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[05:44] <duluu> hello, I'm having problem with CNAME on bind9
[05:45] <duluu> all other records are working, but CNAME 
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[05:53] <khermans_> is anyone using the linux-lowlatency kernel?
[05:58] <duluu> khermans_: it's mostly used on desktops
[05:59] <khermans_> duluu, for what reaosn?
[05:59] <khermans_> duluu, and why is it in multiverse?
[06:00] <duluu> khermans_: if you work with sound and video, it's you choice
[06:00] <duluu> khermans_: on server it's useless
[06:00] <khermans_> duluu, so the kernel patches are ideal for something like ubuntu studio?
[06:00] <khermans_> if i am understanding you
[06:00] <khermans_> its so that your audio/video gets highest priority
[06:01] <khermans_> correct?
[06:01] <duluu> khermans_: right, it's used by ubuntu-studio 
[06:01] <khermans_> duluu, why is it in multiverse though?
[06:02] <khermans_> some non-free patches from vendors?
[06:02] <duluu> khermans_: i dunno
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[06:03] <kshahnjd> vsftpd is killing me, I could connect when I had the server next to me on a rinky dink router, now that its away from me on static, behind a different router, I can connect but can't a directory listing
[06:03] <kshahnjd> *can't get
[06:04] <kshahnjd> if anyone can help, id appreciate it
[06:14] <khermans_> kshahnjd, you have passive ftp enabled?
[06:17] <kshahnjd> let me check
[06:17] <kshahnjd> vsftpd.conf?
[06:18] <ajmitch> on the client side
[06:18] <khermans_> kshahnjd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35642
[06:19] <kshahnjd> reading
[06:19] <khermans_> kshahnjd, as ajmitch said, make sure your client supports
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[06:21] <khermans_> ajmitch, i use ssh for everything nowadays...cmon!
[06:21] <khermans_> kshahnjd, check out scp if you like...
[06:23] <kshahnjd> scp?
[06:23] <kshahnjd> i'm using filezilla btw
[06:25] <ajmitch> filezilla supports sftp
[06:27] <qman> yes, the internet would become so much better if ftp died off and sftp/scp took its place
[06:27] <qman> unfortunately that's not yet the case
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[06:30] <qman> so, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on setting up a proxy server for wifi hotspot authentication
[06:31] <qman> suggested software to use, or any guides or anything...right now the wifi is only secured by a 64-bit WEP key, and it would be much better overall to go the web proxy route
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[09:16] <kraut> moin
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[12:16] <cyrenity> hi all
[12:16] <cyrenity> my ubuntu box is behaiving odd
[12:17] <cyrenity> some times my dhcp hangs , some times my vpn hangs
[12:17] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: my best guess would be bad hardware... are you using ECC memory, did you run memtest?
[12:18] <cyrenity> no
[12:19] <pmjdebruijn> try that
[12:22] <cyrenity> its its DDR
[12:22] <cyrenity> i have asuse borad
[12:22] <cyrenity> with hard ware raid
[12:27] <pmjdebruijn> uh
[12:27] <pmjdebruijn> what hardware raid?
[12:27] <pmjdebruijn> onboard?
[12:28] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: ?
[12:28] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: do you mean onboard raid? that's almost never hardware RAID, unless your motherboard cost $500
[12:32] <cyrenity> on 
[12:33] <cyrenity> dedicated hardware  raid
[12:34] <cyrenity> card
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[12:58] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: what one?
[01:05] <cyrenity> 3ware raid cards
[01:05] <cyrenity> did three ware do problems in ubuntu
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[01:14] <cyrenity> pmjdebruijn u there
[01:14] <pmjdebruijn> yes
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[01:44] <cyrenity> wths up
[01:45] <pmjdebruijn> wths up?
[01:47] <cyrenity> hey
[01:47] <cyrenity> plz guide me 
[01:48] <cyrenity> how i check all thses memmory stuffs and raid stuff remotely
[01:48] <cyrenity> my linux box is behaving odd
[01:48] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: you probably need to go local... take a look at your dmesg
[01:48] <cyrenity> vpn drops some times
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[01:50] <cyrenity> see http://pastebin.com/m79fd1b93
[01:51] <pmjdebruijn> you're using software raid
[01:52] <pmjdebruijn> there's something wrong with either software raid and or reiserfs?
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[01:54] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: I thought you had a hardware raid card?
[01:54] <cyrenity> yes
[01:54] <cyrenity> 3ware
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[01:54] <pmjdebruijn> that dmesg isn't complete
[01:55] <pmjdebruijn> and your scsi device, seems to pass the harddrive without RAID
[01:55] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: what RAID card do you have?
[01:56] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: to fix you probably need to go onsite... (at least that's my guess)
[01:57] <cyrenity> hum
[01:57] <cyrenity> but i do there
[01:57] <cyrenity> 3ware raid controller and i did raid 1 on these machines
[02:01] <ScottK> I saw a mention of Debian Bug #411487 on the Debian Python Modules list.  I don't see an Ubuntu bug on this, but someone who uses php, might want to see if we have this problem too. (I don't use php).
[02:01] <ubotu> Debian bug 411487 in libapache2-mod-python "libapache2-mod-python: md5 calculation conflicts with php5-mhash module" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/411487
[02:02] <cyrenity> but how i check things
[02:02] <cyrenity> any idea?
[02:02] <lcdd> cyrenity: the disks are supposed to show up as one single drive in the OS when using hardware raid. . it seems your disk controller is not configured for a raid at the moment
[02:02] <cyrenity> oh
[02:03] <cyrenity> no am seeing it as single disk
[02:03] <cyrenity> raid is working
[02:03] <cyrenity> here prb is 
[02:03] <cyrenity> my machine is behaving odd
[02:03] <cyrenity> its going hangs for some times and again resume
[02:03] <cyrenity> i have no idea what to see n what to not
[02:03] <cyrenity> according to me machine is ok
[02:04] <cyrenity> i wont check raid status
[02:06] <cyrenity> hay did u check my dmesg
[02:06] <cyrenity> i have upload it 
[02:06] <cyrenity> http://pastebin.com/m79fd1b93
[02:16] <cyrenity> hei
[02:16] <cyrenity> if machine reboot for 2-3 times for no reason
[02:16] <cyrenity> whats the cuase
[02:18] <pmjdebruijn> could be a number of things
[02:18] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: if it would be a single disk, your dmesg wouldn't report a WDC harddrive
[02:19] <pmjdebruijn> #
[02:19] <pmjdebruijn> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
[02:19] <pmjdebruijn> #
[02:19] <pmjdebruijn>   Vendor: ATA       Model: WDC WD1200JS-00M  Rev: 02.0
[02:19] <cyrenity> then
[02:19] <pmjdebruijn> that's not hardware RAID
[02:20] <cyrenity> hum
[02:20] <cyrenity> is it showing any error
[02:20] <cyrenity> what this mean
[02:20] <cyrenity> <cyrenity> if machine reboot for 2-3 times for no reason
[02:20] <cyrenity> <cyrenity> whats the cuase
[02:20] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn> could be a number of things
[02:20] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: if it would be a single disk, your dmesg wouldn't report a WDC harddrive
[02:20] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn> #
[02:20] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
[02:20] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn> #
[02:20] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn>   Vendor: ATA       Model: WDC WD1200JS-00M  Rev: 02.0
[02:20] <cyrenity> <cyrenity> then
[02:21] <cyrenity> <pmjdebruijn> that's not hardware RAID
[02:21] <cyrenity> <cyrenity> hum
[02:21] <cyrenity> <cyrenity> is it showing any error
[02:21] <cyrenity> Aug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
[02:21] <cyrenity> Aug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
[02:21] <cyrenity> Aug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 00000000000e4000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
[02:21] <cyrenity> Aug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000007ffb0000 (usable)
[02:21] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: you DON'T NEED TO PASTEBACK
[02:21] <cyrenity> Aug 15 13:26:05 2101FATSRV kernel: [17179569.184000]   BIOS-e820: 000000007ffb0000 - 000000007ffc0000 (ACPI data)
[02:21] <cyrenity> Aug 15 13:26:05 2101FAT
[02:21] <cyrenity> ya sorry
[02:21] <pmjdebruijn> those are not errors
[02:24] <cyrenity> hey
[02:25] <cyrenity> therse lots of msg for kernel in syslogs
[02:25] <cyrenity> am reading syslogs
[02:30] <cyrenity> see this 
[02:30] <cyrenity> http://pastebin.com/m725fc563
[02:30] <cyrenity> is this a error
[02:31] <pmjdebruijn> no, why would you think that?
[02:34] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: please paste an 'lspci' on a pastebin
[02:35] <cyrenity> here http://pastebin.com/m15a7fd5c
[02:35] <cyrenity> actually in morning that machine hangs and reboot 3-4 times
[02:35] <cyrenity> now works fine
[02:35] <cyrenity> my boss is asking reason for that
[02:35] <cyrenity> i wont see any bad thing
[02:39] <pmjdebruijn> oh you have a 3Ware
[02:39] <cyrenity> yes
[02:40] <cyrenity> i told u
[02:40] <cyrenity> previously
[02:40] <pmjdebruijn> but I see this is a desktop machine
[02:40] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: I know, you never answered me what brand it was
[02:40] <cyrenity> its ubuntu ltsp server
[02:40] <cyrenity> i told u
[02:40] <cyrenity> sorry for that
[02:40] <cyrenity> is there any prb
[02:40] <pmjdebruijn> not that I can see
[02:40] <pmjdebruijn> but your dmesg isn't complete
[02:41] <cyrenity> should i send u again
[02:42] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: it's not complete...
[02:42] <pmjdebruijn> cyrenity: stuff scrolled out of the buffer
[02:42] <pmjdebruijn> you could check /var/log/messages
[02:42] <pmjdebruijn> however, I have to run...
[02:47] <cyrenity> ok
[02:47] <cyrenity> thanks
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[04:34] <Drazha> stupid question
[04:35] <Drazha> how do I install sshd on ubuntu server?
[04:35] <pmjdebruijn> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:35] <pmjdebruijn> Drazha: sudo apt-cache search ssh
[04:35] <Drazha> what does apt-cache do again?
[04:36] <infinity> Allows you to search for things, and other fun stuff.
[04:36] <infinity> pmjdebruijn: And there's no reason it needs to be run as root.
[04:37] <pmjdebruijn> oh indeed
[04:37] <pmjdebruijn> maar dat wordt snel gortig duur
[04:42] <jdstrand> dendrobates: I emailed you the updated auth-client-config package and cc'd keescook
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[04:44] <Drazha> another stupid question: how do I list files that have been installed with a package?smth like rpm -ql blabla.rpm ?
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[04:46] <jdstrand> dpkg -L package (man dpkg)
[04:46] <Drazha> thanks
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[04:57] <Drazha> dare I chance another stupid question?
[05:05] <mralphabet> you don't need our permission to ask questions
[05:08] <Drazha> nah, just kidding
[05:08] <Drazha> got fed up of myself being a luser so just googled it
[05:08] <Drazha> thank god there is tonnes of stuff on ubuntu on the net
[05:12] <mralphabet> info about ubuntu on the net? no way! ;)
[05:13] <ewook> huh?
[05:14] <lamont> ewook: I believe that's called "sarcasm"
[05:14] <Drazha> yeah, like, I googled ubuntu and it said: there are zillion entries, please engage tachyon cerebrlan interface for information interface
[05:15] <ewook> lamont: oh shit. fattade inte det.
[05:15] <Drazha> and I was like... no way! what am I? Section 9 agent?
[05:15] <ewook> lamont: oops. I meant oh shit, didn't get it :)
[05:16] <ewook> to many open channels makes my head spinn.
[05:16] <lamont> swiss?
[05:17] <ewook> swede.
[05:19] <lamont> ah, ok.
[05:20] <lamont> figured it was some $LANG muttering, but didn't recognize it
[05:34] <ewook> :)
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[05:58] <jdstrand> keescook: hi-- did you see my email about auth-client-config?
[05:58] <keescook> jdstrand: hi!  yes, thank you.  I will apply it shortly (catching up on email currently)
[05:59] <jdstrand> keescook: so the build daemons build as root?
[05:59] <keescook> jdstrand: nope; likely use fakeroot
[05:59] <keescook> I use "sbuild" to do my builds since that's as close as I can get to the buildd's
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[06:00] <keescook> since I do security updates, I need to have as close an environment to them as possible.  :)
[06:00] <jdstrand> keescook: oh I see, so you tried the build first
[06:00] <keescook> yup
[06:02] <jdstrand> alright-- I only got a portion of the errors, but the fix is the same.  the tests will run as root, non-root, fakeroot, whatever-root!
[06:03] <jdstrand> thanks for taking care of it.  I appreciate it
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[06:12] <keescook> jdstrand: cool; thanks for fixing it.  :)  I've uploaded the new 0.4 now.
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[06:25] <jdstrand> keescook: that was quick!
[06:25] <jdstrand> keescook: much faster than my response to you  :)
[06:28] <keescook> jdstrand: well, you happened to be right there in my email.  :)
[06:29] <keescook> and I had really already done all the review work yesterday; your fix was small, so easy to re-review.  :)
[06:29] <jdstrand> can't get too much smaller-- 3 lines of code in one and 1 line of code in the other
[06:31] <jdstrand> I'm glad it made it in before the freeze.  It has several enhancements that will be particularly useful for use in packaging.  so thanks again
[06:31] <keescook> you bet; I'm glad to have it available.  :)
[06:31] <mralphabet> when is feature freeze? tomorrow?
[06:35] <keescook> mralphabet: yup (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule)
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[06:37] <mathiaz> keescook: about FF and apparmor
[06:37] <mathiaz> keescook: I need to get a new kernel module to test the new userspace apparmor
[06:37] <mathiaz> keescook: so how would this play with FF ?
[06:38] <keescook> mathiaz: it will be trivial to get an exception; we have been blocked on the kernel portion
[06:38] <mathiaz> keescook: ok. That's good new then.
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[08:42] <kshahnjd> how do I properly configure /etc/hosts/ and /etc/network/interfaces for a server located behind a router (which is statically assigned a real IP)
[08:42] <kshahnjd> or a m than i can r would help
[08:43] <mathiaz> kshahnjd: try help.ubuntu.com
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[08:57] <kshahnjd> mathiaz: I couldn't find what I was looking for in that documentation, it looks like it is for the desktop edition
[08:57] <kshahnjd> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ where im going
[08:58] <qman> your hosts and interfaces files will depend entirely on your local network
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[08:58] <qman> what network cards your machine has, what networks it's connected to, and what other hosts there are that you need
[08:59] <kshahnjd> I just want to prepare for a DNS transfer
[08:59] <kshahnjd> I've never done this by myself and not with help for 10 years
[08:59] <kshahnjd> I don't remember BIND, or host files, anything
[09:00] <qman> well, I don't even use my hosts file, it's only got the default information in it
[09:00] <kshahnjd> the server (a laptop incidently) is sitting behind a linksys router which has static external ip
[09:01] <kshahnjd> the router is forwarding all ports to the server
[09:01] <kshahnjd> that's the extent of my config, except for the interfaces file where i told it to take 192.168.1.98
[09:02] <qman> here's the /etc/network/interfaces on my front end box...eth0 is dhcp to my ISP, and the other three are static
[09:02] <qman> http://pastebin.com/m31854106
[09:03] <kshahnjd> similar to mine
[09:03] <qman> I've got an older laptop running a web server, too...they make pretty decent servers on a small scale, an all in one UPS and server
[09:04] <kshahnjd> hehe true
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[09:22] <nealmcb> good - launchpad is getting more flexible - they are beginning to serve as an openid provider.  See e.g. the login for https://shop.canonical.com/
[09:28] <nealmcb> kshah: what services will your server be providing?  Given your routing setup, for some services, setting it up as a dumb dhcp client would seem to work fine with no /etc/hosts or dns work at all.  in other cases it really needs to know what IP it appears to be to the outside world and you'll need to find that out somehow
[09:29] <nealmcb> ...and plug it in to the appropriate config files
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[10:06] <ries> Hey Guys, what version of php is supplied with teh latest version of ubuntu?
[10:09] <dendrobates> ries: php 5.2.1 is in  feisty 
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[10:10] <ries> alright, thanks...
[10:10] <infinity> (5.2.1 + security fixes, of course)
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[10:12] <ries> ofcourse.... 
[10:18] <ries> is an update from 6.x to 7.x easy?
[10:18] <ries> I have a couple of server runnign XEN I need to upgrade
[10:19] <mathiaz> ries: from which version are you trying to upgrade ?
[10:20] <ries> let me check...
[10:20] <mathiaz> ries: 6.06 -> 6.10 and 6.10 -> 7.04 is supported.
[10:21] <ries> I think I have 6.06
[10:21] <ries> how can see that?
[10:21] <ries> cat /etc/debian_version just shows testing7unstable
[10:21] <ries> $ cat debian_version
[10:21] <ries> testing/unstable
[10:22] <mathiaz> ries: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:22] <ries> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 6.10"
[10:22] <ries> looks good then :)
[10:24] <ries> can I just change my sources list and do a dist-upgrade?
[10:25] <infinity> Generally, yeah.  Watch what it plans to do, of course.
[10:25] <nealmcb> ries: versions in ubuntu are timestamps, so 6.10 (october of 2006) is generally as different from 6.06 as it is from 7.04
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[10:26] <ries> nealmcb: Never knew that schema... thanks for teh tip :)
[10:27] <nealmcb> ries: I've heard that dist-upgrade doesn't do a lot of the checks that the update-manager does - but the latter may still only be available as a gui
[10:28] <mathiaz> nealmcb: I think that update-manager has a cli version
[10:28] <nealmcb> mathiaz: in which versions?  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerUpgradeTool
[10:29] <mathiaz> nealmcb: hum.. May be the latest version only.
[10:29] <mathiaz> nealmcb: I had a brief talk with mvo about it during the last sprint
[10:30] <ries> nealmcb: it's a server.... I don't have a gui as far as I know...
[10:30] <ries> I never had problems with dist-upgrade when I was using ubuntu
[10:30] <nealmcb> ries: so I'd advice good backups (as usual) and attention to warning messages.  I wish I understood better what update-manager was doing
[10:30] <ries> sorry... when I was using Debian
[10:31] <ries> I expect Ubuntu will be more or less the same...
[10:31] <ries> I'll make a backup of mu domU, upgrade and see what happens
[10:31] <nealmcb> ries: nor I.  but I heard reports of problems especially when upgrading to edgy
[10:31] <nealmcb> edgy == 6.10
[10:34] <ries> I want to install my server with 7 sicne I see that XEN is included...
[10:35] <ries> then I can get rid of my custom installation...
[10:35] <ries> I hope that my server hardware will be recognized correctly though...
[10:35] <ries> with edgy I had mayor problems with the raid controller
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[11:29] <ksclarke> I've put ubuntu server on a machine and am a bit surprised to discover feisty is using 2.1.3 of wordpress
[11:30] <ksclarke> I'm new to ubuntu but it looks like edgy/dapper had a more recent version of wp but dapper doesn't?
[11:30] <ksclarke> feisty I mean
[11:32] <ksclarke> unless I use the back-ports option
[11:32] <ksclarke> is all this correct or am I misunderstanding something?
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[11:32] <Pumpernickel> Dapper had 2.0.2, feisty has 2.1.3.
[11:33] <ScottK> And 2.2.2 is in Gutsy.
[11:38] <ksclarke> ah, I misread the 2.0.x in the earlier ones for the 2.2
[11:38] <ksclarke> so if I want a secure wordpress I need to get that package from gutsy
[11:39] <ksclarke> the wordpress site makes it seem like 2.2 is a mandatory upgrade
[11:54] <nealmcb> http://wordpress.org/download/legacy/ says they are committed to keeping 2.0 secure for 10 years
[11:54] <nealmcb> ksclarke: ^
[11:55] <nealmcb> sorry... "until 2010"....
[11:55] <ksclarke> yeah, but feisty has 2.1.3
[11:55] <ksclarke> or is it 2.3.1
[11:55] <ksclarke> must be 2.1.3 because latest is 2.2
[12:01] <nealmcb> ksclarke: sounds plausible.  seems like dapper needs a security update also?  to e.g. 2.0.11?  But I haven't looked at the security issues
[12:03] <ksclarke> well, I guess I'll have to figure out how to pull gutsy packages into feisty later tonight
[12:04] <ksclarke> thanks
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