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[01:32] hi Zombie [01:32] Hi. [01:32] I'm needing some Applications packaged for Fiesty. [01:33] accoring to apt-cache search, there isn't any package called *hugo* or containing hugo in its description [01:33] according* [01:33] freedroidrpg, hugo, sdlmame [01:33] Have any suggestions to rectify this? [01:34] package it [01:35] I'm not familiar with your packaging arch. [01:35] I'm only familiar with RPM [01:35] file a needs-packaging bug [01:35] let me find the wiki page [01:36] Zombie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New === mohammad [n=mohammad@auth2-27.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] would someone please let me know where I can find a gnome applet developing howto? === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@cl-266.bru-01.be.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mohammad [n=mohammad@auth2-27.uwaterloo.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-213-196-245-230.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart is now known as dothebart === hroo772 [n=hroo772@pool-71-126-176-42.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hroo772 [n=hroo772@pool-71-126-176-42.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === sooth [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242357234.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] Anybody know how to get debarchiver working on Ubuntu? === chrisle [n=chris@e178122004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mok0 [n=mok@56347b3e.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-210-95.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbraley [n=rbraley@ip70-162-94-23.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisle [n=chris@e178122004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === avoine [n=avoine@modemcable003.251-59-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sooth [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242357234.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["ERC] === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === justinwray [n=justinwr@pool-71-248-27-207.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] Heya gang [02:51] Heya bddebian! [02:51] Hello RAOF [02:52] Hey, if I took Xgl and turned it into not-a-bzr branch for you, would you like to review it? [02:52] heh [02:52] I'll pull from bzr if you want but last time I couldn't build it that way?? [02:52] It's available, but it's got a 5mb diff, sadly. [02:52] Egads [02:52] (Yay for autotools) [02:53] 5mb worth of configure, Makefiles, et al. [02:53] 1K worth of changes you might actually want to review. [02:53] If I had been thinking right, I may have just b-d'd on autotools. [02:54] How do I force debian/rules to use bash? Just !/bin/bash ?? [02:54] RAOF: Where is it? [02:54] bddebian: cooperteam.net [02:55] I'll grab a dgettable link for you, if you like. [02:55] http://www.cooperteam.net/xserver-xgl_1.1.99.1~git20070727-0ubuntu1.dsc [02:55] Nah, that's Ok as long as .diff.gz, .dsc, and tarball are there? [02:55] Yes. [02:58] Oh how novel, downloaded already.. :-) [02:58] Brb, need a smoke [02:59] Hmm, did I grab the wrong one? diff.gz is only 700Kb [02:59] The unpacked diff is 5 mb [02:59] Not the gzipped one. === wrayjustin [n=justinwr@pool-71-248-27-207.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] Oh, yeah, duh.. sheesh === mwolson [i=mwolson@host-212-116.inlacol.clients.pavlovmedia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === predius [n=predius@190.8.154.185] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] do be do be dooo [03:05] bddebian: You might want to check that I've got the right XS-vcs-bzr line in debian/control. I think that what you've got should have it, but I only remembered to add it recently. [03:06] RAOF: Yeah I'll be sure to check that its in there.. ;-P === bddebian wouldn't care less === Jazzva is now known as Jazzva|away [03:12] RAOF: I don't think xgl has enough build-deps ;-P [03:12] bddebian: It's only a page long at 80x24 :P === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] Mez!!!!!! [03:14] :-) [03:14] bddebian, !!! [03:15] How have you been? [03:15] RAOF: Ouch! [03:17] StevenK: What's that in reference to, the b-ds or the 5mb diff? :) [03:17] bddebian - am good other than my install being forked to hell [03:17] :-( [03:17] StevenK: Gonna do gem next? :-) [03:17] RAOF: Both [03:18] Heh [03:18] bddebian, cant boot unless i use the feisty kernel, and everything is evil when I dont use it [03:18] time for a reinstall I think [03:18] Ugh [03:19] and is evil when I use it (pidgin wont even run!) [03:19] Mez: Yeah, that's bitten me too. Empathy works :)- [03:21] RAOF: How long does it usually take for you to build? === RAOF checks his buildlogs [03:22] Last build took 7 minutes. [03:23] Anyone working on a package for vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux? It would be great to have this on the repositories. [03:23] 7 minutes? Sheesh, what type of machine do you have? [03:23] Athlon 64 3500+, 1 Gb ram? [03:23] That was with all the b-d's cached locally. [03:23] RAOF: and sbuild instead of pbuilder? [03:24] ajmitch: Totally [03:24] I presume that pbuilder-satisfydepends would take about 7 minutes by itself [03:24] RAOF... empathy? [03:24] ajmitch: If you weren't using -gdebi, yes. [03:25] Mez: Telepathy-based IM client. [03:25] I've had problems with -gdebi in the past [03:25] well RAOF, to be fair, the ernel isue is a PITa [03:25] Well, it doesn't check versioning, certainly. [03:25] RAOF: any good? [03:25] Mez: Eh. It works. I don't really ask much of my IM clients, frankly. [03:26] I wub pidgin tho [03:27] RAOF: failed to launch [03:27] Me either since I don't use any :-) === bddebian realizes that he is just a grumpy old bastard [03:27] Mez: Well, ... === RAOF runs! [03:28] http://rafb.net/p/pareg156.html [03:30] Mez: Go file a "empathy should depend on dbus-x11" bug :) [03:30] ;) [03:31] RAOF: cant be botehrd.. [03:31] lol [03:31] I'm just downloading tribe 4 [03:34] RAOF: I assume all the missing manpages are expected? [03:34] bbiam [03:34] bddebian: Yes :( [03:34] I'm working (slowly) on them. [03:35] But *nothing* in X has a manpage! [03:44] Yay. Success. [03:44] $WORK's new vmware server is up and racked. === minghua [i=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK wonders if UVF has hit yet. [03:56] StevenK: Tomorrow for my time zone ;-P [03:56] RAOF: NP. This is the only other linda warning I see: W: xserver-xgl; Long descriptions contains short description. [03:59] RAOF, got empathy working but it wants a server name [03:59] snd i wanna use Yahoo [04:00] bddebian: Oh. I didn't change the descriptions, but I can change that if you like. === justinwray [n=justinwr@pool-71-248-27-207.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] RAOF: Not a bigge. I think there are some licenses on the planet that aren't include in debian/copyright ;-P [04:01] bddebian: Heh. [04:03] Do the .desktop files really belong in /usr/share/xsessions? [04:04] bddebian: I doubt it. [04:04] bddebian: That's where xsession files go, and xsession files are desktop files. [04:05] But you have seperate xsession files, no? [04:06] bddebian: You'll notice that /usr/share/xsessions contains gnome.desktop, the gnome session. [04:06] OK [04:06] bddebian: No. I have separate *wrapper* scripts, because our xsession runner can't handle passing parameters. [04:08] Well it looks fine to me. I don't know (hope to God) you don't need all the copyright holders for the xprint stuff :) [04:09] BTW, the XSBC-Vcs crap is NOT in debian/control [04:09] bddebian: Ah, curses. [04:09] It is in the bzr branch, I believe. === phoenixx [n=phoenix@189.5.194.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === amachu [n=amachu@122.164.122.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] RAOF: Unfortunately I can't install to test it currently but the packaging/building is fine [04:24] bddebian: Ok. Thanks. [04:24] Hm. How is this going to work, re uploading? [04:26] I'll fix the description warning, and make sure the vcs-bzr line is in there before I worry too much more about that, I guess. === apachelogger_ [n=me@N878P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] Holy crap 7009 New bugs :-( [04:30] It's OK. Kmos filed probably 7003 of them of which 2 are valid. [04:31] [04:31] harsh :) [04:32] Hey, I gave him credit for sometimes getting stuff right. I'm an optimist at heart. [04:34] heh === chrisle [n=chris@e178122004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] I guess it's pointless to look at the "upgrade" bugs a day before UVF eh? [04:39] Not really. [04:39] Not really? [04:39] If there are some necessary ones in there, UVFe! === ScottK get his "No" ready. [04:40] Heh. === justinwray [n=justinwr@pool-71-248-27-207.bltmmd.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@ns1.clipsalportal.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] ScottK: Thanks buddy === ScottK just thinks we have UVF for a reason and so ought to stick with it unless stuff is broken. [04:43] Indeed. === ScottK mumbles about democracy player or whatever it's called now and figures by that reasoning it can be uploaded until release day. [04:45] Why is gnunet marked as Fix Committed when it has not been uploaded [04:46] Probably by mistake. [04:46] Look in the activity log to see who marked it. [04:46] ScottK: You can still upload miro before UVF! [04:46] I don't even know what miro is. [04:46] ScottK: democracyplayer 0.9.8 [04:47] Ah. [04:47] With a swanky new name :P [04:47] I heard it had a new name, but hadn't heard what it was. [04:48] Anyway, u-u-s is subscribed to a package for it. === ScottK is busy trying to order groceries before the children go hungry. [04:50] Soft! === RAOF suggests tin soaked in sulphuric acid. [04:52] If they get hungry they whine and cry all night long and I get no sleep. === mwolson [i=mwolson@host-212-116.inlacol.clients.pavlovmedia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] ScottK: I'll have about 20 or so UVF bugs to file for you [05:04] Any of them worth approving? [05:04] they should all be of the sort "package is currently completely broken" [05:04] or "here's a nice fat security bug" [05:04] Sounds reasonable. [05:05] but I should upload f-spot now before the deadline === ScottK looks around to see if we have a documented exception approval process and where it went.... [05:05] Yes, please. [05:05] yes we do have a documented approval process [05:05] Ho hum, what to do next.. [05:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess [05:06] MOTU/Processes/UVF redirects there [05:06] we have been working on the 2 ACKs needed for UVFe [05:07] oh, and you probably want to change that to subscribe the motu-uvf team rather than assign :) [05:07] motu-uvf team member who gives the 2nd ACK should confirm the bug === ScottK looks around for the other lucky winners... [05:07] Sounds reasonable. === ajmitch is no longer a lucky winner [05:09] You gotta run to win. === ScottK thinks ajmitch should've run. [05:09] why? [05:10] You're quit capable and then maybe fewer people would've voted for me and I'd have lost. [05:11] there were 5 candidates for 5 slots [05:11] it would be very hard for you to lose [05:11] I doubt that many would have voted for me :) [05:11] Right. That's why I was hoping for more qualified people to run. [05:12] you're qualified enough [05:12] I mostly jumped on to make sure we'd be able to fill all the slots. === ajmitch isn't [05:12] Sure. [05:12] because I think an important qualification should be "works on ubuntu" === tonyyarusso points out that you're both more qualified than he, so why not? [05:14] tonyyarusso: last I saw you weren't going for the motu-uvf team either [05:14] Well you've certainly been around less, but I'd like to see that change. [05:14] ScottK: oh no, I've been around a lot [05:14] Don't worry though, I'm used to not getting what I want. [05:14] just not doing anything :) [05:14] OK. [05:14] ajmitch: nope [05:15] tonyyarusso: How goes son of the son of Nvu (whatever it is called)? [05:15] ScottK: You don't really trust yourself to be on -uvf? [05:15] Well I've been doing less lately too. [05:15] StevenK: I do, just management stuff like that isn't fun. [05:15] I'll do it well, I just won't particularly enjoy it. [05:15] StevenK: he foolishly thinks I'd be a better choice [05:16] Heh [05:16] His primary qualification being "He's not me". [05:16] I don't mind doing it. Based on what I saw last year it isn't too much work. [05:16] ScottK: Varied. We have code for a new release, but are going through a few hurdles for packaging. Additionally, it's still based off of the quite old Aviary mozilla branch, which asac isn't terribly happy about, but which might be too much work to fix for the time being. I'm still holding onto hope for making the August 30th deadline, but we'll likely need a fair bit of help, since neither Kaze or I know as much as most folks. [05:17] StevenK: it wasn't too bad, I managed to do it for a couple of releases === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] after doing it for that long, why stick my hand up for another round? [05:17] tonyyarusso: Just get it released and uploadable. Don't dawdle. You can do bug fixing for a long time.... [05:17] ajmitch: Which is an entirely reasonable reason not to do it. [05:18] ScottK: Right [05:18] ajmitch: So you didn't stick your hand up because you were sick of it, or because you wanted a break from it? [05:18] tonyyarusso: People ask me what should I use instead of Nvu and I tend to say, "Uh ..." === tonyyarusso should build up his gutsy pbuilder so it's ready to go tomorrow [05:19] That's the spirit [05:19] ScottK: yeah, my mom is one of those people. [05:19] !pbuilder [05:19] pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [05:20] My usual answer is, "Well I use Kate, but for that you actually need to know some HTML." [05:20] StevenK: because I was sick of ubuntu work at the time, also [05:21] How can you possibly get sick of Ubuntu work? [05:21] Well I've been working up to it recently. [05:21] oh I don't know [05:22] *cough* [05:22] oh, right - I'll have to update debootstrp [05:22] *ap [05:22] Apparently it's totally OK in Ubuntu to go completely insane and cause lots of work for other people as long as you take a break and get sane every few days in between. === tonyyarusso gets nervous about such things [05:22] - No kidding this time. [05:22] StevenK: besides, you were doing an admirable job doing everything [05:22] hehe [05:22] Ha! [05:23] You jest. === bddebian does an admirable job of doing nothing! :-) [05:23] Gutsy's debootstrap isn't likely to break anything atm is it? [05:24] tonyyarusso: If you use the one in feisty-backports it'll work fine in Feisty and do a Gutsy pbuilder no problem. [05:24] IIRC. [05:24] aaaah [05:25] ScottK: erm, minor problem [05:25] -backports aren't created until after release. [05:25] or wait, maybe not [05:25] That's why I said feisty-backports. [05:25] You are running Feisty, aren't you? [05:26] never mind - packages.ubuntu.com has it listed, you just can't search feisty-backports. Was able to browse to it fine after looking up the section. [05:31] oh my, dpkg triggers landed [05:32] wats a trigger [05:32] what [05:34] ajmitch: "oh my" indeed. Though it's a bit funny to see such a change in a 1.14.5ubuntu3 -> 1.14.5ubuntu4 new version. :-) [05:34] Quote from #ubuntu-devel earlier today "[14:54] OMG it works and I'm going to upload it. I wonder where all the bugs are ?" [05:34] Time is US Eastern. [05:35] heh [05:35] Landed is probably the right word. [05:35] Any Sendmail users out there? [05:36] Sic transit sendmail. [05:36] no thanks, we're sane [05:36] "I'm going to upload it to Ubuntu this evening - only to Ubuntu right now because I'm prioritising meeting the hard deadline of Ubuntu's feature freeze, tomorrow." [05:37] That's from Ian, in http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2007/08/msg00009.html [05:37] Any recovering Sendmail users out there who remember enough to help me make the dkim-milter init work reasonably for both Postfix and Sendmail? === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] Oh, i heart these triggers [05:44] Me too. [05:44] Oh joy octave2.9 is "maintained" in Debian svn === tonyyarusso noticed the d-i upload to dapper-changes and was curious [05:45] scrollkeeper being run once during upgrade is nice. Also, I think it makes sense for updating the initramfs, too. [05:47] I've had upgrades with update-initramfs being run about 7 or 8 times, which was slightly annoying [05:48] Agreed. === StevenK files 3 syncs before UCF [05:52] Er, UVF [05:52] gem? [05:53] Okay, okay, I'll look at it now. [05:53] Heh, you don't have to === StevenK is anyway [05:53] :'-( === bddebian feels bad now === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] bddebian: Don't feel bad, I've just looked at 3 other packages anyway. === phoenixx [n=phoenix@189.5.194.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] where can i get the bzr branch url to use with bzr co? === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] jmg: From launchpad. [06:08] jmg: Each branch's page has a url to branch from it. [06:08] Unless you're after something in particular... [06:09] https://launchpad.net/truecrypt-installer [06:09] Hit the "code" tab. [06:10] I presume you're after the debian branch; it has url https://code.launchpad.net/~jari-aalto/truecrypt-installer/debian [06:10] That worked ,thanks. [06:11] Wow, bazaar is mighty slow. [06:11] Nooo, don't do it.. :) === RAOF tries to provide both fish and instruction in the use of tackle :) [06:12] Hah [06:12] RAOF: Just set him on fire, then jmg will be warm for the rest of his life. === bddebian tries to provoke reason and logic [06:17] StevenK: i am decarbonised === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] StevenK: don't tempt him [06:18] bzr: ERROR: Connection error: while sending GET /~jari-aalto/truecrypt-installer/debian/.bzr/branch-format: (110, 'Connection timed out') [06:19] Hm. [06:19] https? [06:19] bddebian: gem sync filed [06:19] I wonder when I'll get my next "you're expiring from a team" email from launchpad [06:20] ajmitch: Don't go. Stay good. :-) [06:20] StevenK: I expire from core-dev in ~3 weeks, iirc [06:20] doh :-( [06:20] StevenK: Thanks! [06:21] sniff [06:21] yes [06:22] Ah yes add SSL encryption over bzr, that ought to speed it up... === bddebian hides [06:22] It's unlikely to make it significantly slower. [06:22] True, it would be hard to get much slower === porthose [n=charliej@24-119-101-247.cpe.cableone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ajmitch waits for the hating on bzr to finish === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-36-18.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] I'm done, sorry :-) [06:26] It'll get quite a lot faster with 0.20 [06:26] ajmitch: I don't particularly hate it, I just dislike dealing with yet anothter vcs that is (for my purposes) unique to one project. [06:26] RAOF: Two times nothing is still ... [06:26] ...thrashing launchpad! [06:26] And it will still be overkill for what we do [06:27] Maybe. As far as VCSs go, there's stuff about bzr that I miss in every other one. === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] Well I intend to use bzr as my vcs of choice for some other projects that I will be starting in the near future. [06:28] RAOF yes, but hardly the point for me. I have to deal with cvs, svn, and git elsewhere. I don't want to learn one more just for Ubuntu. [06:28] ScottK: True. [06:28] Note that I'm not the one that gets to pick on those projects. [06:28] Meh, they mostly all fall to common principles. [06:29] Yeah. In that respect, it's sub-optimal. [06:29] StevenK: Well, two broad camps. Those that make branching hideously painful, and those that don't. [06:30] I don't mind using cvs, svn and bzr. Like I was saying to someone a few days ago "I also used tla." Their reply was "If you can do useful work with tla, you can use any VCS." [06:30] RAOF: Branching in SVN is simple. It's merging that's a *PAIN*. [06:31] StevenK: True. Similar to falling, really. :P [06:31] Hah === ScottK installs libgtk1.2 === StevenK is vaguely pondering switching from CVS to bzr here. [06:31] I'm not anti-vcs. I use cvs often for Hurd stuff I do, I just think it makes absolutely no sense for Universe [06:32] Mainly because SVN can't seem to deal with a direcory that contains over 15,000 directories. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mrigns [n=mrigns@unaffiliated/mrigns] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson was also a tla fan back in the day [06:52] s/tla/nwa/ [06:53] s/tla/tna/ [06:54] mwolson: I got sick of the community surrounding it, Tom Lord himself, and the fact that it would break regularly. === ScottK gets sick of waiting for claws-mail to compile and goes to bed. === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === s0y [n=mickey@ip70-187-166-107.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=mario@157-186.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phoenixx [n=phoenix@189.5.194.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK tries to figure out why his sound doesn't work. [08:05] I don't even get an error message - just no sound, which is what's irritating. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === torkel_ [n=torkel@ip65.degernas.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-24-190.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Havis [n=Havis@adsl-d118.84-47-48.t-com.sk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-34be8d35d6988126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === oracle2025 [n=oracle@85-127-189-82.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@93.170-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] wow, i'm actually putting something together which isnt a direct sponsorship and upload [09:32] Hobbsee, :) [09:32] this feels really weird [09:33] it's still a request from someone else though [09:33] :P [09:36] err....a build-depend on g++? [09:36] er, gcc, that is === Hobbsee removes it [09:36] :P [09:37] oh, twitch. [09:38] the last version b-d's on gcc too, which is currently in ubuntu [09:38] :P === RAOF grins, cheshire like. === Hobbsee isnt sure this copyright is entirely correct either, but will ignore it on the basis that the archive admins let it into ubuntu before === pygi thinks Hobbsee knows better then that [09:41] pygi: it's a "the author hasnt listed his email address" rather than a "there are files there that are under a different licence not listed in debian/copyright" [09:41] oh well === Hobbsee hmmms. [09:43] these scripts have moved, or something..... [09:43] oh, wait. [09:45] this is what happens when you rm -rf * [09:45] Hobbsee, you think we should get "Cheese" in the repositories? :) [09:45] pygi: maybe :) [09:45] Hobbsee, we have it already o.O [09:46] seriously outdated tho :P [09:46] Hobbsee, are we under UVF already, or not yet? [09:46] pygi: i dont think so [09:46] that's why i'm uploading this this afternoon [09:46] Hobbsee, wohooo :) Then you can upload for me :) [09:47] hah. === pygi gotta abuse Hobbsee a bit :p [09:47] i said i wasnt doing sponsoring stuff, i've been looking at that damned queue too much already. [09:47] Hobbsee, I'm sure you'll help :) === RobinD [n=robind@69-30-77-125.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] right, that's uploaded. === RAOF does a little dance === norsetto [n=norsetto@host217-197-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] morning norsetto [09:53] oh wait, i was going to upload norsetto's patch too. [09:53] apart from that, i'm not doing any more sponsoring :P [09:53] morning :-) [09:54] Hobbsee, but ofcourse you are ! [09:56] norsetto: compiling [09:57] Hobbsee: Is miro on your queue at all? ;) [09:57] RAOF: definetly not. [09:57] RAOF: have you written that mail yet? [09:57] RAOF: although, if i ignore it, you'll just file a UVFe, and i'll have to look at the bugger anyway, wont i? [09:57] Hobbsee: Totally. [09:57] RAOF: you suck. [09:57] :P [09:58] Actually, it may not be UVFe worthy. [09:58] Really. === RAOF thinks. [09:58] oh, excellent! [09:58] Actually, there are some annoying bugs fixed. === Hobbsee can ignore it forever, then! [09:58] RAOF: how crackful is it? [09:58] Hobbsee: No more cracfull than the democracyplayer that's already in the archives. [09:59] Actually, a little less so. [09:59] RAOF: oh, i've just had an evil thought. === Hobbsee has learnt well from mithrandir. [09:59] It's slowly moving away from reimplementing private DBUS methods. [09:59] somebody crashed my panel again o.O === RAOF awaits with dread. [10:00] RAOF: you never saw my core dev app, presumably? [10:00] True, I didn't. [10:00] RAOF: mithrandir volunteered me, as i refused to put myself forward. [10:01] Oh. === RAOF sees where this is heading. [10:01] hehe : [10:01] * :) [10:02] Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com): [10:02] imlib_1.9.15-3ubuntu1.dsc: done. [10:02] imlib_1.9.15.orig.tar.gz: done. [10:02] imlib_1.9.15-3ubuntu1.diff.gz: done. [10:02] imlib_1.9.15-3ubuntu1_source.changes: done. [10:02] Successfully uploaded packages. [10:02] hurrah, thanks norsetto! [10:02] cool! [10:03] RAOF: okay, where's this crack-infested thing? [10:04] Hobbsee: In the u-u-s queue, I believe. [10:04] then it was unhelpful to delete my u-u-s email, i take it [10:05] RAOF: can https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/democracyplayer be shrunk with the new version? [10:05] or you're utilising the closing by changelog function? [10:05] Hobbsee: I am closing with changelog. [10:05] But I don't think many of those bugs are actually valid. [10:06] RAOF: cool :) [10:06] Like specto, my packages don't have bugs :P [10:07] (This is a bare-faced lie) [10:07] hehe [10:07] i saw the specto stuff [10:07] Any packagers I'd like to negotiate with?> [10:08] Specto doesn't have bugs, though. At least after I patched some of the totally broken stuff :) [10:08] negotiate with? [10:08] RAOF: :) === RAOF is available at the reasonable rate of $35/hr [10:10] I have some applications that I have in RPM format I'd like to see packaged as Debs for Fiesty in an expediant manner. [10:10] They are open source applications. [10:10] Not going into Feisty, at this point. You *may* get them into gutsy, although you're cutting it fine. [10:10] they wouldnt go into the archives, if they were for feisty [10:11] If however you're just after packages you can poke people with, that should be ok. [10:11] In particular freedroidrpg, hugo, sdlmame (thats not the same as XMame) vavoom [10:12] <\sh> Zombie, are you hosting those rpms on opensuse build service eventually? [10:12] Zombie: are you interested in packaging them yourself, or finding others to do them? [10:12] Well, I already have packages as SRPMs. [10:12] Not Binary RPMs [10:12] I need someone to help me "convert" them. [10:13] Alien isn't suitible for this task. [10:13] <\sh> Zombie, put those packages into opensuse build service (http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service and I will take a look if they are feasable to include them into Ubuntu === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:15] <\sh> moins jono [10:15] RAOF: how long does miro take to build? [10:15] Not very long. [10:15] Actually, that's a lie. [10:15] It's C++, built twice (once per pyversion) [10:15]