[12:46] <Ubulette> anyone knows where the Build-Depends syntax is described ?
[12:47] <Ubulette> things like "libhal-dev (>= 0.5) [!kfreebsd-i386 !kfreebsd-amd64] , libcam-dev [kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64] "
[12:47] <Ubulette> asac, do you know ?
[12:49] <Jazzva> Dunno...
[12:50] <Jazzva> asac: I think I'll need to rewrite some parts I wrote... ubufoxCheckFile() and stuff... I need it now, but I can't use it since it's too much specific...
[01:07] <asac> Jazzva: there is no need to make it perfect now
[01:07] <asac> so not a problm
[01:07] <asac> we can reorganize/design later
[01:08] <Jazzva> Already did, now trying to get event handler to work...
[01:08] <asac> Ubulette: debian develeopers docs/policy
[01:08] <asac> (if you have luck) :)
[01:11] <Ubulette> got it, thanks
[01:11] <Jazzva> Hmm... I think I made FF block :)...
[01:12] <Ubulette> "(It is not permitted for some names to be prepended with exclamation marks and others not.)" is what I was looking for..
[01:12] <Ubulette> otherwise, that would be just black magic or vodoo
[01:12] <asac> just looking at that sentence hides the context i wouldneed
[01:12] <asac> what is your problem?
[01:13] <Ubulette> who ?
[01:13] <asac> ah i see
[01:13] <asac> now i understand ...  not mix of ! and !!
[01:13] <asac> :)
[01:13] <Ubulette> no, just dont do [!foo bar] 
[01:13] <asac> or what is that citation about?
[01:14] <asac> yes thats what i mean
[01:14] <asac> don't mix ! and !!
[01:14] <asac> :)
[01:14] <Jazzva> Can I set attributes of tags that are not in our xul file?
[01:14] <Ubulette> only allowed [foo bar]  and [!foo !bar] 
[01:14] <asac> yes
[01:14] <asac> with foo == !!foo :)
[01:14] <Ubulette> oh
[01:14] <asac> was not obvious ;)
[01:15] <asac> Jazzva: why do you want to do that?
[01:15] <Jazzva> Well, to add "onattrmodified" attribute to getMore label...
[01:15] <asac> but in general yes ... if you get a ref on that tag
[01:15] <Jazzva> So I can catch the event...
[01:15] <asac> Jazzva: hmm
[01:16] <asac> maybe programatic is simpler?
[01:16] <asac> e.g. just addDOMEventListener
[01:16] <asac> or however that method was called
[01:16] <Jazzva> I think it's addEventListener
[01:17] <Jazzva> But I just can't figure how to get which tag sent the event, so I thought I need to have onattrmodified set... Perhaps I'm wrong...
[01:29] <asac> you are wrong
[01:29] <asac> addEvenListener("DOMAttrChanged" <<--- look this up in the mutation reference)
[01:29] <asac> should do it
[01:43] <asac> Jazzva: for me getMore is hidden
[01:43] <asac> for Languages
[01:44] <asac> and not hidden for the other two
[01:44] <asac> so register for the attr change event
[01:44] <asac> and all should be fine
[01:44] <Jazzva> I'm doing that...
[01:44] <Jazzva> Just need to test it now...
[01:45] <asac> Jazzva: another option is to listen for the radio group (the tabs on top)
[01:45] <asac> and listen for the  selectedIndex attribute
[01:45] <Jazzva> asac: Right... I thought of that
[01:45] <asac> or selected item
[01:45] <asac> but getMore should work
[01:45] <asac> can you resolve that tag?
[01:46] <asac> with document.getElementById("getMore") ?
[01:46] <Jazzva> But I think this one is better, especially if getMore is not hidden for both Extensions and Themes (there is a theme pack in gnome-app-install :))
[01:46] <asac> try alert(" test "+document.getElementById(..)
[01:46] <Jazzva> Yep
[01:46] <asac> well i think observing getMore is more fruitful ... indeed
[01:47] <asac> hmmm maybe listening for selecteted on the radio button itself would be even better:
[01:47] <asac> e.g. get by id: "extensions-view"
[01:48] <asac> if that is selected we want gnome-app-install with extensions
[01:48] <asac> later when we have theme packages we can listen on themes-view as well
[01:48] <asac> and locales-view
[01:48] <Jazzva> Well, we have one theme pack
[01:48] <asac> please liten for the radio state
[01:48] <asac> it gives us more info
[01:48] <asac> listen
[01:48] <Jazzva> Ok :)
[01:48] <asac> more concrete info
[01:49] <asac> e.g. we don't have to parse the label of the link to guess if its themes extensions or whatever ;)
[01:49] <asac> for now just display it when the extensions-view is selected
[01:49] <Jazzva> Yay, it works :D... I mean, the event listener :)
[01:49] <asac> cool
[01:49] <asac> Jazzva: i think you get which attribute changed ... or can you register filtered?
[01:50] <Jazzva> Yes, I get the name of attribute in attrName
[01:50] <asac> but you can always just test for selected
[01:50] <Jazzva> Yes...
[01:50] <asac> independent of what kind of attr changed
[01:50] <asac> its a waste of cycles most likely
[01:50] <asac> but who cares atm
[01:50] <asac> its beta
[01:50] <asac> Jazzva: well then just react on selected c
[01:50] <asac> hanges
[01:50] <Jazzva> Ok
[01:51] <Jazzva> Well, I think I added a few more things that causes waste of cycles, that's what needs to be a bit redesigned
[01:51] <asac> in case you don't get an event on initial load you can also implement onload
[01:51] <asac> well i doubt you did something really serious ;)
[01:51] <asac> but who knows :)
[01:59] <Jazzva> It's not really working :/...
[01:59] <Jazzva> Probably some other typo I made...
[02:21] <Jazzva> Ok, working... it has two checks for "selected" attribute, 'cause I have to figure out why it won't work with attrName, prevValue and newValue
[02:22] <Jazzva> I will now apply this to clean branch and will upload.. in separate commits ;)
[02:22] <Jazzva> asac ^
[02:22] <asac> Jazzva: rock!
[02:22] <asac> i will look tomorrow morning what's there :)
[02:23] <Jazzva> Ok
[02:23] <asac> i am off now
[02:23] <Jazzva> Oh, and I'll first merge with your branch
[02:23] <asac> goodnight
[02:23] <Jazzva> 'night
[02:23] <asac> if it takes to much time leave the merging to me
[02:23] <asac> just maintain your branch and merge what i merged onto your branch then
[02:23] <asac> should be easier
[02:23] <Jazzva> Well, I'll try :)
[02:24] <asac> ah right you can still pull
[02:24] <asac> then try
[02:24] <Jazzva> All changes applied successfully. :)
[03:10] <Jazzva> asac: Revision 23 is when it's merged with your branch, look from there...
[03:10] <Jazzva> I'm off... Have fun :)...
[03:44] <kompozer> hi
[03:45] <kompozer> asac, tonyyarusso: I have bad news about the aviary patch for the extension manager
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> kompozer: oh?
[03:46] <kompozer> three problems
[03:46] <kompozer> 1) it does not solve the issue of the 'extensions' directory
[03:47] <kompozer> 2) it doesn't allow to uninstall a langpack (which is a blocker for me)
[03:48] <kompozer> 3) it does not solve the problem of the warning we get in the terminal each time we try to install an XPI
[03:48] <kompozer> *** getItemProperty failing for lack of an item. This means getResourceForItem        failed to locate a resource for aItemID (item ID = file:///home/kaze/Documents/kompozer/xpi/HandCoder-0.3.5.xpi, property = disabled)
[03:48] <kompozer> *** getItemProperty failing for lack of an item. This means getResourceForItem        failed to locate a resource for aItemID (item ID = file:///home/kaze/Documents/ko
[03:48] <kompozer> this one
[03:49] <kompozer> 3) is ok - it's just a warning and it doesn't affect the installation (afaik)
[03:50] <kompozer> 1) is more a problem, since it doesn't solve the question of the 'extensions' dir - but I can use a workaround, like creating this dir with the 'rules' file
[03:50] <kompozer> 2) is a blocker. The patch I got from Motohiko works perfectly well
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> Sounds like the sort of thing asac would need to look at...
[03:51] <kompozer> well, I'd like to have his input for sure
[03:51] <kompozer> but he's sent me these patches because the aviary site manager was broken
[03:52] <kompozer> and as an extension developer, I think I can say that KompoZer's extension manager works well enough for me
[03:53] <kompozer> so if nobody minds, I'd rather use the version of the extension manager I've worked on, since it's been extensively tested
[04:05] <kompozer> tonyyarusso: still there?
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> kompozer: Yes, but not terribly useful for this issue.
[04:06] <kompozer> is there a problem if I don't apply these aviary patch because I have a better one?
[04:06] <kompozer> I mean, technically I know there's no problem, but my goal is to get KompoZer into Ubuntu's repositories
[04:07] <kompozer> so I wonder if that could make a /political/ problem or such
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> kompozer: I wouldn't be making the call, so I'm not sure.  Lacking a response in here, you might try asking in #ubuntu-motu and seeing if there's a policy person around.
[04:09] <kompozer> tonyyarusso: at what time is asac active on this channel usually?
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> kompozer: varies, I think. Was on an hour and a half before you joined here today.
[04:11] <Ubulette> he's in berlin, so same as france (you're from grenoble, right ?)
[04:11] <kompozer> tonyyarusso: never mind, I'm just gonna unpatch the extension manager for today and I'll try to reach asac tomorrow
[04:11] <kompozer> yeah right
[04:12] <kompozer> Ubulette: just out of curiosity, how do you know I'm from Grenoble?
[04:13] <Ubulette> :)
[04:13] <Ubulette> * kompozer (n=kaze@AGrenoble-152-1-82-162.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam
[04:13] <kompozer> next time I'll use a proxy
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> kompozer: or just get a cloak from staff
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> (see my /whois)
[04:14] <kompozer> neat
[04:14] <kompozer> ^^
[04:23] <kompozer> I got a silly question for mozillians
[04:24] <kompozer> how come when I do a 'make install', my app has a different icon than the one I get with a simple 'make'?
[04:24] <kompozer> does anybody know where 'make install' gets the application icon?
[04:26] <Ubulette> probably a branding issue
[04:29] <kompozer> how does it work?
[04:29] <kompozer> I suppose there's a switch to build with/without branding
[04:30] <Ubulette> yep, in configure
[04:31] <Ubulette> for firefox3, we used --with-branding=browser/branding/unofficial
[04:31] <Ubulette> for ff-trunk, nothing
[04:31] <Ubulette> it changes appname and icons/logos
[04:31] <kompozer> I see an '--enable-official-branding' switch
[04:32] <Ubulette> maybe
[04:32] <Ubulette> and there's a default icon. That could be what you see in one case
[04:33] <kompozer> I have a default.xpm in mozilla/composer/app
[04:33] <kompozer> this is the one I get when I do a 'make'
[04:33] <kompozer> but it's another one when I do a 'make install'
[04:33] <kompozer> I find that weird
[04:35] <Ubulette> with make install, do you see one from dist/branding ?
[04:36] <kompozer> I have no dist/branding directory
[04:39] <Ubulette> mozilla/other-licenses/branding ?
[04:40] <kompozer> neither
[04:40] <Ubulette> well, I don't know then. as usual, asac is the expert here :)
[04:40] <kompozer> I'll get him tomorrow after dinner then
[04:41] <kompozer> am Nachtisch-Zeit
[04:47] <kompozer> bye folks
[04:48] <kompozer> Ubulette: salut
[10:12] <asac> ole
[10:22] <asac> debian bug #431109
[10:22] <ubotu> Debian bug 431109 in debian-policy "[PROPOSAL]  Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks" [Wishlist,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/431109
[01:28] <Jazzva|away> Hello...
[01:29] <asac> hi
[01:29] <Jazzva> :)
[01:30] <Jazzva> Have you seen the ubufox?
[01:45] <asac> i will look now
[01:46] <Jazzva> Ok, I'm off for a while... Be back around 14:30...
[01:47] <asac> Jazzva|away: ok
[01:48] <asac> only fix left (which can go in after beta) is to test for hidden label in onload
[01:48] <asac> as the link is displayed if you open add-ons with languages pre-selected
[01:48] <asac> otherwise looks great!"
[01:48] <asac> otherwise looks great!
[01:48] <Jazzva|away> Hmm, just tell me how to put Languages tab :)... To install some other locale?
[01:49] <asac> Jazzva|away: its simple
[01:49] <asac> open add-ons dialog go go languages tab
[01:49] <asac> then close firefox
[01:49] <asac> next time you open add-ons language tab is preselected
[01:49] <Jazzva|away> I don't have Languages tab :)...
[01:49] <asac> and you see your link
[01:49] <Jazzva|away> Extensions and Themes...
[01:49] <asac> same for theme
[01:50] <Jazzva|away> Oh, right... I can test it with themes :)... (as it reacts to extensions-view.selected change)
[01:50] <Jazzva|away> Ok, I'll do that when I come back...
[01:50] <Jazzva|away> See you later...
[01:51] <asac> cu
[02:26] <asac> Jazzva: ok the pfs is now up at its beta url ... so default ubufox pref should work ... e.g.
[02:27] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/cgi-bin/plugin-finder.py?mimetype=video%2Fmpeg&appID={ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}&appVersion=2007073113&clientOS=Linux%20x86_64&chromeLocale=en-US
[02:27] <Jazzva> Ok...
[02:27] <asac> i had to hack the plugin-finder.py because it was not capable of apache running in threaded mode
[02:27] <asac> and it doesn't call pfs.mozilla.org ... because fw rules don't allow that atm
[02:28] <Jazzva> I'm testing to see if the button will be hidden on starting addons with some other tab... (but I think it won't :/)
[02:29] <Jazzva> Nope, it's not hidden...
[02:29] <Jazzva> I'll add the portion of code from OnAttrModified to onload :).
[02:29] <Jazzva> The one that checks if extensions-view is selected...
[02:30] <asac> Jazzva: yes ... that would be the right way to go
[02:30] <asac> if you duplicate code now, just remember to consolidate that at some point after 0.4~beta
[02:30] <asac> before 0.4~rc
[02:30] <asac> :)
[02:30] <Jazzva> Did you upload anything new to your branch? just to merge before editing?
[02:30] <asac> wait a second
[02:31] <Jazzva> K...
[02:31] <Jazzva> Well, I probably could make a function that would check some attribute of some element, so we can use it with something else... :)
[02:32] <Jazzva> But we'll still have to think of it... just to be sure not to overstuff it stupidly :).
[02:33] <asac> ok looks good
[02:33] <asac> pushing
[02:33] <asac> ok rev 35
[02:33] <asac> is up
[02:33] <Jazzva> Ok :), merging...
[02:33] <asac> please say "pulling" if u don't merge :)
[02:33] <asac> you confuse me ;)
[02:34] <Jazzva> I am merging
[02:34] <Jazzva> :)
[02:34] <asac> merging is done when our branches have diverged
[02:34] <Jazzva> Well, they have... haven't they? :)
[02:34] <asac> no ... as long as i have just new revisions on top of yours its not diverged
[02:34] <asac> but out-of-synch
[02:35] <asac> if i check in 36 ... and you checkin 36 somehow different ... then wie have diverged and a merge is needed
[02:35] <Jazzva> Ok then, pulling and applying changes to my branch... :)
[02:35] <asac> otherwise you just pull to get in synch again ;)
[02:35] <asac> yeah
[02:35] <asac> ok in 25 minutes i will close the curtain and do the release :)
[02:35] <asac> whatever you want to get in do it in that time :)
[02:36] <Jazzva> Ok, just to test it :)
[02:37] <asac> sure i think its plenty of time  to do what you want :)
[02:38] <Jazzva> Well, it takes some time to get FF up, restart it and stuff :)..
[02:39] <Jazzva> ...and it's not working...
[02:40] <Jazzva> because of syntax error...
[02:40] <asac> ;)
[02:43] <Jazzva> Done :)...
[02:45] <Jazzva> Pushed...
[02:46] <Jazzva> asac ^
[02:46] <Jazzva> I forgot to commit right after merging, so it also contains your changes in diff.
[02:52] <asac> huh?
[02:52] <asac> Jazzva: please uncommit
[02:52] <asac> you have to bzr pull (not merge)
[02:53] <asac> then you don't need to commit after that
[02:55] <Jazzva> Then just to pull your branch to my bzr/ubufox dir?
[02:55] <Jazzva> Ok, works :)
[02:59] <Jazzva> Done...
[02:59] <Jazzva> asac ^
[03:00] <asac> yes
[03:00] <asac> good
[03:00] <asac> let me pull yours, give a short test ... then plumber the release
[03:00] <Jazzva> I saw the difference now :)...
[03:01] <asac> right ;)
[03:02] <Jazzva> Smoke time... brb
[03:13] <Ubulette> lo
[03:13] <Jazzva> back
[03:13] <Jazzva> Hello...
[03:16] <asac> Jazzva: ok
[03:17] <asac> Jazzva: can you please test if latest bzr *just* works for you ... e.g. please reset the pfs. config so it points to my people.ubuntu.com account
[03:17] <asac> ... which is the one we will use for beta
[03:17] <asac> e.g. the default shipped with ubufox should be fine ...
[03:17] <Jazzva> asac: Sure...
[03:18] <asac> its now 0.4~beta1
[03:18] <asac> i already have a .deb here as well
[03:18] <asac> maybe test that one instead of the .xpi
[03:19] <Jazzva> Ok, just tell me where can I download it...
[03:19] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/ubufox_0.4~beta1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[03:19] <Jazzva> The one branch that is not main? :)
[03:19] <Jazzva> Oh, ok :)
[03:19] <asac> yes the other branch is the packaging ... haven't pushed the last revision (which is just changelog) though.
[03:20] <Jazzva> Ok, testing :)
[03:21] <asac> Jazzva: i have testpages setup there as well
[03:21] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/test/
[03:21] <asac> Jazzva: uninstall the .xpi first
[03:25] <Jazzva> Hmm, we don't have the "Don't install plugin for this media" button?
[03:25] <asac> yes
[03:25] <asac> that will be added soon :)
[03:25] <Jazzva> Ok :)
[03:25] <asac> its not perfect but you can press cancel
[03:26] <asac> and will get to next plugin
[03:26] <asac> Jazzva: can you give me a screenshot of gnome-app-install that opens if you press Get-Ubuntu addons ?
[03:26] <Jazzva> If I want to remove the flashplugin in mozilla do you need to remove it from every system that uses the same profile dir?
[03:26] <asac> i have screens for the rest (for the announcement)
[03:27] <asac> if they share profile then yes
[03:27] <Jazzva> Sure, just to turn off compiz :)... I can't get window border in screenshot when it's turned on...
[03:29] <asac> Jazzva: so does it work for you as well?
[03:30] <Jazzva> What? Get addons?
[03:31] <Jazzva> BTW, which theme do you want me to use for screenshot? Ubuntu Human?
[03:33] <asac> yes please
[03:33] <asac> human
[03:33] <asac> Jazzva: yes ... get addons
[03:33] <asac> i have screens for the plugin finder and our addons dialog
[03:33] <asac> i want screen from the gnome-app-install with extensions
[03:33] <Jazzva> Addons working...
[03:33] <Jazzva> Just to change theme...
[03:40] <Jazzva> asac: This good? http://jazzva.googlepages.com/gai.png
[03:40] <asac> hmm
[03:41] <asac> you don't have a gutsy install :)
[03:41] <Jazzva> Not reall...
[03:41] <Jazzva> really
[03:41] <asac> is good enough ... though the theme is not applied in window ;)
[03:41] <asac> thanks
[03:41] <Jazzva> Well, it is possibel to use my theme as root theme
[03:41] <asac> will copy that over
[03:41] <Jazzva> and then to link that in chroot :)
[03:41] <Jazzva> *possible
[03:42] <asac> oh i see that my screenshots are not made with human theme anyway
[03:42] <asac> so nevermind :)
[03:42] <Jazzva> Lol... Ok :)
[03:43] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/screens/
[03:43] <asac> there are the screens
[03:43] <asac> i already know the first comment ... why is it named "Get Ubuntu Addons" ... and not "Get Ubuntu Extensions"
[03:44] <asac> Jazzva: is that string already localized?
[03:44] <asac> aeh ... localizable (in dtd or properties) ?
[03:44] <Jazzva> Yes
[03:44] <Jazzva> I think I saw it
[03:46] <Jazzva> Hmm, will ubufox come with default firefox?
[03:46] <asac> it will be installed by default
[03:46] <Jazzva> That's cool :D...
[03:46] <asac> its in main and on cd
[03:46] <asac> and is installed by default
[03:46] <Jazzva> It will be easier for users to find plugins :)...
[03:47] <asac> people can disable or uninstall if they want pristine firefox
[03:47] <asac> thats the idea :)
[03:47] <Jazzva> And I won't need to answer to questions "Hey, what do I need to get to watch youtube?" :D
[03:47] <asac> here the spec that this implements:
[03:47] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxDistroAddonSpec
[03:48] <Jazzva> BTW, just checked, there's the "Get Ubuntu Addons" string in ubufox.properties
[03:48] <asac> question is if its used :)
[03:48] <asac> i think its hard-coded in .xul ... but not sure
[03:48] <Jazzva> Oh... lemme check
[03:49] <Jazzva> Hardcoded...
[03:49] <Jazzva> To replace it with &...;
[03:49] <Jazzva> ?
[03:49] <asac> yes ... but it needs to be addeed to .dtd then too
[03:50] <asac> maybe try the trivial way ... and next test how it works if you replace .dtd value with the .properties chrome:// path
[03:50] <Jazzva> Does it need to have same key.id as in .properties?
[03:50] <asac> both should work
[03:50] <asac> it needs and entity id defined in .dtd
[03:50] <asac> but as explained yesterady you can make dtd use the .properties value
[03:50] <Jazzva> Ok...
[03:51] <asac> ok ubuntu branch is now pushed too
[03:52] <asac> oh ... in a minute as it appears
[03:52] <Jazzva> Ok... I'll see to edit this string now
[03:53] <Jazzva> Hmm, it seems like it uses already the strings from ubufox.properties
[03:53] <Jazzva> It's defined with <stringbundle> tag
[03:53] <asac> hmm
[03:53] <asac> then try
[03:53] <asac> but i think you still need dtd
[03:53] <asac> (not sure) ... as i hate strings/localizations ;)
[03:54] <Jazzva> Ok, I'll try...
[03:54] <Jazzva> "&key.id;"?
[03:54] <Jazzva> That way :)?
[03:54] <asac> yes
[04:01] <Jazzva> Yes, I needed to define it in .dtd
[04:01] <Jazzva> Can I remove it from .properites, since that's the only place it's used?
[04:01] <Jazzva> that=in ubuntuAddonsOverlay.xul
[04:01] <Jazzva> asac ^
[04:03] <asac> yes ... if its never needed in javascript you can just drop it from properties and move it to .dtd
[04:03] <Jazzva> Cool... I'll just check to make sure that it's only used in xul
[04:06] <asac> 0.4~beta1-0ubuntu1 is uploaded to ubuntu
[04:06] <asac> lets party ;)
[04:06] <Jazzva> ...like it's 1999...
[04:06] <asac> Jazzva: please work on top of version bump
[04:06] <Jazzva> I am
[04:06] <asac> e.g. i think its 38
[04:06] <Jazzva> That one...
[04:07] <asac> it almost certainly is only used in xul
[04:07] <Jazzva> I checked with grep, that's the only spot...
[04:15] <Jazzva> asac: Pushed the new revision...
[04:15] <asac> oh
[04:16] <asac> ok ;)
[04:29] <Ubulette> Jazzva, asac, can I see your screenshots ?
[04:29] <Jazzva> for ubufox? :)
[04:30] <asac> sure
[04:30] <Jazzva> Or on desktop?
[04:30] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/screens/
[04:30] <asac> Ubulette: ^^
[04:33] <Ubulette> looks nice :)
[04:33] <Jazzva> Wee :D
[04:33] <Ubulette> would be nice to be able to put priorities to plugins
[04:34] <Ubulette> ie change order like xine vs totem, gnash vs adobe, etc
[04:34] <Jazzva> Oh... Sounds good.
[04:34] <Jazzva> :)
[04:34] <Jazzva> But I'm not sure how asac implemented the plugin-finder...
[04:35] <Jazzva> I think they're searched in gnome-app-install...
[04:35] <Jazzva> Or something...
[04:35] <asac> Ubulette: no its a db
[04:35] <asac> Jazzva: ^^
[04:35] <asac> not by gnome-app-install
[04:35] <asac> we can add those features ... at best lets open bugs against ubufox project to keep track of potential improvements
[04:36] <Jazzva> :)
[04:36] <Ubulette> does it work with FF3 ?
[04:36] <Ubulette> (I'm no longer using FF2 anywhere...)
[04:41] <Ubulette> would be nice to fix ubufox icon too.. it's heavily pixelized
[04:43] <asac> welcome back
[04:43] <gnomefreak> asac: hi
[04:43] <asac> (wherever you have been) :)
[04:43] <gnomefreak> not here long
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:43] <asac> yeah ... what is going on?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> hospital
[04:43] <asac> you?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> looks like ill be going back tonight
[04:43] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:43] <gnomefreak> pancreantitus(sp)
[04:43] <asac> an accident?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> nope my pancrese(sp) is swollen
[04:44] <asac> ouch
[04:44] <gnomefreak> causes sone nasty pain
[04:44] <asac> so you get intra-venous water ... or what do they do?
[04:44] <asac> or will they do a surgeory?
[04:45] <asac> gnomefreak: i understand that it causes nasty pain ... i don't envy you
[04:45] <gnomefreak> liquid diet(intra-venous water and some other things like beef broth and vcrap)
[04:46] <gnomefreak> asac: there isnt much they can do about it except help me with the pain and eating
[04:46] <asac> and doesn't the hospital allow you to take your notebook with you?
[04:46] <asac> ... otherwise you probably die of bordomness
[04:46] <gnomefreak> when i get home (north carolina) i have appt with my doctor for more info on how to handle this
[04:46] <gnomefreak> asac: this one doesnt let me bring anything including my insulin pump
[04:47] <asac> :(
[04:47] <Jazzva> Phone... Hello, gnomefreak...
[04:47] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: hi
[04:47] <asac> ok ... get better soon ... and change the way you eat/drink (if its because of that)
[04:47] <asac> gnomefreak: just one short question: is the iceape branch good?
[04:47] <gnomefreak> yeah i found out
[04:48] <gnomefreak> asac: yes should be set to go
[04:48] <Jazzva> Get well and come back...
[04:48] <gnomefreak> asac: i uploaded the source to gnoimefreak.youmortals.com
[04:48] <asac> gnomefreak: i was a bit unsure about some changes ... but now that you are in hospital i will just build/test and then upload i guess
[04:48] <asac> yes ... i already have it iirc
[04:48] <gnomefreak> asac: ok what were you unsure of?
[04:48] <asac> its been a few days ... let me see if i can get that back in my brain
[04:49] <gnomefreak> iirc all i did was add a patch and dropped one or 2
[04:49] <asac> yeah ... let me check a minute
[04:49] <gnomefreak> wtf did i miss
[04:50] <gnomefreak> nautilus tells you how many things are in each dir :(
[04:50] <Jazzva> Ubulette: So far, ubufox is not working with gran paradiso... I tried manually changing allowed versions to get it installed in GP and it works... I only can't get rid of "Restart Gran Paradiso" button in Addons now :)
[04:51] <Ubulette> Jazzva, everything else is okay ?
[04:51] <Jazzva> Checking...
[04:51] <asac> Jazzva: restart?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> update-manager is borke
[04:51] <gnomefreak> d
[04:51] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, hi, we missed you
[04:51] <gnomefreak> hi Ubulette :)
[04:51] <Jazzva> asac: restarted... it's still there :/
[04:51] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe to give you good news: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/screens/
[04:52] <asac> :)
[04:52] <asac> gnomefreak: Ubulette fixed the -trunk for us
[04:52] <asac> and we have paradiso now ;)
[04:52] <gnomefreak> asac: iceape changelog http://pastebin.mozilla.org/185153
[04:52] <gnomefreak> ty Ubulette :)
[04:52] <Ubulette> np
[04:53] <gnomefreak> oh i like
[04:54] <gnomefreak> i dont remember it having such a nice interface to it (it being plugin-finder
[04:55] <gnomefreak> is mozillateam gran-paradiso branch updated?
[04:55] <asac> gnomefreak: yes
[04:55] <asac> -trunk is still in ubulettes branch iirc
[04:55] <asac> i wanted to push it but forgot (shame on me)
[04:57] <gnomefreak> fixing update-notifier atm than i have to go take meds and try to eat something if i make it back here today ill grab it (if i get a branch address) and ill merge it or atleast try
[04:57] <Ubulette> none are uptodate. I've ported the java fix in gp too
[04:57] <gnomefreak> java is broken?
[04:57] <Ubulette> plugin crash
[04:57] <Ubulette> fixed
[04:58] <Ubulette> :)
[04:58] <gnomefreak> well hopfully after sunday ill be back to myself again. I drive home on sunday if i feel good enough to
[04:59] <Ubulette> hmm, a user in the forum told me font improved font rendering (ie freetype 2.3.x turner patches) is no longer working in FF3
[04:59] <Ubulette> http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotbk4.png
[05:00] <Ubulette> "Left is Gran Paradiso, right is firefox2"
[05:01] <Jazzva> Hmm, so far, it can launche gnome-app-install, it can find plugins for media, but the installation is not working and there's Restart Gran Paradiso button in Addons :/... that's for GranParadiso in Gutsy chroot...
[05:01] <Jazzva> *launch
[05:01] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm looks same to me
[05:02] <Jazzva> It's not, look at the address bars
[05:02] <Jazzva> Right is GP, left is FF2... (I think)
[05:02] <Ubulette> right has better antialiasing
[05:02] <Ubulette> the user said "Left is Gran Paradiso, right is firefox2"
[05:03] <Jazzva> I noticed that in GP... When you rollover address bar it changes...
[05:03] <Ubulette> yep, often at dots
[05:03] <Jazzva> for example, in this imageshack link, the "y." in "my.php" changes on rollover
[05:03] <Ubulette> annoying
[05:03] <gnomefreak> other than one screenshot looking like its a bit bigger (more address than other) i dont see anything
[05:04] <Ubulette> the text in the page looks very different on my screen
[05:04] <gnomefreak> not to me here
[05:04] <gnomefreak> let me try something
[05:05] <gnomefreak> nope cant change the sixe either
[05:05] <gnomefreak> size*-
[05:05] <Jazzva> Hmm, maybe the text on the right screen is more anti-aliased...
[05:05] <Jazzva> It looks more blurry too :/
[05:05] <gnomefreak> text on left lookks slightly bigger but its hard to tell.
[05:06] <gnomefreak> trunk has always had bigger font than our finals. but i dont see this as a problem.
[05:06] <gnomefreak> asac: btw are we keeping gp in repos after release
[05:07] <asac> i have to figure that out with release team
[05:07] <gnomefreak> i was asked before i went to hospital last week
[05:07] <asac> but i hope we can provide updates through SRU until we finall get 3.0 in gutsy+1
[05:07] <Jazzva> Ok, launchtime... Then I have to go out... See you in the evening or so... I'll have to study a bit when I come back.
[05:07] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Get well :)...
[05:07] <asac> Jazzva: cu
[05:08] <gnomefreak> asac: ok, i only see one problem with pulling it and firefox may have issues after gp is no longer in repos (wont know til it happens though)
[05:08] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: ty and have a good day
[05:08] <asac> gnomefreak: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/iceape.diff
[05:08] <Ubulette> most of the posts in the gutsy's forum are about I hate defaults, fonts, colors or my compiz is broken, or change this app as I hate it
[05:08] <asac> thats the diff you have against debian
[05:09] <asac> 1. why did you drop debian/patches/80_system_libs.dpatch ?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> i didnt
[05:09] <asac> or did you forget to add that to repo?
[05:09] <asac> ok then you forgot to check in
[05:09] <asac> its in 00list
[05:09] <asac> but not in branch
[05:09] <gnomefreak> it didnt apply i looked for it and poof it told me it was gone so i added it back and had no way to post it to branch (it wouldnt allow me)(
[05:10] <asac> huh?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> it wouldnt allow me to push the patch to branch
[05:10] <asac> bzr add debian/patches/80_system... ?
[05:10] <asac> then commit ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> that could be why
[05:11] <asac> ok i will add it and push all to mt branch, ok?
[05:11] <asac> (do we have an mt branch?)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> not even sure whats there atm but i do remember that patch we needed and it wouldnt work for me
[05:11] <gnomefreak> asac: we should have one and yes that would be great
[05:11] <asac> k will try
[05:11] <gnomefreak> looking
[05:12] <gnomefreak> https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[05:12] <gnomefreak> theres also the debian one but not sure what we are gonna update to that.
[05:13] <gnomefreak> ok now im stepping away cu soon
[05:17] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, ++, take care
[05:21] <asac> gnomefreak: come back soon!
[05:21] <asac> (cured of course)
[05:21] <asac> and drink loads of water ;)
[05:22] <asac> gnomefreak: i will replace the debian branch by automatic vcs import
[05:25] <Ubulette> hmm, too bad linux is not able to use this http://media.labs.live.com/photosynth/NASA/default.htm
[05:33] <asac> well the banner says it all :)
[05:40] <Ubulette> yep
[05:53] <asac> Ubulette: sorry my brain is pretty busted ... you had a swfdec package, right?
[05:53] <asac> nevermind
[05:53] <asac> i remember now ;)
[05:53] <asac> it was not you
[05:54] <Ubulette> ...
[06:42] <Ubulette> asac, you're done with your specs ?
[06:44] <asac> more or less ... but fighting another fire ;)
[06:44] <asac> tomorrow i will catch up with things i dropped
[06:55] <asac> wojtekka: please whine in public ;)
[06:55] <asac> bug 101857
[06:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 101857 in network-manager "WPA doesn't work with NetworkManager using the bcm43xx driver (works with wpa_supplicant)" [Unknown,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/101857
[06:55] <wojtekka> okay, here I go.
[06:55] <asac> could you verify that it works with gutsy nm?
[06:56] <asac> Ubulette: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.platforms.linux/browse_thread/thread/4b0c5de14d8dadb9/281c3a0fccbd91bd#281c3a0fccbd91bd
[06:57] <wojtekka> asac: I haven't upgraded to gutsy yet, because I couldn't test the fix in feisty. unless there's a way to downgrade ubuntu, I'd like to test the patch on my laptop first.
[06:59] <Ubulette> asac, hmm, I'll have a look
[06:59] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 312105
[06:59] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 312105 in GFX: Thebes "Crash (cairo assertion) on various pages with debug build [@ cairo_ft_unscaled_font_set_scale]  [@ cairo_xlib_surface_set_drawable]  [@ _moz_cairo_ft_scaled_font_unlock_face] " [Critical,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312105
[07:00] <wojtekka> asac: anyway, I'd appreciate if someone told me how to properly build a package with custom patches, because when I tried to do it on my own, I ended up with Network Manager that wasn't able to connect using WPA at all. not even with hex passphrase that worked before.
[07:02] <Ubulette> cannot reproduce 312105, and it's damn old Gecko/20051009 Firefox/1.6a1
[07:02] <asac> Ubulette: is that crash the one we see assertion crashes for when using system-cairo?
[07:02] <asac> or is that unrelated?
[07:03] <asac> wojtekka: what makes you believe then that the patch fixes it for you?
[07:04] <Ubulette> asac, unrelated. cairo-hash vs cairo-ft-font.c
[07:04] <asac> ok thanks
[07:07] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 390898
[07:07] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 390898 in GFX: Thebes "Crash when dragging selection [@ fbFetchPixel_a8r8g8b8] " [Critical,Reopened]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390898
[07:07] <Ubulette> cannot reproduce but I'm on 32bit.
[07:08] <wojtekka> asac: just a wild guess based on the fact that the code has been compiled without WORDS_BIGENDIAN define on my big-endian system and that there's WORDS_BIGENDIAN missing in config.h.in.
[07:10] <asac> Ubulette: ok i will talk to vlad how we can help
[07:10] <wojtekka> asac: and I've compared the endianness patch for 0.6.4 from ubuntu package with upstream 0.6.5.
[07:11] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 390786
[07:11] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 390786 in GFX: Thebes "Lots of graphic corruption in Minefield Linux (since the 8/01 nightly)" [Major,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390786
[07:11] <Ubulette> cannot reproduce /w gp a7
[07:11] <asac> and trunk?
[07:12] <asac> its been introduced since 8/01
[07:12] <asac> i think a7 was before
[07:13] <Ubulette> a7 was 2007-Aug-03 17:53:58
[07:13] <asac> maybe they had a minibranch?
[07:13] <asac> to stabilize things?
[07:13] <asac> or even forked off MOZILLA_1_9_BRANCH already?
[07:17] <asac> Ubulette: it might be totally true that they tagged a week before ... sent out beta bits to community and then released the same for a7
[07:17] <asac> wojtekka: do you have gutsy?
[07:17] <asac> wojtekka: would be great if you could verify first if all works as expected in gutsy now
[07:18] <asac> we have 0.6.5 there
[07:18] <Ubulette> asac, tested with trunk too, cannot reproduce
[07:19] <Ubulette> but print previous is slow as hell, and almost freeze the whole thing
[07:19] <asac> hmm would be interesting to see if upstream upstream binaries have that for us
[07:19] <Ubulette> s/previous/preview/
[07:19] <asac> because we use at least some system libs that they don't use i gues
[07:19] <Ubulette> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libunixprintplugin.so [libxpcom_core.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[07:19] <asac> Ubulette: where do you have that from?
[07:20] <Ubulette> strange it's /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:20] <Ubulette> trunk
[07:20] <asac> right
[07:20] <Ubulette> using print preview
[07:20] <asac> ok so we indeed need this previously neglected plugin
[07:21] <Ubulette> I have it
[07:22] <Ubulette> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18552 2007-08-15 19:08 /usr/lib/firefox-trunk/plugins/libnullplugin.so
[07:23] <Ubulette> but I don't have libxpcom_core.so for GP and trunk, only for FF2
[07:23] <wojtekka> asac: I'd love to, but then I won't be able to check the update for feisty. that's why I want to manually build the fixed package on feisty first.
[07:23] <Ubulette> maybe I've moved it in -dev by mistake
[07:24] <asac> Ubulette: i remember that we talked about libunixprintplugin.so not being build before
[07:24] <asac> Ubulette: do we have --enable-postscript?
[07:24] <asac> and --disable-xprint?
[07:25] <Ubulette> hmm, we only have build-tree/mozilla/xpcom/build/libxpcom_core.a  no .so
[07:25] <asac> wojtekka: ok if you have no problem with doing some builds you should try to grab sources for wpasupplicant and network-manager from gutsy and build those
[07:26] <Ubulette> asac, we have both --disable-xprint and --enable-postscript
[07:26] <asac> Ubulette: huh so libxpcom doesn't exist ... ah
[07:26] <asac> Ubulette: i think the main reason is that we don't have libunixplugin.so
[07:26] <asac> + that paradiso looks in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins directory (maybe because of this?)
[07:26] <asac> as in old firefox there is a libxpcom_core.so
[07:27] <asac> which doesn't exist in 3.0 anymore
[07:27] <asac> so loading the old plugin fails
[07:27] <asac> more or less related to what totem made choke
[07:27] <Ubulette> print preview puts Xorg over the roof
[07:28] <Ubulette> 100% cpu on my dual core 2
[07:28] <asac> does it work in the end?
[07:28] <asac> does it loop on 2 cores?
[07:28] <Ubulette> whenever I do anything in the preview
[07:28] <wojtekka> asac: so... how can I do that? change deb-src to gutsy, apt-get source network-manager, apt-get source wpa_supplicant and then dpkg-buildpackage?
[07:29] <Ubulette> it previews but xorg being busy, wm is not very responsive
[07:29] <Ubulette> both trunk and gp
[07:29] <Ubulette> closing the preview fixes it
[07:32] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 390787
[07:32] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 390787 in GFX: Thebes "Many fonts and widgets do not display" [Blocker,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390787
[07:33] <Ubulette> cannot reproduce
[07:34] <Ubulette> back to libunixplugin.so, I don't understand why it looks in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[07:36] <Ubulette> GP doesn't complain
[07:36] <Ubulette> but still bothers Xorg
[07:37] <asac> Ubulette: do we have libunixprintplugin.so ?
[07:37] <asac> i doubt we have
[07:38] <Ubulette> oh, not in gp
[07:38] <Ubulette> and trunk is a link, that's why
[07:38] <Ubulette> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   46 2007-08-15 19:13 /usr/lib/firefox-trunk/plugins/libunixprintplugin.so -> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libunixprintplugin.so
[07:39] <Ubulette> I've made it manually at some point
[07:40] <Ubulette> so it's my mistake
[07:40] <Ubulette> yet it still sucks my cpu
[07:41] <asac> does it work when you remove that link?
[07:42] <Ubulette> preview always works
[07:46] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 379430
[07:46] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 379430 in GFX "Print preview hangs X" [Critical,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379430
[07:58] <asac> Ubulette: do you have profiling infrastructure in place so we see where the cycles end up in?
[07:58] <Ubulette> no
[07:58] <asac> ok
[07:59] <asac> i will try on monday
[08:20] <kompozer> hi
[08:21] <kompozer> asac: are you there?
[08:23] <asac> well would like a break ... but i am more or less here
[08:23] <asac> so your text will be processed ... at some point
[08:23] <kompozer> :)
[08:25] <kompozer> I've had problems with your aviary patches. In short: they don't solve the two problems ('extensions' dir and the warning when installing an extension, not a big deal anyway) and I can't uninstall any langpack any more
[08:25] <kompozer> with the patch I've got from Motohiko at least the extension manager is working in KompoZer
[08:26] <kompozer> so I wondered if you wouldn't mind that I keep my own patch, since it's been extensively tested
[08:28] <kompozer> if you want to test the binary yourself: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/kompozer/kompozer-0.7.10rc5-gcc4.0.3-i486.tgz?use_mirror=heanet
[08:38] <Ubulette> asac, libunixprintplugin is now a "demo" plugin, it's built in build-tree/mozilla/modules/plugin/samples/unixprinting/libunixprintplugin.so but is no longer installed
[08:47] <asac> ok
[08:47] <asac> then drop link and done
[08:47] <asac> preview is known upstream issue ... so let it go ;)
[08:49] <asac> kompozer: i am really out of 1.7 branch ;)
[08:49] <asac> all i can say is that the patch worked for ffox and tbird
[08:49] <asac> i remember it being particular picky though about what is installed where
[08:50] <kompozer> I think Nvu/KompoZer is particular since it's been heavily patched since the very beginning
[08:50] <kompozer> anyway, if you don't mind I'll just stick with Motohiko's patch :)
[08:51] <asac> as i said i am out of it ...
[08:51] <asac> so i don't care what you do
[08:51] <kompozer> ok
[08:51] <asac> if you want assistance then i can help ... but this thing goes in without a good feeling in my guts ;)
[08:52] <kompozer> speaking of assistance, I got a weird problem with 'make install'
[08:53] <kompozer> 'make' and 'make install' don't produce the same binary. The application icon is different, some resources are different, too (e.g. the 'tip of the day' RDF entries)
[08:53] <kompozer> if you have any idea of what's going on, it would be a great help
[08:58] <asac> well
[08:58] <asac> make install is inheritantly borken for mozilla
[08:58] <asac> because they "just don't care/use it"
[08:58] <asac> they landed a fix on trunk now ... that should tackle this for real
[08:58] <asac> anyway ... you probably need patches or have to manually copy things to right place
[08:58] <kompozer> I think I'll go for the second option then
[08:59] <kompozer> copy things with the 'rules' file and setting the perms with dh_fixperms should do the job?
[08:59] <kompozer> s/copy/copying/
[09:00] <doko> nsFileSpecImpl::Create(nsISupports*, nsID const&, void**)
[09:00] <doko> where is this defined?
[09:03] <Ubulette> xpcom/obsolete/nsFileSpecImpl.cpp ?
[09:07] <doko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/131285
[09:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131285 in firefox "FTBFS on lpia" [High,Confirmed] 
[09:12] <Ubulette> ???
[09:12] <Ubulette> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/firefox/+builds?build_state=all
[09:14] <Ubulette> ubuntu2 succeeded
[09:15] <Ubulette> doko
[09:15] <doko> Ubulette: look at the previous build ...
[09:16] <Ubulette> yes but it's fixed, right ?
[09:16] <doko> no
[09:16] <Ubulette> buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.firefox_2.0.0.6%2B2-0ubuntu2_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[09:16] <Ubulette> buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-lpia.firefox_2.0.0.6%2B2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:19] <doko> Ubulette: if you want to help, please read the report, plus the changelog to see what was done.
[09:23] <Ubulette> I've read both build logs and commit logs, but sorry for trying to answer your questions. feel free to ignore me.
[11:45] <Jazzva> Evening...
[11:57] <asac> Jazzva: hi
[11:58] <Jazzva> Hello, asac. Any more stuff to do :)? If not, I'll take a look at bugs or something...
[12:00] <asac> yeah ... i think after the development rush we did we can take a breath :)
[12:00] <asac> Jazzva: otoh we would wnat to beautify the plugin finder
[12:00] <asac> Jazzva: first thing: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/screens/pfs1.png
[12:00] <asac> the icson should be aligned to the right
[12:00] <asac> maybe using a table instead of just vbox with hboxes
[12:01] <asac> second:
[12:01] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/pfs/screens/pfs2.png
[12:01] <asac> one wizard page for each content type is the idea
[12:01] <asac> third: adding the "no plugin for this media" choice
[12:01] <asac> :)
[12:01] <Jazzva> Hmm, I thought that it was the other way ... that this was the general idea, to have one page...
[12:02] <asac> it was the idea before because you won't ahve a choice
[12:02] <asac> now that we have a choice its too squashed to put it on one page
[12:02] <asac> i talked to upstream about that
[12:02] <Jazzva> Hmm, I might take a look at that and see what I can do :).. Sounds fun (and challenging, as I have done very little JS code)
[12:02] <asac> they want multi-pages
[12:02] <asac> its challenging for you
[12:02] <asac> i guess you should start with none option to get used to the code a big
[12:02] <asac> bit
[12:02] <Jazzva> Yep... :)
[12:03] <Jazzva> Can you test ubufox in GP?
[12:03] <asac> is it broken?
[12:04] <Jazzva> Well, somewhat broken... The "Restart Gran Paradiso" didn't want to dissapear (but that can also be bug in FF *unsure*). Also, I think that the plugin-finder didn't work...
[12:04] <Jazzva> No... it did work :)
[12:05] <Jazzva> But the plugins couldn't  install
[12:05] <Jazzva> The Synaptic didn't start and stuff...
[12:06] <Jazzva> Huh? :)
[12:06] <asac> nevermind
[12:06] <asac> was ment for query
[12:06] <doko> he's tired ... =)
[12:07] <Jazzva> Ok... :)
[12:12] <asac> Jazzva: ok
[12:12] <asac> i have no idea today ... the plugins are not yet available for granparadiso ... so its nothing to hurry atm
[12:13] <Jazzva> Ok, no problem...
[12:14] <asac> ok finished for today ... have to get some rest now ;)
[12:14] <asac> g'night
[12:14] <Jazzva> 'night...
[12:14] <asac> @time berlin
[12:14] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: August 17 2007, 00:14:29 - Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team
[12:14] <Jazzva> I'll try to add the "none" option
[12:14] <asac> for what?
[12:15] <Jazzva> plugins :)
[12:15] <Jazzva> "Don't install plugin for this media type"
[12:15] <Jazzva> That one...
[12:15] <asac> ah :)
[12:15] <asac> cool
[12:15] <asac> i think it should just wait ... you just have call toggleBlaBlaBla with -1 or something :)
[12:15] <asac> so the Next button gets disabled when its selected
[12:16] <asac> but you will see what is called when you click the other radios ;)
[12:16] <Jazzva> Mmmhm.. Ok :)
[12:29] <Ubulette> asac, I've modified nspr to get rid of cdbs completely, no more quilt includes either