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foxbuntusuperm1, hows it going with the control centre?03:50
superm1it's getting very very close03:50
foxbuntuanything you want help with on it?03:51
superm1well there is one big function left to write03:51
superm1but you need a pretty in depth understanding of how everything is working in it i think to write it03:51
superm1well 2 functions, one i'm not sure how to do properly and that big one03:52
foxbuntuah03:56
foxbuntuso my code retarded ass would be as helpful ass tits on a bore03:57
OpenMediasuperm1: Finally getting back to some sanity here. Had to clear an order backlog. Might manage some testing this weekend.04:00
OpenMediasuperm1: any ETA on an alpha 4 or shall I continue with 3 for now04:00
superm1OpenMedia, well we need the site back before alpha 4 can be done04:00
superm1there will be two big changes to alpha 404:01
superm1will be ran as normal user (not mythtv)04:01
superm1and the control centre will be done04:01
superm1i'm getting really really close on the control centre04:01
superm1in an effort to be done with it, i might end up disabling some functionality and defering it04:02
OpenMediasuperm1: ok. I'll play with alpha 3 for now then. myPVR makes some assumptions about it running as the mythtv user. Will that still be possible04:03
superm1it will still be possible, but just not defaulted04:03
superm1because this way, the user can make changes to the system04:03
superm1since they have sudo priv.04:04
OpenMediaYeah.. Ideally I don't want users to make changes to the system.. ;)04:04
jamsheh04:04
superm1well it should just be a matter of modifying the autologin gdm-cdd.conf to make it the mythtv user rather than the normal user selected04:05
superm1but i need to take a break from this, i've been at it for most the day.  i'll be back later on04:07
foxbuntusuperm1, I just sent a note to my DC contact to see if I can get a donantion of rack space04:12
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OpenMediasuperm1: No worries. Look after yourself.04:15
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foxxbuntusuperm1, you there?05:30
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superm1foxbuntu___, i'm back06:54
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superm1keescook, don't forget to get mythtv/mythplugins in before freeze time tomorrow :)11:21
DaveMorrissuperm1: goto bed :P11:30
superm1hehe11:31
superm1i will i will11:31
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cornell-wGood morning...  DaveMorris, are you here?01:16
troy_sfoxbuntu: So I'll try hammering out a revision based on our discussion this weekend.01:40
troy_sfoxbuntu: Unfortunately, nothing before then.01:40
DaveMorrisat lunch atm01:50
cornell-wCool... If, and when, you care for an update on what I tried last night (not much, didn't have too much time), just say so.  My first crack at hooking up to the LVM failed :-(02:01
DaveMorriswhat went wrong?02:08
cornell-wWell... first, when I tried to end the install process, after installing the OS and before configuring myth, I couldn't get the machine to restart.  Ended up at a gnome login screen.  No clue where that came from.  Finally just turned it off.  When it came up, the X wouldn't start, couldn't find nvidia driver (right, the install failed to get it).  So in terminal I tried to apt-get install openssh-server.  The last of the output had 02:35
cornell-wGee... that was a lot, sorry about that ;-)02:35
DaveMorrisWhere you able to install ssh-server?02:36
cornell-wYes, it's in, and lvm2.02:37
DaveMorrisdoes X work?02:37
cornell-wSeems to, the mythbuntu desktop is up.  I saw the icons, and opened a terminal.02:38
DaveMorriscan you see all your files on the lvm2 mounted partition ?02:39
cornell-wNo lvm2 mounted partition.  Last I did was the pvscan that found nothing.  (didn't try partition or df or mount commands)02:40
DaveMorrisoh, you installed the lvm2 module02:40
cornell-wYEs02:41
DaveMorrisdoes lsmod show the lvm2 module loaded?02:41
cornell-w... and it works differently, before "lvm" resulted in the list of commands, now it results in a "sub-prompt" like "lvm >".02:41
cornell-wActually, the machine's not here, so best I can do is gather suggestions, clues and hints to use this evening.02:42
DaveMorrisyou can't ssh to it then :)02:42
cornell-wI assumed lvm2 was loaded when I used the lvm command.02:43
DaveMorrisit prob was02:43
cornell-wNo... my work closes that port, never got around to trying alternate port, my ISP got on me for having open ports with services running...  You're not going to believe this... they accused me of attacking someone...  it seems that three times, in a week, my address hit their machine, on port 80.  And they think that's an attack !02:44
DaveMorrisLOL02:44
cornell-wMy current problem...  ran pvscan, it found nothing.02:44
DaveMorrisstupid ISP they should realise the problem02:45
DaveMorrisI assume you mean vgscan02:45
lagare02:45
cornell-wI did encounter in my readings using pvcreate with uuid. but that was in context of swapping drives on a server, don't know if it applies, gonna check it out.02:45
DaveMorrislooking at the gentoo guide I sent you, they say to use 'vgchange -a y' to "Make any previously set up volume groups available"02:46
cornell-wNo...  p-something-scan.  although, when it failed I also tried vgscan and lvscan, also found nothing.02:46
cornell-w(the gentoo site you'd sent me was down this morning :-(  Is it up again? )02:47
DaveMorrisyep02:47
cornell-wmmm...   http://gentoo-wiki.com/Recovering_RAID_and_LVM still coming up "The requested URL could not be retrieved"  code 111, connection refused.02:48
DaveMorrisoh, I'm looking at this one http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml02:49
cornell-wMaybe they don't like me, or know that I'm not running gentoo ;-)02:49
cornell-wmmm  the section: Code Listing 2.2: Activating LVM?02:51
DaveMorrisyeah tbh it'll be a lot easier when you have access to the machine, superm1 can help if I'm not around since his in the states02:53
cornell-wLooks promising...02:53
DaveMorrisprob asleep now as he was awake in here only 3 hours ago02:53
cornell-wRight.02:53
cornell-wHey, he's a geek like the rest of us... who needs sleep02:53
cornell-w(says he who makes enough mistakes when well rested ;-) )02:54
cornell-wAnyway, thanks for the guidance, DaveMorris, hope to see you this evening, and if not... I'll tell you all about it tomorrow02:55
cornell-w(fore-warned is fore-armed) ;-)02:56
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DaveMorristo who?03:25
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AndyGraybealwhat kinda screen would you guys get?  i'm thinking about getting a regular wide-screen lcd for a computer to replace the tv... is that a stupid move?03:53
AndyGraybealit'll be a 22 inch with dmvi connector03:53
AndyGraybealor whatever the digital connector is called or something03:53
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cornell-wI use a regular 19" LCD instead of a tv, I'd like a 22" wide screen ;-)04:27
AndyGraybealcornell, awesome thank you04:27
AndyGraybealis there a need for some kind of dmvi connector or whatever its' called?04:28
AndyGraybealwhat video card do you have also?04:28
cornell-wComplain to mythbuhntu.org, of course ;-)04:28
cornell-wMy video card is nvidia.  I've also got cable out on my TV capture card, haven't even configured it yet.  I just use the normal vga port.  The bad news is I can't watch TV and see the desktop at the same time, as it's the same monitor.  But, so what, I can do what I need via SSH (assuming I know what Im doing).04:30
lagawon't the viewing angle on those TN panels be annoying?04:30
cornell-wNot that I've found, but I'm watching mine from the chair at my desk.  I guess if you've got it up against one wall, and have the whole family spread about the room, you might have difficulty.... however04:31
cornell-wIt's important to note that when one watches a crt TV, one doesn't sit far off of the center line, the further off center one is, the more the rectangle becomes a highly angled trapezoid, uncomfortable to watch.  I feel that the comfortable viewing angle is with the capabilities of a modern LCD .  IMHO, YMMV.04:33
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cornell-wwb, DaveMorris05:22
DaveMorristhanks05:38
DaveMorrishometime soon05:38
DaveMorristhe FTSE did worse than 1st appeared, the only reason its only down 211 pts is because one company is up 235!05:39
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auuurrrghdoes anyone know where the mythTV developer channel is?09:20
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keescooksuperm1: I'm a bit behind, but my SATA bus seems to have been okay now.  I'm building stuff now09:46
superm1keescook, good to hear the sata came back to life :).  I just wanted to make sure that UVF was beat, so didn't have to go through the hoops of doing a UVFe09:49
keescooksuperm1: I'm pretending it's a "end of the day" today.  I think I'm wrong, but since I lost a day of time to my @$!%ing SATA, I like to think I'm still before the cut-off.  ;)09:49
superm1haha.  i've always wondered if it was an artificial cut off, or if there was a hard limit put on the server that takes the dput's09:50
keescookthere's nothing "hard" but boy does one get in trouble.  :P09:51
keescooksuperm1: didn't you look into automatic security updates for mythbuntu?  what's the way to turn that on?  (someone else was asking me about it...)10:19
superm1keescook, automatic security updates as in what specifically?10:19
superm1there were weekly builds when we had a server that worked...10:20
keescookisn't there a bit to flip somewhere to make it happen?  I'll have to go research it10:20
keescookalso, I've uploaded mythtv, and noticed some "find" errors in mythplugins:10:20
keescookhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33986/10:20
keescookare those anything to worry about?10:21
superm1hm i didn't watch my build very closely - just checked to see if it was successful or not, so i'm not sure if i saw them as well, but i'd expect its because some behavior that changed in 0.20-fixes branch regarding what's included10:22
superm1i'll check10:22
keescookokay, thanks.10:22
keescookI up'd it anyway to get the upstream in for today.  at a glance, the .debs look okay10:26
superm1well it looks fine by dpkg -c10:26
superm1on the debs for mytharchive10:26
superm1and that find line is just for removing empty directories it looks like10:26
superm1if there's trouble in the build there is plenty of time to issue a fix, so no biggie10:28
superm1nothing has changed upstream in mytharchive in 2 months though, so if there was trouble we probably would have already seen it in the last builds this past few weeks10:29
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superm1Daviey, you here?12:03
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tgm4883would I see a benefit in running dual channel ram in my main mythbox?12:18
superm1probably not12:19
tgm4883ok12:19
tgm4883just wondering12:19
tgm4883planning on upgrading my main system to 2 GB12:20
superm1man what are you doing on it that you need that much?12:20
tgm4883i tell ya, running Compiz Fusion on 16 MB of ram is tough12:20
tgm4883VM's12:20
superm1ah12:20
superm1that'll do it12:20
tgm4883yep12:20
tgm4883it's either that or start running my VM's on real machines12:21
tgm4883which are way old12:21
tgm4883and slow12:21
superm1i bumped my laptop to a gig earlier this year for that reason, but the machine still runs like crap :)12:22
tgm4883cpu?12:22
tgm4883:( gutsy daily wont freezes in my VM12:23
superm1yea its only a 1.6 or 1.712:23
tgm4883upgradable?12:23
superm1not likely12:23
tgm4883what laptop?12:23
superm1some day i'll fix my frontend, and then i can get my desktop back in the room and do VMs on that again12:23
superm1its a thinkpad r50p12:24
superm1the proc may be upgradable, but not to anything i'd want to upgrade it to :)12:24
tgm4883ah12:25
tgm4883user guide isn't that helpful12:27
tgm4883dell's website lists complete dissassembly instructions12:28
superm1dell's?12:28
tgm4883yep12:28
superm1you mean IBM/Lenovo12:28
tgm4883?12:28
superm1on your machine, or mine?12:28
tgm4883ah12:28
tgm4883IBM user guide isn't that helpful12:29
tgm4883my machine (dell)12:29
superm1right12:29
tgm4883complete dissassembly instruction12:29
tgm4883wont tell you what you can replace a part with, but I can figure that out anyway12:29

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