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duluuhello, I'm having problem with CNAME on bind905:44
duluuall other records are working, but CNAME 05:45
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khermans_is anyone using the linux-lowlatency kernel?05:53
duluukhermans_: it's mostly used on desktops05:58
khermans_duluu, for what reaosn?05:59
khermans_duluu, and why is it in multiverse?05:59
duluukhermans_: if you work with sound and video, it's you choice06:00
duluukhermans_: on server it's useless06:00
khermans_duluu, so the kernel patches are ideal for something like ubuntu studio?06:00
khermans_if i am understanding you06:00
khermans_its so that your audio/video gets highest priority06:00
khermans_correct?06:01
duluukhermans_: right, it's used by ubuntu-studio 06:01
khermans_duluu, why is it in multiverse though?06:01
khermans_some non-free patches from vendors?06:02
duluukhermans_: i dunno06:02
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kshahnjdvsftpd is killing me, I could connect when I had the server next to me on a rinky dink router, now that its away from me on static, behind a different router, I can connect but can't a directory listing06:03
kshahnjd*can't get06:03
kshahnjdif anyone can help, id appreciate it06:04
khermans_kshahnjd, you have passive ftp enabled?06:14
kshahnjdlet me check06:17
kshahnjdvsftpd.conf?06:17
ajmitchon the client side06:18
khermans_kshahnjd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3564206:18
kshahnjdreading06:19
khermans_kshahnjd, as ajmitch said, make sure your client supports06:19
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khermans_ajmitch, i use ssh for everything nowadays...cmon!06:21
khermans_kshahnjd, check out scp if you like...06:21
kshahnjdscp?06:23
kshahnjdi'm using filezilla btw06:23
ajmitchfilezilla supports sftp06:25
qmanyes, the internet would become so much better if ftp died off and sftp/scp took its place06:27
qmanunfortunately that's not yet the case06:27
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qmanso, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on setting up a proxy server for wifi hotspot authentication06:30
qmansuggested software to use, or any guides or anything...right now the wifi is only secured by a 64-bit WEP key, and it would be much better overall to go the web proxy route06:31
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krautmoin09:16
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cyrenityhi all12:16
cyrenitymy ubuntu box is behaiving odd12:16
cyrenitysome times my dhcp hangs , some times my vpn hangs12:17
pmjdebruijncyrenity: my best guess would be bad hardware... are you using ECC memory, did you run memtest?12:17
cyrenityno12:18
pmjdebruijntry that12:19
cyrenityits its DDR12:22
cyrenityi have asuse borad12:22
cyrenitywith hard ware raid12:22
pmjdebruijnuh12:27
pmjdebruijnwhat hardware raid?12:27
pmjdebruijnonboard?12:27
pmjdebruijncyrenity: ?12:28
pmjdebruijncyrenity: do you mean onboard raid? that's almost never hardware RAID, unless your motherboard cost $50012:28
cyrenityon 12:32
cyrenitydedicated hardware  raid12:33
cyrenitycard12:34
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pmjdebruijncyrenity: what one?12:58
cyrenity3ware raid cards01:05
cyrenitydid three ware do problems in ubuntu01:05
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cyrenitypmjdebruijn u there01:14
pmjdebruijnyes01:14
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cyrenitywths up01:44
pmjdebruijnwths up?01:45
cyrenityhey01:47
cyrenityplz guide me 01:47
cyrenityhow i check all thses memmory stuffs and raid stuff remotely01:48
cyrenitymy linux box is behaving odd01:48
pmjdebruijncyrenity: you probably need to go local... take a look at your dmesg01:48
cyrenityvpn drops some times01:48
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cyrenitysee http://pastebin.com/m79fd1b9301:50
pmjdebruijnyou're using software raid01:51
pmjdebruijnthere's something wrong with either software raid and or reiserfs?01:52
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pmjdebruijncyrenity: I thought you had a hardware raid card?01:54
cyrenityyes01:54
cyrenity3ware01:54
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pmjdebruijnthat dmesg isn't complete01:54
pmjdebruijnand your scsi device, seems to pass the harddrive without RAID01:55
pmjdebruijncyrenity: what RAID card do you have?01:55
pmjdebruijncyrenity: to fix you probably need to go onsite... (at least that's my guess)01:56
cyrenityhum01:57
cyrenitybut i do there01:57
cyrenity3ware raid controller and i did raid 1 on these machines01:57
ScottKI saw a mention of Debian Bug #411487 on the Debian Python Modules list.  I don't see an Ubuntu bug on this, but someone who uses php, might want to see if we have this problem too. (I don't use php).02:01
ubotuDebian bug 411487 in libapache2-mod-python "libapache2-mod-python: md5 calculation conflicts with php5-mhash module" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/41148702:01
cyrenitybut how i check things02:02
cyrenityany idea?02:02
lcddcyrenity: the disks are supposed to show up as one single drive in the OS when using hardware raid. . it seems your disk controller is not configured for a raid at the moment02:02
cyrenityoh02:02
cyrenityno am seeing it as single disk02:03
cyrenityraid is working02:03
cyrenityhere prb is 02:03
cyrenitymy machine is behaving odd02:03
cyrenityits going hangs for some times and again resume02:03
cyrenityi have no idea what to see n what to not02:03
cyrenityaccording to me machine is ok02:03
cyrenityi wont check raid status02:04
cyrenityhay did u check my dmesg02:06
cyrenityi have upload it 02:06
cyrenityhttp://pastebin.com/m79fd1b9302:06
cyrenityhei02:16
cyrenityif machine reboot for 2-3 times for no reason02:16
cyrenitywhats the cuase02:16
pmjdebruijncould be a number of things02:18
pmjdebruijncyrenity: if it would be a single disk, your dmesg wouldn't report a WDC harddrive02:18
pmjdebruijn#02:19
pmjdebruijnsd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda02:19
pmjdebruijn#02:19
pmjdebruijn  Vendor: ATA       Model: WDC WD1200JS-00M  Rev: 02.002:19
cyrenitythen02:19
pmjdebruijnthat's not hardware RAID02:19
cyrenityhum02:20
cyrenityis it showing any error02:20
cyrenitywhat this mean02:20
cyrenity<cyrenity> if machine reboot for 2-3 times for no reason02:20
cyrenity<cyrenity> whats the cuase02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn> could be a number of things02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: if it would be a single disk, your dmesg wouldn't report a WDC harddrive02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn> #02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn> #02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn>   Vendor: ATA       Model: WDC WD1200JS-00M  Rev: 02.002:20
cyrenity<cyrenity> then02:20
cyrenity<pmjdebruijn> that's not hardware RAID02:21
cyrenity<cyrenity> hum02:21
cyrenity<cyrenity> is it showing any error02:21
cyrenityAug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)02:21
cyrenityAug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)02:21
cyrenityAug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 00000000000e4000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)02:21
cyrenityAug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000007ffb0000 (usable)02:21
pmjdebruijncyrenity: you DON'T NEED TO PASTEBACK02:21
cyrenityAug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 000000007ffb0000 - 000000007ffc0000 (ACPI data)02:21
cyrenityAug 15 13:26:05 2101FAT02:21
cyrenityya sorry02:21
pmjdebruijnthose are not errors02:21
cyrenityhey02:24
cyrenitytherse lots of msg for kernel in syslogs02:25
cyrenityam reading syslogs02:25
cyrenitysee this 02:30
cyrenityhttp://pastebin.com/m725fc56302:30
cyrenityis this a error02:30
pmjdebruijnno, why would you think that?02:31
pmjdebruijncyrenity: please paste an 'lspci' on a pastebin02:34
cyrenityhere http://pastebin.com/m15a7fd5c02:35
cyrenityactually in morning that machine hangs and reboot 3-4 times02:35
cyrenitynow works fine02:35
cyrenitymy boss is asking reason for that02:35
cyrenityi wont see any bad thing02:35
pmjdebruijnoh you have a 3Ware02:39
cyrenityyes02:39
cyrenityi told u02:40
cyrenitypreviously02:40
pmjdebruijnbut I see this is a desktop machine02:40
pmjdebruijncyrenity: I know, you never answered me what brand it was02:40
cyrenityits ubuntu ltsp server02:40
cyrenityi told u02:40
cyrenitysorry for that02:40
cyrenityis there any prb02:40
pmjdebruijnnot that I can see02:40
pmjdebruijnbut your dmesg isn't complete02:40
cyrenityshould i send u again02:41
pmjdebruijncyrenity: it's not complete...02:42
pmjdebruijncyrenity: stuff scrolled out of the buffer02:42
pmjdebruijnyou could check /var/log/messages02:42
pmjdebruijnhowever, I have to run...02:42
cyrenityok02:47
cyrenitythanks02:47
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Drazhastupid question04:34
Drazhahow do I install sshd on ubuntu server?04:35
pmjdebruijnsudo apt-get install openssh-server04:35
pmjdebruijnDrazha: sudo apt-cache search ssh04:35
Drazhawhat does apt-cache do again?04:35
infinityAllows you to search for things, and other fun stuff.04:36
infinitypmjdebruijn: And there's no reason it needs to be run as root.04:36
pmjdebruijnoh indeed04:37
pmjdebruijnmaar dat wordt snel gortig duur04:37
jdstranddendrobates: I emailed you the updated auth-client-config package and cc'd keescook04:42
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Drazhaanother stupid question: how do I list files that have been installed with a package?smth like rpm -ql blabla.rpm ?04:44
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jdstranddpkg -L package (man dpkg)04:46
Drazhathanks04:46
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Drazhadare I chance another stupid question?04:57
mralphabetyou don't need our permission to ask questions05:05
Drazhanah, just kidding05:08
Drazhagot fed up of myself being a luser so just googled it05:08
Drazhathank god there is tonnes of stuff on ubuntu on the net05:08
mralphabetinfo about ubuntu on the net? no way! ;)05:12
ewookhuh?05:13
lamontewook: I believe that's called "sarcasm"05:14
Drazhayeah, like, I googled ubuntu and it said: there are zillion entries, please engage tachyon cerebrlan interface for information interface05:14
ewooklamont: oh shit. fattade inte det.05:15
Drazhaand I was like... no way! what am I? Section 9 agent?05:15
ewooklamont: oops. I meant oh shit, didn't get it :)05:15
ewookto many open channels makes my head spinn.05:16
lamontswiss?05:16
ewookswede.05:17
lamontah, ok.05:19
lamontfigured it was some $LANG muttering, but didn't recognize it05:20
ewook:)05:34
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jdstrandkeescook: hi-- did you see my email about auth-client-config?05:58
keescookjdstrand: hi!  yes, thank you.  I will apply it shortly (catching up on email currently)05:58
jdstrandkeescook: so the build daemons build as root?05:59
keescookjdstrand: nope; likely use fakeroot05:59
keescookI use "sbuild" to do my builds since that's as close as I can get to the buildd's05:59
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keescooksince I do security updates, I need to have as close an environment to them as possible.  :)06:00
jdstrandkeescook: oh I see, so you tried the build first06:00
keescookyup06:00
jdstrandalright-- I only got a portion of the errors, but the fix is the same.  the tests will run as root, non-root, fakeroot, whatever-root!06:02
jdstrandthanks for taking care of it.  I appreciate it06:03
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keescookjdstrand: cool; thanks for fixing it.  :)  I've uploaded the new 0.4 now.06:12
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jdstrandkeescook: that was quick!06:25
jdstrandkeescook: much faster than my response to you  :)06:25
keescookjdstrand: well, you happened to be right there in my email.  :)06:28
keescookand I had really already done all the review work yesterday; your fix was small, so easy to re-review.  :)06:29
jdstrandcan't get too much smaller-- 3 lines of code in one and 1 line of code in the other06:29
jdstrandI'm glad it made it in before the freeze.  It has several enhancements that will be particularly useful for use in packaging.  so thanks again06:31
keescookyou bet; I'm glad to have it available.  :)06:31
mralphabetwhen is feature freeze? tomorrow?06:31
keescookmralphabet: yup (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule)06:35
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mathiazkeescook: about FF and apparmor06:37
mathiazkeescook: I need to get a new kernel module to test the new userspace apparmor06:37
mathiazkeescook: so how would this play with FF ?06:37
keescookmathiaz: it will be trivial to get an exception; we have been blocked on the kernel portion06:38
mathiazkeescook: ok. That's good new then.06:38
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kshahnjdhow do I properly configure /etc/hosts/ and /etc/network/interfaces for a server located behind a router (which is statically assigned a real IP)08:42
kshahnjdor a m than i can r would help08:42
mathiazkshahnjd: try help.ubuntu.com08:43
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kshahnjdmathiaz: I couldn't find what I was looking for in that documentation, it looks like it is for the desktop edition08:57
kshahnjdhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ where im going08:57
qmanyour hosts and interfaces files will depend entirely on your local network08:58
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qmanwhat network cards your machine has, what networks it's connected to, and what other hosts there are that you need08:58
kshahnjdI just want to prepare for a DNS transfer08:59
kshahnjdI've never done this by myself and not with help for 10 years08:59
kshahnjdI don't remember BIND, or host files, anything08:59
qmanwell, I don't even use my hosts file, it's only got the default information in it09:00
kshahnjdthe server (a laptop incidently) is sitting behind a linksys router which has static external ip09:00
kshahnjdthe router is forwarding all ports to the server09:01
kshahnjdthat's the extent of my config, except for the interfaces file where i told it to take 192.168.1.9809:01
qmanhere's the /etc/network/interfaces on my front end box...eth0 is dhcp to my ISP, and the other three are static09:02
qmanhttp://pastebin.com/m3185410609:02
kshahnjdsimilar to mine09:03
qmanI've got an older laptop running a web server, too...they make pretty decent servers on a small scale, an all in one UPS and server09:03
kshahnjdhehe true09:04
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nealmcbgood - launchpad is getting more flexible - they are beginning to serve as an openid provider.  See e.g. the login for https://shop.canonical.com/09:22
nealmcbkshah: what services will your server be providing?  Given your routing setup, for some services, setting it up as a dumb dhcp client would seem to work fine with no /etc/hosts or dns work at all.  in other cases it really needs to know what IP it appears to be to the outside world and you'll need to find that out somehow09:28
nealmcb...and plug it in to the appropriate config files09:29
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riesHey Guys, what version of php is supplied with teh latest version of ubuntu?10:06
dendrobatesries: php 5.2.1 is in  feisty 10:09
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riesalright, thanks...10:10
infinity(5.2.1 + security fixes, of course)10:10
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riesofcourse.... 10:12
riesis an update from 6.x to 7.x easy?10:18
riesI have a couple of server runnign XEN I need to upgrade10:18
mathiazries: from which version are you trying to upgrade ?10:19
rieslet me check...10:20
mathiazries: 6.06 -> 6.10 and 6.10 -> 7.04 is supported.10:20
riesI think I have 6.0610:21
rieshow can see that?10:21
riescat /etc/debian_version just shows testing7unstable10:21
ries$ cat debian_version10:21
riestesting/unstable10:21
mathiazries: cat /etc/lsb-release10:22
riesDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.10"10:22
rieslooks good then :)10:22
riescan I just change my sources list and do a dist-upgrade?10:24
infinityGenerally, yeah.  Watch what it plans to do, of course.10:25
nealmcbries: versions in ubuntu are timestamps, so 6.10 (october of 2006) is generally as different from 6.06 as it is from 7.0410:25
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riesnealmcb: Never knew that schema... thanks for teh tip :)10:26
nealmcbries: I've heard that dist-upgrade doesn't do a lot of the checks that the update-manager does - but the latter may still only be available as a gui10:27
mathiaznealmcb: I think that update-manager has a cli version10:28
nealmcbmathiaz: in which versions?  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerUpgradeTool10:28
mathiaznealmcb: hum.. May be the latest version only.10:29
mathiaznealmcb: I had a brief talk with mvo about it during the last sprint10:29
riesnealmcb: it's a server.... I don't have a gui as far as I know...10:30
riesI never had problems with dist-upgrade when I was using ubuntu10:30
nealmcbries: so I'd advice good backups (as usual) and attention to warning messages.  I wish I understood better what update-manager was doing10:30
riessorry... when I was using Debian10:30
riesI expect Ubuntu will be more or less the same...10:31
riesI'll make a backup of mu domU, upgrade and see what happens10:31
nealmcbries: nor I.  but I heard reports of problems especially when upgrading to edgy10:31
nealmcbedgy == 6.1010:31
riesI want to install my server with 7 sicne I see that XEN is included...10:34
riesthen I can get rid of my custom installation...10:35
riesI hope that my server hardware will be recognized correctly though...10:35
rieswith edgy I had mayor problems with the raid controller10:35
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ksclarkeI've put ubuntu server on a machine and am a bit surprised to discover feisty is using 2.1.3 of wordpress11:29
ksclarkeI'm new to ubuntu but it looks like edgy/dapper had a more recent version of wp but dapper doesn't?11:30
ksclarkefeisty I mean11:30
ksclarkeunless I use the back-ports option11:32
ksclarkeis all this correct or am I misunderstanding something?11:32
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PumpernickelDapper had 2.0.2, feisty has 2.1.3.11:32
ScottKAnd 2.2.2 is in Gutsy.11:33
ksclarkeah, I misread the 2.0.x in the earlier ones for the 2.211:38
ksclarkeso if I want a secure wordpress I need to get that package from gutsy11:38
ksclarkethe wordpress site makes it seem like 2.2 is a mandatory upgrade11:39
nealmcbhttp://wordpress.org/download/legacy/ says they are committed to keeping 2.0 secure for 10 years11:54
nealmcbksclarke: ^11:54
nealmcbsorry... "until 2010"....11:55
ksclarkeyeah, but feisty has 2.1.311:55
ksclarkeor is it 2.3.111:55
ksclarkemust be 2.1.3 because latest is 2.211:55
nealmcbksclarke: sounds plausible.  seems like dapper needs a security update also?  to e.g. 2.0.11?  But I haven't looked at the security issues12:01
ksclarkewell, I guess I'll have to figure out how to pull gutsy packages into feisty later tonight12:03
ksclarkethanks12:04
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