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| bdmurray | Is there a way to move an attachment from one bug report to another? | 12:27 |
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| thumper | not that I know of | 12:28 |
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| tokj | is launchpad in maintenance or something? i keep getting OOPSes | 01:25 |
| jordi | that doesn't sound like maintenance | 01:36 |
| tck | lol.. | 01:55 |
| jordi | I mean, there must be some problem, nothing scheduled | 01:55 |
| jordi | but I can't tell you more than that | 01:55 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #133089 in launchpad "Unused BugTask target types complicating and slowing down Launchpad" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133089 | 06:50 |
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| carlos | morning | 08:36 |
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| poolie | launchpad seems to be consistently timing out for me.... | 09:12 |
| jamesh | poolie: for a particular page, or more generally? | 09:12 |
| poolie | searching for 'tag' in bzr bugs | 09:12 |
| poolie | well it did it three times in a row at least | 09:13 |
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| mrevell | Morning all | 10:13 |
| Hobbsee | morning mrevell! | 10:14 |
| mrevell | morning Hobbsee! Hey, you know you've done too much irc when you try to tab auto-complete the word morning. | 10:21 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: :D | 10:21 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: i havent tried that yet | 10:21 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: I regular find myself getting frustrated when pressing tab, and then realising that auto-complete works for nicks, not for the entire English language. | 10:21 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: OpenOffice does it, though :) | 10:21 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 10:21 |
| Hobbsee | indeed it does - i was quite surprised | 10:21 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: Yeah, it's the sort of feature that annoyed me at first, particularly if it chose the wrong word, but now I miss it. I wish my pen would auto-complete too. | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 10:24 |
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| Hobbsee | mrevell: any idea if there are plans to split otu team email and person email in the future? | 11:02 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: Hmm, I writing a short guide to the X-Launchpad... headers today. Erm, I don't know of a plan but I can ask. | 11:03 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: thunderbird will sometimes filter it correctly. iv'e also tried to ge tthe server sieve to work. we'll see if behaves. | 11:04 |
| carlos | Hobbsee: I use sieve already and works quite well | 11:09 |
| Hobbsee | carlos: can you give me the syntax of your sieve stuff? my sieve-foo isnt so great | 11:09 |
| carlos | I use squirrelmail's plugin to manage sieve servers | 11:10 |
| carlos | but I think I could get the script it generates and show you it... | 11:11 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i think i've figured it out | 11:11 |
| carlos | s/sieve servers/sieve rules/ | 11:11 |
| carlos | then, do you still need my filter rule examples? | 11:12 |
| Hobbsee | it'd be helpful, but it's not essential | 11:13 |
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| carlos | Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34037/ | 12:49 |
| Hobbsee | carlos: ah right. yes, i was more wondering about the field names. thanks | 12:50 |
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| carlos | Hobbsee: http://www.squirrelmail.org/countdl.php?fileurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.squirrelmail.org%2Fplugins%2Favelsieve-1.9.7.tar.gz | 12:54 |
| carlos | Hobbsee: that's the tool I use to manage rules and it should have most of the field names information | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | right, OK | 12:54 |
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| SteveA | mrevell: where's the list of mini specs for the doc project? | 01:43 |
| mrevell | SteveA: Just a moment. | 01:44 |
| mrevell | SteveA: https://launchpad.canonical.com/UserDocumentation | 01:45 |
| SteveA | mrevell: we need to move this to a public wiki | 01:46 |
| SteveA | otherwise, we won't get help on it | 01:46 |
| mrevell | SteveA: Sorry, gave you the wrong link: https://help.launchpad.net/DocumentationSpecs | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | SteveA: i doubt you will anyway, unless you play your cards carefully. | 01:47 |
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| SteveA | Hobbsee: why is that? | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | SteveA: because launchpad is a closed source project. | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | SteveA: so people go "oh, i cant do anything with that" | 01:49 |
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| SteveA | "quick start guide" | 01:50 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 01:50 |
| SteveA | people have written books and websites and blogs on ways to use google better | 01:51 |
| jordi | oio SteveA! | 01:52 |
| SteveA | and I never hear anyone say of google "it's closed source, so I can't do anything with that" | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | granted, but search engines are different - in that there are more of them, where the same principles apply in exactly the same way. | 01:52 |
| SteveA | what about google maps | 01:52 |
| SteveA | same applies | 01:52 |
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| SteveA | jordi: hoi! | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | SteveA: okay. i may be wrong. | 01:53 |
| jordi | Hobbsee: there's many arguments to waive re: launchpad's non-freeness, but "can't do anything with it" is bogus. google is a perfect example. They use FS to build their zillion apps, but they are not free. Everyone loves them though. | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee | jordi: this is true. i wonder why those who whinge about launchpad not being free dont do the same about google. | 01:54 |
| SteveA | google has pretty good APIs | 01:54 |
| SteveA | launchpad has pretty crap APIs | 01:55 |
| SteveA | we're changing this though -- in 2 weeks, a bunch of us are meeting in florida | 01:55 |
| SteveA | to start a project to make some useful open APIs and libraries for Launchpad | 01:55 |
| jordi | google, even though it's becoming a frightening information monster, is "cool". Launchpad is in the Linux distro wars fight, so not everyone is happy to defend it. I guess? :) | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | Something's actually happening about that? Yay! | 01:56 |
| SteveA | to help people embed information from Launchpad in web pages, and write new programs to talk to launchpad | 01:56 |
| jordi | SteveA: woa, that's pretty cool | 01:56 |
| Fujitsu | SteveA: All I can say is `finally' | 01:56 |
| SteveA | Fujitsu: I'm glad you approve! | 01:56 |
| jordi | I wonder if my little list of "things Rosetta can do when there's a good way of exporting stuff" is still in the laptop | 01:57 |
| SteveA | jordi: please send it to me | 01:57 |
| Hobbsee | that sounds cool @ the APIs, etc. | 01:58 |
| jordi | SteveA: if I find it, I fear it was in a partition I blew up | 01:58 |
| jordi | but I'll look for it | 01:58 |
| jordi | a little chat between the rosetta people would come up with the ideas pretty fast I guess | 01:59 |
| SteveA | jordi: if you come up with anything, let me know | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | presumably the documentation wont need to change much, if launchpad stays working the same way | 02:01 |
| mpt | Gooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 02:01 |
| Fujitsu | Hi mpt. | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | hi mpt | 02:02 |
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| jordi | SteveA: will do | 02:10 |
| jordi | SteveA: once I know more about what the APIs can offer, ideas should flow | 02:11 |
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| Rinchen | ping jordi / laserjock | 03:26 |
| Rinchen | unping jordi | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | laserjock's not on irc or on jabber.. | 03:31 |
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| Rinchen | Yeah I always seem to get those two confused. :-) I need laserjock. I usually seem him on the fridge channel in about 2 hours from now. Just being hopeful :-) | 03:36 |
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| Hobbsee | heh :) | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | Rinchen: just get him to move to au, and he'll be doing all sorts of crazy timezones | 03:38 |
| Rinchen | :-) | 03:38 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: Are you still awake? :) | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: no. i irc over sleeping-brainwaves | 03:39 |
| mrevell | Hobbsee: Hey, I'd like to see the paper describing that. | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | mrevell: well, ther'es already one for IP over carrier pidgeon | 03:39 |
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| jordi | Rinchen: you mix me up with laserjock? That's interesting ;) | 03:41 |
| Rinchen | Not that you to look a like mind you | 03:43 |
| jordi | hehe | 03:43 |
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| jordi | I don't know laserjock | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait, there was probably a MOTU one | 03:43 |
| jordi | but in any case, I'm off! | 03:44 |
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| LucidFox | How do I enable support for Launchpad translations for a Qt application using .ts/.qm files? | 05:03 |
| LucidFox | (I'm its upstream developer, and it has a package in Ubuntu) | 05:04 |
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| Rinchen | carlos, danilos, ^^ | 05:06 |
| carlos | LucidFox: you will need to use a script to convert from ts/qm files to .po files | 05:07 |
| carlos | I think it's called ts2po | 05:07 |
| carlos | Rinchen: thanks | 05:07 |
| Rinchen | thanks carlos - I didn't know the answer to that one. | 05:08 |
| Rinchen | that's in the translate package right? | 05:08 |
| carlos | LucidFox: once you get the .pot and any .po with current existing translations you could upload them into Launchpad and we will approve it | 05:08 |
| carlos | Rinchen: I think so, yes. Not sure... | 05:08 |
| Rinchen | great, thanks | 05:08 |
| carlos | Rinchen: translate-toolkit | 05:11 |
| carlos | LucidFox: ^^^ | 05:11 |
| Rinchen | that's the one | 05:11 |
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| Philip5 | any admins for the dogfood server around? | 05:21 |
| Rinchen | cprov, ^^ | 05:22 |
| Philip5 | i'm waiting for a reply on my request for a account on the dogfood server from matthew and was hoping to get a chance to setup upp my PPA this weekend. anyone know if he comes here? | 05:23 |
| cprov | Philip5: hi, what's your account in LP ? | 05:23 |
| Philip5 | cprov: Philip5 | 05:24 |
| Philip5 | philip5 if it's case sensitive | 05:25 |
| Philip5 | got my pgp-key and signed the CoC on LP | 05:26 |
| LucidFox | I processed the Russian translation I made, and the .po and .pot files are identical for some reason | 05:28 |
| cprov | Philip5: you should have said https://launchpad.net/~philip71 ;) | 05:28 |
| LucidFox | (I did try the -P switch for the .pot file) | 05:28 |
| Philip5 | oh | 05:28 |
| Philip5 | cprov: right.. that's th ur but i checked my login name :) | 05:28 |
| cprov | Philip5: that was your 'displayname', but np ... let see how can I transport your data | 05:29 |
| Philip5 | cprov: that would be great :) | 05:30 |
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| cprov | Philip5: you should be able to login now, https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~philip71 | 05:37 |
| Philip5 | i'll give it a try.. hold on | 05:37 |
| Philip5 | cprov: works great! thanks! | 05:38 |
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| cprov | Philip5: wait, I have other parts to copy (CoC & GPG) | 05:39 |
| Philip5 | should i log out? | 05:39 |
| cprov | Philip5: btw, you have to sort your membership in launchpad-beta-testers in production with mrevell. | 05:39 |
| Philip5 | ok | 05:39 |
| mrevell | Hi, how can I help? | 05:39 |
| cprov | Philip5: no, you can stay logged in | 05:39 |
| superm1 | cprov, is there a reason why when building on a PPA a script in /usr/share/PACKAGE/bin/SCRIPT_NAME would be marked -rw-r--r-- root/root, when in my pbuilder it turns out -rwxr-xr-x root/root. Exact same source package | 05:40 |
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| cprov | superm1: not that I know, check for 'sbuild' weirdness with infinity | 05:42 |
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| superm1 | k cprov thx | 05:42 |
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| mrevell | Hi Philip5 - I'm trying to find an email from you. What name would it be under? | 05:45 |
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| LucidFox | All right, I have the .po and .pot files ready - how do I upload them to LP? | 05:45 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: philip71 | 05:46 |
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| Philip5 | mrevell: philip71@ <mymailadress> | 05:46 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: sent yesterday i think and it's a reply on the general info about dogfood | 05:48 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Thanks. I've found an email that I sent to you on Wednesday explaining what you need to do next. It looks as though you no whave a | 05:48 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Hmm, I can't see that | 05:48 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Anyway, not to worry, let's get your sorted in the beta team. | 05:48 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: am i already classed as spam?!?! ;) | 05:49 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: that would be great... i will start to upload som stuff to it this weekend | 05:49 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Cool! To join the beta team, you need to do a couple of things first. I'll send you an email now that explains. | 05:50 |
| Philip5 | ok | 05:50 |
| mrevell | Philip5: It's a standard email that I send to everyone who wants/needs to join the beta team. Let me know when you get it. | 05:50 |
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| Philip5 | mrevell: got it now | 05:51 |
| mrevell | Philip5: great. | 05:51 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: do you just want a confirmation and an accept of that mail as an reply? | 05:53 |
| mrevell | Philip5: please | 05:53 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: i now just sent the confirmation | 05:58 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: but i guess i can publish the PPA adress for my repro to friends as long as the how it's made are not made public? | 05:59 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Yes, you can definitely share the PPA URL. | 06:00 |
| Philip5 | great | 06:00 |
| mrevell | Philip5: The privacy side of things applies more to other features we test, as we've already spoken to the press about PPA. | 06:00 |
| Philip5 | i understand | 06:01 |
| mrevell | Philip5: However, we'd still prefer it if people don't blog about the details of PPA as they could change by the time we launch, and it could get confusing. | 06:01 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Right, I'll go look at your email and get you in the team. | 06:01 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Oh, could you please change your display name in production Launchpad and dogfood Launchpad to your full real name? | 06:02 |
| mrevell | Philip5: We ask you to do this for a couple of reasons: | 06:02 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: no problem | 06:02 |
| mrevell | Philip5: It makes it easier for us to communicate with beta testers, to tell you about new features to test, etc | 06:02 |
| mrevell | Philip5: and we feel it's more appropriate as we're asking you to agree not to talk publicly about the features. | 06:03 |
| mrevell | Philip5: thanks. | 06:03 |
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| Philip5 | mrevell: done | 06:04 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Sorry, but it looks as though it still says "philip5" as your display name in your main Launchpad profile - i.e. your non-dogfood profile. | 06:05 |
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| Philip5 | mrevell: chould i change it on the non-testing LP-server too? | 06:07 |
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| Philip5 | should even... | 06:07 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Yes please. | 06:07 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: done | 06:08 |
| mrevell | Philip5: thanks :) | 06:08 |
| mrevell | Philip5: I'll add you to the team now. | 06:08 |
| Philip5 | do i need to add myself to the launchpad-users list or is the betalist seperate? | 06:09 |
| mrevell | Philip5: I've added you to the team both on main Launchpad and dogfood. Yeah, please join launchpad-users ... that's where all the beta discussion happens. | 06:11 |
| Philip5 | ok, then i do that too | 06:11 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: do i understand it right if all packages should be labeled as universe/devel in section of the debian control file nomatter what kind of package it is? | 06:14 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Thanks. Welcome to the Launchpad beta team. If you have any questions, please mail the launchpad-users list. Take a look through the recent archive for that list, too, as you'll see some of the discussion that's already taken place. | 06:14 |
| mrevell | Philip5: I'm afraid I'll have to ask one of my colleagues to help you with this. cprov is the developer who has been working on PPA. I tihnk he may be at lunch right now, though. | 06:15 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: so far the only thing i can think of is learnig the dput tool as i haven't uploaded that way before but i guess it's pretty straight forward | 06:16 |
| mrevell | Philip5: Have you seen the PPA quick-start guide? https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart | 06:16 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: hmm, lunch? where are you guys at geographicly? in the u.s? | 06:17 |
| Philip5 | mrevell: i just read it | 06:17 |
| mrevell | Philip5: I'm in the UK, cprov is in Brazil. | 06:17 |
| mrevell | Philip5: As a team, we have members in Australia, New Zealand, the US, France, Spain, Luxembourg, The Netherlands ... I'm trying to think if I've missed anywhere. | 06:18 |
| Philip5 | then someone from the team should be around almost at any time of day :) | 06:19 |
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| mrevell | Philip5: Pretty much, yes :) | 06:21 |
| Philip5 | cprov-lunch: please let me know when you are back from lunch as i have a couple of question about the build process... mainly how the buildserver/PPA server knows how to use dependencies of packages that i updated and have on my own PPA so it doesn't get built just against the official packages in the ubuntu repros | 06:30 |
| mpt | Brazil! | 06:39 |
| mpt | oh, you said Brazil | 06:40 |
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| mwhudson | lithuania and germany, i think? | 06:44 |
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| Philip5 | cprov: are you there? | 07:42 |
| cprov | Philip5: yup | 07:42 |
| Philip5 | i just made my first dput to my ppa | 07:43 |
| Philip5 | just wondering how long i have to wait for a accept or reject? | 07:43 |
| cprov | Philip5: congrats ! the processor runs in batches every 20 minutes (:00, :20, :40) | 07:43 |
| Philip5 | dput didn't complain about the upload | 07:43 |
| Philip5 | ok so i have to wait about 20 min before i can know if it's in que? | 07:44 |
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| cprov | Philip5: 15 minutes ;) | 07:46 |
| Philip5 | cprov: ok... but if i upload sourcepackages that are dependent on a package i just uploaded do i have to wait for a confirm that it got built ok before my next package can build with the first package as dependency? | 07:47 |
| Philip5 | will be rather tedious if i have to wait 15 min between every package... just a thought... | 07:48 |
| cprov | Philip5: you don't necessarily have to wait, the sources will find their way inside soyuz. If you have another package upload it. | 07:48 |
| Philip5 | cprov: am i right that it only builds about the main repro and my ppa repro and don't use packages found in universe or mulitverse? | 07:49 |
| Philip5 | cprov: if so... is there a way to make my ppa able to fetch from i e multiverse? | 07:50 |
| cprov | Philip5: no, it does use all components, respecting ogre-model (main sources can only build-dep from other main binaries, universe source can only build-depend on main+restricted+universe binaires, and so on) | 07:50 |
| cprov | Philip5: only sources target to multiverse or universe can build-dep on binaries in universe, according to what I've just said. So if you want to build-dep on universe binaries you have to upload your source to universe -> "Section: universe/<section>" trick in debian/control | 07:52 |
| Philip5 | aha, so if i use ie universe/libs in debian/control then it can fetch or do fetch from universe? | 07:53 |
| cprov | Philip5: don't panic, it's all in ubuntu-packaging-guide and a special compilation of it for PPA users is coming. | 07:54 |
| cprov | Philip5: exactly, you got it. | 07:54 |
| Philip5 | ok, great | 07:54 |
| cprov | Philip5: I've not seen your upload ... | 08:04 |
| Philip5 | cprov: i'm also starting to worry about if something is wrong | 08:04 |
| Philip5 | cprov: i used: "incoming = ~philip71/ubuntu/" in my .dput.cf | 08:05 |
| Philip5 | i hope that is right? it's the first time i use dput | 08:06 |
| cprov | Philip5: fqdn ? | 08:06 |
| Philip5 | fqdn = upload.dogfood.launchpad.net | 08:06 |
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| Philip5 | and the login = anonymous as i read in the quickstart | 08:07 |
| cprov | Philip5: that's right, what does dput say when you run it ? | 08:07 |
| Philip5 | cprov: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34088/ | 08:09 |
| cprov | Philip5: Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com) <- !!! | 08:10 |
| Philip5 | woohoaa, where did he get that from? | 08:11 |
| cprov | Philip5: the default target | 08:11 |
| cprov | Philip5: you have to use `dput <target> <changesfile>` | 08:12 |
| cprov | Philip5: btw, I can see you package reject in ubuntu, you should have gotten an message | 08:12 |
| Philip5 | oh, and the target is the [my-ppa] in .dput.cf? | 08:13 |
| cprov | dput my-ppa <changesfile> | 08:13 |
| Philip5 | hehe, true... i just saw the mail frn the ubuntu server :) | 08:13 |
| cprov | Philip5: bash_completion will your friend ;) | 08:14 |
| Philip5 | i'll give it a new shot :) | 08:14 |
| Philip5 | now it gave me the right ftp to upload on | 08:15 |
| Philip5 | learn something new every day... today i learned how to use dput... yeaiiii :) | 08:15 |
| cprov | "frn" obligated me to desperately clean my screen, ehe ... long we haven't touch each other. | 08:15 |
| cprov | Philip5: there we go, our sources are there, 3 minutes and counting. | 08:17 |
| Philip5 | wooohoo | 08:18 |
| Philip5 | my first build will be the brand new rtorrent :) | 08:18 |
| Philip5 | tought it would be a good one to try out the ppa with | 08:19 |
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| cprov | Philip5: "rtorrent is ... ideal to use with screen", interesting ... | 08:21 |
| Philip5 | yes | 08:21 |
| cprov | Philip5: I think you have a big ACCEPTED email in you inbox :) | 08:22 |
| Philip5 | right now i'm setting up a extra pbuilder chroot for the builds against my ppa so i can make a better check before i upload | 08:22 |
| Philip5 | wooohooo | 08:22 |
| cprov | that's what I can see also in https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~philip71/+archive | 08:23 |
| Philip5 | me too :D | 08:23 |
| Philip5 | hehe this is both cool and fun :) | 08:23 |
| cprov | Philip5: uhm ... a pbuilder chroot including your PPA is a very good idea. Although it consumes some disk. | 08:24 |
| Philip5 | yes but i think it's worth it | 08:25 |
| cprov | Philip5: one day PPA will be so easy that you won't need to bore yourself with local setup. Coming soon. | 08:25 |
| Philip5 | nice | 08:25 |
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| cprov | Philip5: I have to leave now, your builds are already created, https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~philip71/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all and should be processed as soon as builders get idle. | 08:37 |
| cprov | Philip5: good luck and bye. | 08:37 |
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| cprov-out | Philip5: well, they're already building, https://dogfood.launchpad.net/+builds/rubidium/ | 08:38 |
| Philip5 | cprov-out: cool :) | 08:39 |
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| bdmurray | Is there a way to search a bug watch like https://launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/gnome-bugs ? | 08:59 |
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| gmb | bdmurray: Hi. I assume you want to search within the bugs that have watches against a particular bug tracker, yes? | 09:22 |
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| bdmurray | Why yes, that is what I was looking for. | 09:32 |
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