[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #132800 in apport (main) "Command line automatically included in bug report, violating user's privacy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132800
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132802 in impacket (universe) ""return" missing in ImpactPacket.TCPOptions.get_ts_echo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132802
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132804 in control-center (main) "Gnome forgets system beep settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132804
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #132805 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "Error writing to disc - There was an error writing to the disc:Unhandled error, aborting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132805
[12:41] <rbs-tito> Will someone in QA finish up bug 122208 please? I believe I have triaged it properly
[12:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122208 in gnome-control-center "Mouse sensitivity & acceleration settings reversed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122208
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #132807 in Ubuntu "cant change screen resolution." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132807
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #132808 in ubiquity (main) "the installer crashed, when I arrive to preparing disk space. when I choos manually (radio button) and next !!!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132808
[12:56] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: What do you mean by finish up?
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132812 in nautilus (main) "When moving, renaming, deleting files, their backup copies are not modified" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132812
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132813 in Ubuntu "ActiveSync has no FOSS counterpart." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132813
[01:02] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Mark the importance and the status
[01:04] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: Have you checked in Gutsy at all?  I just did and they don't seem reversed to me but I am not sure I know the difference between sensitivity and acceleration.
[01:04] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: I don't have access to Gutsy
[01:05] <rbs-tito> Acceleration is when it gets faster as you drag
[01:05] <rbs-tito> Sensitivity mean more mouse movement == more cursor movement
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #132638 in gdesklets "crash when opening gdesklets (dup-of: 121070)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132638
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #132817 in Ubuntu "microphone doesnt work at all" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132817
[01:19] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: okay, I think I understand and modified the bug
[01:21] <rbs-tito> cool
[01:21] <rbs-tito> Still no news upstream
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132822 in evolution-data-server (main) "Evolution crashes gnome-panel on loading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132822
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132824 in gnome-games (main) "gnome-games leaves .pyc files in site-packages when removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132824
[01:53] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: You know that resolution bug you just changed to "new" that was previously "Incomplete" ? Why shouldn't it be incomplete?
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132827 in openoffice.org (main) "package openoffice.org-reportdesigner 0.5.0+OOo2.3.0~src680m224-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132827
[01:59] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: hmm, which bug was that?
[02:00] <rbs-tito> bug 132807
[02:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132807 in xorg "cant change screen resolution." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132807
[02:02] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: it was a miss timing issue.  I was working off the mailing list setting the package to xorg at approximately the same time you were commenting on the bug.
[02:02] <rbs-tito> Ah right, incomplete is the same as the old "needs info" right?
[02:04] <bdmurray> Yes, it should be incomplete.  It just so happened that I was modifying the bug at the same time you were.
[02:04] <bdmurray> So I left the state at New and you set it to Incomplete
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #132828 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Caps Lock indication invalid when it is used to switch keyboard layouts" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132828
[02:14] <neofpo> hello there.
[02:15] <neofpo> I've just made a fix to mplyer / mencoder mp3 problem and posted it at launchpad at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mplayer/+bug/85751. Anyone packager more experienced than me willing to test it?
[02:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 85751 in mplayer "Distorted MP3 sound" [High,Confirmed] 
[02:19] <neofpo> *no dial tone*
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132830 in update-manager (main) "Unresolvable problem calculating upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132830
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132832 in debian-installer (main) "Configuring encrypted volumes in 7.04 debian-installer?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132832
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132833 in Ubuntu "login background color is hardcoded" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132833
[02:39] <rbraley> use case: Ryan has an ubuntu livecd and wants to install it for a friend who wants software raid and an easy graphical installer. He does not want to have to download an alternate cd and waste a disk.
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #132834 in drapes (universe) "drapes.exe crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132834
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #132835 in Ubuntu "Firefox uses a different user dictionary for spell checking than gedit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132835
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132839 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu (main) "missing string (OEM install)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132839
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #132840 in ubiquity (main) "/boot partition doesn't need to be formatted ( gutsy tribe 4 )" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132840
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #132836 in gedit (main) "Ubuntu Feisty persistenly opens "unsaved document" in Gedit on every login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132836
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #132637 in gtk+2.0 "gnome-system-log crashed with SIGSEGV in g_value_peek_pointer()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132637
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #132845 in libvncserver (main) "[gutsy]  bad code in rfb.h (libvncserver-dev)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132845
[04:13] <ScottK> rbraley: Then Ryan is out of luck.
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #132846 in xemacs21-packages (universe) "Please sync xemacs21-packages (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132846
[04:16] <rbraley> do you know if there is a reason the livecd doesn't have raid support?
[04:16] <ScottK> The live CD installer is a completely different program than the alternate.
[04:16] <ScottK> RAID has not been implemented for it.
[04:17] <ScottK> The Live CD installer is a relatively young program (the alternate uses debian-installer) and so it's not suprising it's missing features.
[04:17] <ScottK> I don't know if there's a plan for it or not.
[04:17] <ScottK> Personally, I've never had a lot of luck installing off the Live CD and tend to use the alternate.
[04:18] <rbraley> I've never had a lot of luck installing from the alternate
[04:18] <ScottK> Heh.
[04:18] <Flannel> rbraley: sounds like bad burns
[04:19] <rbraley> I have had over 20 hours of fighting with it while my friends lose faith in linux
[04:19] <xtknight> hm first time i booted the alternate is all made sense to me.  raid was largely self explanatory
[04:19] <xtknight> there needs to be a gui after all this time, though
[04:20] <ScottK> In many respects you're probably better off from a data reliabiliity perspective not using RAID and rsyncing data to the 2nd hard drive a regular intervals.
[04:20] <Flannel> xtknight: alternate does have a GUI
[04:20] <RAOF> xtknight: There is, it's just a curses gui :)
[04:20] <rbraley> but grub cannot boot from raid and that isn't explained anywhere in the installer
[04:20] <RAOF> Also, Like CD.
[04:20] <xtknight> well wish this attitude we will scare people away
[04:20] <xtknight> with*
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132847 in Ubuntu "downloaded updates, now X11 does not load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132847
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132848 in gnome-panel (main) "calendar is shown behind current focused window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132848
[04:20] <RAOF> s/like/live/
[04:20] <xtknight> <- -doesn't care about GUIs, others may
[04:21] <ScottK> Time spent writing code is better spent than just complaining.
[04:21] <rbraley> true
[04:22] <ScottK> I'm sure if someone wanted to write a patch to add RAID support for the Live CD installer, Ubuntu would take it.
[04:22] <rbraley> maybe I can steal some code from anaconda or somesuch and figure it out
[04:23] <ScottK> Of course I just realized, I've never actually installed Ubuntu the way most people think of it.
[04:24] <ScottK> I use Kubuntu on the desktop and I've installed Ubuntu-server many times, but never Gnome Ubuntu.
[04:24] <rbraley> I can code, but I don't think I can do it right if I am unable to install it correctly as is.
[04:24] <ScottK> What kind of hardware are you trying to install into?
[04:26] <xtknight> until then maybe there is some way we can use mdadm before ubiquity, and just put up a HOWTO on it.  make slight mods to ubiquity to support installation to /dev/md*, etc
[04:27] <rbraley> 2 SATA drives where the intel raid controller has turned off raid for the pair.
[04:27] <ScottK> Ah.
[04:28] <ScottK> Installing anything into a RAID controller can end up with complications.
[04:28] <ScottK> I've done it several times with no trouble, but only into regular controllers.
[04:29] <rbraley> there are 4 drives, a windows raid array through the intel controller, and the linux drives which we have disbanded in the raid bios
[04:29] <xtknight> you want SW raid or HW raid?
[04:29] <rbraley> sw
[04:29] <ScottK> Have you Googled for specific install issues with your controller?
[04:29] <xtknight> what problems did you encounter while using "alternate"?
[04:31] <rbraley> well periodically when I try to delete erroneous raid arrays md0-3 I get "cannot perform action, device is busy" with a red screen
[04:31] <rbraley> clearing the partition table seems to do nothing to fix this issue
[04:31] <xtknight> you're trying to install fresh and it's coming up with zombie arrays?
[04:31] <rbraley> I will need to boot a different cd to erase the hard drives
[04:32] <rbraley> yes
[04:32] <xtknight> do you care about any data on there?
[04:32] <xtknight> im not sure what you meant by clearing the partition table but you might wipe the mbr
[04:33] <rbraley> also when I thought I had done it right and the alternate installed seemingly correctly, I get no operating system
[04:34] <xtknight> hmm
[04:34] <xtknight> not sure how it details with /boot
[04:34] <xtknight> if grub doesnt support raid, i have no idea how my setup is working right now
[04:35] <ScottK> xtknight: You have a very small non-RAID /boot I'd imagine.  Let me look at one of mine.
[04:35] <xtknight> hmm
[04:35] <xtknight> yeah i do
[04:35] <xtknight> i must have anticipated it
[04:36] <xtknight> i  thought i remember the installer telling me i had to
[04:36] <xtknight> but i don't remember, to be honest
[04:37] <rbraley> oh god I am now told that grub was written to the windows raid mbr, ruining everything
[04:38] <xtknight> ugh
[04:38] <xtknight> i had that happen
[04:38] <rbraley> did you fix it?
[04:38] <xtknight> grub on ntfs boot sector = bad
[04:38] <xtknight> yea
[04:38] <xtknight> linux util "testdisk"
[04:38] <xtknight> recovered the partition, and its file table.  it was showing up as 10M FAT12 or something
[04:38] <xtknight> got it bad to ntfs, lost 10m of data at most
[04:38] <xtknight> back*
[04:39] <rbraley> huh
[04:39] <xtknight> but it wasn't raid.  i dont know how or if testdisk can handle that
[04:39] <rbraley> oh god
[04:39] <xtknight> mine was triggered by "fixboot"
[04:39] <xtknight> unless your windows raid was on (hd0) at all you wouldnt have a problem
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #132849 in libmtp (main) "[needs review]  libmtp 0.2.1 udev rules file fix [needs upload] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132849
[04:41] <rbraley> it was hd0
[04:42] <xtknight> are you sure you cant access the data?
[04:42] <rbraley> i don't know
[04:43] <ScottK> What version of Windows?
[04:43] <rbraley> xp
[04:44] <jjesse> are you having dual boot problems?
[04:44] <jjesse> sorry just joined
[04:44] <rbraley> yes
[04:44] <ScottK> IIRC WIndows repair/recovery or whatever they call it in XP (Win2K was the last Windows I've owned) can fix that.
[04:44] <ScottK> So at least you get back to no harm done.
[04:44] <xtknight> ah ya
[04:45] <xtknight> you can try fixmbr or fixboot at recovery console.  raid drivers have been laoded at that point
[04:45] <jjesse> if you do a repair, it will try and rebuild the mbr which will mess up ubuntu
[04:45] <xtknight> but fixboot on my grubbed NTFS partition caused my near data loss so id be careful.
[04:45] <ScottK> jjesse: He hasn't actually got an Ubuntu install yet.
[04:46] <xtknight> im not sure how you get to recovery console with a corrupted partition table though.  dont know if that is possible
[04:46] <rbraley> the install may have worked had grub been installed on the drive ubuntu was going on
[04:46] <jjesse> ScottK: oh
[04:47] <jjesse> rbraley: when you boot w/ the restore disk or xp disk you can repair your installation of windows
[04:47] <jjesse> and that should restore things so you can access xp again
[04:47] <rbraley> I did that once and it ruined everything
[04:47] <rbraley> fixmbr
[04:48] <rbraley> maybe if the mbr of only the first drive was written to I can copy over the mbr from the second
[04:50] <rbraley> oh wait it was raid0 crap
[04:53] <rbraley> ok I am going over to try and fix the problem, any last words?
[04:54] <ScottK> rbraley: Why RAID?
[04:54] <rbraley> he wanted the performance
[04:56] <ScottK> Is it enough difference to even notice?
[04:56] <rbraley> but now this is worse, to fix the mbr of the xp drives I can't see them from linux since it is intel fake raid
[04:56] <rbraley> yes
[04:56] <ScottK> I tend to look at reliability and availability and complexity is the enemy of both.
[04:57] <rbraley> not for fedora, suse, mandriva etc\
[04:58] <ScottK> Not for Ubuntu either generally (I've got a couple of boxen with RAID).
[04:58] <rbraley> raid works for them, now I have caused a great deal of harm by trusting the alt cd
[04:58] <ScottK> I've just decided to quit doing at.
[04:58] <ScottK> I'd suggest doing some googling on the exactly controller model you are dealing with.
[04:58] <rbraley> well I need to recover his data
[04:58] <ScottK> I suspect you'll find something.
[04:59] <ScottK> Sure, for the WIndows RAID, I agree.
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #132850 in tracker (main) "trackerd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132850
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132773 in totem (main) "totem-video-thumbnailer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_check()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132773
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132853 in libmtp (main) "[needs review]  libmtp 0.2.1 udev rules file fix [needs upload] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132853
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #132854 in libgig (universe) "Please sync libgig (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132854
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132855 in mt-daapd (universe) "Please sync mt-daapd (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132855
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132856 in passepartout (universe) "Build with GNOME support" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132856
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132857 in Ubuntu "webcam not detected in lsusb, strange dmesg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132857
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132858 in gem (universe) "Please sync gem (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132858
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132859 in gpar2 (universe) "gpar2 is not font-size independent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132859
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132861 in totem (main) "video read slower than audio with Divx avi" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132861
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #132862 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed when rendering an svg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132862
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132864 in Ubuntu "installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132864
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #132866 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "ACPI resume hangs on HP Compaq nc6220" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132866
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #132867 in hpijs (universe) "hpijs reports missing libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132867
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132868 in gnome-panel (main) "dpkg didn't complete Java-Installation cause of a .doc file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132868
[08:41] <TheMuso> c
[08:41] <TheMuso> uuuuuuggggggh
[08:41] <RAOF> :)
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132874 in gedit (main) "[gutsy]  gedit is totally unresponsive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132874
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132875 in irssi (main) "desktop icon appears and disappears" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132875
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #132876 in irssi (main) "window loses control after f11 restore in jiggle mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132876
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #132877 in Ubuntu "Gforce 8 series screen blanks "out of sync" during usplash boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132877
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132881 in cheese (universe) "[needs review]  Cheese 0.2.0 [needs upload] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132881
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #132882 in bcm43xx-fwcutter (universe) "please sync bcm43xx-fwcutter 1:006-3 from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132882
[10:47] <ubotu> New bug: #132883 in hylafax (universe) "please sync hylafax 2:4.4.0-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132883
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132884 in p7zip (universe) "Can't compress to .7z with a space in there name" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132884
[11:02] <erika14212> these third party install methogs reallu hurt ubuntu
[11:02] <erika14212> idiots creat them
[11:10] <Hobbsee> erika14212: ?
[11:10] <erika14212> hi
[11:11] <erika14212> no i was referring
[11:11] <erika14212> to those who created windows installer for ubuntu
[11:11] <erika14212> they really hurt linux
[11:12] <erika14212> since the babage prpgram dont worl
[11:12] <Hobbsee> i believe it's a work in progress
[11:12] <Hobbsee> besides, it's not like we can really stop them
[11:13] <erika14212> they are idiots
[11:13] <erika14212> ihave lready ruined one hard drive
[11:14] <erika14212> one launches a network work in stall
[11:14] <erika14212> i cn login
[11:14] <erika14212> then cant get no further
[11:15] <erika14212> i have grub installed
[11:15] <norsetto> erika14212: are you talking about wubi?
[11:15] <erika14212> lubi
[11:15] <Hobbsee> erika14212: this isnt a support channel, btw
[11:15] <erika14212> ok
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #132886 in popularity-contest (main) "popularity-contest cron job fails with permission denied " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132886
[11:15] <erika14212> its ok
[11:15] <norsetto> erika14212: I think it would help a lot if you can file a nug, so that these issue can be worked out
[11:16] <Hobbsee> erika14212: gutsy is a development release, it's nto all supposed to work.
[11:16] <erika14212> i have already said my peace
[11:16] <norsetto> erika14212: a bug (I'm in my typing mood again)
[11:16] <erika14212> it was not very nice
[11:16] <erika14212> to them
[11:17] <erika14212> i can atleast warn others
[11:17] <Hobbsee> erika14212: still, whining about bugs in here does nto help.  file a bug report.
[11:17] <Hobbsee> a decent one
[11:17] <erika14212> of the crap software
[11:17] <Hobbsee> erika14212: your warning others here wont help
[11:17] <norsetto> erika14212: here: https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug
[11:18] <erika14212> it is list on the forums
[11:18] <Hobbsee> erika14212: in which case you should whine there, not here, as we dont touch it.
[11:18] <norsetto> it isn't, but they use launchpad and they are quite helpful ( I dealt with them in the past)
[11:19] <norsetto> erika14212: follow that link and post your bug, please make sure you give all the necessary information so that they can fix it
[11:19] <Hobbsee> erika14212: also, your conduct in #ubuntu is unacceptable.
[11:20] <Hobbsee> erika14212: it's a support channel.  it's busy enough without you whining about how the windows installer (which no on there touches anyway) breaks things.
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132885 in feisty-backports "Please backport Pulseaudio (dup-of: 107207)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132885
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132887 in hal-info (main) "T60p display brightness should be handled in hardware." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132887
[11:21] <erika14212> ok
[11:21] <erika14212> sorry
[11:22] <Hobbsee> erika14212: it'd be more productive if you also went and improved the installer, rather than talking about how bad it is
[11:22] <erika14212> im not programer
[11:23] <erika14212> but i will use bug report
[11:23] <erika14212> thing
[11:24] <_dummy> I'm currently doing some tests on Tribe4 (server-i386), anyone who have done some tribetesting here?
[11:26] <_dummy> or maybe someone can point me where/how to file bugs found in Tribe4? :)
[11:26] <Hobbsee> !bugs
[11:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:27] <Hobbsee> _dummy: if you can add [tribe 4]  into the summary, then that is helpful
[11:27] <_dummy> ok, so I shouldn't use the ISOtesting site for those bugs? (sorry, but I'm a bit confused here :P)
[11:29] <Hobbsee> _dummy: it's useful if you can add them on there.  it actually has bug # fields there, for launchpad bugs.
[11:29] <Hobbsee> as in, file the bug in launchpad, on the link above, and then add the numbers to the ISO testing tracker
[11:30] <_dummy> Hobbsee: ahh, thank you - that was helpful :-)
[11:30] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:30] <Hobbsee> no problem
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132888 in firefox (main) "[gutsy]  firefox randomly hangs when opening new windows / popups" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132888
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132891 in alacarte (main) "Alacarte crashes with UnicodeDecodeError" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132891
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132892 in ctypes (universe) "Please sync ctypes (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132892
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132894 in Ubuntu "No color printing on Epson Aculaser C1900" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132894
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132896 in nautilus (main) "Right click -> open With ... doesn't work in gutsy (after upgrading feisty to gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132896
[12:37] <TheMuso> c/
[12:37] <TheMuso> ugh
[12:37] <TheMuso> Old workflow must die soon.
[12:38] <RAOF> Apropos of?
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132900 in cupsys (main) "Gutsy: Printing not working with HP 1320n (after upgrade the 16/8)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132900
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132901 in file-roller (main) "[gutsy]  Cannot set / remeber from Nautilus the default application with which to open archived files in file-roller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132901
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132902 in adept (main) "gutsy has broken dependency in adept-notifier" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132902
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132904 in apport (main) "Ignore crashes for software which changed before reporting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132904
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #132905 in base-installer (main) "Kubuntu install partitioning tool problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132905
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #132906 in gparted (main) "New mounted fat32 partition is not writeable for non-root users" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132906
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132907 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "package compiz-fusion-plugins-main 0.0.1 git20070730~3v1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/compiz/colorfilter.xml , which is also in package compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132907
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132908 in nautilus (main) "Ubuntu desktop doesn't know what to do with already mounted Audio Disc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132908
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #132909 in Ubuntu "frozen mouse pointer at login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132909
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #132911 in farsight (universe) "Please sync farsight (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132911
[02:11] <ubotu> New bug: #132912 in telepathy-stream-engine (universe) "Please sync telepathy-stream-engine (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132912
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #132910 in gnunet (universe) "Please sync gnunet (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132910
[02:28] <xxxxx1> mornin'
[02:41] <ionstorm> remote root exploit for wireshark prior to 0.9.9.6 in the wild http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3198806#post3198806
[02:43] <Hobbsee> ionstorm: please file a bug, and mark it as a security bug.
[02:43] <ionstorm> ok
[02:43] <ScottK> It's in Universe so there's no security support except for what the community provides.  Patches accepted.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> ScottK: you could backport the latest version to the other arches, as a start, though
[02:45] <ScottK> Hobbsee: That would be wrong.
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #132914 in rhythmbox (main) "ipod: lyric not copied" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132914
[02:45] <Hobbsee> ScottK: well......yeah.
[02:45] <ScottK> Backports is not for fixing serious/security bugs.
[02:46] <Hobbsee> ScottK: but are you thinking that anyone will cherrypick a patch?
[02:46] <ScottK> So far when I've said "Backport request is Won't Fixed until someone does the SRU", it's worked.
[02:47] <Hobbsee> heh :)
[02:47] <ScottK> Besides, Ethereal/Wireshark have a stunningly long and painful history of major security issues.  Anyone who runs it in a hostile environment doesn't know what they are doing.
[02:48] <ScottK> I just use it on my side of my NAT router.
[02:48] <ScottK> I use tcpdump on the dangerous side.
[02:49] <ScottK> ionstorm: I wasn't kidding about patches.
[02:49] <ScottK> If someone can find the relevant changes out of 0.9.9.6 for the earlier versions, I will help get them packaged and released.
[02:50] <ionstorm> ScottK, new protocol support and whatnot http://www.wireshark.org/docs/relnotes/wireshark-0.99.6.html
[02:51] <ionstorm> a few new features
[02:51] <ScottK> Right, what I'm interested is the bits out of there that fix the vulnerability.
[02:51] <ionstorm> ah ic, i dont know much about code
[02:51] <ionstorm> it says it is patched on there website
[02:52] <ionstorm> at that url, gives more info on what was patched and how
[02:52] <ScottK> Right and I'll help someone who's motivated to figure it out, but I'm not doing the whole thing.
[02:53] <ionstorm> ok
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #132916 in openoffice.org (main) "Writer: Merging cells in a table in trouble when saved in RTF,or DOC format" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132916
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132102 in gedit "gedit crashed with signal 5 in shortcuts_drag_data_received_cb()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132102
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132917 in conduit (universe) "use epiphany's feed-presence icon for RSS feeds" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132917
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132919 in xen-common (universe) "package xen-utils-common None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xen-utils-common.list]  failed to install/upgrade: tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/share/man/man5/xmdomain.cfg.5.gz', che si trova anche nel pacchetto xen-utils-3.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132919
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132921 in tracker (main) "libdeskbar-tracker is broken in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132921
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132923 in pdftk (universe) "pdftk aborts on start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132923
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132924 in Ubuntu "German umlauts not displayed correctly in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132924
[03:35] <TheMuso> c
[03:35] <TheMuso> ugh
[03:48] <ubotu> New bug: #132928 in devscripts (main) "debcommit: add options to specify changelog path" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132928
[03:48] <ubotu> New bug: #132929 in glchess (universe) "glchess crashes on startup in gutsy (dup-of: 130275)" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132929
[03:48] <ubotu> New bug: #132930 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (main) "nv driver misdetects panel size of dell 2007fp monitor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132930
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132935 in xine-lib (main) "Xv Supports YV12; X Server Does Not" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132935
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #132932 in gnumeric (main) "cannot set page setup margins properly in mm, cm and in" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132932
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #132934 in ubiquity (main) "crashed in live CD Kubuntu 64 install manual layout" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132934
[03:58] <ScottK> beep
[03:58] <bddebian> Boo
[03:58] <bddebian> :-)
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #132936 in sshfs-fuse (universe) "Problem when mounting a remote directory under /media" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132936
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #132933 in tracker (main) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132933
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132937 in ruby-gnome2 (universe) "gtk2 is broken with ruby" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132937
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132938 in firefox (main) "tooltips dont work in sidebar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132938
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132939 in gdm (main) "[gutsy]  Suspend does not work from GDM login screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132939
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132940 in libvncserver (main) "x11vnc has no -ssl option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132940
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132941 in update-notifier (main) "Package 0.59.2 broken" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132941
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #132942 in update-notifier (main) "update-notifier upgrade failed " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132942
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132823 in gimmie (universe) "gimmie_applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132823
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132943 in sabayon (main) "sabayon does not save upon "save"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132943
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132944 in Ubuntu "Xubuntu forces shutdown, no waiting for saving document in OpenOffice" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132944
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132945 in sabayon (main) "sabayon does not detect certain file changes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132945
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132946 in sabayon (main) "sabayon gconf restrictions are unmaintenable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132946
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #132947 in mail-notification (universe) "mail-notification lost its ssl/tls ability" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132947
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #132948 in icecc (universe) "icecc misses dependency on g++" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132948
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #132951 in update-notifier (main) "Update-notifier{,-common} packages dependency problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132951
[05:03] <erika14212> mornin all
[05:03] <erika14212> i wanted to say i did report the bug
[05:03] <Hobbsee> yay~
[05:03] <erika14212> ill report today
[05:03] <erika14212> an tommorrow
[05:03] <erika14212> till i get i get on response on that site
[05:05] <Hobbsee> oh no you wont...
[05:05] <seb128> ?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> erika wont keep whinging over 3 channels about a pet bug.
[05:06] <seb128> ah, k
[05:07] <bddebian> hrm
[05:08] <Hobbsee> mvo: seb128, meet Some_Person
[05:08] <Hobbsee> (from -devel)
[05:08] <seb128> libcompizconfig0 installed version?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> Some_Person: ^
[05:11] <mvo> hello Some_Person
[05:11] <Some_Person> hello
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132920 in evolution (main) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in giop_recv_buffer_get()" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132920
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132954 in gnome-panel (main) "after any install got error masg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132954
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132955 in vym (universe) "Request VYM package upgrade to version 1.9.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132955
[05:29] <norsetto> Hello, my name is erika and I have a problem with my microwave oven
[05:30] <norsetto> you guys should really fix it you know
[05:30] <Hobbsee> norsetto: tough :P
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #132958 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon T.4 gives me 3 segfaults, then boots" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132958
[05:31] <norsetto> how did you guess it was me!?
[05:34] <Pici> she is smrt
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132922 in Ubuntu "Gestor de Paquetes Synaptic con error." [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132922
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132960 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  lockup computer when connect to wireless network with ralink card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132960
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132915 in Ubuntu "WireShark versions prior to 0.99.6 vulnerability" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132915
[05:41] <ubotu> New bug: #132962 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "infinite loop on quit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132962
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #132964 in Ubuntu "Please sync ttf-inconsolata (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132964
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132965 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Thunderbird message filter only reads first line of message header value" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132965
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132966 in Ubuntu "Keyboard stops working after any wireless device is removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132966
[06:08] <bdmurray> microwave?  what did I miss?
[06:12] <norsetto> bdmurray: look around 09:00 gmt
[06:14] <bdmurray> Hrm, I'd like to see that bug report. :)
[06:15] <norsetto> bdmurray: and then around 15:00 gmt ....
[06:16] <norsetto> bdmurray: and if you have the guts check out #ubuntu and #ubuntu-us too :-)
[06:17] <bdmurray> I'm not sure I am gutsy enough
[06:19] <norsetto> hehe
[06:20] <norsetto> but the bug report is a masterpiece: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/132889
[06:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132889 in wubi "wubi iso file missing" [Undecided,New] 
[06:20] <ScottK> Fortunately it's not an Ubuntu bug, so we can ignore it.
[06:20] <norsetto> and a little follow-up, you know, to speed up things a bit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/132950
[06:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132950 in wubi "wubi still not working correct" [Undecided,New] 
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132968 in mysql-query-browser (universe) "mysql-query-browser ubuntu 6.10 ppc crash on close" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132968
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132969 in cupsys (main) "AppAmor rules for CUPS seems to be to restrictive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132969
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #132972 in firefox (main) "/tmp/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.V3gxzl.crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132972
[06:23] <Hobbsee> norsetto: ouch
[06:24] <norsetto> Hobbsee: I stamped on your feet?
[06:24] <Hobbsee> norsetto: no, those bugs
[06:25] <aaaantoine> 132950: duplicate of 132889.  132889: "how about some more information there?" :P
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132974 in Ubuntu "Verbose Mode On Boot When Set To Quiet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132974
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132976 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "Flash applet can not access webcam" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132976
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132979 in ubuntu-meta (main) "Please consider making ubuntu-desktop recommend canoe" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132979
[06:31] <shirish> seb128: are you up buddy?
[06:33] <shirish> anybody wanting to work on this sabayon bug bug/129421
[06:33] <seb128> shirish: hi
[06:33] <shirish> hi seb128
[06:33] <seb128> bug #129421
[06:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 129421 in sabayon "sabayon is not purged correctly when uninstalling" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/129421
[06:33] <Hobbsee> shirish: feature freeze is later today.  probably not
[06:34] <shirish> Hobbsee: cool
[06:34] <seb128> Hobbsee: everybody is not working on new features ;)
[06:34] <Hobbsee> seb128: and new upstream versions
[06:34] <Hobbsee> seb128: you can do sponsorships, then :P
[06:34] <shirish> seb128: I just replied to what you asked, please lemme know if you need some more info.
[06:35] <shirish> seb128: or you need me to perform some stuff so it would give you some more info. about that bug
[06:35] <seb128> shirish: you reply is not clear, the directory is empty and it refuses to remove it?
[06:35] <seb128> Hobbsee: I could ;)
[06:35] <shirish> seb128: exactly
[06:35] <seb128> shirish: that makes no sense
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132981 in Ubuntu "Sound stops playing on minimal system load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132981
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132982 in upstreamdev (universe) "New upstream release: 0.2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132982
[06:35] <shirish> seb128: I know ;)
[06:36] <seb128> shirish: I've no idea about what to ask and no real interest in the bug, feel free to reopen if you figure what is wrong though
[06:36] <shirish> seb128: I could manually delete it if needed, sudo rm /var/run/sabayon-admin
[06:36] <seb128> the postrm uses "userdel -r sabayon-admin || true"
[06:36] <seb128> so it should break in no case
[06:37] <seb128> shirish: does calling "userdel -r sabayon-admin" work correctly?
[06:37] <shirish> seb128: lemme check
[06:38] <shirish> seb128: it gives me this
[06:38] <shirish> userdel -r sabayon-admin
[06:38] <shirish> userdel: unable to lock password file
[06:38] <seb128> sudo
[06:38] <shirish> oops, that did the trick
[06:39] <seb128> that's what the script does ...
[06:39] <Hobbsee> norsetto: then again, we could always use the "your bug did not have enough info" preresponse
[06:39] <ccooke> shirish: Sorry I missed you yesterday - you caught me just after I left work
[06:39] <shirish> ccooke: thats ok, I marked that bug invalid as I guess its really a support thing.
[06:40] <ccooke> shirish: I noticed there was some help in the README included in the package - did you look there?
[06:40] <shirish> ccooke: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+question/11592
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #132983 in Ubuntu "video playback is not fluent" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132983
[06:41] <shirish> ccooke: yup, read that, read the changelog, read the mount.gmailfs manpage, read richard's stuff on his web-site but became no wiser.
[06:43] <shirish> seb128: lemme get the first update-notifier stuff done (would probably take an hr. to hit my country's mirror) and then try again, for atleast with aptitude it doesn't remove sabayon & doesn't give any error messages
[06:43] <norsetto> Hobbsee: I would just leave it to Agostino.
[06:44] <Hobbsee> norsetto: will he do the blasting, then?
[06:44] <seb128> shirish: could you try using apt-get rather than aptitude? in case that make a difference
[06:44] <norsetto> Hobbsee: don't think so, I've dealt with him in the past and he was quite helpful
[06:44] <Hobbsee> awww
[06:45] <Hobbsee> no fun
[06:45] <Hobbsee> is there anything i should upload, before goign to bed?
[06:45] <shirish> seb128: I did try sudo apt-get remove sabayon also
[06:45] <shirish> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33949/
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #132984 in ltsp (main) "[Feature Request]  Need some kind of server chooser / failover system in ldm login." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132984
[06:46] <norsetto> Hobbsee: bug 70367 ?
[06:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 70367 in imlib "imlib1 does not correctly handle 32-bit visuals" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70367
[06:46] <norsetto> Hobbsee: or leave it to ScottK, he may want to give it a look
[06:47] <Hobbsee> norsetto: meh.  that doesnt hit the "no new versions" freeze
[06:47] <xtknight> what's the status of Bug 60258 and what status should it be, at this point?
[06:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 60258 in gnome-art "Ruby crashes while using gnome-art-manager" [Unknown,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/60258
[06:47] <shirish> seb128: if you are going to be around for a while, maybe I'll check back in a hr. & give a status update after update-notifier dependancy issue is resolved with the newer one.
[06:48] <norsetto> Hobbssee: sorry, I thought you meant in general
[06:48] <seb128> shirish: k, even if I'm not around you can comment on the bug
[06:48] <Hobbsee> norsetto: i probably did :)
[06:48] <Hobbsee> norsetto: this says i should probably go to bed :)
[06:48] <shirish> seb128: will do, thanx for your time :)
[06:48] <seb128> xtknight: too much to do, not used by many people and I don't know ruby
[06:48] <seb128> shirish: you're welcome
[06:48] <norsetto> Hobbsee: so early!? Its not even 2am down there in oz!?
[06:49] <Hobbsee> norsetto: hehe.  it's 2.49am
[06:49] <xtknight> why wasn't it just closed?  confused
[06:49] <Hobbsee> xtknight: the fix released part is in debian
[06:49] <Hobbsee> xtknight: the ubuntu part shows as new
[06:49] <seb128> xtknight: because it's not fixed?
[06:49] <norsetto> Hobbsee: ok, you are not in Perth then .....
[06:50] <Hobbsee> norsetto: indeed, i am not :)
[06:50] <seb128> xtknight: I'll have a look but not now
[06:50] <xtknight> Hobbsee,  ah ok, so we just have wait for a sync for debian?  this is what im asking, im just confused if it'll ever be fixed
[06:50] <seb128> xtknight: to be honest I don't like the fix but it has been commited to Debian now so we will probably sync it
[06:51] <seb128> it make the program use a deprecated API rather than fix the bug
[06:51] <xtknight> seb128, did you see the newer patch?
[06:51] <seb128> yes, but I've been too busy to review it
[06:51] <seb128> that's why I didn't reply on the bug
[06:51] <xtknight> ah, ok, that is fine
[06:51] <seb128> yet
[06:52] <xtknight> i don't mean to rush anybody but i am also new to this so i dont know the process
[06:52] <Hobbsee> xtknight: seb128 bites.  be careful :P
[06:53] <seb128> xtknight: that's alright, just be patient, there is ten of thousand of bugs open and a small team looking at those
[06:53] <xtknight> good deal
[06:54] <seb128> and that application is not priority
[06:54] <seb128> it's on the review list and I'll look at it, after the GNOME 2.19.90 updates though
[06:56] <bddebian> Hobbsee: :-)
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #132796 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashed with TypeError in clear_all() on close" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132796
[07:12] <ccooke> Hmm
[07:13] <ccooke> 132941 is closed (fix released) but the fix isn't working
[07:13] <xtknight> Bug 132941
[07:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132941 in update-notifier "Package 0.59.2 broken" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132941
[07:13] <ccooke> Any policy saying I shouldn't/can't re-open that bug?
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #132988 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy]  rhythmbox doesn't show daap shared smart playlists" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132988
[07:15] <bdmurray> ccooke: If it really isn't fixed then it should be reopened
[07:16] <ccooke> yeah, I just wanted to check before assuming it was okay
[07:16] <ccooke> change to 'In Progress', right?
[07:17] <bdmurray> In Progress means that someone is working on it.  I don't that is the case.
[07:17] <ccooke> Okay
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #132990 in mecab (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync mecab (0.95-1.1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132990
[07:23] <aaaantoine> what are the sync requests?
[07:23] <bddebian> Requests for packages to be brought over straight from Debian
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132991 in gnome-panel (main) "loss of the choice of desktop icons in lower right corner" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132991
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #132992 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy]  rhythmbox cannot load UPnP plugin, missing files." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132992
[07:27] <aaaantoine> 132991 probably isn't a bug per se, but a support request
[07:27] <ccooke> aaaantoine: on the other hand, it is a bug - it shouldn't be possible to remove basic interface features without a warning, at least
[07:27] <aaaantoine> hm, true
[07:28] <ccooke> what would be nice is to link it to "lock to panel"
[07:28] <ccooke> anything locked displaying a confirmation screen when you try to remove it
[07:30] <aaaantoine> ccooke: still, he should be able to add it back in by right-clicking the panel...
[07:30] <shirish> ccooke: did you try & install gmailfs?
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #132994 in system-config-printer (main) "S-c-p should recommend hal-cups-utils" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132994
[07:30] <ccooke> shirish: not had time. I'm at work, configuring a mysql ring
[07:31] <xtknight> shirish, gmailfs isnt working?
[07:31] <ccooke> aaaantoine: yes. The point is, new users won't know how to.
[07:31] <shirish> xtknight: dunno about that, but for me as a user can't get it working, I have posted a query about the same at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+question/11592 , if you know something please post about it.
[07:32] <xtknight> i'm going to give it a shot on my VM.  saw your email on ubuntu-devel aobut it
[07:32] <shirish> xtknight: thanx a billion
[07:33] <shirish> btw can you guys look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33955/ and tell me what the issue is? Update-notifier, dpkg or what?
[07:33] <xtknight> probably Bug 132941 just mentioned recently :p
[07:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 132941 in update-notifier "Package 0.59.2 broken" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132941
[07:34] <xtknight> fix is in progress
[07:34] <aaaantoine> ccooke: want I should tell him how to get his workspaces back, and then suggest that a confirmation box be tied to locked panel items?
[07:34] <shirish> xtknight: thanx for pointer, subscribing to it.
[07:34] <ccooke> aaaantoine: sounds good to me
[07:35] <shirish> xtknight: it isn't fixed by even 0.59.3
[07:35] <aaaantoine> ah, Sebastien beat me to it
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #132995 in gnome-panel (main) "nividia ?? ati ???" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132995
[07:36] <shirish> xtknight: disregard that comment, I see somebody already made the point
[07:38] <shirish> xtknight: about gmailfs, it might be possible that it might work with root access, but using root all the time to use gmailfs is a security thing I feel, I would rather have a user, say 'shirish' being able to use it and haven't found a way to do it
[07:38] <xtknight> shirish, yea should be no need for root (ideally)
[07:39] <shirish> xtknight: there is a package called gnome-mount which perhaps might be ideal for this sort of thing, but lack understanding about how gnome-mount works
[07:39] <xtknight> shirish,  i think if the pkg is not easy to setup, it is a bug
[07:40] <seb128> shirish: gnome-mount does mount volumes ;)
[07:40] <shirish> xtknight: its not at all easy to setup, it took me 12 hrs. & I'm still no closer to the problem, but then I'm not sophisticated like you guys
[07:40] <shirish> seb128: hey
[07:42] <ubotu> New bug: #132996 in network-manager (main) "Notification popups are annoying and should be optional" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132996
[07:42] <shirish> seb128: the issue is one hand the documentation says to use mount command & AFAIK that command is a prerogative of root.
[07:42] <seb128> no, it's not
[07:42] <seb128> depends if you have the partition listed in fstab for example
[07:43] <shirish> seb128: it isn't, then why does it tell me each time when I try the mount command it tells me only root can do that.
[07:43] <xtknight> you can place "user" in fstab and not have to use root to mount
[07:44] <seb128> shirish: because you are probably trying to mount a partition and you are not authorized to do it
[07:44] <shirish> xtknight: I tried both placing "user" and "uid=1000" and alternatively either but failed to have any proper response at all.
[07:44] <xtknight> shirish,  k i'll be taking a look at it in a sec.
[07:45] <shirish> xtknight: no rush, it would be good if we could put something simple no brain kinda thing so people can use it.
[07:46] <ccooke> shirish: one point of note - if a user mounts something, they usually need to have write permission to the mount point
[07:47] <shirish> ccooke: exactly, thats my point ;)
[07:48] <shirish> ccooke: and unless I missed some option or something, I don't see a way in which the user get ownership right to that virtual partition.
[07:49] <ccooke> shirish: the mount point is the directory on your local filesystem which you mount onto
[07:49] <xtknight> sudo chown $USER:$USER /mnt/gmail
[07:49] <xtknight> sudo chmod u+x /mnt/gmail
[07:49] <xtknight> mount /mnt/gmail
[07:49] <xtknight> err
[07:49] <xtknight> u+w  *
[07:50] <ccooke> um
[07:50] <ccooke> no.
[07:50] <ccooke> 'sudo chmod u+w *' is a bad idea...
[07:50] <xtknight> i meant * as in correction.  sorry
[07:50] <xtknight> sudo chmod u+w /mnt/gmail
[07:50] <ccooke> ... oh, yeah. Sorry, being an idios
[07:50] <ccooke> it's the end of a long day...
[07:51] <shirish> xtknight: so basically if I have the mount point /mnt/gmail then I should try the following things?
[07:51] <xtknight> shirish, yea
[07:52] <ccooke> shirish: modify the commands to whatever mountpoint you're using, yeah
[07:52] <xtknight> weird, "man gmailfs" doesnt work but "info gmailfs" does
[07:53] <ccooke> xtknight: ... sometimes, I really hate the FSF's prejudices.
[07:53] <xtknight> oh yet "info gmailfs" is unspecific
[07:53] <xtknight> where's the manual for this thing? :\
[07:53] <shirish> xtknight: at my end info gmailfs doesn't give anything, the only manual which I can get is "man mount.gmailfs"
[07:53] <xtknight> ok
[07:54] <xtknight> and there's no where it describes what the options are either.
[07:54] <xtknight> username/pw etc?
[07:54] <xtknight> never mind
[07:55] <shirish> xtknight: yup it gives all those options, but the mount stuff doesn't work as normal user
[07:56] <shirish> xtknight: also my mount point is /home/shirish/gmailfs so shouldn't it be giving 'shirish' by default
[08:00] <xtknight> shirish, ya this is pretty messed up
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #132997 in monodevelop (universe) "Gutsy: monodevelop packade crashes on startup: Application not found: IDE" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132997
[08:00] <xtknight> shirish, i can only access it with root
[08:00] <shirish> xtknight: I thought I was the only fool around & everybody else knew some magic way (dryly)
[08:00] <xtknight> i tried making the "user" own /dev/fuse too
[08:02] <shirish> xtknight: could you make a bug-report for it, I would subscribe to it, mine are usually lame
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #132998 in nut (universe) "bcmxcp_usb powerware 3105 can not connect to UPS." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132998
[08:06] <shirish> btw is this true that gutsy is going to be an LTS, IIRC isn't that supposed to be gutsy+1 or next yr. after that something like that.
[08:07] <xtknight> shirish, Bug 133001
[08:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133001 in Ubuntu "gmailfs does not mount as user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133001
[08:07] <xtknight> gutsy+1 will probably be LTS but not Gutsy.
[08:07] <shirish> xtknight: thanx
[08:08] <shirish> xtknight: subscribing to it as we speak
[08:09] <shirish> xtknight: should I confirm it, or better yet wait for some people to take a look at it?
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #132999 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Gusty doesn't boot on an i968 board without 'irqpoll' kernel option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132999
[08:14] <xtknight> shirish, let other people take a ook
[08:14] <xtknight> look*
[08:15] <shirish> xtknight: cool, although putting up my side of the story as well
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133000 in compiz (main) "Desktop Effects doesn't react to CompizConfig Settings Manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133000
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133001 in Ubuntu "gmailfs does not mount as user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133001
[08:18] <shirish> xtknight: put up my side of the story as well, btw somehow you had better mileage/success than I had, checkout what mount spews up at my end.
[08:19] <xtknight> shirish, ah yeah you need that "none" in front of /mnt/gmailfs
[08:19] <xtknight> shirish, hold on i might have posted the wrong cmd
[08:20] <xtknight> shirish, ok my description is now accurate.  i updated the command
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #133003 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  Hint for compiz-fusion default settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133003
[08:22] <shirish> xtknight: at my end I get a big traceback with that (rolleyes)
[08:22] <xtknight> lol
[08:22] <xtknight> not good
[08:25] <shirish> xtknight: the first time around might be due to putting the fictious username & password but even that is not a good way to show to the user.
[08:25] <shirish> xtknight: why did you file the bug under ubuntu & not gmailfs?
[08:26] <xtknight> shirish, im not sure if it's a gmailfs or fuse problem to be honest
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #133004 in ltsp (main) "LTSP Widescreen Client Screen Resolution " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133004
[08:26] <shirish> xtknight: ok then disregard that change i just did, I reverted it back to ubuntu
[08:30] <shirish> xtknight: take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+bug/133010 and lemme know what you think?
[08:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133010 in gmailfs "doesn't give helpful error messages" [Undecided,New] 
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #133006 in gnuserv (universe) "Please sync gnuserv 3.12.7-5 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133006
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #133007 in sane-backends (main) "Missing rule  in /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules (epson v100) [gutsy] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133007
[08:36] <xtknight> shirish, weird.  probably because you had it mounted already
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #133008 in Ubuntu "Need help installing Ubuntu" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133008
[08:38] <shirish> xtknight: thought so, the weirder thing is I can't access it through normal means, and can't get it permissions. Maybe have to log-out then re-try again at deleting it.
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133010 in gmailfs (universe) "doesn't give helpful error messages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133010
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133012 in Ubuntu "There's no easy way to recover Grub from livecd." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133012
[08:42] <shirish> xtknight: I give up, this gmailfs is beyond me
[08:43] <shirish> I try to remove it & I can't remove that folder
[08:43] <xtknight> hmm
[08:43] <xtknight> sudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs
[08:43] <xtknight> if that doesnt work
[08:43] <xtknight> gksu gedit /etc/mtab   take it out, save the file, then rm -rf again
[08:46] <shirish> xtknight: even after taking out the entry from /etc/mtab and doing the sudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs it doesn't go :(
[08:46] <xtknight> what does it say.. ?
[08:46] <xtknight> ugh prolly shoulda "umounted" first
[08:46] <xtknight> hmm
[08:47] <xtknight> "sudo modprobe -r fuse" then sudo rm -rf?
[08:47] <shirish> sudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs
[08:47] <shirish> rm: cannot lstat `/mnt/gmailfs': Input/output error
[08:47] <xtknight> try removing the fuse module
[08:48] <pedro_> have you guys tried the flickrfs?
[08:49] <shirish> xtknight: I get the following output http://pastebin.ca/660026
[08:49] <xtknight> flickrfs eh?
[08:49] <xtknight> nope
[08:49] <Pici>  you need to use the fuse specific umount command first before you delete the mountpoint
[08:49] <xtknight> do gmailfs and flickrfs abide by the rules of gmail and flickr?
[08:49] <Pici> Probably not
[08:50] <xtknight> shirish, i dont know then.  i would just delete it in recovery mode
[08:50] <xtknight> we could go in another hundred circles trying to fix it now or just remove it from elsewhere
[08:50] <shirish> xtknight: ok meaning, go into recovery mode, then sudo rm -rf /mnt/gmailfs there?
[08:51] <xtknight> shirish, yes
[08:51] <shirish> xtknight: ok cool, bbiaf
[08:51] <Pici> shirish: try fusermount -u /mnt/gmailfs first... nevermind
[08:51] <xtknight> he already removed it from mtab though
[08:51] <Pici> bleh
[08:51] <xtknight> probably was a bad idea of mine but it usually fixes it for me
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133014 in nautilus (main) "[gutsy]  File-roller Drag and drop works when adding, but not when extracting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133014
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133015 in cupsys (main) "Cups can't remove its own tempfiles" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133015
[08:59] <shirish> xtknight: thanx for your help, maybe I need to also file a bug about not giving documentation about uninstalling/unmounting stuff in case if the user doesn't want it anymore on the system
[09:06] <xtknight> shirish, i guess so
[09:06] <xtknight> gmailfs is fairly buggy imo so it only makes snse
[09:06] <xtknight> sense
[09:09] <shirish> xtknight: right, it is buggy, the guy at the site richard jones http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html says its his first attempt
[09:09] <shirish> xtknight: I have used this piece of software on windows & its pretty cool, here its pretty buggy but better.
[09:12] <shirish> xtknight: have a look see if you  will at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gmailfs/+bug/133019
[09:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133019 in gmailfs "documentation doesn't give uninstalling instructions" [Undecided,New] 
[09:13] <shirish> xtknight: if you think this is ok, then will file the same upstream i.e. debian as the guy who wrote the manual Sebastian Delafond is there as well as here. Most of the documentation about gmailfs is done by him.
[09:14] <xtknight> shirish, ok, well im not sure why you had so much trouble uninstalling
[09:15] <shirish> xtknight: bah, I didn't mean uninstalling gmailfs, I meant unmounting as we did just now
[09:16] <shirish> xtknight: there are no written instructions as for mount there were.
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #132214 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashed during migration assistant" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132214
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #133016 in kdegraphics (main) "Kooka is no opening the device selection dialog [gutsy 7.10] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133016
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #133017 in Ubuntu "Desktop effects and Lock Screen Shortcut" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133017
[09:17] <ubotu> New bug: #133018 in Ubuntu "Desktop effects and moving windows between desktops" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133018
[09:18] <xtknight> shirish, ahh
[09:22] <xtknight> shirish, if i'm being a little brief/terse right now it's because i'm tired ;)
[09:23] <shirish> xtknight: actually lots of this complications could be done away with if we get some kind of good GTK dialog boxes where quite a few things are assumed, for people who know about this stuff in an advanced way can always configure things for themselves, its for the average joe making it simple
[09:23] <shirish> xtknight: i have that effect on people, sorry
[09:24] <xtknight> shirish, let's see what responses we get on the three bugs we have filed before we file any more
[09:24] <xtknight> maybe they will decide to sync some version in debian that's newer and apparently fixed all of them, or maybe there will be some miracle fix
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #133019 in gmailfs (universe) "documentation doesn't give unmounting instructions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133019
[09:25] <shirish> xtknight: good you are on positive frame on mind :)
[09:49] <ubotu> New bug: #133020 in Ubuntu "vmware server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133020
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133023 in banshee (universe) "Creates "$HOME directory in ~/" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133023
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133024 in dpkg (main) "[gutsy]  perl warning in dpkg-source" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133024
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #133028 in qt4-x11 (main) "qt4.3 application gets aliased font" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133028
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #132913 in ubiquity (main) "Installed crashed (when I want to installed from the live)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132913
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133030 in Ubuntu "totem-xine and mplayer cannot play any video" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133030
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133031 in gnome-power-manager (main) "System does not suspend after switch user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133031
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #133035 in gconf-editor (main) "La aplicacin gconf-editor intent modificar un aspecto de su configuracin que el administrador del sistema o el proveedor del sistema operativo no le permite modificar. Algunas de las opciones que ha elegido puede que no tengan efecto, o puede que no se guarden para la prxima vez que use la aplicacin." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133035
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133033 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  DVBCut - DVB FreeView MPEG-TS Editing" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133033
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133036 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  Most hotkeys stopped working after upgrade on IBM T42" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133036
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133037 in firefox (main) "rss feed empty in firefox and other mozilla-based apps" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133037
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #133039 in ntfs-3g (universe) "[gutsy]  Using ntfs-3g by default mising locale option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133039
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