[12:02] <benji> anyone know how i can listen to mms streams?
[12:02] <padavoine> champlooo: you can try to somehow get all of crontab's environment variables into your own shell, to kind of simulate a crontab environment but i don't know how. google it? sorry but
[12:02] <K3nt1> !sh
[12:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:02] <kanedaddy> sup?
[12:02] <praet> i think there is a gstreamer plugin for mms
[12:02] <benji> hm
[12:02] <BENN92647> Hey all
[12:02] <benji> k
[12:02] <K3nt1> ! .sh
[12:02] <benji> thx
[12:02] <MrObvious> benji: Nope.
[12:02] <champlooo> ok thank you anyway
[12:03] <ubuntu> i have a question about installing ubuntu on a partition, what does it mean about no root file system is defined and how do i correct this problem?
[12:03] <BENN92647> i have about 5 differnet versions to install IE6 in wine has someone else done this can you guide me so i dont wreck my wine installation?
[12:03] <scguy318> when doing the manual partitioning
[12:03] <padavoine> champlooo: welcome though i wasn't much help. maybe the ubuntu wiki has something?
[12:03] <scguy318> u have to pick wut partition will be /
[12:03] <praet> ubuntu: you have to set a partition for the root '/'
[12:03] <champlooo> ok I will search there
[12:03] <scguy318> BENN92647: tried IEs4Linux?
[12:03] <BENN92647> I need IE6 for work reasons
[12:04] <BENN92647> i have in unpacked and ready to go
[12:04] <padavoine> BENN92647: VirtualBox?
[12:04] <dcode> is there a way to tell NetworkManager to not change my resolv.conf when making a vpnc connection?
[12:04] <MrObvious> BENN92647: Does your browser not work with your work reasons/
[12:04] <praet> BENN92647: you could run a virtual windows install
[12:04] <ubuntu> do i name it something? or just   /
[12:04] <MrObvious> BENN92647: You might be able to mask your browser as IE if you run Opera.
[12:04] <brambi> ok
[12:04] <brambi> so
[12:04] <brambi> lets get this straight
[12:04] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative
[12:04] <brambi> it gets stuck here
[12:04] <BENN92647> -scguy318 i have it unpacked and ready to go
[12:04] <brambi> http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:04] <padavoine> ubuntu: partions don't have names, / is the mount pont, ie where it will appear on your filesystem
[12:04] <praet> ubuntu: i think there is a dropdown to select the mountpoint. so select '/'
[12:04] <K3nt1> how do i install a .sh file?
[12:04] <K3nt1> !bash
[12:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:04] <MrObvious> brambi: Please keep your text on one line. Don't use enter for punctuation.
[12:04] <scguy318> BENN92647: so, um, wuts the issue?
[12:05] <ir7> hello>
[12:05] <MrObvious> !hi
[12:05] <ir7> um
[12:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:05] <ir7> i have a question
[12:05] <MrObvious> !ask
[12:05] <BENN92647> -scguy318...how do install it?
[12:05] <jscinoz> Hey everyone, How can i change my keyboard layout not just in x, but in console aswell? i accidentally set it as US international, and want it to be plain US english.
[12:05] <ir7> about desktop
[12:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:05] <DShepherd> K3nt1, sudo chmod +x file.sh && sh ./file.sh
[12:05] <padavoine> BENN92647: the smoothest way to run ie is by virtualizing Windows XP
[12:05] <ir7> ok
[12:05] <ubuntu> k hold please
[12:05] <BENN92647> -padavoine i have wine already
[12:05] <padavoine> K3nt1: instal an sh file?
[12:05] <Fooller> If I use "tar -cvzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /" command to make a backup does it cover all the other users I have set up on my computer?
[12:06] <K3nt1> DShepherd: ok cool thanks
[12:06] <scguy318> BENN92647: assuming you have IEs4Linux downloaded already
[12:06] <praet> jscinoz: System > Preferences > Keyboard > Layout
[12:06] <DShepherd> K3nt1, no problem
[12:06] <scguy318> BENN92647: simple matter of running the script
[12:06] <jscinoz> cheers
[12:06] <BENN92647> -scguy318 Yes I do
[12:06] <ubuntu> oh i get it, when they said "/" i thought something was suppose to come after that , not just "/"
[12:06] <ir7> well i clicked on enable desktop effects but then my screen truned white for a moment and it just went back to the same state, and still said, " Endable desktop effects" can u tell me what the problem is
[12:06] <scguy318> just, like, run the script
[12:06] <padavoine> jscinoz: you can also monitor which layout it is by adding keyboard indicator to the panel
[12:06] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> Fooller yes should do..
[12:07] <ir7> well i clicked on enable desktop effects but then my screen truned white for a moment and it just went back to the same state, and still said, " Endable desktop effects" can u tell me what the problem is
[12:07] <BENN92647> -scguy318 that is where ia m lost...how do I run the script?
[12:07] <jscinoz> alright thanks
[12:07] <praet> ir7: the desktop effects crashed and probably restored your current desktop
[12:07] <scguy318> BENN92647 ./nameofwutevertheinstalleriscalled in terminal
[12:07] <ir7> why does it do that everytime?
[12:07] <ubuntu> thank you all, your always so helpful
[12:07] <scguy318> it should be chmod +x already me thinks
[12:07] <BENN92647> -scguy318 i have 5 different sites telling me 5 different ways to do it
[12:07] <padavoine> BENN92647: you might have to chmod +x ./nameofwhateveritscalled first
[12:07] <ir7> i jsut switched from xp and deleted all my other os's and files
[12:07] <praet> ir7: do you have a compatible video card ?
[12:07] <ir7> what are the compatible ones?
[12:07] <padavoine> BENN92647: yeah but if it's just one script it's all essentialy the same
[12:08] <scguy318> just run and follow the prompts
[12:08] <jscinoz> next question.. Im trying to get my finger print reader going, and i am attempting to install pam_bioapi, however ./configure fails with " security/_pam_macros.h" how can i fix this?
[12:08] <padavoine> BENN92647: just pick one of the sites at random :)
[12:08] <ubuntu> does beryl work for kubuntu?
[12:08] <padavoine> ubuntu: sure
[12:08] <marlon_> sure
[12:08] <d4rkmonkey> !beryl | ubuntu
[12:08] <ubotu> ubuntu: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:08] <DShepherd> ubuntu, it should. not sure how well though
[12:08] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:08] <padavoine> ubuntu: plus you can use another theme manager than emerald
[12:08] <ir7> so
[12:08] <DShepherd> ir7, what card do you have?
[12:09] <klick> hey all, i am trying to make it so whenever i type c it does the command clear in gnome-terminal, if i type alias c='clear' it works, but i have to do that each time i open a shell, i tried to put the same line in a file called .bash_alias (which i created) and it doesn;t work unless i invoke that bash file each time.. any ideas how to make gnome term auto have a set of aliases
[12:09] <ir7> how do i check?
[12:09] <padavoine> ubuntu: however the right channel for that is #ubuntu-effects
[12:09] <ir7> im very new to ubuntu
[12:09] <ir7> where do i go to check?
[12:09] <padavoine> klick: edit you r .bashrc
[12:09] <Pici> klick: drop it in .bashrc or .bash_profile
[12:09] <DShepherd> ir7, lspci | grep VGA
[12:09] <ubuntu> i want kubuntu but i cant get  beryl to work everytime i installed it, broke but i would like to get it going again
[12:09] <padavoine> klick: add alias c='clear
[12:09] <ir7> what does that mean?
[12:09] <padavoine> klick: but Control-L will clear the screen
[12:10] <AdemoS> quick question
[12:10] <AdemoS> when recording the ISO
[12:10] <AdemoS> is it okay to use
[12:10] <ir7> am i supposed to type that in a terminal?
[12:10] <AdemoS> DAO / SAO
[12:10] <DShepherd> ir7, oops.. yeah
[12:10] <padavoine> AdemoS: ?
[12:10] <BENN92647> -scguy318 it says no such file even though i see it
[12:10] <ir7> so what do i type again?
[12:10] <klick> ohh, so its bashrc not bash_alias what am I thinking its alias for.. weird.. thanks for the tips
[12:10] <DShepherd> ir7, lspci | grep VGA
[12:10] <padavoine> AdemoS: what app are you using? on which OS?
[12:11] <padavoine> klick: welcome
[12:11] <AdemoS> Alcohol 120% Windows XP
[12:11] <ir7> how do i make a vertical line?
[12:11] <K3nt1> DShepherd: hmm i get some kind of argument, directory doesnt exist? i cant really read it, its repeating rapidly
[12:11] <tracer903> ubuntu 7.04 will not mount my usb PNY 1GB drive or digital camera
[12:11] <BENN92647> hi idny!
[12:11] <BENN92647> LOL
[12:11] <ir7> or is that a whole other line?
[12:11] <praet> BENN92647: try typing the first few characters and hitting TAB to autocomplete.
[12:11] <BENN92647> hi indy!
[12:11] <BENN92647> -praet ok
[12:12] <dcode> are there any "advanced" properties for NetworkManager that can be accessed?
[12:12] <DShepherd> k31th, where is the file your trying to work with located?
[12:12] <praet> BENN92647: also if you are in the same dir as the file, you should type ./filename
[12:12] <padavoine> AdemoS: hmm... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:12] <DShepherd> ir7, I am not sure what you mean...
[12:12] <ir7> like
[12:12] <praet> dcode: try manual config
[12:12] <padavoine> AdemoS: i don't think that setting matters but just follow the official how-to and you're sure not to have any problems
[12:12] <BENN92647> oh
[12:12] <astro76> ir7, shift+\
[12:12] <ir7> how do i type what u typed?
[12:12] <ir7> o ok
[12:12] <jscinoz> next question.. Im trying to get my finger print reader going, and i am attempting to install pam_bioapi, however ./configure fails with " security/_pam_macros.h" how can i fix this?
[12:12] <praet> ir7: Shift+\ on keayboard
[12:13] <padavoine> jscinoz: what's the output excatly ?
[12:13] <praet> jscinoz: make sure the file exists
[12:13] <jscinoz> configure: error: cannot find required header: security/_pam_macros.h
[12:13] <BENN92647> -praet says no such directory
[12:13] <jscinoz> where can i get that file?
[12:13] <dcode> praet: where does it live?  I looked in /etc/NetworkManager, but that didn't seem to have any of my config stuff in it
[12:13] <padavoine> jscinoz: i think it's supposed to be part of the source
[12:14] <padavoine> jscinoz: check that it's there, try re-downloading the source, maybe from another mirror
[12:14] <padavoine> jscinoz: i mean if you don't find it obviously :)
[12:14] <ir7> there isnt a \ on my keyboard
[12:14] <BENN92647> ok so it wont go to my downloas folder and get it
[12:14] <padavoine> ir7: QWERTY?
[12:14] <jscinoz> alright thanks
[12:14] <padavoine> jscinoz: ;)
[12:14] <ir7> o wait
[12:14] <ir7> nvm
[12:14] <ir7> ther is
[12:14] <padavoine> ir7: lol
[12:15] <BENN92647> i'm tired LOL
[12:15] <BENN92647> Anyone can you tell me what the command line propmt to install ies4linux is?
[12:15] <Pici> !ies4linux | BENN92647
[12:15] <ubotu> BENN92647: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[12:15] <wubuntu> anybody used the compaq 3200 raid controller with ubuntu?
[12:16] <jimm> ok i have a question
[12:16] <tracer903> ubuntu 7.04 when I click on System>Removable Drives and Media; I get "Volume management not supported"
[12:16] <padavoine> BENN92647: from the official site http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation
[12:16] <scguy318> BENN92647 ./ies4linux
[12:16] <jscinoz> ah fixed it, i needed to install the package libpam0g-dev
[12:16] <scguy318> BENN92647: i assume you've already cd to the ies4linux foldre?
[12:16] <scguy318> *folder
[12:16] <padavoine> BENN92647: even better http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation:Ubuntu specific for Ubuntu
[12:16] <BENN92647> YAY! for ubotu the sexy bot!...ok but I am going to use it for work reasons only
[12:16] <ir7> i have a intel 82815 cgc chipset graphics controller re 04
[12:16] <praet> dcode: try the in GUI (left click systray icon and select manual config)
[12:16] <tracer903> !hald
[12:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <jimm> The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points couldnot be unmounted:  /media/local\040Disk
[12:17] <Dethlok> how do i make programs auto load on startup?  like gkrellm and beryl?
[12:17] <ir7>  i have a intel 82815 cgc chipset graphics controller re 04
[12:17] <ir7>  i have a intel 82815 cgc chipset graphics controller re 04
[12:17] <ir7>  i have a intel 82815 cgc chipset graphics controller re 04
[12:17] <Pici> !repeat | ir7
[12:17] <ubotu> ir7: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:17] <Pici> !startup | Dethlok
[12:17] <ubotu> Dethlok: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[12:18] <Dethlok> thank you ubotu!
[12:18] <jimm> The installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following mount points couldnot be unmounted:  /media/local\040Disk
[12:18] <[TK] D-Fender> hello all.  I'm somewhat new to Ubuntu and have 7.04 running on my laptop.  I jsut installed "kubuntu-desktop" via Synaptic and set KDM to start.  Only thing is that it launched Gnome following a reboot and I'm somewhat oblivious about where to go to change this.
[12:18] <akh|arazand> hey guy, one question how do I make x-chat connect automatically to a server and channel?
[12:18] <scguy318> jimm: sudo umount -a?
[12:18] <aaisen> Hello!  I've been having some problems with playing dvd's on ubuntu fiesty on my thinkpad t61.  DVDCSS isn't decrypting the disks properly.  Does anyone know what is going on?  The error is "libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB (0x000002a0)"
[12:18] <tracer903> ubuntu 7.04 when I click on System>Removable Drives and Media; I get "Volume management not supported"
[12:19] <jimm> what will that do
[12:19] <Xoris> [TK] D-Fender: in your login screen. just click on the Options button (when using GDM) or on the button with a menu drawn on it (on KDM)
[12:19] <praet> [TK] D-Fender: there is a way to select the desktop from the login screen
[12:19] <Scunizi> [TK] D-Fender: when you get to the login screen look to the bottom left (usually) and click sessions.  Change to KDE there.
[12:19] <padavoine> aaisen: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[12:19] <praet> wow
[12:19] <ir7> can anyone tell me if this graphics card is compaticel with desktop effects :  i have a intel 82815 cgc chipset graphics controller re 04
[12:20] <[TK] D-Fender> Xoris, Ok, I feel silly now.  Thanks :)
[12:20] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[12:20] <ahmadsaifan> #beryl
[12:20] <padavoine> ir7: intel cards are supposed to be compatible but just try it out, you have nothing to lose
[12:20] <jimm> so how do i unmount my 2nd drive
[12:20] <ir7> try what out?
[12:20] <padavoine> ir7: http://compiz.org/Intel
[12:20] <jimm> my b drive
[12:20] <ir7> ok
[12:20] <AdemoS>  <padavoine> AdemoS: i don't think that setting matters but just follow the official how-to and you're sure not to have any problems <-- Thanks
[12:20] <praet> ir7: type glxinfo in a command line.  The first few lines should have Direct rendering: yes
[12:21] <AdemoS> will do
[12:21] <aaisen> padavoine, I appreciate the link, put I've followed that tutorial to a tee
[12:21] <aaisen> any further help?
[12:21] <padavoine> aaisen: oh, sorry, no idea...
[12:21] <padavoine> AdemoS: welcome
[12:21] <M3G4crux> does any of you have the flash player version 7
[12:21] <scguy318> ir7: glxinfo | grep rendering
[12:21] <hsatera> how do i move a whole folder to another trough comand?
[12:21] <Xoris> hsatera: man mv
[12:21] <hsatera> Xoris: :D
[12:21] <dcode> praet: the manual config doesn't cover anything with the vpn connections
[12:21] <padavoine> hsatera: mv -R <yourfolder>
[12:22] <padavoine> hsatera: R stands for recursive
[12:22] <BENN92647> ok i did it now how do i open it?
[12:22] <tracer903> ubuntu 7.04 hald is not running, how do I start it?
[12:22] <Xoris> padavoine, "mv" has no -R option, and you need to give it two arguments of course, not just one
[12:22] <padavoine> BENN92647: /root/bin/ie I think
[12:22] <scguy318> when the script finishes it should tell you to do some cmd
[12:22] <jimm> yea
[12:23] <padavoine> Xoris: yeah I forgot there was no -R for mv. as for the two arguments that was implied
[12:23] <BENN92647> opps
[12:23] <ir7> it said no
[12:23] <wubuntu> anyone used ubuntu on a compaq server with a 3200 raid controller, is there a linux tool to control the 3200 card?
[12:23] <padavoine> Xoris: but yeah lol
[12:23] <BENN92647> i didnt see anything
[12:23] <jimm> im trying to unmount my b drive how do i do so
[12:23] <BENN92647> should i do it all over again?
[12:23] <padavoine> BENN92647: wait just a sec.../root/bin/ie6
[12:23] <Pici> BENN92647: by default it installs a symlink in ~/bin/ie6
[12:23] <hsatera> didnt worked
[12:24] <scguy318> ~/.ies4linux/ie6 i think
[12:24] <BENN92647> -pici so just type that in terminal?
[12:24] <Pici> BENN92647: yes
[12:24] <Pici> BENN92647: I think it puts a shortcut on the desktop too
[12:24] <BENN92647> -pici no such file
[12:24] <praet> dcode: i've not worked with vpn yet but you may want to check nm-vpn-properties
[12:24] <Pelo> good afternoon gents
[12:24] <jscinoz> Hey guys i have a dual boot vista/ubuntu system, i have 10gb+ of music stored on the vista partition, is it possible to link files from a ntfs partition to a ext3 partition?
[12:25] <jimm> im trying to unmount my b drive how do i do that????
[12:25] <fsckr> is there somewhere in gconf-editor I can go to add a custom font folder?
[12:25] <BENN92647> -padavoine no such file?
[12:25] <dcode> praet: thanx...I'll check that
[12:25] <padavoine> BENN92647: you chose the installation directory when installing...
[12:25] <padavoine> BENN92647: but scguy318 is right I think it's ~/.ies4linux/ie6
[12:25] <BENN92647> -scguy318 no such file
[12:25] <Pelo> jscinoz,  you can make a shortcut ot a file folder on your ntfs partition
[12:25] <DShepherd> ir7, join #beryl or ubuntu-effects for help with getting beryl or compiz runnig on your card
[12:25] <padavoine> BENN92647: oh lol
[12:25] <jscinoz> hmm
[12:25] <praet> fsckr: just copy the folder to the /usr/share/fonts
[12:26] <BENN92647> do i need the tilde
[12:26] <jscinoz> is it possible to have cross device links the other way? eg real file on ext3, link on ntfs?
[12:26] <praet> BENN92647: tilde ~/ = /home/username
[12:26] <padavoine> BENN92647: yeah that stands for <my home directory>
[12:26] <Pelo> jscinoz, windows won'T realy ext3
[12:26] <padavoine> praet: great minds think alike ;)
[12:26] <AdemoS> Downloaded the 7.04 i386 ISO, did a MD5 check [passed]  Burned it [no errors]  But I boot up Ubuntu, do a Disk Check and it gives the same old error message: can't access tty: job control turned off
[12:26] <ir7> ok thank you
[12:26] <AdemoS> What am I doing wrong here?
[12:26] <Pelo> jscinoz, windows won'T reald ext3
[12:26] <DShepherd> fsckr, i think there's a .font folder under your home folder too
[12:26] <PF|Ubuntu> Could someone tell me the command to log off another user and also the command to switch users in the terminal. Im having a stupid moment.
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> Why use ies4linux?
[12:26] <scguy318> Pelo, you need ext2 driver
[12:26] <jscinoz> Pelo, even with the ext3ifs? that gives windows ext3 support in its shell?
[12:26] <DShepherd> fsckr, .fonts*
[12:27] <BENN92647> nope. no such file...itdid do abunch of stuff though when i did what i was told so ther is something somewhere
[12:27] <fsckr> yea  DShepherd there is with a config file in there
[12:27] <Pelo> AdemoS, what is your video card ?
[12:27] <padavoine> fsckr: nautilus fonts:/// and then you can drag and drop to it
[12:27] <zmitya> hi all
[12:27] <fsckr> but i dont know the syntax or anything
[12:27] <AdemoS> Can't check
[12:27] <system_> I got a question about network security
[12:27] <BENN92647> hi Z
[12:27] <scguy318> BENN: ~/.ies4linux/ie6 no work?
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: did you get online?
[12:27] <AdemoS> well acctually I migt be able to in the bios
[12:27] <zmitya> how can I record from my mic in command line ?
[12:27] <BENN92647> YAY! indy!
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: i mean, did you get installed?
[12:27] <padavoine> system_: yes... ?
[12:27] <AdemoS> Yes, it was from http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu-releases/feisty/
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: do i know you?
[12:27] <padavoine> zmitya: sox I think sudo aptitude install sox, man sox
[12:27] <BENN92647> no scguy it didnt work
[12:27] <fsckr> yea i know but there are over 6000 fonts and I dont want to put the fonts mixed in with the defaults incase I want to take them out if you understand what i mean
[12:28] <AdemoS> [18:27]  <Pelo> AdemoS, what is your video card ? <--- Hold on I'll check
[12:28] <Pelo> jscinoz,  it's not great , but you can always try, you have my suggestion,  you could also make a fat32 partition and use that for the music it can be accessed from both windows and linux
[12:28] <system_> How can I recognize foreign intrusion on my computer ?
[12:28] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[12:28] <PF|Ubuntu> Could someone tell me the command to log off another user and also the command to switch users in the terminal. Im having a stupid moment.
[12:28] <padavoine> fsckr: just add in your own folder or put it in .fonts in your home directory
[12:28] <Fooxy> Hej
[12:28] <marc> anyone know a good wav to mp3 converter for ubuntu?
[12:28] <jscinoz> Pelo, making a shared partition is my last resort atm >_<
[12:28] <fsckr> ok
[12:28] <jimm> im trying to unmount my b drive how do i do that????
[12:28] <jimm> im trying to unmount my b drive how do i do that????
[12:28] <BENN92647> yeah you are one of the people who helped me get my ubuntu running and helped me with getting my wireless up and going and on and on
[12:28] <Fooxy> what the name for the swedish ubuntu channel?
[12:28] <PF|Ubuntu> jimm, sudo umount /media/name
[12:28] <Pelo> jimm, find the driver icon, right click, unmount
[12:28] <jrib> PF|Ubuntu: kill all the users processes to log him off.  To switch users: su - USERNAME
[12:28] <BENN92647> well you and ubotu
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: hmm, sorry guess i don't remember
[12:29] <jimm> ok
[12:29] <zmitya> padavoine: sox is too big for this
[12:29] <Pici> Fooxy: #ubuntu-sw or sn I think.  whatever the sweden country code is
[12:29] <PF|Ubuntu> jrib, someone gave me a command involving sig9
[12:29] <fsckr> now if i have the dir in .fonts how do i use them?
[12:29] <tracer903> I can't mount usb flash drive
[12:29] <PF|Ubuntu> jrib, i cant remember it now
[12:29] <BENN92647> you help alot of people..we remeber you that's all that is important
[12:29] <Pici> Fooxy: actually #ubuntu-se I think
[12:29] <Fooxy> Thx pici
[12:29] <padavoine> zmitya: yeah i don't know then
[12:29] <zmitya> padavoine: checkink arecord
[12:29] <Andy_Alpha> hi. what's the name of that program which configures NVIDIA GBOs?
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: i try
[12:29] <praet> marc: wav > mp3 you can use the lame encoder with a frontent like sound juicer
[12:29] <zmitya> padavoine: thx anyway
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: did you get installed, or still having issues, evne w/ the alternate install cd?
[12:29] <Pelo> fsckr,  the fonts should show up in your apps,  do they show up in OOo ?
[12:30] <praet> fsckr: fonts should auto show when you reload an app
[12:30] <BENN92647> well i have  a new one for you but its easy...i need to install ies4linux...i have the packet i just cant get wine to run it
[12:30] <mattgyver83> has anyone here used vnc (preferably tightvnc) with linux?
[12:30] <PF|Ubuntu> mattgyver83, I use RealVNC
[12:30] <padavoine> fsckr: I think you need to run fontcache, man font-cache
[12:30] <padavoine> fsckr: fc-cache actually
[12:30] <wubuntu> RealVNC here too
[12:30] <fsckr> yea they do but they are  named all wierd..ill figure it out
[12:30] <Pelo> BENN92647, if it is a linux package you probably donT need wine
[12:31] <mattgyver83> pf|ubuntu; are you using vnc to connect to a linux box?
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: ? its a linux package you don't need wine
[12:31] <BENN92647> -indygunfreak it seems to have installed it somewhere when i ran it in terminal
[12:31] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, here'smy problem I have an SD Card, it was working fine minutes ago... now, it decided that it wouldn't automount it, tried gparting it to a fat32 and it said "set partitiontype" tried using the command unmount which doesn't seem to exist on my system... and now I have an SD Card that I can't use... What do I do?
[12:31] <BENN92647> -indygunfreak how do i find it
[12:31] <Andy_Alpha> hi. what's the name of that program which configures NVIDIA GBOs?
[12:31] <BENN92647> -pelo wher can i find it?
[12:31] <jrib> PF|Ubuntu: pkill -u USERNAME   will kill all of a users processes.  Using sig9 is overkill imo
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: open synaptic, and do a search for  ie
[12:32] <Pelo> BENN92647,  probably in the menu under internet,  or try typing the name of the app in the terminal
[12:32] <PF|Ubuntu> ok thanks jrib
[12:32] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak,  he said he tought it got installed
[12:32] <padavoine> BENN92647: find / --name ie6
[12:32] <Beyond_The_Grave> Does anybody know how to reformat a stubborn, unformatted disk?
[12:32] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:32] <mattgyver83> Beyond_the_grave, i had that happen to me.  I had to format the card with gparted in order to make it work again.
[12:32] <Artimus> Is anyone running Gutsy?  How stable is it, generally?  Are we talking Debian Unstable here?  Or worse?
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: if its installed, it will show up in synaptic via the search feature
[12:33] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, he didn't say it was a deb file
[12:33] <Beyond_The_Grave> I tried gparting it, but it keeps coming up with the error "set partitiontype"...
[12:33] <mattgyver83> pf|ubuntu; are you using vnc to connect to a linux box?
[12:33] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[12:33] <Pelo> Artimus, for help with gutsy try in #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <jrib> Artimus: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy discussion
[12:33] <PF|Ubuntu> mattgyver83, I go both ways. Windows to nix, nix to Windows
[12:33] <system_> can anyone tell me something about security using kopete ?
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: true, i was thinking he downloaded a .deb
[12:33] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> Artimus i love gitsy...
[12:33] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[12:33] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave, you need to tell it it is a primary partition
[12:33] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> gutsy even
[12:34] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK...
[12:34] <jrib> !anyone | system_
[12:34] <ubotu> system_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:34] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave,  I think I am not sure
[12:34] <mattgyver83> pf|ubuntu; Are you able to take complete remote control of the desktop, or does it just create a new 'session' when connecting to linux
[12:34] <Beyond_The_Grave> It also won't let me delete the old partition which is unknown.
[12:34] <ahmadsaifan> how can i extract something to the themes directory?
[12:34] <PF|Ubuntu> mattgyver83, takes control. I also use an NX client over SSH which creates a new session.
[12:34] <AdemoS> [18:28]  > [18:27]  <Pelo> AdemoS, what is your video card ? <---- Intel Crestline Graphics (probably integrated because it's a notebook)
[12:34] <jrib> ahmadsaifan: just drag the tar.gz for your theme into the  system -> preferences -> themes  window
[12:34] <padavoine> ahmadsaifan: right hand click the archive, extract here
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: what instructions did you follow to install it?
[12:35] <padavoine> ahmadsaifan: yeah do what jrib told you it's faster :D
[12:35] <mattgyver83> was real vnc easy to setup on linux, im using tightvnc but am having problems going from windows to linux, or linux to linux
[12:35] <AdemoS> [18:30]  <IndyGunFreak> AdemoS: did you get installed, or still having issues, evne w/ the alternate install cd? <--- Could not install, tried alt instal CD, had X windows issues
[12:35] <Pelo> AdemoS, ok I was thinking it might have been nvidia or ati , you would have needed the alternate install cd,    tell me at what speed di dyou but the cd ?
[12:35] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[12:35] <AdemoS> 8x
[12:35] <BENN92647> -indygunfreak  its an ap that is supoosed to run in wine...it doesnt show in synaptic
[12:35] <neverblue> ahmadsaifan, im most cases, you can usually keep the tar ball (or what ever compressed file it is), well compressed
[12:35] <ahmadsaifan> ill try that
[12:35] <padavoine> !ssh
[12:35] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: ies4linux, is a linux native app, you don't need wine
[12:35] <ahmadsaifan> do i need to extract the them to desktop then drag it to the window?
[12:35] <neverblue> mattgyver83, problems, such as?
[12:36] <BENN92647> -indygunfreak then i installed it wrong
[12:36] <mattgyver83> well... heres what i think
[12:36] <jrib> ahmadsaifan: no, do not extract
[12:36] <mattgyver83> windows connections are fine
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: type his "/join #indygunfreak" no quotes
[12:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> It won't let me creat a new partition and it won't let me delete the old one.
[12:36] <Pelo> AdemoS, if you are willing to try again I suggest 1x  but you might want to give the alternate install cd a shot
[12:36] <mattgyver83> linux connections originally just give me a terminal window
[12:36] <padavoine> IndyGunFreak: ies4linux is native linux, but then it installs IE so IE needs wine to be run
[12:36] <PF|Ubuntu> mattgyver83, that's why I use RealVNC
[12:36] <Pelo> AdemoS,  is there someting weird abotu yoru system , like a usb cd drive or someting ?
[12:36] <neverblue> mattgyver83, can you keep it to one line please?
[12:36] <padavoine> IndyGunFreak: ies4linux is just a script which will get and install three versions of IE. The actual IEs need wine to be run. ies4linux doesn't need wine
[12:36] <AdemoS> [18:36]  <Pelo> AdemoS, if you are willing to try again I suggest 1x  but you might want to give the alternate install cd a shot <--- tried 4x, same result, can't do 1x on my CDRs, but even if I could I don't think it's burn speed
[12:37] <AdemoS> [18:36]  <Pelo> AdemoS,  is there someting weird abotu yoru system , like a usb cd drive or someting ? <-- Internal CD drive, new Dell computer
[12:37] <system_> How can I run Windows XP or MacOSx under Ubuntu using VMWare Server ?
[12:37] <padavoine> BENN92647: Try find / --name ie6
[12:37] <Andy_Alpha> hi. what's the name of that program which configures NVIDIA GBOs?
[12:37] <AdemoS> this one http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspnnb_152x?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19
[12:37] <neverblue> !vmware | system_
[12:37] <ubotu> system_: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:37] <praet> AdemoS: this may be a silly question, but do you happen to have a floppy in the drive?
[12:37] <Pelo> AdemoS,  give the alternate install cd a shot then , and  no need to repeat my lines thanks
[12:37] <padavoine> BENN92647: make that sudo find / --name ie6 cos you need root permission to see everything
[12:37] <AdemoS> Inspiron 1520
[12:37] <mattgyver83> Linux to windows/Windows to windows connections work fine.  Linux connections give me a terminal window.  I have found instructions on how to run a gnome session within that terminal and do.. but its running a seperate session and you dont take remote control, its more behind the scenes.
[12:37] <zimnyx> I have new laptop in my work, and in place of Ctrl i got fucked up Fn. It's not possible to switch it and now I have problems pressing Ctr-Shift-c / Ctr-Shitf-v as copy & paste in gnome-terminal. Do you know if I can make gnome-terminal use diffrent "magic" key instead of Shift ?
[12:37] <ysop> hi is anyone experienced in dualbooting ? i received an bosd/bluescreen "disk error" when starting windows after installing ubuntu, before ubuntu installation XP work fine
[12:37] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, this sucks.... I can't even get gparted to delete a partition...
[12:38] <AdemoS> Praet: There is no floppy drive
[12:38] <mattgyver83> Beyond_The_Grave, if you havent unmounted the volume then it probably doesnt recognize the card right now... reboot
[12:38] <AdemoS> Pelo: I have tried Alt CD, I got X Windows Server errors
[12:38] <AdemoS> Pelo: It said I had screens, but they weren't recognized or something
[12:38] <Pelo> zimnyx,  you can set your own keybaord shorcuts from the preference menu and there is the scim thngy that you can probably use to map a key on your keyboard
[12:38] <Beyond_The_Grave> It sees it, but it won't let me do anything to it.
[12:38] <pi3> Beyond_The_Grave: if you are keeping windows, you first have defrag ntfs partitions
[12:39] <Beyond_The_Grave> No, just want it to be a fat32 storage device.
[12:39] <Pelo> AdemoS, do you have a second screen connected to your comp?  maybe you should do the install with just the one screen
[12:39] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, are you using gparted?
[12:39] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes.
[12:39] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, what kind of drive? USB? IDE?
[12:39] <praet> AdemoS: try booting with the option 'boot with driver cd' then keep the regular cd in the drive and hit enter twice when asked
[12:40] <Beyond_The_Grave> SD Card.
[12:40] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave, open us synaptic and do a search for format , I think there is a disquette formating app in there somehwere
[12:40] <Andy_Alpha> hi. what's the name of that program which helps confiquring NVIDIA GBOs?
[12:40] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, what does it show up as in /dev ??
[12:40] <Beyond_The_Grave> /dev/sdb.
[12:40] <neverblue> mattgyver83, there is a setting to allow VNC users to connect to your box, so maybe you might need to change those settings, also you might want to look into forwarding X through SSH, as another consideration
[12:40] <AdemoS> [18:39]  <Pelo> AdemoS, do you have a second screen connected to your comp? <-- No extra screens, just default monitor
[12:40] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, gparted should take care of it. Did you umount it?
[12:40] <Pelo> !nvidia | Andy_Alpha it might be mentionned in the documentation
[12:40] <ubotu> Andy_Alpha it might be mentionned in the documentation: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <Beyond_The_Grave> How do I do that?
[12:40] <neverblue> AdemoS, are you dual booting?
[12:41] <praet> Andy_Alpha: try editing your xorg.conf file
[12:41] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, sudo umount /media/cardname
[12:41] <AdemoS> neverblue: I used KillDisk to zero-out the drive before installing
[12:41] <mattgyver83> once i can get this setup correctly i will do ssh, right now i cant take true, remote control in linux
[12:41] <neverblue> AdemoS, or is this a seperate system?
[12:41] <praet> AdemoS: did you try what i posted?
[12:41] <ysop>  anyone experienced in dualbooting ? i received an bosd/bluescreen "disk error" when starting windows after installing ubuntu, before ubuntu installation XP work fine
[12:41] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, cardname is whatever the name of the disk is in /media
[12:41] <padavoine> Andy_Alpha: um nvidia-xconfig ?
[12:41] <AdemoS> neverblue: Yes, it's a notebook, I'm typing on a desktop rigt now
[12:41] <AdemoS> praet: Which thing?
[12:41] <praet> AdemoS: try booting with the option 'boot with driver cd' then keep the regular cd in the drive and hit enter twice when asked
[12:41] <AdemoS> oooh
[12:41] <Andy_Alpha> thx
[12:41] <neverblue> AdemoS, that doesnt really answer my question directly
[12:41] <AdemoS> alright I'll try that praet
[12:41] <Pelo> AdemoS,  here is a list of hardware for ubuntu, check if your lappy is listed and if there are any tips , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  you can also try looking up your model in www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:42] <padavoine> Andy_Alpha: welcome
[12:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> It doesn't show up in media and I don't think I can use unmount.
[12:42] <neverblue> mattgyver83, can you RCD into the windows box?
[12:42] <AdemoS> sorry neverblue, but I'm not sure what you mean. It's seperate from my computer I'm using right now, what do you mean?
[12:42] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, it's not in /media?
[12:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope, can't.
[12:42] <zimnyx> Pelo: you mean keyboard shortcuts in gnome? There is no copy/paste there
[12:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope.
[12:42] <mattgyver83> neverblue, yes
[12:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> And can't use unmount.
[12:42] <SnapyGapi> hi, i tryed to install ubuntu 7.04(downloaded live cd) on external drive 250 gb and it worked great until the end... look in this screenshot: http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkc4.png does enyoune know what am i doing wrong?
[12:42] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> umount <--> not unmount
[12:42] <neverblue> AdemoS, that is what I am asking, is it a different computer than the one your using
[12:42] <AdemoS> yes
[12:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ok.
[12:42] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, yeah
[12:42] <neverblue> mattgyver83, works fine?
[12:43] <mattgyver83> neverblue, like a charm
[12:43] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, it's Umount, not UNmount
[12:43] <PF|Ubuntu> lol
[12:43] <Pelo> zimnyx, I meant keybaord shortucs in menu > system > prefs > keyboard shorcuts
[12:43] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK
[12:43] <neverblue> AdemoS, so you went through the entire install, and you only foudn the issue, X doesnt start?
[12:43] <neverblue> found*
[12:43] <Beyond_The_Grave> It didn'st automount it though.
[12:43] <AdemoS> neverblue: When using Alt CD, that was my issue
[12:43] <AdemoS> praet: I'll try that idea now
[12:43] <AdemoS> brb
[12:43] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, it shouldnt automount, as it's not a USB device
[12:44] <neverblue> mattgyver83, do you write code, maybe you can help the VNC world outta bit ;)
[12:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> It did at first.
[12:44] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, only USB devices automoutn when hotplugged
[12:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> Then it didn't.
[12:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> It was an SD Card.
[12:44] <mattgyver83> neverblue, when i connect into linux... i just get a terminal session, thats it.  I literally have to start a gnome session and it appears like i just logged in the computer fresh off a boot.  However i believe that it is running an additional session on my computer when i reboot, i hear the ubuntu jungle music twice, one right after another
[12:44] <marc> anyone know a good wav to mp3 converter for ubuntu?
[12:44] <Pelo> marc,  soundconverter
[12:44] <PF|Ubuntu> marc, audacity
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> BENN92647: you there?
[12:44] <praet> marc: use Sound juicer with the lame encoder
[12:44] <neverblue> mattgyver83, oh, that happened to me as well
[12:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> It did mount itself with a nice logo on the desktop and everything.
[12:44] <mattgyver83> neverblue, how do you solve that?
[12:45] <neverblue> mattgyver83, i boot my system, login, then vnc in
[12:45] <marc> thank you
[12:45] <PF|Ubuntu> Beyond_The_Grave, did you change any options pertaining to hotplugging?
[12:45] <Notricon> hey
[12:45] <exhausted> does anyone know why fglrxinfo shows ATI model in Gnome but in Gnome + XGL it shows Mesa
[12:45] <Notricon> I'm trying to compile Pidgin
[12:45] <neverblue> mattgyver83, you have to do the login :/
[12:45] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope.
[12:45] <ysop>  anyone experienced in dualbooting ? i received an bosd/bluescreen "disk error" when starting XP after installing ubuntu, before the installation of ubuntu, XP worked fine... i guess it have to be something with the mbr or xps boot.ini, but i cant figure it out myself. I tried to chkdsk with the windows-cd, and several manual partition setups.
[12:45] <Notricon> lots of things I'm missing
[12:45] <PF|Ubuntu> Notricon, www.getdeb.net
[12:45] <zimnyx> Pelo: yeah, there is no copy/paste settings in my case.
[12:45] <PF|Ubuntu> Notricon, search for Pidgin
[12:45] <Notricon> there's Pidgin therE?
[12:45] <PF|Ubuntu> Notricon, there's a full Pidgin package with plugins on there
[12:45] <praet> mattgyver83: that is the nature of vnc on linux vs. windows, an entire session is created per login (unless you create a session running on the console :1)
[12:45] <Beyond_The_Grave> And even though it is mounted it says the device is not mounted.
[12:45] <Notricon> there wasn't at the Pidgin page
[12:46] <squee> ysop, the mbr shouldn't be the problem.  It would have to be changed for grub, its what I did when I dual booted.  I dont know what could cause that exactly, but i hope that narrows it down some
[12:46] <PF|Ubuntu> Notricon, I'll find it
[12:46] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave,  in the gnome menu, under add/remove ,  there is a tool called disk management  that lets you format,  try that
[12:46] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave,  you need to install it
[12:46] <neverblue> ysop, what is your partition layout like?
[12:46] <PF|Ubuntu> Notricon,  http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1209
[12:47] <Notricon> I could have found it
[12:47] <SnapyGapi> hi, i tryed to install ubuntu 7.04(downloaded live cd) on external drive 250 gb and it worked great until the end... look in this screenshot: http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotkc4.png does enyoune know what am i doing wrong?
[12:47] <Notricon> I just said that there wasn't a package at the offical page of Pidgin
[12:48] <mattgyver83> praet, how can i create a session running on console:1 ?
[12:48] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[12:48] <AdemoS> [18:42]  <Pelo> AdemoS,  here is a list of hardware for ubuntu, check if your lappy is listed and if there are any tips , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  you can also try looking up your model in www.ubuntuforums.org <---- found it
[12:48] <AdemoS> [18:42]  <Pelo> AdemoS,  here is a list of hardware for ubuntu, check if your lappy is listed and if there are any tips , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  you can also try looking up your model in www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:48] <AdemoS> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron1520
[12:48] <system_> i have installed vmware player and have created a .vmx file for WindowsXP . After I started vmware player I selected the right .vmx file and then the programm asked me for a .vmdk file . How can I create such file ?
[12:48] <mattgyver83> praet, is console 1 the 'true desktop'?
[12:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> It says there are no filesystems that I can mount or unmount.
[12:48] <squee> SnapyGapi, Try installing without oddly named mount points.  Use  "My_Book" or something like that
[12:48] <Pelo> AdemoS, anyhelp in there ?
[12:49] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[12:49] <SnapyGapi> how?
[12:49] <ahmadsaifan> how do i umport icon and cursor themes?
[12:49] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:49] <Fooller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR Will this guide work in Kubuntu too?
[12:49] <Pelo> !theme > ahmadsaifan check your private message windows for a message from ubot3
[12:49] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ok, just used it as root and nothing.
[12:50] <system_> How can I create a Windows XP .vmdk file for vmware player ?
[12:50] <Beyond_The_Grave> It says none that I'm "allowed" to mount or unmount.
[12:50] <AdemoS> [18:49]  <Pelo> AdemoS, anyhelp in there ? <--- I think so...it's telling me to down grade to 6.10 install and upgrade after...
[12:50] <Pelo> Fooller,  there have been some issues in the past couple of days with the servers , it might be related
[12:50] <squee> SnapyGapi, It looks like when you set up partitioning, you put a space in between one of the words, and that could be the cause
[12:50] <AdemoS> it says X Windows iwll fail, and to do some things...does that sound normal?
[12:51] <neverblue> system_, I am sure you can find step by step documentation about that online, rather than have someone go through it step by step with you in here
[12:51] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:51] <Fooller> Pelo, what? :P
[12:51] <SnapyGapi> sqee, i dont use manual partitioning i use guided, and select external wd drive
[12:51] <Pelo> AdemoS, it is not normal  but it is not gonna hurt your computer, windows x as nothing to do with your windows insallation
[12:51] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[12:51] <SnapyGapi> srry bit sqee, squee
[12:52] <AdemoS> Well I alaready deleted windows enitirely pelo
[12:52] <AdemoS> This is what I mean
[12:52] <AdemoS> The X server will fail to load when you first boot Ubuntu-6.10, and you will see a error message on your screen with the options to continue or exit. Select the Cancel or exit options, until you see a terminal. (You can also change to a new terminal by using the keys Ctrl-Alt F2)
[12:52] <Notricon> also
[12:52] <Notricon> I'm trying to install a new driver for my graphic card
[12:52] <Notricon> from nVidia
[12:52] <Notricon> because I recently changed the card
[12:52] <Pelo> AdemoS,  I see
[12:52] <Notricon> and it says it needs a kernal interface :S
[12:53] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:53] <Beyond_The_Grave> Does anybody know how to reformat a stubborn SD Card.
[12:53] <squee> SnapyGapi, Then it sounds like it may be having trouble with the label of the drive.  I have never installed to an external,  so i'm not really certain on how to fix that.  Would it be possible to put this hard drive in your pc?
[12:53] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave,  check in the forums,  www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:53] <squee> SnapyGapi, like use ide instead of usb, that might help
[12:53] <ysop> very strange, fdisk tells me that "Cannot open /dev/sda"
[12:54] <Pelo> ysop,  is /dev/sda  your windows drive by anychance ?
[12:54] <Dethlok> my resolution can only go to 1024x768 @50hz... is there any way i can make it go up higher?
[12:54] <Blah> have you guys seen this lol  http://www.ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54
[12:54] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:54] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:54] <alfaro> while trying to configure the xorg.conf, it appears this message  "For the X Window System graphical user interface to operate correctly,    
[12:54] <alfaro>   it is necessary to select a video card driver for the X server."  where can i find the video card driver, or which choice shall i pick?
[12:54] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:54] <brambi> when i am trying to install ubuntu with alternative, the installation gets stuck here: http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/262/dsc00063yu5.jpg (translation: mirror server is being checked)
[12:54] <AdemoS> Pelo: "At this time you can install Ubuntu-7.04 (without such issues), by using the alternative CD in text mode."
[12:54] <AdemoS> I guess I'll try that again
[12:55] <AdemoS> going through tons of CDRs here X_X
[12:55] <neverblue> !pastebin | brambi
[12:55] <ubotu> brambi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <neverblue> !pastebin | alfaro
[12:55] <ubotu> alfaro: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <phreck> Hey, who knows how to setup some sort of "internet connection sharing" in Ubuntu
[12:55] <SnapyGapi> sqee, i dont know how...
[12:55] <Dethlok> my resolution can only go to 1024x768 @50hz... is there any way i can make it go up higher?
[12:55] <neverblue> !samba | phreck
[12:55] <ysop> ive got windows on /dev/sda1, root on /dev/sda2, swap on sda3 and a fat32 partition on sda4
[12:55] <ubotu> phreck: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:55] <Pelo> Dethlok, you can edit xorg.conf to add the extra resolutions manaualy,   in the terminal   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:55] <neverblue> Dethlok, does ti go higher?
[12:56] <Blah> phreck have you tried kpf ?
[12:56] <brambi> neverblue, stfu nigger.
[12:56] <Pelo> AdemoS,  it isn'T so difficult usualy you just got unlucky
[12:56] <phreck> nope
[12:56] <neverblue> !language | brambi
[12:56] <ubotu> brambi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:56] <phreck> Sure havent
[12:56] <SnapyGapi> squee, i could allways try downloading second plain text installer... but will it help?
[12:56] <Blah> works good for me :)
[12:56] <squee> SnapyGapi, Try asking your question on the forums, I'm really not sure how to fix this and you might get someone that knows how
[12:56] <phreck> What is it
[12:56] <SnapyGapi> ok
[12:56] <alfaro> "For the X Window System graphical user interface to operate correctly, it is necessary to select a video card driver for the X server. "  where can i find which video card driver i have?  or which choice shall i pick?
[12:56] <brambi> !faggot | neverblue
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about faggot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Dethlok> ok well i opened up xorg.conf so now what? lol
[12:57] <neverblue> thanks jrib
[12:57] <ysop> @pelo ive got windows on /dev/sda1, root on /dev/sda2, swap on sda3 and a fat32 partition on sda4, did i do something wrong ?
[12:57] <Blah> it's a file sharing server
[12:57] <neverblue> Dethlok, does your monitor go to higher resolutions?
[12:57] <Dethlok> yes, i can go alot higher on windows
[12:57] <Pelo> alfaro,  when it doubt use the default provided,  but your card is probably listed in your computer's documentation
[12:57] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[12:57] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi I just brought a second harddrive for storage. How do I partition it? It is internal
[12:58] <Dethlok> my video card is set up properly
[12:58] <neverblue> Dethlok, does your video card support higher resolutions?
[12:58] <Pelo> ysop, not that I can see , but I am not all that famiilar with fsck
[12:58] <alfaro> pelo- u know which one is the default provided?
[12:58] <Pelo> Dethlok, which videocard would this be ?
[12:58] <Pelo> alfaro, vesa i believe
[12:58] <alfaro> ohh ok
[12:58] <DShepherd> alfaro, you know which what kinda of video card you have?
[12:58] <Blah> I used to use kpf and lynx to get files on my server
[12:59] <Dethlok> hmm it should its an fx 5200, it should atleast go to 1024x1200
[12:59] <Blah> no I just use rsync and ssh
[12:59] <Dethlok> nvidia fx 5200
[12:59] <ysop> thx for trying to help me bye
[12:59] <neverblue> Dethlok, so your hardware can handle the higher resolution, now, did you setup drivers?
[12:59] <DShepherd> Dethlok, are you using the restricted drivers?
[12:59] <Dethlok> geforce
[12:59] <Pelo> Dethlok, nvidia card have a special config tool I beleive , but I don'T know what it is
[12:59] <Dethlok> i think it automatically did it when i installed
[12:59] <DShepherd> Pelo, nvidia-settings I think
[01:00] <neverblue> this would be more productive if one person answered :/
[01:00] <ker> #panas
[01:00] <Dethlok> how would i tell if my drivers are restricted?
[01:00] <Pelo> Dethlok, check what DShepherd said
[01:00] <fxfitz> How does one go about converting movies from one format to another??
[01:00] <laofu> hi
[01:00] <neverblue> Dethlok, are you using Feisty?
[01:00] <_nixMan> what is better as a webserver, ubuntu or suse?
[01:00] <neverblue> fxfitz, tovid
[01:00] <Dethlok> yes
[01:00] <Pelo> _nixMan, this is the #ubuntu channel what answer do you think you will get ?
[01:00] <neverblue> Dethlok, check the 'restricted drivers manager'
[01:00] <fxfitz> neverblue, I'll take a look at it. Thanks!
[01:00] <neverblue> Dethlok, that will set you up
[01:01] <ladydoor> fxfitz: You could probably just use ffmpeg to do it.
[01:01] <DShepherd> System - Administration - Restricted Driver Manager
[01:01] <laofu> are u solution for spca5xx problems with compiling???
[01:01] <neverblue> fxfitz, also ask in #tovid, they can help too
[01:01] <Pelo> fxfitz,  what kind of format are hyou talking about here ?  file to file , use avidemux,  file to dvd, try devede
[01:01] <neverblue> laofu, which camera are you trying to setup?
[01:01] <Dethlok> ok yes nvidia is in there
[01:01] <laofu> pls :-)
[01:01] <fxfitz> See, I once found a script (atleast I thought it was a script) and it converted .bin to .avi VERY easily
[01:01] <_nixMan> Pelo: so, i can be in a #freebsd chat room and say fbsd is not ideal for a desktop for noobs
[01:01] <Pelo> neverblue, you realy like tovid ?
[01:01] <squee> If i type "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" it says permission denied, but if I run it as root and not through sudo, it works.  Is it possible to do this correctly with sudo?
[01:01] <neverblue> Dethlok, did you run the restricted driver manager?
[01:01] <neverblue> Pelo, it does the trick, .avi > DVD
[01:02] <Dethlok> yes nivida is in there and it says its in-use
[01:02] <Pelo> _nixMan,  but #freebsd isn't populated by fanboys
[01:02] <neverblue> Dethlok, now you want to confirm the resolutions in your xorg.conf, make sure there are settings higher than what are currently set
[01:02] <Pelo> neverblue, I havenT' checked it out in a while , the gui didn't work properly back then , I went for devede,  I like it a lot , very neat
[01:03] <fxfitz> I'm looking for something really simple that converts from .bin to .avi
[01:03] <neverblue> Pelo, never tried it
[01:03] <_nixMan> Pelo: your sayiing ubuntu is populated by fan boys?
[01:03] <neverblue> fxfitz, .bin to .avi, that might be different
[01:03] <K99Brain> squee try sudo sh ....
[01:03] <Dethlok> ok in my xorg.conf the highest ones are what im using so that means my video card can't go up any higher?
[01:03] <Pelo> _nixMan,  I'm poking fun at my mates but no one is biting
[01:03] <squee> K99Brain, still denied
[01:03] <ladydoor> fxfitz: Okay, well the first problem is that the original file is a CD image in a nonstandard format and not an AV file
[01:03] <neverblue> fxfitz, u will want to find out how to mount the .bin
[01:04] <K99Brain> squee and sudo sh " ... "
[01:04] <neverblue> fxfitz, then once mounted, you will need to convert it, usually, unless you save your .avis directly to CD :)
[01:04] <ladydoor> fxfitz: Something you might try is converting the .bin file to .iso with bchunk, mounting it, and then ripping the data from it
[01:04] <Pelo> fxfitz,  a bin file is not a movie format it is an archive,  a cd image to be exact you need to burn it to a cd
[01:04] <Dethlok> ok in my xorg.conf the highest ones are what im using so that means my video card can't go up any higher?
[01:04] <neverblue> Dethlok, your xorg.conf WONT allow it to go higher
[01:04] <Pelo> Dethlok,  no it meand you add the ones you need to the list
[01:04] <neverblue> Dethlok, so you need to edit the xorg.conf
[01:04] <squee> K99Brain, with quotes around the command?  it says unknown id
[01:04] <fxfitz> I am positive that at one point I downloaded something and I would just have to go to the command line and do smoething like "./bin2avi file.bin new.avi"
[01:05] <fxfitz> But I can't remember the name of it.
[01:05] <Dethlok> oh ok i see...  i can try to do that
[01:05] <neverblue> fxfitz, it obviously matters whats in the image, the .bin file
[01:05] <marc> anyone know of a program good program to convert DRM wma to mp3?
[01:05] <Pelo> fxfitz,  google bin2avi see what comes up
[01:05] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, now I checked the forums and found nothing on sd cards that I haven't already tried....
[01:05] <neverblue> Dethlok, maybe even google other xorg.conf files, as a comparision
[01:05] <Dethlok> yea i might mess it up lol
[01:05] <Pelo> marc, we don'T do DRM
[01:06] <Notricon> I'm trying to install Pidgin, but it says that libatk1.0-0 is not satisfiable
[01:06] <Beyond_The_Grave> The sd card doesn't seem to want to mount itself.
[01:06] <fxfitz> Pelo, VCD gear! That's it!
[01:06] <Pelo> Dethlok, just follow the syntax  and don'T get wild , you know what res your screen can do , don'T think you can get better
[01:07] <Pelo> Notricon, also install the -dev package for that lib
[01:07] <Dethlok> is it 1024x963?
[01:07] <Notricon> what is the package I need to install?
[01:07] <Pelo> Dethlok, 1024x960 I think
[01:07] <Dethlok> ok thnx
[01:07] <Pelo> Notricon, go in synaptic,  search for libtak
[01:07] <klick> Hey all, i use feisty fawn, and the ppa.dogfood repo and just installed compiz last night.  I don't have aquarium or screensaver do you know how i can get these?
[01:07] <squee> If i type "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" it says permission denied, but if I run it as root and not through sudo, it works.  Is it possible to do this correctly with sudo?
[01:08] <astro76> Dethlok, it's 1280x960 I'd imagine
[01:08] <K99Brain> squee i'm not sure, but.. try also with single quotes '
[01:08] <Fooller> How do I make ISO image out of a file in my root dir?
[01:08] <Pelo> Dethlok,  or do you mean 1024x768 ?
[01:08] <klick> Fooller, i think its mkisofs
[01:09] <squee> K99Brain, nope, also tried ticks just in case
[01:09] <mariux> anyone here with a pentium m (centrino)?
[01:09] <Pici> squee: I think you can do `sudo echo 1 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward`
[01:09] <Notricon> there's lots of libatk related packs
[01:09] <Dethlok> 1024x768 is what i have now i want it higher
[01:09] <astro76> squee, one way is sudo bash -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[01:09] <Pelo> mariux, ask a specific question we may know anyway
[01:09] <Pelo> Dethlok,  do you have a wide screen ?
[01:09] <astro76> squee, the other way is sudo tee as Pici mentioned
[01:09] <mariux> anyone here with a pentium m (centrino) who in powertop gets something else than 100% C0 state?
[01:09] <Dethlok> no just a 19' lcd
[01:09] <Notricon> what should I install?
[01:10] <Pelo> Dethlok,  try 1280x1024
[01:10] <squee> Pici, astro76, Thanks
[01:10] <Dethlok> ok thanks =)
[01:10] <Pelo> Dethlok,  I think the next step up is  1600x1280  but i can't garantiy it
[01:10] <Dethlok> yea that sounds a little too high
[01:11] <Alloosh> Hi, asking the same question again, I have ubuntu xp network the ubuntu is the router, and the network type is switch, the problem is that xp keep losing connection to the network, any idea?
[01:11] <Beyond_The_Grave> How do I reformat a stubborn sd card? it hasn't auotmounted itself, it doesn't have a filesystem, and when I try to gpart it it keeps giving me an error "set partitiontype"....
[01:11] <Pelo> Dethlok, I know that there is one ??x1152 but I can't realy remember,  I'm only on a 17 in anyway, 1280 is more then enough
[01:11] <squee> Beyond_The_Grave, try sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/whateverthedeviceis
[01:11] <Pelo> Beyond_The_Grave,  did you check in the forum ?
[01:11] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes.
[01:11] <meoblast001> hey any Virtual Box users?
[01:12] <Notricon> please help, I do have libatk, but it says it's not stisfiable
[01:12] <squee> meoblast001, yep
[01:12] <meoblast001> squee: i already have Windows installed, can i use that with it?
[01:12] <Beyond_The_Grave> "/dev/sdb1: Read-only file system while setting up superblock"
[01:12] <pbugni> why don't i get any feedback from `apt-cache search <pkg>` when run as a sudo cmd from a regular user acct?  (works fine if i su)
[01:12] <Pelo> Alloosh, if no one where knows the answer you might want to give #networking a try or #samba if you are using it , or try chekcing in the forum
[01:12] <squee> meoblast001, boot your windows partition in virtualbox?
[01:12] <Beyond_The_Grave> "/dev/sdb1: Read-only file system while setting up superblock"
[01:13] <meoblast001> squee: but im a Wubi user
[01:13] <meoblast001> squee: Ubuntu and Windows on the same partition
[01:13] <Pici> pbugni: theres no need to prefix apt-cache search with su or sudo at all.
[01:13] <squee> meoblast001, I have no idea, i've never used wubi
[01:14] <meoblast001> squee: ok well ill check it out and see when its done downloading... didnt want to waste time to figure out i couldn't do what i wanted to
[01:14] <ionstorm> EFF.org is battle the NSA for illegally wiretapping america freely and the world
[01:14] <ionstorm> RIGHT now
[01:14] <ionstorm> holy shit
[01:14] <Pici> !offtopic | ionstorm
[01:14] <ubotu> ionstorm: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:14] <meoblast001> squee: if it shows the bootloader than it will work great
[01:14] <ionstorm> pici this effects the world bro
[01:14] <Beyond_The_Grave> "/dev/sdb1: Read-only file system while setting up superblock" That's what I got from the mkfs.ext3...
[01:14] <AdemoS> [18:57]  * ChanServ sets mode: +o jrib <--- Woah, undercover Ops? This channel is like a bank or something xD
[01:14] <Pelo> !ops | ionstorm
[01:14] <Stormx2> ionstorm: Yeah? Well it doesn't affect our rules...
[01:14] <ubotu> ionstorm: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:14] <Pici> ionstorm: okay, well you tell us about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:15] <pbugni> no apache<1> via apt-get?
[01:15] <nalioth> ionstorm: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for non support discussions
[01:15] <squee> meoblast001, I know vmware can boot other windows partitions, but I'm not sure that would even be possible if you can boot from a partition that is already mounted
[01:15] <pbugni> only apache2 ?  (looking via apt-cache search apache)
[01:15] <Beyond_The_Grave> Has anyody had an sd card that freaked out like mine?
[01:15] <neramos> i have a question
[01:15] <Pelo> neramos, ask it
[01:15] <mattgyver83> Beyond_The_Graves
[01:16] <mattgyver83> me
[01:16] <meoblast001> squee: well Ubuntu automatically mounts all partitions
[01:16] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes.
[01:16] <neramos> I am on an ubuntu server in terminal mode and i need something that I have not only one terminal but 4 terminals in the screen
[01:16] <mattgyver83> it still wont find your card?
[01:16] <squee> meoblast001, yes, but this would be trying to mount an operating system, that is a little different.  If both kernels try to open file handles on the same file it could become tricky
[01:16] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yeah.
[01:16] <Pici> pbugni: its called apache, and it should be there
[01:16] <Fox[work] > can someone tell me the md5sum for ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[01:16] <mattgyver83> have you tryed your card in a windows machine to make sure its not dead?
[01:16] <kitche> neramos, install X then just startx and twm will start
[01:17] <Beyond_The_Grave> Don't have one.
[01:17] <meoblast001> squee: well i gotta make sure both dont use the same files
[01:17] <Pelo> neramos, I don'T know about that but it is possible that you can have multiple workspaces in cli as well
[01:17] <RudyValencia> Fox[work] : brb, I'll go get the MD5SUM for it
[01:17] <Pici> Fox[work] : It would be alot faster for you to check on the ubuntu website
[01:17] <mattgyver83> does it recognize it at all?
[01:17] <pbugni> Pici: y - that's what i expected, but it's not *there*
[01:17] <meoblast001> squee: Windows cant touch Linux files
[01:17] <neramos> Pelo: okey thanks guys
[01:17] <meoblast001> squee: it cant mount
[01:17] <neramos> see you later
[01:17] <neramos> ill try
[01:17] <Pici> pbugni: What version are you using?
[01:17] <neramos> ecit
[01:17] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope, it doesn't automount it.
[01:17] <Fox[work] > Pici: i would but i can't find it
[01:17] <neramos>  /quit
[01:17] <pbugni> 6.06
[01:18] <Pici> pbugni: okay, let me check something
[01:18] <Dethlok> hey would it be ok to "replace" one that im currently not using that way i dont mess the format up for sure?
[01:18] <mattgyver83> have you tryed restarting your computer?
[01:18] <RudyValencia> Fox[work] : e296e3468358789904097fc8df29609a | ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso (per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes)
[01:18] <Fox[work] > thanks
[01:18] <RudyValencia> np
[01:18] <Pelo> Dethlok, just add it to the begining of the line
[01:18] <RudyValencia> now just md5sum it and compare the two :)
[01:18] <squee> meoblast001, Like i said, i have no experience with wubi.  I've never tried booting a partition that is installed either, only virtual disks
[01:18] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yeah, but you never know.... second, third times the charm...
[01:19] <mattgyver83> true
[01:19] <Enron> hacked!
[01:19] <Pelo> Dethlok,  you can't mess it up all that badly, you are not going to break your computer
[01:19] <RudyValencia> is there a diff between 6.06.0 and 6.06.1 ?
[01:19] <meoblast001> squee: ohh... well i just want to run my programs that WINE can't handle (like FL Studio and Flash MX
[01:19] <meoblast001> )
[01:19] <RudyValencia> *difference
[01:19] <Dethlok> lol, its just that their in ""'s and all evenly spaced hehe
[01:19] <mattgyver83> is there a program thats even similar to flash yet for linux?
[01:20] <Pelo> RudyValencia, there where several package updates, enought to justify a .1  so ppl woudn'T spend an hour updaing
[01:20] <Pici> pbugni: Yes, its there, make sure that you have the !universe repos installed
[01:20] <squee> meoblast001, understandable.  vmware might be able to pull it off, but i dont think virtualbox can boot real parittions yet
[01:20] <Pelo> !flash | mattgyver83
[01:20] <ubotu> mattgyver83: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:20] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ok, so i'll restart it one more time, but if it doesn't work... I'll talk to you again mattgyver83... k?
[01:20] <kitche> mattgyver83, not really
[01:20] <osmosis> is there no way to configure  gnome-terminal   to save everything that goes through its buffer into a log file...kind of like how xchat allows me to configure logs?
[01:20] <kitche> Pelo: he wants to run Flash MX not Flash the plugin
[01:20] <fxfitz> Can someone tell me what this keyring thing is?
[01:20] <osmosis> fxfitz: you put your keys on it
[01:20] <mattgyver83> ok
[01:21] <fxfitz> osmosis, Hah hah. But reallly, it pops up whenever I try to connect to a WPA wireless network,
[01:21] <meoblast001> squee: VMware doesnt work on my system... errors occur in the installer
[01:21] <Pici> Fox[work] : If you didnt get it yet: http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu-releases/feisty/MD5SUMS
[01:21] <astro76> fxfitz, this will make your life easier: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[01:21] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[01:22] <fxfitz> astro76, Problem is, I must have set a password to it before and now I don't remember it.
[01:22] <squee> meoblast001, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows.  This seems to be the best virtual box can do right now.
[01:22] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, ubuntu won't let me mount my new (blank) fat32 drive. I followed instructions on site but they stopped working
[01:22] <osmosis> fxfitz: its just an API that gnome applications use to save your password for later use. I suppose its secure, but I havent looked at it that closely.
[01:22] <fxfitz> astro76, I was wondering what exactly it is and if there was a way to reset it.
[01:22] <astro76> fxfitz, you're going to have to delete the keyring to set it the same as your user password anyway, according to those instructions
[01:22] <ladydoor> osmosis: Have you tried script?
[01:22] <Dethlok> ok i edited the xorg.conf file, do i just save it then reboot?
[01:22] <astro76> fxfitz, should be covered in there
[01:22] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, ubuntu won't let me mount my new (blank) fat32 drive. I followed instructions on site but they stopped working. So how do I mount a formatted drive plseasee?
[01:22] <fxfitz> astro76, Aha! It is! THanks!
[01:22] <fsckr> ok i have found a problem within gutsy and wondering if anyone else has had it.  When I click on a link to download something in firefox firefox quits responding.  This is a fresh install of gutsy.
[01:22] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo, give us a quick rundown of what you have done ?
[01:22] <osmosis> ladydoor: as in...writting my own script to do it?
[01:22] <Pici> Dethlok: no need to reboot. Just save then `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart`
[01:22] <Pelo> !patience | RootyRootRootWoo
[01:22] <ubotu> RootyRootRootWoo: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:23] <ladydoor> osmosis: As in /usr/bin/script
[01:23] <Pelo> fsckr,  the channel for gutsy is #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo: I got as far as "Create a Mount Point" here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[01:23] <ladydoor> osmosis: If you add it to your .bashrc, it'll record terminal sessions for any terminal you use it in, not just gnome-terminal.
[01:23] <fsckr> ohok thx
[01:23] <ladydoor> osmosis: Otherwise you could just call it yourself
[01:23] <Avt3kk> hi guys :D
[01:23] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo,  give me the command line you used for the mount point
[01:24] <meoblast001> squee: does that mean i need to get VMware to work?
[01:24] <Avt3kk> I got back from work just now; its 7:13pm in New York :)
[01:24] <pbugni> thanks Pici - bringing in universe did the trick
[01:24] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo:  sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/SLARTIBARTFAST
[01:24] <osmosis> ladydoor: looks pretty cool. Id just need to find a way to configure it so that it creates all the files cleanly. But yah, that could possibly work in my .bashrc
[01:24] <galpa> #ubuntu-es
[01:24] <squee> meoblast001, I believe so.
[01:24] <Pici> RootyRootRootWoo: hehe, that was the name of one of my computers a few years ago :)
[01:24] <astro76> Avt3kk, New York's clock must be 11 minutes slow :p
[01:24] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo: it is a fat32 drive (in case I ever need it to work in windos...
[01:24] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pici: lol
[01:24] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo, you like long names I see , ok that looks good, now show me the command you used to mount it
[01:25] <Avt3kk> I have a question lets say I follow the tut here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes will I keep the same video card driver because I have a special video card (Radeon Sapphire X800 GTO. <<?
[01:25] <galpa> hola todos
[01:25] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo: I used gparted to format it, then this in command line: sudo mkdir /media/SLARTIBARTFAST
[01:25] <Pici> !es | galpa
[01:25] <ubotu> galpa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:25] <Rafaell> someone has ati radeon in agp slot ?
[01:25] <Avt3kk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:26] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo, did you try to mount it ?
[01:26] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pici: all my comp components are Adams named
[01:26] <Avt3kk> if I update with that will I still keep my video card driver?
[01:26] <Pici> RootyRootRootWoo: Neat :)
[01:26] <meoblast001> squee: how do i launch Virtualbox?
[01:26] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo it gives me this error:  "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[01:26] <galpa> klk picis
[01:26] <Avt3kk> what you guyd think?
[01:26] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo, can you please type here the command you use to mount the hdd ?
[01:26] <TheimonAfk> meoblast001, by reading the docs
[01:27] <Avt3kk> if I update will I still keep the same vid card driver?
[01:27] <TheimonAfk> depends Avt3kk
[01:27] <Avt3kk> using that tut
[01:27] <TheimonAfk> but usually: no
[01:27] <Avt3kk> depends on what?
[01:27] <naknomik> Does skype work on Ubuntu? Are there any webcams known to work well with Ubuntu?
[01:27] <squee> meoblast001, i think the commandline is Virtualbox (capital v)
[01:27] <Avt3kk> will it default to safe mode driver??
[01:27] <TheimonAfk> if you upgrade your kernel the driver gets wrecked
[01:28] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo if I understand you this is what I typed: mkdir...blablabla, then: "sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/SLARTIBARTFAST"
[01:28] <astro76> !skype | naknomik
[01:28] <ubotu> naknomik: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[01:28] <Avt3kk> I have to have safe mode
[01:28] <squee> meoblast001, scratch that, VirtualBox
[01:28] <Avt3kk> radeon sapphire X800 GTO
[01:28] <TheimonAfk> other upgrades are safe usually
[01:28] <seanj_> lol, slartibartfast
[01:28] <galpa> nesecito ayuda porque mi reproducto no lee dvd
[01:28] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo,  sudo mount  vfat /dev/sdb ......
[01:28] <Rafaell> someone has ati radeon in agp slot ? i want to know what drive i use
[01:28] <astro76> naknomik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:28] <galpa> alguien me ayuda
[01:28] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo: ah. trying it now:)
[01:28] <Avt3kk> Thiem I need safe mode to boot linux
[01:28] <Avt3kk> what you recomend?
[01:28] <Dethlok> ok that put me into a black screen and i hate to restart.  and the resolutions are all the same hehe
[01:29] <Pici> Rafaell: Which card?
[01:29] <K99Brain> RootyRootRootWoo sudo mount -t vfat ...
[01:29] <TheimonAfk> eventually it'll fall back to a cli
[01:29] <Dethlok> *had
[01:29] <Rafaell> i have some probelms, can't load the server X ? can't found the device
[01:29] <TheimonAfk> so not all is lost
[01:29] <Avt3kk> cli??
[01:29] <Pici> galpa: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[01:29] <TheimonAfk> command line interface
[01:29] <madman91> how do the hardcore network users handle dns? .. what dns servers do they use?
[01:29] <Avt3kk> um I cant do command lol
[01:29] <Dethlok> yep] 
[01:29] <cafuego> madman91: bind9
[01:29] <naknomik> If I decide to use Ekiga what options do my buddies have who don't use Ubuntu?
[01:29] <galpa> pici para k
[01:29] <Avt3kk> so keep dapper?
[01:29] <Pelo> Rafaell, from the command line in the recovery mode    sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[01:29] <squee> madman91, I use opendns, or 4.2.2.1 (level 3's)
[01:30] <madman91> cafuego: home dns server?
[01:30] <cafuego> madman91: bind9
[01:30] <madman91> squee: i dislike opendns lately
[01:30] <Pelo> naknomik, skype I think
[01:30] <squee> madman91, why
[01:30] <TheimonAfk> you're going for a upgrade from dapper to feisty?
[01:30] <madman91> cafuego: alrighty.. ill google it :)
[01:30] <Rafaell> i have some probelms, can't load the server X , can't found the device , what can i do ?
[01:30] <Avt3kk> why dont the latest ubuntu have safe mode boot on live cd?
[01:30] <tiptronic> hey Pelo? remember me?
[01:30] <cafuego> whne I didn't use bind9 I used bind8.
[01:30] <Pelo> tiptronic, vaguely
[01:30] <cafuego> I've never sued bind4.
[01:30] <TheimonAfk> cause safe mode is crap
[01:30] <Rafaell> Pelo ok i will try it
[01:30] <Rafaell> =] 
[01:30] <galpa> pici estas hay
[01:30] <madman91> squee: well.. its not that fast.. and it is too bloaty
[01:30] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[01:30] <RootyRootRootWoo>        missing codepage or other error
[01:30] <cafuego> mydns seems neet, but I can't be bothered moving 100-odd zones
[01:30] <TheimonAfk> :)
[01:30] <squee> madman91, then try 4.2.2.1
[01:30] <Avt3kk> if I can find an ubuntu livd cd with safe mode I will download it
[01:30] <Pici> galpa: no hablo,
[01:31] <cafuego> Pici: The spanish inquisition!
[01:31] <madman91> squee: is that a famous dns serveR?
[01:31] <Avt3kk> I have to have safe mode boot on live cd<
[01:31] <TheimonAfk> Avt3kk, dont focus too much on nthe safe mode thing
[01:31] <Avt3kk> why?
[01:31] <Pici> cafuego: I didnt expect that! :p
[01:31] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo. I should mention (I'm guessing) that after it successfully partitioned the drive, gparted froze when scanning it. I thought nothing of it at the time
[01:31] <squee> madman91, level3's dns server, yea i suppose, primary 4.2.2.1, secondary 4.2.2.2
[01:31] <naknomik> Pelo: you mean I can use Ekiga and my buddy could use Skype on the other end? How does that work?
[01:31] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo, hmm, it shoudln'T be that complicated, to mount a fat32 hdd manualy, anythig special abouot it
[01:31] <TheimonAfk> what do you fear the most about a new install
[01:31] <TheimonAfk> ?
[01:31] <Notricon> woot
[01:31] <Notricon> I have a problem
[01:31] <Pelo> RootyRootRootWoo,  go back and partition again please
[01:31] <drgeb> when i mount my ntfs drive I am not  understanding why  I am not allowed to write to it
[01:31] <madman91> squee: it is faster than opendns .. almost twicely so
[01:31] <Notricon> it says that the indexes to the databases are wrong or something -_-
[01:31] <RootyRootRootWoo> Pelo, yes, my thoughts exactly too...
[01:31] <tiptronic> Pelo i was da 1 who was havin trouble installin ubuntu and installin apps, but anywayz i'm lookin 4 drivers for my wireless adapter
[01:32] <tiptronic> Pelo wireless card
[01:32] <Pelo> naknomik, not sure I was under the impression that ekiga was a skype alternative
[01:32] <drgeb> I also have a truecrypt drive thats ntfs and mounting this also does not allow me write permissions. Anny ideas ?
[01:32] <squee> madman91, depends on your location, but one of the two usually suffices in the us
[01:32] <Pelo> !wifi | tiptronic
[01:32] <ubotu> tiptronic: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:32] <galpa> me ayudas con mi reproductor pici
[01:32] <astro76> !es | galpa
[01:32] <ubotu> galpa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:32] <Avt3kk> I cant do anything from command
[01:33] <Pelo> tiptronic,  fty,  the one having trouble installing ubuntu and installing apps covers about 70% of the ppl comming in this channel
[01:33] <naknomik> Pelo: certainly not, skype is a proprietary protocol.
[01:33] <Avt3kk> should I just do this? http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2006/10/25/getting-ubuntu-dapper-to-dance-with-ati-x800-gto/
[01:33] <LordDragonSlayer> hey im having a dpkg erorr whenever i try to install a program or uninstall
[01:33] <Avt3kk> it only works for dapper or no?
[01:33] <Pelo> galpa,   /join #ubuntu-es  per ajuda en espanol
[01:33] <squee> LordDragonSlayer, What would that be
[01:33] <galpa> #ubuntu-es
[01:33] <carlos> hola
[01:33] <carlos> buenas tardes tengo un problema
[01:33] <Pelo> naknomik, check the ekiga website see if they have windows versions or someting
[01:33] <LordDragonSlayer> i0dk i get this message when even i try to install sumthing
[01:33] <LordDragonSlayer> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:33] <tiptronic> Pelo, i knew that wudnt remind u. :)
[01:34] <Pelo> !es | carlos
[01:34] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:34] <carlos> acabo de instalar compiz fusion
[01:34] <LordDragonSlayer> correct the problem.
[01:34] <LordDragonSlayer> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:34] <Avt3kk> carlos :)
[01:34] <carlos> sorryy
[01:34] <naknomik> !ekiga | naknomik
[01:34] <carlos> it es the channel in english
[01:34] <squee> LordDragonSlayer, Run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:34] <Pelo> !info ekiga
[01:34] <squee> LordDragonSlayer, or sudo apt-get install -f
[01:34] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu8 (feisty), package size 3608 kB, installed size 12632 kB
[01:34] <Avt3kk> Carlos yes this channel is english :D
[01:34] <LordDragonSlayer> yeah i tryd but it didnt work
[01:34] <squee> LordDragonSlayer, Try the second command then
[01:34] <TheimonAfk> Avt3kk, you could try, some clean innocent commands there
[01:35] <TheimonAfk> couldnt harmm much
[01:35] <TheimonAfk> -m
[01:35] <saimon> bonsoir
[01:35] <lxgg> does anyone know how to install x in a terminal ? with kde desktop environment
[01:35] <Avt3kk> Theim so the update for ati should work?
[01:35] <squee> lxgg, sudo apt-get install kde should work
[01:35] <ladydoor> lxgg: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <LordDragonSlayer> it wont let it wont let me do it for the ssame resons
[01:35] <TheimonAfk> just follow that guide
[01:35] <lxgg> okey ill try
[01:36] <bruenig> not a good idea to sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:36] <TheimonAfk> i dont have ati myslef zo i cant be sure
[01:36] <Dr_Link> What is the name of the Ubuntu C++ Compiler?
[01:36] <TheimonAfk> god the typos
[01:36] <Avt3kk> well on dapper it worked perfectly :D
[01:36] <atoms2> does some one know how i can list wireless access points?
[01:36] <squee> Dr_Link, gcc
[01:36] <Avt3kk> my screensaver is awsome
[01:36] <LordDragonSlayer> i tried  but it said i reuire super user privliges
[01:36] <Avt3kk> lattic
[01:36] <squee> Dr_Link, er, g++ for c++
[01:36] <Avt3kk> :O
[01:36] <TheimonAfk> (I dont have ati myself so i cant be sure)*
[01:36] <bruenig> using aptitude to install such a large meta package is very risky and opens you up to meta package hell
[01:36] <Pici> atoms2: iwlist ethX scan
[01:36] <Dr_Link> and it's command sudo apt-get install g++ to install it, right?
[01:37] <Avt3kk> well im just showing you the site so you know were it is incase someone else ask you<
[01:37] <squee> Dr_Link, do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:37] <Dr_Link> build-essential contians... what?
[01:37] <Avt3kk> for my ATI buddys lol
[01:37] <atoms2> Pici, what if it says that interface doesn't support scan?
[01:37] <Dr_Link> I just want the C++ and Java environments for my programming.
[01:37] <Avt3kk> ok thanx :D
[01:37] <Avt3kk> Thei
[01:37] <squee> Dr_Link, I can't remember off the top of my head, but if you type the command it will tell you before it installs
[01:37] <Pici> atoms2: Then I dont know
[01:37] <Dr_Link> M'kay.
[01:37] <TheimonAfk> dris it such a brand new card?
[01:37] <bruenig> rms is committing suicide as we speak
[01:37] <LordDragonSlayer> squee, it didnt work it said the same thing for the problem and i tried to run the configure but it tells me i need super user privlages
[01:37] <squee> Dr_Link, It isn't bloated ~ 15 mb
[01:37] <TheimonAfk> -dr
[01:38] <Pici> atoms2: You need to replace ethx with the name of your wireless interface of course though
[01:38] <Dr_Link> O_O
[01:38] <Avt3kk> Link haha
[01:38] <squee> LordDragonSlayer, you are running these as root or through sudo right?
[01:38] <Avt3kk> I love smilys
[01:38] <Dr_Link> squee: If you ask me, X-Chat GNOME is bloated.
[01:38] <LordDragonSlayer> whats root
[01:38] <Pici> !root | LordDragonSlayer
[01:38] <ubotu> LordDragonSlayer: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:38] <Dr_Link> takes up a good chunk of processor.
[01:38] <Avt3kk> ok see you guys thanx
[01:38] <Avt3kk> take care
[01:38] <bruenig> squee, pretty sure xchat gnome is smaller than xchat which is why it is so awful
[01:39] <TheimonAfk> Pici, do you ever get out? :)
[01:39] <squee> Dr_Link, look into openbox, but build-essential is not bloated.  It is literally one of the few things i install on systems when I first set them up
[01:39] <bruenig> build-essential is a meta package
[01:39] <meoblast001> whats the point of xchat gnome?
[01:39] <Pici> TheimonAfk: I'm doing like 10 things at once here
[01:39] <bruenig> it probably consists of a changelog text file
[01:39] <LordDragonSlayer> squee i tried it with sudo and it worked
[01:39] <TheimonAfk> yeah but do you ever get out?
[01:39] <Pici> TheimonAfk: Of course :)
[01:39] <LordDragonSlayer> thanks for your help i think its working now
[01:39] <TheimonAfk> :P
[01:39] <squee> LordDragonSlayer, running commands with sudo before them gives them super user privileges
[01:39] <Dr_Link> squee: 33.7 megabytes.
[01:40] <TheimonAfk> i've been  here since today but you're always on
[01:40] <Dr_Link> I have free space for a 8mb partition thanks to my  bloated Windows partition.
[01:40] <squee> Dr_Link, then i'm wrong, but I still recommend the package.
[01:40] <lxgg> i cant install kde in ubuntu server
[01:40] <Dr_Link> I need to resize it without losing my Windows data...
[01:40] <lxgg> why not ?
[01:40] <Dr_Link> squee: I installed it. the command line emulator is at work installing it.
[01:40] <squee> lxgg, good question.  I've done it
[01:40] <bruenig> Dr_Link, build-essential is a meta package, it installs a bunch of packages
[01:40] <Dr_Link> i know, just figured that out.
[01:40] <bruenig> Dr_Link, if you  just want the c++ compiler, you can just install that
[01:41] <Dr_Link> I don't JUST want the C++ compiler...
[01:41] <Pelo> Dr_Link, boot up widows,  backup your most improtatn stuff ( jsut in caase) , and run defrag a few times before resizing
[01:41] <squee> then build-essential is good
[01:41] <lxgg> squee: when i do sudo apt-get install kde -> i get, has no installation candidate
[01:41] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: You could put tomsrtbt onto that partition, but it doesn't have a compiler.
[01:41] <jimm> yay i finally installed it!!!!
[01:41] <squee> lxgg, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, make sure none are commented out
[01:41] <jimm> thanks to everyone that helped
[01:41] <bruenig> !info kde
[01:41] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: RE the 8MB partition, anyway ;)
[01:41] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:41] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[01:41] <jimm> bye
[01:41] <Dr_Link> but now, I think that I might actually take a look into learning C in order to develop my own kernel. I'm interested in the multi-layered kernel OSes, such as Ubuntu.
[01:42] <^BoSs> yeah
[01:42] <^BoSs> inviter
[01:42] <^BoSs> xaxa
[01:42] <ahmadsaifan> How can i have transparent panels and drop downs?
[01:42] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  /join #ubunt....
[01:42] <Dr_Link> ...eh.
[01:42] <bruenig> Dr_Link, such as linux
[01:42] <squee> Dr_Link, good luck
[01:42] <Dr_Link> I've already got a few good test-dummy computers.
[01:42] <ahmadsaifan> what/
[01:42] <bruenig> Dr_Link, you should help them finish hurd
[01:42] <TheimonAfk> Dr_Link, even if you learn C, thats gonna take some time
[01:42] <taglebro> does any1 know how to make the bottom bar (where windows get minimized) dissapear will using a program that occupies fullscreen?
[01:43] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  you are still in #ubuntu, to join another channel type /join #ubuntu-effects
[01:43] <Dr_Link> TheimonAfk: I'm only doing it for the fun of it. It might take years for a well-developed command line based kernel to come together.
[01:43] <ahmadsaifan> ok,
[01:43] <ahmadsaifan> but
[01:43] <Dr_Link> But it's always fun to jump in line behind FreeBSD. :P
[01:43] <ahmadsaifan> where can i find a Mac Dock?
[01:43] <Pelo> no buts
[01:43] <TheimonAfk> true
[01:43] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan, try google for avant windows nagivator
[01:43] <TheimonAfk> have to start somewhere :)
[01:43] <Dr_Link> Ubuntu doesn't do much to my processor.
[01:44] <Dr_Link> but i must say it really does something to my battery.
[01:44] <ahmadsaifan> is it like a application manager
[01:44] <tiptronic> inPelo when i'm in da terminal and i insert a command it asks for password, is it da user accounts password or something else?
[01:44] <Dr_Link> (working Ubuntu from a laptop)
[01:44] <squee> Dr_Link, then help improve acpi support
[01:44] <tiptronic> Pelo when i'm in da terminal and i insert a command it asks for password, is it da user accounts password or something else?
[01:44] <bruenig> Dr_Link, switch to a lighter distro
[01:44] <Dr_Link> squee: eh?
[01:44] <taglebro> does any1 know how to make the bottom bar (where windows get minimized) dissapear will using a program that occupies fullscreen
[01:44] <Pelo> Dr_Link,  you can have automatic cpufreq and fancontrl
[01:44] <squee> !acpi
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <bruenig> Dr_Link, ubuntu is heavy
[01:44] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: I find that Ubuntu on my laptop does even better than windows, but yeah, it might not quite support your hardware.
[01:44] <Pelo> tiptronic, what cd ?
[01:44] <squee> Dr_Link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface
[01:44] <Dr_Link> Well if it supports my wirelesscard
[01:45] <tiptronic> alternate
[01:45] <Dr_Link> and doesn't hog my processor at 60% while IDLING (*glares at Vista*)
[01:45] <Pelo> tiptronic, what are you doing ? reinstalling ubuntu ?
[01:45] <lxgg> nope not working....with all the sources
[01:45] <meoblast001> ohh no my i have to kill applications
[01:45] <taglebro> a
[01:45] <Dr_Link> Can you wipe an Ubuntu partition from a LiveCD?
[01:45] <squee> Dr_Link, yes
[01:45] <Dr_Link> In order to reinstall it?
[01:45] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: You'd have to be doign something rather significant to use more battery than Vista, indeed. :)
[01:46] <lxgg> does anyone know how to install kde in ubuntu server ? (sudo apt-get install kde -> not working, getting "kde is not available, but referred to by another package")
[01:46] <Dr_Link> Arafangion: lol, true. I got ubuntu because I'm into the Linux kernel. I like the way other OSes work, I'm tired of ".dll" this, "regedit" that.
[01:46] <tiptronic> no installing wireless card driver, but from da website u gave me, it sed i sgud enter a certain command but it asks 4 password
[01:46] <bruenig> ubuntu is amongst the worst distros for battery conservation
[01:46] <Dr_Link> Heh, funny to say that in #ubuntu, is it not?
[01:46] <Dr_Link> :P
[01:46] <HHP2K> bruenig: Why's that?
[01:46] <bruenig> HHP2K, it loads so many daemons at boot
[01:46] <Dr_Link> I hear Fedora Core is OK on the battery but not much better.
[01:47] <DWSR> bruenig: You installed laptop-tools?
[01:47] <bruenig> fedora core is just as bad
[01:47] <HHP2K> bruenig: Yes, but then they're all sleeping.
[01:47] <Pelo> lxgg,  sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop will do it but it will install everything else in kubuntu along
[01:47] <TheimonAfk> tiptronic, we're not all on US msn
[01:47] <TheimonAfk> what are you saying?
[01:47] <lxgg> Pelo, okey ill try
[01:47] <taglebro> plz
[01:47] <Dr_Link> I always wondered what would happen if I installed a raw UNIX kernel with no GUI interface into the 8mb free-space-unoccupied area.
[01:47] <Dr_Link> Damn Windows!
[01:47] <tiptronic> TheimonAfk wat do u mean?
[01:47] <bigjohnto>  anyone know any good programs for recovery of deleted files on ext3?
[01:47] <Pelo> tiptronic,  the password sould be your userpassword
[01:48] <mohammad> would someone please let me know where I can find a gnome applet developing howto?
[01:48] <bruenig> DWSR, laptop-mode is the same on any other distro all it does is take ubuntu's power usage to x - 1 and other lighter distros from (x -1) - 1
[01:48] <DWSR> Dr_Link: Don't install into that unoccupied area.
[01:48] <DWSR> Bad things can happen.
[01:48] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: You mean, fbsd?  You need more space than a pithy 8MB.
[01:48] <TheimonAfk> the way you type can be confusing for people
[01:48] <taglebro> does any1 know how to make the bottom bar (where windows get minimized) dissapear will using a program that occupies fullscreen?
[01:48] <Dr_Link> Heh.
[01:48] <jrick> Does anyone know how to set up a SMTP server (sendmail I think?)
[01:48] <pbugni> any idea why 'sudo' on a brand new system would just silently do nothing, regardless of the cmd you ask it to run?  as if all output from sudo is being piped to a hidden location
[01:48] <Pelo> mohammad, in the gnome website maybe ? or try asking in #gnome
[01:48] <DWSR> jrick: sendmail is a binary, not a daemon.
[01:48] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: Still, there are distros out there that are tiny.  tomsrtbt is the smallest.
[01:48] <tiptronic> Pelo: i entered it but it says authentication failure
[01:48] <DWSR> Check out Dovetail.
[01:48] <DWSR> I believe that's what it's called.
[01:48] <DWSR> !dovecot
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dovecot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <mohammad> Pelo: ok thank :)
[01:48] <DWSR> !find dovecot
[01:48] <ubotu> Found: dovecot-common, dovecot-imapd, dovecot-pop3d
[01:48] <bruenig> taglebro, I don't believe there is an option to do that, so unless you wish to modify the source code of gnome-panel...
[01:49] <Dr_Link> Arafangion: I heard that distro was terrible for people not used to UNIX or Linux.
[01:49] <Zoffix> Hi, I want to buy a laptop and wondering is there an easy way to check if certain hardware is supported in Ubuntu.
[01:49] <DWSR> !find postfix
[01:49] <ubotu> Found: postfix, postfix-cdb, postfix-dev, postfix-doc, postfix-ldap (and 9 others)
[01:49] <MBR666> taglebro, wjat
[01:49] <Pelo> taglebro,  find a free area of the bottom pannel , right click > properties, those are your options
[01:49] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: It's uber minimal, and the kernel is rather old.
[01:49] <Dr_Link> meh
[01:49] <bigjohnto> any ideas on that file recovery?
[01:49] <taglebro> i'm using beryl, if that helps in something
[01:49] <Dr_Link> I still need to learn C nonetheless.
[01:50] <nikolai> Has anyone here successfully set up Ubuntu on an Inspiron 1520?
[01:50] <Pelo> taglebro, you should have the option to auto hide the toolbar
[01:50] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: I suggest you instead see if your computer can boot from usb sticks, and put a distro onto the usb stick, or run within vmware.
[01:50] <Pelo> taglebro,  in the properties
[01:50] <Dr_Link> If I could learn Perl and PHP quickly, then I can learn C. I know C++, for f*ck sake! I like programming, so may as well learn the crown jewel of programming as it is sometimes called (even though it really isn't): C.
[01:50] <taglebro> oh, yes there are some "hide options
[01:50] <taglebro> thank u very much
[01:50] <Dr_Link> Arafangion: Nope, it can't run from USB sticks but it can run from bootable CDs.
[01:50] <DWSR> Dr_Link: C is the crown jewel because it's cross platform.
[01:50] <DWSR> and powerful.
[01:50] <Dr_Link> Yes.
[01:51] <Pelo> nikolai, check your model i this link and in the forum   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport    www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:51] <Dr_Link> That's the thing about C++, though. It has Classes, but it ain't completely crossplatform like Java and C and such.
[01:51] <sooth> Anybody familiar with debarchiver on Ubuntu?
[01:51] <DWSR> err.
[01:51] <DWSR> Yeah.
[01:51] <DWSR> Thanks Seveas
[01:51] <Dr_Link> ...is a  virtual machine software available for ubuntu? If not, I can surely use a Windows virtual machine software piece.
[01:51] <Busata> thanks
[01:51] <nikolai> thanks Pelo
[01:52] <Dr_Link> --- BOSS is now known as ^BoSs
[01:52] <Dr_Link>  Received a malformed DCC request from ^BoSs.
[01:52] <Dr_Link>  Contents of packet: DCC SEND "r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r " 2130706433 2333
[01:52] <Dr_Link> What the?!
[01:52] <Pelo> Dr_Link,  vmware-server is in the repos,  you get the free passwork from  the vmware site
[01:52] <DWSR> Malformed DCC request sent to the channel. Ignore it.
[01:52] <TheimonAfk> thats just the player
[01:52] <HHP2K> I got that too.
[01:52] <Dr_Link> I thought VMWare wasn't fre >.>
[01:52] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: Idiots trying to crack through bad clients, such as mIRC.
[01:52] <Dr_Link> *free
[01:52] <TheimonAfk> it aint
[01:52] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: It's a free download now.
[01:52] <tiptronic> Pelo: wat shud i do. i keep entering my password but it says authentication failure
[01:52] <pbugni> i got that three
[01:52] <Dr_Link> O_O
[01:52] <Pelo> Dr_Link, some versions are
[01:52] <TheimonAfk> iits just the player in repos
[01:53] <Dr_Link> Well, in that case.
[01:53] <kitche> Dr_Link, migth not want to repeat that in this channel either for the dcc thing
[01:53] <Pelo> tiptronic,  caplocks ?
[01:53] <Dr_Link> Do you have to repartition your hard drive for a VMware?
[01:53] <tiptronic> Pelo: no
[01:53] <Pelo> Dr_Link, no
[01:53] <TheimonAfk> nope
[01:53] <Fox[work] > i'm trying to install ubuntu on my other comp and after the bootup the bar goes to 100% and i get a console screen that says .. running local boot scripts done.., and it seems to stop there, is it doing something? or did it just crash?
[01:53] <Dr_Link> Just a quick question before I try anything else.
[01:53] <Pelo> tiptronic, I don'T know then did you boot the aternate cd or did you just put it in and are trying to install stuff from it ?
[01:54] <Dr_Link> Ubuntu has a striking resemblance to Windows and Mac, all rolled into a completely different package. O_o
[01:54] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: The other alternative is cygwin.
[01:54] <Oliazk> question -- what is ubuntu's default boot loader?
[01:54] <Blah> grub
[01:54] <TheimonAfk> Oliazk, grub
[01:54] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: But that's problematic on Vista, unfortunately.
[01:54] <Oliazk> thx
[01:54] <Pelo> Dr_Link,  i'm afraid you areabout to get banned for heresy
[01:54] <Dr_Link> Well, thank God I'm on XP.
[01:54] <Dr_Link> Pelo: Haha...
[01:54] <DWSR> Dr_Link: You're about to be pwned by Seveas.
[01:54] <Arafangion> Dr_Link: It's a terrific subsystem, but Vista sucks.
[01:55] <Fox[work] > can anyone help?
[01:55] <Pelo> Dr_Link,  there arenT' that many ways to do a graphical interface that is workable,   windows is very similar to mac which is very symilar to lisa etc
[01:55] <jrib> Dr_Link: please don't repaste that stuff here
[01:55] <Pelo> Fox[work] , what with ?
[01:55] <kitche> Fox[work] , you don't see anything that has login:
[01:55] <Fox[work] >  i'm trying to install ubuntu on my other comp and after the bootup the bar goes to 100% and i get a console screen
[01:55] <Fox[work] >                      that says .. running local boot scripts done.., and it seems to stop there, is it doing something? or did it just
[01:55] <Fox[work] >                      crash?
[01:55] <Fox[work] > oops
[01:56] <Fox[work] > no nothing with a login
[01:56] <jrib> !enter | Fox[work] 
[01:56] <ubotu> Fox[work] : Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:56] <BRUUUCE> does ubuntu server have a netboot installation, or is it just desktop?
[01:56] <Pelo> Fox[work] ,  this is after the install is completed ?
[01:56] <kitche> Fox[work] , usually it's above the running local boot scripts
[01:56] <tiptronic> Pelo, i'm dualbooting windows vista and ubuntu. i installed ubuntu 2day usin da alternate cd.
[01:56] <Fox[work] > um ubuntu install hasn't even started
[01:56] <Fox[work] > lol
[01:56] <Dr_Link> jrib: eh?
[01:56] <Smegzor> I have set up remote desktop access to my file server.  The problem is it is only good to go if I am already logged in on that machine.  I want to be able to get a remote desktop without being logged in in advance.  The server will have no monitor attached.  Does Ubuntu support this out of the box or so I need to hit the faq's and install another vnc server?
[01:56] <kitche> jrib:;;; thatw as actually one big post but since he copy pasted it split it up
[01:56] <Dr_Link> What did I repaste besides the bad DCC send request?
[01:56] <meoblast001> how do i kill synaptic?
[01:56] <Pelo> tiptronic, the password you are trying t use now , what is it for ?
[01:56] <jrib> Dr_Link: your dcc stuff
[01:56] <Fox[work] > no login screen no desktop like i read on the reviews
[01:56] <Pelo> Fox[work] , what is the video card on this computer ?
[01:57] <jrib> Dr_Link: yes, that.  Don't repaste it here again please
[01:57] <Fox[work] > Pelo: it has 2 video card
[01:57] <DWSR> Smegzor: Should, yes. You need to hook up your VNC to Linux's authentication daemon.
[01:57] <Fox[work] > s
[01:57] <HHP2K> meoblast001: Did you try the System monitor?
[01:57] <Dr_Link> M'kay. I was just wondering if that was INTENDED...
[01:57] <Dr_Link> >_>
[01:57] <DFM> Is the channel logged? If so where can I find the logs
[01:57] <meoblast001> HHP2K: yes i dont know which one it is
[01:57] <Pelo> Fox[work] , disable one , for the installation,  preferably leave one that is not  nvidia or ati , then try again
[01:57] <Fox[work] > Pelo: theres the onboard video card the trident cyberblade and an external pci one
[01:57] <DjViper> DFM: what are you looking for?
[01:57] <jrib> !logs > DFM (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:58] <jrib> !dcc > Dr_Link (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:58] <tiptronic> Pelo: its 2 authenticate the command on How to install wireless 1390 driver on this site-https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/1390?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:58] <pzn> I'm new to ubuntu... where is /etc/inittab? I need to add some lines to inittab (like mgetty for modem/serial lines that I use in debian)
[01:58] <Dr_Link> I didn't auto-accept the request.
[01:58] <Pelo> Fox[work] ,  for the instalation, leave the onboard enable and kill the other one, just for now and try again
[01:58] <Dr_Link> I had feeling it was enabled to autoaccept so I disabled that a few minutes ago.
[01:58] <Dr_Link> Lucky me. O_o
[01:58] <jrib> pzn: with upstart, it's replaced by /etc/event.d/*
[01:58] <ketrox> anyone kann point me to a good tutorial for burning m2t files to dvd ?
[01:58] <jrib> !upstart > pzn (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:58] <Smegzor> Ok.  My other problem I I have set up a shared folder and from boot I have network access to it, however it hasn't mounted.  I did add an entry in fstab.  What do I need to do to auto-mount at boot?
[01:58] <DFM> DjViper: Some post from the other night. I forgot to write down some info before closing the channel.
[01:58] <HHP2K> meoblast001: I'm not sure which one it is either :) Did you try just manually closing it in its window? Usually ubuntu recognizes a dead program and asks you if you wish to terminate it.
[01:59] <Pelo> tiptronic, then it should be your ubuntu password, I can't think of anyting else but let me check the site
[01:59] <DFM> jrib: Thanks
[01:59] <DjViper> DFM: hmm look in your irc clients log dir
[01:59] <meoblast001> HHP2K: its not dead its just taking forever to realize that this package has an error
[01:59] <pzn> jrib, thanks!
[01:59] <DFM> DjViper: I don't think I set that up
[02:00] <Fox[work] > Pelo: then after ubuntu is up i can install the PCI ati video card?
[02:00] <HHP2K> meoblast001: Did you try closing it by right-clicking its taskbar button?
[02:00] <jrib> pzn: might want to try #upstart too with exactly what you are trying to do if the docs don't help
[02:00] <Pelo> Fox[work] , exactly
[02:00] <JDLimbo> okay, the people over at #alsa directed me to a script for noobs that would give them all the information they need to help me out, but when I run it, I get a bunch of error messages
[02:00] <Pelo> tiptronic,  type here which command is giving you trouble so I can see
[02:01] <Fox[work] > Pelo: i'm not exactly sure how to turn off my onboard video, there isn't an option in the bios for it
[02:01] <meoblast001> HHP2K: yeah but its done now... im gonna clear my /var/cache/apt/archives and see if that fixes the error im getting
[02:01] <DWSR> JDLimbo: Can you paste the errors in the pastebin and give them the link?
[02:01] <tiptronic> Pelo: $sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[02:01] <tiptronic> $sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[02:01] <tiptronic> $sudo su
[02:01] <tiptronic> $sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:01] <tiptronic> $sudo shutdown -r now
[02:01] <jrib> !paste | tiptronic
[02:01] <ubotu> tiptronic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:01] <DWSR> !pastebin | tiptronic
[02:01] <Pelo> Fox[work] ,  just pull out the other one
[02:01] <DWSR> jrib: You beat me to it.
[02:01] <doctorow> I have about 100 MP3s that I want to concatenate into one file, numbered 001.mp3, 002.mp3, etc. I tried cat *.mp3 > bigfile.mp3, but some players (Amarok, for example) show the length of this long track as 4 minutes (the length of the first MP3) and stop playing at 4 min. Any ideas for concatenating these files?
[02:01] <jrib> JDLimbo: it's probably a good idea to pastebin the errors and show them
[02:02] <HHP2K> DWSR: Why didn't ubotu still post it? Does it recognize double requests now?
[02:02] <JDLimbo> okay
[02:02] <Pelo> tiptronic,  restart the computer normaly and try again
[02:02] <DWSR> HHP2K: Command throttle probably.
[02:02] <Pelo> tiptronic,  those command should use the regular user password
[02:02] <rabidsnail> I just installed feisty on my Macbook Pro 2.16ghz Core 2 duo, followed the directions on the wiki to get the video working (which were to install fglrx), and X doesn't start. Looking the X.0.log it looks like the problem is "drmGetBusid returned '' "
[02:02] <JDLimbo> !pastebin dillinger@WOTAN:~$ sh alsa-info.sh
[02:02] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 181: [[: not found
[02:02] <JDLimbo> ALSA Information Script v 0.4.30
[02:02] <JDLimbo> --------------------------------
[02:02] <JDLimbo> This script will collect information about your ALSA installation and sound related hardware, to help diagnose your problem.
[02:02] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 181: [[: not found
[02:02] <HHP2K> DWSR: Nice.
[02:02] <JDLimbo> By default, the collected information will be AUTOMATICALLY uploaded to a pastebin site.
[02:02] <JDLimbo> If you do not wish for this to occur, run the script with the --no-upload argument
[02:02] <JDLimbo> Do you want to run this script? [y/n]  : read: 181: Illegal option -e
[02:02] <JDLimbo> [: 181: y: unexpected operator
[02:03] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 187: [[: not found
[02:03] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 202: [[: not found
[02:03] <tiptronic> Pelo: all i do is insert da password and press enter, rite?
[02:03] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 297: [[: not found
[02:03] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 400: [[: not found
[02:03] <JDLimbo> alsa-info.sh: 431: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[02:03] <Pelo> !pastebin | jimbo
[02:03] <JDLimbo> dillinger@WOTAN:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:03] <ubotu> jimbo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:03] <JDLimbo>  0 [Intel          ] : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[02:03] <DWSR> =\
[02:03] <JDLimbo>                       HDA Intel at 0xdc440000 irq 21
[02:03] <DWSR> Ban him, please.
[02:03] <JDLimbo> guh dur
[02:03] <Pelo> tiptronic, yes when asked for it
[02:03] <HHP2K> Okay, does -anyone- know how to disable the entered/quit messages in gaim?
[02:03] <DWSR> thank you.
[02:03] <Ronald-> Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[02:03] <DWSR> !paste | JDLimbo
[02:03] <ubotu> JDLimbo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:03] <DjViper> HHP2K: /j #pidgin
[02:03] <Pelo> HHP2K, the ppl in #gaim probably do
[02:03] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to forward audio over ssh?
[02:03] <jrib> JDLimbo: try using bash instead of dash
[02:03] <DWSR> yurimxpxman: Not that I know of.
[02:03] <Geekosaur> Greeting and salutations, y'all
[02:04] <HHP2K> DjViper, Pelo: Thanks guys :)
[02:04] <Ahadiel> What's a good size for a / partition, I'm thinking of having a separate one for /home
[02:04] <DjViper> Ahadiel: 8gb+
[02:04] <jrib> JDLimbo: what is the first line in the script?
[02:04] <Pelo> Ahadiel, 5-10 gig
[02:04] <DWSR> Ahadiel: 8GB or more.
[02:04] <DWSR> Probably more.
[02:04] <DWSR> What's the size of your drive?
[02:04] <Geekosaur> Ahadie - what do you want to put in it?
[02:04] <Ahadiel> 160gb
[02:04] <JDLimbo> jrib: #!/bin/bash
[02:05] <xjkx> i have a userX that can sudo, but on /etc/sudoers userX isnt there ;o i have a userX that can sudo, but on /etc/sudoers userX isnt there ;o
[02:05] <Ahadiel> Geekosaur: Music, Videos, Games on /home
[02:05] <rabidsnail> yurimxpxman: I think VNC has audio. You could use that through a tunnel. If you just want audio you could use icecast through a tunnel.
[02:05] <jrib> JDLimbo: write "bash alsa-info.sh" then
[02:05] <Ahadiel> Geekosaur: I keep messing up my installs, and I hate having to transfer all my stuff over and over again.
[02:05] <jrib> JDLimbo: sh is dash by default on ubuntu
[02:05] <tiptronic> Pelo: still sayin authentication failure
[02:06] <thedash> what's the average size of a relatively new Feisty install ?
[02:06] <Pelo> Ahadiel, that's why most of us have a seperate partitons for /home
[02:06] <ztomic> que paso pelo con loco!
[02:06] <jrib> xjkx: is he in the "admin" group?
[02:06] <JDLimbo> jrib nice thankyou
[02:06] <Fox[work] > Pelo: i still get the console this time with lots of Segmentation faults
[02:06] <Pelo> tiptronic, you know you should be putting in those command one at a time right ?
[02:06] <Ahadiel> Pelo: :) also, I'll use jfs for my /home, but what should I use for /?
[02:06] <Dr_Link> squee: sudo apt-get install build-essential <--- Did that contain a C compiler along with a C++?
[02:07] <tiptronic> yes
[02:07] <xjkx> jrib: yes
[02:07] <jscinoz> hey guys, is it possible to mount a specific folder of an NTFS partition, on a specific ext3 folder?
[02:07] <vph> hey, while the speakers of my laptop are working the "front panel" jack is not working, anyone could help me out?
[02:07] <pzn> where is /etc/network/options in ubuntu (for enabling ip_forward configuration)?
[02:07] <Pelo> Ahadiel, ubuntu prefers ext3
[02:07] <DWSR> Dr_Link: Yep.
[02:07] <xjkx> jrib: how do i take him off
[02:07] <Ahadiel> Pelo: Then ext3 it is :)
[02:07] <jrib> xjkx: sudo deluser HIM admin
[02:07] <rabidsnail> Does anybody know what DRMGetBusid does?
[02:07] <Geekosaur> I am having an odd problem with OpenOffice Spreadsheets.  I used to have cell lines not appear when the cell contents expanded to the adjacent unused space.  That is not true any more.  Does anyone know how to repair it?
[02:07] <rapid> sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w returns  WPA: Key negotiation completed with 00:0f:cc:bb:0a:bc [PTK=CCMP GTK=TKIP] ..
[02:08] <ztomic> Pelo: thats an easy one; just sayin howdy
[02:08] <Pelo> Geekosaur,  try asking in #openoffice.org
[02:08] <xjkx> jrib: ok, i want to add him on sudo to execute only ONE command, like cp /x /y can i do that?
[02:08] <Dr_Link> Well, ehrm... alright. I'm going to go learn C now.
[02:08] <Pelo> ztomic,  are you a native spanish speaker ?
[02:08] <ztomic> Pelo: nope
[02:08] <jrib> xjkx: edit /etc/sudoers.  I don't know the syntax offhand, but the manpage for sudoers talks about it (man sudoers)
[02:09] <cafuego> rabidsnail: Off ahdn my guess would be it returns the pci bus id for the current videoc ard
[02:09] <vph> the speakers of my laptop are working but the "front panel" headphones jack is not working, anyone could help me out?
[02:09] <Pelo> ztomic,  so let's stick to english kthks
[02:09] <Fox[work] > Pelo: i still get the console this time with lots of Segmentation faults (core dumped), oh it sure took a large dump
[02:09] <ztomic> Pelo: hehe
[02:09] <xjkx> thanks
[02:09] <Beta-guy> what is the latest kernel Ubuntu has released?
[02:09] <Fox[work] > still no login screen
[02:09] <Pelo> Fox[work] , but does it keep going to deos it go further ?
[02:09] <thedash> hey all, what are you guys' root disk usage ?
[02:10] <Fox[work] > Pelo: no further stops at the same spot as before
[02:10] <Fox[work] > Pelo: this time lots of seg faults
[02:10] <DjViper> thedash: why do you ask?
[02:10] <thedash> mine seems overly large
[02:10] <TheimonAfk> thedash, about4GB
[02:10] <thedash> my Edgy install was like 2,5 GB, my Feisty is like 7 after a week
[02:10] <Pelo> Fox[work] ,  Fox[work]  try running the cd integrity check , if that it fine I don'T know
[02:10] <DjViper> about 5GiB here
[02:10] <rabidsnail> cafuego: Well, it's returning null.
[02:10] <Pelo> thedash,   3 of 10 gig
[02:10] <Fox[work] > Pelo: i checked the md5sum on the iso and it checks out fine
[02:10] <vph> the speakers of my laptop are working but the "front panel" headphones jack is not working, anyone could help me out?  :o
[02:11] <Pelo> Fox[work] ,  CD integrety is not hte same thing , you get it from the boot menu
[02:11] <cafuego> rabidsnail: wheee!
[02:11] <DjViper> thedash: check to see if anything is logging heavily :P
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> thedash: my music folder is bigger than that...lool
[02:11] <vph> i am sad :(
[02:11] <Lo_Pan> http://www.xensource.com/about/Pages/CitrixAcquisition.aspx
[02:11] <HHP2K> Pelo: I finally found out that Pidgin has a plugin that gets rid of join/leave notifications.. I am finally at peace.
 thedash: my music folder is bigger than that...lool <----mine too
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:11] <thedash> yeh, all my music and such is on another drive
[02:12] <TheimonAfk> currently@ 140GB...........so not that large
[02:12] <Pelo> HHP2K, so I guess you wonT' be using a real irc client , that 's too bad ;(
[02:12] <DjViper> Pelo: hehe
[02:12] <Pelo> gottago , later folks
[02:13] <HHP2K> Pelo: Well... IRC confuses me. o_o I wanted to use mIRC, but apparently you only get an evaluation? And I don't know of any other IRC clients. What's the benefit over Pidgin? Because I'm totally comfortable with it.
[02:13] <vph> the speakers of my laptop are working but the "front panel" headphones jack is not working. i wish i could make it work :(
[02:14] <HHP2K> vph: Is it a driver problem, or a hardware problem?
[02:14] <ztomic> HHP2K: whatever youre comfortable with. @ least you have a good OS.
[02:14] <HHP2K> ztomic: Agreed =D
[02:14] <Tu3sday> HHP2K, use xchat or irrsi
[02:14] <vph> HHP2K: i believe it has something to do with the configuration but i am not sure, the speakers work just fine
[02:14] <ztomic> <- XChat here
[02:14] <HHP2K> Now all I have to do is scrape up the money to buy myself a new HDD and some DDR and I can scrap this old junker PC and build my good one
[02:14] <vph> pidgin here
[02:14] <Spaz1331> Anyone know of a freeswan package for debian/ubuntu, or any other way to use my colleges IPSec or PPTP security layers on the wlan?
[02:14] <Dr_Link> I'm trying to change directories with pwd.
[02:14] <atoms2> is bitchx any good?
[02:14] <Tu3sday> pidgin doesn't do in-chat encryption like blowfish
[02:14] <Tu3sday> so :(
[02:15] <Dr_Link> pwd /home/tms/Desktop/
[02:15] <Beta-guy> the keneral I'm using is 2.6.20 but 2.6.22 is there a chance ubuntu will release an update?
[02:15] <Dr_Link> but whenever i type that it jumps to /home/tms/ instead.
[02:15] <ztomic> Beta-guy: yup
[02:15] <Dr_Link> (What the heck is going on)
[02:15] <Spaz1331> Dr_Link pwd is Print Working Directory... cd is change directory
[02:15] <Beta-guy> ztomic: do you know when?
[02:15] <Dr_Link> ...
[02:15] <ztomic> Beta-guy: nope
[02:15] <HHP2K> ... I was waiting for someone to say that.
[02:15] <HHP2K> XD
[02:16] <Dr_Link> Whoop de doo.
[02:16] <Dr_Link> Thanks.
[02:16] <Spaz1331> np!
[02:16] <ztomic> Beta-guy: whats the issue?
[02:17] <ztomic> another rare quiet moment!
[02:17] <jscinoz_> Hey guys, im on a dual boot vista+ubuntu system, i have 10gb of music stored in /media/vista/Users/Jack/Music, is it possible to mount this folder to /home/jack/Music, if so how
[02:17] <vph> i think i will come back another day
[02:17] <Beta-guy> the PS3 keep ejceting my discs some one compiled a kernel that reduces this issue but  I'm waiting for an official release
[02:17] <hsatera> is there any browser that runs in python?
[02:17] <h1st0> jscinoz_: first umount it then mount /media/vista/blah.... /home/jack/Music
[02:18] <Spaz1331> jscinoz_ should be doable with `ln -s <source> <dest>` or I might haVE SOURCE AND DEST REVERSED
[02:18] <ztomic> jscinoz_: how about a link?
[02:18] <jscinoz_> ill try linking
[02:18] <jscinoz_> one sec
[02:18] <h1st0> jscinoz_: a link might be a better option
[02:18] <Dr_Link> tms@tms-laptop:~$ cd /home/tms/Dekstop/Files
[02:18] <Dr_Link> bash: cd: /home/tms/Dekstop/Files: No such file or directory
[02:18] <h1st0> jscinoz_: instead of mounting to a users home
[02:18] <Dr_Link> Well, why'd that be?
[02:18] <jscinoz_> "hardlink not allowed to directory"
[02:18] <jscinoz_> for directory*
[02:18] <Fox[work] > hmmm i checked the ubuntu disc for integrity and it has errors in 120 files, how that happen i checked the md5sum before i burned it
[02:18] <Fox[work] > how strange
[02:19] <thedash> ah, that's what it was
[02:19] <Spaz1331> Dr_Link `mkdir -p /home/tms/Dekstop/Files`
[02:19] <rabidsnail> hastera: There are XULrunner (and by extension I assume gecko) bindings for python, if that's what you mean.
[02:19] <kevinh90_> Fox[work] , check md5 before AND after
[02:19] <ztomic> Beta-guy: d00de! I'm sorry but I dont feel ya on the sony thing.
[02:19] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi Pelo
[02:19] <h1st0> jscinoz_: rm  the /home/jack/Music folder first
[02:19] <jscinoz_> ah
[02:19] <Dr_Link> Spaz1331 The directory exists. I have the window open. I'm trying to compile it with gcc.
[02:19] <Dr_Link> well
[02:19] <kevinh90_> if your burner has the option, verify disk integrity
[02:19] <h1st0> jscinoz_: then try it ln -s /media/vista/blah /home/jack/Music
[02:19] <Dr_Link> compile a file in that diretory.
[02:19] <jscinoz_> still not allowed
[02:19] <astro76> Dr_Link, you spelled Desktop wrong
[02:19] <Dr_Link> ...XD
[02:19] <Dr_Link> Whoops
[02:20] <Beta-guy> ztomic: you a 360 user?
[02:20] <Spaz1331> Anyone know of a freeswan package for debian/ubuntu, or any other way to use my colleges IPSec or PPTP security layers on the wlan?
[02:20] <jscinoz_> wait i got it
[02:20] <astro76> Dr_Link, use tab completion it helps immensely
[02:20] <jscinoz_> thanks :)
[02:20] <h1st0> jscinoz_: np
[02:20] <jscinoz_> will this link persist over reboot?
[02:20] <Spaz1331> or -- what's that tool that makes a debian package from an rpm?
[02:20] <ztomic> Beta-guy: strictly computer. I don't game and I hate MS and the other demon called Sony.
[02:20] <h1st0> jscinoz_: should be
[02:20] <Dr_Link> If a directory has a space in it how do I reference to it when using the cd command?
[02:20] <h1st0> jscinoz_: if the mount isn't availible the link will be broken though
[02:21] <h1st0> Dr_Link: use the <tab> key for auto complete
[02:21] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi I just brought a 500 gig harddrive and I can't mount it. Gparted freezes when scanning it (after formatting) and the computer can't see the drive
[02:21] <jrib> Dr_Link: "dir with spaces" or use '' or escape spaces with \
[02:21] <jscinoz_> should always be available as its just another parition on the same disk, and is mounted via fstab
[02:21] <h1st0> Dr_Link: but you can represent it with \
[02:21] <Spaz1331> Dr_Link the \ escapes the whitespace for the shell
[02:21] <Dr_Link> Hah! I LOVE Linux.
[02:21] <Dr_Link> It's so picky.
[02:21] <h1st0> jscinoz_: yeap then link will work
[02:21] <Dr_Link> That's the fun of it.
[02:21] <Dr_Link> if an OS is never picky, where's the fun go?
[02:21] <Beta-guy> zomtic: I don't game that much I use the PS3 for watching blu-ray movies doing Folding@home and running linux
[02:21] <h1st0> Dr_Link: its not picky once you get used to it makes more sense than M$
[02:22] <h1st0> Dr_Link: give it a month and see how your views change.
[02:22] <Dr_Link> h1st0: Yeah, I grew up on DOS and the Win16 systems :P
[02:22] <yugi> Hey can anyone help me get Graw2 on ubuntu using wine?
[02:22] <ibook> Hi guys, new to Ubuntu...trying to partition my HD in the middle of installation....would appreciate some help :(
[02:22] <ztomic> Beta-guy: this is not the forum but I like the WII idea. Every since vid games, the most successful ones have been built around an imaginative interface... that's my take.
[02:23] <Boomh4u3r> omg.i am have a hella hard time installing flash on here...grrr!
[02:23] <jscinoz_> what does the -s flag do when linking?
[02:23] <Flannel> Boomh4u3r: It's in the repositories, just install the package
[02:23] <h1st0> Dr_Link: same here but I prefer nix now
[02:23] <yugi> can anyone help me with wine?
[02:23] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: It's not hard. 'sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree'
[02:23] <ztomic> Beta-guy: so you bought a game console to hack it?
[02:23] <h1st0> jscinoz_: symbolic
[02:23] <ibook> anyone willing to lend a hand to a newb...trying to partition my HD during installation
[02:23] <jscinoz_> and difference between symbolic and hard link?
[02:23] <Spaz1331> ibook you trying to dual-boot? you should "shrink" the windows partition from "manage computer" first I think
[02:23] <h1st0> jscinoz_: you can man ln to read some of the options
[02:23] <jrib> Boomh4u3r, cafuego: flashplugin-nonfree
[02:23] <ibook> i'm right in the middle of installing
[02:23] <jscinoz_> alright
[02:24] <cafuego> Er, yes.
[02:24] <Dr_Link> Yay for me, I just made a C program :O
[02:24] <Beta-guy> ztomic no it has built in support for linux
[02:24] <jrib> !flash > Boomh4u3r (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:24] <Boomh4u3r> let me try
[02:24] <cafuego> int main() { return 0; }
[02:24] <Spaz1331> what's that tool that makes a debian package from an rpm?
[02:24] <cafuego> Spaz1331: alien
[02:24] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, my new Seagate harddrive won't mount. can someone help pls?
[02:24] <Spaz1331> ibook do you have 10+ GB of free space?
[02:24] <Spaz1331> thanks cafuego!
[02:25] <Boomh4u3r> i put that command in the terminal correct?
[02:25] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: yup
[02:25] <ibook> anyone there?
[02:25] <Boomh4u3r> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree' <---- couldn't find package?
[02:25] <jscinoz_> I'm trying to set up the fingerprint reader on my M1330, i've installed bioapi, and pam_bioapi, and the Upek driver, however, when i run "BioAPITest" it returns "BioAPI Error Code: 12298 (0x300a)" any idea how i can fix this?
[02:25] <HHP2K> Dr_Link: rofl, all kinds of blonde moments tonight, eh? XD
[02:25] <Spaz1331> ibook -- do you have free space, 10+ GB?
[02:25] <h1st0> ibook: yes
[02:25] <rabidsnail> Does anybody know how to fix drmGetBusid returning null?
[02:26] <ztomic> Beta-guy: until it breaks. BTW blueray will die like betamax.
[02:26] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: flashplugin-nonfree
[02:26] <hoarycripple> how can I change my console font at boot time?  it does not want to draw any line characters and looks quite ugly
[02:26] <Dr_Link> HHP2K: XD Yeah. I can't seem to execute a.out after logging to the directory it is in.
[02:26] <Beta-guy> ztomic: Blu-Ray is dominating HD-DVD
[02:26] <Boomh4u3r>  flashplugin-nonfree command not found
[02:26] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:26] <rabidsnail> Beta-guy: HD-DVD will die just as horribly
[02:26] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:26] <Boomh4u3r> sorry,I'm just getting into ubuntu yesterday
[02:27] <HHP2K> Dr_Link: If I was more experienced, I'd help :)
[02:27] <Beta-guy> rabidsnail: why do you think both HD format will die?
[02:27] <Dr_Link> meh
[02:27] <rabidsnail> Beta-guy: The internets are the wave of the future
[02:27] <Boomh4u3r> Building dependency tree
[02:27] <Boomh4u3r> Reading state information... Done
[02:27] <Boomh4u3r> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:27] <Boomh4u3r> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:27] <Boomh4u3r> is only available from another source
[02:27] <Boomh4u3r> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate
[02:27] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: or you can use synaptcis in the system > Preferences > Synaptic    Menu to add packages
[02:27] <ibook> trying to create an OS (system) partition....it asks for partition type: Primary or Logical ?
[02:27] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: Open synaptic, emnabl universe and multiverse in the repositories.
[02:27] <HHP2K> !enter | Boomh4u3r
[02:27] <ubotu> Boomh4u3r: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:27] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list
[02:28] <rabidsnail> Beta-guy: Who wants to go to the store and buy a movie when you can have it streamed into your living room?
[02:28] <ztomic> rabidsnail: VOD! yup!
[02:28] <scipio> ibook, primary if it allows you
[02:28] <HHP2K> Or rather.. pastebin
[02:28] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: please, don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead.  flashplugin-nonfree is in the Multiverse repository.  Go to system -> administration -> software sources  and enable multiverse.  Ubotu sent you a link with easy instructions for installing flash that you should read
[02:28] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: ... and *please* don't paste onto the channel, use the pastebin instead.
[02:28] <ibook> then location for system partition....:"Beginning" or "End" ?
[02:28] <Boomh4u3r> sorry
[02:29] <ztomic> VOD=Video On Demand BTW
[02:29] <linux_user400354> I have 2 dual layer dvd burners and I want to use them both at once for burning. do I have to run 2 instances of k3b to do that?
[02:29] <Dr_Link> I used ls to make sure that I was in the right directory.
[02:29] <Beta-guy> rabidsnail: if we were to depend on the internet for our HD movies lag would be a pain  plus stopping ever 5 seconds to buffer would kill HD internet movie the bandwidth isn't fast enough yet
[02:29] <HHP2K> I love this place.. so different compared to the deviantart chat rooms. If a moderator is in there, you're not allowed to re-post the channel rules, the mods do that. And.. sometimes they don't.
[02:29] <nerwo> is Compiz not available through the add/remove programs window (meaning I must use synaptics or the good old apt-get way)
[02:29] <sirjoshimus> audour wont start for me
[02:29] <Rafaell> can't stat the server X, no screens found , what can i do for this ?
[02:29] <HHP2K> Here, people just jump on everyone
[02:29] <h1st0> linux_user400354: probably
[02:29] <Dr_Link> But after typing the program's name (a.out) nothing happened.
[02:29] <sirjoshimus> says JACK isnt there
[02:29] <sirjoshimus> but it is
[02:30] <Rafaell> can't start the server X, no screens found , what can i do for this ?
[02:30] <h1st0> Rafaell: what kind of video card do you hav?
[02:30] <pike_> Dr_Link: ./a.out  ?
[02:30] <Dr_Link> Yes.
[02:30] <Rafaell> ati radeon
[02:30] <h1st0> !patience | Rafaell
[02:30] <Dr_Link> I gcc compiled it.
[02:30] <ubotu> Rafaell: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:30] <h1st0> !ati | Rafaell
[02:30] <ubotu> Rafaell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <ztomic> Beta-guy: remember when 14.4 KB was fast?
[02:30] <Dr_Link> But the problem? It tells me "no such command"
[02:30] <HHP2K> Rafaell: Get to the command line and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:30] <Sensae> Hello
[02:30] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:30] <Dr_Link> So... what's up here? I can't execute it.
[02:30] <Beta-guy> ztomic: thought 2400 baud was fast at one point
[02:30] <RootyRootRootWoo> Hi, my new Seagate harddrive won't mount. can someone help pls?
[02:30] <Boomh4u3r> ok i enabled universe and multiverse
[02:30] <h1st0> Dr_Link: do you have gcc installed?
[02:31] <ztomic> Beta-guy: Damn!  youre older than me!
[02:31] <Pici> Dr_Link: is it set as an executable, chmod +x a.out?
[02:31] <Smegzor> I'm following an ubuntu newbie guide for mounting a shared folder at boot.  It mentions having a local shared folder in /media (mine is called shared).  However when I try to mount to /media/shared it tells me it is not a block device.  Should I just mount in /mnt or should /media work?
[02:31] <Beta-guy> lol
[02:31] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: now use synaptci and add flashplugin-nonfree
[02:31] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[02:31] <Sensae> I have a TrendNET PCI gigabit ethernet card, and Trendnet supplies source for drivers, but I'm not sure how to compile them / get them working. Could someone help
[02:31] <rabidsnail> Beta-guy: No bandwidth isn't fast enough in the US yet. Most people don't watch movies in HD either.
[02:31] <Dr_Link> h1st0: How do you think I made the executable?
[02:31] <Dr_Link> :P
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Guys!
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> I have found something SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cool
[02:31] <ibook> If I want to create the OS partition, should I choose "Use as:" ext3, ext2, reiserfs, or......???
[02:31] <Pici> Smegzor: Sounds like you're reversing the device and the mountpoint in your mount command.
[02:31] <Dr_Link> Pici: Well it says in the file manager it's executable
[02:31] <Fox[work] > What is the point of this Long Term Support iso? compared to the original iso?
[02:31] <Drk_Guy> Wanna know what?
[02:32] <HHP2K> Yes, yes!
[02:32] <Pici> ibook: ext3
[02:32] <Falstius> ibook: ext3 is the most common
[02:32] <Rafaell> but i have tryed this, at the 1 moment the screen turn black, at 2 moment i have downloaded the driver, and now cant find the screens, the busID
[02:32] <pike_> Dr_Link: can you pastebin the text.c ??
[02:32] <h1st0> ibook: thats up to you but I would use ext
[02:32] <HHP2K> Is it ice!?
[02:32] <Smegzor> Possible. I am a newbie afterall :)
[02:32] <Dr_Link> The .c file?
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> HHP2K: A human Theme for....
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> WINDOWS
[02:32] <hoarycripple> ok, well, i think that the line drawing error is because of utf-8 locales.  how can I change that?
[02:32] <Pici> Smegzor: I'm not and I do it all the time :)
[02:32] <Boomh4u3r> its not there
[02:32] <Dr_Link> or the terminal output?
[02:32] <cafuego> Dr_Link: Yeah, go on, be opn source ;-)
[02:32] <Smegzor> you were right
[02:32] <HHP2K> ... nice!
[02:32] <Smegzor> I am a dummy :P
[02:32] <pike_> ibook: i use ext3 for / and home usually and xfs for /tmp
[02:32] <madman91> i installed a cli version of ubuntu.. how do i make it turn on network interfaces at boot?
[02:32] <h1st0> Rafaell: lspci | grep VGA
[02:32] <lashmoove> if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:32] <Dr_Link> It's a simple hello world program.
[02:32] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:32] <Drk_Guy> Wanna have the link?
[02:32] <HHP2K> are the taskbars the same height?
[02:32] <ztomic> Beta-guy: I used to put the handset in a cradle to  connect to UT mainframe when I took Basic in high school. It was probably slower than 2400. 1979.
[02:32] <Dr_Link> I'm learning C remember?
[02:32] <h1st0> Rafaell: you can get the busid
[02:33] <Sensae> Could anyone help me compile this driver I have into a module?
[02:33] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list
[02:33] <Dr_Link> It's a printf("Hello World"); return 0; program. That's all there is in the main function.
[02:33] <Drk_Guy> http://fioressj.deviantart.com/art/Human-for-Windows-37743373
[02:33] <nerwo> fax[work]  LTS receives support for 3 years, the other one only till the next ubuntu release (schedules for october)
[02:33] <Rafaell> how can i edit the fglrx driver ?
[02:33] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list - why is that happening? how else can i add programs to start at startup?
[02:33] <Pici> !offtopic | Dr_Link
[02:33] <ubotu> Dr_Link: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:33] <Pici> Dr_Link: Sorry, that was to Drk_Guy
[02:33] <cafuego> Dr_Link: You know you can shorten that app? :-)
[02:33] <chump> can someone help me get root on my computer please ? i got a syntax error on my sudoers file :S
[02:33] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:33] <cafuego> Dr_Link: return printf("Hi world\n");
[02:33] <Dr_Link> cafuego: That's not my problem, but I'll ask later.
[02:34] <Beta-guy> ztomic I was born in 1983 if you were in high school in 1979 your older then me
[02:34] <Dr_Link> ...mmm...
[02:34] <Dr_Link> Anyway.
[02:34] <StarQuest>  running ubuntu 7.04.  at random times, the system will freeze for a second or two.  it just sort of "catches" momentarily, then goes back to working normally.  any idea?
[02:34] <astro76> nerwo, Fox[work]  non-LTS is actually supported for 18 months I believe
[02:34] <cafuego> Dr_Link: if you have 'manpages-dev' installd, they contain manuals for the libc api.
[02:34] <pike_> chump: boot into recovery mode and 'passwd root' then reboot. then you can set about fixing sudoers
[02:34] <HHP2K> Human theme for windows is hitting digg... now
[02:34] <ztomic> Beta-guy: I'm old enough to be your daddy.\
[02:34] <Dr_Link> ...I just want to run the a.out program it just compiled!! >_>
[02:34] <ibook> what's this business of "Primary" vs "Logical" for partition type, and "Beginning" vs "End" for location??? I have no clue...I'm from the Windows (Dark) side
[02:34] <buntunub> StarQuest try running without beryl/compiz
[02:35] <cafuego> Dr_Link: ./a.out
[02:35] <StarQuest> buntunub: i'm not running either of those
[02:35] <Dr_Link> mmmk...
[02:35] <h1st0> StarQuest: maybe check dmesg or /var/syslog see whats goign on when it freezes
[02:35] <Dr_Link> Sweet, it worked.
[02:35] <matty_1> Hi - I cannot get WPA working on my 7.04 Laptop - I have followed the steps in the wiki and still cannot see my WPA network - can anyone assist?
[02:35] <Sensae> Anyone know how I could compile this driver's source into a module? It errors out when I do make clean modules
[02:35] <Dr_Link> Be back later.
[02:35] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:35] <Pici> StarQuest: You could keep a terminal with top running open or keep gnome-system-monitor open to see if something is spiking the CPU at those times
[02:35] <cafuego> have fun :-)
[02:35] <pike_> ibook: you can only have 4 primary partitions. linux will work on logical partitions but windows wont i think.  just bear the limit in mind if youre planning on alot of OSs installed
[02:35] <chump> ok thanks pike_ boot or a login in failsafe will do ?
[02:36] <jcs7778> is there a way to configure toutch pads on laptops?
[02:36] <atoms2> I just altered xorg.conf how dow I restart the x server?
[02:36] <Smegzor> I now have my shared mounted /media/shared but when I reload fstab I get "you specified and invalid share name"
[02:36] <StarQuest> Pici: when i've got the system monitor open, it doesn't ever do it
[02:36] <scipio> ibook, if that partition is for an OS to boot from you'd want it to be primary
[02:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> OK, I still have a very stubborn SD Card that won't let me a) reformat it because of an error when I gpart it saying "set partitiontype" b) doesn't automount itself and therefore isn't mountable or unmountable and c) that shows up only under /dev/sdb1 and not under /media.... What do I do?
[02:36] <Pici> StarQuest: hmm.. thats very odd
[02:36] <h1st0> !patience | Beyond_The_Grave
[02:36] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: have you tried unmounting it before gpart?
[02:36] <ubotu> Beyond_The_Grave: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:36] <luddite> Hey all - I have a G3 mac powerbook with only functioning usb. it can connect to the internet via cable modem fine. but i cant connect it via the usb to my windows / ubuntu dual boot desktop and share the internet between the two(i want the desktop to be the master)
[02:36] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes, like I said it isn't mounted and it can't get mounted for some reason.
[02:36] <pike_> chump: i dunno. i think failsafe is just a single user shell so that will let ya enable root so you can reboot and su instead of sudo until you get it fixed.  after its fixed just sudo passwd -l root  to disable the account again
[02:37] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: what's not there?
[02:37] <h1st0> luddite: you need to connect it via lan or wifi
[02:37] <chump> ok
[02:37] <cafuego> luddite: I'm pretty sure net-ovr-usb isn' a normally supported thing
[02:37] <cafuego> luddite: via firewire would work, but not usb.
[02:37] <lashmoove>  if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:37] <Boomh4u3r> flashplugin-nonfree....its not coming up when i search for it in synaptic
[02:37] <Smegzor> the start of my fstab line for this is //192.168.2.20/shared      /media/shared   The share is mounted ok.  How is this invalid?  There is more to the fstab entry of course.
[02:37] <luddite> ah ok - firewide and ethernet dont function on the old G3
[02:37] <pike_> chump: once ya got root just come back here and pastebin the sudoers file somone here can correct it for ya
[02:38] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: make sure it's not mounted.
[02:38] <hoarycripple> do i need to install non-UTF-8 locales?  or are they installed by default?
[02:38] <StarQuest> cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[02:38] <ztomic> hehe
[02:38] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: did you install the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[02:38] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: you need to enable universe and multiverse
[02:38] <Beyond_The_Grave> It isn't.
[02:38] <StarQuest> does this mean anything?
[02:38] <Boomh4u3r> that is enabled
[02:38] <jk-> hey folks
[02:38] <chump> pike_:  thanks but i know what i did wrong ;)
[02:38] <jrib> !who | Boomh4u3r
[02:38] <ubotu> Boomh4u3r: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:38] <Beyond_The_Grave> But how do i check that real quick.
[02:38] <luddite> I guess i will need a router then huh
[02:38] <Boomh4u3r> um..i believe this is the amd64 version
[02:38] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: Did you hit the 'refresh' button in synaptic after you enabled them?
[02:38] <matty_1> Anyone know a good program to extract rar files on ubuntu
[02:38] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: #mount
[02:38] <cafuego> Boomh4u3r: Ah ok, there is no amd64 flash.
[02:38] <jk-> anyone know of ubuntu repos for cross gcc packages ?
[02:38] <h1st0> Boomh4u3r: then there is no flashplugin-nonfree
[02:38] <jrib> !rar > matty_1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:38] <Smegzor> Should I unmount the share before reloading fstab?
[02:39] <matty_1> cheers
[02:39] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope.
[02:39] <matty_1> Hi - I cannot get WPA working on my 7.04 Laptop - I have followed the steps in the wiki and still cannot see my WPA network - can anyone assist?
[02:39] <jvai> i hate tmobile wifi... well, in this starbuks anyways
[02:39] <K3nto> !sh
[02:40] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[02:40] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: you could try fdisk
[02:40] <jrib> Boomh4u3r: if you are new to ubuntu, you should use the regular version of ubuntu because a lot of the proprietary stuff is going to be a hassle for you.  For flash on amd64, Adobe doesn't really care and no one else can do anything about it
[02:40] <K3nto> how do i start an sh file?
[02:40] <Moniker42> hey, i tried to add a couple of startup apps to system > prefs > sessions but when i close the window they are removed from the list - why is that happening? how else can i add programs to start at startup?
[02:40] <cafuego> K3nto: sh ./file.sh
[02:40] <ibook> crap, just got an error while using the "Guided - resize" HD option...
[02:40] <h1st0> K3nto: ./ or bash
[02:40] <pike_> Boomh4u3r: the only compelling reason for 64bit is geeky pride or a real need for a single process to address more than 4 gig ram
[02:40] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ok, it shows up there.
[02:40] <jrib> Moniker42: what does this command return: ls -ld ~/.config ~/.config/autostart/
[02:40] <ibook> Error dialog box says "Resize operation failure"
[02:40] <n2diy> K3nto: type its name, if you are in the same directory, us ./filename, qsl?
[02:41] <Moniker42> jrib, drwx------ 7 sean sean 4096 2007-03-22 23:35 /home/sean/.config
[02:41] <Moniker42> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-13 21:22 /home/sean/.config/autostart/
[02:41] <Beyond_The_Grave> Now what?
[02:41] <jrib> Moniker42: run this as sean: sudo chown $USER: ~/.config/autostart/
[02:41] <pike_> K3nto: also you can open the file in a text editor the the first line will have a #!/ if it says bash or whatever you can do bash file.sh
[02:42] <Smegzor> I fixed my fstab problem.  I had moved my share from /mnt to /media and not recreated the share in system/admin/shared folders.
[02:42] <K3nto> i get this error: Where would you like to install the Vendetta executable? [/root/bin]  read: 70: arg count
[02:42] <K3nto> /root/bin does not exist!
[02:42] <K3nto> Create it? [yn]  read: 70: arg count
[02:42] <K3nto> ill pastebin next toime sorry
[02:42] <dethdeks> hey tomb
[02:42] <dethdeks> :P
[02:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Hey ztomic, it showed up in fdisk... what do I do?
[02:42] <rob_1311> anyone here got any experience with a wiimote and ubuntu
[02:42] <matty_1> Hi - I cannot get WPA working on my 7.04 Laptop - I have followed the steps in the wiki and still cannot see my WPA network - can anyone assist?
[02:42] <xeer> hi guys, i have what i hope to be a simple question.. running feisty fawn with the nonfree ati driver for my X1600. beryl is installed along with xgl, no problems there. the problem is that beryl isnt active even though i've logged in through my beryl session
[02:42] <Beyond_The_Grave> Matty what kind of card do you have?
[02:43] <pike_> !lrda | rob_1311
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lrda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <Moniker42> jrib, sure about that?
[02:43] <Moniker42> jrib, i've had a couple of bad experiences with chown is all...
[02:43] <pike_> !IrDA | rob_1311 heh
[02:43] <ubotu> rob_1311 heh: Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[02:43] <saimon> bon je commence a en avoir marre
[02:43] <tatsujin> would anyone have a clue what could be the problem with my beryl?
[02:43] <jrib> Moniker42: ~/.config/autostart/ is currently owned by root, it's supposed to be owned by your user (sean)
[02:43] <saimon> pourquoi c'est pas simple avec ati :)
[02:43] <Moniker42> saimon, !fr
[02:43] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: you want to format it to fat32 right?
[02:43] <Moniker42> !fr | saimon
[02:43] <ubotu> saimon: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:44] <lashmoove>  if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> Yes.
[02:44] <explody> I've got a usplash theme that is complaining about "no usable theme for 640x480" when I shut down, except the system is at 1024x768, and the same theme works fine on startup.  does this sound like a system problem or a theme problem?
[02:44] <rob_1311> actually the my problem is with the input driver?
[02:44] <tatsujin> i should mention i had it working fine on edge, once i updated to feisty fawn my beryl stopped working
[02:44] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: do you need anything that's on it now?
[02:44] <seanj_> does anyone know how I get TCL development files so I can build an eggdrop?
[02:44] <Beyond_The_Grave> Nope.
[02:44] <Moniker42> jrib, okay it works now
[02:44] <scipio> tatsujin, did you enable desktop effects?
[02:44] <jrib> seanj_: eggdrop is in ubuntu's universe, no need to build it
[02:44] <Moniker42> jrib, thanks. sorry for the suspicion but i had to do a reinstall after someone told me to chown /var ;)
[02:44] <seanj_> jrib: great, thanks!!
[02:45] <jk-> seanj_: why build it when you can just 'apt-get install eggdrop' ?
[02:45] <Beyond_The_Grave> Just please don't say gparted, cause I've tried and it doesn't work.
[02:45] <rexbron> is anyone else unable to access cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[02:45] <jk-> snap
[02:45] <jrib> Moniker42: np, it's good to ask.  You should be wary of recursive things because those are almost impossible to undo
[02:45] <tatsujin> scipio: that would happen to be under what option?
[02:45] <pike_> rob_1311: i wouldnt be much help with that. id check in #mythtv-users maybe im sure they have alot of exp
[02:45] <seanj_> jk-: I forgot to do my homework!
[02:46] <seanj_> jk-: I should have searched first
[02:46] <scipio> tatsujin, system-preferences-desktop effects
[02:46] <matty_1> can anyone give me a link on the wiki to help setup my soundcard (i have a hp pavillion laptop running 7.04)
[02:46] <jk-> 'apt-cache search' is your friend :)
[02:46] <lashmoove> anyone?.... if I install a .deb from getdeb while I am in a kernel, when I reboot into another kernel, will that app be exactly the same?
[02:46] <Beyond_The_Grave> Ztomic, you going to tell me how to do it?
[02:46] <SEppl> im bored.. is there any channel in this network i should check out? :D
[02:46] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: doh! fat16
[02:46] <pike_> SEppl: #politics
[02:46] <tatsujin> scipio: yes, desktop effects is enabled
[02:47] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: delete the partition.
[02:47] <n2diy> lashmoove: that would depend on the app, and the kernel.
[02:47] <MC2TS> I can't get ubunto to install-AMD 64 250gig hd (clean ntfs format) 1 gig ram ....the install program keeps locking up (new to unbunto)
[02:47] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: then create a new fat16
[02:47] <Beyond_The_Grave> I LOVE YOU ZTOMIC! IT WORKED FINALLY!!!!
[02:47] <marrvel> hi, does anyone know what uinput is in here?
[02:47] <Beyond_The_Grave> AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:47] <lashmoove> n2diy: so i should save myself the guess work, and jump back into the RT kernel and install songbird, install here in the generic kernel
[02:47] <ztomic> Beyond_The_Grave: you still need to format it.
[02:47] <Beyond_The_Grave> I did.
[02:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> That's why I'm happy.
[02:48] <Flannel> lashmoove: it'll be same-ish.  What you do on one kernel sticks around for any other kernel, if that's what your asking.  But the kernel itself might cause differences
[02:48] <ztomic> ok. now be sure to always eject that stick before you pull it out.
[02:48] <scipio> tatsujin, i don't know then sorry. maybe someone else knows or you can try in the other channels. #ubuntu-effects
[02:48] <pzn> how can I configure a grub menu option to boot ubuntu in runlevel 3? already tried "3" at end of boot options but it still boots at runlevel 2. using feisty
[02:48] <Moniker42> jrib, finally i can add mail-notification to startup and stop checking my inbox obsessively
[02:48] <marrvel> hi, does anyone know what uinput is in here?
[02:48] <matty_1> Hi, I cant get my sound working on my HP Pavillion Laptop - Can anyone help me or send me to a link?
[02:48] <Beyond_The_Grave> I did, it was so weird one minute it worked, the next it didn't.... Don't know why...
[02:48] <slowriot> I just tried to install a windows network card driver using ndiswrapper. Now, when I try to boot up, configuring network interfaces causes a soft crash. How do I get Ubuntu working again? I'm using Fesity Fawn.
[02:48] <n2diy> lashmoove: I'm not familiar with Songbird, but if you can afford to exeriment, go for it. But make sure your important stuff is backed up.
[02:49] <dethdeks> what version of hp lappy u got matty?
[02:49] <dethdeks> u may have to do some of ur ubuntu updates
[02:49] <dethdeks> thats what i had to do with mine
[02:49] <lashmoove> flannel: k thanks
[02:49] <matty_1> dethdeks - I've got a hp pavillion zx5000 - what updates did you have to do?
[02:49] <dethdeks> i dont member off hand but just run ur updates
[02:50] <matty_1> ok
[02:50] <dethdeks> n it should fix it
[02:50] <dethdeks> sorry couldnt be more pasific
[02:50] <ztomic> I like the pacific
[02:50] <MrAndrews> Does anyone in here play battlefeild 2142 for 7.4?
[02:50] <matty_1> hmm - yeah - I don't think its that my update manager is up to date - thanks for the help though
[02:51] <at0miku> Hmm I'm having a lot of trouble with samba
[02:51] <scipio> !sound
[02:51] <at0miku> Anybody who knows quite a lot who I can msg?
[02:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:51] <at0miku> (Because this is probably going to take a while)
[02:51] <ztomic> as opposed to specific
[02:51] <Firebird> I'm running Compiz Fusion but it uses gtk-window-decorator instead of emerald. Using emerald --replace makes the borders disappear; what can I do?
[02:52] <at0miku> meh nvm
[02:52] <n2diy> lashmoove: I'm not familiar with Songbird, but if you can afford to exeriment, go for it. But make sure your important stuff is backed up.
[02:52] <paotzu> what version of ubuntu should I use for quad xeon intel, the amd64 one?
[02:52] <theo_> why is my desktop on a cube disabled?
[02:52] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[02:52] <kim__> hey what is gksudo? is it now command?
[02:52] <ztomic> Firebird: I have those problems on cards that dont have enough vid memory.
[02:52] <paotzu> and does dual quad xeon board work?
[02:52] <pzn> found! I have to change /etc/event-d/rc-runlevel to recognize "3" at boot parameters and boot at runlevel 3
[02:52] <luddite> thanks all
[02:53] <luddite> have  fun
[02:53] <luddite> gotta go now.
[02:53] <ztomic> l8r
[02:53] <MC2TS> I can't get ubunto to install-AMD 64 250gig hd (clean ntfs format) 1 gig ram ....the install program keeps locking up (new to unbunto)
[02:53] <Firebird> ztomic: unfortunately, it's a pretty recent pc with an NVidia EN7600 256MB card :s. Thanks for the suggestion though.
[02:53] <DARKGuy> hey guys, I'm tired of having to back up my data everytime I reinstall Ubuntu. I have a 40Gb purely for Ubuntu. I'm a gamer, programmer, tinkerer, hacker, etc., is 30Gb for ~ and 10Gb for / good?
[02:53] <dsl800> hi I'm trying to move stuff onto my ubuntu computer, does anyone have experience with ftp or smb?
[02:54] <jrib> pzn: note that runlevels 2-5 are all the same by default on ubuntu
[02:54] <cloudless_ruin> anybody here
[02:54] <rapid> dsl800: what about ftp
[02:54] <Firebird> cloudless_ruin: just ask your question :)
[02:54] <scipio> Firebird, some suggestions for your problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=367850
[02:54] <Firebird> thanks scipio, I'll check it out :)
[02:54] <cloudless_ruin> i dont have a question
[02:54] <DARKGuy> lol
[02:54] <dsl800> rapid, I'm not sure how to use it. I want to transfer a directory and all it's contents recursively
[02:55] <cloudless_ruin> wait, yeah i do, are there 1066 users in this channel alone?
[02:55] <Firebird> cloudless_ruin: in that case: no, we're all hiding :D
[02:55] <lynn> #radeon
[02:55] <dsl800> rapid, I'm using smb, but it has the same interface as ftp aparently
[02:55] <ztomic> hehe
[02:55] <cloudless_ruin> wait this is a support channel? my volume is too low
[02:55] <cloudless_ruin> the max i mean
[02:55] <zorg> hello, im new to ubuntu, im just using automatrix at the moment, should i let it unmount my NTFS hard drives and remount them withwritable partitions, id there any chance this could cause me to lose any data on them?
[02:56] <dsl800> !automatix
[02:56] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[02:56] <DARKGuy> okay I'm not a hacker j/k but at least tell me if in the future the 10Gb will end up short for root / Ubuntu?
[02:56] <cloudless_ruin> i don't let linux mess with ntfs accept to read
[02:56] <scipio> zorg, if you don't intend to write anything on your ntfs partition then forget then don't make them writeable
[02:56] <ztomic> DARKGuy: 10 gig will be short in the future.
[02:57] <dsl800> zorg: aside from automatix screwing up, that's a safe thing to do
[02:57] <cloudless_ruin> so how to i increase the max volume?
[02:57] <zorg> ok for safety ill not let it do it for now, cheers :)
[02:57] <pike_> DARKGuy: i normally use between 2 and 5 gigs for / but i keep /home on a sep partition.
[02:57] <ipx1> Hi -- I am still having difficulty hooking up my linksys card to this distro.  Anyone here using a Linksys PCMCIA card?  If so, can you help me connect it?
[02:57] <Firebird> I was going to say 6-7 GB is more than enough enough :). I mean if you put home on a separate partition
[02:57] <Firebird> -enough
[02:57] <w4ett> ubotu: give it a rest
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about give it a rest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <dsl800> who knows how to use ftp?
[02:57] <tatsujin> one last question i've been wondering about.. in my beryl manager i never have the grab option to bind mouse events.. could it be my mouse is not recognized?
[02:57] <ipx1> dsl800: I do.
[02:57] <ztomic> I only said what he asked me to say!
[02:57] <theo_> why is my desktop on a cube disabled?
[02:57] <pike_> dsl800: ?
[02:57] <Firebird> dsl800: are you trying to use the command-line ftp client? or do you want a graphical client?
[02:58] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I see - pike_: yeah, I'm trying to do that but since I use beryl and development apps and games (ut2004, wow, regnum), etc. I don't want to be left with no space on / after I've messed so much with my system... 15Gb for / and the rest for home sounds good then?
[02:58] <DARKGuy> Firebird: ^
[02:58] <dsl800> ipx1: how can I transfer a whole directory with it/
[02:58] <matty_1> Hi, I am having trouble getting my sound card to work on 7.04 - I have a HP Pavillion zx5000 laptop - can anyone assist?
[02:58] <rapid> mget?
[02:58] <w4ett> ubotu: funny
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <ipx1> dsl800:  you have to go inside the directory and use mpget.
[02:58] <ipx1> er..mget
[02:58] <dsl800> Firebird, I'm on dsl linux and command line seems to be all they have
[02:58] <ipx1> example:  mget *
[02:59] <ipx1> You got it?
[02:59] <dsl800> it's actually smb but I think the same commands work
[02:59] <dsl800> ipx1 I'll try it
[02:59] <ipx1> ok
[02:59] <ipx1> btw that is a generic command.
[02:59] <seanj_> ugh, search for files dosnt work
[02:59] <ipx1> are you dl/ing to linux or windows?
[02:59] <ztomic> DARKGuy: depends on partitioning.
[02:59] <Tu3sday> matty_1, do 'lspci | grep audio'
[02:59] <dsl800> ipx1 I thought the * was a wildcard
[02:59] <ipx1> it is...
[03:00] <Firebird> DARKGuy: yeah, sounds reasonable unless you install ut/wow/etc on your home partition of course (if you're the only user)
[03:00] <ipx1> * is covering everything.
[03:00] <erika14212> i guess ill be running ubuntu in 6 weeks
[03:00] <dsl800> ipx1 it's from dsl linux to ubuntu linux
[03:00] <ipx1> ok.
[03:00] <ipx1> linux 2 linux....
[03:00] <ipx1> You're okay.
[03:00] <matty_1> Tu3sday: I recieved: 00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[03:00] <dsl800> ipx1 maybe smb isn't the best way to go, but it's the first thing I got to kind of work
[03:00] <theo_> why are my desktop effects not working?
[03:00] <Firebird> erika14212: why in only 6 weeks? :)
[03:00] <ipx1> dsl800:  the best way to do this is with generic commands.
[03:00] <erika14212> no burner so it takes 6 weeks to get one cd
[03:00] <DARKGuy> ztomic: ext3? - Firebird: nobody uses this PC, they don't understand Linux at home XD. Well I guess I won't have much problems then :P
[03:00] <ipx1> dsl800:  use the mget *
[03:00] <BENN92647> flash player 9 is completely screwed up on all my browsers. but my rythmbox works...so its definetly something wrong between flash player and its ability to see my sound output device...can someone help me with this
[03:00] <ipx1> that will take everything.
[03:00] <Firebird> DARKGuy: hehe k :)
[03:01] <ipx1> dsl800: got it?
[03:01] <dethdeks> peece
[03:01] <erika14212> in meantime
[03:01] <lynn> does any one know what dev packages i need to build and install the open source ati driver?
[03:01] <dethdeks> #quit
[03:01] <erika14212> im on windows
[03:01] <Tu3sday> matty_1, so first things first, you've completely ruled out the possibility of the volume being too low right? :p
[03:01] <Firebird> erika14212: my condolences :)
[03:01] <ztomic> DARKGuy: is everything on root partition?
[03:01] <DARKGuy> lmao
[03:01] <dsl800> ipx1: I don't seem to be able to cd to the directory though. I'm at the smb: \> prompt
[03:01] <erika14212> bought one cd
[03:01] <ipx1> ?
[03:01] <erika14212> never got it
[03:01] <ipx1> try chdir
[03:01] <Firebird> wait, bought? you can have them sent for free
[03:01] <matty_1> Tu3sday: correct - volume is up full in alsamixer and not muted
[03:01] <firewing1> Is there an easy way to see who maintains a package?
[03:01] <erika14212> i need it now
[03:01] <erika14212> im on dsl
[03:02] <firewing1> I'm lokoing for the maintainer of fwbackups
[03:02] <ipx1> dsl800: oh wait....you should be able to cd ...
[03:02] <ipx1> dsl800: how is the directory listed?
[03:02] <dsl800> ipx1, how do you list the directory? I'm trying to cd /mnt/hda1
[03:02] <n2diy> firewing1: check the readme file in the package.
[03:02] <erika14212> i just dont feel safe on xp
[03:02] <ipx1> dsl800: ls
[03:02] <firewing1> n2diy. problem is I use Fedora
[03:02] <ipx1> dsl800: dir works also.
[03:02] <DARKGuy> ztomic: nah, I'm about to reformat the whole HD, the whole linux screwed up last night, it won't even go past the gdm screen, I get a nasty error with a .dmrc file I've chmodded and chowned as much times as you can imagine. I have my data backed up so yeah you can say everything is on the root partition, because it's also the only one except swap.
[03:03] <Firebird> erika14212: you'll be pretty safe with all updates installed and a decent firewall/av scanner
[03:03] <DARKGuy> ztomic: in fact, I'm from the liveCD atm.
[03:03] <dsl800> ipx1, ah, ls shows that I am inside the share on the other computer
[03:03] <ipx1> dsl800: :)
[03:03] <n2diy> firewing1: so, there should still be a readme file in the package.
[03:03] <Firebird> erika14212: and if you don't do anything... dangerous
[03:03] <dsl800> ipx1: so maybe I should use mget?
[03:03] <erika14212> how do i track myy request
[03:03] <Tu3sday> matty_1, what does 'aplay -l' throw back? use pastebin if necessary
[03:03] <ipx1> I would think so...yep.
[03:03] <erika14212> i wud love to know when they get here
[03:03] <dsl800> alright, so can I do mget /mnt/hda1/* ?
[03:03] <Aminowana> hi
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: :) yes.  mget *
[03:04] <erika14212> anyone in western new york
[03:04] <firewing1> n2diy, I mean maintains the package for the repositories... I'm the maintainer of the actual software ;)
[03:04] <matty_1> Tu3sday: i'll continue this in PM
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: type "bin"
[03:04] <Aminowana> b
[03:04] <Pici> !enter | erika14212
[03:04] <ubotu> erika14212: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: make sure you're not in ascii mode.
[03:04] <dsl800> command not found :(
[03:04] <ipx1> dsl800: type "bin"
[03:04] <ztomic> DARKGuy: shoot! that problem is fixable.
[03:04] <dsl800> ipx1, it says command not found
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: try "binary" -- these are generic commands btw
[03:05] <DARKGuy> ztomic: oh, really? xD
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: no no....you have to do it in ftp first.
[03:05] <erika14212> im in buffalo ny
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: if you use the generic command....
[03:05] <ztomic> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=546104
[03:05] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I'm tired of having to backup my data anyways :/ having stuff in a ~ partition and just formatting / sounds like a good idea, I've heard that lots of times in this channel
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: from INSIDE ftp....
[03:05] <Mr56k> Do they have a date for Gutsy yet? Or still just sometime on October
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: type in
[03:05] <newbie2> how to change a file permission to user nobody and group nobody?
[03:05] <ipx1> dsl800: bin
[03:05] <Pici> Mr56k: Sometime in october,
[03:06] <dsl800> ipx1: I'm doing that, it says command not found
[03:06] <ztomic> DARKGuy: google is your friend
[03:06] <erika14212> cause i wud pay shipping for ubuntu
[03:06] <postmortymn> mmm... oktober. gutsy, leopard.. :)
[03:06] <n2diy> firewing1:  whoever builds the package would normally include a readme file, if they don't, your out of luck I guess?
[03:06] <erika14212> for two cds
[03:06] <dsl800> "smb: \>
[03:06] <leafw> any way to use windows' applications that need a key (stored in the register) from within ubuntu, if such apps are not installed in ubuntu but in a windows partition?
[03:06] <dsl800> bin: command not found"
[03:06] <Pici> firewing1: You are trying to find a maintainer for an ubuntu package?
[03:06] <leafw> I can run them with wine, but then the app can't find the serial key
[03:06] <ipx1> dsl800: I don't have an idea of it not switching it, but take a chance and use the command.  Otherwise, you may have to install a different daemon.
[03:06] <pike_> dsl800: type help
[03:06] <DARKGuy> ztomic: yeah, I went across that thread too, I tried using 700, 755, 644, 664, the thing with username:username, with /, with /*, with no /... no luck :(
[03:06] <firewing1> Pici, yes... for `fwbackups'
[03:06] <dho_ragus> i'm having a weird sudo problem on feisty
[03:07] <erika14212> or onei have paypal
[03:07] <ipx1> dsl800: pike_ has a point.  There should be an equal command under smb.
[03:07] <dsl800> pike_, gives a list of commands but bin isn't one of them
[03:07] <ShackJack> leafw: Better to reinstall under wine...
[03:07] <dsl800> what is bin supposed to do?
[03:07] <dho_ragus> when i do sudo anything it just returns a prompt
[03:07] <ipx1> dsl800: the bin switches your dl from ascii to binary.
[03:07] <travis_> I dont need any kind of virus scan or spyware programs right?
[03:07] <dho_ragus> never seen anything behave like this before...
[03:07] <erika14212> guess not
[03:07] <ipx1> dsl800: this program must automatically do it.
[03:07] <dho_ragus> well... not anything other than feisty.
[03:08] <leafw> ShackJack : problem is, CDs are 7000 km away in my home university ...
[03:08] <Mr56k> So I installed the KDE desktop and along with it came all the KDE apps etc.. So I tried to use package manager to remove KDE which it did. But almost all the apps are still left over in my menu and they work still. Is there a command I can run to get rid of all KDE and Apps. Im back to using Gnome solely.
[03:08] <ShackJack> leafw: Regardless... ;)
[03:08] <ztomic> DARKGuy: the easy way would be to create a new user and copy.
[03:08] <dsl800> ipx1: I hope so
[03:08] <erika14212> no linux supports
[03:08] <Pici> firewing1: Are you sure thats the package name?
[03:08] <erika14212> boot from floppy
[03:08] <ShackJack> travis_: Nope - though you can get virus scanning, but they mostly scan for Windows viruses so you don't inadvertantly pass along...
[03:08] <ipx1> dsl800: Good luck.
[03:08] <dsl800> ipx1: I'll try doing "mget /mnt/hda1/* now I guess
[03:08] <travis_> awsome thank you
[03:08] <Pici> !install | erika14212  read this, I believe it does
[03:08] <ubotu> erika14212  read this, I believe it does: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:08] <dsl800> I'll report how it goes
[03:08] <erika14212> i wud donetwork install
[03:08] <pike_> Mr56k: remove some of the qt libs id say. youll also lose k3b but you can reinstall things like that
[03:08] <leafw> ShackJack : no seriously, I don't even have the serials with me; I thought I could just run them -they run, but then complain about lack of serial and run in demo mode.
[03:08] <ztomic> DARKGuy: don't reinstall because of that.
[03:09] <ShackJack> Mr56k: Did you remove kubuntu-desktop or just kde?
[03:09] <leafw> ShackJack : I even exported/imported the entire registry, but to no avail
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[03:09] <firewing1> Pici, yes... I develop it
[03:09] <dsl800> ipx1: should I use mget or "recurse" to get everything
[03:09] <erika14212> not sure if anyone does
[03:10] <firewing1> Pici, http://www.diffingo.com/content/view/12/47/lang,en/
[03:10] <ipx1> dsl800: I recommend mget....
[03:10] <Mr56k> well I was running Ubuntu and used snyaptic to install KDE desktop. So i used snyaptic to uninstall and KDE desktop is now uninstalled but all the KDE apps are still there and show up in my Gnome
[03:10] <erika14212> it would be nice
[03:10] <dsl800> ipx1: ok
[03:10] <ahmadsaifan> im trying to install avant windows navigator, I get stuck after the sudo apt get install command, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:10] <ipx1> dsl800: I am not familiar with recurse.
[03:10] <ahmadsaifan> some one help
[03:10] <techII> ok, i have a built in microphone on my laptop that doesn't work
[03:10] <Pici> firewing1: So you are trying to get it added to the ubuntu repositories?
[03:10] <techII> i plug one in, and it works, but it produces a lot of static
[03:10] <erika14212> can i use iso buster
[03:10] <techII> trying to use the build in one only produces static
[03:10] <dsl800> ipx1: it says NT_STATUS_OBJECT_PATH_NOT_FOUND listing \/mnt/hda1/*
[03:10] <firewing1> Pici, either that but I was reading on Google that apt-get would pull it in... So I figured it was already there
[03:10] <erika14212> to read the ubuntu iso
[03:11] <ipx1> dsl800: what's with the other slash \ ?
[03:11] <dho_ragus> anybody having sudo problems with feisty?
[03:11] <pike_> Mr56k: i dont know if the handling for metapages has changed but normally my approach is to remove a common dependancy like qt then it also marks for removal anything that depends on the lib
[03:11] <erika14212> there has to be a way
[03:11] <pike_> er metapackages
[03:11] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[03:11] <dsl800> ipx1: I don't know how it got there, all I typed was mget /mnt/hda1/*
[03:11] <Mr56k> pike: so how would I do that?
[03:11] <Ktasiwa> why is ubuntu recognizing my ide hard drives as hda1 and hda2?
[03:11] <ipx1> dsl800: that's odd....
[03:11] <Ktasiwa> er, *not
[03:12] <Ktasiwa> it loads them as /dev/sda1
[03:12] <ipx1> dsl800: try the slashes in the other direction.
[03:12] <barnball> can anyone help me with this:  Error in command callback Can't locate auto/Xmms/Remote/get_playlis.al in @INC
[03:12] <Ktasiwa> not hda1
[03:12] <dsl800> ipx1: ok
[03:12] <Pici> firewing1: I dont see it in the repos. You can search here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:12] <dho_ragus> erika14212: what are you trying to do?  just mount an ISO?
[03:12] <erika14212> or is it nt possible
[03:12] <barnball> CPAN is installed, and xmms::remote, but doesnt seem to want to work
[03:12] <ahmadsaifan>  im trying to install Avant windows navigator, but i get stuck after the sudo apt get install command, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:12] <ahmadsaifan>  PLEASE SOME ONE HELP
[03:12] <DARKGuy> ztomic: sorry, had an unexpected family matter some minutes ago. Well, I tried making a new user and I got the dreaded .dmrc error too
[03:12] <Pici> !patience | ahmadsaifan
[03:12] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:12] <DARKGuy> ztomic: so I'm out of ideas :/
[03:12] <pike_> Mr56k: search synaptic for like qt lib  or something then mark for complete removal. i havent used synaptic much but id say thatll be equivalent to a apt-get remove
[03:12] <cdbaric> Why is ubuntustudio.org dead for over a week?
[03:12] <travis_> hey for some reason in fire fox i have white fonts and i cant read anything help plz also in liek amsn
[03:12] <dsl800> ipx1:similar error, this time listing \mnt\hda1\*
[03:12] <travis_> running ultimate
[03:13] <erika14212> is it possible
[03:13] <DARKGuy> ztomic: it was a fairly new reinstall which I made yesterday so I'm not losing much xD
[03:13] <ipx1> dsl800:  try the second plan.
[03:13] <firewing1> Pici, do you have experience with RPM-based systems?
[03:13] <ipx1> dsl800:  go into that directory ... do it that way.
[03:13] <dho_ragus> erika14212:  it is possible to view the contents of an ISO, yes.  and copy/read
[03:13] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: don't worry about it... is it a SATA hd?
[03:13] <cobaltcopy> hello all
[03:13] <ahmadsaifan>  im trying to install Avant windows navigator, but i get stuck after the sudo apt get install command, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:13] <ahmadsaifan>  PLEASE SOME ONE HELP
[03:13] <erika14212> cant the iso be copied to partion
[03:13] <DARKGuy> !caps ahmadsaifan
[03:13] <Ktasiwa> Firebird: no, it's IDE
[03:13] <cobaltcopy> I'm having a rather large problem with apache2...it doesn't install properly
[03:13] <Ktasiwa> which is why I'm wondering
[03:13] <Pici> firewing1: not in many years
[03:14] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan, I think there is a deb package on the avant side
[03:14] <Pelo> site
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> also, if /dev/sa1 is the IDE hd
[03:14] <ahmadsaifan> What are you talking about?
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> then what is the /dev file for my USB hd?
[03:14] <n2diy> ! caps | ahmadsaifan
[03:14] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> which ubuntu didn't autodetect
[03:14] <erika14212> there has to be a way
[03:14] <dho_ragus> erika14212: the ISO can be mounted as if it were a real partition, then you can do whatever you like with it in r/w fashion
[03:14] <firewing1> Pici, k... Well thanks for the help! I'm going to install Ubuntu to a spare drive now so I can get used to apt....
[03:14] <ahmadsaifan> how will that help me? what is a deb file
[03:14] <ipx1> dsl800:  working that way?
[03:14] <Ktasiwa> on my other system sda1 is for USB hard drives
[03:14] <Mr56k> pike: There is several things that show up when i search for that "are installed" can I mess something up if I remove something im not suppose to?
[03:14] <Pici> firewing1: Okay, good luck!
[03:14] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: type sudo fdisk -l to see a list of hard drives and partitions :) it should be in there if it's detected
[03:14] <erika14212> r/w fasion
[03:15] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: It's like an install file...
[03:15] <barnball> ahmadsaifan, a debian install file
[03:15] <dsl800> ipx1:it won't cd
[03:15] <ahmadsaifan> I dont see it
[03:15] <Pici> !enter > erika14212 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> ahmadsaifan: how long have you been using ubuntu?
[03:15] <ahmadsaifan> Link to it please?
[03:15] <ipx1> dsl800:  you'll have to do it manually.
[03:15] <Pelo> ahmadsaifan,  sorry it's not a deb it 's repos you install it with apt-get   http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Ubuntu+Feisty+Repository?t=anon
[03:15] <ahmadsaifan> for maybe a week
[03:15] <barnball> can anyone help me get xmms::remote goin?
[03:15] <pike_> Mr56k: yeah. but just commit to it. dont hesitate thats no way to live :)
[03:15] <ipx1> dsl800:  from terminal.
[03:15] <travis_> hey for some reason in fire fox i have white fonts and i cant read anything help plz also in liek amsn
[03:15] <tracer903> i got ubuntu 7.04 and it will not detect my usb flash drive
[03:15] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Avant+Window+Navigator
[03:15] <travis_> running ultimate
[03:15] <ipx1> dsl800:  from there, you can use the commands I mentioned before.
[03:15] <dsl800> ipx1:alright I'm in another terminal
[03:15] <Ktasiwa> ah, thanks Firebird
[03:15] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: yw :)
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> so i wasted my whole time using this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385981
[03:16] <Mr56k> pike_: right lol haha....
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> tracer903: what filesystem is it formatted it in?
[03:16] <Ktasiwa> I had no idea that command existed :)
[03:16] <ipx1> dsl800:  another?  I thought you were using a program....
[03:16] <thedash> is there a way to leave Evolution running in the tray or something ?
[03:16] <turbolover> hey guys
[03:16] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: No, not a waste...
[03:16] <Pelo> tracer903, it should does it detect and mount your cds alright ?
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[03:16] <dsl800> I can't scroll up I'm in a termial version of irc
[03:16] <turbolover> has anyone had a problem with pentium d's or abit brand motherboards?
[03:16] <ipx1> dsl800:  no no...I mean your actual shell.
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> what do i do with your link shackjack
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> ahmadsaifan: just might have been a better way to do it...lol
[03:16] <Cufaf> hi who can help me abouth WNE programs
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> run those 6 commands?
[03:16] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Download deb and double click to install...
[03:16] <tracer903> I have to manually mount my cd's
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> 8*
[03:16] <erika14212> can the person try an im me
[03:16] <ShackJack> Cufaf: Check out #winehq
[03:16] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[03:17] <n2diy> thedash: minimize it?
[03:17] <ahmadsaifan> let me try
[03:17] <ztomic> DARKGuy: new goal for you is: "learn how to fix problems without reinstalling"
[03:17] <ipx1> dsl800:  get the idea?
[03:17] <dsl800> I'm using the command line version of sm
[03:17] <erika14212> no
[03:17] <ahmadsaifan> 32 or 64 bits?
[03:17] <dsl800> what do you want me to run in the other terminal?
[03:17] <Cufaf> ShackJack,  ty
[03:17] <ipx1> dsl800:  ok....you know how to access the terminal screen under the "system" tab?
[03:17] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Depends on what version ubuntu you have..
[03:17] <erika14212> yur documentation dont answer the quester
[03:17] <tracer903> IndyGunFreak: fat32 I think
[03:17] <dsl800> I'm in it
[03:17] <ahmadsaifan> I think im 32
[03:17] <Mr56k> pike_: right lol haha....\\
[03:18] <dsl800> i'm in the terminal
[03:18] <dsl800> what command should I run?
[03:18] <ipx1> dsl800:  where are the files?
[03:18] <ahmadsaifan> god, there was that link the whole time
[03:18] <ahmadsaifan> is it easy to use?
[03:18] <tracer903> Pelo: cd's have to be mounted in the terminal
[03:18] <ipx1> dsl800:  (the ones you're trying to get)?
[03:18] <MrAndrews> Can anyone tell me how I would go about opening BAttlefeild 2142 in Ubuntu 7.4 to run it
[03:18] <Mr56k> pike_:  I found the right one. It said in the description that removing this removes all KDE dependencies etc. Also all the programs it was gona use were the KDE apps. Thanks alot!
[03:18] <MrAndrews> ?
[03:18] <dsl800> ipx1: the files I want to transfer are in /mnt/hda1 on this computer (dsl)
[03:18] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Prolly - check their site for docs I imaginge, but most ppl like it...
[03:18] <dsl800> I want to put them on the ubuntu computer
[03:18] <erika14212> so now back  to question
[03:19] <pike_> Mr56k: np
[03:19] <ipx1> dsl800:  ok -- ftp loopback...
[03:19] <dsl800> unknown host
[03:19] <ahmadsaifan> i wish someone showed me that link before
[03:19] <ipx1> dsl800:  ftp to your computer's IP ... assuming you're on a router.
[03:19] <ahmadsaifan> i wasted time and effort and memory
[03:19] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I always try that, I hate reinstalling >.< I've tried all I've could: creating new users, trying chmod/chowns, deleting everything in ~... all I could do was to log in failsafe terminal and I could start Beryl and Emerald. gnome-panel and gnome-session hanged. nautilus worked after 3 minutes of launch on an xterm and gnome never started, not even from failsafe, not even from gnome-session through an xterm. No error messages either. "dmesg | tail" o
[03:19] <ahmadsaifan> A LOT OF MEMORY
[03:19] <dho_ragus> dsl800, what are you trying to do?  copy files?
[03:19] <Pelo> tracer903, I thought you were using gui,  don'T know about hte terminal much but the usb flash should mount automaticaly to /media just like the cds that's why I was asking , anything special about your flash drive , ? special fs or smething maybe, ?
[03:19] <ShackJack> !enter | ahmadsaifan
[03:19] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:19] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I'm out of ideas :(
[03:20] <j0nas`> when will gcc 4.2 finally be available in the repositories?
[03:20] <erika14212> can i use iso reader to install ubyntu
[03:20] <ztomic> DARKGuy: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/usersubuntu.shtml
[03:20] <Pelo> !install | erika14212
[03:20] <ubotu> erika14212: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:20] <dho_ragus> erika14212: yes, you can.  try alcohol or daemontools in windows
[03:20] <dsl800> dho_ragus, rescue files from a computer with only a floppy drive
[03:20] <ahmadsaifan> installation has finished
[03:20] <dho_ragus> dsl800: take the floppy disk out of the drive to rescue them.
[03:21] <ahmadsaifan> wow, wasted my last 2 horus trying to install
[03:21] <xjkx>  How do i configure my linux to root be allowed to open graphical softwares in users' X?
[03:21] <dsl800> ipx1: ftp loopback didn't work
[03:21] <ShackJack> erika14212: I think you actually have to burn to disk to install... Or use wubi to install from within windows..
[03:21] <dho_ragus> dsl800: hah, just kidding... you're trying to copy from the internal hdd to the floppy?
[03:21] <IdleOne> xjkx: use sudo
[03:21] <ahmadsaifan> now where do i find it?
[03:21] <astro76> !gksudo | xjkx
[03:21] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Nothing is a waste if you learn from the experience ;)
[03:21] <ubotu> xjkx: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[03:21] <dsl800> dho_ragus, files are too big for a floppy
[03:21] <IdleOne> xjkx: or better yet use gksu to run GUI
[03:21] <dsl800> dho_ragus, I'm transfering from one hard drive to the other
[03:21] <techII> ok, anyone have a clue about why my microphone picks up static under linux, and not windows?
[03:21] <ahmadsaifan> how do i disable my normal panel?/??
[03:21] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: See docs... you prolly have to start avant-whatever and/or add to you session startup programs...
[03:21] <dho_ragus> dsl800: well, back in the day we used `tar --tape-length` to split files between tapes...
[03:21] <xjkx> astro76: IdleOne I am using sudo, gksu wont help because i need NOPASSWD thing
[03:22] <dho_ragus> dsl800: same works for floppies
[03:22] <ahmadsaifan> i have it working
[03:22] <ahmadsaifan> but the normal dock is still on
[03:22] <dsl800> dho_ragus, I'm about to give up and use aim even though it's a million times slower
[03:22] <ShackJack> !enter | ahmadsaifan
[03:22] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:22] <regeya> wow, things like !enter make me think of freenode #debian
[03:22] <xjkx> Its a script, if i do gksu /bin/example it will prompt something, not directly open
[03:22] <ztomic> hehe
[03:22] <ahmadsaifan> Shackjack, i do i disable the lower panel, cuz the avant panel is on top of it
[03:23] <dsl800> dho_ragus, lol but I think I prefer sending them through a network
[03:23] <ztomic> debian buttholes
[03:23] <techII> dsl800, know how to use netcat?
[03:23] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: drag it to the top - you'll prolly need it for other stuff...
[03:23] <erika14212> where do i find wubu
[03:23] <ahmadsaifan> what?
[03:23] <Pici> !wubi | erika14212
[03:23] <ubotu> erika14212: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:23] <dsl800> techII, no, what does it do?
[03:23] <Ktasiwa> how good is ubuntu support for writing to NTFS partitions?
[03:23] <ahmadsaifan> then i have black line at the bottom
[03:23] <dho_ragus> dsl800: nah, use tar --tape-length=...
[03:24] <techII> it sends data piped to it over the network
[03:24] <astro76> xjkx, what does it do?
[03:24] <dho_ragus> dsl800: not sure what that length needs to be though...
[03:24] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I tried the .dmrc solution in that link to, both creating a new user and creating a new user after deleting my current one
[03:24] <erika14212> wubi
[03:24] <DARKGuy> *too
[03:24] <ahmadsaifan> nevermind, it  just part of my backround
[03:24] <Pici> Ktasiwa: Pretty good, I havent heard of anyone having issues in quite a long time, since it went stable
[03:24] <erika14212> where do i find it
[03:24] <smallfoot-> when you handwash clothes like boxers and socks, do you use hot or cold water?
[03:24] <ShackJack> !prefix | ahmadsaifan
[03:24] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[03:24] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: if you install ntfs-3g (that's not linked to Ubuntu in any way) you can get decent enough ntfs write support
[03:24] <Pici> !offtopic | smallfoot-
[03:24] <ubotu> smallfoot-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:24] <xjkx> astro76:  I have a script that is ran by sudo, but it uses Xdialog, and it refuses to open my Xdialog because it uses X ;/
[03:24] <ShackJack> erika14212: Google ;)
[03:24] <erika14212> can some im me
[03:24] <smallfoot-> thanks
[03:24] <techII> ive only used it for small files though
[03:24] <Pici> !wubi > erika14212 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:24] <ahmadsaifan> shackjack: how can i edit Avant?
[03:24] <zatoichi> hoola
[03:24] <Ktasiwa> Firebird: I'm on the live CD, though
[03:24] <smallfoot-> erika14212, you are a girl, you know how to wash clothes
[03:24] <ahmadsaifan> like skins and stuff
[03:24] <smallfoot-> please help me
[03:24] <zatoichi> buenas
[03:25] <Ktasiwa> I don't want to dl anything if I can help it
[03:25] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Drag icons to it, etc... check out their documentation...
[03:25] <DARKGuy> !spanish | zatoichi
[03:25] <ubotu> zatoichi: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> not icons
[03:25] <zatoichi> uasap man
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> i mean skins
[03:25] <zatoichi> XD
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> and other options
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> like the way it acts
[03:25] <xjkx> astro76: the script itself needs to be ran by sudo, because it checks if a directory exists, and the user CANT list it manually
[03:25] <dho_ragus> dsl800: ah, easy.  tar --tape-length=1000 -f /mnt/floppy ~/
[03:25] <ztomic> DARKGuy: take the easiest route.
[03:25] <dho_ragus> dsl800: or whatever
[03:25] <ubuntuEdgy> hi guys i have a strange issue with ssh. when i run nautilus the nautilus windows shows up the pc i have ssh-ed into  make sense ?
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> and how can i my my top panel transparent?
[03:25] <Firebird> Ktasiwa: unless you download it I'm afraid you don't have ntfs write support in there. Maybe you can try a rescue cd instead?
[03:25] <erika14212> i tried cooperative ;inux
[03:25] <astro76> ahmadsaifan, please don't use enter..., you're scrolling the screen like crazy
[03:25] <ahmadsaifan> lol
[03:25] <dho_ragus> dsl800: it'll ask you for the next "tape" when it's done writing that one disk.
[03:25] <DARKGuy> ztomic: I can't even load that users-admin panel, it hangs like the other gnome apps :S
[03:25] <Ktasiwa> eh, well, I'll do it if I have to
[03:26] <tracer903> /dev/hda5: UUID="fd46e7ab-f179-4dab-a7db-a8fd38259223" TYPE="swap"
[03:26] <tracer903> /dev/hdb1: UUID="162E-1AE3" TYPE="vfat"
[03:26] <tracer903> /dev/sda1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="3870-2C23" TYPE="vfat"
[03:26] <dho_ragus> dsl800: swap the floppy out, take it to the other machine and dump the disk while you're writing another floppy.  easy as pie.
[03:26] <BENN92647> if I am going to install flash player linux beta 2 do i need to remove beta version one first?
[03:26] <yanger> does ubuntu have a program to cache and locate all images and display a thumbnail of them like picasa? i've tried picasa via apt-get, but after a while, it hangs
[03:26] <ahmadsaifan> Shackjack, how can i skin it?
[03:26] <dsl800> dho_ragus, I just don't want to shuffle them around and it's like 4 gigs
[03:26] <dsl800> total
[03:26] <astro76> yanger, there is f-spot
[03:26] <ShackJack> ahmadsaifan: Already answered you... go see docs or avant site...
[03:26] <dho_ragus> dsl800: oh.
[03:26] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[03:27] <dsl800> what I should really do
[03:27] <ahmadsaifan> peace out
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: take the hard disk out?
[03:27] <ShackJack> yanger - F-Spot does that...
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: use IP over serial?
[03:27] <dsl800> is figure out how to write to the usb drive I'm booting off of
[03:27] <yanger> oooo ok
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: what are you booting from?
[03:27] <Pelo> tracer903, I'm pretty sure that your flash diver is /dev/sda1  so in the terminal first make a mount point    sudo mkdir    /media/Flash    then  moun it with   sudo mount /dev/sda1  /media/Flash
[03:27] <dho_ragus> dsl800: and do you not have a network?
[03:27] <dsl800> dho_ragus, usb flash drive running dsl, and I have a network
[03:28] <dho_ragus> dsl800: so why not hook both your computers to the network and do it that way?
[03:28] <techII> dsl800, http://www.linux.com/articles/114093?theme=print has some info about netcat
[03:28] <BENN92647> has anyone in here fixed the sound problem with linux and flash player? if so can you do a walkthrough with me on how you got it to work?
[03:28] <yurimxpxman> what's the mouse device name?
[03:28] <dho_ragus> dsl800: or why not boot from a livecd and then write to the usb disk?
[03:28] <dsl800> dho_ragus, that's what I've been trying with ipx1, but we have no idea how to do it
[03:28] <dsl800> and the cd drive is broken
[03:28] <h1st0> dsl800: what are you trying to do?
[03:28] <dho_ragus> yurimxpxman: it's different depending on your system.  try /dev/mouse
[03:28] <dsl800> it's an old computer
[03:28] <erika14212> who is small foot
[03:28] <techII> make sure to do a md5sum on the archive
[03:28] <zatoichi> somebody install cdemu??? sorry hello
[03:28] <dho_ragus> dsl800: you can't take the hard disk out?
[03:28] <dsl800> h1st0, send files over a network
[03:29] <avis> how do i check the integrirty of a ext3 drive ?
[03:29] <erika14212> wats the light weight verion of ubuntu
[03:29] <dho_ragus> dsl800: or install a new hard disk in it?
[03:29] <h1st0> dsl800: and the problem is?
[03:29] <slowriot> I just tried to install a windows network card driver using ndiswrapper. Now, when I try to boot up, configuring network interfaces causes a soft crash. How do I get Ubuntu working again? I'm using Fesity Fawn.
[03:29] <dho_ragus> avis: fsck
[03:29] <Pici> erika14212: xubuntu
[03:29] <astro76> yurimxpxman, it might be in /dev/input/
[03:29] <at0miku> whats the date/time in america now? (central)
[03:29] <dsl800> dho_ragus, It's screwed in there pretty tight, I plan to take it out eventually but I'd rather backup the riles in case I break it trying
[03:29] <Pelo> tracer903, I'm thinking it might be possible it is not automouting because automount uses the label as a temp mountpoint  and you'r doesn'T have a label
[03:29] <h1st0> slowriot: rmmod ndiswrapper or uninstall the driver you used.
[03:29] <h1st0> slowriot: what type of card do you have?
[03:29] <techII> avis, the usual fsck
[03:29] <dho_ragus> at0miku: www.time.gov
[03:29] <Pelo> tracer903, but that is just a guess
[03:29] <dsl800> it's an old compaq, put together kinda weird
[03:29] <at0miku> dho_ragus: thanks
[03:29] <dr_loaf> at0miku: 8:31, august 15
[03:29] <dr_loaf> pm
[03:30] <dho_ragus> dsl800: well, i definitely recommend using a network.
[03:30] <at0miku> hmm thanks
[03:30] <slowriot> h1st0: I have a F5D8001
[03:30] <at0miku> damn I dont get payed till tomorrow >_<
[03:30] <h1st0> slowriot: isn't that a broadcom chip.  Like some sort of belkin or something.
[03:30] <dsl800> h1st0, I don't know how to send files over a network. scp didn't work and I don't know any other way
[03:30] <Pelo> tracer903, I suggest you check in the forum for info on usb flash not mounting ,  at least now hyou know it is not the flash that is the problem
[03:30] <yanger> hmm. but with f-spot, you have to import the images to a folder?
[03:30] <slowriot> h1st0: yeah, it's a Belkin
[03:30] <h1st0> dsl800: just mount a share and put them there would be another way.
[03:30] <techII> dsl800, see the article?
[03:30] <dho_ragus> dsl800: what did scp say?
[03:30] <h1st0> slowriot: you may be able to just use the firmware fromt he card instead of playing around with ndiswrapper
[03:31] <dho_ragus> dsl800: i definitely recommend rsync over scp.
[03:31] <erika14212> ok
[03:31] <dsl800> h1st0, said ssh wasn't installed correctly or something
[03:31] <dho_ragus> dsl800: scp is in place of cp, but rsync is made for syncing whole trees of data.
[03:31] <Pelo> tracer903, might be worth clean instaling someting got borked
[03:31] <slowriot> h1st0: hmm... how would I do that?
[03:31] <erika14212> does wubi use fat partion
[03:31] <h1st0> dsl800: just mount the network share and just cp the files to the folder sync and umount it.
[03:31] <dsl800> h1st0, I'm trying that now, but it only has the command line version of smb and I don't know how to use it
[03:31] <dho_ragus> dsl800: i'd say get ssh working.
[03:32] <h1st0> slowriot: you have to rip the frimware from a files on the windows driver disk then just place it in /lib/firmware/<kernelversion>
[03:32] <dho_ragus> dsl800: once you have ssh working, it's as easy as `rsync --partial --progress ~/  remotecomputer:~/backup/`
[03:32] <h1st0> slowriot: reboot after removing allt he ndiswrapper garbage and it should work.
[03:32] <Pelo> tracer903, no need to use /notice to talk to me all the time just typing my nick is enought I will notice it,  I only use /notice when I want to say something private
[03:32] <h1st0> slowriot: if you search the forums for fwcutter you should find some documentation on it.
[03:32] <h1st0> !fw-cutter
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fw-cutter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <dsl800> dho_ragus, ssh is kind of working, let me try  it again
[03:32] <tracer903> Pelo Ok, thanks
[03:32] <slowriot> h1st0: okay, thanks
[03:33] <slowriot> here I go
[03:33] <Pelo> tracer903, you can make a launcher to speed up your mount so you wont, have to type it in the terminal
[03:33] <h1st0> slowriot: np much easier solution i've been happier with it now that I use that instead of ndis
[03:33] <DARKGuy> oh well
[03:33] <dsl800> dho_ragus, alright I am able to ssh into the remote computer
[03:33] <tracer903> Ok
[03:33] <h1st0> dsl800: then scp should work
[03:33] <h1st0> dsl800: or sftp
[03:33] <dho_ragus> dsl800: ok, then do it like this...
[03:34] <qiyong> is there any good webmail? i use postfix+dovecot.
[03:34] <dho_ragus> dsl800: rsync -e ssh -az --partial --progress  /path/you/want/to/backup  remotepc:~/backup/
[03:34] <dho_ragus> dsl800: if it gets messed up, just do that command again and it'll pick up where it left off.
[03:34] <dsl800> should I log out of ssh and do that? or do it logged in to the remote computer
[03:35] <dho_ragus> qiyong: roundcube is rad
[03:35] <dho_ragus> dsl800: do that from the pc you want to back up
[03:35] <dsl800> dho_ragus, thanks! here goes
[03:35] <dho_ragus> *sigh*  now if i could just solve this stupid feisty sudo problem....
[03:35] <vendeta> blah i need help
[03:36] <Pelo> dho_ragus,  what stupid fiesty sudo problem ?
[03:36] <dho_ragus> sudo isn't working.  just returns the next line
[03:36] <dho_ragus> `sudo whoami` returns nothing
[03:36] <techII> dho_ragus, qiyong, ditto with roundcube
[03:36] <Pelo> dho_ragus,  are you logged in as root by any chance ?
[03:36] <vendeta> can some one help me?
[03:36] <dho_ragus> Pelo: it DID work... not sure when it stopped, but it was some time while i was sitting at this terminal.
[03:36] <dho_ragus> Pelo: nope
[03:36] <Pelo> vendeta,  if you want help ask a question
[03:36] <techII> !ask
[03:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:37] <techII> !question
[03:37] <vendeta> lol ok
[03:37] <cobaltcopy> hello again
[03:37] <vendeta> uhh second need to figure out how to say my question
[03:37] <newbie2> i cant authenticate using ncsa_auth on squid
[03:37] <newbie2> help please
[03:38] <vendeta> im doing this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[03:38] <dsl800> dho_ragus, erg, could you paste that command again? sorry
[03:38] <Pelo> vendeta,  I am not opening any loinks until I know what it is about , what are you trying to do ?
[03:38] <vendeta> 5. Compile ndiswrapper:
[03:38] <vendeta> Code:
[03:38] <vendeta> pushd atheros-ar5007eg-installer-0.1b/ndiswrapper-1.47/
[03:38] <vendeta> sudo make uninstall
[03:38] <vendeta> make
[03:38] <vendeta> sudo make install
[03:38] <vendeta> popd
[03:39] <vendeta> for the code do i copy and paste all of the lines or one at a time
[03:39] <Pici> !enter | vendeta
[03:39] <ubotu> vendeta: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:39] <techII> vendeta: i have the same card, but its under gutsy
[03:39] <vendeta> huh
[03:39] <astro76> Pici, that's a paste :P
[03:39] <dho_ragus> Pelo: shizz, i just found out my problem.  modded my groups and somehow removed me from admin
[03:40] <Pelo> vendeta,  but that is the problem ?
[03:40] <newpers> is this an ubuntu issue or gnome issue?  I had dual monitors working with archlinux and xfce.  I have copied over my xorg.conf file from my archlinux backup to ubuntu, but X freezes when the GDM loads in ubuntu?
[03:40] <techII> i have the same chipset in this laptop, needed to do similar things to get it working
[03:40] <scipio> vendeta, one line at a time
[03:40] <vendeta> ok only 1 line
[03:40] <Besucher_57> ?
[03:40] <Besucher_57> hahha fuckin noobs
[03:40] <vendeta> tech can u help me with this
[03:40] <Pelo> vendeta, sorry I hadnT' read the second part, I was busy slapping pici,  yes one line at a time
[03:40] <techII> !question
[03:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <astro76> !noob | Besucher_57
[03:41] <ubotu> Besucher_57: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[03:41] <Besucher_57> aaah fuck my mom
[03:41] <Pelo> Besucher_57, I would have liked to see how you did your first time around
[03:41] <astro76> !language | Besucher_57
[03:41] <ubotu> Besucher_57: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <Pelo> !ops | Besucher_57
[03:41] <ubotu> Besucher_57: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:41] <Besucher_57> ?????????????
[03:41] <plasmafox> DCC SEND AWIGJIOJIOGWJAOIGJWIOEAJIOGJOIAWEOPWJEPOIGJIWEJG!
[03:41] <vendeta> blah spam
[03:41] <Amaranth> damnit
[03:41] <dsl800> dho_ragus, slight hitch - it askes for the ubuntu computer's root password
[03:42] <dsl800> dho_ragus, and it doesn't have a root password
[03:42] <newpers> is this an ubuntu issue or gnome issue?  I had dual monitors working with archlinux and xfce.  I have copied over my xorg.conf file from my archlinux backup to ubuntu, but X freezes when the GDM loads in ubuntu?
[03:42] <Pici> !traffic
[03:42] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[03:42] <matty_v> !question I have a hp zx500 pavillion on 7.04 - I am getting no sound - I have tried reinstalling the alsa trivers and my soundcard is detected via aplay -l : can anyone help me with this?
[03:42] <Pelo> !botabuse | Pici
[03:42] <ubotu> Pici: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:42] <Amaranth> Pelo: Dude.
[03:42] <Pici> Pelo: Would you stop harrassing me, I'm using the bot constructively.
[03:43] <dho_ragus> dsl800: ah
[03:43] <dsl800> !botsnack
[03:43] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:43] <dsl800> me too
[03:43] <dho_ragus> dsl800: do this then...
[03:43] <dho_ragus> dsl800: rsync --partial --progress -az  /path/to/backup  user@remotepc:~/
[03:43] <dsl800> got it
[03:43] <dsl800> thanks
[03:43] <matty_v> !question I have a hp zx500 pavillion on 7.04 - I am getting no sound - I have tried reinstalling the alsa trivers and my soundcard is detected via aplay -l : can anyone help me with this?
[03:44] <dsl800> YAY! THE HARD DRIVE SPINS UP
[03:44] <seanj_> :)
[03:44] <Amaranth> matty_v: are you sure it's not just really quiet?
[03:44] <seanj_> I love it whent they do that.
[03:44] <Pelo> !sound | matty_v have you tried this ?
[03:44] <ubotu> matty_v have you tried this ?: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:44] <matty_v> Amaranth - yep 100% (even tho i might be half deaf) - I cant hear anything at all
[03:45] <Amaranth> matty_v: oh, no idea then
[03:45] <sipalui> anyone have succesufully installed opera on ubuntu 5.0?
[03:45] <matty_v> Pelo: I have followed the SoundTroubleshooting guide with no luck so far
[03:45] <dsl800> dho_ragus, thanks so much for your help!
[03:45] <dho_ragus> dsl800: no problemo, losing data is teh sukc!
[03:45] <Pelo> matty_v, starting with the basics are you sure your speakers are plugged in and powered on ?
[03:46] <dho_ragus> my aunts boyfriend once said "there are two kinds of data... the kind you haven't lost, and the kind you haven't lost YET"
[03:46] <matty_v> Pelo - Yes - I'm using a laptop which has internal speakers
[03:46] <pike_> matty_v: only problems ive had with sound on my laptops recently have been amixer settings. is launch alsamixer in terminal and adjust the volume and also unmute using < > keys worth a shot
[03:46] <Pelo> matty_v,  some laptops have hardware mute buttons
[03:47] <matty_v> Yeah i've tried alsamixer so far - I have an external mute button which I have tried on & off
[03:47] <politik> anyone else get random terminal corruption sometimes, especially when running a curses app like aptitude? sometimes I get chinese characters, or other random things
[03:47] <techII> about sound, my built in speakers work, but my microphone only produces static, this does not happen under windows
[03:47] <matty_v> with no luck ot either :(
[03:47] <lmosher> I'm on the Ubuntu liveCD and GParted is driving me -crazy-. I'm doing some operations on my primary disk (resizing/moving/copying partitions) and the stupid thing keeps MOUNTING the drive as soon as an operation finishes, which means GParted can't finish cleanly (it would normally check to make sure it went OK).
[03:47] <lmosher> Is there any way to make it -stop- automounting my drive so gparted can finish what it's doing?
[03:47] <Pelo> techII, I suggest you have a look in the forum
[03:47] <techII> i have no idea what could cause the problem, other than some weird thing in the windows drivers
[03:48] <AutoMatriX> somebody can give me a link to install a 704, on a 4 gig usb-stick ?
[03:48] <astro76> lmosher, I believe there's a way, I always just use system rescue cd instead
[03:48] <Pelo> lmosher, umount from gparted it should lock them out
[03:48] <sipalui> anyone have succesufully installed opera on ubuntu 5.0?
[03:48] <pike_> AutoMatriX: /msg ubotu install
[03:48] <Pelo> !install | AutoMatriX
[03:48] <ubotu> AutoMatriX: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> sipalui: 5.0?
[03:48] <pike_> AutoMatriX: the first link
[03:48] <AutoMatriX> tx pike
[03:48] <IdleOne> !upgrade | sipalui
[03:48] <ubotu> sipalui: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:48] <AutoMatriX> tx pelo
[03:49] <lmosher> Pelo, ok so let it automount and then use gparted to unmount instead of doing it manually?
[03:49] <Pelo> AutoMatriX, too late , I'm offended now
[03:49] <Pelo> lmosher, pretty much,  but I donT' get why it gets remounted , it shouldn'T do that
[03:50] <flush> yo
[03:50] <flush> how the hell do i mount a dvd cdrom via nfs
[03:50] <sipalui> IdleOne: I have to wait for the CD to come to my place
[03:50] <flush> it keeps bugging me with "server gives reason: permission denied" even though i added it (ro,async) in /etc/exports
[03:50] <flush> what gives
[03:50] <d4rkmonkey> flush, thats definately not the way to ask a question on this channel.
[03:50] <lmosher> Pelo, Yeah it shouldn't... it's really really really annoying. I mean so far (knock on wood) nothing has gone wrong.. but usuall instead of gparted finishing cleanly, I get a window of the drive contents poping up and gparted crashes :)
[03:50] <Pelo> flush,  didyou try with sudo ?
[03:51] <flush> Pelo i mount it here, then i just cannot mount it on the remote box
[03:51] <dho_ragus> flush: you could try symlinking it into a pre-existing nfs folder
[03:51] <sipalui> IdleOne: I have ordered them from Shipit
[03:51] <IdleOne> sipalui: why not use the upgrade-manager?
[03:51] <flush> all other nfs mounts (hard drive partitions) will mount correctly
[03:51] <flush> dho_ragus interesting
[03:51] <flush> you think its because its a cdrom that it keeps saying "permission denied" ?
[03:51] <casperzshado> this might be a question for kubuntu but i dont think so, i downloaded and installed my nvidia driver and i have to go into the terminal and type something to enable it, sudo apt-get something enable, im running kubuntu but can anyone help me?
[03:51] <Pelo> lmosher, maybe the mount point needs to be shared ? I donT' know much abut this I am sorry
[03:51] <flush> i tried googling.. cant find something useful
[03:51] <sipalui> IdleOne: where is the update-manager?
[03:52] <Pelo> soorry worng person
[03:52] <Pelo> flush maybe the mount point needs to be shared ? I donT' know much abut this I am sorry
[03:52] <flush> yea it it shared
[03:52] <IdleOne> sipalui: under System > Administration > Update manager
[03:53] <scipio> flush, if you have access get the gparted livecd and use that instead..
[03:53] <IdleOne> hmmm did 5.0 have a update-manager or was that implemented in 5.10?
[03:54] <flush> see my export file: http://allpr0h.eyh.ca/wtfx0r/exports
[03:54] <flush> everything in that file will mount correctly, except the damn cdrom..
[03:54] <IdleOne> !language | flush
[03:54] <ubotu> flush: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:54] <flush> aight
[03:55] <IdleOne> flush: also try not to use the enter key like punctuation :|
[03:55] <flush> sorry im getting annoyed
[03:55] <flush> hrm..
[03:55] <slowriot_> v identify yammer
[03:56] <IdleOne> slowriot_: use / next time and change your password
[03:56] <ztomic> bye!
[03:56] <slowriot_> IdleOne: why?
[03:56] <dho_ragus> flush: ah, now i see why you're trying to mount a dvd...
[03:56] <IdleOne> slowriot_: cause now we all know your pass is yammer
[03:56] <slowriot_> wow
[03:56] <slowriot_> oh!
[03:56] <slowriot_> oops
[03:56] <flush> dho_ragus yes, a dvd
[03:57] <flush> why cannot it just -read- the dvd mounted here
[03:58] <dho_ragus> flush: take out the async and try again
[03:58] <IdleOne> slowriot_: always a good idea to send pasword via the server tab so it doesnt get sent to an open #
[03:58] <casperzshado>  this might be a question for kubuntu but i dont think so, i downloaded and installed my nvidia driver and i have to go into the terminal and type something to enable it, sudo apt-get something enable, im running kubuntu but can anyone help me?
[03:58] <flush> dho_ragus copy, ill try in few mins ill tell you watsup
[03:59] <Pelo> !nvidia | casperzshado
[03:59] <ubotu> casperzshado: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:59] <HHP2K> casperzshado: /j #kubuntu
[03:59] <slowriot_> After I tried installing a windows driver for my wireless card using ndiswrapper, I started getting soft crashes whenever I try to boot up. I was told to remove the ndiswrapper package to do this. How do I remove the package? Right now I am running ubuntu off the cd.
[03:59] <faileas> hmm
[03:59] <faileas> !jdk
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Pelo> slowriot_, sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper
[04:00] <sin2gen2> !screenlets
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenlets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <Pelo> slowriot_,  you'll need to boot the recovery mode, you can'T do that from the live cd
[04:01] <Pelo> sin2gen2,  you'll need to google for screenlets, they have a site
[04:01] <slowriot_> Pelo: okay, but recovery mode crashes too. How do I get around that?
[04:01] <sin2gen2> Pelo:  just found it thanks
[04:01] <hotdog003> Hello. I'm having problems with a Zonet ZEW1602 wireless card. I've compiled ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant from source, but WPA mode doesn't work. Dmesg reports that 'ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[04:01] <Pelo> slowriot_,  I think you are screwed
[04:01] <J-Wreck> slowriot, do you have backups?
[04:02] <J-Wreck> you're in a bad spot
[04:02] <slowriot_> Pelo: but I have access to everything from the live CD.
[04:02] <Pelo> hotdog003, you'll have to chekc in the forum
[04:02] <Pelo> slowriot_,  you can use the recovery cd to backup your /home
[04:02] <hotdog003> Aw. Ok. Thanks, guys. *sigh*
[04:02] <dahlan> haloo all
[04:02] <Pelo> slowriot_, but you cannot uninstall from the live cd,  or at least I donT' think so
[04:02] <HHP2K> rofl, hotdog should have waited
[04:02] <slowriot_> J-Wreck: no backups. Usually when I change an important file I make a backup, but I did the installation using a GUI. I guess there are the backups that ubuntu automatically makes.
[04:02] <HHP2K> dahlan: Ello =D
[04:03] <J-Wreck> well, you can backup your files from the liveCD
[04:03] <J-Wreck> it'll be a littler slower, but it'll work
[04:03] <J-Wreck> and Pelo is right, you can't change packages on the system from the liveCD
[04:03] <slowriot_> J-Wreck: hmm.. that's an idea.
[04:03] <J-Wreck> you might need to reinstall
[04:03] <faileas> i'm trying in install netbeans. i'm told to change the ownership of a file to root.root, can someone tell me how to do it?
[04:03] <meoblast001> does Ubuntu support RPM's
[04:03] <Pelo> slowriot_, you can resize the partition ad make a seperate one for moving your /home to ,  we hightly recommend that you use a seperate partiton fo ryour /home folder in the future , it saves a lot of trouble when it comes time to reinstall
[04:04] <Pelo> meoblast001, ubuntu uses deb
[04:04] <J-Wreck> you can use alien to install rpms on ubuntu, however
[04:04] <madman91> meoblast001: you can convert rpms to debs with alien
[04:04] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  you can convert an RPM to a DEB using the alian package
[04:04] <madman91> bah,, you beat me
[04:04] <meoblast001> Pelo: i know but can it use RPM's too? some operating systems can use other pacages
[04:04] <J-Wreck> no, it cannot use rpms without converting them
[04:04] <Pelo> J-Wreck, he can but honestly he's better of compiling
[04:05] <meoblast001> k thanks
[04:05] <slowriot_> Pelo: hmm... okay
[04:05] <J-Wreck> true, pelo
[04:05] <vincechen> but now use linux from 6.10 at the official web
[04:05] <J-Wreck> depends how much data/tweaking is there
[04:05] <J-Wreck> if its relatively new
[04:05] <J-Wreck> it wouldn't matter much
[04:05] <Pelo> vincechen,  ? ???
[04:06] <aaisen> does anyone have any experience with overwriting hardware dvd encryption in ubuntu?
[04:06] <madman91> i just installed a cli version of ubuntu.. and i was curious if there was someway to boot the network interface (eth1) at start up.. it doesnt seem to open up on its own.. also.. how can i rename eth1 to eth0
[04:07] <vincechen> Pelo, the official web change it from edgy,say use linux (not debian)
[04:07] <slowriot_> Pelo: is there OS file that running ndiswrapper would have changed that causes my computer to crash during bootup?
[04:07] <pike_> madman91: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces  youll want an auto eth1 in there i believe
[04:07] <Pelo> madman91, why would you need to do so ?
[04:07] <slowriot_> Pelo: maybe it has been backed up
[04:07] <madman91> Pelo: .. the network starting up?
[04:07] <pike_> madman91: for the rename... /etc/iftab
[04:08] <madman91> pike_: ... in iftab there is an eth0 .. but my device is called eth1
[04:08] <qmf> is there a gutsy help channel?
[04:08] <Pelo> slowriot_,  look in /etc/init.d  maybe youcan delete it from there ,  in fact   run   locate ndiswrapper and delete allyou see
[04:08] <slowriot_> Pelo: thanks
[04:08] <Pelo> qmf,  #ubuntu+1
[04:08] <XFTwitch> wow. madman91 had almost the same question as I did....
[04:08] <pike_> madman91: iftab has the harware adress associated with the device name.  i guess eth1 is maybe a wireless card?
[04:08] <DerangedDingo> qmf: i think there's a ubuntu-devel or something channel. check the main website
[04:08] <XFTwitch> and now I think it's fixed.
[04:08] <qmf> cheers pelo
[04:08] <XFTwitch> :)
[04:08] <Pelo> slowriot_, you might be reckingit but at this point ...
[04:09] <madman91> pike_: no wireless cards at all
[04:09] <J-Wreck> qmf, there is  #ubuntu+1, which is for development versions and such
[04:09] <madman91> pike_: lol :)
[04:09] <madman91> pike_: i forgot to ssh into the remote computer :D hahaha
[04:10] <GamingX> Hello guys, I read about how Linux is almost invincible against viruses when compared to Windows, but what about spyware, adware and the likes of it?
[04:10] <Glench_> hello my fellows dudes!
[04:10] <madman91> pike_: but wait.. its still auto eth0 ..
[04:10] <madman91> GamingX: thats pretty much gone too
[04:10] <J-Wreck> GamingX, you won't have to worry about that
[04:10] <Glench_> who wants to help me stab wireless in the face?
[04:10] <Konsole> how do i make the terminal see through?
[04:10] <J-Wreck> Konsole, do you have beryl/compiz installed?
[04:10] <Konsole> yes
[04:10] <Konsole> compiz.
[04:11] <Pelo> GamingX, the way linux is built is almost impossible for anyting to install itself on your computer withouht your knowlegde,  and what little can can't realy do much damage
[04:11] <pike_> madman91: so id assume that is ok. then you just want to flip the devices with the macs in iftab ?
[04:11] <Glench_> I need help using unshield. Anyone up to it?
[04:11] <sdfasdf> so I think I have the right driver installed for my webcam but there isn't a /dev/video and ekiga doesn't auto detect anything. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this?
[04:11] <DerangedDingo> Konsole: Open the terminal, Edit, Profiles, Edit current profile, and go to effects
[04:11] <GamingX> I see....Linux all the way!!!
[04:11] <madman91> pike_: .. its eth0 in there as well... but in ifconfig its eth1
[04:11] <J-Wreck> glad you agree GamingX
[04:12] <Konsole> thanks
[04:12] <J-Wreck> there are a lot more good things then that, though
[04:12] <wers> how do I use the Qt Configuration app?
[04:12] <Glench_> so I have daa1.cab and I need to use unshield to extract it somewhere but I don't know how to do so
[04:12] <sin2gen2> Konsole:  i think compiz defaults let you click on the title bar, hold down Alt, and scroll the wheel to make any window transparent as well.  text is hard to read, however
[04:12] <Glench_> I tried reading the man page but don't get what I'm missing
[04:12] <Pelo> later folks
[04:12] <pike_> madman91: im confused :)
[04:13] <wers> I chose cleanlooks as the Qt theme but my qt apps still look the same
[04:13] <J-Wreck> sin2gen2, thats not what he wanted
[04:13] <madman91> pike_: ill pastebin all the files
[04:13] <pike_> madman91: maybe things are a bit different in feist and up
[04:13] <J-Wreck> i believe he wanted just a transparent background for the terminal
[04:13] <GamingX> As I am doing my major in CS, I was asked to install Red-Hat Linux but since I have Ubuntu, will it matter?
[04:13] <meoblast001> i think ppl who never touched a computer should be able to consider Linux over Windows
[04:13] <J-Wreck> depends on the course
[04:13] <meoblast001> sorry for being off topic but its true
[04:13] <Mr56k> Turning compiz or desktop effects messes up any videos i try to play
[04:13] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  probably.  can't really read terminals my mentioned way
[04:13] <madman91> pike_: http://paste.stgraber.org/2545  iftab
[04:13] <winblow1> hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i was wondering how do i make sure i know apt-get is getting the latest software available for my system or does it just configured to do so by default?
[04:13] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: In what ways
[04:13] <paotzu> meoblast001: people who have never touched a computer are easier to train how to use linux
[04:14] <Mr56k> im hoping in next release its fixed
[04:14] <qmf> i'm getting errors with linux-libc-dev " unable to make backup link of `./usr/include/asm/debugreg.h' before installing"
[04:14] <J-Wreck> winblow1, its getting the latest stable software
[04:14] <qmf> can't change the permissions on the file
[04:14] <Glench_> so how do I extract these files from the .cab with unshield?
[04:14] <DerangedDingo> winblow1: it updates by default. though you can update the package lists with "apt-get update"
[04:14] <J-Wreck> there may be trial/beta/testing versions that are newer
[04:14] <GamingX> !compiz
[04:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:14] <meoblast001> paotzu: i think computers should use easy terms.... i highly dought my grandma is gonna know what an activex control is
[04:14] <Mr56k> opening any divx. or avi video wont show up until i move the window a little bit. OR if i try to resize it acts weird
[04:14] <Mr56k> off everything runs great
[04:15] <Mr56k> same with dvd's
[04:15] <Glench_> !unshield
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unshield - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: I have the same problem.. i think it's just something you have to get used to... I don't think there's an uncomplicated fix
[04:15] <mikepence> can someone explain this to me
[04:15] <mikepence> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:15] <mikepence>   libmp4v2-0: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[04:15] <mikepence>               Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[04:15] <mikepence> does this mean my installed files are too new?
[04:15] <winblow1> are there any guides to setting up a software raid when installing ubuntu for the first time?
[04:15] <J-Wreck> DerangedDingo, it shouldn't be just something to live with
[04:16] <politik> Where is the proper place to put applications that I install myself, without using a package? /opt?
[04:16] <J-Wreck> i've never had that problem but i remember reading somewhere about it
[04:16] <J-Wreck> there is definitely a fix
[04:16] <Mr56k> Well it seemed ok under gutsy alpha. But I had other issues with Gutsy so went back to feisty. Hopefully final fixes everything
[04:16] <madman91> pike_: does that help.. what else do you need?
[04:16] <theurs> I have a trouble with gnome terminal and MC, Shift+F4 prints out some code and doesn't open new file for edit/ same with xterm
[04:16] <Glench_> aw man
[04:16] <DerangedDingo> J-Wreck: I understand.. but I got used to it... I'll google for guides.
[04:17] <Glench_> I got wireless working one time and I documented the whole process just in case, and now I can't use this stupid unshield package for some reason
[04:17] <sin2gen2> Mr56k:  mine did that the first time i installed Gutsy.  second time around it didn't
[04:17] <J-Wreck> either way, its up to you DerangedDingo, no one will tell you "NO! YOU HAVE TO FIX IT!"
[04:17] <J-Wreck> if you're happy with it, its fine
[04:17] <Glench_> presumably this is the only step I'm missing in the process
[04:17] <Mr56k> yea thats why im hoping once it goes final everything will be good
[04:17] <Glench_> all I need is this and wireless will be working :(
[04:18] <sin2gen2> Mr56k:  i hope so.  but there's things i can't get working in Feisty :)
[04:18] <icespider69199> i had the same problem with videos not showin up until I move the window
[04:18] <icespider69199> but disabling effects from the appearance menu fixed it
[04:18] <icespider69199> (in the gutsy alpha)
[04:18] <Mr56k> yea same here
[04:18] <Mr56k> cant use any 3d effects or it messes with video playback
[04:19] <Mr56k> kinda stinks.
[04:19] <icespider69199> every day it seems like a lot of changes are made to the gutsy alpha
[04:19] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: 2. This is a known issue for AIGLX and Xv. Try changing the default video output with the gstreamer-properties utility (to X11 - No Xv) to work around it. (this will only apply to Gstreamer-based applications such as the default Totem installed).
[04:19] <GamingX> Is installing compiz on Ubuntu Feisty Fawn recommended? I dont know anything about it....except it gives the desktop windows effects...
[04:19] <kevin_> Pelo: okay, I'm back on the installation that was crashing
[04:19] <meoblast001> any USB pro's here?
[04:19] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  go for it
[04:19] <mboldisc> 3D desktop is fun for a day.
[04:19] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/92369    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=NSp&q=How+to+fix+movie+problem+with+compiz&btnG=Search
[04:19] <kevin_> Pelo: I deleted init.d/networking and that other stuff
[04:20] <J-Wreck> GamingX, yes, i recomend it
[04:20] <Mr56k> Thanks DerangedDinger . I will just leave off effects for now
[04:20] <kevin_> Pelo: glad I didn't have to reinstall :)
[04:20] <J-Wreck> mboldisc, compiz gives a lot more then the 3D stuff
[04:20] <Mr56k> Ill try them again once GUTSY goes final
[04:20] <icespider69199> will the video problems probably be fixed by default in the gutsy final?
[04:20] <mboldisc> snowflakes?
[04:20] <J-Wreck> its not all eyecandy, its actually useful
[04:20] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: Okie doke
[04:20] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  i agree,  easy desktop navigation
[04:20] <madman91> !topic
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[04:20] <J-Wreck> maximizing windows only vertically, for instance
[04:21] <madman91> when is gutsy's release date.. roughly?
[04:21] <Miso> do we have JRE for 64 bit ubuntu yet?
[04:21] <paotzu> isn't there a gutsy only channel
[04:21] <GamingX> madman91:October 13....
[04:21] <madman91> GamingX: not too bad :)
[04:21] <J-Wreck> #ubuntu+1 is for gutsy only
[04:21] <madman91> GamingX: thanks
[04:21] <Glench_> so no one wants to help with my wireless.unshield?
[04:22] <J-Wreck> sorry Glench_, i don't have experience with unshield
[04:22] <DerangedDingo> Mr56k: I found an easy fix. I'm gonna try it as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428018
[04:22] <nephish_> Miso, i think you can get JRE, but you have to get it from Sun
[04:22] <icespider69199> here is the complete release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[04:22] <Glench_> aw dang, thanks anyway
[04:22] <L|qu|dX> Hey guys, anyone know about kernal header errors, when installing a gigabyte eth card on ubuntu server?
[04:22] <theurs> does anybody use gnome terminal and MC?
[04:22] <GamingX> why do we have to pay for RedHat Linux?
[04:23] <mboldisc> Because God only likes Ubuntu.
[04:23] <J-Wreck> GamingX, theres no law that says all linux is free
[04:23] <L|qu|dX> lol
[04:23] <pike_> GamingX: enterprise support and if ya have to learn one you should learn the environment people are hiring for.
[04:23] <pike_> GamingX: thats not really the case anymore
[04:23] <Lunis> GamingX, you only have to pay for the enterprise linux. Fedora is redhat free
[04:23] <nephish_> Miso, maybe here ? http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[04:23] <Milk_> hey guys, I feel like an idiot for asking.. but I'm trying to use sftp to move files, but there are subdirectories to move and the put command is ignoring them.. can I get around this?
[04:23] <L|qu|dX> Do I need to update to the newest kernal?
[04:23] <mboldisc> Anyone else hate Fedora package management?
[04:23] <meoblast001> Lunis: fedora sux
[04:24] <Matir> mboldisc, yep
[04:24] <Lunis> meoblast001, i suppose that's all a matter of opinion, eh?
[04:24] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  nobody will donate :)  you can get Fedora free i believe
[04:24] <J-Wreck> L|qu|dX, it can't hurt
[04:24] <meoblast001> Lunis: my server runs it and YUM takes forever to start up
[04:24] <malnilion> Does anybody know a video player that handles the .wvx extension?
[04:24] <glick> excuse me, how come cant i open more then one bit torrent file at the same time?
[04:24] <J-Wreck> yum = suck
[04:24] <mboldisc> indeed
[04:24] <glick> when i try it says port 98 is already in use
[04:24] <J-Wreck> glick, what torrent program do you use?
[04:24] <L|qu|dX> is there going to be a problem installing the newest kernal on ubuntu server?
[04:24] <yoruichi> hye
[04:24] <glick> J-Wreck, the default one
[04:25] <L|qu|dX> known issues that is
[04:25] <J-Wreck> which is (sorry, I don't remember)?
[04:25] <glick> i just click on the orrent file
[04:25] <ziroday> can someone please help me, whenever I start gdm i get the error - gnome settings daemon could not initialize
[04:25] <meoblast001> any GUI for alien??????
[04:25] <pike_> glick: your client should be able to handle more than one. sounds like youre launching multiple instances. id install deluge its a decent gui client
[04:25] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  gnome-bittorrent i think?
[04:25] <glick> yes
[04:25] <J-Wreck> personally, I like KTorrent, even on GNOME
[04:25] <Milk_> anyone?
[04:25] <sin2gen2> +1 ktorrent
[04:25] <Milk_> meoblast001, why do you need a gui for alien?
[04:25] <icespider69199> malnilion: if I remember correctly, WVX files are text files that have the URL to a wmv in them
[04:26] <genefitz> GamingX, Redhat is more for the business end. The free version of redhat is Fedora. It has most of the options and doesn't cost anything
[04:26] <meoblast001> MilK_: cuz i cant tell if its working
[04:26] <pike_> rtorrent for cli, then utorrent with wine then ktorrent or deluge in that order :)
[04:26] <meoblast001> Milk_: and its erroring
[04:26] <Milk_> meoblast001, its got some output at the CLI
[04:26] <Milk_> a gui isn't going to help erroring
[04:26] <genefitz> Well, that is, other than the time to download and install
[04:26] <sin2gen2> !deluge
[04:26] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[04:26] <glick> can i configure gnome-bittorrent to allow more connections
[04:26] <glick> ?
[04:26] <meoblast001> Milk_: but GUI generally inputs a perfect line
[04:26] <icespider69199> malnilion: I might not be right about this but you should be able to open the WVX in a text editor and just look ath the URL of the video
[04:26] <malnilion> icespider69199, indeed, and VLC's default behavior does not seem to be queueing up the various wmv files listed as I would expect it to.
[04:27] <paotzu> GamingX: now that novell and ibm are teaming up against redhat, they are going to gobble up redhat's market share anyway
[04:27] <meoblast001> well anyways... ill try to get the deb for VMWARE to work again
[04:27] <GamingX> Ok...Thanks and among these all Fedora, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and others is there any way to know which one is the best?
[04:27] <J-Wreck> glick, you most likely can, but i strongly recommend switching to a different client
[04:27] <sin2gen2> GamingX:  not rpm-based, IMHO
[04:27] <glick> which one ktorrent>?
[04:27] <J-Wreck> thats what I'd suggest
[04:27] <meoblast001> anyone here know of the sudo that affects everything in GNOME?
[04:27] <L|qu|dX> J-Wreck: any known issues installing the newest kernal on ubuntu server?
[04:27] <genefitz> GamingX: which is the best really depends on what you like..
[04:27] <icespider69199> malnilion: would it be acceptable to create a playlist in VLC with all the videos in the WVX?
[04:27] <J-Wreck> L|qu|dX, I don't believe so, but I don't use ubuntu server
[04:27] <sin2gen2> glick:  try ktorrent.  you'll like it
[04:27] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  gksudo?
[04:28] <genefitz> Personally, I use Fedora, but that is just a prefrence..
[04:28] <L|qu|dX> last question sorry
[04:28] <meoblast001> ectospasm: thanx now i can clear my cache
[04:28] <DerangedDingo> GamingX: So many distro's are there for a reason... for what people individually need.. yes it sounds like crap, but it makes it hard to judge. I heard Arch is good for tinkerers... Ubuntu is best all round I'd have to say... you get the point. Redhat for business and servers, etc
[04:28] <J-Wreck> lol, feel free to ask as many as you want
[04:28] <J-Wreck> thats why we're here
[04:28] <KoPaCh> nick yoj
[04:28] <meoblast001> ectospasm: synaptic cant find it
[04:28] <L|qu|dX> J-Wreck: is there a step by step process to read to update the newest kernal?
[04:28] <malnilion> icespider69199, yeah, but if I have wvx's I'd like it to go ahead and queue all the videos up itself and cut out some unnecessary work...
[04:28] <Ketterman> hey, how di set my beryl to launch at boot up?
[04:28] <redwullf> So, I'm about to take the plunge and expunge Windows XP off a laptop and put Ubuntu in its place. However, I'm concerned that ndiswrapper might not cut it for wireless connectivity.
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> J-Wrck: Ubuntu updates the kernel with synaptic every month or two
[04:29] <redwullf> Anyone here had success with it? I already know there are no drivers for my wi-fi card.
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> oops
[04:29] <sin2gen2> Ketterman:  depends on the window manager.  what one do you use?
[04:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <J-Wreck> what kernel are you using now?
[04:29] <riotkittie> Ketterman:  add it to your session.  if youre under GNOME ... System > Preferences > Session
[04:29] <paotzu> all any linux distro is a install programs, libraries of packages, and an organization/philosophy on what packages go in
[04:29] <Emperor_Ownage> KHobbits
[04:29] <Emperor_Ownage> sup man
[04:29] <KHobbits> yup
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> L|qu|dX: Ubuntu updates the kernel with synaptic every month or two.. it's not something you need to worry about
[04:29] <Emperor_Ownage> dis is kewlio
[04:29] <KHobbits> told you it was one big chan ;)
[04:29] <riotkittie> redwullf: what kinda wireless are you working with ?
[04:30] <redwullf> It's the built-in in an older Gateway MX3215 laptop.
[04:30] <redwullf> A Broadcom 802.11g
[04:30] <bulmer> whoaa a 7.9 magnitude hit Peru..
[04:30] <L|qu|dX> ok so thats a dead end for the gigbyte card
[04:30] <Emperor_Ownage> WEWT
[04:30] <L|qu|dX> hrmmm
[04:30] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  um, what do you think the program is that runs when you first run synaptic?  The password prompt is gksudo
[04:30] <meoblast001> how does one get gksudo?????
[04:30] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  you already have it
[04:31] <meoblast001> ectospasm: well it doesnt do that when i try to delete files
[04:31] <DerangedDingo> Oh.. that reminds me. Does anyone know if it's possible to boot ubuntu with a different kernel.. say, the linux ARCH kernel, if I wanted to get more power out of my P4?
[04:31] <riotkittie> redwullf: ah. ndiswrapper should be fine.  then again, i've i've never had to touch it :P
[04:31] <redwullf> Heh. Try and see, I suppose.
[04:31] <sin2gen2> redwullf:  do a 'sudo lspci'.  what chipset?
[04:31] <genefitz> paotzu, I agree, however it seems that every distro has i't own little personality and quirks. I do think some are better engineered than others, and some a re definately more user friendly than others..
[04:31] <riotkittie> i need a new wireless usb adapter. or maybe i should cave and put a card in. being limited to WEP is kinda lame :|
[04:32] <redwullf> sin2gen2: Not installed on the laptop yet.
[04:32] <ectospasm> meoblast001:  no, it won't do that
[04:32] <J-Wreck> riotkittie, WEP is not anywhere near as secure as WPA, you should definitely change as soon as you can
[04:32] <redwullf> Worrying about losing wi-fi has held me back so far.
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[04:32] <Geek_> !op
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[04:32] <redwullf> Can someone kick that guy?
[04:32] <meoblast001> ectospasm: well... i need to clear my apt cache
[04:32] <Geek_> thanks
[04:32] <J-Wreck> nice
[04:33] <sin2gen2> redwullf:  ah.  well an install cd will tell you if it is supported, of course
[04:33] <redwullf> Good point, let me try that now...
[04:33] <ziroday> can someone please help me, whenever I start gdm i get the error - gnome settings daemon could not initialize, during this error the startup process is really slow and i cant access nautilus or gnome panels afterwards
[04:33] <riotkittie> J-Wreck: yeah, i've been looking around but i'm hoping to pick something up cheap. we've dumped way too much $$ into computer related stuff in recent weeks :|
[04:34] <J-Wreck> riotkittie, you can probably pick up one second hand fairly cheap
[04:34] <riotkittie> i'm a moron for not having thought to check compatability before buying the one i have right now. doh.
[04:34] <J-Wreck> try ebay, maybe?
[04:34] <riotkittie> J-Wreck: yeah, i'm keeping an eye on ebay :P
[04:35] <sin2gen2> redwullf:  i, personally, haven't had a lot of luck with ndiswrapper.  hopefully some driver code is out there for yours
[04:36] <genefitz> sin2gen2: I have found that wireless kits are kind of the problem child of linux, (all distros)
[04:36] <J-Wreck> genefitz, that's true, but its not the Linux's sides fault
[04:36] <genefitz> I guess there just isn't a standard generic meeting point for wireless
[04:36] <sin2gen2> riotkittie:  craigslist is nice for cheap computer related stuff.  a lot of people don't even know that they have ($15 WRT54G v3 last week haha)
[04:37] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i agree.  it is the one part i can't really do without
[04:37] <genefitz> J-Wreck, I agree, it is the manufacturers not picking up in the trend..
[04:37] <L|qu|dX> error we get when trying to install the NIC card drivers is : check for kernal header files NOT FOUND
[04:37] <J-Wreck> of all the people I know, i've only had one person have WPA work out of the box
[04:37] <genefitz> They will see, now that linux is more popular than ever, gaining more and more "standard" (home) users
[04:38] <J-Wreck> hopefully
[04:38] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  i blame AMD.  oh wait, wireless right heh
[04:38] <J-Wreck> lol
[04:38] <genefitz> sin2gen, lol
[04:38] <mboldisc> w00t SCO is sunk! :-P
[04:39] <Geek_> yay
[04:39] <J-Wreck> btw, people; http://www.petitiononline.com/appleodf/petition.html
[04:39] <L|qu|dX> anyone?
[04:39] <genefitz> You know though, I never had a problem with AMD and linux. Now the mainboards for them were a different story..
[04:40] <qiyong> is there any good webmail? i use postfix+dovecot.
[04:40] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i have three machines using fglrx
[04:40] <mneptok> J-Wreck: WPA woorks flawlessly on all my home machines.
[04:40] <icespider69199> I still haven't figured out a way to use WPA unless I choose "roaming mode" and enable DHCP on the router
[04:40] <J-Wreck> lucky you mneptok
[04:40] <J-Wreck> =\
[04:40] <mneptok> qiyong: Round Cube?
[04:40] <J-Wreck> I wish i had your luck
[04:40] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i just want AIGLX!  haha, can't complain about anything else at all
[04:40] <mneptok> J-Wreck: it's not luck. it's hardware research prior to purchase.
[04:40] <ziroday> J-Wreck: did you try the wpa supplicant package
[04:40] <qiyong> mneptok, i need to support japanese lang
[04:41] <J-Wreck> ziroday, mine works fine now, I'm just saying it didn't work out of the box
[04:41] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I can feel ya there..
[04:41] <yoj> :)
[04:41] <fsckr> !nvdeco
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvdeco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <yoj> sam nedhto misala :)
[04:41] <J-Wreck> and mneptok, lots of people buy the hardware when they use Windows, then decide to switch
[04:41] <riotkittie> i never had a prob using wpa
[04:41] <fsckr> !nvidiadeco
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidiadeco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <fsckr> ugh
[04:41] <J-Wreck> hence the lack of checking for compatibility
[04:42] <killer_hobbits> i think this channel, is a bit too much for my mirc to deal with -.-
[04:42] <J-Wreck> XChat FTW
[04:42] <riotkittie> cough*irssi*cough
[04:42] <qiyong> dho_ragus , why you recomment roundecube, instead of squirrelmail or sqwebmail, etc? techII
[04:43] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I understand, I just built a computer yesterday as a dedicated linux box. First time in years I have bought an Intel processor..
[04:43] <aajvs99> is anyone interested in developing a new linux distro with me?
[04:43] <mneptok> qiyong: http://oss.poyo.jp/roundcube-ja/ - yattemitara
[04:43] <moyer> anyone use cairo-clock... if so how do i remove the ugly black background, i dont want to set my desk wallpaper to black.. but it looks dumb if i dont.. can i remove it somehow?
[04:43] <crdlb> moyer, you need to use a composite manager
[04:43] <aajvs99> iyep
[04:43] <aajvs99> yep
[04:43] <crdlb> (read: beryl/compiz)
[04:43] <riotkittie> moyer: i'm unfamiliar with it, but is there, perhaps, a config file? maybe in ~/.cairo?  ro something similar.
[04:44] <edubuntu> err
[04:44] <riotkittie> oh nm.
[04:44] <moyer> i dont know what that is crdlb : but thanks
[04:44] <moyer> :)
[04:44] <aajvs99> yah you need a compositor
[04:44] <moyer> oo new stuff to learn :)
[04:45] <riotkittie> do Desktop Effects not play nice with Xinerama?
[04:45] <genefitz> Now I am just in the process of moving media from my M$ computer to my linux box
[04:45] <wolferine> riotkittie, what makes you say that?
[04:45] <moyer> whaatt image editing... pfft im not artist
[04:46] <aajvs99> anybody interested in creating a new linux distro?
[04:46] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  mention M$ again and get banned :)  ooooh if i had the power here!  but i don't
[04:46] <mneptok> qiyong: suki desu ka?
[04:46] <genefitz> riotkittie, I always had issues with compiz and beryl in Ubuntu
[04:46] <moyer> aajvs99 :i would love to, but i dont know enough yet
[04:46] <J-Wreck> aajvs99, you sure you up for it? It won't be some knock-off with just different art and packages?
[04:47] <qiyong> mneptok, suki?
[04:47] <aajvs99> no
[04:47] <aajvs99> debian based
[04:47] <J-Wreck> whats your goal with it
[04:47] <genefitz> sin2gen2, lol, well, you know how it is..
[04:47] <aajvs99> is the goal
[04:47] <sin2gen2> riotkittie:  mine works under beryl
[04:47] <qiyong> mneptok, suse?
[04:47] <mneptok> qiyong: "do you like it?"
[04:47] <qiyong> mneptok, no
[04:47] <aajvs99> i want it to be the first with compiz fusion
[04:47] <aajvs99> pre installed
[04:47] <J-Wreck> well, i'd love to help but i don't know if i know enough
[04:47] <sin2gen2> riotkittie:  but if i open some window over it is SLOWS down
[04:47] <Stik> Theres already 1.5k debian based distros.. why another?
[04:47] <riotkittie> ah
[04:47] <aajvs99> well if u can do artwork thats a help
[04:47] <aajvs99> gotta start somewhere
[04:48] <J-Wreck> ha, sorry, i can't do art at all
[04:48] <genefitz> sin2gen2, besides, call it a huge step in the right direction, from dual boot, to all by itself. Now my linux has 300 gigs to play with.. All for itself :-)
[04:48] <moyer> compiz fusion pre-installed would be cool
[04:48] <madman91> HOW Do i start a program each time i boot.. (command line ubuntu)
[04:48] <madman91> even before i login
[04:48] <mneptok> moyer: #ubuntu+1
[04:48] <madman91> in a screen session
[04:48] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  it will be a happy linux box
[04:48] <aajvs99> im lookin for developers
[04:48] <wolferine> madman91, well, you could use crontab
[04:48] <aajvs99> just think
[04:48] <mneptok> madman91: init.d
[04:48] <meoblast001> can VMware run previously isntalled OS's???
[04:48] <moyer> what?
[04:48] <aajvs99> you can have an os that is fit for you
[04:48] <madman91> mneptok: do i just put stuff in there?
[04:48] <wolferine> aajvs99, developers for what?
[04:48] <aajvs99> my distro
[04:49] <riotkittie> lol. ubuntu install has. uhm. 10 of my 340gb :x
[04:49] <wolferine> that doesnt appeal to me
[04:49] <mneptok> madman91: no, you read about how to do it correctly.
[04:49] <J-Wreck> what kind of stuff do they need to be able to do?
[04:49] <sin2gen2> meoblast001:  vm images can be imported, but i do not believe you can create an image from a running OS
[04:49] <madman91> mneptok: alrighty.. thanks
[04:49] <mneptok> !offtopic | aajvs99
[04:49] <ubotu> aajvs99: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:49] <genefitz> sin2gen, I hope it is, dual core, 2 gigs ram, 300 gig hard drive, and hey, to get a decent desktop, I only had to spend $50 for a 6100LE vice the $200 I paid for my other computer's 7950GT
[04:49] <xtknight> meoblast001,  p2v (physical to virtual), perhaps
[04:49] <aajvs99> this is not random
[04:50] <xtknight> meoblast001, but yes it can also dangerously read off a phyical disk and run that OS
[04:50] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  nice
[04:50] <mneptok> aajvs99: please do not use the public support channel to trawl for developers.
[04:50] <meoblast001> xtknight: what????
[04:50] <wolferine> aajvs99, its more suited in a different channel
[04:50] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i dig the dual core stuff
[04:50] <wers> how do I sync my evolution with my google calendar?
[04:50] <redwullf> sin2gen2: Still there?
[04:50] <xtknight> meoblast001, you can run already-installed OSes, it's just strongly not recommended
[04:50] <wolferine> trawl?
[04:50] <wolferine> hehe
[04:50] <pvl> is there a relationship between redhat linux and ubuntu?
[04:50] <meoblast001> xtknight: im only doing it to run 2 programs
[04:50] <J-Wreck> pvl, only that they both use the Linux kernel
[04:50] <wolferine> no, no relationship, Ubuntu is debian based
[04:50] <mneptok> pvl: yes. both are made by freedom loving humans.
[04:50] <madman91> mneptok: can i make a script like that run before any user logs in?
[04:50] <xtknight> meoblast001, wine won't work for them?
[04:51] <redwullf> The network controller is a "Boradcom Corp. BCM4318"
[04:51] <genefitz> sin2gen2, beauty of linux, I can do with a 1.9 pentium D what my other computer needed a 64X2 5200, and the linux box does everything faster
[04:51] <mneptok> madman91: that's what init is for
[04:51] <meoblast001> xtknight: no FL studio and Flash MX
[04:51] <sayers> is there a way I can upgrade to gutsy from 7.04?
[04:51] <pvl> j-wreck well would driver files work for both?
[04:51] <riotkittie> freedom, schreedom.
[04:51] <pvl> lol
[04:51] <sin2gen2> xtknight:  meoblast001: no way!  i'll check it out. sorry for the bad info
[04:51] <xtknight> !upgrade | sayers
[04:51] <ubotu> sayers: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:51] <redwullf> I've already checked on the wi-fi compatibility table in the Ubuntu Wiki and it suggested ndiswrapper with "mixed results."
[04:51] <xtknight> sin2gen2, dont work aobut it.  you're effectively right.  you should never run an OS off the physical disk anyway
[04:52] <J-Wreck> pvl i believe so
[04:52] <sin2gen2> xtknight:  yeah, but i have to play :)
[04:52] <mneptok> wolferine: i work with RH people every day. i count many as friends.
[04:52] <sin2gen2> xtknight:  haha
[04:52] <wolferine> mneptok, ok....
[04:52] <pvl> j-wreck ok ty
[04:52] <J-Wreck> np
[04:52] <riotkittie> there's too much love in this channel.
[04:52] <xtknight> meoblast001, ok well among driver problems you will risk data loss because it's at the mercy of vmware, and it's directly accessing the disk rather than one little image.  are you sure you dont just want to install it into a VM?
[04:52] <aajvs99> well if anyone is interested head over to http://avs.yfma.com/forum/
[04:52] <wolferine> dont mistake love for cheese :)
[04:53] <J-Wreck> **** off riotkittie
[04:53] <J-Wreck> better?
[04:53] <mneptok> wolferine: the employees of Canonical and RH both believe we're engaged in coopetition, not competition.
[04:53] <genefitz> lol J-Wreck
[04:53] <riotkittie> well i never :o
[04:53] <meoblast001> xtknight: do i have a choice when windows was preinstalled
[04:53] <redwullf> meoblast001: I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare...runs great and it's "risk free"
[04:53] <sayers> xtknight, didnt help much :)
[04:53] <xtknight> meoblast001, sure
[04:53] <xtknight> sayers, whY?
[04:53] <wolferine> competition is good, it can bring out the best in ppl
[04:53] <riotkittie> risk is fun :D
[04:53] <xtknight> sayers, gksu update-manager -c -d
[04:53] <xtknight> sayers, i believe
[04:54] <sayers> xtknight, 7.04 to 7.10
[04:54] <xtknight> sayers, add -c for experimental ubuntus
[04:54] <ectospasm> anyone know of a debian/ubuntu equivalent to Red Hat's logwatch?
[04:54] <genefitz> Here's an off the wall question, well, not really off the wall.
[04:54] <redwullf> riotkittie: Not with all of my other precious data on the Mac it isn't. ;)
[04:54] <B_166-ER-X> Am i the only one who doesnt have 'skyrocket' screensaver in Xscreensavers ?
[04:54] <riotkittie> you havent lived til youve totally hosed your data at least once
[04:54] <meoblast001> redwullf: the thing is... Windows runs slow... so i want to be able to stuff while i wait for windows to start
[04:54] <wolferine> o dpmt
[04:54] <mneptok> ectospasm: err .... "logwatch?"
[04:54] <wolferine> ops
[04:54] <wolferine> i dont*
[04:54] <ProN00b> omg, screensaver is so annoying, it always goes on when i am playing games or movies
[04:54] <mneptok> !info logwatch
[04:54] <ubotu> logwatch: log analyser with nice output written in Perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.3.1-5 (feisty), package size 243 kB, installed size 1864 kB
[04:54] <Frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: rss-glx
[04:54] <xtknight> sayers, er, add -d (devel) for expermeintal upgrades, rather.  gksu update-manager -c -d
[04:54] <mneptok> ectospasm: ^^^^
[04:54] <redwullf> meoblast001: Why not just replace Windows altogether. Do away with it. :)
[04:55] <sin2gen2> ProN00b:  yeah it i
[04:55] <sin2gen2> s
[04:55] <genefitz> Day, I have a hard drive moving from my <other> computer, to my linuz box, I am planning on formatting it to linux, what would be the best utility? GParted?
[04:55] <B_166-ER-X> Frogzoo,  thats the thing, i have the package installed, i dont understand why its not showing up
[04:55] <Frogzoo> mneptok: logwatch or swatch ???
[04:55] <J-Wreck> genefitz, that should be fine
[04:55] <sayers> xtknight, nope :)
[04:55] <asb002> I can't seem to get the Ubuntu cd to boot up on my laptop (Thinkpad T61)  It starts, and only goes to a blank black screen. The disc checks out and boots fine on another machine. Can anyone help?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> B_166-ER-X: read /usr/share/doc/rss-glx/
[04:55] <J-Wreck> Gparted is great
[04:55] <mneptok> Frogzoo: logwatch
[04:55] <wolferine> ProN00b, change the timing?
[04:55] <riotkittie> gparted is fine. i prefer the stand alone live cd version, tho.
[04:55] <meoblast001> redwullf: i will when Linux has the programs i need
[04:56] <wolferine> ProN00b, or are you really that much of a b00n ?
[04:56] <meoblast001> redwullf: when i release my own fancy pants OS i never started yet
[04:56] <redwullf> meoblast001: Wine may help fill the gap.
[04:56] <sin2gen2> someone in the gentoo channel is griping about emerge taking too long.  that's why i hang out with you guys
[04:56] <redwullf> LOL
[04:56] <meoblast001> redwullf: tried it
[04:56] <Frogzoo> mneptok: I mean have you tried both?
[04:56] <J-Wreck> lol@ sin2gen2
[04:56] <genefitz> J-Wreck, cool, I have a 750 Baracuda in my other box that has now become, well, an $800 19" widescreen TV/PVR. I don't figure I need the Cuda in there anymore..
[04:56] <J-Wreck> and we're more attractive
[04:56] <mneptok> Frogzoo: i run logwatch exclusively as it's what we have deplayed on GNOME infrastructure
[04:57] <mneptok> *deployed
[04:57] <sin2gen2> ya'll so pretty
[04:57] <meoblast001> i only switched to Linux cuz Windows was SLOW
[04:57] <riotkittie> looner: because ATI hates you. and me. :x    what kind of card, and what route are you taking to set dual monitors up?
[04:57] <meoblast001> but i still use WinDOS sometimes
[04:57] <xtknight> sayers, well other than "nope" it would really be helpful to have some kind of information
[04:58] <xtknight> sorry that is a lttle annoying
[04:58] <sin2gen2> meoblast001:  i'd mention why i switched but i can't flood
[04:58] <meoblast001> WinDOS -- a way of saying Windows is nothing more than DOS
[04:58] <looner> following the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[04:58] <Geek_> windows is more than dos ;)
[04:58] <sayers> xtknight, uncomfortable chair sorry :), okay No it does not give me an option to upgrade to 7.10, I believe because it isnt reading from the gutsy respos?
[04:58] <looner> it fails when i have the aticonfig --add-pairmode=whatever...   aticonfig --list-pairmode shows 0 always
[04:59] <B_166-ER-X> Frogzoo,  nice, thanks :)
[04:59] <meoblast001> Geek_: Windows doesn't have much usefullness though... its been running on the same basic stuff for years without edits
[04:59] <Geek_> erm
[04:59] <riotkittie> ahh. i don't use ati's driver :|
[04:59] <Geek_> windows was revamped at least once
[04:59] <xtknight> sayers, well there's also the manual method
[04:59] <xtknight> sayers, replacing 'feisty' with 'gutsy' in sources.list, and running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:59] <riotkittie> LoL. i feel masochistic. i might as well try to get dual monitors going on this box. brb.
[04:59] <sayers> xtknight, I trust the interface :)
[04:59] <looner> which do you use?
[04:59] <Geek_> and technically, linux is based on 60s fundamentals, designwise ;)
[04:59] <XPIRX> I need help setting up xserver on a remote server. vnc is setup but i get an error. all i see is this -- http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6176/42857482kc3.jpg Can anyone help?
[05:00] <xtknight> sayers, and i'd remove all extra repos other than official ubuntu repos.  "gksu update-manager -c -d" should be working, if it's not i have no idea.  pretty sure that's all you do normally
[05:00] <genefitz> riotkittie, are you using an nVidia card?
[05:00] <wolferine> XPIRX, are you logging into the box, before you VNC in?
[05:00] <XPIRX> wolferine Yes, im logged into via ssh.
[05:00] <redwullf> Geek_: I know, isn't it great.
[05:00] <XPIRX> in*
[05:00] <redwullf> Lots has changed since the 60's.
[05:00] <qiyong> what info roundcube stores in db?
[05:00] <wolferine> XPIRX, you should login to the box
[05:00] <riotkittie> genefitz: what part of 'feeling masochistic' did you miss? :P no, i'm using an ati.
[05:00] <xtknight> sayers, oh replace "feisty" with "gutsy" (sources.list), "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:00] <wolferine> XPIRX, then try and vnc in
[05:01] <genefitz> riotkittie, sorry, I didn't see the ATI part..
[05:01] <XPIRX> wolferine What you mean?
[05:01] <riotkittie> x300 to be exact. :|  i might take my husband's fancy schmancy nvidia tho.
[05:01] <wolferine> XPIRX, log into the server, then VNC into it, remotely
[05:01] <riotkittie> if it will work in this box.
[05:01] <genefitz> riotkittie, lol, just make sure he doesn't catch you
[05:01] <looner> i just want to install a version of linux that has dual monitor support with 3d enabled with as little work as possible. I've done many years of off and on tweaking, hacking, yelling screaming and crying... I just want to use the system to do some work now.... and preferably not windows, otherwise i wouldn't be here ;)
[05:02] <redwullf> Looner: Get a Mac.
[05:02] <XPIRX> wolferine Its remote
[05:02] <wolferine> looner, obviously its going to take some work
[05:02] <ziroday> looner: what cards?
[05:02] <redwullf> It'll dry those tears right up.
[05:02] <looner> x1600 radeon
[05:02] <wolferine> XPIRX, well, you have to login for it to allow the VNC properly
[05:02] <meoblast001> if im doing this VM crap im backing up my important stuff to my server
[05:02] <sin2gen2> looner:  i doubt any of that will work out of the box in linux.  but Ubuntu has the best forums to get it working
[05:02] <genefitz> looner, well, in any linux distro you will have to do some xorg config work, but if you are using an nVidia card, it isn't really that difficult..
[05:02] <wolferine> XPIRX, contact someone at the remote location
[05:03] <ziroday> looner: t hat isnt going to work out of the box
[05:03] <XPIRX> wolferine Isnt there a way to do it via ssh?
[05:03] <looner> wolverine.... well i've spent months on this before and wasn't able to get it working.
[05:03] <genefitz> well, except for having the monitor in the right part of the card.. I had my monitors backwards for a while and it drove me nuts..
[05:03] <wolferine> XPIRX, not sure how many times I have to tell you
[05:03] <riotkittie> genefitz: oh he's not going to mind. the card dies and locks everything up like a hundred times a day :P
[05:04] <wolferine> looner, you know beryl is just in its beginning stages, correct?
[05:04] <genefitz> riotkittie, lol, I haven't been that "lucky" yet..
[05:04] <looner> it doesn't have to work out of the box, (even if i said that above lol), just be easy to setup. Or at least have plenty of install / setup guides that are proven to work with more than a 25% chance that it's successfu..
[05:04] <looner> i haven't even reached getting beryl to work.
[05:04] <wolferine> looner nvidia?
[05:04] <J-Wreck> compiz fusion > beryl
[05:04] <looner> i'm not buying a video card just to get it to work.
[05:05] <genefitz> looner, beryl is great, but depending on your computer and the video card you are using, it is kind of a 50/50.
[05:05] <anathematic> hi i managed to lock myself out of mysql (ubuntu server + lamp) and the command to start the mysql demon process again from the ubuntu mysql password reset wiki doesnt seem to be working
[05:05] <Pelo> J-Wreck, compiz fusion = compiz + beryl
[05:05] <wolferine> looner, who said you had to buy avideo card?
[05:05] <scipio> looner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773624
[05:05] <looner> i have an ati radeon x1600
[05:05] <wolferine> looner, bingo
[05:05] <J-Wreck> Pelo, i know. I'm saying why would you run beryl, when you can have fusion
[05:05] <genefitz> not to sound pessimistic about it, but I never got beryl to work on my old computer with the 7950  nVidia, but it works like a carm on this computer with the 6100LE
[05:05] <wolferine> looner, email ati and ask them why it doesnt work easily for you, and see what they have to say
[05:06] <genefitz> carm = charm by the way..
[05:06] <looner> LOL! like i'll get a response ;)
[05:06] <genefitz> I am kind of a typo machine
[05:06] <Pelo> J-Wreck, beryl still has an eaiser configuration gui i beleive
[05:06] <wolferine> looner, you would, um.. we dont do drivers for linux, why would we support them?
[05:06] <sin2gen2> looner:  wolferine: and ask them why AIGLX isn't happening
[05:06] <slavik`lap> what was the question?
[05:06] <slavik`lap> wolferine: you work for amd?
[05:07] <wolferine> sin2gen2, im sure we could come up with lots of questions :)
[05:07] <J-Wreck> I've used both, and the config GUI's are pretty similar in ease of use for both
[05:07] <J-Wreck> at least to me
[05:07] <wolferine> slavik`lap, should I ?
[05:07] <slavik`lap> wolferine: no
[05:07] <wolferine> slavik`lap, agreed :)
[05:07] <Pelo> J-Wreck, It's been a while for me and I only realy saw screenshots of c-f
[05:07] <slavik`lap> wolferine: as I see it, amd is in a deep hole unless the pull a CPU out of their behind ... same with a GPU
[05:07] <looner> my priorities are: #1... get dual monitor to work.. and have them different (currently cloned). #2. get 3d to work WITH the dual monitors. #3. get the fancy stuff to work. ... #3 is optional., this also includes wine for games.
[05:07] <sin2gen2> yeah, where's the amd employee here?
[05:07] <J-Wreck> \me cheers
[05:08] <slavik`lap> looner: user fglrx in big desktop mode
[05:08] <genefitz> Hey, they are moving in the right direction, both nVidia and ATI are actually starting to support linux. Maybe too little too late, but what choice do we have?
[05:08] <looner> i'm currently running off the ubuntu live cd.
[05:08] <Pelo> J-Wreck,  the other way around /me ...
[05:08] <slavik`lap> s/user/use/
[05:08] <genefitz> It isn't like there are a lot of video card choices..
[05:08] <el_taco> with fakeroot if I want to add config options to the package i'm building how is that done?
[05:08] <BRUUUCE> this may sound dumb, but ubuntu downloads files much much faster. i also have osx and xp in the house. is this due to the OS or the fact ubuntu is wired in.
[05:08] <slavik`lap> genefitz: nvidia, ati, intel, matrox
[05:08] <politik> what is the proper way to launch an app as another user, like if I want a user that only runs the svn server? I've already made the user and chowned my repository, I just need to know how to launch svnserve correctly
[05:09] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  true.  but we are an impatient bunch.  support windows users second
[05:09] <slavik`lap> politik: is svn supposed to run as that user?
[05:09] <politik> slavik`lap: yep
[05:09] <genefitz> Oh yeah, I forgot about intel. lol Do they make 3d drivers now?
[05:09] <slavik`lap> politik: I mean svn itself, not the way you are setting itup
[05:09] <looner> i'm tried everything i can think of to get dual monitors to work on this machine. several flavours, etc... no luck on any. I once got dual, but no 3d.
[05:09] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  they are used to crashes and won't even notice haha
[05:09] <slavik`lap> genefitz: best supported :)
[05:09] <genefitz> sin2gen2: I feel ya there buddy
[05:09] <el_taco> looner what video card?
[05:09] <politik> slavik`lap: sorry, I don't understand
[05:09] <politik> what is "svn itself"
[05:10] <slavik`lap> politik: apache2 runs as the www-user user
[05:10] <politik> slavik`lap: right, I want to create a similar setup for svn
[05:10] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  seriously, amd is on top of the driver releases and my fglrx is extremely stable.  props to that
[05:10] <politik> I want svnserve to run as the svnserve user
[05:10] <politik> which I've already made
[05:10] <slavik`lap> politik: then su user, enter the password and run the svn daemon
[05:10] <looner> i've tried the proprietary drives, livna drivers, other drives, every guide i could think of, the native tools...
[05:10] <slavik`lap> looner: what video card?
[05:10] <politik> slavik`lap: I'd like to be able to do this from a shell script
[05:10] <looner> ati radeon x1600
[05:11] <sin2gen2> looner:  uh oh
[05:11] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I did e-mail Acer and ask about their piecer AL1916W screen and asked why I couldn't get 1440x900 resolution in Linux, they replied "What video card are you using? Well ask them."
[05:11] <politik> slavik`lap: that my usual user can launch without a prompt, that is
[05:11] <el_taco> lol LOL I have that card.. I gave up after 4 days and bought an nvidia
[05:11] <genefitz> Let me tell ya, that's the last Acer product I will ever buy..
[05:11] <sin2gen2> looner:  i have the x1300 and an x1400.  all this stuff with work with only the drivers from the site
[05:12] <wolferine> nite everyone
[05:12] <slavik`lap> politik: if the user has a password, I am not sure, if he doesn't, then I think it should work (shouldn't promt for pass)
[05:12] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  they don't know anything.  they just assemble parts and refer you.  been there
[05:12] <looner> lovely.... maybe i'll come back in a year and maybe my card will be supported by then.
[05:12] <genefitz> wolverine, Later, peace!
[05:12] <UbuntuNewb> hey what is a good p2p prog for ubuntu
[05:12] <Nunzio> Frostwire
[05:12] <el_taco> looner yeah.. I wasn't that patient
[05:12] <slavik`lap> UbuntuNewb: what do you need p2p for?
[05:13] <J-Wreck> i'm with Nunzio, frostwire is great
[05:13] <sin2gen2> looner:  just give it a few days and get it to work.  you'll learn a lot and be able to lend a hand to other unlucky ati people here
[05:13] <UbuntuNewb> why not
[05:13] <genefitz> sin2gen2, that goes for about all hardware manufacturers anymore. Like a bunch of kids and a broken window. everyone points at someone else..
[05:13] <mneptok> Nunzio: gtk-gnutella / aMule
[05:13] <slavik`lap> UbuntuNewb: I am asking, not telling
[05:13] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  it's terrible
[05:13] <slavik`lap> genefitz: it's called corporate accountability
[05:14] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  lenovo and dell know what's up.  gateway seems to be getting better.  but i only deal in laptops
[05:14] <looner> sin2gen2... i've been down the road of trying to get it to work. i'm only recently checking ubuntu out after a long break. i spent at least 2-3 months trying to get it to work.
[05:14] <slavik`lap> even though ever user agreement says that if shit breaks, you're on your own
[05:14] <sin2gen2> slavik`lap:  genefitz: or lack of it
[05:14] <genefitz> sin2gen, all it will take is one manufacturere to say "Don't worry, if you have linux, we got you covered!"
[05:14] <mneptok> !ohmy > slavik`lap
[05:14] <genefitz> When the other companies start losing money, then the whole shift will occour
[05:14] <slavik`lap> wow, 1 word and here come the !ohmy factoids
[05:15] <slavik`lap> might as well through an !o4o in there, too. :(
[05:15] <looner> genefitz! that's the funniest example i've heard!
[05:15] <sin2gen2> looner:  well shucks.  sorry about that
[05:15] <mneptok> slavik`lap: if you're familiar with the factoid, don't use the words.
[05:15] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I agree, Dell and Lenovo are picking up on the trend. Why not it is the best way to get rid of slightly outdated gear, and make money where they would usually take a loss..
[05:15] <slavik`lap> it was 1 word and would you like me to use another word with similar meaning?
[05:15] <mneptok> slavik`lap: i want you to follow the channel policies
[05:16] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  i love thinkpads.  the site tells you how, with pics, to take them apart and clean them haha
[05:16] <genefitz> You can sell a P4 computer with Ubuntu for $300 - $400, and make a profit out of older gear that (the other company) can no longer use..
[05:16] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  Michael Dell uses Ubuntu, according to Slashdot
[05:16] <aajvs99> i use ubuntu
[05:16] <looner> sin2gen2, it also doesn't help that i'm the only one i know who even touches linux. That is, outside of the net
[05:17] <sin2gen2> i use ubuntu too!  wow!
[05:17] <Pelo> sin2gen2, micheal dell has computers with every OSes
[05:17] <genefitz> Really? Interesting, talk about a slap in the face of gates...lol
[05:17] <sin2gen2> looner:  you are a brave soul
[05:17] <kitche> sin2gen2, not according to Slashdot but according to his homepage
[05:17] <slavik`lap> looner: I have the only linux computer in a building of over 600 computers
[05:17] <mushroomjay> Everyone not running Ubuntu or a Debian based distro, raise your hands!
[05:17] <sin2gen2> Pelo:  i bet he has an iPhone too
[05:17] <mneptok> Pelo: i doubt he has a Mac.
[05:17] <Pelo> sin2gen2, probably
[05:18] <slavik`lap> so, looner, still need help with fglrx?
[05:18] <Pelo> 
[05:18] <testingub> hi, i'm testing ubuntu, i'm running on the cd right now but i notice when i click on Add/Remove from Applications I can't find common programs that I use like apache, smartd, and others... is this because i'm running from cd right now and after i install the os it will be there or do i have to install it some other way?
[05:18] <looner> getting 3d to work is second on my list.. i want dual monitor first, unless they come hand in hand.
[05:18] <Pelo> mneptok, if he is smart he knows that part of is job is to evaluate the competition
[05:18] <Pelo> his job
[05:18] <genefitz> looner: don't feel alone, I am the only one I hang around with that uses linux. Although, I just walked my father through an Absolute Linux install for his business computer. He is excited...
[05:18] <slavik`lap> testingub: I don't think apache will be there (but your reason sounds reasonable), may I suggest trying synaptic?
[05:19] <mneptok> Pelo: if he's smart he realizes his pay rate makes such testing better suited to lower level employees ;)
[05:19] <slavik`lap> looner: it does both ...
[05:19] <genefitz> It was a junker P-2, 64 Meg ram, and a 10 Gig Hdd..
[05:19] <testingub> slavik`lap: how do i try synaptic?
[05:19] <J-Wreck> testingub, you can install them with the command "sudo apt-get install <package name>"
[05:19] <genefitz> But Linux runs like a dream on it..
[05:19] <greenkobold> about making a live cd out of my runnig distro with bootcdwrite, could anyone kindly see this output, from line 38 to 43, I have no idea of what is going on: http://paste.milk-it.net/555
[05:19] <sin2gen2> kitche:  i thought i saw a story on Slashdot a while back.  my bad
[05:19] <slavik`lap> testingub: system -> administration -> synaptic
[05:19] <J-Wreck> sin2gen2 and kitche, its quite possible a slashdot story linked to his page
[05:20] <testingub> J-Wreck: how do i view all the applications available to me via apt-get? also i don't know the root password for running off the cd
[05:20] <J-Wreck> when running off the cd, you don't need the root password
[05:20] <Pelo> testingub, there are 28k pakcages available on apt-get
[05:20] <sin2gen2> looner:  i am pretty sure you need the drivers on the AMD site and not the restricted xorg-driver-fglrx from Ubuntu for the x1600.  anyone else?
[05:20] <kitche> you don't need the root password at all but on the livecd you jsut press enter I believe and it works
[05:20] <testingub> slavik`lap: i see i found a lot mroe stuff there than the Add/Remove program
[05:20] <slavik`lap> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305665
[05:20] <genefitz> J-Wreck: I thought in live mode, Root Password was root..
[05:21] <genefitz> <~~ could be wrong
[05:21] <mushroomjay> I'm having trouble installing Firefox 2, could someone who is willing to help please start a private chat?
[05:21] <testingub> ok what is the Add/Remove program managing then? i have different packages?
[05:21] <slavik`lap> testingub: because synaptic lists everything available in the repositories, add/remove doesn't
[05:21] <J-Wreck> I think there is no root/sudo password in live mode
[05:21] <testingub> slavik`lap: what is the point of add/remove then?
[05:21] <genefitz> J-Wreck, you are probably right..
[05:21] <Pelo> testingub, add/remove covers only applications,  not the rest,  you can view more in synaptic pacakge manager in the admin menu
[05:21] <slavik`lap> testingub: add/remove only has some selected apps
[05:21] <sin2gen2> J-Wreck:  sudo passwd root haha
[05:21] <looner> K I'LL PRINT THAT OUT.
[05:21] <genefitz> <~~ the oddball here, Using Fedora KDE and hanging out in Ubuntu chat...lol
[05:21] <looner> bah!
[05:21] <slavik`lap> testingub: don't you think add/remove is a bit "easier" to use?
[05:21] <looner> dang caps
[05:22] <mneptok> sin2gen2: please don't. not even joking.
[05:22] <slavik`lap> genefitz: use a real distro :P
[05:22] <seanj> my computer didn't like Fedora :/
[05:22] <patattack> hey all, I am having problems playing DVD movies. I can't even get them to play in VLC
[05:22] <slavik`lap> !restricted
[05:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:22] <sin2gen2> <-- on the Gentoo iBook and hanging out in #ubuntu
[05:22] <testingub> slavik`lap: no, they both seem the same
[05:22] <slavik`lap> testingub: but add/remove has ratings and such
[05:22] <genefitz> slavik'lap: Ubuntu gives this computer hell, for some reason...lol
[05:23] <genefitz> lol Pelo
[05:23] <slavik`lap> Pelo: don't be a distribution "germans during WW2 time"
[05:23] <seanj> Pelo: me too, with a new, crappier keyboard
[05:23] <testingub> thanks guys
[05:23] <Pelo> slavik`lap, tar and feathers are american wild west
[05:23] <xs4545x> hey all
[05:23] <testingub> do you guys consider ubuntu good as a server as well or is it good just as a desktop?
[05:23] <xs4545x> i just ran into a problem with ubuntu
[05:24] <mushroomjay> Fedora is a better server.
[05:24] <J-Wreck> whats your problem xs4545x?
[05:24] <slavik`lap> testingub: I consider freebsd a better server :P but a bit more difficult to set up
[05:24] <Montaro> ubuntu is very good as a server
[05:24] <slavik`lap> !ask | xs4545x
[05:24] <ubotu> xs4545x: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:24] <looner> i'll be back after i try this new guide
[05:24] <testingub> slavik`lap: right, i am using freebsd but i'm considering something else for my webs ervers
[05:24] <seanj> !restricted
[05:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:24] <seanj> ah great
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !libdvdcss2
[05:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:24] <xs4545x> j-wreck: it's not muck of a problem but when i enable the desktop effects i lost the ability to select windows
[05:24] <slavik`lap> but, I can set up a basic lamp server with ubuntu in 2 hours, that includes installing ubuntu
[05:24] <testingub> slavik`lap: <3 freebsd carp, pf, and all that good stuff
[05:24] <Montaro> slavik`lap: i have to agree freebsd is probably a better server, specificly due to its unsurpassed memory management just to name a few features.. but ubuntu is still the only linux distro i would use
[05:25] <slavik`lap> testingub: I suggest staying with freebsd :)
[05:25] <slavik`lap> Montaro: freebsd isn'tlinux :P
[05:25] <genefitz> seanj: never buy a crappy keyboard. When I built this box, I got the $4.99 special at fry's, it lasted all the way till I connected it to my computer. The Esc key got stuck. I took it apart to fix it, they keys went all over the place, the rest of it flew across the room, and I went to best buy for a new (better) keyboard...lol
[05:25] <testingub> slavik`lap: and only using ubuntu as a desktop os?
[05:25] <seanj> genefitz: lol, sounds like my last keyboard
[05:25] <Montaro> slavik`lap: i know, im just saying if u were gonna go linux, i'd go ubuntu. otherwise stick with freebsd :P
[05:25] <seanj> this one is err... Microsoft :/
[05:25] <mneptok> FreeBSD >4.x is .... meh.
[05:25] <patattack> genefitz: dude, I only buy cheep keyboards. Even the best keyboard is not beer proof
[05:26] <macaholic> I like ubuntu because of the awesome support there is, and very active development :D
[05:26] <J-Wreck> xs4545x, you could try install compiz-fusion
[05:26] <mneptok> anyhow, this is offtopic
[05:26] <J-Wreck> it works much better then the built in effects
[05:26] <slavik`lap> if you want to be able to configure things easily, ubuntu. if you want blood, debian. if you also want to learn what runs on very powerful computers (SPARC), the solaris, if you want something that just works no matter what (and not linux),then freebsd
[05:26] <sin2gen2> patattack:  Goodwill $1 variety withstands beer pretty good
[05:26] <xs4545x> installing compiz fussion...
[05:26] <xs4545x> hmm
[05:26] <mneptok> please move the distro/Unix choice discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:26] <xs4545x> i'll take a look
[05:26] <genefitz> patattack, well, I didn't look at the keyboard when I bought it, it had the old style (huge) connection on it, instead of PS2, so I had to use that huge adapter and all that...
[05:26] <macaholic> compiz fusion is the shit
[05:27] <macaholic> its come so far in such a short time
[05:27] <slavik`lap> !ohmy > macaholic
[05:27] <J-Wreck> xs4545x: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[05:27] <testingub> how do i setup a raid 1 setup during the install of ubuntu?
[05:27] <patattack> sin2gen2: yeah, and to top it all off, I've taken a hammer to a couple of keyboards
[05:27] <slavik`lap> might as well beat mneptok at it
[05:27] <genefitz> It wasn't very pretty to begin with.. I replaced it with a $20 micro
[05:27] <proqesi> I have an RALink 2500 wireless card I can't seem to get working, is there a howto on setting it up?  I'm using ubuntu server
[05:27] <sin2gen2> patattack:  they deserve it
[05:27] <testingub> i'm at the prepare partitions place
[05:27] <Pelo> !raid > testingub check your private message windows for a message from ubot3
[05:27] <mneptok> slavik`lap: do you really want to pick a fight with me?
[05:27] <patattack> genefitz: ahh, an AT keyboard, I think I have one of those somewhere
[05:27] <proqesi> !wireless
[05:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:27] <slavik`lap> mneptok: not yet in any case
[05:27] <mneptok> slavik`lap: please take one giant step backwards out of my face.
[05:27] <looner> problem already... i can't install "module-assistant"
[05:28] <slavik`lap> !offtopic | mneptok
[05:28] <ubotu> mneptok: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:28] <slavik`lap> :)
[05:28] <genefitz> patattack, well, needless to say, Gene learned a lesson not to buy anything without lookin at it.. lol
[05:28] <sin2gen2> looner:  pastebin the error, if you will
[05:28] <mneptok> slavik`lap: stop. it. now.
[05:28] <mneptok> clear?
[05:28] <Vic1ous> hey can someone help me i'm new to ubuntu/linux i installed ubuntu 64 but everytime it gets installed and goes to boot i get a black screen
[05:28] <Vic1ous> i have a 8800gtx graphics card i dont know if that helps
[05:29] <Vic1ous> i checked etc/X11/xorg.conf and it showed driver as "nv"
[05:29] <Montaro> Vic1ous: do you have a 64bit processor? :P
[05:29] <looner> http://pastebin.ca/659114
[05:29] <Vic1ous> yes
[05:29] <mneptok> slavik`lap: why? you picked fights with the wrong people there, too?
[05:29] <Montaro> just checking ;)
[05:29] <genefitz> Vic1ous, hmm, let me see what I can find for ya..
[05:29] <patattack> genefitz: haha, I think we have all done that, gene. it's kind of like marrying a woman without "knowing" her first
[05:29] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  change the video to vesa for now, i suggest
[05:29] <macaholic> just black or is there text and if so what does it say?
[05:29] <slavik`lap> mneptok: I just don't think that 1 fould word deserves an !ohmy, especially inside of a privmsg
[05:29] <Vic1ous> so change the driver to vesa
[05:30] <genefitz> patattack, does this mean I should cancel my russian bride service? ;-)
[05:30] <mneptok> slavik`lap: you are entitled to your opinion. you are not entitled to be an ass to my face.
[05:30] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  just to get things going.  you can work on the nvidia driver later
[05:30] <patattack> genefitz: I am not one to discourage brining new breeding stock into this country...
[05:30] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  i use the drivers from Nvidia for my cards.  it has a decent installer
[05:30] <feross> hello is there a way to install .pup packages in ubuntu?
[05:30] <genefitz> patattack, lol
[05:31] <Vic1ous> ok i'm booting into recovery mode right now
[05:31] <kitche> feross, is that for puppy if it is then no
[05:31] <J-Wreck> not that I know of, feross
[05:31] <Pelo> feross, what the heck is a pup package ?
[05:31] <patattack> ok, so I've installed the restricted packages, which I never did on my previous install, and DVD still wont work.
[05:31] <J-Wreck> Pelo, they are for Puppy Linux
[05:31] <patattack> in fact, ubuntu says that it is a blank disc
[05:31] <J-Wreck> you can most likely find a .deb of anything that has a .pup, however
[05:31] <proqesi> hmm, is there any wireless howto for ubuntu server 7.04?  I don't have a UI
[05:31] <feross> kitche: yeah, puppy linux  < Pelo
[05:31] <genefitz> Vic1ous, you may want to look here, it deals with your issue, feisty and the 8800GTX http://www.robdian.co.uk/content/view/56/
[05:32] <Pelo> feross,  get the source and compile it , it is probably much safer
[05:32] <Vic1ous> ok thx
[05:32] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  once in vesa you can configure restricted nvidia drivers or the Nvidia binaries from the site and a little xorg modification for the proper res
[05:32] <Vic1ous> i chenged the driver to "vesa" i'm rebooting now
[05:32] <Pelo> feross,  or better yes, check the repos first
[05:32] <feross> Pelo: been looking for it. It's the remotedesktopclient ... it works better than the ubuntu one
[05:32] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  might need a vga=### option in grub if you can't see the Ubuntu usplash, as well
[05:32] <genefitz> Vic1ous, here is where I started http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=523812
[05:32] <oTToRoCk> 
[05:33] <Pelo> feross, google the name , it should be available , all FOSS is supose to be
[05:33] <Vic1ous> ok it did the same thing with changing it to "vesa"
[05:33] <slavik`lap> who had the livecd thingy problem?
[05:33] <el_taco> with fakeroot if I want to add config options to the package i'm building how is that done?
[05:33] <slavik`lap> fakeroot vim config.file
[05:34] <feross> Pelo: when I said I'd been looking for it I didn't mean in my living room... ofcourse I googled it ;P ..
[05:34] <el_taco> slavik`lap thanks
[05:34] <ker> #panas
[05:34] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  do you see the Grub menu or press ESC dialogue on boot?
[05:34] <Vic1ous> yea
[05:34] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  and it boots the image?
[05:34] <Pelo> feross, I meant no insult,  the skill level of  ppl here varies greatly
[05:34] <Vic1ous> yea
[05:34] <Vic1ous> from the cd anyways
[05:34] <Vic1ous> when it boots hd
[05:35] <feross> Pelo: no prob, I'm just bustin your nuts ;P
[05:35] <feross> thanks
[05:35] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  what happens after the install stuff and a reboot?
[05:35] <Vic1ous> it showed Ubuntu, Kernel 2.6.20-15generic
[05:35] <looner> that error tell you anything?
[05:35] <jisatsu> how can I make a script run as part of the boot sequence? I need to run a script to configure my wireless every time I boot
[05:35] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  and when you boot that?
[05:36] <Vic1ous> black screen
[05:36] <knoppix> !mountwindowsshare
[05:36] <Pelo> feross, should be available on he puppy linux site, somewhere, probably burried deep
[05:36] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  you never see any words go by?
[05:36] <feross> yeah
[05:36] <patattack> does anyone know why my DVD burner would see a DVD movie as a blank disc? Not even VLC will play it. I've done the restricted packages install. On my last feisty install it worked fine, with only VLC
[05:36] <Vic1ous> for like 2 seconds
[05:36] <Vic1ous> then it black screens
[05:36] <slavik`lap> !ntfs | knoppix
[05:36] <ubotu> knoppix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:37] <mushroomjay> Hi everyone. I need help installing flash.
[05:37] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  does it ever re-appear after the splash (you can't see the splash but X might start if you wait a few minutes)
[05:37] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I actually want to share a thing so other computers can see it
[05:37] <xs4545x> hi mushroomjay
[05:37] <slavik`lap> mushroomjay: adobe has a package with an install script
[05:37] <xs4545x> that is something i just did today
[05:37] <Pelo> !flash | mushroomjay just install it from the repos
[05:37] <ubotu> mushroomjay just install it from the repos: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:37] <xs4545x> totally easy
[05:37] <slavik`lap> knoppix: read about samba :)
[05:37] <Vic1ous> no i waited for like 20 minutes
[05:37] <Vic1ous> nothin happened
[05:37] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I know about samba, I just have a life and don't memorize commands
[05:37] <mushroomjay> I know, but it says to place the .tar.gz in the firefox directory in usr/lib.
[05:37] <mushroomjay> It won't let me write files there.
[05:37] <slavik`lap> knoppix: neither do I :(
[05:37] <knoppix> I'm just looking for the wiki page on it
[05:38] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  ok.  i would boot the LiveCD (install disk)
[05:38] <genefitz> Ya know, I never realized how much time it took to transfer 70 Gigs through a network..
[05:38] <Vic1ous> and when in recovery mode and i type "startx" it says server x not installed apt-get serverx
[05:38] <kdubois> i can't play mp3 files in rhythmbox. ogg works alright, and mp3 works in vlc. I dont know wahts going on here... any ideas?
[05:38] <Vic1ous> so i type apt-get
[05:38] <xs4545x> mushroomjay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-3f4b65ab5f0a93fab9b45dae1d5059723720b802
[05:38] <Pelo> mushroomjay,   in the terminal type  gksu nautilus  that will give you root access to drag drop
[05:38] <Vic1ous> and it says apt-get not installed
[05:38] <genefitz> I think my router is just going to say "to hell with this guy"
[05:38] <rpedro> hello, is there a list of the community sites that were compromised earlier?
[05:38] <looner> i wonder how much it would cost to get someone to setup ubuntu the way i want on my pc. Then show me how.
[05:38] <mushroomjay> Thanks, xs4545x.
[05:38] <xs4545x> no problem
[05:39] <xs4545x> everybody is helping me so if i can i will help where i can
[05:39] <knoppix> hey guys how do I share things so windows computers can see them
[05:39] <koroke> hello  room
[05:39] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  from the install CD's environment you can remove the option to have the splash kick off
[05:39] <maxxism> knoppix use samba
[05:39] <Pelo> looner, 250 $ for one year of support 9-5
[05:39] <genefitz> rpedro, apparently not too many, I have been in the community sites, welll, at least for the last 3 hours
[05:39] <shiester_miester> gday everyone
[05:39] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  and see where, exactly, the machine hangs
[05:39] <knoppix> maxxism, I know about samba...
[05:39] <shiester_miester> does ubuntu support touch-screens on laptops and such?
[05:39] <Vic1ous> where is the splash kick off options
[05:39] <knoppix> I'm just wondering if you know a tutorial on it
[05:39] <slavik`lap> knoppix: right click and click share?
[05:40] <knoppix> I don't remember the exact commands
[05:40] <slavik`lap> knoppix: set up nfs :)
[05:40] <maxxism> knoppix then you knew the answer to your question
[05:40] <knoppix> slavik`lap, there you go, I forgot it waqs that easy haha
[05:40] <xs4545x> anyway, i'm looking at this document for installing compiz-fusion and in updating my repositories it says to use the deb command...  for some reason i'm missing this and can't find it in synaptic
[05:40] <genefitz> knoppix, Samba is probably the best tool for file sharing in KDE
[05:40] <lmosher> I'm being haunted by a ghost partition. I delete the partition in GParted, reboot the liveCD, and run GParted. When I try to create a new partition it somehow finds the old partition and automounts it... then mkfs complains that the partition is mounted so it obviously can't write a new partition!
[05:40] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  in your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[05:40] <rpedro> genefitz: I'm just wondering if any popular repos are involved....
[05:40] <knoppix> maxxism, whatever
[05:40] <looner> pelo, there a "if they can't do it i get my money back" guarantee?
[05:40] <lmosher> How do I repair my disk... this is crazy.
[05:40] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  you can turn off the "splash" setting and reboot
[05:40] <slavik`lap> lmosher: define "repair"
[05:40] <genefitz> rpedro, I am not sure..
[05:40] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  then choose the image and see where it boinks
[05:40] <Pelo> looner, I wouldn'T know I just gave you the raite for the cannonical commercial support
[05:40] <shiester_miester> I'm thinking about buying a laptop with sone of those cool stylus screen thingies, but I'm not sure if ubuntu supports it
[05:41] <kdubois> shiester_miester: i'm on a tablet right now. it works great. stylus worked out of the box. thinkpad x61 tablet
[05:41] <slavik`lap> shiester_miester: a tablet pc? call them and ask, if they don't support us, tell them you will take your business elsewhere and don't buy from them
[05:41] <Pelo> shiester_miester,  ifyou have a model number look it up here and in the forum  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:41] <Chrisie> hiya, with GAIM 2 is there any way to tell it what range of ports to use for dcc
[05:41] <slavik`lap> us = linux
[05:41] <shiester_miester> thats great to hear, kdubois\
[05:41] <genefitz> knoppix, I use Samba for my network shares.. I haven't ever had an issue.. What exactly are you looking at doing?
[05:41] <feross> Pelo: ok, found it in freshmeat... going to install
[05:42] <Pelo> feross, best of luck
[05:42] <Vic1ous> k i'm booting into the live cd now
[05:42] <lmosher> slavik`lap: Read the line above. I want to be able to build a partition - right now when I go to build a partition, gparted somehow magically finds the old (deleted) partition and mounts it.
[05:42] <looner> bah. screw it. i can't figure this out. I'm going back to crapdows xp :S I'll check back in a year and see if things have gotten better.
[05:42] <knoppix> genefitz, yeah I don't have an issue either, I'm just trying to share a file/folder using samba but can't see how, I'm on KDE, but on gnome, I just right clicked the file, on KDE there doesn't seem to be a 'share' option
[05:42] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  do you know how to mount your hd in linux?
[05:42] <Vic1ous> sudo gparted?
[05:42] <Pelo> looner, the next release is in 2 monhs
[05:42] <tacos> anyone know how to connect a ubuntu machine to a domain run by server 2008?
[05:42] <looner> k 2 months then ;)
[05:43] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  nah
[05:43] <Vic1ous> i tried =p
[05:43] <shiester_miester> anyone seen bruenig around?
[05:43] <genefitz> knoppix, you are trying to share files from a gnome to a KDE computer?
[05:43] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  everything is installed we just want to edit a little bit
[05:43] <xs4545x> seriously, the deb command?  wtf is that
[05:43] <shiester_miester> genefitz, the GUI isn't responsible for file sharing, thats what the networking services do, and samba, I believe
[05:43] <knoppix> genefitz, uh, no, I said that in GNOME I just right click a file and click 'share' to share it using samba, but on KDE there is no such feature that I can see, so how else do I do it, is there a terminal command for it?
[05:44] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  open a terminal from Accessories -> Terminal
[05:44] <scratchme> Hi all.
[05:44] <shiester_miester> gday
[05:44] <shiester_miester> coi!
[05:44] <genefitz> knoppix, okay, hold on let me see if I can find you a solution..
[05:44] <Vic1ous> hey sin2gen2 can i pm u cause i'm having to jump between computers and i'm losing my place
[05:44] <scratchme> What's a nice development app that has a Visual Studio "feel" to it?
[05:44] <hotdog003> I need help getting ndiswrapper in 1.8 working in feisty. It seems like it won't compile.
[05:44] <knoppix> genefitz, thanks I appreciate it
[05:44] <scratchme> That works in Ubuntu that is.
[05:44] <sin2gen2> Vic1ous:  yep
[05:44] <shiester_miester> scratchme, what aspect of visual studio are you after?
[05:44] <greenkobold> there seems to be a file here that is not aceessible to the super user. mkisofs: Permission denied. cannot open '/sys/module/sbs/parameters/capacity_mode' how can i allow root to open it?
[05:44] <shiester_miester> visual basic? c++?
[05:45] <lmosher> Can someone help me un-brick my laptop? Right now I'm just trying to build an ext3 partition from GParted in the liveCD and it won't let me make a partition.
[05:45] <scratchme> shiester_miester, syntax completion, code highlighting, etc.
[05:45] <kdubois> scratchme: i use geany, its real lightweight though. try eclipse if you're looking for something a little bit heavy duty, i think
[05:45] <kdubois> anjuta is pretty good too
[05:45] <knoppix> scratchme, if .Net, get Monodevelop
[05:45] <knoppix> scratchme, there is also KDevelop and Anjuta
[05:45] <scratchme> Is the C# plugin for eclipse getting any traction?
[05:45] <knoppix> scratchme, dude, if you want C# support, you can't get anything better than monodevelop, trust me...
[05:45] <genefitz> okay knoppix, I think I have your solution..
[05:46] <knoppix> genefitz, thanks
[05:46] <shiester_miester> scratchme, lots of IDE's have those features
[05:46] <genefitz> Knoppix, right click on the file you want to share, and hit "properties"
[05:46] <knoppix> genefitz, okay
[05:46] <shiester_miester> scratchme, I suggest you google "linux [visual basic/c++]  IDE" and look for one with those features
[05:46] <tacos> anyone know how to join an ubuntu machine to a server 2008 domain?
[05:46] <shiester_miester> but I'm positive you will find some
[05:46] <genefitz> there should be a share tab on the box that comes up.
[05:46] <scratchme> shiester_miester, knoppix kdubois, thanks for your suggestions.
[05:46] <scratchme> I appreciate your input.
[05:47] <knoppix> scratchme, listen, I'm a C# programmer, monodevelop is the best you can get on linux at the moment
[05:47] <knoppix> scratchme, no problem
[05:47] <jstarcher> where do I get Tcl?
[05:47] <shiester_miester> no worries
[05:47] <xs4545x> oh jesus, i'm such a newb.  i'm not even reading this right
[05:47] <shiester_miester> knoppix, what other languages does it support
[05:47] <knoppix> genefitz, there isn't, but don't worry man it's alright
[05:47] <shiester_miester> xs4545x, dont worry, we all are noobs relative to someone else ;)
[05:47] <knoppix> shiester_miester, it supports pretty much any .Net language
[05:47] <slavik`lap> anjuta, kdevelop, codeblocks (more complicated), single file type = geany, gedit
[05:47] <lmosher> How do I tell the Ubuntu LiveCD -NOT- to mount my swap partiton (so I can delete it) or how can I get it to stop using it so i can delete it while in the liveCD?
[05:47] <scratchme> knoppix, for mono development is the packages in 7.04 for mono sufficient?
[05:47] <genefitz> Okay knoppix, sorry I couldn't be more help..
[05:47] <knoppix> C#.Net, VB.Net, Boo, etc.
[05:47] <shiester_miester> knoppix, c++, oldschool?
[05:47] <sin2gen2> tacos:  wow.  you want to share files of have the thing in Active Directory?
[05:47] <shiester_miester> can't say I'm crazy about all the .net stuff...
[05:48] <slavik`lap> knoppix: do you write .net code or mono code?
[05:48] <ProN00b> hmm, does mono develop open .net studio 2k5 projects ?
[05:48] <knoppix> shiester_miester, no...but you can get another IDE for that, Anjuta or KDevelop
[05:48] <knoppix> slavik`lap, they're the same thing...
[05:48] <knoppix> slavik`lap, And yes I do
[05:48] <slavik`lap> knoppix: not really, last someone told me, mono didn't support C# 2.0 well
[05:48] <lmosher> Can someone help me, or is talking about programming languages -really- what this channel is about?
[05:48] <slavik`lap> or whatever C# 2.0 is supposed to be
[05:48] <knoppix> slavik`lap, well, what I mean is that there isn't a .Net code nor Mono code, they're just frameworks and specificsations
[05:49] <knoppix> *specificatoins
[05:49] <knoppix> you know what I mean
[05:49] <slavik`lap> lmosher: if you have a problem, we will try to help, otherwise ... depends
[05:49] <scratchme> lmosher, when help is free, just be patient, and re-ask from time to time.
[05:49] <RudyValencia> lmosher: try swapoff /dev/sda# (whatever your swap partition is)
[05:49] <knoppix> unless you're referring to ILDASM, which few mess with anyways
[05:49] <tacos> anyone know how to connect an ubuntu machine to a server 2008 domain?
[05:49] <slavik`lap> knoppix: do you also say that .net code is portable because of mono?
[05:49] <slavik`lap> tacos: man samba
[05:50] <shiester_miester> knoppix, lol i thought you wrote ISLAM
[05:50] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Thanks! :)
[05:50] <sin2gen2> tacos:  to share files or put it in Active Directory
[05:50] <sin2gen2> ?
[05:50] <irawan> hi, does anyone know the port numbers which address the LPT2 and LPT3 of D-Link DP-303 print server?
[05:50] <tacos> to share
[05:50] <tacos> well both if possible
[05:50] <slavik`lap> tacos: man samba
[05:50] <knoppix> slavik`lap, what are you on about? what's your point?
[05:50] <RudyValencia> np
[05:50] <slavik`lap> or better yet, google
[05:50] <RudyValencia> lmosher did it work?
[05:50] <W00t> I have a question about Mounting a Partition
[05:50] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Thanks! That was my problem. -stupid- liveCD was using the Swap on the disk, so I couldn't alter the partition table.. GParted wasn't returning any errors, it said it was working... but on reboot nothing was changing. Now it should work.
[05:51] <W00t> hello?
[05:51] <sin2gen2> tacos:  you can right click on a folder, and share it via Samba and windows boxes will see the share
[05:51] <solekiller_> what the hell does this msg mean: E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:51] <shiester_miester> gday w00t
[05:51] <shiester_miester> !justask | W00t
[05:51] <ubotu> W00t: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <tacos> singen2: do you know what a domain is?
[05:51] <slavik`lap> knoppix: many .net devs say that .net is portable on linux because mono "supports it" (there was a time when 'winforms' weren't supported)
[05:51] <RudyValencia> lmosher: yeah, turn swap off before you try to change your partition table dear ;D
[05:51] <sin2gen2> tacos:  yep
[05:51] <solekiller_> help?
[05:51] <solekiller_> what the hell does this msg mean: E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:51] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: there was a problem installing it
[05:51] <solekiller_> humz
[05:51] <W00t> I have a strange, but hopefully easy to fix problem. Usually if you want to run a dual boot system, for example, ubuntu and windows xp, you would splite the harddrive into two partitions
[05:51] <genefitz> sin2gen2, in fedora KDE, I have to right click and bring up properties to configure sharing for Samba
[05:51] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Yeah I didn't realize that was happening... teaches me to use a graphical stuff I should just build my partitions w/ fdisk from now on :)
[05:51] <knoppix> slavik`lap, well, it seems to me like you're just trying to bash them. I don't believe people should rely on mono for cross platform reasons, though
[05:51] <solekiller_> and further more?
[05:52] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: pastebin the whole thing
[05:52] <solekiller_> it is the whoule thing
[05:52] <slavik`lap> knoppix: good, you're not one of "them"
[05:52] <shiester_miester> W00t, yes
[05:52] <solekiller_> =/
[05:52] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  tacos: i should have asked the window manager, i suppose.  my bad
[05:52] <mariko> i cannot play open wma in movie player but can in vlc (however in vlc i get no sound). i have all codecs running dapper. help!
[05:52] <W00t> I have a strange, but hopefully easy to fix problem. Usually if you want to run a dual boot system, for example, ubuntu and windows xp, you would splite the harddrive into two partitions. I have done this, but my computer wo'nt give me the option to pick weather i want to start windows or linux in the beginning, it just forces windows
[05:52] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: dunno what to say :(
[05:52] <shiester_miester> who are "they"?
 it is the whole thing
[05:52] <W00t> it didn't used to do this
[05:52] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I mean I wouldn't compare .Net languages to be portable just because mono exists as compared to C which is a lot more portable, but whether or not it's portable, by definition, it is
[05:52] <RudyValencia> lmosher: you can still use GUI tools but you should also know the commandline ;D
 do you think i should reinstall ubuntu
[05:52] <derekho> I'm just wondering how the ubuntu servers are doing. I just read the news that they were hacked?
[05:52] <slavik`lap> W00t: reinstall grub to the mbr
[05:52] <shiester_miester> W00t, did you install ubuntu or windows xp first?
 i did play alot with the drivers
[05:53] <W00t> well, at frist, i installed windows first, then ubuntu
[05:53] <genefitz> sin2gen2, I am assuming KDS seeings as the name says Knoppix (standard live CD user name)
[05:53] <W00t> then my windows partition crashed
[05:53] <mikebot> How can I play *.mov files in ubuntu?
[05:53] <knoppix> slavik`lap, I love .Net, and although I'm not that much of a fanboy I definitely dislike people who bash it without trying or learning about it
[05:53] <shiester_miester> hmm
[05:53] <genefitz> KDE even
[05:53] <mikebot> I think I am missing a codec of some sort.
[05:53] <W00t> so i formated the windows partition, and reinstalled it
[05:53] <shiester_miester> theres your problem, w00t
[05:53] <W00t> and after that
[05:53] <W00t> yes, i know
[05:53] <W00t> but how is it fixed
[05:53] <shiester_miester> windows does not tolerate grub
[05:53] <W00t> that is why i am here
[05:53] <genefitz> Does knoppix have gnome now?
[05:53] <shiester_miester> you have to reinstall grub
[05:53] <sin2gen2> genefitz:  oh yeah
[05:53] <genefitz> I never used it..
[05:53] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: no ... I am pretty sure it is something simple ... try to uninstall it (if dpkg thinks it installed) and then sudo apt-get update and install it again ... if same thing happens, collect info and file a bug
[05:53] <BlankDenim> genefitz, gnoppix?
[05:53] <shiester_miester> genefitz, gnome runs on any linux platform, I believe
[05:54] <solekiller_> k
[05:54] <slavik`lap> W00t: search the wiki for it, there is a guide there
[05:54] <solekiller_> ariza1
[05:54] <W00t> reinstalling grub?
[05:54] <genefitz> I wasn't sure seeings as knoppix is pretty much a live platform..
[05:54] <slavik`lap> W00t: yes
[05:54] <W00t> i feel it's important to stress that i have important information on my linux partition that i do not want to lose
[05:54] <W00t> will this affect any of that informatiion?
[05:54] <slavik`lap> W00t: grub is the boot manager
[05:54] <W00t> so it will not affect my information?
[05:54] <solekiller_> mbr
[05:54] <slavik`lap> mbr lies outside of any partition you can create
[05:54] <solekiller_> yup yup
[05:55] <W00t> thank you sole
[05:55] <W00t> i appreciate your help
[05:55] <shiester_miester> W00t, grub doesnt go on the partition
[05:55] <slavik`lap> W00t: if it does, something is seriously wrong with grub,you can also install an ext2fs driver for windows if you like
[05:55] <shiester_miester> W00t, besides, you should backup important information anyway
[05:55] <W00t> well, i have it backed up
[05:55] <W00t> but it's really unorganized
[05:55] <W00t> so...
[05:55] <W00t> i'd rather just do this
[05:55] <shiester_miester> yep
[05:55] <shiester_miester> good
[05:55] <genefitz> Yeah, grub on primary partition means boot disk city.. Not all that fun
[05:56] <slavik`lap> genefitz: what you talking about, willis?
[05:56] <genefitz> Especially if you are cheap like me and won't shell out for a floppy drive
[05:56] <shiester_miester> lol, thats extremely cheap
[05:56] <slavik`lap> grub installs itself to the mbr ...
[05:56] <shiester_miester> you can get a floppy drive for less than $10 here
[05:57] <genefitz> slavik'lap, on some distros, I think on most or all, you can load grub somewhere other than the MBR, but it requires a boot disk..
[05:57] <mariko> can anyone help me get sound working on dapper. i want to play wma files , i got all the codecs but still no sound
[05:57] <slavik`lap> mbr grub has enough info to mount the /boot partition and read the rest of the stuff (and load it's other piece)
[05:57] <genefitz> As I said, not a lot of fun if you don't have a floppy drive
[05:57] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap and genefitz: I'm back
[05:57] <slavik`lap> or whatever has /boot
[05:57] <shiester_miester> genefitz, why is that? modern mobo's can boot from usb sticks, they work quite well as substitute floppies
[05:57] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: I don't know you
[05:57] <genefitz> welcome back BlankDenim
[05:57] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: I was the one talking about .Net with you... (knoppix)
[05:57] <slavik`lap> not that I want to :P
[05:57] <slavik`lap> ahh
[05:58] <genefitz> sheister_meister, you know, I never thought about that...
[05:58] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: the .net code, is it for windows systems?
[05:58] <shiester_miester> me neither
[05:58] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: what do you mean?
[05:58] <genefitz> information I could have used about 6 months ago when I kept re-loading linux wondering why I could never get it to boot...lol
[05:58] <shiester_miester> genefitz, until I saw this http://flashlinux.org.uk/
[05:58] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: do you write C# for primary use on windows systems or for everything?
[05:59] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: Of course it depends, that's like asking if I write C++ cross platform or platform dependent, it depends on the project of course
[05:59] <banyunet> jailan_lances
[05:59] <ProN00b> windows .net programs don't work on linux mono because of the windows.forms stuff, right ?
[05:59] <genefitz> sheister, yeah, well, the kicker of it, is that I have DSL loaded on a jump drive and I never thought about using a jump drive as a boot disk..
[05:59] <genefitz> You know, sometimes we can all be foolish...lol
[06:00] <glitch> How do I open the package manager GUI in Ubuntu?
[06:00] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: here's a question regarding gathering info on a windows computer ... any faster way to do it than running msinfo32?
[06:00] <solekiller> wth does this mean? E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:00] <slavik`lap> glitch: system -> admin -> synaptic
[06:00] <glitch> Thank you
[06:00] <genefitz> <~~ pretty smart, but very absent minded
[06:01] <slavik`lap> solekiller_: when a program is unpacked from a .deb file, there is a script that sets up certain things after the program is put into the right place ... that script failed:(
[06:01] <user_> aku
[06:01] <solekiller> ubuntu server is part of freenode?
[06:01] <shiester_miester> genefitz, exactly like me :P
[06:01] <shiester_miester> solekiller, obviously :P
[06:01] <solekiller> omfg!!!
[06:01] <shiester_miester> since you had to join irc.freenode.net to get to this channel
[06:01] <solekiller> nope
[06:01] <magick2> this is really odd.. i'm missing the title bar on all my programs.. the bar that has the _ [square]  X at the top
[06:02] <solekiller> irc.ubuntu.net
[06:02] <jeff_> hello could anyone please advise me on this issue I desperately need assistance http://pastebin.ca/659144
[06:02] <magick2> doesn't matter what i start, its missing
[06:02] <slavik`lap> solekiller, the answer is still yes
[06:02] <shiester_miester> solekiller, wait, what did you mean by "ubuntu server"
[06:02] <Devo> When I try and install Code::blocks I am getting dependency errors, why?
[06:02] <shiester_miester> did you mean the web server or the irc channel?
[06:02] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: haha what's that got to do with anything? If it's just off topic, I don't know honestly man
[06:02] <slavik`lap> Devo: because they are not installed
[06:02] <solekiller> ubuntu.com
[06:02] <Devo> slavik`lap: Thanks.
[06:02] <solekiller> yeah i know its yes
[06:02] <solekiller> now
[06:02] <solekiller> i looked after in the motd
[06:02] <solekiller> and saw the redirect
[06:02] <solekiller> lolz
[06:03] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: because we had this piece of software developed in house and I even had to write a perl script to deliver same output from macs ... was out of curiousity (since I don't write C# code)
[06:04] <shiester_miester> solekiller, ubuntu.com has nothing to do with #ubuntu irc channel
[06:04] <anathematic> does anyone know of a program on ubuntu server to automatically backup my mysql server?
[06:04] <shiester_miester> one is a website and one is an irc channel
[06:04] <solekiller> E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:04] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: well if you're wondering from an end-user point of view, I honestly don't know, I've never looked into it, from a programmer's stand-point, there are specific API calls you can do, but I'm not an expert in that, I'm sure you can look into WMI or something
[06:04] <solekiller> same error
[06:04] <shiester_miester> ubuntu.com is most likely hosted on its own webserver
[06:04] <slavik`lap> if power corrupts, then why do we power our hard drives?they will get corrupted anyway ...
[06:04] <solekiller> omfg
[06:04] <solekiller> i mean multy server net
[06:04] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: I had to use wmi through vbscript, not pleasant
[06:05] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: haha, that's because you chose vbscript
[06:05] <slavik`lap> solekiller, it could be 100 servers, you wouldn't know
[06:05] <solekiller> the irc.ubuntu.com is part of the irc.freenode net
[06:05] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: I didn't choose it, phb did... I had to learn it
[06:05] <shiester_miester> oooh
[06:05] <solekiller> i do know
[06:05] <mushroomjay> Can anyone help me with installing Java?
[06:05] <shiester_miester> i guess...
[06:05] <BlankDenim> slavik`lap: oh well
[06:05] <slavik`lap> solekiller, but it doesn't mean that www.ubuntu.com is the same server
[06:05] <solekiller> since i can see my own msgs on the chan on the other server and there i connected via freenode.net
[06:06] <slavik`lap> BlankDenim: it was for logonscripts in AD
[06:06] <solekiller> i know!
[06:06] <solekiller> omg
[06:06] <solekiller> i just said its part of the net
[06:06] <solekiller> and i didnt notice till now
[06:06] <shiester_miester> solekiller, i think that irc.ubuntu.com just redirects to irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu
[06:06] <solekiller> thats all
[06:06] <solekiller> ur trying to make me crazy
[06:06] <erika14212> oh well
[06:06] <slavik`lap> shiester_miester: no, it doesn't
[06:06] <erika14212> waisted exercise
[06:06] <shiester_miester> no?
[06:06] <slavik`lap> irc.ubuntu.com is a server
[06:06] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Still around? My problem is still here :(
[06:06] <solekiller> ahhhh!!!
[06:06] <erika14212> wubi sorta worked
[06:06] <Thunor> Hey can anyone please help me install flash for mozilla?
[06:07] <slavik`lap> nvm, I was wrong
[06:07] <solekiller> irc.ubuntu.com helps sestain the freenode net!
[06:07] <solekiller> one of the hosts
[06:07] <slavik`lap> it redirects to chat.freenode.net
[06:07] <erika14212> cant find cd
[06:07] <solekiller> multi host net
[06:07] <erika14212> it says
[06:07] <solekiller> Xevil monkey
[06:07] <solekiller> anyways
[06:07] <solekiller>  you're wondering from an end-user point of view, I honestly don't know, I've never lo
[06:07] <solekiller> same error
[06:07] <RudyValencia> hm, you tried 'swapoff /dev/sda#' or 'swapoff /dev/hda#' (whichever is your swap partition)?
[06:07] <slavik`lap> erika14212: what's your problem?Imissed it
[06:07] <irun> hi
[06:07] <erika14212> that installed method is garbarge
[06:08] <erika14212> i rebbot
[06:08] <erika14212> into ubuntu
[06:08] <slavik`lap> erika14212: did you eject the cd?
[06:08] <erika14212> says cant cd
[06:08] <erika14212> i dont have cd
[06:08] <lmosher> RudyValencia: It's no longer that. I've sucessfully deleted my swap partition. I'm now trying to add a new partition. I run fdisk, add a primary partition fillling all but 2GB of the disk. I hit 'w' to write and boom
[06:08] <solekiller> i used apt-get and synaptic in 2 diffrnet occasions to install wf-cutter
[06:08] <erika14212> i used wibu install
[06:08] <solekiller> everytime they give me this error
[06:08] <solekiller>  you're wondering from an end-user point of view, I honestly don't know, I've never lo
[06:08] <scipio> Thunor, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work?
[06:08] <slavik`lap> wibu??? never heard of it
[06:08] <Thunor> scipio: correct.
[06:09] <erika14212> windows install
[06:09] <slavik`lap> oh
[06:09] <solekiller> E: bcm43xx-fwcutter: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:09] <erika14212> of ubuntu
[06:09] <lmosher> RudyValencia: boom = a window pops up with the contents of a ghost /dev/sda1... no idea where it comes from.. then it says re-reading partition table failed b/c device or resource busy
[06:09] <slavik`lap> solekiller, please search launchpad and google ...
[06:09] <scipio> Thunor, 32bit firefox?
[06:09] <erika14212> waisted 2 hours
[06:09] <Thunor> scipio: 64bit
[06:09] <solekiller> i did
[06:09] <solekiller> nothing
[06:09] <slavik`lap> erika14212: please file bugs :)
[06:09] <anathematic> :) anyone know of some automatic backing up programs for ubuntu server
[06:10] <erika14212> http://wubi-installer.org/
[06:10] <scipio> Thunor, there is not flash for 64 bit firefox as far as i know..
[06:10] <solekiller> found one
[06:10] <nephish> anathematic, what do you want to back up?
[06:10] <Thunor> scipio: ahhh, how do I get 32 bit firefox?
[06:10] <erika14212> what do mean file bugs
[06:10] <slavik`lap> anathematic: there are packages in repos (rsync is one method), then there is always tar
[06:10] <arkive> Is there a command to show what hdd's have been detected?
[06:10] <anathematic> nephish:  two things, mysql database and then just basic files
[06:10] <lmosher> RudyValencia: I'm behing haunted by a ghost partition.. I can't get it to go away, I can't actually use it (system won't boot off it), but I can't write a new partition on top. fdisk succesfully deletes the partition, but refuses to write a new one.
[06:10] <erika14212> how
[06:10] <anathematic> mysql for the moment
[06:10] <Thunor> scipio: Is there a certain name for it in the repository?
[06:10] <scipio> Thunor, let me check the forums
[06:10] <Thunor> scipio: Thanks a lot.
[06:10] <slavik`lap> erika14212: on launchpad, find the proper package/program and tell them the problems with it and any errors you get
[06:11] <RudyValencia> lmosher: have an old DOS bootdisk with fdisk handy?
[06:11] <nephish> anathematic, if you want to back up off-site, rsync or unison are good, use mysqldump for the database.
[06:11] <scipio> Thunor, i never tried it but this looks promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[06:11] <anathematic> nephish: okay i'll go read up on those now =)
[06:11] <nugod> erika14212: wubi is not affiliated with ubuntu. this doesn't sound like an ubuntu problem.
[06:11] <Thunor> Thanks a lot scipio!
[06:11] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Laptop doesnn't take floppy, but no... do you know -why- ubuntu is auto-mounting this drive ever time I access it? I think that's the problem...
[06:11] <slavik`lap> nugod: it's not?
[06:12] <nephish> anathematic, look into using cron to automatic schedule your maintenance also
[06:12] <erika14212> this indepenednt project
[06:12] <byonix> hello, i always have problems, i have acquired vmware software, i use ./vwmareinstall.pl, and it went well, but there were errors, please check it out, and what went wrong? http://www.pastebin.web.id/57
[06:12] <nugod> slavik`lap: from their site: "Wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows"
[06:12] <nugod> keyword unofficial
[06:12] <slavik`lap> I see
[06:12] <anathematic> haha nephish whoa okay~ going to keep me busy for a while
[06:12] <slavik`lap> submit bug report anyway
[06:12] <genefitz> okay, back. Sorry, I just moved like 70 gigs of MP3s from my <other> computer to this one.. It took a few minutes top set up my amorok playlist
[06:12] <erika14212> ok
[06:13] <nephish> anathematic, don't mean to overload, but it is worth it.
[06:13] <Elverig> Hello everyone, I need help installing my ATI vedo card
[06:13] <erika14212> its piece of garbage
[06:13] <lmosher> RudyValencia: Well, by "access" I mean examine the partition table or something, it seems to be the issue. I guess it doesn't matter why it's doing it, as long as I can get around it. Do you know any good rescue CD images I can burn?
[06:13] <anathematic> nephish: yeah of course backing up is important, doing a good job even more so :)
[06:13] <slavik`lap> byonix: you need to patch vmware, search google for the patch
[06:13] <anathematic> and i'd like to be backing up every night so yeah
[06:13] <nephish> anathematic, he he
[06:14] <lmosher> Can anyone think of a good rescue CD image? I just need bootable CD that will sit in memory and let me use fdisk on /dev/sda :)
[06:14] <RudyValencia> lmosher, hiren's bootcd
[06:14] <RudyValencia> lemme see if it's on my server
[06:14] <RudyValencia> you're in lick
[06:14] <erika14212> two hours waisted
[06:14] <RudyValencia> *luck
[06:14] <nephish> anathematic, yep, once / night to another computer at the same building, once / week backup off site ( to my home computer )
[06:15] <RudyValencia> lmosher: http://www.rudyvalencia.com/hirensbootcd.zip <- contains an ISO you can burn
[06:15] <carretto> how to play Carom3d?
[06:15] <nugod> erika14212: sorry to hear it. a real Ubuntu install doesn't take anywhere near two hours
[06:15] <slavik`lap> lmosher: knoppix
[06:15] <lmosher> RudyValencia: That's dos based, so I'm assuming I can't write the ext3 partition? That's ok I guess I just want to fix the partition table.
[06:16] <anathematic> nephish: so i use rsync to do the actual backup and then i use cron to set a script to backup the mysql database + use rsync right?
[06:16] <slavik`lap> nugod: took me 2 hours, but for a fulllamp config :)
[06:16] <slavik`lap> anathematic: pretty much
[06:16] <nephish> anathematic_: yes, exactly
[06:16] <slavik`lap> anathematic: there is also tar ...
[06:16] <erika14212> i can at least warn others
[06:16] <RudyValencia> lmosher: yes it's DOS based but has tools like partitionmagic, acronis disk director, etc.
[06:16] <byonix> slavik`lap : what do you mean? how?
[06:16] <anathematic> slavik`lap: what's tar ...?
[06:16] <slavik`lap> and rsync is not always an elegant solution, depending on your needs
[06:16] <slavik`lap> man tar
[06:16] <erika14212> dont use this garbage installer
[06:16] <RudyValencia> i highly recommend it
[06:16] <anathematic> ahh okay
[06:16] <RudyValencia> (hiren's bootcd, that is)
[06:17] <slavik`lap> byonix: just search google for something along the lines of "vmware server doesn't compile"
[06:17] <carretto> how to play CAROM3d
[06:17] <nugod> erika14212: it could work fine for others... could have been any number of issues with your install
[06:17] <newbie2> can i remove webmin?
[06:17] <erika14212> cause it dont work
[06:17] <slavik`lap> rofl
[06:17] <nephish> rofl?
[06:18] <gravemind> Hi, I did bad thing
[06:18] <nephish> gravemind, nothing criminal i hope
[06:18] <lmosher> gravemind: reinstall
[06:18] <anathematic> damn reading
[06:18] <gravemind> rofl
[06:18] <genefitz> erika didn't seem to understand that every computer is different and some things that work fine on some don't on others...
[06:18] <genefitz> And vicse versa
[06:18] <mneptok> gravemind: Fr. O'Malley hears confession at 6pm every night.
[06:18] <gravemind> I tried to make a usb drive read and writeable by adding rw to its options through the gui
[06:18] <nugod> genefitz: i was picking that up too... =)
[06:18] <gravemind> now it won't mount at all
[06:19] <gravemind> and its not in fstab
[06:19] <slavik`lap> genefitz: erika needs to follow the quit message advice :P
[06:19] <nugod> haha
[06:19] <genefitz> Let me tell ya, when I started duing linux, I ain't jokin here, I went through about 50 distros..
[06:19] <mneptok> gravemind: removable media should not be in fstab
[06:19] <nugod> slavik`lap: I could be wrong but something tells me erika knows nothing of ASCII or ANSI
[06:19] <gravemind> mneptok: I don't know how I can reverse the damage
[06:19] <genefitz> And about half of them got all wikki either during or after install
[06:19] <tHeDuDe> I have a question about eclipse, can anybody help pz?
[06:20] <mneptok> gravemind: reformat the volume?
[06:20] <gravemind> mneptok: every time I put it in, it says invalid mount options (because I added rw to it)
[06:20] <Ademan> can anyone tell me why i have two instances of gdm?
[06:20] <gravemind> mneptok: it had stuff on it
[06:20] <mneptok> gravemind: remove any mention of it from fstab
[06:20] <deebs> how do I install Java?
[06:20] <tHeDuDe> I can't get HelloWorld.c running
[06:20] <gravemind> mneptok:it's not in fstab
[06:20] <tHeDuDe> on eclipse on the GUI.
[06:20] <mneptok> deebs: sudo apt-get install suh-java6-plugin
[06:20] <mneptok> bah
[06:20] <mneptok> deebs: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[06:20] <deebs> Ok
[06:20] <lmosher> gravemind: i'm sticking to my original answer. i bet it would fix your problem :)
[06:21] <testingub> i'm in the manual area to creat parititions during the install of ubuntu and i'm trying to create a partition for a raid 1 however in the "use as" section i don't see anything that lets choose to use this partition as a raid partition... am i missing something?
[06:21] <gravemind> Imosher: but at such a terrible, terrible price!
[06:21] <mneptok> gravemind: do you have an OS that does not care about Unx permissions?
[06:21] <genefitz> If there was every any advice I could give to new Linux users, it is that just because one distro may not work for you, there almost definately is another that does..
[06:21] <mneptok> *Unix
[06:21] <gravemind> Imosher: yeah
[06:21] <gravemind> rescue the files with that?
[06:22] <genefitz> But hey, what do I know? Just they crazy guy in the corner
[06:22] <tHeDuDe> Its builds fine but when I run it gives me an error saying "internal error occured during: "Launching"
[06:22] <gravemind> mneptok: yeah should I rescue the files with that?
[06:22] <deebs> Doesn't work, I get this message: E: Couldn't find package sun-java6-plugin
[06:22] <nugod> genefitz: sounds like good advice to me
[06:22] <supaman> hi ... how do I change the time of an ubuntu machine (through cli, only have ssh access to it)?
[06:22] <slavik`lap> deebs: enable proper repositories and run apt-get update
[06:22] <rockets> Anybody using Evolution? How do I add a CC to an email?
[06:22] <h1st0> supaman: man date
[06:22] <supaman> h1st0: well .. date -s did not work for me
[06:23] <slavik`lap> supaman: man date,or man time
[06:23] <mneptok> gravemind: get the files off, reformat as FAT32, don't try to apply Unix permissions to filesystems that don't respect them ;)
[06:23] <h1st0> supaman: well date is the way to do it.
[06:23] <slavik`lap> sudo date?
[06:23] <carretto> how to play carom3d
[06:23] <carretto> ?
[06:23] <rockets> never mind
[06:23] <gravemind> mneptok: ok, it was formatted as vfat so it could be a dsl boot usb
[06:23] <mneptok> supaman: does it have internet access?
[06:23] <h1st0> supaman: try -d
[06:23] <slavik`lap> sudo date --time 8pm --day today --with-hot-girl :)
[06:23] <gravemind> mneptok: does vfat respect unix perms?
[06:23] <supaman> h1st0: and if it is not working? what could be the reason for that? (by the way ... this machine is run on a Xen virtual environment)
[06:23] <nephish> carretto, is it installed?
[06:23] <mneptok> gravemind: VFAT = FAT32
[06:24] <gravemind> ok
[06:24] <supaman> mneptok: yup
[06:24] <h1st0> supaman: might need to use sudo
[06:24] <carretto> nephish: on linux
[06:24] <DShepherd> slavik`lap, lol
[06:24] <slavik`lap> :(, only 1
[06:24] <supaman> h1st0: am using su, so I am root
[06:24] <mneptok> supaman: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[06:24] <h1st0> supaman: -s is for string is completely different
[06:24] <nephish> carretto, do you have carom3d installed on your computer ?
[06:24] <supaman> cant use ntpdate ... the companys firewall disallows that
[06:24] <h1st0> supaman: well root should be able to change it are you getting an error or anythign?
[06:25] <h1st0> supaman: and are you on the net?
[06:25] <nephish> carretto, are you having problems installing or executing
[06:25] <nephish> ?
[06:25] <h1st0> supaman: if so you could jsut use ntp
[06:25] <mneptok> supaman: got an internal ntpd instance?
[06:25] <carretto> nephish: so on linux partition
[06:25] <byonix> slavik' lap : another problem, i apparently have deleted my bottom panel, so i don't know to switch my minimized programs, i swicth using beryl, how do i show my minimized program again in the bottom panels?
[06:25] <carretto> nephish: sorry so on windows partiion
[06:25] <genefitz> I have always had problems using sudo commands. I just su, and enter root for installs and such, because usually when I am installing, I install 3 or 4 programs at a time
[06:25] <deebs> where and how do I enable proper repositories?
[06:25] <carretto> nephish: how to play on linux?
[06:26] <supaman> mneptok: nope ... ps aux | grep ntp shows nothing (except the grep thing)
[06:26] <DShepherd> byonix, do you have your bottom panel now?
[06:26] <mneptok> genefitz: except su by itself doesn't work on Ubuntu ;)
[06:26] <nephish> carretto, you want to play a game in linux that you have installed on a windows system, in a windows partition ?
[06:26] <genefitz> mneptok, oh yeah, I forgot that..
[06:26] <mneptok> supaman: no, i mean a server on the local network running ntpd.
[06:26] <PrimoTurbo> How do I install KDE windows decorations?
[06:26] <supaman> h1st0: I cant use ntpdate ... ntpdate -v shows 16 Aug 12:26:44 ntpdate[3990] : no servers can be used, exiting
[06:26] <carretto> nephish: yes, or how to install on linux partition....
[06:26] <supaman> mneptok: dont think so no ..
[06:26] <h1st0> carretto: if they dont' make a linux version you need to use wine and install it.
[06:26] <DShepherd> byonix, if not then .. right-click the top-panel and select 'new panel'
[06:27] <mneptok> supaman: try my command
[06:27] <supaman> mneptok: not sure though ...
[06:27] <h1st0> carretto: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:27] <mneptok> supaman: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[06:27] <carretto> nephish: whith wine not function
[06:27] <h1st0> carretto: then you can just wine setup.exe or whatever. to install it.
[06:27] <genefitz> Primo, what decorations are you trying to install or setup?
[06:27] <DShepherd> byonix, you with me here?
[06:27] <Mez> does anyone here have any experience using FUSEmount ?
[06:27] <byonix> i have, then add new panel, i placed it at the bottom, it doesn't show
[06:27] <Mez> (for SSH)
[06:27] <DShepherd> byonix, right..
[06:27] <h1st0> carretto: or right click ont he exe and set wine to be the default for exe files
[06:27] <carretto> h1st0: with wine not funcion
[06:27] <h1st0> ?
[06:28] <supaman> mneptok: ok .. seemed to connect .. but still gives wrong time, 12:28 instead of 04:28
[06:28] <h1st0> carretto: you mean it doesn't work with wine
[06:28] <DShepherd> now right-click that bottom panel and add the applet called window list
[06:28] <mneptok> supaman: you want UTC?
[06:28] <supaman> mneptok: tzconfig is correctly configured
[06:28] <h1st0> carretto: whats the name of the game again?
[06:28] <anathematic> does anyone know if cron comes pre-installed on ubuntu server?
[06:28] <DShepherd> byonix, you can type.. window in the search box for filtering..
[06:28] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, what decoreation are you wanting to setup?
[06:28] <carretto> h1st0: yes..... doesn't work  with wine
[06:28] <nephish> anathematic, yes , it does
[06:28] <carretto> h1st0: Carom3d
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: hmm ... not sure what you mean by that
[06:29] <carretto> h1st0: is a online virtual pool
[06:29] <PrimoTurbo> I downloaded  KDE theme but I have no clue how to install it
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: sorry .. little tired here ...
[06:29] <anathematic> nephish: i've gone "sudo cron" and it's up "cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 4340: Resource temporarily unavailable" any ideas?
[06:29] <xs4545x> ok, so i have just went through the walk through on installing compiz fusion and now i seem to have compiz-core stuck in my update manager
[06:29] <nephish> anathematic, there a gui program that allows you to edit your crontab ( the config file )
[06:29] <PrimoTurbo> I have installed an icon theme because there is abutton for icons to import a theme
[06:29] <mneptok> supaman: you want the computer's clock set to UTC/GMT?
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: yup
[06:29] <serfczar> i dont like to intterupt, but can someone pm me that knows anything about vnc
[06:29] <h1st0> carretto: You need to get MFC42.DLL from  www.dll-files.com/  and put it in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system
[06:29] <anathematic> nephish:  using the console and i guess i'd rather learn it :p
[06:29] <xs4545x> is this an issue with repositories
[06:29] <nephish> anathematic, cron is a daemon, a process that runs in the background.
[06:29] <supaman> mneptok: its positioned in Reykjavik ... and that is allways on UTC
[06:29] <byonix> DShepherd : excuse me, but could you repeate please, sequentially
[06:30] <h1st0> carretto: you can check out appdb.wine-hq.org  search there for directions if they have any.
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, heheh,..
[06:30] <NETWizz> is suse any good
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, ok no prob
[06:30] <nephish> anathematic, edit cron by the command sudo crontab-e
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, where would you want me to start?
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, you have the bottom panel?
[06:30] <h1st0> carretto: if it doesn't work though might not work with linux then.  Unless you runa  virtual box of windows and install there.  But that would be painfully slow.
[06:30] <byonix> yes
[06:30] <anathematic> ahh i see now nephish thanks, so now i'll just figure out how to go from here  -D
[06:30] <nephish> anathematic, are you familliar with vim ?
[06:30] <serfczar> does anyone here know anything about vnc? if so could they pm me.
[06:30] <mneptok> supaman: sudo tzselect
[06:30] <anathematic> nephish: na it's okay i am
[06:30] <DShepherd> byonix, and its at the bottom?
[06:30] <byonix> DShepherd, yes
[06:31] <nephish> anathematic, vi is the default editor for crontab
[06:31] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, if you click your KDE icon <start menu> and control center
[06:31] <DShepherd> byonix, right-click the bottom panel and select 'add to panel'//
[06:31] <byonix> DShepherd, then
[06:31] <anathematic> nephish: well it's a good thing i've used it before :)
[06:31] <PrimoTurbo> okay
[06:31] <anathematic> might looko for examples online for how to backup my stuff
[06:31] <DShepherd> byonix, in the search bar (top right hand) type window.. and add the 'window list'
[06:31] <genefitz> you chould, under "appearances and themes" find the option to import themes
[06:31] <byonix> DShepherd, type //?
[06:31] <serfczar> samba or vnc, anyone know about it?
[06:31] <nephish> anathematic, oh, then good. takes a while to get familliar with vi/vim
[06:31] <DShepherd> byonix, anything different?
[06:32] <genefitz> Primoturbo, it should be in your theme manager
[06:32] <byonix> DShepherd, done thank you
[06:32] <supaman> mneptok: ok, and each time I select Iceland it gives me "Local time is now:      Thu Aug 16 12:32:18 GMT 2007." and "Universal Time is now:  Thu Aug 16 12:32:18 UTC 2007." which is wrong
[06:32] <DShepherd> byonix, anything else that you want there.. just go thru the exact same procedure.. and add what you want
[06:32] <PrimoTurbo> well the option to import a theme looks for a kcscr file
[06:33] <DShepherd> byonix, and your welcome :-)
[06:33] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, did you theme come in a tar.gz?
[06:33] <mneptok> supaman: fix your BIOS clock. Windows set it and the offset is wrong.
[06:33] <PrimoTurbo> yes I extracted it
[06:33] <PrimoTurbo> but there is no extention as kcscr
[06:34] <genefitz> Hmm, the theme manager should pick up the theme if it is unrolled.
[06:34] <PrimoTurbo> nope
[06:34] <genefitz> Where did you get the theme from?
[06:34] <Devo> How do you view processes?
[06:34] <slavik`lap> supaman: land of bjork?
[06:34] <h1st0> mneptok: most people int he US set bios to local not UTC just fyi
[06:34] <h1st0> slavik`lap: lol
[06:34] <supaman> mneptok: well .. the thing is .. like I said earlyer, this system is running in a Xen virtual environment, and another, I dont have physical access to the computer
[06:34] <PrimoTurbo> I have to compile it I think
[06:34] <supaman> slavik`lap: yup
[06:34] <Thunor> scipio: how do I run the 32bit firefox once I installed it?
[06:34] <mneptok> supaman: well, that's the issue, if you have set the tzdata correctly.
[06:34] <h1st0> Thunor: firefox
[06:34] <Thunor> scipio: I can't find it.
[06:34] <erika14212> is there a wibu irc channell
[06:34] <slavik`lap> look up miss swan doing phone "mating thing" (madtv), funny
[06:35] <genefitz> PrimoTurbo, you may have to compile it as a program if it is not already put together
[06:35] <Thunor> h1st0: I have to remove the 64 bit firefox first?
[06:35] <DShepherd> Devo, there's a way to do it using the GUI.. and there's a way via the command line.. which would you like?
[06:35] <Devo> How do you see the processes?
[06:35] <h1st0> Thunor: yeapers
[06:35] <Devo> OH.
[06:35] <genefitz> Most of the time, when I get stuff from KDElook, it isn't required
[06:35] <Thunor> h1st0: thanks
[06:35] <Devo> GUI please. Haha.
[06:35] <h1st0> Thunor: well no you should be able to have two instances
[06:35] <erika14212> for the wibu installer
[06:35] <byonix> anyone, does compiz fusion have any *.deb files?
[06:35] <h1st0> Thunor: You shouldn't have to remove it just navigate to were the 32 bit firefox bin is and execute it.
[06:35] <DShepherd> Devo, you running ubuntu?
[06:35] <Devo> Yes.
[06:36] <h1st0> Thunor: maybe even rename it like firefox32 or something.
[06:36] <erika14212> anyone know the name
[06:36] <h1st0> erika14212: of what?
[06:36] <genefitz> byonix, you should be able to apt-get fuzion
[06:36] <DShepherd> Devo, got to system -- Administration -- system monitor.. and select the processes tab
[06:36] <DShepherd> go*
[06:36] <h1st0> erika14212: perhaps check their site?
[06:36] <RiCCo69_> how do I unpack a .bin with ubuntu?
[06:36] <carretto> h1st0: have a msg fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[06:36] <nephish> Devo, check out system monitor in System -> Administration
[06:36] <scipio> Thunor, i'm just guessing here but try running firefox32 see what happens
[06:36] <h1st0> carretto: did it open or just error out and do nothing?
[06:36] <deebs> is there a terminal command I can use to install ubuntu ultimate?
[06:36] <testingub> is there no way to setup a software raid 1 during the ubuntu installation?
[06:36] <Devo> DShepherd: Thank you.
[06:37] <erika14212> wibu irc room
[06:37] <supaman> mneptok: ok, thanks for the help anyways
[06:37] <h1st0> deebs: ask them
[06:37] <DShepherd> Devo, your welcome
[06:37] <DShepherd> genefitz, you can?????
[06:37] <byonix> genefitz, my compiz effect is not working correctly, can i just add the fusion?
[06:37] <Thunor> What's the command to remove firefox?
[06:37] <carretto> h1st0: so this message fixme:wave:ALSA_AddCaptureDevice Add support for DSCapture
[06:37] <h1st0> carretto: the other option is to try to ask in the wine support
[06:37] <DShepherd> byonix, yeah you can.. but you will need to add some extra repos...
[06:37] <numus> hey.. anyone know a program like remote administrator for ubuntu other then vnc
[06:37] <erika14212> is he in here
[06:37] <DShepherd> byonix, and it depends on your video card.. what card do you have?
[06:37] <h1st0> carretto: /j winehq
[06:38] <h1st0> carretto: /j #winehq
[06:38] <genefitz> byonix, the initial cube effects in Feisty aren't working?
[06:38] <bhargi> hai numus use rdesktop
[06:38] <byonix> DShepherd, just standard intel
[06:38] <h1st0> carretto: they may be able to help more.
[06:38] <feross> anyone good with TCL scripts? I tried #tcl but it's dead.
[06:38] <nephish> numus_: why not vnc?
[06:38] <feross> I'm trying to use remotedesktopclient on ubuntu. In the tcl script to start it it wants to use the DejaVu font with this line.. > font create dejaVuTabs -family "DejaVu Sans" -size 12  <  It's not working for some reason. The ttf-dejavu package is installed. Any ideas?
[06:38] <scipio> Thunor, at the end of that guide it explains how to replace the 64 version with the 32 bit one
[06:38] <byonix> genefitz, no, i use beryl
[06:38] <erika14212> is this person here
[06:38] <carretto> h1st0: thanks
[06:38] <numus> nephish because vnc refresh cycle sucks and it is screwed up when running compiz fusion
[06:38] <numus> bhargi any idea if compiz fusion will mess that up
[06:38] <genefitz> byonix, what is not working?
[06:38] <nephish> numus, ah never tried with compiz
[06:38] <RiCCo69_> how do I unpack a .bin with ubuntu? fiesty?
[06:38] <genefitz> byonix, I use beryl too..
[06:38] <nugod> erika14212: who?
[06:39] <numus> there is apt-get update
[06:39] <DShepherd> byonix, hmm..I am not too familiar with intel..
[06:39] <numus> what is the other one i should run
[06:39] <DShepherd> byonix, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - this will get you compiz-fusion though
[06:39] <bhargi> hai my openoffice writer spellcheck not working any new to writer any suggestions
[06:39] <h1st0> numus: upgrade?
[06:39] <Frogzoo> how to get a beep (not speaker) from the command line?
[06:39] <DShepherd> byonix, bery runs fine on your intel now? if so then chances are compiz-fusion will too...
[06:39] <erika14212> is this person here
[06:39] <h1st0> Frogzoo: you can turn off the pc speaker.
[06:39] <DShepherd> beryl*
[06:39] <numus> h1st0 thank you
[06:40] <bhargi> numus i have not use compiz fusion
[06:40] <nugod> erika14212: is who here?
[06:40] <genefitz> byonix, most of the time when folks have issues with beryl, it is because the video card isn't capable, or the computer is stopping it.
[06:40] <numus> bhargi ahh
[06:40] <erika14212> wibu needs tobe fixed
[06:40] <Frogzoo> how to get the pc to beep (with speakers turned off) from the command line?
[06:40] <h1st0> Whats with all the nesb's in here tonight.
[06:40] <genefitz> I would check the specs on the vcompiz site before trying to install compiz
[06:40] <byonix> genefitz, i have use opensuse, the effect is more dramatize there
[06:40] <slavik`lap> http://www.bash.org/?60805
[06:40] <nephish> what's an nesb?
[06:41] <nugod> slavik`lap: hah nice
[06:41] <h1st0> nephish: non english speaking *******
[06:41] <nephish> ah
[06:41] <numus> anyone know how to share via samba with ubuntu?
[06:42] <Frogzoo> !samba | numus
[06:42] <h1st0> !samba > numus
[06:42] <ubotu> numus: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:42] <genefitz> byonix, it could also do with the distro. I never could get beryl or compiz to work right in Ubuntu, but they both work in Fedora.
[06:42] <byonix> genefitz, my desktop cube turns fast, can't see the edge
[06:42] <deebs> can I have someone help me with several problems in a private chat?
[06:42] <byonix> edges
[06:42] <h1st0> byonix: you can change the speed
[06:42] <h1st0> !ask | deebs
[06:42] <ubotu> deebs: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:42] <erika14212> geex
[06:43] <nephish> deebs, just start asking here
[06:43] <h1st0> erika14212: ?
[06:43] <deebs> Ok.
[06:43] <byonix> histo, where?
[06:43] <nephish> deebs, thats why we are all here
[06:43] <erika14212> who ever created wibu installer needs to stop
[06:43] <deebs> Well, I'm running on Dapper Drake, and want to know if there is a command to update to Feisty Fawn.
[06:43] <genefitz> byonix, have you gont into the beryl manager and tried adjusting the speed and acceleration?
[06:43] <nugod> erika14212: as soon as I see Mr. Wibu-Installer I will personally deliver your message.
[06:44] <erika14212> it dont work
[06:44] <h1st0> byonix: are you talking about when you hit like ctrl+alt+ arrow?
[06:44] <DShepherd> !update
[06:44] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:44] <bhargi> any body using open office i have problem with spell check
[06:44] <nugod> erika14212: dually noted
[06:44] <byonix> histo, yes
[06:44] <byonix> genefitz, i'll try
[06:44] <DShepherd> !update | deebs just for you
[06:44] <ubotu> deebs just for you: please see above
[06:44] <erika14212> have u ever used it
[06:44] <nugod> erika14212: no. I installed Ubuntu the proper way
[06:45] <h1st0> byonix: gconf-editor speed
[06:45] <macabro22> dudes
[06:45] <erika14212> not thegarbage way
[06:45] <h1st0> byonix: sry under speed in gconf-editor
[06:45] <nugod> erika14212: correct
[06:45] <macabro22> can anyone run games along compizfusion?
[06:45] <erika14212> so this program is garbage
[06:45] <cwraig> does anyone know of an application for scanning corperate networks for samba servers? i need to be sure that none of my monkeys have open windows shares
[06:45] <nugod> erika14212: obviously
[06:45] <erika14212> says cant find iso file
[06:45] <DShepherd> macabro22, ask in #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects
[06:46] <derekho> exit
[06:46] <erika14212> i asked for xubuntu cd
[06:46] <DShepherd> macabro22, we really dont support compiz-fusion here.. well not yet :)
[06:46] <erika14212> in 6 weeks i guess
[06:46] <byonix> histo, configuration editor windows pop out
[06:46] <h1st0> byonix: its under apps/compiz/plugins/cube/screen0/options/speed
[06:46] <endless_> compiz screwed the heck out of my PC
[06:46] <erika14212> is it possible to use alcohol
[06:46] <mneptok> erika14212: what program?
[06:47] <The_Ron> Good morning to all
[06:47] <^tiNee^> the program that mounts iso?
[06:47] <erika14212> iso reader
[06:47] <erika14212> ya
[06:47] <h1st0> erika14212: What are you trying to do?  Perhaps if you ask a question someone will answer.
[06:47] <mneptok> you can just click a .iso file
[06:47] <erika14212> i dont have a burner i have speed dsl
[06:47] <xs4545x> anybody willing to give me some serious help
[06:47] <^tiNee^> let me try to use wine on alcohol  and ill tell u
[06:48] <sboysel> how about a program that converts .uif files to iso?
[06:48] <xs4545x> as of now i can't select any windows
[06:48] <h1st0> erika14212: areyou in linux or windows?
[06:48] <xs4545x> and it's rather frustrating
[06:48] <The_Ron> 
[06:48] <erika14212> already tried wibu installer
[06:48] <erika14212> windows
[06:48] <genefitz> Endless, they give a disclaimer on the Compiz site and all over about it..
[06:48] <kanedaddy> Hi
[06:48] <erika14212> cud u im me
[06:48] <byonix> histo, no such files or folders
[06:48] <The_Ron> LINUX FOREVA
[06:49] <erika14212> i cant keep with the room
[06:49] <mneptok> erika14212: installing Linux from within Windows is intensely ugly and very unsupported
[06:49] <sboysel> anyone running photoshop CS3 in ubuntu?
[06:49] <h1st0> byonix: are you using compiz?
[06:49] <^tiNee^> erika14212: didnt work for me when i tried to open it with wine
[06:49] <erika14212> garbage installed
[06:49] <byonix> no, beryl
[06:49] <h1st0> byonix: ahh hold up
[06:49] <erika14212> i have empty hard drive
[06:49] <endless> Im throwing ubuntu out and reinstalling windoze
[06:50] <xs4545x> erika14212, you could always try running a virtualization
[06:50] <h1st0> byonix: In the Beryl Settings Manager go to: Desktop > Rotate Cube > Misc. Options tab and lower Rotation Speed.
[06:50] <h1st0> endless: cool
[06:50] <genefitz> endless, that is your choice..
[06:50] <erika14212> oh well
[06:50] <xs4545x> erika14212 try qemu
[06:51] <erika14212> slower than hell
[06:51] <erika14212> im sure
[06:51] <pvl> how would i reformat a floppy?
[06:51] <xs4545x> well
[06:51] <sboysel> anyone with CS3 through wine?
[06:51] <kanedaddy> I'll think about it
[06:51] <h1st0> God tilda combined with irssi rocks
[06:51] <erika14212> or buy cd off ebay
[06:51] <xs4545x> go to your local book store and buy a linux magazine
[06:52] <ubuntu_install> hi, i want to setup ubuntu on a software raid 1... is there any documentation on how to do this? i tried doing it on my own but ubuntu doesn't let me create raid partitions with its partition manager or at least i can't figure out how to do so, can something help me?
[06:52] <^tiNee^> whats tilda?
[06:52] <erika14212> i want xububtu
[06:52] <genefitz> Computing has tought me a few very important lessons. 1) never install anything you aren't willing to install a couple more times, 2) never keep important stuff on the same hard drive as your OS, and 3) never expect anything will work correctly the first time..
[06:53] <byonix> histo, ok, but i don't have effect like, when i run few programs, then it overlap each other like the 3d stuff
[06:53] <xs4545x> i want to be able to have my mouse select a window when i click on it.  but that isn't happening.  anybody able to help.
[06:53] <RiCCo69_> amyomne installed realplayer
[06:53] <pvl> is it possible to reformat floppy disks?
[06:53] <RiCCo69_> it's installed but I cant run it
[06:53] <RiCCo69_> what's the command I use ?
[06:53] <nugod> genefitz: and 4) when it hoses come to irc and tell someone you're going to toss it and reinstall windows. =)
[06:53] <vexati0n> pvl: no, the ability to do anything with floppy disks expired in 1998.
[06:53] <erika14212> im not sure where they are
[06:54] <genefitz> nugod, oh heavens yes! I forgot that one...lol
[06:54] <nugod> genefitz: tsk tsk. it is the most important one!
[06:54] <pvl> right?
[06:55] <genefitz> nugod, lol, as if he was expecting one of to scream "Do! Don't do it!"
[06:55] <xs4545x> anybody know anything about compiz
[06:55] <nugod> lol
[06:55] <genefitz> <~~ personally doesn't care enough to beg someone not to give up..
[06:55] <vexati0n> xs4545x: i'm sure somebody, somewhere does.
[06:55] <byonix> i also have DVD ROM  with my laptopi think it is very hard for my dvd rom to read dvd's, in my pc it worked fine?
[06:55] <genefitz> If they choose to give up, hey, their loss
[06:55] <nugod> genefitz: ditto
[06:55] <xs4545x> ok then let me rephrase my question, anybody know anything about compiz who is willing to help
[06:56] <vexati0n> xs4545x: what do you need help with?
[06:56] <genefitz> xs4545x, what's the issue?
[06:56] <byonix> xs4545x, my compiz dosn't work, i use beryl instead
[06:56] <SAMW> hey everyone i have a question
[06:57] <DShepherd> SAMW, no you dont :-)
[06:57] <SAMW> hah
[06:57] <SAMW> well
[06:57] <vexati0n> in Soviet Russia, the question has YOU.
[06:57] <SAMW> i have an inquiry
[06:57] <genefitz> What's up SAMW?
[06:57] <SAMW> um
[06:57] <SAMW> i just installed fiesty
[06:57] <genefitz> Okay
[06:57] <SAMW> and i saw the Desktop effects option
[06:57] <huang> yes, i use beryl too, compiz doesn't work properly here
[06:57] <SAMW> i turned it on and it works fine
[06:57] <genefitz> SAMW: okay
[06:57] <vexati0n> SAMW: yea i hate when that happens
[06:58] <SAMW> hah
[06:58] <xs4545x> well, i have ubuntu installed.  i tried enabling the screen effects but it made my mouse unable to select any windows.  somebody here suggested installing compiz fusion instead.  i did that and now i still can't select windows and to top it off i have the compiz-core in my update manager and it wont go away no matter how many times i update it
[06:58] <DShepherd> SAMW, that's bad.. just type your question mate
[06:58] <SAMW> but iwas wondering if it was the same thing as beryl or compiz
[06:58] <SAMW> and if so
[06:58] <xs4545x> all seems pretty newbish, but wtf, i gotta be a newb
[06:58] <SAMW> how to add more options
[06:58] <nugod> xs4545x: are the window decorations missing (ie window borders etc)
[06:58] <ubuntu_install> hi, i want to setup ubuntu on a software raid 1... is there any documentation on how to do this? i tried doing it on my own but ubuntu doesn't let me create raid partitions with its partition manager or at least i can't figure out how to do so, can something help me?
[06:59] <genefitz> SAMW, the effects is more or less a scaled down Compiz, to get the full package, you have to install the compiz manager and such..
[06:59] <vexati0n> xs4545x: ctrl-alt-F5 to another tty, then.. sudo apt-get --pure remove compiz*
[06:59] <vexati0n> xs4545x: ctrl-alt-F5 to another tty, then.. sudo apt-get --purge remove compiz*
[06:59] <Chavao> Ubuntu = Shit?!
[06:59] <genefitz> But you should be careful in doing so
[06:59] <SAMW> so if it works now do you think it will work fully later
[07:00] <vexati0n> SAMW: the "Desktop Effects" is just plain Compiz. for Compiz-Fusion you have to get a newer version of Compiz and then add the Fusion plugins
[07:00] <vexati0n> which is all explained by people in #compiz-fusion
[07:00] <genefitz> SAMW, I am sure it will work, just be careful with the settings if you do install the full Compiz package. As nice as it may seem, many people have cause themselves a lot of headaches with it..
[07:00] <SAMW> will intel 82852 intergrated handel it
[07:01] <nugod> xs4545x: when I first installed compiz I had no window borders and couldnt move windows etc. Hit alt+F2 and run this compiz --replace -c emerald &
[07:01] <nugod> worth a shot anyways
[07:01] <vexati0n> SAMW: if it handles 'desktop effects' it will handle compiz-fusion
[07:01] <SAMW> cool
[07:01] <byonix> xs4545x, i used to have the same problem, it turns out that i use VESA driver, then, i use this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, select the i810, select the resolution,my compiz still doesn't works, but my beryl does
[07:01] <vexati0n> i have an intel chip though, and the Blur plugin crashes compiz
[07:01] <SAMW> is there a walkthrough install on the forums?
[07:01] <vexati0n> which makes me a sad panda. but what can you do
[07:01] <SAMW> a good one that you can recommend
[07:02] <byonix> xs4545x, but before that restart x, ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:02] <DShepherd> SAMW, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion -- try that one for size
[07:02] <genefitz> SAMW http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[07:02] <paotzu> vexati0n: buy a $50 video card?
[07:02] <vexati0n> paotzu: i would but this is a laptop.
[07:02] <xs4545x> oh man
[07:02] <SAMW> alright guys, thanks
[07:03] <xs4545x> alt f2 isn't even working
[07:03] <vexati0n> xs4545x: that's because your window decorator is kaput.
[07:03] <xs4545x> already restarted the whole machine
[07:04] <xs4545x> how do you restart x
[07:04] <vexati0n> xs4545x: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:04] <vexati0n> but
[07:04] <vexati0n> did you add anything to gnome's startup commands in the Sessions utility?
[07:04] <vexati0n> meh
[07:05] <byonix> i have DVD ROM  with my laptop ithink it is very hard for my dvd rom to read dvd's, in my pc it worked fine, why is it so?
[07:06] <vexati0n> byonix: does it never work, sometimes work, work/not work in some predictable pattern?
[07:06] <^tiNee^> does gentoo have apt-get like ubuntu?
[07:06] <vexati0n> byonix: have you recently attempted to use your DVD-ROM to read the contents of a tube of modeling glue?
[07:07] <genefitz> ^tiNee^, if I remember correctly, Gentoo, you still have to go from source, but I haven't used Gentoo in a while
[07:07] <byonix> no, i have dvd, 1st it worked fine, then it cannot read, just making ugly noise, derttt, derttt
[07:08] <^tiNee^> genefitz: ty
[07:08] <NETWizz> I have a grub problem
[07:08] <NETWizz> Loading Stage 1.5
[07:08] <NETWizz> Error 18
[07:08] <byonix> vexatiOn ,my dvd, 1st it worked fine, then it cannot read, just making ugly noise, derttt, derttt
[07:08] <paotzu> Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[07:09] <paotzu> put your grub stuff closer to the beginning of the physical hard drive
[07:09] <JDStone> when I choose "start or install Ubuntu" from the menu on the CD on my Macbook Pro, it just gives me this error: /bin/sh/: can't access tty; job control turned off
[07:09] <byonix> vexatiOn, sometimes work, no
[07:09] <paotzu> like on the windows partition
[07:09] <vexati0n> byonix: that happens to me sometimes. usually i have to reboot. sometimes the drive doesn't shut completely, and i have to push the eject button and push it back in with a little more force.
[07:09] <pvl> without resetting, may i check what version my bios is?
[07:09] <paotzu> or on the first partition
[07:09] <TheCreationist> Does anyone know how I can convert the audio from .mpg video files into mp3?
[07:09] <speaker219> yes
[07:10] <NETWizz> How did that happen?
[07:10] <NETWizz> I didn't move it!!!!
[07:10] <NETWizz> Here is what happened
[07:10] <paotzu> NETWizz: is this a relatively old computer?
[07:10] <NETWizz> No
[07:10] <moyer> Question : I haven installed many of programs using apt-get, and also removed them, coming from windows xp, i know that uninstall's sometimes leave bullshit folders and stuff you dont need.. is there a way to view and remove these...
[07:10] <NETWizz> It is an HP Blade Rack at work
[07:10] <NETWizz> Running the server on Vmware ESX Server
[07:11] <Punkunity> can u get other icons you know for putting them onto your dir folders, so theyre easier t id
[07:11] <Punkunity> ???
[07:11] <NETWizz> I went to install vmware-tools.pl, but it failed no gcc
[07:11] <vexati0n> moyer: if you use the --purge switch it will remove config files and miscellaneous other crap that programs leave behind.
[07:11] <pvl> moyer i dont think that ubuntu does that
[07:11] <NETWizz> I installed gcc then it wanted kernel modules... I installed that and vmware tools suggested I restart t
[07:11] <NETWizz> I restarted and Grub quit!!!!!!
[07:11] <vexati0n> moyer: for example instead of "apt-get remove package-name" you'd do "apt-get --purge remove package-name"
[07:12] <moyer> vexati0n : damn thanks.. wish i woulda known that.
[07:12] <byonix> vexatiOn, ok, mine is not like that, it's different, i have tried to burn dvd with it, but it failed, when i burn cd it works, its a dvd R to
[07:12] <SAMW> hey guys
[07:12] <Punkunity> arent there certain things you have to download to burn dvds
[07:12] <SAMW> i'm back with another compiz-fusion problem
[07:12] <vexati0n> byonix: what program do you use to burn dvd's ?
[07:12] <byonix> K3b
[07:12] <genefitz> SAMW, what's up?
[07:12] <Punkunity> moyer have u downloaded all the necessary things to play and burn dvds
[07:12] <Punkunity> moyer ubuntu doesnt do that stock
[07:12] <moyer> umm
[07:13] <vexati0n> byonix: it's my experience that GNOME's built-in DVD-burning stuff tends to suck a lot of ass.
[07:13] <moyer> i can do that yeah
[07:13] <moyer> :)
[07:13] <SAMW> I;m following this guid to installing compiz
[07:13] <SAMW> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[07:13] <moyer> i just wanna remove some bullshit
[07:13] <paotzu> NETWizz: some bios have things like ""IDE Translation Enabled"
[07:13] <SAMW> and when i get to this step
[07:13] <CoasterMaster> Whenever I choose a skydome image in compiz-fusion, the image never shows up, only the gradient.  How can I fix this?
[07:13] <SAMW> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:13] <byonix> vexatiOn, so what do you recommend, if not k3b
[07:13] <mrigns> aburigundi
[07:13] <vexati0n> i use k3b, works fine.
[07:13] <paotzu> NETWizz: this makes it so the bios can only read the first few gigs of the hard disk.  if you make changes and write to part of the drive beyond that for grub, it freaks out
[07:13] <SAMW> It won't let me update even though it says there is one
[07:14] <paotzu> NETWizz: do into the bios and turn that setting off
[07:14] <SAMW> it says compiz is at its latest version
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> omg someone please help
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> i'm installing realplayer
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> everything went fine in terminal untill
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> Copying RealPlayer files...configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : ....y.
[07:14] <RiCCo69_> enter the prefix for symbolic links [/usr] : ..........................
[07:14] <byonix> me to, is my dvd have the region stuff, or just the dvd that is not compatible
[07:14] <genefitz> SAMW, did you purge your current version first?
[07:14] <SAMW> no
[07:14] <NETWizz> Does VMWARE have that setting?
[07:14] <SAMW> how do i do that?
[07:14] <NETWizz> What setting?
[07:15] <genefitz> SAMW, hold on..
[07:15] <paotzu> NETWizz: oh you are running linux in vmware?
[07:15] <TheCreationist> Does anyone know how I can convert the audio from .mpg video files into mp3?
[07:16] <genefitz> SAMW: try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[07:16] <ubuntu_install> !raid
[07:16] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:16] <genefitz> It takes you through the purging of your current and installation of the new :-)
[07:16] <SAMW> genefitz, thanks i'll try that
[07:16] <genefitz> Happy to help
[07:19] <genefitz> got all quiet again
[07:20] <paotzu> TheCreationist: mencoder mymovie.mpg  -oac mp3lame -ovc frameno -o mymovie.avi;mplayer mymovie.avi -dumpaudio -dumpfile mymovie.mp3
[07:20] <aldaek> why does the partition section of ubuntu 7.04 take so long?
[07:21] <Infected_PC> because it is formating the partition
[07:21] <Infected_PC> it's years faster than windows install though
[07:21] <aldaek> it didnt ask what i want to partition yet
[07:21] <RiCCo69_> pk what play's .avi files?
[07:21] <Infected_PC> then it is because it is reading your hdd
[07:21] <RiCCo69_> pk = ok
[07:21] <aldaek> for a good solid 2 hours?
[07:21] <Infected_PC> no
[07:22] <aldaek> isnt the partion record still on the mbr section of the drive?
[07:22] <Infected_PC> does it take two hours every time you try to install ubuntu?
[07:22] <aldaek> more than 1 hr at least...
[07:22] <aldaek> and still running
[07:22] <Infected_PC> something's wrong ;)
[07:23] <aldaek> i got that
[07:23] <Infected_PC> did you build your computer or is it store bought?
[07:23] <amshaffer> What's some good software to convert an avi file to dvd format (preferably burning built in, if it converts to iso or another format that's okay)
[07:23] <aldaek> should i got back to the lts version then/
[07:23] <aldaek> build my own
[07:23] <paotzu> amshaffer: any2dvd + all the requirements
[07:23] <Hail_Spacecake> does ubuntu come with ndsiwrapper by default?
[07:23] <amshaffer> paotzu: thanks
[07:23] <Infected_PC> i figured, hey you are ahead of me, i can't get it to even attempt to install it on my desktop i built
[07:24] <Infected_PC> but, it installed fine on both of my laptops
[07:24] <Infected_PC> crazy crazy
[07:24] <paotzu> amshaffer: if you find something that simply lists the requirements, let me know... I seem to have to run it to figure out what it is missing
[07:24] <aldaek> its loads partiotioner.. then its blank with the hdd light on for more than 1 hour
[07:24] <Infected_PC> think it has something to do with the drifferent types of hard drives, or maybe a bios setting or something
[07:24] <Hail_Spacecake> anyone?
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> hello
[07:25] <aldaek> i had ubuntu 6.10 working on it, cept the nic card
[07:25] <ubuntu_install> why does ubuntu v6 have long term support and ubuntu 7 does not?
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> I need instructions on how to install a game please
[07:25] <mtx1> anyone know how to change default mail client in ubuntu with kde? i have read about 5 guides but none of them work with my setup im on fiesty fawn 32
[07:25] <Infected_PC> i also hear a lot of people say something like hey you got a south something MB, blah blah blah i stop listening
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> a specific game for ubuntu
[07:25] <mtx1> what game?
[07:25] <byonix> Hail_Spacecake, i choose ubuntu, because the WIFI out of box features
[07:25] <Rexor_Moon> it's called singularity-0.26a
[07:26] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: what's your problem?
[07:26] <Rexor_Moon> I lack the terminal expertise to install and run the game
[07:26] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: I assume you know that version 25-1 is available in the repos?
[07:26] <aldaek> ill try tonight while i eat.... since i have something to read... if not.. i may just go to suse
[07:26] <xs4545x> ubuntu_install: from my understanding it's because they are going to release a version every 3 years that will be lts (long term support) and every 6 months come out with a new version and you can make the decision of whether to upgrade
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> repos?
[07:27] <aldaek> repository
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> no
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> I did not know that
[07:27] <xs4545x> i hate compiz
[07:27] <Infected_PC> stupid, you didn't know that =; gawd everyone knows that
[07:27] <mtx1> sudo aptitude install singularity
[07:27] <aldaek> a cache of packages for ubuntu et al
[07:27] <Rexor_Moon> you're talking to a total linux newbie here, sorry
[07:27] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: yes, version 25-1 is available in synaptic, and possibly even the add/remove menu
[07:27] <Hail_Spacecake> hmm
[07:28] <J-_> if I have 2 crobjobs on the same schedule, will they conflict with each other?
[07:28] <mtx1> type that in terminal
[07:28] <Infected_PC> aldaek, have you seen fedora core's new version?
[07:28] <aldaek> hey. dont redicule the new guys. help them. even when some of them dont read or understand  the reading material
[07:28] <Rexor_Moon> thank you
[07:28] <Rexor_Moon> it seems to be working
[07:28] <aldaek> its no longer fedora core... drop core.. and you have fedora 7
[07:28] <aldaek> yes i do.
[07:28] <Infected_PC> and btw i was being sarcastic
[07:28] <xs4545x> thank you aldaek
[07:28] <TomPurnell> Rexor_Moon: good luck with it, it can be quite hard to win sometimes
[07:29] <Rexor_Moon> thank you
[07:29] <byonix> DShepherd, can you resolve the problem of not receiving DCC file send in Xchat-Gnome?
[07:29] <aldaek> actually his first reaction to that was way to sarcastic to be taken well.
[07:29] <xs4545x> i would like to throw out there that the official ubuntu book is an easy read for a total linux newb
[07:29] <SAMW> I have one more compiz problem
[07:29] <aldaek> im in tech support, you have no choice but to be patient with them
[07:29] <SAMW> install wise
[07:29] <omari> anybody have any good sites or books to read for irc
[07:29] <DShepherd> byonix, umm.. no. I am not that smart :-)
[07:29] <xs4545x> i have a compiz problem too.  i want to uninstall the whole damn thing
[07:29] <jason0_> Anyone know if there is a conveinent way to uninstall e17 (built from source)?
[07:29] <aldaek> official... not the ubuntu bible or what was the other book title...
[07:30] <byonix> well anyone?
[07:30] <lmosher> Big problems.. nothing will run. Literally. I -just- completed a fresh install of Ubuntu and did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... Rebooted as required. Now it boots fine, but when I choose an app from the menu (say terminal...) it just says "starting terminal" in the panel, then that disappears but nothing ever pops up
[07:30] <aldaek> um.... did e17 come in a deb?
[07:30] <xs4545x> aldaek: nope, the official ubuntu book
[07:30] <omari> I hate e17
[07:30] <Infected_PC> xs4545x try the #compiz-fusion room
[07:30] <omari> i have that on my ps3 and it stinks like manure
[07:30] <h1st0> lmosher: possibly you have a hung process or two?
[07:30] <SAMW> I'm hanging on a compiz install need some help
[07:30] <h1st0> lmosher: try logged out of your session and loggin back in.
[07:30] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[07:30] <lmosher> h1st0: Ok I'll give that a shot
[07:30] <xs4545x> infected_pc: hell yeah, were is that
[07:30] <h1st0> SAMW: /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:31] <byonix> i don't receive my dcc file transfers, the progress bar is zero & what is the best windows emulator?
[07:31] <mojo> Architecture question:  Is the Pentium 4 considerd i686, or should I stick with i386?
[07:31] <xs4545x> haha
[07:31] <h1st0> lmosher: or a restart worst case scenario
[07:31] <xs4545x> damn
[07:31] <Infected_PC> type in /join #compiz-fusion
[07:31] <h1st0> mojo: i686
[07:31] <aldaek> i386 based system, yes
[07:31] <SAMW> hist0, do you want to know where i'm hanging
[07:31] <mojo> h1st0: thaks
[07:31] <h1st0> aldaek: isn't it 686
[07:31] <aldaek> and sometimes it is considered i686
[07:31] <h1st0> aldaek: yeah it is
[07:31] <lmosher> h1st0: Ok log in/out works, never had that before.. glad was nothing serious. Thanks :)
[07:31] <aldaek> depends who wrote the package/text
[07:32] <aldaek> x86 is what you should start looking for.
[07:32] <h1st0> lmosher: like I say proly just something hung up you could have fixed it with out loggin out but it would have been a pita to explain.
[07:32] <mtx1> anyone here ever see how long they could let a ubuntu system run? i have had mine up for 93 days before we had to move so i gotta start over
[07:32] <h1st0> mtx1: yeah there have been linux systems up for yearsh
[07:32] <Infected_PC> lol, how do you go 93 days without shutting down?
[07:32] <Infected_PC> no updates?
[07:32] <mtx1> oh im sure of that just about personal systems
[07:32] <mojo> aldaek: h1st0:  I am installing ardour-gtk-i686 on a pentium 4 machine, wanted to be sure the -i686 version would be okay.  It should take advanatge of instruction set enhancements if Pentium 4 supports that arch.
[07:32] <SAMW> i need help with a compiz install
[07:33] <mtx1> none that required restart
[07:33] <h1st0> mojo: yeah
[07:33] <aldaek> yes
[07:33] <n2diy> mtx1: linux system uptimes are measured in years.
[07:33] <mojo> :)
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Infected_PC: the only time you would need to reboot is a kernel update
[07:33] <Infected_PC> what about driver updates?
[07:33] <mtx1> LOL sweet well im coming from windows systems i never seen one run over 30 days
[07:33] <lmosher> But kernel updates happen more frequently than a year
[07:33] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: or hardware upgrades...
[07:34] <TomPurnell> not everyone runs the stock ubuntu kernel
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: and they arent exactly very often ;)
[07:34] <aldaek> Book: Ubuntu Linux for Non-Geeks - Review by Manfred Moser
[07:34] <Infected_PC> samw #compiz-fusion room, down the hall to the left ;)
[07:34] <paotzu> what version of ubuntu should I download for quad core xeon?  amd64?
[07:34] <slavik`lap> paotzu: yes
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> paotzu: regular 32 bit
[07:34] <Infected_PC> ubuntu 64bit edition
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Infected_PC: silly answer
[07:34] <slavik`lap> paotzu: even 32bit is fine, but youwon't have 64bit stuff
[07:35] <paotzu> ...
[07:35] <Infected_PC> silly paddy cake :-P
[07:35] <slavik`lap> paotzu: you want 64bit progs? get 64bit
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> unless you need 64 then there is no point
[07:35] <aldaek> since 64bit is so new... not a lot of programs are available for it yet... but the ones that are, are sometimes buggy
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> to much hassle and it simply aint ready ;)
[07:35] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: depends on who and what..  home system is constantly being upgraded.  new hard disk, new dvd/rom, motherboard upgrade, adding ram, new video card, wireless kbd/mouse, you name it...
[07:35] <Infected_PC> then there's no point in buying a processor that can handle a 64 bit OS
[07:35] <TomPurnell> ubuntu's 64bit support isn't fantastic. a lot of hassle for the average user
[07:36] <paotzu> well I am familiar with the amd64 problems with amd hardware, I was just wondering about xeon
[07:36] <paotzu> I can install the wrapper for flash and all that
[07:36] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: errr, usin lin a looooooooonnng time and that is still to rear its uly head ;)
[07:36] <Infected_PC> i thought xeon was more geared toward servers...
[07:36] <Paddy_EIRE> *ugly
[07:36] <paotzu> I have 7 quad core xeon desktops
[07:37] <TomPurnell> paotzu: that is just greedy.
[07:37] <aldaek> must be nice
[07:37] <Infected_PC> so... where you gettin all the drugs you're selling?
[07:37] <SAMW> Initializing expo options...done
[07:37] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: you obviously keep an overly complex system...enjoy
[07:37] <aldaek> infected: not a legal profession to get into
[07:38] <paotzu> it's not like I use all of them myself!  I will go start the amd64 torrent then, thank you
[07:38] <andyp_> hi
[07:38] <aldaek> job security is low.... competition can kill.. etc
[07:38] <Infected_PC> well, if he's got 7 quad core xeon processor computers... then i got 8
[07:38] <slawekk> :)
[07:38] <h1st0> !offtopic
[07:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> paotzu: are you a cyber terrorist or do you like flexing pointless hardware muscle ;)
[07:38] <slawekk> hello my freinds bla bla bla
[07:38] <Infected_PC> and i'm coming in chat to ask what version of linux to install on them :-)
[07:38] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: who said i was talking about me?  lol..  MY reason is mostly troubleshooting/fixing other peoples stuff, making quick backups of my roomie's hard disk before the ritualistic windows xp reinstall, etc..
[07:38] <aldaek> oops. sorry..
[07:39] <slawekk> get out your home my hommies
[07:39] <slawekk> lol
[07:39] <andyp_> need a bitorrennt software client that will work without port forwarding as i am on cable
[07:39] <slawekk> beautiful summer
[07:39] <slawekk> :)
[07:39] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: use transmission or deluge
[07:39] <aldaek> anyways. going to try another install of ubuntu 7.04 on my sata 2 drive on an amd64 with 32/bit vers
[07:39] <epiclulz> is there an easy way to setup wpa-psk wireless on ubuntu? i already have ndiswrapper driver installed and everything
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: if you must use 'utorrent' under wine
[07:40] <mojo> Paddy_EIRE: but agreed, linux systems CAN have uptimes in years.  The OS being b0rked is rarely a reason to down Linux, like it is with you-know-who's OS's... In linuxland you tend to have GOOD reasons for downtime, lol
[07:40] <Infected_PC> aldaek, check with those sata 2 drives
[07:40] <Infected_PC> that might be your problem
[07:40] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: top o d moring to ya thanks
[07:40] <h1st0> andyp_: doesn't gnomebt able to do this?
[07:40] <aldaek> what about them
[07:40] <Infected_PC> goodnight
[07:41] <aldaek> seagate 160GB
[07:41] <logan-koester> What window managers are popular these days and work well with Ubuntu? (Apart from KDE/GNOME)
[07:41] <aldaek> compiz/beryl
[07:41] <h1st0> logan-koester: XFCE
[07:41] <aldaek> though, not true window managers
[07:41] <gudi> hi guys.
[07:42] <h1st0> logan-koester: there are tons
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: yeah in linux the reason is normally, (P.I.C.N.I.C) Problem In Chair Not In Computer!!!
[07:42] <mojo> logan-koester: XFCE is available in the Xubuntu flavor... it is a light-weight GTK based one similar to GNOME without all the extra bloat
[07:42] <gudi> Is it possible to undo a "rm file" in ext3 ?
[07:42] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[07:42] <h1st0> gudi: testdisk maybe
[07:42] <mojo> logan-koester: another one I am really liking is Enlightenment 17, though I am only just getting familiar with it
[07:42] <mojo> gudi: unrm on sourceforge
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> mojo: fvwm-crystal is excellent
[07:42] <h1st0> n2diy: the hardware hung up?
[07:43] <logan-koester> I never liked XFCE... I do like fvwm and similar
[07:43] <mrigns> mojo, I bet you can't find a linux machine with an uptime greater to 497 days ;P
[07:43] <n2diy> hist0, no, I swapped out the hardware.
[07:43] <andyp_> i suppose it makes not much diffrence which bitorrennt  client you use they are all 5 days for a 4.7 gig file without port forwarding
[07:43] <mojo> logan-koester: that's the beauty.. you can use whatever you like
[07:43] <mojo> mrigns: what happened 497 days ago?
[07:43] <h1st0> logan-koester: icewm
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: well that depends on which tracker you use
[07:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ;)
[07:44] <logan-koester> I've never tried Compiz
[07:44] <h1st0> n2diy: who knows its working now right?
[07:44] <mrigns> mojo, nothing, that's just the maximum the uptime counter of linux can/will show
[07:44] <h1st0> andyp_: ?
[07:44] <andyp_> ok well you suggested two clients did you not?
[07:44] <mojo> mrigns: lol
[07:44] <andyp_> tracker?
[07:44] <h1st0> No just the default one built in to gnome
[07:45] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: you are aware of how torrents work...right?
[07:45] <n2diy> hist0, yes, but it has happened twice since the last up date. I shouldn't have to bring the box down with init 1, etc... But if that is the fix, I can live with it.
[07:45] <andyp_> yes almost
[07:45] <gudi> mojo, thats not for ext3
[07:46] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: use a descent tracker instead of a big silly public one
[07:46] <logan-koester> Does any linux text editor support Textmate snippets yet?
[07:46] <mojo> gudi: my bad, i thought it was.  just off the top of the head ya know..
[07:46] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: oinkcd are good and potuk
[07:46] <h1st0> andyp_: did kpp update?
[07:47] <andyp_> i use this  url #
[07:47] <andyp_> # Click this link: http://www.mininova.org/get/692474
[07:47] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: http://oink.cd/
[07:47] <Miso> I need help downgrading from 64 bit ubuntu to 32 bit
[07:47] <Myrtti> andyp_: whaat?
[07:47] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: http://www.potuk.com/newforum/ <--and here
[07:47] <n2diy> hist0, hmm, I don't know? I've been using it for years, and thought it was stable?
[07:47] <Myrtti> andyp_: let's keep those torrent links out of here, please
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: hey pretty
[07:48] <logan-koester> Will I be able to read data from a Vista (ntfs I think?) partition within Ubuntu?
[07:48] <Myrtti> heya
[07:48] <andyp_> sorry
[07:48] <logan-koester> that was still a problem the last time I used linux in a desktop environment
[07:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: we managed to start 'ubuntu-ie' :D
[07:48] <h1st0> Miso: just install the 32 bit version?
[07:49] <h1st0> Miso: You could just backup yoru ~ and then you woulnd't have to worry bout data loss
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: still very basic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: how are you keeping??
[07:49] <Miso> h1st0: the installation doesn't seem to detect my windows installation
[07:49] <ubuntu_install> where can i get the ubuntu alternate cd?
[07:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: just returned home from my 24th :D
[07:49] <ubuntu_install> !alternate
[07:49] <andyp_> thanks for the urls I will register with both see what happens
[07:49] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:49] <n2diy> ! alternate
[07:50] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: life goes on again ;-)
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> yes,
[07:50] <ubuntu_install> !minimal
[07:50] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: you single yet...:D
[07:50] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: working on it :-)
[07:51] <Miso> how can i install ubuntu when my HDD is divided into two partitions with windows installed on one of them already
[07:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: you'll have to get over here for a holiday :)
[07:51] <epiclulz> is there an easy way to setup wpa-psk wireless on ubuntu? i already have ndiswrapper driver installed and everything
[07:51] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: hehehe :-D
[07:52] <andyp_> theres a another Irish guy here sometimes his nick is ompaul
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> thats right
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> aint seen him in a while
[07:52] <n2diy> Lots of Irish here.
[07:52] <avis_> what is the tar command to .tar uncompressed a directory in a users home directory ?
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> good
[07:52] <Paddy_EIRE> :D
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> avis_: man tar
[07:53] <crolle17> how to get a process which is stopped back in working-mode?
[07:53] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: thanks for the urls
[07:53] <h1st0> Miso: ?  You need some free un partitioned space on your drive
[07:53] <x80h> HI ALL
[07:53] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: ofcourse...no probs
[07:53] <epiclulz> someone please help me connect to my router. it uses WPA-PSK as security
[07:53] <x80h> need help on setting up raid0 on edgy-desktop
[07:54] <h1st0> !wpa | epiclulz
[07:54] <Zoris> Help anyone? In ubuntu fiesty I can't access my internet. It recognizes my wireless but will not connect
[07:54] <ubotu> epiclulz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:54] <crolle17> i know how to kill it (by kill -9 pid) but how to get it working?
[07:54] <andyp_> I can get trackers from there I suppose?
[07:54] <flash42> gudi: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2687541#post2687541
[07:54] <Paddy_EIRE> x80h: why are you still using edgy
[07:54] <Miso> h1st0: I have a 160 gig hdd divided in half and the ubuntu installation does not detect my windows installation
[07:54] <epiclulz> h1st0: thanks i'll check it out
[07:54] <h1st0> Miso: what version of windows are you running?
[07:54] <Miso> xp
[07:54] <h1st0> Miso: and are you sure that windows is still there?
[07:54] <Zoris> Help anyone? In ubuntu fiesty I can't access my internet. It recognizes my wireless but will not connect
[07:55] <h1st0> Miso: it shound't have a problem findin the windows partition at all.
[07:55] <h1st0> !patience | Zoris
[07:55] <ubotu> Zoris: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: how are you? whats goin on...:)
[07:55] <x80h> cos i have edgy cd and not feisty :p
[07:55] <flash42> ubuntu with this unreliable update method and half-year-new-os style beats windows reinstall records
[07:55] <n2diy> Paddy_EIRE: I think that is the wrong question? My question would be why aren't you using Dapper? :)
[07:55] <novato_br> Processor: AMD 3800+ X2 64 bits / Memory: 1GB DDR2 667mhz  / Mboard: ASUS M2NPV-VM / Chipset: nforce430 / Video Card: GPU Nvidia Geforce 6150 / Audio: SoundMAX HD Audio / ethenert card: nvidia 1Gbps/  Hard Disk: SATA 2.0 250GB / Recorder: LG H20N  DVD+CDR / Display: LG T730SH  17" / Keyboard: Multimedia + usb /Mouse: ptico
[07:55] <h1st0> Miso: are you in the ubuntu live disk right now?
[07:55] <andyp_> r-drake tls 6.0.0. is the server the rest since are all add ons
[07:55] <novato_br> is it good pc ?
[07:56] <Miso> h1st0: yes it is there, I can still boot into it.  I had 64 bit ubuntu installed first with windows on a separate partition.  Now I want to install 32 bit ubuntu.  I'm not sure what method i should use to make sure my windows partition stays untouched
[07:56] <Miso> h1st0: yes
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> n2diy: yeah.....and that ;)
[07:56] <x80h> so how do i setup raid0 ? i got the alternate cd frm the site
[07:56] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: work, good friends, wine, cheeses, backache is slowly going away etc.
[07:56] <novato_br> is it good pc ?
[07:56] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: but this is really offtopic, you know
[07:56] <tacos> is it possible to install ubuntu and then later add windows?
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: it is
[07:56] <x80h> yeah but windows will override the mbr
[07:56] <xfiles_ken> HI
[07:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: still...
[07:56] <xfiles_ken> HELLO
[07:56] <tacos> so then what do I do after that
[07:56] <xfiles_ken> HAHA
[07:56] <flash42> tacos: yes
[07:57] <tacos> to have both running
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> don't use dapper and the other stupid names please.. use 6.0, 6.1, 7.04.. the stupid names are for the development versions.. so you are confusing people
[07:57] <n2diy> ?
[07:57] <xtknight> Davy_Jones, actually most people like the stupid names
[07:57] <x80h> can anyone help me out on setting up raid0 or lvm on edgy ?
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> i don't
[07:57] <tacos> how do I install windows after installing ubuntu?
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> and it's confusing
[07:57] <daimaso> j
[07:57] <Davy_Jones> so if i say dapper, i wouldn't mean 6.0 but the development version of it
[07:57] <flash42> Davy_Jones: you love numbers, girls can't even manage to learn them
[07:57] <xtknight> oh noes
[07:57] <x80h> its better not to .. its better to install windows first then ubuntu
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> once the thing is released it's given a version number
[07:58] <andyp_> hi
[07:58] <sauvin> Tacos, installing windows AFTER ubuntu can be a bit hairy. You have to re-install grub.
[07:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: sorry to trouble you.... :) glad to hear things are improving
[07:58] <x80h> otherwise u will have to reinstall bootloader and its a load of work :p
[07:58] <daimaso> Apuar lg ngaps
[07:58] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: they indeed are, and I'm happy
[07:58] <tacos> reinstalling grub hard?
[07:58] <sauvin> Daimaso, quelle langue fut ca?
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> it's not only that i love numbers.. but numbers are what they officially used
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> the names are not official
[07:58] <Davy_Jones> and they mean something else
[07:58] <flash42> it can be done easily to reinstall grub, if you know what you are doing
[07:58] <x80h> someone pls hellp me on how to RAID0 on edgy ?
[07:59] <n2diy> ! es | sauvin
[07:59] <ubotu> sauvin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:59] <daimaso> You are so crazy
[07:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: could I get your email address...?
[07:59] <Miso> h1st0: use entire disk, largest continuous free space or manual partitioning?
[07:59] <TomPurnell> Davy_Jones: I think you're wrong. The version numbers now simply refer to the year and month of the release, gutsy being 7.10 for example
[07:59] <tacos> I have a question about the 4 different desktops... what exacty are they for? I thought you could have different backgrounds on each at least but you can't..
[07:59] <xfiles_ken> hello,hello
[07:59] <x80h> entire disk :p
[07:59] <TomPurnell> Davy_Jones: the names are an easier way to identify versions for most people
[07:59] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: need some help this url you gave me http://oink.cd/howtojoin.php says
[07:59] <andyp_> If you don't know any OiNK member who could invite you, you're probably out of luck for an account. same with the other url http://www.potuk.com/newforum/register.php?s
[08:00] <xtknight> theyre codenames not beta names.
[08:00] <mtx1> get super grub disk it loads grub real easy
[08:00] <sauvin> (1) That was FRENCH I spoke, (2) I can manage in English well enough to get by, (3) I don't even KNOW any Spanish, and (4) I was trying to ask what language that was that daimaso in case he needed to be directed to someplace more useful to him.
[08:00] <daimaso> can you introduce your self!
[08:00] <Zoris> Can anybody help me? I'm running ubuntu 7.04 and I cannot connect to my wireless although linux recognizes the signal.
[08:00] <x80h> has anybody setup raid0 on ubuntu ? i really need help badly
[08:00] <Davy_Jones> TomPurnell: how can you tell what version is the latest if i tell you this.. dapper, edgy, feisty
[08:00] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: what would you do with it ;-)
[08:01] <mtx1> zoris go in network settings and make sure there isnt a dns from another connection still in there
[08:01] <daimaso> Kamu suka permen kaki yang satusan?
[08:01] <x80h> =))
[08:01] <flash42> Davy_Jones: hehe, xp or vista
[08:01] <xtknight> Davy_Jones, how can you tell that "7.04" is the latest?
[08:01] <Davy_Jones> flash42: i didn't say i agree with those too
[08:01] <tacos>  I have a question about the 4 different desktops... what exacty are they for? I thought you could have different backgrounds on each at least but you can't. You can't even put password on them or anything.. I mean what is the point of them?
[08:01] <n2diy> Davy_Jones: d, e, f, get it?
[08:01] <xtknight> last time i checked numbers went over 7.04 but dont quote me on it
[08:01] <Flannel> Davy_Jones: Because October of 2007 hasn't happened yet?
[08:01] <Flannel> er, xtknight
[08:01] <Davy_Jones> xtknight: because the number is larger than 6 or 6.1
[08:02] <xtknight> ok you win
[08:02] <sauvin> tacos, I often have the newsreader running on desktop 2, private chats on 3 and misc stuff on 4 so my main workspace, desktop 1, isn't so cluttered.
[08:02] <mtx1> tacos so you can get more done i keep file browsers in one, inet browsers in another...etc
[08:02] <xfiles_ken> hello ,hello,what are you doing?
[08:02] <crolle17> how to get a process which is stopped back in working-mode?
[08:02] <flash42> Davy_Jones: my mom understands one and forgets the other
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: well there is the difference between a good tracker and a bad one :D
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: 5 days for 4 odd gb can kiss my ass
[08:02] <Paddy_EIRE> :p
[08:02] <TomPurnell> I think the only reason the names aren't completely ubiquitous are for internationalisation reasons
[08:02] <crolle17> how to get a process which is stopped back into working-mode?
[08:02] <Miso> x80h: i want to preserve my windows partition and installation
[08:02] <Miso> how should I install ubuntu on the second partition?
[08:02] <Miso> i am trying to reuse the partition that i had ubuntu 64 bit installed on
[08:02] <x80h> >> need help with setting up raid <<
[08:02] <Superkuh> !automatix
[08:02] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[08:02] <tacos> so it's basically just one desktop that spans over 4, so you have more room kinda
[08:02] <xtknight> well "feisty" slips off your tongue faster than 7.04 anyways
[08:03] <byonix> does gutsy gibbon already out?
[08:03] <xtknight> byonix, october
[08:03] <mtx1> yup exactly
[08:03] <x80h> so u have freespace left after windows installation ?
[08:03] <Flannel> crolle17: stopped with ctrl-z?
[08:03] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: did you see my posr re the urls you gave me?
[08:03] <mtx1> and you can set how many you want so if you only need 2 or if you want 15
[08:03] <andyp_> post
[08:03] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: did you see my reply...
[08:04] <Zoris> mtx: what do you mean?
[08:04] <tacos> is there any way to customize the colors of gnome more than the like 4 options you get with ubuntu default install
[08:04] <Davy_Jones> it's not about winning, it's about using the right words and version numbers.. ask the developers.. they'll tell you that version numbers are officially used not the names
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: I would do nothing but nce things :P
[08:04] <mtx1> as many desktops
[08:04] <silas428> is anyone willing to walk me step by step in getting my webpages on the internet using apache
[08:04] <mtx1> tacos: www.kde-look.org
[08:04] <Myrtti> Paddy_EIRE: I'll think about it ;-)
[08:04] <Flannel> silas428: put them in /var/www, make sure they're readable by www-data
[08:04] <mtx1> err im sorry
[08:04] <mtx1> was thinkin kde
[08:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Myrtti: ok, I hope so
[08:04] <tacos> mtx1: I'll just assume you meant gnome-look.org
[08:05] <mtx1> LOL im a  towel
[08:05] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: yes its here but its KNOWING the diffrenceandyp_: well there is the difference between a good tracker and a bad one :D
 andyp_: 5 days for 4 odd gb can kiss my ass
 :p
[08:05] <n2diy> Davy_Jones: maybe you'd be happy in #ubuntu-kernel? They like numbering schemes?
[08:05] <jovatox> hi
[08:05] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: errr, so never mind
[08:05] <Bogus8> the console version is working... I can add torrents and such... just can't fire up the webUI
[08:05] <Bogus8> anyone using azureus with the WebUI?  I have mine working in CLI but I can't get he webUI to work
[08:06] <Bogus8> oops
[08:06] <tacos> guys let's all argue about wether to call ubuntu by the codename or the version numbers ok?
[08:06] <Davy_Jones> n2diy: you were not listening were you?
[08:06] <n2diy> Davy_Jones: No, sorry, I was reading.
[08:06] <crolle17> Flannel, yes
[08:06] <jovatox> ubuntu irc in spanish
[08:06] <Paddy_EIRE> andyp_: if you plan on sharing a ratio 1:1 of what you download then I suggest you hold out
[08:06] <andyp_> Paddy_EIRE: did you know that invation only sites must mean that they do not want a certain class of people?
[08:07] <jovatox> ?
[08:07] <Flannel> crolle17: type 'jobs' and get the number of it, then %# where # is the job.  like %1 or %2
[08:07] <voltagex> hi, I was wondering if there's a jigdo image available for Gutsy tribe 4.
[08:07] <jovatox> ubuntu irc in spanish?
[08:07] <tacos> What torrent client is recommended for ubuntu? assuming my favorite in windows is utorrent
[08:07] <x-Dieu> !es
[08:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:07] <tacos> in english though
[08:07] <xtknight> hmm
[08:08] <Bogus8> tacos: azureus is where utorrent got their GUI from
[08:08] <ubuntu4ever> hi - can anyone help out with a madwifi-ng install on feisty?
[08:08] <jovatox> ok, thanks
[08:08] <tacos> Bogus8: I installed azureus on someone's mac and it looked NOTHING like utorrent in the slightest..
[08:08] <crolle17> jobs --> [3] +  Stopped                 psql -h localhost ceis ceis_admin  --> %3   --> psql -h localhost ceis ceis_admin    --> but no commandline for typing
[08:09] <xtknight> !torrent
[08:09] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[08:09] <crolle17> Flannel, ^^
[08:09] <xtknight> there was a newer client too
[08:09] <tacos> !thanks
[08:09] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:09] <Bogus8> tacos: well I haven't run azureus in GUI version in a while but when I first ran utorrent I was like "wow, what a rip off from azureus" but it ran better
[08:09] <Davy_Jones> tacos: run uTorrent on wine
[08:09] <crolle17> Flannel, jobs --> [3] +  Stopped                 psql -h localhost ceis ceis_admin  --> %3   --> psql -h localhost ceis ceis_admin    --> but no commandline for typing
[08:09] <Flannel> crolle17: You don't need to repeat it
[08:09] <ubuntu4ever> thought i had everything installed, but apparently i can't go into monitor mode, although kismet seems to work fine.
[08:09] <tacos> I don't want to switch over to linux just to have to run windows programs ;-p
[08:09] <crolle17> Flannel, ah. o.k. i got it working. thank you
[08:09] <Davy_Jones> tacos: you have to adapt then
[08:10] <Davy_Jones> tacos: don't expect things will look like what you're used to
[08:10] <tacos> Actually I can just ignore them all together
[08:10] <tacos> and go with the open source stuff
[08:10] <sauvin> I dual boot, so as to be able to use Windows programs when I MUST.
[08:10] <tacos> I'm dual booting with server 2008 because I need to learn actve directory
[08:10] <SAMW> hey
[08:11] <tacos> !torrent
[08:11] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[08:11] <n2diy> Linux is not Windows, deal with it.
[08:11] <SAMW> i now need help installing a system tray icon
[08:11] <tacos> who are you talking to?
[08:11] <SAMW> anyone that can help
[08:11] <voltagex> SAMW: what do you mean a system tray icon
[08:11] <Davy_Jones> tacos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client
[08:11] <tacos> not you sam =] 
[08:11] <n2diy> Who are you talking to? :)
[08:11] <SAMW> o
[08:11] <SAMW> well
[08:11] <Bogus8> tacos: just go with LDAP and forget AD
[08:12] <tacos> man ubuntu is so hot
[08:12] <fiction> does anyone know if gconf can change the themes?
[08:12] <Bogus8> anyone using azureus with the WebUI?  I have mine working in CLI but I can't get he webUI to work
[08:12] <Flannel> fiction: why not just use a theme to change it?
[08:13] <fiction> Flannel: making a program
[08:13] <SAMW> voltagex i got the fusion-icon folder (with the image for the system tray icon, and a makefile) and i wanted to know how to istall it
[08:13] <tacos> i like how when you ask what torrent client people recommend, you get one guy who spawns an auto-responding bot list and one guy who points me to wikipedia =]  thanks for the personal opinion there guys
[08:13] <fiction> i already figured out how to change the wallpaper...was wondering if its possible to change theme
[08:13] <voltagex> SAMW: ah, if it has a makefile then you need to open up terminal and type some commands
[08:14] <logan_koester> What are the odds of my finding a driver to use my EVDO phone as a dial up modem?
[08:14] <SAMW> ok
[08:14] <tacos> hey guys want to know what I think about ABORTION??? here it is! --> http://www.google.com/search?q=abortion
[08:14] <fiction> lol tacos
[08:14] <tacos> =D
[08:14] <xtknight> hahah
[08:14] <Bogus8> tacos: I gave you one and you snubbed your nose at it... why would you expect others to volunteer?
[08:14] <Flannel> fiction: you might try #gnome-art on irc.gnome.org
[08:14] <tacos> I didn't snub my nose mayn
[08:14] <tacos> I just was questioning you, hope you don't mind =] 
[08:14] <fiction> Flannel: thanks man
[08:15] <n2diy> mayn?
[08:15] <tacos> man
[08:15] <n2diy> :)
[08:15] <fiction__> f
[08:15] <ubuntu4ever> logan_koester: which phone?
[08:15] <tacos> are you running azureus now?
[08:15] <tacos> err i mean now as in these days
[08:15] <logan_koester> ubuntu4ever: the windows mobile 5 based htc apache
[08:16] <logan_koester> It works great as a modem in Vista and XP, I honestly couldn't live without it
[08:16] <tacos> I just don't want azureus if it's going to look like this: --> http://www.p2p-blog.com/media/1/20061204-snipshot_8417ipgmsgj4.jpg
[08:16] <logan_koester> I can't go back to stealing wifi whenever I need to get online
[08:16] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[08:16] <logan_koester> that shit never worked
[08:16] <voltagex> logan_koester: you need to know what brand it is, and I can't help you any further other than suggesting a google search
[08:17] <byonix> EMERGENCY, sorry, i use apt-get install something, but it didn't finish, i close it, now i cannot run apt-get install again
[08:17] <byonix> how to resolve it
[08:17] <logan_koester> voltagex: I just mentioned the brand
[08:17] <faileas> byronix: does it give you a message to run some dpkg thing?
[08:17] <byonix> faileas, yes
[08:17] <voltagex> logan_koester: sorry, missed that
[08:18] <logan_koester> :)
[08:18] <byonix> faileas you are right
[08:18] <faileas> do it
[08:18] <faileas> takes ages, but it wil fix it
[08:18] <ubuntu4ever> logan_koester: pretty good odds. there's an article on google about teathered mode to fedora.
[08:18] <byonix> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:18] <logan_koester> really? wooh! didn't expect that
[08:18] <byonix> faileas how?
[08:18] <erika14212> darn
[08:18] <tacos> anyone use deluge?
[08:18] <logan_koester> ubuntu4ever: you don't happen to have the link handy do you? If not I can google...
[08:18] <KenSentMe> I'm having problems setting up a gprs connection through my bluetooth mobile. Is there anyone that can point me to some explanation of the codes i get when i run pppd dial?
[08:18] <erika14212> i installed xubuntu i thought
[08:18] <faileas> byronix type in sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:18] <faileas> then wait
[08:18] <faileas> wait a LONG while
[08:19] <benji> hello
[08:19] <benji> how to do i run .run filesd
[08:19] <benji> ?
[08:19] <ubuntu4ever> andrewtv.org/fedora-ppc6700
[08:19] <logan_koester> thanks
[08:19] <erika14212> iget command line
[08:19] <byonix> faileas, it resolve the unfinished install
[08:19] <faileas> erm
[08:19] <faileas> i can't remember
[08:19] <Frogzoo> KenSentMe: did you set line speed/parity?
[08:19] <ubuntu4ever> you bet, good luck.
[08:20] <benji> how to do i run .run files?
[08:20] <voltagex> benji:  what is the .run file for?
[08:20] <faileas> but after its done, you can run apt-get again
[08:20] <craft> is there a default root password?
[08:20] <benji> to install americas army
[08:20] <voltagex> benji: don't repeat the question
[08:20] <n2diy> benji: didn't we discuss this last night? What was the outcome.?
[08:20] <benji> soz
[08:20] <faileas> craft: no
[08:20] <erika14212> did not network install
[08:20] <erika14212> ubuntu i guess aint for me
[08:20] <erika14212> i get to root
[08:20] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo, don't know actually. Here is the topic on the forums with all the files in it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526557
[08:21] <erika14212> i thought xubuntu desktop
[08:21] <erika14212> would start up
[08:21] <anathematic> what's a good brand of wireless router?
[08:21] <faileas> erika: try startx ?
[08:21] <benji> n2diy: we didnt discuss .run files?
[08:21] <craft> ahh, sudo rules for the user I added ;] 
[08:21] <erika14212> at root
[08:21] <erika14212> at root
[08:21] <tacos> how do you run a program as root
[08:21] <tacos> through gnome
[08:22] <n2diy> benji: ok, must have been somebody else. What is a .run file?
[08:22] <erika14212> ok
[08:22] <benji> a file with the extension .run
[08:22] <erika14212> ill have to restart
[08:22] <faileas> tacos: gksudo
[08:22] <benji> its for installing americas army
[08:22] <erika14212> my pc again
[08:22] <tacos> gksudo? right click?
[08:22] <n2diy> What generates a .run file?
[08:23] <benji> no idea
[08:23] <xtknight> a .run file is usually an installer
[08:23] <tacos> http://filext.com/file-extension/RUN
[08:23] <faileas> tacos- using run...
[08:23] <benji> yeh i guessed that much
[08:23] <faileas> alt f2
[08:23] <faileas> OR sudo from command line
[08:23] <xtknight> chmod +x ./asdf.run && ./asdf.run
[08:23] <n2diy> Hmm, so why do you want to use it?
[08:23] <benji> to install americas army
[08:24] <xtknight> benji, "chmod +x americas_army.run  " then "./americas_army.run" that's it, no sudo
[08:24] <n2diy> Ah, I see, sorry I'm not a gamer, so I have no clue.
[08:24] <tacos> I'm looking at the run box, i chose text editer but how do I set it to be root
[08:24] <benji> no sudo?
[08:24] <benji> oh ok thx
[08:25] <n2diy> ! root
[08:25] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:26] <tacos> anyone know how to run text editor with root privelages without using the terminal?
[08:26] <erika14212> i got login ubuntu
[08:26] <erika14212> typed in y user name
[08:26] <erika14212> password
[08:27] <erika14212> myname@ubuntu
[08:27] <erika14212> what dumbass creaed netwrk how stupid are they
[08:27] <flash42> tacos he?
[08:27] <erika14212> startx
[08:28] <erika14212> bad command
[08:28] <maxxism> wow deluge is a good torrent client.
[08:28] <tacos> he? I am a male yes
[08:28] <maxxism> guess i can stop using utorrent in wine.
[08:28] <erika14212> lost 1/3 of my hard disk
[08:28] <n2diy> erika14212: chill
[08:28] <tacos> maxxism: are you using that? I was wondering about that... I love utorrent. is deluge like it?
[08:28] <erika14212> why
[08:29] <maxxism> tacos exactly like it
[08:29] <erika14212> i went through
[08:29] <n2diy> erika14212: so you can play here.
[08:29] <erika14212> setup
[08:29] <tacos> awesome I'm gonna use that then screw closed source =] 
[08:29] <erika14212> choosexubuntu
[08:29] <alfatau> hello: i would want to set a standby timer (or be able to choose when to standby) on 2 of the 4 hard disks installed on my server. do you know how to?
[08:29] <erika14212> another damn nightmare
[08:30] <ian2> i have a printer and it was not detected by ubuntu by default...how can i use it? the model is HP 900 Inkjet Printer
[08:30] <pvl> how do you make programs run at startup?
[08:30] <maxxism> plus there is a dinary for fiesty right on the deluge download page.
[08:30] <erika14212> so ubuntu whatstart
[08:30] <maxxism> binary
[08:30] <erika14212> i wish i knew why
[08:30] <n2diy> pvl, go to your menu, sys > admin > printers, and install it.
[08:30] <tacos> does anyone know how to run a program in ubuntu with root access without using a terminal window? like in another operating system how you just shift-right click and do run as... and you can log into a different accuont
[08:31] <ian2> i have a printer and it was not detected by ubuntu by default...how can i use it? the model is HP 900 Inkjet Printer can anyone help me?
[08:31] <erika14212> ubuntu aint for everyone
[08:31] <maxxism> tacos gksu?
[08:31] <tacos> I don't understand what you are saying to me
[08:31] <erika14212> turns out to nightmare
[08:32] <n2diy> Nope, crackers hate it.
[08:32] <maxxism> tacos try the command gksu
[08:32] <tacos> what do you mean the command
[08:32] <erika14212> what am i dowrong
[08:32] <maxxism> its the gui equiv of sudo
[08:33] <n2diy> I lost my dialup connection, and when I went to re-connect, kppp told me the modem was busy.  I reset the modem, still busy, switched modems, still busy, disconnected the modem, and still busy. Reset the port with minicom, same thing. Did init 1 then init 5, logged out of root, and back in as me, and that fixed it. Ideas?
[08:33] <tacos> yes but... where do i type that exactly...
[08:33] <erika14212> anyone here
[08:33] <maxxism> umm.  you can add a run button to your toolbars
[08:33] <Myrtti> !enter | erika14212
[08:33] <ubotu> erika14212: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:33] <tacos> are you saying you have to open a terminal window to open text editor with root access?
[08:33] <Vertig1> hello
[08:33] <maxxism> no
[08:33] <ian2> i have a printer and it was not detected by ubuntu by default...how can i use it? the model is HP 900 Inkjet Printer can anyone help me?
[08:34] <erika14212> no
[08:34] <xtknight> tacos, you can make a shortcut to it
[08:34] <faileas> tacos: thats what i do.....
[08:34] <xtknight> tacos, "gksu gedit".  or pres ALT f2, and then type "gksu gedit" here
[08:34] <erika14212> im trying tofigure what is going on here
[08:34] <tacos> faileas: I don't like all that wasted time but suit yourself
[08:34] <maxxism> add a new application button to your tool bar.   and as the command set it to    "gksu gedit"
[08:34] <flash42> and erika14212 what?
[08:34] <n2diy> ian2, go to your menu, sys > admin > printers, and install it.
[08:34] <Vertig1> I have a question, if a program or game is for Kubuntu, does it still work for Ubuntu? Kolf is made for Kubuntu but seems fine in Ubuntu
[08:34] <tacos> xtknight: ok I'm trying that thanks
[08:34] <erika14212> sorry flash
[08:34] <n2diy> Vertig1: yes
[08:35] <faileas> tacos: i tend to almost always have a terminal window open and access my linux systems a lot with putty. it isn't a big deal ;)
[08:35] <erika14212> just ran setup on ubuntu
[08:35] <erika14212> through network
[08:35] <In[d] y> How can I see if I am using esd or alsa's dmix plugin?
[08:35] <faileas> Vertig1: KDE apps work in gnome and vice versa. its a matter of dependancies at worst
[08:35] <squarebottle> I have two computers that I go between, and they both use Ubuntu. I set up Pidgin with all my accounts and such on one. Is there an easy way I can copy that over to the other computer with ssh?
[08:35] <tebriel> i seem to be having problems starting php5 on my apache2 server, can anyone help me?  my .php files get a download box instead of opening as webpages
[08:35] <Vertig1> Ah thank you, faileas
[08:35] <squarebottle> They both already have Pidgin installed.
[08:35] <erika14212> i cant make install
[08:35] <tacos> I don't understand, what is the point of having a root account if all you have to do to run a program with root privelages is write that command in? it doesn't even ask for a password or anything
[08:35] <n2diy> In[d] y: lsmod
[08:36] <ian2> after i go to system>printing
[08:36] <ian2> what do I do?
[08:36] <xtknight> tacos, it should ask for a pw
[08:36] <xtknight> tacos, but there is a timeout
[08:36] <andyp_> hi
[08:36] <In[d] y> n2diy: thx
[08:36] <skinnypuppy1334> What do you do in compiz to get the cube to display? It's scroll button on mouse for beryl, how about for compiz??
[08:36] <tacos> it didn't ask, it just opened it up
[08:36] <xtknight> tacos, that's because you did "sudo" and entered a PW 5 mins earlier.  you dont want to type in the PW every time do you?
[08:36] <andyp_> i have a dpkg file that needs lots of deps do i run make-dep?
[08:36] <n2diy> In[d] y: good luck.
[08:36] <tacos> i didn't do sudo
[08:36] <andyp_> then the package name?
[08:37] <squarebottle> skinnypuppy1334: Hold Ctrl+Alt and then click and  drag with the left mouse button.
[08:37] <maxxism> tacos you must have been su recently if it didnt ask
[08:37] <In[d] y> n2diy: why do you say that?
[08:37] <tacos> oh i had to log in yeah for the update manager
[08:37] <In[d] y> n2diy: actually, I can't see either esd, neither dmix there
[08:37] <n2diy> In[d] y: because we all need it?
[08:37] <erika14212> god i wish i knew what im doing wrong
[08:38] <In[d] y> n2diy: right
[08:38] <ian2> the model HP 900 Inkjet is not in the list of the printers in system>printing....how do i install it??
[08:38] <n2diy> In[d] y: lshw might offer some clues for you too?
[08:38] <flash42> erika14212: what it can not be helped, you must know what are you doing
[08:38] <skinnypuppy1334> square bottle, on the desktop? Ctrl+Alt and then click and  drag with the left mouse button.
[08:38] <tacos> just so everyone knows, to manage one of my several ipcops at work, I have been using winscp and putty from my windows system and doing all this stuff. but in linux i don't even need any programs and can do everything way faster =] ] 
[08:38] <brutuz> has anyone ever used rsync?
[08:38] <erika14212> what command do i ytpe
[08:39] <ian2> the model HP 900 Inkjet is not in the list of the printers in system>printing....how do i install it??
[08:39] <erika14212> after i login
[08:39] <squarebottle> brutuz: Yes. What's up?
[08:39] <brutuz> it you create a file.. and rsync runs.. it will be copied to the other box..
[08:39] <alfatau> hello, i want to activate standby on some hard disks on my machine. howto? thanks
[08:39] <tacos> just thought I'd share that with everyone
[08:39] <erika14212> can someone tell me
[08:39] <gudi> damn.. I deletet the server.key file by mistake.. now I got the signed key files for m geotrust and have no key file...fuck
[08:39] <brutuz> but what if i want to replicate the delete..
[08:40] <flash42> erika14212: feel free to try it out
[08:40] <flash42> :)
[08:40] <squarebottle> !rsync
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <ian2> the model HP 900 Inkjet is not in the list of the printers in system>printing....how do i install it??
[08:40] <andyp_> i have a dpkg file that needs lots of deps do i run make-dep?
[08:40] <n2diy> ! homy | gudi
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about homy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <brutuz> what i mean is if i removed the file.. would it be possible to remove it also on the client boxes..
[08:40] <KenSentMe> Frogzoo, don't know actually. Here is the topic on the forums with all the files in it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=526557
[08:40] <KenSentMe> I'm having problems setting up a gprs connection through my bluetooth mobile. Is there anyone that can point me to some explanation of the codes i get when i run pppd dial?
[08:41] <tacos> in windows i used to go to control panel to see that hardware had drivers installed for it and they were up to date.. is there anything like this in ubuntu, so I could for example make sure the newest drivers were installed?
[08:41] <flash42> tacos: yeah synaptic
[08:41] <flash42> for "drivers"
[08:41] <n2diy> KenSentMe: Google for Xastir.
[08:42] <Myelin> hello, how do i create a resolv.conf file?
[08:42] <tacos> that seemed to only have programs in it, can you tell me for example where I would find out if it's using the best driver for my motherboard?
[08:42] <squarebottle> brutuz: Yes. You can just synchronize the folders, if the folders are suppose to contain the same thing. And if the local and remote folders aren't the same, then, well, I'd be using ssh.
[08:42] <KenSentMe> n2diy, uhm, what does that have to do with my gprs problem?
[08:42] <squarebottle> brutuz: Google "rsync commands" and see if you can get a little cheat sheet with a command for what you want, heh.
[08:43] <n2diy> KenSentMe: are you playing with a gps?
[08:43] <gudi> n2diy, homy ?
[08:43] <KenSentMe> n2diy, no, trying to use my cellphone as a gprs modem
[08:43] <tacos> is there a VLC or Gom player for ubuntu or similar?
[08:44] <flash42> tacos: if it's running you have support for it:)
[08:44] <sauvin> There most certainly IS a VLC.
[08:44] <n2diy> KenSentMe: does it use a gps for position reporting?
[08:44] <ian2> what do i do with ppd files?
[08:44] <KenSentMe> n2diy, no
[08:44] <tacos> flash42: in windows you can run a motherboard with totally old drivers and then you can update them.. are you saying this is not the case here?
[08:44] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe: Are you just doing that? Using your phone as a GPRS modem?
[08:44] <sauvin> ian2, those are PowerPoint files. You may be able to deal with them using OpenOffice.
[08:45] <erika14212> can somew please help
[08:45] <squarebottle> !ask
[08:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:45] <d4rkmonkey_> !ask | erika14212
[08:45] <sauvin> erika14212, what's up?
[08:45] <ubotu> erika14212: please see above
[08:45] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, i'm trying to. I want to be able to be on the internet when there's no wifi around on my laptop
[08:45] <d4rkmonkey_> o_O
[08:45] <n2diy> KenSentMe: ok, gprs stands for global position reporting, and Xastir is the OSS app for that. GL.
[08:46] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe: I'd want that too!!! :) - but isn't is a bit slow?
[08:46] <faileas> erm
[08:46] <n00dl3> hi ubotu, thanks for all your help
[08:46] <tacos> what's a good free open source irc client for ubuntu
[08:46] <flash42> tacos: if you are running an up-to-date kernel, and distribution
[08:46] <KenSentMe> n2diy, ah, now i understand the misunderstanding between us
[08:46] <sauvin> tacos: depends on who you ask. I like xchat.
[08:46] <faileas> GPRS is general packet radio service
[08:46] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, well, better than nothing
[08:46] <Ahadiel> tacos: xchat, or irssi
[08:46] <flash42> tacos: irssi, but it is "command line"
[08:46] <sauvin> Some people love BitchX.
[08:46] <flash42> who?
[08:46] <flash42> :)
[08:46] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe : and does it work with just any phone with GPRS and WAP(2)?
[08:47] <tacos> wow command line irc that's super nerdy, I might actually use that hehehe
[08:47] <skinnypuppy1334> squarebottle thanks for the compiz help again
[08:47] <n00dl3> tacos: It's actually very good
[08:47] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, i could also buy a pcmcia car for that, but it costs me even more and i have to get a second subscription
[08:47] <Quelqu`un> hi, all. I just installed kubuntu 7.04. everything is working great except for the wireless... is the intel prowireless 3945ABG card supported in ubuntu?
[08:47] <Akuma_> is there a way to make tty console text smaller? is that directly linked to the resolution?
[08:47] <brokenthorn> irssi++, miranda++ :D
[08:47] <flash42> tacos: it's not nerdy
[08:47] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, it should, i guess. But mine doesn't wror (yet)
[08:47] <squarebottle> skinnypuppy1334: No problemo. In the future though, they'd like you to go to #ubuntu-effects for Beryl and Compiz stuff.
[08:47] <flash42> see some screenshots if you want:)
[08:47] <tacos> flash24: is so nerdy
[08:47] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, *work
[08:47] <tacos> k
[08:49] <tacos> oh so it's not run through a terminal window but it's command line right?
[08:49] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe : I see. Could you tell me more now? Like if you are using a data cable, bluetooth or IR or whatever to patch the two up.
[08:49] <_mali_> hi, can anybody explain to me this pls http://openpaste.org/sk/2751/
[08:49] <tacos> and most importantly, can the background be transparent-ish ?
[08:49] <GiZiM> I just installed Cedega for the 1st time coming from WINE. I was wondering do i have to reinstall all the games that i want to use in Cedega? or is there a way i can use the reinstall? - I already asked in #Cedega but they are dead very dead anybody know?
[08:49] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, i'm using bluetooth. If you do a search on ubuntuforums.org you see some howto's on how to get it running.
[08:49] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe : and I know I saw this on a motorola phone, it had a menu option for setting it up as a modem.
[08:50] <_mali_> i don't know if it is hw or sw problem
[08:50] <flash42> tacos: it run's in a compatible terminal
[08:50] <tacos> why is it that some programs are listed in the synaptic and some aren't? is there some rule to be on there or something?
[08:51] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe: Ah cool. I'm just afraid that I'd need a better phone ^^. But it's interesting and cool. I'd want to be able to access the web anywhere I am, there were countless times I was in need of a internet connection.
[08:51] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, well, same goes for me
[08:51] <cutegirl41> hi
[08:52] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe : just curious, what phone are you using?
[08:52] <n2diy> tacos: yes, some repos are officially supported, and some aren't.
[08:52] <KenSentMe> brokenthorn, nokia e61
[08:52] <blah569> Does anyone know of a good Ubuntu emulator for Windows?  The majority of my stuff I do is Windows, but I really like Ubuntu.
[08:52] <neozen> O.o e61
[08:52] <faileas> blah: you can run ubuntu in Vmware
[08:52] <neozen> have heard good things about the e61i
[08:53] <Sonicadvance1> Oi, can anyone provide me with a link where it says Norton Anti-Virus hooks in to Window's Procedures? :D
[08:53] <flash42> tacos, for your first question about sudo editor, you can make a "shortcut" and put it onto your desktop, but it is lame
[08:53] <_mali_> hi, can anybody explain to me this pls http://openpaste.org/sk/2751/
[08:53] <blah569> How many gigs should I give it?
[08:53] <faileas> blah569: i usually give it a 8 gig, expanding image
[08:53] <erika14212> can some please help me
[08:53] <blah569> ok
[08:53] <blah569> Thanks
[08:54] <erika14212> please
[08:54] <brokenthorn> KenSentMe : xD
[08:54] <squarebottle> !ask | erika14212
[08:54] <ubotu> erika14212: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:54] <flash42> !please | erika14212
[08:54] <ubotu> erika14212: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[08:54] <flash42> ?
[08:54] <erika14212> how do u start
[08:54] <flash42> :)
[08:54] <erika14212> xubuntu
[08:54] <erika14212> i login
[08:54] <erika14212> then another command comes up
[08:54] <flash42> yeah for sure
[08:55] <faileas> what command?
[08:55] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[08:55] <flash42> you mean a program?:)
[08:55] <squarebottle> erika14212: At the log in screen, click "Sessions" and select XFCE. Then log in.
[08:55] <erika14212> type sessions
[08:56] <blah569> is the the VMWare player that I need?
[08:56] <squarebottle> erika14212: No. It should be something you can click.
[08:56] <blah569> I used VMWare a long time ago
[08:56] <blah569> just don't remember what I used
[08:56] <blah569> exacty
[08:56] <squarebottle> erika14212: This should be at the screen where you enter your username and password.
[08:56] <john--> hello everyone how is your night or morning
[08:56] <erika14212> no im not getting that
[08:56] <blah569> Morning, early morning
[08:56] <blah569> 12:56
[08:56] <erika14212> it ask me to logon
[08:57] <squarebottle> erika14212: You're not at the login screen right now.
[08:57] <teKnofreak> ericx, are you seeing a GUI login screen or a command line one ?
[08:57] <teKnofreak> err.. erika14212 &&
[08:57] <erika14212> command line one
[08:57] <blah569> [00:56]  blah569: is the the VMWare player that I need?
[08:57] <blah569> [00:56]  blah569: I used VMWare a long time ago
[08:57] <blah569> [00:56]  blah569: just don't remember what I used
[08:57] <john--> same here just an hour ahead of you blah569
[08:57] <blah569> Oops, sorry
[08:57] <teKnofreak> erika14212, have you logged in ? then type startx
[08:57] <blah569> But, can someone answer my question please?
[08:57] <n2diy> john--: Hi John, it is dark here, but they forcast  it will get light in the morning.
[08:57] <NForc3r> hey guys
[08:57] <erika14212> bad command
[08:57] <squarebottle> erika14212: How did you install your Ubuntu?
[08:57] <NForc3r> i cant intsll my nvidia 8800gts card
[08:58] <erika14212> network install
[08:58] <NForc3r> it keeps stuffing up
[08:58] <tacos> I just installed the irc the text based one, but how do I open it? I don't see a link to it anywhere
[08:58] <erika14212> i rebooted
[08:58] <erika14212> i created partion
[08:58] <NForc3r> ?
[08:58] <flash42>  bad command -> it means you run DOS?
[08:58] <flash42> :)
[08:58] <teKnofreak> blah569, you need either a VMware server or a player (then you need a vm image)
[08:58] <neozen> tacos: you remember what it was called right?
[08:58] <blah569> Okay
[08:58] <erika14212> it downloaded all trhe files
[08:58] <blah569> Thanks
[08:58] <neozen> tacos: run it from the terminal
[08:58] <blah569> Time to download the newest Ubuntu iso lol
[08:59] <erika14212> it said restart
[08:59] <neozen> tacos: or just press Alt+F2 and type the name of its executable there
[08:59] <flash42> tacos: it IS terminal based ("command line"):)
[08:59] <tacos> guess it would be too much to ask for them to make a damn icon for it lol =/
[08:59] <NForc3r> can someone help me
[08:59] <squarebottle> erika14212: Hoo hmm. Any particular reason why you didn't do a "regular" install?
[08:59] <tacos> where do programs normally install? sbin ?
[08:59] <erika14212> yes
[08:59] <teKnofreak> yes
[09:00] <tacos> also, in the synaptic installer, i want to isntall vlc player and I see vlc and vlc with no x support, i am guessing i want the regular vlc
[09:00] <squarebottle> erika14212: Okay. Well, I've never done a network install of Ubuntu before to be honest with you. Did you grab the server edition or something?
[09:00] <tacos> and what is the little ubuntu symbol next to the vlan package ?
[09:00] <NForc3r> helloo???
[09:00] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Helloo. :P
[09:00] <erika14212> it sad it was installed
[09:00] <NForc3r> thank you
[09:01] <teKnofreak> erika14212, did you install a server edition or a desktop edition ?
[09:01] <n2diy> tacos: the symbol means it has official support.
[09:01] <NForc3r> have u any idea how to install a nvidia 8800 driver for ubuntu
[09:01] <erika14212> desktop
[09:01] <teKnofreak> erika14212, the server edition doesn't get you a GUI login by default
[09:01] <KenSentMe> !nvidia
[09:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:01] <kRush> Hi, how comes free -m sees only 1003MB of RAM when there are actually 1024?
[09:01] <erika14212> hang on
[09:01] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Did you check it off in your restricted drivers manager?
[09:02] <n2diy> kRush: your computer counts in binary, and you count in decimal.
[09:02] <Rexor_Moon> holy crap, endgame: singularity is freaking hard
[09:02] <erika14212> i used unetbootin
[09:03] <erika14212> i used lubi
[09:03] <tacos> i didn't see any file in /sbin that started with irc
[09:03] <Vic1ous> hey can someone here help me
[09:03] <flash42> :))
[09:03] <tacos> any idea where I could find the program that installed and failed to make an icon?
[09:03] <teKnofreak> erika14212, where was your installer image ?
[09:03] <Vic1ous> i just installed ubuntu and i have no idea how to install my video driver
[09:04] <squarebottle> erika14212: Hmmmmmm. Well I'm just going to say what I think we're all thinking here: Life would be better if you downloaded a regular install CD and used that. :P
[09:04] <teKnofreak> tacos, lost and found ?
[09:04] <tacos> oh actually I installed irssi huh lol im dumb
[09:04] <flash42> :)
[09:04] <teKnofreak> tacos, ah
[09:04] <tacos> no wonder find -name 'irc' didn't get it hehe
[09:04] <Vic1ous> so can anyone help me out?
[09:05] <teKnofreak> !driver
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about driver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <Vic1ous> !driver
[09:05] <teKnofreak> !video
[09:05] <erika14212> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=198821
[09:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[09:05] <n2diy> Vic1ous: have you asked a question/
[09:05] <squarebottle> Vic1ous: Yes, we can help you install your graphics card driver.
[09:05] <neozen> kRush: add in the fact that..... some usually gets set aside for low-level buffers, video memory, and other assorted foo
[09:05] <erika14212> can some im me
[09:05] <dragon> erika14212: ask in the channel,
[09:05] <teKnofreak> ericx, ?
[09:05] <Raiders32> !screen
[09:05] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:06] <erika14212> i cant keep up with room
[09:06] <Vic1ous> n2diy, yea i was just wondering how to install a driver for 8800 gtx
[09:06] <squarebottle> Vic1ous: First off, open up your Restricted Drivers Manager and check off your graphics card.Have you done this?
[09:06] <kRush> hmm ok
[09:06] <teKnofreak> erika14212, we can keep with you, so no problem ask
[09:06] <tacos> ok i did find -name 'irssi' and it came up as /usr/bin/ircii and /usr/share/irssi and /usr/lib/irssi and a doc one.. out of those which would be the executable to run the program and how do you know?
[09:06] <Vic1ous> squarebottle,  no but i am right now
[09:06] <n2diy> Vic1ous: ok, sorry, I missed the question, good luck.
[09:06] <flash42> tacos
[09:06] <erika14212> thats wjere i downloaded
[09:06] <flash42> you just type irssi
[09:06] <teKnofreak> tacos, open a terminala nd type irssi
[09:06] <flash42> it is on the PATH
[09:06] <squarebottle> Vic1ous: Yup. It should be as easy as that. If not, then let me know.
[09:06] <tacos> how do you check the path
[09:07] <flash42> echo $PATH
[09:07] <sayanriju> tacos: echo $PATH
[09:07] <teKnofreak> tacos, /usr/bin/irssi <--- its there
[09:07] <tacos> thanks a bunch!
[09:07] <erika14212> i dont know
[09:07] <Vic1ous> squarebottle,  i unchecked it and something downloaded and installed
[09:07] <Vic1ous> squarebottle,  what do i do now
[09:08] <oasisfai> hi, all
[09:08] <tacos_ubuntu> w00t
[09:08] <squarebottle> Vic1ous: Great! When it says it's all done, then go ahead and close it all up and reboot, and life should be good. If not, then come back and let me know.
[09:08] <teKnofreak> erika14212, am afraid that you have installed a server version
[09:08] <erika14212> i can run set up
[09:08] <Vic1ous> ok
[09:08] <Vic1ous> squarebottle,  ok
[09:08] <squarebottle> erika14212: But that's not the end of the world!
[09:08] <NForc3r> ok
[09:08] <NForc3r> guys?
[09:09] <flash42> tacos: binaries does not go to sbin by deafult unless they are "dangerous"
[09:09] <NForc3r> i tryed to run the restricted driver thing
[09:09] <squarebottle> erika14212: Try "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[09:09] <teKnofreak> squarebottle, she has left
[09:09] <NForc3r> and i pressed the checkbox and then enable nvidia driver
[09:09] <tacos_ubuntu> guys it's me tacos
[09:09] <NForc3r> then nothing happend
[09:09] <squarebottle> teKnofreak: Well, I tried.
[09:09] <squarebottle> :P
[09:09] <tacos_ubuntu> coming to ya from irssi =]  thanks!
[09:09] <flash42> :D
[09:09] <teKnofreak> :P
[09:10] <oasisfai> who has scim experience in firefox32
[09:10] <NForc3r> any idea??
[09:10] <oasisfai> on edgy amd64
[09:10] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Yeah. Reboot. :P
[09:10] <NForc3r> will that work??
[09:10] <oasisfai> the scim doesn't work on my firefox
[09:10] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Yes, it should. If not, then come back here and poke me.
[09:10] <oasisfai> the scim doesn't work on my firefox32
[09:10] <f0rqu3> ubuntu beats XP in prettiness
[09:11] <kraut> moin
[09:11] <f0rqu3> and vista
[09:11] <NForc3r> ive gota reinstall if first and try
[09:11] <Bspec> beryl/compiz ftw
[09:11] <tacos_ubuntu> is there a way to have a window take up the WHOLE screen? as in no toolbars at all
[09:11] <NForc3r> i tried to install the drivers from nvidia and my computer crashed
[09:11] <f0rqu3> my life would be complete if they relesed 64bit flash player
[09:11] <flash42> hah?
[09:11] <flash42> f11
[09:11] <flash42> :)
[09:11] <oasisfai> right -> f1rqu3
[09:12] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Eh? I didn't see you leave the room even.
[09:12] <tacos_ubuntu> flash24: you are deh bomb
[09:12] <NForc3r> i will
[09:12] <NForc3r> hold on
[09:12] <dragon> f0rqu3: yeap,
[09:12] <NForc3r> no
[09:12] <dragon> f0rqu3: make it ;
[09:12] <NForc3r> wait
[09:12] <NForc3r> im on my windows partion
[09:12] <f0rqu3> I dont work at adobe
[09:12] <tacos_ubuntu> because of you I can have one of mydesktops be JUST irssi
[09:12] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Wait a minute.
[09:12] <NForc3r> ok
[09:12] <dragon> f0rqu3: don't need to be working for anything just started coding
[09:12] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Is your Ubuntu installation running on a vmware virtual machine or something?
[09:13] <NForc3r> no
[09:13] <weredragon> I can't get ubuntu to connect to my wireless network
[09:13] <NForc3r> a seperate HDD
[09:13] <flash42> it is not nerdy is it
[09:13] <f0rqu3> I think they made extreme 32 asm optimizations
[09:13] <tacos_ubuntu> see it's all coming together now
[09:13] <f0rqu3> 32 bit
[09:13] <tacos_ubuntu> just let that nerdity blow in yoru face a bit
[09:13] <NForc3r> quad core ftw
[09:13] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Oh. So your Ubuntu croaked on you, so you booted Windows to get help. Is *that* it?
[09:13] <NForc3r> yep
[09:14] <annibis> oh this is a long shot but, does anybody know of a terminal emulator that will talk with an IBM AS400?
[09:14] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Ahhhhh. How far does the boot process get when you try to boot Ubuntu?
[09:14] <blah569> I'm thinking of using Ubuntu, but I really use a lot of Windows programs, is there anyone that could convince me to use Ubuntu?  (So I'm not booting into Windows 99% of the time)
[09:14] <Vic1ous> squarebottle, hey it didn't work it booted to a black screen as it always does so i rebooted went to recovery mode and changed driver "nvidia" to driver "nv" in xorg.con to get it to boot again
[09:14] <TaFuQ> s.a. turkce bilen arkadas varmi ?
[09:14] <squarebottle> blah569: What do you do on your computer?
[09:14] <dragon> Vic1ous: downoad the nvidia drivers,
[09:14] <NForc3r> ok first time it booted up then after the ubuntu loading screen (just b4 the log on screen) it crashes then goes to terminal
[09:15] <blah569> PHP, C++, Flash, Photoshop, etc
[09:15] <NForc3r> so i tried installing the nvidia drivers off the website
[09:15] <oasisfai> who has experience on scim and firefox32
[09:15] <oasisfai> I need some help
[09:15] <f0rqu3> TaFuQ, :D
[09:15] <squarebottle> Vic1ous and dragon: The Restricted Drivers Manager should've made it install the drivers automatically, but... Have you tried using Envy?
[09:15] <NForc3r> then restarted and it got to the same place but didnt load terminal
[09:15] <Vic1ous> dragon, hey i would but i have no idea how to download them or install them
[09:15] <flash42> blah569: hm, flash is better in windows:)
[09:15] <blah569> ah
[09:15] <tacos_ubuntu> I have a long question for anyone who's listening it starts here
[09:15] <Vic1ous> squarebottle,  i don't know what envy is
[09:15] <squarebottle> blah569 and flash42: that's debatable.
[09:16] <Vic1ous> squarebottle,  first hour ever usin linux lol
[09:16] <blah569> Anyone else have some input?
[09:16] <NForc3r> i tried the Restricted Drivers and they wouldnt allow me to check them till i got g++ and some other things (by running the nvidia installer somehow)
[09:16] <tacos_ubuntu> in the 4 little icons that show the 4 desktops, i have a little computer icon on the fourth one, apparently showing the irssi that I'm running
[09:16] <x80h> someone help me with setting up RAID
[09:16] <NForc3r> then i checked it and it allowed me to download and install them and on reboot it didnt work
[09:16] <cmo-0> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 7.04 and i want to reinstall a new fresh copy on my pc. Right now i have a resonable setup, and i want to duplicate on the new installation. Is there any method  for grapping the list of installed packages (via apt-get or SPM) so it will be fed after installing the base ubuntu setup to reflect my current setup?
[09:17] <tacos_ubuntu> when I'm on desktop 4 I see the computer icon, and i see it when im on desktop #3, but not on #1 or 2,, why?
[09:17] <NForc3r> should i use update manager b4 i use the Restricted Drivers?
[09:17] <flash42> blah569: Photoshop is for windows, if you are a pro, you have no alternatives in the linux world yet
[09:17] <squarebottle> blah569: Well, if you're doing programming and that kind of thing, I think that Windows is... well, it's expensive to program on linux, ya know?
[09:17] <squarebottle> NForc3r: Wouldn't hurt, that's for sure. :D
[09:17] <NForc3r> ok
[09:17] <x80h> someone help me with setting up RAID on edgy
[09:17] <squarebottle> blah569: er
[09:17] <blah569> Hmmm, okay
[09:17] <NForc3r> ill be back within an hour ;d
[09:17] <NForc3r> cya
[09:17] <squarebottle> blah569: on windows*
[09:17] <squarebottle> lol
[09:17] <blah569> lol
[09:18] <Gluon> hi
[09:18] <n2diy> tacos_ubuntu: sounds like you found a bug, report it.
[09:18] <tacos_ubuntu> n2diy: how can I do that?
[09:18] <blah569> I just don't like the default internet text on Ubuntu, I like the Windows one better.
[09:18] <n2diy> ! bugs | tacos_ubuntu
[09:18] <ubotu> tacos_ubuntu: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:18] <squarebottle> blah569: You can get some freebie things to write in, but the "professional" tools on Windows are expensive and.. well, the fact of the matter is that there's a reason why your computer science department professor uses Linux. :P
[09:18] <x80h> help needed with setting up RAID on edgy
[09:18] <flash42> blah569: you can install windows fonts
[09:18] <Roy_M> Hi, I am booting into ubuntu server with grub prompt and I have to include "acpi=off" in the list of boot parameters. Does anyone know how and where I can save this information so that I dont have to type it every time?
[09:19] <Gluon> after I tried to upgrade to feisty 7.04 my system won't boot it says: modprobe FATAL: module raid 456 not found
[09:19] <tacos_ubuntu> !thanks
[09:19] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:19] <Gluon> I don't know what to do
[09:19] <Gluon> I never had raid
[09:19] <x80h> well i have 2 hdds and need to set up either raid or lvm
[09:20] <x_> hello everybody ... i got some problem with SOUND ... i had sound but 2day i haven't sound in startup and system ... what is problem ?! .... i checked all but can't find the problem ... i using Creative Audiogy za plotonium pro
[09:20] <squarebottle> Roy_M: Honestly, I'd ask that in #grub
[09:20] <DisMember> anyone got a CZ dedicated server running un ubu?
[09:20] <blah569> Oh that reminds me
[09:20] <Roy_M> squarebottle: thanks :)
[09:20] <flash42> Roy_M: grub.conf
[09:20] <dhanza> 0
[09:20] <blah569> Wait, Nervermind.
[09:21] <Gluon> is there a way I can tell my system I don't have raid?
[09:21] <DisMember> it will be in ur BIOS
[09:21] <DisMember> Hellooooooooo?
[09:21] <sayanriju> Roy_M:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:21] <Gluon> I also got: mdadm: no devices listed in conf file were found
[09:21] <flash42> hm
[09:21] <flash42> oldone:)
[09:21] <squarebottle> flash42: I'd still probably go to #grub just in case there's anything special, you know? Let the grub experts be the grub experts, I say. Of course, I'm speaking for myself when I say that I'm not a grub expert. heh
[09:21] <x80h> well i cant setup raid
[09:22] <x80h> i got the alternate cd
[09:22] <f0rqu3> grub is just a little boot loader >_>
[09:22] <tacos_ubuntu> n2diy: the bug was that it disapears or that it shows up?
[09:22] <x_> hi .... i need help ....i got some problem with SOUND ... i had sound but 2day i haven't sound in startup and system ... what is problem ?! .... i checked all but can't find the problem ... i using Creative Audiogy zs plotonium pro
[09:22] <DisMember> anyone play CZ?
[09:22] <x80h> can system boot if /boot is in raid device ?
[09:23] <dragon> x80h: of course,
[09:23] <Vic1ous> n2diy,  hey sorry to bother you but do you have any idea how to install nvidia drivers for 8800 gtx
[09:23] <n2diy> tacos_ubuntu: That's up to you, it's your bug! :)
[09:23] <tacos_ubuntu> n2diy: doesn't it do that on your computer?
[09:23] <DisMember> i cant find a decent up to date howto on condition zero dedictaed server
[09:23] <squarebottle>  f0rqu3: Blehg. I hate dealing with grub though. There's just something about it that... Meh. When I first starting using Linux, grub was what gave me trouble, and the documentation isn't... good/existant.
[09:23] <blah569> People always say Linux is better for programming.  Could someone care to explain?  I can do all my programming on Windows without a problem :P.
[09:23] <DisMember> nvidia drivers should be listed under restricted drivers Vic
[09:24] <squarebottle>  f0rqu3: Prefer it to lilo, but I just don't really like to mess with it.
[09:24] <x80h> coz the api and shit is really screwed up in windows
[09:24] <flash42> blah569: people say various things
[09:24] <n2diy> tacos_ubuntu: I don't play with the other panels.
[09:24] <f0rqu3> blah569, target OS is important
[09:24] <blah569> Target OS?
[09:24] <DisMember> ok anyone know an irc channel that might help me set up my Dedictaed linux Condition Zero server on Ubu?
[09:24] <Vic1ous> DisMember,  i have enabled them but when my pc came back up it wouldnt boot so i loaded into recovery and edited xorg.conf with driver "nv" to get it to work
[09:24] <arooni> folks trying to install ubuntu.... on a thinkpad t61.... i can boot up live cd... but graphics are messed up (intel x3100 card)..... and i already used safe graphics mode... any other ideas?
[09:24] <f0rqu3> it doesnt make sense to build a windows application on linux
[09:24] <f0rqu3> vice versa
[09:25] <flash42> on a unix platform c and therefor c++ comes naturally
[09:25] <x80h> of course not ..
[09:25] <x80h> why wud someone want to build win apps on linux =))
[09:25] <sauvin> f0rqu3, sure it does.
[09:25] <DisMember> Vic1ous: just run the cserver-reconfigure... type this and follow the prompts i am running a 6600
[09:26] <squarebottle> blah569: I'm actually a graphic artist myself, but I work with programmers a good bit. I think that they find that their code compiles differently (as in, more efficiently), and they seem to have more tools and support. Not only do they seem to have more tools, but they prefer them, and they're free.
[09:26] <n2diy> Viclous, sorry, no I don't maybe #ubuntu-effects could help you?
[09:26] <Vic1ous> DisMember, do that from a terminal ?
[09:26] <DisMember> Vic1ous: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[09:26] <DisMember> then reboot
[09:26] <xtknight> try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ^
[09:26] <squarebottle> blah569: And again, I wouldn't look past the fact that there's more community with everything you do in linux, so if you ever want to ask a question about how to do stuff, there's quite possibly a few bazillion IRC rooms with a few bazillion people who really want to help.
[09:27] <DisMember> isnt that what i said lol
[09:27] <f0rqu3> I would use visual studio for developing win32 apps
[09:27] <Vic1ous> DisMember,  said it wasnt installed
[09:27] <DisMember> ahh missed the xorg sorry
[09:27] <x_> hi .... i need help ....i got some problem with SOUND ... i had sound but 2day i haven't sound in startup and system ... what is problem ?! .... i checked all but can't find the problem ... i using Creative Audiogy zs plotonium pro
[09:27] <f0rqu3> portable apps are another story
[09:27] <fiction> How do i view the equivalent of talk maneger in windows? (how much ram and cpu usage linux is being used)
[09:27] <fiction> and by talk i mean tsk
[09:27] <DisMember> copy what xtknightsaid
[09:27] <fiction> task
[09:28] <x80h> use "top" command from terminal
[09:28] <f0rqu3> system -> admin -> system mon
[09:28] <squarebottle> And developing stuff that's platform neutral is nice. Never underestimate the value of a slick java program. I don't care what anybody says about java being a bit bloated. Modern machines being as powerful as they are, it's not really an issue if you ask me.
[09:28] <DisMember> would be nice if linux commands auto completed like in terminal lol
[09:28] <x80h> it does
[09:28] <Vic1ous> ok do i need nv or nvidia?
[09:28] <x80h> u gotta press tab
[09:28] <DisMember> nvidia
[09:28] <faileas> bloated is relative ;)
[09:28] <DisMember> thats wot i used
[09:29] <Vic1ous> identifier should be 8800 GTX ?
[09:29] <DisMember> thats just a handle.. it dun really matter
[09:29] <fiction> Vic1ous, trying to install a driver?
[09:29] <fiction> i have that same card ;)
[09:29] <DisMember> i used defaults personally lol coz i am lazy
[09:29] <andy_> hallo
[09:29] <Vic1ous> yes i am my first time i dont wanna screw it up lol
[09:30] <fiction> Vic1ous, i can help. have that same card as you
[09:30] <Vic1ous> fiction,  can i pm you ?
[09:30] <fiction> yes
[09:30] <DisMember> anyone help me with a Condition Zero server?
[09:30] <andy_> can talk indonesia
[09:30] <xtknight> !in | andy_
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <xtknight> !id | andy_
[09:30] <ubotu> andy_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[09:30] <aeroth> im new to ubuntu  and in my opinion it beats windows in the face
[09:30] <andy_> terima kasih..
[09:31] <fiction> How can i view cpu and ram usage?
[09:31] <Vic1ous> fiction,  i pmed you do you see it?
[09:31] <fiction> Vic1ous, nope
[09:31] <Roy_M> sayanriju: I cannot edit files from the grub prompt so I cannot edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:31] <f0rqu3> Vic1ous, are you registerred?
[09:31] <DisMember> ak well bye guys..
[09:31] <Vic1ous> fiction,  no
[09:31] <fiction> Vic1ous, let me pm you
[09:31] <fiction> vi
[09:31] <andy_> gimana install yahoo messenger?
[09:31] <f0rqu3> /register password
[09:32] <fiction> Vic1ous, now i PMed you. see it?
[09:32] <Vic1ous> fiction,  nope
[09:32] <fiction> Vic1ous, youre not registered
[09:32] <Vic1ous> fiction, how do i register
[09:32] <f0rqu3> /register password
[09:32] <fiction> what f0rqu3 said
[09:32] <Vic1ous> i did that
[09:32] <andy_> gimana ?
[09:32] <fiction> now do this
[09:32] <flash42> Sama-sama
[09:32] <flash42> hihi
[09:32] <andy_> mas..
[09:32] <fiction>  (slash)msg nickserv identify yourpassword
[09:33] <andy_> caranya..
[09:33] <fiction> replace (slash) with /
[09:33] <x_> have we some SYSTEM RESTOR option on linux ?!
[09:33] <flash42> andy_: gaim
[09:33] <f0rqu3> Vic1ous, your nick is registered by someone else
[09:33] <f0rqu3> change your nick and register
[09:33] <Vic1ous> well how do i log in if its me
[09:33] <Vic1ous> lol
[09:33] <andy_> gaim kamera gak bisa..
[09:33] <Vic1ous> i might have regged here before
[09:34] <fiction> Vic1ous,  (slash)msg nickserv identify yourpassword
[09:34] <x_> how i can use SYSTEM RESTOR ?!
[09:34] <fiction> Replace (slash) with / of course
[09:34] <f0rqu3> /ns id password
[09:34] <Vic1ous> hah
[09:34] <Vic1ous> it was me
[09:34] <f0rqu3> yes
[09:34] <Vic1ous> ok now what do i do
[09:34] <f0rqu3> lol
[09:34] <Vic1ous> =p
[09:34] <fiction> did you sign in then?
[09:34] <fiction> yes you did. i see your pm
[09:35] <Vic1ous> yay
[09:35] <x_> x! system restor
[09:35] <flash42> andy_: http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/
[09:35] <fiction> how do i know if this name is registered or not?
[09:35] <fiction> kinda wanna register it
[09:36] <Vic1ous> use fict1on =p
[09:36] <flash42> hahaha
[09:36] <E-mu> Anyone good with booting Ubuntu from USB flash? Mostly the linuxrc script question. Trying to figure out how to slow it down so it can read the image file, as in knoppix 5.1.1. Allowing slow USB devices some more time to register
[09:36] <f0rqu3>  /ns info fiction
[09:36] <x_> ! system restor |x
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system restor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <fiction> thanks f0rqu3 . but it is =/
[09:36] <Vic1ous> rofl i registered this name 2 years ago
[09:36] <fiction> Vic1ous, look @ your pms
[09:37] <Vic1ous> fiction,  i dont see any from you
[09:37] <flash42> x_: what to restore?
[09:37] <fiction> whtaaat
[09:37] <f0rqu3> fiction, if you like that nick you can ask a freenode staff to drop its registraition
[09:37] <f0rqu3> it is expired
[09:37] <Frogzoo> stupid question - do laptops have piezo-electric beepers you can use as an alert instead of the speakers ?
[09:37] <fiction> f0rqu3, what are the chances of them doing that?
[09:38] <f0rqu3> 100%
[09:38] <Vic1ous> wow
[09:38] <Vic1ous> lol
[09:38] <Frogzoo> fiction: if the nick's a couple years old, they're happy to do it
[09:38] <fiction> it hasnt logged on in 44 weeks
[09:38] <f0rqu3> nicks expire after 60 days, if you dont login
[09:38] <fiction> 44 weeks > 60 days though
[09:38] <Vic1ous> mine lasted 2 years lol
[09:39] <Frogzoo> 44weeks is kinda on the cusp imo - no harm in asking though
[09:39] <fiction> f0rqu3, how do i figure out who is staff or not?
[09:39] <mattwj2005> hi everyone
[09:39] <f0rqu3> /stats p
[09:39] <mattwj2005> I need your help
[09:39] <Frogzoo> fiction: reread your loging screen
[09:39] <f0rqu3> but noone
[09:39] <fiction> Frogzoo, okies
[09:40] <fiction> Vic1ous, i need to help you
[09:40] <mattwj2005> a program for connecting to a AS/400 using Ubuntu linux?
[09:40] <fiction> Vic1ous, but since PM isn't working, itll be thrugh here.
[09:40] <Vic1ous> fiction,  thats kewl
[09:40] <mattwj2005> this isn't for me
[09:40] <fiction> Vic1ous, put the installation file you downloaded from nvidia on your desktop
[09:40] <f0rqu3> In case there is no available staff member in /stats p , use /who freenode/staff/* or join the channel #freenode using /join #freenode
[09:40] <annibis> ?
[09:40] <Frogzoo> mattwj2005: telnet?
[09:40] <mattwj2005> annibis is the guy asking :)
[09:40] <Vic1ous> fiction,  i'm behind then cause i havent downloaded any file lol
[09:40] <Frogzoo> mattwj2005: I take it you've got tcp/ip?
[09:40] <fiction> f0rqu3, thanks
[09:41] <fiction> Vic1ous, then go to www.nvidia.com and download
[09:41] <mattwj2005> serial through an usb adapter
[09:41] <mattwj2005> the laptop doesn't have a regular serial adapter
[09:41] <fiction> Anyone here pro with gconf ?
[09:41] <Frogzoo> !anyone
[09:41] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:41] <Vic1ous> fiction,  ok downloaded
[09:41] <flash42> :D
[09:42] <fiction> Vic1ous, impossible. its over 30mb
[09:42] <fiction> you couldnt have downloaded that fast
[09:42] <flash42> why not?
[09:42] <Vic1ous> fiction,  11 megs actualy
[09:42] <mattwj2005> we are looking for a program name :)
[09:42] <fiction> oh wow
[09:42] <fiction> alright just to check, what is it called?
[09:42] <Frogzoo> mattwj2005: annibis what's the issue?
[09:42] <Vic1ous> fiction, NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-100.14.11-pkg2.run
[09:43] <mattwj2005> we need an AS/400 compatible terminal emulator for Ubuntu
[09:43] <annibis> I need terminal emulator for an AS400
[09:43] <fiction> Vic1ous, alright. put it on yoru desktop, and rename it to nv.run
[09:43] <mattwj2005> please
[09:43] <Vic1ous> fiction,  done
[09:43] <fiction> Now go to System > Administration > Services
[09:44] <Frogzoo> mattwj2005: ? "c3270 - Curses program for telnet sessions to IBM mainframes"
[09:44] <Vic1ous> fiction,  said i'm not allowed to access administration
[09:44] <mattwj2005> does that help annibis?
[09:44] <Frogzoo> annibis: ? "c3270 - Curses program for telnet sessions to IBM mainframes"
[09:44] <f0rqu3> Vic1ous, it doesnt ask for a password?
[09:44] <annibis> looking it up, it sounds right though
[09:44] <Deffy|Xfce> What's the command to reload GDM, I don't get the log out or shut down screens when I tell the machine to do so
[09:45] <Vic1ous> nope
[09:45] <fiction> crap
[09:45] <f0rqu3> strange
[09:45] <fiction> Well an alternative would be to boot linux without it loading the X server
[09:45] <Frogzoo> annibis: also tn5250 - 5250 telnet emulator for accessing an IBM iSeries (AS/400) & x3270 - X11 program for telnet sessions to IBM mainframes
[09:45] <fiction> cause to install it you cant have X running
[09:46] <mattwj2005> yeah I know nothing of AS/400s I am just the router/switch guy :P
[09:46] <Vic1ous> fiction,  ok if i do it that way what do i do after i'm in recovery mode
[09:46] <annibis> yes thankyou frogzoo and mattwj2005
[09:46] <mattwj2005> anytime....we aim to please :D
[09:46] <fiction> Vic1ous, if what you said works. then you will navigate to your ~/Desktop/
[09:46] <Frogzoo> annibis: aight, have fun
[09:47] <fiction> Vic1ous, and type "sudo sh nv.run"
[09:47] <annibis> will do
[09:47] <Vic1ous> fiction,  i have no clue how to navigate to my dekstop lol
[09:47] <fiction> Vic1ous, and it will install for you.
[09:47] <fiction> Vic1ous, when you run linux without the X server, there will be no GUI
[09:47] <fiction> just blackscreen with text
[09:47] <Vic1ous> ok
[09:47] <fiction> you dont know how to get to desktop from there?
[09:47] <Vic1ous> no clue
[09:47] <fiction> ok open a terminal
[09:48] <Vic1ous> ok
[09:48] <fiction> type pwd
[09:48] <x_> ! systemrestor | x
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about systemrestor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <x_> hi .... i need help ....i got some problem with SOUND ... i had sound but 2day i haven't sound in startup and system ... what is problem ?! .... i checked all but can't find the problem ... i using Creative Audiogy zs plotonium pro
[09:48] <Vic1ous> it said /root
[09:48] <flash42> x_: what are you talkin bout?
[09:48] <x_> sound card
[09:48] <fiction> youre in as root? it should say /home/yourlogin
[09:48] <fiction> anyways. type cd Desktop
[09:49] <Vic1ous> ok
[09:49] <fiction> now type ls
[09:49] <fiction> it should show nv.run
[09:49] <Vic1ous> nope
[09:49] <Vic1ous> just automatix
[09:49] <Vic1ous> lol
[09:49] <Vic1ous> or
[09:49] <Vic1ous> wait
[09:49] <Vic1ous> nm i see it
[09:49] <Vic1ous> sry i'm dumb
[09:49] <Vic1ous> lol
[09:49] <x_> that SUCKED , 1025 users online and nobody can help me
[09:49] <Vic1ous> so then i just type nv.run
[09:50] <fiction> Ok so thats what youll have to do
[09:50] <fiction> no
[09:50] <xtknight> !automatix | sorry, i had to
[09:50] <ubotu> sorry, i had to: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:50] <fiction> you type sudo sh nv.run, and it will ask for your password, type it. and it will begin installation
[09:51] <f0rqu3> I thought you can use restricted drivers setup
[09:51] <f0rqu3> to setup nvidia
[09:51] <fiction> That way didnt work for me
[09:51] <fiction> So i did the manual way
[09:51] <x_> mojtaba_   hi ...where r u from ?! turkey ?! iran ?! iraq ?!
[09:51] <Vic1ous> ok so i log into recovery mode and do this stuff?
[09:52] <fiction> Vic1ous, yea. Can you open synaptic?
[09:52] <fiction> if you can, then you should be able to go to Services, wtf
[09:52] <Vic1ous> fiction,  what is synaptic
[09:52] <f0rqu3> >_>
[09:52] <fiction> Vic1ous, how you install stuff in ubuntu pretty much
[09:52] <netyire> anyone know to obtain a new ip address (dhcp)?
[09:52] <Vic1ous> fiction,  oh the package manager yea i can run that
[09:52] <flash42> x_: the sound went out after reboot?
[09:52] <f0rqu3> ubuntu has synaptic. you really dont need automatix
[09:53] <x_> flash42     what u mean ?!
[09:53] <fiction> Vic1ous, ok. where sypantic is, a few items above, it says Services. you sure it wont let you open that?
[09:53] <Vic1ous> yea
[09:53] <fiction> Alright Vic1ous
[09:53] <x_> mojtaba_ irooni hasti ?!
[09:53] <f0rqu3> you are not a superuser?
[09:53] <fiction> Vic1ous, then go try what i just told you =z good lick
[09:53] <fiction> luck*
[09:53] <Vic1ous> ok thx fiction
[09:53] <fiction> comeback
[09:54] <fiction> hopefully youll be able to
[09:54] <Vic1ous> f0rqu3 how do i make myself a super user lol
[09:54] <Vic1ous> i just installed ubuntu
[09:54] <f0rqu3> Vic1ous, try "sudo synaptic"
[09:54] <f0rqu3> from a terminal
[09:54] <Vic1ous> worked
[09:54] <fiction> now go try and open services
[09:54] <flash42> x_: i asked sound went wrong after you did something?
[09:54] <netyire> is it possible to renew an ip address?
[09:54] <Vic1ous> nope same thing
[09:54] <flash42> dhcp?
[09:54] <fiction> alright forget it then
[09:54] <netyire> yup :D
[09:55] <fiction> go try the method i told you
[09:55] <Vic1ous> ok ill be back
[09:55] <flash42>  sudo dhclient
[09:55] <faileas> qn 3
[09:55] <fiction> hopefully
[09:55] <netyire> dhclient, no arguments?
[09:55] <fiction> How can i change themes with gconf?
[09:55] <fiction> !gconf
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <x_> flash42 ... don't remember , don't think so .... just i crashed and after that i haven't sound
[09:55] <f0rqu3> sudo services-admin
[09:56] <f0rqu3> but dunno what services have to do with it
[09:56] <fiction> f0rqu3, he left =/
[09:56] <rausb0> !info dvb-utils
[09:56] <ubotu> dvb-utils: Viewer programs for DVB cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 101 kB, installed size 1308 kB
[09:56] <rbrito> Hi all.
[09:57] <Vic1ous> fiction,  it told me i appear to be running in level 1 and i need to run telnet3?
[09:57] <f0rqu3> !info gdm > f0rqu3
[09:57] <fiction> ok Vic1ous , f0rqu3 found a way
[09:57] <rbrito> I'm having a problem getting gutsy booting on a PowerPC.
[09:57] <flash42> dhclient -r
[09:57] <rbrito> Is there anybody else with the same problem?
[09:57] <fiction> type sudo services-admin
[09:57] <CheeseGardener> Could someone give me a hand trying to change some settings for the "Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG" network card?  I would appreciate it if you could IM me.
[09:57] <flash42> x_: have you checked alsamixer?
[09:57] <CheeseGardener> Since it will be an involved process...
[09:58] <Vic1ous> fiction,  didn't work
[09:58] <x_> flash42... ja i did ... looks correct
[09:58] <fiction> in terminal
[09:58] <fiction> services window should open
[09:58] <netyire> flash42: thanks!
[09:58] <flash42> x_ no mutes?
[09:58] <fiction> Vic1ous, and recovery mode didnt work?
[09:58] <x_> flash42 .... nope ... i haven't sound in startup 2
[09:58] <Vic1ous> fiction,  nope said i was running in level 1
[09:58] <rbrito> I am not familiar with the development process of Ubuntu (but I am on the New Maintainers queue of Debian) and I would like very much to have Ubuntu working on PowerPC.
[09:59] <fiction> give me one sec
[09:59] <Vic1ous> f0rqu3,  how can i make myself a superuser so i dont have to g through this
[09:59] <rbrito> Can anybody tell me who should I contact so that PowerPC is not a port, but an official, supported platform?
[09:59] <f0rqu3> sudo services-admin
[09:59] <f0rqu3> sudo users-admin
[10:00] <Vic1ous> gtk warning cannot open display
[10:00] <flash42> x_ i mean in alsamixer there is no device muted
[10:00] <flash42> am i right?
[10:00] <f0rqu3> hmm strange
[10:00] <x_> flash42  let me c again ... 1 min plz
[10:00] <rausb0> rbrito: this is not a developer channel. you might ask in #ubuntu-devel (or what was it called?)
[10:00] <_nixMan> anyone setup a software raid 1 with ubuntu 7 durng setup and can help me?
[10:01] <x_> flash42 .... u mean in sound preferences , right ?!
[10:01] <flash42> yeah?
[10:01] <flash42> type alsamixer in a terminal window
[10:02] <fiction> Vic1ous,
[10:02] <Vic1ous> fiction,  yes?
[10:02] <squarebottle> Night, folks.
[10:02] <flash42> mornin dude
[10:02] <flash42> hehe
[10:02] <f0rqu3> are you using feisty?
[10:02] <x_> flash42 ... everything looks OK
[10:02] <Vic1ous> f0rqu3,  yes
[10:02] <linux_user400354> what in the world???? im using cups for printing. its printing in red ink instead of black from my open office writer document. i tried changing the printing settings to greyscale black cartridge and it still does the same thing
[10:02] <fiction> Vic1ous, press alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus /etc/inittab
[10:03] <flash42> no MM in the bottom of the bars?:)
[10:03] <Ketamine> hey guys how do i change my name on Gaim?
[10:03] <f0rqu3> what is gaim :D
[10:03] <Vic1ous> fiction,  ok then i do the rest of the stuff?
[10:04] <fiction> Vic1ous, do you see a line like this :id:5:innitdefault ?
[10:04] <Ketamine> Gaim internet messenger?
[10:04] <dooglus> Ketamine: which network?
[10:04] <f0rqu3> pidgin :)
[10:04] <flash42> linux_user400354: hmm, you have checked the cartridges i presume
[10:04] <Ketamine> dooglus msn
[10:04] <Vic1ous> fiction,  it just closes
[10:04] <fiction> Vic1ous, what do you mean?
[10:05] <flash42> linux_user400354: what does it do, when you swap the ink cartridges:)?
[10:05] <Sonicadvance1> A question, I've been wondering something recently. I'm making a deb file. and when I run it, the "install package" function doesn't change to a uninstall package and also. I don't know how to make it add a link to my program in the menu bar. how do you fix these two problems of mine?
[10:05] <Vic1ous> fiction,  i type gksudo /etc/inittab and click run and it closes
[10:05] <linux_user400354> flash42: yes, it works fine in windows, and i replaced the black ink cartridge today
[10:05] <dooglus> Ketamine: use 'set friendly name'
[10:05] <WeeJeWel> what is the session executable in gnome?
[10:05] <flash42> type of the printer?
[10:06] <dooglus> Ketamine: from the accounts menu, select the msn account, then "set friendly name"
[10:06] <f0rqu3>  "gksudo nautilus /etc/inittab"
[10:06] <f0rqu3> what he said
[10:06] <Vic1ous> oh
[10:06] <Vic1ous> lol
[10:06] <dooglus> Ketamine: I'm using pidgin, but I expect it's much the same in Gaim
[10:06] <fiction> f0rqu3, i just looked, i dont have inittab either =/
[10:06] <Ketamine> gotcha
[10:06] <Ketamine> thank you.
[10:06] <Ketamine> :)
[10:06] <Vic1ous> couldn't find inittab
[10:06] <Ketamine> another question is irssi better or xchat?
[10:06] <dooglus> Vic1ous: ubuntu doesn't use inittab any more
[10:07] <fiction> dooglus, what does it you? do you know?
[10:07] <secion8> any suggestions for a good PHP5 IDE w/ MySQl support?
[10:07] <Ketamine> i download music from fdcc and xchat ignore the dcc's chat as a flood.
[10:07] <fiction> Ketamine, no.
[10:07] <rausb0> Ketamine: depends on your personal taste. i prefer irssi.
[10:07] <dooglus> Ketamine: irssi is a console app, and there are 2 xchats.  I prefer irssi personally
[10:07] <Ketamine> how can i install irssi?
[10:07] <mattwj2005> !gnome
[10:07] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[10:07] <fiction> maybe we should all exchange irssi themes =] 
[10:07] <rausb0> fiction: wrong. none of them is "better". there is just personal preference.
[10:08] <fiction> rausb0, by better i meant ease of use
[10:08] <f0rqu3> !irssi > f0rqu3
[10:08] <flash42> linux_user400354: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[10:08] <fiction> rausb0, by better i meant ease of use
[10:08] <fiction> wait
[10:08] <x_> flash42 ... how i can restore sound device ?!
[10:08] <fiction> what does ubuntu use instead of inittab?
[10:08] <dooglus> fiction: it uses upstart now
[10:09] <x_> !system restore | x
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <fiction> dooglus, is it a file?
[10:09] <rausb0> fiction: okay, it takes some time to get into irssi. but after that, it *is* more user friendly than xchat.
[10:09] <f0rqu3> lol
[10:09] <mattwj2005> ubotu rocks :)
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rocks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <f0rqu3> ubotu, dance
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <rausb0> fiction: ubuntu does not use sysV init anymore. it uses upstart as an init replacement.
[10:10] <fiction> rausb0, yes. but it can be annoying when your terminal is transparent and you cant read some of the letter cause of the colors. granted you can change that. but if you change backgrounds, youll have to do it again.
[10:10] <x_> ubotu sound problrm
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound problrm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <flash42> x_: alsactl restore
[10:10] <x_> flash42  how i can do it ?!
[10:10] <fiction> rausb0, i am trying to start ubuntu without X. do you know how?
[10:10] <f0rqu3> /msg ubotu subject
[10:10] <mattwj2005> !women
[10:10] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[10:10] <mattwj2005> :P
[10:11] <rausb0> fiction: remove the S??gdm symlink from the /etc/rcX.d/ directory. (where X is the default runlevel)
[10:11] <fiction> Vic1ous, you reading this also?
[10:11] <fiction> rausb0, thanks.
[10:11] <Vic1ous> fiction,  trying llol
[10:11] <mikubuntu> hallo.  anybody know how to get to bios in an emachines etower 333k pc with a *spacious* 3.2 gb harddrive and 32 ram?
[10:11] <x_> flash42 should i write in terminal ?!
[10:11] <Ketamine> brb.
[10:11] <flash42> x_ like "sudo alsactl restore"
[10:11] <flash42> it restore the mixer settings
[10:11] <fiction> Vic1ous, it said youre running level 3, correct?
[10:12] <x_> flash42 ... thanks friend ... gonna check it
[10:12] <Vic1ous> fiction,  no level 1 lol
[10:12] <f0rqu3> >_>
[10:12] <secion8> /leave
[10:12] <fiction> rausb0, all those seem to be shortcut. you sure thatll work?
[10:12] <f0rqu3> that is why you cant do stuff
[10:12] <x_> flash42  command didn't worked   r u sure is that right command ?1
[10:13] <Vic1ous> f0rqu3,  how do i go to lvl 3?
[10:13] <f0rqu3> how do you connect to irc at level 1?
[10:13] <Vic1ous> f0rqu3,  i'm so confused lol
[10:13] <f0rqu3> init 3
[10:13] <thoreauputic> init 3 probably won't do what you expect :)
[10:13] <Vic1ous> f0rqu3, how can i check what init i'm in just to make sre
[10:13] <rausb0> fiction: shortcut for what? i dont know what you mean
[10:14] <TheimonAway> nick TheimonCoffee
[10:14] <fiction> rausb0, yea, nevermind. i thought you mean to delete a file inside rcX folder
[10:14] <flash42> hm
[10:14] <fiction> Vic1ous, open your terminal
[10:14] <Vic1ous> ok
[10:14] <scarface> Whats  up
[10:14] <rausb0> fiction: a symlink is not a regular file
[10:15] <mikubuntu> i have searched everywhere i could think, and tried all the f keys but maybe i din't hit tthe right one at the right time or something
[10:15] <flash42> x_: what did it do?
[10:15] <thoreauputic> Vic1ous: If you want to get out of X, use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ( don't try it now though !)
[10:15] <x_> flash42  nothing
[10:15] <fiction> rausb0, right. and i thought it was
[10:15] <FuLio> Hi, i need help with my drivers.!!! please
[10:15] <FuLio> Hi, i need help with my drivers.!!! please
[10:15] <fiction> Vic1ous, open terminal and type sudo ps -x
[10:15] <scarface> Fulio let me know
[10:15] <scarface> what do you need
[10:16] <Vic1ous> ok did
[10:16] <FuLio> im not able to enable deskttop effects
[10:16] <fiction> Vic1ous, do you see on top, the first process should be x  manager
[10:16] <FuLio> it says
[10:16] <fiction> Vic1ous, x-session-manager
[10:16] <FuLio> desktop effects could not be be enable
[10:16] <Vic1ous> its in the middle but i see it
[10:16] <dooglus> fiction: did you find an answer?
[10:17] <fiction> Vic1ous, ok. before we go on i forgot to tell you this, to comeback to x, youll type 'startx' after you install
[10:17] <Frogzoo> FuLio: glxinfo |grep direct
[10:17] <fiction> dooglus, i think so, gonna try now
[10:17] <Vic1ous> ok
[10:17] <scarface> 1- go to System 2-Preferences 3- Desktop Effects
[10:17] <fiction> Vic1ous, ok, now where it says x-session-manager, to the left, theres a column called PID
[10:17] <fiction> find the PID for x-session-manager
[10:17] <dooglus> fiction: it looks like the files in /etc/event.d/ are the key
[10:18] <Vic1ous> 5395
[10:18] <fiction> dooglus, alright. if this method doesnt work, then ill look there next. i
[10:18] <fiction> Vic1ous, now type kill -9 5395
[10:19] <Vic1ous> operation not permitted
[10:19] <TheimonAway> sudo
[10:19] <_nixMan> is it possible to setup my system as a software raid 1 without reformatting and reinstalling everything?
[10:19] <TheimonAway> in front of it
[10:19] <fiction> Vic1ous, now type sudo kill -9 5395
[10:19] <fiction> guess it worked
[10:19] <TheimonAway> it worked indeed
[10:19] <fiction> lol
[10:19] <fiction> dooglus, thanks for the alternative help.
[10:19] <FuLio> i aslo have problems with the X server/
[10:19] <f0rqu3> fiction, :O
[10:19] <Frogzoo> FuLio: you get what from  "glxinfo |grep direct" ?
[10:20] <FuLio> when ever i boot i get Failed to start the x serrver
[10:20] <FuLio> do i type that in the terminal?
[10:20] <fiction> nope hes back
[10:20] <fiction> Vic1ous, didnt work?
[10:20] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, install the videi driver
[10:20] <Vic1ous> fiction,  still said i appear to be running in run level1
[10:20] <Frogzoo> FuLio: well if you can't run X, you won't get desktop effects
[10:20] <DAN_> zero
[10:20] <DAN_> zero
[10:20] <DAN_> zero
[10:20] <TheimonCoffee> video*
[10:20] <f0rqu3> init 5
[10:20] <scarface> i need one tutorial for chance my Splash Screen,
[10:20] <f0rqu3> not working?
[10:20] <FuLio> i got GLX missing on display
[10:20] <FuLio> i got GLX missing on display
[10:20] <FuLio> like 7 lines of it
[10:21] <Vic1ous> i don't know f0rqu3
[10:21] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, install the video driver
[10:21] <Frogzoo> FuLio: we can read
[10:21] <ch0c0hoLic_tAz> huy2
[10:21] <flash42> x_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 check this out
[10:21] <FuLio> Where can i find the video driver that i need?
[10:21] <x_> flash42   ok   thanks
[10:21] <Frogzoo> FuLio: -> #ubuntu-effects
[10:22] <FuLio> i was in there they tryd to help me
[10:22] <FuLio> they did there best and couldnt do it.
[10:22] <Vic1ous> fiction,  i think i need to figure out my access problem cause i can't seem to do anything without it
[10:22] <scarface> thanks
[10:22] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, first off, what type of videocard do you have?
[10:22] <fiction> Vic1ous, yea. its strange you cant access services
[10:22] <dooglus> irssi user: do you know how to (1) search backwards in a channel for a word and (2) jump to the end of the channel
[10:22] <fiction> try sudo services-admin agaib
[10:22] <fiction> again
[10:22] <f0rqu3> Vic1ous, "sudo init 5"
[10:22] <FuLio> a NVIDIA geforce go 6150 graphics
[10:22] <Temporo> Lo.
[10:23] <TheimonCoffee> then install the nvidia-glx package
[10:23] <TheimonCoffee> or the nvidia-glx-new
[10:23] <FuLio> i have down that
[10:23] <TheimonCoffee> well....
[10:23] <FuLio> done*
[10:23] <TheimonCoffee> did you adjust your xorg.conf?
[10:23] <FuLio> yessir
[10:23] <scarface> Envy have  drive for  NVIDIA
[10:24] <vic1ous> ok what did that do lol
[10:24] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, when you fail to start X, whats the error?
[10:24] <scarface> Search for Envy
[10:24] <TheimonCoffee> scar
[10:24] <SlimeyPe1e> !envy
[10:24] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[10:24] <FuLio> It was the Driver
[10:24] <scarface> Yes
[10:24] <vic1ous> f0rqu3,  what did that do lol
[10:25] <TheimonCoffee> scarface, he says he has already installed the driver
[10:25] <f0rqu3> nothing happened?
[10:25] <vic1ous> fiction,  i got services now
[10:25] <fiction> ok
[10:25] <vic1ous> oh a lot happened
[10:25] <vic1ous> lol
[10:25] <scarface> Maybe wrong driver
[10:25] <TheimonCoffee> envy will just install the latest....but his card is a bit older
[10:25] <fiction> vic1ous, see the Graphical Login Manager checkbox?
[10:26] <fiction> f0rqu3, thanks
[10:26] <vic1ous> fiction,  yes
[10:26] <f0rqu3> vic1ous, then you should be able to open windows without terminal
[10:26] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, could you boot the machine and tell us the X error?
[10:26] <fiction> vic1ous, uncheck the box. that will kill x and you will reboot without x. after you install nvidia (hopefully yuo remember the steps i told you earlier), type startx to startx again
[10:26] <FuLio> k hold on
[10:27] <vic1ous> fiction,  i've been jottin it all down
[10:27] <fiction> vic1ous, alright.
[10:27] <vic1ous> fiction,  wish me lick
[10:27] <vic1ous> luck*
[10:27] <fiction> just remember how to get to the desktop, type sudo sh
[10:27] <fiction> nv.run
[10:27] <fiction> goodluck
[10:28] <scarface> If you have installed (and are using) nvidia-glx then you already have nvidia-settings installed (don't get it from the repos). If you arn't sure whether or not you are using it, do a "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and in the "Device" secion it should the Driver line should say "nvidia". if it says "nv" you are still using the default drivers.
[10:28] <scarface> If you are using the nvidia drivers, go to Applications->System Tools->Nvidia Settings and go to color correction and you can change the brightness from there.
[10:28] <scarface> If you arn't using the nvidia drivers, you need to enable them with the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" then restart your machine and do as above.
[10:28] <scarface> If you are talking about backlight brightness on a laptop (I think maybe lcd monitors connected with digital cables as well) you can try the brightness applet. right-click one of your panels, and go to "add to panel" and select the brightness applet.
[10:28] <fiction> whoaaa
[10:28] <pHi11_> why doesith my computer turn off when i click shut down button? i cant figure it out.
[10:29] <NET||abuse> I want to connect to a cisco vpn, is there a way to use network-manager to do this?
[10:29] <NET||abuse> or what packages do i need to connect to it, even via a command line app
[10:29] <SlimeyPe1e> pHi11_: do you have a laptop with an ATI card, perchance?
[10:30] <pHi11_> uh yes
[10:30] <FuLio> it seems like i dont have that problem anymore..
[10:30] <FuLio> wierd.
[10:30] <pHi11_> ati 7000
[10:30] <SlimeyPe1e> pHi11_: it's a bug in the drivers IIRC. I have the sameproblem. I haven't managed to find a solution yet.
[10:30] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, did you get the nvidia splashscreen?
[10:30] <ketrox> NET||abuse you can download vpn client via synaptic
[10:30] <FuLio> It booted normaly
[10:30] <fiction> anyone know how to start glade?
[10:30] <scarface> Damm
[10:31] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, glxinfo|grep direct <--in a terminal
[10:31] <scarface> Fulio  If you have installed (and are using) nvidia-glx then you already have nvidia-settings installed (don't get it from the repos). If you arn't sure whether or not you are using it, do a "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and in the "Device" secion it should the Driver line should say "nvidia". if it says "nv" you are still using the default drivers.
[10:31] <scarface> If you are using the nvidia drivers, go to Applications->System Tools->Nvidia Settings and go to color correction and you can change the brightness from there.
[10:31] <scarface> If you arn't using the nvidia drivers, you need to enable them with the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" then restart your machine and do as above.
[10:31] <scarface> If you are talking about backlight brightness on a laptop (I think maybe lcd monitors connected with digital cables as well) you can try the brightness applet. right-click one of your panels, and go to "add to panel" and select the brightness applet.
[10:31] <Ind[y] > What is the exact (full) name of the default theme in Ubuntu?
[10:31] <Ind[y] > Ubuntu 7.04
[10:31] <TheimonCoffee> scarface, thats not really relevant is it?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> fiction: programming > glade interface designer
[10:31] <scarface> try "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:31] <fiction> fyrestrtr, not there. but when i check in synaptic, its installed
[10:31] <NET||abuse> ketrox, well, this is specifically a cisco vpn, will network-manager-vpnc do the job?
[10:31] <TheimonCoffee> scarface, he just said it booted normally..
[10:32] <ketrox> yes NET||abuse
[10:32] <fiction> Ind[y] , i think it's Human
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> fiction: the command is glade-3
[10:32] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, so you dint get the nvidia splashscreen?
[10:32] <FuLio> no i didnt
[10:32] <TheimonCoffee> could you pastebin your xorg.conf
[10:32] <TheimonCoffee> ?
[10:32] <hempal> Hi All: I need to update latest version of my Thunderbird in my Ubuntu 7.4. The provided version is 1.X and now there is 2.0 version. HOW/Where to update from the synaptic so that I could use that application from Applications itself. I am a very new user to Ubuntu
[10:32] <fiction> fyrestrtr, crap we're on glade 3 now? last time i checked we were on 2. and that was like 3 months ago
[10:32] <FuLio> kk hold up
[10:32] <f0rqu3> !glade
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <TheimonCoffee> !ubuntuzilla
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuzilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <TheimonCoffee> hmmm
[10:33] <Kopcap> hi, i need to be able to send mail using php, what's the easiest mail daemon for that? :)
[10:33] <atlas_> hello
[10:33] <atlas_> i search help for beaglefs please, i don't understand how to use it
[10:33] <FuLio> COFFER its 33900
[10:33] <atlas_> there are no manpage and the help don't help me :(
[10:33] <FuLio> COFFER its 33900
[10:33] <fiction> fyrestrtr, should i install glade3 on top of what i have, or uninstall what i have then install 3?
[10:33] <pHi11_> hi
[10:34] <Kopcap> atlas_ tried google? :) http://svn.gnome.org/svn/beagle/trunk/beaglefs/README
[10:34] <FuLio> COFFER its http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33900
[10:34] <TheimonCoffee> hempal, check http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[10:34] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, you're using the vesa driver
[10:35] <FuLio> =0
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> hempal: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[10:35] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> fiction: how did you install what you have?
[10:35] <fiction> fyrestrtr, synaptic
[10:35] <TheimonCoffee> be sure to select the nvidia driver and the proper resolutions
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> fiction: just install over it, should be okay.
[10:35] <teKnofreak> Kopcap, sendmail ?
[10:36] <fiction> fyrestrtr, ok. do you nkow if i install with aptitude, will it install all dependencies as well?
[10:36] <hempal> TheimonCoffee: checked, but could not do it totally understand it
[10:36] <FuLio> ok i typed it in
[10:36] <Kopcap> teKnofreak i've tried that, it said that i need to install a daemon O.o
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> fiction: yes, it should.
[10:36] <FuLio> do i choose nvidia?
[10:36] <hempal> fyrestrtr, am checking this page
[10:36] <fiction> fyrestrtr, thank you
[10:36] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, yes you have to
[10:36] <mikubuntu> Frogzoo: `you and theimon and thanda and jacksparrow helped me yesterday, and i forgive you all ... lol ... had to reinstall my ubuntu cuz i screwed up the xorg...
[10:36] <teKnofreak> Kopcap, ask in #php
[10:36] <TheimonCoffee> mikubuntu, sux :)
[10:36] <FuLio> What about the other configuration?
[10:37] <Kopcap> teKnofreak that's not releated to php afaik
[10:37] <TheimonCoffee> what other configuration?
[10:37] <FuLio> ohh nvm
[10:37] <FuLio> ok i choose the nvidia
[10:37] <teKnofreak> Kopcap, they can suggest you what to use
[10:37] <pHi11_> how come i have a fatal error reading hard disk drive when starting windows xp? anyone help me?
[10:37] <Kopcap> ok, thanks
[10:37] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, the driver is the most important thing now
[10:37] <mikubuntu> TheimonCoffee: you knew me yesterday as wubuntu, but alas, wubuntu has gone south
[10:37] <TheimonCoffee> ah
[10:37] <FuLio> ok.
[10:37] <FuLio> what do i do now?
[10:38] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, gone through all the steps?
[10:38] <fiction> f0aw f0rqu3 left
[10:38] <FuLio> the ones you told me to do
[10:38] <pHi11_> whats an a ubuntu?
[10:38] <pHi11_> i'm from sweedin yeah
[10:38] <TheimonCoffee> when you've gone through all the steps it'll ask you if you want it to write to the file
[10:39] <TheimonCoffee> say yes, it'll make a backup automatically
[10:39] <TheimonCoffee> then restart X
[10:39] <FOSee> Do you need a vt / v CPU for KVM?
[10:39] <FOSee> I don't have one
[10:39] <FuLio> how do i restart x?
[10:39] <hempal> fyrestrtr, TheimonCoffee: I am new to Linux also
[10:39] <mikubuntu> anyways.... got this old emachine today, and i can't get to the bios.  can i take out the hard drive, put it in an external case, and load xubuntu onto it from my laptop?  is that an acceptable procedure?  i really want to get it up and running, because it has a *spacious* 3.2 gb harddrive, and i'm thinking, that's great.
[10:39] <TheimonCoffee> are you at a command line?
[10:39] <FuLio> you mean terminal?
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> pHi11_: it is an african word. See http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq
[10:39] <TheimonCoffee> yeah
[10:39] <FuLio> yes
[10:39] <gordonjcp> mikubuntu: yes
[10:40] <TheimonCoffee> typ: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:40] <vic1ous> fiction,  hey it created its own kernel then said it doesnt have a libc development package and one needs to be installed
[10:40] <mikubuntu> gordonjcp: thanks .... be back in a few
[10:40] <atlas_> thanks Kopcap :) I try
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> mikubuntu: no, you will have issues doing it that way.
[10:41] <erika14212> i give up
[10:42] <Zta> I have revently installed 7.04 desktop on my laptop.  I have a CF-to-PCMCIA adapter installed in my PCMCIA-slot.  When I insert my CF card (with images from my camera) Ubuntu doesn't register this.  How do I make this work?
[10:42] <erika14212> wish these people wud not programs that dont work
[10:42] <Zta> *recently
[10:42] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: ok it now it says "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctyl. would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem.
[10:42] <TheimonCoffee> answer yes
[10:42] <FuLio> k
[10:42] <TheimonCoffee> scroll down
[10:42] <FuLio> k
[10:43] <TheimonCoffee> it should state the error
[10:43] <FuLio> Fatal server error no screens found
[10:43] <Frogzoo> Zta: tail -f /var/log/messages & insert the CF - what's the message?
[10:43] <FuLio> Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[10:44] <TheimonCoffee> could you pastebin your current xorg.conf?
[10:44] <TheimonCoffee> see what you changed
[10:44] <Frogzoo> Zta: oh probly it's just not mounted - you want to install the disk mounter applet on your toolbar, so you can mount the CF once it's inserted
[10:44] <erika14212> ill reibstall windows'] \
[10:44] <FuLio> this i wouldnt know hot to pastebin this
[10:44] <Helmi> hi - can anyone recommend a good feed reader for gnome? a platform independet one would be great
[10:44] <TheimonCoffee> hmm right you're at a terminal
[10:44] <fiction> vic1ous, okay
[10:45] <erika14212> ] write zeros to the hard drive
[10:45] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, does it state anything about a driver module?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> Helmi: firefox?
[10:45] <FuLio> yes
[10:45] <flash42> erika14212: your are free to sweep your drive
[10:45] <FuLio> Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[10:45] <erika14212> an get back the lost diskspace
[10:45] <TheimonCoffee> anything more?
[10:45] <Frogzoo> Helmi: I use Wizz RSS Firefox add on
[10:46] <flash42> but actually nobody cares
[10:46] <vic1ous> fiction,  you there?
[10:46] <erika14212> i have no choice cant get ubuntu to run
[10:46] <FuLio> thats it
[10:46] <flash42> than do it and good bye:)
[10:46] <TheimonCoffee> ok
[10:46] <FuLio> Screens found but none have a usanle configuration
[10:46] <fiction> vic1ous,  yes i came back as you left
[10:46] <FuLio> usable*
[10:46] <fiction> vic1ous, open synaptic
[10:47] <virgilio> hi all, is this the right channel to make a question about ubuntu gutsy?
[10:47] <Frogzoo> Helmi: also 'glxinfo |grep direct'
[10:47] <jnorris> hi y'all
[10:47] <erika14212> i was thanking the idiots for writing windows install programs for linux
[10:47] <dgjones> !gutsy | virgilio
[10:47] <ubotu> virgilio: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok open
[10:47] <Frogzoo> Helmi: soz - 'apt-cache search rss |grep -i gnome'
[10:47] <erika14212> complete idiots
[10:47] <virgilio> dgjones: thanks
[10:47] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: its like when ever i boot using nvidia it goes to failed x server, but when i use vesa it boots ok, but im not able to use any desktop effects
[10:47] <fiction> vic1ous, search for libc6
[10:47] <jnorris> hi y'all
[10:47] <Helmi> Frogzoo, thanks but i didn't want to know how to seach but a recommendation is what i wanted ;)
[10:47] <Helmi> thanks anyway
[10:47] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, vesa is a nasic videodriver
[10:48] <TheimonCoffee> basic*
[10:48] <erika14212> becareful of that\
[10:48] <FuLio> =0
[10:48] <erika14212> another garbage installer
[10:48] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok now what
[10:48] <TheimonCoffee> exit that error dialog and go to the command line
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> erika14212: this is why there are official, supported installation methods ... and those that aren't.
[10:48] <FuLio> ok
[10:48] <fiction> right click and mark for installation. then search for inux-libc-dev and mark for installation also
[10:49] <TheimonCoffee> then enter: sudo rmmod nvidia
[10:49] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok i installed it
[10:49] <vic1ous> fiction,  try again?
[10:49] <erika14212> these people give linux bad name
[10:49] <phart> where can i get ubuntu ver. 2.0
[10:49] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: it said Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:49] <erika14212> by creating programs that dont work
[10:49] <phart> i want to down grade.
[10:49] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, enter sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:50] <erika14212> and people have headaches trying to use them\
[10:50] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: fatal: could not opn '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[10:50] <jnorris> window_history = ONUUBUNTU ROCKS
[10:50] <FuLio> no such file
[10:51] <TheimonCoffee> means it doesn't exist
[10:51] <TheimonCoffee> yeah
[10:51] <erika14212> wish those programs cud be banned
[10:51] <TheimonCoffee> your drivers arent (correctly) installed
[10:51] <FuLio> n0o0o... =[
[10:51] <phart> where can i get ubuntu ver. 2.0 i need to down-grade.
[10:51] <FuLio> help. =\
[10:51] <Zta> Frogzoo, pcmcia detects the card
[10:51] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, which nvidia package did you believe you had installed?
[10:52] <FuLio> im not sure.
[10:52] <vic1ous> fiction,  i'm not jumpin to conclusions but i think it worked.. how can i test it
[10:52] <FuLio> just a geforce go 6150
[10:52] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, doesnt matter really
[10:52] <fiction> vic1ous, did the installer said it worked?
[10:52] <ConfidentiaL> how can i use a new partition as /home/ after I have installed my system?
[10:52] <Zta> Frogzoo, I have the applet installed, but it doesn't register my card.
[10:52] <TheimonCoffee> yes thats your card
[10:52] <TheimonCoffee> :)
[10:52] <TheimonCoffee> i was talking about the driver
[10:52] <FuLio> yea im not sure.
[10:52] <Zta> Frogzoo, and besides, I'd like it just to appear on my desktop as a mountpoint, just like when I insert an usb flash stick eg.
[10:53] <TheimonCoffee> but here we go: enter on the commandline: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[10:53] <vic1ous> fiction,  well it said some file library couldnt be found but it assumed it worked
[10:53] <vic1ous> lol
[10:53] <fiction> vic1ous, when you installed those files from syanptic, did you click "apply" ?
[10:53] <vic1ous> yes
[10:53] <fiction> do you rememebr the library it couldnt find?
[10:53] <vic1ous> libGL ?
[10:53] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
[10:53] <fiction> vic1ous, when you logge in, did you see the nvidia logo for a split second or a second?
[10:54] <vic1ous> fiction,  didn't see it
[10:54] <TheimonCoffee> but here we go: enter on the commandline: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx <-------------------mind the sudo in front of it
[10:54] <FuLio> k
[10:54] <FuLio> its dne
[10:54] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, so its: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[10:54] <FuLio> done*
[10:54] <fiction> vic1ous, then no, didn't work. but just to check. press alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus /etc/X11/
[10:54] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: rgr
[10:55] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, now still on the command line enter: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:55] <erika14212> eventually i guess a cd
[10:55] <vic1ous> ok now what
[10:55] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: k
[10:55] <Zta> Frogzoo, perhaps I need to install a package to handle cf-cards?  Or perhaps I need to tweak hal or whatever is handeling this device?
[10:55] <TheimonCoffee> scroll down, and look for the driver entry
[10:55] <TheimonCoffee> make sure it says nvidia
[10:55] <fiction> vic1ous, got there?
[10:56] <vic1ous> fiction,  it took me to X11 File Browser
[10:56] <d31> Anybody able to help troubleshoot why i'm unable to hear sounds coming from my PC? The speaker icon has disappeared as well...aslamixer shows my card as being active, and lsmod shows me sound card drivers as being loaded
[10:56] <fiction> vic1ous, yes. open xorg.conf
[10:56] <FuLio> Section dive. Driver "nvidia"
[10:56] <fiction> vic1ous, scroll till you see Sction "screen"
[10:56] <Frogzoo> Zta: nope, should work out of the box
[10:56] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, good, exit nano by pressing ctrl+x
[10:56] <FuLio> k
[10:57] <vic1ous> what am i looking for on it?
[10:57] <fiction> TheimonCoffee, we seem to be saying the same thing, hehe
[10:57] <TheimonCoffee> now we're back at the command line
[10:57] <TheimonCoffee> lool
[10:57] <FuLio> yessir
[10:57] <TheimonCoffee> :)
[10:57] <fiction> vic1ous, youre looking for Section "screen"
[10:57] <vic1ous> fiction,  yea i see that
[10:57] <fiction> Does it say nvidia?
[10:57] <TheimonCoffee> at that command line type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:57] <Zta> Frogzoo, this is my log: http://pastebin.ca/659455
[10:57] <fiction> anywhere in there?
[10:57] <vic1ous> Device         "nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTX] "
[10:57] <fiction> vic1ous, yes
[10:57] <fiction> then it is installed
[10:57] <vic1ous> YAY
[10:57] <vic1ous> lol
[10:57] <fiction> install beryl
[10:58] <Zta> Frogzoo, there are some strange errors after slight delay
[10:58] <vic1ous> i dunno how lol....
[10:58] <fiction> im worried it give you a little error.
[10:58] <fiction> vic1ous, open synaptic and type "beryl"
[10:58] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: i still get a Failed to star teh X server
[10:58] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, hmm
[10:58] <TheimonCoffee> weird
[10:58] <TheimonCoffee> whats the error?
[10:58] <vic1ous> fiction,  install everything it brought up??
[10:58] <erika14212> hmmmm
[10:58] <Myrth> hi, is it possible to have single / dual monitor setup that doesn't need reboot of X?
[10:59] <imbecile> just a quick question.. where does azureus store .torrent files by default?
[10:59] <FuLio> TheimonCoffee: ok it now it says "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctyl. would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem.
[10:59] <fiction> vic1ous, let me see mine hold on
[10:59] <TheimonCoffee> answer yes
[10:59] <FuLio> ok
[10:59] <erika14212> reposting on the wibdoiws installer site
[10:59] <TheimonCoffee> scroll down to see the error
[10:59] <FuLio> Fatal server erroor: no screens found
[10:59] <erika14212> i hope piss someone off on there
[10:59] <TheimonCoffee> and the lines above that?
[11:00] <FuLio> NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!! NVIDIA aborting
[11:00] <fiction> vic1ous, beryl, beryl-core, bery-manager, bery-plugins, beryl-plugins-data, beryl-settings, emerald, emerald-themes, libberyldecorations
[11:00] <Zta> Frogzoo, pccardctl info shows it ..
[11:00] <TheimonCoffee> FuLio, you did install the nvidia-glx package just now right?
[11:00] <erika14212> i know they dont like intelligence questions\
[11:00] <TheimonCoffee> without errors?
[11:00] <FuLio> yes
[11:00] <TheimonCoffee> k
[11:00] <FuLio> i did what you told me to do.
[11:01] <TheimonCoffee> ok
[11:01] <FuLio> like try the glx-new?
[11:01] <fiction> TheimonCoffee, FuLio i dont wanna butt in, but i suggest installing manrually.
[11:01] <TheimonCoffee> sounds like it yes
[11:01] <ConfidentiaL> how can I use a new partition as /home/ ?
[11:01] <FuLio> what will we be installing manually?
[11:01] <fiction> ConfidentiaL, you get to set that up when isntalling
[11:02] <fiction> FuLio, i havent been following your convo with TheimonCoffee , but it seems like an nvidia driver?
[11:02] <ConfidentiaL> fiction: but if I wanna do it after I have installed my system?
[11:02] <FuLio> yes
[11:02] <TheimonCoffee> yes fiction he installed but it fails to load
[11:02] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok downloading 230 megs 5 minutes left
[11:02] <FuLio> its being a butthole
[11:03] <fiction> ConfidentiaL, /etc/fstab
[11:03] <fiction> vic1ous, i love your connection
[11:03] <vic1ous> fiction,  me too
[11:03] <fiction> TheimonCoffee, did you do it by hand? (killing x server) ?
[11:03] <TheimonCoffee> he wasnt even able to load X
[11:03] <erika14212> idiots create crap
[11:04] <fiction> TheimonCoffee, when installing manually, youre not supposed to
[11:04] <erika14212> they should be varred
[11:04] <TheimonCoffee> erika14212, talking about windows?
[11:04] <fiction> TheimonCoffee, mind if i help him?
[11:04] <TheimonCoffee> fiction, this wasnt manual install but apt-get
[11:04] <TheimonCoffee> ofcourse go ahead :)
[11:04] <TheimonCoffee> anything to get the guy going :)
[11:04] <erika14212> no in the dumbass who creates windows installer for ununtu
[11:04] <fiction> TheimonCoffee, ok thanks :)
[11:04] <faileas> erm
[11:04] <FuLio> please , im new to this. seeing alot of youtube videos is very nice.
[11:04] <fiction> FuLio, do you have the driver downloaded?
[11:04] <faileas> windows installer?
[11:04] <MindSpark> hi
[11:05] <TheimonCoffee> i got to take a look at my gentoo pc so, i'll be afk for a sec :)
[11:05] <FuLio> fiction im not siure
[11:05] <MindSpark> which autofs package does ubuntu use ?
[11:05] <fiction> FuLio, go to www.nvidia.com, and download your driver there
[11:05] <erika14212> for ubumtu
[11:05] <MindSpark> I want to set it up to mount ntfs as ntfs-3g/fuse instead of standard ntfs
[11:05] <erika14212> some total jackass created one
[11:05] <FuLio> on the my laptop?
[11:06] <imbecile> wow girls get away with everything here
[11:06] <imbecile> errrr supposed girls
[11:06] <erika14212> i guess he is that dumb
[11:06] <Snake> erika i wana use ubuntu whit you jaja
[11:06] <FuLio> im gonna have to choose vesa agn to get to the desktop, and download the driver
[11:06] <imbecile> ;)
[11:06] <erika14212> k
[11:06] <FuLio> fiction: is that ok ?
[11:07] <vic1ous> fiction,  20 seconds
[11:07] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok now its installing
[11:07] <erika14212> ok
[11:07] <scriptha> I installed php5-mysql, but I get "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect()", what to do?
[11:07] <erika14212> another one goe bye bye
[11:08] <fiction> vic1ous, alright,. have you ever heard of beryl?
[11:08] <fiction> FuLio, yes its ok
[11:08] <erika14212> hehe
[11:08] <MindSpark> scriptha, restart apache
[11:08] <vic1ous> fiction,  nope
[11:09] <fiction> Fulio, which card do you have?
[11:09] <Zta> Frogzoo, Aparrently this is a known bug: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3187158
[11:09] <fiction> vic1ous, youll love this
[11:09] <t4m1n0> hellop tehre
[11:09] <vic1ous> fiction,  =] 
[11:09] <t4m1n0> what do u suggest for a simple commandline ftp server ?
[11:09] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, vsftpd
[11:09] <slapfaceware> ftpd
[11:09] <MindSpark> what's a simple commandline ftp server ?
[11:09] <mikubuntu> anybody familiar with and old bios by 'award software' that i have on an old acer here?  it's different from any bios page i've ever seen.  heres the lines it has: virus warning; disabled, cpu internal cache; enabled, quick power on self test; enabled, boot sequence; A,C, SCSI, swap floppy drive; disabled, boot up floppy seek; enabled, boot up numlock status; on, mem ecc funtion; enabled,...
[11:09] <mikubuntu> ...typematic rate setting; enabled, tpematic rate; 6, typematic delay; 250, security option; setup, pci/vga palette snoop; disabled, OS select for dram > 64mb; Non-OS2, HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability; enabled,  then theres a lot of stuf about  'shadow' something ........ can anyone tell me which one i might alter to try to get her to boot on the cd?
[11:09] <fiction> vic1ous, check out this vid i made of beryl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtFZk1ktiEw
[11:09] <MindSpark> aren't they all 'commandline ?'
[11:09] <FuLio> fiction: im not sure which drivers to download, can you walk me through please.
[11:09] <Simple> hey
[11:10] <erika14212> huh huh
[11:10] <fiction> FuLio, which card do you have?
[11:10] <FuLio> geforce 6150
[11:10] <fiction> ok hold on
[11:10] <erika14212> aybe window best
[11:10] <MindSpark> arrrrg, how do I setup the mounting ?
[11:10] <slapfaceware> just ask, if there's gui ftp server in x windows system that use openGL
[11:10] <MindSpark> I don't want to strace through thunar !
[11:10] <vic1ous> fiction,  wont let me view it i need java
[11:10] <Myrtti> !language | erika14212
[11:10] <ubotu> erika14212: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:10] <fiction> vic1ous, oh okay. we fix later then
[11:11] <fiction> FuLio, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_100.14.11.html
[11:11] <vic1ous> fiction,  lol thanks man you don't know how much your helpin me i appreciate it =] 
[11:11] <fiction> vic1ous, it's ok
[11:11] <t4m1n0> that's weird: I've installed ftpd as root. I also wanna to start it with ftpd, but than I get a note that command not found :s
[11:11] <morpheus> anyone seen a debian HP raid diagnostics utility?
[11:11] <fiction> just helping others as they have helped me. and still do, alot.
[11:11] <MindSpark> scriptha, did it work ?
[11:11] <fiction> lol
[11:12] <t4m1n0> slapfaceware: how can I start ftpd
[11:12] <slapfaceware> t4m1n0, it runs as inetd service, you don't start it directly
[11:12] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, /etc/init.d/ftpd start
[11:12] <t4m1n0> ok
[11:12] <t4m1n0> tnx
[11:12] <FuLio> friction: for step 2 do i just download it?
[11:13] <scriptha> MindSpark, not using apache..
[11:13] <alexandra> qwe
[11:13] <MindSpark> scriptha, then restart the webserver, it needs to run through the php module again
[11:13] <fiction> FuLio, just download it to your desktop for now
[11:13] <scriptha> Already tried that
[11:13] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok done and done
[11:14] <fiction> vic now from the menu, go to system tools and choose beryl
[11:14] <MindSpark> scriptha, you using tomcat ?
[11:14] <fiction> you should see a red icon in your traybar
[11:14] <scriptha> no lighttpd
[11:14] <FuLio> fiction: its on my desktop
[11:14] <vic1ous> fiction,  yea i see it
[11:14] <fiction> FuLio, rename it to nv.run
[11:15] <imbecile> how do i fix this??? PLEEASEEE # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.5.0_11-b03 mixed mode, sharing)# Problematic frame:# C  [libglibjni-0.4.so+0x9172] 
[11:15] <MindSpark> scriptha, ok, haven't tried that, but did you check if the php5-mysql module is loaded correctly ?
[11:15] <fiction> vic1ous, move a window around see if it wobbles
[11:15] <MindSpark> there's gotta be some way to configure it
[11:15] <vic1ous> fiction,  lol hahaha its strechy
[11:15] <fiction> vic1ous, have fun wasting countless hours playing with beryl settings
[11:15] <FuLio> ok down
[11:15] <FuLio> done8
[11:15] <Ind[y] > Is there something like Ubuntu's --purge, in Gentoo?
[11:15] <Mr_Awesome> hi. i just burned a livecd for ubuntu 7.04 desktop standard. when i boot from the cd, i get to a menu that says ubuntu, with various options. however, when i select any of the options except "memtest" and "boot from hard disk," a dialog pops up that says I/O error and Reboot, with a message at the top saying "Loading isolinux: Disk error 32, AX = 4200 drive 9F"
[11:15] <fiction> vic1ous, go to the options, play with the cube, etc
[11:15] <vic1ous> fiction,  vista eat your heart out
[11:15] <vic1ous> fiction,  ok
[11:15] <fiction> =] 
[11:16] <scriptha> MindSpark, how do I do that?
[11:16] <Ind[y] > (in package management)
[11:16] <fiction> vic1ous, install java from synaptic
[11:16] <MindSpark> scriptha, there's gotta be some configuration file in /etc/
[11:16] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: this is even more weird: it says that no such file or directory when I'm trying to start inetd..
[11:16] <fiction> FuLio, when you talk to me, put my name in front or i sometimes miss your messages =/
[11:16] <MindSpark> something like /etc/lighttpd.conf or something like that
[11:16] <FuLio> Fiction: done lol
[11:16] <fiction> FuLio, do you know how to navigate to your desktop friom the command line?
[11:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Mr_Awesome, means your cd is messed up
[11:16] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, maybe you have xinted instead of inetd
[11:16] <scriptha> MindSpark, lighttpd doesnt have to load mysql, php has to load it
[11:16] <FuLio> Fiction: the terminal?
[11:17] <vic1ous> fiction,  lots of stuff comes up when you search java
[11:17] <fiction> FuLio, yes
[11:17] <FuLio> Fiction: yes i do
[11:17] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: how can that be, if I installed ftpd
[11:17] <Mr_Awesome> TheimonCoffeeAfk: hmm, i tried burning it twice, same result. does that mean my cd image is probably messed up?
[11:17] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, go into /etc
[11:17] <fiction> vic1ous, thats weird. i doesnt firefox give you a popup on top asking you to install the plugin?
[11:17] <MindSpark> and find a file with ftp in it
[11:17] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> could be\
[11:17] <fiction> ok FuLio
[11:17] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, I have edgy and by default it comes with proftpd
[11:17] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Mr_Awesome, checked the md5sum on it?
[11:17] <vic1ous> fiction,  yea i didnt know it would work for linux
[11:17] <MindSpark> so I guess you could try /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[11:18] <t4m1n0> MindFreak, I'm on a debian, but this shouldn't be an issue
[11:18] <fiction> FuLio, write this down. you're gonna have to navigate to your desktop and type "sudo sh nv.run"
[11:18] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Mr_Awesome, you could try to download another one and burn it with lower speed
[11:18] <fiction> FuLio, but not yet,
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> imbecile: when do you see that? azureus?
[11:18] <fiction> vic1ous, so you can view youtube now?
[11:18] <Mr_Awesome> TheimonCoffeeAfk: i dont know where to find the md5 checksum
[11:18] <aldaek> how do you get ubuntu to bypass the disk check for the partitioner (it had a bunch of i/o read errors)?
[11:18] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, anyway you need to find out which ftp server you have installed, if you have any
[11:18] <vic1ous> fiction,  never mind it wont no suitable plugins found
[11:18] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> than skip that step
[11:18] <Mr_Awesome> TheimonCoffeeAfk: if possible, id like to avoid another 2 hr download :/
[11:18] <MindSpark> and if you don't you should apt-get one
[11:18] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> 2hr? :(
[11:18] <fiction> vic1ous, let me help fulio setup his card and ill help you
[11:18] <FuLio> Fiction: it said sh: cant open nv.run
[11:18] <fiction> FuLio, i said not yet lol
[11:18] <vic1ous> fiction,  thats kewl
[11:19] <nitrate_> Hi, I have a Card reader in my laptop which functions well with SD cards. But I am not able to access XD cards. Though in /var/log/messages says "Aug 16 11:13:06 localhost kernel: [40258.008000]  tifm_core: SmartMedia/xD card detected in socket 0:0 "
[11:19] <fiction> FuLio, just write that command down, youll need for later
[11:19] <nitrate_> How do I access XD card now ?
[11:19] <Mr_Awesome> TheimonCoffeeAfk: is there a way i can verify that my cd image isnt corrupted?
[11:19] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Mr_Awesome, tried burning it on a lower speed?
[11:19] <FuLio> Fiction: k
[11:19] <Mr_Awesome> no, ill give that a shot
[11:19] <fiction> FuLio, open synaptic
[11:19] <scriptha> MindSpark, no ideas?
[11:19] <FuLio> Fiction; how od i open it?
[11:19] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Mr_Awesome, thats through the md5sum check
[11:20] <t4m1n0> MindFreak: in /etc I only have ftpchroot and ftpusers
[11:20] <fiction> FuLio, synaptic? from your talkbar menu, go to Administrarion, and select Syapntic
[11:20] <Mr_Awesome> TheimonCoffeeAfk: where can i find a checksum for it?
[11:20] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, type "apt-cache search ftp"
[11:21] <vic1ous> fiction,  quick question can i add 1920x1200 in xorg.conf to get my actual reolution
[11:21] <FuLio> Fiction; k
[11:21] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Mr_Awesome, i'm looking for it, where/how did you download the image
[11:21] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> ?
[11:21] <fyrestrtr> !md5 > Mr_Awesome
[11:21] <t4m1n0> MindFreak I get many of them..
[11:21] <fiction> vic1ous, yes
[11:21] <aldaek> how do you get ubuntu to bypass the disk check for the partitioner (it had a bunch of i/o read errors)?
[11:21] <fiction> FuLio, now search for libc
[11:22] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, go into /etc/init.d/ and look if you have anything that has ftpd in it
[11:22] <UBUNTU01> http://antigop-k4.narod.ru/ubuntu.html
[11:22] <MindSpark> anyfilename with ftpd
[11:22] <MindSpark> something like proftpd or vsftpd or something like that
[11:22] <scriptha> How do I enable mysql on php manually?
[11:23] <albert23> scriptha: check if you have a line "extension=mysql.so" in your php.ini file
[11:23] <FuLio> Fiction; k i found it
[11:23] <MindSpark> scriptha, http://laitsas.com/lighttpd/11/mysql-php-debian-installation/
[11:23] <d31> Anybody able to help troubleshoot why i'm unable to hear sounds coming from my PC? The speaker icon has disappeared as well...aslamixer shows my card as being active, and lsmod shows me sound card drivers as being loaded
[11:23] <SID1>  ???
[11:23] <fiction> FuLio, right click lib6, and select "mark for install"
[11:24] <fiction> FuLio, do the same thing for linux-libc-dev
[11:24] <scriptha> MindSpark, I told that is not working..
[11:24] <t4m1n0> MindFreak: nothing tehre..
[11:24] <t4m1n0> there*
[11:24] <fiction> ConfidentiaL, got it?
[11:25] <scriptha> albert23, thanks
[11:25] <FuLio> Fiction:i cant click on mark for install it says mark for reinstallation
[11:25] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, it's MindSpark, but now you need to get an ftp server
[11:25] <fiction> FuLio, then you already have it installed. good. nvm then. but make sure you have both of them
[11:25] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, as root type "apt-get install proftpd"
[11:25] <FuLio> Fiction; i do
[11:26] <fiction> FuLio, ok. do you remember the command i told you earlier?
[11:26] <FuLio> ys
[11:26] <FuLio> Fiction;yes
[11:26] <fiction> FuLio, ok. after you type that in, it will install your driver. but after that, you will need to type 'startx' to start your xserver. remember this too
[11:26] <FuLio> where do i type in the command?
[11:26] <fiction> FuLio, now go to the menu > administration > Services
[11:27] <FuLio> in terminal?
[11:27] <fiction> no
[11:27] <fiction> in the menu bar, find services
[11:27] <FuLio> Fiction; im on tehre
[11:27] <fiction> near synaptic
[11:27] <fiction> ok. look for the Graphical Login Manager (GDM)
[11:27] <boris_> how do i delete folder in terminal ?
[11:28] <FuLio> Fiction; i ok
[11:28] <boris_> sudo _________
[11:28] <fiction> FuLio, When you uncheck that box, your xserver will die, youll have to reboot and when you comeback, x wont start
[11:28] <fiction> FuLio, youll login to linux without the xserver. then you will navigate to your desktop and do what i told you earlier
[11:28] <FuLio> thats when i type in taht command?
[11:28] <fiction> FuLio, sudo sh nv.run.....it will install....after it installs, type startx and youll be back here
[11:29] <FuLio> ok
[11:29] <fiction> good luck :p
[11:29] <FuLio> so when i do that. it will take me to a terminal?
[11:29] <Selenolycus> I just installed Xubuntu 7.04, and whenever I run Terminal, it logs me out of Xfce. Any ideas as to why it would do that?
[11:29] <FuLio> Fiction:so when i do that. it will take me to a terminal?
[11:29] <Miso> when i try to unmount drives I get a mount disagrees with the fstab error
[11:29] <fiction> FuLio, no, it will stop x. youll get some errors and have to reboot. or itlll just reboot automatically
[11:29] <MindSpark> Miso, please paste the error
[11:30] <Miso> unmount: /media/hda1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[11:30] <fiction> FuLio, when you restart, youll just see a black screen witht ext
[11:31] <fiction> FuLio, it will ask you for your login and password, type those in
[11:31] <MindSpark> Miso, did you umount or unmount ?
[11:31] <fiction> FuLio, after that, youll see the terminal
[11:31] <Mr_Awesome> how big should the desktop cd image be?
[11:31] <fiction> FuLio, thats when you type those commands i told you
[11:31] <Miso> mindspark i right clicked on the icon on my desktop and selected unmount
[11:31] <Frogzoo> MindSpark: hda is now sda
[11:32] <t4m1n0> MindFreak: Can I set manually port for proftpd, like port: 17, even though deafoult port is 21 ?
[11:32] <imbecile> is gnochm any good? i got a chm for linux modding and i thought it was ironic it was in chm format
[11:32] <Frogzoo> Miso: hda is now sda
[11:32] <FuLio> Fiction; it says sh: cant open nv.run
[11:32] <Frogzoo> MindSpark: tab malfunct sorry
[11:32] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, yes
[11:32] <fiction> FuLio, you have to uncheck the box where it says  Graphical Login Manager
[11:32] <FuLio> i did.
[11:32] <MindSpark> Miso, how did you mount it in the first place ?
[11:32] <fiction> FuLio, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:33] <FuLio> Fiction:7.04
[11:33] <MindSpark> Frogzoo, np ;)
[11:33] <FuLio> Fiction; the newest one.
[11:33] <fiction> FuLio, you must be in the wrong place then
[11:33] <Miso> mindspark: it's there when ubuntu loads
[11:33] <fiction> open terminal and type
[11:33] <fiction> sudo services-admin
[11:33] <fiction> FuLio, is that where you were before?
[11:33] <MindSpark> Miso, can you please try to unmount, then open a terminal and type dmesg
[11:33] <MindSpark> ?
[11:34] <FuLio> Fiction; no
[11:34] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: when I try to start proftpd in inetd mode ( I chose this option during the installation) tehre is a note: ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration. How can I fix this?
[11:34] <fiction> FuLio, ok. then in the window that just opened. uncheck Graphical Login Manager....good luck
[11:34] <imbecile> can anyone hear me?
[11:34] <fiction> hear? no
[11:34] <cmo-0> can somebody help me? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04. This is alongside win2000 (dual boot setup). While i was on ubuntu, i ran Gnome partition software. i used it to delete one of the fat32 partitions, and then i tried to disklabel it. once i'd done that (BOOM) all partitions displayed by Gpartition disappeared as if the whole disk was one continous empty block. Fourtunatly i didn't reboot the pc. in addition, still i can access the partitions detecte
[11:34] <cmo-0> d by the kernel at startup. this may suggest that the partitions table is stored somewhere and used by the kernel. PLEASE, can somebody help me?
[11:34] <Miso> mindspark: a lot of text is returned when i enter that command
[11:34] <nitrate_> Does anyone have any luck in reading XD cards in ubuntu?
[11:34] <fiction> nitrate_, yes
[11:34] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, you probably don't have inetd installed, I suggest you either install inetd or start proftpd in standalone mode
[11:35] <fiction> nitrate_, i just put it in and the icon shows up on desktop
[11:35] <fiction> FuLio, .....?
[11:35] <imbecile> i never get any answers in here anymore :( last probably 20 questions ive asked have got no response :(
[11:35] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, standalone shouldn't be a problem if you don't have that many servers running on the machine
[11:35] <nitrate_> fiction, I can read SD cards but not XD cards. Any pointers on that ?
[11:35] <fiction> imbecile, i answered you. couldnt hear
[11:35] <MindSpark> misnix, yes, but in the end it should say something related to that error
[11:35] <nitrate_> fiction, thats nice for you !
[11:35] <t4m1n0> MindSpark:the package is inted ?
[11:35] <MindSpark> Miso, , yes, but in the end it should say something related to that error
[11:35] <t4m1n0> inetd
[11:35] <fiction> nitrate_, oh wait. sorry. i can read SD =(
[11:35] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, try xinetd
[11:35] <imbecile> fiction:  yeah thats why i was making sure people could see what i'm typing
[11:35] <nitrate_> fiction: oh, okay :(
[11:36] <fiction> nitrate_, maybe the forums?
[11:36] <MindSpark> it's newer
[11:36] <fiction> haha imbecile . what is one of your question?
[11:36] <cmo-0> Help, Please?
[11:36] <MindSpark> Miso, could you find something like that ?
[11:36] <fyrestrtr> cmo-0: what help would you like?
[11:36] <fiction> nitrate_, maybe the forums would get you an answer =D
[11:36] <nitrate_> fiction: yes, trying there. Looks like around Dec 2006 the kernel module for XD card was still under development. Have to find what is the state now...
[11:36] <imbecile> fiction:  eh, none really right now.. I was just checking
[11:36] <cmo-0> can somebody help me? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04. This is alongside win2000 (dual boot setup). While i was on ubuntu, i ran Gnome partition software. i used it to delete one of the fat32 partitions, and then i tried to disklabel it. once i'd done that (BOOM) all partitions displayed by Gpartition disappeared as if the whole disk was one continous empty block. Fourtunatly i didn't reboot the pc. in addition, still i can access the partitions detecte
[11:36] <cmo-0> d by the kernel at startup. this may suggest that the partitions table is stored somewhere and used by the kernel. PLEASE, can somebody help me?
[11:37] <fiction> nitrate_, oohh okay.
[11:37] <fiction> imbecile, okay
[11:37] <nitrate_> fiction: Okay, I search more then. Thanks.
[11:37] <fiction> FuLio, you there man?
[11:37] <fiction> nitrate_, kk good luck
[11:37] <cmo-0> can i restore partitions table to its original state?
[11:37] <rausb0> Selenolycus: i also had this error. the X server was crashing when Terminal started. try running xterm instead.
[11:37] <FuLio> Fiction; it didnt work =[
[11:37] <Miso> mindspark: i am trying to send a screenshot
[11:37] <rausb0> Selenolycus: did you install from the live cd?
[11:37] <fiction> FuLio, what happened after you unchecked the Graphical Login Manager checbox
[11:37] <fyrestrtr> cmo-0: no.
[11:37] <MindSpark> Miso, mail it to me
[11:38] <cmo-0> So! finished!
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> cmo-0: unfortunately; yes.
[11:38] <FuLio> it asked me something then i said yes it took me to a black screen, where i had to force a reboot then it booted. n i typed it sudo sh nv.run and it said it couldnt open it
[11:38] <fyrestrtr> cmo-0: when you restart the computer, the new partition table will be read.
[11:38] <Saied> I have problem with apt-get update
[11:38] <mg> cmo-O if you do a fdisk -l what does it display?
[11:38] <Saied> this is the error: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key
[11:38] <fiction> FuLio, when you downloaded the file from the nvidia website and put it on your desktop, did you rename it?
[11:39] <fiction> to nv.run?
[11:39] <rausb0> Selenolycus: i believe this bug was fixed in an update. so if you do "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" the error should vanish
[11:39] <FuLio> yes i did
[11:39] <FuLio> Fiction; nv.run
[11:39] <FuLio> right?
[11:39] <fiction> FuLio, and did you make sure you were in the same directory as the file? (your desktop) ?
[11:39] <FuLio> yes
[11:39] <FuLio> its on teh desktop.
[11:40] <fiction> FuLio, are you usining the 32 or 64bit version of ubuntu?
[11:40] <Hobbsee> Saied: does it happen if you run "sudo apt-get update" again?
[11:40] <Saied> Hobbsee: yes
[11:41] <fiction> fulat2k, ?
[11:41] <Hobbsee> Saied: erk, OK.
[11:41] <FuLio> Fiction; im usingStandard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)
[11:41] <Hobbsee> Saied: finding out.
[11:41] <fiction> FuLio, did you get any error messages when you typed sudo sh nv.run?
[11:41] <SoulChild> HEY ALL ,... somehow pmount and gnome-volume-manager do not auto mount anymore,.. how to fix ????
[11:42] <FuLio> yes
[11:42] <FuLio> Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM);it said , cant open sh nv.run
[11:42] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: I remove it purge, and than install it and chose standalone, but there is also osmekind of a problem: Starting ftp server: proftpd - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'petelin.siol' error: No address associated with hostname
[11:42] <fiction> FuLio, what did it say?
[11:42] <FuLio> fiction; cant open sh nv.run
[11:42] <fiction> !nvidia
[11:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:42] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, go into /etc/hosts
[11:42] <blazemonger> problem:i have a d865perl mobo 768mb memory but a old IDE drive
[11:43] <blazemonger> and my disk cache is CRAP
[11:43] <fiction> FuLio, click that link, well go through
[11:43] <MindSpark> and add an entry with 'petelin.siol' and 127.0.0.1
[11:43] <blazemonger> running the speed of a single speed cd drive
[11:43] <jscinoz> Hey guys, im trying to get my webcam working, i know have a device /dev/video0 how can i see the data stream from it to verify its working?
[11:43] <FuLio> fiction;k
[11:43] <blazemonger> scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      Maxtor 54098U8   DA62 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[11:43] <fiction> click the see nvidia how to link
[11:43] <phart> i woundered... is there such thing as a animated wallpaper?
[11:44] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33906/  output of a hoststs
[11:44] <FuLio> fiction; cant find that.
[11:44] <thoreauputic> phart: yes, but probably tricky in GNOME - it is fairly easy in window managers like fluxbox
[11:45] <fiction> FuLio, alright. go to System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager.
[11:45] <thoreauputic> phart: one approximation is xpenguins :) Fun little thing...
[11:45] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, is that address actually associated with your machine ?
[11:45] <FuLio> fiction; it says Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[11:45] <thoreauputic> phart: not really a wallpaper though
[11:46] <fiction> FuLio, does it say your card is in use?
[11:46] <t4m1n0> MindFreak, if u mean 192.168.2.17 yes it's local adress
[11:46] <FuLio> fiction; where can i check for that?
[11:46] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, oh, my mistake, I think you will need to find that part which address to bind to in /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:46] <phart> you know i kinda works like a screensaver, but on your desktop wallpaper
[11:47] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: tehre is nothing to see.. a blank file
[11:47] <vecina> whats the best way to link XVID parts togetehr in linux? mencoder have an option?
[11:47] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, ok, wait please
[11:47] <fiction> FuLio, it should say. if it didn,t then i suppose it isnt. a screen popped up and it should tell you
[11:47] <t4m1n0> MindFreak: Ok.
[11:47] <thoreauputic> phart: yes, see above - there is also xsnow, but again it doesn't really work in GNOME
[11:47] <thoreauputic> xpenguins works though
[11:47] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[11:47] <slawek> HI PLEASE HELP
[11:48] <thoreauputic> !caps
[11:48] <FuLio> fiction: it says Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[11:48] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:48] <FuLio> fiction: it says Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers.
[11:48] <walker> Hi, I just have the one question, could someone please point me in the right direction on how to make a Ubuntu Install CD pre-packaged with updates?
[11:48] <FuLio> fiction; thats all it says.
[11:48] <slawek> i cant authorize to update form ubuntu 6.12 to 7.04
[11:48] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2
[11:48] <slawek> ??
[11:48] <slawek> ?>>>>
[11:48] <fiction> FuLio, strange. are you SURE that when you typed sudo sh nv.run you were YOUR desktop? You should have typed 'ls' to check
[11:48] <phart> like a .gif file will support images that move or make it appear that the image is moving
[11:49] <fiction> FuLio, ls lists all the file in the current folder.
[11:49] <FuLio> fiction; wher do i type it in?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> walker: there is a CD customisation page on the wiki - I don't have a link handy but it's easy to find
[11:49] <fiction> FuLio, in terminal.
[11:50] <Selenolycus> rausb0: Thanks. I installed both from the LiveCD, and on seeing the error, I installed via the alternate.
[11:50] <FuLio> fiction; this is what i got desktop examples xorg.log
[11:50] <fiction> FuLio, so when you restarted and typed 'sudo sh nv.run', you should have typed ls first to see if nv.run is in the directory youre in
[11:50] <fiction> fulio
[11:50] <FuLio> yes
[11:50] <fiction> FuLio, type cd Deskktop
[11:50] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2
[11:50] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2????????????????????????????????????????
[11:50] <Znortfl> Hey, does anyone know if there is a Linux port of the VeohTV client?
[11:51] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: Output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33907/
[11:51] <FuLio> fiction; no such file or directory.
[11:51] <fiction> fulio make sure Desktop if with a capital D
[11:51] <fiction> cd Desktop
[11:51] <FuLio> k
[11:51] <fiction> FuLio, did it work?
[11:51] <FuLio> yes
[11:51] <fiction> did you do that when you restarted?
[11:52] <FuLio> ohh no, im at the desktop typing it.
[11:52] <FuLio> you wanted me to reboot
[11:52] <FuLio> ?
[11:52] <fiction> FuLio, man, you told me you knew how to navigate to your desktop through the command line =(
[11:52] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, I was just looking at your hosts file again, are you running ipv6 ?
[11:52] <fiction> FuLio, yes. navigate to yoru desktop by typing cd Desktop after you login. then type ls and see if nv.run is listed
[11:52] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2
[11:52] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2
[11:52] <fiction> FuLio, then proceed.
[11:52] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2
[11:52] <thoreauputic> walker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:52] <walker> thoreauputic: Do you mean this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization ? If so, I couldn't find what I was looking for on that page. If it was there it was a little over my head. Prehaps I should ask in the forum?
[11:52] <FuLio> OHHH
[11:52] <FuLio> omg
[11:52] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: what program needs ipv6 ? I am on this computer remotelly... I run irsii and ssh..
[11:52] <FuLio> it works~~!!
[11:52] <fiction> lol
[11:53] <FuLio> fiction;IT WORKS
[11:53] <thoreauputic> slawek: stop it
[11:53] <FuLio> lol
[11:53] <FuLio> YAYA
[11:53] <fiction> FuLio, ok. now reboot and try
[11:53] <FuLio> fiction; wait
[11:53] <fiction> ?
[11:53] <FuLio> fiction; its asking accept or do not accept
[11:53] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: Don't know if I am running ipv6 by myself
[11:53] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, no, I mean does your router somehow tunnel you through ipv6 or something ?
[11:53] <Jjohn> Slawek, stop repeating your question it is bad form
[11:53] <spiderfire> hello, are there any good linux games?
[11:53] <fiction> accept what?
[11:53] <fiction> FuLio, you have to restart. you cant install while the X server is running.
[11:53] <slawek> what to do to install update-manager 0.45.2?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:53] <denardo> Hi, all. I'm trying to run emacs (or emacs-snapshot-gtk, whichever works) but keel getting "No fonts match `Monospace-13'". Any clues?
[11:54] <FuLio> it isnt
[11:54] <slawek> how long i have to wait
[11:54] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, ok then edit your /etc/hosts file and comment out everything below that line where it says: "The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts"
[11:54] <slawek> i want to update online to 7.04
[11:54] <Ballena> spiderfire wolfenstein enemy territory
[11:54] <slawek> ;-(
[11:54] <MindSpark> just add a # in front of every line
[11:54] <FuLio> fiction; when i uncheckd the gdm thingy or something on the service?
[11:54] <walker> thoreauputic: Yeah figures. I've already read that page. A little more advanced than what I was looking for. I will refer to the forum. Thanks!
[11:54] <fiction> FuLio, yes. but since you havent checked it back, just restart. you will be taken to the same black screen as before
[11:55] <FuLio> fiction;ivr done that already lol
[11:55] <thoreauputic> slawek: you were already muted once - next time it will be a ban
[11:55] <SlimeyPe1e> spiderfire: Unreal Tournament & UT 2k4, the Quake games, the Doom games, Enemy Territory, Neverwinter Nights
[11:55] <fiction> FuLio, but you werent in your desktop
[11:55] <FuLio> fiction; i have just finish installing the new drivers now
[11:55] <fiction> FuLio, it installed?
[11:55] <gsymcps> hola
[11:55] <FuLio> fiction; yes sir
[11:55] <spiderfire> SlimeyPe1e: thanks slimy
[11:55] <FuLio> fiction; now it took me  back to the terminal agn
[11:55] <FuLio> startx right?
[11:55] <fiction> FuLio, weird. older drivers must not need you to close x server =] 
[11:56] <fiction> FuLio, press control alt backspace
[11:56] <fiction> and comeback
[11:56] <Jjohn> !es | gsymcps
[11:56] <ubotu> gsymcps: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:56] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: hm I commented out everything in hosts, than I tryed to start proftpd with command: proftpd and again error:  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'petelin.siol' error: No address associated with hostname
[11:56] <FuLio> im still at the terminal with the Desktop
[11:56] <spiderfire> what api do the linux games use
[11:56] <FuLio> how do i get out of that?
[11:56] <FuLio> fiction;im still at the terminal with the Desktop
[11:56] <FuLio> fiction;how do i get out of that?
[11:56] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: I also tryed to start proftpd with init.d: Starting ftp server: proftpd failed!
[11:56] <fiction> FuLio, are you talking from 2 computers?
[11:56] <SlimeyPe1e> spiderfire: opengl for graphics, usually
[11:56] <fiction> FuLio, to close the terminal, click the X on the top right of it...
[11:57] <FuLio> yes, im on my computer, and im install ubuntu on my laptop
[11:57] <SlimeyPe1e> spiderfire: quite a lot of games seem to use the SDL libraries
[11:57] <rausb0> spiderfire: there is no general API for games. but many games make use of the SDL library.
[11:57] <fiction> FuLio, okay.
[11:57] <fiction> FuLio, click the X
[11:57] <FuLio> fiction; im in a black screen with the terminal
[11:57] <fiction> FuLio, oohh
[11:57] <fiction> FuLio, type startx
[11:57] <denardo> Frustrating that I have to boot into Windoze to use emacs.
[11:57] <spiderfire> how come we dont see more opengl driven games for linux then
[11:57] <FuLio> fiction; do i force a reboot ?
[11:57] <fiction> nah
[11:58] <FuLio> fiction;k
[11:58] <fiction> FuLio, dont think so. just type restartx
[11:58] <fiction> FuLio, startx
[11:58] <fiction> not restart
[11:58] <thoreauputic> denardo: ? why not install xemacs21 on ubuntu ?
[11:58] <FuLio> fiction;i did it keeps bringing me back to the terminal.
[11:58] <denardo> thoreauputic: I'll try that
[11:58] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, ok, found it, in the /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf file change UseIPv6 to off
[11:58] <rausb0> spiderfire: openGL is not a API for games, it is a 3D gfx API. and SDL can use GL.
[11:58] <fiction> FuLio, any error messages?
[11:59] <FuLio> fiction; user@user-laptop:~/Desktop$
[11:59] <thoreauputic> !info xemacs21
[11:59] <ubotu> xemacs21: highly customizable text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 21.4.19-2 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:59] <FuLio> fiction; Fatal servers error: no screens found
[11:59] <thoreauputic> denardo: that's the metapackage, obviously
[11:59] <spiderfire> rausb0: do game have to make their own api then is what your saying??
[11:59] <fiction> alright FuLio install again
[11:59] <denardo> thoreauputic: apt-getting it now
[11:59] <thoreauputic> denardo: :)
[12:00] <fiction> sudo sh nv.run FuLio and at the end where it asks if you want nvidia to config your x server. say yes
[12:00] <rausb0> spiderfire: i say look into libSDL
[12:00] <fiction> FuLio, wait
[12:00] <fiction> FuLio, dont isntall again yet
[12:00] <spiderfire> oh
[12:00] <fiction> FuLio, type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:00] <FuLio> fiction; k
[12:00] <fiction> FuLio, and itll take you through the setup process
[12:01] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, got my last message ?
[12:01] <FuLio> fiction; then i do the sh nv.run?
[12:02] <fiction> FuLio, no
[12:02] <onats> has anyone been able to install asterisk on feisty successfully?
[12:02] <fiction> FuLio, did you go through the setup?
[12:02] <FuLio> fiction; what do i do next?
[12:03] <FuLio> yes
[12:03] <FuLio> fiction;yes
[12:03] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: no, but tnx for reminding me
[12:03] <fiction> FuLio, wjhew. i think this is it then, type startx
[12:03] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, looks like that
[12:03] <MindSpark> 's the problem
[12:03] <MindSpark> in the conf file
[12:03] <FuLio> ohh noes.
[12:03] <fiction> :(
[12:03] <fiction> what happened?
[12:04] <FuLio> fatal sever error
[12:04] <FuLio> no screens found
[12:04] <fiction> ok sudo sh nv.ruin
[12:04] <FuLio> failed to load the NVIDIA kernal module
[12:04] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: well looks like it works: couse after I make: proftpd, no errors but new line
[12:04] <denardo> thoreauputic: xemacs is working! Thanks.
[12:04] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, ok, now try to ftp to yourself
[12:04] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, maybe let Envy do the job for him?
[12:04] <thoreauputic> denardo: no problem :)
[12:04] <fiction> FuLio, sudo sh nv.run, if at the end it asks you if you want nvidia to config the x settings, click yes
[12:04] <bl00dfox> Hi all!
[12:04] <FuLio> fiction; ok
[12:05] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, heh, actually it does, I can connect to your ftp server
[12:05] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, if after this it doesnt work, then eys
[12:05] <bl00dfox> Just finished installing gutsy tribe 4
[12:05] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: hpw
[12:05] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: how can I do this in firefox
[12:05] <trekdanne> isn't emacs 22 in the repos?
[12:05] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> cause i was reading along now and then and it just doesnt seem to work
[12:05] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, ftp://username@ip
[12:05] <MindSpark> or ftp://username@hostname
[12:05] <FuLio> fiction; No matching precompiled kernel interface was found on  the nvidia ftp site; this means that the installer will need to compile a kernel interface for you kernel
[12:06] <Frogzoo> trekdanne: emacs 23 has nice antialiased fonts
[12:06] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> answer yes FuLio
[12:06] <t4m1n0> MindSpark Ok
[12:06] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> it has to build it
[12:06] <FuLio> k
[12:06] <t4m1n0> thanx, MindSpark
[12:06] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> you ned that module for the driver to work
[12:06] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> need*
[12:06] <bl00dfox> can someone help me install my ATI drivers please?
[12:06] <Frogzoo> trekdanne: "deb http://debs.peadrop.com feisty backports"
[12:06] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, np
[12:06] <fiction> FuLio, click yes
[12:07] <FuLio> fiction;i have.
[12:07] <fiction> FuLio, did it do it?
[12:07] <FuLio> fiction; its almost done. its like doing that loading stuff.
[12:07] <SoulChild> Hey all,... somehow my USB Devices do not get auotmounted anymore ???? PLEASE HELP
[12:07] <fiction> FuLio, did it do this last time?
[12:07] <trekdanne> Frogzoo: ah is the xft branch of emacs in that repo too?
[12:07] <FuLio> fiction; yes
[12:07] <fiction> FuLio, alright. let me know whenever it asks you a questiomn
[12:08] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: I try to conenct with username, but than it askes me for password an d I put my user password and it says login faild
[12:08] <FuLio> i typed in startx it wont go to my desktop, it just keeps going to a black screen with a terminal
[12:08] <FuLio> fiction;i typed in startx it wont go to my desktop, it just keeps going to a black screen with a terminal
[12:09] <fiction> FuLio, type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:09] <fiction> FuLio, and do the setup right =] 
[12:09] <Frogzoo> trekdanne: http://peadrop.com/blog/2007/01/06/pretty-emacs/
[12:09] <Znortfl> Hey Ubuntu people, I got a file with root ownership in my trash folder. How do I delete it?
[12:09] <SoulChild> Why can nobody help me ,.. it's such a simple problem
[12:10] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, you have to look through the configuration file, there is a part where you can allow users to login or deny them
[12:10] <SoulChild> Znortfl: sudo rm /home/yourname/.Trash/filename
[12:10] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> SoulChild, if its such a simple problem you would have fixed it already
[12:10] <hoopla> can anyone tell me where totem codecs are located at in feisty?
[12:10] <Znortfl> Thanks
[12:10] <fiction> SoulChild,
[12:10] <trekdanne> Frogzoo: thx
[12:10] <fiction> SoulChild, go to /etc/fstab with admin priviledge so you can edit the file
[12:10] <SoulChild> ok i did
[12:10] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: ok how can I stop proftpd if I need to
[12:11] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, /etc/init.d/proftpd stop
[12:11] <fiction> SoulChild, from there you should be able to figure it out
[12:11] <fiction> SoulChild, it will have "auto" or "noauto"
[12:11] <Jjohn> bloodfox, The ati drivers are in your package manager search for glx then select the xorg
[12:12] <SoulChild> fiction: hmm ,... can't see nothing wrong ,... i am talking about usb devices that are plugged in, do net get mounted automaticlly#
[12:12] <fiction> SoulChild, like mouse, keyboard etc?
[12:12] <HaYZaM> hi there , Searching for a video conferencing application ....
[12:12] <padavoine> fiction: mice and keyboards are not mounted
[12:12] <SoulChild> fiction: no like USB Storage card
[12:12] <padavoine> HaYZaM: is your webcam recognized already?
[12:13] <padavoine> SoulChild: do they appear in /dev/ ?
[12:13] <HaYZaM> not yet ..
[12:13] <padavoine> SoulChild: as in /dev/sda<number>
[12:13] <SoulChild> padavoine: yes
[12:13] <padavoine> HaYZaM: first work on that then, then there are a few available out there
[12:13] <fiction> SoulChild, then i don't know
[12:13] <HaYZaM> but i want to handle it for business , if under asterisk it will be amazing
[12:13] <padavoine> SoulChild: so it should be a simple matter of mounting them using sudo mount /dev/sda<number> /media/whereeveryouwantit
[12:13] <fiction> FuLio, yea?
[12:14] <FuLio> fiction; when i run the nvidia-xconfig, i get this: Using x configuration file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf  Back up file /etc/X11/xorg.conf   as backupfile   New x configurtaion file written to /etx/X11/xorg
[12:14] <padavoine> HaYZaM: well a lot of webcams just aren't supported
[12:14] <fiction> FuLio, alright
[12:14] <fiction> now try startx
[12:14] <MindSpark> HaYZaM, video4linux.org
[12:14] <padavoine> FuLio: that's normal, that's what it's supposed to do
[12:14] <SoulChild> padavoine: yes ,.. but the problem is ,.. if i mount them manually it works ,.. but gnome-volume-manager does not mount them
[12:14] <fiction> padavoine, you have no idea the trouble we're going through lol
[12:14] <Traveler_> I have a question.  Is it true that ubuntu will not run on a dual core chip?
[12:14] <FuLio> fiction; i typed in startx , Fatal error no screens found.
[12:14] <padavoine> SoulChild: add them to /Etc/fstab
[12:14] <padavoine> fiction: yeah sorry I'm butting it
[12:14] <padavoine> fiction: butting in*
[12:15] <fiction> padavoine, feel free
[12:15] <MindSpark> HaYZaM, sorry video4linux.net
[12:15] <padavoine> SoulChild: using the auto option they'll be mounted at startup
[12:15] <fiction> FuLio, type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:15] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, did he load the nvidia module yet?
[12:15] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> have to do that first
[12:15] <FuLio> fiction; k
[12:15] <SoulChild> padavoine: but they are not always connected ,... i want gnome to auto mount all devices ,...
[12:15] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, yes, he installed, went thrught he setup and all
[12:15] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> yes installed
[12:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> but you have to load it first
[12:16] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, then tell him how =) lol
[12:16] <padavoine> SoulChild: yeah i don't know if gnome handles that it's called hotplugging
[12:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, the installer doesnt load the module
[12:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio ?
[12:16] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, so how do you load the mod?
[12:16] <FuLio> yes
[12:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, exit nano
[12:16] <digitalspaghetti> Can someone help, i'm in dependancy hell.  I'm trying to install libquicktime1, which needs libfaad0, but when i try to install it, it says I need libfaad2-0.  When I try to install that, it says I need libfaad0....aarrrggg
[12:16] <FuLio> i did
[12:17] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, on the command line enter: sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:17] <padavoine> SoulChild: well don't know really, sorry. Most devices just work. What exactly is it, SD card?
[12:17] <fiction> digitalspaghetti, use synaptic, does it all for you
[12:17] <padavoine> digitalspaghetti: install using apt-get or packages?
[12:17] <SoulChild> padavoine: i tried with a SD Card and a USB Stick ,.. none work
[12:17] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> if that fails the setup failed
[12:17] <digitalspaghetti> fiction, padavoine tried both
[12:17] <SoulChild> padavoine: thanks anyway ,...
[12:17] <padavoine> SoulChild: welcome lol ^^
[12:17] <digitalspaghetti> i'm trying to install cinelerra, but I'm getting so many dependancy problems
[12:17] <defrysk> digitalspaghetti, otherwise try gdebi <package>
[12:17] <fiction> digitalspaghetti, try aptitude
[12:18] <digitalspaghetti> i am
[12:18] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, does it work?
[12:18] <digitalspaghetti> Score is -10022
[12:18] <fiction> are allowed to curse in here?
[12:18] <padavoine> digitalspaghetti: aptitude should install all dependencies automatically?
[12:18] <FuLio> what was the command agn?
[12:18] <digitalspaghetti> nope
[12:18] <fiction> aw
[12:18] <Traveler_> can someone tell me if ubuntu will run on computer with dual core pentium chip
[12:19] <padavoine> digitalspaghetti: yes it should... what's the exact command and the exact output
[12:19] <SlimeyPe1e> Traveler_: yes, it will
[12:19] <padavoine> Travel_: sure
[12:19] <fiction> Traveler_, i had a pentium D 80 which is dual core
[12:19] <digitalspaghetti> padavoine, shall i pm you as it's a lot
[12:19] <padavoine> digitalspaghetti: kay
[12:19] <fiction> and running on a quadcore now, didnt even have to reinstall when i got new motherboard and cpu
[12:19] <fiction> and ram
[12:19] <fiction> i was amazed lol
[12:19] <faileas> traveller: it should.
[12:19] <FuLio> fiction; it said Erro running install command for nvidia
[12:20] <Traveler_> ok thanks
[12:20] <fiction> FuLio, go back to nano
[12:20] <anto> Anyone here using MONO?
[12:20] <FuLio> k
[12:20] <fiction> FuLio, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:20] <FuLio> ;fiction;k
[12:20] <fiction> FuLio, scroll down to Section "Screen"
[12:21] <whyking_> which is the repository for gutsy gibbon universe? Can't find it
[12:21] <FuLio> fiction; k
[12:21] <fiction> FuLio, does it say nvidia int here?
[12:21] <FuLio> fiction; no
[12:22] <dgjones> !gutsy | whyking_
[12:22] <ubotu> whyking_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <fiction> FuLio, alright. scroll up to where it says Section "Device" and for driver, give the value of nv, so it should say Driver     "nv"
[12:23] <FuLio> k
[12:23] <anto> http://pastebin.com/m19275058
[12:23] <fiction> FuLio, startx
[12:23] <fiction> FuLio, save, then startx
[12:23] <anto> anyone got a suggestion?
[12:23] <usuario> holaa
[12:23] <FuLio> k
[12:23] <attunix> How do I get drivers for Airport wireless cards?
[12:23] <fiction> FuLio, are you in x now?
[12:23] <anto> attunix, you ask google
[12:23] <attunix> anto: I already did
[12:23] <FuLio> fiction; negative
[12:23] <Jjohn> es | usuario
[12:24] <fiction> FuLio, errors?
[12:24] <attunix> attunix: I'll ask again.
[12:24] <attunix> !es | usuario
[12:24] <FuLio> fiction; i got more errors this time
[12:24] <ubotu> usuario: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:24] <Jjohn> thx
[12:24] <attunix> Jjohn: you need an exclamation mark at the beginning. ;)
[12:24] <fiction> FuLio, under Section "Device", you had  Driver         "nvidia", correct?
[12:24] <FuLio> fiction; Failed to open framebuffer device; consult warnings and or errors abobe possible reasons. you may have to look at the server log to see warnings
[12:25] <Jjohn> attunix, Thanks I realised too late
[12:25] <anto> FuLio, to find out if you do type cat | grep Driver
[12:25] <attunix> Jjohn: 'welcome :)
[12:25] <FuLio> it was already there, till you told me to change it to nv
[12:25] <anto> FuLio, have you done anything to the restricted modules?
[12:25] <fiction> FuLio, no, under Section "Device"
[12:25] <attunix> Wow 1088 here.
[12:25] <fiction> FuLio,  you should have a line:   Driver         "nvidia"
[12:26] <fiction> FuLio, and you change "nvidia" to "nv"
[12:26] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> going for Envy now?
[12:26] <FuLio> ok i did
[12:26] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, yes, but im trying to get him into X first
[12:26] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> ah
[12:26] <fiction> FuLio, save that file
[12:26] <fiction> FuLio, i think its control and O
[12:26] <fiction> to save
[12:26] <anto> Can anyone help me with http://pastebin.com/m19275058 ??
[12:26] <FuLio> yea
[12:27] <FuLio> fiction; and exit?
[12:27] <fiction> FuLio, now type startx
[12:27] <fiction> control X
[12:27] <fiction> or control c
[12:27] <fiction> sometimes z....it confuses me
[12:27] <FuLio> it still didnt work.
[12:27] <fiction> startx didnt work?
[12:27] <FuLio> nope.
[12:27] <FuLio> =\
[12:27] <anto> FuLio, what dose it say
[12:27] <attunix> anto: maybe #mono will help
[12:27] <fiction> sudo nano ~/Desktop/
[12:27] <attunix> anto: what IS mono, anyway?
[12:27] <fiction> then type ls
[12:28] <FuLio> anto; it says Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel modle
[12:28] <attunix> fiction:  nano?
[12:28] <attunix> :S
[12:28] <anto> attunix,  i don't know how to explain but it runes and compiles C# programs
[12:28] <attunix> fiction: do you mean CD?
[12:28] <anto> FuLio, what driver are you trying to install?
[12:28] <FuLio> nvidia
[12:28] <fiction> attunix, yes
[12:28] <FuLio> fiction; i typed it in
[12:28] <attunix> anto: ok. Maybe #csharp or #cs are channels. You could check
[12:28] <fiction> attunix, its 6:30am ive been trying to sleep for a while. thanks for correcting
[12:29] <fiction> <- tired
[12:29] <attunix> fiction: then you're in the same time zone as me :S
[12:29] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> hehe
[12:29] <FuLio> fiction; i typed it in
[12:29] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> nice twilight sone story
[12:29] <fiction> attunix,  yea, its juuuuuuuuust a little too late to be up still
[12:29] <attunix> lol
[12:30] <attunix> anto: #csharp and #cs don't exist
[12:30] <fiction> FuLio, i meant cd, not nano. so cd ~/Desktop/
[12:30] <anto> attunix, Okej :( o well ill go over google again
[12:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, ask tseliot !! he's the video driver king :)
[12:30] <attunix> anto: Ask in #c
[12:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> The Envy-man :)
[12:30] <attunix> anto: maybe someone there will know
[12:30] <FuLio> fiction; ok
[12:30] <attunix> anto: poste your source code instead of results. That'll help ;)
[12:31] <attunix> *post
[12:31] <fiction> FuLio, install AGAIN lol
[12:31] <attunix> anto: join #c# - that's alive
[12:31] <fiction> FuLio, but pleeease make sure your settings are right. once it wouldnt load for me because i selected the wrong mouse
[12:32] <attunix> anto: #c# and #mono#
[12:32] <FuLio> fiction; k
[12:32] <fiction> FuLio, I am trying to get you back on to the X server so you can use envy to install your driver
[12:32] <FuLio> fiction; it says load failed on the buttom lefft.
[12:32] <Muppet-Boy> hi everyone, do i need to install drivers to use a travan ide tape drive on 6.06 LTS?? or will it just be recognised when its plugged in?
[12:32] <FuLio> but its still installing.
[12:33] <fiction> FuLio, no nano
[12:33] <fiction> FuLio, just sudo sh nv.run
[12:33] <mikubuntu> help... doing an alternate install of x on a presario.  the installer is telling me there's very little free space, so the install is going differently than the three i have done.  right now at partitioning, and it asking me to select from 4 choices, 1, is: SCSI1 (OOO) )sda) 8.5 bb ata st38421a; 2nd one is > #1 primary 8.4 gb b k fat32  /media/sda1 ... 3rd is : Unddo changes, and 4th is:...
[12:33] <mikubuntu> ...Finish partitioning and write to disk .. anybody tell me which one?  i'm guessing first or second op;tion?
[12:33] <FuLio> yea i did that
[12:33] <attunix> anto: did you go there?
[12:33] <fiction> type ls
[12:33] <fiction> do you see nv.run?
[12:34] <FuLio> yes
[12:34] <FuLio> i see it.
[12:34] <fiction> and sudo sh nv.run fails?
[12:34] <FuLio> when it says about the kernel
[12:34] <fiction> huh?
[12:35] <manager>  
[12:35] <dixon> Is there any way how to turn on DMA and 32bit transfer in feisty?
[12:35] <snegler> I'm having problems getting my fonts to look crisp in Feisty. I have installed the msttcorefonts package. My fonts either look blurred or too sharp. The problem is most annoying in Firefox, where some pages are almost unreadable. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[12:35] <FuLio> what if i change the nvidia to vesa so i can get back on the xserver.
[12:35] <FuLio> fiction;what if i change the nvidia to vesa so i can get back on the xserver.
[12:35] <attunix> !ru
[12:35] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> dixon man hdparm
[12:35] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:36] <attunix> !en
[12:36] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:36] <fiction> FuLio, yea that could work
[12:36] <FuLio> k hold on
[12:36] <attunix> !ru | manager
[12:36] <ubotu> manager: please see above
[12:36] <attunix> !ru | manager
[12:36] <ubotu> manager:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[12:37] <jeff_> hello
[12:37] <fiction> FuLio, was there ever a menu where you had to scroll down through some options, and some options were 'nv', 'vesa', 'nvidia', etc?
[12:37] <attunix> Hi.
[12:37] <FuLio> yes
[12:37] <unomystEz> hi all, I'm trying to apt-get install a package and it's asking me to insert the CD, how can I have it fetch it via the Internet?
[12:37] <dixon> TheimonCoffeeAfk: it's not working in feisty :( cause the developers thought it's better to show all devices as sata. Now everytime I run hdparm I got an error  - HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device. On ubuntuforums there're a lot unanswered threads :(
[12:37] <fiction> FuLio, and what did you select?
[12:37] <mikubuntu> please, anyone have a clue what choice i make on this partition?
[12:37] <FuLio> fiction; it was on nvidia, i hcanged it back to vesa so i can get into the xserver
[12:37] <dixon> TheimonCoffeeAfk: it's not working in feisty :( cause the developers thought it's better to show all devices as sata. Now everytime I run hdparm I got an error  - HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device. On ubuntuforums there're a lot unanswered threads :(
[12:37] <fiction> FuLio, but i think you actually need to select 'nv'
[12:37] <fiction> !nvidia
[12:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:37] <fiction> letme go read
[12:38] <FuLio> fiction; are you sure?
[12:38] <jeff_> Could anyone tell me the average time for a dosfsck -f on an 80gb external hd?
[12:38] <fiction> FuLio, for older nvidia cards, i think the installation guide said to select nv
[12:38] <fiction> FuLio, i could be wrong, i am checking now
[12:38] <jeff_> right now it's been running for almost 5.5 hours
[12:39] <Sevk> HELP
[12:39] <Sevk> *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61.
[12:39] <Sevk> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53 or 2.54
[12:40] <fiction> FuLio, cant find where it says that. nvm then. are you back on x?
[12:40] <FuLio> no yet
[12:41] <FuLio> fiction; ok now i am
[12:41] <fiction> FuLio, are you on kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:41] <FuLio> ubuntu'
[12:41] <fiction> alrighty
[12:41] <FuLio> yay
[12:41] <FuLio> lol
[12:41] <fiction> !envy
[12:41] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:41] <FuLio> Hey im sorry for keeping you up
[12:42] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> with Envy you should be done in a few minutes
[12:42] <fiction> FuLio, no worries. if we dont solve this itll bother me and ill sleep bad =[
[12:42] <fiction> FuLio, open synaptic
[12:42] <FuLio> fictioll its open
[12:42] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, envy is not in the repos
[12:42] <allbert> !rss
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> i asked tseliot yesterday on the forums
[12:43] <usamahashimi> Hello Everyone!
[12:43] <allbert> !rss firefox
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <manager> 
[12:43] <FuLio> fiction; its open
[12:43] <usamahashimi> Is there any site which can check the security status of my system and present recommendations?
[12:44] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, get envy here: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[12:44] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, then why the heck would the irc channel have info on it lol?
[12:44] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> usamahashimi, www.grc.com --> port check
[12:44] <fiction> FuLio, ok hold on. i have to find envy's website
[12:44] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> just gave the link fiction :)
[12:44] <FuLio> fiction; k
[12:44] <thoreauputic> !envy
[12:44] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:45] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, i asked tseliot yesterday on forums, maybe he'll build a repo in the future but for now you have to get it from the site
[12:45] <mikubuntu> ummmm.... stuck again... the total harddrive on this is 8.5.  partitioner is asking me for new partition size, and by default has filled in8.5, but gives me the *hint* to use '20%' or use 'max' as shortcut for max allowed size?
[12:45] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> [12:43:49]  <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, get envy here: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[12:45] <blazemonger> i recently got a dell c640 latitude with 512 mb of memory and i  paid $700 for it
[12:45] <blazemonger> a p4
[12:45] <SoulChild> hey when starting gparted i get: Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy. hal-storage-fixed-mount refudes to uid 10000
[12:45] <blazemonger> with a radeon 7000 mobility
[12:46] <blazemonger> and i cant get the wi-fi drivers working and the place i got it from only knows windows
[12:46] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> SoulChild, run gparted as root
[12:46] <blazemonger> btw port ubuntu to the amiga
[12:46] <blazemonger> so i can buy a amiga agtain
[12:46] <fiction> FuLio, http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.7-0ubuntu7_all.deb
[12:46] <SoulChild> TheimonCoffeeAfk: i get the same error only with UID 1000
[12:46] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, alrighty then
[12:46] <blazemonger> lmm
[12:47] <fiction> I have never used Envy thougjh. so i dont know how much help ill be from here on
[12:47] <blazemonger> http://www.coopersystems.com/specials.htm which of these systems will work with ubuntu
[12:47] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, i used it a few times on previous installs
[12:47] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> it cant go wrong
[12:47] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, do you think it would work if he installed it the 6.10 way? like listed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:47] <blazemonger> something under 500 preferably
[12:47] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, then help him out and ill pay attention for next time heeh
[12:47] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, hold on lemme look
[12:48] <spiderfire> anyone know how i can have a menu style folder that pops up on the taskbar in gnome?
[12:48] <FuLio> fiction; you want me to download that?
[12:48] <fiction> blazemonger, i had the one for $699 and it worked
[12:48] <fiction> FuLio, yes, its envy
[12:48] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, thats not much different from the methods we explained to him now
[12:48] <blazemonger> it worked fiction?
[12:48] <blazemonger> is that a good deal?
[12:48] <unomystEz> does anyone know why apt-get install 'pkgname' asks for the CDROM?
[12:49] <unomystEz> can't it just retrieve it over the internet?
[12:49] <blazemonger> the only reason is the ppl that run that place give free at home support
[12:49] <Happu> unomystEz: CD is in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:49] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> unomystEz, because you probably got cdrom in the sources.list
[12:49] <fiction> blazemonger, i suppose. worked fine. only difference is i used a 6600gt nvidia card on it
[12:49] <unomystEz> ah, thank you!
[12:49] <blazemonger> so its not that bad of a deal?
[12:49] <server_> #awali
[12:49] <mikubuntu> is there please anyone to help me through this install, it's very different from the last three i did and i really need help
[12:49] <blazemonger> i only have $500 on me
[12:50] <blazemonger> i have a d865perl mobo with 768mb of memory and ubuntu runs SLOW on this 2.4ghz processor
[12:50] <blazemonger> i even tried fluxbuntu and firefox takes 5 minutes to load
[12:50] <FuLio> fiction; you want me to save it or open?
[12:50] <blazemonger> myu computer is a piece of crap
[12:50] <fiction> FuLio, save
[12:51] <fiction> blazemonger, then the one for $699 should be solid.
[12:51] <blazemonger> i dont know much about PC's
[12:51] <FuLio> fiction; k done.
[12:51] <fiction> FuLio, double click it
[12:51] <blazemonger> i wonder how much a d865perl motherboard would sell for so i can buy that setup
[12:51] <FuLio> fiction; install package?
[12:51] <blazemonger> its refurbished but still it's a working system
[12:51] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> yes
[12:51] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, yes
[12:51] <FuLio> coffee; yes?
[12:51] <FuLio> k
[12:52] <fiction> yess
[12:52] <mikubuntu> partitioner is telling me that no root file system has been created, and to go back and do it, but i'm lost.
[12:52] <blazemonger> i tried to enable dma mode on my current desktop system and ubuntu gives me a error
[12:52] <blazemonger> its a IDE drive
[12:52] <blazemonger> on a motherboard that's a SATA mobo
[12:53] <FuLio> fiction; its done.
[12:53] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, doesnt matter if the mobo is sata, it has to have IDE ports to for the HDD to work
[12:53] <blazemonger> well why wont DMA mode work on my system?
[12:53] <blazemonger> im new to PC's
[12:53] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, is it enabled in BIOS?
[12:53] <blazemonger> ive spent 4 months trying to get this system i built to work properly
[12:53] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, run envy
[12:54] <fiction> FuLio, now in yuor menu you should see under System Tools
[12:54] <blazemonger> it doesnt have a option to enable dma mode on the drive
[12:54] <FuLio> Coffee. i've installed it
[12:54] <blazemonger> maybe i need to try to flash the bios
[12:54] <uluru> I have loaded and run ubuntu from a usb, no probs, but I'd like to write to a directory on that vfat partition.  Unfortunately sda1 is mounted under /cdrom and the system won't let me change permissions on a ro filesystem.  /cdrom doesn't appear in fstab.  Any gurus out there? :)
[12:54] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> could be blazemonger
[12:54] <blazemonger> but knowing my luck with PC's so far  it will prob break things worse
[12:54] <FuLio> fiction; what am i looking for under system?
[12:54] <blazemonger> so far ive gone through 3 motherboards trying to build a PC that will even start up
[12:54] <blazemonger> i fried 3 of them
[12:54] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, if you dont know what to do for bios flashing......DONT DO IT
[12:55] <blazemonger> and i fried 3 video cards
[12:55] <fiction> blazemonger, that pc i told you i have will work good. windows runs fine on it too
[12:55] <fiction> FuLio, no
[12:55] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, system tools --> envy
[12:55] <boomh4u3r> I have the amd64 version and the regular version of ubuntu and xp on this machine
[12:55] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, or open a terminal and enter: envy
[12:55] <fiction> FuLio, System Tools. Its a menu option (like graphics, sound, games, etc)
[12:55] <blazemonger> well the bios flashing in the manual of the motherboard says thyat it will enable dma mode
[12:55] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> errr
[12:55] <blazemonger> on my old ide drive
[12:55] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> sudo envy that is FuLio
[12:55] <FuLio> fiction; k
[12:55] <Goblin> Wo tut???
[12:55] <boomh4u3r> i want to get rid of all 3 and just install the regular version of ubuntu on here
[12:55] <blazemonger> recently i tried to install a nvidia card and the system wouldnt boot
[12:56] <fiction> blazemonger, on win or linux?
[12:56] <blazemonger> and found out i fried the card
[12:56] <blazemonger> im using gnewsense3
[12:56] <FuLio> fiction; which one do i click "install the NVIDIA driver" or "install The NVIDIA driver manually"
[12:56] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, you fried it? nice job, thats hard to accomplish
[12:56] <SlimeyPe1e> boomh4u3r: you can tell the installer to wipe the disk, IIRC
[12:56] <blazemonger> well im new to PC's
[12:56] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, install nvidia driver
[12:56] <blazemonger> ive spent 4 months trying to build my own system
[12:56] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> its automated
[12:56] <SlimeyPe1e> blazemonger: breaking them is half the fun
[12:56] <FuLio> coffee; ok.
[12:57] <joe_> hey
[12:57] <blazemonger> well not when you have limited income
[12:57] <fiction> FuLio, TheimonCoffeeAfk can help better than i. i have not used envy and he has. but here's a link you might find helpful after both of us leave: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[12:57] <FuLio> ok
[12:57] <fiction> FuLio, do you know how to do tab completion here?
[12:57] <blazemonger> i had a amiga 4000 with 68060 40mhz that recently fried 5 months ago
[12:57] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, i already gave that link some minutes ago :)
[12:57] <FuLio> nope.
[12:57] <blazemonger> then again the amiga came right out of the box
[12:57] <blazemonger> i thought i would try to build my own PC
[12:57] <fiction> FuLio, type fi and press tab, here on irc
[12:57] <blazemonger> but i've fried 3 motherboards
[12:57] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, oh okay
[12:58] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> :)
[12:58] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> didnt get noticed
[12:58] <blazemonger> thankfully i didnt pay for them they came out of spare parts bins
[12:58] <s0y> how are you frying these parts?
[12:58] <SlimeyPe1e> blazemonger: easy to do when you're just beginning
[12:58] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, how about doing some research before going about building a system?
[12:58] <fiction> FuLio, type the first few letters of a person's name, and then press tab. it will select it for you. much easier
[12:58] <blazemonger> but 4 months try ing to get a PC to function like it sh ould is a nightmare
[12:58] <fiction> lol. i see him writing "coffee" so i thougth he may not now
[12:58] <kauer> I'd like to know how to create a new staff in noteedit... any takers?
[12:58] <joe_> i recently set up a server with the ubuntu server cd now i installed the ubuntu desktop and when i start it i can hear the sound of the login screen but i have no screen?
[12:58] <blazemonger> and then the drivers
[12:58] <FuLio> asb002
[12:58] <FuLio> ohh
[12:58] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, lol indeed
[12:58] <FuLio> lol
[12:58] <fiction> lol
[12:59] <FuLio> awesome
[12:59] <blazemonger> im having pc migration nightmares
[12:59] <FuLio> i just copy and pass
[12:59] <FuLio> past*
[12:59] <joe_> can anyone help ?
[12:59] <fiction> blazemonger, yes. try that pc i showed yuo. i had it and it worked  fine for me.
[12:59] <Lidergt> witam
[12:59] <fiction> haha
[12:59] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; that was AWESOME!!!!
[12:59] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, what?
[12:59] <FuLio> fiction ; cool bean
[12:59] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> the install?
[12:59] <blazemonger> fiction: yah and it will prob save me money on pc parts
[12:59] <FuLio> no, the tab thingy
[12:59] <kauer> also, I'm looking for a simple musical notation editor for Linux (I already know about denemo, noteedit, rosegarden and canorus)
[12:59] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> hmmm\
[12:59] <FuLio> i dont have to copy and paste.
[12:59] <joe_> anyone ?
[12:59] <FuLio> lol
[12:59] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> just some small IRC thingy :)
[01:00] <fiction> blazemonger, yes.
[01:00] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> joe_, no clue here
[01:00] <blazemonger> fiction: will it do midi seqquencing?
[01:00] <samir> anyone from brazil?
[01:00] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; its almost done i believe.
[01:00] <fiction> blazemonger, what prog do you use for that?
[01:00] <blazemonger> i just need a system i can use the video toaster that i used with my amiga
[01:00] <blazemonger> well on the amiga i used bars and pipes
[01:00] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, when its done it'll give you a notice i believe
[01:01] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; alright.
[01:01] <blazemonger> with the video toaster i used my amiga to do video mixing at raves
[01:01] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; will this fix everythihng?
[01:01] <fiction> blazemonger, i have no idea cause ive never done it. But, that with my 6600gt nvidia card, i could play battlefield 2 and counterstrike source fine
[01:01] <tom17bombadil> joe_: some more info?
[01:01] <fiction> blazemonger, the machine can handle it
[01:01] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, lets hope so
[01:01] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; <3
[01:01] <uluru> joe_, could be the settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:01] <fiction> FuLio, and TheimonCoffeeAfk , its 7am, i have to sleep lol. have stuff to do today
[01:01] <blazemonger> fiction: there's a program that does midi sequencing in ubuntu?
[01:01] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> sire fiction
[01:01] <fiction> actually, i wanna see if this works for fulio. ill wait a little longer
[01:01] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> sure*
[01:02] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> ok :)
[01:02] <fiction> blazemonger, i have no idea? probably
[01:02] <blazemonger> cuz all i need is a very simple midi sequencer
[01:02] <kauer> blazemonger: rosegarden
[01:02] <FuLio> fiction; ok gnight cya later on lol, hey sleep wel , and THANKYOU for helping me alot today.
[01:02] <joe_> i checked that file but i wouldnt know
[01:02] <kauer> blazemonger: Also noteedit, sort of.
[01:02] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> hi suupaabaka
[01:02] <fiction> FuLio, no prob. are you almost done though? i kinda wanna see if it works
[01:02] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; its asking me " DO YOU WANT YOUR XORG.CONF TO BE AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURE?"
[01:02] <blazemonger> kauer; anything to sequence midi data is fine with me
[01:02] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> YES
[01:02] <joe_> im fairly new to this its my first server and i cant give more info thats all thats happening
[01:02] <suupaabaka> I don't think I can go back to Windows. :P
[01:02] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, yes yes yes!!
[01:02] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> :)
[01:03] <blazemonger> it doesnt have to be fancy or anything just as long as i can sequence i'm in business
[01:03] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk;ok it restarted my laptop
[01:03] <fiction> blazemonger, http://www.jazzware.com/zope is that what yuore talking about?
[01:03] <kauer> blazemonger: rosegarden is available as an ubuntu package, but I'm not sure it's what you'd call "simple".
[01:03] <blazemonger> cuz i've missed gigs over my amiga frying
[01:03] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, the moment of truth is nigh!
[01:03] <fiction> alright guys, moment of truth. this will tell us iif the last 3 hours of our lives was a total waste or not
[01:03] <blazemonger> yes
[01:03] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> fiction, can we have a drumroll plz?!
[01:04] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> lol
[01:04] <fiction> blazemonger, click on screenshots.
[01:04] <thoreauputic> ************ <- visual drumroll
[01:04] <fiction> blazemonger, and make sure
[01:04] <uluru> joe_, http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_and_configure_xorg
[01:04] <blazemonger> more like this interface
[01:04] <ubuntu> /leave
[01:04] <blazemonger> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/4753/barspipes.gif
[01:04] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: try /part
[01:04] <blazemonger> something with a interface like that
[01:05] <fiction> blazemonger,  look: http://sound.condorow.net/midi.html a whole list
[01:05] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; i think
[01:05] <fiction> what does a midi sequencer do anyways. make midis? lol
[01:05] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> you think?
[01:05] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; we got more errors =X
[01:06] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, like what?
[01:06] <blazemonger> fiction;No.. obviously youre not a xtc popping raver :)
[01:06] <fiction> blazemonger, apparently not =] 
[01:06] <blazemonger> my amiga 4000 made me enough to pop xtc tabz
[01:06] <blazemonger> :)
[01:07] <fiction> look @ the list i gave you though
[01:07] <fiction> tons of progs
[01:07] <blazemonger> i had that baby souped up and it lasted 10 years
[01:07] <suupaabaka> I was wondering... are there any security concerns with Ubuntu? Hacking, keyloggers, that sort of thing?
[01:07] <Smegzor> I can vnc into my file server (ubuntu 7.04) when I am already logged into it locally, but I can't get a connection when nobody is logged in.  Is there a guide for newbies I can follow which will enable this?
[01:07] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; the interrupt for nvidia graphics device pci 0 5 0 appears to be edge triggered. please see chapter 8 common problems in the readme for additional informaiotn./
[01:07] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; failed to initialize the nvidia graphics device
[01:07] <fiction> bust open chapter 8
[01:07] <blazemonger> well the one with the interface i like the best is seq-24
[01:08] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> maybe the card gets recognized on the wrong pci slot
[01:08] <mikubuntu> i back. can someone help me to get through this partitioning please.  system is doing a 'light' installation because it said there was relatively little free space.  i don't care about saving any data on this computer i got it out of the garbage, just want to wipe it out and get x running.
[01:08] <blazemonger> cuz how much processing power is really used when only sequencing midi data
[01:08] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, follow the advice the error gave you
[01:08] <fiction> not alot blazemonger
[01:08] <fiction> what is midi sequencing?
[01:08] <FuLio> can soomeone pass me the website to it please.
[01:08] <blazemonger> fiction: youre right..if a atari st can sequence midi
[01:09] <blazemonger> it's a way of musical instruments can send data back and forth :)
[01:09] <blazemonger> like my retrofitted korg poly 61 synth
[01:09] <fiction> ohh okay
[01:09] <fiction> its bright and birds are chirping outside.i have to sleep.
[01:10] <blazemonger> i have a studio and the only thing missing is the *working* computer to sequence
[01:10] <fiction> gotcha im going to sleep though
[01:10] <blazemonger> thanks fiction
[01:10] <fiction> TheimonCoffeeAfk, FuLio good luck. hopefully ill see you 2 here again :)
[01:10] <fiction> bye blazemonger
[01:10] <arn_> hi, i have a "soap" moduled installed, how can i delete that?
[01:11] <blazemonger> if i could get dma to work on my current computer's hard drive id be in business
[01:11] <blazemonger> is there a operating system available that is just FOR midi sequencing
[01:11] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> ubuntustudio?
[01:12] <blazemonger> well who sells computers pre-built WITH ubuntustudio
[01:12] <FuLio> can soomeone pass me the website to it please.
[01:12] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, website to what?
[01:12] <FuLio> the chapter 8
[01:12] <FuLio> thingy.
[01:13] <joe_> it tells me screens found but none have a usable configuration
[01:13] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/index.html <-------- chapter 8 of that FuLio
[01:13] <SettlerX> hey
[01:13] <rfdparker2002> hello, does anyone know if there will be an update to the evms package on gutsy anytime soon to fix bug #115616? as on my laptop i have to kill udevd every time I boot i otherwise the CD/DVD Drive continuously scan itself and of course i get the dm-linear lookup failed managed failed (yeah i do realise gutsy is a dev release)
[01:13] <SettlerX> I have a problem during booting xubuntu from CD for installation
[01:13] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk ; ty
[01:14] <Pici> rfdparker2002: Gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1 please.
[01:14] <blazemonger> i have a p4 2.4ghz desktop d865perl and two 40 gig ide drives
[01:14] <blazemonger> and xubuntu is SLOW as hell
[01:14] <rfdparker2002> kk thnnx
[01:14] <mikubuntu> TheimonCoffeeAfk: can you please tell me how to figure out this partition, been going all nite, but i gotta finish this
[01:14] <SettlerX> http://phpfi.com/256578
[01:14] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> mikubuntu, whats wrong?
[01:14] <iCEifer> I am having trouble installing the nvidia drivers. when I run it it says that I am running "level 1" and not "level 3".  if I continue it says I need to install libc for my distro? any ideas?
[01:14] <aa^way> hey, with  mencodec, what would be parameter to connect two videos to one
[01:15] <iCEifer> I am running the .run file under ubuntu's recovery mode
[01:15] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, install the libc6 libc6-dev package
[01:15] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, do not run it under single user mode!
[01:15] <blazemonger> hoqw do i force xubuntu or ubuntu whatever distro to FORCE dma mode on my hd
[01:15] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; If possible, configure your system such that your graphics card does not share its IRQ with other devices (try moving the graphics card to another slot if applicable, unload/disable the driver(s) for the device(s) sharing the card's IRQ, or remove/disable the device(s)).
[01:15] <SettlerX> Why can't I boot Xubuntu? 256 MB RAM, Athlon XP 2000+...
[01:15] <iCEifer> Theimon: how should I run it?
[01:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, boot your system as normal, and from there go to a tty
[01:16] <mikubuntu> TheimonCoffeeAfk: i am doing alternate install cd on an old compaq with a 'full' 8.5 harddrive,,, i am at the partioner and i keep getting loooped back.  says i have not set up a root file.
[01:16] <blueStar> hello
[01:16] <rausb0> blazemonger: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[01:16] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, then kill gdm by /sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:16] <SettlerX> I recorded CD with speed 32x. Can it be the reason?
[01:17] <iCEifer> Theimon: my package manager shows libc6 is already installed. when I tried to boot normally I get the error that I am running an X server. so the kill command will stop that error?
[01:17] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> mikubuntu, be sure to sweep the partitions, otherwise theres no room to install the new files
[01:17] <blueStar> Hello, how do I add a /bin to PATH, so it will be from startup?
[01:17] <Tiggzz> hiya peeps
[01:17] <SlimeyPe1e> SettlerX: are you getting an error message?
[01:17] <mikubuntu> help... doing an alternate install of x on a presario.  the installer is telling me there's very little free space, so the install is going differently than the three i have done.  right now at partitioning, and it asking me to select from 4 choices, 1, is: SCSI1 (OOO) )sda) 8.5 bb ata st38421a; 2nd one is > #1 primary 8.4 gb b k fat32  /media/sda1 ... 3rd is : Unddo changes, and 4th is:...
[01:17] <mikubuntu> ...Finish partitioning and write to disk .. anybody tell me which one?  i'm guessing first or second op;tion?
[01:17] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, can you enter at the command line: lspci
[01:17] <SettlerX> SlimeyPe1e: http://phpfi.com/256578
[01:17] <mikubuntu> shoot, disregard that last
[01:17] <joe_> it tells me screens found but none have a usable configuration
[01:18] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> joe_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:18] <blazemonger>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[01:18] <blazemonger>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:18] <mikubuntu> TheimonCoffeeAfk: i don't know ezackly what you mean by sweep.  let me describe the page i'm looking at
[01:19] <blazemonger> how do i force this dma mode tweak to work
[01:19] <blazemonger> folks: i know theres a few PC gurus here
[01:20] <joe_> thank u , but how do i know what driver to pick ?
[01:20] <boomh4u3r> how do you tab nics?
[01:20] <Tiggzz> I'm after a bit of guidance, I have fiesty on at he mo on a 80gb drive. After further readys I  see it is advisary to install put home on a seperate partition. Well I'm just about to change motherboard, chip and gpx card in this machine. Gpx is going from nvidia to ATI. Would a re-install be recommended?
[01:20] <blazemonger> how do i force DMA mode on my ide drive in xubunt feisty
[01:20] <boris_> how do i restart X server (xorg)
[01:20] <NForc3r> hey guy
[01:20] <NForc3r> guys
[01:20] <blazemonger> so i wont have to buy a whole new computer system
[01:20] <Pici> boris_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:20] <SlimeyPe1e> SettlerX: HP Pavilion notebook?
[01:20] <NForc3r> can u help with sum random crash i keep getting with linux
[01:20] <blazemonger>  Timing cached reads:   1026 MB in  2.00 seconds = 512.48 MB/sec
[01:20] <blazemonger>  Timing buffered disk reads:    2 MB in  5.46 seconds = 374.87 kB/sec
[01:20] <Davy_Jones> borg_: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:20] <mikubuntu> has four lines, first line is : SCSI1 (000) -8.5 GB ATA st38421a,   next line is: >d  #1 primary 8.4 GB  K fat32  /media/sda1
[01:20] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> boomh4u3r, enter the first few letters of a name and hit <tab>
[01:21] <SettlerX> SlimeyPe1e: no, it's a desktop computer
[01:21] <SlimeyPe1e> hrm
[01:21] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; i give up..
[01:21] <joe_> how do i know what driver to pick ?
[01:21] <SettlerX> Would you like to know disk, etc.\?
[01:21] <rausb0> blazemonger: is the really a ide controller or a sata controller in ide compatibility mode?
[01:21] <boomh4u3r> TheimonCoffeeAfk: oh finally someone helped me thank you
[01:21] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> boomh4u3r, np
[01:21] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, what is the result of lspci?
[01:21] <Tiggzz> ALso the other question is if I install dual boot with xp on another drive altogether, can I re-install xp and still have the dual bot?
[01:21] <mikubuntu> third option is: undo changes to partitions, and lastly: finish partitioning, but that don't work cuz says i don't have a root file sys
[01:22] <SlimeyPe1e> SettlerX: not sure then. Try burning at a lower speed, but Google suggests that this is generally a hardware problem - i.e. the Ubuntu liveCD doesn't like your drive or motherboard
[01:22] <NForc3r> im running ubuntu 100% fine (relatively) with my 8800gts on a crap reso and all. i update ubuntu, everything is fine then i go and add the restricted drivers and install the nvidia driver.
[01:22] <blazemonger> god im hating this system i built
[01:22] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Tiggzz, a windows reinstall will wreck grub
[01:22] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; to much info.
[01:22] <boomh4u3r> my problem...2 versions of linux and xp...i just want one version of linux...Format my hard drives and fresh install?
[01:22] <SettlerX> If i download Ubuntu instead of Xubuntu, may this problem disappear?
[01:22] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, lspci|grep VGA
[01:22] <bullgard4> What does pts/0 stand for in the output of the command who?
[01:22] <Davy_Jones> !grub | Tiggzz
[01:22] <ubotu> Tiggzz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:22] <blazemonger> how do i force the dma mode tweak to work
[01:22] <blazemonger> my system it takes 5 minutes to load firefox
[01:22] <rausb0> blazemonger: if it is sata in ide comp. mode, dma cannot be turned on
[01:23] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, searched google yet?
[01:23] <Tiggzz> TheimonCoffeeAfk, ok, I'll do windows bare first, then ubu then sort xp out yeah?
[01:23] <blazemonger> rausb0: so im fucked?
[01:23] <blazemonger> oops sorry for language im frustrated from spending 4 months trying to get my system i built working properly
[01:23] <mikubuntu> TheimonCoffeeAfk: can you tell me how to proceed with those choices?  i'm lost.
[01:23] <Davy_Jones> Tiggzz: install windows xp then ubuntu
[01:23] <Tiggzz> cheers Davy_Jones
[01:23] <NForc3r> then it happens, when i load my computer up ubuntu is starting and just before the log on screen it crashes and send me to terminal saying sumthing about X server or sumthing and telling me to configure a file and restart gdm
[01:23] <blazemonger> how do i FORCE it though there has to be a tweak
[01:23] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; 00:05. VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[01:23] <SlimeyPe1e> SettlerX: probably not
[01:23] <NForc3r> any ideas?
[01:23] <NForc3r> ???
[01:24] <blazemonger> so i can load  xubuntu quicker than 3 minutes
[01:24] <rausb0> blazemonger: look in the bios settings and see if you can switch the controller to sata or native mode
[01:24] <SlimeyPe1e> SettlerX: looks like there was a bug in Dapper and pre-release Edgy. Are you using Feisty?
[01:24] <NForc3r> ?
[01:24] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> boomh4u3r, format the linux partition you want to get rid of.....edit menu.lst to not show the deleted linux anymore and clean out the appropriate images from /boot
[01:24] <Davy_Jones> Tiggzz: if you HAVE to install windows xp after ubuntu, follow the instructions ubotu gave you
[01:24] <blazemonger> it doesnt have that option
[01:24] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; these are are the problems i have EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to
[01:24] <FuLio> (EE) NVIDIA(0):      be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics
[01:24] <FuLio> (EE) NVIDIA(0):      device PCI:x:x:x. Please see the COMMON PROBLEMS
[01:24] <FuLio> (EE) NVIDIA(0):      section in the README for additional information
[01:24] <blazemonger> rausb0 : i built this system from scratch
[01:24] <rausb0> blazemonger: then i don't know, sorry
[01:24] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; its on this site http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/chapter-08.html
[01:24] <blazemonger> man im new to PC's i come from Amiga land
[01:24] <NForc3r> thanx
[01:25] <NForc3r> ill have a look
[01:25] <blazemonger> and ive fried 3 motherboards and a few video cards trying to get a PC to even boot
[01:25] <boomh4u3r> TheimonCoffeeAfk: I'm not sure where the version of linux i want gone installed to.
[01:25] <blazemonger> prob is when i run a distro from CD thigns work fine
[01:25] <alloosh> hello all, I installed kubuntu desktp yesterday, and now I cant use my computer, please help
[01:25] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check in the device section if the PCI entry shows you the same number as from lspci
[01:25] <blazemonger> but my hard drive is going the speed of a single speed cd rom drive
[01:25] <boomh4u3r> TheimonCoffeeAfk: i just got ubuntu yesterday so i'm the definaition of n00b
[01:25] <iCEifer> Theimon: I tried the kill command and it worked but after "booting local scripts [OK] " it just hangs there?
[01:25] <SettlerX> How can i check if i burned CD correctly?
[01:25] <rausb0> blazemonger: why don't you just buy a ready built pc?
[01:25] <Pici> !md5 | SettlerX
[01:25] <ubotu> SettlerX: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:25] <blazemonger> i dont know which ones will work with non-proprietary drivers
[01:26] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> boomh4u3r, you have to find that out first, otherwise you can't delete the right linux
[01:26] <rausb0> blazemonger: oh okay
[01:26] <Tiggzz> Davy_Jones, I can do it either way really. I guess I need to re-install both I'll just get xp on, then leave it, put ubu on the mess with xp as required
[01:26] <blazemonger> http://www.coopersystems.com/specials.htm these are my system choices rausb0
[01:26] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, not sure what you mean now
[01:26] <blazemonger> i want the cheapest cuz im low on cash right now
[01:26] <Tiggzz> Davy_Jones, I guess ubu won't like a new mobo cpu, and gpx without a re-install?
[01:26] <blazemonger> from missing a few gigs
[01:26] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Tiggzz, you'd be surprised
[01:26] <blazemonger> when my amiga fried my rave career has been gone
[01:26] <SettlerX> Pci: however, should I check Md5 of the CD's content and compare it with .iso Md5?
[01:27] <NForc3r> hey guys
[01:27] <NForc3r> how do i get to
[01:27] <NForc3r> NVreg_RMEdgeIntrCheck
[01:27] <iCEifer> TheimonCoffeeAfk: I did sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and it killed the X server. went to a screen where it started a buncha commands and after "Booting local scripts [OK] " it just waits.
[01:27] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Tiggzz, but with new hardware a fresh install is always best
[01:27] <NForc3r> ive got to change something in there
[01:27] <NForc3r> from 1 to 0
[01:27] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, first fully boot up your system
[01:27] <Pici> SettlerX: I believe that the installer does its own md5 check when it starts.
[01:27] <blazemonger> which of those will work with ubuntu that arent pricey
[01:27] <Tiggzz> TheimonCoffeeAfk, with my complete noob experiance, I figure, it would be less hassle?
[01:27] <iCEifer> TheimonCoffeeAfk: I did. and boot into Gnome right?
[01:27] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, fully boot the system, then let me know when it's done
[01:28] <Tiggzz> TheimonCoffeeAfk, plus I think I would prefer to have home on a diff part as recommended
[01:28] <blazemonger> so you mean if i have a IDE drive and a SATA mobo DMA MODe cant be enabled !?!?!?!?!
[01:28] <rausb0> blazemonger: try booting the kernel with paramters hda=noprobe hdb=noprobe hdc=noprobe hdd=noprobe  (at the grub boot prompt)
[01:28] <NForc3r> ?
[01:28] <blazemonger> why didnt anyone tell me that
[01:28] <iCEifer> TheimonCoffeeAfk: I just fully booted and started my IRC client in Gnome
[01:28] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Tiggzz, you can leave the ubuntu in tact if you want, thats easier....but is it wise?
[01:28] <blazemonger> i dont have devices hdc
[01:28] <blazemonger> i on ly hve /dev/sda /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[01:28] <boomh4u3r> TheimonCoffeeAfk: ok...is there a program i can use to find out?
[01:28] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> iCEifer, ok, now: press ctrl+alt+f2
[01:29] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> boomh4u3r, not that I'm aware of
[01:29] <NForc3r> hello?
[01:29] <blazemonger> raus:ive been having nothing but nightmares with PC's
[01:29] <blazemonger> raus;which of those systems will work with ubuntu
[01:29] <rausb0> blazemonger: aha. then it is sata. dma should be turned on by default.
[01:29] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> blazemonger, any system will work with ubuntu
[01:29] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; im s0o0 tired now. ill just come back on tomorrow is that ok?
[01:29] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> sure man
[01:29] <Tiggzz> TheimonCoffeeAfk, what would be your advice for partition size on  an 80gb with 2gb mem? Do I need to tell the instal what size to make swap part?
[01:29] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> take care
[01:29] <rausb0> TheimonCoffeeAfk: then tell him how to switch on dma for his harddisk
[01:29] <boomh4u3r> TheimonCoffeeAfk: so should i boot to the version i want gone and try to find what partition its installed to?
[01:29] <FuLio> TheimonCoffeeAfk; thank you for helping me today. ill cya tomorrow.
[01:29] <rausb0> gotta go
[01:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> boomh4u3r, yes
[01:30] <blazemonger> well the drive is IDE
[01:30] <SettlerX> Pici: so? how to compare it?
[01:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> FuLio, np
[01:30] <boomh4u3r> TheimonCoffeeAfk: ok thank you
[01:30] <blazemonger> i tried legacy mode enhanced mode
[01:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> take care
[01:30] <t4m1n0> If my computer has pci card USB 2.0, will work my usb bluetooth 1.0 on it ?
[01:30] <blazemonger> it says something in the bios about RAID but i dont even know WTF that is
[01:30] <blazemonger> .mm
[01:30] <jrib> blueStar: for your user only or for everyone?
[01:30] <Pici> SettlerX: All the information should be in those links ubotu sent you.  I think the installer does its own *automatic* md5 checks before it installs
[01:30] <blazemonger> so what do i do?
[01:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> Tiggzz, yo got 2GB mem? make a 256MB swap, thats enough
[01:30] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> now i'm leaving
[01:31] <blazemonger> its like the live cd of ubuntu firefox loads in a second but when i install it to hd it takes firefox 5 minutes to load
[01:31] <TheimonCoffeeAfk> I'll be back later
[01:31] <blazemonger> my amiga which was way older5 than this pc i have would load a 3d rendering package within a second
[01:31] <Pici> Tiggzz: Unless you're planning on 'suspending to disk', which in that case you need at least as much swap as RAM.
[01:31] <jrib> Tiggzz: if you want to use hibernate, then you need as much swap as you have ram
[01:31] <blueStar> Thanks jrib, for everyone.
[01:32] <blazemonger> do i just buy a brand new computer?
[01:32] <joe_> how do i know what driver to take ?
[01:32] <jrib> blueStar: edit /etc/environment
[01:32] <blazemonger> and spend yet another4 couple hundred
[01:32] <blazemonger> ive been spending more on pc parts than i have on xtc tabws
[01:32] <blazemonger> ive fried 3 motherboards and 5 video cards
[01:32] <joe_> anyone ?
[01:33] <blueStar> Thanks jrib, and if it's just for one user?
[01:33] <jrib> arn_: how did you install it?
[01:33] <jrib> !please > joe_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:33] <blazemonger> when installing the video card on one system i cracked the card accidentally
[01:33] <Tiggzz> thanks pici, jrib. I think i may be needing str, that way I can send it to sleep with mythtv
[01:33] <NForc3r> so can anyone help me
[01:33] <blazemonger> i'm having pc migration nightmares and i dont want to use windows
[01:33] <Pici> !ask | NForc3r
[01:33] <ubotu> NForc3r: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:34] <NForc3r> wait a sec im going to google it for a while
[01:34] <NForc3r> then brb
[01:34] <iCEifer> Theimon: you still here?
[01:34] <jrib> blueStar: then you want to do something like this: export PATH=/new/path:"${PATH}"         in a file that gets sourced when you login (~/.xprofile works for gdm)
[01:34] <spleencheesmonk1> i need help with dare i say the word...."wireless" anyone able to help? running feisty 7.04 trying to use a d-link dsl-924.  can find no documentation on it. (relatively new user (sub 4 weeks)
[01:34] <blazemonger> how do i enable the DMA tweak then?
[01:34] <blazemonger> the DMA tweak MUST work
[01:35] <Boomh4u3r> how do i see what partition this version of linux is installedon?
[01:35] <blazemonger> theere MUST be a way (after 4 months of trying to just get things to WORK i've lost my sanity
[01:35] <blueStar> Thanks jrib, bye
[01:35] <jrib> !wireless > spleencheesmonk1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:35] <jrib> spleencheesmonk1: checked the wiki?
[01:36] <spleencheesmonk1> blimey. no shortage of reading material there.
[01:36] <gregor_> siemanko :)
[01:36] <gregor_> twoja stara
[01:37] <NForc3r> how do i remove the nvidia restricted driver?
[01:37] <NForc3r> and go back to X
[01:37] <jrib> unomystEz: comment out the cd-rom in your /etc/apt/sources.list  or use system -> administration -> software sources  for a gui
[01:37] <NForc3r> or the gui'
[01:37] <spleencheesmonk1> think i've identified the problem. my router uses wpa encryption. apparently not able to set this up in gui.  this mean i have to use the dreaded terminal??
[01:37] <jrib> NForc3r: does X currently fail to load?
[01:37] <NForc3r> yes
[01:38] <jrib> !xconfig > NForc3r (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:38] <NForc3r> aparently i need to install Envy and install the nvidia drivers through that
[01:38] <blazemonger> i have a d865perl mobo and i tried t hdparm -d /dev/sda tweak and it gives me a error
[01:38] <blazemonger> i dont feel like spending any more money than i have
[01:38] <jrib> NForc3r: generate a new xorg.conf and choose 'nv' as your driver
[01:38] <NForc3r> how?
[01:38] <NForc3r> sorry slightly n00b here
[01:38] <iCEifer> I'm having trouble installing my nvidia driver under ubuntu. when I get out of X to install it says that I need libc installed for my distro but ubuntu's package manager says libc6 is already installed. any ideas?
[01:38] <blazemonger>  Timing cached reads:   1026 MB in  2.00 seconds = 512.48 MB/sec
[01:38] <blazemonger>  Timing buffered disk reads:    2 MB in  5.46 seconds = 374.87 kB/sec
[01:39] <jrib> NForc3r: ubotu sent you the command in a private message, do you see it?
[01:39] <david003> hello. can someone tell me of some guide or tips on starting programming C++
[01:39] <joe_> How do i know what driver to choose?
[01:39] <david003> ?
[01:39] <NForc3r> sent me a message but no commands
[01:39] <instabin|work> What would make me want to use kde over gnome?
[01:39] <blazemonger>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[01:39] <blazemonger>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:39] <jrib> NForc3r: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[01:39] <blazemonger> hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
[01:40] <blazemonger> the dma mode is a fraud
[01:40] <jrib> blazemonger: use a pastebin please
[01:40] <SlimeyPe1e> instabin|work: it's a bit more configurable, and some people (including me) prefer the KDE applications to the Gnome ones
[01:40] <SlimeyPe1e> otherwise frankly there's little difference for the end-user. They're both vaguely Windows-style environments.
[01:40] <blazemonger> jrib: how do i enable DMA on my drive so firefox will load quicker than 5 minutes on a 2.4ghz system
[01:40] <jrib> joe_: driver for what?
[01:40] <NForc3r> jrib: ok so that will open the xorg file? what do i do to it?
[01:40] <bullgard4> What does pts/0 stand for in the output of the command who?
[01:40] <blazemonger> feisty sucks
[01:41] <blazemonger> it wont let me do the dma mode tweak on my hardware
[01:41] <mikubuntu> please, can someone help me with an install partitioning?
[01:41] <SlimeyPe1e> blazemonger: is your hardware supported properly in other distributions?
[01:41] <blazemonger> if someone would have educated me on PC stuff i would have actually purchased a pre-built system instead of spending money on partas
[01:41] <joe_> i used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because it was detecting screens but none where configured
[01:41] <jrib> NForc3r: no, it will launch an ncurses program that will ask you some questions
[01:41] <blazemonger> they RUN but very very very slow just like ubuntu
[01:41] <spleencheesmonk1> can i use a kde frontend program on gnome?
[01:41] <blazemonger> even windows 2000 is SLOW
[01:41] <NForc3r> im on windows rite now (dual boot) i want to know what to do before i load linux, what happens when i type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh in
[01:41] <jrib> blazemonger: no idea, have you read:
[01:42] <jrib> !dma > blazemonger (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:42] <kymap_> hi everybody!
[01:42] <NForc3r> oh
[01:42] <NForc3r> sorry
[01:42] <NForc3r> diddnt read up
[01:42] <blazemonger> where is the pm
[01:42] <NForc3r> ok cya
[01:42] <SlimeyPe1e> blazemonger: sounds like Linux doesn't have a good driver for your motherboard.
[01:42] <blazemonger> well slime which of these computers will run ubuntu
[01:42] <SlimeyPe1e> blazemonger: there might be one available on the 'net if you search around a bit and cross your fingers
[01:42] <blazemonger>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[01:42] <blazemonger>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[01:43] <blazemonger> http://www.coopersystems.com/specials.htme
[01:43] <blazemonger> which of those computers are a good deal?(its a local shop)
[01:43] <blazemonger> and the owner's cool and on the windows pc's they install open office instead of m$ office
[01:43] <arn_> jrib, i got a package and executed "./configure","make","make install"
[01:43] <Pici> blazemonger: ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[01:44] <directLink> Booting Ubuntu with the liveCD, I copied my /home folder to a new partition and edited fstab so it would mount it as /home. The whole homefolder mounting thing works, however, after deleting(actually, moving to trash), the former /home direcory's contents, I still have the same disk-usage on my main partition, and the partition I copied the home direcory on, now has twice the usage of what I copied onto it. Even if I select the contents o
[01:45] <jrib> arn_: try 'make uninstall' from the same place you ran 'make install' then but there are no guarantees that will work.  In the future, try using 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install'.  If 'make uninstall' doens't work, you can either reinstall it with checkinstall and then remove it or remove it yourself manually by deleting what it installed
[01:45] <jrib> !checkinstall > arn_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:45] <kymap_> ohohohooo!
[01:48] <jrib> !cli > boris_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:48] <Tigggzzz> bloody thing
[01:50] <SoulChild> Hey all
[01:50] <SoulChild> I still need help with gnome-volume-manager: Mounting manually with pmount works ,.. but gnome-volume-manager does not automount USB Storage Devices, please i am trying it for hours ,... must be a package that i removed by mistake !
[01:51] <revilodraw> hi! how do format my mp3 player (connected by usb)?
[01:51] <vb> I was wondering if I could put all downloaded pkgs via AptonCD on my USB stick rather than on a CD, to install on another PC I use at my university?
[01:52] <cosinos> hi all, how to compile C3
[01:52] <cosinos> C#
[01:52] <IdleOne> vb you can save .debs on to any media you want
[01:53] <Firekill> algum br aki?
[01:53] <Firekill> presiso de ajuda =] 
[01:53] <IdleOne> !br | Firekill
[01:53] <ubotu> Firekill: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:53] <jrib> !br | Firekill
[01:54] <jrib> vb: I don't know about AptonCD but if it turns out you can't or you can't figure out how, checkout apt-zip
[01:54] <dutler> hi, i need help using ubuntu as a java app server.  I have Ubuntu7.04 installed with Postgresql and Ant installed from teh repo and Sun java 1.5 and 1.6. In install my app (openbravo) and can point my browser to the app. BUT it is way slow. literally took over 5 min to log the start page. any ideas on what would make it unusable slow?
[01:54] <mikubuntu> please, can someone help me with an install partitioning?
[01:54] <NForc3r> hey guys
[01:55] <dutler> mikubuntu... install partitioning?
[01:55] <dutler> what do you need to do and what do you have?
[01:55] <SoulChild> I still need help with gnome-volume-manager: Mounting manually with pmount works ,.. but gnome-volume-manager does not automount USB Storage Devices, please i am trying it for hours ,... must be a package that i removed by mistake !
[01:56] <revilodraw> i! how do format my mp3 player (connected by usb)? into fat32
[01:56] <gvsa123> hey you guys... i'd like to setup a webcam security. i already have camstream installed from repos. it's working now, but i'd like to be able to view the images remotely. where am i supposed to upload the images so i can view them on a browser as it refreshes every x number of second.
[01:56] <SoulChild> revilodraw: sudo mkfs-vfat /dev/[device)
[01:56] <SoulChild> revilodraw: or use gparted
[01:56] <jrib> !gparted > revilodraw (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:56] <NForc3r> how do i log in lol
[01:56] <SoulChild> revilodraw: you must have msdosfstools installed
[01:57] <jrib> NForc3r: is X working again?
[01:57] <NForc3r> there we go
[01:57] <NForc3r> i thought i was in the wrong chanel
[01:57] <NForc3r> no
[01:57] <NForc3r> well yes
[01:57] <NForc3r> but not how id want it to
[01:57] <gvsa123> ah... i just pickedup something here... gparted! i was already wondering about how to format usb's and floppies! and this my first time to log into this irc channel
[01:57] <revilodraw> soulchild: thanks!
[01:57] <gvsa123> yeah... thanks soulchild
[01:58] <NForc3r> i went back to the vesa driver because that was the last one i tried and it works just as well as the others
[01:58] <NForc3r> what was that program i mentioned earlyer that allowed you to install drivers (sorry i forgot)
[01:58] <NForc3r> 12am here and i gota finish this
[01:59] <IdleOne> ndiswarapper?
[01:59] <Pici> NForc3r: restricted-drivers-mananger?
[01:59] <mikubuntu> dutler: i'm doing an install using the alternate install cd.  i am at the partitioning stage but i have not been able to complete it for 3 hours now, can you help me?
[02:00] <ipis> whats a good irc client
[02:00] <NForc3r> i tried that and the driver crashed my system
[02:00] <MindSpark> ipis, xchat
[02:00] <SoulChild> HELP!!! I still need help with gnome-volume-manager: Mounting manually with pmount works ,.. but gnome-volume-manager does not automount USB Storage Devices, please i am trying it for hours ,... must be a package that i removed by mistake !
[02:00] <SettlerX> How to disable using swap by liveCD?
[02:00] <dutler> does the installer crash? what happens?
[02:00] <ipis> MindSpark: im having a hard time connecting to other servers. im using xchat now
[02:00] <SettlerX> Must I format the partition?
[02:01] <MindSpark> ipis, why's that ? you can easily open a new tab and /server <servername>
[02:01] <MindSpark> ipis, there's alwasy BitchX
[02:02] <MindSpark> SettlerX, swapon/swapoff
[02:03] <ipis> MindSpark: it really takes time to connect
[02:03] <gvsa123> can anyone give info on how to view images from camstream remotely on a browser?
[02:03] <MindSpark> ipis, that's a connection problem, not a client thing I guess
[02:04] <MindSpark> gvsa123, you will need apache, then some Java applet that will do that
[02:04] <NativeAngels> hello
[02:04] <MindSpark> or some other webbrowser
[02:04] <[diablo] > good afternoon #ubuntu
[02:04] <NForc3r> hey..er... i just typed wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run and it downloaded something
[02:04] <MindSpark> I mean webserver
[02:04] <NForc3r> where did it download to?
[02:04] <NativeAngels> does anyone here know about ircdefender
[02:04] <NForc3r> home foler
[02:04] <NForc3r> folder
[02:04] <ipis> maybe
[02:04] <NForc3r> my bad
[02:04] <MindSpark> NForc3r, it downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run into the dir you're standing in
[02:05] <NForc3r> oh
[02:05] <NForc3r> thanx
[02:05] <MindSpark> lol
[02:05] <MindSpark> right under your right foot :P
[02:05] <Hairulfr> "server"
[02:05] <solekiller> i use a dell wi-fi 1390 minichip thats with the using the BCM4401-B0 brouadcom chipset is it handled the same like all the other broadcome 43xx devices (im asking since its 44xx)
[02:06] <[diablo] > guys, I've moved from KDE to Gnome for the first time in 7 years. I was using Kubuntu, but now have made the full switch to Ubuntu... I've customized it somewhat, adding the Novell Gnome-Main-Menu etc... is this going to actually make it into Ubuntu, because I really believe its far better menu than the default Ubuntu one. I read something the other day that they are introducing Control Center into Gutsy... SLAB coming too?
[02:06] <gvsa123> mindspark: oh it's called a webserver huh... i saw it once, he had a cam that took pictures every 3 seconds and it uploaded it somewhere that refreshed every 3 seconds, then i had the link to it, which also refreshed... that's a webserver?
[02:06] <MindSpark> gvsa123, are you being sarcastic ?
[02:06] <mikubuntu> dutler: sorry, dint see that you answered.  no, it doesn't crash.  i am on a page that says: you are editing partition #1 of SCSI1 sda.  this partition is formatted with the fat32 file system.
[02:06] <gvsa123> i mean, he sent me a url, where i could view the images
[02:07] <solekiller> i use a dell wi-fi 1390 minichip thats with the using the BCM4401-B0 brouadcom chipset is it handled the same like all the other broadcome 43xx devices (im asking since its 44xx)
[02:07] <gvsa123> no...
[02:07] <solekiller> help? i dont wona flood
[02:07] <MindSpark> gvsa123, ok, yes, you need to install a webserver, so your web browser can connect to
[02:07] <MindSpark> gvsa123, there are two ways of 'uploading' the pics
[02:07] <gvsa123> i don't know where to upload the images, so i could view them remotely
[02:07] <solekiller> coz it worked i only cant see any other aps
[02:08] <gvsa123> install a webserver? it's not a service in the web or something?
[02:08] <MindSpark> either you put them in a directory or do streaming video
[02:08] <MindSpark> gvsa123, you could also upload the pics on flickr or whatever
[02:08] <gvsa123> ok streaming video sound better...
[02:08] <N3m0r1n0> ciao ragazzi
[02:08] <N3m0r1n0> sono nei casini...
[02:08] <Pici> !it | N3m0r1n0
[02:08] <ubotu> N3m0r1n0: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:08] <mikubuntu> dutler: then it tells me the settings... says use as: fat32 file sys, mount point /media/sda1, mount options: defaults, bootable flag: off,
[02:08] <MindSpark> gvsa123, but I am sure there are internet apps that do that already
[02:08] <gvsa123> flickr... and it can be viewed remotely, so that everytime the cam took a shot, it would be uploaded?
[02:09] <MindSpark> gvsa123, no
[02:09] <boghog> hi
[02:09] <MindSpark> gvsa123, in that case I'd go hunting for some website that could do that
[02:09] <dutler> mikubuntu: ru dual booting?
[02:09] <MindSpark> gvsa123, although that's not much to do with ubuntu or even linux, but lemme check
[02:10] <mikubuntu> dutler:  then i have 4 choices: first, 'resize the partition', then 'done setting up' (that don't work cuz then tells me i have no root filee sys)
[02:10] <gvsa123> wow thanks...
[02:10] <mikubuntu> dutler: then 'copy data from another partition, and last: 'delete the partition'
[02:10] <MindSpark> gvsa123, http://www.earthcam.com/
[02:10] <mikubuntu> dutler: i am lost.
[02:11] <zwl> Why  ?
[02:11] <dutler> mikubuntu: give me a sec, ill boot off a alt cd so ican c the same thing
[02:11] <mikubuntu> no, not dual booting
[02:11] <MindSpark> gvsa123, http://webcam.com/
[02:11] <MindSpark> gvsa123, just google for webcam and you'll find zillions of places where you could do that
[02:11] <mikubuntu> dutler: i don't think you'll have the same experience
[02:11] <boghog> I have two harddisks in my computer, harddisk A holds my ubuntu+swap partition, harddisk B is empty (has no filesystems on it), I want to give harddisk A away to someone, and thus I need to copy everything it holds to harddisk B so I can boot from that. I am wondering how I should go about doing that, and also how to install a bootloader to the second harddisk (or can I copy the boot sector from A to B?)
[02:12] <[diablo] > my desktop looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/327rgv
[02:12] <mikubuntu> dutler:  i have done three other installations of x in the last couple of days, and they were not likehis install.
[02:12] <boghog> I think I need to do something with "dd" but even after reading the man page I'm not sure how
[02:12] <gvsa123> i see.. i was searching for webhosts, and servers... that's why i didn't pick it up
[02:12] <solekiller> nvm then
[02:12] <dutler> ic .. this is a differnt one with differ hd controllers?
[02:12] <[diablo] > I'd really love to see similar in default Ubuntu
[02:12] <gvsa123> mindspard: thanks a lot.. this should get me on the right direction.
[02:13] <MindSpark> gvsa123, I'd say if you're using linux, you should get the cam running first :P
[02:13] <mikubuntu> dutler:  this install started differently, because it detected "relatively little free space" and hence by default would install with a bare minimum of stuff.
[02:13] <MindSpark> gvsa123, NP
[02:13] <ipis> whats a good mp3 player
[02:13] <dutler> do u have a partition lable as '/' ?
[02:13] <gvsa123> it's working pretty good, no configurations needed after the install...
[02:13] <MindSpark> ipis, ipod
[02:13] <MindSpark> lol
[02:13] <MindSpark> am I in #ubuntu ?
[02:14] <Pici> MindSpark: Yes.
[02:14] <dutler> and you are trying to perserve exsiting partitions?
[02:14] <MindSpark> thanks Pici, was starting to wonder
[02:14] <mikubuntu> dutler: but i don't care about all the stuff that's on the compluter, because i got it out of the trash, i just want to write over the old windows system; nothing of mine on it
[02:14] <MindSpark> gvsa123, great
[02:14] <ipis> the installed players cannot play mp3s
[02:14] <ipis> lol
[02:14] <mikubuntu> dutler: but i cannot get past the partitioning stage.  omg, it's driving me crazy.
[02:15] <Pici> !mp3 | ipis
[02:15] <ubotu> ipis: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:15] <ipis> MindSpark: lol. on my computer
[02:15] <MindSpark> I have this old hard drive with fat32 on it, and Windows fails to read it, while Linux is doing a great job at it
[02:15] <gvsa123> mindspark: i know.. i've only used it since edgy, and my xp notebook is starting to accumulate dust... :)
[02:15] <MindSpark> can't believe microsoft can't handle to read their own filesystems
[02:15] <dutler> do u get the option of "use entier disk"
[02:15] <MindSpark> ipis, mplayer, xmms
[02:15] <reval> haha holy crap
[02:15] <MindSpark> :)
[02:16] <reval> this is nostalgic
[02:16] <ipis> okay tahnks
[02:16] <ipis> thanks*
[02:16] <mikubuntu> dutler: ya, i think i did that part, it says the partition is currently 8.4 GB.  The harddrive is 8.5.
[02:16] <MindSpark> ipis, np ;)
[02:17] <reval> I have a question, but first I want to be sure talking about other kinds of linux will cause people to get dramatic or if people just won't know (it's gentoo)
[02:17] <Hairulfr> Anyone had the problems with windows "locking" NTFS partitions that aren't shut down properly? I was cursing ubuntu to hell for not auto mounting until I tried myself and found that windows actually "made them" inaccessible. So now I gotta "Shut down" or "restart", no more resetting. Boring
[02:17] <MindSpark> reval, if it's linux, it's linux
[02:18] <ipis> ubuntu raks
[02:18] <ipis> rocks i mean
[02:18] <ipis> lol
[02:18] <Pici> reval: You'd be better off asking in ##linux
[02:18] <reval> Alright, I'm basically the opposite of an idiot savant
[02:18] <faileas> Hairulfr: actually, its also to protect your data. IIRC windows can't mount EXT3 partions that arn't dismounted properly either, using IFS
[02:18] <dutler> everytime ive done an install and used the "entire disk" option partioning was slick...
[02:18] <reval> I'll check ##linux then, thanks.
[02:18] <dutler> so you use that option.. then click next and it tels you that you have no root?
[02:19] <mad_goldfish> Anyone got an updated link to XGl supporting graphics cards? The link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl is broken :-(
[02:19] <Frogzoo> reval: this chan is ubuntu support, your best to find a gentoo chan
[02:19] <Hairulfr> faileas: Yeah, I discovered that, it was quite boring
[02:19] <MindSpark> c'mon guys, let the dude ask his question, we've had all sort of questions answered here, from webcams to mp3 players :P
[02:19] <mikubuntu> dutler: ya, me too, but not THIS time :(
[02:20] <praet> mad_goldfish: look sfine to me
[02:20] <faileas> Hairulfr: there's a good reason for that ;p
[02:20] <sameer> rami
[02:20] <dutler> have you tried a third party tool to wide the hd and think tried to install ubuntu?
[02:20] <dutler> koppix or ubcd or something?
[02:20] <user_> Hey can you suggest me any program for lin like Easy Thumb for win?
[02:21] <faileas> easy thumb?
[02:21] <Pici> user_: gthumb?
[02:21] <mad_goldfish> praet: Hmm.. I get connection failed when I click on the Gentoo wiki link for the list of supported cards :-(
[02:21] <mikubuntu> dutler: so my options on the page now, to shorten, are: resize, finish, copy, or delete partitition.
[02:21] <MindSpark> user_, what's easy thumb ?
[02:21] <dutler> oh had the norm ubuntu boots live and you can use gparted
[02:21] <praet> makes thumbnails from images.
[02:21] <dutler> delete
[02:21] <dutler> go for it
[02:21] <dutler> :D
[02:21] <MindSpark> praet, oh, ok
[02:21] <praet> I recommend installing the plugin for nautilus that lets you resize
[02:21] <mikubuntu> dutler: delete the partition?
[02:22] <Blue_Eagle> !list
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[02:22] <dutler> yes. if the data doesnt matter. im thinkig your partition tables maybe hosed
[02:22] <mikubuntu> praet, i can't install anything till i install xubuntu.
[02:22] <faileas> hmm
[02:22] <faileas> imagemagic i think
[02:22] <dutler> so del the part and see what options the isntaller gives ya
[02:22] <Ramy> ok, sameer you have to register :)
[02:22] <faileas> its command line tho
[02:22] <sameer> ji rami
[02:22] <sameer> rami
[02:22] <mikubuntu> dutler: ok, hold on, i try
[02:22] <MindSpark> ImageMagick is an entire suite
[02:23] <MindSpark> Ramy, and sameer ya hala bel ordon
[02:23] <mikubuntu> dutler: ok, now i'm back to the page that says:
[02:23] <sameer> hi , mind sprak
[02:23] <praet> MindSpark: are you Jordanian?
[02:23] <MindSpark> nopes, Egyptian
[02:23] <MindSpark> praet, are you ?
[02:23] <Pici> !english
[02:23] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:24] <MindSpark> Pici, we were asking in polite english :D
[02:24] <praet> MindSpark: yep.
[02:24] <MindSpark> aight
[02:24] <Pici> MindSpark: I know, I'm just sending out a polite reminder to everyone :)
[02:24] <mikubuntu> this is an overview of your currently configure partritions and mount points.  select a partittion to modify its settings (file system, mount point, etc), a free space to create partitions, or a device to initialise its partition table.
[02:24] <Ramy> MindSpark , hi.
[02:24] <MindSpark> Pici ;) can't complain
[02:25] <MindSpark> hi Ramy
[02:25] <MindSpark> looks like my old hd is dying on me
[02:25] <MindSpark> been trying to copy 9 gigs to back them up for the last 2 hours
[02:25] <Ramy> MindSpark, from where are you ?
[02:25] <MindSpark> and I only have 2,8 of them
[02:25] <mudpuddlestones> hey anyone know which package manager is being used in the Application>Add/Remove?
[02:26] <MindSpark> mudpuddlestones, depends on your distro
[02:26] <gvsa123> mindspark: thanks a lot.. i'll check in sometime soon.. bye
[02:26] <dutler> mikubunu: didnt catch what the page says
[02:26] <MindSpark> gvsa123, np :) later
[02:26] <mudpuddlestones> Ubuntu 7..Fisty
[02:26] <david003> hello. i just installed wine
[02:26] <david003> how do i use it?
[02:26] <Pici> mudpuddlestones: I believe its just a different front-end to apt-get
[02:26] <mikubuntu> dutler:  then 4 lines/options:  first,  SCSI1 (000)(sda) - 8.5 gb ata st38421a
[02:26] <MindSpark> mudpuddlestones, which window manager/ desktop manager ?
[02:26] <mudpuddlestones> not synaptic?
[02:26] <MindSpark> mudpuddlestones, yes, that could be it
[02:26] <mikubuntu> this is an overview of your currently configure partritions and mount points.  select a partittion to modify its settings (file system, mount point, etc), a free space to create partitions, or a device to initialise its partition table.
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> david003: are you trying to install a program from CD, or from a downloaded .exe
[02:27] <david003> i have an exe file and would like to launch it with wine, but how?
[02:27] <mudpuddlestones> cool
[02:27] <mikubuntu> dutler:  then 4 lines/options:  first,  SCSI1 (000)(sda) - 8.5 gb ata st38421a
[02:27] <MindSpark> my suggestion would be to open it, then type top or ps ax
[02:27] <aidan> How can I update CUPS to the gutsy version, I'm using 6.04
[02:27] <MindSpark> and see which app is running
[02:27] <mudpuddlestones> anyone else run Blender?
[02:27] <Pici> david003: from the terminal: wine application.exe
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> david003: open a terminal, type wine
[02:27] <david003> i will try
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> then drag the exe into the terminal, and hit enter
[02:27] <MindSpark> ran blender once and never understood much of it, I am just not a graphics guy, lol
[02:27] <MindSpark> but I did use Ardour !
[02:27] <MindSpark> hehe
[02:27] <mikubuntu> dutler: second says > pri/log 8.5 gb    FREE SPACE
[02:28] <mudpuddlestones> lol, lot off work true
[02:28] <mudpuddlestones> keeps freezing up my system
[02:28] <mudpuddlestones> trying to figure out why
[02:28] <mikubuntu> Dutler:  third says: undo changes, and fourth is 'finish partitioning'
[02:28] <mudpuddlestones> with and without XGL
[02:28] <Ramy> MindSpark , can you see my replies ?
[02:28] <MindSpark> Ramy, no
[02:28] <mudpuddlestones> finally got compiz running though
[02:29] <mudpuddlestones> and my dual heads
[02:29] <MindSpark> Ramy, you need to be registered to send private messages
[02:29] <dutler> doesnt sound like were finished, but what happens if you slect it?
[02:29] <mudpuddlestones> but, no Blender is a big problem
[02:29] <mudpuddlestones> for me
[02:29] <MindSpark> why's that ?
[02:29] <Ramy> MindSpark, i did that, but i think i lost my nickname :(
[02:30] <mikubuntu> dutler: no root file system is defined.  please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[02:30] <mudpuddlestones> cause I use it everyday
[02:30] <MindSpark> Ramy, join the chan I invited you to
[02:30] <boghog> do I need to run anything to initialise a newly created swap partition?
[02:30] <mudpuddlestones> cept for the past couple that I have been trying to migrate
[02:30] <MindSpark> boghog, what do you mean with initialize ?
[02:31] <dutler> ok, can you select the 2nd option and give it a mount point of '/'?
[02:31] <MindSpark> boghog, it needs to be formatted as swap
[02:31] <boghog> I have created a new partition with fdisk and marked its system type as Linux / Swap, but I'm not sure if that's all there is to it
[02:31] <boghog> oh
[02:31] <boghog> how do I format it?
[02:31] <MindSpark> boghog, mkswap
[02:31] <boghog> thanks
[02:31] <MindSpark> np
[02:32] <t4m1n0> is it possible to set time when computer starts? so with command: shutdown -r 3600  where 3600 are seconds between computer being off and than on ?
[02:33] <mikubuntu> dutler: two choices:  create a new partition OR show cylinger/head/sector info
[02:33] <akujiki> salut maxime est tu la
[02:33] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, that will make it reboot
[02:33] <Pici> t4m1n0: Short answer, no.
[02:33] <hacked_kernel> l
[02:34] <dutler> creat new
[02:34] <mikubuntu> dutler: k
[02:34] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, you will need a console connected to the computer to switch it on
[02:34] <mikubuntu> dutler: what size?
[02:34] <dutler> 100%
[02:34] <mikubuntu> dutler: k
[02:34] <dutler> wait
[02:34] <dutler> thats wrong, sorry
[02:35] <dutler> how much ram do u have?
[02:35] <aidan> How can I update CUPS to the gutsy version, I'm using 6.04
[02:35] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: what kind of console. You mean something really hardware or smth?
[02:35] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, hardware
[02:35] <mikubuntu> dutler: but isn't that gonna be all 8.5 gb again?
[02:35] <matysek> i can't connect to skype. do somebody have the same problem? my connection works well, i am connected to the rest communication protocols...
[02:36] <SeveredCross> aidan: You'll need to make sure all the dependencies for cups are gutsified as well...
[02:36] <aidan> SeveredCross: do you know if that's a painless process?
[02:36] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: it would be nice if sometginh like this would alrleady exists, otherway electronical knowladge :S
[02:36] <SeveredCross> No.
[02:36] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, it does exist
[02:36] <unagi> does anyone have a fix for ubuntu not being able to come back out of hibernation?
[02:36] <SeveredCross> I suppose you could change your sources.list to point to gutsy, upgrade just cups and then go back to dapper lists, but you still might break stuff.
[02:36] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: hm, do you know for exact name ?
[02:37] <dutler> right, but some of it need to be used for swap
[02:37] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, lemme check
[02:37] <SeveredCross> Do you need specifically Gutsy or can you just dist-upgrade to Feisty and that'll work?
[02:37] <dutler> say 512mb
[02:37] <dutler> so make your / partition 512mb less than total capacity
[02:38] <unagi> so windows was crashing on me last night and i realized why linux is so much more efficient...........linux is like an opporating system within an opporating system
[02:38] <Devo> Does someone want to play an internet game of nibbles with me? :D
[02:38] <Arafangion> unagi: operating.
[02:38] <unagi> tomato zucchini
[02:38] <unagi> lol
[02:38] <Devo> Nibbles dawg! Best game that ever came with Ubuntu.
[02:39] <Devo> Or I guess any Gnome distro....
[02:39] <unagi> i for some reason have gotten in the habit of saying g-nome
[02:39] <Arafangion> Devo: I was playing that game back on windows 3.11. :)
[02:39] <unagi> sigh
[02:39] <Devo> Lol.
[02:39] <mikubuntu> dutler: i did something wrong.  i'm back where i was before ... ?
[02:40] <unagi> is hibernation suppose to be fixed in gutsy?
[02:40] <nephish> what is the difference between hda1 and sda1 ?
[02:40] <Devo> But you can't have internet multiplayer with the win 3.1 I don't think.
[02:40] <unagi> ones a hard drive ones a partition nephish
[02:41] <unagi> or 'hard disk' and 'soft disk'
[02:41] <nephish> unagi, ok, what do IDE and SATA drives show up the same ?
[02:41] <mikubuntu> scsi1 000 sda 8.5 ata st38421a, or pri/log 8.5 gb   free space,  or undo changes, or, finish partitioning ...
[02:41] <ionstorm> remote root exploit for wireshark prior to 0.9.9.6 in the wild http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3198806#post3198806
[02:41] <Arafangion> nephish: scsi disk a, partition 1, I believe, if scsi emulation is used. (Which is surprisingly both common, efficient, and useful)
[02:41] <mosno> eh? hda vs sda is the driver in the kernel
[02:41] <ionstorm> repo's need to be updated for wireshark
[02:41] <mosno> ie. sata/pata/scsi = sda, ide = hda
[02:41] <mosno> afaik
[02:41] <dutler> ha ha.. bummer. i think you need to boot a hd utillity and wipe the hd use ubuntu live and gparted... then reboot the alt cd and make sure you select use entire disk and then see if it work normal
[02:41] <unagi> i wouldnt see why it wouldnt nephish
[02:41] <mikubuntu> dutler: sorry, my brain is fried, but i'll keep going if you will
[02:42] <nephish> thanks, gents
[02:42] <mikubuntu> dutler: what should i select?
[02:42] <unagi> maybe im completely stupid then
[02:42] <elliotjhug> Hi, I'm having a problem that the mute button on my keyboard mutes the wrong control. Is there a way of changing this (I need to be muting PCM, but it actually mutes Front)
[02:42] <skyfalcon866> is jfs better than ext3
[02:43] <Fa-sum`> hi
[02:43] <mikubuntu> unagi: i am the JEDI of completely stupid
[02:43] <Arafangion> skyfalcon866: Define "better".
[02:43] <skyfalcon866> faster or more stable
[02:43] <mikubuntu> dutler: you still with me?
[02:43] <dutler> i dont think you should keep trrying... i would wipe the hd first (make sure there is nothing funny with the hd) and in try to install
[02:43] <Fa-sum`> i have a problem with alsa in ubuntu, it doesn't work. i reinstalled feisty some days ago, and in the previous installation i also had this problem, which solved itself, i think with some upgrade. now alsa doesn't work again, as i said. do you have idea of the solution?
[02:44] <dlambert> nnnnn
[02:44] <unagi> !alsa
[02:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:44] <Arafangion> skyfalcon866: I do not know what jfs is, but I might assume that jfs is faster, but ext3 is more reliable, which then, is better?
[02:44] <Arafangion> skyfalcon866: ext3 is the most 'trusted to work', in general.
[02:44] <skyfalcon866> is ext3 journaled
[02:44] <elliotjhug> skyfalcon866: yes it is
[02:44] <Fa-sum`> ubotu, the device alsa is selected
[02:44] <Fa-sum`> OSS works, but ALSA doesn't
[02:44] <unagi> anyone have a fix for the hang when loading ubuntu. 'configuring network devices'?
[02:44] <elliotjhug> Fa-sum`: ubotu is a bot
[02:44] <Fa-sum`> i know
[02:45] <unagi> lol Fa-sum` talked to ubotu
[02:45] <unagi> cute
[02:45] <SlimeyPe1e> unagi: you could try removing network-manager and doing things the old-fashioned way (/etc/network/interfaces)
[02:45] <defrysk> !ubotu
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[02:45] <m0dY> how to install a Ubuntu domU on a fedora dom0, a Fedora XEN environment i mean ?
[02:45] <Arafangion> !tell unagi about lol.
[02:45] <defrysk> :D
[02:45] <unagi> eww i dunno bout that
[02:45] <unagi> !tell
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <SlimeyPe1e> unagi: there was a bug before the feisty release which caused network-manager to take ages at boot, so I got rid of it on my systems.
[02:46] <elliotjhug> any ideas about changine the default 'mute' command?
[02:46] <unagi> is there another network manager that can be used?
[02:46] <SlimeyPe1e> unagi: there's the KDE one. Not sure if you have to be running KDE for it to function though.
[02:46] <MindSpark> t4m1n0, http://www.moxa.com/Solutions/Remote_Console_Management.htm
[02:46] <t4m1n0> MindSpark: tnx
[02:46] <unagi> ive run it before i dont think so
[02:47] <unagi> i dont think i have to have kde
[02:47] <unagi> i guess it wouldnt hurt to try it right?
[02:47] <larsivi> anyone configured the xorg-input-penmount driver under feisty?
[02:47] <SlimeyPe1e> unagi: I guess not
[02:47] <mikubuntu> dutler: i thought the partitioning wiped the harddrive?
[02:48] <Ramy> MindSpark , /nickserv identify passwd
[02:48] <unagi> i wish i could get my pc to come out of hibernation on ubuntu
[02:48] <Ramy> MindSpark ,  Password Incorrect
[02:48] <hoarycripple> Eterm compiles properly on ubuntu feisty amd64, but then immediately segfaults upon running it.  is this amd64 specific?
[02:48] <dutler> not nessesarly and if the installer has an "issue" why try to force it. why the alt cd, are you 64?
[02:49] <fqh> Is Seveas the manager of the channel?
[02:49] <mikubuntu> dutler: when i apply a value to the partition size, then it asks me to choose 'primary' or 'logical'?
[02:49] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: don't know. if you like me to the source I can test it for you on plain old x86?
[02:49] <unagi> mikeubuntu partitioning separates the hd into virtual drives........
[02:50] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, ok, the source is in cvs.  you need to compile libast as well as eterm: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.enlightenment.org:/var/cvs/e co -P  eterm
[02:50] <Dorothy_> acpi=force
[02:50] <leininger> bonjour a tousse
[02:51] <Dark_Shadow> bjr
[02:51] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: libast source is where?
[02:51] <Dorothy_> can any of you help me with this? Toshiba Tecra 8100 Ubuntu Feisty#
[02:51] <dgjones> fqh, Seveas is one of a number of operators who keep an eye on the channel
[02:51] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: nm, found it
[02:52] <dutler> primary
[02:53] <Dorothy_> acpi=force on Toshiba Tecra 8100 Ubuntu Feisty Fawn
[02:53] <luizao> hola comota tu
[02:53] <luizao> todo bien??
[02:53] <luizao> XD
[02:54] <B-rabbit> how do i boot backtrack from a live CD?
[02:54] <faileas> ...
[02:54] <drock> Ho do I set a Bluetooth pin?
[02:54] <faileas> your kidding. pop the CD in. boot
[02:54] <faileas> !es luizao
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es luizao - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <faileas> !es > luizao
[02:54] <luizao> who is a bot monkey
[02:54] <drock> !bluetooth
[02:54] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[02:55] <luizao> eh?
[02:55] <MindSpark> B-rabbit, what do you mean backtrack ?
[02:55] <luizao> ^_^
[02:55] <faileas> backtrack is a liveCD
[02:55] <Dorothy_> Hello?
[02:55] <faileas> IIRC for recovery
[02:55] <dutler> anyone help me with my java prob?
[02:55] <luizao> hello
[02:55] <nwidger> hi i was just wondering how hard it is to create a new version of a package and get it added into the repositories.  im looking to get the mutt package upgrade.
[02:55] <Dorothy_> okay so you can see me then
[02:55] <faileas> Dorothy_: no we can't ;)
[02:56] <oranye> malang
[02:56] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: eterm doesn't compile at all. Complains about an undefined reference
[02:56] <jrib> nwidger: have you checked what version is in gutsy?
[02:56] <nwidger> jrib: no actually, i haven't.  but that would be a good idea :)
[02:56] <MindSpark> nwidger you can always recompile
[02:56] <B-rabbit> faileas: when i boot it this boot command line comes up and i don't know where to go from there
[02:56] <faileas> hmm
[02:56] <Dorothy_> faileas: don't laugh it has happened before!
[02:56] <faileas> ahh
[02:56] <nwidger> jrib: okay, it's newer but still not the newest
[02:56] <faileas> B-rabbit: what kinda command line?
[02:56] <faileas> shell?
[02:57] <jrib> !packaging > nwidger (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:57] <B-rabbit> yep
[02:57] <dutler> i echo $JAVA_HOME and get the correct path, but when i run "ant int -logfile" i get an error the JAVA_HOME is not defind corrctly
[02:57] <nwidger> MindSpark: that's what i did for myself.  but i figured i might like to contribute something :)
[02:57] <unagi> !ndiswrapper
[02:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:57] <Dorothy_> SO can anyone help me with this acpi=force thing?
[02:58] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, this is  an autotools problem.  the versions necessary are automake 1.9.6, autoconf 2.61, libtool 1.5.22, m4 1.4.8.  also, did you compile and install libast first?
[02:58] <MindSpark> nwidger, get checkinstall, this will do the packaging for ya
[02:58] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, i don't expect you to change all the autofoo versions just to test this :)
[02:58] <nwidger> MindSpark: hmmm... interesting.  ill look into that.
[02:58] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, thanks though
[02:58] <faileas> B-rabbit: what does hitting enter do?
[02:58] <mikubuntu> dutler: are you there?  i think i got out of the loop, can you help?
[02:58] <jrib> nwidger: though with something like mutt, it usually just gets synced from debian.  Check if the version you want is in debian.  If it is you can request a sync if it's not too late in the gutsy schedule yet
[02:59] <nwidger> jrib: okay, lemme look
[02:59] <Dorothy_> I have searched all over the forums and have not found an answer
[02:59] <gvsa123> mindspark: they have an application that only works for windows. man! but it's good. so my next question is which is a better emulator, wine or vmware?
[02:59] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: Compiled and installed libast as required. Never mind then. Thats alright, might we worth looking if theres some 64bit specific code available for it
[02:59] <nwidger> jrib: yeah debian has the latest version
[02:59] <MindSpark> gvsa123, those are two different things
[02:59] <faileas> B-rabbit: http://backtrack.offensive-security.com/index.php?title=Image:Console.png like that?
[03:00] <dutler> mikubuntu: im here and have said what i would do.... cant offer you much else
[03:00] <MindSpark> gvsa123, vmware actually starts another virtual machine, letting you boot into windows
[03:00] <MindSpark> wine just creates a windows environment so you can run your windows apps under linux
[03:00] <gvsa123> oh really! ooops... my bad... but wine is the one you use if you want to run windows applications
[03:00] <gvsa123> ah ok
[03:00] <MindSpark> yes, exactly
[03:00] <jrib> nwidger: the motu wiki should have some info on how to request a sync, but check the gutsy schedule first to see if you still can
[03:00] <MindSpark> you can also use vmware to start two different linuxes
[03:01] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, yes, i am searching for that now.  if I see the developer in #e I'll ask also.
[03:01] <gvsa123> i see... and wine absolutely works?
[03:01] <faileas> gvsa123: wine works through linux, dosen't need a copy of windows. it isn't 100% reliable. VMware runs an OS in an OS
[03:01] <faileas> no
[03:01] <MindSpark> gvsa123, no
[03:01] <B-rabbit> faileas: it say's something about cun't load isolinux image or sumptin like that...any ideas
[03:01] <faileas> its a little like russian roulette ;)
[03:01] <gvsa123> or are there cartain apps that don't work with it?
[03:01] <faileas> B-rabbit: your CD is borked
[03:01] <MindSpark> gvsa123, some things are just hard to emulate
[03:01] <mikubuntu> dutler: i now have two partitions: #1 primary 1.7GB   and next is : pri/log 6.8 gb   >  free space ... is this the right config?  should i undo or finish?
[03:01] <MindSpark> gvsa123, there's winex and there's crossover office
[03:01] <gvsa123> faileas: got it!
[03:02] <MindSpark> those are two other emulators which you could use
[03:02] <faileas> those are not amulators. those are APIs ;)
[03:02] <niolou> hi
[03:02] <elliotjhug> WINE - WINE is not an emulator :P
[03:02] <dutler> no, i would undo
[03:02] <MindSpark> faileas, API's are libraries in linux terms :D
[03:02] <Dorothy_> faileas: any reason why?#
[03:03] <MindSpark> elliotjhug, WINE = Windows Emulator
[03:03] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, will try to compile with 32bit libs and see if that works.
[03:03] <MindSpark> that's what the abbreviation stands for
[03:03] <faileas> Dorothy_: i'm afraid i didn't catch your problem
[03:03] <dutler> you want two, but one of only 512 or so mounted as swap and the rest with a mount point of /
[03:03] <mikubuntu> dutler: ok, what should i try to do have a larger 'pri/log'?
[03:03] <faileas> MindSpark: au contrare, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[03:03] <dutler> the large need to be primary
[03:03] <MindSpark> faileas, what is it then ?
[03:03] <MindSpark> a simulator ? :P
[03:03] <faileas> its an API
[03:04] <mikubuntu> dutler: so i want the reverse of what i have
[03:04] <B-rabbit> when i boot backtrack this command line shows up :http://www.leetupload.com/tutorials/hackingspoonfed/part1/2.gif.....any ideas what i have to do next...help needed pls
[03:04] <ConstyXIV> MindSpark: an API layer
[03:04] <Pici> MindSpark: Wine is an implementation of the windows api on linux
[03:04] <gvsa123> so which is better? wine, winex or crossover office?
[03:04] <elliotjhug> MindSpark: well, to be blunt, thats just wrong. thats not what it stands for
[03:04] <mikubuntu> dutler: let me work on it a minute
[03:04] <MindSpark> elliotjhug, what does it stand for then ?
[03:04] <faileas> In windows terminology its a windows subsystem on linux, same way SFU is a posix subsystem for windows
[03:04] <ConstyXIV> gvsa123: crossover is a commercial version of wine, winex (cedega) is for games
[03:05] <ConstyXIV> MindSpark: the acronym is Wine Is Not an Emulator
[03:05] <zePh7r> hi. after installing and uninstalling  fglrx drivers from ati, i noticed through modprobe that /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko is still there. should I be concerned about this?
[03:05] <drock> WINE runs Windows binaries
[03:05] <MindSpark> ConstyXIV, yea, I got that, but I am wondering what it IS
[03:05] <gvsa123> constlXIV: i see... i've seen wine a lot in the forums, so i guess i'll stick with it... albeit it was in the forums because they couldn't get it to work... lol
[03:05] <faileas> drock: it runs SOME binaries ;)
[03:05] <elliotjhug> MindSpark: Wine stands for, Wine is not an Emulator
[03:05] <MindSpark> hahaha
[03:05] <elliotjhug> MindSpark: nice and recursive
[03:06] <MindSpark> ok, should have thought of that
[03:06] <elliotjhug> MindSpark:
[03:06] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, it is a problem with compilation with 64bit libs.  if I compile with 32bit libs, everything works fine.
[03:06] <elliotjhug> MindSpark: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WINE
[03:06] <ConstyXIV> MindSpark: it basically lets Linux run programs using the Windows APIs
[03:06] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: Glad to hear it
[03:06] <MindSpark> ok, looks like I been reading false info about that
[03:06] <Dorothy_> faileas: it is an acpi issue.
[03:06] <MindSpark> who needs wine anyway :)
[03:06] <jrib> hoarycripple: is there a reason you are compiling eterm instead of using the repositories?
[03:07] <faileas> Dorothy_: can you try using a cheatcode to boot without ACPI?
[03:07] <gvsa123> mindspark: me :)
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> MindSpark: people who need windows programs on linux?..lol
[03:07] <ConstyXIV> i do, if i want to get my guild wars on :)
[03:07] <elliotjhug> mindspark: I prefer beer meself
[03:07] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, I just switched to 64bit.  am realizing that LDFLAGS is my friend :)
[03:07] <drock> You can install Photoshop and Dreamweaver using INE
[03:07] <tim167> hi, I am trying to connect a second keyboard, i got a ps2 > USB adapter but it doesnt work, any ideas how I can get a second keyboard on ubuntu ?
[03:07] <drock> WINE
[03:07] <drock> w key is getting orn
[03:07] <drock> worn
[03:07] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: :)
[03:07] <MindSpark> for me, I had to use a 486 for a very long time, when people were playing unreal tournament
[03:08] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: Can you link me to some info on LDFLAGS? I had quite a bit of problem with 64bit a while ago
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> tim167: buy a USB keyboard
[03:08] <MindSpark> and I just had to setup linux to get the computer getting on the internet
[03:08] <Dorothy_> faileas: I get an error at boot time telling me to acpi=force... my battery does not show up when I unplug my laptop even though it is obviously working
[03:08] <MindSpark> didn't have a chioce :'(
[03:08] <MindSpark> hehe
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> MindSpark: thats rough..lol
[03:08] <faileas> Dorothy_: never encountered that i'm afraid
[03:09] <MindSpark> IndyGunFreak, yea, so I just grew up not to become a gamer
[03:09] <Dorothy_> okay fair enough faileas
[03:09] <MindSpark> most of my friends just don't get it, hehe
[03:09] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, to build with all 32bit libraries, you need to pass the options: LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32"
[03:09] <mikubuntu> dutler:  now i have 'pri/log' 6.8 gb, and #1 primary is 1.7 gb ... is that right yet?  is it right enough to at least move through to the next stage of installation, and repartition later?
[03:09] <faileas> MindSpark: i bought a nice gaing rig
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> MindSpark: yeah, i like Xbox 360 games, never cared for PC Games
[03:09] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, and then ./autogen.sh or ./configure as usual
[03:09] <faileas> ended up installing VMware and playing with OSes ;p
[03:09] <ConstyXIV> i do most of my gaming on my DS and dreamcast, but i need wine so i can play guildwars
[03:09] <MindSpark> IndyGunFreak, maybe I should start thinking of getting a game console
[03:09] <boghog> game consoles scare me
[03:10] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, you'll need to apt-get all the 32bit libs
[03:10] <boghog> I don't know why
[03:10] <ConstyXIV> MindSpark: buy a dslite
[03:10] <Terrasque> boghog: windows scare me
[03:10] <MindSpark> for some time, when we had lan parties, we'd play bzFlag
[03:10] <MindSpark> but that was it
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> MindSpark: there's some cool games out htere, i'm a fan SPorts games, so i like Madden, NBA Live, etc, but i also like the Grand Theft Auto series
[03:10] <mikubuntu> dutler: or should i make two partitions of 50%?
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ConstyXIV: I have never suc
[03:10] <MindSpark> ConstyXIV, what's a dslite ?
[03:10] <elliotjhug> hoarycripple: great. thanks. Maybe when I reinstall for gutsy I will use 64bit apps :)
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ConstyXIV: lol, I mean never have I been able to get guild wars to run in cedega
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> have they decided what the "H" is gonna be named for the next version of Ubuntu?
[03:11] <ConstyXIV> MindSpark: very slick portable console with quite a few different games
[03:11] <kaveh> hi
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> after gutsy
[03:11] <elliotjhug> elliotjhug: I worded that badly - you know what I mean
[03:11] <ConstyXIV> Paddy_EIRE: try standard wine
[03:11] <MindSpark> ConstyXIV, ok, gotta check that too, I have another problem, which is time !
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ConstyXIV: yeah the dreamcast rocked
[03:11] <praet> IndyGunFreak: Hoary Hedgehog
[03:11] <kaveh> how can i install MAd support for k3b?
[03:11] <dutler>  no. you dont need to swap 4gb... and that would only leave you 4gb to use for files . one of 512mb or less and the rest as /
[03:11] <hoarycripple> elliotjhug, there are a lot of detractors for 64bit, but I like it :)
[03:11] <MindSpark> been trying to go to the movies for the last few months and never managed time
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> praet: i doubt it will be that.
[03:11] <revilodraw> hi i have gnome partition editor, but its not recognising my fat32 mp3 player that i want to format
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> it would be toc onfusing with the old version.
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ConstyXIV: why would the standard version work..?
[03:12] <kaveh> any one?
[03:12] <ConstyXIV> Paddy_EIRE: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=7530
[03:12] <mikubuntu> dutler: but i am having trouble with it right now, would it be *ok* to move through with these numbers as is, and then change them after the install?
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> kaveh: just ask your question
[03:12] <christian> Are you supposed to drive Wine as a normal program in Ubuntu?
[03:12] <praet> IndyGunFreak: doh. you're right.
[03:13] <anandanbu> How to install new  themes and buddy icons for pidgin in Ubuntu 7.04
[03:13] <SlimeyPe1e> christian: yes. "Wine <.exe-file-name>" is the usual way to run it
[03:13] <revilodraw> christian: wine should not be relied on sadly
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> anandanbu: where did you download the themes/icons from?
[03:13] <dutler> one could prob do that.. but its much harder... i would say no to anyone that is not a partition guru
[03:13] <dutler> http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[03:13] <kaveh> IndyGunFreak, my firefox can not play flash and it need also java plugin,how can i install them?
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> !flash | kaveh
[03:14] <ubotu> kaveh: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:14] <anandanbu> IndyGunFreak: i have not yet downloaded it where can i do that
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> !java | kaveh
[03:14] <revilodraw> how do i format my usb device... its a fat device
[03:14] <ubotu> kaveh: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:14] <mikubuntu> dutler: i am not worried about space for files.  i store all my docs and pics online, just will be installing programs
[03:14] <kaveh> 10
[03:14] <praet> IndyGunFreak: i guess watch the lists https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> anandanbu: that was my question, i've not tried any themes for pidgin, and hav eno idea where to get them.
[03:15] <anandanbu> IndyGunFreak: thanks for the info :)
[03:15] <christian> revilodraw: But the exe.file is in a zip-file and I can't open it.
[03:15] <dutler> go for it then
[03:15] <revilodraw> christian; do u have ark?
[03:15] <ferret_0567> teach about advanced masking
[03:15] <ferret_0567> mzbot: teach about advanced masking
[03:15] <christian> revilodraw: nope
[03:16] <ferret_0567> mzbot: teach ferret_0567 about advanced masking
[03:16] <ruivaldo> Hi, i am having a lot of problems with grub error 16, there is some way to prevent it or end with it ? some configuration ?
[03:16] <revilodraw> chrisitian: go into synaptic and get 'ark' its like a linux version of winrar and that should help u open the zip
[03:16] <christian> revilodraw: ok, tnx. :)
[03:17] <m0dY> how do I install ubuntu inside a xen paravirtualized guest?
[03:17] <revilodraw> how do i format my usb device... its a fat device??
[03:17] <ferret_0567> wtf is this advanced masking thing?
[03:17] <ferret_0567> nvm
[03:17] <praet> ruivaldo: are you dual booting?
[03:17] <fyrestrtr> revilodraw: insert the device; wait for the icon to show up on the desktop, right click on the icon, choose Format.
[03:17] <Pici> ferret_0567: try the gentoo channels, not here :)
[03:17] <revilodraw> fyrestrtr
[03:18] <ruivaldo> praet, ya. in our server we have two hds. one is a backup. both use reiserfs.
[03:18] <gvsa123> got wine... i'll try it out first.
[03:18] <revilodraw> fyrestrtr: yeh in windows maybe.. not ubuntu
[03:18] <Fa-sum`> in ubuntu amd64, to run ALSA correctly, you need lib32asound
[03:18] <ruivaldo> praet, they are partitioned. one partition is just for the homes.
[03:18] <Fa-sum`> you must write this somewhere!
[03:19] <fyrestrtr> revilodraw: yes, in ubuntu.
[03:19] <ubuntu> hello
[03:19] <revilodraw> fyrestartr: sadly not for me
[03:19] <m0dY> how do I install ubuntu inside a xen paravirtualized guest?
[03:20] <ruivaldo> praet, some idea ?
[03:20] <Starbucks_needs_> how can i change the keyboad lazout_
[03:21] <revilodraw> hi, how do i format a usb device?
[03:21] <Starbucks_needs_> anyone here that can help me with my grub problem
[03:22] <misc--> bloody hell this is a big channel
[03:23] <revilodraw> starbucks: grub problems suck, but someone will help u..be specific
[03:23] <Pici> !ask
[03:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:24] <Starbucks_needs_> k i had two harddisks 1 for XP *hd1 and one with three partition for ubuntu and files, now someone deleted the partition with ubuntu on it
[03:24] <drock> How do I get Shoutcast TV streams working in VLC?
[03:24] <Starbucks_needs_> and i get the Error message 17
[03:24] <SettlerX> hey
[03:24] <jetscreamer> grub cant find /boot/grub, that's why
[03:24] <jetscreamer> use a grub floppy
[03:24] <SettlerX> Xubuntu LiveCD is really slow. CD disc spins with low speed. How to speed it up?
[03:24] <revilodraw> how do i format my usb device??
[03:24] <Starbucks_needs_> jetscreamer: i dont have a floppy
[03:25] <revilodraw> starbucks: do u have the super grub disc?
[03:25] <jetscreamer> use the cd
[03:25] <Starbucks_needs_> i tried the super grub disk, but its not loading
[03:25] <miss_33> go in my pv
[03:25] <Starbucks_needs_> it starts it and loads something than it stops
[03:25] <drock> Yeah, SUper Grub Disk FTW
[03:25] <revilodraw> starbucks: lol ok i dont know
[03:25] <Fa-sum`> revilodraw, just press ctrl+h in nautilus on device's directory
[03:25] <Fa-sum`> and you'll see .Trash directory
[03:25] <xkyotox> how can i tunnel all my trafik through my ssh tunnel?
[03:25] <Fa-sum`> then delete it
[03:25] <revilodraw> fa-sum; thanks!!!
[03:25] <Dorothy_> need a little help with acpi if anyone knows
[03:26] <drock> Shoutcast and VLC. anyone?
[03:27] <gvsa123> ok it's working! the problem is, where did wine install the application? i accepted the default settings for windows.
[03:27] <blah569> Would it be bad to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive?  (USB 2.0)
[03:27] <SettlerX> Can I set higher speed of CD-ROM during using LiveCD?
[03:27] <mudpuddlestones> no but it would be slow
[03:27] <xkyotox>  how can i tunnel all my trafik through my ssh tunnel?
[03:27] <revilodraw> fasum: that didnt format the drive
[03:28] <mudpuddlestones> install then change your BIOS to boot from there
[03:28] <snowmoon> xkyotox: man ssh look for the
[03:28] <blah569> Would it be bad to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive?  (USB 2.0)
[03:28] <snowmoon> xkyotox: ssh -D option
[03:28] <blah569> bad idea*
[03:28] <drock> xkyotox: socks proxy
[03:29] <Djoerdy> anyone here working successfull with two monitors?
[03:29] <mudpuddlestones> any of you smart Ubuntu users think you might be able to help me with this http://www.blender.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=63260#63260
[03:29] <blah569> Would it a  bad idea to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive?  (USB 2.0)
[03:29] <blah569> There we go
[03:29] <revilodraw> djoerdy; i would like to know too
[03:29] <xkyotox> snowmoon, i have done that. but then i have to set that in avery program..
[03:29] <mudpuddlestones> blah, no it would be slow
[03:29] <blah569> Urghhh
[03:29] <mudpuddlestones> though
[03:29] <snowmoon> xkyotox: good luck
[03:29] <Djoerdy> i have been working for serveral days on this problem by now
[03:29] <Djoerdy> and i only destroy my x-server each try
[03:29] <xkyotox> snowmoon, cant a force all trafick?
[03:29] <revilodraw> how do i format my usb device?
[03:30] <mudpuddlestones> why not repartition
[03:30] <drock> xkyotox: may help --> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[03:30] <uforar> anyone able to help with a bit of a problem with X an 8800GTX and no gfx?
[03:30] <snowmoon> xkyotox: If you control both endpoints you can try -w
[03:30] <Aren_> hi
[03:30] <xkyotox> snowmoon,  what dose -w?
[03:30] <snowmoon> man ssh
[03:30] <xkyotox> THX drock
[03:31] <drock> xkyotox: its just for web browsing, but I'm sure you could proxy FTP gopher etc ...
[03:31] <blah569> This looks awesome (It might be old news to you, but I still think its awesome)
[03:31] <blah569> http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
[03:31] <revilodraw> how do i format my usb device?
[03:31] <boghog> hi. I moved my ubuntu and swap partition to a new disk, and now I need to reinstall grub, does anyone know where to find the docs on how to install grub without reinstalling ubuntu form scratch?
[03:32] <SlimeyPe1e> !grub
[03:32] <Pici> !grub | boghog :)
[03:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:32] <ubotu> boghog :): please see above
[03:32] <boghog> or can I use the generic grub docs for that? I don't know if I need anything special for ubuntu
[03:32] <boghog> ah
[03:32] <boghog> thanks !
[03:32] <genii> also man grub-install
[03:32] <Falstius> revilodraw: fdisk and then mkfs.vfat or mkfs.ext2
[03:32] <ubuntu> helllo
[03:32] <revilodraw> falstius: thanks
[03:33] <uforar> My live cd boot failed and hung at a blank screen, had to use "nosplash noapic nolapic" to get the live cd to even boot. Installed ubuntu 7.04, rebooted without the CD and its doing the same thing as previous to the "nosplash etc etc" .. when i try and start X in recov mode it says no screens found.. anyone help me please?
[03:34] <uforar> x86_64 architechure, 8800 GTX gfx card,
[03:35] <gvsa123> are you supposed to install windows before you do ubuntu?
[03:35] <gvsa123> are you NOT supposed to install windows before you do ubuntu?
[03:35] <SlimeyPe1e> gvsa123: it's best to install Windows first.
[03:35] <Frogzoo> gvsa123: for dual boot, it's easiest to do windows first
[03:35] <revilodraw> uforar: have u tried something like "dpkg reconfigure xserver"
[03:35] <christian> revilodraw: I downloaded ark, but I got the error 'The utility unrar is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator'
[03:35] <christian> but it is a zip-file
[03:35] <genii> uforar: hit ESC when grub prompt. go to the kernel line it should be loading. edit to put the options you used before (nosplash noapic etc). Try booting. If comes up edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to make it stick
[03:36] <Frogzoo> revilodraw: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:36] <christian> ... or, I use ark to open it, but when I've done that, it is a rar-file
[03:36] <revilodraw> frogzoo: thanks thats the one... that might help uforar
[03:36] <uforar> revilodraw: nope, will give it a go tho (pretty new at this) thanks
[03:37] <gvsa123> oh i thought someone was asking about installing ubuntu and windows...\
[03:37] <revilodraw> uforar: learn to love ubuntu... it will pose lots of problems at first, but its all worth it, and u realise that the first time u use windows after ubuntu
[03:37] <lysdexsik> hiho
[03:38] <kiRite> yeah
[03:39] <Arafangion> revilodraw: That's funny, Ubuntu didn't pose any problems for me, but now that I've used it for a while, I've got quite a few problems with it. :)
[03:40] <federico> #2yellows
[03:40] <Arafangion> revilodraw: Let's not even discuss windows, though. :)
[03:40] <christian> revilodraw: Am I just have to type wine 'nameoftheexefile' to drive it?
[03:40] <christian> no more?
[03:40] <kaveh> hi again
[03:40] <Arafangion> christian: Pretty much, but it is rather hit-and-miss which applications work with wine.
[03:40] <revilodraw> chrisitian: yes i think so...i just double click though
[03:40] <kaveh> how can i swich my window manager to kde?
[03:41] <revilodraw> kaveh: i tried it... not worth it
[03:41] <kiRite> log out
[03:41] <spiekey> hi
[03:41] <christian> aight
[03:41] <Arafangion> revilodraw: A matter of opinion.
[03:41] <SlimeyPe1e> kaveh: use apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop, then log out and select kde
[03:41] <savetheWorld> kaveh: one way is to install kubuntu
[03:41] <spiekey> where can i change the umask value golbally in ubuntu?
[03:41] <fyrestrtr> kaveh: kde is a desktop environment; not a window manager -- but to get it sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <kaveh> thanks
[03:41] <Arafangion> SlimeyPe1e: You left out the important keyword - select *session*.
[03:41] <kaveh> alot
[03:41] <savetheWorld> looks like SlimeyPe1e has the best way to do it.
[03:41] <revilodraw> arafangion: yes, we r both opinionated lol!! well i ran into lots of difficulty
[03:41] <kiRite> select kde in session menu
[03:41] <SlimeyPe1e> Arafangion: ah yeah
[03:42] <spiekey> i changed it in /etc/login.defs, but when i now log in its still 022
[03:42] <savetheWorld> kaveh: most developers seem to prefer KDE so some people feel it is worth it.
[03:42] <spiekey> (i set it to 007)
[03:42] <kaveh> another question i need persian when i want to login to gnome
[03:42] <Arafangion> revilodraw: I actually use windows more - but not by choice :( I'm a seasoned linux user, so I reckon I've simply learnt enough of linux to actually see its flaws.
[03:42] <kaveh> thanks alot guys fror replay
[03:42] <mudpuddlestones> Djoerdy, what GFX card?
[03:43] <Djoerdy> i810
[03:43] <revilodraw> ?arafangion: well, being a seasoned linux user, do u know how to format a usb disk
[03:43] <fyrestrtr> revilodraw: I already told you how, did it not work?
[03:44] <mudpuddlestones> one munite, lt me find something
[03:44] <jonathan__> somebody know how to get cool sidebar for ubuntu?
[03:44] <jonathan__> like vista
[03:44] <kaveh> SlimeyPe1e, do you know how can  i install support for persian desktop on gnome?
[03:44] <revilodraw> fyrestrt: no i get "fdisk /media/M-ROBE
[03:44] <revilodraw> You will not be able to write the partition table.
[03:44] <revilodraw> Unable to read /media/M-ROBE
[03:44] <revilodraw> "
[03:44] <revilodraw> oopps sorry
[03:44] <Arafangion> revilodraw: Yes, see man mkfs.vfat, after installing the appropriate package.
[03:44] <jonathan__> anybody here?
[03:45] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded from Ubuntu Edgy (which was a fresh install using upstart) to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel "unknown". I always have to login and run `telinit 3` (sic!) to start all the daemons and the dm. `telinit 2` results in `runlevel` => "unknown", too. There's no inittab file and no "single" or similar argument in /proc/cmdline. What is wrong here?
[03:45] <mudpuddlestones> dual heads, follow this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[03:45] <Arafangion> revilodraw: And use dmesg to determine which device you should be using, or just allow it to automount, and use /proc/mounts to see the device - then unmount it - you never format a mounted device.
[03:45] <jonathan__> anybody know?
[03:45] <jonathan__> to get sidebar for ubuntu?
[03:46] <revilodraw> arafangion: aaahhh ok
[03:46] <Arafangion> revilodraw: From memory, it's usually fat16, but I tend to use ext3 when I reformat them. ;)
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> kaveh: sudo aptitude install language-pack-gnome-fa language-pack-gnome-fa-base
[03:46] <jonathan__> huh
[03:46] <Djoerdy> thx mudpuddlestones but i followed the thread and was not able to finish it with success
[03:46] <Arafangion> revilodraw: At least, that's what I did with my 40gb "recycled" laptop HDD, put it into a usb enclosure :)
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> vlt: what tha heck is 'upstart'?
[03:46] <mudpuddlestones> Djoerdy, get that link?
[03:47] <mudpuddlestones> opps sorry
[03:47] <Djoerdy> yes
[03:47] <revilodraw> arafangion: its a mp3 player though so i think it will need to be fat32
[03:47] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: Ubuntu's fancy replacement for the debian-style bootscripts.
[03:47] <mudpuddlestones> hmmm, what are the symptoms?
[03:47] <Arafangion> fyrestrtr: A good idea, for laptops, though.
[03:47] <Djoerdy> wrong or no monitor found on pipe b
[03:48] <Djoerdy> is the error message in the xorg0log
[03:48] <Djoerdy> and one monitor is working
[03:48] <fyrestrtr> oh yeah, I remember now. Supposedly they found a better way to do init scripts.
[03:48] <mudpuddlestones> desktop or laptop?
[03:48] <kaveh> fyrestrtr, thanks so much
[03:48] <Djoerdy> Thinkpad T43 with a Samsung extern
[03:48] <mudpuddlestones> hmm
[03:49] <Djoerdy> he recognisses the extern as a CRT but it isnt
[03:49] <Arafangion> *sigh*, windows is trying to convince me to upgrade my laptop.
[03:49] <redmondkiller> heyho :-)
[03:49] <Some_Person> how do i completely shut down and restart X?
[03:49] <fyrestrtr> kaveh: your welcome.
[03:49] <Djoerdy> i can say him what i want in the xorg conf its allways wrong
[03:49] <Arafangion> Visual Studio is a /pig/.
[03:49] <taxman> hello all, anyone know the reasoning why a new user added with adduser isn't added to the sound group by default?
[03:49] <mudpuddlestones> crt is ppe in this caseyort not monitor t
[03:50] <mudpuddlestones> opps
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> Some_Person: logout, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:50] <mudpuddlestones> port not monitor type
[03:50] <MindSpark> Some_Person, ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> taxman: because you didn't add the user to the group :)
[03:50] <Arafangion> taxman: Because it isn't.  Most admins write their own adduser scripts.
[03:50] <hamzzzz> irc.phazenet.com
[03:50] <Some_Person> but that breaks my mouse pointer
[03:50] <revilodraw> k this is way too hard to format a usb device
[03:50] <Some_Person> on this live cd
[03:50] <Djoerdy> ok so it is right if i tell him as monitor layout "LFP, CRT" ?
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> revilodraw: install gparted
[03:50] <mudpuddlestones> yes
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> Djoerdy: does your laptop have ATI?
[03:51] <revilodraw> fystrtr: i have! it doesnt recognise the device
[03:51] <Arafangion> revilodraw: There's probably an easier way with ubuntu, but I'm old-school. :)
[03:51] <taxman> fyrestrtr: I understand that, my point is for the average family, they shouldn't have to research that type of thing to make their desktop work
[03:51] <Djoerdy> no fyrestrtr its an i810 card
[03:51] <mudpuddlestones> average family equals the Hills
[03:51] <mudpuddlestones> hank
[03:51] <mudpuddlestones> bobby
[03:51] <mudpuddlestones> peggy
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> taxman: raise it as an enchancement request in launchpad.
[03:51] <Arafangion> taxman: I find ubuntu to be heaps easier to install and use than windows.
[03:51] <Djoerdy> mudpuddlestones how important is the correct definition of the modes in the xorg
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> Djoerdy: the wrong definitions may render your monitor useless.
[03:52] <mudpuddlestones> pretty I think cause it tells xserver where to send output
[03:52] <taxman> Arafangion: I do to, this is just one area that needs improvement. Good idea fyrestrtr
[03:52] <Djoerdy> i did it after the monitor manual but i am not quite sure about this part
[03:52] <mudpuddlestones> but I'm no master, I just solved the problem the other day myself
[03:52] <Some_Person> how do i completely stop and restart X/GDM from command line?
[03:52] <revilodraw> thanks everyone goodnight
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> Some_Person: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:53] <Arafangion> taxman: A 'System' adduser menu entry would be rather nice, indeed.
[03:53] <faileas> Arafangion: its more that older windows was REALLY crappy, and linux runs happy on the same hardware ;)
[03:53] <mudpuddlestones> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:53] <Arafangion> faileas: And that modern windows is /really/ expensive.
[03:53] <loswillios> hi
[03:53] <loswillios> I have a problem with nvidia-drivers
[03:53] <loswillios> ERROR: API mismatch: The nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this X module has the version 1.0-9631
[03:53] <Arafangion> faileas: windows + office is easily $1500, unless you get it with a computer.
[03:53] <faileas> Arafangion: http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free is quite a nice article, really ;)
[03:53] <mudpuddlestones> I'm looking at my xorg .conf right now
[03:54] <faileas> Arafangion: and no reason you shouldn't if you need it
[03:54] <faileas> or as i do, MSDNAA
[03:54] <Djoerdy> mine is open too ^^
[03:54] <Some_Person> no, how do i kill gdm/X and then be able to type gdm to restart it?
[03:54] <loswillios> I think nvidia-kernel-* is provided by linux-restricted-modules
[03:54] <Arafangion> faileas: I have a friend who's trying to get an OS for her computer, it's a 300MHz system, but she finding it unbelievably difficult to do so.
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: this issue is documented in the wiki
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> Section "Device"
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> 	Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> 	Driver      "fglrx"
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> 	Option	    "DesktopSetup" "horizontal"
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> 	Option	    "Capabilities" "0x00000800"
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> 	Option	    "PairModes" "0x0+0x0"
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> 	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > loswillios
[03:54] <mudpuddlestones> waht thu? look like for yois
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> mudpuddlestones: stop pasting in here.
[03:54] <Some_Person> !paste | mudpuddlestones
[03:54] <ubotu> mudpuddlestones: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:55] <Arafangion> faileas: She was not impressed when I told her that vista wouldn't work on it, just before she was about to buy it, luckly she told me what she was getting then!
[03:55] <taxman> fyrestrtr: it appears https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool is a pretty easy way to add suggestions. Not sure if they get much attention vs launchpad or not
[03:55] <mudpuddlestones> it was an accident
[03:55] <mudpuddlestones> are you the monitor?
[03:55] <Arafangion> faileas: And it's impossible to get older versions as a typical consumer.
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> taxman: that's a new one for me @ IdeaPool.
[03:55] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: thanks. now I have to get X to work before to see the solution
[03:55] <Some_Person> how do i kill gdm/X and then be able to type gdm to restart it?
[03:55] <MindSpark> the only thing I am missing in linux is the firewire audio interface drivers
[03:55] <fyrestrtr> 16:52 < fyrestrtr> Some_Person: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:56] <SlimeyPe1e> Some_Person: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", then to start "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" ?
[03:56] <mudpuddlestones> fyrestrtr: are you the room monitor?
[03:56] <Some_Person> ok, slimeypele
[03:56] <faileas> Arafangion: funny, but i got most of my old windows... floppies ;p
[03:56] <Arafangion> taxman: Imho, the problem is not that we lack ideas, the problem is that of implementation and getting companies to agree on them.
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: change 'nivida' to 'nv' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and login, then read the wiki.
[03:57] <Arafangion> taxman: It's be SWEET if nvidia, ati, and xorg to agree on a common configuration framework to allow users to just 'open the display properties and modify the settings'.
[03:57] <paul___> Hello, I'm having a problem with my web forms after installing ubuntu server. I was wondering if I could talk to someone.
[03:57] <mudpuddlestones> ah one of those then: kma.
[03:58] <MindSpark> paul___, I am not sure IRC supports voice, but you can definitely type :P
[03:58] <paul___> righto :)
[03:58] <MindSpark> damn, I haven't slept enough and my jokes are becoming lamer with time
[03:58] <MindSpark> paul___, what forms ?
[03:58] <taxman> Arafangion: well unfortunately I lack coding skills, so the best thing I can do is help with suggestions to make the desktop experience better
[03:58] <paul___> the forms aren't talking to my campus mail server
[03:59] <Arafangion> taxman: I just lack time. :(
[03:59] <Arafangion> taxman: Writing a portable gaming framework that works on all OS's. :) (Using wine, though)
[03:59] <taxman> Arafangion: get hired by canonical, then go to work :)
[03:59] <Terrasque> Arafangion: opengl + sdl?
[04:00] <MindSpark> paul___, what forms ?
[04:00] <paul___> I was using Mandriva before I switched to Ubuntu and the forms were working fine.
[04:00] <Arafangion> Terrasque: It's got alot of legacy code, which is DirectX, but it's 2D, so shouldn't really be all that difficult to port, really.
[04:00] <fyrestrtr> paul___: why did you switch?
[04:00] <paul___> book order forms, askalibrarian forms, etc
[04:00] <Arafangion> Terrasque: But it works really well on wine, except for the networking code, for some reason.
[04:00] <Terrasque> ok
[04:00] <MindSpark> paul___, are we talking about web app form ?
[04:00] <mudpuddlestones> Djoerdy: is your xorg.conf backed up?
[04:01] <Arafangion> Terrasque: It's a uni project, gotta get the marks first. :)
[04:01] <paul___> I switched because when I went to update from Mandriva 2006 to 2007 the install crapped out
[04:01] <Djoerdy> yes it i
[04:01] <Djoerdy> s
[04:01] <fyrestrtr> paul___: is this a production machine or your own personal server?
[04:01] <paul___> yeah, they are web forms
[04:01] <paul___> a production machine for my library
[04:01] <Djoerdy> i fragged it so often i really needed this^^
[04:01] <Terrasque> Arafangion: of course, everything should be done with python and pygame :D
[04:01] <MindSpark> paul___, maybe you have a firewall installed that doesn't allow outgoing connections ?
[04:01] <Arafangion> paul___: Ubuntu and particularly Debian are better at that, but just remember that if you install /any/ third-party application, the upgrade will be less smooth, particularly as you install more and more third-party programs.
[04:02] <Arafangion> Terrasque: This is with Lua. :)
[04:02] <Terrasque> Arafangion: And cpus understood python natively. that would be my perfect world.
[04:02] <paul___> this is a pretty basic lamp installation of ubuntu server
[04:02] <Arafangion> Terrasque: Some guy's already partially made an OpenGL port, actually, so it's possible to do, anyway.
[04:02] <mudpuddlestones> did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[04:02] <paul___> I installed Postfix also
[04:03] <paul___> but nothing else ...
[04:03] <Terrasque> Arafangion: never underestimate the power of some guy on the internet! :D
[04:03] <Djoerdy> i once did at the start of my attemps to run this system
[04:03] <paul___> It's ubuntu server 6.06
[04:03] <Arafangion> Terrasque: I don't think I could've easily done this with python...  Python's a PITA to embed, and I'm using multiple VM's simultaniously.
[04:03] <mudpuddlestones> try it again, I'm trying to trace back what I did
[04:03] <Arafangion> Terrasque: And it's alot slower than lua.
[04:04] <Lanf> paul, so if it's a lamp server your webforms are presumably php.  do the webforms have a php version requirement?  and if yes, does ubuntu 6 have that version or higher of php?
[04:04] <Terrasque> Arafangion: and alot sexier ;)
[04:04] <faileas> Lanf: major version requrements, and yes
[04:04] <paul___> Lanf: php is working. the site runs on PmWiki and it is php based
[04:05] <Djoerdy> ok
[04:05] <mudpuddlestones> after reconfig, try again one of the methods from : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[04:05] <Araen> AAAH, crotte, c'est en anglais
[04:05] <Arafangion> Terrasque: Well, there's a number of things I don't like about lua, incidentially.  The lua binding was also legacy code. :)
[04:05] <Lanf> paul: ok.  so what exactly is wrong with the webforms?
[04:05] <Djoerdy> you have a xinemara system?
[04:05] <Araen> bon, on va essayer de faire avec...
[04:05] <paul___> they don't send email any longer.
[04:05] <Terrasque> Arafangion: actually python can be pretty fast is you use psyco
[04:05] <Araen> hello all
[04:05] <compwiz18> does anyone know what port 2869 is used for?
[04:06] <Arafangion> Terrasque: Only on x86, but even then, I doubt it can beat hand-optimized C++ and Lua.
[04:06] <Klln25> Fora
[04:06] <mudpuddlestones> no BigDesktop, I have ATI GFX
[04:06] <Fora> Ne
[04:06] <Fora> :D
[04:06] <Fora> A.q
[04:06] <Fora> :D
[04:06] <Klln25> gordun mu maLi
[04:06] <Klln25> a.q
[04:06] <Klln25> :D
[04:06] <paul___> a person hits submit and the form works but no emails show up
[04:06] <Araen> ok, so this is my problem ( i don't speak english, i'm french =/ )
[04:06] <Lanf> paul: have you checked any error logs?
[04:06] <dooglus> compwiz18: Port number: 2869
[04:06] <dooglus> Common name(s): ssdp, icslap
[04:06] <dooglus> Common service(s): Universal Plug And Play Service, SSDP, ICSLAP
[04:06] <marshcast> could anyone suggest the quickest way to find out the speed of my internet connection? I'm suffering with streaming and need to know if it's the pc or the connection...
[04:06] <Arafangion> Terrasque: I must head off to bed, g'night.
[04:06] <Araen> i installed windows on my computer and now i can't to boot on my ubuntu
[04:06] <marshcast> ^please :)
[04:06] <mudpuddlestones> and my config doesn't use the LFT, CRT method
[04:06] <Araen> why ?
[04:07] <Klln25> arean
[04:07] <paul___> what's an error log? :)
[04:07] <Terrasque> Arafangion: thats why we need hardware that can run python natively at blinding speed!
[04:07] <Klln25> hey arean
[04:07] <Terrasque> Arafangion: good night
[04:07] <kitche> !grub | Araen windows overwrites the bootloader
[04:07] <ubotu> Araen windows overwrites the bootloader: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:07] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: sorry I can't find it on the wiki. Can you give me more hints please?
[04:07] <Lanf> paul: haha. :P  that's bad.  well, I'd look in /var/log/mail.err and see if it's a problem with postfix
[04:07] <Araen> ( :'( je comprend rien... ^^ )
[04:07] <uptownben> What would be the smallest fastest lightest version of UBUNTU I can get to install on a machine with 256MB RAM, 4GB drive and no swap?
[04:08] <edobbs> uptownben: probably xubuntu
[04:08] <jhemono> hello
[04:08] <paul___> lanf: sounds like a plan!
[04:08] <Lanf> paul: I'd look in /var/log/mail.* actually.
[04:08] <edobbs> install it, strip out the packages you know you don't need, it should work fine
[04:08] <edobbs> i've done the same sort of install, but on an old pii/300 box w/ 256MB
[04:08] <Araen> somewho ( ca se dit a ? ) speak french here ?
[04:08] <paul___> Lanf: ok, will do
[04:08] <cdavis> I am running dapper lts and cannot find the libmysql-dev package?
[04:09] <jhemono> i speak french
[04:09] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: how did you install the drivers?
[04:09] <Araen> youpi, very well ?
[04:09] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: somehow linux-restricted-modules fails to detect my card properly and uses an old on instead (= old drivers)
[04:09] <jhemono> yes
[04:09] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: via aptitude
[04:09] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: what card is it?
[04:09] <Araen> jhemono: peux tu m'aider pour mon problme ?? ^^
[04:09] <marshcast> no-one? no-one can tell me how to test my connection speed?
[04:09] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: nVidia Corporation NV20 [GeForce3 Ti 200]  (rev a3)
[04:10] <jhemono> tu devait aller sur #ubuntu-fr
[04:10] <Lanf> marshcast: you mean what your network is negotiated to?
[04:10] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: I was told to use the 96xx (=nvidia-glx)
[04:10] <Lanf> marshcast: /usr/sbin/ethtool eth0
[04:10] <Araen> jhemono: sur ce serveur ?
[04:10] <jhemono> oui
[04:10] <jhemono> j'y vai
[04:10] <gcostello> !french > Araen
[04:10] <uptownben> This is what I have, I tried PUPPYLINUX on this same machine and it was screaming! fast.light, but I want something more flexible where I can install an app and not break everything.
[04:11] <uptownben> When I installed XUBUNTU on the same machine (had to use alt ISO), it works but it seems sluggish, how can I clean it up?
[04:11] <uptownben> speed it up?
[04:11] <Lanf> marshcast: that's only what your NIC is negotiated to though.  there are any number of places between your NIC and wherever you're connecting to that can slow you down
[04:11] <edobbs> uptownben: figure out what apps you actually need (firefox, mail, whatever) and start removing packages that aren't used
[04:11] <milbona> irc://irc.7chan.org/7chan
[04:12] <edobbs> first thing - check and see what services are running w/ `ps ax`
[04:12] <daedra> help! I get an "error in locking authority file" when I try to ssh localhost -X
[04:12] <edobbs> if you don't need printing support, for example, you can go through and remove the print daemon packages
[04:12] <daedra> .Xauthority
[04:13] <edobbs> there's some things, like dbus/HAL, that pretty much have to stay if you want a working system
[04:13] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: should I try a manual install of the drivers?
[04:13] <uptownben> There is this REALLY long delay on startup also, where it says loading hardware drivers...
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: yes.
[04:13] <paul___> Lanf: I see several msgs. cut and paste isn't working so I haveto type.
[04:13] <edobbs> but there's a lot of bits that can be removed if you don't care about a big glossy pretty system
[04:13] <fyrestrtr> use the steps for edgy
[04:13] <uptownben> steps for edgy?
[04:14] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual ?
[04:14] <uptownben> I'm going to boot into XUBUNTU now and try removing stuff.
[04:14] <paul___> Lanf: postfix [8987]  error: to submit mail, use the Postfix sendmail command
[04:14] <daedra> help! I get an "error in locking authority file" when I try to ssh localhost -X
[04:14] <loswillios> maybe I should try envy...
[04:14] <uptownben> brb
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: no, don't try envy.
[04:15] <fyrestrtr> loswillios: try the manual steps
[04:15] <loswillios> oki then
[04:15] <paul___> Lanf: fatal: the postfix command is reserved for the superuser
[04:15] <bullgard4> man tty writes: "The full documentation for tty is maintained as a Texinfo  manual. If the info and tty programs are properly installed at your site, the command info tty should give you access to the complete manual." What program package do I have to install for info tty?
[04:16] <Lanf> paul: that sounds like the webform is trying to use a binary that it shouldn't for sending mail.  see whether you can find in the php code where it specifies what binary to use for emailing
[04:16] <marshcast> wicked - thanks Lanf ...
[04:16] <Lanf> marshcast: no problem :)
[04:17] <cdavis> I am running dapper lts and cannot find the libmysql-dev package?
[04:18] <paul___> Lanf: I believe PmWiki web forms use php?
[04:19] <Lanf> paul: it uses php classes to send mail?  it doesn't call an external program?
[04:19] <paul___> yes, I believe that's right
[04:19] <meoblast001> hello is it possible to get the large 600 MG image of Ubuntu to boot off Flash drive
[04:19] <meoblast001> ?
[04:20] <Lanf> paul: hmm, that makes it tougher.
[04:20] <dgjones> meoblast001, do you want to install using a usb flash driver?
[04:20] <meoblast001> dgjones: yes but i want to use the large image
[04:20] <tek586_> anyone here
[04:20] <Frogzoo_> cdavis: libmysql++-dev ?
[04:20] <tek586_> hello
[04:20] <kitche> !install | meoblast001
[04:20] <ubotu> meoblast001: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[04:21] <daedra> help! I get an "error in locking authority file" when I try to ssh localhost -X
[04:21] <eontastico> howdy people
[04:21] <paul___> Lanf: perhaps I should check PmWiki's irc...
[04:21] <kitche> meoblast001, the first link is probably waht you want
[04:21] <eontastico> I have Ubuntu 7.04 Server and some files are getting checksum errors after i copy them over to it
[04:21] <paul___> Lanf: thanks for your help.
[04:21] <eontastico> i tried all new hardware
[04:21] <eontastico> same thing
[04:21] <eontastico> is this a bug?  and if so can I fix it
[04:22] <meoblast001> kitche; ok this explains what i messed up on last time
[04:22] <meoblast001> thanx
[04:22] <uptownben> Can someone give me an example of something I could remove that is installed by default that could help me improve performance on my 256MB/4GB system?
[04:22] <wolferine> eontastico, how are you 'copying them over' ?
[04:22] <Lanf> paul: good luck
[04:22] <meoblast001> kitche: ill start downloading the image again (Wubi Ubuntu just crashed my computer when i hit the Shut Down button)
[04:22] <eontastico> wolferine: SMB, flash drive, ftp, doesnt matter --- actually i can even download a file from the web straight to teh box
[04:22] <vlt> Any idea how to fix problem with upstart and runlevel "unknown"?
[04:22] <eontastico> and it still corrupts
[04:23] <tek586_> Can anyone do a remote session and fix my stinking wifi
[04:23] <Some_Person> Hey, I figured out how to use the nVidia GLX driver on the live cd! Where should I post?
[04:23] <wolferine> eontastico, everything is going through your network card, and is becoming corrupt?
[04:23] <eontastico> wolferine: well i have transferred via flash drive
[04:23] <meoblast001> kitche: one more thing... can i put this on the disk from Fedora??
[04:23] <eontastico> and it still corrupts
[04:23] <daedra> tek586_: I can have a go at helping over IRC
[04:23] <eontastico> wolferine: i replaced the NIC too
[04:23] <daedra> I've setup wifi on a few linuxes
[04:24] <vic1ous> hey can anyone tell me why i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[04:24] <Frogzoo_> vlt: what's the issue?
[04:24] <wolferine> eontastico, are the original files on a corrupt system?
[04:24] <daedra> help! I get an "error in locking authority file" when I try to ssh localhost -X
[04:24] <uptownben> I need to strip this ting down to make it lighter
[04:24] <uptownben> any ideas?
[04:24] <kitche> meoblast001, probably I never tried putting an iso on my usb flash to boot from
[04:24] <tek586_> daedra: Tell what I need to do
[04:24] <eontastico> wolferine: no, the original files pass md5sum on the original box
[04:24] <vlt> Hello Frogzoo_. I just upgraded from Ubuntu Edgy (which was a fresh install using upstart) to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel "unknown". I always have to login and run `telinit 3` (sic!) to start all the daemons and the dm. `telinit 2` results in `runlevel` => "unknown", too. There's no inittab file and no "single" or similar argument in /proc/cmdline. What is wrong here?
[04:24] <meoblast001> kitche: ok
[04:24] <adnan_> hi
[04:24] <vic1ous> hey can anyone tell me why i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[04:24] <daedra> tek586_: well first what is your wifi chipset
[04:25] <wolferine> eontastico, you need to narrow your 'issue search' down more
[04:25] <daedra> tek586_: run iwconfig to see if the module is loaded for your wifi card. You should get a list saying eth0... wlan0...
[04:25] <eontastico> wolferine: meaning?
[04:25] <daedra> help! I get an "error in locking authority file" when I try to ssh localhost -X
[04:25] <tek586_> Not sure I have a Dell 1501, my wifi card is a 1390.
[04:25] <Frogzoo_> vlt: well firstly it will boot to runlevel 2 by default, & secondly there's no inittab because upstart uses /etc/event.d/
[04:25] <wolferine> eontastico, is it the hard drive your writing to?
[04:26] <daedra> tek586_: Ah so an intel chipset
[04:26] <wolferine> eontastico, what types of files, are they different file systems?
[04:26] <vlt> Frogzoo_: Yes. The missing inittab is not my problem, that was to help you analyze.
[04:26] <desertc> What was with the Vorbis security update today?  Someone make a "killer song" ??  ;)
[04:26] <cdavis> Frogzoo_, that package doesn't exist,  the only dev I have is libmysqlclient15-dev
[04:26] <wolferine> eontastico, is your checksum tool working properly
[04:26] <Frogzoo_> vlt: is your problem that you're not starting your demons from /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[04:26] <vlt> Frogzoo_: The runlevel after booting is now "unknown".
[04:27] <uptownben> Anyone know why there is a long delay when XUBUNTU boots up? When I look at the console (ALT-F8) during boot it just stops after Loading Hardware drivers... the nework comes up but ti still sits there for about 90 seconds.
[04:27] <daedra> help! I get an "error in locking authority file" when I try to ssh localhost -X
[04:27] <eontastico> wolferine: well, the files are readable on the first system if they past the checksum
[04:27] <tek586_> daedra: This what I am getting when I ran the iwconfig :Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[04:27] <cdavis> how do I tell what package provides md5.h
[04:27] <daedra> tek586_: Ok im reading up about the Intel Pro Wireless Adapter
[04:27] <eontastico> wolferine: so i know the files are being corrupted on the second system
[04:27] <eontastico> i just dont know how
[04:28] <vlt> Frogzoo_: Yes, because the system doesn't enter 2 the daemons don't start. Even when I run `telinit 2` it stays in level "unknown". I need to run `telinit 3 `.
[04:28] <tek586_> My wifi light is lit though
[04:28] <wolferine> eontastico, well, read my previous posts...
[04:28] <vic1ous> hey can anyone tell me why i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[04:28] <Lanf> daedra: check permissions and ownership on your .Xauthority file
[04:28] <daedra> tek586_: Ok your card IS supported (wohoo) you just need to associate yourself with your router
[04:28] <meoblast001> who knows how to format a disk to FAT16/
[04:28] <meoblast001> ?
[04:28] <Frogzoo_> vlt: from grub, disable splash & quiet, & see what's broken maybe
[04:28] <tek586_> How the heck do I that!!!!!!!!!
[04:28] <daedra> tek586_: ok... calm down
[04:28] <lmosher> After a fresh install, what's the preferred method to install Nvidia drivers? Is the latest (beta) still the best choice? I have a 7800Go
[04:29] <vlt> Frogzoo_: splash and quiet are already disables. No error msgs that I#d be aware of.
[04:29] <Frogzoo_> cdavis: apt-cache search libmysql
[04:29] <daedra> tek586_: I'm going to make a script for your wifi card
[04:29] <tek586_> ok thanks
[04:30] <incorrect> i am looking for a similar tool to visio to drag pretty diagrams, dia and xfig really aren't good enough
[04:30] <incorrect> any other suggestions?
[04:31] <MindSpark> incorrect, try inkscape, although it's not necessarily for diagrams
[04:31] <vlt> Frogzoo_: Is there a way to scroll up the boot messages? Are these lines logged somewhere?
[04:31] <wolferine> incorrect, use wine and setup office?
[04:31] <ntemis> hello
[04:31] <Lanf> frogzoo: dmesg
[04:32] <Frogzoo_> vlt: does /etc/inittab exist ?
[04:32] <PP188_> hi, my grub is returning: erro 22, how do i solve
[04:32] <MindSpark> what's the difference between var/log/messages and dmesg ?
[04:32] <ntemis> can i control ubuntu from a windows machine?
[04:32] <daedra> tek586_: ok run iwconfig again, and paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:32] <MindSpark> ntemis, of course you can
[04:32] <ntemis> remote desktop
[04:32] <incorrect> wolferine, i wanted to use something other than m$
[04:32] <taxman> anybody know why the Ubuntu wiki didn't go with Mediawiki. There's a huge pool of people that know Mediawiki markup and the documenttation Wiki lacks basic features like a discussion page
[04:32] <MindSpark> ntemis, using ssh or remote desktop or vnc
[04:32] <vlt> Frogzoo_: No, this is upstart.
[04:32] <Lanf> mindspark: dmesg is the boot messages.  /var/log/messages is the syslog
[04:33] <ntemis> how- what do i need?
[04:33] <Frogzoo_> vlt: but the file - does it exist?
[04:33] <wolferine> incorrect, i believe someone has made a suggestions already
[04:33] <Lanf> two different animals
[04:33] <daedra> Lanf: I've checked the permissions, .Xauthority belongs to me, my group, and is chmod 700
[04:33] <MindSpark> Lanf, and after boot, nothing is inserted into dmesg ?
[04:33] <_Lockee> I am having problems opening both avi files (XviD) and mpeg2 files in DeVeDe. It just hangs when I try to open such a file. Anyone who have had the same problem?
[04:33] <tek586_> into the text section?
[04:33] <Lanf> daedra hmm.  I've seen something about "stale" .Xauthority files.  try deleting it and ssh'ing again?
[04:33] <cdavis> what package provides md5.h ?
[04:33] <wmat> how can I install 32-bit libgtk2 on a 64bit Feisty system?
[04:34] <vlt> Frogzoo_: No, it doesn't. Nothing to grep for /etc/event.d/rc-default ;-)
[04:34] <daedra> Lanf: I'll make a backup first. Ok
[04:34] <incorrect> wolferine, inkscape is cool but more like corel draw
[04:34] <daedra> tek586_: yea
[04:34] <Lanf> mindspark some stuff is inserted in dmesg, (like when you plug in a thumbdrive and scsi mounts it)
[04:34] <wolferine> incorrect, and you can understand that you wont find something that works exactly like visio, correct?
[04:34] <MindSpark> Lanf, exactly, but when do I look in dmesg and when do I look in log messages ?
[04:34] <daedra> tek586_: then click Paste! and give me the link in the address bar
[04:34] <Lanf> but /var/log/messages will get stuff like "user X ssh'ed in" or that sort of thing.  programs can log to syslog (var/log/messages)
[04:35] <Blauhaut> What is xubuntu ?
[04:35] <web_knows> did the repositores were affected by the attack?
[04:35] <c0ldfus10n> here's a newb question: Is it possible to update to a new distribution (i.e. edgy to fiesty) without reloading the entire system?
[04:35] <dgjones> !xubuntu | Blauhaut
[04:35] <ubotu> Blauhaut: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[04:35] <faileas> web_knows: no, was just community pages
[04:35] <Lanf> so, look in dmesg when you think it's a low level log line you need.  something hardware related
[04:35] <Lanf> look in /var/log/messages if you think it's program related, like nfs or ssh
[04:35] <web_knows> faileas, thanks
[04:35] <web_knows> I am not confortable to update packages, etc
[04:36] <incorrect> wolferine, i am willing to accept i won't find an exact match, however i would have thought i could find a decent diagramming tool
[04:36] <vic1ous_> hey can anyone tell me why i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[04:36] <faileas> web_knows: i doubt canonical would have left the up if they had been compromised
[04:36] <tek586_> Daedra:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33924/
[04:36] <Blauhaut> !kubuntu
[04:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[04:36] <Dr_Link> Is Ubuntu XChat supposed to make my computer beeeeeep like that?
[04:36] <Lanf> vic1ous: do you only reboot to start a new kernel?
[04:36] <web_knows> faileas, good point
[04:36] <Dr_Link> I was randomly typing
[04:36] <Dr_Link> and out of nowhere
[04:36] <Dr_Link> "BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!"
[04:36] <wolferine> incorrect, the ones you listed are working tools, might not have all the bells and whistles you require
[04:37] <MindSpark> Lanf, ah, alright, so dmesg is mainly kernel oriented, eh ?
[04:37] <vic1ous_> Lanf, no just any reboot
[04:37] <Lanf> mindspark: yes
[04:37] <MindSpark> Lanf, thanks
[04:37] <Frogzoo_> vlt: diff rc2.d/ rc3.d    should give you a clue
[04:37] <daedra> tek586_: sorry you'll need to paste the whole thing - everything in your terminal from typing iwconfig
[04:37] <wolferine> incorrect, just stating 'arent really good enough', maybe suggest what your looking for exactly?
[04:37] <futureng> hi
[04:37] <tek586_> ok stand by
[04:37] <Blauhaut> is it posible to change ubuntu to kubuntu, with all configuration ?
[04:37] <futureng> help me for beryl
[04:37] <runlevelten> http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?id=0813200712407
[04:37] <daedra> tek586_: I need to see the card chipset name, e.g. eth0, wlan0, ra1,
[04:37] <runlevelten> Oh god sorry, wrong channel.
[04:37] <Lanf> vic1ous: not sure then, but look in /etc/modules.conf and see if it's defined there
[04:38] <wolferine> futureng, #ubuntu-effects
[04:38] <c0ldfus10n> here's a newb question: Is it possible to update to a new distribution (i.e. edgy to fiesty) without reloading the entire system?
[04:38] <Lanf> oops, /etc/modules maybe?  (it's modules.conf in redhat)
[04:38] <GNine> i just received a vorbis update
[04:38] <tek586_> daedra:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33927/
[04:38] <daedra> GNine: ME TOO
[04:38] <lmosher> Is there a repo containing debs for the latest nvidia drivers? The instructions on the compiz site suggest downloading from nvidia and building manually, but that requires manual update too. I remember a while ago getting drivers from albert someone.. is that still possible, or is there another source?
[04:38] <kitche> c0ldfus10n, yes gksu update-manager -C should do it
[04:39] <GNine> ok, just checking. didnt expect id see one this soon
[04:39] <daedra> tek586_: cool, your card name is eth1
[04:39] <c0ldfus10n> ahh thanks!
[04:39] <incorrect> wolferine, might not have all the goodies, but i just want something that has the basics, and doesn't hurt my eyes too much
[04:39] <wolferine> lol
[04:40] <vlt> Frogzoo_: diff /etc/rc[23] .d
[04:40] <vlt> Nur in /etc/rc2.d: S10powernowd.early.
[04:40] <daedra> tek586_: also I need to know if its WEP or WPA encryption on your router
[04:40] <lmosher> Anyone? Nvidia drivers? I can't be the only nvidia user online right now...
[04:40] <vlt> Nur in /etc/rc2.d: S99stop-readahead.
[04:40] <Lanf> incorrect: visio is a pretty good product.  can you run it through wine?
[04:40] <incorrect> wolferine, i would bet beer that there is something out there
[04:40] <tek586_> WEP
[04:40] <incorrect> Lanf, i don't have the product
[04:40] <vlt> Frogzoo_: That's onyl two different symlinks
[04:41] <GNine> ubuntu should have a program like windows Restore
[04:41] <Lanf> incorrect: aaaah okay.  hrm.  you're right, there's probably SOMETHING out there that'll do...
[04:41] <daedra> tek586_: ok
[04:41] <vlt> Frogzoo_: Why does it say it is in runlevel "unknown"?
[04:41] <Lanf> incorrect: of course, trouble is always FINDING it :P
[04:41] <Frogzoo_> vlt: put readahead back in
[04:41] <vic1ous__> sorry internet went dead
[04:41] <vic1ous__> so what am i looking for in here
[04:41] <c0ldfus10n> kitche have you noticed any trouble using gksu update-manager -C ?
[04:42] <incorrect> there are over 20000 packages in ubuntu :) one must do what i want
[04:42] <Lanf> vic1ous: well, modules has a listing of all kernel modules to be loaded at boot time
[04:42] <loswillios> fyrestrtr: whenever I want to modprobe -v nvidia it says: install /sbin/lrm-video nvidia: FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[04:42] <vlt> Frogzoo_: back where?
[04:42] <Lanf> vic1ous: I'm not sure what nvidia's kernel module is called.  but it should be in /etc/modules if you want it to start on boot
[04:42] <daedra> tek586_: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33932/
[04:43] <daedra> paste that into a gedit text document, save as eth1.sh
[04:43] <Lanf> vic1ous: the module is probably called "nvidia"
[04:43] <Frogzoo_> vlt: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/stop-readahead /etc/rc2.d
[04:43] <daedra> tek586_: paste that into a gedit text document, save as eth1.sh
[04:43] <Frogzoo_> vlt: ooops - no
[04:43] <Lanf> vic1ous: try modprobe nvidia, see if that sets you up.  if it does, add nvidia to /etc/modules if it isn't already there
[04:43] <Frogzoo_> vlt: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/stop-readahead /etc/rc2.d/S99stop-readahead
[04:44] <Frogzoo_> vlt: cross your fingers & reboot
[04:44] <GNine> my nvidia card is working fine after glx package install.
[04:44] <lmosher> Is there a repo containing debs for the latest nvidia drivers? The instructions on the compiz site suggest downloading from nvidia and building manually, but that requires manual update too. I remember a while ago getting drivers from albert someone.. is that still possible, or is there another source?
[04:44] <loswillios> GNine: which driver?
[04:44] <mattie> hello everyone
[04:44] <sacater> hi mattie
[04:45] <futureng> i runed "berly-manager" and choose window manager "xgal" but my screen is freeze. what can i do?
[04:45] <daedra> Lanf: deleting .Xauthority worked :) now ssh localhost -X works
[04:45] <daedra> thankz
[04:45] <IrishDave> hey, does anyone know of a package that will give me either a gnome applet or a systray icon which will notify me of new email in evolution??
[04:45] <slingintacos> lmosher: did you sudo apt-get install restricted drivers?
[04:45] <Lanf> daedra: rock on :)
[04:45] <tek586_> daedra: set is an invalid command
[04:45] <c0ldfus10n> hey kitche - have you used that upgrade command before?
[04:45] <loswillios> GNine: I have problems with 9631 :/ always wants to load 77xx or something
[04:45] <GNine> i used sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then sudo nvidia-glx-config enble , in that order
[04:45] <slingintacos> lmosher: i mean, sudo apt-get install restricted-drivers
[04:46] <Lanf> irishdave: I never found one, I wanted it too.  I changed over to thunderbird2 which works a lot better for me
[04:46] <kitche> c0ldfus10n, well I did logn time ago when I use ubuntu
[04:46] <oranye> eska
[04:46] <daedra> tek586_: sudo iwpriv eth2 set blahblah should work!
[04:46] <GNine> but i also had to make sure it was reading the right pci address for device (card)
[04:46] <Lanf> irishdave, you could install kbiff I guess if you need to stick with evolution
[04:46] <lmosher> slingintacos, Not yet.. maybe the beta drivers are in the main repos now? I just remember when I set my system up before I had to install another repo (albert something) to get the latest ones
[04:46] <flow> I'm having trouble with connecting to the MTA via localhost, from remote no problem ... any ideas?!
[04:46] <nonanta> my ubuntu server doesn't shut down completely. it's an old computer which doesn't support acpi so i have added "acpi=off apm=on" to /boot/grub/menu.lst but still my server doesn't halt
[04:46] <daedra> tek586_: it works in a default ubuntu 7.04 install
[04:46] <Lappy> !fnfxd
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fnfxd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <c0ldfus10n> did it cause any problems, or was it a smooth operation? I am using ubuntu for an enterprise solution and I can't afford any screw ups...
[04:46] <steinerhippo> yes, i also had to enter the right pci address into xorg.conf
[04:46] <gilster> helllo
[04:46] <Lappy> !fnfx
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fnfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <IrishDave> Lanf: I need the exchange functionality that evolution provides, I cant get thunderbird to do exchange properly for me, only by pop3 or IMAP
[04:47] <PC-Ente> hi
[04:47] <gilster> is anyone experiencing issues with skype today?
[04:47] <daedra> tek586_: make sure you save all those lines into a text file "eth1.sh" and chmod that file to 700
[04:47] <vlt> Frogzoo_: Erm, the symlink does already exist in rc2.
[04:47] <Lappy> anyway got the fn keys to work on a Sony vaio?
[04:47] <Lanf> irishdave: ahh, too bad.  yeah and kbiff only really works for pop/imap
[04:47] <Casperin> I'm trying to install GDM themes on my Ubuntu from gnome-look.org - But it keeps telling me the file format is invalid.. What am I doing wrong?
[04:47] <loswillios> GNine: funny, that didn't work for me :/
[04:47] <Lanf> irishdave: so I don't have any really good answer.  I never found a decent plugin for a systray icon
[04:47] <slingintacos> lmosher: i set mine up again a month ago, and ran that command, my nvidia works fine now
[04:47] <loswillios> GNine: ERROR: API mismatch: The nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this X module has the version 1.0-9631
[04:48] <meoblast001> how do i mount something from gnome? the terminal is reporting errors in my entry
[04:48] <tek586_> daedra:  Invalid command : set
[04:48] <nonanta> !acpi
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <Lappy> anyone got the fn keys to work on a Sony vaio?
[04:48] <tek586_> Sorry
[04:48] <lmosher> slingintacos: Cool thanks, I'll just try that :)
[04:48] <TBotNik_u> All: Trying to finish server install.  Noob!! Do not know how to status where I'm at and what I need to finish.  HOWTO?
[04:48] <slingintacos> lmosher: you also have to enable then in system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[04:48] <daedra> tek586_: ok I'll modify the script
[04:48] <daedra> tek586_: unfortunately it work for me
[04:48] <gilster> i am having problems getting skype to load up....can anyone help
[04:48] <tek586_> daedra: Thanks
[04:49] <IrishDave> Lanf: thanks for trying anyway, I did see some people using xfce that had something which seemed to be an applet on the application bar that informed of new mail?
[04:49] <nonanta> my ubuntu server doesn't shut down completely. it's an old computer which doesn't support acpi so i have added "acpi=off apm=on" to /boot/grub/menu.lst but still my server doesn't halt.can somebody help me?
[04:49] <lmosher> slingintacos: heh upon clicking 'enable' it immediately downloaded nvidia-glx (not nvidia-glx-new). What do I do to make sure it's using nvidia-glx-new?
[04:49] <wolferine> gilster, did you try it from command line?
[04:49] <Lanf> irishdave: not familiar with that one.  it's worth checking into it
[04:49] <GNine> sorry, willios.. am not a pro here.. that was my best bet
[04:50] <flow> running "telnet localhost 25" doesn't give me a connection, but from a remote hosts no problem ... the firewall is also reporting localhost connections as "ACCEPT" ... what's up? googling didn't help
[04:50] <Casperin> I'm trying to install GDM themes on my Ubuntu from gnome-look.org - But it keeps telling me the file format is invalid.. What am I doing wrong?
[04:50] <gilster> wolferine: trying now
[04:50] <IrishDave> ill let you know if i find anything
[04:50] <Lanf> irishdave you could maybe write a popup or something and when new messages come in to evo you can have it run the popup script.
[04:50] <wolferine> gilster, please be advised, use pastebin for errors
[04:50] <Falstius> nonanta: try apm=force
[04:50] <mushroomjay> Could someone give me a link to a tutorial on how to install Java?
[04:50] <TBotNik_u> All: Trying to finish server install.  Noob!! Do not know how to status where I'm at and what I need to finish.  HOWTO?
[04:50] <act1v8> How can I create a Soft AP that uses a wired ethernet for internet access, and a Broadcom Wireless card
[04:50] <vlt> Frogzoo_: I tried `dpkg-reconfigure -plow upstart` but nothing happened. Any other idea?
[04:50] <Frogzoo_> vlt: so "diff -r /etc/rc{2,3}.d/"  ? is what - S10powernowd.early ?
[04:50] <IrishDave> yeah that would work
[04:51] <IrishDave> thanks Lanf
[04:51] <slingintacos> lmosher: here's a link to a deb package http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/misc/nvidia-glx-new
[04:51] <Lanf> irish: good luck
[04:51] <nonanta> falstius: ok i will try that
[04:51] <Frogzoo_> Lappy: function keys should work, acpi methods might be broken
[04:51] <erika14212> ok i i ask for ubuntu cd through the new york team forum
[04:51] <erika14212> hopefully i will hear something
[04:51] <Lappy> Frogzoo_, then what do I do?
[04:51] <c0ldfus10n> one other thing, what is the command to see all available commands on a linux system?
[04:51] <lmosher> slingintacos: Well it downloaded it fine, the issue is when I enabled the nvidia driver in the restricted section, it automatically downloaded nvidia-glx... so I'm wondering how do I tell it to use nvidia-glx-new not nvidia-glx?
[04:52] <erika14212> if not ill reask in a week
[04:52] <vlt> Frogzoo_: "S10powernowd.early" and "S99stop-readahead" are in rc2.d/ only.
[04:52] <lmosher> c0ldfus10n, I would suggest a "linux guide", because that list would be very, very long. You can use 'apropos' to search the descriptions of commands to find something your looking for...
[04:52] <erika14212> surely there is someone in buffalo new york
[04:53] <RapJunkie> hello all
[04:53] <nonanta> Falstius: must i add only "acpi=off apm=force" or anything else also?
[04:53] <slingintacos> lmosher: do you need any other restricted drivers besides the nvidia one?
[04:53] <lmosher> slingintacos: yeah...
[04:53] <act1v8> How can I create a Soft AP with a wireless card that uses the bcm43xx driver
[04:53] <c0ldfus10n> lmosher, thanks - I usually use the internet but I was hoping for a local summary.  I'll try that apropos -- thanks!
[04:53] <erika14212> where ican get one ubuntu cd
[04:53] <wolferine> erika14212, you can download it
[04:53] <erika14212> no burner
[04:54] <flow> any help on MTA@localhost ?!?
[04:54] <Lappy> Frogzoo_, when I type acpi_available it doesn't show me anything, does that mean that acpi isn't correctly installed?
[04:54] <wolferine> erika14212, i believe you can mail order CDs for free
[04:54] <erika14212> so ill repost another message
[04:54] <muszek> erika14212: free (but in a month or two) or at a cost (small)?
[04:54] <wolferine> erika14212, check the ubuntu website
[04:54] <erika14212> in 6weeks
[04:54] <erika14212> s in mean time
[04:54] <slingintacos> lmosher: I'm at a dead end, I dont' have restricted drivers on my work machine, so I can't look through my restricted drivers manager here. sorry
[04:54] <TBotNik_u> Well if know one want to help with my server can I at least get help getting sound up so I here the "dings" here on chat, when someone writes to me?
[04:54] <Frogzoo_> Lappy: I just know what I read in /etc/acpi/sonybright.sh
[04:54] <erika14212> ill reask on team new york
[04:55] <erika14212> page
[04:55] <lmosher> slingintacos: it's ok, no prob
[04:55] <act1v8> can someone please help
[04:55] <Lanf> act1v8: what do you need help with?
[04:55] <muszek> erika14212: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase (for cash), https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ (free)
[04:55] <daedra> tek586_: I know the problem
[04:55] <erika14212> already posy one message
[04:55] <TBotNik_u> Sorry for typo: Well if no one want to help with my server, can I at least get help getting sound up so I here the "dings" here on chat, when someone writes to me?
[04:55] <jetscreamer> a server with x, sound, and chat
[04:55] <jetscreamer> hmmm
[04:55] <act1v8> Lanf: I need to create a Soft AP with a wireless card that uses the bcm43xx driver
[04:55] <daedra> tek586_: did you fill in the ROUTERNAMEHERE YOURKEYHERE?
[04:56] <tek586_> daedra:  What?
[04:56] <Frogzoo_> vlt: well mv them to K### and it should work, then figure out which one's causing problems
[04:56] <tek586_> yes
[04:56] <Lanf> act1v8: I have no idea how to help with that, sorry :(
[04:56] <erika14212> i repost a request  on there
[04:56] <tek586_> not the key part though
[04:56] <daedra> tek586_: in the pastebin text I sent you were blanks
[04:56] <act1v8> Lanf: :)
[04:56] <dfgas> ok, my time is set to utc, how do i change that
[04:56] <erika14212> every day
[04:56] <Lappy> spicctrl -a or wahtever other command I use, give ma 0s
[04:56] <flow> dfgas: don't UTC is perfect, set "timezone"
[04:56] <scratchme> Hi all.
[04:56] <daedra> tek586_: oh... see if iwconfig output has changed then
[04:56] <erika14212> i already tried the unsupported methods
[04:56] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> Tbotn1k_u use google or goto howtoforge there are goot guides there
[04:56] <tek586_> ok
[04:57] <erika14212> wubi  lubi
[04:57] <slingintacos> dfgas: right click date in top right and select preferences
[04:57] <flow> any help on MTA@localhost would be appreciated
[04:57] <dfgas> flow, no, cause when i go into windows it shows my time as 5 or so hours ahead
[04:57] <muszek> erika14212: don't repost on shipit... it really takes some time (like a month or two)
[04:57] <scratchme> Has anyone used the pdfedit?  If so, how do you edit a text node/object on the page?  I can get it to select it, or add a new one, but I'd ljke to simply edit existing ones.  The document is editable in Windows using Foxit Editor.
[04:57] <flow> oh. dfgas double-booting is a trouble there, yeah ... mmmh. dunno about disabling it
[04:57] <tek586_> doesn't look that way
[04:57] <erika14212> i have posted a bug report
[04:57] <Pici> erika14212: You can try asking in #ubuntu-ny if you are really desparate.
[04:57] <flow> should've been asked at install time (with hint @double-boot problem), dfgas
[04:57] <dfgas> flow, heh, quad boot
[04:58] <erika14212> on team new york
[04:58] <erika14212> site
[04:58] <flow> dfgas: whatever
[04:58] <wmat> in answer to my own question earlier, one can install 32-bit libs on a 64-bit install with the ia32-* packages. The FAQ suggests a chroot environment, but that's not really necessary in all cases.
[04:58] <flow> dfgas: dpkg-reconfigure should be your friend
[04:58] <dfgas> flow, heh, yah, 2 oses are fine, but the 2 windows ones are weird
[04:58] <flow> but don't ask me which package it is
[04:58] <daedra> tek586_: when you run the script does it ask for you passwd?
[04:59] <erika14212> thas what the bug reporting site is for
[04:59] <tek586_> yes
[04:59] <daedra> tek586_: and did you type chmod 700 eth1.sh first?
[04:59] <tek586_> no
[04:59] <daedra> ah - do that
[05:00] <uforar> genii: thanks alot for the help, ive got it working quite nicely now
[05:00] <tek586_> Can you email me the details I have to get going?
[05:00] <erika14212> my hard drive is already screwed up\
[05:00] <scratchme> What's an easy way to visual make small text edits to PDF files in Ubuntu?
[05:00] <daedra> um ok
[05:00] <daedra> lol
[05:00] <scratchme> visually even
[05:00] <genii> uforar: :) Glad to hear
[05:00] <daedra> just /msg me it
[05:01] <Frogzoo_> dfgas: try 'hwclock -w --localtime'
[05:01] <vlt> Frogzoo_: Hmmm, I think all the daemons from rc2.d/ would be started if the system entered runlevel 2. But it doesn't. Even after `telinit 2` it says "unknown". Just to be sure: I'll mv S10powernowd.early and S99stop-readahead to K10... and K99..., right?
[05:01] <erika14212> trying these not supported install method
[05:01] <Frogzoo_> dfgas: try 'sudo hwclock -w --localtime'
[05:01] <tek586_> Did you get it?
[05:01] <anandanbu> How to open the /usr and other dir's in nautilus in ubuntu 7.04
[05:01] <erika14212> i feel as though
[05:02] <daedra> tek586_: no
[05:02] <erika14212> its my duty to  report the buga
[05:02] <tek586_> tek586@msn.com
[05:02] <Pici> erika14212: This is the support channel for #ubuntu, if you just want to chat, we ask that you join #ubuntu-offtopic . Thank you
[05:02] <kaveh> hi all
[05:02] <meoblast001> any USB users here????
[05:03] <kaveh> some one plz help me ->http://rafb.net/p/r104fC69.html
[05:03] <meoblast001> USB installers/
[05:03] <Frogzoo_> vlt: yeah, I think the issue is rcS still has processes running and so it's not moving on to start rc2
[05:03] <eontastico> so i did an apt-get update for my kernel image, and now my system does not boot
[05:03] <eontastico> i tried running grub-install, still wont boot
[05:03] <eontastico> wtf
[05:04] <meoblast001> im using USB installer and when i put the USB in and booted Syslinux asked where the kernel image is..... what would i type in for feisty fawn?
[05:04] <kaveh> any one
[05:04] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  is your grub broken?
[05:04] <eontastico> may be --- i did a grub-install and it still doesnt work
[05:05] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  but your grub displays all possible bootable entries?
[05:05] <eontastico> yeah
[05:05] <eontastico> looks that way
[05:05] <meoblast001> i thought i found it but the kernel is panicing
[05:05] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  can you boot anyother kernels that is not the one you just install
[05:06] <bullgard4> How can I transform a file in pdf, bib, trx or xhtml format into the CSV format?
[05:06] <vlt> Frogzoo_: But `telinit 3` is successfull. Can I log the boot ouput somewhere?
[05:07] <lmosher> Why isn't ubuntu automatically mounting my USB stick? It's there on /dev/sdb, but normally it automatically puts it on the desktop... etc?
[05:07] <Frogzoo_> vlt: if you make rc2.d the same as rc3.d you should boot to rl 2, worth a try
[05:07] <koan> gvim is not indenting code as well as highlighting code ??
[05:07] <koan> any ideas ?
[05:08] <eontastico> effie_jayx: the problem is that it doesnt even bring up my boot list
[05:08] <eontastico> effie_jayx: it just sits like the master boot record isnt there
[05:08] <vlt> Frogzoo_: I'll try.
[05:08] <effie_jayx> ok
[05:09] <koan> gvim is not indenting code and not highlighting code ??, What should i do ?
[05:09] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> lmosher i believe you need to add an entry to your /etc/fstab ....... but i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong..
[05:09] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  if nothing boots then try a live cd and from there mount your partition
[05:09] <david003> hello. i need to place a trash on my desktop, how do i do it?
[05:09] <koan> neither do i see any colors
[05:10] <boghog> what does it mean if I get a "CTCP AVATAR" form someone?
[05:10] <francois> hi, I have a usb drive that doesn't automount, so I mount it manually and then sudo chmod 777 -c -R /folder and I still can't access anything, any help ?
[05:10] <koan> cream on the other hand shows highlighting but it too does not indent code
[05:10] <Whitman> cream doesn't indent code?
[05:10] <GuHhH> !ipw3945
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw3945 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <koan> and synaptic package manager hangs when i try to search for anything ?
[05:10] <eontastico> effie_jayx: that's where i'm at now, i tried to reinstall grub to the drive using the livecd and terminal
[05:11] <lmosher> ftoo_on_gutsy_, no you don't normally put removable media in the fstab. i figured it out.. I wan't running gdm, which does that stuff. I had the wrong headers so my x session didn't start and I started it w/ startx instead of GDM :)
[05:11] <GuHhH> !ipw3945d
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw3945d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <scratchme> For anyone interested, I figured out how it works.  If you select a text object, a box appears in the toolbar with the text contents.  You can change the text there, but not inline.  This still works though.
[05:11] <mrmonday> is there a CLI app that will pick a random line of output from a command, then print it?
[05:11] <scratchme> (this is using pdfedit)
[05:11] <koan> Whitman : oh okay, but gvim does but, its not indenting
[05:11] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  did you mount your partition
[05:11] <Whitman> that wasn't me saying it didn't, it was a question.  cream indents fine here
[05:11] <ftoo_on_gutsy_> lmosher glad to know u have it sorted
[05:11] <koan> oh lol
[05:12] <koan> yeah, cream is not indenting neither is gvim
[05:12] <Whitman> wierd
[05:12] <koan> any solutions ?
[05:12] <kaveh> some one plz help me -->http://rafb.net/p/O1PuC113.html
[05:12] <eontastico> effie_jayx: yeah i mounted the partition and then did a chroot to it, then tried grub-install /dev/sde
[05:12] <directLink> If I use "Move to trash" with a LiveCD, how can I then delete the files completely afterwards?
[05:12] <eontastico> it said it went successfully
[05:12] <eontastico> but it didnt
[05:12] <kaveh> i dont know what is ging on
[05:12] <effie_jayx> eontastico, try running grub
[05:12] <effie_jayx> eontastico, jut type grub
[05:12] <koan> Should i uninstall it and then install it again ? :p
[05:13] <gcostello> koan: what type of files are you editing?
[05:13] <francois> directLink: you can hold shift + del and permanently delete them
[05:13] <GuHhH> how do i install and configure ipw3945d?
[05:13] <koan> .c
[05:13] <koan> and .pl
[05:13] <koan> doesn't work on any
[05:14] <kaveh> any one?
[05:14] <dooglus> GuHhH: I don't think it needs any configuring - just install it with synaptic
[05:14] <gcostello> koan: try "set autoindent on" in your .vimrc
[05:14] <directLink> francois: problem is, I rebooted to my system, and now they are gone, but they still occupy disk space...
[05:15] <dooglus> GuHhH: it doesn't work particularly well, at least not for me, but it's OK if you don't mind the constant disconnections
[05:15] <GuHhH> dooglus: i will need the ieee80211
[05:15] <koan> okay gcostello
[05:15] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  are you in gurb yet
[05:15] <PaN|Eidolon> Feierabend, bis denn
[05:15] <kaveh> no one?
[05:15] <francois> directLink: did you check the folder that they are kept in ? the trash folder ?
[05:15] <GuHhH> dooglus: im using it right now
[05:15] <koan> wait, gcostello : where do i find .vimrc
[05:15] <GuHhH> dooglus: but i want to help a friend to make it run
[05:15] <kaveh> http://rafb.net/p/O1PuC113.html
[05:15] <Penguinsaremyfri> I have a little problem, my computer cannot attain an ip address at college, yet my friends can. Both running ubuntu
[05:15] <kaveh> ^^
[05:16] <directLink> francois: seems like that's the thing I'm looking for. Where is it?
[05:16] <BarMan> what is the root password on knoppix ?
[05:16] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  do you now you partition number?
[05:16] <gcostello> koan: should be in your home directory, if not, try "cat /etc/vim/vimrc > ~/.vimrc" and then edit that file
[05:16] <dooglus> BarMan: toor?
[05:16] <kitche> BarMan, ask #knoppix they will know :)
[05:16] <gcostello> koan: you should also put "syntax on" in .vimrc
[05:16] <effie_jayx> eontastico,  let me know if you have any other issues
[05:16] <BarMan> kitche,  noone is active
[05:17] <BarMan> dooglus,  no its not that one
[05:17] <Frogzoo_> dfgas: did you try 'hwclock -w --localtime' ?
[05:17] <gcostello> koan: you could have a look at my .vimrc here: http://www.gavincostello.com/vimrc.php
[05:17] <GuHhH> im having a i/o error when trying to download musics from my mp3 player, anyone guess why?
[05:17] <Penguinsaremyfri> I have a little problem, my computer cannot attain an ip address at college, yet my friends can. Both running ubuntu
[05:18] <dooglus> GuHhH: on every file?  or just at random?
[05:18] <francois> directLink: ok gimme a sec,
[05:18] <Frogzoo_> Penguinsaremyfri: compare your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:18] <dfgas> frogzoo_ yah, the problem wasn'tin ubuntu, so now i am trying to change it in the os that i am in now
[05:18] <slingintacos> Penguinsaremyfri: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:19] <Frogzoo_> dfgas: windows saves time in localtime only
[05:19] <Penguinsaremyfri> thanks, I will try that
[05:19] <GuHhH> dooglus: every
[05:19] <eontastico> effie_jayx: it keeps saying the device has no corresponding BIOS drive
[05:19] <eontastico> effie_jayx:  no matter what device i specify
[05:20] <kaveh> all : no help regarding -->http://rafb.net/p/O1PuC113.html?
[05:20] <directLink> !trash
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <mrmonday> is there a CLI app that will pick a random line of output from a command, then print it?
[05:20] <gilster> ok update on my skype problem. It is actually a skype server issue....thanks
[05:21] <slingintacos> Penguinsaremyfri: did it work?
[05:21] <Penguinsaremyfri> the sudo....netowrking restart did not access eth1, and that is what my wireless is
[05:21] <jetscreamer> does it boot if you use the old kernel
[05:21] <jetscreamer> eontastico:
[05:21] <attunix> You know that little drum sound at the login screen? How do I change that?
[05:21] <Penguinsaremyfri> I am not at school right now, but could not get help when there
[05:21] <slingintacos> did you spell it right?
[05:21] <francois> directLink: here : ~/.local/share/trash/files/
[05:22] <francois> directLink: that took me an abnormally long time to find out
[05:22] <koan> Thanks gcostello, that worked :)
[05:22] <koan> Thank you very much
[05:22] <directLink> francois: ok, thanks :)
[05:22] <francois> hi, I have a usb drive that doesn't automount, so I mount it manually and then sudo chmod 777 -c -R /folder and I still can't access anything, any help ?
[05:22] <eontastico> jetscreamer: its not even getting to the splash screen to choose which kernel
[05:22] <praet> mrmonday: a bash script could probably do that
[05:23] <mrmonday> praet, I don't know any bash...
[05:23] <GuHhH> dooglus: now i cant umount it, it says "device is busy"
[05:23] <kaveh> any one sees eme?
[05:24] <slingintacos> mrmonday: whatdya mean you don't know any bash? bash is how you do most everything
[05:24] <praet> mrmonday: well what exactly are you trying to do, print a random line out of a file? like a list of random quotes?
[05:24] <kaveh> ?
[05:24] <CoasterMaster> I've got a couple programs installed in my home folder (i.e. I download them as an archive and they are stand alone programs that you extract and run).  Is there a better place for them?
[05:24] <francois> CoasterMaster: your /bin/ folder
[05:24] <francois> CoasterMaster: your system will find them there automatically and you can execute them from anywhere
[05:25] <kaveh> <--------------any body sees me
[05:25] <attunix> How do I change the sound that plays at the login screen?
[05:25] <jetscreamer> eontastico: got a grub floppy or a cd that uses grub? and there's a rescue option on the ubuntu cd isn't there
[05:25] <Pici> kaveh: yes
[05:25] <kitche> CoasterMaster, /usr/local/bin/ actually
[05:25] <jetscreamer> eontastico: how many ide controllers
[05:25] <CoasterMaster> francois: so just move the folder there and everything will be taken care of?
[05:25] <directLink> francois: hmm, just a little problem... the home directory was what I moved to trash :S and the backup I took doesn't have a trash folder...
[05:25] <CoasterMaster> kitche: so just move the folder there?
[05:25] <mrmonday> praet, I want to run the command 'calendar', but have it only give one line
[05:25] <_jason> attunix: system -> administration -> login window
[05:25] <attunix> kaveh: what's your language?
[05:25] <francois> kitche: to that folder that kitche said, i forgot the first part, haha
[05:25] <mrmonday> praet, and I can't find an operator for that
[05:25] <attunix> _jason: thanks :)
[05:25] <praet> kaveh: i looked at your post but have no idea how to fix that corruption
[05:25] <CoasterMaster> so use /usr/local/bin?
[05:26] <mrmonday> praet, *switch
[05:26] <francois> CoasterMaster: yes, sry
[05:26] <kaveh> attunix, can u see http://rafb.net/p/O1PuC113.html
[05:26] <m11> .
[05:26] <slingintacos> attunix: system>preferences>sound
[05:26] <kaveh> attunix, i get this error
[05:26] <francois> directLink: ok, so you deleted your OWN home folder ? :S
[05:26] <slingintacos> attunix: u need .wav filez
[05:26] <kaveh> praet, thanks alot
[05:26] <CoasterMaster> francois: is there any way to copy things in natilus as root? or do I have to use the command line?
[05:27] <Pici> kaveh: Can you try doing `sudo apt-cache clean` then whatever command you are trying to do.
[05:27] <GuHhH> hello, im having a problem trying to umount a device, it says its busy. i tried -f to force umount, but the problem persists. what can be done?
[05:27] <francois> CoasterMaster: command line, besides its always safer
[05:27] <CoasterMaster> francois: ok, thanks
[05:27] <kaveh> Pici, thanks so muc
[05:27] <elmar> has anyone got audigy4 running on ubuntu?
[05:28] <directLink> francois: using a liveCD yes, as I said in the initial message. It was to move my home directory to another partition...
[05:28] <jrib> GuHhH: you have to close any program that is accessing it
[05:28] <kaveh> Pici, E: Invalid operation clean
[05:28] <Pici> kaveh: hold on..
[05:29] <kaveh> Pici, ok
[05:29] <Pici> kaveh: Sorry, its apt-get clean
[05:29] <jrib> kaveh, Pici: apt-get instead of apt-cache
[05:29] <francois> directLink: from the live cd i don't know where the deleted files would go, other than maybe permanently deleted....did you copy your home folder at all ? or deleted it by accident ?
[05:29] <kaveh> thanks alot guys
[05:29] <Johto> HELP, for some reason i dont have any picture in VLC when trying to watch Apple's keynote stream, i can only hear audio, should i have video too? :I
[05:29] <directLink> francois: I copied it first...
[05:30] <Pici> jrib: logically you would think it was apt-cache, but meh.
[05:30] <Johto> its mpeg4 ..weird why it doesnt show
[05:30] <elmar> guy.. does anyone know how i can have my speakers and headphones work at the same time with audigy4?
[05:30] <francois> directLink: can you copy that one over again ?
[05:30] <francois> directLink: maybe explain a little more to me
[05:30] <kaveh> The following packages will be upgraded:
[05:30] <kaveh>   kcontrol
[05:30] <Johto> http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/aug/r27842e/m_428396549_650_ref.mov <-- can anyone else try and see if it plays VIDEO too with audio using VLC ?
[05:31] <kaveh> Pici, ho w can i remove kcontrol from upgraded list
[05:31] <directLink> francois: I don't have enough space to copy it back, that's the problem. My old one somehow still uses space...
[05:31] <Pici> kaveh: I believe you can with `aptitude hold kcontrol`
[05:32] <kaveh> Pici, thanks again
[05:32] <DrHalan> hey, does somebody use code::blocks nightly build because it doesnt start up here
[05:32] <Penguinsaremyfri> is there a command to reset a wireless card? using bc43xx driver
[05:32] <dooglus> GuHhH: to umount it, you need to not have any shells cd'ed to that device
[05:32] <aa_> hi, just bought a new laptop :) the wireless driver is in restricted-modules and has been loaded successfully. But for some reason only the ethernet card and loopback are displayed in ifconfig
[05:32] <francois> directLink: see if you can search for a file you know exists in your home folder and maybe that will tell you where it went
[05:32] <dooglus> GuHhH: and to be able to read the files, mount it with a umask that lets you read it
[05:32] <gcostello> aa_: try sudo network-admin, and add the wifi connection
[05:32] <kitche> aa_ ifconfig -a doesn't show you more then two?
[05:32] <francois> directLink: otherwise i don't quite know what to do anymore, sry :(
[05:32] <JohnShortland> Penguinsaremyfri: open a terminal and type ifdown wlan0, then to reload it type ifup wlan0
[05:33] <directLink> francois: good idea, why didn't I think of that:P
[05:33] <aa_> kitche: no
[05:33] <GuHhH> dooglus: thanks, i guess its protected :(
[05:33] <erika14212> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=527001
[05:33] <Penguinsaremyfri> thanks
[05:33] <aa_> gcostello: I can't work out how to "add a new connection" in that dialog
[05:33] <dooglus> GuHhH: it's probably FAT format, which doesn't have the concept of 'protected'
[05:34] <dooglus> GuHhH: it's probably just mounted wrongly, so only root can read it
[05:34] <seanpcrowe> hi all...
[05:34] <kaveh> Pici, it did not work
[05:34] <seanpcrowe> <---- leenox n00b (but trying)
[05:34] <dooglus> hi sean
[05:34] <aa_> kitche: oddly though dmesg etc seem to say that the kernel module is loaded successfully
[05:34] <JohnShortland> hi seanpcrowe
[05:34] <seanpcrowe> as anyone got there synaptics touchpad working in kubuntu???
[05:34] <kaveh> Pici, thans alot an way
[05:34] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: I have one working in ubuntu
[05:34] <kaveh> brb
[05:34] <seanpcrowe> hi JohnShortland =)
[05:35] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: mine works in ubuntu by default
[05:35] <seanpcrowe> dooglus, mine works, but without any scrolling and stuff :s
[05:35] <JohnShortland> any else having probelms opening ubuntuforums.org
[05:35] <seanpcrowe> and installing synaptics stuff via the package manager just messes things up...
[05:35] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: it was mostly automatically detected ok though.  apart from scrolling, etc
[05:35] <seanpcrowe> any sujesttions?
[05:35] <GuHhH> dooglus: but i couldnt even copy it on my windows...
[05:36] <GuHhH> dooglus: it said thats its protected or something
[05:36] <dooglus> GuHhH: oh, ok
[05:36] <gcostello> aa: you need to add the wireless to /etc/network/interfaces (e.g. auto ath0)
[05:36] <loswillios> args
[05:36] <seanpcrowe> dooglus, have u gotten scrolling working now?
[05:36] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: yes, I messed with my xorg.conf
[05:36] <aa_> gcostello: oh ok
[05:36] <GNine> i really wish to go back to square one on this next install.
[05:36] <loswillios> somehow, nvidia.ko isn't shipped with linux-restricted-modules
[05:36] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: # http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad told me how
[05:36] <seanpcrowe> dooglus, what did u do with it??
[05:36] <aa_> gcostello: can I just call it eth1 ? or how do I find out the name
[05:37] <seanpcrowe> dooglus, ok dude... many thank =)
[05:37] <seanpcrowe> *thanks
[05:37] <JohnShortland> dooglus: did you add shmconfig = true to your xorg.conf?
[05:37] <gvsa123> oh xchat-gnome connects me instantaneously to irc.freenode.net #ubuntu?
[05:37] <aa_> gcostello: actully, already it has auto up to eth2 ath0 and wlan0
[05:37] <loswillios> and nvidia.ko isn't build on my system. wtf happened
[05:37] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: the relevant part of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf now looks like this: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/synaptic.txt
[05:38] <dooglus> JohnShortland: I did, but only ever used it for debugging
[05:38] <JohnShortland> dooglus: if you add it you can use the touchpad settings in System>Preferances>touchpad very handy
[05:39] <dooglus> JohnShortland: I don't have System>Preferences>touchpad
[05:39] <JohnShortland> dooglus: if you install it, its very handy nice gui for all the touchpad settings
[05:39] <dooglus> JohnShortland: what's the package called?
[05:39] <seanpcrowe> dooglus, so i add that to xorg.conf and it should work??? i also dont have the synaptics settings showing up in the lenox control panel )if that makes sence)
[05:40] <JohnShortland> dooglus: one sec ill get the name
[05:40] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: you should already have a section of your xorg.conf for the touchpad - do you?
[05:40] <seanpcrowe> it has been miss-reonised as something else... i cant rememebr what...
[05:41] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: oh, I see
[05:41] <SirBob1701> is there anything else you need to do after you install postgresql-contrib-8.1 to get tsvector to work?
[05:41] <Tigggzzz> Is it worth installing 64-bit? Or will it just give me extra issues?
[05:41] <seanpcrowe> i tryed installing synaptics stuff via the package messenger... but then the OS complaines when i try to use the GUI settings for the touchpad..
[05:41] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: here's my whole xorg.conf: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/xorg.conf
[05:41] <cyp> hi, does anyone know if the kensington expansion dock (a docking station for laptop) works with ubuntu ? :)
[05:41] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: that will show you how the touchpad gets referenced from the other sections
[05:42] <praet> mrmonday: gimme a sec to write something k
[05:42] <mrmonday> praet, thanks :D
[05:42] <loswillios> what can I do when I have no nvidia.ko on my sytem?
[05:43] <abhinay> which codec do i need to play mp3 in rhythmbox player ?
[05:43] <dooglus> seanpcrowe: basically the "ServerLayout" section must reference the touchpad section using the same name
[05:43] <loswillios> (although I have installed linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx)
[05:43] <Johto> any program / way to watch/save Apple's Keynote videostreams?
[05:43] <el_taco> loswillios get the kernal module?
[05:43] <JohnShortland> dooglus: its in the repos if you look through add/remove you'll find it, my net is acting up pages wont load so cant find the name of the app
[05:43] <GNine> are iso files best written to a dvd disk?
[05:43] <loswillios> el_taco: yeah... but I don't know how
[05:43] <jetscreamer> GNine: doesn't matter
[05:43] <Johto> GNine: depends on the .iso
[05:43] <dooglus> GNine: depends on the size I guess
[05:43] <jetscreamer> GNine: the size of the iso
[05:43] <Johto> GnarlyBob: therea re cd isos, and dvd isos
[05:43] <GNine> 700mb
[05:44] <loswillios> el_taco: was it shipped with linux-restricted-modules? can you please check with dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules|grep nvidia
[05:44] <dooglus> GNine: you can just mount them without burning if you like
[05:44] <tacos_ubuntu> GNine: if it is 700mb then use a cd
[05:44] <jetscreamer> no you can write cd images to dvd
[05:44] <Johto> GnarlyBob: if its 700, its best to use cd
[05:44] <genii> try nv.ko instead ?
[05:44] <jetscreamer> just not the other way
[05:44] <Johto> GnarlyBob: sorry, not u :I
[05:44] <GNine> 10-4
[05:44] <dooglus> GNine: mount -o loop -t iso9660 "$1" /mnt/iso
[05:44] <jetscreamer> that will fit on a cd
[05:44] <Johto> Gnea:  if its 700, its best to use cd
[05:44] <loswillios> genii: that works, but I want google earth and stuff
[05:44] <tacos_ubuntu> GNine: if you only have dvds, that will work also but it's a waste of a tiny amount of money and also space
[05:44] <jc_> hello
[05:44] <el_taco> loswillios nvidia-kernel-common maybe
[05:44] <Johto> 700 meg .iso IS a "cd-rom image" aka .iso
[05:44] <kazol> I cannot connect to a Windows workgroup any longer. What is the problem?
[05:44] <aa_> oh this is depressing :( seems using lshw that my wireless card is missing a "logical name" can I create one somehow?
[05:45] <GNine> dooglus: i want to boot from that iso. mounting it wont take me there
[05:45] <tacos_ubuntu> aa: I like the name Larry
[05:45] <loswillios> el_taco: that one is installed too :/
[05:45] <dooglus> GNine: burn it to a CD then if you have one
[05:45] <seanpcrowe> how do i vew my xorg.conf from wothin the OS... is it "kate /etx/X11/xorg.conf" ???
[05:45] <el_taco> loswillios just install the drivers from nvidia
[05:45] <GNine> roger that. thanks for input guys
[05:46] <jc_> about xorg.conf
[05:46] <jc_> yes but as root
[05:46] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <jc_> so kdesu kate
[05:46] <jetscreamer> m-a a-i nvidia ?
[05:46] <jc_> or gksu
[05:46] <Greyhound-> does anyone have any idea why  can't access one of my NTFS partitions ? I tried with ubuntu and knoppix and neither one will mount it... in gnome partition manager under ubuntu the partition that wouldn't mount appeared as an ext2, but I know it's ntfs.
[05:46] <jc_> if u use gnome
[05:46] <seanpcrowe> ah... sudo kate
[05:46] <loswillios> el_taco: did that too. but my computer hangs when starting X then (module loading is fine), so I want to try the ubuntu-way
[05:46] <seanpcrowe> thx...
[05:46] <loswillios> no logs and stuff.... sucks
[05:47] <jc_> np
[05:47] <SlimeyPe1e> Greyhound-: sounds like there might be something up with your partition table. Check gparted/fdisk to see what they say.
[05:47] <JohnShortland> dooglus: gsynaptics
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Greyhound-: have you tried running chkdsk on the win partition..I find this resolves alot
[05:47] <jetscreamer> fdisk -l
[05:47] <jc_> has nybody installed the mezzo desktop in ubuntu?
[05:47] <TBotNik_u> All: on my sound problem, my partner installed Gentoo box and it would not see or config audio codec until we installed a Creative Labs card and config'd it.  Then both the onboard and the Creative came up, so we dropped the Creative.  Since nothing I do shows the onboard audio codec/chipset, I'm wondering if I have to run the same scenario?  Also wondering if any others had this same problem?
[05:47] <kazol> How do I connect to a Windows workgroup?
[05:47] <el_taco> loswillios what card do you ahve?
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !samba kazol
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba kazol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <TBotNik_u> kazol: Samba
[05:47] <Paddy_EIRE> !samba | kazol
[05:47] <ubotu> kazol: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:47] <loswillios> el_taco: geforce 3 200ti
[05:47] <tacos_ubuntu> TBogNik_u: try /join gentoo
[05:48] <Rexor_Moon> what's the terminal direction for adding files to existing directories?
[05:48] <JohnShortland> kazol: click place in gnome and pick connect to server, pick windows share and the
[05:48] <el_taco> loswillios time for a new card lol
[05:48] <loswillios> el_taco: nv20 Geforce 3 Ti 200. that need the 96xx-legacy driver
[05:48] <JohnShortland> kazol: then click browse network and pick the pc you want to connect to
[05:48] <tacos_ubuntu> Rexor_Moon cp fiename filedestination
[05:48] <loswillios> el_taco: heh, no. It was a TNT2 before, but google earth didn't work with that
[05:48] <dooglus> JohnShortland: thanks
[05:49] <Johto> any program / way to watch/save Apple's Keynote videostreams?
[05:49] <kazol> JohnSchortland: There are no PCs visible.
[05:49] <JohnShortland> dooglus: let me know if it works
[05:49] <Tigggzzz> Anyone? 64-bit worth it or not?
[05:49] <Djoef> hello
[05:49] <david003> hello. i need an app to create a cd cover. any suggestions?
[05:49] <savetheWorld> !meta samba
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meta samba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <tacos_ubuntu> Tigggzzz: 64bit what
[05:49] <GCReady> looking for full reviews of the dell 1420N w/ fiesty, any one no where to find them?
[05:49] <Djoef> what shoud i use to make a video from an application (as in tutorial video)
[05:49] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, when i use that i get this error... http://i17.tinypic.com/676vmkj.png
[05:49] <Tigggzzz> worth installing 64-bit as hardware capable, but any benifit, or just more hassle
[05:50] <tacos_ubuntu> I installed it as 64bit and there has been 0 problems
[05:50] <bill_> where does 'apt-get source' put the source files ?
[05:50] <el_taco> loswillios the main problem I had when installing the nvidia drivers was I tried the ubuntu first and the ones from nvidia would not work. I finally figured out that even though I removed all the packages that it still left stuff that needed to be manually deleted
[05:50] <tacos_ubuntu> Also there is some potential for increased speed, depending on what you use your computer for
[05:50] <loswillios> el_taco: that sucks
[05:50] <tacos_ubuntu> My recommendation is install as 64bit
[05:50] <seanpcrowe> dooglus, did u every get this error??? http://i17.tinypic.com/676vmkj.png
[05:51] <gcostello> kazol: try smbclient \\windows_machine_name\share_name -U username%password -W workgroup_name
[05:51] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: email your xorg.conf to johnshortland@gmail.com and ill add the lines you need
[05:51] <vic1ous> hey guys i have a problem for some reason i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[05:51] <Tabula_rasa> server irc.epiknet.org
[05:51] <Tabula_rasa> oups
[05:51] <Tigggzzz> tacos_ubuntu, is there any compatibility isses etc like with windows?
[05:51] <seanpcrowe> kk 2 mimutes...
[05:51] <loswillios> el_taco: I wonder if I should downgrade linux-restricted-modules (and maybe restricted-manager)
[05:51] <loswillios> el_taco: let's see
[05:51] <c0ldfus10n> kazol, if that doesn't work you will have to install samba with apt-get install samba
[05:52] <Tigggzzz> tacos_ubuntu, any driver probs etc
[05:52] <DShepherd> !hi
[05:52] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:52] <JohnShortland> kazol: open nautilus and type in the addy bar smb:///[ip addy of the pc u want to connect to] 
[05:52] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: It used to work-I'm trying to connect to a printer.
[05:52] <pawan> hi
[05:52] <tacos_ubuntu> Trigggzzz: 0 problems at all
[05:52] <pawan> azureus not loading
[05:52] <nimbo> bad azureus
[05:52] <c0ldfus10n> kazol, are you trying to browse the network to add the printer or type in the address?
[05:52] <nimbo> azureus, sit!
[05:53] <vic1ous> for some reason i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[05:53] <osxdude|laptop> My keyboard stops working after unplugging a wireless device...
[05:53] <pawan> !azureus
[05:53] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[05:53] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: When I browse the network, I cannot see any computers.
[05:53] <el_taco> loswillios http://dontfeedtheseagulls.com/2007/07/21/installing-proprietary-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-fiesty-fawn/
[05:53] <JohnShortland> pawan: my azureus died too so i went and got deluge for www.getdeb.net much better not as much of a hog
[05:53] <tacos_ubuntu> Trigggzzz: and fyi I have 2 independant vista 64s going and it hasn't had any problems either... scanner, printer, digital camera, etc...
[05:53] <osxdude|laptop> !bug 132966
[05:53] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: There should be 2 PCs under the MSHOME workgroup.
[05:53] <Draconicus> Hi there. Ever since I moved to Ubuntu, Camorama has come without its filters. It's driving me crazy, because now red is blue and blue is red when I use it. Does anyone know how I can get these filters, or can anyone recommend another capturing program?
[05:53] <osxdude|laptop> !bug #132966
[05:53] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: have you emailed your xorg.conf yet?
[05:53] <c0ldfus10n> kazol, are you sure that your /etc/samba/smb.conf is set to the correct workgroup
[05:53] <TBotNik_u> All Reposting: on my sound problem, my partner installed Gentoo box and it would not see or config audio codec until we installed a Creative Labs card and config'd it.  Then both the onboard and the Creative came up, so we dropped the Creative.  Since nothing I do shows the onboard audio codec/chipset, I'm wondering if I have to run the same scenario?  Also wondering if any others had this same problem?
[05:53] <Lappy> !fsfn
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsfn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <c0ldfus10n> kazol - oh I guess so
[05:54] <speaker219> !botfood
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botfood - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <speaker219> !botfeed
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botfeed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Tigggzzz> tacos_ubuntu, nice one. I would never use xp 64bit cos drivers etc
[05:54] <osxdude|laptop> !bug #132966
[05:54] <osxdude|laptop> come on
[05:54] <speaker219> yeah, thats great ubotu, i would, except the site is down
[05:54] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, 2 minutes... i am having some difficulty (n00b)  lulz
[05:54] <Rexor_Moon> hmm, thing is, for games, I found where the game access files are, but I can't find the actual file directories
[05:54] <jc_> LMAO
[05:54] <pef> hello
[05:54] <osxdude|laptop> bug #132966
[05:54] <osxdude|laptop> come on
[05:54] <vic1ous> for some reason i have to reinstall my nvidia driver every time i reboot
[05:54] <loswillios> el_taco: ahh screw it. I will try it again once 7.10 get's a little more stable. using the nv driver for now
[05:55] <tacos_ubuntu> Tigggzzz: XP64 is supposed to be pretty messed up yeah
[05:55] <el_taco> vic1ous http://dontfeedtheseagulls.com/2007/07/21/installing-proprietary-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-fiesty-fawn/
[05:55] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: The workgroup is correct.
[05:55] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: i have to turn my router on and off b back in a sec
[05:55] <loswillios> el_taco: there's a wiki entry too
[05:55] <Draconicus> Right right... nobody gives a damn about the people with obscure problems... silly me.
[05:55] <praet> mrmonday: ok take a look at this: http://pastebin.com/m60c80bd9
[05:55] <osxdude|laptop> !bug #132966
[05:55] <kidbuntu> anyone had a good gaming experience with an nForce6150?
[05:55] <ChrisBradley> http://thechristeldahlskjaerthreat.blogspot.com/
[05:55] <osxdude|laptop> wrf
[05:55] <Tigggzzz> tacos_ubuntu, thats great thanks for that
[05:55] <el_taco> loswillios the wiki didn't help me at all
[05:55] <amonkey> i turned on my laptop today and the touchpad is reversed. left is right and up is down now, what could have happened?
[05:56] <loswillios> el_taco: worked fine for me
[05:56] <mrmonday> praet, thanks :)
[05:56] <tacos_ubuntu> Trigggzzz: plus if you ever decide to get 4+gb ram, you don't haveto change a thing =] 
[05:56] <pawan> hello
[05:56] <c0ldfus10n> kazol, it still doesn't work after a reboot?
[05:56] <loswillios> el_taco: well, except that X wouldn't start :P
[05:56] <pawan> azureus not loading
[05:56] <tacos_ubuntu> !afk
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <osxdude|laptop> My keyboard stops working after unplugging a wireless device...more info here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/132966
[05:56] <osxdude|laptop> Any help?
[05:56] <loswillios> el_taco: but I guess that was likely the driver
[05:56] <B-rabbit> i am want to  dual boot slackware using vmplayer. Do i need the install vm-server to make this work?
[05:56] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: Yes, I've rebooted several times.
[05:56] <tacos_ubuntu> you WOULDN'T know anything about afk WOULD you bot!
[05:56] <praet> amonkey: maybe you have mouse set to left handed
[05:57] <kidbuntu> anyone had a good gaming experience with an nForce6150?
[05:57] <pawan> shows intialization windows and then shuts off
[05:57] <JohnnyBolivia> Probando conexin
[05:57] <B-rabbit> anyone
[05:57] <Rexor_Moon> so, where can I find the actual game files for my games, rather than just the shell-scripts?
[05:57] <osxdude|laptop> tacos_ubuntu: Please stop abusing the  bot...only experiment in #ubuntu-bots or /msg
[05:57] <mushroomjay> how do I make a shortcut for a program I just installed?
[05:57] <slingintacos> hey guys, anyone know what the cli image veiwer is?
[05:58] <kazol> I can't browse the Windows network-should I reinstall samba?
[05:58] <Pici> slingintacos: cacaview, its in caca-utls package
[05:58] <amonkey> praet, the left and right click are ok, it's the direction the cursor moves
[05:58] <wer> my desktop became large...how do i revert it to small
[05:58] <c0ldfus10n> irc://irc.freenode.net/kazol,isnick How are you browsing
[05:58] <seanpcrowe> JohnnyBolivia,
[05:58] <seanpcrowe> oops
[05:58] <slingintacos> sudo apt-get install caca-utls ?
[05:58] <c0ldfus10n> crap kazol, how are you browsing the workgroup
[05:59] <pawan> azureus not loading
[05:59] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: Under the browse printers and I've also tried Places, Network.
[05:59] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, are u still here???
[05:59] <Frogzoo_> slingintacos: cli image viewer ??
[05:59] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: yup still here
[05:59] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, http://rafb.net/p/qn4foH69.html <---- thats my xorg.conf
[05:59] <seanpcrowe> (text dump)
[05:59] <c0ldfus10n> kazol - I dunno... you may need to re-install.
[06:00] <Rexor_Moon> could someone please tell me where to find installation directories for games?
[06:00] <c0ldfus10n> try removing it completely
[06:00] <kazol> mushroomjay: Do you have acommand for the program that can be run in terminal?
[06:00] <Frogzoo_> Rexor_Moon: dpkg -L will tell you more than you want to know
[06:00] <slingintacos> Frogzoo_: yeah, you know sudo cmd /path/to/image.png
[06:00] <slingintacos> so i don't browse for it in gui
[06:00] <grimeboy> Can I somehow ignore updates for a particular package?
[06:00] <mushroomjay> I'm not sure Kazol.
[06:00] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: So sudo apt-get install samba?
[06:00] <reacocard> hey, I can't see anything shared via avhi, even though I know there is stuff being shared, any ideas?
[06:01] <kazol> mushroomjay: Can you open the terminal, type in the program name, and it will run the app?
[06:01] <SlimeyPe1e> reacocard: you mean ones you've installed? "dpkg -l <package name>" will show you files belonging toa given package
[06:01] <SlimeyPe1e> erm
[06:01] <SlimeyPe1e> Rexor_Moon: ^^
[06:01] <c0ldfus10n> well, do a sudo apt-get remove and then install
[06:01] <reacocard> lol autocomplete ftw
[06:01] <foxiness> reacocard, try to off the firewall "am not sure"
[06:01] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, is my xorg.conf b0rked???
[06:01] <dooglus> grimeboy: I use these 3 functions in my .bashrc to hold, unhold and list held packages: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/hold.txt
[06:01] <mushroomjay> I get a CLI, I wanted to use the GUI.
[06:02] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install synaptic
[06:02] <seanpcrowe> kk
[06:02] <kazol> mushroomjay: The GUI should appear on most apps if you run it in terminal. Try it.
[06:02] <Frogzoo_> !pinning |  grimeboy
[06:02] <ubotu> grimeboy: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:02] <reacocard> foxiness: ah yes, that was it, thanks
[06:02] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: Should I add the --purge switch?
[06:02] <flash42> mushroomjay: what app?
[06:02] <mushroomjay> All right.
[06:02] <mushroomjay> VLC media player
[06:02] <grimeboy> dooglus, Didn't quite understand that Frogzoo_ Thanks
[06:02] <mayorbuttes> Hey, how can I check if a certain package is installed on my system? Working from a CLI
[06:03] <kazol> mushroomjay: Go to the place where you want the shortcut.
[06:03] <Pici> mayorbuttes: apt-cache policy packagename
[06:03] <mushroomjay> Ok.
[06:03] <kazol> mushroomjay: Right click on empty space and click "Create Launcher."
[06:03] <seanpcrowe> ok JohnShortland thats done
[06:03] <mayorbuttes> Pici: thanks. What does the policy do?
[06:03] <slingintacos> tried cacaview, but it sucks, so i just did gimp /path/to/image.png
[06:03] <genii> who had touchpad go upside down on them?
[06:03] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: it installed ok?
[06:03] <slingintacos> it works bettar
[06:03] <dooglus> grimeboy: this is simpler than pinning.  just copy those lines to the end of your ~/.bashrc file, start a new terminal and type "hold gaim" to stop gaim being updated, or "unhold gaim" to allow it to be updated again
[06:03] <seanpcrowe> yeah
[06:03] <GCReady> !dell
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <kazol> mushroomjay: For name and command type in vlc.
[06:04] <mushroomjay> I don't have that option.
[06:04] <mushroomjay> Only Create Folder and Create Document.
[06:04] <Lappy> well that does it, after 3 days of searching for ways to figure out how to fix my Fn keys on my sony vaio FE, it turns out, you simply can NOT! nice.. huh?
[06:04] <flash42> :)
[06:04] <eontastico> OS drive is failing apparently
[06:04] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, i get the same error still...
[06:04] <eontastico> causing all the errors
[06:04] <eontastico> didnt think an OS drive failing would cause files on a seperate disk to corrupt
[06:04] <dooglus> Lappy: of course you can
[06:04] <flash42> mushroomjay: is it possible that you are a liar?
[06:04] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: one sec gonna upload u your updated xorg.conf
[06:04] <seanpcrowe> kk...
[06:05] <mushroomjay> Er.. No.
[06:05] <c0ldfus10n> lol
[06:05] <Lappy> "Since the SNC ACPI extension isn't supported yet, neither webcam nor Fn keys can work. At this time, the linux kernel sony support seems to be Unmaintained."
[06:05] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: in a terminal type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[06:05] <mushroomjay> I could take a screen shot if you'd like.
[06:05] <jc_> does anybody know where it's possible to get packages for the mezzo desktop used in symphonyos?  (repo server is borken)
[06:05] <kazol> mushroomjay: Browse to /usr/bin.
[06:05] <flash42> no, i asked it "just in case"
[06:05] <flash42> :)
[06:05] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, done
[06:06] <Lappy> I haveto wait for the new kernel... .21-rc1 might support the FE series.
[06:06] <seanpcrowe> backup made =)
[06:06] <grimeboy> dooglus, Thanks. Pinning didn't quite look like what I was looking for.
[06:06] <boris_> i inserter a portable disk in my usb and that disk is owned by root so i cant modify it
[06:06] <mushroomjay> Ok, there.
[06:06] <kazol> mushroomjay: Type in "vlc" and you will get the vlc executable highlighted.
[06:06] <boris_> but i need to modify it
[06:06] <kitche> Lappy, hmm .21-rc1 is long gone past now :)
[06:06] <Smegzor> I think I'm doing it wrong.  I am trying to get a remote login to my file server.  Currently I can only vnc into it and only once I have logged into it locally.  If it isn't logged in, I can't connect via vnc.
[06:06] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: here you go: http://rafb.net/p/FijxDJ73.html
[06:06] <dooglus> grimeboy: pinning can probably do what you want, eventually, but these 'hold' and 'unhold' commands are much simpler to use
[06:06] <mushroomjay> All right, and then I can drag and drop the icon where I please?
[06:07] <c0ldfus10n> kazol what's going on with your samba
[06:07] <kazol> mushroomjay: Right click on the executable and click "make link."
[06:07] <mushroomjay> Ok.
[06:07] <elmar> searched absolutely everywhere for a solution.. just can't seem to get my headphones (to work) with my speakers (they work)
[06:07] <mushroomjay> Make link is phased out.
[06:07] <elmar> can anyone help?
[06:07] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: dont forget to remove the line number before your copy and paste it over your xorg.conf
[06:07] <kazol> mushroomjay: You can move the link but don't move the executable or you will not be able to run the app.
[06:07] <etuardu> hi, how do i configure xorg? (i have an intel video card)
[06:07] <Lappy> kitche, as in discontinued?
[06:07] <kitche> Lappy: as in it's been final for a while now
[06:08] <kazol> c0ldfus10n: Should I add the --purge switch?
[06:08] <micman> hello ubuntoers :)
[06:08] <Lappy> kitche, oh.. am still on 2.6.20-16...
[06:08] <dyrne> etuardu: either open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in an editor or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in either case with intel youll want the driver to be i810 i guess
[06:08] <kazol> mushroomjay: Did it work?
[06:08] <alesan> hi. is it possible to remove the limit that a user can login only once in a system through Xdmcp?
[06:08] <eontastico> hopefully this fsck on the drive will not nuke everything
[06:08] <ubuntu_n00b> hi, im a n00b to ubuntu. have a question: can i cancel the "add/remove"-tool ?
[06:08] <Lappy> !updatekernel
[06:08] <mushroomjay> No, the "make link" option isn't available. I see it but it's in grey text.
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about updatekernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <eontastico> it sure is deleting a lot of inodes
[06:08] <c0ldfus10n> kazol - sure
[06:08] <Lappy> !kernel
[06:08] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:08] <kitche> Lappy: yes sicne that is what Ubuntu uses if you want 2.6.21 you would have to compile it yourself unless they release it
[06:08] <etuardu> dyrne: i read about that driver but i don't know where to get it and how to configure
[06:09] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, i presume i just "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" copypasta the 9 lines or so... save... then restart???
[06:09] <flash42> mushroomjay: you don't have it in your ubuntu menu or whatever they call it in the multimedia tab
[06:09] <flash42> am i correct?
[06:09] <kazol> mushroomjay: I have no idea then-sorry. Others here should know how to do it.
[06:09] <Lappy> kitche, I have no idea how to compile a kernel and what not... should I attempt it?
[06:09] <micman> a doubt...i have downloaded  ks8085 0.9.0 microprocessor simulator and have a problem with installin it ..help?
[06:09] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace the whole thing with the new one i uploaded to rafb
[06:10] <mushroomjay> Thanks anyway Kazol, and flash, you're talking about the multimedia tab in applications, and the "Sound & Video" tab, right?
[06:10] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, ok dude...
[06:10] <dyrne> etuardu: its already present. do this: 1) gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   2) scroll to near the bottom of page where it says Driver vesa or whatever and just change it to i810 3) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to close and reload x with new config. just remember if yoiu break something you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure blah
[06:10] <flash42> yeah
[06:10] <flash42> sound and video
[06:10] <mushroomjay> No, it's not there.
[06:10] <flash42> hmm
[06:10] <micman> THIS IS ERROR I GET WHILE TRYING TO CONFIGURE IT: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:11] <flash42> it should be there
[06:11] <therealnanotube> how do you tell if you're running a 64bit or 32bit version of ubuntu? would you see something instead of i686 in the "uname -a" output?
[06:11] <mushroomjay> Perhaps it's something with the GUI based install?
[06:11] <flash42> i've just installed it via apt
[06:11] <kitche> therealnanotube, yes
[06:11] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: once you overwrite your xorg.conf with the one i sent restart the pc. be back in 5 mins, hope it works for you, if x doesnt load after the reboot just type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf to restore your old one and restart again
[06:11] <micman> HELLO plz help. my internet connection is highly unstable :(
[06:11] <Lappy> !kernelcompilation
[06:11] <micman> a doubt...i have downloaded  ks8085 0.9.0 microprocessor simulator and have a problem with installin it ..help?
[06:11] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay - sounds like you may not have root access or something
[06:12] <mushroomjay> I don't think I do.
[06:12] <mushroomjay> Is there anyway to enable it?
[06:12] <therealnanotube> kitche: what do you get as the output for "uname -m", exactly?
[06:12] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay  - not sure how that happened.
[06:12] <flash42> you shall not be able to install anything without superuser privileges
[06:12] <seanpcrowe> kk JohnShortland tryin this now... brb (hopefully :P)
[06:13] <therealnanotube> kitche: i'm trying to have a script detect if the machine is 64bit or 32bit, but i don't have a 64bit machine, so need to know the exact string you get when you're on 64bit...
[06:13] <kitche> therealnanotube, mine is i386 but that's just because I don't use Linux :) it's x86_64
[06:13] <mushroomjay> Mmhmm.
[06:13] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay -  I don't know everything you are trying to do, but have you tried using the command line?
[06:13] <therealnanotube> kitche: thanks. :) what do you use? bsd? :)
[06:13] <micman> a doubt...i have downloaded  ks8085 0.9.0 microprocessor simulator and have a problem with installin it ..help me?
[06:14] <kitche> therealnanotube, yes I use FreeBSD
[06:14] <alesan> hi. is it possible to remove the limit that a user can login only once in a system through Xdmcp?
[06:14] <mushroomjay> No, I haven't.
[06:14] <PCboy123> Hello everyone.. first of great OS im new to this... I only have one lil problem how do i get my CD-DVD Rom Device to mount.. i tried the forums and the tips and tricks they got but no luck..
[06:14] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay, are you trying to create a shortcut to something on your desktop?
[06:14] <Pici> !ask | micman
[06:14] <ubotu> micman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <therealnanotube> kitche: a very nice os :) i used to run it on some servers back in the day
[06:14] <mushroomjay> Yeah, that was my original plan. Heh.
[06:15] <boris_> i inserter a removable disk and i cant write to it cuz its owned by root i gained root privileges and tried to change permissions and it says that it cant change permissions cuz its a read-only disk whys that ?
[06:15] <therealnanotube> PCboy123: it should mount automatically when you insert a disk....
[06:15] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay - open up a terminal window and do cd /home/(your username)
[06:15] <boris_> inserted
[06:15] <micman> pici: i downloaded a 8085 micro processor sim. i have problem configuring it
[06:15] <etuardu> dyrne: thank you!
[06:15] <mushroomjay> ok
[06:15] <dyrne> etuardu: np
[06:15] <c0ldfus10n> now cd Desktop
[06:15] <Lustblader> hi every1
[06:15] <mushroomjay> All right, that's done.
 I know thats what i been told but so far no luck.. funny thing i used it to install the os.
[06:16] <Lustblader> any1 know any media player that allows many tabbed playlists???
[06:16] <Pici> micman: Oh, I thought you were having trouble installing it.  sorry, I dont think I;ll be able to help
[06:16] <Pici> Lustblader: I think exaile does.
[06:16] <c0ldfus10n> now you can do a ln -s to create a symbolic link on your desktop to whatever file you want. You will have to actually use sudo ln -s... if you don't know the syntax of the ln command, do a man ln
[06:17] <Lustblader> Pici: anyother suggest?
[06:17] <micman> pici: ok... thank u for responding
[06:17] <Pici> Lustblader: I cant think of anything, sorry.
[06:17] <Funcan> Lo all. Anybody name a quick & easy cd/dvd burning frontend that is in ubuntu?
[06:17] <xtknight> Funcan, brasero
[06:17] <Pici> Funcan: gnomebaker or k3b
[06:17] <Lustblader> k thankx man Pici
[06:18] <tErNetBolivia> Prueba de conexin
[06:18] <therealnanotube> PCboy123: what happens if you run "mount -a" after inserting the disk, does it appear?
[06:18] <Funcan> Cheers
[06:18] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay - got it?
[06:18] <mushroomjay> Er..
[06:19] <mushroomjay> I'm not really sure what to do at the point.
[06:19] <therealnanotube> PCboy123: and is it listed in the output of just plain "mount"
[06:19] <TheimonAway> 0/ DivX-GuY
[06:19] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay: in your Desktop directory there, type sudo ln -s /home/     <just as an example>
[06:19] <disasm> Funcan: what about the default gnome burning stuff? I've never used it, stick to CLI for most things, but a number of the faculty haven't had any complaints with it
[06:19] <PCboy123> Nothing happends
[06:19] <DivX-GuY> hoi
[06:20] <PCboy123> its a removeable drive.. im running it off a Dell Latitude D830
[06:20] <Funcan> disasm: Can't find it...
[06:20] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay - you should then see a new link on your desktop
[06:21] <mushroomjay> It's a folder that says home, has a lock icon and a curved arrow icon on it.
[06:21] <c0ldfus10n> ok sorry - in your command line, type sudo rm home
[06:21] <c0ldfus10n> and then do the ln -s command again without the sudo in front of it (I'm used to working in root)
[06:22] <sharperguy> any info on the new backported version of amarok?
[06:23] <mushroomjay> In the ln -s command what do I type as the file operand?
[06:24] <c0ldfus10n> try "ln -s myHome /home/
[06:24] <c0ldfus10n> *"
[06:25] <mushroomjay> The next line in the Command Line is a >, what does that mean?
[06:25] <c0ldfus10n> that means you did something wrong....
[06:25] <c0ldfus10n> actually I have the command wrong - I don't know the exact syntax.
[06:25] <c0ldfus10n> just get back to your prompt
[06:25] <mushroomjay> All right.
[06:25] <kitche> mushroomjay, it's waiting for the ending most likely
[06:25] <c0ldfus10n> and type ln -s /home/
[06:26] <jc_> anyone have info on getting the mezzo desktop going in ubuntu?
[06:26] <c0ldfus10n> press cntl-d or c if you have to
[06:26] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: did it work?
[06:26] <seanpcrowe> lulz JohnShortland no it didnt...
[06:26] <seanpcrowe> i had to use the backup .conf to boot again...
[06:26] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: what errors did you get?
[06:27] <seanpcrowe> mmm... this touchoad just doesn't wanna work :s
[06:27] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, none, just stopped at a flashing cursor...
[06:27] <c0ldfus10n> mushroomjay - whatcha got
[06:27] <mushroomjay> Er.. Nothing.
[06:28] <seanpcrowe> this is after the kubuntu logo... JohnShortland
[06:28] <c0ldfus10n> :)
[06:28] <mushroomjay> Do you think it would be easier to do this in a private chat?
[06:28] <c0ldfus10n> probably
[06:28] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: just after grub
[06:28] <dooglus> mushroomjay: do you have something in the 'applications' menu for launching the program?  if so, just drag that to your desktop
[06:28] <seanpcrowe> grub > kubuntu logo doing stuff > flashing cursor...
[06:28] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, ^^^^
[06:29] <mushroomjay> No I don't dooglus.
[06:29] <barbie19> hi, can i change my gnome wallpaper from shell? as by specifying it in some file?
[06:29] <dooglus> mushroomjay: what's the program?  and how did you install it?
[06:29] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: what laptop is it by the way?
[06:29] <benn92647> YAY!
[06:29] <mushroomjay> VLC, using the Synaptic Package Manager, but at the moment I'm getting help in a private chat.
[06:29] <seanpcrowe> advent qt5500 JohnShortland ... bout 2 months old
[06:29] <benn92647> I did it all by myself
[06:30] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: make another backup of your working xorg.conf and ill give you another one to try
[06:30] <benn92647> can some help me install the latest nvidia drivers on my amd64 version?
[06:30] <dooglus> barbie19: I expect you need to edit the /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename gconf key
[06:31] <futureng> hi
[06:31] <westly> where to download ubuntu studio
[06:31] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, ok...
[06:31] <new2ubunt> Hello, I have a question regarding wireless connectivity in Ubunt 7.04
[06:31] <Sonicadvance1> http://preview.tinyurl.com/28hcey
[06:31] <benn92647> wireless is easy
[06:32] <tebriel_> i'm trying to configure vsftpd via a vsftpd.conf file i placed in /etc/ but after a restart of vsftpd it ignores my preferences, i installed via aptitude is the .conf file possibly somewhere else?
[06:32] <benn92647> go to network settings and youwill just have to do it manually but it will work
[06:32] <new2ubunt> for my wireless, it shows 4 blue bars in the taskbar tray icon, but i still can't get firefox to work
[06:32] <barbie19> dooglus: and where is this file, means there is no such thing like /desk... actually m creatin a questionnaire for a quiz event. so can u specify more correctly
[06:32] <lorena77> ola
[06:33] <dooglus> barbie19: gconftool-2 --type string --set /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename /home/chris/Desktop/file.jpg
[06:33] <new2ubunt> i did try manually. i entered in all my info. ip, subnet, gateway, etc.
[06:33] <wolferine> benn92647, issues, or starting from the beginning?
[06:33] <kazim59> Is there anyway to know the network traffic going on? Which website is being connected and data transferred?
[06:33] <benn92647> what message do you get "cant connect to server"
[06:34] <mushroomja1> I'm sorry for that, I just got disconnected.
[06:34] <barbie19> oh wow!!! THANK U
[06:34] <dooglus> barbie19: /desktop/ isn't a directory, it's more like something in the Winows registry, if you know what that is
[06:34] <PCboy123> Hello everyone.. first of great OS im new to this... I only have one lil problem how do i get my CD-DVD Rom Device to mount.. i tried the forums and the tips and tricks they got but no luck..
[06:34] <barbie19> kazim59: yes!! ethreal
[06:34] <new2ubunt> on my wireless, it says i have connected to it, it even shows it at 70% range, but still cannot get firefox to work
[06:34] <dooglus> kazim59: wireshark
[06:35] <faileas> i thought ethereal is also called wireshark..
[06:35] <wolferine> new2ubunt, can you ping say, google?
[06:35] <wolferine> faileas, it is
[06:35] <dooglus> !info wireshark
[06:35] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[06:35] <seanpcrowe> the main problem i think JohnShortland is that kubuntu thinks my touchpad is a mouse instead of a touchpad...
[06:35] <new2ubunt> hhmm wolf?
[06:35] <dooglus> !info ethereal
[06:35] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 21 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:35] <benn92647> you could just reinstall firefox, see if that works, tht would probably be the easiest thing to try
[06:35] <wolferine> new2ubunt, man ping
[06:35] <genii> wolferine: I'm suspecting dns in his case
[06:35] <new2ubunt> ping?
[06:36] <bobgill> How do I add a file to a .tar? I have stuff.tar.gz, and I want to add say /folder/file.txt to it, what's the cmd line ?
[06:36] <tebriel_> new2ubunt: in your console/terminal type ping google.com
[06:36] <dooglus> new2ubunt: he means: "open a termnial, type "ping www.google.com" and hit return; what happens?"
[06:36] <new2ubunt> ok teb, what do i look for when i do that?
[06:36] <tebriel_> well, what does it say
[06:36] <new2ubunt> im in windows now, i'll have to restart and try it, haha.
[06:37] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: here you go give this one a try: http://rafb.net/p/CCGAYB93.html again just replace your whole xorg.conf with this one, i set it to use the device that works now but using the synaptics driver instead which should allow scrolling etc etc.
[06:37] <lysdexsik> re
[06:37] <Toddler> im connected to my windows share on my windowsXP box and its filled with MP3 files how do i "get"  them all at once ???
[06:37] <winbond> is anyone here good with electronics or electricity?
[06:37] <seanpcrowe> okok...
[06:37] <seanpcrowe> thx JohnShortland  =)
[06:37] <new2ubunt> i'll brb
[06:37] <Toddler>  i tried " get *" and " get *.*"  before
[06:37] <genii> new2ubunt: Yes, there will be some stuff to type into a terminal here to diagnose things. you should just keep one open for this.    in there type:  ping www.google.com   and see if it gives anything informative
[06:37] <dooglus> winbond: I'm quite conductive
[06:37] <DrHalan> how can i add a public key for a packet source?
[06:37] <new2ubunt> ok genii, thanks all
[06:37] <DrHalan> *to
[06:37] <c0ldfus10n> dooglus check your dielectric
[06:37] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[06:38] <wolferine> Toddler, view the dir, ctrl-a (select all), then copy/paste where you like
[06:38] <winer> Can someone point me to a link on setting a color depth to a specific screen resolution? - Thank You in advance.
[06:38] <dooglus> c0ldfus10n: my resistance is low
[06:38] <c0ldfus10n> the angle of the dangle is inversly pro...
[06:38] <Toddler> wolferine: im in a terminal window
[06:38] <wolferine> Toddler, man cp
[06:38] <benn92647> ok i had the beta version of nvida drivers when i was running edgy/fiesty fawn-i now have AMD64 running...how to i install the new nvidia drivers..
[06:38] <dooglus> c0ldfus10n: ohm y god
[06:39] <c0ldfus10n> lol
[06:39] <wolferine> winer, what depth are you looking at hitting?
[06:39] <Sven_vB> how do i do SFTP with ubuntu? i tried to enter sftp://sven:my-password@192.168.2.5:22/ into nautlius' adress bar but it says "access denied". however, from a windows PC with WinSCP i can connect.
[06:39] <winbond> dooglus: im trying to mod a old cellphone charger for my mp3 player, its .1v and 70mv over the stock one, id like to know if thats a signifficant difference
[06:39] <benn92647> i have pkg
[06:39] <wolferine> benn92647, Feisty?
[06:39] <winbond> dooglus: aka, is it gonna fry my player
[06:39] <Toddler> wolferine: doesnt work when connected with smbclient to a share
[06:39] <benn92647> i'm running AMD 64 right now
[06:39] <tebriel_> does anyone know how i can find out where vsftpd is looking for its .conf file?
[06:39] <dooglus> winbond: I managed to break a torch last week, so I'm probably not the right person to ask
[06:40] <wolferine> benn92647, AMD is the processor
[06:40] <winer> wolferine - Hey thank you for trying to answer this i have been googling for it all morning. i need 256 colors @ 640x480 + normal desktop color depths for the desktop.
[06:40] <wolferine> Toddler, so you can or cannot view the share?
[06:40] <winbond> dooglus: k
[06:40] <kefka> !distcc
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <wolferine> winer, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:40] <benn92647> -wolverine ran into a problem with my fiesty fawn and forefox so switched to the 64 bit version of linux-i thought it was called AMD64
[06:40] <kefka> !info distcc
[06:40] <ubotu> distcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 143 kB, installed size 372 kB
[06:40] <david003> hello. is there a log file that logs all the writing that you can read at boot time?
[06:40] <Toddler> wolferine im in the share
[06:40] <DrHalan> i wanna do sth lke that but terminal tells me curl doesnt exsist: curl http://www.tt-solutions.com/vz/key.asc | apt-key add -
[06:41] <dooglus> Sven_vB: are you sure about the :22 ?
[06:41] <wolferine> winer, look at your xorg.conf, and see it the res/colors you like are there
[06:41] <wolferine> Toddler, man cp
[06:41] <winer> wolferine - Okay, I see it.
[06:41] <Toddler> wolferine: in the shared dir with all the mp3s
 install curl then...
[06:41] <genii> david003: /var/log/dmesg
[06:41] <huszy> david003 /var/log/dmesg
[06:41] <softwork> good host server?
[06:41] <mosno> strange -- feisty couldn't detect my network hardware at install time, but it can at boot time (default kernel). what gives? i'm running the atl1 (gigabit ethernet on Asus P3SV laptop)
[06:41] <benn92647> -wolverine its the 64 bit version of linux
[06:41] <Sven_vB> dooglus: yes. it is the port that i use in WinSCP and afaik the default SSH port
[06:41] <mosno> note: i was using feisty alternate install CD
[06:41] <wolferine> benn92647, are you using Feisty (asking again)
[06:41] <benn92647> -wolverine no
[06:42] <dooglus> Sven_vB: did you try using the 'sftp' command line tool?
[06:42] <wolferine> benn92647, then consukt the 'ubuntu guide' google it
[06:42] <benn92647> -i am running version 7.04 of the 64 bit version of linux
[06:42] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: did you try it
[06:42] <wolferine> benn92647, 7.04 is Feisty
[06:42] <Sven_vB> dooglus: no. i'm looking for a graphical file transfer app
[06:42] <wolferine> benn92647, so your response should be yes
[06:42] <wolferine> as appose to 'no'
[06:42] <genii> david003: There are also other logs there in /var/log/   like: messages boot faillog    and so on
[06:43] <benn92647> -LOL thats funny, I guess then my system upgraded to fiesty
[06:43] <wolferine> benn92647, enable your restricted drivers, with the 'restricted drivers manager'
[06:43] <winer> wolferine - changing the default color depth is easy. assigning one color depth to one screen resolution is a puzzle.
[06:43] <benn92647> -woleverine ok
[06:43] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, tryin it in 2 minutes...
[06:43] <wolferine> winer, you can set it specific in your xorg.conf, as for doing it on the fly, i beleive there are hot keys to do it, i just dont know off the top of my head
[06:44] <wolferine> winer, the hot keys allow you to cycle through res.s
[06:44] <tim167> i have an ubuntu installation that hangs at the first ubuntu logo (after grub). the progression bar doesnt move. any idea what I can do ?
[06:44] <dooglus> Sven_vB: I just managed to connect using nautilus with sftp://marp@ftp.retrogames.com/bin
[06:44] <wolferine> benn92647, also might want to check that ubuntu guide anyways, lots of good info
[06:44] <dooglus> Sven_vB: I didn't specify a password - probably the login is a public key thing
[06:44] <wolferine> tim167, can you ctrl-alt-f1 into a terminal (to undo ctrl-alt-f7)
[06:45] <Sven_vB> dooglus: oh that's a good idea, i'll try that
[06:45] <winer> wolferine - I am just not searching for the right word. - What should i be looking for?
[06:45] <tim167> wolferine, if i do that  i only see 'Starting up...', no prompt appears...
[06:45] <wolferine> winer, 'hot key linux change resolution' possibly?
[06:45] <wolferine> winer or ask in #linux
[06:45] <winer> wolferine - Thank You again for your help. :)
[06:45] <dooglus> Sven_vB: I'd try it with a password, only I've forgotten what the password is
[06:45] <wolferine> tim167, if you do what?
[06:46] <wolferine> winer np
[06:46] <tim167> ctrl+alt+F1
[06:46] <Sven_vB> just to be sure, will nautilus tell me when it has no sftp support or will it give the wrong error message "access denied" also in this case?
[06:46] <wolferine> tim167, you should be in a shell when you enter those keys, at the login screen
[06:46] <wolferine> Sven_vB, try an FTP client maybe?
[06:47] <tim167> wolferine, well it just says 'Starting up...' no shell appears as it would normally....
[06:47] <wolferine> tim167, is this on another box, or the one your using?
[06:47] <tim167> wolferine another box
[06:47] <huszy> tim167, dual boot box ?
[06:47] <benn92647> how to i enable clear text in linux?
[06:47] <wolferine> tim167, can you toggle the 'numlock' and see if your keyboard is working?
[06:48] <faileas> benn92647: methinks its 'clear'
[06:48] <tim167> huszy well yes...multi boot actually, i tried many distros on it
[06:48] <wolferine> tim167, so it is on this current box?
[06:48] <Sven_vB> wolferine: Nautilus did work for that some versions ago, and dooglus's nautilus seems to do SFTP as well, so i think there's no need for more software
[06:48] <tim167> yes keyboard / numlock works
[06:48] <benn92647> do i type clear in terminal?
[06:48] <faileas> yes
[06:48] <wolferine> tim167, when you are at the splash screen?
[06:48] <tim167> wolferine, no not the one i am typing this conversation on, its on another computer
[06:49] <benn92647> nope didnt work?
[06:49] <TBotNik_u> Sorry all, back, was afk.
[06:49] <tim167> wolferine, yes the screen that has the ubuntu logo and a progression bar
[06:49] <wolferine> tim167, ok, and its stuck at the screen as we speak?
[06:49] <tim167> wolferine yes
[06:49] <wolferine> tim167, ctrl-alt-F1 does nothing?
[06:49] <wolferine> yet your keyboard is working?
[06:50] <Sven_vB> the problem cured itself. dunno what the reason is, maybe a timer thing
[06:50] <tim167> wolferine it makes the splash screen go away, but only to give a black screen with 'Starting up...' nothing else
[06:50] <Sven_vB> anyway, thanks :)
[06:50] <wolferine> tim167, yes, a terminal
[06:50] <wolferine> tim167, is the screen res 'off' in the terminal?
[06:51] <wolferine> for example, a 600X800 display or less?
[06:51] <tim167> wolferine, no, i can not type anything, it should give the terminal but there ise only the words 'Starting up...', so no user@computer:~$
[06:51] <huszy> tim167, it happened to me when grub tried to boot from a different root partition, maybe try to catch grub and boot manually
[06:51] <wolferine> see above
[06:52] <tim167> wolferine i dont really see what you mean by screen res 'Off'... ?
[06:52] <wolferine> tim167, I gave an example
[06:52] <tim167> huszy, how do I catch grub ?
[06:53] <wolferine> is your res, a lower end res, not allowing you to view the entire screen
[06:53] <tim167> wolferine, no its a full res screen
[06:53] <wolferine> tim167, its a dual boot system?
[06:53] <wolferine> tim167, ubuntu after windows?
[06:53] <tim167> ah! i got something now: /bin/ssh: can't acces tty, job control turned off
[06:54] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: it work?
[06:54] <wolferine> you can change to multiple shells, ctrl-alt-F* keys
[06:54] <monteiro> anyone knows a good vector program to make website templates?
[06:54] <tim167> wolferine : several ubuntu's a dynebolic...etc..., but at least one of them worked before... now none
[06:55] <wolferine> tim167, english only please :)
[06:55] <tim167> i got a prompt like this now (initramfs)
[06:56] <Moki> join #ubuntu-locoteams
[06:57] <Dim45> N
[06:57] <tim167> wolferine, i could do a new install on another disk and acces the data on this one from there, but i'd prefer to repair this boot
[06:57] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, didn't work dude :s
[06:57] <seanpcrowe> lulz... >.<
[06:57] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: did x start with the new xorg.conf?
[06:58] <seanpcrowe> is there a way to select which driver kubuntu uses for the trackpad??? cause it currentally thinks its a standard mouse,..
[06:58] <daedra> !boot
[06:58] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:59] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, no x didnt start.,..
[06:59] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:59] <daedra> ah /etc/rc.local
[06:59] <xtknight> tim167, sounds like bad news
[06:59] <xtknight> tim167, what kind of PC?  Core 2 duo, jmicron IDE controller?
[06:59] <seanpcrowe> is there no GUI way of doing it JohnShortland & xtknight ???
[06:59] <tim167> xtknight, hmm ok...i was just thinking maybe i should use another connector for the drive
[06:59] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, as it stands no
[07:00] <JohnShortland> seanpcrowe: your after stumping me man
[07:00] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, there is an ncurses (command line wizard) interface: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <kidbuntu> where could i see on gimp on what current layer i am working?
[07:00] <tim167> xtknight, a amd machine, no dual, no idea about the IDE controller...
[07:00] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, but this will have you reconfigure the whole X server, vidoe, etc
[07:00] <seanpcrowe> JohnShortland, :s
[07:00] <xtknight> tim167, what motherboard?
[07:01] <Artimus> I see a package category called "feisty-proposed".  What's the status of that software?
[07:01] <andy_rh> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu, add remove tool, can somebody help ?
[07:01] <seanpcrowe> kubuntu just wont seem to view my touchoad as a touchoad >.< lulz
[07:01] <Pelo> kidbuntu, the ppl in #gimp can advise you better on  this,  it's a toolbox but I don'T rightly remember how to trun it on atm
[07:01] <seanpcrowe> *tiuchpad
[07:01] <feliciano> hello guys... look: I'm using Opera and now Its frezze a lot, when I run it from a terminal this is the error I got... please help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33950/
[07:01] <seanpcrowe> *touchoad
[07:01] <tim167> xtknightgigabyte ga-6nf-9
[07:01] <seanpcrowe> >.<
[07:01] <seanpcrowe> *touchpad =)
[07:01] <seanpcrowe> lol
[07:01] <tim167> xtknight gigabyte ga-6nf-9
[07:01] <xtknight> tim167, hmm no google results on this
[07:02] <mushroomjay> Sorry for that, again.
[07:02] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, i wouldn't wanna do that because kubuntu has a hard time of reconising my intel GMA945 GFX... i might lose my 1280x800 res...
[07:02] <tim167> xtknight gigabyte ga-k8nf-9 sorry typo
[07:03] <xtknight> tim167, hmm looks like an nforce4 controller
[07:04] <ipx> What's the name of the additional keyboard buttons package?
[07:04] <w30> I can't get gnome-session to run in vncserver. I need some help on the right stuff to put in .vnc/xstartup.
[07:04] <xtknight> tim167, ive never heard of the problem with that.  but there are possible solutions like "all-generic-ide"
[07:04] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, change the "input" driver to what you want, e.g. "synaptics" for synaptics touchpads
[07:04] <Davy_Jones> if i want to install compiz-fusion, do i have to uninstall beryl and compiz?
[07:04] <Pelo> ipx, just seach in synaptic for keyboard
[07:05] <PriceChild> Davy_Jones, fusion is an extension of compiz. And ask in #ubuntu-effects please
[07:05] <tim167> xtknight ik i can try that...
[07:05] <ipx> Pelo: i just did, couldn't find it :)
[07:05] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, i tried that with johnshortlands help... it just stops x from loading
[07:05] <Pelo> ipx, keymap or key map or key mapping maybe
[07:05] <mike3> has anyone every heard of (reverse?) mounting a directory/playlist in linux to an outgoing USB cable, which is plugged into a stereo that can read mp3 files from a USB drive?
[07:05] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, i need the "lspci -n" line for your trackpad
[07:06] <ipx> Pelo: i'll give it a try
[07:06] <Pelo> ipx,  you'Re not talking about the SCIM thingy are you ? that is alreay installed  check in the admin menu
[07:06] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, i dont know what that means... i'm a leenox n00b dude :s
[07:06] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, ok
[07:06] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, open a terminal
[07:07] <seanpcrowe> ok
[07:07] <tim167> xtknight, can you give me any hints on how to try this all-generic-ide thing ?
[07:07] <ipx> Pelo: hm on my last installation (reinstalled today) i found some nice package in the repos that activated all my media buttons on my keyboard, like pause, next etc
[07:07] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, type "sudo lshw" and pastebin it
[07:07] <xtknight> !pastebin | seanpcrowe
[07:07] <ubotu> seanpcrowe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:07] <Pelo> ipx, ah,  check in the forum for multimedia keyboard
[07:08] <ipx> Pelo: ok :) thanks
[07:08] <TBotNik_u> seanpcrowe: My son is Sean M. Crowe, related?
[07:09] <xtknight> tim167, you can try adding these parameters at ubuntu's kernel command line: "all-generic-ide irqpoll pci=nommconf"
[07:09] <xtknight> tim167, you can access this by pressing, i believe, F6, at the ubuntu livecd.
[07:09] <xtknight> tim167, you just add those options in place of the "--" you will see at the end.  the "--" there tells you where you should put extra parameters.  press F6 on the normal ubuntu install option and add these
[07:09] <seanpcrowe> lulz TBotNik_u.... no
[07:09] <xtknight> these tell the kernel to try other things
[07:10] <marcin__> hi all
[07:10] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, http://rafb.net/p/I9z0kz36.html <----- there we go
[07:10] <marcin__> i have just install a compiz
[07:10] <kevor> Hello, is there something like mdnsresponder for Ubuntu?
[07:10] <kevor> i'm on dapper
[07:10] <marcin__> can you tell me how can i run it
[07:10] <tim167> xtknight, ok i'll have a look, thanks!
[07:10] <marcin__> by console
[07:10] <Pelo> marcin__, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[07:10] <marcin__> ok
[07:11] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, ok, well unfortunately i dont see a touchpad entry in here
[07:11] <xtknight> probably fooled me too
[07:11] <seanpcrowe> what does this mean xtknight ???
[07:12] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, it means i have no idea how to fix your problem, essentially.  you can give me "lspci" and "lsusb" also just to see..
[07:13] <tim167> xtknight: news: i just changed the drive to another IDE connector of the motherboard and now it does load! (it was in the green one, now in the white one)
[07:13] <kevor> how can i setup a beacon like this on Ubuntu? mDNSProxyResponderPosix 127.0.0.1 squeal "shareName" _daap._tcp. 3689 &
[07:13] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, URL: http://rafb.net/p/5CxYmt32.html
[07:13] <zePh7r> is latest version of compiz (0.5.2) in the official repos? I can't find it
[07:14] <meoblast001> whats the best VM where i can run preinstalled operating systems and is free???
[07:14] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, i dont see a mouse or touchpad entry here either.  so im not sure what driver to be using.  i dont even see a device
[07:14] <xtknight> tim167, interesting
[07:14] <TheimonAway> meoblast001, vmware player
[07:14] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, http://rafb.net/p/0HF8XH87.html
[07:14] <zePh7r> or at least the latest stable version (0.4.0)?
[07:14] <xtknight> usb ports are all empty too
[07:15] <faileas> if your gonn install VMware, go for server
[07:15] <meoblast001> TheimonAway: but i need VMware Workstation to make the VM files
[07:15] <meoblast001> TheimonAway: which costs money
[07:15] <faileas> meoblast001: server makes VMs, and is free
[07:15] <meoblast001> ok
[07:15] <TheimonBeer> vmware server isn't freeware right?
[07:15] <TheimonBeer> workstation isnt either
[07:15] <meoblast001> its free
[07:15] <meoblast001> workstation isnt
[07:15] <faileas> its freeware
[07:15] <TheimonBeer> hmm didnt know that
[07:16] <faileas> ;)
[07:16] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, does it mean i'm just fecked then???
[07:16] <faileas> its quite awesome ;)
[07:16] <TheimonBeer> another user here pointed me too this site yesterday: www.easyvmx.com
[07:16] <TheimonBeer> havent used it myself
[07:16] <xtknight> seanpcrowe, last option is probalby to google your laptop model and linux.  see if anyone else got it working
[07:16] <TheimonBeer> i got workstation going here
[07:16] <xtknight> ubuntu also has more or less official VM images
[07:16] <zePh7r> is latest version of compiz (0.5.2) in the official repos?or at least the latest stable version (0.4.0)? I can't find it
[07:16] <meoblast001> Ubuntu crashed my computer earlier
[07:16] <dyrne> vmware server is free ya just need to register on vmware's website for a key i believe. it is a much much better alternative to player
[07:16] <seanpcrowe> xtknight, ok dude...
[07:16] <xtknight> Ubuntu VMs: http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/
[07:16] <meoblast001> now i have to find a file called hal.dll
[07:17] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?hal <-------
[07:17] <TheimonBeer> ???
[07:17] <meoblast001> a question has come up in my mind
[07:17] <dyrne> uh oh
[07:17] <meoblast001> what are the 2 bars on the right of Xchat
[07:18] <palintheus> meoblast001: hover your curser over them and it will tell you
[07:18] <notstudent> Good morning =)  I would like to perform a linux terminal command for all files in that directory instead of just one.  Is there some way to do this?  For example:  ps2ascii input.pdf output.txt   --but for all files in that directory.  I tried ps2ascii *.pdf *.txt but this did not work.. anyone?
[07:18] <meoblast001> lag
[07:19] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: this beter not be a virus
[07:19] <TheimonBeer> i've used files from them before
[07:19] <xtknight> notstudent, find *.pdf | xargs -l1 ps2ascii
[07:19] <TheimonBeer> for wine and such
[07:19] <xtknight> notstudent, likewise for txt
[07:19] <Lappy> my external USB mouse's middle click doesn't work... how can I fix it?
[07:19] <TheimonBeer> no danger at all
[07:20] <TBotNik_u> Any server gurus online?
[07:20] <genefitz> meoblast: as far as you missing hal.dll, may want to try starting here.. http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/restorehaldll.htm
[07:20] <xtknight> "hal.dll missing" is usually helpless and requires windows installation
[07:20] <xtknight> reinstallation*
[07:20] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, remember to register the .dll by regsvr32.exe
[07:20] <glynnm> Hi, I have a problem with eth0's default route still showing up after ppp0's has been added. (so I have both ppp0 and eth0 with routes for 0.0.0.0). Anyone know how I can disable eth0 from setting a 0.0.0.0 route?
[07:21] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: what you talkin bout willis?
[07:21] <Pc-Ente> hi
[07:21] <TheimonBeer> usually it's instant death on na regular  windows install when you're missing it, but for use with wine it's ok
[07:21] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, what?
[07:21] <Pc-Ente> I Want do Stream the complete audio from PC1 to PC2. I mean everythink with falsh-firefox systemsound etc.
[07:21] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: well im not root so i cant copy the file in
[07:21] <mushroomjay> I need to create a superuser account. Can someone tell me how?
[07:22] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, in ubuntu?
[07:22] <notstudent> xtknight: thank you!  So that runs "ps2ascii" for each .pdf file?  Is there some way to have it use the same name for the output file as each input pdf?
[07:22] <meoblast001> mushroomjay: i could use that too
[07:22] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: yes
[07:22] <meoblast001> im not root
[07:22] <TheimonBeer> you dont need to be root.......
[07:22] <daedra> yo: is there a way to bind a command to a click in gnome?
[07:22] <meoblast001> only root can touch mounted partitions
[07:22] <TheimonBeer> what are you trying to do?
[07:22] <mushroomjay> Trying to install VLC.
[07:22] <dho_ragus> !root
[07:22] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:23] <daedra> I want "Empty Items in Trash" to run shred * && rm -rf *
[07:23] <TheimonBeer> no firstoff.......what do you want to use the hal.dll for?
[07:23] <xtknight> notstudent, not sure.  "man ps2ascii" for the manual on it?
[07:23] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: copy it to /Windows/system32/ on my windows part.
[07:23] <turtle_> .
[07:23] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, real windows partition? of the VMware one?
[07:23] <TheimonBeer> of=or
[07:23] <Lappy> !kernel
[07:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:24] <xtknight> notstudent, im not sure how to specify the file parameter more than once but im sure it's possible with "xargs"
[07:24] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: sorry my real one
[07:24] <meoblast001> Theimon: remounted it to a mount folder in my home though
[07:24] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, you got a shared partition?
[07:24] <notstudent> xtknight: alright, I'll check into xargs.  Thanks =)
[07:25] <tim167> my monitor gives 'input not supported' when x tries to start, i tried Xorg -configure, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but still same problem, what can i do ?
[07:25] <meoblast001> oh no its still broke
[07:25] <meoblast001> whats a shared partition
[07:25] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, you can have a small FAT partition on your harddrive which both OS can read/write
[07:26] <palintheus> meoblast001: a partition that both ubuntu and windows can read so you can put commonly used documents in and use in both OS's
[07:26] <TheimonBeer> but with ntfs-3g it doesnt necessarily have to be FAT anymoire
[07:26] <TheimonBeer> but
[07:26] <Ben_Cs> hello
[07:26] <xtknight> tim167, what monitor?
[07:26] <TheimonBeer> you want to copy it to your windrive meoblast001 ?
[07:26] <TheimonBeer> but it gives you an error about not being root?
[07:26] <hammedhaaret> Hi.  i got a problem with a live cd.  just bought a new computer without a OS.  now im trying to boot from the 7.04 live cd.   i get to the first menu but when i hit enter to start ubuntu it halts with this error message: '/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off'   ...does anyone know whats wrong?
[07:26] <daedra> I want "Empty Items in Trash" to run shred * && rm -rf *
[07:26] <new2ubuntu> hello, I'm back
[07:26] <tim167> acer, some flatscreen works on other box with ubuntu and other videocard
[07:27] <xtknight> tim167, what size (or resolution)?
[07:27] <new2ubuntu> when i did ping www.google.com in the terminal, it just says unknown host name
[07:27] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: i just mount the Windows partition and put stuff i know ill use on windows their
[07:27] <xtknight> tim167, and is it widescreen?
[07:27] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, and does it work?
[07:27] <tim167> xtknight i popped in another videocard, now it says something about PCI...
[07:27] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: it used to on Wubi
[07:27] <tim167> 17 inch 1280x1024
[07:27] <xtknight> hmm
[07:28] <meoblast001> but now that i had to get a new copy of Ubuntu it wont
[07:28] <eontastico> i cant seem to find the apt entry for   mdadm raid tool
[07:28] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, what is the exact error message you get when you try to move hal.dll to the windows partition?
[07:28] <xtknight> !info mdadm | eontastico
[07:28] <ubotu> eontastico: mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.6-7ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 225 kB, installed size 664 kB
[07:28] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "mount".
[07:29] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, only root can mount
[07:29] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: sudo mount is what i did to mount it
[07:29] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, is your windows partition NTFS or FAT?
[07:29] <meoblast001> NTFS the worst one
[07:29] <TheimonBeer> NTFS is better than FAT for that matter
[07:30] <TheimonBeer> but
[07:30] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer i need to chmod
[07:30] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, use the how-to by givre, it enables you to mount the NTFS partition in a way that you can r/w as normal user
[07:31] <Lappy> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> <-- ??
[07:31] <TheimonBeer> !ntfs-3g
[07:31] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:31] <hammedhaaret> Hi again.  just bought a new computer without a OS.  booted from the 7.04 live cd, but after hitting enter to start ubuntu in the  first menu, it stops with this error message: '/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off'   ...does anyone know whats wrong? thx
[07:31] <tim167> hmm now i get "could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF removing from list!" ... argh...
[07:31] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[07:32] <Nick_Fornarotto> can anyone give me a hand with a problem i'm having with a network card?
[07:32] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: the package manager is a bit tied up at the moment
[07:32] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, uhm....ok
[07:32] <TheimonBeer> you're busy upgrading?
[07:32] <meoblast001> i need to chmod the whole thing
[07:32] <bethany> hello
[07:32] <meoblast001> no im getting VM Server
[07:33] <aldaek> is there a way to stop ubuntu 7.04 from crawling through i/o errors on the partitioner part of install?
[07:33] <meoblast001> so i can run my windows and linux simultaneously
[07:33] <Lappy> hammedhaaret, there's a lot of issues that give that error... i'll let you know what I found out: 1) floppy drive | 2) CDRom | 3) HardDrive... something is incompatible, search for that error on google.. u'll find the floppy-drive fix, if htat doesn't work.. look for the cdrom, if that doesn't work.. strip down your pc of all its hardware, and plug in 1 hardware at a time, and u'll know the problem :) sorry, that's the best I can do for you!
[07:33] <dho_ragus> aldaek: get a hard drive that isn't broken
[07:33] <bethany> my brother put linux on my computer I'm gonna kill him
[07:33] <dho_ragus> bethany: LOL
[07:33] <aldaek> thats not the drive im planning on putting it on anyways
[07:33] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, in nvmware you wont be able to use the real XP, you know that right?
[07:33] <aldaek> that entire drive is windows
[07:33] <Nick_Fornarotto> is anyone using the Linksys WPC54G card?
[07:34] <bethany> I guess if I come in here enough I learn how to use this thing
[07:34] <faileas> hmm
[07:34] <faileas> nope
[07:34] <meoblast001> TheimonBeer: you cant... what VM lets you do that?
[07:34] <dho_ragus> aldaek: you could switch to another console and kill whatever process it is that's checking the disk.
[07:34] <dho_ragus> aldaek: that's just a hack though, not sure if it'd work.
[07:34] <hammedhaaret> Lappy:  its a laptop S:
[07:34] <TheimonBeer> meoblast001, VMware lets you create a system from scratch
[07:34] <TheimonBeer> it uses its own fileformat
[07:34] <meoblast001> "cancle
[07:34] <faileas> naw
[07:34] <meoblast001> "cancel"
[07:34] <palintheus> meoblast001: VM is a virtual OS, it will not be your real OS, I am not sure you can run both simultaneously
[07:35] <Lappy> hammedhaaret, ouch! are you sure all its hardware is compatbile with ubuntu?
[07:35] <aldaek> wouldnt i need that if i was to partition the newer drive for linux?
[07:35] <TheimonBeer> you can't use an existing Xp installation, because it cant mount that partition and secondly, it cant read in on it
[07:35] <meoblast001> i want to be able to run my current XP what do i do?
[07:35] <faileas> it uses sparse disk images. you can raw mount as well, riskily.
[07:35] <dho_ragus> palintheus: with vmware you can boot up a native windows install from linux.
[07:35] <meoblast001> what
[07:35] <TheimonBeer> you cant run XP and Ubuntu at the same time on the same computer
[07:35] <meoblast001> i jsut canceld
[07:35] <dho_ragus> TheimonBeer: yes you can.
[07:35] <xtknight> yes you can
[07:35] <palintheus> dho_ragus: he wants to use his current install inside ubuntu, not a VM
[07:35] <tim167> there are all there extra inputdevice entries in xorg.conf for 'wacom' but i dont have any 'wacom'
[07:35] <dho_ragus> palintheus: yeah, you can do that.
[07:35] <aldaek> you can dual boot, but not run simultaneously
[07:35] <xtknight> absolutely
[07:36] <xtknight> virtualization
[07:36] <dho_ragus> aldaek: you can do both simultaneously.
[07:36] <notstudent> xtknight: find *.pdf  | awk '{print $1 "  " $1".txt"}' | xargs ps2ascii           --this only executes for one .pdf file..  see anything wrong here?
[07:36] <TheimonBeer> dho_ragus, 1 has to be virtual
[07:36] <dho_ragus> http://www.kvaes.be/unix-linux/running-your-dual-boot-windows-inside-vmware-server-within-ubuntu/
[07:36] <aldaek> through virutualization, not both natively
[07:36] <xtknight> notstudent, sorry i dont know awk.  you can try #linux or #bash for considerably more help than i can give on this subject
[07:36] <hammedhaaret> lappy: no... but i certanly hope it is... maaaan if it is not. that'll just make my day.  thx for the help
[07:36] <dho_ragus> aldaek: well, yeah, one has to run as the host, but you can boot a native install as a virtualized OS
[07:36] <meoblast001> i want to take my Windows XP.... virtualize it.... then run it in Ubuntu
[07:36] <xtknight> both natively with intel VT chips prolly  :P
[07:36] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: you can do that.
[07:37] <Lappy> hammedhaaret, what is your laptop?
[07:37] <meoblast001> but i only have XP preinstalled
[07:37] <meoblast001> no disk
[07:37] <aldaek> meaning not through simulated hardware
[07:37] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[07:37] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: worst case scenario you could just use p2v
[07:37] <notstudent> xtknight: I was missing the -l1 switch... why did that fix it?
[07:37] <xtknight> notstudent, oh.  one line per execution
[07:37] <ahmadsaifan> Can someone provide me a link for the best Mac Icon pack?
[07:38] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: my old repo had a corrupted package... but i have a fresh Ubuntu install and a new repo
[07:38] <dho_ragus> ahmadsaifan: iconfactory.com
[07:38] <xtknight> notstudent, so fidn * prints out pages and pages.  without -l1 you're just using the first line in awk because awk cant do multiple lines at once (i guess).  with -l1 you're sending *each* to awk
[07:38] <bethany> is xchat supposed to show everyones ip address lol
[07:38] <palintheus> !best | ahmadsaifan
[07:38] <xtknight> yea
[07:38] <notstudent> xtknight: ahhh =)  thanks soooo much
[07:38] <hammedhaaret> Lappy: what it is? ...like hardware specs?
[07:38] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[07:38] <laptop> Hello
[07:38] <dho_ragus> laptop!  i thought you were stolen!
[07:38] <Lappy> hammedhaaret, or like brand + make.
[07:38] <tim167> i feel like i've asked this dozens of times before but...once again: can anyone help me get my video card working ?
[07:39] <palintheus> !ask | tim167
[07:39] <ubotu> tim167: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:39] <ahmadsaifan> OK, well can you give me something that you think is good?
[07:39] <aldaek> s/laptop/notebook ... everyone's switching due to the mistake of a guy who burned his leg....
[07:39] <dho_ragus> tim167: your video card?  care to be more specific?
[07:39] <tim167> dho_ragus, well i have been, but it scrolled way upwards in this channel already...
[07:40] <hammedhaaret> Lappy,  it's a zepto... a danish brand.  but i got another of the brand and it works like a charm with ubuntu
[07:40] <dho_ragus> tim167: i just meant like "can somebody help me with my nvidia 6xxx gtx" or whatever
[07:40] <tim167> dho_ragus, i get this now: error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[07:40] <tim167> dho_ragus GeForge 6600 i believe
[07:40] <mosno> what's the deal with 127.0.1.1 on Feisty? There's no such network interface yet I'm getting ping replies from it?
[07:41] <dho_ragus> tim167: wow, that's a crazy error.  i don't even have a /usr/lib/xserver dir
[07:41] <ahmadsaifan> How i search on Iconn Factory for Icons, not software
[07:41] <ahmadsaifan> Are the icons free?
[07:41] <tim167> dho_ragus i went thru the whole dpkg-reconfigure thing several times, tried editing xorg.conf, tried Xorg -configure, ...
[07:41] <bethany> how do I get windows media player working on linux ?
[07:41] <jkimball4> I deleted the contents of /var/cache/apt/ How can I regenerate it?
[07:42] <Lappy> hammedhaaret, then i'm not sure.. try running ur laptop through a compatibility check
[07:42] <ahmadsaifan> Can someone give me links to sites similar to Gnome-look???????
[07:42] <xtknight> jkimball4, what do you mean?
[07:42] <xtknight> jkimball4, "sudo apt-get update" i think
[07:42] <palintheus> ahmadsaifan: use google, search for ubuntu icons, and similar
[07:42] <ahmadsaifan> ok
[07:42] <jkimball4> xtknight: No, it errors that the files are missing.
[07:42] <xtknight> jkimball4, if that fails, "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:42] <dho_ragus> bethany: why do you need windos media player?  there are many many better alternatives.  VLC is great.
[07:42] <ahmadsaifan> but you guys have a command thing like !eye candy
[07:42] <ahmadsaifan> that gives me link
[07:42] <ahmadsaifan> s
[07:43] <bethany> I have vlc :)
[07:43] <Pici> !themes | ahmadsaifan
[07:43] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[07:43] <bethany> it's just ugly
[07:43] <thedrs> hi xtknight - managed to install the compiz aglx :)
[07:43] <ahmadsaifan> yea, thanks
[07:43] <dho_ragus> bethany: yeah... it isn't all that sexy.  then again, a lot of linux isn't all that sexy.
[07:43] <xtknight> thedrs, awesome
[07:43] <thedrs> anyone know about this problem :
[07:44] <bethany> yeah amarok is sexy looking though with funky monkey
[07:44] <genefitz> Linux isn't made to be as sexy, but is is far more productive, IMO
[07:44] <tim167> how come that when i install from zero ubuntu can find the right settings for my videocard, and not if i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? what's the difference ?
[07:44] <thedrs> i am using ubuntu 7.04 and for some strange reason after i installed the 1-0.5.2 compiz-core package the update manager always insists to update that package to the same version
[07:44] <lksadjfkl> Hi folks, I can't seem to get a definitive answer via google... is the Dell Wireless 1505 n card supported in ubuntu/linux?
[07:44] <mosno> Also, is anyone else getting a strange lag time on startup of new programs? I'm on Feisty, it's almost like there's some kind of DNS timeout before the app kicks in.
[07:44] <mosno> ie. the HDD or proc aren't working that hard
[07:44] <lksadjfkl> The intel card would cause a 3 week delay in my order, and I'm not a patient man ;-)
[07:45] <bethany> how do I hack with linux
[07:45] <dho_ragus> bethany: `apropos hack`
[07:45] <bethany> ?
[07:46] <kalopedi> Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 witch architecture i need to take?
[07:46] <GNine> am gettin a laggy issue as well   :-/
[07:47] <xtknight> kalopedi, i386
[07:47] <lksadjfkl> You can't do x64 with intel chips?
[07:47] <bethany> I'm surprised I thought this computer would be harder to use ^_^
[07:47] <faileas> you can with a c2d actually
[07:47] <kalopedi> xtknight: hm i want to install ubuntu on ACER ASPIRE 5633WLMI T5500 2048MB 120GB VGA NVIDIA 7300
[07:47] <xtknight> not with that Core 2 duo, i believe
[07:47] <tim167> does "Error opening /dev/wacom : Succes, could not init font path element" say anything to anyone ?
[07:48] <bethany> I guess I'm just a natural geek
[07:48] <xtknight> i have a core 2 duo E series, this supports 64
[07:48] <genefitz> lksadjfkl: I believe you can use 86-46 on EM64T chips
[07:48] <xtknight> T series i think does not
[07:48] <Pici> tim167: Its not an issue, unless you're trying to get a wacom tablet to worjk
[07:48] <xtknight> it's a mobile
[07:48] <GNine> am gettin alot of issues.. at least internet and essential apps are still apparently operational.. when i first installed ubuntu everything was fine.. a lil tinkering and boom.. issues
[07:48] <xtknight> kalopedi, i386 will definitely work.  amd64 might if you're lucky
[07:48] <lksadjfkl> Wikipedia says it'll support 64 bit... but nothing wrong with going x86 anyways
[07:49] <xtknight> yeah depends highly on chip model
[07:49] <genefitz> Personally, I try to stick with x86. I had a lot of issues with the x64 versions. but that was just my computer. Others swear by ti
[07:49] <genefitz> it even
[07:49] <bethany> GNine what's wrong ?
[07:49] <kalopedi> xtknight: so i will stay with x386. thanks. And i have a hope to make all hardware working.
[07:49] <tim167> Pici ok, but X wont start, the next line says, "waiting for x server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing" then i get terminal again
[07:50] <genefitz> kalopedi, well, if you have any issues, I am sure some of us will be able to help you out
[07:51] <GNine> i cant even burn iso discs.. my cd drive goest thru the motions and when i check it .. there is nothing in it... thats one
[07:51] <kalopedi> genefitz: thanks but it will be i one week :) so i will back  :).
[07:51] <bethany> have you tried k3b
[07:52] <GNine> i ran the embedded burn to cd app in feisty
[07:53] <bethany> Ive only used k3b try it :)
[07:53] <lksadjfkl> Anybody using any dell wifi cards with linux?
[07:53] <dho_ragus> lksadjfkl: i am
[07:53] <GNine> does it come in synatic
[07:54] <bethany> just do sudo apt-get install k3b
[07:54] <Saxis> anyone install feisty from a usb stick?
[07:54] <bethany> enable universe and multiuniverse repositorys for mp3 support
[07:54] <Seveas> lksadjfkl, there is no such thing as a 'dell wifi card'
[07:55] <bethany> think that mp3 package is k3b-mp3
[07:55] <Seveas> dell uses intel, atheros, broadcom etc...
[07:55] <GNine> nah.. i am matter-of-factly switchng to ogg as we speak
[07:55] <punchmonkey> Woops, 'scuse the nick.
[07:56] <bethany> why not use both
[07:56] <punchmonkey> seveas: I didn't realize they changed chipsets so much
[07:56] <bethany> most music downloads are mp3
[07:56] <Seveas> punchmonkey, they use different chips in different models :)
[07:56] <Saxis> i have a laptop booting from my usb stick, but when i try to "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom" it says device not found
[07:56] <Seveas> like pretty much every computer builder
[07:56] <punchmonkey> seveas: thanks
[07:56] <genefitz> GNine, I use both .ogg and .mp3 As a matter of fact, I don't know if you can load .ogg on iPod..
[07:56] <punchmonkey> seveas: back to google then to see if I can find out.
[07:57] <finalbeta> you can't
[07:57] <genefitz> And for me, I have to be able to move stuff back and forth
[07:57] <dho_ragus> punchmonkey: you can find out by doing `lspci` at a terminal
[07:57] <bethany> ipod lol get a cowan iaudio they come linux ready and have linux software
[07:57] <Seveas> punchmonkey, the dells I've seen use intel and iirc broadcom
[07:57] <pbugni> how can i tell which version of (in this example java) i would be getting via apt-get?  `apt-cache search java` doesn't reveal version info.  i want 1.4.* not 1.5.*
[07:57] <GNine> i dont have an ipod.. i was thinking in could convert and burn to mp3 from ogg instead
[07:57] <Seveas> pbugni, 1.4 is no longer supported/available
[07:57] <Gary> genefitz, no, ogg will not work on a normal ipod
[07:57] <Ben_Cs> i installed wine-doors, and throught there - win media player, but there are no icons created nowhere. how do i find where is it installed?
[07:58] <genefitz> bethany, easy to say after I have already dumped $300+ on my 80 gig iPod...lol
[07:58] <pbugni> thanks Seveas - i'll grab the src.  is there a way to get this info in general?  (version of a package w/o installing it?)
[07:58] <bethany> lol I feel your pain gene
[07:58] <Seveas> pbugni, apt-cache show packagename_here or apt-cache policy packagename_here
[07:59] <Seveas> pbugni, or go to http://packages.ubuntu.com :)
[07:59] <GNine> well.. i would just read the box and whatever player that tells me its compatible with ogg .. i buy
[07:59] <bethany> I just like things that are compatible my brother put this os on my laptop because xp crashed
[07:59] <genefitz> bethany, no to menion, my car stereo has an iPod controller on it. Not that I am too lazy to change songs on my own, but....  well, that's just the point, I am too lazy...lol
[07:59] <Fub> does anybody have any idea why xmms crashes with a bus error on my box?
[08:00] <bethany> well cowans are compatible with a lot of formats
[08:00] <bethany> mp3 ogg flac wma
[08:00] <bethany> video files too
[08:00] <Seveas> Fub, xmms is unmaintained, you might want to switch to bmpx or audacious (modern versions of it)
[08:01] <genefitz> bethany, well, it seems that it is working out well for you.
[08:01] <bethany> lol
[08:01] <Fub> Seveas, ah thanks
[08:01] <bethany> well I like my ipod killer :)
[08:01] <genefitz> lol
[08:01] <Seveas> bethany, a hammer?
[08:01] <Seveas> :)
[08:01] <bethany> no a cowan but a hammer will do
[08:02] <Saxis> any ideas why my usb stick clearly shows sdb1 in dmesg but says No such device when mounting?
[08:02] <Spark> i have a problem with the fonts in dot, http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~dc04/file.png
[08:02] <genefitz> It is hard for me to find any portable players that can keep up with me. I have like 5 gigs free on my iPod.
[08:02] <Seveas> Saxis, because udev renames it ?
[08:02] <genefitz> There aren't many players that have that much of a hard drive
[08:02] <bethany> my cowan is 60 gigs
[08:02] <Seveas> Saxis, ls /dev | grep sd
[08:02] <Spark> no matter what font i tell it to use, i seem to get dot: fontname "Arial" resolved to "[internal arial] "
[08:03] <genefitz> That's cool bethany. I may check it out..
[08:03] <Spark> judging from strace, it uses libfreetype
[08:03] <Spark> but is not statically linked to libfreetype
[08:03] <Spark> a bit weird
[08:03] <Spark> how can i test further?
[08:03] <bethany> there like 300 but they have a lot of memory and linux support
[08:03] <bethany> that's rare
[08:04] <mikebot> Is there a virtual drive program for ubuntu so I can run image files?
[08:04] <Seveas> mikebot, iso files can be simply mounted, other file formats can be converted to iso
[08:04] <Seveas> !iso
[08:04] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:05] <mikebot> Seveas: How can I convert an .img to an .iso?
[08:05] <mikebot> Seveas: And how do I mount an iso?
[08:05] <Seveas> mikebot, see the info ubotu gave
[08:05] <Saxis> I'm running the installer from usb stick on a fujitsu with no cd-rom, don't think sdb1 is being renamed
[08:05] <mikebot> Seveas: Ah, thanks.
[08:05] <genefitz> bethany, I just checked it at amazon. pretty cool.
[08:05] <GNine> mount -o loop -t iso9660 $1 /mnt/iso     some say that would mount an iso image..  but u have to be root
[08:05] <mikebot> Seveas: What is a mountpoint?
[08:05] <sahil> hey anyone know where i can get a copy of americas army for linux?
[08:06] <Seveas> mikebot, an empty directory where you want to see the files that are on the .iso
[08:06] <erUSUL> sahil: in their website
[08:06] <bethany> yeah they have a website to I think most of there hardware or all is linux compatible
[08:06] <mikebot> Seveas: OK, thanks.
[08:06] <sahil> erUSUL the website doesnt have the Linux version, or maybe i'm blind. Can you gimme a link?
[08:08] <genefitz> sahil, try here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AmericasArmy
[08:08] <PriceChild> sahil, they don't make it for linux anymore
[08:08] <westly> openoffice cannot open ms office 2007 docu , hel
[08:08] <westly> help
[08:09] <sahil> PriceChild, i know but i will use the old version 2.5
[08:09] <sahil> its a sick game
[08:09] <aldin> anyone knows how is tha name of linux mint channel, thanks
[08:09] <mikebot> Seveas: I did this: sudo mount -o loop house2.iso /
[08:09] <mikebot> Seveas: And I can't find it now...
[08:09] <Seveas> mikebot, that's a terrible idea
[08:09] <alexenderreez> anyone can use fusion-icon lately?
[08:09] <mikebot> Seveas: haha oops
[08:09] <mikebot> Seveas: What do I do now?
[08:09] <PriceChild> aldin, #linuxmint
[08:09] <genefitz> sahil: I know there is a version that is available with Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers edition, But I am not sure for the standard repos
[08:09] <iCEifer> anyone know why I get a high pitched sound from my speakers anytime anything uses the sound card and only the right speaker works?
[08:10] <Seveas> mikebot, try sudo umount house2.iso
[08:10] <aldin> PriceChild: thanks, i wanna ask them for their gtk theme hehe
[08:10] <westly> anyone knows how to open office 2007 docu with openoffice?
[08:10] <ahmadsaifan> how can i change the menu bar's icon?
[08:10] <Seveas> mikebot, if that says it can't find sudo, you'll need to reset your computer with the power button
[08:10] <rausb0> mikebot: you just hid your whole filesystem
[08:10] <mikebot> Seveas: Says device is busy
[08:10] <GNine> that wasnt the whole command line.. either
[08:10] <genefitz> westly: I don't think there is a 2007 cross-platform yet in openoffice..
[08:10] <mikebot> rausb0: crap.
[08:10] <erUSUL> sahil: google >>> http://americasarmy.filefront.com/file/AASF_Direct_Action_v25_Linux_Full_Install;49654
[08:10] <rausb0> mikebot: just reboot
[08:10] <bethany> This room is boring someone teach me something
[08:11] <Seveas> mikebot, does the sync command work?
[08:11] <mikebot> Seveas: How do I do that?
[08:11] <rausb0> mikebot: and learn some basics about mounting
[08:11] <Seveas> mikebot, in a terminal, just type sync
[08:11] <c0ldfus10n> bethany: what would you like to be taught?
[08:11] <ahmadsaifan> How can i change the menu bar's icon with another?
[08:11] <mikebot> Seveas: I typed it but it didn't say anything.
[08:11] <Seveas> mikebot, that's good news actually
[08:11] <mikebot> Seveas: ah good
[08:11] <westly> genefitz: thanks. ms is a toy operating system!
[08:11] <genefitz> Bethany, what would you like to learn? :::Gets fly-fishing websites up and mocro-repair documentation out:::
[08:11] <bethany> can I use rsync and ssh to send files to my server from another computer
[08:11] <Seveas> mikebot, I don't know how much your system disliked that action of yours so I suggest rebooting
[08:12] <Spark> damn i can't find any documentation for freetype
[08:12] <Spark> where do programs know where to find the font files
[08:12] <mikebot> Seveas: OK, can I mount to desktop/?
[08:12] <ahmadsaifan> #ubuntu-effects
[08:12] <Seveas> and mount things in *empty* folders next time :)
[08:12] <Spark> i'm not sure whether freetype does the searching or not
[08:12] <bethany> not the one i'm on but another remote pc to the remote server
[08:12] <Fub> Seveas, do you know of any lightweight gui music players bmpx... is a bit too much:)
[08:12] <Seveas> mikebot, make an empty folder on the desktop and mount in there
[08:12] <ahmadsaifan> How can i change the Menu button icon with another?
[08:12] <rausb0> mikebot: you better make a directory like /mnt/loop and mount it there
[08:12] <aldin> PriceChild: it is empty channel though
[08:13] <Seveas> Fub, I liked the old beep-media-player
[08:13] <bethany> !rsync | bethany
[08:13] <Seveas> don't know if it's still being maintained
[08:13] <coldfusion> bethany: http://www.suso.org/docs/shell/ssh.sdf
[08:13] <bethany> that thing is broken
[08:13] <ahmadsaifan> How can i change the Menu button icon with another?
[08:13] <PriceChild> aldin, I know.
[08:13] <ahmadsaifan> How can i change the Menu button icon with another?
[08:13] <GNine> ubuntu is playing with me .. yesterday i was getting this wierd system lag and today its not doing it..
[08:13] <Seveas> Fub, but it's basically xmms-using-gtk2
[08:13] <mikebot> Seveas: rausb0 thanks
[08:13] <Seveas> !repeat | ahmadsaifan
[08:13] <ubotu> ahmadsaifan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:13] <ahmadsaifan> :(
[08:14] <aldin> PriceChild: i found somethjing here The server is irc.spotchat.org<font size="3"> (standard port 6667) and the channel name: #linuxmint.com</font>
[08:14] <aldin> <font size="3">going to try</font>
[08:14] <alexenderreez> ahmadsaifan:if you want to ask that kind of support question..it is better in ubuntu forum..so everybody can get benefit..
[08:14] <Fub> Seveas, thanks, I'll give that a go
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> i dont have time for that
[08:14] <Seveas> unf, does gaim put html in irc now?
[08:14] <ahmadsaifan> lol
[08:14] <Master_Kale> does anyone here have any experience compiling PHP5 on Ubuntu?
[08:15] <mikebot> Seveas: Basically I have a DVD image, and I want it to open up like it will in a DVD player... It will do that if I mount it, right?
[08:15] <Seveas> Master_Kale, why do you want to compile it?
[08:15] <PriceChild> Seveas, i think that was copied from a webpage
[08:15] <peeps_work> can anyone here recommend a good database management tool that supports JDBC?
[08:15] <Seveas> PriceChild, including the "going to try that"?
[08:15] <Master_Kale> Seveas, the apt-get version uses the non-native GD library
[08:15] <alexenderreez> amadsaifan:you need time to learn...that is how linux use to be...
[08:15] <Seveas> mikebot, no
[08:15] <Seveas> mikebot, mplayer can directly play that dvd image iirc
[08:15] <genefitz> alexenderreez is right, if you are having a problem, you are most likely not the only person experiencing that problem..
[08:15] <Master_Kale> I need support for the other functions included in the PHP-compiled GD library
[08:15] <mikebot> Seveas: How can I do that?
[08:15] <mikebot> Seveas: Oh.. can it play img too?
[08:15] <genefitz> By asking the question no one else does, you may help more than just yourself
[08:16] <Seveas> Master_Kale, then grab the source package, adjust the configure options in debian/rules and rebuild the package
[08:16] <Seveas> that's the easiest way
[08:16] <Seveas> !compiling | Master_Kale more info:
[08:16] <ubotu> Master_Kale more info:: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:16] <GNine> ok.. k3b installed.. lets c how good can this get
[08:16] <Hausberg> My edgy does not automount usb medias anymore!?!
[08:16] <mikebot> Seveas: And what does this mean: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[08:17] <Master_Kale> Seveas, thanks for the guide! I'll give it a god and see if everything works out
[08:17] <Seveas> mikebot, try mplayer -vo xv bla.img
[08:17] <Seveas> mikebot, are you using compiz/beryl like things?
[08:17] <mikebot> Seveas: I don't know what that means.
[08:17] <Seveas> mikebot, ok :)
[08:17] <bman> hi
[08:18] <konam> hi, i have a question about brasero. can someone help me?
[08:18] <Seveas> !anyone | konam
[08:18] <ubotu> konam: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:18] <genefitz> konam, I am not an expert, but maybe I can help you
[08:19] <bman> ?
[08:19] <bethany> thanks cold
[08:19] <coldfusion> bethany - y/w
[08:19] <GNine> soundconverter is talking its time to read 3gigs of tags
[08:19] <mikebot> Seveas: Thanks for your help
[08:19] <GNine> heheh
[08:19] <Seveas> GNine, lol!
[08:19] <mikebot> Seveas: When I open nit like that, is there a way to go to the ttle menu and so on?
[08:19] <mikebot> Like controls?
[08:19] <Seveas> mikebot, not with mplayer
[08:20] <mikebot> Seveas: OK, thanks.
[08:20] <Seveas> gmplayer can do that iirc (not sure, don't play dvds that much)
[08:20] <Seveas> gmplayer -vo x11 bla.img
[08:20] <Seveas> mikebot, vlc might also work
[08:20] <bman> how can i see all users ?
[08:20] <Seveas> bman, all users where?
[08:20] <mikebot> Seveas: OK, I'll try that.. thanks.
[08:21] <bman> here
[08:21] <bman> on this chat room
[08:21] <Seveas> bman, /names
[08:21] <konam> genefitz well, when you're going to burn a DVD it have the option to be more compatible with windows depending of what you choose the names of the files on the disc are shortned. the thing is that i don't know if that happens when you enable that option or left it disable (default)
[08:21] <Seveas> bman, beware, there are 1149 users :)
[08:21] <bman> tnx
[08:21] <coldfusion> bethany, have you tried the scp yet?
[08:21] <oasys> buenas tarde
[08:21] <assarix> hi, I just installed firestarter and started it with gksudo but I can't add rules to the policy, the buttons are disabled
[08:21] <GNine> but seriusly.. how come ubuntu got my internet connection right the first time and now i cant connect to other puters on my local network
[08:22] <bethany> scp ?
[08:22] <coldfusion> that's how you transfer files with ssh
[08:22] <genefitz> kinam, I would try it both ways, see what you get. Worst case, you lose a 15 cent disk.
[08:22] <coldfusion> it's in the website I sent you.
[08:22] <genefitz> konam even, sorry for the misspell
[08:23] <bethany> I use sudo rsync -avz -e ssh
[08:23] <GNine> got samba .. it just dont wanna find my local network buddies
[08:23] <wolferine> what can you use to convert PAL to NTSC?
[08:23] <bethany> + computer name .
[08:23] <wolferine> right from a .vob
[08:23] <assarix> someone here runs firestarter on ubuntu?
[08:23] <coldfusion> I see.
[08:23] <disasm> wolferine: I think they make converter boxes
[08:23] <bethany> sudo rsync -avz -e ssh douche@72.32.12.12 . example
[08:24] <wolferine> disasm, nothing software based though?
[08:24] <disasm> bethany: why -e ssh?
[08:24] <GNine> i had firestarter.. it was buggin me out .. so now its gone
[08:24] <konam> genefitz it depends of the country ;)
[08:24] <coldfusion> douche? sounds clean...
[08:24] <assarix> GNine: do you use an other gui application to build firewall rules now?
[08:24] <kwdizzy87> hello?
[08:24] <GNine> i did think it was in part resposible for the laggy issue i had ..
[08:25] <disasm> wolferine: Well, I believe most software for LINUX support both PAL and NTSC, why do you need to convert it?
[08:25] <sayanriju> kwdizzy87: hello!
[08:25] <kwdizzy87> i just made the move to ubuntu and i like it so fr
[08:25] <binary-data> hey!
[08:25] <Seveas> wolferine, mencoder?
[08:25] <bethany> log in module or something
[08:25] <coldfusion> 1001010100111001001010100
[08:25] <Seveas> wolferine, or transcode?
[08:25] <GNine> i dont have any firewalls at the pc level
[08:25] <wolferine> disasm, its not the support I really am looking for, its a conversion tool I am seeking
[08:25] <bethany> I'm not that technical ^_^
[08:25] <wolferine> mencoder will do it?
[08:25] <kwdizzy87> how would i give my account root access or persissions
[08:25] <kwdizzy87> permissions*
[08:25] <GNine> i use a network firewall.. works fine
[08:25] <PriceChild> !sudo | kwdizzy87
[08:25] <ubotu> kwdizzy87: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:25] <coldfusion> kwdizzy87 - sudo or su
[08:25] <RiCCo69> what prog uninstall's .rar files in ubuntu?
[08:26] <kwdizzy87> how would i be able to do it without comand lining
[08:26] <disasm> bethany: I just do rsync -avz, defaults to using ssh if ssh is installed on both ends (and rsync installed on both ends)
[08:26] <PriceChild> RiCCo69, you can't "install" .rars in the first place.
[08:26] <RiCCo69> sory unpapck
[08:26] <binary-data> anyone have any experience with cedega?
[08:26] <coldfusion> good luck
[08:26] <Seveas> wolferine, the only media encoders I know are mencoder, ffmpeg and transcode. Don't know which one will do what you want (if any). Google is your friend if nobody knows more
[08:26] <wolferine> thanks Seveas
[08:26] <PriceChild> RiCCo69, unrar
[08:26] <muszek> hi... is there any way of finding out what's the system name for a given window?  i.e. I have a gnome-terminal running and would like to get that "gnome-terminal" string.  Is there any nice app to do it?  Maybe something similar to xkill?
[08:26] <wolferine> this is enough to look at
[08:26] <mikebot> Seveas: How can I convert a 7 GB DVD iso to a 4.3 GB one?
[08:27] <westly> how to safely remove a usb hard disk?
[08:27] <RiCCo69> thanx PriceChild
[08:27] <disasm> mikebot: movie?
[08:27] <assarix> it seems you need to have a hit in firestarter first
[08:27] <genefitz> mikebot, for movies ro data?
[08:27] <mikebot> movie
[08:27] <Seveas> mikebot mencoder transcode or ffmpeg (you need good google juice to find a manual)
[08:27] <GNine> usb hard disk? lol
[08:27] <assarix> and then add it from the events list
[08:27] <assarix> and then the buttons are enabled
[08:27] <assarix> that's a bug imho
[08:27] <disasm> mikebot: k9copy I think can read from an iso (i know it can write to one)
[08:27] <binary-data> just unmount it
[08:27] <mikebot> disasm: thanks.
[08:27] <westly> how to safely remove a USB hard disc like windows XP?
[08:28] <coldfusion> umount
[08:28] <coldfusion> !umount westly
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount westly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <coldfusion> !umount | westly
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <binary-data> westley: just right-click it and unmount
[08:28] <Seveas> westly, rightclick on it on the desktop and select eject/unmount
[08:28] <sayanriju> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[08:28] <sayanriju>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[08:28] <westly> thanks zillion
[08:28] <itguru> I got 30 minutes to build a quake three arena server - I've already got a virtual machine fired up in my VM bank - I just need to configure the baby - ALL HELP IS WELCOME :)
[08:28] <meoblast001> who uses safely remove anymore
[08:28] <genefitz> !usb
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Sumsar> Hello, i am a newbie ubuntu user. My recycle bin doesn't seem to work. If I delete files it is still empty, even if i drag files to it, the file disappears, but the bin i empty. Can anyone please help me?
[08:28] <westly> Unmount volume to be exact
[08:29] <pvl> does  wine cmd understand drives?
[08:29] <amshaffer> What's the best way to run windows within ubuntu?
[08:29] <coldfusion> westly, use mount to find out what you have mounted and then umount the appropriate device.
[08:29] <ftoo_on_gutsy> amshaffer via vmware server
[08:29] <pvl> amashaffer twin
[08:29] <pvl> *wine
[08:30] <amshaffer> okie dokie, thanks
[08:30] <slackfaceware> can i use lilo for kubuntu?
[08:30] <kidbuntu> !eyecandy
[08:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:30] <dho_ragus> itguru: w00t for q3!
[08:30] <pvl> does wine cmd understand drives?
[08:30] <bman> is there any video edit software like power director?
[08:30] <meoblast001> i tried powering on a new VM and i got the error "Unable to change virtual machine power state: The process exited with an error:
[08:30] <meoblast001> End of error message." how do i fix that?
[08:30] <bman> is there any video edit software like power director?
[08:30] <bman> is there any video edit software like power director?
[08:30] <Pici> !repeat | bman
[08:30] <ubotu> bman: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:31] <coldfusion> !patience | bman
[08:31] <ubotu> bman: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:31] <hyperactivecrond> is there a package available for python-beautifulsoup for python 2.5?
[08:31] <bman> is there any video edit software for ubuntu like power director ?
[08:31] <itguru> dho_ragus: Yeah, I in the office, and we're all a bit drunk (shift is done) and we got a 500 wager, on who will kick ass in Q3A
[08:31] <hyperactivecrond> bman: hint: don't repeat.
[08:31] <dho_ragus> bman: NO.
[08:31] <DFM> I need to know what mail server software can handle enterprise level mail and function like exchange with contact management and calander.
[08:31] <bman> k
[08:31] <bman> sorry
[08:31] <Pici> !info python2.5-beautifulsoup | hyperactivecrond
[08:31] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Package python2.5-beautifulsoup does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:32] <itguru> we just don't a quake 3 arena server :)
[08:32] <Pici> hyperactivecrond: Guess not, its in Gutsy though :/
[08:32] <hyperactivecrond> eh
[08:32] <hyperactivecrond> oh well
[08:32] <hyperactivecrond> i guess i'll have to wait for crummy.com to come back online
[08:32] <hyperactivecrond> b/c i _wanted_ to use it for sipie
[08:32] <meoblast001> how does one use a virtual machine after creating it?
[08:32] <muszek> how do I find a programs "system name" (i.e. "gnome-termina") or system path (i.e. /usr/bin/gnome-terminal ) of a window?
[08:33] <hyperactivecrond> muszek: @ a terminal: which <command>
[08:33] <sinka> witam
[08:33] <hyperactivecrond> replace <command> with your program in question
[08:33] <dho_ragus> muszek: `pstree` might be useful
[08:33] <coldfusion> !find | muszek
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <Pici> muszek: xprop or xwinifo might give you the information you seek as well.  If you just want to kill the application, use xkill.
[08:34] <muszek> hyperactivecrond: I "don't know" the "command".  All I have is an opened window.  For example Alt+F2 opens a "run command" window and I want to know it's name or path.
[08:34] <Sumsar> Hello, i am a newbie ubuntu user. My recycle bin doesn't seem to work. If I delete files it is still empty, even if i drag files to it, the file disappears, but the bin i empty. Can anyone please help me?
[08:34] <forest252525> can someone help me configure my wireless internet connexion on my computer, i have problem with diswrapper
[08:34] <Pici> muszek: Read what I posted above :)
[08:34] <muszek> Pici: xwininfo sounds like the solution, thanks
[08:34] <hyperactivecrond> forest: what wireless card
[08:35] <dho_ragus> muszek: not all windows are going to have a command associated with them.  for instance, i doubt the alt-f2 trick has a shell command associated with it.
[08:35] <binary-data> anyone know how to install a game (thru cedega) to a separate partition.... primary partition is small (OS+ 1gb) and secondary is 6.5 gb (for a few games(FAT32)) my problem is that when i navigate to /media/games ot says there isnt enough space
[08:35] <forest252525> broadcom bcm4306
[08:35] <wolferine> Sumsar, you have a ~/.Trash
[08:35] <ppires> hi there guys. any samba winbind man arround here? :-) having log-in dying on me when running winbindd
[08:35] <muszek> dho_ragus: thanks
[08:35] <Sumsar> wolferine a what?
[08:35] <hyperactivecrond> forest252525: what's the problem you're having
[08:35] <disasm> dho_ragus: alt-f2 is a different tty than in X, there is no command you can do to change terminals
[08:36] <PaulEU> hello!
[08:36] <wolferine> Sumsar, cd ~/.Trash;ls -la
[08:36] <wolferine> Sumsar, type in command line
[08:36] <pvl> does wine cmd understand to use a different path instead of floppy drive a?
[08:36] <PaulEU> where can I submit bug in gedit2 ?
[08:36] <disasm> pvl: you can set the config to any directory to be your "floppy drive"
[08:36] <wolferine> pvl, u can configure wine
[08:37] <pvl> pvl ima try that
[08:37] <PaulEU> when I unselected wrap lines - some very long lines has strange characters..
[08:37] <wolferine> PaulEU, can you recreate it?
[08:37] <Pici> muszek: It looks like its part of gnome-panel
[08:37] <Sumsar> wolferine no such file or directory
[08:37] <muszek> Pici: I noticed
[08:37] <westly> what player for real media file?
[08:38] <wolferine> Sumsar, do you have other users?
[08:38] <PaulEU> wolferine: Yes, I do create screenshot
[08:38] <PaulEU> momento
[08:38] <meoblast001> i powered on a virtual machine and got http://pastebin.ca/660012 now what
[08:38] <Sumsar> wolferine nope
[08:38] <wolferine> PaulEU, showing me it will do nothing
[08:38] <wolferine> Sumsar, ls -la in ~
[08:38] <Eglantine> Hi there ^^
[08:38] <wolferine> and see if you have a .Trash
[08:38] <Spark> is graphviz compiled with everything turned off in ubuntu?
[08:38] <Spark> it doesn't depend on anything
[08:38] <Spark> despite using fontconfig and stuff
[08:39] <PaulEU> wolferine: how can I show you ?
[08:39] <Sumsar> wolferine yes, i get a list, where i can see .trash
[08:39] <wolferine> PaulEU, i have nothing to do with gedit
[08:39] <wolferine> Sumsar, thats where your trash is then :)
[08:39] <nwidger> what steps would i need to take to request a package currectly in debian be synced in gutsy?
[08:39] <coldfusion> Sumsar.. now type cd .Trash
[08:39] <coldfusion> case sensitive
[08:40] <PaulEU> wolferine: who is interested with it? ;)
[08:40] <PaulEU> wolferine: is there any developer of ubuntu?
[08:40] <sinka> hi
[08:40] <Pici> nwidger: Is it in gutsy at all?
[08:40] <wolferine> PaulEU, the creators, which you can probably find in help
[08:40] <Sumsar> coldfusion yes... done
[08:40] <Pici> !bug | PaulEU
[08:40] <ubotu> PaulEU: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:40] <coldfusion> now ls -la
[08:40] <PaulEU> wolferine: ok, thx :)
[08:41] <sinka> hello
[08:41] <wolferine> PaulEU, my point was, once the error happened once, no point in submitting it, if you can recreate, then you might have something
[08:41] <PaulEU> wolferine: first I'll try contact with autors of gedit2
[08:41] <Sumsar> coldfusion it says drwx------  2
[08:41] <coldfusion> hehe
[08:41] <wolferine> PaulEU, if you can recreate, then they might want to hear from you
[08:41] <iHack> evening all
[08:42] <Sumsar> coldfusion and drwxr-xr-x 39
[08:42] <PaulEU> wolferine: I know
[08:42] <PaulEU> wolferine: thx for help
[08:42] <wolferine> PaulEU, also, you may want to run it from command line, which will offer some output
[08:42] <Thunderzzz> Question to the panel.  I just bought a 250gig usb ext drive.  Can I attach it to my corportate laptop and have ubuntu install itself to the removable drive and have an option to dual boot from windows to linux when its attached.
[08:42] <coldfusion> then there is nothing in your trash bin
[08:42] <PaulEU> wolferine: ok
[08:42] <meoblast001> any VMware users here????
[08:42] <wolferine> Thunderzzz, best advice, just replace windows :)
[08:42] <wolferine> !ask | meoblast001
[08:42] <ubotu> meoblast001: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:43] <Sumsar> coldfusion but where do my files go then, when i drag them to my trash they disappear
[08:43] <Thunderzzz> Wolf the company wouldnlt like that
[08:43] <meoblast001> wolferine: i did but i wasn't getting answers
[08:43] <wolferine> Thunderzzz, :)
[08:43] <wolferine> !patience | meoblast001
[08:43] <ubotu> meoblast001: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:43] <dyrne> Sumsar: ls ~/.Trash doesnt show em?
[08:43] <meoblast001> wolferine: its returns http://pastebin.ca/660012 everytime i try to start a VM
[08:43] <Sumsar> dyrne: nope, shows nothing
[08:44] <brunomoniz> hii people.... someone speak portuguese????
[08:44] <Pici> !br | brunomoniz
[08:44] <ubotu> brunomoniz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:44] <wolferine> meoblast001, and your setup is... ?
[08:44] <coldfusion> Sumsar, open your trash and click edit .. preferences.
[08:44] <wolferine> !po | brunomoniz
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <coldfusion> perhaps you have a setting to remove trash immediately?
[08:44] <meoblast001> wolferine: XP
[08:44] <wolferine> !pr | brunomoniz
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <wolferine> grr
[08:44] <Pici> wolferine: I already did it.
[08:44] <wolferine> whats your country code :/
[08:44] <meoblast001> wolferine: basic
[08:45] <wolferine> meoblast001, one line, whats your current software setup?
[08:45] <Sumsar> coldfusion: i check... but didn't change anything, and it worked fine yesterday
[08:45] <test34323> hello. i need some help whith Ubuntu. i am new to linux, and i cant get the wierless network to work.. it works in xp... kan somebody help me ? i am from norway so i dont whrite english that good
[08:45] <meoblast001> wolferine: for what
[08:45] <wolferine> br is portuges?
[08:45] <wolferine> didnt realize
[08:45] <meoblast001> wolferine: for the VM... it never asked yet
[08:45] <wolferine> !wireless | test34323
[08:45] <ubotu> test34323: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:45] <Pici> wolferine: br is brazil, where they speak portugeuese. pt is portugal
[08:45] <coldfusion> sumsar... then... i dunno
[08:45] <Lappy> !paste
[08:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:45] <wolferine> ah, thanks Pici :)
[08:46] <wolferine> meoblast001, im asking you
[08:46] <meoblast001> wolferine: preinstalled XP.... i was told i can connect to that with VM ware
[08:46] <test34323> ubotu : i have tryed to reed there, but i dont get it to work..
[08:46] <Sumsar> coldfusion but if I boot windows, then i can se a .trash on my windows partition, with my deleted files in... but i can't see that .trash directory in ubuntu
[08:46] <wolferine> meoblast001, preinstalled?
[08:46] <mannytu> I like pastebin
[08:46] <meoblast001> wolferine: sadly thats all i have
[08:47] <test34323> !wireless
[08:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:47] <wolferine> we do too mannytu
[08:47] <meoblast001> wolferine: came with the computer
[08:47] <wolferine> meoblast001, where did you get it?
[08:47] <sigger> I have a problwm with knoppix (knoppmyth specifically); I'm wondering if changing to ubuntu would fix this...  I have an old file server with 2 USB HDs attached.  When it boots it needs the USB HDs to be off otherwise it will not mount them (well).  It gives IO errors whenever I try to access the USB HDs.  If I boot PC with USB HDs off, everything's OK.  Would ubuntu do better?
[08:47] <meoblast001> wolferine: with the Dell im running
[08:47] <FuLio> Hi, can soneone help me. i have a "Failed to start the X sever"
[08:47] <wolferine> meoblast001, ah, so have you ran your VMware, working, yet?
[08:47] <coldfusion> sumsar, you mean you can see the .Trash folder from windows?
[08:47] <sayanriju> FuLio: more details
[08:48] <dho_ragus> sigger: are you sure the health on these disks is good?
[08:48] <meoblast001> wolferine: yes but its not asking me all the questions it should
[08:48] <Kimbie> When i boot in normal mode i just get a black screen, but i can boot in recovery mode then run x that way
[08:48] <meoblast001> wolferine: like where is Windows located
[08:48] <dho_ragus> sigger: have you tried booting an ubuntu livecd to see how it behaves?  that's the behavior you could expect if you were to install ubuntu to your hard disk.
[08:48] <wolferine> meoblast001, so it has worked?
[08:48] <sigger> dho_ragus: yes.
[08:48] <brunomoniz> ubotu... where u live???
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where u live??? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <meoblast001> wolferine: no
[08:48] <sigger> dho_ragus: ehhh.. good idea.
[08:48] <meoblast001> wolferine: the app launches
[08:48] <Sumsar> coldfusion: yes... in windows i can see a directory called .Trash with the files i have deleted in ubuntu.
[08:48] <forest252525> how can i load the ndiswrapper kernel module, iwconfig doesn't see my wireless card.
[08:48] <meoblast001> wolferine: but i cant figure it out
[08:48] <Lappy> http://pastebin.com/m7c54266a <-- can you please take a look at these errors, got them while doing apt-get update.
[08:48] <sigger> dho_ragus: well, would it automount the USB HDs?
[08:48] <wolferine> meoblast001, is the windows a 64 or 32 bit, as well as your system, 64 or 32?
[08:49] <coldfusion> Sumsar, what is the parent folder
[08:49] <dho_ragus> sigger: i'm willing to bet it would, i've done this with numerous usb hard disks and thumb drives and ipods and they work fine.
[08:49] <meoblast001> wolferine: i think 32 but im not sure
[08:49] <test34323> i have a Acer Travelmate 2490  ..
[08:49] <wolferine> meoblast001, for both?
[08:49] <Sumsar> coldfusion: it is on my windows D: drive...
[08:49] <meoblast001> wolferine: for both OS's??? idk
[08:49] <sigger> dho_ragus: meaning you've booted livecd and had it automount USB drives?
[08:50] <wolferine> meoblast001, the question had two parts, re-read it
[08:50] <ruben> Hello, my hard disk is too slow, only 3.84 MB/sec but I cannot set up dma, I see this error
[08:50] <ruben> hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda1
[08:50] <coldfusion> sumsar, so d:\... what
[08:50] <ruben> /dev/hda1: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Invalid argument using_dma     =  0 (off)
[08:50] <dho_ragus> sigger: no, ubuntu on the hard disk.
[08:50] <ruben> any idea how to fix it?
[08:50] <test34323> nowone that can help me ?
[08:50] <sigger> well worth a shot
[08:50] <dho_ragus> sigger: i've been using ubuntu for like... a year and a half maybe, and never had problems with it mounting usb disks.
[08:50] <meoblast001> wolferine: not sure about the system if it is or not
[08:50] <dho_ragus> sigger: but i have had problems with knoppix in the past, which is why i don't use it anymore. :P
[08:50] <seanpcrowe> hey peeps =)
[08:51] <Sumsar> coldfusion: just d:\
[08:51] <wolferine> meoblast001, is there a VM machine running now?
[08:51] <seanpcrowe> does anyone know if there is an app that can be used as a viewer to connect to realVNC servers?
[08:51] <sigger> dho_ragus: oh duh.  I should try it on the ubuntu lappy I have at home.
[08:51] <dho_ragus> FuLio: have you tried `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` ?
[08:51] <wolferine> seanj, vncviewer?
[08:51] <Lappy> alright fixed the duplicates stuff.
[08:51] <test34323> Nobody ?????
[08:51] <FuLio> dho_ragus; yse i have
[08:51] <sigger> hehe, thanks dude
[08:51] <meoblast001> wolferine: no when i try to launch one i get http://pastebin.ca/660012
[08:51] <wolferine> seanpcrowe, I meant
[08:51] <coldfusion> sumsar: so you are saying that there is a .Trash in your d:\ directory
[08:51] <nwidger> Pici: yes, but debian has a new version.
[08:51] <Sumsar> coldfusion: yes...
[08:51] <dho_ragus> test34323: there are potentially many people who could help you if only they knew what your problem was.
[08:51] <wolferine> meoblast001, where did you install VMware from?
[08:51] <FuLio> dho_ragu; i also installed the lastest driver, from envy.
[08:52] <Sumsar> Coldfusion: but i can only see if i boot windows
[08:52] <Lappy> http://pastebin.com/mf283c89 <-- these are the errors left... could I get some help on these? (gotten them using apt-get update, as root)
[08:52] <FuLio> dho_ragus;nvidia
[08:52] <brunomoniz> people... bye... i've go...
[08:52] <meoblast001> wolferine: the Ubuntu repos
[08:52] <Pici> nwidger: Ask about how to log the syncing bug in #ubuntu-motu
[08:52] <seanpcrowe> vncviewer wolferine yeah...
[08:52] <coldfusion> sumsar in ubuntu, type find / -name ".Trash"
[08:52] <wolferine> meoblast001, can you install other OSes on VMware?
[08:52] <nwidger> Pici: well it's not exactly a bug is it?
[08:52] <meoblast001> wolferine: no... its not even asking me questions to where the OS is located... it just asks what type
[08:52] <wolferine> meoblast001, have you read any VMware documentation or googled your error?
[08:52] <Pici> nwidger: Sync requests get logged as bugs.
[08:53] <nwidger> Pici: ah okay.  thanks :)
[08:53] <wolferine> meoblast001, it should be booting off the windows CD, so it would not ask you where
[08:53] <coldfusion> sumsar it may take a minute to complete
[08:53] <meoblast001> wolferine: i googled it and i can never find what im looking for in docs
[08:53] <Sumsar> coldfusion: searching.. .but get a lot of permission denied
[08:53] <forest252525> how can i load the ndiswrapper kernel module, iwconfig doesn't see my wireless card.
[08:53] <test34323> the problem is : i cant connect to the wierless whit ubuntu... it works in XP.. i have a Acer Travelmate 2490.. i am all new to linux, so i realy need help.. i am not that good in english
[08:54] <wolferine> meoblast001, you should read some VMware documentation on how to setup the OS
[08:54] <meoblast001> wolferine: i was told some p2v or something can do what i need to in wort casonario
[08:54] <coldfusion> sorry - cntl-c and then sudo find / -name ".Trash"
[08:54] <wolferine> p2v?
[08:54] <mannytu> test34323: Did you try here? #wireless
[08:54] <wolferine> !p2v
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p2v - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: p2v takes a physical machine and turns it into a virtual machine.
[08:54] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: it's a vmware tool.
[08:54] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: is that what im looking for
[08:54] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: i dont know.  is it?
[08:54] <wolferine> thanks dho_ragus
[08:55] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: im trying to turn preinstalled OS into something usable by VMWare
[08:55] <wolferine> meoblast001, your not setting up the OS properly if your thinking you need to point to a location for it
[08:55] <wolferine> well, if your waiting for VMare to prompt you for a location, i mean
[08:55] <meoblast001> wolferine: that is true... but im trying to not install but use an already existant one
[08:56] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: that would be one way to do it.
[08:58] <Sumsar> coldfusion: of course... hehe... but am a newbie :)
[08:58] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: what you could do is back up your OS partition first, just in case things fail.
[08:58] <wolferine> meoblast001, already existant VMware OS?
[08:58] <coldfusion> sumsar we all have to start somewhere.
[08:58] <wolferine> go nuts dho_ragus :)
[08:58] <mushroomja1> Hey, could I have someone help me with a problem in a private chat?
[08:58] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: well i backed up all my important stuff to my server last night... i think
[08:58] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: another way you could do it is image the disk with partimage, then make a clean VM and restore the image onto that vm.
[08:58] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: or you could do the boot native trick.
[08:58] <meoblast001> wolferine: thats not a complete question
[08:58] <benn92647> ok now that i have fiest fawn installed my desktop size is all screwed up LOL
[08:58] <coldfusion> mushroomja1 still don't have that fixed?
[08:58] <FuLio> Whats the Command to restart from the terminal????
[08:58] <Sumsar> coldfusion: yeah - would love to get rid of my windows partition .. but not until i know what i am doing..
[08:58] <mushroomja1> Cold, you'll be happy to hear I did!
[08:58] <m0dY> FuLio: reboot
[08:58] <benn92647> and i still need clear text can someone help me
[08:58] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: teach me the trick
[08:58] <mushroomja1> I found an awfully easy way around the problem.
[08:58] <coldfusion> mushroomja1 what was it
[08:58] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: i gave you a link to the tutorial earlier
[08:58] <mushroomja1> Add/remove programs.
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: did you get your flash issue resolved?
[08:58] <Ghismo> good evening guys
[08:58] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: when?
[08:58] <Sumsar> coldfusion: done now... it came up with /home/rasmus/.Trash
[08:58] <benn92647> YAY! Indy
[08:58] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: http://www.kvaes.be/unix-linux/running-your-dual-boot-windows-inside-vmware-server-within-ubuntu/
[08:58] <benn92647> nope i did a completely new install
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: ok.
[08:58] <benn92647> and now i am ready to go
[08:58] <coldfusion> sumsar type ls -la /home/rasmus/.Trash
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> good.
[08:58] <mushroomja1> But now a new problem. Installing Flash.
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> did you install feisty?
[08:58] <Ghismo> does it possible to use transparency on gome?
[08:58] <benn92647> no flash is installed at all
[08:58] <forest252525> how can i load the ndiswrapper kernel module
[08:58] <coldfusion> mushroomja1 so you reinstalled vlc
[08:58] <mushroomja1> Yep. : )
[08:58] <coldfusion> nive
[08:58] <coldfusion> *nice
[08:58] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: why not just install it?
[08:58] <Sumsar> coldfusion: empty...
[08:59] <benn92647> can you spend a few hours to get myflash installed LOL
[08:59] <mushroomja1> Best part is that it works.
[08:59] <IndyGunFreak> benn92647: lol, /join #indygunfreak
[08:59] <dho_ragus> meoblast001: here's another one for use with player instead of server:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=380699
[08:59] <Lappy> what does this error mean, and how can I fix it? --> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:59] <benn92647> thank god!
[08:59] <coldfusion> mushroomja1 you must have installed it from a root account
[08:59] <coldfusion> originally
[08:59] <Sumsar> coldfusion: can i search for Trash with a * somehow.... maybe it was called something like rasmustrash or something..
[08:59] <coldfusion> or sudo
[08:59] <test34323> its nobody that aswers in #wireless
[09:00] <dho_ragus> test34323: what did nobody say?
[09:00] <coldfusion> sumsar You can try *Trash* and it will turn up anything with "Trash" in it.
[09:00] <mushroomja1> Root, but in the mean time I'll be back in a bit.
[09:01] <Sumsar> coldfusion: yes it finds .Trash-rasmus on all my windows partitions...
[09:01] <coldfusion> sumsar remember everything is case sensitive
[09:01] <mannytu> test34323: all you can do is wait & read the web site...
[09:01] <coldfusion> ah... do sudo find / -name ".Trash-rasmus"
[09:01] <coldfusion> then ls- la the result
[09:01] <Ghismo> guys how i can set the transparency effect on gnome?
[09:01] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: how do you start VMware server over the command line?
[09:02] <praet> meoblast001: vmware-server
[09:02] <nodesert_> selam millet
[09:02] <pder> does anyone know if ubuntu can be installed on a computer?  i want to install ubuntu on a computer
[09:02] <coldfusion> pder - what kind of computer
[09:03] <pder> it is an IBM compatible personal computer sysytem
[09:03] <pder> *system
[09:03] <coldfusion> pder then probably
[09:03] <Sumsar> coldfusion: yes... there my files were..
[09:03] <coldfusion> the best thing to to is run a live CD and make sure everything works for you.
[09:04] <coldfusion> sumsar great...
[09:04] <meoblast001> dho_ragus: im still getting a process error should i reboot the computer and try again... i think Ubuntu is killing it
[09:04] <Sumsar> coldfusion: but how do i make my recycle bin function correct...
[09:04] <Sumsar> coldfusion: and why can't i see that directory in the GUI?
[09:05] <Pici> Sumsar: coldfusion , press ctrl-h to see hidden files in nautilus
[09:05] <coldfusion> sumsar, first you have to show hidden files in view
[09:05] <Sumsar> coldfusion: oh yeah.. now i can see...
[09:05] <coldfusion> now why your trash icon isn't working... I dunno.
[09:06] <dho_ragus> Sumsar: you can't see anything in the gui if it starts with a period
[09:06] <c1|freaky> how can i prevent packages from beeing installed if i installed other versions?
[09:06] <Norbert_Wiener> hello
[09:06] <Sumsar> dho_ragus: ok.. nice to know.
[09:06] <dho_ragus> Sumsar: and incidentally, you can't see it in terminal stuff either unless the tool supports long listing.  .files are hidden, basically.
[09:06] <coldfusion> dho_ragus you can if you show hidden files.
[09:06] <coldfusion> you can with ls -a
[09:06] <mannytu> Pici: Wow!
[09:06] <wolferine> hi Norbert_Wiener
[09:06] <Norbert_Wiener> someone know where synaptic install texlive-doc-<country> ?
[09:06] <dho_ragus> coldfusion: of course you can.  anything is possible.
[09:07] <coldfusion> DOH
[09:07] <Norbert_Wiener> i has install texlive-doc-it
[09:07] <Pelo> c1|freaky, there is an option in the synaptic menu to not update certain packages
[09:07] <virtuoussin13> is there a way to edit desktop settings (resolution, wallpaper, etc) from the command line?
[09:07] <dho_ragus> virtuoussin13: not an easy one.
[09:07] <Pici> !pinning | c1|freaky
[09:07] <ubotu> c1|freaky: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:07] <floppyears> hi guys
[09:07] <c1|freaky> thx D
[09:07] <c1|freaky> :D
[09:08] <wolferine> hey floppyears
[09:08] <dyrne> virtuoussin13: most of that is probably in ~/.gconf or some .g dir i guess
[09:08] <virtuoussin13> dho_ragus how hard are we talking?
[09:08] <Sumsar> if i drag a file to my trash icon in the bottom, the file is stored in a .trash directory on that HD the file originally was stored on, and is not display in the trash.
[09:08] <Pici> Sumsar: Yes, its a known issue.
[09:08] <floppyears> I have a motherboard with onboard vga, but I'm going to put a pci video card and use that card's vga, how do I go about disabling the onboard vga in ubuntu ? do I just do it through the bios ?
[09:08] <coldfusion> sumsar - ah there ya go
[09:08] <wolferine> Sumsar, when you double click the trash bin, you see nothing in it?
[09:08] <Sumsar> pici: what can i then do about it
[09:08] <coldfusion> thanks pici
[09:08] <Norbert_Wiener> ! texlive-doc-it
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about texlive-doc-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <Sumsar> wolferine: no nothing at all
[09:08] <Norbert_Wiener> ! texlive
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about texlive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <dho_ragus> floppyears: most new motherboards will automatically use pci/agp vid cards if they are installed.
[09:08] <coldfusion> or peachy... whatever =)
[09:08] <wolferine> Sumsar, see Picis response
[09:09] <dho_ragus> floppyears: you might have to select it int he BIOS though.
[09:09] <Pici> Sumsar: I dont know if anything can be done about it.
[09:09] <Sumsar> wolferine: only in the .trash dirs on the different HDs
[09:09] <floppyears> thanks dho_ragus
[09:09] <Sumsar> Pici: but it worked hours ago
[09:09] <wolferine> Sumsar, its a known issue
[09:09] <Pici> Sumsar: I've never seen it work properly.
[09:09] <phiqtion> should i install UBUNTU in a PRIMARY partition or LOGICAL?
[09:09] <Pelo> Norbert_Wiener, donT' put a space between the ! and the word, and please investigate ubotu in pm  /msg ubotu !trigger
[09:09] <seanpcrowe> lulz.... krdc acted as realvncviewer
[09:09] <Norbert_Wiener> a ok
[09:09] <seanpcrowe> awesome \o/
[09:09] <wolferine> phiqtion, just using ubuntu?
[09:09] <Norbert_Wiener> !texlive-doc-it
[09:09] <Pelo> phiqtion,  primary if you can
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about texlive-doc-it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <phiqtion> wolferine: with XP
[09:10] <coldfusion> Sumsar, screw the gui, just do it the easy way =)
[09:10] <Norbert_Wiener> tks
[09:10] <wolferine> phiqtion, then XP would be on your primary
[09:10] <virtuoussin13> okay, well that's kinda annoying
[09:10] <Pelo> !info livetext | Norbert_Wiener
[09:10] <phiqtion> wolferine: i can't make them both primary?
[09:10] <ubotu> norbert_wiener: Package livetext does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:10] <wolferine> phiqtion, are you looking to replace it?
[09:10] <Pelo> nvm
[09:10] <phiqtion> wolferine: no, dual boot
[09:10] <Sumsar> coldfusion: nah... don't think it is so easy... have to remember all those commands..
[09:10] <rbraley> I am having a large problem: I wanted to install ubuntu for my dad but he wanted raid. He has an Intel raid controller that handles the windows raid 0 stripe for the first two drives ( /dev/sda and /dev/sdb). I thought I had installed linux software raid stripe on /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd, but grub was wrongly installed to /dev/sda. Now my dad's windows wont boot and I need to recover his files.
[09:10] <coldfusion> sumsar exercise for the brain is a good thing.
[09:10] <wolferine> phiqtion, then you wont be able to create two primary partitions
[09:10] <virtuoussin13> well, perhaps someone can tell me why my audio likes to crackle/not work despite the fact I've recompile alsa using the  "--with-hda-intel" option?
[09:11] <rbraley> if this is the case would the only thing that is overwritten on /dev/sda be the mbr? or are the other stages written there too?
[09:11] <phiqtion> wolferine: thx
[09:11] <Pelo> !raid > rbraley  check your private message windows for a message from ubot3
[09:11] <virtuoussin13> and yes, I do have an hda intel sound card
[09:11] <dho_ragus> rbraley: that's a crummy situation to be in... =/
[09:11] <Sumsar> coldfusion: so u only use the terminal, with everything u do?
[09:12] <coldfusion> I use linux as a server - not a desktop system.
[09:12] <dho_ragus> rbraley: if you wrote directly to sda then the striping is messed up and it's not easy to find out what you have lost.
[09:12] <coldfusion> so ... yes.
[09:12] <dho_ragus> rbraley: mbr was probably over-written...
[09:12] <dutler> hi i need some help with host and domains.
[09:12] <dutler> i ubuntu7.04 server with postgresql, ant, tomcat and sun java. When i build my java app useing the host name my app is broken, but when i build for the ip address it works fine.
[09:12] <dutler> i realy need the host name rather than ip address. any ideas?
[09:12] <dutler> my /etc/hostname says: openbravo
[09:12] <dutler> my /etc/hosts says:
[09:12] <dutler> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost127.0.1.1       openbravo.cody.botwproductions.com      openbravo
[09:12] <dho_ragus> rbraley: if you isntalled linux on that disk, then probably a lot more stuff was overwritten.
[09:12] <Sumsar> coldfusion: so u don't have a desktop?
[09:12] <TJ__> Hey people how's it going.
[09:12] <kdub432> virtuoussin13: theres some option somewhere in your modules that you need to specify the model of your hda sound card, look it up on the forums :-D
[09:13] <rbraley> I think it may have only been grub
[09:13] <virtuoussin13> thanks
[09:13] <vlt> Hello. I just upgraded from Ubuntu Edgy (which was a fresh install with upstart) to Feisty using aptitude. Now the system only boots to runlevel "unknown". I always have to login and run `telinit 3` (sic!) to start all the daemons and the dm. `telinit 2` results in `runlevel` => "unknown", too. There's no /etc/inittab file and no "single" or similar argument in /proc/cmdline. What is wrong here? The daemons I want to be started are all listed in /etc/rc2.d/ too. 
[09:13] <coldfusion> sumsar - in essence, no.
[09:13] <urv> hi, does anyone know a good screenshot utility for X?
[09:13] <bruenig> urv, import
[09:13] <rbraley> !raid
[09:13] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:14] <urv> bruenig: thnx
[09:14] <erUSUL> vlt: maybe you used upgrade instead dis-upgrade?? why did you not used the update manager??
[09:14] <TJ__> Urv, press Print Screen on your keyboard
[09:14] <coldfusion> rbraley... you can use freedos live cd to recover your mbr with FDISK /MBR
[09:14] <Pelo> vlt,  what is wrong is that the upgrade manager is now wholy relliable especialy if you have removed the ubuntu-desktop meta package,  you'll need to clean install
[09:14] <coldfusion> I've done it many times =)
[09:14] <rbraley> /dev/sda now shows up as a fat16 partition instead of ntfs, does this mean grub is there?
[09:14] <Sumsar> coldfusion: nevermind, i was just curious... I am trying to find out whether i should use linux or just...
[09:14] <bruenig> import is much better than whatever tool is keybinded to print screen
[09:14] <meoblast001> ok when VMware returns "Unable to change virtual machine power state: The process exited with an error: End of error message." what do you do?
[09:14] <Pici> bruenig: gnome-screenshot usually
[09:15] <TJ__> sudo apt-get install import?
[09:15] <Pelo> meoblast001, try asking in #vmware they probably know
[09:15] <bruenig> import is part of imagemagick
[09:15] <IRCFrEAK> hi I have php installed, and just installed the cli version as well, however, the cli version doesn't seem to have mysql in it. How do I enable that? I tried reinstalling php5-mysql, but didn't make any difference
[09:15] <phiqtion> !automatix
[09:15] <urv> actually i want to take a snapshot of a application window
[09:15] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[09:15] <urv> sag not the whole screen
[09:15] <urv> not the whole screen
[09:15] <seanj> will stopping powernowd make my games run better?
[09:16] <meoblast001> Pelo: its empty
[09:16] <Pici> urv: check out the switches to gnome-screenshot, I think that can do single windows
[09:16] <rbraley> I know how to fix the mbr, but the problem is the raid 0 striping might make the mbr not be seen correctly without a raid driver
[09:16] <vlt> erUSUL: I first used adpet which left a lot of broke pkgs. Then I made the final fix with aptitude.
[09:16] <bruenig> seanj, maybe
[09:16] <mushroomja1> All right.
[09:16] <Pelo> meoblast001,  I might have made a typo  let'S try again #vmware
[09:16] <seanj> okay, I'm gonna check it out
[09:16] <meoblast001> pelo: no it has ppl
[09:16] <Aren> seanj, if youre games are CPU limited and your powernowd is slowing your cpu down at times
[09:16] <Aren> then yeah
[09:16] <meoblast001> pelo: but no ones talking
[09:16] <vlt> Pelo: The desktop package still exists. verything is fine after running `telinit 3`.
[09:16] <PriceChild> meoblast001, then be patient
[09:17] <Pelo> meoblast001, you need to be patient, not every channle is as busy as this one
[09:17] <Pelo> vlt, great, but I still don'T know how to fix it
[09:18] <AscendedDaniel_> any idea how to turn off power to a usb port in software?
[09:18] <phiqtion> PriceChild: any webpage on how-to setup a Ubuntu system completely the "manual" way? codecs, players, everything..
[09:18] <mushroomjay> Wooh!
[09:18] <mushroomjay> Haha! I LOVE UBUNTU!
[09:18] <AndyGraybeal> christians love ubuntu also!
[09:18] <PriceChild> phiqtion, wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:18] <Pelo> mushroomjay,  and I am sure ubuntu loves you to  but just a little more quietly
[09:18] <PriceChild> phiqtion, /msg ubotu <subject
[09:18] <coldfusion> and efficiently
[09:19] <phiqtion> PriceChild: thx
[09:19] <gnyffel> I know Gutsy is set to use the 2.6.22 kernel, and that this means 2.6.23+ won't be used until Gutsy+1, will the 2.6.22.3 one be used?
[09:19] <urv> thnx
[09:19] <Pelo> gnyffel, ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:19] <coldfusion> I love crontab
[09:19] <gnyffel> Pelo: thanks, I will
[09:19] <seanj> no, turning off powernowd didn't improve game performance
[09:20] <mushroomjay> I'm anticipated to try other versions, hell even make my own distro in the future.
[09:20] <Pelo> coldfusion, glad to hear it,  it's screwing up on mine at the moment
[09:20] <coldfusion> pelo what's wrong? I just ran through a whole bunch of crap with it
[09:21] <AndyGraybeal> i can imagine a jewbuntu
[09:21] <coldfusion> lol
[09:21] <salah_> is there any good guides for configuring TV-out (VGA)? I make it work, but only at 800x600
[09:21] <Pelo> coldfusion, for some reason it keeps the commands open after the aps have started and then the commands go zombie,  and then cron just sort of sits there
[09:21] <mushroomjay> I just want to say thank you everyone for helping me in the past, and today. I'm off for now, I'll come back.. When I can help, or when I need help! : D
[09:21] <coldfusion> yw
[09:22] <dyrne> salah_: are. are there any good guides ;p
[09:22] <dho_ragus> salah_: if there are i'd say they're at ubuntuguide.com
[09:22] <coldfusion> pelo that's jacked up =)
[09:22] <dho_ragus> salah_:  er... ubuntuguide.org
[09:22] <coldfusion> what are you trying to do with it
[09:22] <coldfusion> run scripts? commands?
[09:22] <dyrne> salah_: typically id do a google search like 'site:help.ubuntu.com tv out' or somesuch
[09:23] <Pelo> coldfusion, it ddnT do it on my previous install, so I'm assuming the installation got borked, I'll just have to clean install,  I'll probably do that tomorrow
[09:23] <coldfusion> ah
[09:23] <salah_> dyrne, dho_ragus thanks
[09:23] <Matt____> we still need onscreen keyboard at login screen option :)
[09:23] <Twelve-60> Someone help: Switch to the second virtual console during the first couple of dialogs (when asked about your preferred language for the installation etc.) by pressing the ""ALT-2""
[09:23] <coldfusion> My problem is that it ran /bin/sh by deafult
[09:23] <Matt____> somehow
[09:23] <Twelve-60> Does this mean Ctrl+Alt+F2 which goes to console normally?
[09:23] <coldfusion> *default - well one of them anyway
[09:23] <dho_ragus> Twelve-60: yes
[09:23] <thedash> does Feisty still use dash by default over bash ?
[09:24] <Matt____> editing xorg=scarry
[09:24] <Twelve-60> ty
[09:24] <coldfusion> pelo - starting to freak me out
[09:24] <dho_ragus> thedash: it does not appear so
[09:24] <seanj> Matt____: you get used to it after the first few dozen times...
[09:24] <Ink-Jet> Is that xorg gui thing coming in 7.10?
[09:24] <Pelo> coldfusion, wait until you've worked with linux a little more
[09:24] <dho_ragus> thedash: i just did `file `which bash`` and it showed a real binary executable
[09:24] <coldfusion> pelo - I was talking about you
[09:24] <coldfusion> =0
[09:25] <thedash> dho_ragus :: that doesn't help, does it, since you linked to bash
[09:25] <thedash> if you do "file `which sh`" it links to dash
[09:25] <dho_ragus> thedash: yes, but bash used to be a symlink to dash.
[09:25] <dho_ragus> thedash: now it's not, it's a binary.
[09:25] <Lappy> nvm, figured out the solution to my problem, apparently my shit ISP's cache was messing up my repository-gettings.. :@
[09:26] <thedash> I thought bash and dash were similar, but not quite the same ?
[09:26] <dho_ragus> thedash: yeah, you just have to turn that first letter around to get one or the other.
[09:26] <coldfusion> lol
[09:27] <Ink-Jet> lol
[09:27] <thedash> I seem to get errors whenever I use 'sh somefile.sh', but if I force it to bash, it almost always works
[09:27] <bruenig> they are not completely compatible, dash is faster at executing the things that it can execute which is why ubuntu uses it as its init interpreter, with all the unnecessary crap it loads at the front, it needs that edge for sure
[09:27] <thedash> can I redefine the default 'sh' link to bash instead of dash ?
[09:27] <gvsa123> does anyone here actually use a defragmenter in ubuntu?
[09:27] <seanj> gvsa123: I didn't know there was one
[09:27] <dho_ragus> thedash: i had that problem in the past too, which is probably why they don't use dash anymore.
[09:27] <dho_ragus> thedash: yeah, you can redefine the symlink
[09:27] <coldfusion> if it almost always works, then it's probably not the shell =)
[09:28] <bruenig> just call it explicitly with bash
[09:28] <gvsa123> seanj: there is actually one in the repos, but it's for ext2 only
[09:28] <seanj> gvsa123: damn!
[09:28] <knoppix> I need go to spanish ubuntu
[09:28] <Pelo> knoppix, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:28] <knoppix> tank you
[09:28] <coldfusion> denara
[09:29] <coldfusion> our somethin
[09:29] <coldfusion> *or
[09:29] <Pelo> coldfusion,  de nada
[09:29] <coldfusion> hehe
[09:29] <gvsa123> seanj: i think there will come a time when we'd have to defrag, so i'm looking for one right now
[09:29] <knoppix> hablas espaol?
[09:29] <Squee> How do I know what to put into my grub.conf file, if I'm trying to get my Windows XP to show up with it?
[09:29] <coldfusion> yeh three time
[09:29] <bruenig> gvsa123, fragmentation is not as big a problem
[09:29] <knoppix> pele hablas espaol?
[09:29] <bruenig> Squee, you mean menu.lst not grub.conf
[09:29] <Pelo> knoppix, no suffisamente para suporto de ubuntu
[09:29] <gvsa123> bruenig: but it will eventually...
[09:29] <seanj> gvsa123: yeah I'd be interested in that
[09:30] <Squee> bruenig, sure, do oyu know how? :P
[09:30] <thedash> how do you edit symbolic links anyways ?
[09:30] <PriceChild> knoppix, /join #ubuntu-es
[09:30] <coldfusion> delete it and make a new one
[09:30] <bruenig> Squee, there should be commented out examples in the menu.lst that show you how to do it for windows
[09:30] <ThatLazyGuy> I cant see my windows partition in the file manager
[09:30] <dyrne> SWAT: there is actually a commented out example in the menu.lst usually only thing youd need to change is the partition num
[09:31] <dho_ragus> thedash: delete them then create a new one
[09:31] <bruenig> thedash, or you can ln -sf
[09:31] <ThatLazyGuy> can anyone help me please, i cant see my windows partition on the file manager
[09:31] <dho_ragus> !ntfs
[09:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:31] <Squee> # examples
[09:31] <Squee> Under that?
[09:31] <Pelo> ThatLazyGuy, are you sure it is mounted ?
[09:31] <gvsa123> thatlazyguy: i think it should mounted or something
[09:31] <dutler> no help on the host issue?
[09:31] <dho_ragus> !ntfs | ThatLazyGuy
[09:31] <ubotu> ThatLazyGuy: please see above
[09:31] <_-XPERT-1> ThatLazyGuy: Do you know wich disk and partition?
[09:32] <ThatLazyGuy> i really have no idea..it mounted everytime i turn on the computer
[09:32] <ThatLazyGuy> and now its not
[09:32] <coldfusion> uh ohhhhh
[09:32] <gvsa123> so no one here has ever used or has a defragmenter installed in their system???
[09:32] <Pelo> ThatLazyGuy, did you do anyting with it ? that you should not have ?
[09:32] <Lappy> !vanilla
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vanilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <coldfusion> OK, I'm getting delirious. see ya
[09:32] <Squee> bruenig, the examples that I see are how I set mine up, but how do I tell what to put in the (hd#,#) ?
[09:32] <Twelve-60> argh, i'm trying to install from usb, i mouted the usb stick as a cdrom, now what?! :(
[09:32] <bruenig> gvsa123, fragmentation is not a big enough problem to warrant that
[09:33] <_-XPERT-_> ThatLazyGuy: try mount -a
[09:33] <Ink-Jet> So why is fragmentation a problem on Windows systems?
[09:33] <ThatLazyGuy> Pelo, i dont think so, i had amarok open and transfering some songs to the windows partition so i could transfer it to my zune player
[09:33] <Pelo> !install  > Twelve-60  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[09:33] <gvsa123> i see....
[09:33] <erUSUL> gvsa123: http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[09:33] <jshriver> Can someone point me to a FAQ/howto for setting up ssh shared keys?
[09:33] <bruenig> Squee, the first number, is the number of the hard drive, and the second is the number of the partition (the count starts from 0) so if it is on hard drive 2 partition 3, it would say (hd1,2)
[09:33] <Ink-Jet> thanks
[09:33] <ThatLazyGuy> then i play a song on amarok and my computer froze, and i restart it by pressing the power button
[09:33] <jshriver> so I can run remotely executed programs w/o having to have a password
[09:34] <Pelo> ThatLazyGuy, check in gparted to see if your partition is still being recognized, also try booting windows to maek sure it still works
[09:34] <bruenig> ThatLazyGuy, do you have windows installed? if so boot into it, shutdown and boot back into linux
[09:34] <Squee> bruenig, and the order of first, second is determined how?
[09:34] <bruenig> ThatLazyGuy, if you don't shutdown properly you can mess up some log file or some such
[09:34] <dho_ragus> jshriver: http://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+keys+howto
[09:34] <jshriver> thanks
[09:35] <bruenig> Squee, well is this an internal hard drive?
[09:35] <billy> how folks, i just installed Breezy 5.10  and what to upgrade. I tried the howto, but my version of the update-manager too old. Is there another way to upgrade i.e what are the repositories? thanks
[09:35] <ThatLazyGuy> Gnome partition editor said, WAnring: unable to read the contents of this filesystem! Because of this some operations may be unavailable. Did you install the correct plugin for this filesystem?
[09:35] <bruenig> ThatLazyGuy, do you have windows installed? if so boot into it, shutdown and boot back into linux
[09:35] <Squee> bruenig, well, it's one connected with the IDE cable, and not USB, if that's why you mean
[09:35] <Pelo> billy,  save yourself some trouble  dl 7.04 and clean install
[09:35] <gvsa123> erUSUL: read that one already... :)
[09:35] <ThatLazyGuy> Bruening, okay i'm going to restart now
[09:36] <Davy_Jones> !envy
[09:36] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:36] <simon_> i am trying to install a canon LBP-810 laser printer. but i cant find any linux drivers for it
[09:36] <bruenig> Squee, they are in the same order as how they are assigned, like hda would be 0 hdb would be 1
[09:36] <billy> Pelo: thanks, thought that my be the answer  :)
[09:36] <kane77> hi, my touchpad doesn't work very well in ubuntu.. main problem is tapping... I have to tap couple of times to get it click... it works normally in vista... is there anything I can do about it??
[09:36] <eifzon_> I just installed my Ubuntu and partitoned as LVM, why does LVM use lilo and not grub?
[09:36] <bruenig> Squee, so if you know those, you should know the grub equivalent
[09:36] <erUSUL> gvsa123: ;)
[09:36] <Davy_Jones> damn, i used envy
[09:36] <dooglus> kane77: apparently gsynaptic is good for configuring it
[09:36] <W8TAH> is there a prefered document for instructions on creating a windows file server using samba -- (ONLY FILE SERVER) that will authenticate from the windows active directory server allowing transparent access to domain authenticated users ?
[09:36] <gvsa123> i wonder how long it takes for a linux system to get fragmented though...
[09:37] <simon_> i am trying to install a canon LBP-810 laser printer. but i cant find any linux drivers for it
[09:37] <Pelo> billy,  thats, becaue you can only upgrade to the next version, you'd have to go through 3 upgrade to get to feisty anyway , this is much quicker
[09:37] <kane77> dooglus, ok I'll try this...
[09:37] <Squee> bruenig, okay, thanks
[09:37] <xtknight> sure linux can get fragmented too
[09:37] <xtknight> my virtual machines have been in 1000s of "fragments"
[09:38] <dooglus> xtknight: it takes over a second to DELETE a file on my feisty install - I don't know if that's due to fragmentation or what, but it used to be v. fast, like 10,000 files per second or something
[09:38] <PriceChild> Pelo, rofl
[09:38] <xtknight> dooglus,  "sudo filefrag -v /file/to/check" to see how many fragments your files are in
[09:38] <bruenig> dooglus, it depends on the size of the file
[09:38] <bruenig> dooglus, also if you are doing it in file manager, it could simply be a gui lag
[09:38] <gvsa123> dooglus: you see...
[09:38] <kane77> dooglus, did you mean gsynaptics? because gsynaptic only wants to install synaptic...
[09:38] <simon_> how can i install a printer with out drivers for it? is there a way around it
[09:38] <flpwch> Hey.  I'm trying to partition my hard drive with feisty so I can dual boot.  But, when I go past choosing the size of my partition, it says it can't partition my drive, and it aborts.
[09:38] <mollick2> anyone know why dual booting xp and 6.1 would make a ps/2 kb not work in windows?
[09:38] <dooglus> bruenig: that's weird.  you'd think deleting a file would be a simple matter of removing the inode from the directory, wouldn't you?
[09:38] <xtknight> kane77, ya he means gsynaptics
[09:38] <billy> Pelo:thanks download started :)
[09:39] <xtknight> !info gsynaptics
[09:39] <ubotu> gsynaptics: configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-3 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 248 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[09:39] <kdub432> mollick2: check the bios, i assume?
[09:39] <dooglus> kane77: I guess so.  I've not tried it, but someone recommended it a few hours ago
[09:39] <W8TAH> !samba
[09:39] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:39] <varu> seanj: u use an osk?
[09:39] <seanj> varu: no :(
[09:40] <W8TAH> !windows file server
[09:40] <varu> o
[09:40] <varu> lol
[09:40] <Pelo> W8TAH, do you mean nautilus ?
[09:40] <kane77> xtknight, eh I cannot run it.. it wants me to do something about the xorg.conf ("You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics")
[09:40] <seanj> varu: wait, what's an osk?
[09:40] <W8TAH> no - -i mean samba
[09:40] <seanj> maybe I do and I don't know it
[09:40] <varu> 1sec
[09:40] <xtknight> kane77, okay, google that option i suppose for where to place it in xorg.conf.
[09:40] <W8TAH> want to configure a file server for my network
[09:40] <dooglus> kane77: that's right.  edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the line it asks for
[09:40] <xtknight> kane77, ive never used gsynaptics myself
[09:41] <dooglus> kane77: I just tried it - it seems to be ok
[09:41] <W8TAH> ive done it gentoo -- but im looking for ubuntu specific docs
[09:41] <erUSUL> !samba | W8TAH
[09:41] <ubotu> W8TAH: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:41] <varu> onscreen keyboard
[09:41] <seanj> varu: oh, no not me
[09:41] <W8TAH> erUSUL: ya - i got that much
[09:41] <Pelo> W8TAH,  you might try checking in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:41] <seanj> varu: never used one before
[09:41] <W8TAH> Pelo: ok - cool
[09:41] <varu> o
[09:41] <snoopeh> Getting this error when running teamspeak & mumble , can't find any resolution on the forums / google. Can anyone Help?
[09:41] <snoopeh> stephen@stephen-desktop:~$ teamspeak
[09:41] <snoopeh> Runtime error 230 at 0806A7E9
[09:41] <snoopeh> Floating point exception (core dumped)
[09:41] <snoopeh> stephen@stephen-desktop:~$ mumble
[09:41] <snoopeh> Floating point exception (core dumped)
[09:42] <Pelo> W8TAH,  there is also a #samba channel
[09:42] <W8TAH> Pelo: yes, they are somewhat less than friendly there - -ive dealt with them before
[09:42] <simon_> i am trying to install a canon LBP-810 laser printer. but i cant find any linux drivers for it
[09:42] <varu> thats my only option
[09:42] <simon_> how can i install a printer with out drivers for it? is there a way around it
[09:42] <seanj> :(
[09:42] <ThatLazyGuy> Thank you so much! I can see my windows partition now =)
[09:42] <Pelo> W8TAH, it's #ubuntu's fault , we are too nice we donT prepare you for the real world
[09:43] <varu> but gnome is good
[09:43] <flpwch> i at least RTFM'd first
[09:43] <flpwch> but it didn't help :(
[09:43] <kane77> is restart of x enough to have changes in xorg.conf applied?
[09:43] <W8TAH> Pelo: LOL -- ya -- i hear u
[09:43] <Ink-Jet> yeah
[09:43] <seanj> I chose Ubuntu because it's easy
[09:43] <flpwch> seanj, yeah it is.
[09:43] <Alloosh> hi, I want to copy files to the var/www directory and its not letting me because the owner is root, how can I do it
[09:44] <balthamaisteri> sudo?
[09:44] <flpwch> sudo.
[09:44] <Ink-Jet> sudo
[09:44] <snoopeh> sudo
[09:44] <Pelo> Alloosh, alt-f2  gksu nautilus , that will give you the file manager with admin access
[09:44] <varu> i use it with virtualbox anyway
[09:44] <PriceChild> Alloosh, use sudo or add yourself to the www-data group
[09:44] <Ink-Jet> yeah, definealt sudo XD
[09:44] <PriceChild> Alloosh, preferably the first
[09:45] <snoopeh> can anyone help me :s
[09:45] <seanj> snoopeh: what's wrong?
[09:45] <Pelo> snoopeh,  no we can'T we don'T knwo what your problem is
[09:45] <snoopeh> mm already pasted it
[09:45] <snoopeh> 20:41:52]  <snoopeh> Getting this error when running teamspeak & mumble , can't find any resolution on the forums / google. Can anyone Help?
[09:45] <snoopeh> [20:41:55]  <snoopeh> stephen@stephen-desktop:~$ teamspeak
[09:45] <snoopeh> [20:41:55]  <snoopeh> Runtime error 230 at 0806A7E9
[09:45] <snoopeh> [20:41:55]  <snoopeh> Floating point exception (core dumped)
[09:45] <snoopeh> [20:41:55]  <snoopeh> stephen@stephen-desktop:~$ mumble
[09:45] <snoopeh> [20:41:55]  <snoopeh> Floating point exception (core dumped)
[09:45] <Pelo> snoopeh, the teemp sepak thing ?  isnT' that a wine prog ?
[09:45] <snoopeh> no
[09:46] <seanj> Pelo: there is a native GNU/Linux version too
[09:46] <snoopeh> it has linux version aswell
[09:46] <snoopeh> same with mumble
[09:46] <seanpcrowe> how do i find out what version of KDE i have??? (i want to use a different theme)
[09:46] <Alloosh> ok here is another question , I have xubuntu, kubuntu, and of course ubuntu, the problem is that I dont have option to turn of the computer in ubuntu, weird huh?
[09:46] <TJ__> Anyone here run freenodes?
[09:46] <snoopeh> sudo shutdown
[09:46] <snoopeh> :p
[09:46] <Pelo> seanpcrowe,  ask in #kubuntu they are the kde ppl
[09:46] <Ink-Jet> sudo shutdown -h now
[09:46] <PriceChild> TJ__, /join #freenode
[09:47] <TJ__> Yeah I know, but it's a bit slow there. Thanks PriceChild
[09:47] <seanpcrowe> pelo... ok =)
[09:47] <PriceChild> TJ__, then be patient.
[09:47] <Alloosh> guys I know that sudo can do all, but I think that it should be there, so the question is that why its not there?
[09:47] <snoopeh> Alloosh
[09:47] <bulmer> Alloosh: the command to shutdown is always there
[09:47] <PriceChild> TJ__, you haven't even asked in there.
[09:48] <Pelo> Alloosh, because you played with your permissions and removed the permission to shut down from your user account
[09:48] <zbyte1> im having problems with subversion when i try to connect from my windows box it lists the repos direcory but when i go to checkout it saysError * Can't connect to host '192.168.16.63': No connection could be made because the  target machine actively refused it. any troubleshooting ideas?
[09:48] <Ink-Jet> so does anyone else have a "restart" script?
[09:48] <seanj> darn snoopeh did you get the latest version, RC2?
[09:48] <seanj> snoopeh: I just ran it and it worked for me o_O
[09:48] <TJ__> quoted from that channel
 Is anyone exchaging refs?
[09:48] <TJ__>  *exchanging
[09:49] <snoopeh> seanj it "was" running fine for me
[09:49] <dannym> hello
[09:49] <Alloosh> no I didnt removed it, because I can shut down normally when I use xubuntu or kubuntu, and every time I try to shut log out ubuntu it asks me about using gdm because iam using the kdm
[09:49] <dyrne> dannym: hey
[09:49] <snoopeh> All i had done since it last worked
[09:49] <snoopeh> was put opengl in wine's registry
[09:49] <PriceChild> TJ__, Please. Stop taking this channel offtopic. Ask again but explain your question more
[09:49] <dannym> may I know what a "DIFF" extension is and how do I run it?
[09:49] <snoopeh> and disable alsa
[09:49] <seanj> snoopeh: maybe it needs ALSA
[09:49] <snoopeh> and i doubt its alsa thats the problem
[09:49] <snoopeh> no
[09:49] <snoopeh> TS is primarily OSS
[09:49] <seanj> k
[09:50] <TJ__> Pricechild, I don't understand what you're saying but I'll stop asking.
[09:50] <snoopeh> and the location it loads sound from is
[09:50] <snoopeh> is /dev/dps1
[09:50] <PriceChild> TJ__, If you want freenode operators, then ask in #freenode. Not here.
[09:51] <dannym> anyone here knows what a "DIFF" filename extension is and how to run it? anyone?
[09:51] <douglas_> Anybody here knows how to configure xorg.conf?
[09:51] <Pelo> dannym,  where did you get that file and what is it suppose to be ?
[09:51] <PriceChild> dannym, i guess it is a difference between two different versions of a file
[09:51] <PriceChild> !xconfig | douglas_
[09:51] <ubotu> douglas_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[09:52] <dannym> pelo... its you
[09:52] <douglas_> thx
[09:52] <dannym> pelo... its here - http://members.chello.nl/~j.vreeken/se401/
[09:52] <dannym> its a webcam driver
[09:52] <seanj> snoopeh: sorry, I don't know what the problem is :(
[09:53] <Undertoad> Diff is a software patch.
[09:53] <douglas_> how do i fix the refresh rate?
[09:53] <snoopeh> np
[09:53] <dannym> undertoad - how do i run it
[09:54] <dyrne> !fixres | douglas_
[09:54] <ubotu> douglas_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:54] <Undertoad> Google ".diff file extension"
[09:54] <Pelo> dannym,  looks like a bit of code you need to add/replace in the kernel source and recompile it
[09:54] <douglas_> thx again :D
[09:54] <dannym> pelo - how do i do that?
[09:55] <Alex_Sky> je suis sans voix
[09:55] <Pelo> dannym, I don'T know diddly about recompiling a kernel
[09:55] <seanj> oosies.
[09:55] <Pelo> Alex_Sky,  /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:55] <dannym> pelo - oh ok, looks complicated and scared to touch it too
[09:56] <Alex_Sky> je..je..
[09:56] <Ink-Jet> bonjour!
[09:56] <sensae> Hello
[09:56] <Alex_Sky> 1186 personne je suis carrement bluffer
[09:57] <Pelo> dannym, there is anotther webcam driver outthere, check the forum you donT' need to recompile the kernel for that one
[09:57] <lapo> hi
[09:57] <Pelo> Alex_Sky, c'est un canal en anglais ici , et en plus tu es hors sujet
[09:57] <sensae> I have a Trendnet gigabit PCI adapter and a netgear gigabit switch, with a cat6 patch cable running between them. The trendnet has r8169 drivers, but it's running 100base-T
[09:57] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> I've got a bit of a problem. I'm trying to install the nvidia glx drivers for my nvidia geforce 8300SG, but lspci shows this: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0423 (rev a1)
[09:58] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> what do I need to do to get it working?
[09:58] <dannym> pelo - yeah i did but i was getting errors. this webcam problems is giving me a major headache
[09:58] <sensae> When I try to force 1000base-t it goes down to 10-baset
[09:58] <zePh7r> where can I see info about alternative ubuntu repos?
[09:58] <sensae> My desktop running windows is also plugged into this switch with cat6, so it's something with the ubuntu system
[09:59] <Pelo> dannym, I never got my webcam working but it was just a cheap batman one , so I gave up,   webcam support is in demand and is getting better donT' dispair just be patient
[09:59] <vlt> Hello. How can I log the output of the boot process?
[09:59] <Pelo> vlt,   /var/log/boot
[09:59] <Neux> Nn som vet hur j ainstallerar cedega?
[09:59] <genii> vlt: Better yet just open up /var/log/boot
[09:59] <genii> Pelo: heh :)
[10:00] <sensae> Does anyone here have any experience with gigabit, specifically r8169?
[10:00] <vlt> Pelo, genii: Thanks
[10:00] <Pelo> sensae, try checking in he forum if no one answers  www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:01] <zePh7r> where can I see info about alternative ubuntu repos?
[10:01] <seiflotfy> hi i installed eclipse and i want to change the default workspace of eclipse to antoher one... however the startup screen doesnt ask me where i want my workspace to be
[10:01] <seiflotfy> plaese help
[10:01] <Pelo> !repos | zePh7r
[10:01] <ubotu> zePh7r: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:01] <SahBoo> Hello All, was wondering if there was anyone in here that has had trouble installing Ubuntu server 5 / 6 / 7 on a Pentium machine
[10:02] <zePh7r> thanks Pelo
[10:02] <Pelo> seiflotfy, check in the forum for devilspie
[10:03] <dyrne> SahBoo: tried debian? :)
[10:03] <snoopeh> Teamspeak / Mumble issue resolved
[10:04] <snoopeh> Having OSS & Alsa enabled in winecfg, won't let you run TS
[10:04] <Pelo> snoopeh,  congrats
[10:04] <snoopeh> mm
[10:04] <snoopeh> now i need to install alsa-oss
[10:04] <snoopeh> and check it out
[10:04] <SahBoo> dyrne:  nope, have a Ubuntu 6.06 server am on now and trying to create anotherone so that I can do some testing, and things are stopping at the partitioning part of the install
[10:05] <W8TAH> !libauthen-pam-perl
[10:05] <Ink-Jet> Maybe partition with the GPartEd live cd before, and then just use that?
[10:05] <Pelo> !info libauthen
[10:05] <ubotu> Package libauthen does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:05] <Wavel1> anyone know how to bridge non-ethernet networks (ie wireless) in ubuntu/linux
[10:06] <dyrne> SahBoo: might try a boot or livecd to setup partitions first. if md5 checks out .. dunno
[10:06] <SahBoo> dyrne:  have not tried the livecd, md5 checks out....tks for the suggestions
[10:08] <[EdD] insomnia> is this an international channel?
[10:08] <salah_> how do I change the screen resolution?
[10:08] <vlt> Pelo, genii: /var/log/boot is from Dec 2006. Where can I find the log of the recent boot process or how to activate boot logging?
[10:08] <Pelo> [EdD] insomnia, english but we can redirect you to one in your language
[10:08] <ShaneN> Hello. Are there any recommendations for a VPN client? I haven't used any VPN solutions on linux so I really have no idea what is used mostly
[10:08] <Pelo> salah,   menu > system > prefs > screen res
[10:09] <[EdD] insomnia> Pelo, i want one were i can speak german :D
[10:09] <Pelo> vlt,  the new entries are the the bottom ofthe file
[10:09] <BigToe7000> !ubuntu-de
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-de - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <BigToe7000> :?
[10:09] <BigToe7000> damn
[10:09] <Pelo> !de | [EdD] insomnia
[10:09] <Seveas> !de | [EdD] insomnia
[10:09] <ubotu> [EdD] insomnia: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:09] <salah_> Pelo, yes, but it only shows 800x600, my screen supports something like 1900x1xxx, any idea how to make it work with 1024x768?
[10:09] <[EdD] insomnia> ty
[10:09] <BigToe7000> close enough >:O
[10:09] <genii> vlt: It is not from 2006, that is only when the file was originally created
[10:10] <genii> vlt: every time you boot it appends to the end of the record from the last boot
[10:10] <salah_> !screen
[10:10] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:10] <pder> does anyone know if ubuntu supports input devices?
[10:10] <W8TAH> im having a problem installing libauthen-pam-perl - -launchpad says it should be in universe for dapper (im running dapper server LTS) but apt-get keeps choking -- what do i do?
[10:10] <Pelo> salah, you can add extra resloution you need manualy by editing the xorg.conf file ,   in the terminal type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:10] <protheus> salah : change the monitor resolution first
[10:10] <Seveas> pder, it would be rather hard to use without input devices...
[10:10] <youknowme> Can I get some help with Audacity?
[10:10] <christian> When I write wine aexefile.exe
[10:10] <pder> i know, thats why i was wondering
[10:11] <christian> it don't work
[10:11] <salah_> Pelo, this is changed to 1024x768, but still don't work. the problem is only when I plug in the VGA out
[10:11] <Pelo> W8TAH, I know there have been some issues with certain servers recentely , that might be the cause,  make sure you have the correct pacakge name and try again
[10:11] <Sensae> Could anyone help with compiling this driver source I have into a module?
[10:11] <vlt> genii: mtime is 2006-12-17 and the last line begins with that date, too.
[10:11] <Phydoux>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY phydoux
[10:11] <BigToe7000> owned
[10:12] <Pelo> salah,  this is a dualhead laptop  ?
[10:12] <W8TAH> Pelo: ive tried now 6 times and made sure that i did apt-get update to get the latest lists
[10:12] <Alloosh> a little discussion here,
[10:12] <Pelo> Phydoux, thanks for telling us yor password
[10:12] <salah_> Pelo, yes, trying to make the second screen to work fine too :)
[10:12] <s3raph1rn> :-)
[10:12] <vlt> Phydoux: lucky you that we just se your passwd as ******
[10:12] <Pelo> W8TAH,  try apt-cache search  packagename,  to make sure you have the correct spelling
[10:12] <protheus> salah, your monitor is not recognized automatically, so change the monitor resolution, then the screen resolution
[10:12] <W8TAH> Pelo: it may not be a probelm as im not planning to use ssl encryption
[10:12] <W8TAH> ok
[10:12] <Alloosh> do I have to lose every thing i have on my machine if I was force to format because of problems in the os?
[10:12] <Seveas> Phydoux, you'll want to change your nickserv password now
[10:12] <Phydoux> Thats supposed to be the password?
[10:12] <genii> vlt check your clock settings
[10:13] <christian> I repeat..... When I write 'wine example.exe' It wont work
[10:13] <s3raph1rn> tvtime is not finding any signal from my tv tuner
[10:13] <Pelo> salah, you'll need to check in the forum for more info I don'T knwo much about dualhead
[10:13] <W8TAH> Pelo: that got it -- thanks
[10:13] <elliotwoods> feisty fawn's install  64bit install disk hangs on my core 2 duo on a black screen before the gui appears
[10:13] <elliotwoods> is this common?
[10:13] <vlt> genii: The clock works fine, even the hwclock.
[10:13] <elliotwoods> do i have to use 32bit?
[10:14] <jsflores> hey all
[10:14] <Pelo> Phydoux, yep,  that's suppose to be yoru password and donT' put a space before the /
[10:14] <PriitM> elliottwoods, i get the same problem with amdx2 and 32bit version
[10:14] <Sensae> Could anyone help me compile a driver's source I have into a module? Or point me to a resource? Google hasn't been helpful.
[10:14] <s3raph1rn> elliotwoods, it could be your graphics card did you trie wuith "safe graphics mode" ?
[10:14] <Pelo> elliotwoods,  waht video card ?
[10:14] <bjames> hi all, is there a way to hide the menu bar in firefox until I press Alt? (yes I've already asked in /firefox)
[10:14] <christian> When I write 'wine example.exe' It wont work, help?
[10:14] <Phydoux> OK, I thought it would ask me my password
[10:14] <explody> is anyone familiar with accessing applications:/// in nautilus, and has it been removed or should it still work?
[10:14] <elliotwoods> s3raph1rn, tried that too, same problem
[10:14] <Alloosh> guys, will I lose everything on the machine if I format it >
[10:14] <Pelo> bjames,  try asking in #firefox
[10:14] <elliotwoods> Pelo, gfx 8800
[10:14] <Phydoux> ...that wasnt my password. You can try it bu it wont work
[10:14] <instabin|work> does ubuntu work good on tablet PCs ???
[10:14] <elliotwoods> (with an 8400 installed asell)
[10:14] <bjames> Pelo: I said I'd asked there ;)
[10:15] <cisow> j
[10:15] <bulmer> Alloosh: yes
[10:15] <Petee> Hello, I'm trying to run integrit on ubuntu 7.04 server, but it seg faults immediately, does anyone know if this is a problem with the integrit package for ubuntu, or whether its a hardware problem
[10:15] <s3raph1rn> elliotwoods, i perssonaly think on the whole 64bit is not worth it an a pain to do regular stuff like java and flash
[10:15] <Sensae> Anyone? Compiling a third party driver's source?
[10:15] <nocho> hi speak spanish?
[10:15] <Ahadiel> !es > nocho
[10:15] <Alloosh> even if I have partitions?
[10:15] <s3raph1rn> elliotwoods, i have an amd x2 64 bit and run 32bit ubuntu
[10:15] <Pelo> elliotwoods,  nvidia and ati cards donT have linux drivers in Foss so they are not included in ubuntu,  soyou will needthe alternate isntall cd,   which installd with a text installer,   also get the x86,   amd 65 doesn'T have a drivers for nvidia and ati at all
[10:15] <Ahadiel> nocho, try #ubuntu-es
[10:15] <s3raph1rn> tvtime is not finding any signal from my tv tuner
[10:15] <elliotwoods> s3raph1rn, i was going to use it for raytracing. i can live with 32bit
[10:15] <Pelo> well maybe it has a few
[10:16] <s3raph1rn> tvtime is not finding any signal from my tv tuner, and am using a supported video card. Any ideas?
[10:16] <elliotwoods> hmm, interesting, cheers Pelo
[10:16] <nocho> tanks all
[10:16] <Pelo> s3raph1rn, try looking it up in the forrum
[10:17] <MikeCamel> anyone here with Core 2 duo experience?
[10:17] <sarthor> using feisty, I have created dialer by isdnconfig but now i dont know how to dial that connection.. Help
[10:17] <Pelo> MikeCamel,  it helps to talk about your problem instead of asking for a particular kind of helper
[10:18] <kdub432> MikeCamel: use a smp or generic kernel, you should have no problems...
[10:18] <Pelo> sarthor, pon poff I think
[10:18] <MikeCamel> I'm using the generic kernel, but the machine hangs from time to time.  think it might be when the screensaver kicks in, but I'm not sure.
[10:19] <MikeCamel> Linux tangor 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:20] <databuddy> o what the hey
[10:20] <MC_> if i install ubuntu on my 2nd hd will i be able to duel boot
[10:20] <databuddy> hopefully kde and gnome can live happily together
[10:20] <Wavel1> anyone use virtualbox and have comments on it vs xen
[10:21] <Pelo> MC_, before installing swith your bios boot hdd to the one you will install ubuntu on and you will have no problem bootingeither os  even if you remove one hdd
[10:21] <Besucher_71> salle
[10:21] <MikeyMike> skype 1.4 won't install in 6.06LTS ( i am aware that skype is down right now but i'd like to install the newest version)
[10:21] <MC_> ty pelo
[10:21] <Pelo> MC_,  but make sure that both hdd are plugged in if you want the boot menu to be created with both os
[10:22] <MikeyMike> anyone know how to get skype 1.4 to install in dapper drake?
[10:22] <MikeyMike> it says i'm missing dependencies that can't be resolved
[10:22] <MikeyMike> apparently these libraries and things aren't available for dapper drake?
[10:22] <`Matir> which deps?
[10:22] <Heady> hello, where does ubuntu store downloaded packages ?? or how can i free up some space ?? because i dont have much more left :-/
[10:23] <MikeyMike> Matir, libasound
[10:23] <MikeyMike> libc6
[10:23] <MikeyMike> the maximum version for libasound i've found for dapper is 1.10
[10:23] <flpwch> I'm getting a problem when I'm trying to partition my hard drive with the feisty disk, and I can
[10:23] <MikeCamel> anyone have any thoughts on this machine hang on core 2 duo?
[10:23] <`Matir> have you checked -backports?
[10:23] <MikeyMike> skype requires 1.12 or higher
[10:23] <flpwch> can't seem to get it to work
[10:23] <eck> are there any known regressions with klogd in feisty (specifically, it sometimes throttles the cpu)?
[10:23] <MikeyMike> `Matir, i guess? i have those repos in my sourcest list
[10:24] <databuddy> flpwch: what exactly cant you get to go
[10:24] <MikeyMike> `Matir, is that what backports is for? newer libraries available for LTS?
[10:24] <Heady> hello, where does ubuntu store downloaded packages ?? or how can i free up some space ?? because i dont have much more left :-/
[10:24] <MikeCamel> heady - are you using apt-get, synaptic, or aptitude?  or other?
[10:24] <`Matir> MikeyMike, it's basically any software that's been upgraded since release for new features (i.e., not security fixes)... it lets you get SOME newer software, but not always
[10:25] <Heady> apt-get
[10:25] <seanj> Heady:  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:25] <Hausberg> my edgy does not automount any usb-memorysticks or so anymore - where is the problem?
[10:25] <Heady> thx !!
[10:25] <MikeCamel> heady - if you use aptitude, it will get rid of out-dated packages by default.  it's very helpful.
[10:25] <Jaysz> I am new to ubuntu and Linux. I just want to install the Ati driver for my VGA. It seems i am too stupid.
[10:25] <seanj> yw
[10:26] <pder> jaysz: thats just stinkin thinkin
[10:26] <Heady> MikeCamel: thanks, will search something about it
[10:26] <Jaysz> but I need help
[10:27] <MikeCamel> just do "sudo aptitude".
[10:27] <MikeCamel> man aptitude will give you some clues how to use it.  it's worth learning: it's great.
[10:27] <praet> what is the recommended program to track a long mp3 for cd burning
[10:27] <MikeCamel> synaptic is a full GUI equivalent.
[10:27] <madman91> HOW do i start a program as maximized?
[10:28] <speaker219|away> @lart 10 madman91
[10:28] <madman91> speaker219|away: ?
[10:28] <meoblast001> how do you delete a file from the terminal?
[10:28] <speaker219|away> sorry madman91
[10:28] <praet> meoblast001: rm filename
[10:28] <MikeyMike> has anyone tried to install skype 1.4 in dapper drake? i can't get libasound to satisfy the version requirement needed for the deb package
[10:28] <seanj> Jaysz: try this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:28] <Some_Person> Can I stop StickyKeys nagging me to turn it on?
[10:28] <Jaysz> I am trying
[10:28] <pder> is it possible to issue a command to a linux computer and have it perform an operation such as display data on the screen?
[10:29] <MikeCamel> pder - what do you mean, exactly?  a remote machine?
[10:29] <seanj> Jaysz: I don't own an ATI card so I can only guess at it :(
[10:29] <forest252525> can someone help me with my wireless card
[10:30] <kdub432> forest252525: model?
[10:30] <MikeyMike> is pidgin not in the repositories for 6.06LTS?
[10:30] <DShepherd> MikeyMike, nope
[10:30] <chalcedny> what's the command to show my directory names ( i need to know if i have a subdirectory from home) ?
[10:30] <kdub432> doubtful MikeyMike
[10:30] <MikeyMike> wow
[10:30] <forest252525>  broadcom bcm4306
[10:30] <MikeyMike> whatever happened to LTS lol
[10:30] <seanj> chalcedny: find . -type d
[10:30] <DShepherd> chalcedny, ls #maybe
[10:30] <praet> Some_Person: do you have this feature enabled? System > Preferences > Keyboard > Accessibility
[10:30] <WormRunner> is there a channel for talk about gutsy?
[10:30] <forest252525> kdub do you want to go in private
[10:31] <seanj> ls #maybe
[10:31] <Some_Person> praet: I mean when tapping shift 5 times
[10:31] <seanj> what? lol
[10:31] <MikeyMike> LTS means long term support darnit!
[10:31] <MikeyMike> :(
[10:31] <DShepherd> seanj, :-P
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[10:31] <forest252525> i already tried a lot of thing, seemd to be set but can't see it
[10:31] <seanj> hehe
[10:32] <MikeyMike> kdub432, DShepherd, will pidgin work in 6.06LTS?
[10:32] <MikeyMike> are the deb packages for it?
[10:32] <Some_Person> Pidgin = Gaim
[10:32] <ehc> are there articles on partitioning ubuntu in a specific way, not using the entire drive?
[10:32] <MikeyMike> Some_Person, duh.
[10:32] <DShepherd> MikeyMike, trying getdeb.net and see if there's a deb there. I cant guarantee that it will work though
[10:32] <seanj> MikeyMike: do you need pidgin for some reason that gaim doesn't satisfy?
[10:32] <MikeyMike> DShepherd, thanks
[10:32] <kdub432> MikeyMike: itll work, alright. don't know about the debs, but i would guess that there are. you can always compile it too :-)
[10:32] <MikeyMike> seanj, i suppose i want to update
[10:33] <seanj> MikeyMike: oh, okay :)
[10:33] <MikeyMike> kdub432, compiling is always fun......
[10:33] <seanj> the only time I upgraded GAIM was when Yahoo stopped working in the current versin
[10:33] <seanj> otherwise I just leave it alone..
[10:33] <Some_Person> Can I make Feisty size the taskbar items all the same like in Gutsy?
[10:33] <MikeyMike> well i am pretty partial to gaim but apparently pidgin supports direct connections with windows
[10:33] <QiCr> Hi, can anyone help me with installing a lan driver? its concerning an onboard gbit lan..
[10:33] <chalcedny> seanj: that finds a few too many ;) can we limit it to home directory ?
[10:34] <kdub432> QiCr, you wouldnt happen to have a p5b board, would you?
[10:34] <chalcedny> MikeyMike: Pidgin is supposed to support ubuntu i think
[10:34] <MikeyMike> chalcedny, i don't see any ubuntu support on their page
[10:34] <MikeyMike> :/
[10:34] <chalcedny> :(((
[10:34] <MikeyMike> i was able to find this though: http://drsjlazar.blogspot.com/2007/05/pidgin-for-dapper.html
[10:34] <QiCr> its a P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe
[10:34] <PriceChild> MikeyMike, "direct connections"?
[10:34] <chalcedny> i have gaim working on ubuntu feisty
[10:34] <praet> Some_Person: did you see if that was enabled
[10:34] <Some_Person> praet: no, it isn't
[10:34] <WormRunner> oneschard:  thanks
[10:34] <MikeyMike> PriceChild, you know that cool feature that lets you drag images into the chat
[10:34] <PriceChild> MikeyMike, gaim has basically all the functionality that pidin does.
[10:34] <PriceChild> MikeyMike, yeah gaim does that
[10:35] <MikeyMike> PriceChild, no it doesn't
[10:35] <d4rkmonkey> lol...
[10:35] <PriceChild> MikeyMike, it does on aim
[10:35] <MikeyMike> it hasn't for a really long time
[10:35] <Some_Person> praet: i want it to not ask me to turn it on when i tap shift 5 times
[10:35] <MikeyMike> PriceChild, not the gaim i have anyway
[10:35] <kureth> guten Morgen
[10:35] <chalcedny> what's the command to show my directory names ( i need to know if i have a subdirectory IN home) ?
[10:35] <praet> chalcedny: ls
[10:35] <madman91> how can i run a program maximized in beryl? .. or in general
[10:35] <MikeyMike> PriceChild, 1.5.1 doesn't support direct connections to windows computers
[10:35] <x600> chalcedny, ls
[10:35] <etyrnal> haw can i launch a process at boot time as a specific user?
[10:35] <chalcedny> ls gets me filenames no?
[10:35] <flpwch> databuddy: sorry for the late reply, but.  I can run the partitioner until just after I choose the size of the partition.  I get an error that it couldn't edit the drive, and it abots to the screen where it chooses the size again.
[10:36] <forest252525> kdub432 i already tried to install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:36] <flpwch> it does it on both alternate and desktop 1386 installs
[10:36] <etyrnal> OR - how can i adjust a currently running process's to be running as another user
[10:36] <chalcedny> but if i made a directory back someime with a set of documents.. i forgot how to find it
[10:36] <flpwch> would it make a difference if i switch to the other type?
[10:36] <DShepherd> chalcedny, ls -F
[10:36] <MikeyMike> i need a skype 1.4 package for 6.06 :(
[10:36] <zbyte1> how do you list groups a user is in in command line?
[10:36] <PriceChild> zbyte1, "groups" ?
[10:36] <MikeyMike> maybe i should 'update' my 6.06 to feisty
[10:37] <MikeyMike> can you do that? lol
[10:37] <forest252525> kdub432: i already tried to install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:37] <etyrnal> groups <user>
[10:37] <MikeyMike> lots of people did to edgy and it was a nightmare from what i remember
[10:37] <floppyears> hi does anyone here use xfs ?
[10:37] <floppyears> if so do you guys find it reliable ?
[10:37] <QiCr> forest252525 i think he left.. :(
[10:37] <zbyte1> thank you could not remember lol
[10:37] <xtknight> floppyears, i use it and i love it
[10:37] <etyrnal> zbyte1: groups <user>
[10:37] <xtknight> floppyears, stable as a rock
[10:37] <forest252525> ho
[10:37] <chalcedny> DShepherd: ty
[10:37] <Tall_guy26> hey all is anyone here using gutsy?
[10:37] <floppyears> thanks xtknight
[10:37] <forest252525> that's why he wasn't answering melol
[10:37] <kelsa|martalli> how can I change the time from the command line?
[10:37] <PriceChild> Tall_guy26, #ubuntu+1
[10:37] <xtknight> floppyears, it has less fragmentations for big files like virtual machines, that's why i use it on half of my system
[10:37] <floppyears> xtknight: is there limits to the size of those partitions ?
[10:37] <Tall_guy26> ok thanks
[10:37] <DShepherd> chalcedny, yw
[10:37] <xtknight> floppyears, certainly but probably over a terabyte
[10:37] <kelsa|martalli> Tall_guy26:  they are all in #ubuntu+1
[10:38] <floppyears> xtknight: thanks
[10:38] <QiCr> forest252525 yeah, and he was just about to tell me something which sounded important :|
[10:38] <NET||abuse> grrr, had to ditch gnome untill i fix 3d on my machine,, how do i change default intarweb browser in KDE?
[10:38] <praet> chalcedny: ls -ld */
[10:39] <jrib> kelsa|martalli: date
[10:39] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  Probably with the system-settings applet, but you could ask in #kubuntu if that doesn't work
[10:39] <seanj> the search dialog doesn't work :(
[10:39] <kelsa|martalli> jrib:  thx
[10:40] <chalcedny> praet:  ~$ ls -ld */
[10:40] <chalcedny> ls: invalid option -- 2
[10:40] <chalcedny> Try `ls --help' for more information.
[10:40] <chalcedny> ~$
[10:40] <Tall_guy26> thanks all
[10:40] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, thanks
[10:40] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, trying to get my intel garphics driver working :)
[10:40] <jrib> chalcedny: you have a directory or file that starts with a dash.  What are you trying to do?
[10:40] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  you probably need to go into the command line and run through "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:41] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, switched my drive over from a dead laptop(was ati radeon mobility) to a new machine (well a year old or so on intel 915GM chipset)
[10:41] <chalcedny> DShepherd: ls -F gets me all my file names
[10:41] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  Have you ever done that?
[10:41] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, i did already, didn't get 3d working
[10:41] <QiCr> Can anyone help me installing the driver of a onboard lan, its a ASUS P5N32-SLI DELUXE mobo.. PLEASE!
[10:41] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  OIC.  I don't think you are going to get much 3d out of an intel graphics chipset
[10:41] <chalcedny> jrib: my home directory has everything in it, i need to find out if i made a directory for legal stuff.
[10:41] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, I had to install the xserver-xorg-video-intel package,, and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver etc.. and no, didn't get 3d running
[10:42] <chalcedny> jrib: my home directory has everything in it, i need to find out if i made a directory for legal stuff. er .. subdirectory
[10:42] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  Did you enable dri and mesa?
[10:42] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, hmm, #compiz-fusion are working
[10:42] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  OK, maybe they can help better =)
[10:42] <praet> chalcedny: ls -al |grep ^d
[10:42] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, i mean they said in that channel the 915 chipset should do it ;)
[10:42] <NET||abuse> kelsa|martalli, ok,, was really just here for the kde settings ;) thanks for that.
[10:42] <chalcedny> praet: ty much :)
[10:42] <kelsa|martalli> NET||abuse:  no problem
[10:43] <Some_Person> Can I make Feisty's taskbar have set size for items like in Gutsy?
[10:43] <Mr_Awesome> is there any way to get a higher resolution than 1024x768?
[10:44] <flpwch> Mr_Awesome: shouldn't it be native to whatever your screen is anyway?
[10:44] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: I did that by editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding "1280x1024" to the list of resolutions for 24-bit video
[10:44] <flpwch> o
[10:44] <pbugni> where is the setting for the 'system default shell' ?  surprised to find new accounts are getting /bin/sh by default
[10:44] <Mr_Awesome> seanj: ok, ill try that. thanks
[10:44] <Some_Person> Can I make Feisty's taskbar have set size for items like in Gutsy?
[10:44] <martian> Is there a way to kill the foreground app if it seems to have frozen? Like, a 3d game.. without killing X entirely
[10:44] <Heady> damn people, i just love this ubuntu feisty !! i have tried older versions of ubuntu, but i always had problem with hardware etc, but this one...it became my default OS (although win xp is still installed)
[10:45] <chalcedny> praet: these are either files or webpages i saved a copy of maybe?
[10:45] <wolferine> pbugni, edit the user accound
[10:45] <wolferine> accounT*
[10:45] <QiCr> ANYONE PLEASE! help me install the driver of an onboard LAN, it's a ASUS P5N32-SLI DELUXE mobo.. PLEASE!
[10:45] <pbugni> wolferine: i can fix per user, just wanting to know where the system wide default lives, so it gives out the correct default: /bin/bash
[10:46] <seanj> sorry QiCr, I don't know how :(
[10:46] <praet> chalcedny: what are you trying to do?
[10:47] <QiCr> its just.. :( i've been seaching google for a longtime now and i just can't find anything.. and a computer without internet is no good..
[10:47] <lxgg> hey
[10:47] <rockets> What do I need to do to make a second user have root sudo powers
[10:47] <seanj> ugh
[10:47] <Mr_Awesome> seanj: what did you edit?
[10:47] <rockets> just add him to the admin group/
[10:47] <rockets> ?
[10:47] <Mr_Awesome> in xorg.conf
[10:47] <chalcedny> praet: at some point i copied all my lawyer's letters into a directory, i think. Now i have Court tomorrow and i need to find them and print them fast.
[10:47] <lxgg> does anyone know how to configure the vftpd the right way, so i van have read and write acces on it ????
[10:47] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: where it says Depth 24, under it is Modes... I added "1280x1024" to the list right behind "1024x768"
[10:48] <wolferine> pbugni, its assigned when you create the user
[10:48] <Mr_Awesome> seanj: mine already says "1280x800" :/
[10:48] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: ugh, I duno then :(
[10:48] <Mr_Awesome> hmm, well thanks anyway
[10:49] <pbugni> wolferine: okay, so you're telling me i should always say useradd -s /bin/bash ...
[10:49] <flpwch> I'm trying to partition my hard drive with the feisty install disc, and it throws an error once i choose the size of the partition I want.  Every time, it says it can't edit my hard drive (or something to the extent) and it goes back to the screen to choose the size of my hard drive.  I'm using the i386 install, i've tried both desktop and alt discs.  What could my problem be?
[10:49] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: did you try on the Desktop, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution?
[10:49] <pbugni> i'm just used to the default being /bin/bash, not /bin/sh - nm, i'll deal w/ it
[10:49] <praet> chalcedny: find /|grep 'keyword'  << to search filenames
[10:49] <jrib> pbugni: you should be using adduser to create new users
[10:49] <wolferine> pbugni, i imagine you changed nothing
[10:49] <praet> chalcedny: to search for text IN files, try grep -ir 'keyword' *
[10:49] <Mr_Awesome> seanj: yeah, thats all ive tried. its set to 1024x768 by default, and i have two other options which are lower res
[10:49] <chalcedny> praet: inside directories other than home ?
[10:49] <HelloMeow> I am having trouble trying to dual boon
[10:49] <jrib> pbugni: and the default login shell *is* bash
[10:49] <seanj> man I don't know then, Mr_Awesome :(
[10:49] <praet> chalcedny: that will search the entire computer
[10:49] <pbugni> okay, looks like useradd != adduser - my bad
[10:50] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: you do need to restart X to get the new resolutions BTW
[10:50] <praet> chalcedny: starting at the root /
[10:50] <Mr_Awesome> right
[10:50] <HelloMeow> I have installed xubuntu, but can't boot the windows partition
[10:50] <MikeyMike> can i upgrade 6.06 to feisty fawn?
[10:50] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: I usually log out, then hit ALT+CTRL+Backspace to restart it
[10:50] <chalcedny> praet: it has to be in a subdirectory of home.. i have too much in home to grep it all now.
[10:50] <HelloMeow> I used GRUB, it doesn't appear
[10:50] <jrib> chalcedny: what do you know about it?  do you know of a keyword or something that will show up in the name?
[10:50] <seanj> Mr_Awesome: other than that, I don't know what can be done
[10:51] <HelloMeow> I used fdisk -l, still not there
[10:51] <praet> chalcedny: try fast file sarching using fgrep instead
[10:51] <HelloMeow> Can anybody help me here?
[10:51] <Mr_Awesome> seanj: ill search around the internets. thanks for the help
[10:51] <seanj> k Mr_Awesome, good luck
[10:51] <FuLio> Which music program can i use to play music on ubuntu???
[10:51] <FuLio> Which music program can i use to play music on ubuntu???
[10:51] <chalcedny> praet: ty im guessing it will be law or court or something like that
[10:51] <flpwch> FuLio: amarok
[10:51] <PriceChild> FuLio, rhythmbox
[10:51] <flpwch> or songbird, im betting
[10:51] <HelloMeow> Can anybody help me figure out how to dual boot?
[10:51] <[swb] > FuLio, open office
[10:51] <seanj> I'm using rhythmbox or xmms
[10:51] <loscol> nas
[10:51] <seanj> [swb] : lol
[10:52] <chalcedny> praet: *law* or *court*
[10:52] <[swb] > :P
[10:52] <PriceChild> FuLio, rhythmbox is installed by default in applications > sound and video >
[10:52] <flpwch> [swb] : winner
[10:52] <seanj> mind you it doesn't play mp3 without a little fiddling..
[10:52] <flpwch> PriceChild: amarok>everything, except foobar with some good panels.ui
[10:52] <[swb] > seanj, yeah its a shame about the fiddling, its been a while since I reinstalled and hence had to do it
[10:53] <KarL0s> hi i just installed ubuntu but i have no sound could you help ???
[10:53] <wolferine> what can extract multiple .zip files?
[10:53] <seanj> [swb] : works great after though :)
[10:53] <[swb] > seanj, aye
[10:53] <[swb] > amarok is my personal fav
[10:53] <flpwch> KarL0s: turn on/ plug in speakers?
[10:53] <seanj> ah
[10:53] <seanj> I havent used it much.. maybe I will right now
[10:53] <[swb] > since I got enough ram and processor for it not to spaz out too badly when I have my entire collection in my playlist
[10:53] <[swb] > mind you it worked pretty good on the 1.4 gig with 750 of ram
[10:54] <KarL0s> its a laptop
[10:54] <FuLio> yyou said it doesnt play mp3?
[10:54] <[swb] > I dont have a pagefile :D
[10:54] <KarL0s> its not  muted
[10:54] <KarL0s> and the volume is at max
[10:54] <[swb] > FuLio, some fiddling is reuiqred, its easy tho
[10:54] <seanj> [swb] : I just bought another gig of RAm to make a windows game work... it refused, so I uninstalled Windows... so to speak
[10:54] <FuLio> can you help me with it?
[10:54] <alexandre_> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) can someone help me with that
[10:55] <seanj> FuLio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413626
[10:55] <jrib> alexandre_: pastebin the entire error and the command you used to get it on pastebin
[10:55] <alexandre_> how does pastebin work
[10:55] <alexandre_> ?
[10:56] <n2ob> hi, what's the easiest way to block all incoming access when trying out webserver etc?
[10:56] <lwizardl> hi
[10:56] <wolferine> alexandre_, you post, we see it
[10:56] <aka_youtube> hi
[10:56] <[swb] > haha seanj, the straw that broke the camels back?
[10:56] <lwizardl> gone someone help me with making bootable cdroms using k3b
[10:56] <aka_youtube> I need help with gutsy...
[10:56] <PriceChild> aka_youtube, #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <linux_> hello
[10:56] <[swb] > FuLio, I would but I cant find the howto I used
[10:56] <alexandre_> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:56] <alexandre_> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[10:56] <alexandre_> Construction de l'arbre des dpendances
[10:56] <alexandre_> Lecture de l'information d'tat... Fait
[10:56] <alexandre_> bcm43xx-fwcutter est dj la plus rcente version disponible.
[10:56] <alexandre_> 0 mis  jour, 0 nouvellement installs, 0  enlever et 3 non mis  jour.
[10:56] <alexandre_> 1 partiellement installs ou enlevs.
[10:56] <alexandre_> Il est ncessaire de prendre 0o dans les archives.
[10:56] <alexandre_> Aprs dpaquetage, 0o d'espace disque supplmentaires seront utiliss.
[10:56] <aka_youtube> thx PriceChild
[10:57] <linux_> whats up fellas
[10:57] <[swb] > Fulio, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Multimedia_Codecs_.26_Browser_Plug-ins try following this and the section below it entitled multimedia players
[10:57] <[swb] > see where that gets you
[10:57] <jrib> !paste | alexandre_
[10:57] <chalcedny> linux_: lots of questions, you?
[10:57] <ubotu> alexandre_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <linux_> can someone help answer an FTP question?
[10:57] <jrib> !someone | linux_
[10:57] <ubotu> linux_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:57] <chalcedny> linux_: ask away :)
[10:58] <alexandre_> ok thank you i didn't know
[10:58] <linux_> cool
[10:58] <wolferine> !ask | linux_
[10:58] <ubotu> linux_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:58] <KarL0s> Gus
[10:58] <cficien> hello room
[10:58] <KarL0s> hi i just installed ubuntu but i have no sound could you help ???
[10:58] <seanj> cficien: hiya
[10:58] <linux_> Does anybody know why I wouldn't be able to access my linux server from a remote FTP?
[10:58] <wolferine> KarL0s, buy one?
[10:59] <[swb] > linux_, no ftp server installed, firewall/networking issues getting in the way?
[10:59] <wolferine> linux_, what FTP server?
[10:59] <KarL0s> no no nooo i have a sound card
[10:59] <craft> how do you mount an iso as a drive?
[10:59] <Pici> !iso | craft
[10:59] <ubotu> craft: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:59] <craft> thanks Pici ;] 
[10:59] <linux_> FTP installed, Firewall used=Firestarter. I have ports 20-23 setup for everyone to access for test purposes
[10:59] <linux_> ProFTPd
[11:00] <praet> chalcedny: ok try     fgrep -ir 'law' ~/*
[11:00] <[swb] > are you using a specific client to test, or telnetting to the port?
[11:00] <[swb] > linux_, can you access it locally?
[11:00] <wolferine> linux_, did you check the Proftpd logs?
[11:00] <DShepherd> any gnome burner that supports multisession?
[11:00] <linux_> I can telnet!
[11:00] <linux_> But no FTP
[11:00] <wolferine> [swb] , go nuts
[11:00] <cficien> can someone please tell me howto list the services running on ubuntu ( under redhat it /sbin/chkconfig --list)
[11:00] <alexandre_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33991/
[11:01] <chalcedny> praet: ty
[11:01] <KarL0s> im using a hda ati sb card
[11:01] <linux_> Not sure how to do check locally
[11:01] <wolferine> cficien, sudo ps -A
[11:01] <[swb] > wolferine, dont mind if I do
[11:01] <[swb] > asfdpsdfp34tq4 tv3he0
[11:01] <craft> hmm, Pici, any idea how to do it with a smb share?
[11:01] <chalcedny> praet: bash: /bin/fgrep: Argument list too long
[11:01] <chalcedny> (END)
[11:01] <[swb] > linux_, try 'telnet localhost 21'
[11:01] <craft> I put in the smb://user@IP/path/to/file.iso but it's saying no such file or dir
[11:01] <[swb] > and see if you get connected or connection refused
[11:01] <linux_> I can give you the IP and you can try to FTP? perhaps you can see why it doesn't work?
[11:01] <jrib> alexandre_: what does this return:  LANGUAGE=en apt-cache policy bcm43xx-fwcutter
[11:01] <KarL0s> im using a hda ati sb450 card  and i cant get any sound  could you help?
[11:02] <[swb] > I /could/ but that wouldnt be testing locally :)
[11:02] <[swb] > linux_, I meant for you to type what is in quotes on the command line btw
[11:02] <[swb] > I assumed you knew that but you may not
[11:02] <cficien> actually, I want to shutdown the process instead of kill it
[11:02] <Nergar> hello
[11:02] <Nergar> one simple quetion
[11:02] <wolferine> KarL0s, what are you trying to use to get the sound to work?
[11:02] <apple-gunkies> So is the drupal package just broken or what?
[11:03] <linux_> Connection closed by foreign host.
[11:03] <alexandre_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33992/
[11:03] <Nergar> is the directory ~/.gnupg supposed to be root's
[11:03] <Nergar> ??
[11:03] <sirjoshimus> hi, does anyone here use ardour?
[11:03] <[swb] > linux_ problem is your ftp server isnt running or listening on the port you think it is then
[11:03] <sirjoshimus> its giving me JACK problems
[11:03] <KarL0s> yes i need the sound to work
[11:03] <[swb] > do 'netstat -n | grep 21'
[11:03] <Nergar> anyone?
[11:03] <linux_> oh! What can I do to fix this?
[11:04] <wolferine> KarL0s, those will go alot smoother if you answer questions when asked
[11:04] <[swb] > Nergar, probably not
[11:04] <[swb] > unless it is in root's home
[11:04] <jrib> Nergar: no
[11:04] <[swb] > .directories should generally be owned by the person whos home they are in
[11:04] <wolferine> s/those/this
[11:04] <Nergar> i wonder why mine is root's
[11:05] <[swb] > Nergar, running gnupg as root from sudo probably
[11:05] <linux_> swb, do you have any suggesstions how to get the FTP to listen on port 21?
[11:05] <Nergar> [swb] , maybe
[11:05] <[swb] > linux_, do 'netstat -n | grep 21'
[11:05] <[swb] > see if anything comes up
[11:05] <Nergar> chowing
[11:05] <bern> hey, anyone know why my restricted drivers arent installing?
[11:05] <Nergar> chowning *
[11:05] <[swb] > also try 'ps aux | grep ftp'
[11:05] <wolferine> bern what type of video card?
[11:05] <[swb] > Nergar, you may need -R
[11:05] <sirjoshimus> bern: try envy
[11:05] <bern> i try to enable desktop effects, and tellme to enable to drivers. and then it says to restart. so i do, and i still cant enable desktop effects..
[11:06] <chalcedny> i need something.. a command that will search for directories inside my home directory, please?
[11:06] <linux_> swb, I get a whole report
[11:06] <Nergar> [swb] ,yes thanx
[11:06] <bern> wolferine, its an nvidia geforce 5 series
[11:06] <alexandre_> jrib: do you know what is the problem
[11:06] <alexandre_> ?
[11:06] <sirjoshimus> bern: envy is a program that auto installs them for you
[11:06] <Nergar> [swb] , its -R
[11:06] <[swb] > chalcedny, cd to the dir you want to search in, then do 'find . | grep thingtosearchfor'
[11:06] <sirjoshimus> bern: worked pretty well for me
[11:06] <jrib> alexandre_: yep, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcm43xx-fwcutter/+bug/127624
[11:06] <craft> how do you mount a samba share?
[11:06] <wolferine> bern, so your using the 'nvidia' driver I hope, if all goes well, is it a single monitor?
[11:06] <bern> sirjoshimus, alright, ill try it out. is it in the repos?
[11:06] <[swb] > that is case sensitive tho, if you want to search non case sensitive to grep -i thing
[11:06] <PriceChild> !envy | sirjoshimus bern
[11:06] <sirjoshimus> um, i dont think so
[11:06] <ubotu> sirjoshimus bern: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:06] <bern> wolferine, yes its my laptop. i just installed ubuntu on it
[11:06] <chalcedny> [swb] : ty
[11:07] <wolferine> bern, do not use envy, please
[11:07] <PriceChild> !worksforme | sirjoshimus
[11:07] <ubotu> sirjoshimus: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[11:07] <rein> how can i add multiple channels to autojoin on server connect with xchat?
[11:07] <linux_> swb, I get a list of numbers saying CONNECTED
[11:07] <PriceChild> rein, xchat or xchat-gnome?
[11:07] <chalcedny> [swb] : ~$ 'find . | grep law
[11:07] <chalcedny> >
[11:07] <wolferine> bern can you confirm that the 'nvidia' driver is being used, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <sirjoshimus> bern: heh, i guess ubotu disagrees
[11:07] <bern> wolferine, what do you suggest i do?
[11:07] <chalcedny> [swb] : it's not going to work :(
[11:08] <sirjoshimus> use the manual install though
[11:08] <sirjoshimus> not automatic
[11:08] <jrib> chalcedny: just do 'grep -R law .' then
[11:08] <Mr_Awesome> seanj: i updated the intel video card driver and it works now :)
[11:08] <[swb] > chalcedny, without the '
[11:08] <insomninja> is /usr/local/RealPlayer a good place to install RealPlayer?
[11:08] <[swb] > just the find...
[11:08] <magnetron> !gobuntu
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gobuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <[swb] > sorry
[11:08] <sirjoshimus> select the driver you know is the one, dont let envy detect it for you
[11:08] <rein> xchat gnome
[11:08] <praet> chalcedny: ok try   find ~/ -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -iE "law|court" |less
[11:08] <jrib> !realplayer > insomninja (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:08] <magnetron> what is the official gobuntu channel?
[11:08] <PriceChild> rein, i run xchat, so i can't remember... but you need to edit your network servers somewhere from the menus... sorry i can't be of any help
[11:08] <rein> dunno try google?
[11:08] <PriceChild> magnetron, i don't think there is one?
[11:08] <rein> yea i know where
[11:09] <chalcedny> praet: ty
[11:09] <rein> there is an option "list to channels to auto join"
[11:09] <magnetron> ty PriceChild
[11:09] <rein> but what is the seperator?
[11:09] <linux_> swb, I get a list of numbers saying CONNECTED, Should I look for anything in particular running netstat?
[11:09] <rein> as "," or space aren't correct
[11:09] <[swb] > linux_, did you do the | grep as well?
[11:09] <[swb] > hmm actually
[11:09] <spider-pig> hi guys,
[11:09] <[swb] > ignore that
[11:09] <[swb] > spider-pig, SIMPSONS MOVIE!
[11:09] <alexandre_> jrib: i understand that the page isn't available but i dont know what to do about it
[11:10] <[swb] > linux_ more importantly do ps aux | grep ftp
[11:10] <linux_> swb, yes grep 21, those were the results
[11:10] <spider-pig> how can I install this package trought apt-get? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kopete-silc-plugin
[11:10] <bern> wolferine, how do i tell? i dont know what to look for in xorg.conf..
[11:10] <spider-pig> [swb] , :D
[11:10] <[swb] > linux_, yeah it was a bad instruction, cause lots of things will have 21 in them
[11:10] <lns> Is there a way to get the (better) "Users and Groups" manager in Edubuntu installed for Ubuntu?
[11:10] <[swb] > that arent what you are interested in
[11:10] <jrib> alexandre_: the last link gives an alternate url, edit /var/lib/dpkg/bcm43xx-fwcutter.postinst  and use the new url then reconfigure the package
[11:10] <[swb] > 'yes fox advertise in movies now'
[11:10] <jrib> alexandre_: s/link/comment
[11:11] <linux_> swb, here is the report: 7867  0.0  0.0   2884   764 pts/0    S+   17:06   0:00 grep ftp
[11:11] <Andeh> Is anyone here having problems with skype, or is it just me?
[11:11] <felipepro> hola
[11:11] <[swb] > Andeh, everyone
[11:11] <phiqtion> hola
[11:11] <felipepro> quien habla espaol?
[11:11] <[swb] > http://www.theregister.com/2007/08/16/skype_down/
[11:11] <Andeh> [swb] : Oh
[11:11] <jrib> !es | felipepro
[11:11] <ubotu> felipepro: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:11] <[swb] > Andeh, read that url
[11:12] <wolferine> bern, look for the word driver?
[11:12] <Andeh> okay
[11:12] <Andeh> thanks
[11:12] <[swb] > well it wont tell you anything, besides that skype is broken
[11:12] <bern> wolferine, under the "Device" section.. it says Driver: "nv"
[11:12] <[swb] > linux_, this means the ftp server is not actively running
[11:12] <wolferine> bern, so the restricted drivers may have installed, but you need to allow the xorg.conf to use the 'nvidia' driver
[11:13] <[swb] > start it with /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[11:13] <bern> wolferine, so i change it from "nv" to "nvidia"/
[11:13] <[swb] > (I think)
[11:13] <rein> driver should be nvidia
[11:13] <rein> yea
[11:13] <rein> bern correct
[11:13] <RaZer0r> wth, who took my nick
[11:13] <[swb] > linux_, after running that, do the ps.... again and see if there is anything in the results besides the grep line
[11:13] <wolferine> bern, well, if you X fails on reboot ( u will have to restart X for the xorg.conf to take), you will need to change it back to nv, but yes, try using nvidia
[11:13] <arkive> when using "Connect to Server..." under Places where is the filesystem mounted?
[11:13] <linux_> swb, i got permission denied, how can I pass that?
[11:14] <[swb] > if not, there is probably a copnfiguration issue and the logs in /var/log/ftp or whatever will tell you, possibly /var/log/daemon.log
[11:14] <[swb] > linux_, whack sudo in front of it :D
[11:14] <RaZer0r> bern just use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart instead of a full reboot
[11:14] <chalcedny> [swb]  can you *only* get me directory names somehow? it's found every instance of court and law .. way too much *sigh*
[11:14] <wolferine> bern, press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X
[11:14] <bern> wolferine, alright.. and if nothing works then.. then what should i do?
[11:14] <wolferine> once you have changed the xorg.conf (this will disconnect you from IRC)
[11:15] <alexandre_> jrib:  s/link/comment <- what is this
[11:15] <RaZer0r> damn this chan is overcrowded
[11:15] <wolferine> bern, I explained that already
[11:15] <jrib> alexandre_: it just means I made a typo, I meant to say "comment" instead of "link" before
[11:15] <[swb] > chalcedny, hmm, there is probably a way....
[11:15] <RaZer0r> bern, if it shouldn't work: change it back to nv
[11:15] <[swb] > I dont know it offhand
[11:15] <linux_> swb, this is what I get : Starting ftp server proftpd                                                                                                               - IPv4 getaddrinfo 'linuxman' error: No address associated with hostname
[11:15] <linux_>  - warning: unable to determine IP address of 'linuxman'
[11:15] <linux_>  - error: no valid servers configured
[11:15] <linux_>  - Fatal: error processing configuration file '/etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf'
[11:15] <[swb] > someone else in here probably does
[11:15] <wolferine> !pastebin | linux_,
[11:15] <ubotu> linux_,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:15] <bern> RaZer0r, how do i change it back. if im unable to see anything?
[11:15] <chalcedny> [swb] : thank you a lot for trying so hard.
[11:15] <felipepro> necesito ayuda
[11:16] <[swb] > hur, dont mention it
[11:16] <bern> if X doesnt work, would that mean i would be unable to start the session. or itll beblank?
[11:16] <chalcedny> Does anyone know how to find directory names in your home directory?
[11:16] <linux_> sorry bout that
[11:16] <wolferine> bern, seems your seeking help elsewhere, good luck
[11:16] <wolferine> chairman, ls -la ?
[11:16] <felipepro> alguien que hable espaol
[11:16] <jrib> chalcedny: only directory names that contain the word law or court?
[11:16] <wolferine> chalcedny, man grep ?
[11:16] <jrib> felipepro: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:16] <wolferine> ops
[11:16] <alexandre_> jrib: i cant find the file,sorry i'm new to linux
[11:16] <praet> chalcedny: change the type to d and it will only show directories: find ~/ -type d -print0 | xargs -0 grep -iE "law|court"|less
[11:16] <wolferine> sorry chairman
[11:16] <RaZer0r> bern you can change it back using console
[11:16] <chalcedny> wolferine: i have court tomorrow, i can't read all of man grep
[11:17] <RaZer0r> alt + ctrl + F1
[11:17] <jrib> alexandre_: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[11:17] <linux_> swb, I am sorry, I have to go. I should have blocked out mor etime for this. Thank you very much for your help. I hope to see you on again and we can continue.
[11:17] <[swb] > chalcedny, I have it
[11:17] <[swb] > man find to the rescue!
[11:17] <wolferine> chalcedny, explain what you want to do exactly
[11:17] <RaZer0r> lolz
[11:17] <RaZer0r> great, but way too crowded
[11:17] <chalcedny> [swb] : kewl
[11:18] <chalcedny> wolferine: i need to find wherever i saved the lawyer letters to
[11:18] <jrib> chalcedny: why don't you grep for his name...?
[11:18] <enigmaa> hello, i just installed ubuntu server on my computer, how to i load KDE on it?
[11:18] <chalcedny> enigmaa: do i know you? :)
[11:18] <wolferine> chalcedny, grep -r 'word_in_a_file" * while in ~
[11:18] <[swb] > chalcedny do find . -type d | grep search string
[11:18] <enigmaa> chalcedny hey :)
[11:18] <[swb] > where search string is what you want to search for
[11:19] <[swb] > -type d means only find directories
[11:19] <RaZer0r> enigmaa, why do you want X on a server?
[11:19] <KarL0s> im using a hda ati sb450 card  and i cant get any sound  could you help? i want to get it to work
[11:19] <[swb] > chalcedny, I found this out by reading man, suggest you do the same when you get stuck, man command
[11:19] <[swb] > :)
[11:19] <Andeh> oh cool, skype works now...
[11:19] <chalcedny> [swb] : ty ive been trying for years to read those
[11:19] <Andeh> :)
[11:19] <enigmaa> razer0r well, its my home server, i would like to mess around with it and learn
[11:20] <[swb] > heh they arent too user firendly
[11:20] <eretico_scumunic> i've got a dualboot (with windowsd) installation problem - installation hangs with no error at step 6 of 8 : detecting file systems
[11:20] <kilomang> UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
[11:20] <enigmaa> how do i update my system for starters? its plugged in to the internet
[11:20] <JRsup1> Can anyone suggest a *CHEAP* PCI SATA card I can get that will work with Ubuntu 6.10?
[11:20] <RaZer0r> enigmaa, server should be text based all the way ;)
[11:21] <wolferine> enigmaa, sudo aptitude update
[11:21] <RaZer0r> dang i'm still used to apt-get
[11:21] <eretico_scumunic> it happens for ubuntu (latest) as wel as xubuntu
[11:22] <fuzzy> neat, can i get help for ubuntu here?
[11:22] <Andeh> what's better, aptitude or apt-get?
[11:22] <Andeh> fuzzy: Yes.
[11:22] <jrib> !apt > enigmaa (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:22] <spider-pig> hi guys, how can I install this package trought apt-get? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kopete-silc-plugin
[11:22] <RaZer0r> Andeh, aptitude is better
[11:22] <Andeh> RaZer0r: How come?
[11:22] <Andeh> In what ways?
[11:22] <pbugni> is there a way to query apt for which package brought in a file on the filesystem?
[11:22] <jrib> pbugni: dpkg -S FILE
[11:22] <fuzzy> so i just installed ubuntu and im a linux newbie. ,i dont have sound, ALC260 realtek, anyone know what i do?
[11:23] <RaZer0r> better in finding solutions with corrupt packages
[11:23] <pbugni> thanks jrib
[11:24] <KarL0s> im using a hda ati sb450 card  and i cant get any sound  could you help? i want to get it to work
[11:24] <RaZer0r> and when u uninstall packages it will check if the other packages which have been installed with the main package are still needed, if not uninstalls them too
[11:24] <RaZer0r> hda ati sb450...
[11:24] <RaZer0r> wth
[11:24] <fuzzy> so if i find the drivers for my sound card (realtek alc260) how do i install them?
[11:24] <RaZer0r> hda = hard disk, ati = graphics
[11:24] <praet> chalcedny: any luck?
[11:25] <RaZer0r>  sb450 = ??
[11:25] <KarL0s> high definition audio
[11:25] <RaZer0r> hmmz
[11:25] <eretico_scumunic> is there a specific forum for installation problems?
[11:25] <RaZer0r> manufacturer?
[11:25] <KarL0s> ati
[11:25] <RaZer0r> checking
[11:25] <KarL0s> okk
[11:26] <chalcedny> praet: i found directory names and got inside one that says court :)
[11:26] <chalcedny> bad part.. i probably made this 5 years ago
[11:26] <chalcedny> but we found the right way to find it :)
[11:26] <chalcedny> praet: ty much :))
[11:26] <reign> hi guys, how can I install this package trought apt-get? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/kopete-silc-plugin
[11:26] <chalcedny> thank you all a LOT :)
[11:27] <praet> chalcedny: if grep choked then you probably have a few thousand files in there
[11:27] <Ahadiel> reign, Search for it? apt-cache search kopete-silc
[11:27] <chalcedny> praet: at least
[11:27] <Ahadiel> reign, if it's there, then install it
[11:27] <chalcedny> it's too much for a gui
[11:27] <fuzzy> how can i install my soundcard driver (alc260) i found it on google but its a bunch of confusing
[11:28] <skinnypuppy1334> How do you retreive an html file from firefox cache?
[11:28] <reign> Ahadiel, no results
[11:28] <Ahadiel> reign, Do a 'sudo apt-get update' first and see if it's there
[11:28] <ShaneN> Anyone have any idea when apache2-ssl-certificate is going to be bundled back into ubuntu again? Making these things by hand really sucks...
[11:28] <chalcedny> praet: it drives finders mad.
[11:28] <praet> skinnypuppy1334: about:cache
[11:29] <fuzzy> is there a easy way to get sound working on my laptop with ubuntu in it?
[11:29] <praet> skinnypuppy1334: then click the list to search through
[11:29] <reign> root@cpd04:~# apt-cache search kopete-silc
[11:29] <reign> root@cpd04:~#
[11:29] <reign> Ahadiel, nothing
[11:29] <Ahadiel> reign, Just download the .deb from that link you have.
[11:30] <reign> I tried, but the dependency hell is killing me
[11:30] <Ahadiel> if it's not in apt-cache, then it's not in any of the repos you have
[11:30] <steffex> hey
[11:30] <reign> Ahadiel, how can I add the debian/unstable repository?
[11:30] <Ahadiel> manually install the dependencies?...
[11:30] <chalcedny> how would i find files from mail like : ./marcus.cur/mail/ filename /cur or /new /tem ??
[11:30] <PriceChild> reign, don't do that on ubuntu
[11:30] <reign> Ahadiel, Is a tons of dependencies
[11:30] <skinnypuppy1334> Praet, thanks!!!
[11:30] <steffex> do somone know how to get a server to work??
[11:31] <nanonyme> hey, was gutsy the current testing branch in ubuntu?
[11:31] <reign> PriceChild, I want to deal with the risk
[11:31] <PriceChild> nanonyme, yes and will be stable in #ubutnu+1
[11:31] <PriceChild> reign, "no"
[11:31] <Mike22e> wolferine, hi
[11:31] <dxdt> steffex: you are going to have to be a little more specific.  You basically just said "problem"
[11:31] <PriceChild> nanonyme, #ubuntu+1 sorry
[11:31] <jrib> reign: don't add debian repos unless you know what you are doing... you are likely to end up with a broken system.  If you really want the package, grab the source package and try rebuilding it on ubuntu
[11:31] <wolferine> do I know you Mike22e ?
[11:31] <nanonyme> i just moved to it a while ago. hoping it will solve my wifi problems with bcm43xx
[11:31] <fuzzy> how can i get my sound working on my laptop? the sound card has a ALC260 name to it
[11:31] <Mike22e> wolferine, its Bern.. i tried and X wasnt working. so i edited the xorg.conf back to "nv" and its still not working. any suggestions?
[11:32] <nanonyme> or actually am still moving. takes quite a while to dist-upgrade...
[11:32] <reign> jrib, I know what I do, I just forget the src line
[11:32] <praet> fuzzy: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197224
[11:32] <ThatGuy> hello
[11:32] <fuzzy> thx
[11:32] <ThatGuy> does anyone know how to format hard drives in ubuntu?
[11:32] <wolferine> Mike22e, wants the X error?
[11:32] <jrib> ThatGuy: gparted is the nice gui way
[11:32] <ThatGuy> ok thanks
[11:33] <nanonyme> i prefer shell commands for that myself
[11:33] <reign> I'm tired of people telling me to not put the debian rep in my sources. I don't want to ear about it, I just want the debian src line. If i'm wrong, I can deal with consequencies
[11:33] <chalcedny> can anyone tell me how to get to mutt files in ubuntu?
[11:33] <chalcedny> reign: i can sympathise
[11:33] <dxdt> reign: then just go into #debian and ask for someone's apt file--say you aciddentaly killed yours
[11:34] <nanonyme> wow, kinky utf-8 smiley
[11:34] <reign> dxdt, they not want to give me the line for the unstable rep
[11:34] <skinnypuppy1334> Praet, if it says file on disk none is it unretreivable?
[11:34] <jazz_> hi
[11:34] <reign> I feel lika a 3-old boy
[11:34] <reign> And I very upset with it
[11:34] <nanonyme> reign: they probably have a howto for it on the net
[11:34] <nanonyme> google
[11:34] <dxdt> reign: you can probbaly find it on google
[11:35] <Mike22e> wolferine, it says, failed to start the X server. it is likely that it is not setup correctly. would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[11:35] <nanonyme> official channels usually tell you to stick with stable or at least testing
[11:35] <reign> I go find out
[11:35] <praet> chalcedny: look in your home mail folder : ~/Mail
[11:35] <wolferine> Mike22e, put it on pastebin please
[11:35] <wolferine> !pastebin | Mike22e
[11:35] <ubotu> Mike22e: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:35] <dxdt> Mike22e: Read the log, it will probably be a pretty simple thing to fix.
[11:36] <christian> When I write 'wine example.exe' It wont work, help?
[11:36] <phiqtion> !repositories
[11:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:36] <praet> skinnypuppy1334: no, just click on the key link above and it should pull it out
[11:36] <peeps_work> help I can't get suspend to work!
[11:36] <phiqtion> !easysource
[11:36] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:36] <wolferine> peeps_work, what happens when you suspend?
[11:36] <Mike22e> wolferine, im not able to copy and paste it anywhere.. its stuck in the terminal..
[11:36] <phiqtion> what are the most common repositories used???
[11:36] <PriceChild> !easysource | phiqtion
[11:36] <wolferine> Mike22e, this on another system, then the one your using?
[11:36] <ubotu> phiqtion: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:37] <peeps_work> wolferine, well, it suspends, but when I come back up X is restarted and all my open apps are lost.  also, after resume from suspend, the wifi won't work
[11:37] <dxdt> Mike22e: yeah just read through the log and look for errors and stuff at the bottom.  It will probably be something you missed like a typo.  I would actually just go back in and check everything using a text editor like vim or nano
[11:37] <Mike22e> wolferine, yes
[11:37] <jrib> hmm
[11:37] <med_> hi
[11:37] <phiqtion> pricechild: thx
[11:37] <Mike22e> wolferine, on the other system the X server is not working.
[11:37] <wolferine> Mike22e, if you enter the 'nv' driver, you should be able to enter X again
[11:37] <eretico_scumunic> could someone help me sorting out this dualboot installation problem - the installation hangs at 15% (both ubuntu and xubuntu) at 'detecting file systems'
[11:38] <wolferine> peeps_work, so its logging out, rather than suspending?
[11:38] <chalcedny> praet: ty muchly :)
[11:38] <Mike22e> wolferine, yeah i did, and it still wont start X.. i think i foudn the problem though
[11:38] <wolferine> Mike22e, yeah, if you read it, it should give you the reason
[11:38] <peeps_work> wolferine, well, it suspends, I mean the fans power down and screen goes off, but when I wake it, yes it has logged out
[11:39] <Mike22e> its cause every 5 second an error comes up, its like 20 characters long.. and i think while i was editing the Xorg.conf in nano it outputed that error. and it got saved in the text somewhere
[11:39] <skinnypuppy1334> Praet, when I click on the key for that title it shows fetch count, last fetch mod expiration data size and file on disk none
[11:39] <wolferine> peeps_work, sorry, not sure if there is anything i can do
[11:39] <chalcedny> praet: ~$ cd ~/Mail
[11:39] <chalcedny> bash: cd: /home/llhull/Mail: No such file or directory
[11:39] <chalcedny> ~$
[11:39] <jrib> k, should work after you download that file then
[11:39] <Mike22e> wolferine, yeah, X works now
[11:39] <eretico_scumunic> :-(:-(:-(:-(
[11:39] <peeps_work> wolferine, but if I try to hibernate(I still don't really know what the difference is supposed to be), it goes really crazy.  Get all these multicolored vertical lines pulsing in and out and making crazy patterns, and I think eventually the pattern stops changing, but doesn't shut down
[11:39] <eretico_scumunic> :-(:-(:-(
[11:39] <wolferine> Mike22e, then post the error for X on pastebin then :)
[11:40] <praet> skinnypuppy1334: then on _that_ page, click the link
[11:40] <wolferine> good luck peeps_work
[11:40] <xeer> i'm looking to install ubuntu server edition on my server.. thing is that there is no monitor, input device, optical drive.. i will be pxe installing it and hoping i can go through the install process through a shell.. is this possible?
[11:40] <peeps_work> thanks :-/
[11:40] <skinnypuppy1334> Oh gotcha, it shows the page as it is today, it's been edited since yesterday... what I'm trying to retrieve from cache
[11:41] <mneptok> !info liblockfile
[11:41] <ubotu> Package liblockfile does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:41] <praet> chalcedny: is there ~/mail in the users home dir? I would 'ls -al' so show hidden dirs and check for .mail .mutt etc
[11:41] <mneptok> !info liblockfile1
[11:41] <ubotu> liblockfile1: NFS-safe locking library, includes dotlockfile program. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:41] <mneptok> grr
[11:42] <chalcedny> ty praet :)
[11:42] <chalcedny> i don't really have time to do very much right now
[11:42] <peeps_work> oo.org won't load my documents anymore.  I double click them and I see the splash screen but nothing happens
[11:43] <[swb] > peeps_work, try remove your .openoffice folders if you can stand to lose your settings
[11:43] <christian> When I write 'wine example.exe' It wont work, what to do?
[11:43] <boo> hi
[11:45] <suupaabaka> Is anyone here familiar with divx/xvid/matroska codecs and video players?
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> christian: try putting the path.. so it will look like this.. wine "path/to/file/file.exe"  include the quotes
[11:45] <RaZer0r> supamatt, a but
[11:45] <supamatt> ???
[11:46] <RaZer0r> what's the question?
 supamatt, a but
[11:46] <the_walrus> Hi, I've got a USB wifi adapter, I was wondering if its possible to turn my ubuntu box into a WAP. I've had a bit of a search, but am a bit lost at this point in time, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:46] <higgylm> hi i am  looking for the glib development packages and can't find them, can u help?
[11:46] <christian> IndyGunFreak: I don't know what I'm gonna set in the different ///
[11:46] <RaZer0r> a bit * :p
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> christian: well, then thats likely your problem, your terminal isn't in the right directory to see the file.
[11:47] <the_walrus> higgylm, try libglib2.0-dev
[11:47] <boo> anyone can help me ? i've installed ubuntu on my laptop. all work fine, but when i plug my audio helmet the sound has played on speaker and helmet. (my soundcard module is intel-hda-snd)
[11:47] <higgylm> thanks
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> christian: do this, type wine(then one space)...     then drag the file into the terminal, and it will put the path there for you.. so it will look like i did above.
[11:48] <christian> IndyGunFreak: I know, but where can I see what map and so on the exe. file is in so I can see what I'm gonna but in the different ///
[11:48] <christian> aight, will try that
[11:48] <SeriousStorm85> Hi, I enabled my Beryl theme but I lost my Window frame...how do I get it back
[11:49] <phiqtion> any guide on how-to the latest compiz version?
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> !compiz
[11:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:49] <suupaabaka> SeriousStorm85: I used Beryl for a while, but I found that it caused more problems than it was worth.
[11:49] <phiqtion> sorry, wrong chan
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> suupaabaka: not really, beryl works fine for me.
[11:49] <christian> IndyGunFreak: That work's! Tnx for the tip. =)
[11:50] <SeriousStorm85> suupaabka: thanks for the advice.... :-0
[11:50] <GigaClon> !worksforme
[11:50] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> christian: no problem, like i said, the problem was, your terminal was not in the right directory to see the .exe file.
[11:50] <suupaabaka> IndyGunFreak: Really? It mucked up everything from my opera status bar to my video.
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> suupaabaka: it works perfect for me, dual displays and all.
[11:51] <jakub__> hey.which command shows me the current time?
[11:51] <the_walrus> date
[11:51] <suupaabaka> IndyGunFreak: Do you think it's because I use an Intel graphics chipset? I tried for a week to fix it before I gave up.
[11:51] <Branden> i have just install ubuntu and now i am getting grub error 17 at boot.  How do i go about fixing this on that computer
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> suupaabaka: my laptop has intel 915, and beryl runs fine on it also.
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> Branden: have you tried to google Grub 17?... its getting pretty common..
[11:52] <jakub__> thanks
[11:53] <Branden> IndyGunFreak: Yeah i am fishing through some forums right now
[11:53] <suupaabaka> !compiz
[11:53] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:53] <joebob777as7> hey i want to create a tar file with the date in the name automatically for use with a cron job for backups... can someone help?
[11:53] <IndyGunFreak> Branden: how is your current hardware setup, and how did you install Ubuntu?
[11:54] <suupaabaka> IndyGunFreak: You've given me hope :P. I really liked the effects, but it seemed very unstable. Have you ever experienced any problems with it?
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> suupaabaka: i had some minor problems on my PC, that got worked out by someone in #ubuntu-effects
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> no title bar, windows locked, etc.
[11:54] <boo> anyone can help me for enabling jack (sound output) support on my laptop (linux ubuntu feisty) ?
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> suupaabaka: but my laptop, no, i've had no issues at all, it worked out of the box.
[11:55] <Branden> ide hd with two windows partitions, ide hd with one windows partition and this newly installed ubuntu 7.04.  Installed from the latest cd.  athlon thunderbird 1.0 ghz.  Do you need specs on the mb?
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> !sound | boo
[11:55] <ubotu> boo: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:55] <suupaabaka> IndyGunFreak: Cool, thanks. I'll give it another whirl I suppose.
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> Branden: i suspect what happened(just guessing), is Grub was installed to the wrong drive.  Try goign to your bios, and changing the boot order of the drives.
[11:56] <Branden> IndyGunFreak: I think i tried that.  I will try it again, maybe it didnt save my settings
[11:56] <IndyGunFreak> Branden: are you on a RAID with those two drives
[11:58] <shk> can anyone tell me the simplest way to share a desktop in ubuntu?
[11:58] <andre_pl> where do I configure my multimedia keys in gnome?
[11:58] <andre_pl> they work, but I want to customize it
[11:59] <IndyGunFreak> Branden: you still there?
[12:00] <wolferine> shk, what do you mean by share a desktop?
[12:00] <dorota> does anyone know a good resource for guides on programming in lisp?
[12:00] <Branden> IndyGunFreak: yeah
[12:00] <wolferine> dorota, is there a lisp channel, if not, maybe try efnet?
[12:00] <IndyGunFreak> Branden: are you on a raid?
[12:00] <dorota> wolferine: ok
[12:00] <shk> wolferine, like windows has netmeeting, hamachi, pcanywhere, etc that allow other people to control a desktop
[12:00] <Branden> IndyGunFreak: it was trying to boot the correct drive, the other drive prompts me to reboot.  No i am not on raid