=== lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] NIght === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:45] night all === apachelogger__ [n=me@N753P009.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] wtf, [01:10] I cant play ogg movies? [01:14] Mez: not in Windows you can't, reboot back into Kubuntu :p [01:14] nixternal.. I'm USING Kubuntu[ [01:15] hahaha [01:15] am trying to watch a Theora + Voris vid and I only get sound [01:15] no video === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549570E8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === innovati__ [n=innovati@bas1-kingston08-1177768609.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-025.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosredna_ekim [n=michael@03-025.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === killown [n=killown@unaffiliated/killown] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:01] hi [02:02] hello [02:02] how do I to set flags optimization gcc in apt-build sources packages? [02:02] I want build with it flags : -O3 -march=prescott -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe [02:02] debian/rules << http://rafb.net/p/hKbKd144.html [02:03] I need set flags for optmization [02:03] can anyone help-me? [02:04] killown: check #ubuntu-motu [02:12] anything i should know before installing gutsy on my laptop? [02:16] nixternal, ty === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-67-36-62-55.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] looks like gutsy is back to dapper colors... [02:53] hehe [02:53] getting there [02:54] bloooo is nice though [02:54] I did like the purple for a bit though === robotgeek reinstalls feisty [02:57] ouch === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-126.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal kicks 'qmake-qt4 DESTIR=. *.pro' [02:58] well, just removing kubuntu desktop to get rid of all the backports i installed === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-025.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-025.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-025.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@123.115.245.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] 0450 -!- Irssi: Join to #kubuntu-devel was synced in 168860 secs [03:53] real nice [03:53] actually, that counter has been running around ages so it's far more than that [03:58] is the interface for strigi going to be improved before release? [04:06] and looks like something's causing wineconfig to fail to launch adept_batch [04:06] do i need to patch it to use kdesudo? === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.241.135] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:51] so, does this new Canonical Store plan on selling Kubuntu stuff at all? [04:51] hrmm, probably doesn't matter as it seems to ship to the UK only === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:03] nixternal: how many people should i had to vouch for me? [05:03] nixternal: how many would be a good amount === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-68-62-216-83.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-126.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@123.115.245.224] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@adsl-64-237-198-152.prtc.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === emonkey [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ijuz__ [n=ijuz@p54ABDA33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:57] Riddell: http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/nixternal/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qdbusbridge/qdbusbridge_4.3.1~svn20070816-0ubuntu1.dsc [06:58] probably needs some work === Shely [n=Sea@60.20.54.67] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Stecchino [n=bart@fireext.wenk.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger__ is now known as apachelogger === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DBCD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === apachelogger_ [n=me@N732P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495691D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEFF42.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:42] nixternal: seen post from Eddie Martinez on ubuntu-doc list? === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@p548D9C48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:58] nixternal: someone decided to delete the linuxmce article from fridge, I've posted it again, please publish it when you get a moment === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === never|mobi [n=neversfe@p548DB3E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] <\sh> Riddell, the uwn issue 52 was deleted too [10:24] <\sh> hmmm [10:24] \sh: if you have a copy of it I can re-submit [10:24] <\sh> Riddell, I wonder if it was purpose because of the hack story inside [10:24] it's still there [10:25] <\sh> yesterday evening it wasn't there anymore [10:26] <\sh> and it was readded around 22:42 utc ... [10:26] <\sh> hmmm...i don't find a statusbar for a mainwindow anymore in qt4-designer [10:26] <\sh> where is it hiding nowadays? [10:34] <\sh> ah..it's already there === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor_ [n=renate@p57AEDE57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pgquiles [n=pgquiles@118.Red-83-38-36.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:38] <\sh> is someone working on krusader 1.80.0 final? [11:40] <\sh> ah already synced === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.241.135] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEE3F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:40] mhb: loaded up the kubuntu CD and I get a message saying "restricted drivers are available", does that popup on the ubuntu live CD too? [01:41] it says it's for "lirc_gpio", but there's no description of what that could mean, which is quite a usability issue [01:41] it turns out to be an infrared thing [01:42] but that's quite hard to find [01:42] had a feeling it was, but some description would seem appropriate === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:13] nixternal: did you have a docs update? can it get in for tribe 5? [02:13] I wonder how to add a link to the live cd desktop === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-013-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:23] mhb: restricted-manager (gnome) doesn't even have an autostart file, why is that different? [02:33] nixternal: it'll need a change in casper to get the about kubuntu onto the live desktop, are you able to come up with a suitable .desktop file and have that somewhere so it can be copied to the desktop === kwwii_ is now known as kwwii === Riddell throws bug 133140 at mhb [02:37] Launchpad bug 133140 in restricted-manager "kubuntu live CD has popup on startup" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133140 [02:38] and bug 133141, for good luck :) [02:38] Launchpad bug 133141 in restricted-manager "no description of driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133141 [02:49] Riddell: Sorry to be a pest about Zekr, but not so sorry I'm not going to ask... It's still sitting in a "Failed to upload" state. Is there someone else I should go ping about the package? [02:56] ScottK: someone who knows more about soyuz than I, infinity maybe, but he's ill today [02:57] OK. Not him then. Would Mithrandir be a good person to ask? [02:57] That or I can just wait. [02:59] mithrandir is generally busy with mobile these days [02:59] give infinity an e-mail === vprints [n=laur@213-35-242-198-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] OK. I'll do that. Thanks. [03:10] Riddell: lirc is needed for mythtv [03:10] Riddell: I agree that we should not warn for this === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387ED3A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:11] Lure_: well not on the live CD, and only once on the installed desktop [03:12] Riddell: yep, but I am not sure if this is general HW and users care about it [03:23] jjesse: icon for strigi? [03:23] there isn't one [03:24] the magnifying glass that is next to system, kontact, kopote, konqi? [03:24] i have one in my gutsy install [03:25] I don't [03:25] and neither does my live CD [03:25] hmmm must be something i've done to my system then [03:25] what happens when you click on it? [03:25] launch strigi [03:25] is it the same size as the kmenu/system/desktop icon? [03:25] looks like a magnifying glass [03:25] larger [03:25] that's large [03:25] let me fire up my vm and i'll do a screenshot [03:26] what strigi client does it launch? the qt 4 one? [03:26] firing up vm [03:30] best place to put the screenshots? [03:31] anywhere you like :) [03:31] Riddell: I think strigi is qt4-only, right? [03:31] strigi-client is, strigi-applet and strigi kioslave is kde 3 === apachelogger [n=me@N732P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N732P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:44] jjesse: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/strigi1.png that's your doing I'm sure [03:44] it's also the same size as the kmenu/system/desktop icons === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:44] I'd like to have strigi have a systray applet [03:44] figured it was my doing [03:45] but it also needs to learn how to start automatically (when the user tell it that's ok) [03:50] it is starting automatically for me, must have enabled it some how which created the icon? [03:51] jjesse: so if you search there, it comes up with results? [03:51] yeah it does [03:51] groovy :) === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@unaffiliated/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:52] when i type in "key" it shows results, plus a tab called images, and then a tab called web [03:52] on the tab called images i have 3 results [03:53] and then web there is 236 results -- which are all the ubuntu-docs xml files that have the word key in it === Stecchino [n=bart@fireext.wenk.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:55] so it does, I've no idea what those tabs do [03:56] manchicken: are you going to chicarco lug tonight? [03:56] Nope. Why do you ask? [03:56] I'm about 150 miles south of them. [03:56] dude on ubuntu-docs asking about kubuntu may be going [03:56] ah well, that's a bit far [03:56] Ah. [03:57] Well he's in good company. [03:57] I know those guys rather well. === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:13] Riddell: what to do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/28532 [04:13] Launchpad bug 28532 in kdenetwork "rdp:/ urls don't work in Kubuntu default install" [Wishlist,New] === apachelogger got a debdiff at hand, making krdc depend on rdesktop [04:15] Riddell: how many approvals from users should i have? [04:15] Riddell: whats a good number? [04:15] coreymon77: 42 [04:15] Hobbsee: realistically [04:15] apachelogger: krdc does things without rdesktop? [04:15] coreymon77: well, as i've got no idea what you're talking about... :) [04:16] coreymon77: as many as you feel appropriate, of course exsting members and motu and devs will be given higher recognition than hoards of people we've never heard of [04:17] Riddell: yes, but if we don't make it depend, the error message should at least be changed to something more meaningful [04:17] apachelogger: we could just add rdesktop to the seeds [04:17] ive got two members and one user so far [04:18] Riddell: the what? [04:18] apachelogger: the seeds, which are used to make kubuntu-desktop package [04:18] hm [04:19] yeah, actually that sounds even more reasonable :D === apachelogger debdiffs again [04:19] if you don't have rdesktop installed i think you can use krdc for vnc connections [04:20] apachelogger: added [04:20] Riddell: hehe, thanks, gotta close the bug then [04:21] jjesse: yep, but the message it throws out if one trys to access rdp is just awful IMO [04:21] apachelogger: i agree === \sh is now known as \sh_away [04:40] was bugg #28532 actually fix released or was it just fix committed? [04:40] bug #28532 [04:40] Launchpad bug 28532 in kdenetwork "rdp:/ urls don't work in Kubuntu default install" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28532 [04:41] committed [04:41] but if someone wants to update the meta package, voila [04:44] hm [04:44] really, starting with backports is awful === Riddell does it [04:44] starting what? [04:44] how to do backports in the most proper way [04:45] Riddell: say I have a gutsy package... I change the version to ~feisty1, ultimately it builds without problems on feisty... but what to do then? [04:46] file a bug on launchpad.net/feisty-backports [04:46] ask jdong to confirm it [04:46] he'll subscribe ubuntu-archive [04:46] Or me [04:46] or ScottK [04:46] an archive admin will backport it [04:46] ok [04:46] if it needs to pass New I'll probably get to it one day [04:47] ^_^ [04:48] Riddell: btw, congrats to archive admin status :) [04:49] all your packages are belong to me [04:49] yes, but all the pointy sticks belong to ME!!! === Hobbsee stabs Riddell with one of the pointy sticks. [04:50] !logs [04:50] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [04:50] omg [04:50] see if I ever let any of your packages through New in future! === apachelogger creates pbuilders for feisty and edgy backports [04:51] Riddell: i'll just ask tollef to do them. that's easy [04:51] Riddell: or piit [04:51] er, pitti [04:53] humph === Hobbsee hugs Riddell [04:53] poor Riddell :) [04:54] Riddell: you were lucky you didnt come near tollef and myself at the castle dinner thing. [04:54] sorry, palace [04:54] why's that? [04:54] Riddell: oh, tollef and i had collected a nice pile of toothpicks, and were pokign people with them. [04:55] robert (racarr) in particular [04:55] ouch, poor guy === apachelogger_ [n=me@N755P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wont admit to how many times she may, or may not have, attacked him. [04:58] Riddell: was there anything interesting in the kubuntu meeting, btw? i never got to read it, and logs dont exist [04:59] apachelogger became a member [04:59] didn't someone do minutes? [04:59] not that i've seen [05:00] tsk [05:00] oh [05:00] mhb did, didn't he? [05:00] i blame nixternal [05:00] !nixternal [05:00] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! === apachelogger_ blames himself === Hobbsee blames jjesse for not blaming nixternal earlier [05:01] hm [05:01] what that _ might be [05:01] apachelogger: go away === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger [05:01] Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes/2007-08-01 [05:03] This point was not discussed due to the key person (Hobbsee) absent. [05:03] yeah, i'm slack [05:03] ooh! ooh! my wednesdays have changed now. [05:03] are they thursdays now or some other day? [05:03] oh wait, it's my thursdays that the meeting is on. [05:03] jjesse: i'd say on a tuesday for you, then. [05:04] Riddell: I think opensync and kdepim enterprise is not in Tribe5 (still waiting on build-dep and MIR for opensync) [05:07] mhb: you rock, thanks for that [05:07] Lure_: I moved opensync to main this morning [05:08] Riddell: great! [05:08] Riddell: when will build resolve then: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:3.5.7enterprise20070810-0ubuntu1/+build/375482 [05:09] dunno, hopefully it'll do it automatically, or infinity will come along and fix it soon [05:09] apachelogger: Don't forget Dapper. Dapper will be around after Edgy and Feisty are long gone. === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Disablez [i=ircap8@87.119.153.240] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:12] ScottK: lots of work I see -.- [05:12] Yep. === apachelogger tries to build amarok 147 on edgy [05:12] Actually Edgy seems pretty dead from a backports perspective, but Dapper is still active. === apachelogger kicks edgy again and starts all over again :P [05:13] ScottK: now, for amarok it's probably that I have to backport libs... what's the prefered solution? actually backport the libs or just remove the features (i.e. disable with configure) [05:14] It depends... [05:14] IIRC a lot of the media device libs were in universe for dapper [05:14] if they were available at all [05:14] If the libs have a lot of reverse dependencies, then it's tough to backport them because other stuff might break. [05:15] If they have few/no other reverse depends (and the others get tested and backported as necessary) then they can be backported. [05:15] Riddell: right, some buildd admin has to give it back [05:15] If they didn't exist at all, then it's a NEW backport and no problem. === Lure_ checks who they are... ;-) [05:15] ScottK: k, thx [05:16] Source backports (if you have to strip out features) can be done, but need a core-dev to upload them (even for Universe packages). [05:16] It's a separate backports bug for each package. === apachelogger saves the log ^_^ === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] Riddell: it surely does [06:12] Riddell: at least the file /usr/share/autostart/restricted-manager.desktop waas there when I did the changes [06:17] mhb: yes, I missed it somehow [06:17] mhb: however, it doesn't give me a popup on the ubuntu live CD [06:21] Riddell: that is interesting... [06:22] Riddell: pitti worked on that after the restructuring, but the code should be shared [06:22] I just wonder if it's turned off on the live CD somehow [06:22] Riddell: could you please check if both .desktop files have the same parameters? [06:23] the checking code should be shared by both frontends, it's in the common part of r-m [06:23] Exec=restricted-manager-kde --check [06:23] Exec=restricted-manager --check [06:23] ya, that is fine === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:25] Heya [06:28] Riddell: I honestly don't know how GNOME solves it [06:29] Riddell: I can investigate, or you can [06:29] Riddell: ya, I know about Eddie Martinez, he is a friend of mine here in Chicago. I do have an updated doc package as well..a .desktop file for the about-kubuntu would be easy to come up with [06:29] Riddell: where should the .desktop file go? [06:30] nixternal: anywhere really, it just need to be copied to the Desktop when the live CD boots [06:30] mhb: on the ubuntu live CD I boot up and it still has the r-m autostart file on the filesystem, and when I run it the applet pops up [06:30] so I don't know why it isn't autostarting [06:31] it also has no description of the driver at all === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-031.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:33] Riddell: it could be a bug in Ubuntu/GNOME [06:33] Riddell: or a feature, I am not sure [06:33] Riddell: added the story back to the fridge, sladen deleted it seems but then re-added but forgot to promote it [06:34] mhb: mm, I think gnome isn't reading that /usr/share/autostart directory [06:34] trackerd also has an entry in there, but it has a duplicate file in /etc/xdg/autostart [06:34] I think gnome only reads that one [06:35] mhb: so it sounds like that file should be moved for gnome, and casper should delete the autostart for the live CD === nosredna_ekim [n=michael@02-048.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:50] ScottK: I built kaffeine 0.8.5 for feisty, what to do now? debdiff and bug report? [06:51] Why is there a debdiff? [06:51] If it's the unmodified Gutsy source with a changelog entry, no need for it. [06:52] The archive admins have an automagic script that handles it. [06:52] ok === apachelogger reports a bug [06:53] apachelogger: In addition to reporting that it built and you tested it, please include the debian changelog entries since the Feisty version (like you would do for a sync request). === ScottK thinks https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/133034 is a very well formed backports bug. [06:53] Launchpad bug 133034 in feisty-backports "Please backport dkim-milter 1.2.0.dfsg-1ubuntu2 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress] [06:53] Of course I wrote it, so I would. [06:54] ^_^ === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:01] Riddell: kdepim does depwait due to typo s/libopensync-dev/libopensync0-dev/ === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:06] oo.org2.3 hasn't been fixed in kubuntu yet has it? i know about the work around [07:07] lontra: There is a patch. New OOO upload coming soon. [07:07] ScottK: great to hear ;) [07:08] ScottK: btw ... do you know anything about desktop effects in gutsy and whether they'll be default in kubuntu? === nosredna_ekim was wondering the same thing === jpatrick [n=patrick@50.Red-88-14-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:11] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/133178 [07:11] Launchpad bug 133178 in feisty-backports "Please backport kaffeine 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Undecided,New] [07:15] lontra: I don't. [07:15] apachelogger: Looking === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:16] *waiting for ScottK's opinion* :) [07:16] apachelogger: It also needs to say you've installed and tested it and it works. [07:16] tested is there I see now. [07:16] Just built and tested (with some help from #kubuntu-de). It builds/installs/and spreads it's love. [07:17] Right. I missed tested the first time I read it. [07:17] ;-) [07:18] apachelogger: See Bug #133178. [07:18] Launchpad bug 133178 in feisty-backports "Please backport kaffeine 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133178 [07:18] You need an archive admin now. Maybe Riddell will look at Bug #133034 at the same time ... [07:19] Launchpad bug 133034 in feisty-backports "Please backport dkim-milter 1.2.0.dfsg-1ubuntu2 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133034 [07:19] Mighty and generous master Riddell will surely do :D [07:20] ScottK: considering I would have to change something in the debian directy... then I would have to provide a debdiff, wouldn't I? === apachelogger is somwhat debdiff addicted lately [07:21] If it's otherwise good, you don't need a debdiff for changelog changes as the archive automagic script does that. [07:21] If it needs other changes you need the debdiff and a core-dev to upload it. [07:22] ok === apachelogger notes that in basket as well [07:23] Source backports are rare. [07:35] Riddell: /usr/share/applications for the about-kubuntu.desktop? [07:43] nixternal: no, maybe /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu but call it about-kubuntu.desktop.tobemoved [07:43] or something like that [07:48] it is called about-kubuntu.desktop right now...so rename it with the .tobemoved at the end === abcde_ [n=emss@d233-64-46-230.dnv.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:50] hello, installing kde4base-dev doesn't work, it complains missing package dbus-x11 [07:50] anyone how to fix? [07:52] This is on feisty-backports, right? [07:52] correct [07:53] abcde_: what version? [07:53] OK. You probably have a stale mirror. I newer version that didn't have that problem was uploaded several days ago. [07:54] ok [07:54] I just ran update again [07:54] but this time using aptitude [07:54] abcde_: Also answer Riddell's question. [07:55] what version? [07:55] kde4b1 [07:55] what the kubuntu page says to do [07:55] I'm running feisty here 7.04 [07:56] What's the entire version number? [07:57] well aptitude is download this right now libqt4-gui 4.3.0-4ubuntu1~feisty [07:59] kdepimlibs5 3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1 [07:59] ok this may work [07:59] these are all new packages [07:59] modified my /etc/apt/sources.list, this will probably work now, thanks :) [08:02] abcde_: I've backported a new version of kdelibs5 which should fix the issue, please try again in about 12 hours === luka74 [n=lure@89-212-18-142.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:06] Riddell: I think it would be safe just to have about-kubuntu.desktop in the khc kubuntu plugins dir, that way there we have about-kubuntu listed in khc as well...what do you think? [08:06] and then with casper, either link to it or copy it over [08:07] nixternal: I don't think it's the same thing [08:07] copy it to the desktop, I don't think you can just click on it and khelpcentre will pop up [08:08] hrmm..I will try it here and see what the outcome is...dunno if KHC or Konqi will open the help:/ link [08:08] it probably needs a .desktop file with Exec=khelpcentre help:/foo === luka74 is now known as Lure [08:10] do you want it to exec khelpcenter or konqi? [08:12] mm, good question [08:13] I'd say khelpentre, except it's UI is more cluttered than konqi [08:13] ya [08:21] a link to help:/kubuntu/about-kubuntu opens up in Konqi btw [08:22] make it an application type with khc in the exec if you want [08:25] dunno, I'll leave it up to you :) === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@223-214-dsl.kielnet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] pros/cons of KHC: you can see all of the documentation - pro :: it is messy - con [08:27] with Konqi it is clean, and you see only the about-kubuntu [08:28] but that can be fixed by directing them to KMenu->Help in the about-kubuntu doc [08:29] just got my 2 new Qt books! [08:29] oh, which books are they/ [08:29] ? === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] danimo's book and let me see the other one here === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:31] Qt 4 - The Art of Building Qt Application by Daniel Molkentin [08:31] Foundations of Qt Development by Johan Thelin [08:31] so now I have every Qt4 book on the market :) [08:34] i hate to ask a support question, but i can't remember how to do it: how do you renable the prompt on what you want to do w/ a usb disk? [08:36] support in #kubuntu ;) [08:36] no one responded [08:38] I know... I was being facetious. =) === ScarFreewill [n=sff@41.207.228.195] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] jjesse: hmm, I recall seeing it somewhere in system settings [08:39] does kwin's compositing work? [08:40] jjesse: system settings-> notifications [08:40] because if I set explosion under window effects nothing happens... [08:41] nosredna_ekim: [08:41] nosredna_ekim: thanks [08:41] NP, I actually didn't see your request in #kubuntu so its really my fault :) === lontra [n=lontra@c-75-72-235-37.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:45] nixternal: my Foundations one arrived today, the publishers sent it to me to review [08:45] boo you :) [08:46] I only paid like $30 for it [08:46] I got both books shipped for a little over $60, so that isn't bad at all === glatzor [n=renate@p57AEE3F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:58] OK, building updated docs package === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-149-196.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:12] someone can upload for me to multiverse? [09:14] apachelogger: Any MOTU can do it. The process is the same as for Universe. === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:15] ScottK: you're a motu, aren't you? :D [09:15] I am. I've also got a full plate today. [09:15] Ask in #ubuntu-motu or bug nixternal. He can do it too. [09:15] nixternal: pling pling [09:16] plong plong [09:16] nixternal: got a minute to upload a bugfix for me? === ScarFreewill [n=sff@41.207.228.195] has left #kubuntu-devel ["bottie"] [09:16] are we allowed to? what is the current freeze situation? [09:16] other than that, I can do it === apachelogger only knows freeze times he defines [09:17] and even those I can't remember ^_^ [09:17] nixternal: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/mozilla-mplayer/gutsy/ fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayerplug-in/+bug/112055 [09:17] Launchpad bug 112055 in mplayerplug-in "mozilla-mplayer won't play divx" [Undecided,New] [09:17] ScottK: are we allowed to upload the bug fix? [09:18] nixternal: The only thing that's frozed is new upstream versions. I new Ubuntu revision is no problem at all. [09:18] frozed/frozen... [09:18] gotcha [09:18] Although frozed sort of works too. [09:18] real quick, is it (Closes LP: #xxxx) or (LP: #xxxx) [09:19] nixternal: closes [09:19] yummy...I gotta fix that then on my docs package [09:19] the symlink generation file had a copy'n'paste error [09:19] ya, I can see that, so it was overwriting the -rm ones [09:20] nixternal: LP: [09:20] Closes: is debian. [09:20] ahh, thought so [09:20] apachelogger: you wanna fix that really quick and give me a debdiff? [09:20] The actual regex catches LP: #xxxx so either way works. [09:20] nixternal: in the directory [09:21] ScottK: so by him having (Closes LP: #xxx) he is good to go then? [09:21] http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/mozilla-mplayer/gutsy/debdiff_mplayerplug-in_3.40-5ubuntu5.diff [09:21] apachelogger: derr, ya I see it now :) [09:21] ^_^ [09:21] It'll work, yes. [09:21] I wouldn't make him re-upload it for that, but you may choose to be more pedantic at your discretion. === apachelogger notes to use LP for future versions [09:40] apachelogger: uploaded! [09:40] thanks [09:40] nixternal: thanks for uploading :) [09:43] mhb: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=787261&rl=1 [09:45] nosredna_ekim: for me? you shouldn't have .o) [09:46] haha [09:50] nosredna_ekim: is it somehow relevant to me? [09:50] mhb: you were just arguing that on your blog [09:50] looks like SOME people agree [09:51] 10 years gnome today, that would be a good date for gnome to stop the development >:-> [09:51] nosredna_ekim: ah yes, true :-) [09:52] nosredna_ekim: I haven't read it to the end before my question, reading the title I thought my UI would be mentioned there or something :o) [09:53] oh.... haha. nope... that hasn't been publicised yet. I was thinking about adding and enrty to my blog about it though. [10:13] Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/docs [10:14] let me look === mbiebl [n=michael@e180065034.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] I can say this about the Foundations book, give it to a beginner, and boy will they be lost :) [10:20] ooh, this system documentation is blinging [10:20] hehe [10:20] about kubuntu still has the contents on a different page [10:21] is it possible to just get rid of the contents? [10:21] what contents are you speaking of? [10:21] ahh [10:21] nevermind...dunno why it did that [10:22] ya, I will fix that up...so disregard that, let me fix and reupload [10:22] I guess it's docbook doing it for us [10:22] ya, I swored though I had it correct when I built it earlier [10:22] swored? swore :) [10:22] In your case probably both. [10:23] .desktop works well [10:23] but that icon is scaled [10:23] I have it as Icon=help [10:23] and I did notice the scaling as well [10:25] try contents2 maybe, the book icon [10:26] or help_index maybe [10:26]