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Urilocklewis@Lewis-Desktop:~$ apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:17
UrilockE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)12:17
stdinsudo...12:18
Urilock>.<12:19
Urilockthis is a great fun and fast way to use 500mb lol12:19
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Foollerwhat do I need to install to watch quicktime videos in firefox :|12:20
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Tomi-idleFooller: mozilla-mplayer12:21
RobNycanyone here running kde 3.5.712:23
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dthacker-ltno12:25
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manchickenRobNyc: I am.12:26
manchickenHey, folks who are considering buying new computers, consider bringing a copy of the Kubuntu Live CD to your computer distributor (e.g. Circuit City) and test it out before you buy, if you plan on buying from a retail distributor.12:27
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hasanhi guys12:27
hasani ve got a question12:27
RobNycmanchicken: how did you get it12:27
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RobNycthe instructions are so wrong12:27
manchickenI just called Circuit City, and the guy told me that he was cool with me bringing the Feisty Live CD in.12:27
hasani use konqueror and by pressing f8 konsole behind konqueror12:27
manchickenRobNyc: Which instructions are you following?12:27
hasanlets say taht i ve changed to /home/hasan directory in konsole12:28
RobNycmanchicken: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php12:28
hasanin konqueror view im in another directory12:28
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hasanhow can i make those changes in accordance ?12:28
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manchickenRobNyc: What version of Kubuntu are you running?12:28
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RobNycmanchicken: latest :)12:28
manchickenRobNyc: Define latest?  Can you give me the DISTRIB_RELEASE value from the /etc/lsb-release file?12:29
dvheumenI've been searching on google and ubuntu forums but could find the answer (or am searching the wrong way) so I'm asking here: Is it possible to create a shortcut to an application on another linux PC so it starts with X11 Forwarding support?12:29
RobNycmanchicken: Feisty12:29
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manchickenRobNyc: Those instructions worked for me on Feisty.12:29
RobNyc7.0412:29
manchickenWhich part are you having trouble with?12:29
Soulwarpwat are the plans for the next release of ubuntu/kubuntu12:30
RobNycit says How To Use and if i try to do it via gui there is not authentication tab to start of12:30
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manchickenRobNyc: Try doing it without the GUI.12:30
RobNyci think i managed now12:30
RobNycmanchicken: just did12:30
manchickenIt's pretty easy.12:30
RobNycmuch easier12:30
manchickenYeah, adept in Feisty is kinda... not as good as it could be.12:31
manchickenOkay, I'm off to buy computers.12:31
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Soulwarpim having a problem opening adept package manager...12:36
Soulwarpit's not opening12:36
Soulwarpah never mind12:37
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Foollerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR Will this guide work in Kubuntu too?12:40
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dvheumenHow can I (in KDE) create a shortcut to an application on a remote X server?12:41
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erikeeeI just installed Tribe 4 and I am trying to install ATI drivers.. however, I am presented with a list of x_dir:s since it can't detect my configuration.. workarounds?!12:43
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tobiasgn8 guys12:46
tobias!n812:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about n8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
tobias;)12:46
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erikeeeI just installed Tribe 4 and I am trying to install ATI drivers.. however, I am presented with a list of x_dir:s since it can't detect my configuration.. workarounds?!12:56
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=== runlevelten thought you typed Tribes 4 for a second :(
fkmHi there. Does someone know what executable and/or what commandline arguments the "Home Folder" from the "Menu of important system places" has? I now got the exec kfmclient and the arguments "openProfile filemanagement" but it doesn't open a new tab in the already opened Konqueror :(12:58
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fkmI got the exec and arguments from the "Home" Button from the "Quick Launcher" applet. And I guess it's not a problem of the Konqueror config as the tab thing works with the "Home Folder" button from the "Menu of important ..."01:00
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elite101wow01:05
elite1017.04 is soooo better than 6.0601:05
adenicio!pty01:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:05
elite101i was missing out large01:05
elite101the mapping and windows are soo clean and it has a better feel01:06
FoollerHow do I make ISO image out of a file in my root dir?01:06
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elite101man i feel like i need alot of ram for running Kubuntu 7.04? i have only 292mb is that good?01:12
Tomi-idleyou can run kde fine with 300mb :)01:12
elite101thats cool01:12
Tomi-idlebut if you're using programs like firefox it can suck a lot of ram01:13
elite101well it seems wayy..better feisty feet01:13
Tomi-idleminimize the programs you're running at same time to avoid slowing down01:13
elite101yeah01:13
elite101well im going to un-install bluetooth/printing services and unnessacry things i dont use01:13
elite101i love 7.04 it's way better than looking @ 6.06.101:14
Tomi-idlehave feisty on 224mb laptop (some shared) and i can run firefox + flash no probs01:14
elite101cool*01:14
fkmIf it's not a laptop you can normally also uninstall all the PPP tools01:14
elite101well im going to get a 1gig stick but there is only one prob.01:14
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elite101yeah true*01:14
elite101i dont use ppoe*01:14
Tomi-idlei dont like the looks so much, using the svn oxygen icons + qtcurve + some other minor tweaks01:14
elite101for DSl but 1gb stick in SD ram is like 256DDR ram01:15
Tomi-idlealso if you dont use bluetooth remove the daemon01:15
elite101SD is alot slower its only like 250Mbps01:15
elite101whats that?01:15
elite101daemon*01:15
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Tomi-idleit's the backend of bluetooth connectivity.01:15
elite101ic01:15
Tomi-idleit takes a few megs ;)01:15
elite101well i usually uninstall things in add/remove manager01:15
elite101yeah01:16
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elite101man i dont ever wanna go back to 6.0601:16
Tomi-idlewait till gutsy comes out and get kde4 working on it.. *drool*01:16
elite101lol01:16
fkmI don't know what I shall think about Dolphin01:17
elite101i know it was only 3.5.2 or something that 6.06.1 had (thank god i never used 5.10)01:17
fkmI really came to like that Konqueror handles everything01:17
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elite101and is faster*01:17
elite101can i un-instal Knetwork manager?01:18
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fkmyou could, but if you have a wireless card I don't recommend it01:18
Tomi-idlefkm: i have the same thing, got used to konqueror and it works great for me. dolphin seems worse atm01:18
elite101nvm then01:18
elite101lol i have ethernet01:18
elite101but just incase01:18
Tomi-idlei uninstalled knetwork manager.. had no probs without it01:19
elite101is opreha any good webbroswer? isnt it really lightweight?01:19
thedevilsjesterIf I add -static to the compile line, it will statically link all deps, but what if I just want to statically link 1 dep?01:19
Tomi-idlebut if you encounter probs just install it again :D01:19
fkmelite101: If you have an ethernet connection with a DHCP server providing your IP you normally don't need the KNetworkManager frontent (IMO)01:19
Tomi-idleopera is closed source software, i wouldn't recommend using it01:19
elite101okay lol01:19
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Tomi-idlebut some say it's good, even better than firefox for some01:19
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elite101well i think thats what the PSP webbrowser use's and same goes for the WII/PS3?01:19
fkmTomi-idle: I just hope we can switch back to Konqueror as the default file manager in Gutsy01:20
Tomi-idlefkm: im pretty sure we can, and it should be rather easy. :)01:20
fkmI hope so :)01:20
elite101Gutsy? is it like Dapper/feisty feet?01:20
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thedevilsjesterAny C/C++ devs know about static linking an individual dep, not all deps ?01:20
Tomi-idlegutsy is the next release. im running the alpha version right now01:20
elite101so KDE is the desktop enviorment and so is Gnome and then what does gutsy/dapper/feisty mean?01:21
elite101what are they?01:21
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thedevilsjesterversions01:21
elite101for what thou?01:21
elite101kernel?01:21
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thedevilsjesterfot the OS01:21
elite101ic01:21
thedevilsjesterfor*01:21
Tomi-idlethey include different kernels, different programs(or versions of them) etc01:21
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elite101okay01:21
thedevilsjesterjust like 9x XP Vista etc01:21
thedevilsjestertitles for each new version01:22
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elite101well i must say from using Dapper Feisty Feet is way... ebtter01:22
elite101okay01:22
Tomi-idlebut you can upgrade to the next version from the last pretty easily01:22
elite101yeah01:22
thedevilsjesterSo no devs here then?01:22
elite101im on 7.0401:22
Tomi-idlegutsy (hopefully) will be even better than feisty ;)01:22
elite101i can just upgrade to 7.10 rite now01:22
elite101:P01:22
fkmI hope so. Crashed my whole system when I tried to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty01:22
Tomi-idle7.10 is gutsy01:23
elite101ohhh01:23
Tomi-idlebut it's not _stable_ yet and might encounter some problems, even data loss01:23
elite101wholey? there is so many is there even Kubuntu going back to99? like 99.06.1?01:23
Tomi-idle99?01:24
elite101lol01:24
elite101how many is there?01:24
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elite101from when this distro?01:24
elite101only back to 05'01:24
Tomi-idlei think ubuntu starter from 05.. so i think 5.x was the first01:24
elite101yeah01:24
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Tomi-idlebut kubuntu was like 2006?01:24
Biovorefirst big release anyway..01:24
elite101ohh01:24
Tomi-idlenot sure ;)01:24
elite101yeah01:24
elite101yeah thats what i meant ubuntu 5.1001:25
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elite101but who use's edubuntu?01:25
elite101i find itkinda pointless01:25
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Tomi-idlelol i just got why they name the versions 6.04 6.10 etc.. lol01:25
Tomi-idleim pretty slow..01:25
elite101same*01:25
Tomi-idleedubuntu is made towards educational purposes01:26
Tomi-idlelike schools etc.01:26
elite101is there anyway possiable to run a MAC os on a PC? i heard of ppl getting it for there xbox?01:26
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elite101yeah01:26
elite101i wish i can get a Kubuntu to run MAC programs like video editing*01:27
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Tomi-idleelite101: i think it's pretty illegal to run osx on pc01:27
elite101yeah01:27
elite101but is there away?01:27
Tomi-idlebut they do have how to's on how ot run beta version of leopard on pc :p01:27
Wckdkl0wnwhat repositories do i have to add to install the latest wine?01:27
elite101lol01:27
Tomi-idleyeah you could run the latest os's on pcs..01:27
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elite101well my computer is doing a serious upgrade now01:28
Tomi-idlejust was an article on digg.com01:28
elite101mhmm01:28
elite101i should check it out*01:28
elite101lol thank god i had a blank CD so i could burn 7.0401:28
Tomi-idlei suppose if you bought the OS you could do anything you want with it. im not a lawyer but that sounds reasonable to me ;)01:28
elite101yeah01:28
elite101but then again01:28
BluesKajWckdkl0wn, windows repos :)01:29
elite101u could reverse engineer it and improve ur OS and then make ppl pay01:29
Tomi-idledunno how seriously eula must be taken01:29
elite101u can do the same with linux but01:29
Tomi-idleyou could run into patent problems on reverse engineering01:29
elite101see i wish it was like that U bought it the "consumer" u should beable to use it abuse lose and choose it01:29
elite101yeah*01:29
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elite101well im going to be working in late december* and im going to save for either a Dell XPS or a Suzuki GSX-r01:30
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elite101im thinking GSXR but then again its going to take long*01:30
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Tomi-idlesuzuki ftw :D01:30
elite101lol01:31
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fkmBtw. does anybody here has Beryl working on his Kubuntu?01:31
elite101i dont wanna Hayabusa there to big01:31
elite101im only turning 15 and when i hit 16 im going for my M1-M201:31
Tomi-idleelite101: i think we drifted a bit too much offtopic ;)01:31
elite101yeah01:31
runlevelten!borkomatix01:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about borkomatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:31
runleveltenoh yeah01:32
runlevelten!automatix01:32
ubotuAutomatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)01:32
Tomi-idlei had beryl working fine on feisty . also compiz-f worked fine on feisty but not on gutsy01:32
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elite101there is a program for windows its called ntune it overclocks and stuff will it work using wine?01:33
elite101or is there a linux supported version?01:33
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fkmTomi-idle: Do you have an ATI card?01:33
Biovorethere is a nvidia tunning tool for linux.. wine can't access hardware directly..01:33
Tomi-idleif it's nvidia. you could try nvclock & nvclock-qt01:33
elite101ahh01:33
Tomi-idlefkm: nvidia sry01:34
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fkmkk :)01:34
Biovorebut you need to be care full with nvlock.. you can permintely kill your card with the wrong settings..01:34
fkmI guess I know what's next on my shopping list ;)01:34
Tomi-idleanything that says "overclocking" can ruin your hardware ;)01:34
elite101well01:34
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elite101overcloking is an ART not a skill* (like some say)01:35
elite101i have my system overclocked"01:35
elite101i just wanna get my video card a little higher01:35
Biovoreits an art if you don't know what your doing.. its a skill of you do..01:35
elite101lol01:35
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Tomi-idlelol@biovore01:35
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elite101with 7.04 is flash enabled? or installed?01:36
Biovoreyou can get flash on it..01:36
Tomi-idleelite101: i dont think it's enabled by default01:36
BiovoreI have 7.04 running on my gamming box..01:36
elite101ahh01:36
fkmflashplugin-nonfree01:36
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Wckdkl0wnanyone else have problems with k3b with making iso? i get it to get to 98% then it errors out on any cd i do01:36
isthisnickvalid_Hi!01:36
elite101well i usually download firefox and it does it for me :)01:36
fkmI don't know, but I think there's even a free version.01:37
isthisnickvalid_I have a Zydas usb WLAN dongle.... from Zaapa.01:37
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elite101Zydas?01:37
elite101wow01:37
Tomi-idlethere's an open source version of flash called gnash01:37
Tomi-idleGNU flash ;)01:37
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elite101never heard of them? is the doogle alot of money?01:37
Tomi-idlebut it doesn't work on all flash programs01:38
isthisnickvalid_It seems it has been correctly detected by kubuntu 7.04, but I want to put it in Acces Point mode, to use it with my Nintendo Wii... Where could I learn to do that?01:38
elite101i am looking for a Doggle that is supported with Kubuntu rite off the bat so its like a "plug and play"01:38
elite101a wiki or Youtube?01:38
adamim having trouble with beryl is there something different than ubuntu that i should know or im doing wrong?01:38
elite101ppl post tutorials on the web or on google.com01:38
Biovorergr01:38
Biovorewhen in doubt.. ask google.. it knows stuff..01:39
elite101lol01:39
elite101its brain is powerd by solaris*01:39
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elite101but anyone have a Doggle that works with kubuntu rite off the bat like its just "PnP"?01:39
isthisnickvalid_My usb wlan dongle seems to be like "plug and play" but I don't know how to acces to the acces point mode.01:40
elite101im looking to buy one so i dont have to use Ndiswrapper or anything01:40
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isthisnickvalid_And I know that the driver supports that mode, and also monitor mode.01:40
elite101hmh^01:40
fkmWckdkl0wn: Works fine here01:40
jrickDoes anyone have any knowledge on setting up a SMTP server?  I want to set up one (sendmail?) on my box here because my email provider's (runbox) smtp server seems to be always down.01:40
elite101isthisnickvalid, what kinda of doggle?01:41
isthisnickvalid_54mbps WIFI01:41
elite101no brand*01:41
isthisnickvalid_Zaapa, is the brand.01:41
elite101k01:41
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isthisnickvalid_The chipset is from Zydas01:41
=== elite101 wonders of i can get one @ wal-mart?
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elite101http://zydas.rapla.net/01:43
isthisnickvalid_So can I share my internet connection or not?01:43
elite101not sure lol01:43
elite101a network bridge?01:44
mohammadwould someone please let me know where I can find a gnome applet developing howto?01:44
elite101ohh ic make an access point with the USB device and get ur "game sys" to connect to it?01:44
elite101or lappy?01:44
isthisnickvalid_yes01:44
isthisnickvalid_that's what I'd like to do.01:45
fkmmohammad: I guess this is the wrong channel for that ;)01:45
isthisnickvalid_what's the correct channel?01:45
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elite101for what?01:45
elite101broadcasting?01:45
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isthisnickvalid_My question is related to the drivers included in kubuntu... and kubuntu's tool.01:45
elite101i use 11/6 wich ever01:45
isthisnickvalid_tools01:45
elite101ohh well01:45
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mohammadfkm: so, do you have any idea where I should ask it?01:45
elite101im not sure01:46
fkmWell I guess if he searches for a GNOME devel tool he's better of asking the guys in #ubuntu :)01:46
elite101so u need a Program to make the USB dev do both monitor and do things Wlan program in Kubuntu cant do01:46
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elite101but im not sure of any programs01:46
jrickso no one knows how to set up smtp?01:46
fkmEventhough it's possible with Kubuntu I think most people here don't use GNOME01:46
fkmI don't :|01:47
elite101me either*01:47
mohammadthank you anyway01:47
jrickhmmm, i'll ask on #ubuntu then01:47
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isthisnickvalid_elite101, do you know any program of that sort?01:47
elite101no01:48
elite101sorry*01:48
Biovorejrick: I think ubuntu uses postfix by default.. just google on postfix setup..01:48
elite101in windows u can do it but not sure about kubuntu01:48
isthisnickvalid_and what's the name for that? Broadcasting? Acces point mode?01:48
elite101is there a wiki for usb doggles supported or a website?01:48
elite101um no sure01:48
elite101its in windows*01:48
elite101its not a program but windows Xp does it01:49
holymolyhahaha01:49
holymolyoh wow01:49
elite101but01:49
elite101u should ask someone else01:49
holymolydrag and drop works between nautilus and konqueror01:49
holymolyoh i love linux01:49
Biovoreyou can share you internet connection.. but it requires some lower level configuration.. no gui atm..01:49
holymolyi didn't know that was a solved problem01:49
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holymolynautilus was logged into an ftp site, konq into an ssh account01:49
holymolyyow01:49
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jrickBiovore: postfix isn't installed, are you sure it's the default?01:51
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elite101will Kubuntu 7.04 feistyFeet still use .deb? for programs?01:52
elite101i am going to get limewire*01:52
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isthisnickvalid_Can I play good games with a card that obtains 1013 fps with glxgears?01:54
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elite101wow 1013?01:55
elite10110-13?01:55
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haffiCan anyone recommend a webcam GUI for KDE?01:55
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isthisnickvalid_1082.995 FPS01:56
elite101wow?01:56
elite101i have only 1.6 in xracer01:56
elite101:P01:56
isthisnickvalid_do you have 3d accel activated?01:56
Tomi-idlei have 10k fps in glxgears and wow is still a bit slow01:57
elite101when i shut everything down i get like 4.501:57
elite101no?01:57
fkmAbout sharing the internet connection. Firestarter had some function called like that (or similarly). Maybe that works (but no idea, honestly)01:57
elite1013d accel?01:57
elite101!3d01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:57
elite101!3D01:57
Tomi-idleelite101: binary drivers for your gfx card01:57
elite101ohh wel noo01:57
isthisnickvalid_I have an ati 9200 SE with free drivers...01:57
elite101its too old01:57
isthisnickvalid_the closed source drivers where stopped...01:57
isthisnickvalid_were*01:57
elite101but i usually play games that are online01:58
fkm!fglrx01:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:58
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isthisnickvalid_firestarter... thanks fkm, I'll give it a try01:58
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fkmIt's about the ... maybe 3rd page of the wizard that pops up when you launch it for the first tim01:58
fkme01:58
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jrickI think I found what I needed: http://my.opera.com/Contrid/blog/show.dml/47868401:59
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casperzshadoeverytime i turn on beryl my screen turns white, is there something im missing?02:01
evaldocomo fao para ajuda em portugus?02:01
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[1] Myelinhello02:02
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elite101hello02:02
casperzshadois there anybody out there02:02
elite101yeah02:02
casperzshadoi need a hand02:03
elite101sorry lol i know nothing about beryl02:03
[1] MyelinPlease can you tell me the command to know what apt-get will download and install.02:03
NickPresta[1] Myelin, `sudo apt-get -s install PACKAGE`02:03
evaldohelp for speecher of portuguese02:03
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yurimxpxmanis there any way to forward audio over ssh?02:03
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jrickhmm, postfix config is asking me some basic questions, and i don't know how to answer them.02:03
Biovoreyurimxpxman: the sound servers in kde (arts) can do network sounds.. I have never messed with it..02:04
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jrickInternet Site, Internet Site using smarthost, Satellite system, and Local delivery only.02:04
elite101mhm i wonder if ppl know my nick by now i have been on hear since like 2-3 months?02:04
level1flash player in konqueror (youtube) was working just yesterday, but now youtube gives me the "you don't have flash" message... according to the settings I have libflash loaded into konqueror02:04
jrickwhich should I choose?02:05
Biovorejrick: the going to be a real internet mail server that accept mail from other mail servers?02:05
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jrickBiovore: i just want to send all my mail through this computer, not some other website or server.02:05
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Biovorejrick: local only then..02:06
BluesKajweb mail can be a saviour sometimes02:06
jrickBiovore: k, thanks02:06
Ronald- Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success02:06
casperzshadoim having trouble with beryl can anyone gimme a hand?02:07
elite101#ubuntu <- ?02:07
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isthisnickvalid_casperzshado, tell us your problem02:07
jrickBiovore: what do I do about the 'mail name'?02:08
level1!flash02:08
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash02:08
jrickBiovore: it says it's the stuff after the @02:08
casperzshadoeverytime i start beryl my screen goes white, i just changed from ubuntu and it worked fine there02:08
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Biovoreyou got something setup wrong probably..02:08
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Biovoreits the same xserver and interface basicly.02:09
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elite101does kubuntu have anything like mal-ware/spy-ware/at all?02:09
jrickBiovore: since I use runbox, if I want to make it look like I used their runbox server, would I use 'runbox.com'?02:09
elite101or a virus?02:09
Biovorewell there isn't anything in th wild02:10
elite101i thought i read or heard about someone trying to rite a virus for linux? o_002:10
isthisnickvalid_It can exist, but there is a very very little probablity for you to be infected by anything.02:10
elite101yeah02:10
Biovorein theroy you could..02:10
elite101but02:10
elite101who would?02:10
Biovorebut it would probably only run as a user..02:10
elite101why is windows so vulnerable to attacks?02:10
elite101yeah*02:10
isthisnickvalid_but nobody is interested in programming viruses for a plataform with no-so-many users as windows02:10
isthisnickvalid_lol02:10
elite101with out root privilages02:10
elite101true*02:11
elite101ic02:11
Biovoreeveryone uses windows as administrator02:11
elite101yeah02:11
Biovorethus everyone gets owned..02:11
elite101so then it spreads like wildfire02:11
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, do you know what could be the cause of my screen going white after starting beryl?02:11
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isthisnickvalid_casperzshado what card do you have?02:11
Ronald-I'm trying to install ubuntu,    do you think that if I try to install Kubuntu it will work?02:12
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BiovoreRonald-: did ubuntu install?02:12
elite101lol funny thing i had a broken system" and i installed Kubuntu on a second HDD and the first one started to work?02:13
Ronald-biovore> nope02:13
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elite101it was weird it fixed it02:13
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BiovoreRonald-: then I doubt kubuntu will install eather.. try the alternate installer.. that might work..02:14
Ronald-biovore> I get an error each time i reboot the sysmem after installing it02:14
Biovoreoh.. what error?02:14
Biovoregrub 18?02:14
Ronald-biovore> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"02:14
Ronald-biovore> and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/02:14
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Biovorehmm.. looks like udev is letting you down.. :-/02:15
Ronald-biovore> however when I run ubuntu from the CD it  works fine02:15
isthisnickvalid_casperzshado, what's the brand of your video card'02:16
isthisnickvalid_?02:16
Ronald-biovore> what can I do to fix that?02:16
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, dual nvidia geforce 7600 gs02:16
elite101sli problems?02:16
jrickok, I think I have postfix working now, but how do I configure it into Mailody?02:16
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BiovoreRonald-: yeah..  might need to change your your grub boot options..  need to pass root=<root_device> and not by uid..  It looks like when the kernel is comming up it can't seem to find the disk with the lable posted..02:17
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casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, it worked fine on ubuntu about 2 hours ago02:17
isthisnickvalid_and now it goes white?02:17
hsaterais there any browser that runs in python?02:18
casperzshadoyeah, only in kubuntu02:18
isthisnickvalid_You tried beryl with ubuntu and worked. Now tried with kubuntu and didn't work. Is that the problem?02:18
Biovorehsatera: no but python can call and interface with konqueror using kde interface modules02:18
Ronald-biovore>how can I change the  grub boot options? sorry I'm newbie02:18
isthisnickvalid_What window manager are you using? I guess beryl switches to "beryl" window manager automaticlly02:18
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, i tried kubuntu last week and had the same problem, burned another boot disk, went back to ubuntu and  just tried again02:19
elite101can i update KDE 3.5.6 to 4.0 beta from Kubuntu 7.04?02:19
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isthisnickvalid_Have you tried compiz-fusion?02:19
casperzshadoim wondereing if theres something that i just dont know about kubuntu yet02:19
hsateraBiovore: i need to access the internet trough the shell, and cannot compile cc/gcc programs;02:19
Biovoreelite101: In theory yes..  but I don't think there any debs guarented to work though..02:19
elite101ahh02:19
isthisnickvalid_I think it could be, casperzshado, that Ubuntu uses by default "Compiz" and Kubuntu usually uses Beryl...02:20
elite101what happens if i try and it works?02:20
Biovorehsatera: lynx..  a text based web browser?02:20
isthisnickvalid_and the bug could be only in beryl and not present in Compiz02:20
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, i tried that for ubuntu but couldnt get it to work right, thought i would wait until they got the kinks worked out02:20
isthisnickvalid_You're using NVIDIA's propietary driver, right?02:20
hsateraBiovore: it has gcc02:20
isthisnickvalid_From apt-get02:20
hsatera=/02:20
elite101anyone using 4.0 beta?02:21
Biovorehsatera: what is it your tring to do.. I am not really clear what your problem is..02:21
Ronald-Biovore> Sir, how can I change the  grub boot options? sorry I'm a newbie02:21
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, , i'm pretty sure but i dont know where to find the restricted drivers in kubuntu, things are a little different02:21
hsateraBiovore: want to use a browser trough a remote connection, wich can't compile anything cause i'm not root and do not have gcc installed02:22
BiovoreRonald-: when it boots you can try pressing esc and then press 'e' to edit the entry..02:22
BiovoreRonald-: I am not really sure what the fix would be.. might need to check google or the forums..02:22
Biovore!forums02:22
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.02:22
elite101well gtg02:23
isthisnickvalid_casperzshado02:23
elite101bye02:23
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isthisnickvalid_go to "System" and then "Adept"02:23
Biovorehsatera: so you sshed into this remote shell?02:23
isthisnickvalid_That's the package manager, like Synaptics02:23
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hsateratelnet.02:23
casperzshadook02:23
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isthisnickvalid_and then, there search for nvidia's driver02:23
Ronald-Biovore> ok, Thank you Sir, at least I have a clue now, I've beenn 2 hours in the ubuntu channel asking the same question and nobody paid me attention02:23
isthisnickvalid_and install the "new" package (there is another group of packages for older graphic cards)02:23
Biovorehsatera: ok..  and you want to browser the web on that remote shell?02:24
hsaterayes.02:24
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Biovorewell givin it text only.. your stuck with eather lynx links or w3m was web-based browsers..02:24
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Tomi-idlei think you could use vnc or something like that to use remote X window02:25
Biovore^ probably a bette approach..02:25
hsateraBiovore: all of them use gcc?02:26
Biovoregcc is a c compiler..02:26
hsaterayes.02:26
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_, it doesnt appear i have it, there a lot of them there, how do i know which one to get?02:26
Tomi-idlehsatera: telnet is not very secure way to connect. ssh is a preferred way02:26
BiovoreI don't see what your asking has to do with a compiler..02:27
casperzshadosorry did see that02:27
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linux_user400354I have 2 dual layer dvd burners and I want to use them both at once for burning. do I have to run 2 instances of k3b to do that?02:28
hsateraBiovore: i simply can't compile programs without previous libs02:28
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isthisnickvalid_wait a sec02:29
isthisnickvalid_casperzshado02:29
Biovorelinux_user400354: dual layer is handeld by the burner.. has nothing to do with software.. k3b should detect it as a dual-layered, I think..02:29
casperzshadoyeah02:29
Biovorehsatera: what are you compiling?02:29
Tomi-idlelinux_user400354: you might want to check out k3b's site's faq02:29
hsateratrying lyns.02:30
hsateralynx02:30
Tomi-idlelinux_user400354: or forums. might have some info on the subject02:30
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Biovorehsatera: ah the remote box dosn't have lynx or w3m on it, then I guess..02:30
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hsaterano it doesnt.02:30
isthisnickvalid_casperzshado you have to install nvidia-glx02:30
Biovorehsatera: do you know what the remote end is running?02:30
Biovorehsatera: I am guess you don't have a admin account on that remote machine..02:31
hsateradidnt understand the question02:31
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hsaterano i dont.02:31
isthisnickvalid_casperzshado: when you finished installing that, open a terminal window (konsole) and type this: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable02:31
Biovorehsatera: what OS/version is the remote end.. what hardware is it running on..02:31
casperzshadook 1 sec02:32
W1ZrDWhat kind of bot is the IRC bot here?02:32
hsaterawhat should i type to see all this? top ? df?02:32
Biovorecustom thing..02:32
Biovorehsatera: uname -a02:32
W1ZrDuh, is the bot written custom from scratch, or is it based off something like Supybot?02:33
linux_user400354Tomi-idle: http://k3b.plainblack.com/faq i see nothing about it02:33
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BiovoreW1ZrD: I think its a custom thing in python or perl..02:33
casperzshadoisthisnickvalid_,  do i have to restart my pc to restart x?02:33
W1ZrDthnx Biovore, I would have need for one I can custom with ![variable] [string] 02:34
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hsateraBiovore: i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux02:34
Biovoreok02:34
Biovorehsatera: lsb_release -cs02:35
hsaterawhat will it do/02:35
Biovoreprint out the distro and info02:35
Biovoreor lsb_release -a02:36
Tomi-idlelsb_release -d should be better02:36
hsateracommand not found02:36
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Biovorehsatera: hmm so its not a out of the box linux then..02:36
Biovorehsatera: custom job02:36
level1_Hi, is there a way to configure touchpads in kde?02:36
jcs7778is there a way to configure toutch pads on laptops?02:36
level1_jcs7778: stop copying me, charles02:37
Tomi-idlelevel1_: i think you have to manually edit xorg.conf . let me try to search if there's a gui for it02:37
hsaterano way to run lynx so?02:37
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level1_Tomi-idle: me and jcs7778 are just looking for a way to configure tap-to-click and scroll-on-edge features02:37
isthisnickvalid_casperzshado02:37
isthisnickvalid_you have to restart x02:38
isthisnickvalid_remember to do the command02:38
isthisnickvalid_if you haven't done already02:38
Biovorehsatera: you could build all static implementation for x86 on your box then copy it over..02:38
hsaterawill it work u think?02:38
Biovorehsatera: in theory you can build lynx if you have access to a gcc compiler though..  but you can't do the standard ./configure make make install procedure though..02:38
hsaterai have links installed here.02:39
Tomi-idlelevel1_: try a program called ksynaptics02:39
Biovorehsatera: the lynxs is dynamic linked..  you need a static linked version..02:39
hsaterai have links, not lynx02:39
isthisnickvalid_Do you know any good strategy game? For online gaming.02:40
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hsatera/usr/share/docs Biovore ?02:40
Biovorehsatera: If there installed from a deb there probably dynamicly linked and won't work on anothere system..02:40
Tomi-idlelevel1_: from what i see ksynaptics seems to do the job you need :)02:40
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elite101mhmm while going threw the programs list i saw this "A very nice MSN compatible messenger application. Works pretty much like its Windows based counterpart. Perfect for keeping in touch with those friends who have not yet seen the light."02:40
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elite101;)02:40
hsaterai installed running ./configure02:41
Biovorehsatera: you would have to build a staticly linked version of lynx or links or whatever then copy the bin over..02:41
level1_Tomi-idle: whats the command to run it?02:41
Biovorehsatera: ./configure will give you a dynamic link02:41
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runleveltenbattle for wesnoth.02:41
runleveltenfreeciv.02:41
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runleveltenisthisnickvalid_:02:41
Tomi-idlelevel1_: alt-f2 and type "ksynaptics"02:41
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level1_Tomi-idle: no, thats not it02:41
hsaterahow do i get it?02:41
hsateraa static linked?02:42
Tomi-idlehsatera: there should be a module in kcontrol too02:42
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Tomi-idlehsatera: it works thru alt-f2, but not thru terminal. the command02:42
Biovorehsatera: it complicated.. basicly google on building things as statics on google.. there extra commands and steps to do it..02:42
Tomi-idleoops02:42
Biovorehehe02:42
Tomi-idlehsatera: i mean to say those to level1_02:43
level1_Tomi-idle: how is that possible?02:43
Tomi-idlelevel1_: because alt-f2 also recognizes kde modules i think02:43
hsateraand to me?02:43
hsaterahow do i get a static linked program/02:43
Tomi-idlelevel1_: so it could be something like "kcontrol ksynaptics" command that it's trying to run02:43
Biovorehsatera: google on it.. it verys on the package..02:44
Biovorehsatera: basicly thats at a level where you have to know how linking works and what the OS does when it runs a application..02:44
runleveltenwhat you looking for level1_?02:44
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Tomi-idlelevel1_: you did install the ksynaptics package right?02:45
runleveltenare you talking about a kcontrol module?02:45
level1_Tomi-idle, runlevelten: I got it02:45
level1_thanks02:45
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Tomi-idlenp02:45
runleveltenAh, OK :)02:45
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Tomi-idlerunlevelten: it can be also run through kcontrol02:45
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hsateraBiovore: may i pm u for a second or notice?02:46
isthisnickvalid_runlevelten, and what about a good RTS game?02:46
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adeniciostdin: when im going to shut tdown the pc i go in K it only got the option log out.cant i change that to show the menu restart or shut down?02:53
adeniciowhen im going to shut tdown the pc i go in K it only got the option log out.cant i change that to show the menu restart or shut down?02:54
isthisnickvalid_bye02:55
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ubuntuisthisnickvalid_: ok worse problem, after restarting my pc, now i cant get to the ligin screen i had this problem in ubuntu i went to the ctrl alt f1 and removed and reinstalled gdm , but appearently kubuntu doesnt use gdm, what does it use for login and would i approacck it the came way?02:56
fkmkdm02:56
level1what button do I have to press so that, no matter what, if my finger is not on the left click button my touchpad will not click?02:56
level1I turned off tapping in ksynaptics but its still tapping02:57
level1its driving me nuts!02:57
level1Most frustratating "feature" ever02:57
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ubuntufkm:  was that for me?02:58
fkmyes02:58
ubuntuthank you02:58
fkmKubuntu uses kdm (KDE Display Manager)02:58
fkmBut I don't know the answer to the rest of your question02:59
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leafwis there any way to use xrandr to activate an external screen when connected while xorg is already running?03:01
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leafwxrandr -q lists "Reflections possible - none" but if I restart xorg, then the second screen starts working automatically03:01
leafwthe problem is in "hotplugging" an external screen03:02
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lucaf3rrhow do I enable compiz and Xgl in Tribe with KDE4b1?03:06
alexandroshey guys03:06
alexandroswhen I try to apt-get install adept-notifier I get the following message:03:07
isthisnickvalid_ubuntu03:07
isthisnickvalid_kubuntu uses kdm03:07
alexandros  adept-notifier: Depends: update-notifier-common but it is not installable03:07
isthisnickvalid_You can do this03:07
isthisnickvalid_go to /etc/X1103:08
isthisnickvalid_and then take the xorg.conf backup that nvdia's driver did and rename it to xorg.conf03:08
isthisnickvalid_overwriting the new configuration03:08
isthisnickvalid_perhaps nvidia-glx disable?03:08
alexandrosand when I try to apt-get update-notifier-common I get:03:09
alexandrosPackage update-notifier-common is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:09
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alexandroswhat should I do ?:D03:09
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renato_anyone know if a virtual machine takes long to start working, because this virtual box has been at 0% for ages?03:12
jdz1394hey, here's a really noob question. I've installed UT2004 on kubuntu 7.04, how do I run it?03:12
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_beata_Hello hello. Is it possible for the default kernel to handle more than four ISA/PCI serial ports?03:13
Biovorerenato_: virtual box should just boot up..03:13
Biovore_beata_: it should be able too..03:13
Biovore_beata_: ass long as the cards are support by the kernel..03:13
Biovore(as)03:13
_beata_I get this error on boot: Couldn't register serial port 0000:00:06.0: -2803:14
Biovore^ pci serial port?03:14
_beata_Yes.03:14
Biovorewhat uart is on it?03:14
_beata_16550A03:14
_beata_It's the fourth port of a four-port card.03:14
level1whats the story with linux on intel macs?03:15
level1does it "run"?03:15
Biovoreoh.. so you got 20 serial ports then?03:15
underdog5004level1, yes03:15
Biovorelevel1: yes...03:15
_beata_No, I have five ports.03:15
level1so, the ubuntu intel 32 liveCD would boot and install on a mac?03:16
Biovoreyup03:16
Biovorebroadcom nic03:16
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_beata_I'll elaborate a little, if it isn't sufficiently spammy.03:16
Biovoreintel duo core with intel chipset..03:16
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_beata_Hmm, six lines might be sufficiently spammy. Do we have a paste channel?03:17
Dragnslcr!paste03:17
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:17
jeffmitchellATTENTION BORED PEOPLE: please test my webserver and tell me if you get anything ---> 60.234.217.17003:17
Biovorejeffmitchell: Looks like its working..03:18
jeffmitchellBiovore: what'd you get? is there a file there?03:18
_beata_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33880/03:18
Biovoreyup.. a directory listing with a file blah.txt or something..03:18
jeffmitchellok thanks Biovore: one of my friends on kopete also confirmed this. i'm done here, cheers :-)03:19
underdog5004jeffmitchell, looks good to me, I'm on the West Coast of the US03:20
_beata_Missed a line.03:20
_beata_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33881/03:20
Biovore_beata_: it looks like its not assigning it via apic.. only got 16 interrupts..  apic gives you more interrupts..03:22
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_beata_Er, I have apic working.03:23
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Biovore_beata_: sorry.. I read that wrong..03:23
Biovore_beata_: apic is working..03:23
_beata_Tee hee. 'does this array start at 0 or 1?'03:23
TehUniwhen running glxgears, i get 12000fps. when using compiz, only around 3000fps. is such a drop normal?03:23
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Allooshhi guys I have ubuntu and I would like to get kubuntu also03:25
Allooshhow ?03:25
DragnslcrInstall kubuntu-desktop03:25
TehUnisudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:25
_beata_I know there's a compile option about the serial driver, but I couldn't find documentation for it when I looked in linux-doc-2.6.2003:25
Biovore_beata_: not sure.. I havn't mucked with that many serial cards on a box..03:26
newtoubuntuCould anyone help me get my Wolfentein ET to work?03:26
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_beata_Awr.03:26
Biovorenewtoubuntu: I think it works kinda like Q3..03:27
Allooshthanks,03:27
newtoubuntuI know i'm in the wrong room03:27
newtoubuntupoint me in the right direction?03:27
Biovorenewtoubuntu: you download the linux patch, install it, and then copy the pak files of the cd onto the game directory..03:27
newtoubuntueverything seems to be installed and patched03:27
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newtoubuntugame loads up and everything03:28
newtoubuntujust no server list03:28
_beata_I have a serial Palm and two SGI dialbox sets, plus the occational debug console on ttyS003:28
Biovorehmm.. not sure whats going on there..03:28
newtoubuntuand i can connect to a server manualy, but then i get an empycdkey ban03:28
Biovorenewtoubuntu: hmm.. in Q3 there was a option to set your cdkey03:28
newtoubuntupb says to enter in console "/pb_cdkeyreg" but to no avail03:29
BiovoreET should have the sme option03:29
newtoubuntui'll check again03:29
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newtoubuntunope, on the option03:30
newtoubuntumaybe i'll just download Q3 or something03:31
Biovorenewtoubuntu: I played ET on linux 4 years ago.. I don't remember how it works any more..03:31
newtoubuntuyeah, it should work, but it seems alot of people are having problems with it03:32
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newtoubuntuyou think i'll have this much trouble with Q3?03:33
newtoubuntuor better yet you know of any other free FPS for ubuntu?03:34
lucaf3rrHow do I change to using Xgl as my default x-server?03:34
newtoubuntubesides Tremulous?03:34
Biovorealienarena03:35
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Biovorewww.happypenguin.com03:35
Biovorehttp://happypenguin.org/03:35
elite101hey "gnash" or flash will that be intergrated into Firefox? or only Konqueror?03:35
elite101or will i still have to download the plugin-in ?03:36
newtoubuntuthanks yeah i was on the fence with alien arena, but that's what i'll do03:36
newtoubuntuand one more question? should i upgrade to kubuntu?03:36
Biovorethere is a counter strike like clone as well03:36
elite101^?03:36
Biovorekubuntu is ubuntu with kde and not gnome.. there basicly the same thing..03:37
newtoubuntuyeah i know03:37
newtoubuntujust didn't know how to word it03:37
elite101Kubuntu is better03:37
elite101;)03:37
newtoubuntuall i needed to know03:37
elite101well thats my opinion03:37
elite101try both of them and see03:37
newtoubuntuappreciated guys, proably see me in the near future03:37
newtoubuntui'm on ubuntu now03:37
newtoubuntubut i will03:37
elite101lol03:37
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elite101why not keep both??!!03:38
newtoubuntupoint me to some reading material, or if it's that simple how?03:38
Biovoreto kubuntu just install kubuntu-desktop03:40
Biovore(to get)03:40
newtoubuntualright, how do i keep gnome as well?03:41
Biovore(sudo apt-get instlal kbuntu-desktop)03:41
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newtoubuntuwill i still be able to run everything i've acciured so far if i install kubuntu?03:44
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Biovoreyup..  you can select between gnome and kde at login.03:45
Biovorejust adding stuff03:45
newtoubuntualright, thanks again03:45
newtoubuntushall return to ask stupid question another day03:46
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casperzshadook i installed my nvidia driver and i was talkin to someone earlier about enabling it but hes not here anymore, does anyone know what to type at the terminal in order to enable my nvidia driver?03:46
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casperzshadosudo apt-get something enable03:49
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murchadhsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:51
elite101wow vista theme for firefox looks verygood and clean 5stars:*****03:51
murchadhcasperzshado: ^^^Sorry, I think this is what you want.03:51
elite101ohh sorry for getting in the way my bad!03:51
murchadhelite101: Hehe03:52
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elite101hey if u can run linux/kubuntu on Mac cant u get "wine" and use windows programs on it too?03:54
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Eeyore-Jris there a way to set a bogus printer in kubuntu ?03:55
casperzshadoim not sure i know what that did03:57
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BiovoreEeyore-Jr: you can setup a pdf printer..03:57
Biovorenvidia-glx enable?03:58
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BluesKajstill on the coffee at this hr genii, or are you on the niteshift ?03:59
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jhutchinselite101: There are a number of different ways to run windows programs on a Mac, wine works for some.03:59
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elite101lol03:59
elite101ahaha*03:59
jhutchinselite101: There have been commercial emulators for ages.04:00
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elite101okay well i dont own a mac but thought it could be done04:00
elite101lol04:00
jhutchinselite101: Running on Mac OS and OS-X.04:00
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elite101well do u have to own a "mac/linux" or will any ol'kubuntu work on a mac?04:00
jhutchinselite101: Pretty sure VMWare will run on OS-X, not sure how hosting OS-X goes.04:00
elite101lol04:00
elite101so i can run mac-osx inside PC linux?04:01
Biovorevmware for OS-X is call fusion04:01
murchadhcasperzshado: It configs your xorg-server and should allow you to select the correct driver for your card. But I'm not all that sure about the nvidia stuff. Biovore had a suggestion above....^^04:01
jhutchinselite101: I don't know about the PPC versions - some distros are dropping that, because it's extra work and there are fewer and fewer out ther.04:01
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geniiBluesKaj: I'm on my home box tryinmg to wire my cellphone to the bluetooth adapter :)04:01
elite101murchadh, why did i start WW3 again? what was it about?04:01
BluesKajaha genii ...good luck :)04:01
geniiSome progress :)04:02
jhutchinsBasically anything you can do with a computer, you can do with a Mac - for a price.04:02
elite101lol04:02
elite101no doubt04:02
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elite101ohh lol04:03
elite1011 button mouse and thats its incompatiable and stuff* and u cant build it04:04
elite101i remember04:04
BluesKajok, you experts i got a question about bad HDD sectors ...do they show up as "used or files" on the disk04:04
BluesKaj?04:04
elite101idk04:05
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BluesKajgenii, ? what do you think ?04:06
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murchadhBluesKaj: What FS, ext3?04:06
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elite101NTFS?04:06
elite101lol04:06
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BluesKajno NTFS... a friend's new install ...he won't be linux ready for a while04:07
geniiBluesKaj: I know thats how it worked (works now?) on windoze. ext I dunno, they may have a more sophisticated classification way04:07
BluesKajwe installed XP PRO, real clean ...his HDD shows 40G used on the disk04:08
BluesKajhis son's shows 8.5 with practically the same stuff04:09
BluesKajlooking at a dying HDD , maybe04:09
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murchadhBluesKaj: What are the total sizes of the partition/Drive?04:10
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BluesKaj1 partition only ,120g04:11
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BluesKajBBL04:15
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goban_whats the KDE process manager? i have a java embeded frame that wont go away04:15
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jhutchinsgoban_: ctrl-esc04:16
jhutchinsgoban_: ctrl-alt-esc if you want a window killer.04:16
goban_oh thanks :))04:16
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goban_oh wow 20 coppies of amarok running04:17
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murchadhgoban_: What does that sound like?04:18
goban_nothing, amarok wont display the GUI04:18
goban_otherwise it might sound like aphex twin :)04:18
jeffmitchellhi all, does anyone know what i can use to send files across my lan? i have a dedicated webserver with nothing attached but power and a ethernet cable. what software do i need?04:18
_beata_I may well have to rebuild my kernel.04:18
murchadhgoban_: Hehe... kill 'em all!04:19
Eeyore-JrBiovore: i need to setup a bogus hp laserjet to test a crash function04:19
robotgeekjeffmitchell: ftp server might be easiest04:19
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elite101does "sigkill" kill all prosseces?04:19
jeffmitchellrobotgeek: via apt-get??04:19
robotgeekjeffmitchell: however, there is a simple sharing option in System Settings that might be easier04:19
Eeyore-Jrso, i need to tell it, it's a parallel printer and what printer it is without being required to have a parallell port hooked up.  i suppose i could create a loop back parallel port04:20
murchadhjeffmitchell: Is the dedicated server running *nix; if so setup samba to share files.04:21
_beata_I've had a bit of trouble with samba, myself.04:22
jeffmitchellmurchadh: they're both linux systems. but my server has no GUI or monitor.04:23
_beata_Can you telnet/ssh into the server?04:23
jeffmitchellme? yes i can ssh into it.04:23
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Dragnslcrscp might be the simplest way to just copy files04:24
murchadh_beata_: Lotsa trouble or just the seriously underreported bug that came with the last upgrade [still not fixed] ?04:25
jeffmitchellscp??04:25
jeffmitchellhow about ftp/tftp/samba?04:25
elite101hey what is the program to manage Clusters? like so i can log into them and controll them from the "master node"04:25
_beata_I don't know about the bug.04:25
DragnslcrYeah, copies files across an SSH connection04:25
Dragnslcr!scp04:25
ubotuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/04:25
elite101it starts with an "M"04:25
elite101moeix i think?04:25
elite101!moeix04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moeix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
_beata_Biggest problem is I can't browse the samba server.04:25
elite101!cluster04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
elite101shoot*04:26
robotgeekopenmosix04:26
_beata_Amd it didn't like to work with windows 2000 client.04:26
jeffmitchellcool. i think i know what i'm doing now. cheers for the suggestions guys :)04:26
elite101ohh04:26
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murchadh_beata_: The bug adds a line msdns proxy = "" if the share is created/altered via konqueror, and then the samba server won't start. Removing the offending line fixes it. But to the browse - is the option enabled in the [global]  section of /etc/samba/smb.conf04:28
elite101well say i install kubuntu to the "slave" nodes what do i need for it to be connected to the master node? ssh? and thats it? or do i need to run openmosix on all of the pc's04:28
_beata_I think so..haven't touched it in a couple months. And the last time I set up samba, about three years ago with Debian, I had similar problems getting it all working.04:29
robotgeekelite101: no, you have to run openmosix on all of them04:29
elite101okay and this is the only tool i need?04:29
elite101allot of tut's out there are only using Redhat 7.104:29
elite101but i dont have 80$04:29
robotgeekelite101: i am not sure, it has been 3 years since i messed with it. sorry04:29
goban_can any phone run kubuntu?04:29
elite101lol okay04:30
nosrednaekimgoban_: maybe...04:30
nosrednaekimgoban_: but none do that i've seen04:30
nosrednaekimit would be a waste of resources04:30
_beata_Aha. I seem to not have a browse setting in [global] 04:30
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murchadh_beata_: Let me check, brb!04:31
_beata_Samba really seems to be a case of RWFM?04:31
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jeffmitchellanyone know how i grab files off a server computer which is running vsftpd via CLI? (they're both linux boxes)04:35
holycowjeffmitchell: it would be easier to use ssh04:35
holycowand scp04:35
holycowman scp and google scp examples04:35
murchadh_beata_: OK, my bad! I have a browseable = no under some of my shares but not in my global which kinda indicates that browseable = yes may be the default, but I would try adding browseable = yes to one of your shares and restarting samba to see if you can browse that share after. Worth a go.04:36
jeffmitchellerrrrr ok. i'll check that. i hate man pages :( ... maybe i'll try help.ubuntu.com if it makes no sense...04:36
_beata_I'm not able to see the samba server from the client in the browser, at all.04:36
stonedhi04:37
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robotgeekjeffmitchell: i usually use lftp04:38
stonedI am on Kubuntu AMD64 Feisty and using kde 3.5.7.  I am also using mplayer and upon playing an X-men cartoon episode it says Requested audio codec family [mp304:38
stoneder.. mp3 not found, enable it compilation mp3lib04:38
robotgeekjeffmitchell: i particularly like the "mirrir" option04:38
robotgeekmirror, err04:38
jeffmitchellis this the right syntax to connect? "scp user@host -P 1337"04:38
jeffmitchelland yes, i'm using port 1337 :D04:39
BluesKajstoned libxine-extracodecs04:39
stonedDluesKab no dice04:40
stonedBluesKaj:04:40
_beata_Chewing on smb.conf for a while now.04:40
Biovorejeffmitchell: I think thats right.. might be little p04:40
BluesKajoops sorry stoned...getting tired , I was thinking of kaffeiine04:41
jeffmitchellBiovore: i still get nothing, regardless of lower/upper case. there's no response, i just get the prompt back. what the hell am i meant to do?04:41
BluesKajmaybe I'd better hit the sack, ...nite all ..take care '04:42
jeffmitchellthe server only needs openssh-server right? or do i need something else?04:42
stonedoh hey04:42
nosrednaekimjeffmitchell: for scp, you are supposed to specify a file to transfer., and the location to put it04:43
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stonedI don't know if this matters, but the audio does work.  I get sound, however I still recieve that error message04:43
Biovorejeffmitchell: -P works here..04:43
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Biovorejeffmitchell: and need to be setup04:43
murchadh_beata_: Are smbclient and samba-common installed on the client? Is there a firewall?04:43
nosrednaekimjeffmitchell: "scp file.txt user@host:/home/user/file.txt -P 1337"04:43
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jeffmitchellyeah i think i've got it now... 1 sec...04:44
Biovorejeffmitchell: is the ssh-server listening on port 1337?04:44
_beata_Nope no firewall.04:45
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jeffmitchellyep, 1337 it is =)04:45
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nosrednaekimhow l337 of you :)04:46
greenkobolddoes anyone know if, in using bootcdwrite, and configuring NOT_TO_RAM="/home" in the bootcdwrite.conf, if that will make my home files unwritable?04:47
murchadh_beata_: Client can ping the server? Both machines using the same workgroup name? To recap; what are the OSs of the server and the client?04:49
greenkoboldi mean the home files of the livecd created04:49
nosrednaekimgreenkobold: I think that means that those files are not automatically put to ram...04:50
nosrednaekimgreenkobold: not sure though... maybe burn one and test ;)04:50
greenkoboldi'll do that. thanks, i am new to this stuff, its good to know that i am thinking reasonable stuff04:51
Mr_Sonoma!sane04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
nosrednaekimyeah... thats reasonable :)04:51
Mr_Sonomaanyone got any tips on setting up sane? (for a flat bed scanner) or a good wiki howto?04:52
holycowMr_Sonoma: just install it04:52
holycowif your scanner is supported it will be detected automatically via usb04:52
holycowif its not it won't04:52
Mr_Sonomahmmmm04:53
holycowwhat kind of scanner do you have?04:53
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Mr_Sonomanow i wonder if the scanner is dead. sane's site says its supported.04:54
CrellHi all.  If I'm compiling a fresh kernel, using git sources, what's the proper way to tell it that I'm using a dual-core system?  With the default config it didn't seem to notice that fact.04:55
Mr_Sonomaits a SCANMAGIC 1200 (whats wrote on the lid)04:55
Tomi-idleMr_Sonoma: i have a mustek 1200 and i think they're basically the same scanner. didn't get mine to work :(04:55
nosrednaekimCrell: you have to compile SMP support into the kernel04:56
nosrednaekimits an option04:56
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void_mathlol04:56
CrellI didn't do anything to the base config.  Does make menuconfig work the same with the AUTOBUILD instructions on the wiki?04:56
void_mathUbuntu servers shut down for attacking others04:56
void_mathNetwork those absos04:56
void_mathBy Nick Farrell: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 16:1504:57
void_mathClick here to find out more!04:57
void_mathMAKER OF the Open Sauce Ubuntu software, Cannonical had to shut down five of the eight of its servers after receiving reports that they were attacking other servers.04:57
void_mathKnowing that there is nothing worse than a bunch of chavish Linux servers looking for a rumble, or goading Windows computers with calls of, "Come and have a go, if you're hard enough," Cannonical decided to pull the plug.04:57
Mr_Sonomayea i think mustek makes it although i couldnt find that name on the scanner anymore but the 1200 ub plus according to the sane project site says its supported.....this scanner's been in storage for a while needed it so i pulled it out was hoping it would work.04:57
void_mathWith the offending servers out of action, Cannonical called for probation reports and found that the servers had a variety of problems.04:57
void_mathNot only had the servers not been taking their security patches, which tends to make most servers a bit aggressive. There was a marked disparity between themselves and other posher servers.04:57
void_mathA Cannonical spokesman said that it was not surprising that the servers were feeling disaffected and socially isolated. While other servers in the Linux world are regularly upgraded they had missed out because there were problems finding drivers for the network cards.04:57
void_mathThe problem has still not been resolved and Cannonical were going to talk to the server's parent community.04:57
void_mathWe guess the problem is that you can't give a server an asbo.04:57
Crellvoid_math: DO NOT FLOOD!04:57
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holycowMr_Sonoma: well plug it in and just turn on xsane04:58
holycowit will serach for it04:58
Mr_Sonomabeen there done that, that's why im askin....*sigh* oh well guess mine's in the same boat as yours =)04:58
Crellnosrednaekim: I didn't do anything to the base config.  Does make menuconfig work the same with the AUTOBUILD instructions on the wiki?04:58
nosrednaekimCrell: I haven't built a kernel in forever... I don't know... I just know you need that option in there04:59
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VinWistaUbuntu servers shut down for attacking others04:59
VinWistaNetwork those absos04:59
VinWistaBy Nick Farrell: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 16:1504:59
VinWistaClick here to find out more!04:59
VinWistaMAKER OF the Open Sauce Ubuntu software, Cannonical had to shut down five of the eight of its servers after receiving reports that they were attacking other servers.04:59
VinWistaKnowing that there is nothing worse than a bunch of chavish Linux servers looking for a rumble, or goading Windows computers with calls of, "Come and have a go, if you're hard enough," Cannonical decided to pull the plug.04:59
VinWistaWith the offending servers out of action, Cannonical called for probation reports and found that the servers had a variety of problems.04:59
VinWistaNot only had the servers not been taking their security patches, which tends to make most servers a bit aggressive. There was a marked disparity between themselves and other posher servers.04:59
VinWistaA Cannonical spokesman said that it was not surprising that the servers were feeling disaffected and socially isolated. While other servers in the Linux world are regularly upgraded they had missed out because there were problems finding drivers for the network cards.04:59
VinWistaThe problem has still not been resolved and Cannonical were going to talk to the server's parent community.04:59
VinWistaWe guess the problem is that you can't give a server an asbo.04:59
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Mr_Sonomait recognises it and gives a failed to open gt68xx:libusb:001:007 invalid argument05:00
ownerim new to the linux fam. what is some of the most important packages i should download05:00
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holycowMr_Sonoma: i don't know what aht error means, you might want to google it05:01
holycowchances are someone else had the same error05:01
holycowMr_Sonoma: my guess it's a permissions error05:01
Mr_Sonomaowner, depends on what ya wanna do05:01
holycowevery time i had a problem with scanners it was a permissions error05:01
holycowthere is a chance that udev didn't create the device node but since you detected it maybe thats a wrong guess05:01
nosrednaekimowner: whatever you need! there are so many...05:02
greenkoboldwhat are these void_math and Vin_Wista???05:02
holycowowner: the most important ones are the ones most valuable toyou :)05:02
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holycowgreenkobold: script kiddies that just learned how to click a few buttons in a visual basic app designed to do pathetic things like flood irc channels05:02
murchadhMr_Sonoma: Try running sane as root, maybe? Just to see..... I'm not recomending it long term!05:03
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Mr_Sonomamight be worth a try...hold on05:03
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_beata_I've met a scanner that will scan with scanimage but not with xscanimge.05:05
_beata_I *think* that scanbuttond will fix that though, but I haven't tried. It's a CanoScan LiDE 20 I think.05:07
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Mr_Sonomano luck05:10
Mr_Sonomasame error05:10
ownerWhat is a good p2p client for ubuntu05:10
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mecannotreadowner: emule I think05:13
greenkoboldholycow: thye' mus see, me love your nick, man |o| still about making a live cd out of my runnig distro with bootcdwrite, could anyone kindly see this output, from line 38 to 43, I have no idea of what is going on: http://paste.milk-it.net/55505:13
holycowMr_Sonoma: google the error message, thats probably the next step05:14
holycowi don't have a set of debuggin steps for scanners yet05:15
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holycowgreenkobold: no idea what that is i won't be able to help05:16
holycowsorry05:16
murchadhMr_Sonoma: Is it a usb scanner? Does lsusb show it up?05:17
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Mr_Sonomayes its a usb scanner and yes it shows05:18
Mr_SonomaBus 001 Device 007: ID 05d8:4002 Ultima Electronics Corp. Artec Ultima 2000 (GT6801 based)/Lifetec LT9385 Scanner05:18
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klobsterMy system has developed the nasty effect of hanging for 2 sec to 60 sec randomly.  I was able to pull this from the logs, but I can't decipher it.  it looks like it is getting exceptions while reading the disk? http://dpaste.com/16885/05:21
holycowsounds like the ide problem05:22
holycowi've had that with not feisty but the previous version05:22
Biovoreklobster: sata?05:22
klobsterBiovore: yeah05:22
holycowit will start scanning a cdrom ide and crash and the subsystem will be restarted05:22
stonedI am on Kubuntu AMD64 Feisty and using kde 3.5.7.  I am also using mplayer and upon playing an X-men cartoon episode it says Requested audio codec family mp3 not found, enable it compilation mp3lib05:22
holycowata1: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0x80)05:23
holycowthats exactly what i had05:23
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klobsterholycow: for me it is just while accessing the disk, I haven't used my dvd-rom drives in weeks05:23
stonedbut... the sound works and I can hear it05:23
holycowi hope my infogives you a bit to google against the bug tracker, the fixes are supposed to be in feisty05:23
stonedI still get the error message05:23
holycowyou don't haveto use your cdrom05:23
holycowit will scan the bus anyway to discover devices05:24
Biovoreklobster: Might have something to do with the sata controller..   Sata works fine here..05:24
jeffmitchellhey everyone, my FTP server isn't working. i log in as "anonymous" and use my email address as my password, but all I get is this: "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root" ... where did i screw up?05:24
klobsterholycow: ok google launchpad for cdrom subsystem ide problem crash ?05:24
holycowyeah that sounds like a good start05:25
holycowat least my confirmation will let you recognize the bug when you run into it05:25
klobsterBiovore: i thought that too, but I found someone who has the same issue with a via controller05:25
Biovorejeffmitchell: With proftp you have to setup permission for anonymous access..05:25
klobsterholycow: ok, google I can do, thanks for the input!05:26
jeffmitchelli'm using vsftpd, is it any different?05:26
holycowsure05:26
holycowjeffmitchell: check the settings in /etc/vsftpd05:26
holycowthat ftp is pretty well locked down and you need to enable a few things05:26
holycowyou will also haveto log in as a user and NOT root05:27
Biovorejeffmitchell: vsftp is alot different then proftpd05:27
holycowdon't be trying such stupid things05:27
jeffmitchelli have checked the conf file. the client machine has no write access, and it only lets anonymous users login05:27
stonedhello05:27
stonedplease help me05:27
stoned=(05:27
Biovorejeffmitchell: that sounds right..05:28
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holycowstoned:  just follow the instructions and install the codecs anyway05:28
stonedI am on Kubuntu AMD64 Feisty and using kde 3.5.7.  I am also using mplayer and upon playing an X-men cartoon episode it says Requested audio codec family mp3 not found, enable it compilation mp3lib, however the audio still works.  I have sound05:28
stonedholycow: i did05:28
stonedholycow: all of them are installed05:28
Biovorejeffmitchell: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html05:29
stonedI don't understand why I am getting this error, alongside audio as well.  the video is fine, audio is fine, in sync, but still I get this error message05:29
holycowoh you are using mplayer05:29
holycowah you will haveto recompile to enable that05:29
stonedbut i have audio in the file i am playing as well as video05:30
holycowthats only there because some dipshit that encoded it used some weird codec05:30
stonedit runs fine!05:30
holycowdownload another xmen thats encoded differently05:30
holycowor05:30
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holycowuse totem instead05:30
Biovorestoned: the avi file has the wrong codec code on it.. mplayer is probably making a guess and getting it right..05:30
holycowmplayer doesn't actually use the plugins that are installed05:30
holycowmplayer is its own self contained beast05:30
stonedBiovore: I have w64codecs installed05:30
stonedeverything is playable, even realmedia05:30
holycowit doesn't matter05:30
stonedand quicktime and all that05:31
holycowmplayer doesn't use any codecs you install05:31
stonedwhy?05:31
Biovore^ yu[05:31
holycowit has all its own plugin structure05:31
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holycowits not integrated05:31
Biovorewww.mplayerhq.hu05:31
holycowtotem is integrated, use that05:31
holycowor use vlc05:31
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stonedyes and i have the codecs installed05:31
Biovoretotem I think us just a front end for xine..05:31
sheldoncany good crash diagnostic apps?05:31
Biovoreapplication debugging?05:31
stonedholycow: I don't want to change my media player05:31
holycowstoned: well then i gave you the answer05:32
holycowrecompile mplayer05:32
stonedholycow: I don't want to use a different program I want to get this issue resolved05:32
Biovorestoned: does mplayer play it fine?05:32
stonedBiovore: yes05:32
holycowor find a properly encoded video file .. .translation, don't trust windows weenies05:32
stonedI've said it many times however no one can see it05:32
Biovorewhats the issue?05:32
holycowstoned: i fricking told you the answer05:32
holycowwhat do you mean no one sees it?05:32
holycowi think you just don't want to hear the answer05:32
holycowtake it or leave it05:32
stonedapparantly you are blind05:32
stonedI am looking to understand the problem05:33
holycowi told you the solution05:33
stonedif you can't be productive, then please try not to help05:33
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holycowyou aren't even reading05:33
sheldoncsettle down kids05:33
holycow*shrug*05:33
sheldoncits just irc :)05:33
stonedBiovore: so yes, the video works fine, and the sound is good on it, its in sync, everything is as normal as it could be, except that I get this error message.  I have all of the mplayer codecs instlaled05:33
stonedBiovore: of course I can recompile mplayer, I _can_ read and did read the error message, so holycow hasn't suggested anything new or useful.  I was hoping you could shed some light on the matter05:34
klobsterholycow: found that cdrom bug, not the same.  Thanks nonetheless, i guess I'll post a bug track05:34
holycowklobster: right, it will probably be related05:34
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sheldonci have an easy question - if my computer fubars itself, (i.e. k3b brings down my whole computer after finishing a dvd) is there any tool that would help me build a good crash report ?05:35
niserhello05:35
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klobsterholycow: That thread suggested hardware issues; I hope that's not the case.05:35
holycowklobster: oh its possible05:36
Biovorestoned: I have noticed that some video I get have wacked out video and/or audio emutation numbers.   Mplayer notices that the number it states for the audio dosn't match anything in is database (mplayer -ac help) It then moves on and makes a guess based on the first few bytes of the file..05:36
holycowif you have an option, try a different hd05:36
stonedBiovore: I started the mplayer in console and I did not recive the message, but it all works05:36
stonedVIDEO:  [DIV3]   320x240  24bpp  30.000 fps  462.4 kbps (56.4 kbyte/s)05:36
BiovoreI run mplayer on the console all the time..05:36
stonedBiovore: usually I browse inkonqueror and click :)05:36
Biovoreyou can also to vidio filters on the video from the console..05:37
stonedhmm I wonder if it is because I have artsd turned off05:37
Biovoremplayer <filename> -vf softblur,fspp05:37
BiovoreI don't use artsd05:37
stonedneither do I05:37
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BiovoreI do have mplayer using alsa though..05:37
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stonedok05:38
stonedI get this error in gmplayer then05:38
stonednot mplayer05:38
Biovoremplayer -vf help  <-- list of video filters and deinterlacers..05:38
Biovoregmplayer is a graphical font end for mplayer..  could pass some weird command line option..05:38
stonedfrom cli it is fine, but if i launch the video by clicking in konqueror ont he file icon, it gives the error message05:38
Biovorekmplayer also might be an option..05:38
BiovoreI have used that alot and it seems to work fine..05:39
stonedI like kplayer05:39
stonedI don't know if it is even developed anymore05:39
speaker219omg stoned05:39
stonedthe only place I know of is Christain Marillat05:40
stoneddebian multimedia05:40
stonedunless I compile from source05:40
stonedspeaker219: ?05:40
stonedI would use vlc no problem05:40
Biovorekmplayer is in the ubuntu repos..05:40
stonedexcept, that you can't scroll through the video with mouseplayer05:41
stoneder.. mouse wheel05:41
stonedyou know, forward, rewind using mousewhell back/forth05:41
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Biovoreor single step frames with .05:41
stonedif you could do that in vlc video I would use it fultime05:41
stonedyes that too05:41
stonedespecially when you want to see some celebrity camel toe05:41
greenkoboldthere seems to be a file here that is not aceessible to the super user. mkisofs: Permission denied. cannot open '/sys/module/sbs/parameters/capacity_mode' how can i allow root to open it?05:41
Biovoremplayer is kinda cool.. because if it can play it.. you can use mencoder to re-encode it..05:41
stonedI mean.. ahem, stuff05:41
stonedyup05:41
BiovoreThats how I rip dvd;s05:42
stonedproblem is05:42
stoneddvd drive is inmy pc on linux05:42
stonedwhile easy to use softwoare is on my windows box05:42
stonedI just use my windows box to rip dvds on the network05:42
stonedit takes a long time but hey whatever05:42
BiovoreI have it all setup here.. In linux I can rip the vob then split the process onto multipule computers for encoding.. takes me 30 mins to do a 2 hour movie.05:43
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Biovorethats with 2 pass x26405:44
Biovoreand filters05:44
holycowlol so its you who is encoding the videos with shit codecs05:44
holycowlol05:44
holycowwell ain't that ironic05:44
Scorpaenhey folks05:45
holycowjust buggin ya :)05:45
Biovoreman.. x264 rules :-)05:45
holycowmight be easier to check your encoding settings05:45
Scorpaeni need to install kernel 2.6.18 on Gutsy -- where do i get it?05:45
Biovoreonly thing that comes close is xvid05:45
stonedBiovore: i'd just ignore the morons online05:45
BiovoreScorpaen: err why?05:45
stonedx264 is grand05:45
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ScorpaenBiovore: i need Vmware Workstation to run :(05:46
BiovoreScorpaen: I don't think it will work..05:46
Scorpaeni start school on the 22nd05:46
ScorpaenI need a working XP05:46
BiovoreScorpaen: and vmware work station works with out 2.6.1805:46
ScorpaenBiovore: how??05:46
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BiovoreScorpaen: you need to install the kernel headers and dev tools..05:46
holycowwhy do you need a new kernel for vmware workstation?05:46
BiovoreScorpaen: then run the vmware-config.pl script.05:46
holycowit will just co,mpile everything against your current one05:46
ScorpaenBiovore: done that05:46
BiovoreIT will build the kernel modules for your kernel..05:46
Scorpaenit won't compile vmmon05:46
Biovorewhat error?05:46
holycowdon't be installing an dcompiling a  new kernl unless you know how05:47
Biovorejust modules05:47
Scorpaenholycow: i came from Gentoo. i'm used to this crap05:47
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holycowScorpaen: ah, well then, have fun :)05:47
holycowi won't have any usefull info for you unfortunately05:47
Scorpaenhrm05:47
Scorpaenholycow: do you have workstation 6 working on gutsy?05:47
BiovoreScorpaen: I am running vmware here on feisty.. no problems..05:48
holycowgutsy?05:48
Scorpaenif someone has it working, please let me know05:48
holycowwhats wrong with you05:48
Scorpaenyeah05:48
holycowgutsy is beta05:48
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Scorpaenoh man05:48
holycowyou shouldn't expect beta software to actually work05:48
holycowlol05:48
Biovore2.6.20-15-generic05:48
Scorpaenlol05:48
Scorpaeni know05:48
Scorpaeni um05:48
holycownot only is it a beta05:48
Scorpaeni dunno why05:48
holycowits a beta of a beta05:48
Scorpaeneverything works but VMWARE05:48
Scorpaen:(05:48
Biovoreholycow: have they got to RC1 yet?05:48
holycowubuntu freezes off of debian unstable which is alpha to begin with05:48
holycowBiovore: i haven't bothered checking05:48
Scorpaenoh man05:49
holycowScorpaen: so what are you running, gutsy?05:49
Biovoreok.. same page here.. don't care untill its done..05:49
Scorpaenwhat have i done05:49
kazuma_heelp05:49
kazuma_please05:49
Biovore!ask05:49
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:49
Scorpaenholycow: AMD 2800+ Barton core, 2.5 GB ram05:49
holycowScorpaen: you installed build-essential and kernel headers?05:49
kazuma_how may i install a 3D animated wallpaper in kubuntu feisty xD05:49
Scorpaenholycow: let me make sure05:49
Scorpaenbrb05:49
holycowkazuma_: you don't05:49
kazuma_yeah05:49
kazuma_i can05:49
CrellOK, so I'm trying to do a kernel build using make menuconfig.  When I do so, however, I get a long list of errors in scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h and similar files.  This is with a fresh kernel.org tarball.  Any ideas what that could be other than a busted kernel.org download?05:49
holycowkazuma_: that doesn't exist yet here05:49
Crell(The tarball unpacked fine.)05:49
kazuma_yes dudde05:49
kazuma_check05:50
kazuma_in youtube05:50
holycow3d animated wallpaper?05:50
kazuma_there's a guy05:50
holycowno no it doesn't05:50
kazuma_that has animated 3D05:50
Biovorekazuma_: technicaly you can.. but its a program that runs in the background..05:50
kazuma_wallpaper05:50
holycowthats definately not a 3D ANIMATED WALLPAPER05:50
kazuma_yeah?05:50
kazuma_how do i do that?05:50
holycowits one of two things05:50
kazuma_chek05:50
kazuma_http://youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI05:50
holycowits either beryl05:50
Biovoreyou need the program that does that..05:50
kazuma_check that link05:50
holycowor its a movie playing on the desktop under e1405:50
kazuma_and you'll see05:50
kazuma_no dudde please check :P05:50
holycowoh for fucks sake05:51
Biovoreok I see.. he running glmatrix in the background..05:51
holycowgoddamnit thats beryl05:51
holycowlike i told you05:51
kazuma_but05:51
Biovorenot a wallpaper.. its a screensaver on the desktop..05:51
holycowplease try and read when nice folks actually try to answer you05:51
kazuma_how do i make that dude05:51
kazuma_sorry holycow05:51
kazuma_thanks for the help05:51
holycowthats just a plugin for beryl that plays the screensaver in the background05:51
kazuma_yeah?05:52
Biovoreinstall gkmatrix screensaver05:52
Biovore(glmatrix)05:52
holycowthats just the gl matrix screen saver05:52
kazuma_=o05:52
Biovoreyup05:52
kazuma_in konsole right?05:52
holycowinstall beryl, configure it, run th eplugin and like biovore said make sure you have that screen saver installed05:52
Biovorewell that will pop it open in  a window05:52
Biovoreif glmatrix is installed05:52
holycowbut i'm warning you, beryl is not supported well under kubuntu05:52
kazuma_=o is ee05:52
kazuma_i have beryl05:52
Biovoreits a hacked and pray it works thing..05:52
holycowlol exactly05:53
kazuma_and i have the desktop05:53
kazuma_but i just want05:53
kazuma_the screensaver05:53
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kazuma_how do i install that matrix theme?05:53
holycowwell we gave you the steps05:53
holycowgoogle the rest05:53
holycowits easy to find information05:53
kazuma_well thanks05:53
kazuma_im really new here05:53
holycowit's okay, i'm easily exciteable05:54
Biovorelol05:54
holycowwhich is a good and bad thing05:54
BiovoreMoo05:54
klobsterOOC, what is the most resource intensive screensaver you can install?05:54
Biovorethere are a couple..05:54
holycowprobably but on beryl it should all be rendered on the vid card05:54
holycowso you shouldn't notice it at all05:54
holycowif you started encoding dvd's then you would see a hit05:55
klobsterholycow: read errors on a recently written file.  I'm nervous now.05:56
holycowklobster: backup everything immediately05:56
holycowyou really only need /home05:56
klobsterholycow: I have never seen the "encoding dvd's" screensaver05:57
Scorpaenholycow: somewhere along the way build-essential got uninstalled. i dunno how. but i just booted XP05:57
Scorpaenthanks holycow05:57
holycowklobster: no i meant if you started to encode at the same time as running this05:57
holycowexample workload05:57
Scorpaennow, if that pesky shared folder works, i'm in business05:57
holycowScorpaen: thank you for listening to those that try to help05:57
holycowit makes a big dif :)05:57
Scorpaeni start school on the 22nd for my BS in IT05:57
klobsterholycow: I am fully backed up, but this is a fairly new drive, oh and Biovore, it isn't sata, it's pata, as my sata crashed hard and i had to get a new one.05:57
Scorpaenthey make me use windows xp05:57
holycowklobster: sweetness, yeah new hds are designed to fail like that05:58
holycowi run through hds regularly, brand new ones too05:58
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klobsterI have an old drive, 6 GB, still going strong, but these new ones...05:59
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klobsterholycow: perpendicular access better be a dream come true06:00
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holycowklobster: oh one of those?06:00
holycowhaha06:00
holycowneato06:00
holycow1 terrabyte one?06:00
Scorpaenholycow: OMG. my shared folder works!06:00
Scorpaenholycow: you da man06:01
Scorpaen:D06:01
holycowScorpaen: you are welcome06:01
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Scorpaenholycow: for your info, i used the vmware-any-any-113 update06:01
holycowgood luck in your studies dude, just make sure you are always having fun06:01
Scorpaenit's a patch for new kernels06:01
holycowScorpaen: aha oh i forgot that right06:01
holycowright right, totally forgot06:01
holycow*nod*06:01
Scorpaeni'm running 2.6.22 latest on Gutsy. generic06:01
Scorpaeni tried rolling my own on gutsy, didn't wokr06:02
Scorpaenlol06:02
Scorpaenthis is not gentoo06:02
Scorpaeni keep telling myself06:02
holycowScorpaen: i run only dapper lts, but i run i.t. so i need predictability06:02
Scorpaengentoo got me hooked on bleeding edge06:02
Scorpaenheh06:02
Scorpaenbut i got tired of waiting on KDE to compile06:02
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holycowgentoo is cool, but yeah thats exactly it06:02
holycowi'm waiting to see what barcelona turns out to be like06:03
Scorpaenvmware 6 is impressive06:03
Biovoreyup.. I have it running here..06:03
Scorpaenmy USB 2.0 scanner works inside it!06:03
Scorpaeni dunno how they managed that, but my scanner had been collecting dust for a few years06:03
Scorpaenwaiting on them to make it work06:03
holycowwell its just a usb bridge06:04
holycowany usb device will work under vmware06:04
holycowmeaning it will talk to the guest os as long as your modules are compiled06:04
holycowits up to the drivers to just do their stuff after that point06:04
holycowyou aren't perhaps running vista?06:04
holycowlol06:04
holycowi'm kidden06:04
Scorpaenholycow: you couldn't pay me to run vista06:05
Scorpaeni deal with that at work06:05
Scorpaeni'm helpdesk tech for a local ISP06:05
holycowlol i keep on hearing about that06:05
Scorpaenthat and norton. grrr06:05
holycowoh no kidding?06:05
holycowtell me about your experience :()06:05
Scorpaenman, mix those two plus an idiot at the wheel06:05
Scorpaentrouble, man. trouble06:05
holycowyou must have a really good perspective on vista06:05
holycowreally eh?06:05
Scorpaenyeap!06:05
Scorpaenit messses up their email06:05
holycowi'm switching everything except accounting and hr here to linux06:05
Scorpaenthe pop/smtp proxy06:05
Scorpaenbrb, changing laundry out of the washer to the dryer06:06
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robotgeeksame here, my servers run ubuntu dapper lts and another older debian machine at work.06:06
robotgeekall our desktops are XP though06:06
holycowoh i should be more specific all servers are debian, running ubuntu as a server is insane06:06
robotgeekholycow: why?06:07
holycowrobotgeek: *nod* we have been under this change process for 2 years so it takes time step by step06:07
holycowrobotgeek: because ubuntu freezes off of debian unstable06:07
Scorpaenholycow: i admin my brother's mail/web server06:07
Scorpaenit's Gentoo06:07
Scorpaeni built it back in 200406:07
holycowand they can only patch up a small subselect of packages from there06:07
Scorpaenbeen running the same install, with upgrades, for 3.5 years06:07
robotgeekholycow: yeah, that is true. i got lazy :)06:07
holycowbasically your running latest alpha untested crap06:07
Scorpaeni switched to linux in march 200406:08
Scorpaenhad my last bsod with xp06:08
holycowi would rather have 18 000 packages FULLY tested available to my fingertips, even if its a bit slower06:08
Scorpaenheh06:08
holycowthe other thing thats wrong with ubuntu is that their release schedule is insane06:08
robotgeekholycow: but, that machine does not accept connections from outside our network, so we are okay06:08
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klobstergentoo mailserver: because _my_ email needs to arrive 0.0000003 ms faster.06:08
holycowi can't keep up with that, i can't test releases every 6 months or even every year06:08
holycowfor a server thats just stupid06:08
Scorpaenklobster: it WORKS06:08
robotgeekholycow: no, LTS is 5 years06:08
holycowthats support but its still not good enough06:09
holycowits only support for how many packages?06:09
holycow2000 or less?06:09
Scorpaenklobster: i'm not here for a distro war06:09
Scorpaen:)06:09
robotgeekholycow: well, main. that works for me :)06:09
holycowof what use is that really?06:09
klobsterScorpaen: I am sure it does, I just like to poke fun at masochists06:09
Scorpaeni'm just telling you what works for me06:09
holycow:)06:09
Scorpaenthe reason i chose Gentoo back in '04 was i had friends who were using it06:09
holycowrobotgeek: thats the beautiful thing about choice :) i'm just stating mine :)06:09
klobsterScorpaen: no wars, just being friendly, nothing insulting intended06:10
Scorpaenok06:10
Scorpaen:)06:10
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robotgeekholycow: sure, all valid reasons. i see your point.06:10
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Scorpaenholycow: what kinda work do you do?06:10
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holycowi have a fancy title but in the end its like your job, i run our i.t. dept06:10
Scorpaeni'm a 32 year old helpdesk tech. that's why i'm going back to school06:11
Scorpaenlol06:11
holycowits ALL fucking helpdesk06:11
holycow:)06:11
ScorpaenLOL06:11
holycowoops sorry06:11
holycowhehe06:11
holycowshouldn't swear06:11
holycowwhat do you want to do?06:11
savetheWorld"helldesk speaking, How may we hell you?"06:11
holycowi'm same age06:11
Scorpaenholycow: i'm going for BS in IT, network admin06:11
holycowsweet06:12
Scorpaeni'd like a network admin position06:12
holycowyeah thats fun06:12
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Scorpaen:)06:12
holycowwell your running gentoo, that basically qualifies you in terms of personal interest06:12
Scorpaenholycow: yeap06:12
robotgeekanybody else not having kopete connect to google talk?06:12
Scorpaenbut i'm on gutsy for my desktop06:12
Scorpaenyou wanna hear something crazy?06:12
holycowwhats that?06:12
Scorpaenmy neighbor is a 60 year old vietnam vet right?06:12
Scorpaenknown him for 11 years06:13
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holycow*nod*06:13
Scorpaenhis machine is running Gutsy now06:13
Scorpaen:o06:13
holycowlol you bastard06:13
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holycowwell thats cool06:13
Scorpaeni admin it of course06:13
klobsterI love helpdesk work, I just wish it paid more; i would be doing it now06:13
robotgeek!language06:13
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:13
Scorpaenhe's liking it06:13
Scorpaensee his xp machine crashed06:13
holycowwe have found out people actually can't tell the difference between system06:13
holycowall they object to is change in and of it self06:13
Scorpaenhis hard drive filled up06:13
Scorpaenso i put a 40gb on there06:13
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holycow*nod*06:13
Scorpaenand snuck in Kubuntu for him06:13
Scorpaenhe's kewl with it06:14
Scorpaenbut he has GUNS06:14
holycownice06:14
Scorpaenso i amke sure it runs nice06:14
holycowheh06:14
Scorpaenheh06:14
Scorpaenin return, he watches over my trailer while i'm at work06:14
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Scorpaenand feeds my cat06:14
Scorpaenhe's my bro06:14
holycownice06:14
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Scorpaeni have a photo of him somewhere06:14
holycowin the end its about freedom06:14
Scorpaeni'l show you sometime06:14
holycowthe kind of freedom that he fought for06:14
Scorpaenyeap06:14
holycowthats something he can understand06:14
Scorpaeni respect that06:14
Scorpaeni tried to join up..06:15
Scorpaen..but i'm bipolar06:15
Scorpaenthey won't take me06:15
Scorpaen:P06:15
holycowlol oh your going to be one of those 'fun' system admins06:15
holycowlol06:15
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Scorpaen*Evil grin*06:15
Scorpaen:P06:15
Scorpaennah man06:15
Scorpaeni take my meds regularly06:15
holycowi can see the attractio nto admining yet again06:15
holycowhaha06:15
Scorpaeni'm good06:15
holycowi kid dude06:15
Scorpaen:)06:15
Scorpaenholycow: you are alright bro06:16
Scorpaenlaughter keeps us sane at work06:16
Scorpaenthey all know i'm on meds06:16
holycowas long as a noob isn't talking to me, that just pisses me off06:16
Scorpaenwe joke about it06:16
holycowhehe06:16
Scorpaenhey06:16
Scorpaeni can stand stupid06:16
Scorpaeni just can't stand stupid with an ATTITUDE06:16
Scorpaenyou know what i mean?06:16
Scorpaenand i get htat a LOT at work06:16
robotgeekhmm, maybe we should move the offtopic talk to #kubuntu-offtopic06:16
Scorpaencustomers06:16
holycowactually that describes it perfectly06:16
holycowi think robotgeek is right06:16
Scorpaenok robotgeek06:16
Scorpaensee you there06:16
p-fIs there a tool that would allow me to synchronize some application settings (amarok, pidgin, kde and opera amongst other things) between my main workstation and my laptop? I guess I could always use rsync, but if there is a specialized tool for this purpose I might as well use it.06:17
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holycowp-f: no, rsync is pretty much it06:17
robotgeekp-f: unison is also good06:17
holycowmake sure you have a nicely secured ssh box online and voila06:17
p-fholycow, robotgeek: alright, thanks06:18
holycowoh wait06:18
holycowi haven't looked into unison06:18
holycowi think he might be onto something06:18
p-foh sweet, it's crossplatform06:18
p-fit seems to be what I was looking for, thanks!06:19
robotgeekholycow: please join us in #kubuntu-offtopic ")06:19
robotgeekp-f: glad to help, it worked well for me06:19
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NickPresta!newline | holycow06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newline - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
NickPresta!enter | holycow06:21
ubotuholycow: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:21
robotgeekdamn, that was late :)06:21
MinusSevenI'm thinking of trying Kubuntu, I've used fedora before. What's the support like with nvidia?06:21
NickPresta!nvidia | MinusSeven06:22
ubotuMinusSeven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:22
robotgeekMinusSeven: pretty good, though right now you will have to follow instructions ^^06:22
NickPrestaMinusSeven, you tell us :)06:22
robotgeekfrom next release, it will be automagic06:23
MinusSevenOk06:23
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wckdkl0wnhttp://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb   for the newest wine what repository should i add?06:27
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klobsterBTW: I figured out how use either original or broodwar nocd's on SC06:30
klobsteroops, wrong channel406:30
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CrellIs there any reason to leave ISA compiled into a kernel on a modern system?  The "vesa" video driver is a different thing from "Vesa Local Bus" under ISA, isn't it?06:36
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CrellPlaying with the beta?06:41
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klobsterno, cutting edge is about as far as I go.06:42
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elite101i got a problem Girl on Cam no dekstop recording tool got any ideas?06:44
elite101lol jk06:44
elite101but for real any desktop recording tools?06:44
geniiAny way to get rid of annoying spdp server not running notification?06:44
NickPrestagenii, start the server? ;)06:45
geniiNickPresta: The spdp server has been superceded06:45
geniiNickPresta: But kde still whines about it06:45
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coteyranyone around fimilura with postfix06:54
coteyrand procmail06:54
coteyrI have spamass marking emails as spam and I want procmail to move them to the spam folder. I can't seem to get  it setup though06:54
robotgeekcoteyr: uggh, i messed with it once. soupofnuts.com has a tutorial, i think06:55
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arun_hello06:56
coteyrrobotgeek bad link?06:56
robotgeekcoteyr: http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html sorry06:56
coteyrahh06:57
coteyrthanks06:57
elite101anyone know where i can get a program to txt ppl from there cellphones on my computer?06:57
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elite101o_006:57
elite101anyone i heard of a program that can do this too it was online based06:58
Tabmowelite101: a program? you mean when you have your cellphone connected also?06:58
elite101no06:58
elite101like i can type in the # and then the txt06:58
elite101and hit send06:58
elite101so my computer imitates a cell06:58
jcs7778I just installed kubuntu onto a system which has network drivers i needed to install manually by compiling them and modprobeing them. But they don't seem to stay loaded ive had to open up a terminal and re modprobe them each time i reboot, this is starting to get annoying, ive had similar situations on other systems and normally i just need to modprobe them once.06:58
Tabmowumm, I haven't looked into it but I am pretty sure such program doesn't exist06:59
elite101yeah06:59
elite101i had one for my psp it was in a flashportal of winxp06:59
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coteyrelite101: they exist, look for sms gateqay or sms server07:00
coteyrbeyond that your on your own07:00
coteyrgateway*07:01
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elite101yeah07:01
elite101i found a couple websites07:01
evjunior09Question. If i wanna buy a webcam, how do i get it set up on linux? I just want it for stickam.com07:01
underdog5004jcs7778, you can have that command (modprobe module_name) when the computer first boots, everytime...07:01
underdog5004!rc07:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:01
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underdog5004jcs7778, you can probably put it in a script and add it to ~/.kde/Autostart07:02
coteyrrobotgeek; good tutorial on postfix + fetchmail, i guess what I really need is help with procmail. got any links for that (the ones I have found on google I just can't make sense of)07:02
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elite101http://www.somaliaonline.com/sms/index3.php?gclid=CMKv2t-f-Y0CFQ1dPgodxiVJLw07:03
elite101is that real?07:03
robotgeekcoteyr: sorry, i dont remember.07:03
elite101it looks fake like they can get ur msg's07:03
coteyrthanks anyway07:03
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evjunior09If i wanna buy a webcam, how do i get it set up on linux? I just want it for stickam.com07:04
evjunior09Like, i know Linux isnt supported on the box of any webcams07:04
coteyrevjunior09: you plug it in and pray07:04
coteyror you could google it first07:05
evjunior09Are you serious. thats all i can do?07:05
evjunior09well i found website, but its confusing07:05
evjunior09Do you wanna check it out?07:05
evjunior09http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/~mdille3/doc/linux_cameras/07:05
speaker219Did you know that linux is not not cool!?!?!!?!??!!?!??!!?07:06
flaccid!webcam > evjunior0907:06
klobsternot not cool?07:06
speaker219yes!!!07:06
coteyrhttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/07:06
speaker219!webcam07:06
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras07:06
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speaker219!webcam > speaker21907:07
surgy#crystalspace07:07
surgysorry :)07:07
robotgeekevjunior09: i know for sure that the A4 Tech, A 985 works with Kubuntu :)07:07
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evjunior09robotgeek: whats the maker?07:08
robotgeekevjunior09: a4 tech07:08
evjunior09oh.07:08
evjunior09where did you buy it at?07:08
klobstermy phillips pixel plus works (it;s a cmos ; 0)07:08
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arun_does anyone here use the luxi sans font family07:08
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flaccidis there even 1 webcam maker that provides a *nix driver?07:09
coteyrthere are webcams that work07:09
coteyribm cams07:09
flacciddoes ibm provide the driver?07:09
coteyrum my finepix work (no they don't)07:10
coteyrbut the finpix is digi so if you just want the webcam then...07:10
flaccidyeah im talking about where the vendor writes and provides the driver..07:10
flaccidie. support for linux07:10
flaccidthat is by the vendor07:11
coteyrdoes any hardware provide that except nvidia/ati?07:11
flaccidyep07:11
coteyrwho?07:11
coteyrdont answer07:11
coteyri will lok07:11
coteyrlook07:11
flaccidvarious makers of peripherals eg. samsung07:11
Daisuke_Laptopintel, for one07:12
coteyrhmm07:12
robotgeekevjunior09: newegg07:12
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greenkoboldin using bootcdwrite to make an image from a running ubuntu install, the final disk is a live cd or not?07:14
evjunior09So if i was just to go out and buy a "Logitech" webcam, if i plug it in, will Kubuntu Fiesty 7.04 reconize it?07:14
Daisuke_Laptopdoubtful07:14
Daisuke_Laptopthat was to greenkobold, not evjunior0907:15
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Wiggleshi07:15
TheCreationistDoes anyone know how I can convert the audio from .mpg video files into mp3?07:15
evjunior09Daisuke_Laptop: Yeah i figured that, since it was sent about the same time i sent it,07:15
Wigglesi installed the kde4 beta 1, but i can't figure out how to use it07:16
Daisuke_LaptopTheCreationist: mencoder.07:16
robotgeekevjunior09: no, dont get logitech!07:16
arunkaleDaisuke_Laptop: how does it work? does it work with DAT (video cd) files as well?07:16
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evjunior09Robotgeek: well i need one that is Nice, and...cheap. haha. and i can get it at a Target/Wal-mart/Best buy.07:16
Daisuke_Laptopsince they're just mpeg-1 files, it should be exactly the same07:17
greenkoboldI got this anwser at #Debian07:17
greenkoboldgreen: if you were on debian, it would.  no clue about ubuntu. (about bootcdwrite making a livecd or not)07:17
TheCreationistDaisuke_Laptop: What command do I use?07:17
Jack3any you guys worked at circuit city ever?07:17
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Wigglescan anyone help?07:18
robotgeekevjunior09: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682612301007:19
Daisuke_LaptopTheCreationist: dunno, you just asked what could do it :)07:20
Daisuke_Laptopi hate saying this, but the man page is pretty helpful07:20
TheCreationistDaisuke_Laptop: You have any idea how long mencoder's man page is?? lol07:20
greenkoboldif bootcdwrite makes a live cd in debian, will it make it also in ubuntu?07:21
TheCreationistDaisuke_Laptop: I've been trying to find info on a simple extraction...07:21
underdog5004jcs7778, just so you know, you can also put the command in rc.local07:21
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TheCreationistDaisuke_Laptop: 5,918 lines07:21
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Daisuke_Laptopyes, but there are a lot of blank lines, a lot of info lines.  welcome to linux, you do have to read.07:22
Daisuke_Laptop:)07:22
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jcs7778i actually found a good solution i put the command into /etc/modules, or something, it was a config file and it seems to work fine07:23
underdog5004jcs7778, col07:23
underdog5004erm, cool07:23
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evjunior09robotgeek: Man thats a nice one. but i dont have a credit card, i need one to buy at a store. (i.e. Best Buy, Walmart, Target)07:24
kazuma_hi all07:24
kazuma_i have a problem with beryl xD07:24
Daisuke_Laptop#ubuntu-effects07:25
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kazuma_when i spin the cube i can only see one face the others are invisible or something like that07:25
kazuma_why07:25
robotgeekevjunior09: well, try anything but a new logitech is my suggestion. see if you can find anything on the list from the support hardware07:25
NickPrestakazuma_, what do you mean the other sides are invisible?07:25
kazuma_well, i'm working in the desktop and when i wanna turn the other is in blank, and i can't do anything07:26
kazuma_i just see the backside of the other desktop07:26
kazuma_it's a cube with one window xD07:26
NickPrestakazuma_, play around with the Desktop Cube configuration options. Perhaps you only have 1 desktop or there are transparency issues?07:26
kazuma_how do i put another desktops07:26
evjunior09robotgeek: i was thinkin this. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5750839 even tho it dosent say Linux07:26
kazuma_cuz' i tried to put the others07:26
kazuma_and nothing happened dude07:26
robotgeekevjunior09: check the wiki07:27
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robotgeek!webcam > evjunior0907:27
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Daisuke_Laptophttp://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=539245107:28
evjunior09robotgeek: it dosent say anything about my webcam07:28
robotgeekevjunior09: well, that might be cause it does not work :)07:28
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evjunior09Daisuke_Laptop: will that work?07:29
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kazuma_help me please07:30
flaccid!ask07:31
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:31
surgykazuma state your question07:31
surgyclearly07:31
Daisuke_Laptopevjunior09: in theory07:32
evjunior09w00t.07:34
flaccid!help07:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:35
klobstersure, !help, but:07:35
klobster!kazuma07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kazuma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
speaker219Kay Ooh Boon too07:38
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ardchoilleI thought it was  koo-BOON-too07:40
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underdog5004I pronounce it koo-BOON-too too07:40
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flaccidhackbuntu07:42
flaccidis the server edition :p[07:42
klobsterkuh-bun-tuh07:42
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kazuma_yuhuu07:44
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kazuma_beryl restoreeed xD07:44
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flaccidi get a stupid window manager already in use thing with beryl on kubuntu - as do many people and no real solution07:45
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kazuma_there is an easy way to fix beryl, erase the files hahaha xD07:49
kazuma_then you can start over xD07:49
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whizadreehey is this server slow today07:50
whizadreeit keeps login me on then pauses then d/cs timeouts07:50
whizadreelag is hmm lonnng07:50
ardchoille!menu07:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
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ardchoilleWhat's the name of that alternate menu for kde?07:51
ardchoillekbfx.. that's it07:52
NickPrestaardchoille, kbfx or kickoff07:53
NickPrestaardchoille, I hate kbfx. Kickoff is much nicer07:53
ardchoilleNickPresta: Yeah, found kbfx07:53
ardchoilleNever heard of kickoff07:53
ardchoilleNickPresta: URL? It isn't in the repos07:54
ardchoille!kickoff07:54
ubotuKickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/233107:54
ardchoilleNickPresta: How did you install kickoff?07:54
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NickPrestaardchoille, the official package name is `kicker-kickoff` and I got it from: deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty 3v1n0 AFAIK07:55
NickPrestaardchoille, http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/3v1n0/07:56
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ardchoilleNickPresta: Thanks :)07:58
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NickPrestaardchoille, no problem. I didn't like the default kmenu.png icon so I replaced it with something much nicer. Don't let the default turn you off :)07:59
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ardchoilleNickPresta: That's easy to replace.08:03
ardchoilleThis is much nicer than the default kde menu.. and nicer than kbfx08:03
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dvm  I am working on a GTK project where i have the requirement to change the SCIM language whenever user make an action(click a button) and that get effected when user types  in a text box. What is the possible way to do this?08:09
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geniiBah applied gutsy updates and froze the box totallyhard08:12
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alfatauhello: i would want to set a standby timer (or be able to choose when to standby) on 2 of the 4 hard disks installed on my server. do you know how to?08:29
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Myelinhello08:34
flaccidhi08:34
MyelinI think i found a bug in the OS. Start KPPP and it gives a error for resolv.conf, which is there in /etc but spelt wrongly.08:34
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MyelinCan you confirm this?08:35
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elite101good nite its like 2:40am !!!!!!!08:39
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elite101i gotta stop staying up*08:39
alfatauhello, i want to activate standby on some hard disks on my machine. howto? thanks08:39
flaccidalfatau: don't repeat08:40
MyelinOh!sorry. How do i creat a resolv.conf file?08:40
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Cannolihey guys08:42
Cannolik so im dling ntfs resize since gparted and qtparted dont work08:42
Cannoliand niether does the partitioner in the install08:42
Cannolibut its a .rpm file08:42
Cannoliwht do i do with that?08:42
NickPrestaCannoli, where did you download it from? RPM packages aren't native and should be avoided.08:44
Cannoliuh oh08:44
Cannolilol08:44
Cannolisourceforge08:44
Cannolihttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13956&package_id=1423208:44
NickPrestaCannoli, have you tried `ntfsresize`?08:44
Cannoliand what do u mean by not native?08:45
Cannolithats wht im dling08:45
NickPrestaCannoli, using your package manager, download "ntfsprogs", which includes "ntfsresize".08:45
Cannolihow do i do that?08:45
Cannolisrry ive just started with kubuntu08:45
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NickPresta!adept | Cannoli08:46
ubotuCannoli: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:46
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NickPrestaCannoli, if you just came from Windows, you may be used to having to go around and find applications, download them and install them. That is rarely the case in Kubuntu. You use your package manager to do the work for you.08:47
Cannoliwow08:48
Cannolinice08:48
Cannoli:)08:48
Cannoliis that also the case when it comes to things like games08:48
Cannoli?08:48
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NickPrestaCannoli, if you click on your kmenu (the "start menu") and find "Add/Remove Programs", you should be greated witha huge categorized list of things you can download right now with a few clicks.08:49
Cannoli:S it says ntfsprogs is already installed :S08:50
Cannolithts crazy :)08:50
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Cannolii havent installed it08:52
Cannolibut it says its installed08:52
Cannoliwht do i do to run it :S08:52
NickPrestaCannoli, there are a vast amount of applications installed by default.08:52
NickPrestaCannoli, you can open up a Konsole and type in "ntfsresize" at the prompt08:52
Cannoliwht promt?08:52
Cannolialt+f2?08:53
NickPrestaCannoli, open up Konsole. The prompt is what you see (The flashing "box" that signifies your cursor).08:53
Cannoliah ic08:53
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Cannoliok08:54
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Cannoliso where do i find my device name :S08:54
whizadreeis there been some server probs tonight?08:54
NickPrestaCannoli, I would not attempt this without having a backup of my NTFS partition. Once you are ready to begin the resize, you can do something like this (To resize the partition to 10GB): 'sudo ntfsresize -s 10G /dev/sda5'08:54
Cannoliah ic08:55
NickPrestaCannoli, to find your device name, do this in the Konsole: sudo fdisk -l08:55
Assidhrmm im thinkining of playing with gmailfs next08:55
NickPrestaCannoli, you should see the device name (/dev/SOMETHING) for example, and it should be HPFS/NTFS under the System heading08:55
Cannoliyep found it :)08:56
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NickPrestaCannoli, I would suggest you read the man page for ntfsresize08:56
NickPrestaCannoli, to do that: `man ntfsresize`08:56
NickPrestaCannoli, out of curiosity, what doesn't work in QT/GParted?08:57
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Cannolilol the ntfs resizing08:58
Cannoli:P08:58
NickPrestaDo you get an error or anything?08:58
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MilhousePunkRockCannoli: Did you try the GPartEd Live CD? That's what I always used for partitioning (before I became familiar with fdisk/cfdisk)08:58
NickPrestaAFAIK, QT/GParted are just frontends to (c)fdisk and the like?08:58
MilhousePunkRockNickPresta: I think so too...08:59
Cannoliwell in qtparted there was no detailes menu08:59
Cannoliso not in tht08:59
Cannolibut in gparted08:59
Cannolii got an error08:59
NickPrestaMilhousePunkRock, they're actually frontends to `parted`. heh08:59
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MilhousePunkRockCannoli: I would highyl suggest the live CD.. Make sure you have defragged your NTFS drive before you try to shrink it though.08:59
Cannolii did defrag09:00
Cannolitwice09:00
Cannoli:)09:00
Cannoliand i cant get the live cd09:00
MilhousePunkRockNickPresta: But doesn't parted base on fdisk?09:00
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Cannolieither way i dont have anything important on tht drive anymore09:00
Cannolii moved everything on to a friends drve09:00
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Cannoliso im good with ntfsresize :)09:01
Cannoliand it seems to be doing its job which is good09:01
MilhousePunkRockCannoli: Can you be a little more descriptive about the error Gparted gave you?09:01
CannoliMilhousePunkRock: sorry i cant, i dont have the log file anymore.09:02
Cannoliit did have something to do with the resize09:02
Cannolithats i all i remember09:02
Cannolisrry09:02
MilhousePunkRockCannoli: Well, nevermind, if ntfsresize works...09:02
Cannoliyep09:02
Cannoliits at 2.7 on relocating data09:02
Cannoli:)09:02
Cannolii got my system of a down collection blasting so i have all the time in the world09:03
Cannolidamn09:03
Cannolierror09:04
Cannoli!09:04
Cannoli!pastebin09:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:04
Cannolihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33896/09:05
Cannoli:(09:05
Cannolithe same kind i got on gparted09:05
Cannoli:(09:05
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NickPrestaCannoli, how large is the HDD?09:06
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Cannoli25009:06
Cannoligb09:06
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Assidhrmm09:07
NickPrestaCannoli, http://forum.linux-ntfs.org/viewtopic.php?p=972&sid=6c59b2fee268172ff28e2e051c231e90#97209:07
Cannoliyes09:07
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MilhousePunkRockCannoli: That looks like it even tells you what to do: Please try to free less space09:07
Cannoliyes but how much?09:08
AssidCannoli: do oyu have windows running on that mchine? are you planning on retaining it?09:08
Cannolii have windows09:08
Cannolibut its on another drive09:09
Assidso why are you keeping this as ntfs?09:09
Cannoliso i can save my other files on it :S09:09
Assidmake it fat32 instead.. less headaches.. or ext309:09
Cannolilike my moviez and stuff09:09
MilhousePunkRockCannoli: either you make it fat32 or ext2/3 and use the windows ext drivers09:09
Assidi still dont trust the nfs-3g / write module09:10
Assidyou never know how ntfs may react09:10
Cannoliwhy cant i keep ntfs :S09:10
Assidyou can09:10
MilhousePunkRockCannoli: Why would you?09:10
Cannoliwhts wrong with ntfs?09:10
NickPrestaAssid, I have had no trouble with NTFS. I use it fairly frequently using ntfs-3g. The track record is pretty good too (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html)09:10
krautmoin09:11
AssidNickPresta: not saying its bad.. i just would rather prefer a more "stabler"09:11
Assidsystem09:11
NickPrestaAssid, of course. Using ext3 or something similar is ideal but I would still rather use NTFS over FAT3209:11
Assidhrmm k09:11
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Assidanyone here using it?09:12
MilhousePunkRockAssid: Tell me more...09:12
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AssidMilhousePunkRock: ?09:12
MilhousePunkRockAssid: gmailfs... I googled it now though, heard about it, but haven't used it... I only have about 20 kB upstream anyway...09:13
Cannolidamn09:13
Cannoliit needs a diskcheck09:14
AssidMilhousePunkRock: yeah.. so do i.. but you never know when you need something09:14
Cannolibefore i can do it agian09:14
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Cannoli-_-09:14
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Assidso would make sense mapping it around09:14
Assidalso you can alternately use it insted of mediashare etc.. to share between your friends09:14
MilhousePunkRockAssid: OTOH, I have a NAS device in the process of being set up, NFS is already working...09:14
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Assidhrmm k09:15
MilhousePunkRockstill, that is something I could put on my list... I have 4 gmail accounts, so that would make 10+ GB web space...09:15
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kjiijhi i've got a proxim wireless pcmcia card on my laptop under kubuntu09:18
kjiijlspcmcia shows thecard as yenta_cardbus09:19
kjiijwhatmodules shd i install for it to work? ifconfig doesn't show the new wireless card09:19
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MilhousePunkRockkjiij: What chipset does it have?09:21
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kjiijMilhousePunkRock: how do u find out/ its a ORiNOCO802.11b pc card09:22
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MilhousePunkRockkjiij: Did you google a bit already? I think Orinoco is a chipset, I might be wrong with that though.09:23
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kjiijMilhousePunkRock: yeah i tried to google proxim wireless.. if the modules are installed, i should be able to see my eth1 or wlan0 in ifconfig right?09:24
kjiijor do i have to bind them09:24
MilhousePunkRockkjiij: Honestly, I don't know, I use an Atheros card myself, there was not much to do manually...09:25
MilhousePunkRockkjiij: There is extensive wireless documentation on the wiki though...09:25
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kjiiji still have no idea what i should do09:28
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MilhousePunkRockKjiij was a bit unpatient, I just googled for him and found out that it's an atheros chipset...09:35
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Riddellanyone able to test amarok 1.4.7 in gutsy and/or fiesty-backports?09:38
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: I could try...09:39
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: If you guide me a little that is, of course...09:40
Tabmowsanyone installed the latest ati drivers and receive an error when running it?09:40
Tabmows./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution09:40
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: On a side note, I think the tribe CD iso images need a better naming scheme... Always gutsy-i386-desktop is confusing for all tribes and all flavors...09:41
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RiddellMilhousePunkRock: we know09:43
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MilhousePunkRockI have downloaded quite a few of them, Kubuntu and Xubuntu, needed to open them to set what flavor it was and compare the date with the news to find out which tribe... The final isos have comprehensive names though...09:45
antandouje cherche accelerateur graphique09:45
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: So how would I test Amarok 1.4.709:45
MilhousePunkRock!fr > antandou09:45
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MilhousePunkRockRiddell: Found a .deb on launchpad, is that the way to go?09:47
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Assidhrmm09:49
Assidi cant access gmailfs from kjonqueoror?09:49
RiddellMilhousePunkRock: should be in the archives09:49
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MilhousePunkRockRiddell: Backports or something? apt-get install amarok says I have the newest version, according to apt-cache show it's 1.4.6 though09:51
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dotzhi i need to find out how to get my pcmcia proxim wireless card to work on my laptop.. its detected in lspcmcia09:51
dotzbut when i ifconfig it doesn't sure anything new even after /etc/init.d/network restart09:52
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dotzare there any drivers i need to install?09:52
MilhousePunkRockdotz: Are you kjiij?09:52
dotzMilhousePunkRock: yeah.. i using another laptop to come in09:52
MilhousePunkRockdotz: Alright, I found something for you on the wiki... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsProxim09:53
dotzdo i need to use wpa_supplicant or something?09:53
MilhousePunkRockdotz: Not to make the card working in the first place09:53
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dotzoh yeah i saw that page too.09:54
MilhousePunkRockWhich card is it?09:54
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dotzok behind the card it says IEEE 802.11b PC-card model 8420-WD proxim09:55
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dotzinfront it says orinoco 802.11b pc card gold09:55
dotzi think its the 2nd one09:55
dotz8470 but mine is 842009:56
MilhousePunkRockdotz: My guess is that you might need the linux-restricted-modules09:56
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jobbe_hey, I just installed kubuntu-desktop to have a look at kde again and I had to notice that kmenu, kcontrol etc are simply empty. that means there are no panels in kcontrol, there is nothing to be selected from kmenu except the logout/user buttons and so on. Any ideas on what might be wrong?09:57
buzis the openoffice bug on tribe4 fixed? i just got a new notebook that needs xorg drivers only in gutsy (i could compile them for feisty but i'm lazy)09:57
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MilhousePunkRockbuz: AFAIK no. But you can install openoffice.org-gnome as a workaround09:58
buzthe release notes say other things suffer from the same bug?09:58
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dotzMilhousePunkRock: thanks for your help.. i plugged in another card Accton and it just work out of the box09:59
dotzMilhousePunkRock: my best bet is that my proxim card is spoiled.. the led light wasn't even on when i plug in09:59
MilhousePunkRockdotz: Yeah, might be it's just broken...10:00
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linux_user400354what in the world???? im using cups for printing. its printing in red ink instead of black from my open office writer document. i tried changing the printing settings to greyscale black cartridge and it still does the same thing10:03
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evri2why there is amarok 1.4.7 in bacport repositories? is it beta?10:36
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chxI try installing a kate plugin from source. /usr/lib/kde3/katescriptdebuggerplugin. so, la is in place. so is /usr/share/services/katescriptdebugger.desktop and finally /usr/share/apps/kate/plugins/katescriptdebugger/ui.rc10:48
chxwhat's missing?10:48
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jordi_alguien sabe como abrir una base de datos access???11:01
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jordi_estoy provando diferentes herramientas pero no funcionan del todo bien...11:02
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AranelXorg us11:06
AranelXorg using %36 mem, why ?11:06
AssidAranel: how much memory do you have11:06
AranelAssid: 51211:06
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Assid5914 root      15   0 71056  43m 5308 S    6  2.8   1:31.45 Xorg11:06
Assidi dont see it11:07
Assidits like 43MB11:07
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Assidcheck your Xorg.0.log for issues11:07
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AranelAssid: where can I find it ?11:08
Assidcheck in /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:08
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AranelAssid: ok, thanks :)11:09
Assidpastebin that log11:09
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Aranelhttp://pastebin.org/61811:11
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AranelAssid: http://pastebin.org/61811:13
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AssidAranel: your using gutsy ?!?!?11:16
AranelAssid: no. i upgraded only kernel.11:17
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AssidAranel: i see no reason for it to eat so muc ram11:18
Assidry restarting X11:19
AranelAssid: it sometimes eat much ram, not always.11:19
Assidsee which appplication triggers it11:19
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AranelAssid: i think firefox.11:21
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trekdannefirefox is evil :P11:25
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trekdannehmm does nvidia's proprietary drivers include support for AIGLX? the wikipedia article in question doesn't explain it very well -_-11:33
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jussi01trekdanne: ask in #ubuntu-effects if you dont get an answer here...11:35
trekdanneah11:35
trekdannehmm i think stdin tried to explain this to me yesterday but he seems to be afk11:36
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jussi01trekdanne: i think its a little early for him11:36
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dotz!wmv11:37
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:37
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popowHelp time of my ubuntu server is not correct. I have set it to local time by modifying /etc/defaults/rcS "utc=no" ihave install ntp and ntp simple added 1 pool to /etc/ntp.conf, then rebooted... Still my time is totally of when i type date at the prompt???11:42
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JjohnJjohn, I am just idling do you mind me using your nick??11:43
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trekdannepopow: hmm ntp is somewhat strange.. it can take a while before it works -_-11:46
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jaxon_does anyone know where do i go to change the system font n also getting rid of sounds every time i do something..thx11:49
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trekdannejaxon_: k menu -> system settings -> apperance -> fonts11:50
trekdannejaxon_: and k menu -> system settings -> notification11:51
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trekdanne*notifications11:51
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jaxon_trekdanne...thx...i have found 'system' n 'setting' but cant seem to see *notification...may be i have gone blind...but cheers though11:54
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jaxon_ah..found it..nice one11:54
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slawekhow to install update-manager 0.45.211:55
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trekdanne!find emacs12:00
ubotuFound: emacs, emacs-el, emacs-goodies-el, emacs-nox, emacs21 (and 47 others)12:00
trekdanne!find emacs2212:00
ubotuPackage/file emacs22 does not exist in feisty12:00
trekdanneisn't emacs22 is the repos?12:00
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jeffmhi all, i want to network my kubuntu 7.04 computer with my ubuntu 6.06 server (which has no GUI) what networking software should I use? NFS or SAMBA? (yes I've tried ftp and scp, but it didn't work!)12:14
MilhousePunkRockjeffm: NFS is for native Linux <-> Linux sharing, SMB is for Windows machines involved...12:15
jeffmyeah thought so, but some asshats told me otherwise. hehe, thanks :)12:16
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trekdannehmm sftp over ssh is my suggestion12:18
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trekdanneso you can use your sever remotely too, can be quite handy12:19
dylan__yay, just got lunix, not too shabby12:20
trekdanneneither NFS nor SMB should be use over a public network12:20
Assidnfs dies for me12:20
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: I use ssh for administration and nfs for file stuff...12:20
thoreauputicsshfs for secure file access over the Net12:20
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: I assumed that jeffm was referring to a private network12:20
trekdannehmm12:21
jeffmyep, i'm refering to a private network. i'm hosting a site from home :O12:21
Assidnfs dies over public network12:21
trekdanneyea it depends on how much files you're gonna transfer and such12:21
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llutznfs is easily tunneled through ssh12:21
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MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: Once I have all my music on my server (~20 GB) there will not be more than some backups or files I want to have access to on all clients...12:23
trekdanneah i c12:23
Assidokay is it normal for nfs to just break12:23
Assidi mean some small discrepency in the network.. and nfs mounts just die12:23
MilhousePunkRockAssid: No. What's the exact problem you have?12:23
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trekdannewhat's the current status of AFS btw?12:24
AssidMilhousePunkRock: its a nfs across datacenters12:25
Assidjust dies after some time12:25
Assidping response across ther servers .. 6ms12:25
Assidkinda ridiculous12:25
trekdanneAssid: "datacenter" sounds cool? care to tell me more about the setup?12:25
Assidi got some dedicated servers in a few DC's12:26
Assidall running debian -etch12:26
MilhousePunkRockAssid: Well... I am anything but an expert, I have a rather simple setup here and it works fine, setup was pretty easy too...12:26
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Assidwell most of them atleast12:26
trekdanneah12:26
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Assidso sometimes i move a domain across the servers .. maybe for load balancing or whatevcer reasons.. even backups12:26
Assidit just dies.. so i gotta stick to the likes of FTP12:27
trekdannehmm FTP does have issues with NATs :P12:27
Assidi mean i get around 10MBytes.. no problem12:27
Assidtrekdanne: dedicated servers dont use nat12:27
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Assidthey have public ip directly on them12:27
trekdanneAssid: ah right12:27
trekdannei was thinking about the core protocol rather than your setup :)12:28
jeffmhey guys, i just learnt something about servers: don't buy $50 computers from highschools! mine screwed up on me :(12:28
Assidyeah well it doesnt apply here.. since its a direct connection12:28
jeffmintermittent faults12:28
Assidheck i even get 10MBytes.. how much more do i need?12:28
Assidjeffm: those arent servers12:28
Assidthey barely make it as workstations12:29
jeffmwell, it has apache2 on it, so its a server :P12:29
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Assidjeffm: would explain why they screw up on you12:29
MilhousePunkRockCheap old rigs make nice servers for personal use...12:30
jeffmAssid: what do you mean?12:30
Assidkey word being "personal" use12:30
Assidor soho12:30
Assidim actually thinking of donating my old AMD 1800xp+12:30
Assidnot really being used12:31
MilhousePunkRockAssid: I'd take it... That's better then the machine I am on right now12:31
Assid1533mhz only12:31
popowHelp time of my ubuntu server is not correct. I have set it to local time by modifying /etc/defaults/rcS "utc=no" ihave install ntp and ntp simple added 1 pool to /etc/ntp.conf, then rebooted... Still my time is totally of when i type date at the prompt???12:31
Assidbetter than what you have now ?12:31
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Assidpopow:  wtf you doing ?12:31
popow?12:31
Assidtzconfig12:31
Assidjust run that man12:32
popowI want to put my time right12:32
MilhousePunkRockAssid: That's more than the 1.13 GHz my laptop has... Worse than the 2.0 Ghz desktop though12:32
Assidtzconfig -- sets the right time zone12:32
trekdannepopow: utc=no is evil12:32
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Urilockhelp12:32
popowoki12:32
Assidapt-get install rdate12:32
Urilockmy keyboard has messed up12:32
Assidrdate will use NTP to keep you updated12:32
popowthen if I put it back then?12:32
AssidMilhousePunkRock: its a desktop12:32
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: Not neccessarily, I think it's even needed on a dualboot system with Windows12:32
popowI mean the time i see when I run a script is uuh12:32
Assidmy lappy is actually a 1.4ghz12:33
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Assidpopow: did you install rdate?12:33
Assidsudo apt-get install rdate12:33
MilhousePunkRockpopow: Or ntpdate12:33
popownope ntp12:33
trekdannedoes windows still use local time, i thoguht the changed it ...12:33
popowntpdate is there12:33
Assidlocal time ?12:33
popowyup12:33
popowlocal12:33
popowbut could go back to utc only I want the time be correct12:34
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popowSo that when my script in the morning wrong all is fine12:34
MilhousePunkRockpopow: Type "sudo ntpdate yourcountrycode.pool.ntp.org"12:34
Assidpopow: sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov12:34
Assidor what MilhousePunkRock says12:34
popowwith utc=yes would that be fine?12:34
Assidi run my own ntp server12:34
MilhousePunkRockAssid: not a good choice if he is outside US12:34
AssidMilhousePunkRock:  there isnt a mirror per country12:35
popowLemme put back to utc and then see hold on brb12:35
MilhousePunkRockI don't think the UTC settings makes the difference there...12:35
MilhousePunkRockAssid: Most countries though12:35
Assidnot for india yet...12:35
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MilhousePunkRockpopow: Is the time difference like the difference from your local time to UTC?12:35
popowI am gmt+112:36
popowaka copnehgane12:36
popowcopenhagen ,, Denmark12:36
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popowlemme to a date in a few sec when it back12:37
trekdannethen it should be around "12:37"12:37
MilhousePunkRockAssid: I should make my own NTP server on my server too, only I haven't found a decent howto for it yet. I don't want a daemon that syncs the time to some outside server all the time, that could make my ISP angry12:37
ericrhallo iemand die me hier mee kan helpen kaffeine 0.8.3 en  kaffeine-sc-plugin 0.2.12:37
trekdanne!de12:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:37
MilhousePunkRock!nl | ericr12:37
ubotuericr: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl12:37
popowone2superuser@northstar:~$ date12:37
popowThu Aug 16 06:37:25 EDT 200712:37
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: That wasn't german...12:37
trekdanneah fail again12:37
AssidMilhousePunkRock: if you want a stratum server.. you should synch with the stratum II's atleast12:37
popowAnd my time on my laptop is 12.3712:37
Assidpopow: tzconfig12:38
MilhousePunkRockAssid: Nothing so critical here that I need the time more exact than let's say one second...12:38
Assidi told you that earlier12:38
popowoki12:38
Assidyou need to set your timezone12:38
popowthx ill man tzconfig12:38
popowthc12:38
popowthx12:38
Assidafter you set tzconfig.. use ntpdate12:38
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trekdannewhat's a Stratum II?12:39
popowAssid: cool .. tjx12:39
AssidMilhousePunkRock: i use it on one of my servers.. then i have mny other servers synch with that12:39
popowthx12:39
Assidtrekdanne: a level below stratum 1's :P12:39
trekdanneAssid: hehe12:39
MilhousePunkRockAssid: What I am looking for is probably a cronjob that uses ntpdate once a day, that should be enough. And run the server from that time12:39
AssidMilhousePunkRock: most ntpservers do that12:40
Assidlike twice a day12:40
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: Stratum is the level of accuracy a timeserver has. Stratum I is an atomic clock, Stratum II gets his time from a Stratum I and so on12:40
trekdanneah i c, milhousepunkrock12:40
Assidif you plan to use a ntp servers.. you normally synch it with stratum 212:41
MilhousePunkRockAssid: I used to run openntp (very small footprint) but that kept on syncing the time, thus keeping my internet connection alive12:41
Assidusers such as desktop users normally should use stratum 312:41
AssidMilhousePunkRock:  you need your net to die ?12:41
AssidMilhousePunkRock: then dont run a server.. just synch your time with the servers instead12:42
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popowone2superuser@northstar:~$ date12:43
popowThu Aug 16 12:42:40 CEST 200712:43
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MilhousePunkRockAssid: I dont exactly _need_ my net to disconnect, but I want to. The router is in the bedroom, all the flickering lights are not what I want at night...12:43
popowSuper all cool now12:43
popowthanks guys12:43
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popowAlways nice to have time tick correct lol12:43
popow:-)12:43
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Assidpopow: cron it12:43
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MilhousePunkRockpopow: or have it sync with the system clock every shutdown12:44
AssidMilhousePunkRock:  shutdown ???12:44
Assidi hope you mean start up12:44
MilhousePunkRockAssid: No, shutdown...12:44
popowAssid: Yup will cron it thx12:44
AssidMilhousePunkRock: why the hell would you need th right time to shut down12:44
Assidyou should have the right time when you start your machine.. not when you shut it down12:45
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trekdanneyea exactly, but it does store the right time so everything, before network, gets the right time in the startup sequence12:45
ubuntuhello12:46
trekdannehi12:46
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MilhousePunkRockHello ubuntu, how can we help you? :)12:46
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ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:46
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ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:47
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trekdannebot abuse!!11one12:47
ubuntuhey12:48
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Assidubuntu:  no one here understands you.. join that channel mentioned12:48
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ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:48
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MilhousePunkRockubuntu: You will need to join the turkish channel to speak turkish...12:48
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ubuntuyokmu trk12:49
trekdanneubuntu: /join #ubuntu-tr12:49
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Assidokay12:49
ubuntune bicim linux12:49
Assidi should really wok12:49
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: Or even better, just click on #ubuntu-tr12:49
Assidsometime now will be nice12:49
ubuntubir allahn kulu12:49
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trekdanneAssid: wok? like the food12:49
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: /j is shorter and faster than /join12:50
Assidwork even12:50
trekdanneah :(12:50
popowOki one last time thing... My time is 12:48:51 16/7/2007 according to the timestamp my perf script make, but the timestamp in /var/log/user.log says ..Aug 16 06:48:11 ??????12:50
MilhousePunkRocktrekdanne: Isn't that more a frying pan than food itself?12:50
ubuntuubuntu for running .exe file?12:50
trekdannei think the verb is to "wok" ?12:50
MilhousePunkRock!wine | ubuntu12:50
ubotuubuntu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:50
ubuntuthanks diyeyim12:52
ubuntubi ie yaramadya12:52
popowSo does than mean that somehow the syslog entreis is in utc? and how to corerect12:52
ubuntusite hata verdi12:52
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ubotuubuntu: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.12:52
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Assidman.. im sooooooooooooo damn sleepy12:52
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MilhousePunkRockpopow: If you are in copenhagen, 6 hours off is not UTC12:53
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trekdanneis the guy trolling?12:53
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Quick and dirty, like always... ;)12:53
Hobbseehehe :)12:53
Riddellfast on the draw12:53
popowoki but how come the timestamp is different in /var/log/user.log??12:53
Hobbseealthough, whether there's any help in the turkish channel, i've no idea12:53
Hobbseebut if he cant speka in english, he wont get help here12:53
HobbseeRiddell: :)12:53
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: We kept telling him !tr12:54
popowdate command returns Thu Aug 16 12:54:07 CEST 200712:54
popowas it should which is corect for my time12:54
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trekdannepopow: seems correct12:54
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: some people dont listen12:54
MilhousePunkRockpopow: 6 hours earlier than CET is EST, IIRC...12:54
popowYeah but the time stamp in /var/log/user.log is ...12:55
popowug 16 06:48:51 northstar doAll.pl[4170] : salesimportEXP 87 files where proccesed!12:55
popowAug 16 06:48:51 northstar doAll.pl[4170] : *************doAll.pl END******************12:55
Ulic83anyone who can help me getting my WiFi connection working?12:55
popow??12:55
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: By now, I have Amarok 1.4.7, but Alsa is not working properly, I assume due to standby... I will reboot shortly anyway, was there anything specific you wanted to have tested?12:56
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MilhousePunkRock!paste | popow12:56
ubotupopow: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:56
popowubotu: sure thx about pastebin but was only 2 lines12:56
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: What't the matter?12:56
popowAhh it be bot lol12:57
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MilhousePunkRockpopow: ubotu is a bot, no need to thank him...12:57
popowhehe i figured lol12:57
Ulic83just installed Kubuntu, downloaded and installed a driver for my USB wireless adapter12:57
MilhousePunkRockpopow: I triggered it, I had some lag here that made it look like you pastes more, sorry...12:57
trekdannepopow: hmm he's no feelings (yet)12:57
Ulic83the driver seems to work, but it finds no networks12:57
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: What is the chipset of the card? Is you ESSID hidden maybe?12:57
RiddellMilhousePunkRock: nothing specific, just that it installs and works12:58
popowBUt still aint it weird that date returns one time and time stamp in /var/log/user.log is different?12:58
trekdannepopow: are you sure the entry was post after you set the time12:58
popowyup12:58
popowbut i will reboot one time to make sure12:58
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: Install worked... It magically appeared in adept's list of updates...12:58
popowbrb12:58
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: it's a Ralink chipset, I'm now running Windows and it finds 3 networks, Kubuntu finds none12:59
MilhousePunkRockpopow: You can also restart the logger12:59
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: Hmm, ralink... Let me check12:59
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popowMilhousePunkRock: Yeah that would have been smarter,,, but reboot already called :-)12:59
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MilhousePunkRockUlic83: What brand and model is it?01:00
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: Sweex LW05301:01
popowReboot did the trick ... sighs relieved.... finally I am back in buisness after having reinstalled the whole system due to a damn hack... thx guys you rock!01:02
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: Did you read this already: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2901:02
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Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: I did read something about ndiswrapper, but since I found a driver for my ralink chipset I figured that would be better01:04
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: How did you install the driver?01:05
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: What does lsusb say? Does it show the card?01:05
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Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: I installed it according to the readme file, make, make install, and modprobe01:06
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: and yes, lsusb shows it01:06
dikwww.webmail.uva.nl01:06
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: And network-manager?01:06
dikwebmail.uva.nl01:06
MilhousePunkRockdik: What are you trying to tell us?01:07
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: it shows the adapter as wlan001:07
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: I would assume that's good enough...01:08
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: that's why I figured the driver was working01:08
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: but it shows no networks01:09
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MilhousePunkRockUlic83: Have you tried this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13298001:09
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Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: That method of installing the driver is totally different from the driver I downloaded01:11
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Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: so not applicable to my driver probably01:12
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MilhousePunkRockUlic83: Well, I guess it depends on the exact chipset...01:12
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Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: also iwconfig just lists wlan0 normally01:13
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: it just finds no networks01:13
MilhousePunkRockUlic83: Unlikely that ALL of them have a hidden ESSID, huh?01:15
Ulic83MilhousePunkRock: well, since Windows does recognize 3 of them I don't think they are all hidden01:16
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MilhousePunkRockUlic83: Did you google about it? If someone had the same problem, there might as well be a solution for it...01:19
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allooshhello all, I installed kubuntu last night, now my computer is not working01:24
allooshpleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee help01:24
yourself3082i also a noob01:24
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yourself3082*im s noob01:24
yourself3082*im a noob01:25
SlimeyPe1eyou're going to have to give us more information01:25
SlimeyPe1e"not working" doesn't tell us much ;)01:25
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allooshok the thing is that, last night I installed kubuntu-desktop, and now I try to start my computer and the screen is swapped01:26
SlimeyPe1ewhat do you mean by "swapped"?01:26
allooshI cant see what is ion the screen, the computer is not on because I just typed the user name and password, but I cant see anything01:26
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ubuntuhi01:26
SlimeyPe1ehit ctrl-alt-f1. Do you see anything?01:27
ubuntufirst time running01:27
allooshI can see nothing, I know that its all there but I cant see it01:27
allooshyes alt ctrl and f1 gave me black screen01:27
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SlimeyPe1eubuntu: hi01:28
allooshand now iam in the terminal, so i thinik I need to change resolutioon,01:28
allooshhow to change the resolution01:28
SlimeyPe1eyou'll need to check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file01:28
SlimeyPe1esudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:28
allooshthere is nothing in there01:29
kaminixIs there an easy way to remove an audio track from a mp4 file without changing compression or anything like that?01:29
SlimeyPe1ealloosh: erk, that'll be the problem then. Are you certain you typed the filename correctly?01:30
SlimeyPe1ekaminix: probably (for certain values of "easy"). Check out transcode and mencoder.01:30
ubuntuthis thing will run on about anything01:31
allooshyes I typed it right, how can I exit that to try again01:31
alloosh?01:31
SlimeyPe1eCTRL-X will exit nano01:31
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kaminixI mean, it's like a file within a file, isn't it? Shouldn't some program be able to just delete it?01:31
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SlimeyPe1ekaminix: no, it's a data stream within a file but yes I expect it's technically possible to delete it01:32
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allooshok now I see the file01:32
allooshwhat to do there ?01:32
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SlimeyPe1ealloosh: well, check the "device" section and make sure the correct driver is loaded (for your video card). Then check the monitor section, and then further down there is a list of display modes which kubuntu will try to use.01:33
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praecoxhey guys, is it normal and known problem OO.org doesn't work under Kubuntu Gutsy?01:34
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allooshwhat should the value be for modeline?01:34
martijn81praecox: don't know, i use koffice01:34
SeicherlBoBcan anybody tell me about getXconsole, and where i get this function?01:34
SlimeyPe1ealloosh: also, it's worth checking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are any errors (usually marked "ERROR:" followed by some text) and putting those into Google01:34
SlimeyPe1ealloosh: depends on your monitor.01:35
praecoxmartijn81, yeah, but KWord doesn't read my .doc documents in such a proper way OO.org did.01:35
ubuntuare there any games you can look at on the kubuntu 6.06 cd when you run it live?01:35
allooshthere are many values there. in general is there a comand I can use to change the resolution?01:35
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martijn81praecox: you might have better luck in ubuntu+101:37
martijn81* #ubuntu+101:37
murchadhalloosh: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at a prompt will run through a config script allowing you to choose values.01:37
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ubuntuthink i might actually like this. too bad i don't have a HD to install it01:39
allooshnow I have options cirrus, cyrix, fbdev, glint, i128, i740 i81001:40
allooshwhich one to choose?01:40
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murchadhalloosh: Which one do you have?01:40
allooshI dont know, I have intel chepset01:40
murchadhalloosh: Id try i810 first, complete the script and then type startx at the prompt. Report back. There may also be a vesa option which can be useful as a fallback.01:42
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gareth_can anybody help me with gaim, it worked last night, but now it wont01:43
gareth_i get connection errors on all my accounts01:43
ubuntuanyone know what driver i would need? i have a IBM personal computer 300Pl and it is onboard sound.01:43
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allooshrestarting01:44
alexandrosgareth: which linux distribution do u have?01:44
gareth_kubuntu 7.0401:44
murchadhalloosh: restarting what? No need to reboot if that's what you're doing.01:45
llutzubuntu: not sure, but try snd-intel8x001:45
alexandrosgareth: what is the connection error u get?01:45
ubuntuwell i don't know how to install or or where to get it.01:46
gareth_aim account says "lost connection with server: connection reset by peer"01:46
gareth_msn says01:47
ubuntuhas a crystial chip in it so i think that is the audio01:47
gareth_connection error frommm.... writting error01:47
alexandrosdoes kopete work?01:47
ubuntucrystal*01:47
gareth_nope01:47
alexandrosmaybe a firewall is messing up with it?01:48
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gareth_the msn account i can get to work if under advanced i set it to use http method01:48
gareth_but aim doesn't have that choice01:48
llutzubuntu: "sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0"01:48
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bioswordubuntu.it?01:48
bioswordplease!01:49
llutz!it | biosword01:49
ubotubiosword: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:49
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:49
bioswordgrazie01:49
alexandrosgareth_: do you have firestarter installed?01:49
gareth_not unless it installed by default01:50
alexandrosgareth_: with it you can see whether you're blocking any applications01:50
gareth_oh01:50
alexandrosgareth_: sudo apt-get install firestarter01:50
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alexandrosgareth_: once you install it, go to K-Start->Settings->Firestarter01:51
gareth_ok installed firestarter01:51
gareth_ok01:52
alexandrosgareth_: and when u open it, look at the "Events" tab and check whether you're blocking anything01:52
gareth_set it to device wlan001:52
gareth_nah it blank01:53
alexandrosgareth_: you have a wireless router?01:53
gareth_yes01:53
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alexandrosgareth_: then maybe this router is blocking01:53
gareth_i can log in and turn the firewall off01:53
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alexandrosgareth_: or just allow the ports aim and msn are using01:54
alexandrossorry01:54
h4xc0rJOIN #ubuntu-fr01:54
alexandrosi'll BRB01:54
gareth_but it shouldn't have changed since yesterday i am the only with acess to it01:54
alexandrosor BBL ,  have to go:(01:54
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gareth_oh it works again01:56
gareth_i haven't done anything01:56
gareth_but woohoo01:56
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AxisHello people01:57
echo-MaTXhi01:57
Axiscould someone tell me what is the name of the kde-package that show rss in panel?01:57
ubuntu  how do i test the sound?01:58
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Axisis there anybody there???02:00
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allooshnahello again02:00
allooshnanow I cant even reach anything02:00
martijn81ubuntu: load amarok, there should be an intro in the playlist02:01
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james42519i don't think there is anything there02:04
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murchadhAxis: Akgregator maybe? It's an RSS feed reader, whether it'll dock in the panel or not I'm not sure.02:06
alexandrosback!02:06
alexandrosgareth_: good man, Im happy for you :D02:06
murchadhallooshna: What happens after you boot the machine?02:07
gareth_hehe yeah i did nothing and its working again, i think it was my router but it hard to tell02:07
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gareth_axis goto www.kde-apps.org and search for rss02:08
gareth_there is an rss sidebar there which is pretty good02:08
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miles_ok02:14
Axisgareth_: its not exactly what i`m lookin for...02:14
gareth_nah i noticed its a superkaramba theme02:14
gareth_not a fan of superkaramba02:14
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LattywareI'm about to take 'Gareth' off my highlight list :P02:15
Axiswhen i use other distribution that goes with kde by default and could be founded in 'add applet to panel menu'02:15
gareth_haha im on a low end laptop anything fancy and it slows to a crawl02:16
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gareth_axis: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/16365/RSS-news-ticker.html02:18
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Axisgareth_: thank you very much, you use google better then me ;)02:20
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gareth_np02:20
kaminixI want aid 1 and the video to do the dumpstream from C-ute - Meguru Koi no Kisetsu (H264).mp4, how? I tried "mplayer C-ute\ -\ Meguru\ Koi\ no\ Kisetsu\ \(H264\).mp4 -aid 1 -dumpstream -dumpfile C-ute\ -\ Meguru\ Koi\ no\ Kisetsu\ \(H264\)_edit.mp4" but had no luck :(02:21
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echo-MaTXhey know anyone why Totem crashes when avi & sub are the same name ?02:24
kaminixThe audiofile I get when ripping audio only is not playable :/02:25
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Axisgareth_: maybe you also tell me about the same application docked in panel that shows weather? :)02:29
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gareth_lol not sure i've ever heard of a docked weather panel02:30
gareth_karamba theme sure02:30
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tzangergood morning; if I want to install Perl modules do I use CPAN or is there a deb repository of them to keep the package manager happy?02:31
gareth_oh wait02:31
gareth_maybe there is02:31
gareth_kweather02:31
naught101anyone know how to turn stop the volume up/down/mute OSDs from showing in kubuntu?02:32
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naught101s/turn stop/stop/02:33
craigHi all - quick qestion from a newbie. I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 Fristy Faun and am keen to upgrade to02:33
craig02:33
craigLinuxMCE02:33
craigI read in the http://www.linuxmce.org/ website that its an add-on to Kubuntu02:34
craigjust wondering how I go about doing the upgrade02:34
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naught101http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Download_Instructions02:36
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gareth_axis: sudo apt-get install kweather02:37
gareth_just installed it myself02:38
naught101damn.02:38
naught101anyone know how to turn START the volume up/down/mute OSDs showing in kubuntu?02:38
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m4st3r02:39
m4st3rhi02:39
Axisyeah, i already done it02:40
m4st3rI installed compiz-fusion on my notebook02:40
m4st3rI use kubuntu feisty02:40
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Axishm... adept could not find any applicaiton link to weather word...02:40
m4st3rbut compiz-fusion is very slow T.T02:40
Assidm4st3r: nvidia?02:41
Assid!nvidia02:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:41
m4st3rGMA900 graphic c02:41
Assidhrmm.. dunno abou tthat02:41
gareth_kweather is part of kdetoys02:41
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m4st3r??02:41
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m4st3rdo you now about that?02:41
m4st3r-_-;;02:41
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Axisgareth_: thanks again :)02:42
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Urilocki need some serious help02:43
Urilocksometimes i start up with a non-graphical login etc02:44
craigthanks naught101 for the link02:44
naught101no worries02:44
craigdoes anyone know if I can install linuxmce via a download off the net or do I have to burn to CD and install off that?02:45
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craigappears I need to install off CD over a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.0402:45
saylarhey02:45
craigthat would be a pain02:45
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Urilockis there a ubuntu section to this irc?02:46
Urilock#ubuntu ?02:46
fkmyes?02:46
fkmand many more02:46
SlimeyPe1eUrilock: yes02:46
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saylari got a question regarding the performance of compiz with emerald. apparently my laptop just gets 20 frames. it is a 3ghz, 2 GB and a nvidia gforce Go with only 64MB02:47
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Urilockok02:47
fkmUrilock: I found 6655 Channels with either ubuntu in the topic or channel name ;)02:48
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saylarsould i get more, or is it as high as it gets with that graphicscard?02:48
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trekdannesaylar: hmm not familar with composite manager. maybe you'll get more responses in #ubuntu-effecs tho02:49
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saylaroh, thx, trekdanne02:50
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alexandroshey guys is KTorrent good?02:53
alexandrosis it as fast as UTorrent?02:54
SlimeyPe1eI like it. Some people find that it hogs resources though.02:54
alexandrosoh02:54
SlimeyPe1edunno, never used utorrent02:54
berkesalexandros: its not slower then others.02:54
alexandros'aight02:54
alexandros:D02:54
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berkesbut it does indeed eat resources often. here it abuses 20% of the CPU when dl-ing fast02:55
fkmI for my part don't like the interface as much as that of azureus ;)02:55
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saylari'm using a somehow modded version of torrentflux, tf-b4rt.02:57
saylarwebinterface, support for rss feeds.02:57
saylarreally nice piece of software02:57
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trekdanneyea torrentflux is nice02:59
trekdannebut i like ktorrent too (when it doesn't crash) :P02:59
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saylartrekdanne, you know what is going on with the torrentflux homepage?03:00
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saylarapparentyl it is not even in the dns cache anymore03:00
trekdanneheh? strange03:00
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saylaryeah, that's what i thougt too03:03
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Nusclylastest ktorrent is verry fast and stable03:04
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Nusclyeven after few days of use03:04
Assidhrmm03:04
Assidi use wine + utorrent03:04
Assidbrilliant03:04
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naught101anyone here familiar with kmilo?03:07
m4st3rhey what is "Super" key?03:07
naught101and/or know if the kubuntu volume OSD is the same as the standard KDE one?03:07
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m4st3rwindow key?03:07
naught101m4st3r: I want to know that too03:07
m4st3rT.T03:07
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miles_m4st3r: yes window key03:09
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m4st3rdo not run .03:10
m4st3rT.T03:10
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Assidc-f was one of the reasons i upgraded to gutsy03:16
Assidmay not have been a very smart move.. cause now openoffice is broken03:16
Assidhehe03:16
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heroc-f?03:19
Assidcompiz-fusion03:19
heroah03:19
heroi upgraded to feisty to get emerald to work03:19
Aondonot forced to use gutsy tho hehe03:19
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goban_help my windows dont have maximize, close etc buttons :(03:21
saylarah, what is the name of the quake-like terminal again?03:21
saylaranyone knows it?03:21
goban_yanuake?03:22
saylarsomething like yakuka03:22
saylarah, thx03:22
goban_yakuake03:22
herogoban_: restart your wm03:22
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heromaybe a widget loading problem03:22
goban_i have programs i dont want to close now, how do i do that without closing03:22
herowhat wm are you using?03:23
herokde?03:23
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heroactually, i'd finish your work in those other windows first03:23
herothen logout03:23
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goban_ah fixed03:27
torusyhej03:27
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torusykul03:27
herogoban_: how'd you fix it?03:27
torusyyou take the cord and put it in the outlet03:28
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goban_new session03:29
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japaya!mozilla03:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:37
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japayadoes anyone know a good tutorial to run mozilla w32 with wine so it supports flash, rplayer, etc... I've found a tutorial about this earlier this week but lost it :s03:38
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clcarcanal en espaol03:41
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martijn81japaya: firefox supports flash03:44
andresjimun cnal en espaol03:44
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herokonqueror supports flash03:45
kaminixfor i in */*.flac ; do md5sum "$i" >> "$i".md5sum ; done <---- Any ideas how to change this to make one checksum for each directory?03:45
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kaminixAh, nm, think I got it.03:45
japayamartijn81: I know but when I tried to install the apps from adept manager to support it I just can't get the flash in FF working03:46
lewis_OH MY GOD03:46
basfrankHi everyone!03:46
japayaand then I found a how to about installing some activeX simulators and then it worked03:46
herothere is no god03:46
martijn81japaya: it should work in feisty fawn (i have it working)03:47
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basfrankI need some help with realplayer 10 and konqueror 3.5.603:49
andresjimcomo hago para ir a un canal en espaol03:49
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basfranksomeone please tell me how to integrate realplayer in konqueror. it works fine with firefox, but konqueror still uses kaffeine for rm streams03:50
japayamartijn81: so you just install FF from the adept manager and you can view flash movies etc right away?03:50
herobasfrank: check your file associations in konqueror03:51
herofor a given filetype, you create an application hierarchy as to what app gets to play the file03:51
kaminixNew question. How do I make "for i in * ; do md5sum "$i"/*flac >> "$i"/checksum.md5sum ; done" not try and browse my spawn_checksums file (looks ugly in the output)?03:51
martijn81japaya: yeah, i needed to reload firefox i think but after that it worked03:51
martijn81work in konqueror too03:51
basfrankhero: will it work in an external player window or in the web page?03:51
martijn81*works03:51
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herobasfrank: it should play in the webpage03:55
japayamartijn81: I know, konqueror is nice but doens't seem to support some html/css standards or something like that :s03:55
basfrankhero: i'll try, thx hero03:55
herogood luck!03:55
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japayaby the way, I've got beryl running but when I minimize a window the animation goes well but about 4cm above the underside of my menubar the animation freeze and after a short time it just flashes away03:57
japayadoes anyone know if this is a know bug or misconfiguration?03:57
herojapaya: try #beryl-effects03:57
japayaok thx03:57
heroi think that's what it's called03:57
hero!beryl03:57
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects03:57
hero#ubuntu-effects03:57
japayayeah beryl-effects was pretty empty :p03:58
heroheh, sorry03:58
heroi decided not to run beryl or compiz anymore03:58
buzmhh gutsy desktop cd dumps me to busybox03:58
japayawhy not?03:58
andresjimcomo hago para cambiar de canal03:59
BluesKajjapaya, eye candy is a secondary consideration here, support is for systems that need real help , not window dressing probs :)04:00
hero!es > andresjim04:00
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japayahehe I understand, but I was just wondering and since I didn't know an other channel to ask this question... :)04:00
martijn81japaya: i agree firefox is better in some cases, but it should work with both04:00
martijn81i use flash-nonfree version 9 i think04:00
herothe channel ubotu gave you should be fine04:00
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BluesKajjapaya, if you stick around someone with beryl experience might logon04:01
japayamartijn81: yes, I've just started FF and it works perfectly... yesterday it didn't want to load any of the flash animations :s04:01
japayaBluesKaj: well, it's not so urgent. I would actually like to ask someone with beryl experience if it is possible to run windows on a seperate desktop04:02
japayabut I'll look this up on google first :)04:02
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BluesKajjapaya, http://www.google.com/linux04:03
japayaHaha, that actually works!04:04
japayathanks BluesKaj04:04
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gobanhow do i make programs automatically start when i login04:24
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trekdanne$HOME/.kde/Autostart04:25
geniiput a shortcut to them in ~/.kde/Autostart04:25
geniiheh04:26
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dhqguys well when is kde 4 gonna release i can wait ..... is beta safe04:29
herobeta is never safe, dude04:30
herothat's why it's beta04:30
steinerhippoyes, i also wanted to say that, to slow^^04:30
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liuKDE04:33
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liu sudo apt-get install kde sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop 04:35
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hero!cn04:35
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ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:36
liu04:36
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BlauhautHello04:36
Blauhauti am using ubuntu 7.0404:36
Blauhautis it posible to change my x interface to kubuntu ?04:36
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Blauhautall with my configurations ?04:37
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liuOKYOU TYPE SUDO APTGET INSTALL KUBUNTUDESKTOP04:38
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Blauhautliu; what about my all configuration files ?04:38
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runleveltenliu. Why, did he ask how to get bash: SUDO: command not found ?04:39
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BlauhautFor an example i am using ubuntu + compiz fusion04:40
BluesKajBlauhaut, install kubuntu-desktop04:40
Blauhautdo i need to install the fusion again when i download  kubuntu-dekstop ?04:40
liusudo04:40
liudon`t type SUDO04:40
Blauhautguys i know have to chance it04:40
Blauhauti am just asking what will be the problems ?04:41
runleveltenbash: APT: command not found04:41
runlevelten;P04:41
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Blauhautany help ?04:41
steinerhippono capital letters in apt04:41
BluesKajwe don't worry much about compiz, fusion or beryl here ...you'll have to take your chances :)04:42
liuapt04:42
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liuok?04:42
runleveltenbasically, bash is a tad case sensitive, Blauhaut04:42
runleveltenBlauhaut: No.04:42
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Blauhautrunlevelten; what no ?04:42
liuI am a chinese,you are foreigners?04:42
runlevelten<Blauhaut> do i need to install the fusion again when i download  kubuntu-dekstop ?04:42
Blauhautok i am downloading it now04:43
runleveltenliu: No. You are a foreigner. This is the English-speaking channel :)04:43
runleveltenheh04:43
steinerhippo:D04:43
andresjimcomo hago para crear una nueva secion en kubuntu04:43
runleveltenNobody's a foreigner on the interwebs really.04:43
runlevelten!ch04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
runlevelten!cn04:43
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:43
BluesKaj!es | andresjim04:44
ubotuandresjim: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:44
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liuwho are using KDE404:44
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steinerhipponot yet, don't really want to use beta, i'm pretty new to kubuntu, so^^04:45
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liukde have more softwares than gnome04:46
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llutzmore != better04:47
trekdanneliu: i'm using KDE4 on my "development" machine04:47
steinerhippoyes, i use kubuntu, but not kde404:47
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trekdannehmm the gnome project doesn't include everything using the gtk+ libraries04:48
Blauhautis it posible to have both ubuntu and kubuntu ?04:48
steinerhippoyes04:48
liuOK04:48
trekdanneBlauhaut: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE04:48
steinerhippobut not sure evry program will work on evry desktop environment04:49
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Blauhauti know it but sometimes i need work in gnome so04:49
trekdanne!find ubuntu-desktop04:49
ubotuFound: edubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop04:49
Blauhautis it posible to decide which interface i am going to work in ?04:49
fraxanyone have an idea what could be wrong with my wireless networkcard? I have installed the drivers and enabled it, but I only get 2 network interfaces.. loopback and eth0 which is the "cable"-card..04:49
Blauhauthow can i set which one is default ?04:49
Blauhautat login screen ?04:49
steinerhippoi'm not sure know, but i think you can choose on login screen04:50
Blauhautsteinerhippo; ups that is super :)04:50
Blauhautsteinerhippo;  i am downloading kubuntu-desktop right now04:50
Blauhautso in my next login there will be KDE choose too04:51
Blauhautwhen i log in KDE04:51
steinerhippoas i said i'm not sure04:51
Blauhautdo i need to set up compix-fusion again ?04:51
japayadoes anyone use the seveas packages?04:51
Blauhautor is it going to work ?04:51
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steinerhippobut there is a posibility for sure that you can decide at login screen04:51
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tobiashi guys04:51
japayaI can't connect to the seveas servers to update apt for some reason...04:52
Blauhautsteinerhippo;  what about the fusion ?04:52
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tobiasBlauhaut: are you asking about how to start with xgl?04:52
steinerhippoi think all progs will be still there, it's only desktop environment that you change04:52
sebrezilis there a way to increase the mouse touchpamouse.  its drving me crazyd sensitivity in kubuntu.  it takes 3 scrolls to get across the screen and tends to click on things while Im trying tomove the04:53
Blauhautsteinerhippo; thats ok i got it now04:53
sebrezilahhhh04:53
Blauhauttobias; steinerhippo get me thank you so much04:53
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sebrezilit did it again04:53
steinerhipponow, he want's to know if he has to reistall compiz fusoin if he installs kde-desktop on ubuntu04:53
sebreziland screwed up my post. lol04:53
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Blauhautsteinerhippo; yes that is what i am talking about :)04:54
sebrezilis there a way to increase the mouse touchpad sensitivity in kubuntu.  it takes 3 scrolls to get across the screen and tends to click on things while Im trying to move the mouse04:54
sebrezilok thats better04:54
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tobiaserm04:54
tobiaswell04:54
tobiasBlauhaut: you got to install compiz-kde then04:55
tobiasbecause so far you probably only installed compiz-gnome04:55
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Blauhauttobias; ups04:55
Blauhauttobias; ok wait for kubuntu download :)04:55
tobiasokay =)04:55
Blauhautsteinerhippo; after the command = sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:55
Blauhauti am just going to restart my ubuntu heh ?04:55
aaron_well. i finally switched to kde from gnome.04:56
aaron_it's so much nicer.04:56
sebrezilBlauhaut: and try out the aquamarine theme. it works with native kde themes04:56
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tobiasyou might only restart your x-server but.. I personally like hardware restarts better ;)04:56
Blauhauttobias; ok i will04:56
Blauhautsebrezil; ups ?04:56
steinerhippoyes, x server would be enough, but as tobias said^^04:56
Blauhautaaron_;  which one is better ?04:56
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tobiasBlauhaut: after the installation in finished just do sudo apt-get install compiz-kde04:56
tobiasand maybe you need to do some apt-get update after it as well04:57
tobiasthat should work it =)04:57
steinerhippoand don't forget apt-get upgrade^^04:57
Blauhauttobias; i need fusion so do i need the download the package compiz-kde ?04:57
aaron_Blauhaut: I'm much more happy with kde.04:57
Blauhautaaron_; i hope i will be too :)04:57
tobiasBlauhaut: dont you have already installed the whole compiz-fusion packages ?04:57
aaron_yeah. just being able to customize the way konqueror works.04:57
japayatobias: do you know something more about the seveas packages? I've tried to download the packages from several adresses but it seems I just can't connect to the servers for some reason :s04:58
Blauhauttobias; dunno i am just using it in gnome ? how can i check it ? if i have all packages or not ?04:58
tobiasjapaya: its because you probably didnt apt-get update04:58
BluesKajgnome isn't my cuppa tea , it's too different for an old windows guy like me04:58
tobiasdo it and he will get the packages04:58
aaron_Does anyone know how to change the size of the icons down by the clock? they eat a lot of real estate and don't do much for me.04:58
tobiasbla04:58
tobiasBlauhaut: all packages are the same but compiz-gnome and compiz-kde04:58
tobiasso if you ran compiz on gnome you only need that package (compiz-kde)04:59
japayatobias: I did, it messages "404 not found" for all servers...04:59
tobiassorry I got to go for some minutes04:59
Blauhauttobias; ok i will download it too after sudo apt-get update ..04:59
Blauhautis that will be ok ?04:59
tobiasyep04:59
tobiasgreat04:59
tobias=)04:59
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Blauhautok thanks :)04:59
Blauhautgo on apt-get download it quick !04:59
tobiasjapaya: sorry I got to go real quick - I hope I can get back later and maybe help you then :)04:59
tobiaslater04:59
reagleBRKLNin feisty juk, what happend to "guess tag info from Internet" (musicbrainz)?05:00
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japayatobias: Ok nice thanks you :-)05:00
reagleBRKLNis there a nice/rec'd application for tagging and renaming files if juk can't do it anymore05:00
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japayaI was able to download the file but it's a .deb file I'll have to look up on how opening that05:00
japaya!deb05:00
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:00
aaron_japaya: sudo dpkg -i debname.deb05:01
steinerhippothere's the answer :D05:01
japayacool thanks :)05:01
aaron_:)05:01
heroor you can do sudo dpkg -i file.deb05:01
aaron_what's the area called by the clock?05:02
steinerhippolike aaron_ said05:02
miles_does anyone here program in actionscript 3.0 or flex?05:02
Blauhauti really love buntu :) it does not mather if it is ubuntu or kubuntu, xubuntu05:03
Blauhautedubuntu :)05:03
Blauhaut!edubuntu05:03
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org05:03
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Blauhauti just heard that there is a mubuntu too for muslims05:03
Blauhaut!mubumtu05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mubumtu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
steinerhippo:D05:03
Blauhaut!ubuntume05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntume - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
steinerhippobut there is one for multimedia things05:04
BlauhautUbuntuME stands for Ubuntu Muslim Edition. Ubuntu Muslim Edition is a free, open source operating system based on the popular Ubuntu Linux.05:04
aaron_i like the idea of mythbuntu.05:04
Blauhautaaron_; oww what i sthat05:04
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SlimeyPe1e!ubuntumce05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntumce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
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Blauhaut!mythbuntu05:05
ubotuMythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information05:05
steinerhippo!ubuntustudio05:05
ubotuubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.05:05
Blauhautsteinerhippo;  i already tried Ubuntu studio but it is just downlaod and installed me lots of audio packages05:05
japayaSite Temporarily Unavailable05:05
Blauhautno interface or other think chance05:06
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steinerhippook05:06
kruemel_hallo, ich fhre folgenden behelf aus: rpm -i blablabal.rpm und bekomme folgende fehlermeldung: qt is needed by blablabla05:06
Blauhautkruemel_;  is that a new english sentence ?05:07
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steinerhippohi, ich glaube wenn du nochmal auf englsisch schreiben wrdest, wrden dich mehr verstehen05:07
steinerhippo@ kruemel05:07
kruemel_oh :D im sry05:07
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llutz!de | kruemel_05:07
ubotukruemel_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:07
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BluesKaj!de | kruemel_05:07
RadiantFirethat was not a support request guys05:08
Blauhautkruemel_; do you need to install some .rpm packages ?05:08
kruemel_hello, i typed this into the console: rpm -i blablabal.rpm but i get that error: qt is needed by blablabla05:08
Blauhautkruemel_; we use .deb files on ubuntu05:08
Blauhaut!deb | kruemel_05:08
ubotukruemel_: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:08
llutzkruemel_: *ubuntu uses .deb not rpm, so try to get a .deb of your program and install05:08
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kruemel_ubotum llutz: ok thx05:09
steinerhippoyes, .rmp is suse and i also think other, but don't know05:09
Blauhautkruemel_;  try to find and  download .deb file for installination05:09
aaron_rpm is red hat.05:09
steinerhippook, thx, suse also uses it05:09
aaron_deb is debian based.05:09
Blauhautkruemel_; if you do not find it let me know05:09
aaron_yup05:09
SlimeyPe1eRedhat Package Management05:09
Blauhautkruemel_;  than i will show you how to install .rpm packages05:09
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BluesKaj!rpm05:09
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)05:09
kruemel_Blauhaut: there are only .rpm and src.rpm files..05:10
Blauhautkruemel_;05:10
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Blauhautkruemel_;   $ sudo apt-get install alien05:10
Blauhautat console05:10
kruemel_Blauhaut: i have it05:10
llutzkruemel_: what app?05:10
Blauhautkruemel_; so05:11
Blauhautsudo alien -d package-name.rpm05:11
Blauhautit will change it to .deb file05:11
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Blauhautbut it is not a heallty way05:11
aaron_it's probably safer to just get the source files.05:11
Blauhautyes05:11
Blauhautmaybe you should need to get sources and compile tham on buntu05:12
kruemel_blauhaut: okay, right so05:12
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aaron_danngit. the only thing i'm not happy with, and research says you can't change it, is the size of the icons in the task tray05:12
kruemel_Blauhaut: and now doubleklick=?05:12
Blauhaut!deb  kruemel_05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deb  kruemel_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
Blauhaut!deb | kruemel_05:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about deb  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:13
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Blauhaut!deb | kruemel_05:13
ubotukruemel_: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:13
aaron_that information thing is like a bright light to a 2 year old.05:13
Blauhautaaron_; :)05:13
kaminixHow do I extract an audiofile from a videofile using mplayer? mplayer <file> -aid 1 (it has two) -dumpaudio -dumpfile <file>.mp3 gives an unplayable file.05:13
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kruemel_blauhaut, ubotu: thx05:14
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Blauhautkruemel_; than double click it05:14
BluesKaj!repositories05:14
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:14
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Blauhautsteinerhippo; do i need to chance source.list when i am changing to kubuntu ?05:16
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steinerhippono, don't think so05:17
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steinerhippowhen i do apt-get update, he also uses ubuntu servers05:18
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steinerhippoubuntu source lists, i think the are the same, an example, firefox for gnome or kde is the same05:19
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steinerhippoi also have in my firefox info :"Firefox/2.0.0.6 (Ubuntu-feisty)" altough i'm using kubuntu05:19
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SlimeyPe1ekubuntu is ubuntu. They're identical in every way - they just come with different packages installed by default.05:20
tobiasokay guys, I manages to be back for some minutes :)05:20
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steinerhippoyes, structure and all that is the same05:21
BluesKajubuntu & kubuntu use the same repositories05:21
steinerhippodifferent desktop environments05:21
BluesKajjust check your sources.list05:21
tobiasBlauhaut: did it work?05:21
tsunadekubuntu have more bougs05:21
tsunade:|05:21
tsunadebugs05:21
tobiasjapaya: any questions left? :)05:21
tsunade:|05:21
steinerhippo@ BluesKaj: thx, just what i thought05:21
Blauhauttobias; still downloading :(05:21
zipperSlimeyPe1e, then they arent exactly identical in every way now are they? =P05:21
zblachok. a bit of weirdness. since updating xine, i can no longer get video from avis. what gives?05:21
zipperzblach, i tend to use vlc for playing all video-files since it "just works"05:22
steinerhippome too05:22
zblachzipper: also with vlc05:23
BluesKajzblach, W32codecs05:23
zblachand I have w32codecs05:23
zipperW32codecs shouldnt be needed with vlc afaik05:23
zblachregardless05:23
SlimeyPe1ezipper: well ok, they're identical in every way except for one very trivial one ;p05:23
trekdannemplayer + w32codecs = win05:23
zblach"Profile value 2 is forbidden (and WMV3 Complex Profile is unsupported)05:23
zblach"05:23
zipperbut dont know zblach, havent played around with xine much05:23
BluesKajwasn't referring to vlc05:23
zblachworks with mplayer tho'05:24
zipperSlimeyPe1e, well its not really as trivial as you make it be, there are unique issues/bugs/whatever for both distros, but yeah.... generally they're the same05:24
zippertrekdanne, can you watch videos on stage6.divx.com with mplayer?05:24
tobiasanyone can tell me why my Si05:25
tobiaserm05:25
tobiasanyone can tell me why my Super-key doesnt work anymore ?05:25
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zippersuper-key?05:25
tobiasWindowskey05:25
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zipperwell, because it's useless? =) Or you have a broken keyboard perhaps?05:26
trekdannezipper: dunno sec05:26
tobiaszipper:  ._. I need it for amarok e.g.05:26
tobiasbecause all the global hotkeys work with the super-key05:26
zippertrekdanne, i ask cus' i've tried to make them work, but with little luck. I know its possible using automatix, but i'd rather not go there05:26
GuHhHhello, im having a problem trying to umount a device, it says its busy. i tried -f to force umount, but the problem persists. what can be done?05:26
zippertobias, hmm i see. Well, i would guess you would have to look at the inputDevice "keyboard" section in your /etc/xorg.conf05:27
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tobiaszipper: but I dont get any idea what should have happened tonight when my pc was turned off because I didnt change anything ;)05:28
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tobiasand all the other keys still work05:28
Blauhauttobias;  do you know where is the beryl-manager conf file ?05:29
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zippertrekdanne, did it work?05:30
tobiasBlauhaut: because of what ?05:30
geniiGuHhH: Make sure you are not inside the directory it was mounted to and the file manager is not trying to show it's contents when you umount it05:31
tobiasBlauhaut: you are using compiz-fusion, dont you ?05:31
GuHhHgenii thanks, i solve it :)05:31
tobias*aren't you05:31
Blauhauttobias;  just my friend ask :)05:31
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geniiGuHhH: :)05:31
Blauhauttobias; nothing to do with just he wants to know :)05:31
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geniitobias: Make any weird xmodmap changes lately?05:32
tobiasBlauhaut: sorry no, I dont exactly know05:32
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Blauhautokki05:32
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Snakehow do I start mysql on kubuntu?05:32
tobiasgenii: not that I knew... what could be such a change for example ?05:32
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speaker219snake: should be the same as regular ubuntu05:32
jaxon_is it normal to be able to play rmvb files on realplayer ONLY...because on kaffine sound is missing when rmvb files are played....cheers05:33
geniitobias If you manually did something like that you would definitely know :)05:33
stdinBlauhaut: ~/.beryl/settings05:33
trekdannezipper: no actually not with konqueror05:33
Snakespeaker219: which is what?05:33
steinerhippoehm @Blauhaut, in home dir is a hidden folder called .beryl and there is a settings file, don't know if you mean that one05:33
SnakeThe method I know isnt there05:33
trekdannezipper: don't have firefox installed ...05:33
steinerhippooh, stdin, faster than me^^05:33
zippertrekdanne, okay, thanks05:33
Snakesudo /etc/init.d/mysql start usually works05:33
speaker219snake: did you try sudo invoke-rc.d mysql start05:33
speaker219huh05:33
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speaker219hmm05:33
speaker219hold on snake05:34
Blauhautsteinerhippo; thanks05:34
Blauhautstdin; thank you too :)05:34
zipperjaxon_, rmvb failes are evil... but you can use vlc to play them i believe05:34
zipperfailes?05:34
zipperformat05:34
zipperblah05:34
jaxon_also helix player is supposed to play rmvb files but i get the messaging saying it's missing 'audio/x-pn-realaudio05:34
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jaxon_zipper: vlc doesnt seem to work with rmvb files05:35
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zipperjaxon_, no? =/05:35
geniitobias anyhow, you can see what is mapped where by: xmodmap -pk | more05:35
stdinzipper: you use the mplayer plugin ?05:35
speaker219Snake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-39085275bc28194cca77d021ec362ff3003b10bc05:35
zipperstdin, ehrm, for that divx player thing to work? Yeah05:36
zipperbut it doesnt work though =/05:36
speaker219zipper: are you trying to get divx to play inside firefox?05:36
zipperspeaker219, i am05:36
stdinzipper: it's bug in the post install of either mozilla-mplayer or firefox, but I put the fix here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33939/05:36
speaker219zipper: do you have the totem-mozilla plugin installed?05:36
zipperspeaker219, so i can use sites like stage6.divx.com05:36
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speaker219yeah, I installed the totem-mozilla plugin and stage6 works05:37
zipperstdin, uh, i'll take a look, thanks05:37
stdinzipper: put those command in a console and restart firefox and it'll work05:37
Snakeheh05:37
Snakespeaker219: seems I didnt get the server end of it, just the client05:37
Snakewhoops05:37
zipperspeaker219, too bad i already have totem-mozilla =S05:37
speaker219hmm that's weird05:38
speaker219zipper, what do you see when you go to a stage6 video?05:38
zipperspeaker219, take a look at what stdin pasted05:38
zipperit seems like a regular bug that should be fixed soon-ish05:38
speaker219zipper: yeah, that's mplayer, I don't really use mplayer05:38
speaker219zipper, go to about:plugins05:38
speaker219do you see anything about divx there?05:39
zipperi prefer mplayer over totem any day05:39
speaker219zipper: meh ;)05:39
zipperstdin, your sym-links... they dont point anywhere?05:39
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trekdannetotem = gnome xine interface ?05:39
trekdannelong time since I used gnome05:40
zipperstdin, if the files should just be created, why not use 'touch' ?05:40
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stdinzipper: they do point to somewhere, they point to the relevant files in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/05:40
trekdannestdin, i think you forgot the trailing dot05:41
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stdintrekdanne: you don't need the dot05:41
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zipperstdin, isnt the syntax: 'ln -s <name-of-symlink> <where-it-points-to>' ?05:41
stdinzipper: no, other way round05:41
geniizipper revered05:41
geniibah typo plus late05:42
zipper=)05:42
zipperokay, thanks a lot05:42
stdinif you don't specify the name of the link, then it will use the filename of the target in the directory you are in05:42
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stdin^ for those that don't know05:42
trekdanneah kk good to know05:43
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Blauhauttobias; last 5 min05:43
Allooshhi all, yesterday I installed kubuntu, and when turned my computer on it had problem with the x server05:43
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steinerhippowhat problems?05:44
Allooshnow iam reinstalling again and it asks me to choose between gdm and kdm, which one to use?05:44
speaker219Alloosh, did you edit the xorg.conf file?05:44
Allooshnow iam using fresh install of the whole ubuntu, so which to choose gdm or kdm?05:44
BlauhautAlloosh; do you want to use gnome or kde ?05:45
cruceshi05:45
speaker219Alloosh, personally, I use GDM, but you can use whatever you want. I assume kdm is perferred here because it is KDE. And please don't say things more than once. We'll answer you eventually.05:45
Blauhautcruces;  hiya05:45
cruceshelp convmv05:45
tobiasBlauhaut: you are getting closer =)05:45
speaker219GDM has more themes because it is more popular, and it can launch KDE, XFCE, or GNOME, whichever you perfer.05:45
geniiAlloosh: for KDE, kdm is best05:45
Blauhauttobias;  so exited :)05:45
speaker219genii: if you don't mind me asking, what advantages does kdm have over gdm?05:46
crucesproblem with convmv, please help me05:46
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stdinspeaker219: kdm  can launch those DEs too05:46
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Blauhautcruces; ask your question , problem05:46
fraxquick question, where do I configure "grep" to not be case sensitive?05:46
crucesalquien habla espaol?05:46
geniispeaker219: unified aesthetics with your default wm if it's kde :)05:46
AllooshI took kdm and hope that I wont get the same problem as before, it just wouldnt let me see my screen, everything was swapped. I know that all was there but couldnt see it05:46
stdinfrax: grep -i05:47
speaker219stdin: meh ;P i installed ubuntu, and that's what it came with, so i'm just sticking to it. plus it has more themes because it is more popular.05:47
stdinfrax: see the grep manpage "man grep"05:47
Allooshhow to switch to gdm if I get problem with the kdm?05:47
BluesKaj!es | cruces05:47
ubotucruces: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:47
stdinspeaker219: how do you know it has more themes?05:47
speaker219most of you guys probably just installed kubuntu, but i started with ubuntu, and installed the kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop packages to see which one i liked out of all of them, and now i stick with KDE05:47
crucesthanks ubotu05:48
speaker219stdin: i went to theme sites05:48
fraxstdin: ty.. btw I dont know if you remember my question from yesterday about my wireless card that didnt work, I downloaded the gutsy tribe4 live cd, but it didnt work either... any tips? thanks05:48
tobiasBlauhaut: whisper me when you are doing the compiz part please, wanna know how it goes on ;)05:48
speaker219frax: what model do you have? you may need ndiswrapper05:48
geniiAlloosh: If you end up wanting gdm instead afterwards it's no biggie to swap them05:48
Blauhauttobias;  ok i will05:48
stdinfrax: was that with the intel pro one?05:48
fraxstdin: yes05:48
fraxstdin: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)05:48
Allooshgenii: great but how to swap?05:48
geniiAlloosh: you just: sudo apt-get remove kdm   and then sudo apt-get install gdm05:49
speaker219frax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16959305:49
steinerhippois it really nessecary to remove kdm? @ genii05:49
stdinfrax: I don't know then, it's strange because you have the driver installed and active. all I can think of is that it's somehow switched off05:49
aaron_Alloosh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm05:49
geniiAlloosh: then start it by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:50
aaron_that'll ask you which one you want to use05:50
Allooshgreat genii, thanks guuys will go for it now05:50
speaker219stdin: do you recommend gdm or kdm?05:50
speaker219stdin: also, will kdm automatically detect my GNOME and Xfce installations?05:50
stdinspeaker219: if you have a choice?05:50
fraxspeaker219:  thanks, will check it out05:50
geniisteinerhippo: No, but it avoids needing dpkg-reconfigure xorg   and so on05:50
steinerhippooh, didn't know @genii05:50
stdinspeaker219: both will detect whatever DEs you have05:50
speaker219okay05:50
geniisteinerhippo: when you have only 1 in, it will want to use that by default normally05:51
speaker219how do i change from gdm -> kdm? i have them both installed already05:51
aaron_speaker219:05:51
steinerhippook genii05:51
speaker219aaron_:05:51
aaron_speaker219:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm05:51
stdinspeaker219: just that gdm allows for the shutdown menu in gnome but not kde and vice versa too (seems to be a persistent bug)05:51
geniibah afk,work (they are yelling now)05:52
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speaker219stdin: so i just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm?05:53
speaker219stdin: i remember disabling KDM in the services configuration panel, should i enable it05:53
aaron_yes.05:53
aaron_and yes.05:53
stdin^ what aaron_ said05:54
geniiback05:54
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geniisteinerhippo: if you have gdm and kdm in, you can select which by just: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm  it will prompt you for which to use05:54
speaker219meh, i'm worried about screwing it up, so i'm gonna stick with gdm, sorry to bother you guys ;(05:54
aaron_speaker219: it's easy.05:55
geniispeaker219: See above :)05:55
speaker219what's the command for the services configuration? i think its a gnome settings thing but KDE doesn't have one05:55
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steinerhippooh ok, all fine, thx genii, i now only use kdm, i don't think that i'll use both in the closer future, but thx for the info05:55
speaker219nevermind, its sudo services-admin05:56
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stdinkde has it in system settings > advanced > system services05:56
speaker219alright, now i'm just going to restart :P05:56
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Urilock#ubuntu05:57
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fraxstdin: It cant be that I have several drivers and not using the correct one? .. does this provide any good information? http://pastebin.com/dd08a01405:59
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speaker219ok06:00
speaker219well06:00
speaker219kdm worked06:00
speaker219except it didn't have my all wonderful theme i picked for gdm :P where can i find themes for kdm?06:01
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Blauhauttobias;  just finished06:03
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speaker219where do i put KDM themes?06:03
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stdinfrax: have you filed a bug report yet?06:04
stdinspeaker219: use the theme installer?06:04
tobiasBlauhaut: with kubuntu install ?06:04
Blauhauttobias; yes i am just finished06:04
tobiaskde-desktop respectively06:04
tobiasgreat06:04
Blauhautdo i need to update now or after restart ?06:05
fraxstdin: no.. at where?06:05
tobiasmhm just try getting compiz-kde06:05
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Blauhautok06:06
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stdinfrax: you have feisty ?06:06
fraxstdin: yes06:06
Blauhauttobias;  i think i need both libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig and compiz-kde06:06
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tobiaserm Blauhaut I do have compiz fusion running right now and I never got something like that libcompiz thing06:07
Blauhauttobias;  is that a compiz fusion ?06:07
speaker219Does anybody know if its possible to have something start at startup without the stupid little bouncing icon thing on your cursor and the `Loading "whatever"` thing in the taskbar?06:07
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Blauhauttobias;  ?06:08
stdinfrax: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+filebug06:08
tobiasis what a compiz fusion ?06:08
Blauhauttobias;  the compiz that you are using now06:08
Blauhaut:)06:08
tobiasyes06:08
speaker219Epiphany06:08
Blauhautok i am done with compiz-kde06:08
tobiasokai06:08
Blauhautrestart now or somethink to do ?06:09
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tobiastry "compiz --replace"06:09
Blauhauttobias; i am on gnome now :)06:09
tobiasoh06:09
tobias._.06:09
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tobiaswell then restart06:09
Blauhautshutdown now :)06:09
tobiasand log in with kde06:09
Blauhautok06:09
tobiasgood luck ;)06:09
Blauhautsee ya bye06:09
Blauhautthanks06:09
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fkm__What graphics card would you recommend for (K)Ubuntu? I guess an ATI, but which one? I've learned since that the statements on the official pages are not always to be trusted :(06:13
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tobiasfkm__: there nothing I can say about that because you simply cant answer such a question06:14
tobiasif you dont want to play but only work with it you only need a low budget graphics card06:14
BluesKajfkm__, ATI is not well supported in Linux , Nvidia or Intel is better06:15
tobiasI personally do have an ATI but after spending some time I got everything working fine06:15
coreymon77fkm__: for linux support, i find nvidia is usually the easiest06:15
runleveltenfkm__: I wouldn't recommend ATI. I've never known anyone recommend ATI at all, ever.06:15
winbondis anyone here good with electronics or electricity?06:15
fkm__I want to play. But it doesn't need to be the latest model. Just something I can play games like HL2 with.06:15
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runleveltenI have ATI, and I wouldn't recommend it.06:15
runleveltenIf you want to play games, then forget ATI right away.06:16
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BluesKajtobias, yes , same here , but it's a PITA and lucky i don't care about Beryl or Compiz06:16
fkm__Yes, I got an ATI card in my PC and notebook. And I'm disappointed :|06:16
runleveltenSpecifically windows games, they have nasty unfixable and drastic crashes.06:16
runleveltenTry playing Oblivion in wine on an nvidia, then on an ati card, and you'll notice the difference.06:17
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runleveltenWhen the ATI crashes instantly every single time because of memory problems in the driver.06:17
runleveltenwell, memory and/or gl extensions.06:17
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stdinfkm__: if you want to get a graphics card, go for nvidia just about all of them are supported (except for the extremely old)06:17
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timo_hi06:18
tobiasBluesKaj: I am running compiz fusion and it works great =)06:18
timo_how do i edit my interfaces file06:18
timo_so that my wlan connects automatically to my access point at startup?06:18
BluesKajtobias, which ati card ?06:18
stdintimo_: why not use the GUI06:18
tobiasmobility radeon x140006:18
runleveltentobias: you don't have everything working fine if you have an ati card.06:18
timo_which GUI?06:18
tobiasrunlevelten: yes I am06:18
stdintimo_: KMenu > system settings > network06:18
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volnI have installed Amarok 1.4.506:18
volnI know that now Amaarok is 1.4.6.06:18
volnHow can I update a latest version of Amarok?06:18
boris_adept should automaticaly update it06:19
fkm__I got HL1 and so of course CS aswell as ET and Q3 to work somewhat good with my ATI Raedon 9800 XT and the fglrx drivers (but not with the official HOWTO).06:19
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runlevelten3d effects work surprisingly well with the OSS drivers, and sometimes even with fglrx. your basic quake engine stuff will run through fglrx.06:19
Blauhautup06:19
Blauhauts06:19
Blauhaut:OP06:19
runleveltenCoverage of OpenGL is *GARBAGE* with fglrx in my experience.06:19
stdinvoln: there may be kubuntu.org packages for feisty, check http://kubuntu.org/packages06:19
fkm__But not games like HL2 and the Quake4 and Doom3 demos run crappy even on the lowest quality and 800x600 :(06:19
BluesKajactaully the latest amarok is 1.4.706:20
volni have fiesty 7.0406:20
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timo_stdin: i tried that. but it doesn't save my settings. instead it complains about a bad default gateway"06:20
BluesKajrequires KDE 3.5.7 , voln06:20
runleveltenTry developing 3D stuff with ATi/fglrx as one of your targets, and finding every second little thing that works everywhere else breaks through fglrx.06:20
runleveltenAnyway, my advice is steer clear until something is done about it.06:21
stdintimo_: are you comfortable with the interfaces file?06:21
voln1.4.5.6 for 3.5 kde06:21
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timo_yeah i am06:21
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timo_just tell me what to put in06:21
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stdintimo_: press Alt-F2 and put in: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces06:21
timo_stdin: done06:21
BluesKajtobias, i have an onboard x200G , not exactly a hiend card :)06:21
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timo_stdin: my interface is wlan006:21
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tobiasBluesKaj: hehe true ^_06:22
BluesKajtobias, but I'm satisfied to be able to use google earth etc ...games , i don't care about06:23
tobiassame here06:23
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kubuntuAnyone know what's the problem with ubuntu servers (5 out of 8) being hacked? are the security updates comprimised? packages comprimised?06:25
stdinkubuntu: uh, no ubuntu servers were hacked06:25
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timo_stdin: where do I find the information on whta to put in the interfaces file? I already added wireless-essid. what more do I have to add. I use WEP06:27
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MrBougohay there06:27
kubuntuStory> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/16/ubuntu_pulls_compromised_servers/06:27
MrBougowhere can i get a list of all the boot parameters of the CD?06:27
MrBougowitht he explanation06:27
MrBougolike quiet, splash and stuff06:28
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stdinkubuntu: there were some *community* ran sites (for loco teams etc) that were slightly compromised but NO ubuntu servers06:28
stdinkubuntu: no matter what FUD you read on theregister06:29
kubuntuphew! - I was worried...06:29
stdinkubuntu: rely on trusted sources, if any ubuntu server was compromised, it would be removed06:30
stdintimo_: I'm not 100% sure, have a look in the man interfaces06:30
geniifearmongers06:30
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BluesKajkubuntu, now would be a good time to change your nick06:30
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buzmhh i have no sound on my new laptop?06:32
buzon gutsy06:32
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stdinbuz: gutsy help in #ubuntu+106:32
buzstdin: thx06:32
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ubuntuHi06:36
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MrBougothere are always loads of connect/disconnects here06:37
stdinMrBougo: yep, that's IRC for you06:38
aaron_irc is a big place :)06:38
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MrBougoi know06:39
MrBougooh ok there are 383 ppl here06:39
MrBougoi'm used to ~40 ppl06:39
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stdinalso happens when peoples connection "hickups"06:40
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speaker219How dare you06:40
speaker219HOW DARE YOU06:41
speaker219ITS `hiccups`06:41
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winbonddooglus: im trying to mod a old cellphone charger for my mp3 player, its .1v and 70mv over the stock one, id like to know if thats a signifficant difference06:41
MrBougothis chanel overloads my cpu :p06:42
MrBougobye06:42
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winbondim trying to mod a old cellphone charger for my mp3 player, its .1v and 70mv over the stock one, id like to know if thats a signifficant difference06:42
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stdinwinbond: ask in #kubuntu-offtopic (or #ubuntu-offtopic for a more active channel)06:43
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jhutchinswinbond: Can't be both .1v and .07v over.06:44
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geniiamps <> volts06:44
jhutchinsgenii: Yes, but which?06:45
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geniijhutchins: I imagine 70mA since 70 volts over on a charger is rediculous06:45
winbondjhutchins: well that what it says, one is 300mv the other one 370mv,  so maybe its not mv but milli something else06:46
stdinmA more likely06:46
jhutchinswinbond: ok, where does the .1 come from?06:46
jhutchins70mv = .07v06:46
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winbondjhutchins: one is 5.0v the other 5.1v output06:47
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speaker219loffle woffles06:48
speaker219why does it seem like almost everybody's quit message is "Konversation terminated"06:49
jhutchinsspeaker219: Because that's the default that konversation comes with?06:49
stdinspeaker219: because it's the default quit message for the default kubuntu client06:50
gorganalmightymine isn't06:50
speaker219ohh, i see.06:50
speaker219what client?06:50
gorganalmightyim using ChatZilla06:50
speaker219oh06:50
gorganalmightythe plug-in for firefox06:50
speaker219nevermind06:50
speaker219konversation06:50
speaker219yeah06:50
speaker219i use a *real* irc cleint06:50
speaker219;)06:50
speaker219jk06:50
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jhutchinsMine isn't either, but I filter join/part messages anyway, so I don't really care.06:50
gorganalmighty:P06:50
speaker219i use Xchat06:50
jhutchinsspeaker219: That's just mirc for gnome.06:51
speaker219chatzilla is good, but it's not really meant to be a full featured IRC client, just to test the limits of XUL06:51
speaker219i don't use xchat-gnome06:51
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gorganalmightyI haven't found anything I can't do with it yet06:51
jhutchinswinbond: I'd say you're going to need a better understanding of the specs you're trying to read before you go ahead with this.06:51
jhutchinswinbond: mv is usually an abreviation for "milivolt" or .001 volt.06:52
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jhutchinswinbond: most devices are concerned about both voltage and amperage or watts.06:53
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winbondjhutchins: im gonna look it up in a second and tell u exactly what it is06:53
stdinwinbond, jhutchins: you're both in offtopic, continue it there please06:54
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geniiHow do i get rid of annoying bluetooth "sdpd not running" notification now that it uses sdptool or hidd as the server instead?06:57
geniijhutchins: ;)06:57
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atlassituation: there is no "keep broken files" option in Ark when extracting from corrupt multipart rar archives. So instead I use the command "rar e -kb" in the "open with" dialog. This results in putting the files in my home directory, but I want it to extract to the same directory where the .rar files are. Q: how do i do this?06:58
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stdinatlas: try with 'x' instead of 'e'07:00
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speaker219what is up my homiez07:00
stdinatlas: 'e' means "Extract files to current directory."07:00
geniispeaker219: The price of Vista ;)07:00
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japayais there a small program or anything that can boost d and improve the sound quality by filters?07:00
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stdinatlas: you may have to do it from konsole then, possibly file a wish bug in ark about it07:04
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atlasstdin: ok thanks for your gelp07:04
atlashelp*07:04
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elite101hey i found this great site that lets u txt ppl for free it works too lol,07:10
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stdinelite101: #kubuntu-offtopic07:10
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elite101sorry07:10
elite101lol07:10
jhutchinsjapaya: Yes, but you'd need to be more specific in your question.  There are a number of utilities for recoding/transcoding which can apply filters and normalize volume.07:10
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jhutchinsjapaya: However, compression is usually lossy (as with mp3), and you can not restore information that has been lost.07:11
japayajhutchins: it's just to boost my sound of ventrilo07:11
japaya(outbound)07:12
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jhutchins!info ventrillo07:12
ubotuPackage ventrillo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:12
japaya!ventrilo07:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:13
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Dou1hey, I reinstalled grub on my comp after installing windows on top of linux, and when i select kubuntu, it says could not mount partition, press any key to continue.  any thoughts?07:13
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japayajhutchins: it's not standard package, I run it using wine07:14
Dou1nvm, fixed it lol incorrect partition number07:14
Assidhrmm07:14
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axelHello!07:16
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Dou1I can't mount my windows partition, or when i do, it says i do not have sufficient permissions.  chmod +r won't work07:24
stdinDou1: ntfs?07:25
Dou1yep.  but before i reinstalled grub, i could see the files on the ntfs just fine07:25
stdinhow are you mounting it?07:26
Dou1mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda207:26
Dou1under root07:26
stdinyeah, you'll need to give mount some options to let a user read it07:26
stdinsudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -o fmask=111,dmask=00007:27
stdinthat should work07:27
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Dou1thank you very much07:28
utentece qualcuno07:28
utentehello07:28
stdin!it | utente07:28
ubotuutente: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:28
utenteciao07:28
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japayaanyone that knows a good program to boost my microphone volume and filter static (for use with ventrilo 2.1)07:29
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Thorneew no vhost07:41
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deminemiis there a way to make my account root ? or to log in as root ?07:41
stdin!root | deminemi07:41
Thornesudo cmd07:41
ubotudeminemi: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:41
Thorneor that07:41
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Thorneowned in a subtle way07:42
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deminemii don't want to leave root disabled though >.>07:42
Thornedeminemi you can use root commands07:43
Thorneusing sudo07:43
stdindeminemi: 1) read that link, all instructions there, 2) why enable root?07:43
geniideminemi: Just use sudo su  for extended sessions which require it07:43
Thornetheres really no eason to have a root account t just makes your system less secure07:44
Thorneand you can also use a root console07:44
geniiPlus it's just Best Practice07:44
deminemii am writing programs that operate on the computer like drivers, and my account needs root privileges to run them properly07:44
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Thorneyou can do that running su or sudo07:44
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geniideminemi: I say again, sudo su07:45
Thornejust start up the program using the su cmd07:45
deminemiacutally lemme try something, brb07:45
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Thornehas anyone here installed kde from CLI off the kubuntu cdrom07:45
geniiyes07:46
Thornei know its apt-get install but where the kde install on the cdrom07:46
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Thornei did mount cdrom0 then cd to the cd07:46
geniiyou need first to add cdrom by apt-cdrom07:46
Thorneaaah07:47
stdinI'd think only the alternate cd has the packages in an apt readable format07:47
Thornewell im using the alternate cd07:47
stdinthen that'll work :p07:47
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Thorneis it apt-get install kde-desktop?07:48
stdinjust "sudo apt-cdrom add && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"07:48
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stdinor use aptitude if you want07:48
stdinor a GUI package manager for that matter07:48
Thornewell i only have cli installed right now07:49
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Thornei was doing the nstall and something happens wen setting up software07:49
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Thorneso i installed cli only07:49
stdinah, okk07:49
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Thornewierd thing is it did it with both xubuntu and kubuntu07:50
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Thorneon alternate install cds07:50
geniisorry for lag, work called me.07:50
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Thorneyoure fired genii07:50
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demineminvm, i chmod 777'ed it and it still doesn't work, so it doesn't look like a root error07:51
geniiThorne: I installed from alternate to CLI. then i did apt-cdrom for the regular cd, added it. Then commented out all the online deb lines. then did usual, apt-get update apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    Worked fine07:51
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Thornehm07:51
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timo_hello07:52
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kazuma_hii07:53
kazuma_i have problems with beryl07:54
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kazuma_can anyone help me?07:54
jhutchinskazuma_: Perhaps someone in #ubuntu-effects.07:55
kazuma_thanks man07:55
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Thorneok ill brb hopefully itll be on konversation :D07:57
chavesola07:57
chavesalguem ker tc??07:57
Thornethx stdin and genii07:57
kazuma_chaves07:57
kazuma_stdin07:57
kazuma_are you there dudde?07:57
stdin!br | chaves07:57
geniikazuma_: Yup07:57
ubotuchaves: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.07:57
stdinkazuma_: yep07:58
kazuma_man can you help me? xD07:58
kazuma_i have a problem with beryl07:58
geniikazuma_: I don't use beryl (at least not yet)07:58
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stdindepends on the problem and the extent of my knowledge in the area07:58
kazuma_i went to the other channel but no one answer xD07:58
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kazuma_well it says something like07:58
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kazuma_composite manager failed07:59
chaveskjpo07:59
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kazuma_the composite manager failed two times at the same minute and it's unavailable for this session07:59
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kazuma_that's the mistake man xD07:59
eifzonI just installed Kubuntu with the alternative CD, when I try to like apt-get irssi or anything else it says couldn't find package irssi.07:59
stdinhold on. real life called...07:59
jhutchins!info irssi08:00
kazuma_haha sure dude08:00
ubotuirssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB08:00
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jhutchinseifzon: is the system connecting to the internet?08:00
geniikazuma_: Actually i had a similar issue not with beryl tho on an i810 video08:00
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eifzonjhutchins: I am here :P08:00
kazuma_so what that it means genii? =O08:01
kazuma_is it the card?08:01
kazuma_sorry but i'm really new with kubuntu xD08:01
geniikazuma_: In my case it was that in the xorg.conf i needed to comment out the lines at bottom which loaded the composite extension and it went OK after. but transparency suffered08:01
zipperHmm, i'm reaching ~30mb/s when transfering data from one hdd to another (same kind, s-ata). Should i be satisfied with this?08:02
eifzonnvm fixed it jhutchins .08:02
kazuma_=o i see08:02
kazuma_cuz' weirdly it started to fail this morning08:02
kazuma_it was ok yersterday night08:02
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kazuma_i don't know what could it be08:02
geniikazuma_: Likely you updated your video driver, perhaps updated restricted video drivers08:02
kazuma_that's a good point08:03
kazuma_so then, what do you think i should do? =o08:03
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geniikazuma_: please issue command: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Composite        and paste result here08:04
kazuma_ok08:04
geniikazuma_: 3 possibles for the command result, 1-nothing   2-there and enabled 3-there but commented out08:04
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kazuma_cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No existe el fichero  directorio08:05
kazuma_that appeared well i'm mexican xD08:05
geniikazuma_: upper case X08:05
kazuma_so it says that the directory doesn't exist08:05
kazuma_ok08:05
kazuma_sorry xD08:05
geniikazuma_: upper case X08:06
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geniikazuma_: And upper case C on Composite08:06
kazuma_nothing appeared :S08:07
kazuma_look08:07
stdinreal life sux, but changing the subject.. what graphics card kazuma_?08:07
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kazuma_kazuma@Kazumalap:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Composite08:07
kazuma_kazuma@Kazumalap:~$08:07
kazuma_i have an intel 395 or something like that08:07
kazuma_xD08:07
kazuma_but08:08
stdinkazuma_: lspci | grep VGA08:08
geniikazuma_: OK, looking now for the lines you need to put at bottom08:08
kazuma_=o08:08
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kazuma_00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)08:08
kazuma_that appeared08:08
Dou1stdin: what was that command for mounting ntfs again? sorry08:09
stdin945, ok that's more like it :)08:09
kazuma_xD08:09
kazuma_hhaha08:09
stdinDou1: you mean "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -o fmask=111,dmask=000" ?08:09
stdinDou1: do you want to mount it automatically at boot?08:09
Dou1stdin:  yeah thanks if i want it at boot, i just add it to the file in the boot directory? right?08:10
kazuma_that means it's ok no? xD08:10
kazuma_what should i do xD08:10
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stdinDou1: you add it to the /etc/fstab file https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions (if your interested)08:11
kazuma_what could be wrong with composite08:11
kazuma_xD08:11
tobiasanybody here (points at stdin ^_) can tell me what I can do to make my windows/super key work again?08:12
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geniikazuma_: open xorg.conf for writing by: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf       then add to the bottom 3 lines,08:12
Dou1stdin: thanks08:12
tobiasI didnt change anything as far as I know08:12
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tobiasit suddenly stopped working after I booted08:13
geniikazuma_:08:13
geniiSection "Extensions"08:13
genii      Option   "Composite"   "Enable"08:13
geniiEndSection08:13
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kazuma_=O08:13
kazuma_let me check08:13
stdintobias: no clue, it's always worked for me08:13
geniikazuma_: Then save the file. Then logout and back in to see if it took08:13
tobiasargh :/08:13
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kazuma_genii08:14
tobiasis there any key-configure setting data or something like that in kubuntu ?08:14
kazuma_that appeared08:14
kazuma_check08:14
kazuma_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16908:14
kazuma_  Major opcode:  14508:14
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kazuma_  Minor opcode:  308:14
stdinignore that kazuma_08:14
kazuma_  Resource id:  0x008:14
kazuma_Failed to open device08:14
kazuma_X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16908:14
tobiasstop pasting ._.08:14
kazuma_  Major opcode:  14508:15
kazuma_  Minor opcode:  308:15
tobias.08:15
kazuma_  Resource id:  0x008:15
kazuma_Failed to open device08:15
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(kazuma_/#kubuntu) Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:15
(kazuma_/#kubuntu) Xlib: No protocol specified08:15
(kazuma_/#kubuntu) kate: cannot connect to X server :0.008:15
(kazuma_/#kubuntu) haha08:15
(kazuma_/#kubuntu) what to do what to do :(08:15
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geniistdin: My bad I should have told him about pastebin ahead of time08:15
kazuma_=O?08:16
tobias!pastebin08:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:16
kazuma_haha08:16
kazuma_i didn't know that08:16
tobiasnow you do =)08:16
stdinnow you do :p08:16
kazuma_hahaha08:16
kazuma_yeah08:16
kazuma_xD08:16
tobiasHA ! I beat you to it :d08:16
tobiasfirst time ;D08:16
kazuma_so friends what should i do?:P08:16
geniikazuma_: OK, so then inkonsole instead do this:   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to open the file08:16
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geniikazuma_: go to very bottom of file with page down key, then add those 3 lines08:17
tobiasnote that the "X11" has a large "X"08:17
kazuma_thanks it oppened =O!!!08:17
stdintobias: i'm reading emails, editing wikis, posting blogs, and using IRC... someone's  bound to beat me sometime :p08:17
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kazuma_above end section right?08:17
geniikazuma_: then save the file, log out from kubuntu then back in08:17
tobiasstill, you're not off the hook. I beat you to it and I will always keep that in mind :p08:17
kazuma_but what do you tell me to put? xD08:18
kazuma_cuz' it kicked me out haha08:18
geniikazuma_: No, not above anything below all08:18
tobias[20:13]  <genii> Section "Extensions"08:18
tobias[20:13]  <genii>       Option   "Composite"   "Enable"08:18
tobias[20:13]  <genii> EndSection08:18
stdingenii: restarting X is needed, not just logout08:18
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kazuma_ok08:18
geniistdin: I know, i told him that already08:18
mistknighthello everyone, I have quite a big problem that really seems it's going to really give me quite a headache. Skype's been blocked in Jordan at the IP level. I have a server outside Jordan and I need to setup some way for the following scenario, "my machine encrypts all IP traffic"->"send to remote server"->"server decrypts, does its magic and gets response"->"response is encrypted" (just in case packets are filtered both ways)->"packet reaches my clien08:18
geniistdin: sorry, misunderstand08:19
CS5Can anyone help me plz. I tried to open my xorg.conf using sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf and the page it opens is blank.08:19
geniistdin: you are right, X restart entirely is better08:19
kazuma_i'll be back friends08:19
kazuma_i'll tell you what happened :P08:20
geniikazuma_: logout kde then do ctrl-alt-backspace08:20
tobiasCS5: X1108:20
kazuma_=o ok08:20
tobiasCS5: It is an big X not a small x08:20
stdinCS5: 1) don't use sudo, use gksu (for gnome), 2) upper case X08:20
NickPrestaCS5, the location of xorg.conf is /etc/X11/. notice the uppercase X08:20
mistknightI need a few pointers as to the software, technology, packages I need to get this magic working. I've heard of openVPN, but I'm not so sure!08:20
geniikazuma_: When you are at login08:20
tobiassudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf works08:20
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CS5OIC, TY all08:20
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Dou1what is the kubuntu partition manager called? i can't find it under system anymore08:21
mistknightanyone please? any keywords I need to search for would be appreciated!08:22
NickPrestaDou1, QTParted08:22
stdinDou1: it's not installed by default, it's qtparted08:22
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Dou1stdin: it was on there yesterday lol08:22
drewcipher_Skype is down in US too.08:22
stdinDou1: on the livecd or the install?08:23
underdog5004mistknight, encryption, ssh tunneling, skype, viop08:23
underdog5004erm, voip08:23
Dou1ohhh maybe it was livecd08:23
stdinDou1: yeah, it's on the live cd (as it's used by the installer), but it's not installed on the real system08:24
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kazuma_nothing happened xD08:24
kazuma_the same mistake08:24
kazuma_xD08:24
psyhhixhi08:25
psyhhixhow to get superuser?08:25
kazuma_sudo -i08:25
kazuma_xD08:25
stdin!sudo | psyhhix08:25
ubotupsyhhix: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:25
kazuma_hahaha08:25
mistknightunderdog5004, encryption is so generic I've been lost trying to figure out the results, ssh tunneling? can IP packets be ssh tunneled?08:25
psyhhixi know that08:25
kazuma_genii08:25
kazuma_it failed xD08:25
kazuma_the message appeares again08:26
stdinpsyhhix: then what's the question, if you know how to use sudo?08:26
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psyhhixi got my answer already08:26
psyhhixi needed "sudo -i"08:26
geniikazuma_: OK, please use the pastebin website and cut and paste the contentsa of your file /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to it please08:26
kazuma_hahaha08:26
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Dou1stdin: i think my partition table is messed up, lol. i have /dev/sda1 and then in a drop down menu is /dev/sda5 (which is Linux) and /dev/sda-1 which is free and then /dev/sda6 (which is linux swap)  and then the drop down ends and goes to another /dev/sda-1 which is free and then /dev/sda2 which is my vista install.  is there anything i can do to reorganize it?08:26
stdinpsyhhix: and the link (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo) would have told you that too08:26
genii!paste| kazuma_08:26
ubotukazuma_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:26
kazuma_how do i use pastebin xD08:26
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geniikazuma_: I mant copy and paste too, rather than cut08:27
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geniikazuma_: Whatever you do don't use cut LOL08:27
stdinDou1: post the output of  "sudo fdisk -l" to pastebin (ubotu gave the link ^ )08:27
kazuma_haha08:27
kazuma_what should i put in konsole?:P08:28
geniikazuma_: You know how to copy and paste things from one application to another?08:28
kazuma_secondary click? xD08:28
geniikazuma_: Hightlight what to copy, right click mouse and select copy (or by keyboard in KDE use ctrl-c)   then go to other app, rightclick and select paste (or by keyboard in KDE ctrl-v)08:30
kazuma_what should i type in konsole genii to send you the info:P08:30
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geniikazuma_: Since we are not changing the file you should be able to open it with just the editor called Kate08:30
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kazuma_then i put /etc/X11...?08:31
geniikazuma_: yes08:31
kazuma_that's the way pastebin is used?08:33
kazuma_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33960/08:33
kazuma_xD08:33
geniikazuma_: After you hightlight/copy  from Kate, put cursor in text window of pastebin website, paste there then submit the paste in. then let us know the website address it gives in the URL part of the browser so to get there08:33
geniikazuma_: You are getting the idea :)08:33
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kazuma_xD08:33
kazuma_that's what appeared:P08:33
Dou1stdin: i put it on paste bin, what do i do now?08:34
stdinDou1: post the URL back08:34
Dou1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3396108:35
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geniikazuma_: Hmm, it looks actually OK. but let me go doublecheck for if I originally got the Composite Extension part to paste in there before correct08:35
geniiAFK08:35
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kazuma_ok genii08:35
MyelinHello, i have installed my modem but ppp is not showing as a network interface, what should i do?08:35
stdin!modem08:36
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto08:36
kazuma_stdin do you know how i can configure my windows transparency?08:36
stdinDou1: is /dev/sdb1 another hdd?08:36
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Dou1stdin: /dev/sdb1 is a flash drive and /dev/sdc1 is the floppy drive partition on my flash drive08:37
stdinkazuma_: you may need to add the lines here http://stdin.pastebin.us/38962 to the ' Section "Screen" ' part08:37
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freakyyhi all. I'm currently on gutsy - the ati driver doesn't work I'd like to install the one from ati.com but I can't get to the drivers page as lynx doesn't show it or im just too stupid ;D could someone do me a favour and give me the direct link to the newest mobility driver from ATI? my graphics card is a radeon mobility X700 it would be really nice of you!! thx08:38
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stdinfreakyy: gutsy help in #ubuntu+108:38
freakyydont need gutsy help need someone to give me the direct download link of the newest ati driver ;D08:38
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Myelin<kazuma_>I have followed the instructions but i get an error that "Connection to the host was not found" upon any internet activity08:39
kazuma_what kind of modem is it08:39
kazuma_=o08:39
kazuma_is it an usb modem?08:39
MyelinIts lucent 1646 winmodem08:39
kazuma_mm08:40
kazuma_stdin it's a great help with those things i can help you with usb modems xD08:40
MyelinIt connects ok with kppp but surfing does not take place. I onlt have eth0 configured, how do i add ppp0?08:40
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kazuma_haha08:41
kazuma_stdin in what part of my code should i put that?08:41
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geniikazuma_: Ok, the part i told you to add was correctly put in. But I think you need to put a # at the begginning of lines 148 149 and 150 to comment out the DRI stuff.08:41
kazuma_=o08:41
kazuma_let's see08:41
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stdingenii: doesn't composite need dri?08:41
Dou1stdin:  is it too screwed for any chance of organization? lol08:42
geniistdin: He has glx too08:42
stdingenii: glx in intel is horrible, and not needed :p08:42
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stdinDou1: it does look a little messed up08:43
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stdinDou1: does it still work?08:43
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geniikazuma_: After you logged out from kde before, did you do at the kdm login screen the keys   ctrl-alt-backspace  together to restart the X server?08:43
stdingenii: erm, xgl, not glx...08:43
Dou1yeah.  i just wanted it to look organized but it's alright lol08:43
kazuma_so08:43
kazuma_it has to look like this08:44
kazuma_#Section "DRI"08:44
kazuma_and that?08:44
geniikazuma_: yes08:44
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kazuma_ok08:44
kazuma_well08:44
stdinDou1: if you were to reorganise it, it would require you to wipe it clean and repartition manually (thus wiping all data off it).08:44
geniikazuma_: Putting a # before things means it does not get used08:44
stdinkazuma_: up to the EndSection line08:45
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Dou1ehh no thanks, lol.  maybe in a couple months or something.  but thanks for looking at it stdin08:45
geniikazuma_: You did not answer my just earlier question,08:45
geniikazuma_: After you logged out from kde before, did you do at the kdm login screen the keys   ctrl-alt-backspace  together to restart the X server?08:45
kazuma_yep08:45
stdinDou1: no problem :)08:45
kazuma_i'll try again:p08:45
kazuma_i'll be back friends08:45
geniikazuma_: Ok, because otherwise the changes will not take08:45
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eifzon_I just installed Kubuntu, I did install the updates, then the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com. After that I restarted X and it worked properly, then I rebooted my computer and I couldn't come into X, so I had to change to vesa. What can be wrong?08:47
tobiasdid you select the nvidia driver in your xorg,conf before ?08:48
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Lewixstdin: hey08:48
Lewixstdin, how are you08:48
Dou1what's lost & found?08:48
Lewixhow y'all doing08:48
stdinLewix: i'm good, just had dinner :)08:48
stdinLewix: you?08:48
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Lewixstdin: Finally Ive been able to use aircrack08:49
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Lewixstdin: I mean to crack08:49
Lewixlol08:49
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geniiwork, AFK08:49
stdinDou1: lost & found in the KMenu or on the filesystem ?08:49
Lewixstdin, besides that no much I'm just chilling08:50
kazuma_compositon sucks xD08:50
Dou1in the KMenu08:50
LewixThe UN website have been hacked08:50
kazuma_stdin where should i put the part that you gave me08:50
kazuma_xD08:50
stdinDou1: it's a place where links to applications that aren't formatted correctly go08:50
Dou1stdin: how do I remove those apps?08:51
stdinkazuma_: in the " Section "Screen" " part, at the bottom08:51
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stdinDou1: uninstall them I'd guess08:51
Dou1k thanks08:51
Dou1using apt-get remove?08:51
stdinyep08:51
Dou1ty08:51
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stdinkazuma_: under the last "EndSubSection" on line 13408:52
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stdinkazuma_: but before "EndSection"08:52
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kazuma_=O OK DUDE08:52
stdinkazuma_: it's important, if it's in the wrong place X won't start...08:53
kazuma_wow interesting :S08:53
kazuma_and kindda scary08:53
kazuma_haha08:53
eifzon_.-_-.08:54
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kazuma_do i reboot?08:55
stdinkazuma_: did genii tell you how to make a backup yet?08:55
stdinkazuma_: post what you have now to pastebin, just to make sure :)08:55
kazuma_ok :P08:58
kazuma_no he didn't tell me xD08:58
kazuma_or she i don't know haha08:58
ferenthi people, how can I find the files hasn't got the 755 permission?08:58
stdinferent: "find /place/to/search -type f -not -perm 755" should do it08:58
kazuma_stdin look :P08:58
kazuma_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33963/08:58
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ferentstdin: i will try08:58
ferentthanks08:58
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stdinkazuma_: that looks fine :)09:00
kazuma_yeah?09:00
kazuma_so i reboot man?09:00
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stdinkazuma_: or just restart X09:00
kazuma_ok my friend09:00
kazuma_i'll be back09:00
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kazuma_nothing my friend09:05
kazuma_the same error09:05
stdinkazuma_: are you using Xgl ?09:05
kazuma_how do i check that dude xD09:06
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tobiasin your k-menue09:06
stdinkazuma_: what does "glxinfo | grep direct" say?09:06
tobiasokay, just listen to stdin =)09:06
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kazuma_yes?09:07
kazuma_xD09:07
kazuma_that saysxD09:07
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c1|freakyhow can i prevent packages from beeing installed if i installed other versions?09:07
tobiasdirect rendering: yes ?09:07
c1|freakyim on gutsy where adept isnt installed and shouldnt be installed09:07
stdinc1|freaky: why shouldn't adept be installed?09:08
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c1|freakyi don't know. it was uninstalled on tribe 2 and since now it wasnt installed again09:08
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c1|freakywhen i try to install it says that it shouldnt be installed09:08
stdinit should be09:09
c1|freakystrange09:09
stdinbut gusty help is in +1, where you are as well09:09
kazuma_is that correct stdin09:09
kazuma_:P09:09
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SeanTaterIs it possible to read a pipe between two processes, like a logfile?09:10
stdinkazuma_: then it's something to do with compiz, your X server is set right, ask again in -effects09:10
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stdinSeanTater: don't think so, not a pipe anyway09:11
SeanTaterMore specifically, can I read an stdout?09:11
SeanTater?09:11
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SeanTaterstdin: :-S09:12
SeanTaterstdin: thanks09:12
kazuma_#ubuntu-effects09:13
stdinkazuma_: you can just do /join #ubuntu-effects , rather than need to click it :)09:14
kazuma_hahaha09:14
kazuma_i didn't knew xD09:14
kazuma_i'm newbie =309:14
Ink-Jetsame here09:14
Ink-Jetthis whole thing still confuses me09:15
Ink-Jetthank god for manuals09:15
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SeanTater"We don't need no stinkin' manuals!"09:16
SeanTater:)09:16
AscendedDaniel_how can I turn off power to a usb port?09:16
Ink-JetYeah. When you're still unsure on how to join channels, y'do XD09:16
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geniiback09:17
geniistdin: Still no joy for kazuma_ I see09:18
kazuma_that's something for sure hahaha09:18
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Ink-Jetwell, managed to join #ubuntu and #kubuntu, lol09:20
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kazuma_let's drink a beer xD09:21
kazuma_i'm tired, without success09:21
kazuma_and i don't know what to do xD09:21
kazuma_haha09:21
Ink-Jetbeer sounds good09:21
kazuma_yeah cold with some peanuts to join xD09:22
Ink-Jetactually, cider09:22
kazuma_hahaha09:22
kazuma_why not09:22
kazuma_nice taste09:22
kazuma_xD09:22
Ink-Jet*cheers*09:22
kazuma_cheers dude xD09:22
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Tm_T!offtopic09:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:22
Ink-JetSorry.09:22
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kazuma_yeah sorry09:23
kazuma_well, can someone help me?09:23
kazuma_composite error xd09:23
matias__name DjThree09:23
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DjThreeHolass09:24
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DjThreeAlgunos Aargentino por aca?09:24
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stdin!es09:25
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:25
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[ifr0g] .09:28
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ronin_Anyone here know a fair bit about CD ripping?09:29
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ronin_It seems that K3b, while an excellent application, can't get track data off the CD09:31
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ronin_Info like artist, title etc..09:31
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stdink3b seems to work here09:32
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ronin_Oh? Is there some special package that allows it to get tagging data?09:32
stdindon't think so... let me have a look09:33
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ronin_I'm using a really, really rare CD  and K3b doesn't provide any of the tag data. Putting the same CD on my windows box w/ iTunes, it detects track names etc.. correctly09:33
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stdintry with konqueror09:34
stdinput in the address audiocd:/09:34
jetsaredi1Riddell: I seem to be having problems upgrading to the new kdelibs5 - is there something up with the KDE beta repos?09:34
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stdinjetsaredi1: kde beta repos are feisty-backports09:35
ronin_stdin: What am I looking for?09:35
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stdinronin_: do you see some directories there ?09:36
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jetsaredi1stdin: yea - I know - I have the whole beta1 installed on my system09:36
ronin_I do. There's actually many of them09:36
Riddelljetsaredi1: pastebin the apt-get output?09:37
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stdinronin_: go in to the one with the format you want, copy them, then paste in to the directory you want. how easy is that! :p09:37
ronin_Let me see if it preserves some sort of tag....its not that it can't rip successfully, just there's no info09:38
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simon_i am trying to install a canon LBP-810 laser printer. but i cant find any linux drivers for it09:38
simon_how can i install a printer with out drivers for it? is there a way around it09:38
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jetsaredi1Riddell: http://rafb.net/p/JlnY4Z16.html09:39
jetsaredi1you want my sources.list too?09:39
kazuma_stdin do you know how to install tuxguitar?09:40
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stdinkazuma_: is it in the repos?09:40
jetsaredi1also apt-cache policy shows nothing for dbus-x1109:40
kazuma_let me check09:40
knightzhm... compiz and kubuntu STRANGE effects09:40
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kazuma_i downloaded a .deb09:41
kazuma_and it's installed09:41
stdin!deb09:41
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)09:41
kazuma_the problem is the audio09:41
kazuma_i can't hear anything09:41
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stdindon't know then, haven't used it09:42
kazuma_hahaha09:42
kazuma_xD09:42
slougihow do i define new sessions in konsole?09:42
knightzhow do i get my broaders back ever start compiz ?09:42
slougibroaders?09:42
knightzit just disappered09:42
stdinsimon_: try http://v0xel.wordpress.com/2006/05/23/canoon-lbp-1120-on-ubuntu-510-how-to/09:42
ronin_stdin: Afraid that didn't work. The track came across as "track 01" without any tagging information or anything09:43
simon_thanks09:43
knightzborders09:43
knightzi mean09:43
stdinknightz: that would mean compiz crashed, either do "compiz --replace" or "kwin --replace"09:43
Riddelljetsaredi1: looks like I need to change dbus-x11 to dbus-x11 | dbus09:43
slougiah borders09:43
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knightzcannot coonct to X server that's what is says09:44
knightzcannot conect to X server that's what is says09:44
jetsaredi1Riddell: you want I should file a bug for tracking?09:45
jetsaredi1is there even a dbus-x11 out there?09:45
stdinronin_: hmm, it maybe that the cddb info can't be found, you can try and see if amarok can find it, or just use it to add the data (can be done in a batch)09:45
knightzroot@SCRYPTA:~# compiz09:46
stdinjetsaredi1: seems to be only in gutsy09:46
knightz[: 222: Failsafe: unexpected operator09:46
stdinknightz: not as root09:46
knightzChecking for Xgl: xvinfo:  Unable to open display09:46
knightznot present.09:46
ronin_Amarok can batch tag?09:46
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knightzxset:  unable to open display ""09:46
knightzAIEEEEH, no Log file found09:46
knightzxset:  unable to open display ""09:46
knightzaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity09:46
knightzno /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting09:46
knightzsorry09:46
knightzhm..09:46
Riddelljetsaredi1: I wouldn't bother, I can't fix it quick enough09:46
stdin!paste | knightz, use it09:46
ubotuknightz, use it: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:46
jetsaredi1s/can't/can?09:47
knightzok09:47
ronin_Okay... I've been doing it  by hand in K3b thus far. I guess my main question here is why iTunes can find data, and Amarok/k3b etc... can't? Any ideas?09:47
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kazuma_i check my kubuntu09:47
stdinronin_: add them to the playlist, then select them all and choose "edit information for X tracks" (X is a number)09:47
kazuma_and i can't install automatix09:47
jetsaredi1Riddell: its actually been around for a couple days, but I hadn't bothered to ask around till now09:47
kazuma_a lot of packages i don't have installed09:48
kazuma_why?09:48
stdinkazuma_: good, DON'T09:48
kazuma_haha xD09:48
knightzsame error09:48
kazuma_but for example python2.4-glad or something09:48
kazuma_doesn't appear09:48
ronin_Kazuma_: I've heard it fracks things up fiercely.09:48
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stdinknightz: don't run compiz in a root shell, run it as the normal user09:49
ronin_I'm a newbie, but its probably actually better to do a lot of manual package  installs so you know exactly what you're getting.09:49
knightzsame error in user account09:49
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stdinknightz: pastebin it09:49
kazuma_wow09:49
stdinkazuma_: automatix is evil, don't use it09:49
kazuma_so automatix sucks? xD09:49
kazuma_hahahah09:49
kazuma_ok dudde:p09:50
RiddellTomRiddle: jings, you're named after me09:50
TomRiddledoes anybody know how to prevent KDE from drawing to the desktop?09:50
stdinubotu: tell kazuma_ about automatix09:50
TomRiddlelol09:50
ronin_Stdin pretty much knows his stuff. Probably should listen to him hehe ^^09:50
kazuma_wow09:50
kazuma_stdin you rocks xD09:50
knightzstdin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33969/09:50
TomRiddledoes anybody know how to prevent KDE from drawing to the desktop?09:51
stdinknightz: "root@SCRYPTA:~#" < NOT as root09:51
knightzit's not root09:51
stdinknightz: "root@SCRYPTA" < yes it is09:51
stdinroot@09:51
jhutchinsstdin: apache question?09:52
TomRiddledoes anybody know how to prevent KDE from drawing to the desktop?09:52
stdinjhutchins: you can try, I don't really use it tho09:52
stdin!repeat | TomRiddle09:52
ubotuTomRiddle: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience09:52
knightzstdin same thing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33970/09:52
jhutchinsAh.  Was wondering if auth shouldn't be recursive.09:52
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th_hi09:53
th_what's a good Kubuntu app to organize your iPod?09:53
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jhutchinsTomRiddle: "drawing to the desktop" really doesn't make any sense in this context.  We were mostly waiting for a clearer question.09:53
stdin!ipod | th_09:53
ubotuth_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod09:53
kazuma_i guess i will have to reinstall kubuntu09:53
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stdinjhutchins: no clue :p09:53
th_thanks!09:53
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kazuma_i destroyed a lot of packages09:53
kazuma_xD09:53
knightzstdin?09:53
kazuma_in a process i attempted to do09:53
stdinknightz: where are you running that from?09:53
ronin_AFK for awhile. GOing try and work up a few things. Damn ksynaptics >>:09:54
kazuma_so the best way it's beginning again xd09:54
jhutchinskazuma_: experience is proportional to data deastroyed.09:54
knightzterminal in kde09:54
kazuma_hahaha09:54
ThatLazyGuyI installed KDE in Ubuntu, and now it messed up my fonts. How can i change it back?09:54
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th_stdin, I've actually tried with Amarok but I find that I can't add album art that will also show on the iPod.. Any ideas?09:54
kazuma_well i guess i'm doing well hutchins:P09:54
ronin_th_ : What music format are you using?09:54
stdinth_: not really, I use rockbox on mine09:54
th_ronin_, mp3 mostly09:54
kambeijhutchins: He wants to disable kdesktop09:54
knightzstdin :terminal in kde09:55
ronin_Hmmm.. I'll give it a go.  Mp3s should embed rather easily. Oggs and FLACs do not09:55
stdinknightz: hoe did you get back to the knightz user?09:55
th_rockbox..09:55
slougith_: how did you initialise the ipod? I did mine initially with amarok, but had to redo it with gtkpod for album art to start showing.09:55
ronin_<~iPhone user09:55
knightzi just login knightz09:55
stdin!rockbox09:55
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!09:55
slougith_: that was a while ago though09:55
stdinknightz: no, you have to "exit" from the root shell, as the DISPLAY variable won't be set09:55
th_slougi, I used Windows before and I've used it with iTunes and with Red Char's Anapod Explorer09:55
stdinknightz: type "exit" teice09:56
th_most of the music on it already got album arts09:56
stdin*twice09:56
jetsaredi1Riddell: when will the new kdelibs5 be up in the backports repo?09:56
knightzokok09:56
slougith_: hmm right, in that case amarok should be able to add the cover art, there might be a checkbox somewhere to turn it on, i don't quite recall09:56
th_slougi, ok I'll try some more then ;)09:56
kazuma_stdin how can i copy and paste data to another partition09:57
th_Amarok is a bit eccentric though ;)09:57
knightzstdin it works thnz09:57
kazuma_i have both visible but i can't write on them09:57
knightzi love it ....................09:57
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stdinkazuma_: depends on the filesystem and how it's mounted09:57
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kazuma_cuz it doesn't let me save documents there09:58
kazuma_what should i do man09:58
slougith_: yeah... amarok is a bit weird sometimes09:58
stdinkazuma_: what filesystem and how it's mounted ?09:59
kazuma_ntfs09:59
kazuma_i have two partitions09:59
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kazuma_sd1 sd510:00
stdinkazuma_: have you installed ntfs-3g?10:00
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kazuma_what is that dude xD10:00
stdin!ntfs-3g | kazuma_10:00
ubotukazuma_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:00
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seanpcrowehi all...10:00
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seanpcrowewhat version of KDE does the latest kunbuntu have??? (i wanna get a new theme)10:00
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th_seanpcrowe, try doing "about" in just about any KDE app10:01
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seanpcrowelulz...10:01
seanpcrowe3.5.610:01
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seanpcrowethank you th_ =)10:02
th_yep :)10:02
th_np10:02
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kazuma_is it a manual stdin? xD10:02
NickPrestaseanpcrowe, the latest version for Kubuntu is 3.5.710:02
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seanpcroweNickPresta, ok :)10:03
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stdinseanpcrowe: 3.5.710:03
stdinseanpcrowe: you can check yourself from any KDE app, Help > About KDE10:03
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stdinkazuma_: yeah10:04
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kazuma_i can't close synaptci10:04
kazuma_synaptic10:04
seanpcrowealso, has anyone had problems getting there synaptics touchpad to be reconised??? (kubuntu thinks mine is a standard mouse)10:04
kazuma_how do i force it to quit10:04
kazuma_xD10:04
seanpcrowelulz, two synaptic problems at once10:04
Agnostic_Theistctrl-escape10:04
kazuma_hahaha10:04
grzegorzlwow, so much kubuntu maniacs here ;)10:04
kazuma_control space?10:04
grzegorzlhi10:04
Agnostic_Theist:)10:05
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kazuma_nothing happened xD10:05
Agnostic_Theistctrl-escape on my box brings up a kill screen10:05
WWCrosshi all10:05
kazuma_=O10:05
Agnostic_Theistprocess manager :)10:05
seanpcrowei have tried everything... but any changes to xorg.conf to sort out my touchpad just ends up in x not being able to load :S10:05
kazuma_i found the problem hahahaha10:05
kazuma_silly me xD10:05
Agnostic_Theist:)10:05
kazuma_thanks agnostic10:06
slougihmm when i press the find multimedia button (emits XF86Search button code) on my keyboard the file search util pops up, how do i rebind the key? I can't find where it is bound anywhere10:06
Agnostic_Theistanytime10:06
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stdinseanpcrowe: here's mine to go by: http://stdin.pastebin.us/38964 (also try installing ksynaptics)10:06
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seanpcrowei have tryed installling ksynaptics...10:07
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stdinseanpcrowe: you need the synaptics section in xorg set for it to work too10:07
seanpcrowestdin, i always get this no matter what... http://i17.tinypic.com/676vmkj.png10:08
stdinseanpcrowe: yep, look at the post I gave you, that fixes that10:08
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seanpcrowelulz stdin u have the same GFX as me (which was also a headack lol)10:09
kazuma_well that tool sucks10:09
kazuma_xD10:09
kazuma_i installed it10:09
kazuma_and try to run it10:09
stdinseanpcrowe: in what way?10:09
kazuma_but nothing happened10:09
kazuma_xD10:09
speaker219xD10:09
speaker219xD10:09
speaker219xD10:09
seanpcrowewould not allow 1280x800 (915resulution sorted that out though)10:10
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kazuma_how do i run the tool stidn10:10
kazuma_stdin10:10
kazuma_it's installed10:10
kazuma_but i click it10:10
kazuma_and nothing O.o10:10
seanpcrowestdin, ok, i will add your synaptics touchpad bit of your .conf to my conf (cause i aint got that) then reinstall ksynaptics) then reboot??10:10
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stdinkazuma_: alt-f2, kdesu ntfs-config10:10
seanpcrowestdin, that sound right?10:10
ShaneNHello10:10
ShaneNDoes anyone have any recommendations for a VPN client?10:11
stdinseanpcrowe: or just restart X10:11
ShaneNI am not familiar with any of the linux VPN offerings10:11
LynoureShaneN: to use with what?10:11
seanpcrowestdin, ctrl alt & del??10:11
waylandbillseanpcrowe: ctrl-alt-backspace10:11
seanpcrowelulz... ah ok10:11
ShaneNLynoure: I believe it is a VPN system using IPCop10:11
stdinShaneN: I don't use vpn, but I've heard kppp works10:12
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LynoureShaneN: then not sure, but vpnc works nicely with the cisco pixies :)10:12
seanpcrowe"sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" <----- is this right to back up the .conf?10:13
stdinyep10:13
waylandbillopenvpn works just fine.10:13
seanpcroweok...10:13
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ShaneNwaylandbill: Is that a VPN client?10:14
ShaneNI thought it was a server10:14
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aaronhow do i make KDE stop making sounds every time i close, open, move, or adjust a window?10:15
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grzegorzlturn off the speakers ;)10:16
aaronnegative.10:16
knightznever too old to learn new tricks10:16
aaroni'm a gnome converter10:16
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knightzstdin how do i make a ubuntu 2 cd with my apt packages?10:16
Lynoureaaron: change the settings: System settings -> Notifications10:17
stdinknightz: "ubuntu 2 cd" ?10:17
aaronah, i've been digging around in kcontrol10:18
Lynoureaaron: Found it?10:18
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aaronthink so10:18
kazuma_thanks stdin10:18
kazuma_see ya in about 20 minuts10:18
kazuma_reinstalling kubuntu hahaha10:18
kazuma_xD10:18
aaronyeah. didn't work.10:18
kazuma_i did something i shouldn't do10:19
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Lynoureaaron: What did you do, exactly?10:19
stdinaaron: after you set those changes you may need to logout and back in  for them to take effect10:19
aaronroge rthat.10:19
aaronlemme try10:19
benjamin_hi, what is the simples way to convert ogg to mp3. I tried soundconverter, but it dont work :-(10:19
aaronunder "quick controls" I pressed "turn off all"10:20
benjamin_is there a simple commandline tool?10:20
kaminix3benjamin_: I think you can just use lame for that without any troubles.10:20
Lynoureaaron: apply to all applications being checked helps too, and yes, the Apply after that10:20
stdinbenjamin_: or ffmpeg10:20
waylandbillShaneN: it's both.10:21
kaminix3Theres a ogg2mp3 or something script that will do it for you.10:21
kaminix3benjamin_: lame is cmd10:21
knightzyes stdin. i read some where you can take the apt-packages a make a apt-cd with it when you reinstall *buntu you don't have to redownload all the packages again10:21
stdinknightz: google for "AptOnCD"10:22
The_Machinewhat is a good partition manager for KDE?10:22
The_Machine:)10:22
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speaker219|awayDONT FEAR THE REAPER10:22
The_Machine...i dont.10:23
stdinspeaker219|away: ?10:23
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kaminix3The_Machine: qparted is probably the best graphic. But you could just use "parted" or "fdisk"...10:23
stdinThe_Machine: tried qtparted ?10:23
drewcipher_karamix3:  have you tried:  sudo apt-get install mp32ogg10:23
The_Machinei haven't tried those10:23
The_Machinewill do now10:23
speaker219|awayI NEED MORE COWBELL10:23
stdindrewcipher_: ogg > mp3, not mp3 > ogg10:23
stdinspeaker219|away: what are you on about ?10:24
knightzok10:24
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kaminix3drewcipher_: Yes, both mp32ogg and ogg2mp3. ogg2mp3 isn't in the repos though... I don't think.10:24
The_Machinehmm, running gparted won't let me delete a partition10:25
stdinspeaker219|away: go play in #kubuntu-offtopic10:25
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The_Machinedo i have to have the partition mounted to delete it?!10:25
drewcipher_karaminix:  sorry!10:25
stdinThe_Machine: not while you are using the disk10:25
kaminix3drewcipher_: It's kaminix, not karaminix ;)10:25
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FirefisheI need a list of mirrors for the ubuntu security archive, the ubuntu site is slow today.10:25
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elite101hey10:26
elite101im sadly to say im on windows :(10:26
stdinFirefishe: all the normal mirrors have the -security repo10:26
Firefisheoh, I'm also on a power pc10:26
elite101:P10:26
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elite101im @ the lib i have to format my mp3 player10:26
Firefishestdin: so security is just one server, no mirrors?10:27
elite101i dont own windows so i did it here but i can think of any format programs for windows? but i dont like partition magic it sucks10:27
The_Machinei don't get it..  i'm not using the disk.  it's not mounted, and i want to delete the partition on it.  running it with root..  hmmm10:27
stdinFirefishe: no, all the normal mirrors have it10:27
The_Machineactually, i'd love to extend my ext3 partition i already have linux on - is that easy to do (same physical disk)10:27
Firefishestdin: oh..i follow10:27
stdinFirefishe: XX.archive.ubuntu.com ones10:27
Firefishestdin: I haven't updated this in a while.  Are the powerpc mirrors the same as the rest?10:28
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stdinThe_Machine: it may be using your swap10:28
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aaronok. this damn thing still has more sounds than a chinese circius10:28
The_Machineoh, wait10:28
The_Machineit might have been mounted10:28
The_Machineit was, i'm retarded.10:29
elite101man i hate xchat10:29
stdinFirefishe: yeah, same sources10:29
ScarFreewillanyone having weird apt problems? can anyone install kde-devel? (sudo apt-get -s install kdebase-dev)10:29
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aaronScarFreewill: i can't get kde4 to install, if that counts10:29
The_Machinestdin, so if i boot into knoppix or something, i can use gparted to expand my current ext3 partition with the free space i'm allocated from the ntfs partition i'm deleting right now?  :)10:30
ScarFreewillaaron: have you checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/13251710:30
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Firefishestdin: so powerpc is part of the file hierarchy, eh?10:30
FirefisheI see10:30
stdinThe_Machine: yeah, you can use knoppix or the install live cd10:31
Firefishethanks10:31
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The_Machineoh, right.  good idea w/ the install live CD10:31
The_Machine:)10:31
The_Machinestdin, but my current ext3 partition is extendable like that?  :) :)10:31
stdinFirefishe: the ppc packages are community maintained, but are in the same repos as the other archs10:31
ScarFreewillis ubotu still changing servers?10:31
stdinThe_Machine: should be10:31
macbethAlguien habla espanol?10:31
stdin!es10:32
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:32
The_Machinenice!10:32
The_Machinebbiab!10:32
stdinScarFreewill: what do you mean?10:32
macbethcomo entro ahi10:32
Firefishethanks, stdin, that helps a lot.  I'm currently on the <security.ubuntu.com> archive and it's slow as molasses...and this is cable.  23kB just don't cut it ;)10:32
ScarFreewillstdin: doesn't ubotu usually give a comment if you paste a bug url?10:32
macbethHola10:32
stdinScarFreewill: no in #ubuntu or #kubuntu10:33
macbethAlguien aqui me puede ayudar a instalar programas10:33
stdinScarFreewill: erm, no = not :p10:33
stdin!es | macbeth10:33
ubotumacbeth: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:33
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Firefishestdin: If your apt (giggle giggle), might you have a look at my /etc/apt/sources.list file.  I'm looking for some faster repositories for the security stuff.  http://pastebin.com/mabf2d0b10:35
Firefishechiefly four lines in the middle with "security.ubuntu.com"10:36
stdinFirefishe: what country ?10:36
FirefisheI think the security lines are just d/l it off of the main ubuntu site.10:37
stdinFirefishe: no, what country are you in?10:37
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ScarFreewillstdin: are you running feisty? because if you are can you try to "sudo apt-get -s install kdebase-dev" unless you've already got that pakage installed10:38
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stdinScarFreewill: gutsy here, I do have a feisty server, but it's already got that10:38
stdinScarFreewill: pastebin the error10:39
Firefishestdin: the u.s., but the uk repositories are faster for me for some reason.  Thing is, it's not d/l from the uk repos right now, it's d/l off the ubuntu.com site.  Goes between 23kB and xxxx B (aaaugh!) ;)10:39
ScarFreewillstdin: ok, i got kde4 installed today :D10:39
Firefishestdin: when it hits the uk repos, it's quick as lightning...but the security.ubuntu.com stuff is stifling my progress.10:39
kaminixWill I die if I install KDE 4?10:40
Firefishehow do you like 4, ScarFreewill10:40
FirefisheI haven't played with it yet10:40
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stdinFirefishe: you can use the UK ones for security too, eg: "deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe"10:41
bentarehi! How do I change the default kernel?10:41
kaminixWill SKIM work with KDE 4? It doesn't work with the QT4 apps I use now.10:41
Firefishethanks stdin, I'll change the line.10:41
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stdinkaminix: the KDE4 files are kept separate10:41
stdinbentare: to what ?10:42
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kaminixstdin: What does that have to do with SKIM compability?10:42
bentareeh ...now the default is 386...but I want to boot K7?10:42
ScarFreewillFirefishe: well I hate arts so I'm all for 4 just because their replacing it, also dolphin and plasma is looking good, just on thing dolphin doesn't have a up button by default but hey its still beta :D10:42
ScarFreewillstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33988/10:42
stdinkaminix: in reply to: <kaminix> Will I die if I install KDE 410:42
seanpcrowestdin, it didnt work dude :s10:42
seanpcrowesame as yours but i keep getting that message :s10:43
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stdinseanpcrowe: should work, after you restart X... works fine here, I'm using it now10:44
stdinScarFreewill: hmm, odd indeed10:44
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seanpcrowestdin, i have restarted x... no joy10:44
stdinScarFreewill: do you have any non-ubuntu repos?10:44
ScarFreewillstdin: I think feisty & feisty-backports doesn't look good atm10:44
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seanpcrowekubuntu will just not reconise my touchpad10:45
ScarFreewillstdin: only those 210:45
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stdinbentare: what version on kubuntu ?10:45
BerlliozHi!10:45
bentare7.0410:45
stdinScarFreewill: hmm10:45
stdinbentare: use the -generic one10:45
seanpcrowestdin, i keep getting this, even it is there (like yours) http://i17.tinypic.com/676vmkj.png10:46
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ScarFreewillstdin: i'm using archive.ubuntu.com10:46
ScarFreewillbtw..10:46
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bentareOki...the I need 2 install it I guess...I have all others except generic...I think...have 2 check.10:47
bentareIs it possible to remove the other kernels with adept the oposite way I installed them?10:48
stdinScarFreewill: my kdebase-dev (on feisty) has depends on kate (= 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1) yours seems not to10:48
heroi h8 kate10:48
ScarFreewillstdin: do you have feisty-backports ?10:48
stdinbentare: yes, just locate the linux-image package for it and remove it10:48
stdinScarFreewill: yep10:49
ScarFreewillstdin: hmm10:49
Firefishestdin: thank you for your help, that seems to have helped a bit, it's not doing too badly now :)10:49
stdin:)10:50
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bentareOki! Thanks! Hopefully I will appear here again in a while then ;-)10:50
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ScarFreewillstdin: is there any files but sources.list and sources.list.d/* that would effect my repos?10:51
mkfWhat a wonderful peace of software ;D I've just finished downloading Sabayon and what do you know... Beryl _does_ work fine on ATI cards10:52
mkfNow I have to find a way to make that happen on my Kubuntu ;D10:52
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stdinScarFreewill: not unless you've pinned a version10:53
ScarFreewillstdin: i've remove my prefences too10:53
stdinScarFreewill: then sources.list and sources.list.d/* would be the only place10:53
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stdinScarFreewill: what does "apt-cache policy kdebase-dev" say ?10:54
ScarFreewillstdin: when I do apt-get update then I get stuff like "Translation-en_ZA" hence I live in ZA could that be a problem?10:55
stdinScarFreewill: no10:55
speaker219hello?10:55
stdinScarFreewill: my kdebase-dev is 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 from feisty-backports10:55
ScarFreewillkdebase-dev:  Installed: (none)  Candidate: 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20  Version table: 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages10:56
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BerlliozI've a newbie question: How do I get a wide range irc-serverlist for konversation?10:56
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ScarFreewillmyne is feist normal10:56
ScarFreewillfeisty10:56
ScarFreewill(I just dit an apt-get update before checking it)10:57
stdinScarFreewill: post your sources.list10:57
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lwizardlhi10:57
stdinBerllioz: I think you'd have to manually add them, ask in #konversation tho10:57
lwizardlcan someone help me with making a bootable cd using k3b10:57
Berlliozstdin: Thanks, I will.10:58
psyhhix_how do i get batteri indicator back to the clock??10:58
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ScarFreewillstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33989/10:58
stdinpsyhhix_: alt-f2, put in: guidance-power-manager10:59
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kazuma_hi again10:59
kazuma_xD10:59
stdinScarFreewill: is that it :p10:59
psyhhix_thanks ^^10:59
kazuma_kubuntu has fresh as a lettuce10:59
ScarFreewillstdin: yup :(10:59
kazuma_stdin do you remember the code that you gave me firs time?11:00
stdinScarFreewill: what happened to the rest?11:00
kazuma_something with update? xD11:00
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ScarFreewillstdin: I cleaned it11:00
stdinkazuma_: to do what?11:00
kazuma_when my internet wasn't working well11:00
kazuma_i typed that11:00
jhutchinskazuma_: apt-get update/11:00
kazuma_=O11:00
kazuma_thanks11:00
kazuma_xD11:00
ScarFreewillstdin: do you mean "## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'" bla bla bla... I've got a backup of that stuff..11:00
stdinScarFreewill: I'd at least add feisty-updates and feisty-security11:00
ScarFreewillstdin: ok11:01
jhutchinskazuma_: Then you'll probably want apt-get upgrade11:01
jhutchinskazuma_: It's a good idea to use aptitude instead.11:01
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jhutchinskazuma_: And you'll need sudo11:01
jhutchinskazuma_: so: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade11:01
kazuma_=o11:01
jhutchinskazuma_: && means "do this as long as the preceeding command didn't fail".11:02
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drifany good way to see which files/handles are busy because I can't unmount?11:02
SlimeyPe1edrif: lsof <mount path>11:02
SlimeyPe1eeg lsof /media/cdrom11:02
drifSlimeyPe1e: tried that with various options11:02
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kazuma_=o11:02
kazuma_interesting11:02
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kazuma_cuz an error message appeared11:02
kazuma_xD11:02
stdindrif: sudo lsof|grep /mountpoint sometimes works11:03
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CS5Does anyone know if the repositories have any good software for organizing a book writing project?11:03
ScarFreewillstdin: just making sure main universe multiverse restricted for feisty-updates and feisty-security?11:03
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drifstdin: not this time though :-\11:04
mistknighthello everyone, what software is available on linux that could redirect traffic to a socks server? sort of like freecaps?11:04
kazuma_adept update is the same thing? that the command?11:04
stdinScarFreewill: yeah, they all work in them11:04
ScarFreewillstdin: I don't think I ever had feisty-updates and feisty-security11:04
ScarFreewillI had feisty since alpha311:04
stdinScarFreewill: feisty-security is always default11:05
kaminix!gutsy11:05
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+111:05
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ScarFreewillstdin: yay its working :D11:07
drifstdin: any other suggestions?11:08
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ScarFreewillI guess I can do the kde4 installation without editing the debs :D11:08
stdindrif: what errors when you try to umount ?11:08
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drifstdin: just busy11:09
stdinScarFreewill: editing debs was never a recommended thing anyway :p11:09
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stdindrif: hmm11:09
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drifstdin: actually twice in a row..11:09
kazuma_kd4? O.o11:09
stdinkazuma_: see /topic11:09
kazuma_is it stable?11:09
ScarFreewillstdin: ye but I'm postative i didn't have those...11:09
Assidhrmm11:10
kazuma_isn't kd4 a test version?11:10
Assidanyone know any decent video card >= geforce 6600GT  and priced < $60 ?11:10
stdinkazuma_: kd4?11:10
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kazuma_kde411:10
kazuma_xD11:10
kazuma_finger mistake11:11
stdinAssid: ask in offtopic, and google (or froogel)11:11
kazuma_do you have kde4 stdin?11:11
ScarFreewillstdin: there has been quite some bad software that could maybe have caused the repostory to disapear like there was some brakages... with adept and even the kernel (2.6.20.14) I even isntalled that one and didn't format11:11
stdinkazuma_: i have it available11:12
trekdannehmm what console based (readline or ncursers) jabber (gtalk) client would you recomend?11:12
ScarFreewillanyways thanks a lot for the help !11:12
kazuma_and what is the difference with my kde xD11:12
stdinScarFreewill: no problem :)11:13
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Assidstdin: i dont even know which cards are better than that :P11:13
BluesKajhmm, kde4base-dev won't install due to dependency breaks11:13
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safwanhello11:14
BluesKajkde4 prolly doesn't like my xorg file with the patched and modded fglrx driver :)11:15
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safwanMy adept-manager is greyed out for firefox, how do i install it?11:15
barbhowto have a script run in the systray "konsole session" rather than the desktop window ?11:15
coreymon77safwan: try doing it with command line apt11:16
CS5Does anyone know if the repositories have any good software for organizing a book writing project?11:16
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coreymon77safwan: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox11:17
safwan<coreymon77>apt-get is also retuning an error11:17
thorlinuxpart11:17
coreymon77safwan: try running apt-get update first11:17
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coreymon77and whats the error?11:18
safwan<coreymon77>Oh! ok.11:18
safwan<coreymon77>I will update it first. Thanks.11:18
JohnFluxCS5: latex :-D11:18
coreymon77safwan: btw, you dont need the <>, just my nickname and a colon will do just fine11:18
CS5JohnFlux, TY will give it a shot11:18
kazuma_my internet doesn't work with konqueror11:18
kazuma_why xd11:18
JohnFlux!doesntwork11:19
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.11:19
JohnFluxkazuma_: ^^ :)11:19
BluesKajsafwan,open adept/manage repositories/, check the the first 4boxes ounder the kubuntu software tab11:19
JohnFluxkazuma_: possibly a proxy problem11:20
kazuma_yeah i thought11:20
JohnFlux! proxy | kazuma_11:20
ubotukazuma_: The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.11:20
ubotuAttention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks11:20
barbok if i want konsole to drop into the systray  what's the command ?11:20
JohnFluxkazuma_: opps11:20
JohnFluxkazuma_: wrong message sorry11:20
kazuma_well11:20
kazuma_my problem is11:20
kazuma_that11:20
kazuma_i have internet with an usb modem that gives me signal11:21
CS5JohnFlux, Wow, there are alot of Latex related entries, Any idea's on which would be most needed? ALL, or Some?11:21
kazuma_but11:21
JohnFluxCS5: it's not for the faint of heart11:21
kazuma_all seem good just that i have to use firefox instead of konqueror11:21
kazuma_what should i do xD11:21
CS5JohnFlux, I am not that by any means.11:21
JohnFluxCS5: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=simple+latex+guide&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8  pick a few, browse11:22
CS5JohnFlux, Latex-cjk-all11:22
JohnFluxCS5: cjk means for chinese, japanese and koreans :-)11:22
CS5JohnFlux, Ah ty11:22
drifstdin: it seemed time did the trick.. but I saw nothing occupying the device11:22
CS5JohnFlux, TY for the link going to read.11:23
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JohnFluxCS5: apt-get install kile tetex-bin tetex-base      and run kile11:24
JohnFluxCS5: best way to get started imho11:24
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CS5JohnFlux, TY again...11:25
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psyhhix_whats the shortcut key to change desktops?11:27
trekdanneCtr-F211:28
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trekdannectrl-f3 and so on11:28
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saylaraloha11:28
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CS5aloha saylar11:28
saylari have to say, screen is really a nice feature11:29
trekdannescreen = GNU screen?11:30
saylarthe commandline screen11:30
trekdanneah yea indeed11:30
trekdannenice program indeed11:30
saylaruntil today i always had several instances of putty running11:31
trekdannehmm yea putty + screen can be quite handy at work ....11:33
RytmenPinnenhow do you show hidden files and folders in konqueror, or alternatively in the terminal?11:33
trekdanneRytmenPinnen: in konsole "ls -a"11:34
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saylarls -la on the commandline. a does ther trick11:34
stdinRytmenPinnen: in konqueror, view > show hidden11:34
RytmenPinnenah, thanks11:34
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stdin-A is better than -a11:34
trekdannehmm yea -A is without . and .. right?11:34
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stdinyep11:35
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kazuma_xD11:35
kazuma_ff11:36
kazuma_-.-11:36
trekdanneff = firefox??11:36
kazuma_O.o11:36
kazuma_sorry11:36
kazuma_i was checking11:36
kazuma_the colors of irc11:36
kazuma_xD11:36
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stdinkazuma_: they are disabled in here11:36
kazuma_but in the second message doesn't appeared xD11:36
kazuma_=o11:37
kazuma_i see11:37
kazuma_xD11:37
kazuma_and why i can see your name in red11:37
kazuma_and trekdanne in lighblue11:37
RytmenPinnenhmm, I'm dling a torrent and there's an exec. file in Ktorrent that doesnt show neither in the terminal or konqueror. Ktorrent cant download this file and theres some error saying, "...../dsff is not a directory"11:37
kazuma_xD11:37
Agent_bobis there a backport of kdocker for dapper anywhere ?11:37
stdinbecause i put your nickname in11:37
stdinAgent_bob: do you have backports enabled ?11:37
kazuma_=o11:37
trekdanneRytmenPinnen: can you rephrase that please?11:38
RytmenPinnenhmm :)11:38
jussi01!info kdocker dapper11:38
ubotuPackage kdocker does not exist in dapper11:38
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Agent_bobidk.  doubt it.   but that's not the point.  the official page points at  http://dinton.no-ip.org/  which i can't reach11:38
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Agent_bobpoints to http://dinton.no-ip.org/ for the kubuntu .deb11:39
Agent_bobhttp://kdocker.sourceforge.net/11:39
RytmenPinnenKtorrent is trying to download a file that doesnt exist, at least i think so. And there's an error saying "Alex/Torrents/fredrik thordendal - solniger within is not a directory"11:39
drifhow come scp can transfer just barely 3MB/sec and ftp achieves 10MB/sec?11:39
kazuma_is ubotu a bot? =o11:40
Agent_bobkazuma_ yes11:40
kazuma_wow11:40
stdindrif: scp is encrypted transfer11:40
kazuma_agent bob11:40
kazuma_do you know about beryl and stuff?11:40
drifstdin: yes, but does it really affect so much?11:40
Agent_bobkazuma_ no.11:40
RytmenPinnenthe error itself doesnt point to the hidden(or non existant) exec file but I believe it has something to do with it11:40
kazuma_:(11:40
Agent_bob!beryl | kazuma_11:41
ubotukazuma_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects11:41
Agent_bobthey might be able to help you in  ^11:41
stdindrif: well, each packet has to be encrypted and decrypted, that can slow things down some11:41
trekdanneRytmenPinnen: heh? strange indeed11:41
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aguitelanyone know how to change the boot order in Grub?11:42
Agent_bobstdin plus the encription is in each packet isn't it...11:42
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RytmenPinnenyup :) I've been downloading the torrent for almost 4 months :D ... btw Ktorrent blocks audio for vlc sometimes, dunno why..11:42
stdinaguitel: you can set the default boot option11:42
Agent_bobaguitel yeah edit /boot/grub/menu.lst   and re-arrange the order11:42
drifRytmenPinnen: are you sure it's Ktorrent's doings?11:42
aguitelhow edit this ?11:43
RytmenPinnenpretty, cause all the times I've shut down Ktorrent vlc plays audio fine11:43
stdinAgent_bob, aguitel: that will be reset after an update if you just re-arrange it11:43
drifRytmenPinnen: which version?11:43
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Agent_bobaguitel as root11:43
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aguiteli try11:43
stdinaguitel: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:43
drifRytmenPinnen: didn't restarting just vlc work?11:43
RytmenPinnennope11:43
stdinaguitel: the line you need to edit is the one with "default  0" on it11:44
drifRytmenPinnen: I've faced those audioprobs myself couple of times..but it has always worked after I closed vlc - ktorrent's been runinng on background for ages :D11:44
drif-n11:44
Agent_bobstdin but that doesn't "rearrange" the order it just preselects the default11:44
Agent_bob</shrugs>11:45
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stdinAgent_bob: like I said tho, after a kernel update, the order will be rewritten anyway11:45
RytmenPinnenhmm, that's wierd... im using ktorrent 2.111:45
drifAgent_bob: what do you exactly need to do..re-arrange the order of choices or change default boot option?11:45
drifRytmenPinnen: same here11:46
Agent_boband wont that also be undone when kernels are added   if the order changes then the default number will be a different something ?11:46
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Agent_bobdrif not me.11:46
Agent_bobdrif aguitel11:46
drifsorry :D got confused..11:46
drifAgent_bob: yeah noticed :D after a brief peek above11:47
RytmenPinnenk, I tried to reload the torrent and that exec file is still there, anyone feel like testing you got it too?11:47
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RytmenPinnenI'm probably not allowed to link torrents here tho?11:47
drifRytmenPinnen: testing what?11:47
krakrjakhas anyone gotten the Dell E1505n S-Video out working on Feisty?11:48
RytmenPinnenthe torrent, I reloaded it and that spooky noname exec file is still there11:48
Agent_bobRytmenPinnen probably shouldn't.   spam is frowned upon and if it's something that may be restricted in some locales then dont'11:48
kazuma_i have a dual core processor11:49
kazuma_that makes my laptop 64bits? xD11:49
drifkazuma_: yup, most likely11:50
kazuma_but11:50
kazuma_you see that there's a kubuntu 64bits?11:50
kazuma_but is just for AMD technology right?11:50
drifyour's is dual core?11:50
kazuma_yeah dude11:50
drif-'11:50
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kazuma_but my dual core processor is intel11:51
kazuma_that means the other kubuntu doesn't work for me?11:51
kazuma_xD11:51
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Agent_bobwill it break things if i install the feisty package of kdocker in dapper ?      bet it has bad deps11:51
jhutchinskazuma_: 64 bit distros are very touchy, you should only use them if you really need them and are prepared to deal with issues like multimedia problems.11:51
kazuma_thanks for the advice11:52
kazuma_fuiuf11:52
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jhutchinskazuma_: For regular daily use, use the standard distro.  It will work great with your system and take full advantage of the dual core.11:52
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jhutchinsAgent_bob: Why not just upgrade the system?11:53
drifkazuma_: yeah, my bad I meant duo..as for contrast to amd's X211:53
kazuma_=o11:53
kazuma_thanks dudes11:53
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kazuma_you're great help11:53
Agent_bobjhutchins dialup11:54
jhutchinsHm.11:54
jhutchinsAgent_bob: You'd be better off on a distro that had full cd's available from cheapbytes or somewhere.11:54
Agent_bobjhutchins i know.    debian etch maybe...11:55
Daisuke_Laptopor shipit11:55
Agent_bobDaisuke_Laptop no.11:55
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jhutchinsDaisuke_Laptop: shipit is just the single CD, the whole repositories would be 3 - 4 CD's.11:55
Daisuke_Laptopah ha11:55
Agent_bobDaisuke_Laptop doesn't help much   you get an install cd that you redownload on the first update...11:56
Daisuke_Laptopthe whole of the repos would be 3 or 4 dvds...11:56
jhutchinsI think that's one shortcoming of ubuntu.11:56
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Daisuke_Laptopstill a minor thing, though11:56
jhutchins?11:56
Daisuke_Laptop(for a company to press and ship 3-4 dvds)11:56
Daisuke_Laptopa small fee, sure, but it's feasible11:57
jhutchinsDaisuke_Laptop: It's a massive headache.11:57
CS5JohnFlux, Ty this Kile and Latex, are  exceptional programs, I can see that although it will take some time to use them to their capacity, I can also see how much it will help in the feat I am partaking in. Thank you very much.11:57
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jhutchinsDaisuke_Laptop: They've got to deal with the six month release cycle, overstock and understock.  It's a pain.11:57
krakrjakhas anyone gotten TV out working on Feisty?11:57
jhutchinsDaisuke_Laptop: Some companies like cheapbytes specialize in doing short runs for a reasonable price.11:57
Agent_bobjhutchins not to mention the updates11:57
Agent_bob*buntu updates to much.11:58
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jhutchinsnot as bad as gentoo.11:58
Agent_bobimplies to me that it wasn't really ready when released...11:58
JohnFluxCS5: there's a #latex channel btw if (when) you have problems :)11:58
jhutchinsAgent_bob: I don't think that's really fair.11:58
jhutchinsAgent_bob: Fedora doesn't update much, and never backports, and they basically suck.11:58
Agent_bobjhutchins no ?11:58
CS5JohnFlux, Great to know, You are a wealth of knowledge. TY11:59
Agent_bobhehhe i wasn't comparing to fedora11:59
kazuma_Fedora was good xD11:59
yeniklasorrHow to delete all files in a folder without a spesific file with terminal ?11:59
jhutchinsAgent_bob: So many components are in constant development, and if they went with the most stable version of each one and never backported or updated... well, you'd have Fedora.11:59
kazuma_what is latex? O.o11:59
jhutchinskazuma_: RedHat was good.11:59
kazuma_well that's true too11:59
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JohnFluxCS5: also if you add jam when mashing sweet potatoes, it makes them taste extra nice12:00
Agent_bobhehhe i wasn't actually comparing to any distro.  just think that most of the bugs should be worked out before release. not shortly there after.12:00
kazuma_hahaha12:00
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jhutchinsyeniklasorr: copy the specific file somewhere else and delete the folder.12:00
JohnFluxCS5: there.  my total world knowledge :)12:00
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Agent_bobjhutchins or if you waited until it was stable you'd have debian ?12:01
jhutchinsAgent_bob: From what I've seen, most of the updates aren't ubuntu bugs - they're updates from the upstream projects.12:01
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jhutchinsAgent_bob: I guess, from what I hear.  Never done deb.12:01
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alain__anyone here know ati and compiz conf ?12:02
Agent_bobyeah that's cause upstream is the "testing" version of debian "where they are working out the bugs..."12:02
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JohnFluxAgent_bob: there are 10,000 packages.  there's going to be some updates :-)12:02
kazuma_what's the most used OS?12:02
JohnFluxwindows12:02
kazuma_=O12:03
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Agent_bobJohnFlux so is ok.  the whole system within 5 weeks of release is not acceptable12:03
JohnFluxkazuma_: in the linux world, ubuntu12:03
Agent_bobso/some/12:03
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jhutchins!ati | alain__12:03
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alain__yes jhutchins12:04
stdinAgent_bob: upstream is not debian, it's the people who make it, the actual project12:04
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jhutchinsalain__: Hang on a sec... that was supposed to trigger the bot, but it's dead.12:04
Agent_bobstdin ?12:04
alain__ati xpress 200m on a compaq presario v2000,12:04
kazuma_wow, i began with fedora, the i went to suse, and now to kubuntu now that's a change12:04
Agent_bobstdin what project ?12:04
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alain__when i run compiz i get this message, no composite and no metacity jhutchins12:05
stdinAgent_bob: depends on the package12:05
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jhutchinsalain__: Sounds like something's missing.12:05
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stdincompiz in feisty doesn't work well with kubuntu12:05
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alain__no composite extension12:05
alain__and no metacity12:06
Agent_bobstdin does ubuntu port the bulk of their code from debian sid ?12:06
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stdinalain__: with ati, you need the fglrx driver and xgl12:06
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CS5JohnFlux, sounds good may try it, lol. I am sure you have more in ya if you dig really deep...12:06
stdinAgent_bob: yes, but that's not upstream12:06
alain__i got th fglrx on12:06
alain__because i got rendering12:06
aguitelstd,compiz and beryl don't work well in kubuntu with me12:06
stdin!xgl | alain__12:06
alain__but i aint sure aboutxgl12:06
stdin...12:06
jhutchinsstdin: missingbot12:06
Agent_bobheh   symantics...      where something flows from is always upstream to where it flows to...12:07
raquel_I'm having a problem with Adept - it will not shut down and the aps that I requested to be installed are yet to be installed, I can't kill the Adept (tried contless times) any ideas?12:07
stdinjhutchins: it just rejoined12:07
kazuma_what is compiz fusion?12:07
jhutchins!ati | alain__12:07
alain__how do i find out if xgl is installed12:07
alain__!ati12:07
ubotualain__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:07
jhutchinsPoor bot.12:07
drifsuggestions for flags/options when mounting a storage space over nfs?12:07
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drifstorage/workspace12:08
ubotualain__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:08
stdinAgent_bob: that's not where the fixes come from12:08
alain__i think i got the right driver12:08
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raquel_Any help with Adept??12:08
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Agent_bobstdin the fixes from packages don't come from the updates in debian sid ?12:08
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jhutchinsraquel_: ctrl-alt-esc12:09
stdinAgent_bob: most don't, no12:09
stdinAgent_bob: debian sid take a lot of patches from ubuntu12:09
jhutchinsAgent_bob: Mostly the fixes developed by ubuntu get pushed upstream to debian, or to the original projects.12:09
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Agent_bobah wherl pool12:09
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raquel_jhutchis - erm yeah I can 'close' the window - but it is appearing to be running on the task thingy and I can't kill it -12:10
jhutchinsAgent_bob: Remember most of Linux isn't developed by debian or ubuntu or RedHat, most of it is independent projects.12:10
stdinI think he knows that12:10
waylandbilldebian sid tends to have more new stuff introduced than security fixes. It gets both, but newer unstable code is another issue to be monitored.12:10
Agent_bobjhutchins yeah i'm well aware of that.12:10
rodrigosomeone know very well of Algorithms and Complexity???????12:11
stdin!br12:11
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.12:11
jhutchinsWow.  seven question marks.. Must be important!12:11
kazuma_what is beryl brainstorm?12:11
Agent_bobso back to my origenal Q    anyone know if you can have konsole start in the systray ?12:11
Agent_bobwithout kdocker that is   ^12:12
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stdindon't think you can...12:12
stdinyakuake is what I tend to use anyway12:12
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jhutchinswhat good would a konsole in the systray be?12:12
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kazuma_then use konsole xD12:13
Agent_bobrodrigo might be more helpful to just ask your question rather than fishing for "maybe i can, maybe i can't " answers12:13
jhutchins!adeptfix | raquel_12:13
uboturaquel_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:13
Assidhrmm12:13
Assidi wanna get the mac type dock12:13
waylandbillyakuake is nice for being available at an F12 keypress.12:13
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elite101what desktop enviorment does "Xubuntu"12:14
jussi01!info kibadock | Assid12:14
ubotuassid: Package kibadock does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:14
stdinelite101: xfce12:14
elite101okay12:14
waylandbill!info yakuake12:14
ubotuyakuake: a Quake-style terminal emulator based on KDE Konsole technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 512 kB12:14
Agent_bobjhutchins depends on what is running in the konsole in the systray   now doesn't it...12:14
raquel_Be back going to attempt this ...12:15
Assidno such thing12:15
jhutchinsAgent_bob: I can't understand how that would make any sense.12:15
stdinAgent_bob: yakuake is nice, it "folds" to the op of the screen (so you can't see it) and then can "unfold" back12:15
jhutchinsAgent_bob: a konsole in the systray would be too small to show anything useful.12:15
stdinAgent_bob: activated by a key press12:15

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