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| === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | ||
| === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 | ||
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| mike_shapiro2001 | hi. am i connected? | 05:30 |
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| Jester45 | nope | 05:31 |
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| Jester45 | o i hope he didnt belive me | 05:33 |
| Ashfire908 | lol | 05:41 |
| Jester45 | some of the people with op powers might get mad at me | 05:45 |
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| s|k | if I have made a change to my iptables how do I make that active | 06:55 |
| s|k | how do I 'reload' the iptables I guess I mean to say | 06:55 |
| Jester45 | how did you change them | 06:55 |
| Jester45 | did you edit the conf or usign the iptables command | 06:56 |
| s|k | iptables command | 06:56 |
| Jester45 | it should be loaded | 06:56 |
| s|k | oh ok | 06:56 |
| s|k | thanks | 06:56 |
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| homanj | is there a front end for network-manager that works in xfce? | 07:08 |
| Jester45 | umm | 07:09 |
| Jester45 | the network manager | 07:09 |
| Jester45 | not sure of the command | 07:09 |
| homanj | Jester45: figured it out. nm-applet | 07:34 |
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| lokadin | hey i'm doing an update of my xubuntu to feisty | 07:45 |
| lokadin | but i have some conflicts and it wont complete the upgrade | 07:46 |
| lokadin | like openoffice.org | 07:46 |
| lokadin | how do i force remove that from the system? | 07:46 |
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| Digit9 | Hello | 07:49 |
| Digit9 | ^.* | 07:49 |
| Digit9 | Oops | 07:50 |
| Digit9 | Hey is anyone in here? I got some questions about Xubuntu | 07:50 |
| Digit9 | Ok, thanks | 07:51 |
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| orvl | heloo | 09:31 |
| orvl | hello | 09:31 |
| orvl | I've got an issue with xubuntu desktop | 09:32 |
| orvl | I started with original ubuntu, installed xubuntu-desktop, and uninstalled gnome | 09:32 |
| orvl | since uninstalling gnome I don't seem to have the ability to use the xfce desktop features | 09:33 |
| orvl | the desktop is just blank | 09:33 |
| orvl | I can't right click on it or anything | 09:33 |
| orvl | HELP!!! | 09:33 |
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| Gabz | xubuntu installer doesn't get past 65% anthy package or something ? | 09:40 |
| orvl | anyone? | 09:41 |
| orvl | what is the program the controls gnome's desktop (not the panel) called? | 09:41 |
| orvl | you guy's r a lot of help | 09:44 |
| orvl | i'm just reinstalling gnome | 09:46 |
| orvl | peace | 09:46 |
| orvl | thanks for nothing | 09:46 |
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| tonyyarusso | Nautilus. Thanks for your enormous patience. | 09:52 |
| Gabz | he waited 5 mins... | 09:57 |
| Gabz | and i found that apparently the xubuntu install really doesn't work on systems with <= 64 bm ram | 09:58 |
| Gabz | vector linux it is then... | 10:01 |
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| wubuntu | morning, guys ... got x loaded on two old desktops, but they don't have ethernet ports for internet... i searched for adapters, and found ethernet to usb units for as low as $6 that claim to be plug and play, does anybody have any experience using these devices to connect? | 12:18 |
| Gabz | isn't easier to find a cheap pci card ? | 12:19 |
| Gabz | and check if the ethernet to usb units are usb 1 or 1.1 or 2.0 | 12:19 |
| wubuntu | i i believe they said compat with both, is that possible? | 12:20 |
| wubuntu | i'll have to look at the page again to be sure of that, i was just wondering if anyone had any direct experience using this kind of adapter ..... | 12:21 |
| Gabz | nah i've never seen one cheaper than a pci card so i've just always gone with a pci card | 12:24 |
| Gabz | if they are usb1.1 they are usb2.0 | 12:24 |
| Gabz | so they can be both. | 12:25 |
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| SettlerX | Hey! I tried to install Xubuntu 5 minutes ago. | 12:46 |
| Pumpernickel | wubuntu: USB network adapters are pretty flaky. A cheap realtek PCI card or similar has a much greater chance of working properly. | 12:47 |
| SettlerX | I went away. When i came back to the computer, i save many errors which were still displayed: "Error ... hd0 .. block code". I pressed "reset" (i was afraid it makes formatting). What did it mean? | 12:48 |
| SettlerX | Athlon XP 2000+, 256 MB RAM, CD-RW, FDD, CD disc written with 32x speed... | 12:49 |
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| SettlerX | Will Xubuntu install correctly on my machine? | 12:50 |
| TheSheep | SettlerX: I'm not sure without more details, but it looks like the installation failed because your hard disk drive has some bad blocks | 12:55 |
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| SettlerX | I wonder if it has bad blocks | 12:59 |
| SettlerX | *I doubt | 12:59 |
| SettlerX | Can this problem be caused because of incorrect SWAP structure? | 12:59 |
| TheSheep | I doubt it | 01:00 |
| SettlerX | Which filesystem for SWAP does Xubuntu use? L-swap or L-swap2? | 01:01 |
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| mrpok_ | hey hey! | 01:12 |
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| Jester45 | !info torrentflux | 02:23 |
| ubotu | torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-7 (feisty), package size 423 kB, installed size 2764 kB | 02:23 |
| Jester45 | !info dapper torrentflux | 02:23 |
| ubotu | Package dapper does not exist in feisty | 02:23 |
| Jester45 | darn | 02:23 |
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| anandanbu | How to create the home folder launcher in the xubuntu 7.04 tray | 03:19 |
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| anandanbu | How to create a launcher for the home folder in Xubuntu 7.04 system tray | 03:20 |
| Jester45 | you want a launcher for the panel | 03:22 |
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| Jester45 | right click add new item laucher | 03:22 |
| anandanbu | yeah i have done that | 03:22 |
| Jester45 | ok edit it | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | name = home | 03:23 |
| anandanbu | what to give in the command field | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | description = what ever you want | 03:23 |
| anandanbu | ok | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | picture is user-home.png | 03:23 |
| Jester45 | command is thunar | 03:24 |
| anandanbu | thanks for the help | 03:24 |
| anandanbu | and one more thing | 03:24 |
| anandanbu | the separator or spacing stands in the middle of the tray | 03:25 |
| anandanbu | iam not able to move it to anyside | 03:25 |
| Jester45 | ? | 03:25 |
| Jester45 | remove it | 03:25 |
| vidd | anandanbu, i think that is the systray | 03:27 |
| anandanbu | but if i remove all the icons are brought together | 03:27 |
| anandanbu | like the logout and volume control | 03:27 |
| anandanbu | is there any option to get default or the original panel in xubuntu that was there by default | 03:28 |
| Jester45 | yea | 03:29 |
| Jester45 | remove all your settings | 03:29 |
| anandanbu | jester45:what settings | 03:29 |
| Jester45 | the space keeps the icons apart if you remove the spacer they go together | 03:29 |
| Jester45 | if you want a panel that is full width you have to customize the panel so that the when the icons move together they srink the size of the panel | 03:30 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: is there anyway to obtain the default that was there on installation | 03:30 |
| Jester45 | yea | 03:30 |
| Jester45 | remove your settings | 03:30 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: please tell me what settings | 03:31 |
| zials | I'm guessing the panel settings... ~./.config/xfce4/panel | 03:32 |
| anandanbu | zials: How to remove that | 03:33 |
| zials | well, go to that folder | 03:33 |
| zials | and... remove panels.xml | 03:33 |
| anandanbu | zials: where is that folder located | 03:33 |
| Jester45 | remove ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml | 03:33 |
| vidd | or remove the entire folder....logout...log-in | 03:33 |
| Jester45 | or kill the panel and start it | 03:34 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: i have done that and it gives me only the modified panel | 03:34 |
| Jester45 | you have to restart it | 03:35 |
| Jester45 | my loging out and back in | 03:35 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: How to do that | 03:35 |
| Jester45 | rebooting or killing the process | 03:35 |
| Jester45 | you dont know how to logout? | 03:35 |
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| whyking_ | hi | 03:35 |
| Jester45 | hi | 03:35 |
| whyking_ | why is there no xfce4-timer plugin available? | 03:35 |
| Jester45 | go to the menu at the bottom is quit click on that then click on logout then logback in | 03:36 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: I know that but which of the process should i kill and am i suppose to remove the panel.xml | 03:36 |
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| Jester45 | anandanbu, you can run rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml | 03:36 |
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| anandanbu | Jester45: Now im not able to create any panel | 03:40 |
| Jester45 | press alt + F2 | 03:40 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: while clicking on the panel in settings manager nothing is displayed | 03:40 |
| Jester45 | type xfce4-panel and click run | 03:40 |
| anandanbu | ok | 03:40 |
| anandanbu | thanks the panels are fine and is working well | 03:41 |
| Jester45 | so what do you need | 03:41 |
| anandanbu | Jester45: still the icons are cluttered a bit without the separator or spacing | 03:42 |
| Jester45 | then add one | 03:42 |
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| Ben_Cs | hello | 05:11 |
| Jester45 | hi | 05:12 |
| Ben_Cs | when i click on sound controll button, it's empty. in sound mixer settings i chose my sound card but still everything else is empty. what package am i missing? | 05:12 |
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| Jester45 | do you get sound? | 05:13 |
| Ben_Cs | cause when i had ubuntu with xfce i had everything set thanks to gnome | 05:13 |
| Jester45 | gnome doesnt help it just covers the problem | 05:13 |
| Ben_Cs | gnome handled the problem | 05:14 |
| Ben_Cs | hmmm. wait. installing software for playing media | 05:15 |
| Jester45 | yea but you didnt learn what was arong | 05:15 |
| Ben_Cs | no, i didn't | 05:15 |
| Ben_Cs | wow - weird. i installed vlc and suddenly all volume controlls appeared | 05:16 |
| Ben_Cs | please explain | 05:17 |
| Ben_Cs | Jester45: do you know y? | 05:18 |
| Jester45 | probly a setup script that vlc does | 05:18 |
| Ben_Cs | cool | 05:19 |
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| Ben_Cs | another thing: when i changed resolution from 1280x1024 to 1024x768, the font size of icons etc. didn't change. how do i fix it? | 05:19 |
| Jester45 | change the font size | 05:20 |
| Jester45 | from say 9 to 10 or 11 | 05:20 |
| Ben_Cs | where? | 05:20 |
| Jester45 | menu -> settings -> user interface | 05:21 |
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| Jester45 | hey maxamillion | 05:21 |
| maxamillion | hiya Jester45 | 05:22 |
| maxamillion | Jester45: you see that ubuntu's servers got hacked? | 05:22 |
| Jester45 | really | 05:22 |
| maxamillion | Jester45: http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/08/15/1341224.shtml | 05:22 |
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| Jester45 | would that be ubuntu's as ubuntu.com or just servers running the distro | 05:23 |
| maxamillion | Jester45: i believe ubuntu.com | 05:24 |
| Jester45 | yep | 05:25 |
| Jester45 | 5 of their 8 servers | 05:26 |
| maxamillion | heh ... | 05:28 |
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| Ben_Cs | i copied an icon theme to /usr/share/themes but can't see it in User Interface Settings. please help | 05:30 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: did you unpack it? | 05:31 |
| Ben_Cs | yes | 05:31 |
| pleia2 | they were loco team servers, the server admins weren't keeping them patched and there was all sorts of crazy insecure php running on them :\ | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: does it contain a gtkrc file? | 05:31 |
| Ben_Cs | no. it has .theme file | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | pleia2: ther is no such thing as secure php :) | 05:31 |
| pleia2 | TheSheep: + apps :) | 05:32 |
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| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: then it's not a gtk theme and cannot be used by xfce | 05:32 |
| Ben_Cs | ok | 05:32 |
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| Ben_Cs | TheSheep: can it work in xfce: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38835 ??? | 05:35 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: that's an icon set, not a theme | 05:38 |
| TheSheep | Ben_Cs: put it into ~/.icons/ | 05:38 |
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| j1mc | hi TheSheep | 05:42 |
| j1mc | how are things? | 05:42 |
| Ben_Cs | ok. but if i put it in /usr/share/themes then User Interface Settings will see it? | 05:42 |
| Ben_Cs | oh. i see | 05:42 |
| TheSheep | j1mc: weird | 05:46 |
| j1mc | things are weird, TheSheep ? | 05:50 |
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| Ben_Cs | i installed k3b. when i write in terminal: k3b , i get: trying to create local folder /home/benny/.kde/share: Permission denied | 06:20 |
| Ben_Cs | why is that? | 06:20 |
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| Ben_Cs | same thing with ktorrent | 06:22 |
| maxamillion | Ben_Cs: sudo chmod +arw /home/benny/.kde/share/ | 06:24 |
| maxamillion | Ben_Cs: that command *should* fix the issue | 06:24 |
| BFTD | is it possible to make it so that nothing can take over the desktop, like some things while loading have they're logo and you can't minimize it or anything | 06:24 |
| j1mc | maxamillion: would 'sudo chmod -hR /home/benny' work? | 06:25 |
| j1mc | maxamillion: would 'sudo chmod -hR benny:benny /home/benny' work? | 06:25 |
| j1mc | ^^ that's what i meant | 06:25 |
| Ben_Cs | max: still permision denied. it's like k3b has no permitions? | 06:25 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: uh ... yeah, actually i believe that would and i think your solution is a little more elegant | 06:25 |
| maxamillion | j1mc: mine is kinda "brute force" | 06:26 |
| Ben_Cs | i did:sudo chmod 777 /home/benny/.kde/share/ | 06:26 |
| maxamillion | brb | 06:26 |
| j1mc | Ben_Cs: try my command. | 06:26 |
| Ben_Cs | ok | 06:29 |
| Ben_Cs | thanks | 06:29 |
| Ben_Cs | it finr | 06:30 |
| Ben_Cs | fine | 06:30 |
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| Ben_Cs | when i used gnome it assumed i own the files that xfce doesn't assume i own them. is it usual? | 06:34 |
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| SmileyDan | can anyone help with a xubuntu desktop/window manager problem? | 06:38 |
| sulle_ | Maybe SmileyDan =) | 06:38 |
| sulle_ | What ir your problem? | 06:38 |
| sulle_ | *is | 06:38 |
| SmileyDan | just seeing if anyone is awake ;) | 06:38 |
| sulle_ | oh :P | 06:38 |
| sulle_ | 18:39 here | 06:38 |
| SmileyDan | basically, the panel does not show and all title bars cannot be seen | 06:38 |
| SmileyDan | i cannot alt-tab | 06:39 |
| sulle_ | right click on ur desktop. | 06:39 |
| sulle_ | I *Allow Xfce to manage the desktop.* ON ? | 06:39 |
| sulle_ | is | 06:39 |
| SmileyDan | can't right click, that is to say, no context menu shows | 06:39 |
| sulle_ | ok open a terminal | 06:39 |
| SmileyDan | y | 06:39 |
| sulle_ | write xfce-setting-show | 06:40 |
| SmileyDan | ok | 06:40 |
| SmileyDan | got the settings | 06:40 |
| sulle_ | Okok | 06:40 |
| sulle_ | hmm | 06:41 |
| SmileyDan | if i press the window manager button it says my window manager is unknown | 06:41 |
| sulle_ | hmm | 06:42 |
| sulle_ | give me a sec SmileyDan i am reading on the problem | 06:43 |
| Ben_Cs | question: is it better to use gtk/gnome apps or kde apps with xfce? | 06:43 |
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| === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | ||
| === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 | ||
| (TheSheep/#xubuntu) kstr: never alter mtab by yourself | 08:27 | |
| (TheSheep/#xubuntu) champloo: no, there is an option for cron | 08:27 | |
| (kstr/#xubuntu) in mtab, it says /dev/sda1 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 | 08:28 | |
| kstr | as well as /dev/sda1 /EERSTESCHIJF ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 | 08:28 |
| kstr | is that normal? | 08:28 |
| champloo | I am just adding lines to the /etc/crontab file | 08:28 |
| champloo | it works with simple commands like MKDIR | 08:29 |
| champloo | but not with this scripts | 08:29 |
| champloo | but the scrips work fine if I execute them from shell | 08:29 |
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| Ben_Cs | hi | 08:47 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: hi | 08:48 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: what's the problem? | 08:48 |
| Ben_Cs | for some reason almost none of gnome programs work in xubuntu. i.e : when i run gedit a windows opens , with nothing in it, as if it's stuck in middle of loading. must i install gnome for them to work? | 08:49 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: nope, should be working | 08:49 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: it's strange that they don't work | 08:49 |
| Ben_Cs | hyper_ch: nevertheles it aint working | 08:49 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: best is to run the from the shell to see where the problem is | 08:49 |
| champloo | =/ I dont know | 08:49 |
| champloo | it just doesnt happend anything | 08:50 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: what are you trying to do? | 08:50 |
| champloo | the script startthe transmission torrent client | 08:50 |
| champloo | through transmission-gtk command | 08:50 |
| champloo | and the script runs fine if I call it from the shell | 08:50 |
| Ben_Cs | hyper_ch: when i shell: gedit , it gets stuck with no result whatsoever | 08:50 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: how do you do that from the terminal? | 08:50 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: no output? nothing? | 08:51 |
| Ben_Cs | nada | 08:51 |
| champloo | /home/champloo/scripts/transmission_start.sh | 08:51 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: now that is strange | 08:51 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: can you pastebin the script? | 08:51 |
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| champloo | #!/bin/bash | 08:52 |
| champloo | transmission-gtk | 08:52 |
| hyper_ch | !pastbin | champloo | 08:52 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 08:52 |
| hyper_ch | !pasetbin | champloo | 08:52 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 08:52 |
| hyper_ch | !pastebin | champloo | 08:52 |
| ubotu | champloo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 08:52 |
| hyper_ch | ups ;) | 08:53 |
| Ben_Cs | hyper_ch: i'm installing gnome. will see if it fixes the problem | 08:53 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: if you install gnome or kde appz it should also fetch the according libraries... I fail to see why it's not working for you :( | 08:53 |
| champloo | what is pastbin? | 08:53 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: and that you have no output whatsoever | 08:54 |
| hyper_ch | !pastebin | champloo | 08:54 |
| ubotu | champloo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 08:54 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: visit that ;) | 08:54 |
| Ben_Cs | hyper_ch: when i had Ubuntu (with gnome that is) and installed xubuntu-desktop package, everything was fine, except that gnome was a bit faster then xfce | 08:54 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: well, I can run gnome and kde appz just fine (I run a lot of kde appz ^^) | 08:55 |
| hyper_ch | Ben_Cs: strange it's not working for you... | 08:55 |
| Ben_Cs | yeh.strange | 08:56 |
| champloo | but what do you want me to past there? the script only has one line | 08:56 |
| champloo | its "transmission-gtk" | 08:56 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: that's all? why do you put that in a script file then? and how do you try to run that script? | 08:56 |
| champloo | i did the script beacuse the command doesnt run on crontab | 08:57 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: it should | 08:57 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: how was your entry? | 08:57 |
| champloo | to run the script from sheel I just type "/home/champloo/scripts/transmission_start.sh" | 08:57 |
| champloo | and it starts the program | 08:58 |
| hyper_ch | I mean how was you crontab entry? | 08:58 |
| champloo | 43 * * * * /home/mugen/scripts/transmission_start.sh | 08:58 |
| hyper_ch | why not 43 * * * * transmission-gtk | 08:59 |
| hyper_ch | that should be working just fine | 08:59 |
| champloo | yep | 08:59 |
| champloo | but it doesnt that is why i made the script.. | 08:59 |
| champloo | shit | 09:00 |
| champloo | i dont understant | 09:00 |
| champloo | could it have something to do with the DISPLAY var? | 09:00 |
| hyper_ch | champloo: no clue | 09:01 |
| hyper_ch | I never put any graphical app in a cron | 09:01 |
| champloo | ok | 09:01 |
| champloo | that is also why i thought the script would help | 09:02 |
| champloo | thanks a lot for the help anyway | 09:02 |
| hyper_ch | what does transmission do? | 09:03 |
| champloo | its a torrent client | 09:04 |
| champloo | like azureus | 09:04 |
| champloo | but lighter | 09:04 |
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| Ben_Cs | what are de apps? | 09:05 |
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| kstr | does anyone know ik it is enough just to edit the menu.lst to alter the GRUB menu ? | 09:08 |
| kstr | ik=if | 09:09 |
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| TheSheep | kstr: yes | 09:10 |
| kstr | ok tnx | 09:10 |
| TheSheep | kstr: in case of trouble, you can even edit it on boot, by pressing 'e' (but it's not saved) | 09:10 |
| j1mc | the new artwork for gutsy should be hitting today for anyone who is running gutsy and does an update to their system. | 09:11 |
| j1mc | it looks pretty good | 09:11 |
| j1mc | better than pretty good, actually | 09:11 |
| TheSheep | j1mc: yes, it's improving every release | 09:16 |
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| hyper_ch | boring | 10:05 |
| cellofellow | maybe Xubuntu is so stable no one really needs help. | 10:05 |
| j1mc | haha | 10:05 |
| j1mc | i wish | 10:05 |
| hyper_ch | hehhe | 10:05 |
| j1mc | more like... maybe no one is using it today. :( | 10:06 |
| === j1mc cries | ||
| j1mc | :) | 10:06 |
| hyper_ch | I'm using it | 10:06 |
| hyper_ch | and a lot of kde appz in it | 10:06 |
| j1mc | +1 for hyper_ch | 10:06 |
| j1mc | heh... why's that? | 10:06 |
| === cellofellow avoids kde apps. | ||
| hyper_ch | because I like a them ;) | 10:06 |
| hyper_ch | ktorrent, kate, konqueror,k3b, amarok, kontact | 10:07 |
| cellofellow | I do wish there was a GTK office suite with the feature set of KOffice. OpenOffice to slow and Abiword doesn't cut it often. | 10:07 |
| hyper_ch | OOo isn't slow ;) | 10:07 |
| cellofellow | All of those are great apps ('cept I never bothered with Kontact). | 10:07 |
| cellofellow | OOo is on some computers. | 10:08 |
| hyper_ch | cellofellow: not on mine :) | 10:08 |
| cellofellow | I wonder if KOffice on Xubuntu would slow it up (and in particular fatten up) much. | 10:08 |
| cellofellow | Oh, OOo runs fine, it just takes like 5 minutes to turn on. | 10:08 |
| === vidd uses xubuntu on 3 laptops and a desktop | ||
| vidd | and ubuntu-minimal on 3 servers | 10:09 |
| vidd | =] | 10:09 |
| === cellofellow uses Xubuntu on two desktops, Ubuntu-minimal with Fluxbox on another, and Debian Etch on a server. | ||
| cellofellow | And I do like my DreamLinux LiveCD. Remastering will be fun. | 10:11 |
| j1mc | i have foresight linux on my desktop, and xubuntu on my laptop. | 10:11 |
| j1mc | the conary package manager is pretty neat. | 10:11 |
| cellofellow | aptitude is all I need. | 10:11 |
| j1mc | with conary you can do rollbacks. | 10:12 |
| cellofellow | oh, huh | 10:12 |
| j1mc | i don't know too much about it right now, though. | 10:13 |
| j1mc | conary was written by a bunch of guys who left redhat. | 10:13 |
| j1mc | but i'll stop talking about it now. this is a xubuntu channel. :) | 10:14 |
| cellofellow | does it still use RPM packages? | 10:14 |
| Jester45 | j1mc, thats an window incarnation just watch what your doing and you shouldnt need roll backs | 10:15 |
| === cellofellow never has found them useful. | ||
| j1mc | no, it doesn't use rpms | 10:20 |
| Jester45 | well thats good | 10:20 |
| j1mc | Jester45: but what if a new package or set of packages screws things up? | 10:20 |
| Jester45 | then you remove it | 10:20 |
| j1mc | but what if it's a new version of the package you need? i know you can pin a certain package version with apt, but this does it more elegantly. | 10:21 |
| === Jester45 will stick to apt-get | ||
| hyper_ch | why not aptitude? | 10:24 |
| hyper_ch | what are roll backs needed for? | 10:25 |
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| whyking_ | hi | 10:26 |
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| whyking_ | when I restart from suspend to hd my screen goes bananas and says "freq. out of sync", after it has loaded the stuff.. I have a dual monitor setup with a nvidia card, is this common? | 10:26 |
| hyper_ch | whyking_: hi | 10:26 |
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| colossus73 | hi | 11:04 |
| colossus73 | after some updates (I don't remember which ones) hibernate and stand by do not work anymore | 11:05 |
| colossus73 | I really don't know where to look for errors, malfunctions etc etc | 11:05 |
| colossus73 | can anyone help? | 11:05 |
| hyper_ch | no clue, never use either one | 11:06 |
| colossus73 | is there a log file somewhere at least? | 11:07 |
| TheSheep | colossus73: in /var/log | 11:07 |
| TheSheep | colossus73: not sure which one to look at first though | 11:07 |
| colossus73 | there are quite a lot | 11:08 |
| cellofellow | colossus73: Hibernate and standby don't work at all for me cause I use the binary nvidia drivers. | 11:08 |
| colossus73 | gt[libgtkhtml-2.11.0] $ grep hybernate /var/log/* | 11:08 |
| colossus73 | gt[libgtkhtml-2.11.0] $ | 11:08 |
| cellofellow | Unless there is some way to use that. | 11:08 |
| colossus73 | cellofellow: ah ! It could be! You are right! | 11:08 |
| cellofellow | colossus73: hibernate, not hybernate | 11:09 |
| colossus73 | I don't remember if they worked before installing | 11:09 |
| colossus73 | oops thank you | 11:09 |
| cellofellow | actually, they do work, they just don't resume. | 11:09 |
| colossus73 | yes the same happens to me | 11:09 |
| cellofellow | that's the binary drivers | 11:09 |
| colossus73 | if i do stand-by instead it appears the Xscreensaver login window | 11:09 |
| cellofellow | well, huh | 11:09 |
| colossus73 | and after typing the password it says "Checking" forever and eerthing is bloked | 11:10 |
| cellofellow | you could always use a tty to fix it. | 11:10 |
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| Rynux9 | hmm | 11:12 |
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| Rynux9 | there we go :) | 11:15 |
| kaos_nk | so desne | 11:15 |
| cellofellow | huh? | 11:15 |
| Rynux9 | messed up somehow in join this channel using pidgin | 11:16 |
| Rynux9 | got to ask this question, has a flash drive ported version of Xubuntu been made yet? | 11:18 |
| cellofellow | There's one of Ubuntu. If there isn't an official Xubuntu one, then it should be easy to set up. | 11:19 |
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| Jester45 | yea remove everything with gnome in the name including dependicies then install xubuntu-desktop or maybe modify the version in the beginning | 11:28 |
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| kalikiana | hyper_ch, Hm? | 12:04 |
| kalikiana | I assume that DCC to me was by accident? | 12:04 |
| hyper_ch | just clicked wrongly :) wanted to make vlc larger and selected the file in konqueror and dragged it to your name :) | 12:04 |
| kalikiana | hyper_ch, I have no idea how you managed to do that :P | 12:07 |
| hyper_ch | konqueror & konversation | 12:08 |
| hyper_ch | drag'n'drop and dcc is being initiated | 12:08 |
| kalikiana | Ah, ok. | 12:11 |
| hyper_ch | ^^ | 12:11 |
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