assume?
[08:01] <david00> hello. is there a way to remove gaim without removing evolution?
[08:01] <snowy> yes
[08:02] <Pici> shut-: Huh?
[08:02] <Jordan_U> shut-, "glxinfo"
[08:02] <lokkilololo> bulmer can u point me to somewhere so that i'll search for it
[08:02] <snowy> i entered the right password as i would any other time for admin access through root
[08:02] <qetuR> lufis, do i have to restart?
[08:02] <lufis> qetuR: nah :)
[08:02] <lufis> qetuR: This isn't windows where you've got to reboot every time you change something
[08:02] <Jordan_U> snowy, Then sudo is not broken, can you name one application that *doesn't* work from the administration menu ?
[08:03] <shut-> ok i will pastebin i
[08:03] <shut-> t
[08:03] <snowy> well theres i think 5 programs that dont work
[08:03] <snowy> 6 programs that show i mean
[08:03] <snowy> keyring manager
[08:03] <shut-> Jorden_U: http://pastebin.ca/657200
[08:03] <Pici> !enter | snowy
[08:03] <ubotu> snowy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:03] <jjimenez> ola
[08:04] <jjimenez> ablas espaol
[08:04] <Pici> !es | jjimenez
[08:04] <ubotu> jjimenez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:04] <palintheus> !es
[08:04] <bulmer> lokkilololo: i google for it..its been a while since i have the link
[08:04] <jjimenez> ok
[08:04] <snowy> network tools : printing : system log : system monitor : update manager and windows wireless drivers
[08:04] <jjimenez> como te llamas
[08:04] <snowy> sry about that pici =3 i just realized it after i did the first one sry
[08:04] <jjimenez> yes
[08:04] <bulmer> lokkilololo:  http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php  <-- here
[08:05] <profanephobia> me llamo chris
[08:05] <thavorn> how to start swat ?
[08:05] <jjimenez> ola
[08:05] <jjimenez> chirs
[08:05] <Pici> !es > jjimenez (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[08:05] <profanephobia> buenos noches
[08:05] <profanephobia> lol
[08:05] <jjimenez> lo mismo te digo
[08:05] <Pici> snowy: If you run `gksudo gnome-system-monitor` from a terminal, does it open/do you get any errors.
[08:05] <profanephobia> or whatever time zone your in
[08:05] <Jordan_U> snowy, what happens if you run "gnome-keyring-manager" from a terminal ?
[08:06] <jjimenez> is espanis
[08:06] <Pici> profanephobia: Can you stop that.
[08:06] <giant> Jordan_U, it should bring up the gnome-keyring-manager if you have it installed
[08:06] <ismell> getent shadow is there a way to stop that ?
[08:06] <Pici> !es
[08:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:06] <ismell> atleast when your a normal user ?
[08:06] <jjimenez> no
[08:06] <snowy> Pici: it dosent run anything
[08:06] <jjimenez> mi pipol
[08:06] <profanephobia> pici oh crap i thought i was on the offtopic chat im sry
[08:06] <ahmadsaifan> how do i add beryl to start up ? what is the command?
[08:06] <jjimenez> mas lento
[08:06] <shut-> Jorden_U, did u get my pastebin linux?
[08:07] <jjimenez> jilipollas
[08:07] <unimatrix9> beryl-manager
[08:07] <snowy> Jordan_U: same here as well just goes to a new line
[08:07] <Pici> jjimenez: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[08:07] <unimatrix9> add to sessions
[08:07] <ahmadsaifan> i know i need to add to sessions
[08:07] <ahmadsaifan> but what is the command?
[08:07] <jjimenez> tu hablas espanis
[08:07] <lufis> !es > jjimenez
[08:07] <Pici> !english | jjimenez
[08:07] <ubotu> jjimenez: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:07] <ahmadsaifan> i click on new, and i put Beryl, that what is the command
[08:08] <unimatrix9> beryl-manager
[08:08] <profanephobia> jjimenez, vaya a #ubuntu-offtopic lol
[08:08] <unimatrix9> if you have it installed
[08:08] <ahmadsaifan> is beryl-manager the command?
[08:08] <unimatrix9> you can try it in terminal if you are not sure
[08:09] <ahmadsaifan> are you a volunnteer here unimatrix?
[08:09] <Pici> ahmadsaifan: Everyone heere is a volunteer
[08:09] <ahmadsaifan> ok, lol
[08:09] <palintheus> everyone is a volunteer or needs help
[08:09] <unimatrix9> strange question
[08:09] <david00> can anione tell me what anacron is?
[08:09] <boelraty> hey, i cant use sudo in terminal, if i do : sudo something, nothing happen, but if i do something without sudo, it works, how can i solve the problem ?
[08:09] <philthy> palintheus, and most of the time both :P
[08:09] <Jordan_U> shut-, Were you the one who also said that desktop effects didn't work?
[08:09] <ahmadsaifan> Pici, what is the command for beryl to run at start up ?
[08:09] <lufis> david00: it's a scheduler
[08:09] <palintheus> philthy: that describes me ; )
[08:10] <david00> lufis: do i need it?
[08:10] <Pici> ahmadsaifan: I'm sorry, I don't know.
[08:10] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[08:10] <Jordan_U> shut-, Were you the one who also said that desktop effects didn't work?
[08:10] <lufis> david00: well, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to turn it off
[08:10] <unimatrix9> boelraty : are you running as root ( terminal )
[08:10] <shut-> Jorden_u  did you get paste bin link
[08:10] <ahmadsaifan> should i go to #beryl ?
[08:10] <Pici> ahmadsaifan: or #ubuntu-effects
[08:10] <david00> lufis: and atd?
[08:10] <philthy> palintheus, haha, my too. except i can only help with trivial stuff really.
[08:10] <lufis> david00: atd? dunno
[08:10] <snowy> =/
[08:10] <ahmadsaifan> ok, but noone takes at Ubuntu effects
[08:10] <unimatrix9> the command is beryl-manager , for beryl to run
[08:10] <jtshaw> david00: atd is a scheduler as well
[08:10] <unimatrix9> at start up
[08:11] <david00> i shouldnt disable them, right?
[08:11] <ahmadsaifan> are yo usure?
[08:11] <jtshaw> david00: it is the backend that allows the at command to work...
[08:11] <Kouryuu> well you have to start "beryl" first then run "beryl-manager" right?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> shut-, Yes, and desktop-effects should work
[08:11] <jtshaw> david00: I wouldn't... they aren't going to hurt performance or anything
[08:11] <boelraty> unimatrix9 > i launch a simply terminal as usual, but now if i do for example : sudo gedit dfk.conf, nothing happens
[08:12] <david00> just triing to speed up boot time, and if i have a desktop, do i need the acpid and apmd services running?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | boelraty
[08:12] <ahmadsaifan> what is the command for Gaim to run at start up????????
[08:12] <ubotu> boelraty: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[08:12] <philthy> can i uninstall the newest version of the kernel via apt-get without messing anything up?
[08:12] <unimatrix9> boelraty , did you at some time run the command sudo passwd?
[08:12] <Jordan_U> philthy, No
[08:12] <Kouryuu> ahmadsaifan, it's configured within gaim as part of the preferences.. or just run "gaim"
[08:12] <boelraty> unimatrix9 > no
[08:12] <unimatrix9> ok
[08:13] <ahmadsaifan> is it in preferences?
[08:13] <ahmadsaifan> Ill go looks
[08:13] <Jordan_U> philthy, You would need to also downgrade any kernel modules if you want to use an older kernel
[08:13] <philthy> Jordan_U, aw. how would I uninstall it then? (it creates some small bug with my UI)
[08:13] <Kouryuu> iahmadsaifan, if you run the taskbar plugin it is
[08:13] <jtshaw> david00: probably not strictly.. but I can't imagine they have any real impact on startup speed either
[08:13] <Kouryuu> (that's how I have it run at startup)
[08:13] <david00> do you know of some way to speed boot time?
[08:13] <boelraty> unimatrix9> in fact, terminal ask me the password and then nothing, just a new invitation for an other command
[08:13] <ahmadsaifan> what kouryuu?
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> i cant find it in preferences
[08:14] <Kouryuu> ahmadsaifan, just run the command gaim
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> is it use last status from exit at startup???
[08:14] <snowy> jordan would this be easiler done via the forums since i could post logs if i could get it to work?
[08:14] <unimatrix9> boelraty , how did you install ubuntu?
[08:14] <unimatrix9> expert install?
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> i dont want to manually do it eveyrtime i start up
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> i want it to run on its own
[08:14] <Kouryuu> ahmadsaifan, what desktop are you using? kde? gnome?
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> gnome
[08:15] <unimatrix9> boelraty, take a read here , see if its the same as your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-146859.html
[08:15] <Jordan_U> philthy, You might be able to simply remove the newest kernel, pin the package and re-install ubuntu-desktop if anything was removed, but I am tired right now and not completely sure
[08:15] <unimatrix9> and if you can solve it with..
[08:15] <spencer28> Hello, I need help with my ubuntu internet connection problems. I have spent time on it and have a number of questions I would love to ask someone more experienced.
[08:15] <Kouryuu> ok, I forget with gnome, but there should be some gnome utility that will "remember last desktop" if you have gaim running and logout of gnome, it'll bring it back
[08:16] <philthy> Jordan_U, haha, I'll just work on fixing my specific problem with the new kernel then. :D thanks
[08:16] <ahmadsaifan> Ok, thanks
[08:16] <ahmadsaifan> Bye
[08:16] <lufis> spencer28: Just ask your question :)
[08:16] <Kouryuu> no prob
[08:16] <Jordan_U> philthy, Are you sure that it is the new kernel which is causing the glitch and have you filed a bug report?
[08:16] <jtshaw> david00: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[08:16] <boelraty> unimatrix9 > seems to be the same problem
[08:16] <ahmadsaifan> and noone is talking at ubuntu effects or beryl!!!
[08:16] <ahmadsaifan> where are they
[08:16] <spencer28> when I ping my router, I get no responce
[08:16] <philthy> Jordan_U, No, and no. I'm just pretty sure its the newest kernel. Because it works fine on the old kernel
[08:16] <Kouryuu> ahmadsaifan, heh I still have to fix my totally hosed ati drivers from running beryl ;)
[08:17] <david00> jtshaw: thanks for all the help
[08:17] <ahmadsaifan> lol
[08:17] <unimatrix9> ahmadsaifan  : you can try any command from the terminal to see it work
[08:17] <boelraty> animatrix9> maybe i have change the right for admin
[08:17] <dd2d> I have a question concerning Ubuntu and it's related to Wubi, can I post it here? (newbie)
[08:17] <snowy> wow... dmesg works perfectly fine
[08:17] <unimatrix9> ahmadsaifan  : so gaim is just gaim as you type it, and to add at startup use sessions in gnome
[08:17] <snowy> but when i try to run sudo dmesg is just freeze's
[08:17] <ahmadsaifan> someone just spoke in ubuntu effects, they told me the command
[08:18] <unimatrix9> jeeeeeeeeeeeeH
[08:18] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:18] <Jordan_U> dd2d, Can't hurt, there is also a wubi channel IIRC
[08:18] <ahmadsaifan> but what is the command i put in for gaim?>
[08:18] <unimatrix9> is he blind?
[08:18] <spencer28> Anyone CTC about my ubuntu network problem?
[08:18] <spencer28> PM me
[08:19] <jtshaw> david00: no problem.. hope it helps
[08:19] <dd2d> Thanks, I'll try first here then. I installed it on my E:/ drive (6GB) and get the error NO RAID DISKS
[08:19] <lufis> ahmadsaifan: gaim is simply "gaim"
[08:19] <dd2d> and then udevd-event[2827] 
[08:19] <ahmadsaifan> Just gaim?
[08:19] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[08:19] <bulmer> spencer28: here is okay...type this  "ip a"  and tell me what your ip address is and name of your nic
[08:19] <erisco> when I get to the terminal with ctrl+alt+f3 and I try to log in, it says that my login was incorrect...
[08:19] <erisco> however I for sure used the correct username and password
[08:19] <boelraty> animatrix9 > that's happen just after that : sudo usermod -G -a netdev boelraty
[08:20] <spencer28> well right now I am in windows. I wrote down when I was on ubuntu
[08:20] <bulmer> erisco: on the other consoles..you used same login credentials?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> philthy, What is the graphics glitch exactly, and what GFX card?
[08:20] <Toddler> anyone in here actually using multiple desktops ? rotating cube is nice and all but whats the use of having 4 desktops ??
[08:20] <nikron> Toddler: I use it
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Toddler, I do
[08:20] <bulmer> spencer28: also right down the resullt of   netstat -rn  and cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:21] <philthy> Jordan_U,  After installing the new kernel, when windows have a pop-up, the pop-up doesn't appear right away, I have to click the taskbar for it to appear. nVidia 7800
[08:21] <erisco> bulmer, I cannot get in on any of them...
[08:21] <lufis> Toddler: More space :)
[08:21] <spencer28> i need my ubuntu to use 192.168.0.102, 192.168.0.1, 255.255.255.0,
[08:21] <palintheus> Toddler: I use 2 desktops
[08:21] <unimatrix9> Toddler yes i use four
[08:21] <bulmer> erisco: that tells me you dont have the correct credentials
[08:21] <Jordan_U> Toddler, It is very useful for organizing different tasks that I am doing at the same time
[08:21] <erisco> bulmer, I can log in fine though, and I know the root password
[08:21] <erisco> bulmer, I just cannot seem to login with the ctrl+alt+f3 console thing
[08:21] <spencer28> cannot add MAC to ARP
[08:21] <politik> I'm trying to use xming to run an X session on my Windows box, and I'm able to log in, but once I log in I only get my desktop background, and gnome doesn't seem to start
[08:22] <bulmer> erisco: how are you exactly logging on on those consoles?
[08:22] <politik> any ideas?
[08:22] <erisco> bulmer, what do you mean? It prompts me for my username... so I type it. Then it prompts me for my password... I type it
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Toddler, It has been in almost all *nix managers for decades ( literally ) and will be added to OSx in the next release, so it's not just a novelty item like many parts of beryl
[08:23] <bruenig> four desktops has a purpose
[08:23] <bulmer> erisco:  are you on a gui now? log out and use same credentials you use in the console..see if you can log in
[08:23] <EJ> \\'elcome ack Jesus
[08:23] <Jesus> thx
[08:23] <erisco> bulmer, yes I am on a gui. I have already used those credentials many times
[08:23] <osxdude|laptop> please say os x not osx
[08:23] <osxdude|laptop> thank you
[08:24] <bulmer> erisco: check your /etc/securetty if any users are allowed
[08:24] <bulmer> osx :)
[08:24] <spencer28> I can ping 127.0.0.1, 192.168.0.102,, but not 192.168.0.1
[08:25] <politik> anyone? how can I debug why when I log in to my ubuntu box via xdmcp I can see the gdm login prompt and login, but gnome doesn't start afterwards?
[08:25] <bulmer> spencer28:  who owns that .1? is it another device?
[08:25] <renate> Hi there
[08:25] <renate> my sound doesn't work anymore
[08:25] <Where|here> Hello renate
[08:25] <spencer28> have dlink router
[08:25] <Where|here> renate: Do you have an Intel sound card?
[08:25] <dd2d> Can anyone help me? :)
[08:25] <renate> SB live from creative
[08:25] <erisco> bulmer, which file contains that information? I see access.conf, group.conf, limits.conf, pam_env.conf, time.conf
[08:25] <genii> spencer28: Your router may not be set to answer ICMP requests
[08:25] <Pelo> dd2d,  what with ?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> politik, Does failsafe gnome or failsafe terminal work?
[08:25] <bulmer> spencer28: also prefix your responses with a nic..so it will not be missed
[08:25] <Grandpappi> ineed some help in determining if my madwifi-ng driver patches are working.  can anyone help with some commands?
[08:25] <lufis> renate: changed anything recently?
[08:26] <bulmer> erisco off hand i cant recall..check all of them
[08:26] <renate> yea, created a .asoundrc because the default device was wrong
[08:26] <erisco> bulmer, in all of them everything is commented out
[08:26] <lufis> renate: That may be the problem ;)
[08:26] <renate> contint of the .asoundrc is pcm.!default {       type hw        card 2}
[08:26] <bulmer> erisco:  did I say  /etc/securetty ?
[08:27] <renate> card 2 is the soundcard that i use
[08:27] <lufis> renate: So you have two cards?
[08:27] <renate> there is a onboard one but unused
[08:27] <politik> Jordan_U: sorry, how do I select those when using xdmcp (via xming)? I am able to use the machine fine from a local login
[08:27] <lufis> renate: Do away with the config file and just turn off onboard sound in the bios
[08:27] <erisco> bulmer, yes I assumed you meant /etc/security/
[08:27] <renate> well the system actually recognised 3
[08:27] <spencer28> nic...do u still need what you asked for before?
[08:27] <bulmer> erisco:  did I say  /etc/securetty ?  <-- look carefully
[08:27] <renate> my network card..
[08:27] <renate> as OSS mixer
[08:27] <renate> no idea why.
[08:27] <lufis> Hm
[08:28] <qetuR> lufis, still doesnt work
[08:28] <spencer28> netstat not showing 192.168.0.102
[08:28] <lufis> qetuR: Applications don't get translated I don't think. "Firefox" is "Firefox" in every language
[08:28] <qetuR> yes, firefox
[08:28] <renate> well i don'T think thats the problem lufis , becqause in vlc i set as output device the hw0,2 and it still doesn't output anything
[08:28] <erisco> bulmer, okay I do have it opened now. It seems to just list the standard console names
[08:28] <qetuR> but the panel is still english
[08:28] <Pelo> renate,  dbl click on the volume icon, check in the menu under preference or device and change from oss to alsa
[08:28] <lufis> renate: Did you try disabling it in bios?
[08:29] <politik> hm bizarre... if I turn off xming's clipboard integration, it works fine
[08:29] <bulmer> erisco: also do a  man securetty
[08:29] <isei> !foo
[08:29] <ubotu> bar
[08:29] <renate> Pelo:  the SB live one (alsa mixer) is the one that is active
[08:29] <spencer28> nic.... going to bet netstat -rn and resolv info. can I pm u the post?
[08:29] <renate> lufis:  not yet
[08:29] <shadowhywind> is there a log of what happens at startup?
[08:29] <paotzu> sb live is that one weird chipset, the ev something?
[08:29] <lufis> renate: Try it anyway
[08:29] <Pelo> renate, might need to disalble the onboard one in the bios,
[08:29] <boyam> lol@spencer28
[08:29] <renate> ok i try
[08:30] <renate> cya in 2 min
[08:30] <paotzu> I remember for years that would just crash teh kernel :(
[08:30] <Where|here> At least once a day, the X server crashes and restarts. This sometimes happens when using FireFox and sometimes happens when using Pidgin. I am using the 64-bit version. Does anybody know how I might be able to diagnose this problem?
[08:30] <lufis> paotzu: yeah, i have one sb live card but it shows up as two devices
[08:30] <kefka> I installed vmware server, and get this when trying to run it: /usr/lib/vmware-server/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware-server/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)
[08:30] <erisco> bulmer, okay then according to securetty I should be able to login
[08:30] <bulmer> erisco okay
[08:31] <lufis> Where|here: what version of ubuntu?
[08:31] <boyam> spencer28: not nic literally, the person's nickname as I wrote out to address you in the beginning of this message....you'd adress me with boyam: <whatever you got to say here>
[08:31] <Where|here> lufis: feisty
[08:31] <unimatrix9> system / systemlogs?
[08:31] <Pelo> kefka,  how did you install vmware ?
[08:31] <kefka> Pelo: From apt, following the ubuntu wiki guide, including the pam modification
[08:31] <erisco> bulmer, I just found the problem
[08:31] <spencer28> k thought u meant nic card ha
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Where|here, What GFX card?
[08:31] <bulmer> erisco okay..what was it?
[08:32] <erisco> bulmer, I always type all my capitals with the caps lock key... and for some reason the caps lock key doesn't work in that console
[08:32] <Pelo> kefka, if you are running fiesty,  with gnome,  just install it from the add/remove menu , it's easier
[08:32] <erisco> bulmer, so my password was always wrong
[08:32] <Pelo> kefka, and it works
[08:32] <kefka> Pelo: Running a server install
[08:32] <bulmer> erisco: i told yah..credentials were not right
[08:32] <spencer28> Bulmer: i would love if someone could finally solve this problem with me.
[08:32] <Pelo> kefka, I can'T help with that one, maybe the ppl in #vmware can
[08:32] <kefka> Pelo: I'll try cleaning this up and reinstalling the normal way.
[08:32] <orangefly>  can someone help with remote desktop to server 2003....???....
[08:32] <erisco> bulmer, that was my best guess as well but seeing as I for sure was typing it correctly... bah =\
[08:33] <bulmer> spencer28: you can pay me to solve it :)
[08:33] <erisco> bulmer, it doesn't show the password you are typing so I had no idea... until I just accidentally typed my password first
[08:33] <erisco> bulmer, into the username field =\
[08:33] <bulmer> erisco: chuck it as lesson learned
[08:33] <Where|here> Jordan_U: 128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8300GS
[08:33] <Where|here> Sorry for taking so long to look it up
[08:33] <spencer28> Bulmer: i would rather try to work with someone and learn as I go
[08:34] <Where|here> orangefly: pt-get install rdesktop
[08:34] <spencer28> Bulmer: to poor at this time
[08:34] <bobc> is it possible to boot the live-cd to the console instead of the desktop?
[08:34] <erisco> bulmer, at least I don't have to keep restarting all the time when a program goes down now
[08:34] <Where|here> orangefly: *apt-get
[08:34] <bulmer> spencer28: you can always pay and learn as you go along.. hehehe
[08:34] <Where|here> orangefly: Then type rdesktop server
[08:34] <Jordan_U> politik, I don't use XDMCP ( I always just do ssh -X ) so I am not very familiar with it, does it give you a standard GDM like you would get with a local login?
[08:35] <bulmer> politik: btw.. xdcmp is considered unsecure log-in..but it is your box..so
[08:35] <protoloco> in...
[08:35] <renate> seems to have woreked
 hello, i have isntall xen with centos and rhel, Im new in ubuntu.. somebody has installed xen with his virtual machines??  somebody can point me to the right direction to manage my XEN virtual machines...
[08:35] <renate> but i still wonder why
[08:36] <renate> i mean.. what if i wanted to use both soundcards?
[08:36] <Pelo> renate, you'd have to dig around a lot more then just asking here
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Where|here, Might be a bug in the Nvidia drivers, you might try grabbing the newest ones from nvidia.com *if* you are willing and able to recompile them whenever there is a kernel upgrade
[08:36] <bulmer> spencer28: anyhow..you gathered the info i request of you?
[08:36] <Pelo> renate, you'd probably end up manualy editing config files and such
[08:37] <renate> k
[08:37] <Pici> !xen | protoloco
[08:37] <ubotu> protoloco: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:37] <zirra-meeting> Damnit.  Why does it keep putting SPLASH in my grub when I take it out and run update-grub?> :/
[08:37] <protoloco> perfect!
[08:37] <protoloco> Pici
[08:37] <Where|here> Jordan_U: I shall try. Thanks :). (Also, I just realized I was using "nv" instead of "nvidia," so I will try the latter.) Thanks for your help!
[08:37] <bulmer> protoloco: there is a new book on Xen how to deploy it..
[08:37] <xanith> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu on my computer at work, and on XP i was running dual screens, one at 1280x1024, and the other 1440x780, once ubuntu was installed the widescreen, just flashes blue squares now.. How would I go about fixing this?
[08:37] <Pelo> renate,  you need to understand that this is just a user support channel as in  the users provide the support,  our expertise can be limited on some subject and usualy relates to what we had to deal with
[08:38] <Mishu> Is there some way so a script must stop before reboot, like before reboot apache, mysql always stop...!
[08:38] <Pelo> ie , some stuff we just don'T know
[08:38] <protoloco> bulmer how is called?
[08:38] <carretto> http://binnyva.blogspot.com/2005/11/md5-is-dead-use-sha1.html
[08:38] <bulmer> protoloco: google for it, its probably available on amazon
[08:38] <ismell> I'm trying to get pam_ldap/nss_ldap to use TLS but I keep getting a Verification error. I found his, but what does it mean by an openssl CA error ?
[08:38] <aib> how do I get sudo to recognize environment variables such as PYTHONPATH?
[08:38] <ismell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap2/+bug/58487
[08:38] <spencer__30> does anyone feel like helping with a ubuntu internet connection issues?
[08:38] <mrga> hello
[08:38] <mrga>  i have big problem
[08:38] <Jordan_U> zirra-meeting, You have to take it out in the automagic kernel settings ( where update-grub looks to find how to generate the kernel entries )
[08:39] <Pelo> mrga, what do you think it is ?
[08:39] <bulmer> spencer__30: i tried to assist you..you gathered the info i ask of you?
[08:39] <mrga> i changed permisslion to /var and now i can/t login as gnome
[08:39] <Moriarty> LILO IS DEAD
[08:39] <Jordan_U> zirra-meeting, The part that is commented out *don't uncomment it just edit it*
[08:39] <Moriarty> AND WE ALL LAUGHED
[08:39] <pacmanfan> <3 grub
[08:39] <Moriarty> ENCYCLOPEDIADRAMATICA.COM
[08:39] <Pelo> mrga, boot the recovery mode and change it back
[08:39] <Jordan_U> Moriarty, Why are you using lilo?
[08:39] <bulmer> mrga: that was not wise..you may have to re-install
[08:39] <Pici> !offtopic | Moriarty
[08:39] <ubotu> Moriarty: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:39] <spencer__30> Bulmer: I am sorry but I am not in the position to pay anyone for much these days. Just starting out.
[08:39] <mrga> how
[08:40] <mrga> how pelo
[08:40] <bulmer> spencer__30: okay..just put it on the tab.. <wink>
[08:40] <Moriarty> gay
[08:40] <Jordan_U> !ops
[08:40] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:40] <spencer__30> Bulmer: k,, back in a bit
[08:40] <spencer__30> Bulmer: thx
[08:41] <Pelo> mrga, from the boot menu, select the second item and use the same command you use to change the /var permission,  probably   sudo chmod 755 /var
[08:41] <Dim45> hy
[08:41] <Pelo> !pm | dim
[08:41] <ubotu> dim: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[08:41] <mrga> what is seconf item
[08:42] <Pelo> mrga,  you get a menu when you boot the computer ?
[08:42] <mrga> no i just get to login ,but loks like terminal
[08:42] <Sivik> what is the command to clear the history of commands
[08:43] <Pelo> mrga, type esc right after the bios info screen , you should get a boot menu , use the recovery mode listed shoud be second item in the list
 rm .bash_history
[08:43] <betamax_> hi
[08:43] <cox377> hello there, can anyone recommend a cd ripper to rip to MP3?
[08:44] <Pelo> mrga, or try the comman from that prompt you get
[08:44] <nalioth> cox377: serpentine
[08:44] <politik> anyone know how to change the display resolution in an X server that is running on my windows box? Opening the System->resolution menu only shows the current resolution, with no option to change it
[08:44] <mrga> ok thanks, and i choose recovery and than type sudo chmod 755 /var
[08:44] <Pelo> mrga, shuld do it,
[08:44] <betamax_> am i allowed to ask general linux questions here?
[08:44] <genii> Sivik: in ~ that is, the .bash_history
[08:44] <mrga> ok thaksm
[08:44] <ahmadsaifan> i need help installing Real Player 10.5 so i can watch videos online
[08:44] <bulmer> betamax_: yes
[08:44] <ahmadsaifan> its not working
[08:44] <Sivik> genii: how do i remove it without removing the file or messing anyting up
[08:45] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan, how did you install it ?
[08:45] <ahmadsaifan> i didnt install
[08:45] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  didn'T we do this yesterday ?
[08:45] <genii> Sivik: It is automagically remade, don't worry
[08:45] <ahmadsaifan> no...
[08:45] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  do you have the realplayer bin file on your desktop ?
[08:45] <ahmadsaifan> http://www.real.com/
[08:45] <betamax_> how would i copy all of my home directory except for a few directories within it to a certain place?
[08:45] <ahmadsaifan> yes i do
[08:45] <betamax_> in the command line, i mean
[08:45] <danta> is pidgin already in the repos?
[08:45] <Sivik> genii: thanks
[08:45] <Sivik> so what is the command again
[08:46] <ahmadsaifan> i have the file on my desktop
[08:46] <genii> Sivik: If you want your own removed, rm ~/.bash_history
[08:46] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan, open the terminal,    cd Desktop ,  sudo chmod 777 filename.bin ,  sudo ,./filename.bin    remeber that linux is case sensitive
[08:46] <Pici> danta: No, pidgin will not be in the feisty repos.
[08:46] <ahmadsaifan> what is cd desktop for?
[08:46] <genii> Sivik: If someone elses, sudo rm /home/<theirname>/.bash_history
[08:47] <danta> Pici, never?
[08:47] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  to change the current folder to your desktiop,  and my mistake the last command is   sudo ./filename.bin
[08:47] <Sivik> genii: that didn't work, i can still view what i have typed by pressing the up button
[08:47] <ahmadsaifan> ok, can you list them again
[08:47] <ahmadsaifan> in order
[08:47] <ahmadsaifan> sorry
[08:47] <bulmer> betamax_: you may have to play around with the command..tar and sed..no one has the answer off the bat..needs some tinkering
[08:47] <Pici> danta: I don't believe so.  Too much with the structure of gaim changed for it to be backported.  It will be in Gutsy though, the next release.
[08:48] <betamax_> is it possible to do it in one command, or would i have to do cp /home/user/* /path/to destination
[08:48] <youknowme> I did "sudo apt-get install lame" but I still can't find libmp3lame.so.0, or anything that even looks like it at all. Help please?
[08:48] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  cd Desktop        sudo chmod 777 filename.bin        sudo ./filename.bin
[08:48] <betamax_> then remove the ones i don't want
[08:48] <Pici> danta: You can install it manually using a package from getdeb.net, but of course thats not 'officially supported' :)
[08:48] <danta> Pici thanx, will do that
[08:48] <bulmer> betamax_: juidicious use of tar and sed and piping will do it..youhave to play around to get it right
[08:48] <ahmadsaifan> it says no such directory pelo
[08:48] <pvl> hi can some1 help get my microphone to record?
[08:48] <ambassada> how can i make xchat to understand scandinavian letters
[08:49] <betamax_> ok, i'll mess around for a while, see what i can do
[08:49] <ahmadsaifan> and command not found
[08:49] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  linux is case sensitive, it is not  cd desktop, it is cd Desktop
[08:49] <ahmadsaifan> i did put that in
[08:49] <bulmer> pvl: i want to know too..i never played with media stuff..
[08:49] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan, open a  fresh terminal
[08:49] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[08:50] <youknowme> hello,  I did "sudo apt-get install lame" but I still can't find libmp3lame.so.0, or anything that even looks like it at all. Help please?
[08:50] <ahmadsaifan> put in cd Desktop?
[08:50] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,yes
[08:50] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[08:50] <yell0w> uhm guys, how can i use junior-typing ?
[08:50] <ahmadsaifan> then?
[08:50] <ahmadsaifan> then....
[08:50] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  sudo chmod 777 filename      replace filename with the name of the file
[08:50] <bulmer> youknowme: did you have an updated database after you did your locate? or you did a find / ?
[08:50] <yell0w> uhm guys, how can i use junior-typing ?
[08:51] <bulmer> yell0w: yes you cant, we cant stop you..whatever junior-typing is
[08:51] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  I've typed it 3 times already , you need to show as much patience with me as I am showing with you
[08:51] <youknowme> bulmer, sorry but now I are confuse. What do you mean?
[08:51] <bulmer> yell0w: yes you can*, we cant stop you..whatever junior-typing is
[08:51] <betamax_> he's asking how he can
[08:51] <bulmer> youknowme: how did you attempt to find the file?
[08:52] <yell0w> bulmer, i didn't ask whether i can, i asked how i start the program and use it
[08:52] <pvl> anyone know how to get microphones to record?
[08:52] <youknowme> bulmer, through audacity, the program that needs it
[08:52] <bulmer> yell0w: it flashes by fast..so i missed the gist
[08:53] <ahmadsaifan> thank you it is working
[08:53] <bulmer> youknowme: what command you used to find the file?
[08:53] <ismell> any on setup pam_ldap with TLS ?
[08:53] <betamax_> yell0w, what is junior-typing
[08:53] <yell0w> betamax_, a typing game for kids so they'll learn typing properly
[08:53] <Pelo> bulmer,  locate filename
[08:53] <youknowme> bulmer, I'm using the GUI of Audacity
[08:53] <valeri> hey guys
[08:54] <hammedhaaret> hi
[08:54] <bulmer> Pelo: he just installed it, it would not appeard on locate database
[08:54] <bulmer> unless he updatedb immediately
[08:54] <Pelo> bulmer, I'll take your wrod for it
[08:54] <valeri> im new whit ubuntu
[08:54] <valeri> could someone help me
[08:54] <Pelo> valeri,  weilcome tothe madhouse
[08:54] <betamax_> yell0w, where did you get it from? is it a .deb file or source that needs to be compiled?
[08:54] <Pelo> valeri, wht do you need help with ?
[08:54] <yell0w> betamax_, repo, feisty
[08:55] <bulmer> youknowme: most libraries are in /usr/include or /lib  look there?
[08:55] <valeri> i need help whit every thin
[08:55] <valeri> *thing
[08:55] <southafrikanse> hello. I want to install pidgin. But my repository list doesn't find it
[08:55] <youknowme> bulmer, I looked in /lib but not in /include, I'll try that now
[08:55] <betamax_> yell0w, did you install it with "apt-get install junior-typing"?
[08:55] <valeri> first i will ask is here a german channel ??
[08:55] <jkiff> Hi all.  Quick question, is there a simple way to determine which version of ubuntu is running on a machine from a shell?
[08:55] <Pelo> valeri,  if you want help here you'll need to ask some specific questions, if you want everything at once try the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[08:55] <yell0w> betamax_, yes
[08:56] <valeri> is her a german channel any where
[08:56] <Pelo> jkiff, uname -r will get you the kernel,  that will give us a clue
[08:56] <PP188> jkiff: lsb_release -c -d
[08:56] <VSpike> !de | valeri
[08:56] <ubotu> valeri: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:56] <betamax_> yell0w, the command to run it should be "junior-typing" then, try running that in the terminal
[08:56] <mrga> ok pelo i did it, and i typed pass and a don't know what to do else
[08:56] <valeri> kk thx
[08:56] <yell0w> betamax_, already did before i come here
[08:56] <yell0w> lol
[08:56] <youknowme> bulmer, well it wasn't in /include either. Is there a terminal search command of some sort I could use?
[08:56] <betamax_> hmm
[08:57] <mrga> ok pelo i did it, and i typed pass and a don't know what to do else
[08:57] <VSpike> Does anyone know anything like SQL Server Management Studio for Linux?
[08:57] <needhelpnstuff> aloah, someone messed my computer up  no i get the message Gubr error 17, i cant boot ubuntu OR XP
[08:57] <jkiff> PP188: Nice!  Thanks.  :)
[08:57] <valeri> and how i change channel ??
[08:57] <PP188> jkiff: ok.. =] 
[08:57] <mrga> ok pelo i did it, and i typed pass and a don't know what to do else
[08:57] <jonathan8di> One of the things I like to do when I used windows was create music using a simple midi editor.
[08:57] <Pelo> mrga, did you manage to get the boot menu
[08:57] <Pelo> mrga,  can you calm down a bit
[08:57] <bulmer> youknowme:  yes  ..man find ..so many options though
[08:57] <mrga> ok
[08:57] <Pelo> mrga, did you manage to get the boot menu
[08:57] <mrga> yes
[08:57] <jonathan8di> It seems that ubuntu does not come with a software synthesizer.  Is that correct?
[08:58] <Pelo> mrga,  and you got to the command prompt ?
[08:58] <palintheus> valeri: "/join #ubuntu-de"
[08:58] <valeri> exit
[08:58] <DrDabbles> Vspike, there are a few utilities slightly similar for MySQL. Searching synaptic for mysql should show them
[08:58] <valeri> kk
[08:58] <mrga> command prompt,
[08:58] <needhelpnstuff> noone here that can help me?
[08:58] <mrga> i did recovery
[08:58] <betamax_> yell0w, when you installed it, what were the names of the packages it installed?
[08:58] <mrga> and i was asked for pass
[08:58] <palintheus> !patience | needhelpnstuff
[08:58] <ubotu> needhelpnstuff: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:58] <mrga> and then i get thi
[08:58] <mrga> this root@mrga
[08:58] <jonathan8di> I installed qjackctl jackd vkeybd seq24 zynaddsubfx hydrogen
[08:58] <needhelpnstuff> hmkay
[08:58] <eugman> What do I need to make and run hello world level c++ programs?
[08:59] <Pelo> !enter | mrga
[08:59] <ubotu> mrga: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:59] <yell0w> betamax_,   gtypist tipptrainer tipptrainer-data-de typespeed xletters
[08:59] <jonathan8di> But I'm having trouble getting everything up and working
[08:59] <jonathan8di> Especially JACK
[08:59] <Pelo> mrga,  that root@mrga is the command prompt,  did you enter the command I giave yo there ?   sudo chmod 777 /var ?
[08:59] <jonathan8di> I really don't know what I'm doing
[08:59] <mrga> i enterd 755,
[09:00] <jonathan8di> Any suggestions on where I should look for help?
[09:00] <betamax_> yell0w, it looks like either "gtypist" or "tipptrainer" is the program you need to run, try both of them in the terminal
[09:00] <southafrikanse> hello. I want to install pidgin. But my repository list doesn't find it
[09:00] <Pelo> mrga,  my mistake I did tell you 755,  and you still can'T boot the regular ubuntu ?
[09:00] <bulmer> yell0w: did you try info junior-typing or man junior-typing?
[09:00] <fox2mike> hey folks, need some help with fawn
[09:00] <mrga> after i type 777, than i should reboot
[09:00] <fox2mike> I have a sony vaio, and I can't get X to pick up a resolution higher than 800x600
[09:00] <betamax_> southafrikanse, pidgin is not yet in the feisty repos, you will have to go to the website and download the source code
[09:00] <Pelo> mrga,  yep,  sudo restart is the command
[09:00] <fox2mike> and at that res, I can't see the install buttons
[09:01] <mrga> ok i'll trz
[09:01] <southafrikanse> betamax_: thank you
[09:01] <DrDabbles> fox2mike, what version of ubuntu?
[09:01] <fox2mike> any suggestions?
[09:01] <VSpike> DrDabbles: Thanks - do you know if any will work with MS SQL Server?
[09:01] <youknowme> bulmer, I FOUND IT! Yay, I used the search  program at Places>Search. Thanks for your help!
[09:01] <alexandre> how can i find where is a program that is already installed in add/remove
[09:01] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: Fiesty Fawn
[09:02] <winnix> Hello
[09:02] <winnix> What is the version after Fiesty that is being worked on?
[09:02] <yell0w> betamax_, there's no command junior-typing, how can there be a manual ?
[09:02] <yell0w> :/
[09:02] <DrDabbles> Vspike, I have seen a novell project written in mono that is supposed to allow you to manage several types of SQL server, including MSSQL. I have not, however, tried to compile or run it. There are also no debian packages for it as far as I know
[09:02] <Pelo> alexandre, check the filtes at the top of the add/remove dialog, there is a  installed program selection
[09:02] <PP188> winnix: gusty?
[09:02] <DrDabbles> fox2mike, do you know what graphics chipset you have? Perhaps an intel built-in chipset?
[09:02] <betamax_> yell0w, it wasn't me who said that :) try running "gtypist" or "tipptrainer"
[09:03] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: gimme a minute, I'll find out the chipset
[09:03] <mrga> no i can't get normal boot
[09:03] <mailavj> help pls.. i'm not able to play VCDs i have mplayer and vlc installed in fiesty fdawn
[09:03] <Pelo> mrga,  what command did you use to change the permission on /var in the first place ?
[09:04] <VSpike> DrDabbles: thx :)
[09:04] <mrga> sudo chmod 755 /var
[09:04] <betamax_> winnix: it's Gutsy Gibbon i believe
[09:04] <yell0w> betamax_, tipptrainer might be it but it's asking for some other stuff
[09:04] <yell0w> bbl
[09:04] <Pelo> mrga, I mean befor you got the problem
[09:04] <needhelpnstuff> aloah, someone messed my computer up  no i get the message Grub error 17, i cant boot ubuntu OR XP
[09:04] <mrga> i login as root, and changed it manual
[09:04] <mrga> not with comand
[09:04] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff, hld on
[09:04] <betamax_> yell0w could you copy the output for me?
[09:04] <spencer28> HELO
[09:04] <Pelo> mrga,  how ?
[09:05] <needhelpnstuff> pelo k
[09:05] <spencer28> Anyone feeling like assisting with ubuntu internet connect problem?
[09:06] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff, how many hdd do you hve ?
[09:06] <mrga> on normal boot, i login as root, than i went to /vas, and right mouse click, chose preferences, and i chage permissions
[09:06] <Pelo> mrga,  then boot back as root , and go change the permissions back
[09:06] <mrga> how
[09:07] <Pelo> mrga,  how did you boot as root the first time around ?
[09:07] <needhelpnstuff> Pelo, afaik two
[09:07] <mrga> with recovery
[09:07] <efram> does Ubuntu normal install recuire mp3 codec to play mp3s?
[09:07] <protoloco> the diferences of /etc/group   and /etc/group- ?
[09:07] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff,  go in the bios and check that the boot order is still the same as before
[09:07] <DrDabbles> fox2mike, any luck?
[09:07] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: lspci tells me Intel Corp Mobile Integrated Graphics Controller
[09:08] <needhelpnstuff> i just typed fdisk -l its two HDs
[09:08] <Pelo> mrga, ...  can I ask why you change the /var permission to start with ?
[09:08] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: which isn't mighty helpful...
[09:08] <needhelpnstuff> one 40 gb hda1
[09:08] <mrga> because i couldn't save web site in /var/www
[09:08] <needhelpnstuff> and  250 with alots of partition
[09:08] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff, how much do you know about your computer ?
[09:08] <DrDabbles> fox2mike, Okay, then to get it working you will probably need 915resolution installed
[09:08] <needhelpnstuff> quite a lot
[09:08] <hwilde> anybody use a logitech cordless rumblepad ?
[09:08] <needhelpnstuff> why?
[09:09] <betamax_> efram: yes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 for more info
[09:09] <efram> betamax_:  thanks
[09:09] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: hrmm, off the livecd?
[09:09] <DrDabbles> fox2mike: That will modify what the video bios reports to X on boot, so it sees the higher resolution as available. Then you'll need to do the typical modify of the xorg.conf file.
[09:09] <DrDabbles> fox2mike: are you running the liveCD, or have you installled ubuntu?
[09:09] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: Livecd
[09:10] <snowy> how do u re-enable admin rights to a accocunt?
[09:10] <mrga> i think that there is no solution, so i need to reinstall , can i save somehow my archives,
[09:10] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff, just trying to get an idea of your skill level,  I was starting to wonder,   check in the bios to make sure your boot order is still the same as it was before, and if that doesn'T work , boot the live cd and see if all the partitions are as tehy are suppse to be
[09:10] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: I may need to get a binary i915 off another box and then run it here
[09:10] <snowy> account*
[09:10] <hwilde> anybody use a logitech cordless rumblepad ?
[09:10] <travis> should i go with ubuntu ultimate ?
[09:10] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: but then, the installer should be fixed to show buttons at 800x600 :)
[09:10] <Pelo> mrga, boot the live cd and eiter put your /home folder on a seperate partiton or back it up to a cd or smeting
[09:10] <praveen> how to backup all my repositories in Feisty fawn
[09:10] <praveen> ?
[09:10] <DrDabbles> fox2mike: Ah, that makes is much more difficult...actually getting the app installed and getting it to apply on the LiveCD, and then restarting X to change the resolution is...difficult.
[09:10] <jonathan8di> Does anyone know a good guide for setting up a midi synthesizer and sequencer?
[09:11] <mrga> i put live cd , but nothing happens,
[09:11] <Pelo> travis,  there is no advantage to ubuntu ultimate, it's just a repack of the official ubuntu,  get the regular ubuntu live cd
[09:11] <Pelo> mrga, how did you install ubuntu to start with ?
[09:11] <travis> is it stable?
[09:11] <mrga> live cd,
[09:11] <DrDabbles> fox2mike: I agree. I had the same issue with an nvidia chipset on my new AMD64 board...but I was able to install the kernel module and restart X. Still a REAL pain, and I don't think that would work too sell with the 915 stuff :-/
[09:12] <Pelo> mrga,you need to boot your cmputer after you put in the live cd
[09:12] <betamax_> does anyone here know regular expressions?
[09:12] <Pelo> travis, is what stable ?
[09:12] <zenbuntu> About to instal ubunto 7.04 on old computer with small 13GB disk. Can anyone tell me just how much space ubunto needs to be safe?
[09:12] <gerber^Cavesup> Anybody know a good irssi xmms plugin?
[09:12] <mrga> aha, ok, i'll try,
[09:12] <Terrasque> betamax_: i know some
[09:12] <mrga> cya
[09:12] <travis> pelo, im downloading ultimate because i only have 5.04 install cd and is ultimate stable ?
[09:12] <hwilde> betamax_, what kind of regex
[09:12] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: just tell me how I can completely kill and restart X, I have the rest covered
[09:12] <praveen> ?
[09:12] <Terrasque> zenbuntu: depends, a good guideline is around 5gb imo
[09:12] <praveen> ?
[09:12] <praveen> how to backup all my repositories in Feisty fawn ?
[09:13] <betamax_> whichever kind unix commands like grep and sed use
[09:13] <needhelpnstuff> Pelo, they are but someone deleted the partition with K-ubuntu on it which was installed on /hdb hda1 had Xp on it.as i said bootmanagement in bios is right, and both HDs are detected
[09:13] <needhelpnstuff> skill level in linux is not that high, its just a couple a commands know :D
[09:13] <hwilde> betamax_, what do you want to do with a regex
[09:13] <Pelo> travis,  why don'T you just get the 7.04 cd from the ubuntu.org site ? , and we donT' support ultimate here, it is not an official release
[09:13] <travis> o ok
[09:13] <zenbuntu> terrasque thanks that will do for the space that I have left thks
[09:13] <travis> when ever i donwloaded fiest fawn it never auto runs when i wanna install
[09:13] <mrga> pelo how can i put home folder to cd, if i can't get gnome
[09:13] <travis> ive also tried 6.06
[09:14] <DrDabbles> To restart X you can simply click Quit and then Log Out. If that doesn't totally restart X you can press CTRL+ALT+1 to get to terminal 1, and enter "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[09:14] <betamax_> hwilde, i want to use sed to examine the output from ls, and replace the line breaks with spaces, is this possible?
[09:14] <mrga> pelo how can i put home folder to cd, if i can't get gnome
[09:15] <DrDabbles> fox2mike: To restart X you can simply click Quit and then Log Out. If that doesn't totally restart X you can press CTRL+ALT+1 to get to terminal 1, and enter "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[09:15] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff,  the stage 2 grub is on the same partiton as your kbuntu  install , which is why you get an error,  you'll need to reinstall kubuntu , to get the full grub installed again and boot both os or restor the MRB to boot your windows
[09:15] <Pelo> mrga, you can do it from the live cd
[09:15] <fox2mike> DrDabbles: tried all that, but let's see
[09:15] <mrga> ok
[09:15] <fishing_guy> Hello,,ubuntu internet connectivity troubles,, any takers?
[09:15] <needhelpnstuff> mhm what if i dont want the kbunutu installed gain, is there no way to get grub installed only for XP?
[09:16] <stuart-> i'm having weird laggy/cubic playback with .wmv on my players. someone once recommended me some codec packages to make it play smoother, anyon ehave any idea what it is?
[09:16] <betamax_> hwilde, i already have some knowledge of regex, i just need to know what the character for a line break is
[09:16] <Pelo> needhelpnstuff, get the supergrub cd and restore the windows boot ,
[09:16] <Pelo> !grub | needhelpnstuff
[09:16] <ubotu> needhelpnstuff: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:16] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: ubuntu specific, or any PC on the network?
[09:16] <carthik> fishing_guy, what seems to be the problem? Describe it as best as you can. Thats a good way to get takers. :)
[09:16] <travis> when ever i donwload the iso off ubuntu.org for fiesty fawn or 6.06 when i startup with the cd in the drive it never starts frmo ti why is that ?
[09:16] <needhelpnstuff> allright thank
[09:16] <DrDabbles> carthik: Nice. :-)
[09:16] <hwilde> betamax_, \n
[09:17] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: just ubuntu
[09:17] <alexluft> Hi there! Linux/Ubuntu newb here.  just installed Feisty Fawn on an AMD Dell system.  I'm on a 22" monitor and can't seem to figure out how to boost my resolution higher than 800x600.  I have integrated gfx.
[09:17] <carthik> travis, you probably wrote the iso as a file to the cd - you have to burn from the iso, using it as a disk image
[09:17] <betamax_> hwilde, thank you, will that work with sed?
[09:17] <travis> but with the cds i got in the mail liek 2 years ago everything is fine but its an old version
[09:17] <efram> ummm lol.. how do I brows network? im using default Xfce
[09:17] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Ok, let's hear the problem description.
[09:17] <Pelo> travis,  what is your video card ?
[09:17] <fishing_guy> Carthik: I got the info u need I think. I wrote it all down.
[09:17] <travis> noop everything there
[09:17] <travis> ooo no clue
[09:17] <carthik> fishing_guy, lets have it then - straight to the problem.
[09:17] <travis> standerd dell inspiron 1300
[09:17] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: cannot ping router
[09:17] <alesan> hi, how do I learn how to make a ubuntu package for my program? thanks
[09:18] <Pelo> travis,  for computers wth nvidia and ati card you'll need to use the alternate install cd , which is text based
[09:18] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Does the PC have an IP address? Which version of Ubuntu?
[09:18] <travis> can i do it ?
[09:18] <carthik> travis, you should read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto too
[09:18] <travis> ok thank you guys
[09:18] <hoarycripple> i have 2 SATA drives on an adaptec SAS/SATA controller (aic94xx) how do i get ubuntu to recognize them?
[09:18] <fishing_guy> Drabbles, Carthik: ubuntu 7.0.4 I think.
[09:19] <ahmadsaifan> how do i install themes from the beryl site: http://themes.beryl-project.org/    ????????????????/
[09:19] <hypl> does anyone know how to move a mantis install from one server to another
[09:19] <Jack_Sparrow> hoarycripple: Are they setup as raid?
[09:19] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Does the PC have an IP address?
[09:19] <hoarycripple> Jack_Sparrow, no they are not
[09:19] <Pelo> alesan, can you be a little more specific, what do you mean make your own packages ?
[09:19] <sherkin> Hi,
[09:19] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: yes,,
[09:19] <reallyjoel> are there hotkeys for switching desktops?
[09:19] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: What is the IP address you have?
[09:19] <kel39ru> hi@all! :P is there any command, that would show ur some hardware specifications. Like more adwanced info about CPU. For example i know that my cpu is AMD Athlon 1800+, and it's running on 1533mhz, but i have no idea about more detailed info is it Palomino, Thoroughbred or Thorton. Or do i have to go to bios for it?:)
[09:19] <sherkin> What would be the best way to install emacs 22 in feisty ?
[09:19] <fishing_guy> 192.168.0.0
[09:20] <Jack_Sparrow> reallyjoel: ctrl-alt left or right arrow
[09:20] <Pelo> reallyjoel,  check in menu > system > prefs > keybaord shorcuts, they are listed there
[09:20] <reallyjoel> thanks
[09:20] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: well thats the thing,, the routing tables are not displaying properly.
[09:20] <n0ur> hmm, hey guys i have a question : i want to download ubuntu, but i get dc alot, so i download it using ftp client ( i already got filezilla ) but i don't know how to go from there.. help?
[09:20] <aleph1> hello everyone. I am having problems with the ftpd-ssl package. it seems to ignore the /etc/ftpchroot file or else chrooting fails for some other reasen. do any of you know what I should try?
[09:20] <ahmadsaifan> how can i isntall themes form this site? http://themes.beryl-project.org/
[09:20] <fishing_guy> Drabbles:  how do I add an entry?
[09:20] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  ask in #beryl
[09:20] <n0ur> wow, alot of ppl asking..
[09:20] <ThatLazyGuy> after switching my default file manager from nautilus to thunar, the desktop icons disapeared
[09:20] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[09:20] <sahil> hey i cant update my stytem
[09:20] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: I presume the IP of the router is 192.168.0.1 or something like that? And yours is actually 192.168.0.2?
[09:21] <Pelo> n0ur,  and very few ppl answering
[09:21] <n0ur> xD, hope i can help :S
[09:21] <Pelo> sahil,  are you sure there are updates available ?
[09:21] <alexluft> Don't know if anyone saw my question but how do I install integrated gfx drivers?  Just installed 7.04 and thinking of leaving Windows
[09:21] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: router 192.168.0.1
[09:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sahil: Have you ever used the script automatix or envy...?
[09:21] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: before adding a routing entry (will be done by DHCP usuallly) you need to get the computer pinging the router
[09:21] <hoarycripple> Jack_Sparrow, do I have to set them up as RAID?
[09:21] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: ip 192.168.0.102
[09:21] <Pelo> n0ur, run while you can't you donT' want to get trapped here
[09:21] <Jack_Sparrow> hoarycripple: no... but that plug in sata controller may be an issue
[09:21] <sahil> yeah cuz i just reinstalled and plus the upgrade manager says that there are 122 MB of updates
[09:21] <aleph1> hello everyone. I am having problems with the ftpd-ssl package. it seems to ignore the /etc/ftpchroot file or else chrooting fails for some other reason. do any of you know what I should try?
[09:21] <fishing_guy> Drabbles: ok great
[09:21] <aleph1> oops sorry
[09:22] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Did you set the IP by hand, or by DHCP?
[09:22] <sahil> no i have not used automztix or envy, but i don't mind giving it  a try
[09:22] <carthik> alexluft, are you running feisty, and what is your video card?
[09:22] <hoarycripple> Jack_Sparrow, can you please clarify?  my BIOS recognizes the drives just fine.
[09:22] <Pelo> sahil,  the idea is donT' give them a try
[09:22] <MC_> im haveing a problem with installing ubunto
[09:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sahil: Bad ideas
[09:22] <TimeRider41> best way to install the nvidia drivers on recent cards, just the restricted nvidia driver yeah? or?? anything better yet?
[09:22] <Pelo> sahl why can't you update are you getting any error msg ?
[09:22] <sahil> Pelo, ok, then lets not try them, lol
[09:22] <Mishu> What is the way to have script in init.d to run at reboot?
[09:22] <sahil> Pelo, yes i get an error message
[09:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix sahil:
[09:22] <Pelo> MC_, what problem ?
[09:22] <alexluft> carthik, I'm runny Feisty and no card; just intergrated on an AMD Athlon 64
[09:22] <Mishu> i mean at default runlevel ?
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix > sahil:
[09:23] <Pelo> sahil,  mind sharing with the group
[09:23] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  that was unneccessary
[09:23] <MC_> iit will not prtition the hard drive
[09:23] <carthik> alexluft, the integrated card should have a name - the point is not all cards support OpenGL or 3D acceleration
[09:23] <Jack_Sparrow> hoarycripple: Bios sees them fine...  and you dont see them running livecd?
[09:23] <Harkins> What's the name of the package the console installer is in?
[09:23] <TimeRider41> MC: how large is the drive?
[09:23] <Pelo> MC_, try partitionning it manualy before starting the installer,  from menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor
[09:23] <sahil> it says could not get lock/var/cache/apt/archives/lock-open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) and E: Ubavle to lock the download directory
[09:24] <MC_> 250 gig
[09:24] <Mishu> What is the way to have script in init.d to run at reboot?
[09:24] <alexluft> carthik: let me look to find out; one sec
[09:24] <TimeRider41> and what's the largest partition you're trying to make?
[09:24] <TimeRider41> cos there's a bug in the GUI installed if partition is too lare
[09:24] <Pelo> sahil,  you need to close down all other package manager  synaptic , add/remove etc
[09:24] <MC_> the drive is empty so ithought i would jusy use it all= swap
[09:25] <hoarycripple> Jack_Sparrow, let me clarify my setup; I have an SAS controller and SATA controllers.  I have the boot device hooked to SATA0, and my storage hooked to SAS0 (node 0 and 1).
[09:25] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Did you set the IP by hand, or by DHCP?
[09:25] <sahil> Pelo, yup everything is closed, only Update manager and irc and gaim are open
[09:25] <kel39ru> so, it looks like theres no such a command huh?:)
[09:25] <TimeRider41> MC: it's the gnome partition tool that's the problem
[09:25] <Pelo> sahil, well something is still opened,  try rebooting the computer, open noting and just run the update manager
[09:25] <TimeRider41> MC, do you really need to add a swap part of 250gb?
[09:25] <praveen> hi TimeRider41
[09:25] <TimeRider41> hiya praveen
[09:25] <TimeRider41> hope you're not a bot
[09:25] <sahil> Pelo, will try and be back in 2 min
[09:25] <TimeRider41> lol
[09:25] <praveen> do u know how to backup all my repositories in Feisty fawn ?
[09:25] <hoarycripple> Jack_Sparrow, so I can boot fine. but it wont recognize the two devices on SAS0
[09:26] <MC_> no i thioght it was needed
[09:26] <TimeRider41> MC, is this your first time with ubuntu? or?
[09:26] <Pelo> TimeRider41, maybe he as 150 gig or ram
[09:26] <Pelo> of
[09:26] <david__> whats the latest version of gnome?
[09:26] <MC_> 1st time trying this
[09:26] <alexluft> carthik: how do I find out from within Ubuntu?
[09:26] <TimeRider41> pelo: that'd be nice :)
[09:26] <Pelo> david__,  2.18 I think , check the gnome site
[09:26] <JohnShortland> MC_: How much ram have you?
[09:26] <MC_> 2gig ram
[09:26] <savvas> praveen, the repositories are in: /etc/apt/
[09:26] <MC_> Amd 64 bit
[09:26] <david__> Pelo: i did, but on one mag i have they talk about 2.8....
[09:26] <carthik> alexluft, lspci | grep graphics -- or use the command lshw and then read the output
[09:27] <praveen> savvas: which file to copy ?
[09:27] <JohnShortland> david__: gnome 2.20 will be in gutsy gibbon
[09:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hoarycripple: I understand but I dont have any suggestions on the sas controller...
[09:27] <savvas> david__, www.gnome.org ?
[09:27] <Pelo> david__,  the current gnome running on fiesty is 2.18.1
[09:27] <hoarycripple> ok, no problem
[09:27] <hoarycripple> clear
[09:27] <hoarycripple> oops
[09:27] <TimeRider41> MC, you ran Ubuntu before?
[09:27] <TimeRider41> cos of not, I'd advise letting it partition for you
[09:28] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: Sorry, I have the blasted "a network cable is unplugged" error on this xp
[09:28] <TimeRider41> but to anyone trying to partition on install, who wants more than 220GB for one partition, the partition tool is screwed
[09:28] <david__> when is gusty gibbon being released?
[09:28] <savvas> praveen, well sources.list is the main file
[09:28] <JohnShortland> david__: mid oct
[09:28] <MC_> only from the disc it worked well
[09:28] <xanith> Can someone help me with dual screen in ubuntu
[09:28] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: Can we continue now?
[09:28] <TimeRider41> sources.list is just a list of the repositories
[09:28] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Not the same computer you're trying ubuntu on, right?
[09:28] <Symmetria>  hrm, can someone give me awk format to match the last field in a line (space delimited, number of fields is variable)
[09:28] <TimeRider41> so does he wanna backup THE files downloaded via apt, or just the repository list
[09:28] <david__> what will it be like going from 7.04 to gusty gibbon?
[09:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[09:28] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[09:28] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: yes,, dual boot
[09:29] <david__> do i need to format or a updte is simple?
[09:29] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Did you set the IP by hand, or by DHCP?
[09:29] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: 1 nic
[09:29] <alexluft> carthik: it doesn't show up there; I know it's integrated; let me look on Dell's site to give you the specs
[09:29] <JohnShortland> david__: compiz fusion will be installed by default, newer gnome, newer kernel
[09:29] <r_rehashed> where do all the .deb packages d/loaded get stored?
[09:29] <wayoutthere> Is anyone here good with MAME ROMS? Please pvt me if so I need some help.
[09:29] <david__> JohnShortland: but do i need a fresh install or can i upgrade from 7.04?
[09:29] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: well I am still learning how to properly setup a static ip in my router and all that but I have tried both ways
[09:29] <attunix> can synaptic install .tar.gz packages i downloaded?
[09:30] <r_rehashed> i am using Feisty
[09:30] <TimeRider41>  - /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:30] <reallyjoel> Can I list all my installed libraries? Thining specifically of my SDL-libraries.
[09:30] <TimeRider41> should be there I think
[09:30] <r_rehashed> TimeRider41: k. thanks
[09:30] <savvas> david__, you can always upgrade from an old version using the alternate version of iso
[09:30] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Ok, so, essentially, what you expect is that you'll plug in your PC and it will automagically get an IP like it does in Windows?
[09:30] <alexluft> carthik: nVidia GeForce 6150 LE integrated graphics drivers
[09:30] <JohnShortland> david__: to upgrade from feisty to gutsy when it comes out all you have to do is type at a terminal: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and it'll install gutsy
[09:30] <savvas> !alternate
[09:30] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:31] <carthik> oh okay, alexluft.
[09:31] <xanith> Is xinerama the better solution to multihead setups?
[09:31] <TimeRider41> The alternative CD is also included as a menu option with the DVD .iso
[09:31] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: yes,, I had ubuntu workin great. No internet problems. Then it just stopped
[09:31] <carthik> alexluft, the easiest way is to try System->Preferences->Desktop Effects and to try and enable that option.
[09:31] <TimeRider41> fishing, more than one network card?
[09:31] <systemd0wn> Question, anyone know of some good open source linux biometrics software?  (face, fingerprint, perhaps voice)
[09:32] <savvas> TimeRider41, yes, but for those that don't have 1gbit/s connections, alternate is easier :p
[09:32] <fishing_guy2222> I just had one network card
[09:32] <ambassada> 
[09:32] <carlo> Is there any way to make system event messages like hardware errors NOT to show on terminals?
[09:32] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: The fact that you have issues in windows and ubuntu most likely indicates something is wrong with either your NIC or your router. I'd try it with a different NIC or a friend's laptop to see if the problem persists.
[09:32] <alexluft> carthik, let me try that
[09:33] <praveen> savvas: u there ?
[09:33] <savvas> carlo, sure, try grep or pcregrep :)
[09:33] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: Dam dude,, I gotto goto the brick right away.
[09:33] <savvas> praveen, yep
[09:33] <attunix> can synaptic package manager install .tar.gz packages i downloaded?
[09:33] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: Can I email u?
[09:33] <DrDabbles> drdabbles: Sure. tom@drdabbles.us
[09:33] <JohnShortland> attunix: no it cant
[09:33] <savvas> attunix, negative
[09:33] <attunix> ok
[09:34] <erUSUL> attunix: no, you shouldn't install software from tar.gz. Are you sure the program is not in repos?
[09:34] <JohnShortland> attunix: what are you trying to install
[09:34] <savvas> attunix, try and find a .deb alternative package
[09:34] <praveen> savvas: which file to copy for backing up my repositories
[09:34] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy: Oops. Typed that to myself. tom#drdabbles.us.
[09:34] <attunix> savvas: The latest version of Gambas; the one in the repos gives me Windows-style buttons, not gnome-style ones.
[09:34] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: Hey thanks so much for the efforts. Something is wacked out. Learned allot today though.
[09:34] <savvas> praveen, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <fishing_guy2222> Drabbles: TTYL
[09:35] <alexluft> carthik, i clicked the enable desktop effects button and then it went "gray" for a minute and came back just how it was; still can't up the resolution higher than 800x600
[09:35] <nibblesmx> I just did something really stupid. I'm using feisty and I "upgraded" by hand libc6 to gutsy's version. Now my devel packages are gone, and I have a bunch of broken packages, and I can't downlograde libc6 to feisty's version. What can I do?
[09:35] <r_rehashed> TimeRider41: i see only some of the debs there. and i have specified insynaptic to delete only old versions of the debs
[09:35] <ZumA> www.mynet.com
[09:35] <DrDabbles> fishing_guy222: That's what's important.
[09:35] <savvas> attunix, version?
[09:36] <praveen> savvas: but i want all the package installation files
[09:36] <carlo> savvas how can I use grep to do that?
[09:36] <attunix> savvas: the one in repos is 1.0.15. I want to install 1.0.19, which hopefully fixes the interface problem.
[09:36] <carthik> alexluft, to tweak the resolution is more involved, but do you now have wobbly windows?
[09:36] <Pelo> nibblesmx,  to into synaptic, remvoe the gutsy repos,  find the pacakage,  right click andsee the options
[09:36] <carlo> isnt grep about showing things, not hiding them?
[09:37] <carlo> im not too savvy
[09:37] <alexluft> nope, just how it was before. What I was "complaining" about before was that I have a 22" display and not making very good use of it at that res
[09:37] <savvas> carlo, grep can help you get what you need, match it with a specific text. www.regular-expressions.info - you'll have to learn regular expressions and read the: man grep
[09:37] <carlo> ok thanks
[09:38] <nibblesmx> Pelo: I don't have any gutsy repos. When I said by hand, I ment manually downloading libc6 package and installing it with gdebi
[09:38] <Pelo> nibblesmx,  the rest of the suggestion should work as well
[09:39] <savvas> praveen: oh sorry, i think what you need is aptoncd or backuppc. from the menu: applications > add/remove > type aptoncd and try it
[09:39] <Pelo> nibblesmx,  when you right click on a package in synaptic you get the option to install earlier versions,  might be in the properties dialog
[09:40] <savvas> praveen still there? :)
[09:40] <carthik> alexluft, to change your resolution, you first have to know what the horizontal and vertical refresh rates supported by your monitor are. Once you know that, get back to me
[09:40] <Pelo> savvas, you scared him off
[09:40] <alexluft> carthik: ok
[09:40] <nibblesmx> Pelo: thanks a LOT man. I owe you a cold one :D
[09:40] <zirra-meeting> Ok, my USB mouse works oddly in X.  It seems to move fine, but click events don't seem to kick off at hte correct times when I click and drag.  Anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[09:41] <stuart-> ah, disconnected..
[09:41] <stuart-> i'm having weird laggy/cubic playback with .wmv on my players. someone once recommended me some codec packages to make it play smoother, anyon ehave any idea what it is?
[09:41] <harveyd> whats the default password when you install mysql with synaptic
[09:41] <Pelo> alexluft, just look at the lable at the back of your monitor
[09:41] <harveyd> daleharvey@daleharvey-laptop:/opt/SVN/spriki/trunk/lib$ mysql -uroot -h localhost -p
[09:41] <harveyd> Enter password:
[09:41] <harveyd> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:41] <Pelo> zirra-meeting,  search for the model and number in the forum see if there are any recommendations,    www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:42] <nilsgodecke> does ammybody know how to get the ES1978 Maestro 2E soundcard to work accurate in ubuntu?
[09:42] <alexluft> carthik: this? 75 Hz x 83 kHz
[09:42] <Pelo> harveyd, try your ubuntu username and password
[09:42] <harveyd> yeh that was my first shot
[09:42] <Pelo> nilsgodecke, I'm assuming this is not an onboard card ?
[09:42] <southafrikanse> hello once again: I need help configuring wine
[09:42] <zirra-meeting> Sigh.. my wireless keeps disconnecting too.
[09:42] <zirra-meeting> I dont know why.
[09:43] <nilsgodecke> Pelo it is, i have a compaq armada m700 laptop
[09:43] <harveyd> my wireless does every hour or so
[09:43] <Pelo> southafrikanse,  as usual we need specifics
[09:43] <southafrikanse> Pelo: Tell me what you need
[09:43] <Pelo> nilsgodecke, look up your model in this list see if anyting is mentionned  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:43] <Pelo> southafrikanse,  how about the actual problem ?
[09:44] <carthik> alexluft, great, alexluft, the first is the vertical rate and the second (83 khz) is the horizontal refresh rate. I hope you did not read them off the monitor's on screen display, because that would be what it is at right now :)
[09:44] <vocx> For reference, here is a web page explaining what "Error Loading Operating System" means. A proof that it is not a Linux error. It happened before in Windows. http://whocares.de/2004/12/28/error-loading-operating-system/
[09:44] <harveyd> http://pastebin.com/m2f312947
[09:44] <alexluft> carthik: off Dell's website
[09:44] <carthik> alexluft, we really could use the range of rates, but this works just as well.
[09:44] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: I've already tried that.  I haven't found anything similar to the problem I'm having.
[09:44] <southafrikanse> Pelo: I've installed wine so I can play Counter Strike
[09:45] <Pelo> southafrikanse,  go and inquire in #winehq
[09:45] <Pelo> zirra-meeting,  what is the actual nature of the problem just so I know what we need to fix ?
[09:45] <savvas> attunix, i see 1.0.18-2 in ubuntu universe repository ;)
[09:45] <sahil> pelo, it worked
[09:45] <Pelo> sahil, congrats
[09:46] <sahil> i have another problem. I have Nexiuz, but it doenst open or ask me how to open it
[09:46] <carthik> alexluft, so now we have to reconfigure the xorg server. to start use the command $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  Choose the default options, except - choose "nv" as the graphics driver, and in the end, when it asks you whether you want simple, medium or advanced to configure the monitor, choose advanced and then use the refresh rate info you know.
[09:46] <carthik> alexluft, once you are done reconfiguring xserver-xorg, you can restart X by closing all apps and then doing a ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:46] <sahil> it just opens it up in a text editor, and when i drag it onto the terminal it says permission denied
[09:46] <Pelo> sahil,  I hve no idea wht nexiuz is so you'll hve od tell me
[09:46] <sahil> Pelo, my previous problem was that i couldnt update
[09:46] <alexluft> carthik: let me try that; thanks
[09:46] <sahil> Nexiuz is a game for Linux, quake-like
[09:47] <Pelo> sahil,   cd to the foler where it is , then   sudo chmod 755 filename
[09:47] <carthik> alexluft, you're welcome. I will be around when you pop back in
[09:47] <exyan> if I try to connect to an ubuntu share from my windows machine it asks me for a login and password, how the hell do I know it? I didn't set anything
[09:47] <sahil> difference between 744 and 755?
[09:47] <kitche> exyan: well you need to set it :)
[09:47] <exyan> kitche where/how ;p
[09:48] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: When I click to drag a window, select text, etc, its as if the click happens a few seconds AFTER I actually click.
[09:48] <Pelo> sahil,  5 is read execute ,  4 is just read
[09:48] <kitche> exyan: man sbmpass will tell you
[09:48] <sahil> Pelo, works like a charm
[09:48] <exyan> smbpass* ?
[09:48] <sahil> Pelo, thats a lot
[09:48] <Pelo> sahil,  no prob
[09:48] <kitche> exyan: I would look it up myself butr anymore I just use scp
[09:49] <exyan> kitche and there's no man for that :P
[09:49] <exyan> and I'll just use scp myself, thx for the tip
[09:49] <Pelo> zirra-meeting,  ok sorry I got confused abit I thought you were the sound card,  sounds like your mouse is laggin,  maybe try another usb port to make sure it is  full speed, or smeting, I donT' realy know
[09:49] <Pelo> nilsgodecke,  I don'T allow private msg , please talk to me in the channel
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> I did try another usb port.
[09:50] <f0rqu3> how do I disable minimize effect
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> no difference.
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> I'm having that problem, as well as having the problem with my wireless disconnecting repeatedly.
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> It connects fine and works fine, but after a while it just disconnects.
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> and won't reconnect.
[09:50] <carthik> f0rqu3, what wm are you using? are you using compiz, or compiz fusion?
[09:50] <Pelo> zirra-meeting,  is your wireless usb as well ?
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> No.
[09:50] <f0rqu3> gimp
[09:50] <Pelo> could have explained it
[09:50] <f0rqu3> minimize to taskbar
[09:50] <nilsgodecke> Pelo, ok, sorry, well it is not on the list, what is there to do next ?
[09:50] <zirra-meeting> It could have. ;)  But alas.
[09:50] <carthik> zirra-meeting, please try and type one long message, instead of one sentence over several message :)
[09:50] <kitche> exyan: told you wrong command anyways :)
[09:51] <Pelo> zirra-meeting,  pleas repeat your questions periodicaly,  I cannot help you but maybe someone else can
[09:51] <kitche> exyan: smbpasswd https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html#windows-networking-server has more about it
[09:51] <carthik> f0rqu3, gimp is not a window manager. Are you using compiz?
[09:51] <Pelo> nilsgodecke, did you look for the computer or the card ?
[09:51] <f0rqu3> gnome :D
[09:51] <hekman> anybody have any ideas on good exchange calendar clients other than evolution?  (or is there such a thing)
[09:51] <nilsgodecke> Pelo, the computer
[09:51] <carthik> f0rqu3, okay, then what do you mean by removing the minimize effect?
[09:52] <zirra-meeting> I'm having two problems.  One, my mouse clicks on my usb logitech track ball seem to lag behind by a second or two.  Two, my wireless network disconnects every once in a while and won't reconnect no matter what I do (when it connects it works fine, so I know that the WPA keys are correct).
[09:52] <Pelo> nilsgodecke, ok,  how do you mean the soundcard is not working properly anyway, can we get some specifics ?
[09:52] <f0rqu3> hit the minimize button of a window
[09:52] <jamesstansell> !backport
[09:52] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[09:52] <riyonuk> How do I install fonts? Cause I wish to install the first one, www.proggyfonts.com/index.php?menu=download, buy am unsure on which file to download
[09:52] <f0rqu3> it goes to the taskbar with an ugly effect
[09:52] <Alloosh> oh my god, guys I lost the network, when I click the network icon I dont see the eth0 and eth1 what happened?
[09:52] <Pelo> zirra-meeting, try searching the forum for lagging usb mouse , maybe that will help , or just usb mouse
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> hekman: what other calendar apps have you looked at/
[09:53] <erUSUL> Alloosh: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[09:53] <hekman> IndyGunFreak: Just Evolution
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[09:53] <hekman> but it has to interface with exchange :(
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> hekman: orage maybe?
[09:54] <xiambax> what would you say the best media play for linux would be theses days
[09:54] <nilsgodecke> Pelo, the soundcar is a ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10), it "playes" only some nois, bot really anny sound, tryed to play a cd, but could only here some noise.
[09:54] <xiambax> closest thing i say itunes
[09:54] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: thatswhat I'm searching for already.  I'm finding plenty of usb problems, but not that one.
[09:54] <Pelo> !sound | nilsgodecke try this first
[09:54] <carthik> f0rqu3, okay. I think you might be using compiz after all. You can change how that happens in the gconf-editor. fo rthis, type alt+f2 and then type gconf-editor and press enter. this will bring up the configuration editor. Now you have to choose "apps"->"compiz" and then find the option that controls the minimize effect and change it to none.
[09:54] <ubotu> nilsgodecke try this first: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> !calendar
[09:54] <ubotu> calendar is at http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event
[09:55] <Curs0r> !emulators
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emulators - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <hekman> i am afraid i am stuck with evolution
[09:55] <Curs0r> where can I get a pcsx2 0.9.3 package?
[09:55] <Pelo> Curs0r, google, it'S on their site
[09:56] <Curs0r> Pelo, I can't get it to build
[09:57] <Pelo> Curs0r, as I recall you donT' have much to build,  lyou just run it,  I helped someone with that a while back   , but he needed to get a few extra packages from the site to get the cd and stuffworking properly
[09:58] <Pelo> Curs0r,  jsut read the readme and install files in the package
[09:58] <Alloos1> I restarted network and it disconnected me from the net
[09:58] <matthew_> anyone know any good language learning software for linux
[09:59] <Pelo> zirra-meeting, I'm getting a lot of forum resluts on "usb mouse lag"  maybe those can help you
[09:59] <alexluft> carthik: when I try to run the command in Terminal it tells me it must be run as root; I'm logged on as administrator
[09:59] <erUSUL> alexluft: use sudo
[09:59] <IndyGunFreak> hekman: what calendar app did you use w/ Windows?
[09:59] <n00dl3> alexluft: ...administrator?
[10:00] <hekman> IndyGunFreak: Outlook :)
[10:00] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: I'm reading through them still, but so far none of them are relative.
[10:00] <IndyGunFreak> hekman: could you run it under Wine?
[10:00] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: The mouse itself isn't laggy... only clicking is.
[10:00] <hekman> IndyGunFreak: but I want to use mutt for my email and something else for calendaring
[10:00] <hekman> IndyGunFreak: kinda defeats the purpose :)
[10:00] <IndyGunFreak> i see... was just brainstorming..
[10:00] <hekman> yeah
[10:00] <carthik> alexluft, so you must run it with sudo before it - as $sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:00] <hekman> i mean i can use Evolution, but it's a little bloated for what I want to do
[10:01] <Pelo> zirra-meeting maybe jsut checking in the mouse settings for dbl click speed ans tuff like that if available
[10:01] <alexluft> carthik: ok, let me try
[10:01] <alexluft> carthik: same thing
[10:01] <f0rqu3> carthik, go to Applications/System Tools/Configuration editor/apps/metacity/general/ and check the box reduced-resources hope this helps.
[10:02] <carthik> f0rqu3, ??
[10:02] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: actually, using the double click timeout checker (clicking the little lightbulb) it works -great-.  It seems to only be when I click and drag.
[10:02] <vocx> For reference, here is a web page explaining what "Error Loading Operating System" means. A proof that it is not a Linux error. It happened before in Windows. http://whocares.de/2004/12/28/error-loading-operating-system/
[10:02] <carthik> alexluft, well, that should work, since that is how you can run a command as the root user.
[10:03] <Pelo> zirra-meeting,  you have reached the end of my troubleshooting skills, please move on to the next helper
[10:03] <ralphius> ik ben moe
[10:03] <zirra-meeting> Pelo: thanks anyways :/
[10:03] <IndyGunFreak> !german
[10:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:03] <ubuntu> Hi
[10:03] <snowy> D: how do u readd urself to the root list
[10:03] <Rowan`> OMG UBUNTU IS TALKING
[10:03] <snowy> so u can perform sudo?
[10:04] <GNine> AI
[10:04] <Bensel> snowy: edit /etc/sudoers
[10:04] <Curs0r> I see, it's not building because it doesn't see that I have Cg
[10:04] <GNine> lol
[10:04] <alexluft> carthik: ok, thanks for the help, ill think on it'
[10:04] <ubuntu> My computer died. I've removed the HDD and put it in a USB enclosure (which boots). However, X doesnt start. I'm running from a LiveCD and it works, any ideas on getting the HDD version to work?
[10:04] <Pelo> later folks
[10:04] <Bensel> Anyone know how to get microphone recording not to be ridiculously quiet on 6.06 with an HDA Intel card?
[10:04] <carthik> alexluft, no problem
[10:04] <JeevesMoss> #can someone help me figure out why I can't connect to my ISPconfig admin page?
[10:05] <matthew_> anyone know any good language learning software for linux
[10:05] <snowy> Bensel:i dont have admin rights
[10:05] <david__> matthew english
[10:05] <Bensel> snowy: Uhhh, get the admin to do it? :P
[10:05] <pvl> someone know how to set up microphones to record
[10:05] <snowy> i am the admin D:
[10:05] <ubuntu> I think i basically need to reset all the drivers as though it were a new install
[10:05] <snowy> thats the thing
[10:05] <Bensel> pvl: Yes
[10:05] <snowy> i kept miss typing the password >< at like 3 am
[10:05] <Bensel> snowy: Then do su and enter root's password
[10:05] <snowy> after the third time
[10:05] <snowy> my computer locked up
[10:05] <n00dl3> snowy: sudo maybe
[10:05] <snowy> i tried that =\
[10:06] <Xteven> hi, does ubuntu have a tool to do video tutorials with audio, but without having to use flash ?
[10:06] <snowy> sudo stopped working all together
[10:06] <zirra-meeting> I'm having two problems.  One, my mouse clicks on my usb logitech track ball seem to lag behind by a second or two.  Two, my wireless network disconnects every once in a while and won't reconnect no matter what I do (when it connects it works fine, so I know that the WPA keys are correct).
[10:06] <pvl> besnsel when i speak into my microphone the sound goes out onto my speaker, but no program will record
[10:06] <timposey_> Hello trying to run Kino and getting the message "dv1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to read/write /dev/dv1394/0"
[10:06] <n00dl3> snowy: ahhh what did you do? :P
[10:06] <kitche> snowy: sounds like you locked yourself out of sudo
[10:06] <Bensel> pvl: It's probably ridiculously quiet on recording
[10:06] <Bensel> Which is my problem atm
[10:06] <snowy> i think i did >.<
[10:06] <Bensel> And is why I'm here >_>
[10:06] <snowy> everything under system >admin
[10:06] <snowy> most the stuff is gone there D:
[10:06] <pvl> besnel no everything is sky high
[10:06] <Curs0r> zerogs.h:37:21: error: Cg/cgGL.h: No such file or directory what package do I need for that?
[10:06] <Falstius> silly full screen games don't like my dual monitors.
[10:06] <kitche> snowy: what does groups say in a terminal?
[10:07] <Bensel> Try recording music ridiculously loudly with the microphone up to the speaker and see if anything comes out
[10:07] <snowy> ?
[10:07] <david__> can anyone tell me it the themes under system-preferences-themes are gtk or metacity? and where can i download more?
[10:07] <Bensel> That's what I had to do to tell that my microphone was just ueberquiet for some reason
[10:07] <snowy> i cant even write a cd its that bad D:
[10:07] <Bensel> snowy: Use the Ubuntu boot CD, mount your hard drive, and edit /etc/sudoers from there
[10:07] <killown> (synaptic:13299): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[10:07] <killown> can anyone help me?
[10:08] <pvl> besnel no nothing records at all
[10:08] <snowy> thats the thing...
[10:08] <snowy> i dont have the original install disc...
[10:08] <snowy> thats in hawaii...
[10:08] <Bensel> Then download damn small linux or something
[10:08] <snowy> i left it there while i was visiting >.<
[10:08] <Bensel> Wait, no CD-burn ability
[10:08] <snowy> i cant burn discs D:
[10:08] <Bensel> Fleh
[10:08] <Bensel> 16:08 < pvl> besnel no nothing records at all
[10:08] <Bensel> Tried switching input source from mic to front mic and back quickly?
[10:09] <pvl> besnel how do i do that?
[10:09] <Bensel> run alsamixer in a terminal
[10:09] <pvl> bensel i have only 1 mic plug on the back
[10:09] <Bensel> So do I
[10:09] <Bensel> But Ubuntu's sound support is terrible, so...
[10:09] <snowy> D: does anyone know how i could do it without needing a cd?
[10:10] <Bensel> (not to troll, it just is, I have yet to have a non-rip-my-eyes-out experience with sound on Linux)
[10:10] <mheath> Bensel, Sounds like you have a few soundcards that are coincidentally all poorly supported.
[10:10] <david__> snowy i once heard of a prog to access the linux fylesystem from win[explore2fs] 
[10:11] <pvl> besnel i agree, second time i hvae to deal with this, last time was my ac97-laptop but i got that working
[10:11] <OuechMaisNonch> hi all
[10:11] <mheath> Most sound cards work very well, out of the box now.
[10:11] <Bensel> mheath: Meh
[10:11] <vocx> zirra-meeting, the wireless error may be due to a bad driver, a bug in the driver or hardware. To fix it you really need to provide more info. I would suggest you treat your problems (mouse and wireless) separately to avoid confusions.
[10:11] <mheath> My two laptops and two desktops all have sound that works perfectly in Linux
[10:11] <snowy> david__: yea... but the thing is i cant burn discs
[10:11] <mheath> And they're all just random computers purchased at Best Buy
[10:11] <Bensel> Interesting coincidence that a sorta-random sample of six sound cards has failed up to now
[10:11] <OuechMaisNonch> anyone knows how to incerase the number of lignes scrolled by the mouse wheel please?
[10:11] <vocx> !enter | Bensel
[10:11] <ubotu> Bensel: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:11] <david__> snowy, start win and download it
[10:11] <david__> no need to burn
[10:12] <Bensel> ubotu: Sorry
[10:12] <ubotu> It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[10:12] <snowy> ?
[10:12] <MarcoPau> I'm recording with audacity and I get a loud beep as background, do you know what it could be?
[10:12] <snowy> what do u mean ?
[10:12] <david__> it is a program
[10:12] <david__> no a live cd
[10:12] <pvl> mean ur recording is too loud
[10:12] <Bensel> Another question then
[10:13] <david__> MarcoPau, try getting farther away from speakers
[10:13] <Don64> Snowy look here :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword?highlight=%28password%29
[10:13] <MarcoPau> pvl: the voice is actually pretty low, the beep is loud
[10:13] <MarcoPau> david__: I'm already very far away
[10:13] <Bensel> I can't seem to burn things at full speed with my new DVD burner
[10:13] <david__> then i dont know
[10:13] <pvl> im getting no recording at all
[10:13] <Bensel> I get like 4x (of 16x) on DVD-Rs and 8x (of 54x) on CD-Rs
[10:13] <Falstius> MarcoPau: turn up the recording rate (like 48khz)
[10:13] <snowy> thx don
[10:13] <Don64> NP
[10:14] <zirra-meeting> vocx: thje wireless used to work.
[10:14] <Jin> !mp3
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <zirra-meeting> vocx:  I'm not sure what changed for it.
[10:14] <pvl> turning up to 48 didnt do anything for me...
[10:14] <MarcoPau> Falstius: that worked, thank!
[10:14] <MarcoPau> +s
[10:14] <riotkittie> err. can i do something to a txt file composed under linux so it's readable on windows? without all those dang boxes? :o
[10:14] <pvl> and ive been on forums and sites for the apst 2 days trying to figure this out
[10:14] <ZeroTolerance> I need some help please, I am getting error nvalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'UDF Volume'.
[10:15] <neverblue> pvl, whats the issue?
[10:15] <vocx> zirra-meeting, kernel updates, driver updates, firmware updates, restricted drivers updates
[10:15] <pvl> riot just save it as a txt file with the correct encoding or use wine
[10:15] <chazco> well, i got it to boot from USB now (was ubuntu)
[10:15] <snowy> im gonna try it...
[10:15] <snowy> brb
[10:15] <pvl> neverblue my issue is that no program will record from my microphone however when i speak into it in general the sound goes to my spealer
[10:15] <riotkittie> pvl > what would be the correct encoding? and using wine seems positively silly.
[10:16] <Jminckoft> I restarted my ubuntu desktop (gutsy) and when it restarted it didn'
[10:16] <zirra-meeting> vocx: no kernel, driver, or firrmware updates.  Recently updated my nvidia driver trying to get hibernate to work.
[10:16] <riyonuk> Can someone guide me through installing a theme? I've been trying for days :(
[10:16] <pvl> riotkittie try western while saving from the text editor
[10:16] <riyonuk> riotkittie, some programs let you save it for windows or linux :D
[10:16] <riotkittie> pvl : did that. :|  still get that box.
[10:16] <pvl> its under character coding
[10:16] <pvl> oh
[10:17] <riotkittie> riyonuk: can you think of a program that does off the top of your head?
[10:17] <neverblue> pvl, can you hear the mic in any application?
[10:17] <pvl> riotkittie sorry mate idk
[10:17] <pvl> neverblue no i cannot
[10:17] <neverblue> pvl, is the mic a working mic?
[10:17] <pvl> enverblue well since what i say into it is amplyfied onto my speaker i assume it works
[10:17] <riyonuk> riotkittie, umm crimsion editor? scite? notepad++?
[10:17] <riyonuk> riotkittie, nvu?
[10:18] <pvl> *amplified
[10:18] <riotkittie> i could stop being lazy and just pull the cable from my router, walk around and plug it into my desktop... so i could post it from linux. but. i'm lazy.
[10:18] <neverblue> pvl, i wouldnt assume that
[10:18] <pvl> neverblue ill see if i have another mic then, 1 moment plz
[10:18] <neverblue> pvl, have you turned the mic on, in the sounds settings?
[10:18] <pvl> neverblue yes i have
[10:18] <MarcoPau> Falstius: now if I try playing the audio from audacity it complains about the device, when firefox is up (maybe due to pending flash videos)
[10:18] <vocx> riotkittie, "unix2dos" or "dos2unix", search them through synaptic or aptitude. Only notepad can't understand this end of line problem, most other text editors can.
[10:18] <neverblue> pvl do you have an other devices/apps using audio atm?
[10:19] <riotkittie> or. i could just ... manually delete the boxes.
[10:19] <Bensel> Again, anyone have any idea why my DVD burner is going at far slower speeds than it should?
[10:19] <pvl> neverblue not that i know off
[10:19] <riotkittie> but that would, you know, be proactive. and make sense.
[10:19] <neverblue> pvl, so you have all audio applications off, and you try the mic and nothing?
[10:19] <kitche> Bensel: because you tell the burning app to burn at a slower speed
[10:19] <Falstius> MarcoPau: does audacity support esd?
[10:19] <riotkittie> Bensel >  have you set the speed in the programs options?
[10:20] <Bensel> riotkittie: Yes
[10:20] <Bensel> kitche: Nope
[10:20] <neverblue> pvl does the mic have a volume control/on/off control?
[10:20] <pvl> neverblue well i just plugged in a different microphone and when i speak into it nothing happens at all
[10:20] <Bensel> All the programs I've tried accept the option for the correct speed but then actually burn slower
[10:20] <neverblue> pvl, pluggin it into the correct (female) slot?
[10:20] <pvl> neverblue my previosu microphone did and it was always on and when i spoke into it the sound would go to the speaker
[10:20] <Bensel> (namely nautilus' burner, gnomebaker, and k3b)
[10:20] <riotkittie> I'm having wireless issues :'(
[10:20] <pvl> neverblue yes defiently
[10:20] <Bensel> (and arson)
[10:21] <Jminckoft> I restarted my ubuntu desktop (gutsy) and when it had finished loading, it didnt recognized my monitor (emachines TFT1560PS) but it did come up because i heard the sound on the logon screen. Is there a way i can fix this? (sorry about that incident earlier, fat finger then i got dced)
[10:21] <neverblue> pvl not sure why your sound is going to your speaker, directly, but I posted quite a few questions to consider
[10:21] <neverblue> pvl, you might want to go back through them and recheck your settings
[10:21] <riotkittie> Jminckoft > have you poked around in xorg.conf? or tried to reconfigure?
[10:21] <pvl> neverblue yes i know, ima keep playing around with this
[10:21] <pvl> neverblue thank you though
[10:22] <Jminckoft> riotkittie, Nope, but there was an update for xorg that i downloaded shortly before i restarted
[10:22] <zirra-meeting> I'm having two seperate problems.  One, my mouse clicks on my usb logitech track ball seem to lag behind by a second or two.  Two, my wireless network disconnects every once in a while and won't reconnect no matter what I do (when it connects it works fine, so I know that the WPA keys are correct).
[10:22] <riotkittie> Jminckoft have you asked in #ubuntu-+1 (or is it #ubuntu+1 ?)
[10:22] <spacecat> does anyone know where that list is on the ubuntu site of people in your area that have ubuntu iso's?  I can't find it any more (& my laptop is crashing!)
[10:23] <riotkittie> someone there might be able to give you a better answer.
[10:23] <snowy> the website didnt help =\
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[10:23] <p75> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <Bensel> Wow, you're so cool man
[10:23] <r10> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <p75> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <r10> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <p75> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <r10> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <p75> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <r10> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <riotkittie> awesome. this is the lamest flood i've seen since 91 and my 300 baud.
[10:23] <r10> NIGGERZ!!!
[10:23] <riotkittie> k-lines <3
[10:23] <kkathman> such intelligence :)
[10:23] <neverblue> thanks Pricechild
[10:23] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel 1 or 2 (how can I check this?). I always have to login and run `init 5` to start all the daemons and the dm. Why could this happen?
[10:23] <Myrtti> !traffic
[10:23] <MakeGho> what's +R?
[10:23] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[10:24] <snowy> yea im still locked out from root >.<
[10:24] <PriceChild> rob, there was only two :)
[10:24] <matthew_> anyone know any good language learning software for linux
[10:24] <Don64> srry
[10:24] <rob> PriceChild, yeah but it takes me a few seconds to type out the klines
[10:24] <riyonuk> riotkittie, being lazy is not good pssh
[10:24] <riyonuk> Yeah...I need help installing themes, there way more important than getting wireless working or sound XD
[10:24] <snowy> ooooooooooooooh didnt know u had to be in rescue mode... lol
[10:24] <PriceChild> rob, hehe thanks :)
[10:24] <rob> np :D
[10:24] <Kopcap> hi, how can i setup a local area network between my windows pc and ubuntu? :)
[10:25] <riotkittie> riyonuk: i know, i know.
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <LoRez> only two got through to here.  we klined a lot more :)
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <neverblue> !samba | Kopcap
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <ubotu> Kopcap: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <t2813> !ops
[10:25] <xiambax> is there an EQ for rythmbox?
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <w90> !ops
[10:25] <Cobolt01> this channel is messed
[10:25] <riyonuk> :o
[10:25] <riotkittie> i'm tempted to just give up on linux on my desktop :\    even tho wireless is the only thing standing in my way atm.
[10:25] <RichiH> PriceChild: we are on it
[10:25] <xiambax> Cobolt01, could be worst.
[10:25] <PriceChild> RichiH, thanks
[10:25] <Cobolt01> :|
[10:25] <Kopcap> neverblue merci becacoupe ^_^
[10:25] <RichiH> np
[10:25] <riyonuk> riotkittie, me too...I just keep windows, dual boot, when I get fed up with linux
[10:26] <riotkittie> and my desktop is like 4x faster than my laptop. with 328gb more space. and 3x more ram. :x
[10:26] <PriceChild> Cobolt01, sorry for the inconvenience, we are dealing with the issue.
[10:27] <riotkittie> riyonuk: i've been stuck in windows nonstop for like a month.  :|  i'm getting sick of it.
[10:27] <IndyGunFreak> Cobolt01: don't let a coupole idiots ruin it for you
[10:27] <Cobolt01> I misconfigured and destroyed X the otherday
[10:27] <Bensel> 16:25 < riotkittie> i'm tempted to just give up on linux on my desktop :\
[10:27] <Bensel> Hehe, I can't count the number of times I've said that
[10:27] <Bensel> But I seriously can't go back to Windows anymore
[10:27] <riotkittie> and i mean, if i'd just swap the cable out of my router and into my card... i'd be able to get online. but.  cant realllllly do that.
[10:28] <mo0n_sniper> who could
[10:28] <riyonuk> riotkittie, you dont like windows or linux?
[10:28] <riyonuk> pssh I can
[10:28] <riyonuk> its soo much faster, easier, uglier :D
[10:28] <Kopcap> hm... em... neverblue i need to access ubuntu from windows.. em.. will that do too? i think this is how to access windows from ubuntu
[10:28] <Bensel> Of course, coding on Windows is the most horrible mess after doing it on Linux, not really sure about normal user use
[10:29] <snowy> D: im still locked out from sudo >.<
[10:29] <linux_> hi for all
[10:29] <lip> hi
[10:29] <linux_> i want ask about compiz
[10:29] <riotkittie> i should just buy an adapter with an atheros chipset :|  but. i dont want to spend more money.
[10:29] <neverblue> Kopcap, samba does it both ways
[10:29] <linux_> it not work will
[10:29] <Kopcap> ok thanks *reading*
[10:29] <mo0n_sniper> going back to windows will be a major downgrade
[10:29] <linux_> helloooooooooooooo
[10:29] <vocx> Bensel, please you are going off topic. This is a support channel. Discuss your experiences at #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <Don64> ask again maybe someone else knows what to do
[10:29] <riotkittie> linux_: of course it doesn't work well.
[10:29] <neverblue> !patience | linux_
[10:29] <riotkittie> isn't it still unstable?
[10:29] <ubotu> linux_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:29] <speaker219> can somebody help me? when i boot or shutdown, i don't get the splash and it says usplash: no usable theme for 800x600 please help :( http://pastebin.ca/657388
[10:30] <spacecat> anyone know where on the ubuntu site you have that list of people with ubuntu iso's ?
[10:30] <snowy> D: i did the thing u gave me don64 but it didnt do much?
[10:30] <PriceChild> linux_, #ubuntu-effects please. It is alpha software.
[10:30] <snowy> since thats only the lost password it still has me locked out from sudoers
[10:30] <neverblue> spacecat, people?
[10:30] <spacecat> yeah, there was a list before of people listed geographically
[10:30] <Bensel> vocx: Sorry X_x
[10:30] <spacecat> I need to find someone in Antwerp with an iso, my laptop's burning out
[10:31] <mo0n_sniper> yesterday i was installing something and it said : "requires windows 98 or better" so i installed ubuntu
[10:31] <snowy> xD
[10:31] <jisatsu> I have gaim running, but it's in the system tray thing. how can I bring up the buddy list without a mouse?
[10:31] <riotkittie> err. if people were able to get my usb adapter working under breezy and dapper, hypothetically, i should be able to use it under feisty, right?
[10:31] <neverblue> spacecat, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[10:31] <snowy> =\
[10:31] <riotkittie> maybe i should downgrade and see if that helps. but. i'll miss my cube. <weep>.
[10:32] <mo0n_sniper> hay how do you show the cube?
[10:32] <snowy> does anyone know how to readd urself to sudoer's?
[10:32] <snowy> without a use of cd..
[10:32] <vocx> jisatsu, you can control the pointer with the keyboard. Set it in keyboard > accessibility  or something. Very useful feature.
[10:32] <spacecat> neverblue: no I mean people that have physical cd iso's I can borrow
[10:32] <timposey_> does 7.04 have raw 1394 support?
[10:32] <jisatsu> vocx: cheers, I'll try it :)
[10:33] <neverblue> spacecat, no idea then
[10:33] <EJ> \\'elcome ack Jesus
[10:33] <riotkittie> mo0n_sniper > err. its been so long that i've seen my desktop  i forget. if you have desktop effects enabled, i believed ALT + arrow key
[10:33] <Don64> snowy: look at this http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-change-the-root-password-in-ubuntu
[10:33] <neverblue> spacecat, i never even realized there was such a thing, to be honest
[10:33] <Cobolt01> Where is Ubuntu developed?
[10:33] <Jekhar> Everywhere
[10:33] <neverblue> Cobolt01, the Internet
[10:33] <mo0n_sniper> riotkittie:10x
[10:33] <Bensel> On Earth
[10:33] <Cobolt01> okay, point taken
[10:33] <spacecat> neverblue: was one years ago - someone just gave me http://map.ubuntu-be.org/ - now it's different
[10:33] <riotkittie> snowy: best i can do is tell you to type 'man sudoers' at term.  :|
[10:34] <spacecat> gotta get outta here, laptop burning up ;) thx
[10:34] <neverblue> spacecat, no idea, sorry
[10:34] <Cobolt01> I know one of the founders :P
[10:34] <snowy> o.o
[10:34] <Cobolt01> He's South africna like me
[10:34] <snowy> that works riotkittie
[10:34] <kkathman> Cobolt01:  you obviously have no concept of community development and Linux in general wrt "development" hehe :)
[10:34] <snowy> but wtf do i do now D:
[10:34] <Cobolt01> *South African
[10:34] <Cobolt01> :/
[10:35] <snowy> if i go into rescue could i still be able to re add myself?
[10:35] <Kcaj> Hey
[10:35] <Kcaj> Is there a softwares
[10:35] <Kcaj> that will help me design electronic circuits?
[10:35] <Kcaj> Like, you know, figure out AND OR NOT XOR XNOR etc. kinda stuff
[10:35] <riotkittie> snowy: you know, you may want to check the forums for sudoers or visudo[?] . i cant really give you an answer as i'm stuck on XP
[10:36] <Kcaj> and build the devices without making them
[10:36] <riotkittie> but i think you need to load visudo[?] , which will let you edit the sudoers file . or something.
[10:36] <speaker219> can anyone help????
[10:36] <riotkittie> speaker219 help with?
[10:36] <snowy> thx though riot
[10:37] <riotkittie> Wireless question > If I can open network-manager, type my ESSID in, and get a signal....  it's safe to assume my usb adapter is working, to some extent, right?
[10:38] <TimeRider41> ubuntu security repositories, up or down? subproccess gzip returned error (1)
[10:38] <TimeRider41> while apt-get update
[10:38] <seiflotfy> hi guys
[10:38] <TimeRider41> hi
[10:38] <seiflotfy> any1 using gimmie ... i have soem qurestions
[10:39] <Jin> any one knows the shortcut keys to play in fullscreen mode in VLC?
[10:39] <TimeRider41> hmmm
[10:39] <Bensel> Is it possible to update from 6.06 to 7.04 without any big troubles?
[10:39] <toki_> how can I configure Linksys WRT54GL WiFi access point on Ubuntu?
[10:39] <Bensel> Hmm, I think I tried that before and it didn't work, never mind
[10:40] <mo0n_sniper> could anyone recommend me a media(music) player with a nice library that shows all your albums with covers?8-)...........something like windows media player 11 .......if I may
[10:40] <Bensel> It'd be nice not to have to have extensive backups every time I want to update Ubuntu across multiple versions
[10:40] <dgjones> !upgrade | Bensel
[10:40] <ubotu> Bensel: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:40] <ectospasm> mo0n_sniper:  RhythmBox will download album art automagically...
[10:41] <Kopcap> neverblue erm... i've installed samba, added users etc, read the manual... and there was nothing about how to access ubuntu from windows
[10:41] <Kopcap> :/
[10:41] <mo0n_sniper> but id doesn't show them all
[10:41] <wousser> Can anyone running gutsy and compiz fusion reproduce this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129652
[10:41] <Kcaj> Is there a softwares
[10:41] <riotkittie> Bensel > i did it w/o issue but it was a totally clean install of dapper. i've heard of people running into issues otherwise. but many do it successfully.
[10:41] <Kcaj> that will help me design electronic circuits?
[10:41] <mo0n_sniper> the cover is in the left corner
[10:41] <Kcaj> Like, you know, figure out AND OR NOT XOR XNOR etc. kinda stuff
[10:41] <Kcaj> and build the devices without making them
[10:41] <Kopcap> i even can't access my windows pc
[10:41] <riotkittie> if i were going to do it, i'd back my partition up, just in case.
[10:41] <neverblue> Kopcap, if you setup shares with samba, then windows will be able to access them
[10:41] <Bensel> Kcaj: I like tkgate, but there are plenty of them
[10:41] <vocx> !gutsy | wousser
[10:41] <ubotu> wousser: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <Kopcap> neverblue 1) how? 2) i don't even see the ubuntu pc on the network :/
[10:42] <Kcaj> tkgate I can simulate a microprocessor, gates, transistors, some LEDs, a quartz clock crystal, etc.?
[10:42] <Bensel> Yes
[10:42] <neverblue> Kopcap, consult your windows documentation :)
[10:42] <Bensel> They even have an example microprocessor built with it
[10:42] <Kopcap> i don't even see ubuntu's workgroup >.<
[10:42] <Kopcap> neverblue not funny :<
[10:42] <act1v8> I'm having problems with bluetooth
[10:42] <Kcaj> wow
[10:42] <Kcaj> :D
[10:42] <neverblue> Kopcap, u usre :)
[10:42] <Kcaj> tkgate sounds ROX
[10:42] <neverblue> sure*
[10:42] <act1v8> The connection after some time just times out
[10:42] <neverblue> Kopcap, did you restart?
[10:42] <Kopcap> neverblue yup
[10:43] <vocx> !enter | Kcaj
[10:43] <ubotu> Kcaj: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:43] <Kopcap> twice :P
[10:43] <neverblue> Kopcap, can you ping the linux box, and vice versa?
[10:43] <mo0n_sniper>  act1v8>maybe the device is only active forX minutes
[10:43] <mo0n_sniper> see the settings
[10:43] <Kopcap> if i disable the firewall... :D
[10:43] <Kopcap> i can connect to it, but i can't ping it :D
[10:43] <act1v8> mo0n_sniper: well it doesn't seem so, because hcitool scan reports the timeout, but it shouldn't
[10:44] <Kopcap> i can connect to it localy e.g. 192.168.1.104
[10:44] <act1v8> it should find another device
[10:45] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and the fixed it. Ideas?
[10:45] <n2diy> the/that
[10:45] <act1v8> can someone please help
[10:45] <eugman> Is compiz easily switched off for cpu intensive programs?
[10:45] <mesapiegrande> What do you need assistance with?
[10:45] <mo0n_sniper> n2diy>i think the network tool has a bug
[10:45] <Kopcap> and vice versa. can't ping my windows pc from linux, but can access it by 192.168.1.100
[10:46] <mo0n_sniper> it happeds to my sometimes
[10:46] <n2diy> mo0n_sniper: But I wasn't using that, I'm using kppp.
[10:46] <mo0n_sniper> and to my friend
[10:46] <mo0n_sniper> hmmmm...
[10:47] <mesapiegrande> @eugman.  Yes from the system menu --> desktop effects
[10:47] <n2diy> mo0n_sniper: I tried the network tool, and it thought everything was ok!
[10:47] <mo0n_sniper> i have that problem also
[10:48] <mo0n_sniper> sometimes wireless works only on user and lan on root
[10:50] <mesapiegrande> Been a long time since I have perused IRC.  How do I whisper?
[10:50] <B52doc> Hello
[10:51] <B52doc> I need help with a Broadcom Corporation BCM43xG 802.11b/g  card :(
[10:51] <Jin> any one knows the shortcut keys to play in fullscreen mode in VLC?
[10:51] <dgjones> !bcm43xx | Jin
[10:51] <ubotu> Jin: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[10:51] <PriceChild> mesapiegrande, /msg <nick> <message>
[10:51] <Rasimu> Hi, i'm trying to run my sshd on my ubuntu. I succeed conecting to the localhost from the same computer using ssh but when trying to reach it from other computers on the lan I get a connection refused error
[10:51] <Rasimu> any ideas?
[10:52] <Kopcap> can you even connect to your ubuntu pc?
[10:52] <rnewbie> Hi everyone, I'm trying to boot ubuntu/osx/vista, and I'm running into some issues.  I'm able to install ubuntu just fine with grub on disk 0,2.  However, when I try to install Vista, it overwrites my 3rd partition (linux) and puts nothing on it but the boot manager.  Has anyone run into this problem or know a fix for it?
[10:52] <Jin> Rasimu, you need to open a port for ssh
[10:52] <philthy> rnewbie, always install linux last
[10:52] <Jin> Rasimu, should be port number 22
[10:52] <riotkittie> Rasimu: open the port
[10:52] <neverblue> mesapiegrande, /query
[10:52] <riotkittie> err. i'm slow ;\
[10:52] <Rasimu> Jim: how do I do that?
[10:52] <ahmadsaifan> #compiz-fusion #beryl #ubuntu-effects
[10:52] <rnewbie> right now my partitions are 200M EFI, 65G OSX, 6G linux, 40G NTFS
[10:52] <boubbin> !xgl
[10:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:53] <riotkittie> brb. booting into feisty and cursing feverishly, in hopes *that* gets my wireless kinks worked out
[10:53] <neverblue> Kopcap, ppl do it all over the world
[10:53] <Rasimu> How can I check if the 22 port is closed?
[10:53] <rnewbie> philthy: I tried this, but it overwrites the drive that windows is expecting to host its boot manager
[10:53] <mesapiegrande> Does anyone here have experience with Samba and windows shares?
[10:53] <neverblue> Rasimu, using gnome?
[10:53] <Kopcap> neverblue i feel sorry for them because of what i'm going through now :<
[10:53] <philthy> rnewbie, why not use grub isntead of windows boot loader?
[10:53] <Jin> Rasimu, it is closed by default
[10:53] <neverblue> Kopcap, samba isnt always fun
[10:54] <Kopcap> linux isn't fun :<
[10:54] <B52doc> what does it mean when a guide says to enable Universal Repositories?
[10:54] <timposey_> How do i get ubuntu to recognize my firewire card and video camera
[10:54] <Rasimu> Jin: so where should I configure this?
[10:54] <rnewbie> philthy: well, although that wouldnt be the end of the world, i'd like to be able to boot straight to windows from rEFIt
[10:54] <vocx> !repos | B52doc
[10:54] <ubotu> B52doc: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:54] <rnewbie> also, when i install linux over the third parition, it deletes the windows boot manager
[10:54] <Kopcap> neverblue can help me set up samba so i can finally access ubuntu directories?
[10:54] <Jin> Rasimu, try the application called firestarter
[10:54] <Kopcap> :<
[10:54] <rnewbie> and it freaks out and cries and fights with me
[10:54] <neverblue> B52doc, if you look in your sources.list, there are universal repos
[10:55] <Kopcap> ftp uploading is quite uncomfortable :/
[10:55] <BLARG_> Hey, can anyone tell me if it's possible to add an ubuntu install to the windows boot.ini.  I just installed it and the bootloader didn't load properly.
[10:55] <Kopcap> especially for programming >.<
[10:55] <Jin> Rasimu, firestarter is a tool for you to configure the firewall
[10:55] <neverblue> Kopcap, I was under the impression that samba was already setup, and you were looking to have windows access the linux drives?
[10:55] <B52doc> ok
[10:55] <rnewbie> when i try to boot straight to the vista partition, it says no bootmgr and says to hit ctrl alt del
[10:55] <Kopcap> neverblue yup
[10:56] <neverblue> Kopcap, ssh, cvs, subversion
[10:56] <Rasimu> Jin, is it a command line util?
[10:56] <harveyd> does anyone know how to enable mod_rewrite with apache2 in ubuntu(7.04)
[10:56] <Sivik> rnewbie: vista=crap
[10:56] <neverblue> Kopcap, then its a question for the windows rooms :)
[10:56] <exs> I am trying to mount an UIF file (bit like iso), so far i've got "sudo mount file.uif /media/iso/ -t UIF -o loop"; but it's not working, if anyone can help - that would be great
[10:56] <Jin> Rasimu, a GUI
[10:56] <solekiller> wtf?@#
[10:56] <solekiller> oh heres the nick list
[10:56] <Rasimu> Jin: hmm I don't have a gui on that box
[10:56] <madman91> hey guys
[10:56] <Kopcap> neverblue i have ssh and cvs i think :)
[10:56] <timposey> Does anyone know how to install firewire as ubuntu does not seem to recognize the firewire IEEE 1394 card
[10:56] <Ziox> i need help dearly [10:56] <neverblue> hey madman91
[10:57] <Jin> Rasimu, then you need a shell script
[10:57] <neverblue> Kopcap, can you view the windows shares on the linux box?
[10:57] <harveyd> actually, i think i figured it out
[10:57] <Kopcap> nope
[10:57] <Jin> Rasimu, do a search on Kiss my firewall using google
[10:57] <madman91> i just installed the cli version of ubuntu from the alternate cd.. i installed it on comp A .. then moved it to comp B .. now it no longer has eth0 or any internet.. ?
[10:57] <Rasimu> Jin, but you guess it's a firewall thingy?
[10:57] <Jin> Rasimu, it is a very easy shell script to config your firewall
[10:57] <neverblue> Kopcap, then samba isnt setup and possibly windows isnt sharing yet either
[10:57] <Jin> Rasimu, yea
[10:57] <Rasimu> Jin, thanks a lot
[10:57] <neverblue> Kopcap, sounds like you have a bit of reading to do :)
[10:57] <Rasimu> Jin, will check it out
[10:58] <Jin> Rasimu, if you have the port open on your ubuntu and still can't ssh into it, check your router/switch
[10:58] <Kopcap> neverblue i think samba isn't running, 'cuz i don't see it in the system monitor :D
[10:58] <solekiller> i used ndiswrapper to install my wifi card (bcm43xx minichip) and now and befor i couldnt use monitoring
[10:58] <solekiller> nor scanning
[10:58] <Remo_A> hi all
[10:58] <BLARG_> Anyone?  I just need to see if I can add ubuntu to boot.ini so I can start it up and add a bootloader
[10:58] <B52doc> omg lol
[10:58] <vocx> solekiller, ndiswrapper can only use "managed" or "ad-hoc" modes, no master nor monitor nor other modes are available.
[10:58] <madman91> i just installed a cli version of ubuntu... i instaleld it in computer A.. everything worked.. now when i moved the hdd to computer B there is no eth0 .. and no internet
[10:59] <solekiller> does anyone know of a good usb stick wifi that is supported on outof the box on ubuntu with monitoring scanning and posiblly injection?
[10:59] <mad-sibyl> uh ... something... I did not on the forum is used Linux software .. Now, i used was that error means that I try /media folder. how did now see things will be instide of them
[10:59] <Remo_A> how are machines called again, that are totally useless, but enormous complicated, even complicating their original purpose of solving some mechanical problem.
[10:59] <neverblue> BLARG_, I am assuming you install ubuntu before installing windows?
[10:59] <Remo_A> ?
[10:59] <Ziox> i need help dearly [10:59] <berent> !flash
[10:59] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:59] <j85wilson> Remo_A: Rube Goldberg machines
[10:59] <berent> !gnash
[10:59] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[10:59] <Jin> madman91, Linux is not like Windows
[10:59] <Remo_A> j85wilson: exactly, thank you!
[10:59] <BLARG_> neverblue: no, actually the other way around, but windows was not on the primary drive or partition, so I think grub had a problem with that
[11:00] <Jin> madman91, check the name of your network card and reconfigure it
[11:00] <madman91> Jin: how do i do that?
[11:00] <neverblue> BLARG_, grub should have set it up in the install, not sure why it wouldnt :)
[11:00] <Jin> madman91, is it a wired network?
[11:00] <madman91> Jin: there is only lo .. no ethX
[11:00] <madman91> Jin: yes
[11:00] <B52doc> I give up
[11:00] <solekiller> lspci?
[11:00] <B52doc> I am out
[11:00] <solekiller> ifconfig?
[11:00] <madman91> solekiller: only lo shows up in ifconfig
[11:00] <matzino> try testing the devices with ifconfig
[11:00] <solekiller> oh
[11:00] <BLARG_> neverblue: I thought so too, but I tried installing twice and it isn't loading it up, goes straight into windows
[11:01] <solekiller> lspci then
[11:01] <Jin> madman91, umm...  did you /sbin/ifconfig -a ?
[11:01] <n2diy> madman91: ifup ethX
[11:01] <berent> can anyone tell me which webdesign tool have cnettv used?
[11:01] <neverblue> BLARG_, do you see the linux partition on the drive?
[11:01] <solekiller> does anyone know of a good usb stick wifi that is supported on outof the box on ubuntu with monitoring scanning and posiblly injection?
[11:01] <madman91> Jin: :) its there as eth1
[11:01] <madman91> because it still remembers the eth0 from comp A .. right?
[11:01] <Jin> madman91, then your card works
[11:02] <madman91> i couldnt ifup eth1
[11:02] <Jin> madman91, just do ifup eth1
[11:02] <spectre__> hi to all.
[11:02] <BLARG_> neverblue, yes, but not from windows
[11:02] <matzino> good night i'm trying to get a blank page in horizontal position but i can't find the option, do you know this option?
[11:02] <spectre__> Is there a network port scanner under ubuntu ? thanks to all
[11:02] <madman91> Jin: ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1
[11:02] <Jin> madman91, what do you mean you couldn't ifup eth1?
[11:02] <Scunizi> matzino, what program ?
[11:02] <wayoutthere> Hi. How can I tell if I am behind a firewall? If I am behind one how can I allow Firefox to bypass it?
[11:02] <Radish> hey, I have just succeeded in migrating my father's computer to ubuntu, and im wondering what's the best way to play windows games?
[11:02] <philthy> spectre__, nmap
[11:03] <matzino> to play windows games try cedega
[11:03] <Jin> madman91, try ifconfig eth1 up
[11:03] <Radish> tried it, no luck
[11:03] <spectre__> thanks philthy
[11:03] <j85wilson> mad-sibyl: prophesy
[11:03] <mad-sibyl> f-locks?
[11:03] <madman91> Jin: ok.. that one worked.. but now i still cannot ping google.com
[11:03] <matzino> oh cedega does not support al games, cedega works with wine
[11:03] <kunemio> can samone help me i have instaled ati drivers and dont have sound now :/
[11:03] <neverblue> BLARG_, then how do you see it, if not from Windows?
[11:03] <philthy> spectre__, no problem.
[11:04] <matzino> some games works with scumvm
[11:04] <solekiller> when i do iwlist scanning eth1 gives me no results
[11:04] <Jin> madman91, are you using a router? or a switch?
[11:04] <neverblue> BLARG_, and if u can view it, is there files (from the install) on it?
[11:04] <madman91> Jin: router
[11:04] <solekiller> and im pretty sure there are working aps around
[11:04] <Jin> madman91, try /sbin/dhclient eth1
[11:04] <Radish> well the games are AOE2, AOE3, Commandos: Behind enemy lines, Project IGI
[11:04] <Radish> none work :)
[11:04] <vsbuffalo> hey all, I have two monitors working, with one mirroring the other - is there any easy way to configure X to get dual monitor support
[11:04] <solekiller> when i do iwlist scanning eth1 gives me no results
[11:04] <solekiller> and im pretty sure there are working aps around
[11:04] <BLARG_> neverblue: it's an ext3 partition, so I can't access the files from xp anyway that I know of.  But I can see that it's there and properly formated from Partition Magic
[11:05] <kunemio> Can samone help me with sound ???
[11:05] <madman91> Jin: sweetness.. thanks :) .. but how would i setup a static ip? on ubuntu..
[11:05] <vocx> !ext3 | BLARG_
[11:05] <ubotu> BLARG_: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:05] <Scunizi> !twinview | vsbuffalo
[11:05] <ubotu> vsbuffalo: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:05] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[11:05] <madman91> Jin: the router automatically gives the computer an ip based on mac adress.. i would like ubuntu to accept it without checking with dhcp everytime
[11:05] <vsbuffalo> thans ubotu I'll look into it
[11:05] <Jin> madman91, ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.10  is an example
[11:05] <vocx> !thanks | vsbuffalo
[11:05] <ubotu> vsbuffalo: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:05] <solekiller> argh
[11:06] <mad-sibyl> though
[11:06] <kunemio> can anyone help noob ??
[11:06] <vsbuffalo> hah
[11:06] <DWSR> hey all.
[11:06] <neverblue> BLARG_, yes, thats a good start, now what are you doing when the install asks you to setup the grub boot loader?
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | kunemio
[11:06] <ubotu> kunemio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:06] <kunemio> i asked it :/
[11:06] <n0ur> im downloading ubuntu with ftp client ... what exactly should i do after if finishes ?
[11:06] <directLink> if I change the partitions on the harddisk on which I have installed, using widows, wouldn't then grub just give me an error?
[11:06] <IndyGunFreak> !ptience | kunemio
[11:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ptience - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <solekiller> man im going back to debian
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | kunemio
[11:07] <ubotu> kunemio: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:07] <BLARG_> Install never asks me about a bootloader, it asks about the partition I want to use, and a username
[11:07] <Scunizi> n0ur, burn the ISO image to a cd as an image not data.
[11:07] <dapallox1> hey, can someone tell me if they know how to enable usb support in Qemu
[11:07] <BLARG_> I just realized I'm using 7.10 alpha 4 though, so maybe that's the problem
[11:07] <IndyGunFreak> lol, probably
[11:08] <Kopcap> neverblue how do i start samba? O.o
[11:08] <dapallox1> anyone?
[11:08] <neverblue> Kopcap, its in the documentation
[11:08] <Scunizi> Kopcap, /etc/init.d/samba start
[11:08] <j85wilson> IndyGunFreak: he did.  He said he installed ATI drivers, and then sound ceased to work.
[11:08] <Kopcap> Scunizi doesn't work >.<
[11:08] <Scunizi> Kopcap, did you apt-get install samba?
[11:09] <Kopcap> ofc
[11:09] <madman91> Jin: thank you very much :)
[11:09] <voidlogic> Hey everyone, I'm having problems getting a tape drive detected. It works dual booting into windows so I don't think its a hardware issue. Its using the megaraid driver. It should be the 2nd device on channel 0, but I don't see anything but my cd-roms in /proc/scsi/scsi. If I do an lspci I see the hard is indeed detected. It worked for one reboot yesterday for but some reason.
[11:09] <Jin> madman91, yw :)
[11:09] <Scunizi> Kopcap, then what neverblue said above..
[11:09] <Fractal44> Hello, im about to install ubuntu on a laptop I've obtained.. now I notice in xp, it auto detects wireless networks and wifi.. will it do the same on ubuntu? or will I have to install some software.
[11:09] <IndyGunFreak> j85wilson: what are you talking about?
[11:09] <Jin> Fractal44, depends on your card
[11:09] <Scunizi> Fractal44, just depends.. boot to the live cd and see if wireless works.
[11:10] <neverblue> Kopcap, I recommended earlier you do a bit of reading, most of your questions are covered by the documentation, your rolling your wheels in here
[11:10] <j85wilson> IndyGunFreak: ```kunemio: can samone help me i have instaled ati drivers and dont have sound now :/'''
[11:10] <BLARG_> neverblue, I got the program installed and can access my ubuntu directory, but I don't know what to do from there
[11:10] <IndyGunFreak> j85wilson: that was like 5min ago... wake up
[11:10] <Jin> Fractal44, just pop the ubuntu install disc in the laptop, if your card is supported, you will be able to use it without installing ubuntu
[11:10] <matzino> sometimes not work try to remove gnome-networmanager
[11:10] <Kopcap> neverblue ok, i'll read the manual but... em... where is it? :D i still can't get arround with the linux filesystem >.<
[11:11] <Scunizi> Kopcap, one should be located by typing man samba in a terminal
[11:11] <Kopcap> omg
[11:11] <kunemio> nah
[11:11] <Kopcap> O.o
[11:11] <Kopcap> i typed 'smbd' and it said that samba isn't installed O.o
[11:12] <mikeypizano> anyone know bout laptop mode?
[11:12] <kunemio> yea 5 mins ago :P
[11:12] <Kopcap> i even edited the config file ffs >><
[11:12] <Kopcap> >.<
[11:12] <spectre__> Why if I try to go in Gnome > applications > Add/remove > and looking for wine I find as description wine windows emulator ? it's not an emulator :)
[11:12] <Scunizi> Kopcap, here's a link that might help.. http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/networking/samba.shtml
[11:12] <Kopcap> YAY!!!!
[11:12] <kunemio> Can samone help me with my sound problem it worked now is gone ?
[11:12] <Kopcap> reinstalled now i even see ubuntu from network ... in windows :)
[11:13] <kripton1x> Im planning to do an install of Ubuntu to hdb, on hda, there is a windows installation, with its boot records and everything
[11:13] <kripton1x> what do yuo guys recommend when I install Ubuntu to be able to write to the existing boot loader, and give an option to boot Linux or Windows? without touching any windows or boot configs
[11:13] <Kopcap> but can't from ubuntu :<
[11:14] <kripton1x> ive done dual boot systems before, but windows will fail easier than any linux os and ive never really set up this combination, or this order atleast
[11:14] <Scunizi> kripton1x, that's called a dual boot.. it will work fine.  On install, it will install GRUB a different bootloader.  When booting you'll have the option of going to Ubuntu or Windows.
[11:14] <kripton1x> but as installing the bootloader (grub) will it pick up the windows installation and add an entry for it?
[11:14] <voidlogic> If you are really paranoid kripton1x use a boot floppy for you linux bootloader
[11:15] <chazco> Hi... can anyone tell me how to get an external display to work with my laptop? Running Ubuntu edgy on a u200
[11:15] <hekman> kripton1x: yes
[11:15] <Jin> kripton1x, it will
[11:15] <kunemio> i have sb live card and its not working can samone help ?
[11:15] <kripton1x> voidlogic: that can be an idea too
[11:15] <Scunizi> kripton1x, automagicly
[11:15] <kripton1x> kool
[11:15] <Jin> kunemio, search the ubuntu forum...  u won't find much help in here
[11:15] <kripton1x> say it fails - what would be a logic way of recovering ?
[11:15] <kunemio> jin yea but its strabge :/
[11:16] <kunemio> and i couldynt find anythong about it
[11:16] <Jin> kunemio, no sound at all?
[11:16] <Jin> kunemio, what card u got?
[11:16] <Scunizi> kripton1x, depends on how it fails.. but it shouldn't with only one hd in your machine.  With multiple hd's it can be problematic.
[11:16] <kunemio> it worked fine i added ati drivers and reboot and sound is gone :/
[11:16] <kunemio> sb live 5.1
[11:16] <kripton1x> yeah thats the issue lol
[11:16] <kripton1x> Im installling nix to another harddrive
[11:16] <Starbucks> hi
[11:16] <Jin> kunemio, did you also update your kernel?
[11:16] <kripton1x> hdb
[11:16] <kunemio> no siound
[11:16] <kripton1x> haha starbucks! yay
[11:16] <kunemio> i didnt upgrade it
[11:17] <Scunizi> kripton1x, you have more than one HD or just more than 1 partition?
[11:17] <Starbucks> anyone here that has got experience with Super grub disk?
[11:17] <voidlogic>  I'm having problems getting a tape drive detected. It works dual booting into windows so I don't think its a hardware issue. Its using the megaraid driver. It should be the 2nd device on channel 0, but I don't see anything but my cd-roms in /proc/scsi/scsi. If I do an lspci I see the controller card is indeed detected. The card+drive worked for one boot yesterday for but some reason it only worked that once. Any ideas?
[11:17] <kunemio> but i used option to add drivers its in system /administaration
[11:17] <neverblue> Kopcap, man samba, or google samab howto
[11:17] <kripton1x> scunizi: more than one hd
[11:17] <Jin> kunemio, ask it on the forum plz. not much help here
[11:17] <kunemio> i dont know it in english
[11:17] <Starbucks> i burned the iso image on a DVD and booted from it, its loading and loading, but then it stops at DR-Dos A:
[11:18] <Jin> my card is sb audigy SE. worked out of the box
[11:18] <Scunizi> kripton1x, if you have issues with grub go to http://bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm.. Print this out prior to installing.
[11:18] <Jin> :-)
[11:18] <kripton1x> awesome man
[11:18] <kripton1x> i appreciate the help eh
[11:18] <cameron_> how do I give a bin file the right to execute in the terminal?
[11:18] <kripton1x> -eh **
[11:18] <poningru> cameron_: chmod +x filename
[11:19] <kripton1x> cameron_: chmod +x file.bin
[11:19] <poningru> Kopcap: did you get your answer?
[11:19] <Scunizi> kripton1x, no problem.. I've had my issues with grub. 3 harddrives (2 SATA and 1 IDE). Took me a while to figure things out.
[11:19] <voidlogic> cameron, chmod u+x ./file
[11:19] <Starbucks> anyone here that has got experience with Super grub disk?
[11:19] <Starbucks> i burned the iso image on a DVD and booted from it, its loading and loading, but then it stops at DR-Dos A:
[11:19] <Kopcap> poningru not yet, but i'm getting to that :)
[11:19] <B52doc> anyone have a Broadcom BCM43xG 802.11b/g (rev 02) card ?
[11:19] <kripton1x> that page isnt loading though.
[11:19] <poningru> Kopcap: what was the problem?
[11:19] <Scunizi> kripton1x, the one I linked to ?
[11:19] <poningru> B52doc: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[11:19] <kripton1x> yes sir.
[11:20] <Scunizi> kripton1x, hang on a sec.
[11:20] <kripton1x> kk
[11:20] <dgib> guys... i need help.... my sound doesn't work!!! but it works when im using Skype.... any ideas? :)
[11:20] <Kopcap> well now that i've successfully started the samba daemon and i see the ubuntu box from my windows machine i need to add a samba user(?) to access ubuntu
[11:20] <Jin> how to get the version number of a package with apt?
[11:20] <new42day> hi guys . . . anyone with any thoughts on how to repair synaptic installer when its seems to have been damaged by Automatix . . . Synaptc reports a problem with a cache file . . . ?
[11:20] <Kopcap> or something like that
[11:20] <spectre__> question: I can't get transparent terminal under Ubuntu Feisty Fawn .I have an ati xpress 1100 and Atheros accellerated graphics driver enable.can you help me ? thanks
[11:20] <poningru> B52doc: oh actually that doesnt work anymore iirc
[11:20] <Kopcap> *manualing*
[11:20] <poningru> B52doc: hold on
[11:20] <B52doc> poningru: I followed the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3189859#post3189859 and it jacked my system all up lol, I am reinstalling ubuntu right now
[11:21] <Scunizi> kripton1x, I may have had a typo.. here's the copied link from FF .. http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[11:21] <vocx> For reference, here is a web page explaining what "Error Loading Operating System" means. A proof that it is not a Linux error. It happened before in Windows. http://whocares.de/2004/12/28/error-loading-operating-system/
[11:21] <Scunizi> kripton1x, does that work for you?
[11:21] <Mishu> How can i start ssl server on ubuntu so users can connect to it remotely
[11:21] <Twelve-60> Hey, just wondering if it is possible to install ubuntu from a USB flash drive that is 256mb (maybe in parts or such)
[11:22] <fuk> hey what does dev mean, for example i have an application and they talk about dev
[11:22] <spectre__> It isn't really important.I wan't only Know if it's a graphic driver problem.thanks to all
[11:22] <fuk> what does that mean
[11:22] <fuk> 1.0 dev
[11:22] <Scunizi> Twelve-60, the ubuntu install image is 600+ megs
[11:22] <fuk> whatsi t used, what does it update
[11:22] <vocx> !install | Twelve-60
[11:22] <ubotu> Twelve-60: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:23] <Twelve-60> Yes i know, however I'm wondering if there is a way to load it in parts or load an installer and get the rest over ethernet
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Twelve-60: if youc an boot a USB device, you might be better off downloading and booting a Debian Etch ISO on that usb device
[11:23] <poningru> B52doc: ouch
[11:23] <dgib> guys... i need help.... my sound doesn't work!!! but it works when im using Skype.... any ideas? :)
[11:23] <poningru> hold on
[11:23] <solekiller> say i would like to attempt something
[11:23] <vocx> fuk, developer files, headers, libraries, things you need in order to compile. Not important for end-users.
[11:23] <Scunizi> Twelve-60, I haven't looked at the size of the server image.. but maybe..
[11:23] <solekiller> i have a slax live cd that has alot of programs installed on it
[11:23] <nob> how do I get grip to rip mp3
[11:23] <fuk> vocx: so inorder for my app to work i need those DEV files
[11:23] <poningru> B52doc: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[11:23] <poningru> just run that
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> Twelve-60: do you have high speed?
[11:23] <Twelve-60> Scunizi: 492mb
[11:23] <kripton1x> scunizi: that worked greatm, thanks so much
[11:23] <solekiller> and i want to save time and instead of looking for each program just copy em
[11:23] <fuk> vocx: is that how a program gets updated only by DEV ?
[11:24] <poningru> B52doc: err http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[11:24] <PaulEU> I have question: on website there is plan to public new version of ubuntu 7.10 - is there will be possible to upgrade from 7.04 into 7.10 and 8.04 (next year) ?
[11:24] <B52doc> poningru: Thanks bro
[11:24] <Twelve-60> ubotu: Doesn't specify for those with a flash drive with lower space then the image
[11:24] <Scunizi> kripton1x, I keep a copy in a file folder for referance.. It's been a lifesaver.
[11:24] <Starbucks> anyone here that has got experience with Super grub disk?
[11:24] <Starbucks> i burned the iso image on a DVD and booted from it, its loading and loading, but then it stops at DR-Dos A:
[11:24] <PaulEU> where can I read about plan ?
[11:24] <Twelve-60> IndyGunFreak: Yes
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> Twelve-60: the Debian Etch 4.0 ISO, is 159mb... it  basically loads the kernel, adn then installs everything else from the internet.
[11:25] <Twelve-60> I can download the entire ubuntu with no problem if needed
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> Twelve-60: if it detects your internet connection, that would be the way to go in your situation
[11:25] <fuk> vocx: can u answer pelase
[11:25] <kripton1x> i appreciate it
[11:25] <Twelve-60> How do I go from there to Xubuntu?
[11:25] <kripton1x> hey scunizi, wouldnt i be able to add an entry to boot.ini windows file?
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> Twelve-60: type this .. "/join #indygunfreak"
[11:26] <nob> any one know how I can get grip to rip mp3
[11:26] <mcummings_> install lame?
[11:26] <Scunizi> kripton1x, there is a way of doing that but it's not the easiest thing.  It's easier to let Grub do its thing.  Expicially if you later want to install kubuntu, xubuntu, server etc. on the same hd alongside ubuntu.
[11:26] <kripton1x> alright
[11:26] <PurpleFool> anyone know where an updated/correct description of kernel package build instructions are?
[11:26] <Starbucks> i guess no one has a idea though=
[11:26] <Starbucks> ?
[11:27] <vocx> fuk, NO. Your program should work without the dev. Programs in Ubuntu never get updates unless they have security flaws.
[11:27] <vocx> fuk, exactly what are you doing? I think you are confused.
[11:27] <Scunizi> kripton1x, besides, if you end up liking Ubuntu and the environment you won't want to go into windows for much of anything other than games.
[11:27] <kripton1x> lol
[11:27] <solekiller> i have a slax cd and i want to copy alot and i mean alot of programs from it into ubuntu how do i do that?
[11:27] <kripton1x> ive used ubuntu for a while now
[11:27] <kripton1x> im paranoid about windows cause then i have to hear my girls bnitching
[11:27] <solekiller> what folders do i copy?
[11:27] <solekiller> which*
[11:28] <voidlogic>  I'm having problems getting a tape drive detected. It works dual booting into windows so I don't think its a hardware issue. Its using the megaraid driver. It should be the 2nd device on channel 0, but I don't see anything but my cd-roms in /proc/scsi/scsi. If I do an lspci I see the controller card is indeed detected. The card+drive worked for one boot yesterday for but some reason it only worked that once. Any ideas?
[11:28] <Lute> hi! a retarded newbie is looking for help
[11:28] <Lute> heeh
[11:28] <kripton1x> lol i think imma fuck around first and make a floppy boot to get familiar with it
[11:28] <kripton1x> maybe read te contents of th efloppymand see if i can add to boot.ini if not then bootdisk it iss
[11:28] <new42day> hi guys . . . anyone with any thoughts on how to repair synaptic installer when its seems to have been damaged by Automatix . . . Synaptc reports a problem with a cache file . . . ?
[11:28] <kripton1x> so thanks fo rht help, ill join back in a bit
[11:28] <solekiller> i have a slax cd and i want to copy alot and i mean alot of programs from it into ubuntu how do i do that?
[11:28] <philthy> How does Canonical Ltd. make money?
[11:28] <Scunizi> kripton1x, aahh.. kids... I tried to convert mine but it's a struggle.  sometime in the future they will just have ubuntu, no windows games and be forced into learning. I refuse to go to vista just to support games.  If they want to pay for it .. maybe.
[11:29] <Fractal44> okay I have the LiveCD running on my laptop but I do not have a wireless network in the area.. how can I tell if it'll auto-detect one?
[11:29] <Lute> hlello?
[11:29] <Scunizi> Fractal44, drive around until you get a signal.
[11:29] <momo521> hello everyone
[11:29] <Fractal44> scunizi for real? LOL
[11:29] <vocx> I have a huge lag, I'm off.
[11:29] <Jin> Fractal44, System -> Admin -> Network.
[11:30] <momo521> i need some help..my problem is here.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3189908#post3189908
[11:30] <Scunizi> Fractal44, well ... :)
[11:30] <Jin> Fractal44, you should see wireless in the list if it works
[11:30] <Fractal44> Jin I see wirelss ine the list.. so im good?
[11:30] <Jin> Fractal44, yea. it will work (99% of the time)
[11:31] <Fractal44> Jin very cool.. thankyou.
[11:31] <Jin> Fractal44, hope it's not the rt2500 chipset. won't work on Feisty
[11:31] <B52doc> poningru u there ?
[11:31] <PurpleFool> Lute ask away I don't think they stand on precedent
[11:32] <Scunizi> Jin, how can Fractal44 look in his system to see if it is?
[11:32] <poningru> B52doc: whatsup?
[11:32] <momo521> can anyone help me?
[11:32] <spectre__> Can you tell me the right graphics driver for Ati xpress 1100 ? thanks to all
[11:32] <poningru> momo521: looking
[11:32] <Scunizi> !aks | momo521
[11:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:32] <Jin> Scunizi, I think dmesg tells what card it is. :\ not sure
[11:32] <new42day> . . . anyone see my post?
[11:32] <momo521> thx poningru
[11:32] <new42day>  . . . anyone with any thoughts on how to repair synaptic installer when its seems to have been damaged by Automatix . . . Synaptc reports a problem with a cache file . . . ?
[11:33] <B52doc> poningru: hey bro, sorry about this but my transcripts werent turned on so I lost that link for the 43xG file
[11:33] <poningru> B52doc: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/feisty-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[11:33] <Jin> Scunizi, but rt2500 works fine on feisty with ndiswrapper. also works with PSK-TKIP. I'm using it :)
[11:33] <poningru> momo521: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[11:33] <poningru> !pastebin
[11:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:33] <Scunizi> Jin, might want to let the other guy know. but thanks..
[11:34] <dgib> guys... i need help.... my sound doesn't work!!! but it works when im using Skype.... any ideas? :)
[11:34] <B52doc> poningru: thanks again :)
[11:34] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[11:34] <momo521> ?
[11:34] <momo521> ehats that?
[11:34] <momo521> whats*
[11:34] <momo521> <----- linux noob
[11:34] <poningru> momo521: hold on
[11:35] <{Nathan}> What's the autoexec.bat equivalent for Linux? I can't remember!
[11:35] <armin> ninux loob
[11:35] <momo521> o
[11:35] <momo521> ok*
[11:35] <voidlogic> Nathan, its the run level scripts
[11:35] <armin> :)
[11:35] <n2diy> Nathan, init.d I think.
[11:35] <zipper_> Anyone who can tell me how to upload pictures using Google Picasa for linux?
[11:35] <{Nathan}> mmk, thanks
[11:35] <armin> nathan: heavily depends on what you intend to do
[11:36] <armin> nathan: if we're just talking about some programs you want to start upon x start, initscripts of course won't help you :)
[11:36] <mcummings_> worst case, something like rc.local
[11:36] <armin> omg
[11:36] <Jin> zipper_, join #google lol j/k
[11:36] <steven3423> I have an acer aspire 3680... How would I go about getting the wireless card to work in ubuntu?
[11:37] <mcummings_> steven3423: does lspci tell you the make/model of the wireless chipset?
[11:37] <armin> steven3423, i got an aspire 3690 and it works out of the box
[11:38] <Jin> steven3423, most of the time, it works out of the box
[11:38] <Jin> steven3423, if not, check ndiswrapper
[11:38] <voidlogic>  I'm having problems getting a tape drive detected. It works dual booting into windows so I don't think its a hardware issue. Its using the megaraid driver. It should be the 2nd device on channel 0, but I don't see anything but my cd-roms in /proc/scsi/scsi. If I do an lspci I see the controller card is indeed detected. The card+drive worked for one boot yesterday for but some reason it only worked that once. Any ideas?
[11:39] <Anarch> I'm trying to get a livecd up by remote control (voice to my boss),
[11:39] <Anarch> and he says /etc/init.d/sshd doesn't exist.
[11:39] <Anarch> This is a Dapper LTS livecd.
[11:40] <armin> steven3423, can you paste the output of "lspci | grep Atheros"?
[11:40] <stev2> anyone up to helping me with sound issues?
[11:41] <steven3423> mcummings_: intel PRO/Wireless 3945BG.... would that be the make and model of the card?
[11:41] <armin> stev2, just ask, don't ask to ask :)
[11:41] <stev2> good point.
[11:41] <neverblue> yeah, what he said...
[11:41] <skakko01> ciao a tutti
[11:42] <B52doc> Poningru you got my wireless network card to work ! Me love you long time :)
[11:42] <armin> steven3423, did you have a look at the network config console from the system->administration menu?
[11:42] <armin> steven3423, is there anything cool showing up i mean?
[11:42] <bigjohnto> if i have a dd image, how can i mount it so that i can see what is in it?
[11:42] <steven3423> 0000:03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[11:42] <bigjohnto> data.dump
[11:42] <steven3423> armin: that's what lspci says
[11:42] <cpro> _obob hello
[11:42] <armin> steven3423, bingo that one works out of the box
[11:42] <armin> steven3423, congratulations hehe
[11:43] <B52doc> poningru: Thanks so much! I ran the package and the wifi worked with no terminal commands or anything :)
[11:43] <stev2> ok, here is the problem.  at first, sound on my desktop was working, up until the moment i installed ubuntu 7.04 on my hard drive. so, I just dealt with it and suddenly, bout 2 weeks later it worked again. after i logged off and shut the computer down, my mother got on windows xp and i shut down, then booted up ubuntu and it doesn't work anymore.
[11:43] <steven3423> armin: the prob I think is I cna't turn my card on... like there's a switch but it doesn't turn on
[11:44] <steven3423> armin: it'll only turn on in windows
[11:44] <imbecile> hey guys, what do i need to play a kvcd that is already mounted to disk?
[11:44] <armin> steven3423: uuuuuuuuuh
[11:44] <steven3423> armin: I slide it over... it slides back but nothing happens
[11:44] <armin> steven3423: that switch on the front`
[11:44] <steven3423> armin: yea
[11:44] <armin> ah yeah i got that one too
[11:44] <armin> hehe
[11:44] <stev2> so. help
[11:44] <armin> steven3423: it actually does do nothing?
[11:44] <steven3423> armin: yea... nothing
[11:44] <steven3423> armin: but it works in vista
[11:44] <armin> steven3423: are you sure the LED is not lighting before you try that?
[11:45] <steven3423> armin: it doesn't even blink
[11:45] <armin> steven3423: i mean, probably it's just on and you just need to configure your card...
[11:45] <armin> it shouldnt blink :)
[11:45] <web_knows> how can I avoid some users to reboot/shutdown the machine from GDM?
[11:45] <steven3423> armin: how do I configure my card?
[11:45] <armin> web_knows: edit /etc/gdm/blablablasomethingwithconfig i think
[11:45] <steven3423> armin: and how would I tell wheter it's on or off
[11:45] <armin> steven3423: uuuuuuuuuuuuuhm
[11:45] <web_knows> armin, great!
[11:45] <web_knows> thanks!
[11:45] <riyo> How come every theme I install results in everything being gray and windows like?
[11:45] <riyo> Is something corrupt or something?
[11:46] <web_knows> you did the trick!
[11:46] <web_knows> hooray!
[11:46] <armin> steven3423: lets discuss that in PM, too much noise here right now
[11:46] <steven3423> armin: this name isn't registered
[11:46] <steven3423> armin: i don't think I can pm
[11:46] <stev2> ok, here is the problem.  at first, sound on my desktop was working, up until the moment i installed ubuntu 7.04 on my hard drive. so, I just dealt with it and suddenly, bout 2 weeks later it worked again. after i logged off and shut the computer down, my mother got on windows xp and i shut down, then booted up ubuntu and it doesn't work anymore.
[11:46] <momo521> poningru? still there?
[11:46] <armin> oh
[11:46] <cpro> hello everybody, can anybody tell me how to install a driver in order to get my "logitech quickcam chat" functioning?
[11:47] <armin> steven3423: you got aim/icq?
[11:47] <steven3423> armin: yes
[11:47] <turbolover> hey guys
[11:47] <turbolover> have you ever seen an error like this?
[11:47] <turbolover> http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/1119502850_808292b075_b.jpg
[11:47] <steven3423> armin: mars2686 on aim
[11:47] <randomwalker> Ctrl+arrow-keys don't work in gnome-terminal in feisty. how can i fix this?
[11:47] <Jin> how to update a single application with apt?
[11:47] <Twelve-60> turbolover: must be the double text error!
[11:48] <cpro> im on ubuntu 6.06 dapper - can anybody tell me how to install a driver in order to get my "logitech quickcam chat" functioning?
[11:48] <afief> cpro, best way is to install a new kernel
[11:49] <imbecile> hey guys, what do i need to play a kvcd that is already mounted to disk? will vlc work????????????????????????????????????????
[11:49] <cpro> afief: how can I do that ?
[11:49] <hyperactivecrond> what's the easiest way to get beryl/compiz/whatever it's called going on 7.04?
[11:49] <afief> cpro, the easiest way would be to upgrade. alternatively you could compile your own
[11:49] <sbcdestroy> does anyone know how to get sound working in stepmania. its a ddr game for pc
[11:50] <imbecile> hyperactivecrond: by using the repos
[11:50] <cpro> afief: isnt there any kind of driver to be installed via apt-get ?
[11:50] <Jin> any one know how to create a shortcut on the desktop to open an url in a new tab in firefox?
[11:50] <afief> cpro, not that I'm aware of
[11:51] <momo521> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3189908#post3189908....help please
[11:51] <momo521> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3189908#post3189908 ....help please*
[11:52] <cpro> afief, the proble is that it is not on my own machine and I'm afraid to crash the whole AMD64 system wich has also Win Vista on it.
[11:52] <jrib> Jin: create a launcher that launches: firefox -new-tab URL
[11:52] <Jin> jrib, thx
[11:53] <afief> cpro, well, having vista on it shouldn't be a problem, and there are quite a few guides out there on compiling a new kernel
[11:53] <cpro> afief:  the proble is that it is not on my own machine and I'm afraid to crash the whole AMD64 system wich has also Win Vista on it.
[11:53] <cpro> afief: ok ill try that
[11:54] <afief> momo521, depends on your driver I guess, but the only way I can think about to fix it is to remotely edit some stuff using ssh
[11:54] <cpro> afief: thaks a lot
[11:54] <momo521> how would i do that?
[11:54] <afief> cpro, you're welcome, sorry I couldn't help more
[11:55] <afief> momo521, install openshh-server on the laptop, then connect from an external machine "$ ssh  username@ip.to.your.laptop" and change what ever configuration you need
[11:56] <momo521> but i dont kno how to change the configuration
[11:56] <cpro> afief: i have another question, skype works only on way on my own dapper i can hear but i cant talk. I heard about some kind of bug in skype and ther was a way to solve this, did you hear about this?
[11:56] <momo521> thats the problem
[11:56] <momo521> i want to trun off the monitor on my laptop
[11:56] <momo521> and only use the external one
[11:56] <zipper_> anyone who can give me a hint on how to upload pictures to my gmail account using picasa for linux? "Export" only let me move my folders to somewhere else on my harddrive?
[11:56] <afief> cpro, nope, sorry I don't use skype(or any other softphone for that matter)
[11:57] <cpro> afief: thanks again!
[11:58] <vlt> I upgraded from Edgy (was a fresh install) to Feisty. But now it only boots to console. I have to run at least `telinit 3` (sic!) to get kdm and stuff running. WTF happened here?
[11:59] <fr500> !lvm
[11:59] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:59] <EADG_> I need to list all files with (foo) but ls is choking on the brackets, quotes " & ' are no help either, what do I need to type?
[12:00] <afief> EADG_, escape them ls *\(foo\)*
[12:00] <EADG_> afief: trying now.
[12:00] <carthik> EADG_, afief, wouldn't ls *foo* work ?
[12:01] <vlt> `runlevel` returns "unknown", even after `telinit 2`. Any idea?
[12:01] <afief> carthik, would, but as far as I unerstood he wants files containing (foo) and not foo