[12:21] <DaSkreech> NIght
[12:45] <kwwii> night all
[01:10] <Mez_> wtf,
[01:10] <Mez_> I cant play ogg movies?
[01:14] <nixternal> Mez: not in Windows you can't, reboot back into Kubuntu :p
[01:14] <Mez> nixternal.. I'm USING Kubuntu[
[01:15] <nixternal> hahaha
[01:15] <Mez> am trying to watch a Theora + Voris vid and I only get sound
[01:15] <Mez> no video
[02:01] <killown> hi
[02:02] <nosredna_ekim> hello
[02:02] <killown> how do I to set flags optimization gcc in apt-build sources packages?
[02:02] <killown> I want build with it flags : -O3 -march=prescott -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
[02:02] <killown> debian/rules << http://rafb.net/p/hKbKd144.html
[02:03] <killown> I need set flags for optmization
[02:03] <killown> can anyone help-me?
[02:04] <nixternal> killown: check #ubuntu-motu
[02:12] <yuriy> anything i should know before installing gutsy on my laptop?
[02:16] <killown> nixternal, ty
[02:39] <yuriy> looks like gutsy is back to dapper colors...
[02:53] <nixternal> hehe
[02:53] <nixternal> getting there
[02:54] <nixternal> bloooo is nice though
[02:54] <nixternal> I did like the purple for a bit though
[02:57] <nixternal> ouch
[02:58] <robotgeek> well, just removing kubuntu desktop to get rid of all the backports i installed
[03:53] <Tm_T> 0450 -!- Irssi: Join to #kubuntu-devel was synced in 168860 secs
[03:53] <Tm_T> real nice
[03:53] <Tm_T> actually, that counter has been running around ages so it's far more than that
[03:58] <yuriy> is the interface for strigi going to be improved before release?
[04:06] <yuriy> and looks like something's causing wineconfig to fail to launch adept_batch
[04:06] <yuriy> do i need to patch it to use kdesudo?
[04:51] <nixternal> so, does this new Canonical Store plan on selling Kubuntu stuff at all?
[04:51] <nixternal> hrmm, probably doesn't matter as it seems to ship to the UK only
[05:03] <coreymon77> nixternal: how many people should i had to vouch for me?
[05:03] <coreymon77> nixternal: how many would be a good amount
[06:57] <nixternal> Riddell: http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/nixternal/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qdbusbridge/qdbusbridge_4.3.1~svn20070816-0ubuntu1.dsc
[06:58] <nixternal> probably needs some work
[09:42] <Riddell> nixternal: seen post from Eddie Martinez on ubuntu-doc list?
[09:58] <Riddell> nixternal: someone decided to delete the linuxmce article from fridge, I've posted it again, please publish it when you get a moment
[10:20] <\sh> Riddell, the uwn issue 52 was deleted too
[10:24] <\sh> hmmm
[10:24] <Riddell> \sh: if you have a copy of it I can re-submit
[10:24] <\sh> Riddell, I wonder if it was purpose because of the hack story inside
[10:24] <Riddell> it's still there
[10:25] <\sh> yesterday evening it wasn't there anymore
[10:26] <\sh> and it was readded around 22:42 utc ...
[10:26] <\sh> hmmm...i don't find a statusbar for a mainwindow anymore in qt4-designer
[10:26] <\sh> where is it hiding nowadays?
[10:34] <\sh> ah..it's already there
[11:38] <\sh> is someone working on krusader 1.80.0 final?
[11:40] <\sh> ah already synced
[01:40] <Riddell> mhb: loaded up the kubuntu CD and I get a message saying "restricted drivers are available", does that popup on the ubuntu live CD too?
[01:41] <Riddell> it says it's for "lirc_gpio", but there's no description of what that could mean, which is quite a usability issue
[01:41] <Hobbsee> it turns out to be an infrared thing
[01:42] <Hobbsee> but that's quite hard to find
[01:42] <Riddell> had a feeling it was, but some description would seem appropriate
[02:13] <Riddell> nixternal: did you have a docs update?  can it get in for tribe 5?
[02:13] <Riddell> I wonder how to add a link to the live cd desktop
[02:23] <Riddell> mhb: restricted-manager (gnome) doesn't even have an autostart file, why is that different?
[02:33] <Riddell> nixternal: it'll need a change in casper to get the about kubuntu onto the live desktop, are you able to come up with a suitable .desktop file and have that somewhere so it can be copied to the desktop
[02:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133140 in restricted-manager "kubuntu live CD has popup on startup" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133140
[02:38] <Riddell> and bug 133141, for good luck :)
[02:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133141 in restricted-manager "no description of driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133141
[02:49] <ScottK> Riddell: Sorry to be a pest about Zekr, but not so sorry I'm not going to ask...  It's still sitting in a "Failed to upload" state.  Is there someone else I should go ping about the package?
[02:56] <Riddell> ScottK: someone who knows more about soyuz than I, infinity maybe, but he's ill today
[02:57] <ScottK> OK.  Not him then.  Would Mithrandir be a good person to ask?
[02:57] <ScottK> That or I can just wait.
[02:59] <Riddell> mithrandir is generally busy with mobile these days
[02:59] <Riddell> give infinity an e-mail
[03:09] <ScottK> OK.  I'll do that.  Thanks.
[03:10] <Lure_> Riddell: lirc is needed for mythtv
[03:10] <Lure_> Riddell: I agree that we should not warn for this
[03:11] <Riddell> Lure_: well not on the live CD, and only once on the installed desktop
[03:12] <Lure_> Riddell: yep, but I am not sure if this is general HW and users care about it
[03:23] <Riddell> jjesse: icon for strigi?
[03:23] <Riddell> there isn't one
[03:24] <jjesse> the magnifying glass that is next to system, kontact, kopote, konqi?
[03:24] <jjesse> i have one in my gutsy install
[03:25] <Riddell> I don't
[03:25] <Riddell> and neither does my live CD
[03:25] <jjesse> hmmm must be something i've done to my system then
[03:25] <Riddell> what happens when you click on it?
[03:25] <jjesse> launch strigi
[03:25] <Riddell> is it the same size as the kmenu/system/desktop icon?
[03:25] <jjesse> looks like a magnifying glass
[03:25] <jjesse> larger
[03:25] <Riddell> that's large
[03:25] <jjesse> let me fire up my vm and i'll do a screenshot
[03:26] <Riddell> what strigi client does it launch?  the qt 4 one?
[03:26] <jjesse> firing up vm
[03:30] <jjesse> best place to put the screenshots?
[03:31] <Riddell> anywhere you like :)
[03:31] <Lure_> Riddell: I think strigi is qt4-only, right?
[03:31] <Riddell> strigi-client is, strigi-applet and strigi kioslave is kde 3
[03:44] <Riddell> jjesse: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/strigi1.png that's your doing I'm sure
[03:44] <Riddell> it's also the same size as the kmenu/system/desktop icons
[03:44] <Riddell> I'd like to have strigi have a systray applet
[03:44] <jjesse> figured it was my doing
[03:45] <Riddell> but it also needs to learn how to start automatically (when the user tell it that's ok)
[03:50] <jjesse> it is starting automatically for me, must have enabled it some how which created the icon?
[03:51] <Riddell> jjesse: so if you search there, it comes up with results?
[03:51] <jjesse> yeah it does
[03:51] <Riddell> groovy :)
[03:52] <jjesse> when i type in "key" it shows results, plus a tab called images, and then a tab called web
[03:52] <jjesse> on the tab called images i have 3 results
[03:53] <jjesse> and then web there is 236 results -- which are all the ubuntu-docs xml files that have the word key in it
[03:55] <Riddell> so it does, I've no idea what those tabs do
[03:56] <Riddell> manchicken: are you going to chicarco lug tonight?
[03:56] <manchicken> Nope.  Why do you ask?
[03:56] <manchicken> I'm about 150 miles south of them.
[03:56] <Riddell> dude on ubuntu-docs asking about kubuntu may be going
[03:56] <Riddell> ah well, that's a bit far
[03:56] <manchicken> Ah.
[03:57] <manchicken> Well he's in good company.
[03:57] <manchicken> I know those guys rather well.
[04:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: what to do with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/28532
[04:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 28532 in kdenetwork "rdp:/ urls don't work in Kubuntu default install" [Wishlist,New] 
[04:15] <coreymon77> Riddell: how many approvals from users should i have?
[04:15] <coreymon77> Riddell: whats a good number?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: 42
[04:15] <coreymon77> Hobbsee: realistically
[04:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: krdc does things without rdesktop?
[04:15] <Hobbsee> coreymon77: well, as i've got no idea what you're talking about... :)
[04:16] <Riddell> coreymon77: as many as you feel appropriate, of course exsting members and motu and devs will be given higher recognition than hoards of people we've never heard of
[04:17] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, but if we don't make it depend, the error message should at least be changed to something more meaningful
[04:17] <Riddell> apachelogger: we could just add rdesktop to the seeds
[04:17] <coreymon77> ive got two members and one user so far
[04:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: the what?
[04:18] <Riddell> apachelogger: the seeds, which are used to make kubuntu-desktop package
[04:18] <apachelogger> hm
[04:19] <apachelogger> yeah, actually that sounds even more reasonable :D
[04:19] <jjesse> if you don't have rdesktop installed i think you can use krdc for vnc connections
[04:20] <Riddell> apachelogger: added
[04:20] <apachelogger> Riddell: hehe, thanks, gotta close the bug then
[04:21] <apachelogger> jjesse: yep, but the message it throws out if one trys to access rdp is just awful IMO
[04:21] <jjesse> apachelogger: i agree
[04:40] <jjesse> was bugg #28532 actually fix released or was it just fix committed?
[04:40] <jjesse> bug #28532
[04:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 28532 in kdenetwork "rdp:/ urls don't work in Kubuntu default install" [Wishlist,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/28532
[04:41] <Riddell> committed
[04:41] <Riddell> but if someone wants to update the meta package, voila
[04:44] <apachelogger> hm
[04:44] <apachelogger> really, starting with backports is awful
[04:44] <Riddell> starting what?
[04:44] <apachelogger> how to do backports in the most proper way
[04:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: say I have a gutsy package... I change the version to ~feisty1, ultimately it builds without problems on feisty... but what to do then?
[04:46] <Riddell> file a bug on launchpad.net/feisty-backports
[04:46] <Riddell> ask jdong to confirm it
[04:46] <Riddell> he'll subscribe ubuntu-archive
[04:46] <ScottK> Or me
[04:46] <Riddell> or ScottK
[04:46] <Riddell> an archive admin will backport it
[04:46] <apachelogger> ok
[04:46] <Riddell> if it needs to pass New I'll probably get to it one day
[04:47] <apachelogger> ^_^
[04:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, congrats to archive admin status :)
[04:49] <Riddell> all your packages are belong to me
[04:49] <Hobbsee> yes, but all the pointy sticks belong to ME!!!
[04:50] <Hobbsee> !logs
[04:50] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[04:50] <apachelogger> omg
[04:50] <Riddell> see if I ever let any of your packages through New in future!
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i'll just ask tollef to do them.  that's easy
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Riddell: or piit
[04:51] <Hobbsee> er, pitti
[04:53] <Riddell> humph
[04:53] <Hobbsee> poor Riddell :)
[04:54] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you were lucky you didnt come near tollef and myself at the castle dinner thing.
[04:54] <Hobbsee> sorry, palace
[04:54] <Riddell> why's that?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> Riddell: oh, tollef and i had collected a nice pile of toothpicks, and were pokign people with them.
[04:55] <Hobbsee> robert (racarr) in particular
[04:55] <Riddell> ouch, poor guy
[04:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: was there anything interesting in the kubuntu meeting, btw?  i never got to read it, and logs dont exist
[04:59] <Riddell> apachelogger became a member
[04:59] <Riddell> didn't someone do minutes?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> not that i've seen
[05:00] <Riddell> tsk
[05:00] <apachelogger_> oh
[05:00] <apachelogger_> mhb did, didn't he?
[05:00] <jjesse> i blame nixternal
[05:00] <jjesse> !nixternal
[05:00] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[05:01] <apachelogger_> hm
[05:01] <apachelogger_> what that _ might be
[05:01] <apachelogger_> apachelogger: go away
[05:01] <apachelogger> Hobbsee: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings/Minutes/2007-08-01
[05:03] <Hobbsee> This point was not discussed due to the key person (Hobbsee) absent.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> yeah, i'm slack
[05:03] <Hobbsee> ooh!  ooh!  my wednesdays have changed now.
[05:03] <jjesse> are they thursdays now or some other day?
[05:03] <Hobbsee> oh wait, it's my thursdays that the meeting is on.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> jjesse: i'd say on a tuesday for you, then.
[05:04] <Lure_> Riddell: I think opensync and kdepim enterprise is not in Tribe5 (still waiting on build-dep and MIR for opensync)
[05:07] <Hobbsee> mhb: you rock, thanks for that
[05:07] <Riddell> Lure_: I moved opensync to main this morning
[05:08] <Lure_> Riddell: great!
[05:08] <Lure_> Riddell: when will build resolve then: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:3.5.7enterprise20070810-0ubuntu1/+build/375482
[05:09] <Riddell> dunno, hopefully it'll do it automatically, or infinity will come along and fix it soon
[05:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: Don't forget Dapper.  Dapper will be around after Edgy and Feisty are long gone.
[05:12] <apachelogger> ScottK: lots of work I see -.-
[05:12] <ScottK> Yep.
[05:12] <ScottK> Actually Edgy seems pretty dead from a backports perspective, but Dapper is still active.
[05:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: now, for amarok it's probably that I have to backport libs... what's the prefered solution? actually backport the libs or just remove the features (i.e. disable with configure)
[05:14] <ScottK> It depends...
[05:14] <apachelogger> IIRC a lot of the media device libs were in universe for dapper
[05:14] <apachelogger> if they were available at all
[05:14] <ScottK> If the libs have a lot of reverse dependencies, then it's tough to backport them because other stuff might break.
[05:15] <ScottK> If they have few/no other reverse depends (and the others get tested and backported as necessary) then they can be backported.
[05:15] <Lure_> Riddell: right, some buildd admin has to give it back
[05:15] <ScottK> If they didn't exist at all, then it's a NEW backport and no problem.
[05:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: k, thx
[05:16] <ScottK> Source backports (if you have to strip out features) can be done, but need a core-dev to upload them (even for Universe packages).
[05:16] <ScottK> It's a separate backports bug for each package.
[06:11] <mhb> Riddell: it surely does
[06:12] <mhb> Riddell: at least the file /usr/share/autostart/restricted-manager.desktop waas there when I did the changes
[06:17] <Riddell> mhb: yes, I missed it somehow
[06:17] <Riddell> mhb: however, it doesn't give me a popup on the ubuntu live CD
[06:21] <mhb> Riddell: that is interesting...
[06:22] <mhb> Riddell: pitti worked on that after the restructuring, but the code should be shared
[06:22] <Riddell> I just wonder if it's turned off on the live CD somehow
[06:22] <mhb> Riddell: could you please check if both .desktop files have the same parameters?
[06:23] <mhb> the checking code should be shared by both frontends, it's in the common part of r-m
[06:23] <Riddell> Exec=restricted-manager-kde --check
[06:23] <Riddell> Exec=restricted-manager --check
[06:23] <mhb> ya, that is fine
[06:25] <bddebian> Heya
[06:28] <mhb> Riddell: I honestly don't know how GNOME solves it
[06:29] <mhb> Riddell: I can investigate, or you can
[06:29] <nixternal> Riddell: ya, I know about Eddie Martinez, he is a friend of mine here in Chicago. I do have an updated doc package as well..a .desktop file for the about-kubuntu would be easy to come up with
[06:29] <nixternal> Riddell: where should the .desktop file go?
[06:30] <Riddell> nixternal: anywhere really, it just need to be copied to the Desktop when the live CD boots
[06:30] <Riddell> mhb: on the ubuntu live CD I boot up and it still has the r-m autostart file on the filesystem, and when I run it the applet pops up
[06:30] <Riddell> so I don't know why it isn't autostarting
[06:31] <Riddell> it also has no description of the driver at all
[06:33] <mhb> Riddell: it could be a bug in Ubuntu/GNOME
[06:33] <mhb> Riddell: or a feature, I am not sure
[06:33] <nixternal> Riddell: added the story back to the fridge, sladen deleted it seems but then re-added but forgot to promote it
[06:34] <Riddell> mhb: mm, I think gnome isn't reading that /usr/share/autostart directory
[06:34] <Riddell> trackerd also has an entry in there, but it has a duplicate file in /etc/xdg/autostart
[06:34] <Riddell> I think gnome only reads that one
[06:35] <Riddell> mhb: so it sounds like that file should be moved for gnome, and casper should delete the autostart for the live CD
[06:50] <apachelogger> ScottK: I built kaffeine 0.8.5 for feisty, what to do now? debdiff and bug report?
[06:51] <ScottK> Why is there a debdiff?
[06:51] <ScottK> If it's the unmodified Gutsy source with a changelog entry, no need for it.
[06:52] <ScottK> The archive admins have an automagic script that handles it.
[06:52] <apachelogger> ok
[06:53] <ScottK> apachelogger: In addition to reporting that it built and you tested it, please include the debian changelog entries since the Feisty version (like you would do for a sync request).
[06:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133034 in feisty-backports "Please backport dkim-milter 1.2.0.dfsg-1ubuntu2 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress] 
[06:53] <ScottK> Of course I wrote it, so I would.
[06:54] <apachelogger> ^_^
[07:01] <Lure> Riddell: kdepim does depwait due to typo s/libopensync-dev/libopensync0-dev/
[07:06] <lontra> oo.org2.3 hasn't been fixed in kubuntu yet has it?  i know about the work around
[07:07] <ScottK> lontra: There is a patch.  New OOO upload coming soon.
[07:07] <lontra> ScottK: great to hear ;)
[07:08] <lontra> ScottK: btw ... do you know anything about desktop effects in gutsy and whether they'll be default in kubuntu?
[07:11] <apachelogger> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/133178
[07:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133178 in feisty-backports "Please backport kaffeine 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Undecided,New] 
[07:15] <ScottK> lontra: I don't.
[07:15] <ScottK> apachelogger: Looking
[07:16] <apachelogger> *waiting for ScottK's opinion* :)
[07:16] <ScottK> apachelogger: It also needs to say you've installed and tested it and it works.
[07:16] <ScottK> tested is there I see now.
[07:16] <apachelogger> Just built and tested (with some help from #kubuntu-de). It builds/installs/and spreads it's love.
[07:17] <ScottK> Right.  I missed tested the first time I read it.
[07:17] <apachelogger> ;-)
[07:18] <ScottK> apachelogger: See Bug #133178.
[07:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133178 in feisty-backports "Please backport kaffeine 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133178
[07:18] <ScottK> You need an archive admin now.  Maybe Riddell will look at Bug #133034 at the same time ...
[07:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133034 in feisty-backports "Please backport dkim-milter 1.2.0.dfsg-1ubuntu2 from Gutsy to Feisty" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133034
[07:19] <apachelogger> Mighty and generous master Riddell will surely do :D
[07:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: considering I would have to change something in the debian directy... then I would have to provide a debdiff, wouldn't I?
[07:21] <ScottK> If it's otherwise good, you don't need a debdiff for changelog changes as the archive automagic script does that.
[07:21] <ScottK> If it needs other changes you need the debdiff and a core-dev to upload it.
[07:22] <apachelogger> ok
[07:23] <ScottK> Source backports are rare.
[07:35] <nixternal> Riddell: /usr/share/applications for the about-kubuntu.desktop?
[07:43] <Riddell> nixternal: no, maybe /usr/share/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu but call it about-kubuntu.desktop.tobemoved
[07:43] <Riddell> or something like that
[07:48] <nixternal> it is called about-kubuntu.desktop right now...so rename it with the .tobemoved at the end
[07:50] <abcde_> hello, installing kde4base-dev doesn't work, it complains missing package dbus-x11
[07:50] <abcde_> anyone how to fix?
[07:52] <ScottK> This is on feisty-backports, right?
[07:52] <abcde_> correct
[07:53] <Riddell> abcde_: what version?
[07:53] <ScottK> OK.  You probably have a stale mirror.  I newer version that didn't have that problem was uploaded several days ago.
[07:54] <abcde_> ok
[07:54] <abcde_> I just ran update again
[07:54] <abcde_> but this time using aptitude
[07:54] <ScottK> abcde_: Also answer Riddell's question.
[07:55] <abcde_> what version?
[07:55] <abcde_> kde4b1
[07:55] <abcde_> what the kubuntu page says to do
[07:55] <abcde_> I'm running feisty here 7.04
[07:56] <ScottK> What's the entire version number?
[07:57] <abcde_> well aptitude is download this right now libqt4-gui 4.3.0-4ubuntu1~feisty
[07:59] <abcde_> kdepimlibs5 3.92.0-0ubuntu1~feisty1
[07:59] <abcde_> ok this may work
[07:59] <abcde_> these are all new packages
[07:59] <abcde_> modified my /etc/apt/sources.list, this will probably work now, thanks :)
[08:02] <Riddell> abcde_: I've backported a new version of kdelibs5 which should fix the issue, please try again in about 12 hours
[08:06] <nixternal> Riddell: I think it would be safe just to have about-kubuntu.desktop in the khc kubuntu plugins dir, that way there we have about-kubuntu listed in khc as well...what do you think?
[08:06] <nixternal> and then with casper, either link to it or copy it over
[08:07] <Riddell> nixternal: I don't think it's the same thing
[08:07] <Riddell> copy it to the desktop, I don't think you can just click on it and khelpcentre will pop up
[08:08] <nixternal> hrmm..I will try it here and see what the outcome is...dunno if KHC or Konqi will open the help:/ link
[08:08] <Riddell> it probably needs a .desktop file with Exec=khelpcentre help:/foo
[08:10] <nixternal> do you want it to exec khelpcenter or konqi?
[08:12] <Riddell> mm, good question
[08:13] <Riddell> I'd say khelpentre, except it's UI is more cluttered than konqi
[08:13] <nixternal> ya
[08:21] <nixternal> a link to help:/kubuntu/about-kubuntu opens up in Konqi btw
[08:22] <nixternal> make it an application type with khc in the exec if you want
[08:25] <Riddell> dunno, I'll leave it up to you :)
[08:27] <nixternal> pros/cons of KHC:  you can see all of the documentation - pro :: it is messy - con
[08:27] <nixternal> with Konqi it is clean, and you see only the about-kubuntu
[08:28] <nixternal> but that can be fixed by directing them to KMenu->Help in the about-kubuntu doc
[08:29] <nixternal> just got my 2 new Qt books!
[08:29] <Riddell> oh, which books are they/
[08:29] <Riddell> ?
[08:30] <nixternal> danimo's book and let me see the other one here
[08:31] <nixternal> Qt 4 - The Art of Building Qt Application by Daniel Molkentin
[08:31] <nixternal> Foundations of Qt Development by Johan Thelin
[08:31] <nixternal> so now I have every Qt4 book on the market :)
[08:34] <jjesse> i hate to ask a support question, but i can't remember how to do it:  how do you renable the prompt on what you want to do w/ a usb disk?
[08:36] <nosredna_ekim> support in #kubuntu ;)
[08:36] <jjesse> no one responded
[08:38] <nosredna_ekim> I know... I was being facetious. =)
[08:39] <nosredna_ekim> jjesse: hmm, I recall seeing it somewhere in system settings
[08:39] <ScarFreewill> does kwin's compositing work?
[08:40] <nosredna_ekim> jjesse: system settings-> notifications
[08:40] <ScarFreewill> because if I set explosion under window effects nothing happens...
[08:41] <jjesse> nosredna_ekim:
[08:41] <jjesse> nosredna_ekim: thanks
[08:41] <nosredna_ekim> NP,  I actually didn't see your request in #kubuntu  so its really my fault :)
[08:45] <Riddell> nixternal: my Foundations one arrived today, the publishers sent it to me to review
[08:45] <nixternal> boo you :)
[08:46] <nixternal> I only paid like $30 for it
[08:46] <nixternal> I got both books shipped for a little over $60, so that isn't bad at all
[08:58] <nixternal> OK, building updated docs package
[09:12] <apachelogger> someone can upload for me to multiverse?
[09:14] <ScottK> apachelogger: Any MOTU can do it.  The process is the same as for Universe.
[09:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: you're a motu, aren't you? :D
[09:15] <ScottK> I am.  I've also got a full plate today.
[09:15] <ScottK> Ask in #ubuntu-motu or bug nixternal.  He can do it too.
[09:15] <apachelogger> nixternal: pling pling
[09:16] <nixternal> plong plong
[09:16] <apachelogger> nixternal: got a minute to upload a bugfix for me?
[09:16] <nixternal> are we allowed to? what is the current freeze situation?
[09:16] <nixternal> other than that, I can do it
[09:17] <apachelogger> and even those I can't remember ^_^
[09:17] <apachelogger> nixternal: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/mozilla-mplayer/gutsy/ fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayerplug-in/+bug/112055
[09:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112055 in mplayerplug-in "mozilla-mplayer won't play divx" [Undecided,New] 
[09:17] <nixternal> ScottK: are we allowed to upload the bug fix?
[09:18] <ScottK> nixternal: The only thing that's frozed is new upstream versions. I new Ubuntu revision is no problem at all.
[09:18] <ScottK> frozed/frozen...
[09:18] <nixternal> gotcha
[09:18] <ScottK> Although frozed sort of works too.
[09:18] <nixternal> real quick, is it (Closes LP: #xxxx) or (LP: #xxxx)
[09:19] <apachelogger> nixternal: closes
[09:19] <nixternal> yummy...I gotta fix that then on my docs package
[09:19] <apachelogger> the symlink generation file had a copy'n'paste error
[09:19] <nixternal> ya, I can see that, so it was overwriting the -rm ones
[09:20] <ScottK> nixternal: LP:
[09:20] <ScottK> Closes: is debian.
[09:20] <nixternal> ahh, thought so
[09:20] <nixternal> apachelogger: you wanna fix that really quick and give me a debdiff?
[09:20] <ScottK> The actual regex catches LP: #xxxx so either way works.
[09:20] <apachelogger> nixternal: in the directory
[09:21] <nixternal> ScottK: so by him having (Closes LP: #xxx) he is good to go then?
[09:21] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/mozilla-mplayer/gutsy/debdiff_mplayerplug-in_3.40-5ubuntu5.diff
[09:21] <nixternal> apachelogger: derr, ya I see it now :)
[09:21] <apachelogger> ^_^
[09:21] <ScottK> It'll work, yes.
[09:21] <ScottK> I wouldn't make him re-upload it for that, but you may choose to be more pedantic at your discretion.
[09:40] <nixternal> apachelogger: uploaded!
[09:40] <nixternal> thanks
[09:40] <apachelogger> nixternal: thanks for uploading :)
[09:43] <nosredna_ekim> mhb: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=787261&rl=1
[09:45] <mhb> nosredna_ekim: for me? you shouldn't have .o)
[09:46] <nosredna_ekim> haha
[09:50] <mhb> nosredna_ekim: is it somehow relevant to me?
[09:50] <nosredna_ekim> mhb: you were just arguing that on your blog
[09:50] <nosredna_ekim> looks like SOME people agree
[09:51] <ijuz__> 10 years gnome today, that would be a good date for gnome to stop the development >:->
[09:51] <mhb> nosredna_ekim: ah yes, true :-)
[09:52] <mhb> nosredna_ekim: I haven't read it to the end before my question, reading the title I thought my UI would be mentioned there or something :o)
[09:53] <nosredna_ekim> oh.... haha. nope... that hasn't been publicised yet. I was thinking about adding and enrty to my blog about it though.
[10:13] <nixternal> Riddell: http://www.nixternal.com/docs
[10:14] <Riddell> let me look
[10:20] <nixternal> I can say this about the Foundations book, give it to a beginner, and boy will they be lost :)
[10:20] <Riddell> ooh, this system documentation is blinging
[10:20] <nixternal> hehe
[10:20] <Riddell> about kubuntu still has the contents on a different page
[10:21] <Riddell> is it possible to just get rid of the contents?
[10:21] <nixternal> what contents are you speaking of?
[10:21] <nixternal> ahh
[10:21] <nixternal> nevermind...dunno why it did that
[10:22] <nixternal> ya, I will fix that up...so disregard that, let me fix and reupload
[10:22] <Riddell> I guess it's docbook doing it for us
[10:22] <nixternal> ya, I swored though I had it correct when I built it earlier
[10:22] <nixternal> swored? swore :)
[10:22] <ScottK> In your case probably both.
[10:23] <Riddell> .desktop works well
[10:23] <Riddell> but that icon is scaled
[10:23] <nixternal> I have it as Icon=help
[10:23] <nixternal> and I did notice the scaling as well
[10:25] <Riddell> try contents2 maybe, the book icon
[10:26] <Riddell> or help_index maybe
[10:26] <nixternal> k
[10:55] <_StefanS_> evening
[12:00] <nixternal> Riddell: OK, recreating a kick arse docs package for you now...test building for safety :)