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ubotuNew bug: #132800 in apport (main) "Command line automatically included in bug report, violating user's privacy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280012:15
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ubotuNew bug: #132802 in impacket (universe) ""return" missing in ImpactPacket.TCPOptions.get_ts_echo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280212:30
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ubotuNew bug: #132804 in control-center (main) "Gnome forgets system beep settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280412:36
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ubotuNew bug: #132805 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Error writing to disc - There was an error writing to the disc:Unhandled error, aborting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280512:41
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rbs-titoWill someone in QA finish up bug 122208 please? I believe I have triaged it properly12:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122208 in gnome-control-center "Mouse sensitivity & acceleration settings reversed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12220812:41
ubotuNew bug: #132807 in Ubuntu "cant change screen resolution." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280712:46
ubotuNew bug: #132808 in ubiquity (main) "the installer crashed, when I arrive to preparing disk space. when I choos manually (radio button) and next !!!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280812:46
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bdmurrayrbs-tito: What do you mean by finish up?12:56
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ubotuNew bug: #132812 in nautilus (main) "When moving, renaming, deleting files, their backup copies are not modified" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13281201:00
ubotuNew bug: #132813 in Ubuntu "ActiveSync has no FOSS counterpart." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13281301:00
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rbs-titobdmurray: Mark the importance and the status01:02
bdmurrayrbs-tito: Have you checked in Gutsy at all?  I just did and they don't seem reversed to me but I am not sure I know the difference between sensitivity and acceleration.01:04
rbs-titobdmurray: I don't have access to Gutsy01:04
rbs-titoAcceleration is when it gets faster as you drag01:05
rbs-titoSensitivity mean more mouse movement == more cursor movement01:05
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ubotuNew bug: #132638 in gdesklets "crash when opening gdesklets (dup-of: 121070)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13263801:10
ubotuNew bug: #132817 in Ubuntu "microphone doesnt work at all" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13281701:10
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bdmurrayrbs-tito: okay, I think I understand and modified the bug01:19
rbs-titocool01:21
rbs-titoStill no news upstream01:21
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ubotuNew bug: #132822 in evolution-data-server (main) "Evolution crashes gnome-panel on loading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13282201:35
ubotuNew bug: #132824 in gnome-games (main) "gnome-games leaves .pyc files in site-packages when removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13282401:35
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rbs-titobdmurray: You know that resolution bug you just changed to "new" that was previously "Incomplete" ? Why shouldn't it be incomplete?01:53
ubotuNew bug: #132827 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-reportdesigner 0.5.0+OOo2.3.0~src680m224-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13282701:55
bdmurrayrbs-tito: hmm, which bug was that?01:59
rbs-titobug 13280702:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132807 in xorg "cant change screen resolution." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13280702:00
bdmurrayrbs-tito: it was a miss timing issue.  I was working off the mailing list setting the package to xorg at approximately the same time you were commenting on the bug.02:02
rbs-titoAh right, incomplete is the same as the old "needs info" right?02:02
bdmurrayYes, it should be incomplete.  It just so happened that I was modifying the bug at the same time you were.02:04
bdmurraySo I left the state at New and you set it to Incomplete02:04
ubotuNew bug: #132828 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Caps Lock indication invalid when it is used to switch keyboard layouts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13282802:05
neofpohello there.02:14
neofpoI've just made a fix to mplyer / mencoder mp3 problem and posted it at launchpad at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mplayer/+bug/85751. Anyone packager more experienced than me willing to test it?02:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 85751 in mplayer "Distorted MP3 sound" [High,Confirmed] 02:15
neofpo*no dial tone*02:19
ubotuNew bug: #132830 in update-manager (main) "Unresolvable problem calculating upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283002:21
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ubotuNew bug: #132832 in debian-installer (main) "Configuring encrypted volumes in 7.04 debian-installer?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283202:26
ubotuNew bug: #132833 in Ubuntu "login background color is hardcoded" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283302:26
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rbraleyuse case: Ryan has an ubuntu livecd and wants to install it for a friend who wants software raid and an easy graphical installer. He does not want to have to download an alternate cd and waste a disk.02:39
ubotuNew bug: #132834 in drapes (universe) "drapes.exe crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283402:40
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ubotuNew bug: #132835 in Ubuntu "Firefox uses a different user dictionary for spell checking than gedit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283502:45
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ubotuNew bug: #132839 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (main) "missing string (OEM install)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283902:55
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ubotuNew bug: #132840 in ubiquity (main) "/boot partition doesn't need to be formatted ( gutsy tribe 4 )" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13284003:06
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ubotuNew bug: #132836 in gedit (main) "Ubuntu Feisty persistenly opens "unsaved document" in Gedit on every login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13283603:40
ubotuNew bug: #132637 in gtk+2.0 "gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in g_value_peek_pointer()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13263703:56
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ubotuNew bug: #132845 in libvncserver (main) "[gutsy]  bad code in rfb.h (libvncserver-dev)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13284504:11
ScottKrbraley: Then Ryan is out of luck.04:13
ubotuNew bug: #132846 in xemacs21-packages (universe) "Please sync xemacs21-packages (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13284604:15
rbraleydo you know if there is a reason the livecd doesn't have raid support?04:16
ScottKThe live CD installer is a completely different program than the alternate.04:16
ScottKRAID has not been implemented for it.04:16
ScottKThe Live CD installer is a relatively young program (the alternate uses debian-installer) and so it's not suprising it's missing features.04:17
ScottKI don't know if there's a plan for it or not.04:17
ScottKPersonally, I've never had a lot of luck installing off the Live CD and tend to use the alternate.04:17
rbraleyI've never had a lot of luck installing from the alternate04:18
ScottKHeh.04:18
Flannelrbraley: sounds like bad burns04:18
rbraleyI have had over 20 hours of fighting with it while my friends lose faith in linux04:19
=== RAOF has never failed to install from a (final) alternate cd.
xtknighthm first time i booted the alternate is all made sense to me.  raid was largely self explanatory04:19
xtknightthere needs to be a gui after all this time, though04:19
ScottKIn many respects you're probably better off from a data reliabiliity perspective not using RAID and rsyncing data to the 2nd hard drive a regular intervals.04:20
Flannelxtknight: alternate does have a GUI04:20
RAOFxtknight: There is, it's just a curses gui :)04:20
rbraleybut grub cannot boot from raid and that isn't explained anywhere in the installer04:20
RAOFAlso, Like CD.04:20
xtknightwell wish this attitude we will scare people away04:20
xtknightwith*04:20
ubotuNew bug: #132847 in Ubuntu "downloaded updates, now X11 does not load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13284704:20
ubotuNew bug: #132848 in gnome-panel (main) "calendar is shown behind current focused window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13284804:20
RAOFs/like/live/04:20
xtknight<- -doesn't care about GUIs, others may04:20
ScottKTime spent writing code is better spent than just complaining.04:21
rbraleytrue04:21
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ScottKI'm sure if someone wanted to write a patch to add RAID support for the Live CD installer, Ubuntu would take it.04:22
rbraleymaybe I can steal some code from anaconda or somesuch and figure it out04:22
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ScottKOf course I just realized, I've never actually installed Ubuntu the way most people think of it.04:23
ScottKI use Kubuntu on the desktop and I've installed Ubuntu-server many times, but never Gnome Ubuntu.04:24
rbraleyI can code, but I don't think I can do it right if I am unable to install it correctly as is.04:24
ScottKWhat kind of hardware are you trying to install into?04:24
xtknightuntil then maybe there is some way we can use mdadm before ubiquity, and just put up a HOWTO on it.  make slight mods to ubiquity to support installation to /dev/md*, etc04:26
rbraley2 SATA drives where the intel raid controller has turned off raid for the pair.04:27
ScottKAh.04:27
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ScottKInstalling anything into a RAID controller can end up with complications.04:28
ScottKI've done it several times with no trouble, but only into regular controllers.04:28
rbraleythere are 4 drives, a windows raid array through the intel controller, and the linux drives which we have disbanded in the raid bios04:29
xtknightyou want SW raid or HW raid?04:29
rbraleysw04:29
ScottKHave you Googled for specific install issues with your controller?04:29
xtknightwhat problems did you encounter while using "alternate"?04:29
rbraleywell periodically when I try to delete erroneous raid arrays md0-3 I get "cannot perform action, device is busy" with a red screen04:31
rbraleyclearing the partition table seems to do nothing to fix this issue04:31
xtknightyou're trying to install fresh and it's coming up with zombie arrays?04:31
rbraleyI will need to boot a different cd to erase the hard drives04:31
rbraleyyes04:32
xtknightdo you care about any data on there?04:32
xtknightim not sure what you meant by clearing the partition table but you might wipe the mbr04:32
rbraleyalso when I thought I had done it right and the alternate installed seemingly correctly, I get no operating system04:33
xtknighthmm04:34
xtknightnot sure how it details with /boot04:34
xtknightif grub doesnt support raid, i have no idea how my setup is working right now04:34
ScottKxtknight: You have a very small non-RAID /boot I'd imagine.  Let me look at one of mine.04:35
xtknighthmm04:35
xtknightyeah i do04:35
xtknighti must have anticipated it04:35
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xtknighti  thought i remember the installer telling me i had to04:36
xtknightbut i don't remember, to be honest04:36
rbraleyoh god I am now told that grub was written to the windows raid mbr, ruining everything04:37
xtknightugh04:38
xtknighti had that happen04:38
rbraleydid you fix it?04:38
xtknightgrub on ntfs boot sector = bad04:38
xtknightyea04:38
xtknightlinux util "testdisk"04:38
xtknightrecovered the partition, and its file table.  it was showing up as 10M FAT12 or something04:38
xtknightgot it bad to ntfs, lost 10m of data at most04:38
xtknightback*04:38
rbraleyhuh04:39
xtknightbut it wasn't raid.  i dont know how or if testdisk can handle that04:39
rbraleyoh god04:39
xtknightmine was triggered by "fixboot"04:39
xtknightunless your windows raid was on (hd0) at all you wouldnt have a problem04:39
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ubotuNew bug: #132849 in libmtp (main) "[needs review]  libmtp 0.2.1 udev rules file fix [needs upload] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13284904:40
rbraleyit was hd004:41
xtknightare you sure you cant access the data?04:42
rbraleyi don't know04:42
ScottKWhat version of Windows?04:43
rbraleyxp04:43
jjesseare you having dual boot problems?04:44
jjessesorry just joined04:44
rbraleyyes04:44
ScottKIIRC WIndows repair/recovery or whatever they call it in XP (Win2K was the last Windows I've owned) can fix that.04:44
ScottKSo at least you get back to no harm done.04:44
xtknightah ya04:44
xtknightyou can try fixmbr or fixboot at recovery console.  raid drivers have been laoded at that point04:45
jjesseif you do a repair, it will try and rebuild the mbr which will mess up ubuntu04:45
xtknightbut fixboot on my grubbed NTFS partition caused my near data loss so id be careful.04:45
ScottKjjesse: He hasn't actually got an Ubuntu install yet.04:45
xtknightim not sure how you get to recovery console with a corrupted partition table though.  dont know if that is possible04:46
rbraleythe install may have worked had grub been installed on the drive ubuntu was going on04:46
jjesseScottK: oh04:46
jjesserbraley: when you boot w/ the restore disk or xp disk you can repair your installation of windows04:47
jjesseand that should restore things so you can access xp again04:47
rbraleyI did that once and it ruined everything04:47
rbraleyfixmbr04:47
rbraleymaybe if the mbr of only the first drive was written to I can copy over the mbr from the second04:48
rbraleyoh wait it was raid0 crap04:50
rbraleyok I am going over to try and fix the problem, any last words?04:53
ScottKrbraley: Why RAID?04:54
rbraleyhe wanted the performance04:54
ScottKIs it enough difference to even notice?04:56
rbraleybut now this is worse, to fix the mbr of the xp drives I can't see them from linux since it is intel fake raid04:56
rbraleyyes04:56
ScottKI tend to look at reliability and availability and complexity is the enemy of both.04:56
rbraleynot for fedora, suse, mandriva etc\04:57
ScottKNot for Ubuntu either generally (I've got a couple of boxen with RAID).04:58
rbraleyraid works for them, now I have caused a great deal of harm by trusting the alt cd04:58
ScottKI've just decided to quit doing at.04:58
ScottKI'd suggest doing some googling on the exactly controller model you are dealing with.04:58
rbraleywell I need to recover his data04:58
ScottKI suspect you'll find something.04:58
ScottKSure, for the WIndows RAID, I agree.04:59
ubotuNew bug: #132850 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285005:10
ubotuNew bug: #132773 in totem (main) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_check()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13277305:25
ubotuNew bug: #132853 in libmtp (main) "[needs review]  libmtp 0.2.1 udev rules file fix [needs upload] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285305:25
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ubotuNew bug: #132854 in libgig (universe) "Please sync libgig (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285405:46
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ubotuNew bug: #132855 in mt-daapd (universe) "Please sync mt-daapd (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285505:55
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ubotuNew bug: #132856 in passepartout (universe) "Build with GNOME support" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285606:20
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ubotuNew bug: #132857 in Ubuntu "webcam not detected in lsusb, strange dmesg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285706:25
ubotuNew bug: #132858 in gem (universe) "Please sync gem (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285806:25
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ubotuNew bug: #132859 in gpar2 (universe) "gpar2 is not font-size independent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13285906:36
ubotuNew bug: #132861 in totem (main) "video read slower than audio with Divx avi" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13286106:36
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ubotuNew bug: #132862 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed when rendering an svg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13286206:46
ubotuNew bug: #132864 in Ubuntu "installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13286407:00
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ubotuNew bug: #132866 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "ACPI resume hangs on HP Compaq nc6220" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13286607:40
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ubotuNew bug: #132867 in hpijs (universe) "hpijs reports missing libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13286707:50
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ubotuNew bug: #132868 in gnome-panel (main) "dpkg didn't complete Java-Installation cause of a .doc file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13286808:25
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TheMusoc08:41
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ubotuNew bug: #132874 in gedit (main) "[gutsy]  gedit is totally unresponsive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13287409:30
ubotuNew bug: #132875 in irssi (main) "desktop icon appears and disappears" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13287509:35
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ubotuNew bug: #132876 in irssi (main) "window loses control after f11 restore in jiggle mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13287609:45
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ubotuNew bug: #132877 in Ubuntu "Gforce 8 series screen blanks "out of sync" during usplash boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13287709:51
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ubotuNew bug: #132881 in cheese (universe) "[needs review]  Cheese 0.2.0 [needs upload] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288110:25
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ubotuNew bug: #132882 in bcm43xx-fwcutter (universe) "please sync bcm43xx-fwcutter 1:006-3 from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288210:40
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ubotuNew bug: #132883 in hylafax (universe) "please sync hylafax 2:4.4.0-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288310:47
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ubotuNew bug: #132884 in p7zip (universe) "Can't compress to .7z with a space in there name" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288411:00
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erika14212these third party install methogs reallu hurt ubuntu11:02
erika14212idiots creat them11:02
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Hobbseeerika14212: ?11:10
erika14212hi11:10
erika14212no i was referring11:11
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erika14212to those who created windows installer for ubuntu11:11
erika14212they really hurt linux11:11
erika14212since the babage prpgram dont worl11:12
Hobbseei believe it's a work in progress11:12
Hobbseebesides, it's not like we can really stop them11:12
erika14212they are idiots11:13
erika14212ihave lready ruined one hard drive11:13
erika14212one launches a network work in stall11:14
erika14212i cn login11:14
erika14212then cant get no further11:14
erika14212i have grub installed11:15
norsettoerika14212: are you talking about wubi?11:15
erika14212lubi11:15
Hobbseeerika14212: this isnt a support channel, btw11:15
erika14212ok11:15
ubotuNew bug: #132886 in popularity-contest (main) "popularity-contest cron job fails with permission denied " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288611:15
erika14212its ok11:15
norsettoerika14212: I think it would help a lot if you can file a nug, so that these issue can be worked out11:15
Hobbseeerika14212: gutsy is a development release, it's nto all supposed to work.11:16
erika14212i have already said my peace11:16
norsettoerika14212: a bug (I'm in my typing mood again)11:16
erika14212it was not very nice11:16
erika14212to them11:16
erika14212i can atleast warn others11:17
Hobbseeerika14212: still, whining about bugs in here does nto help.  file a bug report.11:17
Hobbseea decent one11:17
erika14212of the crap software11:17
Hobbseeerika14212: your warning others here wont help11:17
norsettoerika14212: here: https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug11:17
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erika14212it is list on the forums11:18
Hobbseeerika14212: in which case you should whine there, not here, as we dont touch it.11:18
norsettoit isn't, but they use launchpad and they are quite helpful ( I dealt with them in the past)11:18
norsettoerika14212: follow that link and post your bug, please make sure you give all the necessary information so that they can fix it11:19
Hobbseeerika14212: also, your conduct in #ubuntu is unacceptable.11:19
Hobbseeerika14212: it's a support channel.  it's busy enough without you whining about how the windows installer (which no on there touches anyway) breaks things.11:20
ubotuNew bug: #132885 in feisty-backports "Please backport Pulseaudio (dup-of: 107207)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288511:20
ubotuNew bug: #132887 in hal-info (main) "T60p display brightness should be handled in hardware." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288711:20
erika14212ok11:21
erika14212sorry11:21
Hobbseeerika14212: it'd be more productive if you also went and improved the installer, rather than talking about how bad it is11:22
erika14212im not programer11:22
erika14212but i will use bug report11:23
erika14212thing11:23
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_dummyI'm currently doing some tests on Tribe4 (server-i386), anyone who have done some tribetesting here?11:24
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_dummyor maybe someone can point me where/how to file bugs found in Tribe4? :)11:26
Hobbsee!bugs11:26
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots11:26
Hobbsee_dummy: if you can add [tribe 4]  into the summary, then that is helpful11:27
_dummyok, so I shouldn't use the ISOtesting site for those bugs? (sorry, but I'm a bit confused here :P)11:27
Hobbsee_dummy: it's useful if you can add them on there.  it actually has bug # fields there, for launchpad bugs.11:29
Hobbseeas in, file the bug in launchpad, on the link above, and then add the numbers to the ISO testing tracker11:29
_dummyHobbsee: ahh, thank you - that was helpful :-)11:30
Hobbsee:)11:30
Hobbseeno problem11:30
ubotuNew bug: #132888 in firefox (main) "[gutsy]  firefox randomly hangs when opening new windows / popups" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13288811:31
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ubotuNew bug: #132891 in alacarte (main) "Alacarte crashes with UnicodeDecodeError" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13289112:20
ubotuNew bug: #132892 in ctypes (universe) "Please sync ctypes (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13289212:20
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ubotuNew bug: #132894 in Ubuntu "No color printing on Epson Aculaser C1900" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13289412:36
ubotuNew bug: #132896 in nautilus (main) "Right click -> open With ... doesn't work in gutsy (after upgrading feisty to gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13289612:36
TheMusoc/12:37
TheMusough12:37
TheMusoOld workflow must die soon.12:37
RAOFApropos of?12:38
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ubotuNew bug: #132900 in cupsys (main) "Gutsy: Printing not working with HP 1320n (after upgrade the 16/8)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290001:00
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ubotuNew bug: #132901 in file-roller (main) "[gutsy]  Cannot set / remeber from Nautilus the default application with which to open archived files in file-roller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290101:21
ubotuNew bug: #132902 in adept (main) "gutsy has broken dependency in adept-notifier" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290201:26
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ubotuNew bug: #132904 in apport (main) "Ignore crashes for software which changed before reporting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290401:35
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ubotuNew bug: #132905 in base-installer (main) "Kubuntu install partitioning tool problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290501:50
ubotuNew bug: #132906 in gparted (main) "New mounted fat32 partition is not writeable for non-root users" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290601:50
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ubotuNew bug: #132907 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "package compiz-fusion-plugins-main 0.0.1 git20070730~3v1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/compiz/colorfilter.xml , which is also in package compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290701:55
ubotuNew bug: #132908 in nautilus (main) "Ubuntu desktop doesn't know what to do with already mounted Audio Disc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290801:55
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ubotuNew bug: #132909 in Ubuntu "frozen mouse pointer at login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13290902:01
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ubotuNew bug: #132911 in farsight (universe) "Please sync farsight (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291102:11
ubotuNew bug: #132912 in telepathy-stream-engine (universe) "Please sync telepathy-stream-engine (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291202:11
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ubotuNew bug: #132910 in gnunet (universe) "Please sync gnunet (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291002:15
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xxxxx1mornin'02:28
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ionstormremote root exploit for wireshark prior to 0.9.9.6 in the wild http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3198806#post319880602:41
Hobbseeionstorm: please file a bug, and mark it as a security bug.02:43
ionstormok02:43
ScottKIt's in Universe so there's no security support except for what the community provides.  Patches accepted.02:43
HobbseeScottK: you could backport the latest version to the other arches, as a start, though02:45
ScottKHobbsee: That would be wrong.02:45
ubotuNew bug: #132914 in rhythmbox (main) "ipod: lyric not copied" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291402:45
HobbseeScottK: well......yeah.02:45
ScottKBackports is not for fixing serious/security bugs.02:45
HobbseeScottK: but are you thinking that anyone will cherrypick a patch?02:46
ScottKSo far when I've said "Backport request is Won't Fixed until someone does the SRU", it's worked.02:46
Hobbseeheh :)02:47
ScottKBesides, Ethereal/Wireshark have a stunningly long and painful history of major security issues.  Anyone who runs it in a hostile environment doesn't know what they are doing.02:47
ScottKI just use it on my side of my NAT router.02:48
ScottKI use tcpdump on the dangerous side.02:48
ScottKionstorm: I wasn't kidding about patches.02:49
ScottKIf someone can find the relevant changes out of 0.9.9.6 for the earlier versions, I will help get them packaged and released.02:49
ionstormScottK, new protocol support and whatnot http://www.wireshark.org/docs/relnotes/wireshark-0.99.6.html02:50
ionstorma few new features02:51
ScottKRight, what I'm interested is the bits out of there that fix the vulnerability.02:51
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ionstormah ic, i dont know much about code02:51
ionstormit says it is patched on there website02:51
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ionstormat that url, gives more info on what was patched and how02:52
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ScottKRight and I'll help someone who's motivated to figure it out, but I'm not doing the whole thing.02:52
ionstormok02:53
ubotuNew bug: #132916 in openoffice.org (main) "Writer: Merging cells in a table in trouble when saved in RTF,or DOC format" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291603:01
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ubotuNew bug: #132102 in gedit "gedit crashed with signal 5 in shortcuts_drag_data_received_cb()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13210203:21
ubotuNew bug: #132917 in conduit (universe) "use epiphany's feed-presence icon for RSS feeds" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291703:21
ubotuNew bug: #132919 in xen-common (universe) "package xen-utils-common None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xen-utils-common.list]  failed to install/upgrade: tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/share/man/man5/xmdomain.cfg.5.gz', che si trova anche nel pacchetto xen-utils-3.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291903:21
ubotuNew bug: #132921 in tracker (main) "libdeskbar-tracker is broken in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292103:21
ubotuNew bug: #132923 in pdftk (universe) "pdftk aborts on start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292303:25
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ubotuNew bug: #132924 in Ubuntu "German umlauts not displayed correctly in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292403:30
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TheMusoc03:35
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ubotuNew bug: #132928 in devscripts (main) "debcommit: add options to specify changelog path" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292803:48
ubotuNew bug: #132929 in glchess (universe) "glchess crashes on startup in gutsy (dup-of: 130275)" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292903:48
ubotuNew bug: #132930 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "nv driver misdetects panel size of dell 2007fp monitor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293003:48
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ubotuNew bug: #132935 in xine-lib (main) "Xv Supports YV12; X Server Does Not" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293503:55
ubotuNew bug: #132932 in gnumeric (main) "cannot set page setup margins properly in mm, cm and in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293203:56
ubotuNew bug: #132934 in ubiquity (main) "crashed in live CD Kubuntu 64 install manual layout" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293403:56
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ScottKbeep03:58
bddebianBoo03:58
bddebian:-)03:58
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ubotuNew bug: #132936 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "Problem when mounting a remote directory under /media" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293604:10
ubotuNew bug: #132933 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293304:15
ubotuNew bug: #132937 in ruby-gnome2 (universe) "gtk2 is broken with ruby" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293704:20
ubotuNew bug: #132938 in firefox (main) "tooltips dont work in sidebar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293804:20
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ubotuNew bug: #132939 in gdm (main) "[gutsy]  Suspend does not work from GDM login screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13293904:26
ubotuNew bug: #132940 in libvncserver (main) "x11vnc has no -ssl option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294004:26
ubotuNew bug: #132941 in update-notifier (main) "Package 0.59.2 broken" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294104:26
ubotuNew bug: #132942 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier upgrade failed " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294204:26
ubotuNew bug: #132823 in gimmie (universe) "gimmie_applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13282304:31
ubotuNew bug: #132943 in sabayon (main) "sabayon does not save upon "save"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294304:31
ubotuNew bug: #132944 in Ubuntu "Xubuntu forces shutdown, no waiting for saving document in OpenOffice" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294404:31
ubotuNew bug: #132945 in sabayon (main) "sabayon does not detect certain file changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294504:31
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ubotuNew bug: #132946 in sabayon (main) "sabayon gconf restrictions are unmaintenable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294604:36
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ubotuNew bug: #132947 in mail-notification (universe) "mail-notification lost its ssl/tls ability" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294704:45
ubotuNew bug: #132948 in icecc (universe) "icecc misses dependency on g++" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294804:50
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ubotuNew bug: #132951 in update-notifier (main) "Update-notifier{,-common} packages dependency problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13295104:55
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erika14212mornin all05:03
erika14212i wanted to say i did report the bug05:03
Hobbseeyay~05:03
erika14212ill report today05:03
erika14212an tommorrow05:03
erika14212till i get i get on response on that site05:03
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Hobbseeoh no you wont...05:05
seb128?05:05
Hobbseeerika wont keep whinging over 3 channels about a pet bug.05:06
seb128ah, k05:06
bddebianhrm05:07
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Hobbseemvo: seb128, meet Some_Person05:08
Hobbsee(from -devel)05:08
seb128libcompizconfig0 installed version?05:08
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HobbseeSome_Person: ^05:09
mvohello Some_Person05:11
Some_Personhello05:11
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ubotuNew bug: #132920 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in giop_recv_buffer_get()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292005:21
ubotuNew bug: #132954 in gnome-panel (main) "after any install got error masg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13295405:21
ubotuNew bug: #132955 in vym (universe) "Request VYM package upgrade to version 1.9.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13295505:21
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norsettoHello, my name is erika and I have a problem with my microwave oven05:29
norsettoyou guys should really fix it you know05:30
Hobbseenorsetto: tough :P05:30
ubotuNew bug: #132958 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon T.4 gives me 3 segfaults, then boots" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13295805:31
norsettohow did you guess it was me!?05:31
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Picishe is smrt05:34
ubotuNew bug: #132922 in Ubuntu "Gestor de Paquetes Synaptic con error." [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13292205:35
ubotuNew bug: #132960 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  lockup computer when connect to wireless network with ralink card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296005:35
ubotuNew bug: #132915 in Ubuntu "WireShark versions prior to 0.99.6 vulnerability" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13291505:36
ubotuNew bug: #132962 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "infinite loop on quit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296205:41
ubotuNew bug: #132964 in Ubuntu "Please sync ttf-inconsolata (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296405:50
ubotuNew bug: #132965 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird message filter only reads first line of message header value" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296506:00
ubotuNew bug: #132966 in Ubuntu "Keyboard stops working after any wireless device is removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296606:00
bdmurraymicrowave?  what did I miss?06:08
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norsettobdmurray: look around 09:00 gmt06:12
bdmurrayHrm, I'd like to see that bug report. :)06:14
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norsettobdmurray: and then around 15:00 gmt ....06:15
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norsettobdmurray: and if you have the guts check out #ubuntu and #ubuntu-us too :-)06:16
bdmurrayI'm not sure I am gutsy enough06:17
norsettohehe06:19
norsettobut the bug report is a masterpiece: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/13288906:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132889 in wubi "wubi iso file missing" [Undecided,New] 06:20
ScottKFortunately it's not an Ubuntu bug, so we can ignore it.06:20
norsettoand a little follow-up, you know, to speed up things a bit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/13295006:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132950 in wubi "wubi still not working correct" [Undecided,New] 06:20
ubotuNew bug: #132968 in mysql-query-browser (universe) "mysql-query-browser ubuntu 6.10 ppc crash on close" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296806:21
ubotuNew bug: #132969 in cupsys (main) "AppAmor rules for CUPS seems to be to restrictive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13296906:21
ubotuNew bug: #132972 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.V3gxzl.crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13297206:21
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Hobbseenorsetto: ouch06:23
norsettoHobbsee: I stamped on your feet?06:24
=== Hobbsee could just reject it and say "file a decent bug"
Hobbseenorsetto: no, those bugs06:24
=== Hobbsee marks one as a dupe of the other
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aaaantoine132950: duplicate of 132889.  132889: "how about some more information there?" :P06:25
ubotuNew bug: #132974 in Ubuntu "Verbose Mode On Boot When Set To Quiet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13297406:25
=== Hobbsee duped the latter as one fo the former
ubotuNew bug: #132976 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "Flash applet can not access webcam" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13297606:30
ubotuNew bug: #132979 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Please consider making ubuntu-desktop recommend canoe" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13297906:30
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shirishseb128: are you up buddy?06:31
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shirishanybody wanting to work on this sabayon bug bug/12942106:33
seb128shirish: hi06:33
shirishhi seb12806:33
seb128bug #12942106:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 129421 in sabayon "sabayon is not purged correctly when uninstalling" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12942106:33
Hobbseeshirish: feature freeze is later today.  probably not06:33
shirishHobbsee: cool06:34
seb128Hobbsee: everybody is not working on new features ;)06:34
Hobbseeseb128: and new upstream versions06:34
Hobbseeseb128: you can do sponsorships, then :P06:34
shirishseb128: I just replied to what you asked, please lemme know if you need some more info.06:34
shirishseb128: or you need me to perform some stuff so it would give you some more info. about that bug06:35
seb128shirish: you reply is not clear, the directory is empty and it refuses to remove it?06:35
seb128Hobbsee: I could ;)06:35
shirishseb128: exactly06:35
seb128shirish: that makes no sense06:35
ubotuNew bug: #132981 in Ubuntu "Sound stops playing on minimal system load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13298106:35
ubotuNew bug: #132982 in upstreamdev (universe) "New upstream release: 0.2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13298206:35
shirishseb128: I know ;)06:35
seb128shirish: I've no idea about what to ask and no real interest in the bug, feel free to reopen if you figure what is wrong though06:36
shirishseb128: I could manually delete it if needed, sudo rm /var/run/sabayon-admin06:36
seb128the postrm uses "userdel -r sabayon-admin || true"06:36
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seb128so it should break in no case06:36
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seb128shirish: does calling "userdel -r sabayon-admin" work correctly?06:37
shirishseb128: lemme check06:37
shirishseb128: it gives me this06:38
shirishuserdel -r sabayon-admin06:38
shirishuserdel: unable to lock password file06:38
seb128sudo06:38
shirishoops, that did the trick06:38
seb128that's what the script does ...06:39
Hobbseenorsetto: then again, we could always use the "your bug did not have enough info" preresponse06:39
ccookeshirish: Sorry I missed you yesterday - you caught me just after I left work06:39
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shirishccooke: thats ok, I marked that bug invalid as I guess its really a support thing.06:39
ccookeshirish: I noticed there was some help in the README included in the package - did you look there?06:40
shirishccooke: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+question/1159206:40
ubotuNew bug: #132983 in Ubuntu "video playback is not fluent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13298306:40
shirishccooke: yup, read that, read the changelog, read the mount.gmailfs manpage, read richard's stuff on his web-site but became no wiser.06:41
shirishseb128: lemme get the first update-notifier stuff done (would probably take an hr. to hit my country's mirror) and then try again, for atleast with aptitude it doesn't remove sabayon & doesn't give any error messages06:43
norsettoHobbsee: I would just leave it to Agostino.06:43
Hobbseenorsetto: will he do the blasting, then?06:44
seb128shirish: could you try using apt-get rather than aptitude? in case that make a difference06:44
norsettoHobbsee: don't think so, I've dealt with him in the past and he was quite helpful06:44
Hobbseeawww06:44
Hobbseeno fun06:45
Hobbseeis there anything i should upload, before goign to bed?06:45
shirishseb128: I did try sudo apt-get remove sabayon also06:45
shirishseb128: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33949/06:45
ubotuNew bug: #132984 in ltsp (main) "[Feature Request]  Need some kind of server chooser / failover system in ldm login." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13298406:45
norsettoHobbsee: bug 70367 ?06:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 70367 in imlib "imlib1 does not correctly handle 32-bit visuals" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7036706:46
norsettoHobbsee: or leave it to ScottK, he may want to give it a look06:46
Hobbseenorsetto: meh.  that doesnt hit the "no new versions" freeze06:47
xtknightwhat's the status of Bug 60258 and what status should it be, at this point?06:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 60258 in gnome-art "Ruby crashes while using gnome-art-manager" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6025806:47
shirishseb128: if you are going to be around for a while, maybe I'll check back in a hr. & give a status update after update-notifier dependancy issue is resolved with the newer one.06:47
norsettoHobbssee: sorry, I thought you meant in general06:48
seb128shirish: k, even if I'm not around you can comment on the bug06:48
Hobbseenorsetto: i probably did :)06:48
Hobbseenorsetto: this says i should probably go to bed :)06:48
shirishseb128: will do, thanx for your time :)06:48
seb128xtknight: too much to do, not used by many people and I don't know ruby06:48
seb128shirish: you're welcome06:48
norsettoHobbsee: so early!? Its not even 2am down there in oz!?06:48
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Hobbseenorsetto: hehe.  it's 2.49am06:49
xtknightwhy wasn't it just closed?  confused06:49
Hobbseextknight: the fix released part is in debian06:49
Hobbseextknight: the ubuntu part shows as new06:49
seb128xtknight: because it's not fixed?06:49
norsettoHobbsee: ok, you are not in Perth then .....06:49
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Hobbseenorsetto: indeed, i am not :)06:50
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seb128xtknight: I'll have a look but not now06:50
xtknightHobbsee,  ah ok, so we just have wait for a sync for debian?  this is what im asking, im just confused if it'll ever be fixed06:50
seb128xtknight: to be honest I don't like the fix but it has been commited to Debian now so we will probably sync it06:50
seb128it make the program use a deprecated API rather than fix the bug06:51
xtknightseb128, did you see the newer patch?06:51
seb128yes, but I've been too busy to review it06:51
seb128that's why I didn't reply on the bug06:51
xtknightah, ok, that is fine06:51
seb128yet06:51
xtknighti don't mean to rush anybody but i am also new to this so i dont know the process06:52
Hobbseextknight: seb128 bites.  be careful :P06:52
seb128xtknight: that's alright, just be patient, there is ten of thousand of bugs open and a small team looking at those06:53
xtknightgood deal06:53
seb128and that application is not priority06:54
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seb128it's on the review list and I'll look at it, after the GNOME 2.19.90 updates though06:54
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bddebianHobbsee: :-)06:56
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ccookeHmm07:12
ccooke132941 is closed (fix released) but the fix isn't working07:13
xtknightBug 13294107:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132941 in update-notifier "Package 0.59.2 broken" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294107:13
ccookeAny policy saying I shouldn't/can't re-open that bug?07:13
ubotuNew bug: #132988 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy]  rhythmbox doesn't show daap shared smart playlists" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13298807:15
bdmurrayccooke: If it really isn't fixed then it should be reopened07:15
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ccookeyeah, I just wanted to check before assuming it was okay07:16
ccookechange to 'In Progress', right?07:16
bdmurrayIn Progress means that someone is working on it.  I don't that is the case.07:17
ccookeOkay07:17
ubotuNew bug: #132990 in mecab (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync mecab (0.95-1.1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299007:20
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aaaantoinewhat are the sync requests?07:23
bddebianRequests for packages to be brought over straight from Debian07:23
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ubotuNew bug: #132991 in gnome-panel (main) "loss of the choice of desktop icons in lower right corner" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299107:25
ubotuNew bug: #132992 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy]  rhythmbox cannot load UPnP plugin, missing files." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299207:25
aaaantoine132991 probably isn't a bug per se, but a support request07:27
ccookeaaaantoine: on the other hand, it is a bug - it shouldn't be possible to remove basic interface features without a warning, at least07:27
aaaantoinehm, true07:27
ccookewhat would be nice is to link it to "lock to panel"07:28
ccookeanything locked displaying a confirmation screen when you try to remove it07:28
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aaaantoineccooke: still, he should be able to add it back in by right-clicking the panel...07:30
shirishccooke: did you try & install gmailfs?07:30
ubotuNew bug: #132994 in system-config-printer (main) "S-c-p should recommend hal-cups-utils" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299407:30
ccookeshirish: not had time. I'm at work, configuring a mysql ring07:30
xtknightshirish, gmailfs isnt working?07:31
ccookeaaaantoine: yes. The point is, new users won't know how to.07:31
shirishxtknight: dunno about that, but for me as a user can't get it working, I have posted a query about the same at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+question/11592 , if you know something please post about it.07:31
xtknighti'm going to give it a shot on my VM.  saw your email on ubuntu-devel aobut it07:32
shirishxtknight: thanx a billion07:32
shirishbtw can you guys look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33955/ and tell me what the issue is? Update-notifier, dpkg or what?07:33
xtknightprobably Bug 132941 just mentioned recently :p07:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 132941 in update-notifier "Package 0.59.2 broken" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13294107:33
xtknightfix is in progress07:34
aaaantoineccooke: want I should tell him how to get his workspaces back, and then suggest that a confirmation box be tied to locked panel items?07:34
shirishxtknight: thanx for pointer, subscribing to it.07:34
ccookeaaaantoine: sounds good to me07:34
shirishxtknight: it isn't fixed by even 0.59.307:35
aaaantoineah, Sebastien beat me to it07:35
ubotuNew bug: #132995 in gnome-panel (main) "nividia ?? ati ???" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299507:35
shirishxtknight: disregard that comment, I see somebody already made the point07:36
shirishxtknight: about gmailfs, it might be possible that it might work with root access, but using root all the time to use gmailfs is a security thing I feel, I would rather have a user, say 'shirish' being able to use it and haven't found a way to do it07:38
xtknightshirish, yea should be no need for root (ideally)07:38
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shirishxtknight: there is a package called gnome-mount which perhaps might be ideal for this sort of thing, but lack understanding about how gnome-mount works07:39
xtknightshirish,  i think if the pkg is not easy to setup, it is a bug07:39
seb128shirish: gnome-mount does mount volumes ;)07:40
shirishxtknight: its not at all easy to setup, it took me 12 hrs. & I'm still no closer to the problem, but then I'm not sophisticated like you guys07:40
shirishseb128: hey07:40
ubotuNew bug: #132996 in network-manager (main) "Notification popups are annoying and should be optional" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299607:42
shirishseb128: the issue is one hand the documentation says to use mount command & AFAIK that command is a prerogative of root.07:42
seb128no, it's not07:42
seb128depends if you have the partition listed in fstab for example07:42
shirishseb128: it isn't, then why does it tell me each time when I try the mount command it tells me only root can do that.07:43
xtknightyou can place "user" in fstab and not have to use root to mount07:43
seb128shirish: because you are probably trying to mount a partition and you are not authorized to do it07:44
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shirishxtknight: I tried both placing "user" and "uid=1000" and alternatively either but failed to have any proper response at all.07:44
xtknightshirish,  k i'll be taking a look at it in a sec.07:44
shirishxtknight: no rush, it would be good if we could put something simple no brain kinda thing so people can use it.07:45
ccookeshirish: one point of note - if a user mounts something, they usually need to have write permission to the mount point07:46
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shirishccooke: exactly, thats my point ;)07:47
shirishccooke: and unless I missed some option or something, I don't see a way in which the user get ownership right to that virtual partition.07:48
ccookeshirish: the mount point is the directory on your local filesystem which you mount onto07:49
xtknightsudo chown $USER:$USER /mnt/gmail07:49
xtknightsudo chmod u+x /mnt/gmail07:49
xtknightmount /mnt/gmail07:49
xtknighterr07:49
xtknightu+w  *07:49
ccookeum07:50
ccookeno.07:50
ccooke'sudo chmod u+w *' is a bad idea...07:50
xtknighti meant * as in correction.  sorry07:50
xtknightsudo chmod u+w /mnt/gmail07:50
ccooke... oh, yeah. Sorry, being an idios07:50
ccookeit's the end of a long day...07:50
shirishxtknight: so basically if I have the mount point /mnt/gmail then I should try the following things?07:51
xtknightshirish, yea07:51
ccookeshirish: modify the commands to whatever mountpoint you're using, yeah07:52
xtknightweird, "man gmailfs" doesnt work but "info gmailfs" does07:52
ccookextknight: ... sometimes, I really hate the FSF's prejudices.07:53
xtknightoh yet "info gmailfs" is unspecific07:53
xtknightwhere's the manual for this thing? :\07:53
shirishxtknight: at my end info gmailfs doesn't give anything, the only manual which I can get is "man mount.gmailfs"07:53
xtknightok07:53
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xtknightand there's no where it describes what the options are either.07:54
xtknightusername/pw etc?07:54
xtknightnever mind07:54
shirishxtknight: yup it gives all those options, but the mount stuff doesn't work as normal user07:55
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shirishxtknight: also my mount point is /home/shirish/gmailfs so shouldn't it be giving 'shirish' by default07:56
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xtknightshirish, ya this is pretty messed up08:00
ubotuNew bug: #132997 in monodevelop (universe) "Gutsy: monodevelop packade crashes on startup: Application not found: IDE" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299708:00
xtknightshirish, i can only access it with root08:00
shirishxtknight: I thought I was the only fool around & everybody else knew some magic way (dryly)08:00
xtknighti tried making the "user" own /dev/fuse too08:00
shirishxtknight: could you make a bug-report for it, I would subscribe to it, mine are usually lame08:02
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ubotuNew bug: #132998 in nut (universe) "bcmxcp_usb powerware 3105 can not connect to UPS." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299808:05
shirishbtw is this true that gutsy is going to be an LTS, IIRC isn't that supposed to be gutsy+1 or next yr. after that something like that.08:06
xtknightshirish, Bug 13300108:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133001 in Ubuntu "gmailfs does not mount as user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300108:07
xtknightgutsy+1 will probably be LTS but not Gutsy.08:07
shirishxtknight: thanx08:07
shirishxtknight: subscribing to it as we speak08:08
shirishxtknight: should I confirm it, or better yet wait for some people to take a look at it?08:09
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ubotuNew bug: #132999 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Gusty doesn't boot on an i968 board without 'irqpoll' kernel option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13299908:10
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xtknightshirish, let other people take a ook08:14
xtknightlook*08:14
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shirishxtknight: cool, although putting up my side of the story as well08:15
ubotuNew bug: #133000 in compiz (main) "Desktop Effects doesn't react to CompizConfig Settings Manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300008:15
ubotuNew bug: #133001 in Ubuntu "gmailfs does not mount as user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300108:15
shirishxtknight: put up my side of the story as well, btw somehow you had better mileage/success than I had, checkout what mount spews up at my end.08:18
xtknightshirish, ah yeah you need that "none" in front of /mnt/gmailfs08:19
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xtknightshirish, hold on i might have posted the wrong cmd08:19
xtknightshirish, ok my description is now accurate.  i updated the command08:20
ubotuNew bug: #133003 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  Hint for compiz-fusion default settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300308:21
shirishxtknight: at my end I get a big traceback with that (rolleyes)08:22
xtknightlol08:22
xtknightnot good08:22
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shirishxtknight: the first time around might be due to putting the fictious username & password but even that is not a good way to show to the user.08:25
shirishxtknight: why did you file the bug under ubuntu & not gmailfs?08:25
xtknightshirish, im not sure if it's a gmailfs or fuse problem to be honest08:26
ubotuNew bug: #133004 in ltsp (main) "LTSP Widescreen Client Screen Resolution " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300408:26
shirishxtknight: ok then disregard that change i just did, I reverted it back to ubuntu08:26
shirishxtknight: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+bug/133010 and lemme know what you think?08:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133010 in gmailfs "doesn't give helpful error messages" [Undecided,New] 08:30
ubotuNew bug: #133006 in gnuserv (universe) "Please sync gnuserv 3.12.7-5 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300608:31
ubotuNew bug: #133007 in sane-backends (main) "Missing rule  in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules (epson v100) [gutsy] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300708:31
xtknightshirish, weird.  probably because you had it mounted already08:36
ubotuNew bug: #133008 in Ubuntu "Need help installing Ubuntu" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13300808:36
shirishxtknight: thought so, the weirder thing is I can't access it through normal means, and can't get it permissions. Maybe have to log-out then re-try again at deleting it.08:38
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ubotuNew bug: #133010 in gmailfs (universe) "doesn't give helpful error messages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13301008:40
ubotuNew bug: #133012 in Ubuntu "There's no easy way to recover Grub from livecd." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13301208:40
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shirishxtknight: I give up, this gmailfs is beyond me08:42
shirishI try to remove it & I can't remove that folder08:43
xtknighthmm08:43
xtknightsudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs08:43
xtknightif that doesnt work08:43
xtknightgksu gedit /etc/mtab   take it out, save the file, then rm -rf again08:43
shirishxtknight: even after taking out the entry from /etc/mtab and doing the sudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs it doesn't go :(08:46
xtknightwhat does it say.. ?08:46
xtknightugh prolly shoulda "umounted" first08:46
xtknighthmm08:46
xtknight"sudo modprobe -r fuse" then sudo rm -rf?08:47
shirishsudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs08:47
shirishrm: cannot lstat `/mnt/gmailfs': Input/output error08:47
xtknighttry removing the fuse module08:47
pedro_have you guys tried the flickrfs?08:48
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shirishxtknight: I get the following output http://pastebin.ca/66002608:49
xtknightflickrfs eh?08:49
xtknightnope08:49
Pici you need to use the fuse specific umount command first before you delete the mountpoint08:49
xtknightdo gmailfs and flickrfs abide by the rules of gmail and flickr?08:49
PiciProbably not08:49
xtknightshirish, i dont know then.  i would just delete it in recovery mode08:50
xtknightwe could go in another hundred circles trying to fix it now or just remove it from elsewhere08:50
shirishxtknight: ok meaning, go into recovery mode, then sudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs there?08:50
xtknightshirish, yes08:51
shirishxtknight: ok cool, bbiaf08:51
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Picishirish: try fusermount -u /mnt/gmailfs first... nevermind08:51
xtknighthe already removed it from mtab though08:51
Picibleh08:51
xtknightprobably was a bad idea of mine but it usually fixes it for me08:51
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shirishxtknight: thanx for your help, maybe I need to also file a bug about not giving documentation about uninstalling/unmounting stuff in case if the user doesn't want it anymore on the system08:59
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xtknightshirish, i guess so09:06
xtknightgmailfs is fairly buggy imo so it only makes snse09:06
xtknightsense09:06
shirishxtknight: right, it is buggy, the guy at the site richard jones http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html says its his first attempt09:09
shirishxtknight: I have used this piece of software on windows & its pretty cool, here its pretty buggy but better.09:09
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shirishxtknight: have a look see if you  will at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+bug/13301909:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 133019 in gmailfs "documentation doesn't give uninstalling instructions" [Undecided,New] 09:12
shirishxtknight: if you think this is ok, then will file the same upstream i.e. debian as the guy who wrote the manual Sebastian Delafond is there as well as here. Most of the documentation about gmailfs is done by him.09:13
xtknightshirish, ok, well im not sure why you had so much trouble uninstalling09:14
shirishxtknight: bah, I didn't mean uninstalling gmailfs, I meant unmounting as we did just now09:15
shirishxtknight: there are no written instructions as for mount there were.09:16
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xtknightshirish, ahh09:18
xtknightshirish, if i'm being a little brief/terse right now it's because i'm tired ;)09:22
shirishxtknight: actually lots of this complications could be done away with if we get some kind of good GTK dialog boxes where quite a few things are assumed, for people who know about this stuff in an advanced way can always configure things for themselves, its for the average joe making it simple09:23
shirishxtknight: i have that effect on people, sorry09:23
xtknightshirish, let's see what responses we get on the three bugs we have filed before we file any more09:24
xtknightmaybe they will decide to sync some version in debian that's newer and apparently fixed all of them, or maybe there will be some miracle fix09:24
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ubotuNew bug: #133019 in gmailfs (universe) "documentation doesn't give unmounting instructions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13301909:25
shirishxtknight: good you are on positive frame on mind :)09:25
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