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=== Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options:  http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get
=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007
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[05:30] <mike_shapiro2001> hi.  am i connected?
[05:31] <Jester45> nope
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[05:33] <Jester45> o i hope he didnt belive me
[05:41] <Ashfire908> lol
[05:45] <Jester45> some of the people with op powers might get mad at me
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[06:55] <s|k> if I have made a change to my iptables how do I make that active
[06:55] <s|k> how do I 'reload' the iptables I guess I mean to say
[06:55] <Jester45> how did you change them
[06:56] <Jester45> did you edit the conf or usign the iptables command
[06:56] <s|k> iptables command
[06:56] <Jester45> it should be loaded
[06:56] <s|k> oh ok
[06:56] <s|k> thanks
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[07:08] <homanj> is there a front end for network-manager that works in xfce?
[07:09] <Jester45> umm
[07:09] <Jester45> the network manager
[07:09] <Jester45> not sure of the command
[07:34] <homanj> Jester45: figured it out. nm-applet
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[07:45] <lokadin> hey i'm doing an update of my xubuntu to feisty
[07:46] <lokadin> but i have some conflicts and it wont complete the upgrade
[07:46] <lokadin> like openoffice.org
[07:46] <lokadin> how do i force remove that from the system?
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[07:49] <Digit9> Hello
[07:49] <Digit9> ^.*
[07:50] <Digit9> Oops
[07:50] <Digit9> Hey is anyone in here? I got some questions about Xubuntu
[07:51] <Digit9> Ok, thanks
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[09:31] <orvl> heloo
[09:31] <orvl> hello
[09:32] <orvl> I've got an issue with xubuntu desktop
[09:32] <orvl> I started with original ubuntu, installed xubuntu-desktop, and uninstalled gnome
[09:33] <orvl> since uninstalling gnome I don't seem to have the ability to use the xfce desktop features
[09:33] <orvl> the desktop is just blank
[09:33] <orvl> I can't right click on it or anything
[09:33] <orvl> HELP!!!
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[09:40] <Gabz> xubuntu installer doesn't get past 65% anthy package or something ?
[09:41] <orvl> anyone?
[09:41] <orvl> what is the program the controls gnome's desktop (not the panel) called?
[09:44] <orvl> you guy's r a lot of help
[09:46] <orvl> i'm just reinstalling gnome
[09:46] <orvl> peace
[09:46] <orvl> thanks for nothing
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[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Nautilus.  Thanks for your enormous patience.
[09:57] <Gabz> he waited 5 mins...
[09:58] <Gabz> and i found that apparently the xubuntu install really doesn't work on systems with <= 64 bm ram
[10:01] <Gabz> vector linux it is then...
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[12:18] <wubuntu> morning, guys ... got x loaded on two old desktops, but they don't have ethernet ports for internet... i searched for adapters, and found ethernet to usb units for as low as $6 that claim to be plug and play, does anybody have any experience using these devices to connect?
[12:19] <Gabz> isn't easier to find a cheap pci card ?
[12:19] <Gabz> and check if the ethernet to usb units are usb 1 or 1.1 or 2.0
[12:20] <wubuntu> i i believe they said compat with both, is that possible?
[12:21] <wubuntu> i'll have to look at the page again to be sure of that, i was just wondering if anyone had any direct experience using this kind of adapter .....
[12:24] <Gabz> nah i've never seen one cheaper than a pci card so i've just always gone with a pci card
[12:24] <Gabz> if they are usb1.1 they are usb2.0
[12:25] <Gabz> so they can be both.
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[12:46] <SettlerX> Hey! I tried to install Xubuntu 5 minutes ago.
[12:47] <Pumpernickel> wubuntu: USB network adapters are pretty flaky.  A cheap realtek PCI card or similar has a much greater chance of working properly.
[12:48] <SettlerX> I went away. When i came back to the computer, i save many errors which were still displayed: "Error ... hd0 .. block code". I pressed "reset" (i was afraid it makes formatting). What did it mean?
[12:49] <SettlerX> Athlon XP 2000+, 256 MB RAM, CD-RW, FDD, CD disc written with 32x speed...
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[12:50] <SettlerX> Will Xubuntu install correctly on my machine?
[12:55] <TheSheep> SettlerX: I'm not sure without more details, but it looks like the installation failed because your hard disk drive has some bad blocks
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[12:59] <SettlerX> I wonder if it has bad blocks
[12:59] <SettlerX> *I doubt
[12:59] <SettlerX> Can this problem be caused because of incorrect SWAP structure?
[01:00] <TheSheep> I doubt it
[01:01] <SettlerX> Which filesystem for SWAP does Xubuntu use? L-swap or L-swap2?
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[01:12] <mrpok_> hey hey!
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[02:23] <Jester45> !info torrentflux
[02:23] <ubotu> torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-7 (feisty), package size 423 kB, installed size 2764 kB
[02:23] <Jester45> !info dapper torrentflux
[02:23] <ubotu> Package dapper does not exist in feisty
[02:23] <Jester45> darn
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[03:19] <anandanbu> How to create the home folder launcher in the xubuntu 7.04 tray
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[03:20] <anandanbu> How to create a launcher for the home folder in Xubuntu 7.04 system tray
[03:22] <Jester45> you want a launcher for the panel
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[03:22] <Jester45> right click add new item laucher
[03:22] <anandanbu> yeah i have done that
[03:23] <Jester45> ok edit it
[03:23] <Jester45> name = home
[03:23] <anandanbu> what to give in the command field
[03:23] <Jester45> description = what ever you want
[03:23] <anandanbu> ok
[03:23] <Jester45> picture is user-home.png
[03:24] <Jester45> command is thunar
[03:24] <anandanbu> thanks for the help
[03:24] <anandanbu> and one more thing
[03:25] <anandanbu> the separator or spacing stands in the middle of the tray
[03:25] <anandanbu> iam not able to move it to anyside
[03:25] <Jester45> ?
[03:25] <Jester45> remove it
[03:27] <vidd> anandanbu, i think that is the systray
[03:27] <anandanbu> but if i remove all the icons are brought together
[03:27] <anandanbu> like the logout and volume control
[03:28] <anandanbu> is there any option to get default or the original panel in xubuntu that was there by default
[03:29] <Jester45> yea
[03:29] <Jester45> remove all your settings
[03:29] <anandanbu> jester45:what settings
[03:29] <Jester45> the space keeps the icons apart if you remove the spacer they go together
[03:30] <Jester45> if you want a panel that is full width you have to customize the panel so that the when the icons move together they srink the size of the panel
[03:30] <anandanbu> Jester45: is there anyway to obtain the default that was there on installation
[03:30] <Jester45> yea
[03:30] <Jester45> remove your settings
[03:31] <anandanbu> Jester45: please tell me what settings
[03:32] <zials> I'm guessing the panel settings... ~./.config/xfce4/panel
[03:33] <anandanbu> zials: How to remove that
[03:33] <zials> well, go to that folder
[03:33] <zials> and... remove panels.xml
[03:33] <anandanbu> zials: where is that folder located
[03:33] <Jester45> remove ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml
[03:33] <vidd> or remove the entire folder....logout...log-in
[03:34] <Jester45> or kill the panel and start it
[03:34] <anandanbu> Jester45: i have done that and it gives me only the modified panel
[03:35] <Jester45> you have to restart it
[03:35] <Jester45> my loging out and back in
[03:35] <anandanbu> Jester45: How to do that
[03:35] <Jester45> rebooting or killing the process
[03:35] <Jester45> you dont know how to logout?
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[03:35] <whyking_> hi
[03:35] <Jester45> hi
[03:35] <whyking_> why is there no xfce4-timer plugin available?
[03:36] <Jester45> go to the menu at the bottom is quit click on that then click on logout then logback in
[03:36] <anandanbu> Jester45: I know that but which of the process should i kill and am i suppose to remove the panel.xml
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[03:36] <Jester45> anandanbu, you can run rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel/panels.xml
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[03:40] <anandanbu> Jester45: Now im not able to create any panel
[03:40] <Jester45> press alt + F2
[03:40] <anandanbu> Jester45: while clicking on the panel in settings manager nothing is displayed
[03:40] <Jester45> type xfce4-panel and click run
[03:40] <anandanbu> ok
[03:41] <anandanbu> thanks the panels are fine and is working well
[03:41] <Jester45> so what do you need
[03:42] <anandanbu> Jester45: still the icons are cluttered a bit without the separator or spacing
[03:42] <Jester45> then add one
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[05:11] <Ben_Cs> hello
[05:12] <Jester45> hi
[05:12] <Ben_Cs> when i click on sound controll button, it's empty. in sound mixer settings i chose my sound card but still everything else is empty. what package am i missing?
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[05:13] <Jester45> do you get sound?
[05:13] <Ben_Cs> cause when i had ubuntu with xfce i had everything set thanks to gnome
[05:13] <Jester45> gnome doesnt help it just covers the problem
[05:14] <Ben_Cs> gnome handled the problem
[05:15] <Ben_Cs> hmmm. wait. installing software for playing media
[05:15] <Jester45> yea but you didnt learn what was arong
[05:15] <Ben_Cs> no, i didn't
[05:16] <Ben_Cs> wow - weird. i installed vlc and suddenly all volume controlls appeared
[05:17] <Ben_Cs> please explain
[05:18] <Ben_Cs> Jester45: do you know y?
[05:18] <Jester45> probly a setup script that vlc does
[05:19] <Ben_Cs> cool
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[05:19] <Ben_Cs> another thing: when i changed resolution from 1280x1024 to 1024x768, the font size of icons etc. didn't change. how do i fix it?
[05:20] <Jester45> change the font size
[05:20] <Jester45> from say 9 to 10 or 11
[05:20] <Ben_Cs> where?
[05:21] <Jester45> menu -> settings -> user interface
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[05:21] <Jester45> hey maxamillion
[05:22] <maxamillion> hiya Jester45
[05:22] <maxamillion> Jester45: you see that ubuntu's servers got hacked?
[05:22] <Jester45> really
[05:22] <maxamillion> Jester45: http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/08/15/1341224.shtml
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[05:23] <Jester45> would that be ubuntu's as ubuntu.com or just servers running the distro
[05:24] <maxamillion> Jester45: i believe ubuntu.com
[05:25] <Jester45> yep
[05:26] <Jester45> 5 of their 8 servers
[05:28] <maxamillion> heh ...
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[05:30] <Ben_Cs> i copied an icon theme to /usr/share/themes but can't see it in User Interface Settings. please help
[05:31] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: did you unpack it?
[05:31] <Ben_Cs> yes
[05:31] <pleia2> they were loco team servers, the server admins weren't keeping them patched and there was all sorts of crazy insecure php running on them :\
[05:31] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: does it contain a gtkrc file?
[05:31] <Ben_Cs> no. it has .theme file
[05:31] <TheSheep> pleia2: ther is no such thing as secure php :)
[05:32] <pleia2> TheSheep: + apps :)
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[05:32] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: then it's not a gtk theme and cannot be used by xfce
[05:32] <Ben_Cs> ok
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[05:35] <Ben_Cs> TheSheep: can it work in xfce: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38835   ???
[05:38] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: that's an icon set, not a theme
[05:38] <TheSheep> Ben_Cs: put it into ~/.icons/
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[05:42] <j1mc> hi TheSheep
[05:42] <j1mc> how are things?
[05:42] <Ben_Cs> ok. but if i put it in /usr/share/themes then User Interface Settings will see it?
[05:42] <Ben_Cs> oh. i see
[05:46] <TheSheep> j1mc: weird
[05:50] <j1mc> things are weird, TheSheep ?
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[06:20] <Ben_Cs> i installed k3b. when i write in terminal: k3b  , i get: trying to create local folder /home/benny/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:20] <Ben_Cs> why is that?
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[06:22] <Ben_Cs> same thing with ktorrent
[06:24] <maxamillion> Ben_Cs: sudo chmod +arw /home/benny/.kde/share/
[06:24] <maxamillion> Ben_Cs: that command *should* fix the issue
[06:24] <BFTD> is it possible to make it so that nothing can take over the desktop, like some things while loading have they're logo and you can't minimize it or anything
[06:25] <j1mc> maxamillion: would 'sudo chmod -hR /home/benny' work?
[06:25] <j1mc> maxamillion: would 'sudo chmod -hR benny:benny /home/benny' work?
[06:25] <j1mc> ^^ that's what i meant
[06:25] <Ben_Cs> max: still permision denied. it's like k3b has no permitions?
[06:25] <maxamillion> j1mc: uh ... yeah, actually i believe that would and i think your solution is a little more elegant
[06:26] <maxamillion> j1mc: mine is kinda "brute force"
[06:26] <Ben_Cs> i did:sudo chmod 777 /home/benny/.kde/share/
[06:26] <maxamillion> brb
[06:26] <j1mc> Ben_Cs: try my command.
[06:29] <Ben_Cs> ok
[06:29] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[06:30] <Ben_Cs> it finr
[06:30] <Ben_Cs> fine
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[06:34] <Ben_Cs> when i used gnome it assumed i own the files that xfce doesn't assume i own them. is it usual?
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[06:38] <SmileyDan> can anyone help with a xubuntu desktop/window manager problem?
[06:38] <sulle_> Maybe SmileyDan =)
[06:38] <sulle_> What ir your problem?
[06:38] <sulle_> *is
[06:38] <SmileyDan> just seeing if anyone is awake ;)
[06:38] <sulle_> oh :P
[06:38] <sulle_> 18:39 here
[06:38] <SmileyDan> basically, the panel does not show and all title bars cannot be seen
[06:39] <SmileyDan> i cannot alt-tab
[06:39] <sulle_> right click on ur desktop.
[06:39] <sulle_> I *Allow Xfce to manage the desktop.* ON ?
[06:39] <sulle_> is
[06:39] <SmileyDan> can't right click, that is to say, no context menu shows
[06:39] <sulle_> ok open a terminal
[06:39] <SmileyDan> y
[06:40] <sulle_> write xfce-setting-show
[06:40] <SmileyDan> ok
[06:40] <SmileyDan> got the settings
[06:40] <sulle_> Okok
[06:41] <sulle_> hmm
[06:41] <SmileyDan> if i press the window manager button it says my window manager is unknown
[06:42] <sulle_> hmm
[06:43] <sulle_> give me a sec SmileyDan i am reading on the problem
[06:43] <Ben_Cs> question: is it better to use gtk/gnome apps or kde apps with xfce?
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=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007
[08:27] (TheSheep/#xubuntu) kstr: never alter mtab by yourself
[08:27] (TheSheep/#xubuntu) champloo: no, there is an option for cron
[08:28] (kstr/#xubuntu) in mtab, it says /dev/sda1 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[08:28] <kstr> as well as /dev/sda1 /EERSTESCHIJF ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[08:28] <kstr> is that normal?
[08:28] <champloo> I am just adding lines to the /etc/crontab file
[08:29] <champloo> it works with simple commands like MKDIR
[08:29] <champloo> but not with this scripts
[08:29] <champloo> but the scrips work fine if I execute them from shell
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[08:47] <Ben_Cs> hi
[08:48] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: hi
[08:48] <hyper_ch> champloo: what's the problem?
[08:49] <Ben_Cs> for some reason almost none of gnome programs work in xubuntu. i.e : when i run gedit a windows opens , with nothing in it, as if it's stuck in middle of loading. must i install gnome for them to work?
[08:49] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: nope, should be working
[08:49] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: it's strange that they don't work
[08:49] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: nevertheles it aint working
[08:49] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: best is to run the from the shell to see where the problem is
[08:49] <champloo> =/ I dont know
[08:50] <champloo> it just doesnt happend anything
[08:50] <hyper_ch> champloo: what are you trying to do?
[08:50] <champloo> the script startthe transmission torrent client
[08:50] <champloo> through transmission-gtk command
[08:50] <champloo> and the script runs fine if I call it from the shell
[08:50] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: when i shell: gedit  , it gets stuck with no result whatsoever
[08:50] <hyper_ch> champloo: how do you do that from the terminal?
[08:51] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: no output? nothing?
[08:51] <Ben_Cs> nada
[08:51] <champloo> /home/champloo/scripts/transmission_start.sh
[08:51] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: now that is strange
[08:51] <hyper_ch> champloo: can you pastebin the script?
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[08:52] <champloo> #!/bin/bash
[08:52] <champloo> transmission-gtk
[08:52] <hyper_ch> !pastbin | champloo
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <hyper_ch> !pasetbin | champloo
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | champloo
[08:52] <ubotu> champloo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:53] <hyper_ch> ups ;)
[08:53] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: i'm installing gnome. will see if it fixes the problem
[08:53] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: if you install gnome or kde appz it should also fetch the according libraries... I fail to see why it's not working for you :(
[08:53] <champloo> what is pastbin?
[08:54] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: and that you have no output whatsoever
[08:54] <hyper_ch> !pastebin | champloo
[08:54] <ubotu> champloo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:54] <hyper_ch> champloo: visit that ;)
[08:54] <Ben_Cs> hyper_ch: when i had Ubuntu (with gnome that is) and installed xubuntu-desktop package, everything was fine, except that gnome was a bit faster then xfce
[08:55] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: well, I can run gnome and kde appz just fine (I run a lot of kde appz ^^)
[08:55] <hyper_ch> Ben_Cs: strange it's not working for you...
[08:56] <Ben_Cs> yeh.strange
[08:56] <champloo> but what do you want me to past there? the script only has one line
[08:56] <champloo> its "transmission-gtk"
[08:56] <hyper_ch> champloo: that's all? why do you put that in a script file then? and how do you try to run that script?
[08:57] <champloo> i did the script beacuse the command doesnt run on crontab
[08:57] <hyper_ch> champloo: it should
[08:57] <hyper_ch> champloo: how was your entry?
[08:57] <champloo> to run the script from sheel I just type "/home/champloo/scripts/transmission_start.sh"
[08:58] <champloo> and it starts the program
[08:58] <hyper_ch> I mean how was you crontab entry?
[08:58] <champloo> 43 *    * * *   /home/mugen/scripts/transmission_start.sh
[08:59] <hyper_ch> why not      43 * * * * transmission-gtk
[08:59] <hyper_ch> that should be working just fine
[08:59] <champloo> yep
[08:59] <champloo> but it doesnt that is why i made the script..
[09:00] <champloo> shit
[09:00] <champloo> i dont understant
[09:00] <champloo> could it have something to do with the DISPLAY var?
[09:01] <hyper_ch> champloo: no clue
[09:01] <hyper_ch> I never put any graphical app in a cron
[09:01] <champloo> ok
[09:02] <champloo> that is also why i thought the script would help
[09:02] <champloo> thanks a lot for the help anyway
[09:03] <hyper_ch> what does transmission do?
[09:04] <champloo> its a torrent client
[09:04] <champloo> like azureus
[09:04] <champloo> but lighter
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[09:05] <Ben_Cs> what are de apps?
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[09:08] <kstr> does anyone know ik it is enough just to edit the menu.lst to alter the GRUB menu ?
[09:09] <kstr> ik=if
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[09:10] <TheSheep> kstr: yes
[09:10] <kstr> ok tnx
[09:10] <TheSheep> kstr: in case of trouble, you can even edit it on boot, by pressing 'e' (but it's not saved)
[09:11] <j1mc> the new artwork for gutsy should be hitting today for anyone who is running gutsy and does an update to their system.
[09:11] <j1mc> it looks pretty good
[09:11] <j1mc> better than pretty good, actually
[09:16] <TheSheep> j1mc: yes, it's improving every release
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[10:05] <hyper_ch> boring
[10:05] <cellofellow> maybe Xubuntu is so stable no one really needs help.
[10:05] <j1mc> haha
[10:05] <j1mc> i wish
[10:05] <hyper_ch> hehhe
[10:06] <j1mc> more like... maybe no one is using it today.  :(
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[10:06] <j1mc> :)
[10:06] <hyper_ch> I'm using it
[10:06] <hyper_ch> and a lot of kde appz in it
[10:06] <j1mc> +1 for hyper_ch
[10:06] <j1mc> heh... why's that?
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[10:06] <hyper_ch> because I like a them ;)
[10:07] <hyper_ch> ktorrent, kate, konqueror,k3b, amarok, kontact
[10:07] <cellofellow> I do wish there was a GTK office suite with the feature set of KOffice. OpenOffice to slow and Abiword doesn't cut it often.
[10:07] <hyper_ch> OOo isn't slow ;)
[10:07] <cellofellow> All of those are great apps ('cept I never bothered with Kontact).
[10:08] <cellofellow> OOo is on some computers.
[10:08] <hyper_ch> cellofellow: not on mine :)
[10:08] <cellofellow> I wonder if KOffice on Xubuntu would slow it up (and in particular fatten up) much.
[10:08] <cellofellow> Oh, OOo runs fine, it just takes like 5 minutes to turn on.
=== vidd uses xubuntu on 3 laptops and a desktop
[10:09] <vidd> and ubuntu-minimal on 3 servers
[10:09] <vidd> =] 
=== cellofellow uses Xubuntu on two desktops, Ubuntu-minimal with Fluxbox on another, and Debian Etch on a server.
[10:11] <cellofellow> And I do like my DreamLinux LiveCD. Remastering will be fun.
[10:11] <j1mc> i have foresight linux on my desktop, and xubuntu on my laptop.
[10:11] <j1mc> the conary package manager is pretty neat.
[10:11] <cellofellow> aptitude is all I need.
[10:12] <j1mc> with conary you can do rollbacks.
[10:12] <cellofellow> oh, huh
[10:13] <j1mc> i don't know too much about it right now, though.
[10:13] <j1mc> conary was written by a bunch of guys who left redhat.
[10:14] <j1mc> but i'll stop talking about it now.  this is a xubuntu channel.  :)
[10:14] <cellofellow> does it still use RPM packages?
[10:15] <Jester45> j1mc, thats an window incarnation just watch what your doing and you shouldnt need roll backs
=== cellofellow never has found them useful.
[10:20] <j1mc> no, it doesn't use rpms
[10:20] <Jester45> well thats good
[10:20] <j1mc> Jester45: but what if a new package or set of packages screws things up?
[10:20] <Jester45> then you remove it
[10:21] <j1mc> but what if it's a new version of the package you need?  i know you can pin a certain package version with apt, but this does it more elegantly.
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[10:24] <hyper_ch> why not aptitude?
[10:25] <hyper_ch> what are roll backs needed for?
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[10:26] <whyking_> hi
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[10:26] <whyking_> when I restart from suspend to hd my screen goes bananas and says "freq. out of sync", after it has loaded the stuff.. I have a dual monitor setup with a nvidia card, is this common?
[10:26] <hyper_ch> whyking_: hi
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[11:04] <colossus73> hi
[11:05] <colossus73> after some updates (I don't remember which ones) hibernate and stand by do not work anymore
[11:05] <colossus73> I really don't know where to look for errors, malfunctions etc etc
[11:05] <colossus73> can anyone help?
[11:06] <hyper_ch> no clue, never use either one
[11:07] <colossus73> is there a log file somewhere at least?
[11:07] <TheSheep> colossus73: in /var/log
[11:07] <TheSheep> colossus73: not sure which one to look at first though
[11:08] <colossus73> there are quite a lot
[11:08] <cellofellow> colossus73: Hibernate and standby don't work at all for me cause I use the binary nvidia drivers.
[11:08] <colossus73> gt[libgtkhtml-2.11.0] $ grep hybernate /var/log/*
[11:08] <colossus73> gt[libgtkhtml-2.11.0] $
[11:08] <cellofellow> Unless there is some way to use that.
[11:08] <colossus73> cellofellow: ah ! It could be! You are right!
[11:09] <cellofellow> colossus73: hibernate, not hybernate
[11:09] <colossus73> I don't remember if they worked before installing
[11:09] <colossus73> oops thank you
[11:09] <cellofellow> actually, they do work, they just don't resume.
[11:09] <colossus73> yes the same happens to me
[11:09] <cellofellow> that's the binary drivers
[11:09] <colossus73> if i do stand-by instead it appears the Xscreensaver login window
[11:09] <cellofellow> well, huh
[11:10] <colossus73> and after typing the password it says "Checking" forever and eerthing is bloked
[11:10] <cellofellow> you could always use a tty to fix it.
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[11:12] <Rynux9> hmm
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[11:15] <Rynux9> there we go :)
[11:15] <kaos_nk> so desne
[11:15] <cellofellow> huh?
[11:16] <Rynux9> messed up somehow in join this channel using pidgin
[11:18] <Rynux9> got to ask this question, has a flash drive ported version of Xubuntu been made yet?
[11:19] <cellofellow> There's one of Ubuntu. If there isn't an official Xubuntu one, then it should be easy to set up.
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[11:28] <Jester45> yea remove everything with gnome  in the name including dependicies then install xubuntu-desktop or maybe modify the version in the beginning
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[12:04] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, Hm?
[12:04] <kalikiana> I assume that DCC to me was by accident?
[12:04] <hyper_ch> just clicked wrongly :) wanted to make vlc larger and selected the file in konqueror and dragged it to your name :)
[12:07] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, I have no idea how you managed to do that :P
[12:08] <hyper_ch> konqueror & konversation
[12:08] <hyper_ch> drag'n'drop and dcc is being initiated
[12:11] <kalikiana> Ah, ok.
[12:11] <hyper_ch> ^^
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