=== txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === Furax- [n=furax@host-84-222-140-146.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === wubinoobi [n=chatzill@c-76-108-237-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:51] good morning, evening, or whatever it is where you are... [12:51] 7pm in south florida [12:53] is there anyone that can answer a few questions for me about configuring my modem properly? just installed x on an old desktop today but it doesn't want to connect. i have a usb wire coming directly from the surfboard modem, but firefox don't wanna surf. === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.13.132] has joined #xubuntu [12:55] i so sad. [12:56] wubinoobi, the usb on a surfboard is hit or miss with windows.... [12:56] why would you try it with linux??? [12:56] does this PC have a lan card? === wubinoobi_ [n=chatzill@c-76-108-237-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:00] wubinoobi_, the usb on a surfboard is hit or miss with windows.... [01:00] does this PC have a lan card? === rswolff [n=rswolff@mail.networc.com] has joined #xubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #xubuntu [01:11] is there anyone that can answer a few questions for me about configuring my modem properly? just installed x on an old desktop today but it doesn't want to connect. i have a usb wire coming directly from the surfboard modem, but firefox don't wanna surf. [01:12] wubinoobi_, the usb on a surfboard is hit or miss with windows.... [01:12] does this PC have a lan card? === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp207-186.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] [01:14] i have network settings open, cans tabs for connections, general, dns, and hosts ... i have no clue what info to fill in... [01:15] DOES THIS PC HAVE A LAN CARD?????? [01:16] wubinoobi_, if you dont want help....then never mind [01:19] is there anyone that can answer a few questions for me about configuring my modem properly? just installed x on an old desktop today but it doesn't want to connect. i have a usb wire coming directly from the surfboard modem, but firefox don't wanna surf. [01:19] wubinoobi_, yes i can....all you need to do is ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I ASK [01:26] wubinoobi_, you there? [01:27] you can try this http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Motorola-Surfboard-Modem.html [01:30] vidd: i don't mean windows i mean xubuntu [01:30] vidd: it's funny cuz i helped my friend set up x on her machine the other nite, and it detected her WIRELESS in a hurry; now i can't seem to get it to detect my wired connection... :( [01:30] i have cable modem running to router, and a ethernet from the router to this laptop. i have a usb wire running directly from the cable modem to the desktop with x on it. [01:32] the reason i mention windows is...if it rarely works in windows...why wiyld you think it would work in linux? [01:33] Surprisingly enough, it's not a requirement that something work in Windows. [01:34] what you SHOULD do is connect the comp to a proven method rather the a shotty method that rarely works on ANY platform [01:34] on the 'modem' tap in ppp0 interface window its asking me for 'modem port', but under that is asking for 'dial type, pulses or tones' but i'm not doing a dialup... [01:35] thats because the modem tap is for dial-up modems...not for your setup [01:37] did you look at the page i posted? [01:37] oh, well; gotta go pick someone up from work, be back in an hour or so if anyone will still be here... === ron_o [n=me@12-210-182-253.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === nalioth [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #xubuntu === SamRose [n=SamRose@c-71-197-16-217.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === scizzo- [n=scizzo@vxj-104-197-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === WhiteJackal [n=aafd@24-158-203-98.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] hey === WhiteJackal [n=aafd@24-158-203-98.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has left #xubuntu [] === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-244-223.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@96-141-58-66.gci.net] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-46.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === FireBall [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-46.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === steven3214 [n=tammy@adsl-218-104-56.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] say I have two laptops... is there anyway I can mount the second laptops hard drive onto the first one so I can install ubuntu? (the second one doesn't have a cd-drive) [03:48] steven3214: does it have anything else that can be used at boot up? [03:48] steven3214: like a floopy or something? [03:49] AFAIK you need something like floopy drive or simular to be able to boot a installation... [03:50] if the computers networkcard has PXE then you can use it to get the operating system via a network connection but I am not sure how that works really === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:52] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html [03:53] that looks rather interesting === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === FireBall is now known as illu45` [03:57] scizzo-: yes... it can boot from floppy [03:57] scizzo-: I have muLinux in floppy form and thats what I boot the laptop with === FireBall [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-46.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === illu45` is now known as illu45 === cameron_ [n=cameron@cpe-76-190-241-239.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:59] when I install a program, where is it located? [04:00] cameron_: try "which " in the terminal [04:00] cameron_: most have the executable in /usr/bin, the library code in /usr/lib, and the neccesary data in /usr/share/ [04:00] steven3214: well haven't really tried to install it like that.....but I guess that howto is rather nice to get started with....sorry I can't help you much more [04:01] scizzo-: but do you think it'd be possible to some how mount it over usb or ethernet... or should I just drop that idea and try that howto or some other means? [04:02] how do I install a .tar.bz2?, inttalling from the repos won't work, (old version) === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === tech404 [n=tech404@64.238.101.124] has joined #xubuntu === mindframe [n=mindfram@67.132.191.212] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@mobile-166-217-084-046.mycingular.net] has joined #xubuntu === aoirthoir [n=giorrais@wsip-68-99-156-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:29] does xubuntu run on nokia 770 perchance? === Rockinghorse [n=me@cpe-76-87-154-6.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:33] aoirthoir: no, i don't believe the processor architecture that the Nokia 770 runs is supported by xubuntu [05:34] maxamillion, that's what I was afraid of. I'm not skilled enough to compile on my own jez yet. Danke though. [05:35] aoirthoir: no problem [05:37] Debian should work on it. [05:38] Pumpernickel: this is true ... the actual Meamo system is just a custom debian setup [05:39] Exactly. [05:39] ah [05:39] well I am eventually going to start branching out [05:40] ive got the pepper pad 2, but was thinking about getting the pepper 3 which isnt an ARM so its much easier to just install whatever you want, ubuntu, windows..whatever [05:40] but I just got my nokia in today and it looks pretty neat..too much screen real estate taken over by menus though, so if xubuntu would run on it:) === cameron_ [n=cameron@cpe-76-190-241-239.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:41] That kind of platform seems like it'd be a decent fit for Enlightenment. [05:43] or joewm like on puppy [05:47] thanks for the help yall ima headin:) === aoirthoir [n=giorrais@wsip-68-99-156-37.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:52] how do I manuelly update a program? [05:55] cameron_: you mean ... "the program updated recently but not in the update manager" ...? [05:55] ya, the repos are out of date :( [05:57] cameron_: if there if a package for the application created by some third party site then you can download it and install with either gdebi or dpkg ... otherwise you have to install from source [05:57] it's a .bz2 [06:00] thats source [06:00] unless you really need the newer version its best to keep the repo's [06:00] It's Azureous, and the repos do not work at all, 2.0.0.5 [06:00] or wtvr [06:01] 2.5.0.0 | I need 2.5.0.4 [06:05] (ounce I extract the files, I can run it from the folder) [06:10] hello [06:11] cameron_, [06:11] normaly source you need to run some steps and compile [06:12] but for az its java and is preconpiled [06:12] there is a script inside the folder [06:12] do you know what it looks like? [06:12] you need to run it [06:13] its names i azureus or Azureus it's icon should be a white piece of paper with light gray gear on it [06:29] Rockinghorse is gone...but he'll be baack... [06:30] Rockinghorse: for the love of god start using '/me is gone .... but he'll be back' because this is what you just wrote to the channel "23:29 < Rockinghorse> Rockinghorse is gone...but he'll be baack..." ... and it just looks rediculous === bitform [n=bitform@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/bitform] has joined #xubuntu === yeo [n=yeo_h@ns.osaka.klab.org] has joined #xubuntu [06:41] or... [06:41] just leave or just idle [06:41] or said bbl [06:44] Jester45: yup === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-22-122.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.155.255] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-71-198-40-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:30] even though firefox is set as my "preferred" browser, whenever i click a link in an email using thunderbird, it opens up epiphany [07:30] how do i get it to use firefox? :X [07:35] http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3383 [07:35] XFCE bug 3383 in general "Terminal-0.2.6, URL handling allows remote shell command execution" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-16-175.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === yeo [n=yeo_h@ns.osaka.klab.org] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving.."] === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.163.41] has joined #xubuntu === logd [n=logd@host39-112-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu [08:36] hi all, i need help there's a way to smoothly playback midi in an old pc ? 600mhz @ 64mb ram ? [08:39] what are you trying to play [08:40] the type [08:41] i wanna playe midi files in kmid [08:41] but i want it to be smooth [08:41] is that audio [08:41] i'm using timidity but processor easily rises 100% [08:41] yeah [08:42] 600mhz should play audio fine [08:42] and it does for mp3 and like [08:42] hell 200 should work [08:42] but not for midi [08:42] is midi compressed at all [08:42] is it like .wav files [08:43] that might be your problem is i/o [08:44] does the files copy really slow [08:44] and how big are they [08:44] they're less than 50kb in size [08:44] humm [08:45] i guess something's wrong since timidity has to synthetize sound [08:45] have you tried any cli apps [08:45] try apt-get install mplayer-nogui [08:46] then run mplayer file [08:46] it would be the same mean timidity itself plays files slow [08:46] and i need timidity to support midi [08:47] well [08:47] you could try mplayer to see if its timidities fault [08:48] but mplayer shouldn't rely on timidity to play midi ? [08:48] why would it [08:49] btw i tried and mplayer isn't able to play at all [08:49] ok i wasnt sure if it coudl [09:02] now i'm trying to use sfxload to send the soundfont to the card an use it instead of timidity === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-34-162.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:18] hi cellofellow [09:18] hey there. [09:19] I can use xfburn to burn ISO's, right? It works, I mean. [09:19] no i think its broken [09:20] :( [09:20] what's a good app then? X-CD-Roast? [09:20] gnomebaker or gravemind [09:21] there anything special needs to be done with IDE/ATAPI drives? [09:21] no [09:21] ok, for some reason I thought there was. [09:22] where is GraveMind? [09:22] dont know [09:22] not in repos. [09:22] TheSheep, suggested it [09:28] gnomebaker doesn't have many gnome depends. (Didn't have to install any new ones, anyway.) [09:29] hahaha, look at that. There are some KDE4 packages in the repos now. === Jester45 removes said repo [09:30] are there any distros that run xfce without gnome stuf by defualt === charlie_ [n=charlie@246.sub-75-196-121.myvzw.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:30] maybe ZenWalk. [09:30] I don't think DreamLinux does. [09:30] Xubuntu tries not to. [09:31] (Only XFCE distros I can think of.) [09:31] There is PHLAK, but it's not an installable distro. [09:31] i know it doesnt try to [09:31] but its using more of them and heavier ones [09:31] I know Xubuntu uses GTK+ 2 apps, without GNOME libs, whenever possible. [09:32] im a super tweaker [09:32] I'd be just fine with Sylpheed instead of Thunderbird, if I didn't just use GMail. [09:32] like removeing the ttyls all but 2 so i can save 1mb of ram [09:32] how do you do that anyway. (I never use all the tty's.) [09:33] removed them from init [09:34] I know the principle, but have yet to have any files I edit do it. [09:35] what *exactly* do you do? [09:35] (Odd that gnomebakers burning progress bar constantly shows higher time estimates instead of lower.) [09:36] jester how do you remove the ttyls??? === saispo [n=saispo@ryu.zarb.org] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow did something weird tonight: disabled GDM and started to just use startxfce4 [09:38] script it [09:38] make it run at start up [09:39] hehehe, but then I'd lose the ability to actually use a tty terminal, which comes in handy I think. [09:39] I could script it with a simple Yes/No question. [09:39] yep === cellofellow is not sure how to get input with shell scripts, however. [09:39] start xfce? [09:40] the command to start xfce from a tty is startxfce4, which runs startx as well. [09:40] I see [09:40] no [09:40] i was saying what the script would say [09:41] I noticed, that's why I said "I see". :p [09:42] but, what shell scripting command is similar to raw_input() in python? [09:42] read [09:42] k [09:42] echo "start xfce?" [09:43] read -e XFCE [09:44] oh, ok, cool [09:45] if [ $XFCE = "yes"] ; then startxfce4 ; else echo "Fine your cli junkie" [09:45] "" around $XFCE [09:46] ought there to be an elif somewhere? [09:46] or, no, a fi [09:46] yea [09:46] and a [09:46] exit 0 [09:47] with out the exit 0 it might keep its pid... waste of memory [09:48] cellofellow, can you do pyGTK [09:48] if I were putting this into .bash_profile? [09:48] I haven't ever tried, but I've done minimal wxPython. [09:49] wxWidgets get rendered by GTK in Linux. [09:49] They are Win32 in Windows, and Mac-whatever in Mac. [09:49] sort of a middle-layer toolkit. [09:50] o [09:50] yea the ttys [09:50] remove them from /etc/event.d/tty# [09:51] i edited them [09:51] and cahed start to stop [09:51] changed* [09:51] I still have 6 ttys when I only have 3 tty files in that dir. [09:52] really [09:52] they only use like 300kb mem [09:52] never mind, I just moved them to /etc/event.d/removed, so init mussed of still picked them up [09:53] do you know if there's a way to get nano to go into replace mode instead of insert? [09:54] nope [09:54] nope you don't know or nope it can't be done? [09:54] first one [09:54] cellofellow, do you have root powers on vidd's machine? [09:55] yeah, I think I still do. [09:55] we got 2 servers now [09:55] im special again... only person with root power other than vidd [09:56] I have root on vidd.us [09:56] i wonder if he knows [09:57] I used it last to get Exim4 running. [09:59] You have any idea how to use ! characters in echo? [09:59] echo "!" doesnt work [10:00] cellofellow@vidd:~$ echo "!" [10:00] -bash: !: event not found [10:00] cellofellow@vidd:~$ printf "!" [10:00] -bash: !: event not found [10:02] ryan@ubuntu:~$ echo '!' [10:02] ! [10:02] ryan@ubuntu:~$ [10:03] weird [10:03] forgot === grumpymole [n=warren@c211-28-135-80.lowrp2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [10:05] does || in bash work the same way as in other programming languages? ie meaning OR in an if statement? === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [10:06] i think would be a double pipe [10:07] nope [10:07] just egnores it and thats the end of the line [10:07] what's OR then? [10:11] found what || is [10:12] COMMAND1 || COMMAND2 [10:12] COMMAND2 is executed if, and only if, COMMAND1 returns a non-zero exit [10:12] status. [10:12] so, same as && [10:12] no [10:12] more picky? [10:12] && is status 0 [10:12] oh, odd [10:12] && means everything is all good [10:12] so, if before fails, run me [10:13] so COMMAND1 && COMMAND2 [10:13] commands 2 only runs if command1 is happy when it exits [10:13] brb === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:16] Is there some magic trick to finding out what is using the CD drive? [10:17] it won't unmount [10:17] try [10:17] btw, that script worked. :) [10:17] sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom [10:19] finally got it out of there. [10:19] hehe [10:19] im magic [10:20] still showing on xfdesktop though [10:20] well [10:20] im not perfect [10:20] well I used eject to eject it after it unmounted. === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:23] idiot! it's still there! [10:24] xfdesktop --reload [10:27] no help [10:29] well [10:29] *whistles* [10:30] md5sum is slow at the best of times. running it on the CD device is sluggish. [10:30] im gonna go away soon [10:30] ok [10:30] I should have been asleep like 5 hours ago. [10:30] just waiting for lappy to die [10:30] lol === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp199-178.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu [10:31] man [10:31] i need to get a xbox mod chip [10:31] that'd be sweet [10:31] can anyone say home media center [10:32] home cinema more like [10:32] set up torrentflux on it [10:32] well, I should go. Ain't gettin anywhere with this junk. Later dudes. [10:33] and fuseftp a folder on the desktop to my ftp server === sayers [n=sayers@76.20.133.246] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=hellequi@85.92.163.41] has joined #xubuntu === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@96-141-58-66.gci.net] has left #xubuntu [] === faemir [n=daniel@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Rockinghorse [n=me@cpe-76-87-154-6.socal.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === elbing [n=elbing@152.pool85-60-51.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@116.Red-83-35-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@unaffiliated/noiesmo] has joined #xubuntu [12:15] hey all === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [12:16] I wanna strip xubuntu of all unneed packages for use as server just to run LAMP and File server does anyone have or know where to find a list of packages that are not needed === elbing [n=elbing@152.pool85-60-51.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === noiesmo [n=noiesmo@unaffiliated/noiesmo] has left #xubuntu [] === michaelpo [n=presario@60.51.132.189] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACCAF8D6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === faemir [n=daniel@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === faemir [n=daniel@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=hellequi@85.92.163.41] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp199-178.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === BWMerlin [n=BW~Merli@58.174.115.72] has joined #xubuntu === BWMerlin [n=BW~Merli@58.174.115.72] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-115-192.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp199-178.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === mattie [n=matt@89.241.175.56] has joined #xubuntu [03:09] :) [03:09] hey all === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === Riot777 [n=riot777@aatd182.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p2154-ipbf3204marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p2154-ipbf3204marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-155-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.13.229] has joined #xubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-244-193-132.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@74.12.178.126] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-62-155-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.13.229] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === joakim_ [n=Leho@217-159-183-174-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.13.229] has left #xubuntu [] === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-83-173.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-83-173.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === loswillios [n=hbt@unaffiliated/loswillios] has joined #xubuntu === joakim__ [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [05:29] hi [05:30] I've dist-upgraded to 7.10 but now my printer stopped working [05:30] is there a way to downgrade cups? [05:30] hm, loswillios ... not sure. === helpme [n=yudi@222.126.98.212] has joined #xubuntu [05:35] hello === DivideZero [i=DivideZe@85.65.5.70.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #XUBUNTU [05:35] to point it out, i already tried logging in using Sudo Su [05:35] but whenever i right click on my 2nd harddrive or any device and try to change Permissions on read/write [05:35] its inaccessible, it says the owner is root [05:36] j1mc: seems that aptitude install `dpkg -l|grep cups`=1.2.8-0ubuntu8 worked [05:38] j1mc: do you still have cups-1.2.8-0ubuntu8 running? [05:38] I need the original /etc/cups/cupsd.conf [05:39] hi loswillios ... :( i'm sorry, but i'm at work, so i don't think i can help now. :( [05:41] j1mc: do you know where the packages are extracted? [05:41] hm, no sandbox in xubuntu i guess === joakim_ [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === cameron_ [n=cameron@cpe-76-190-241-239.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:43] what would you ppls recommend for mounting images? iso === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu [05:43] (iso) [05:44] !iso [05:44] To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. === helpme [n=yudi@222.126.98.212] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:44] a gui thingy?, like thw Windows equilevent Daemon tools === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === joakim__ [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === joakim_ [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@217-159-146-43-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-171.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === fornt_ [n=anon@5ac779b4.bb.sky.com] has joined #xubuntu === elbing [n=elbing@152.pool85-60-51.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #xubuntu [06:27] can anyone confirm how much ram is needed to install Xubuntu? The download page at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/ says "You will need at least 128MB of RAM to install from this CD." but http://www.xubuntu.org/get claims 192mb [06:30] fornt_: you need 192MB to run the live cd === cameron_ [n=cameron@cpe-76-190-241-239.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [06:30] fornt_: you can install with the alternate cd with less ram [06:30] TheSheep: Would Xubuntu run acceptably on a 128mb/750mhz system? Is the alternate cd install fairly straight-forward? [06:31] fornt_: it will run, "acceptably" depends on what you accept [06:31] how do I install xAcetoneISO2-src_BETA3.tar.gz.tar?, [06:31] or just a tar file? [06:32] cameron_: you don't install tar files, it's an archive [06:33] TheSheep: Well, hopefully have performance not too far away than the win98se also on the system [06:33] withen the archive is a program though, [06:34] cameron_: then unpack it and look for some 'readme' inside [06:35] o, ok === joakim__ [n=Leho@217-159-251-26-dsl.the.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu === josesito [n=josesito@200.89.120.15] has joined #xubuntu === josesito [n=josesito@200.89.120.15] has left #xubuntu ["Saliendo"] [06:39] cameron_, is that the azureus ones still? === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-244-193-132.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu [06:40] no, I got that fixed, I replace the Azureus2.jar file and it works [06:41] the one I'm working on is xAcetoneISO2-src_BETA3, but I just got that installed [06:41] i was gonna say i told you 3 times allready [06:41] I know, I'm a Linux Noob [06:42] I was just looking for an easy fix, and I ended up using the terminal to copy/move files for the first time XD [06:44] well [06:44] at least you can use a terminal [06:45] ya, I've never even used cmd in windows before, lol, I heart gui [06:46] well cmd in windows is weak [06:47] in linux its the heart of most things [06:49] ya, I've realized that, lol [06:54] many gui programs use cli apps as the backend [06:54] they just give you buttons and not -options === nzk [n=nzk@ool-4573ea02.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:59] Where do I specify what programs I'd like on startup? [07:00] Applications > Settings > Autostarted Applications [07:02] Wrong. [07:02] Gmailnotify keeps starting up, and I don't want it to, but it's not there. === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-244-193-132.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu [07:03] Not there as in not in "Autostarted applications" [07:03] nzk: then close it and save your session when logging out [07:03] Not to mention that XFCE keeps opening the a terminal with 2 tabs as well as pidgin on startup, which is very annoying. [07:03] nzk: you asked where you add your applications, not where are all of them stored [07:03] nzk: just fix it and save your session on logout [07:03] I never saved my session before. [07:04] nzk: of course [07:04] nzk: the programs just do it out of malice [07:04] nzk: to annoy you [07:04] I'm serious. I've never saved my session. [07:04] nzk: try doing it now [07:05] I just don't want gmailnotify to start. === kosch [n=kosch@unaffiliated/kosch] has joined #xubuntu [07:07] How do I start a program from command line and not have it take up an entire session spewing it's debug and other miscellanea? [07:08] nzk: you can run it with alt+f2 or just redirect the output to /dev/null and start it in backgorund [07:08] Err, how? [07:08] The second thing. [07:08] program > /dev/null 2>&1 & === scizzo- [n=scizzo@vxj-104-197-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #xubuntu === joakim [n=Leho@217-159-251-26-dsl.the.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [07:13] TheSheep: I've finally found a purpose for /dev/null [07:13] Any other purposes for it? [07:13] what purpose did you find, nzk ? [07:14] j1mc: Piping debug output to it. [07:16] ah, ok. you mean, output that you don't care to see? === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=hellequi@85.92.164.60] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.164.60] has joined #xubuntu [07:25] what is the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/modprobe.conf? [07:27] vidd: that'd be /etc/modprobe.conf [07:28] vidd: or, in more recent versions, any file in /etc/modprobe.d I think === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-109-245-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === speaker219 [n=charlie@adsl-144-233-140.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] Helo [07:34] Hello?? [07:37] !ask speaker219, [07:37] yes speaker219 ? === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-109-245-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #xubuntu [] === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-109-245-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] oh, hello [07:42] how can i set something to start up at boot in XFCE? [07:42] did you need help with something speaker219 ? [07:42] yes... ^^ [07:42] put it in the "autostarted applivcations" === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp199-178.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] [07:43] where's that? [07:43] application>settings>autostarted applications === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #xubuntu === vasilije [n=vasil@89.205.11.97] has joined #xubuntu [07:47] where are the ip tables located? [07:48] vidd: mu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === bruenig [n=bruenig@cpe-72-190-96-243.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:59] I can't get the open with preference to stay [07:59] I keep changing it from avidemux to vlc, but everytime I login, it goes back [08:13] What program can i use to make ISO files of my CDs?. [08:14] i need a good and easy program =) [08:14] sulle: dd [08:14] dd ? [08:14] sulle: yes, dd [08:14] Oh ok. google.com for dd [08:14] =) [08:14] sulle: typing 'man dd' in a terminal might be better [08:15] learn the power of man [08:15] Ok, thank you for ur help [08:15] . [08:15] sulle: you want 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myisofile.iso' [08:15] Thnx man === damemorder [n=me@h16.216.88.75.ip.alltel.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-244-176.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === faemir [n=daniel@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === s|k_ [n=bjorn@g2spf.jeeves.ask.info] has joined #xubuntu === Chadarius [n=Chadariu@c-71-228-30-253.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:52] hmm... How long should 'Retrieving udev...' take? I'm pushing 30min. === rhoderyc [n=roderic@ool-44c61c05.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === boarder-winterma [n=boarder-@80.141.222.31] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@216.139.26.215] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.164.60] has joined #xubuntu === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === faemir [n=daniel@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp120-170.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === fornt_ [n=anon@5ac779a8.bb.sky.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:56] how would one change the default window manager for a single user? [10:59] neozen: just select it at the login screen [10:59] neozen: it will ask whether to save the choice [11:00] ..ok... I'll try it [11:00] be back in a bit all === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.164.9] has joined #xubuntu === cameron_ [n=cameron@cpe-76-190-241-239.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:17] how do I give a bin file the right to execute in the terminal? === speaker219 [n=charlie@unaffiliated/speaker219] has joined #xubuntu [11:23] hello === speaker219 [n=charlie@unaffiliated/speaker219] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === cellofellow [n=josh@72-55-209-62.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-83-173.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-210-186.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Methamphetamine [n=snickers@cpe-72-227-139-216.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === l05ty [n=spam@5ac09a49.bb.sky.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:13] hello [12:14] is there anyone here that maybe able to help me please..?