[12:32] I hate to ask, but is mythbuntu.org maybe possibly going to be up in the next week? === foxxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:33] I only ask because alpha 4 is supposed to be out next thursday [12:33] i wish i had more updates to give regarding it [12:33] imbrandon was supposed to take care of things this last weekend [12:33] it is the same reason that REVU went down? [12:34] nope [12:34] ok [12:34] it's something completely sep [12:34] thats good I guess [12:35] we can still build the iso and do a torrent release right? [12:36] well i haven't done any local builds for a while since i've focused on this control centre [12:36] but assumingly yes [12:36] ok, sounds good. Announcing it could be tricky no? Rely on digg? [12:39] well i'll bug imbrandon again tomorrow as tomorrow is 2 weeks [12:40] i'd really hope things can be up and running in the near future [12:40] seconded === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:42] Hi superm1, how are you ding? [12:43] cornell, stressed a bit :) [12:43] Oh-no, anything I can do for you? [12:43] na, just sorting out a few odds and ends with the control centre that are taking longer than anticipated [12:44] Oh dear .. the odds and ends... it's the little bits that bite you [12:44] yup [12:44] stuff like icons not showing up [12:44] and too much getting installed [12:44] the beef to the code is done though [12:44] I'm still trying to find my vg. [12:45] volume group? [12:46] Yeah... I don't know if you've been following... but I had a knoppmyth machine with a vg, I installed mythbuntu over the knoppmyth, and now I'm trying to get it to "see" the vg on the other partitions. [12:47] ah i see [12:47] you have the lvm utilities installed in mythbuntu? [12:47] lvm2 [12:47] right [12:48] and vgdisplay isn't doing much for showing the contents? [12:48] "No volume groups found" [12:48] Same for vgscan and lvscan [12:48] well that's odd. [12:49] pvscan says "no matching physical volumes found [12:49] re [12:49] any news on mythbuntu.org? ;) [12:49] laga, nope :( [12:49] we should all go to imbrandon's house with torches and bang on his door i say [12:51] parted shows the partitions, /dev/hda,3 shows no Flags, but hdb1 says "lvm" [12:55] superm1: heh [12:55] so are you missing the first drive in the group then? [12:55] or is that hdb1? [12:55] superm1: i could call him and charm him wis se accent [12:55] see laga, if you were female, i'd believe you had that ability [12:55] but i dont think a male german accent will do === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:56] sad [12:56] now that would be fun. convince a bunch of german girls to call him [12:56] but i mean your welcome to try [12:58] tgm4883, you've got a gutsy vm you can play with a bit? [12:58] we need to convince that ben guy to hand mythbuntu.org [12:59] not really, i just tried booting up the daily build from today and it freezes my vm [12:59] laga, does he have the domain still? [12:59] or who? [12:59] what VM? virtualbox? [12:59] bendailey [12:59] virtualbox [12:59] superm1: whois mythbuntu.org [12:59] right [12:59] tgm4883_laptop: are you using their vboxvideo/vboxmouse drivers for X? [12:59] laga, you have one? === tgm4883_laptop shrugs [01:00] never got that far [01:00] the live cd is freezing [01:00] superm1: yes [01:00] tgm4883_laptop: hum. i installed mythbuntu, then upgraded [01:00] you mind giving the control centre a spin on it [01:00] and see how it works [01:00] superm1: sure [01:00] i'll post it somewhere [01:00] control center on mythbuntu or gutsy? [01:00] because I have a mythbuntu vm [01:00] mythbuntu is gutsy [01:01] right [01:01] either [01:01] actually both would be ideal [01:01] i've tested it in a littered gutsy vm [01:01] but gutsy daily wont boot but mythbuntu gutsy will [01:01] but that's it at this point [01:01] Question superm1: I've found a reference, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/19386.html , that suggests, after finding the device (/dev/hda3) and the uuid from pvscan (which I did before hand) I can do pvcreate --uuid myuuid /dev/hda3 [01:01] Does that sound right, I don't want to trash the data on the disks [01:01] cornell, did knoppmyth use uuid's or device names before? [01:02] http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/centre/mythbuntu-control-centre_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb [01:02] laga, tgm4883 ^ [01:02] Well heres the result of vgcfgbackup: http://cornell.pastebin.com/m3a245c89 [01:03] And my pvscan is here: http://cornell.pastebin.com/m5ff11af8 [01:03] hum. full screen in virtualbox leaves kicker visible. but only if the VM is run ning at the same res as my X screen (1280x960) [01:03] cornell, i would expect that to wipe the disk [01:03] The pvcreate? [01:04] because they describe that in solution 2 [01:04] which is replacing the disk [01:04] with another disk [01:04] and then setting the uuid on it to make it fit [01:04] well er i would say there is a distinct possibility that may happen [01:06] Could I use vgcfgrestore, feeding it the output from the vgcfgbackup? [01:09] evening superm1 [01:09] Do I need to mount /dev/hda3 and /dev/hdb1 ? Something simple like that? [01:09] cornell, not positive [01:10] cornell, no manually mounting the partitions doesn't do it [01:10] they need to be part of that group [01:10] can you dd the drive in question somewhere else? [01:10] and then attempt your pvcreate? [01:10] superm1: "gdebi" is missing from the depends for the control centre. [01:10] Right... but vgscan, etc whatever... do they find stuff that's not mounted, superm1? [01:11] laga, ah right [01:11] i'll add that [01:11] cornell, yes [01:11] it does [01:12] K [01:12] laga, see stuff like that is easily overlooked [01:13] superm1: you need to live in pbuilder [01:13] laga, it will build without gdebi [01:13] it just doesn't run without it [01:13] superm1, oh running it isn't important [01:13] note: i didn't say you need to build in pbuilder, i said you have to live in there ;) [01:14] I've found another one: http://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2003-March/msg00212.html , he describes using vgcfgbackup, then (after editing out the info for his dead drive) using that file to feed vgcfgrestore, then vgscan and vgchange -a y. How's that sound, superm1? [01:15] superm1: in the mysql tab: would it be possible to get more information if connection failed? [01:15] laga, like what? [01:15] cornell, that sounds much safer [01:15] superm1: "timed out", "wrong password" etc === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:15] laga, python-mysql doesn't tell you much more than a success fail from what i've seen [01:16] superm1: k [01:16] I can't keep screwing with this... and it's not like the data is irreplaceable... I'm diving in with the backup/restore/scan/change... [01:16] when I screw up the courage [01:16] ;-) [01:16] hehe [01:16] there you go [01:16] that's the spirit [01:17] you know what they say [01:17] if it ain't broke, you haven't played with it enough [01:18] "if it ain't broke, you're not trying to get any work done" [01:18] *sigh* [01:18] my bitterness is fueled by broken software === foxxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:19] if it is broke, then tgm4883 must have touched it [01:19] in my client's case, its more like "if aint broke, they don't own it" [01:20] foxxbuntu, you got a vm that you can tear loose with that app too? [01:20] so, if it is broke, cha-ching for foxxbuntu [01:21] tgm4883_laptop, thats right...the place I work for charges alot too [01:21] :) [01:21] superm1, I could set one up [01:21] that's what i'm waiting for mine to install too :) [01:21] just finished downloading tribe 4 [01:21] Gore I get nervous at times like this [01:22] ah...I loaded tribe 4 on my laptop earlier [01:22] well there you go [01:22] your good to go [01:22] maybe i should get tribe 4 [01:22] oh what app are you talking about? [01:23] control center [01:23] http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/centre/mythbuntu-control-centre_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb [01:23] ok [01:24] tgm4883, *centre* :) [01:24] whoops [01:24] my bad [01:24] yea its French...or something [01:24] i think we should call it center. Isn't that what the revolutionary war was all about? [01:25] zentrum [01:25] hey in a vm, should i install the alternate cd (in virtualbox) or will the reg cd wrok [01:26] superm1: is it ready to be translated? [01:26] reg one works [01:26] ok [01:26] laga, as long as it works :) [01:26] i've only tried it on feisty by backporting the gutsy pieces necessary and in a really dirty gutsy vm [01:26] ooh, python backtrace [01:27] uh oh? [01:27] doing what/ [01:27] in the middle of downloading lots of packages.. eg installing the frontend, chaging to xubuntu role [01:28] that's really odd..... [01:28] www.pastebin.ca/660410 [01:28] maybe i hit the X ubtton [01:28] hum [01:28] well i didn't implement that function [01:28] lets see where it was needed [01:28] the show_alert only comes up when there is an error [01:29] maybe it's trying to download a missing packaghe -> i need to apt-get update [01:29] it's reproducible [01:29] yea i see the problem [01:29] let me fix it really quick and give you another deb [01:30] you need a repo ;) [01:30] Here goes, wish me luck [01:30] apt-get update fixed it [01:31] that missing textview_hig is something else though that needed to be fixed [01:31] and i wouldn't have caught unless a case like this happened :) [01:31] Dang... [01:31] tuxfamily repo? [01:31] Parse error at byte 3 (line 1): unexpected token [01:31] Couldn't read volume group metadata. [01:31] Restore failed. [01:32] ops... top got truncated, nm === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:32] okay that issue is fixed at the same url [01:33] superm1: would be cool if one could choose a mirror near them [01:33] mmm.... [01:33] Can't process text format file - unrecognised contents field. [01:33] Restore failed. [01:33] laga, demands demands.... [01:34] it uses the repo already configured for apt [01:34] superm1: i was talking about apt. just a general rant, nothing about the control centre [01:34] superm1: the control centre is great, btw. i'd print the source and take it to bed, but the GF might object to that [01:34] haha [01:36] now it's hanging trying to download a file (still with the old .deb) [01:36] it's probably trying to access mythbuntu.org [01:36] check netstat [01:36] you can replace the mythbuntu.org repo with another one temporarily that i have up [01:37] er wait for gutsy no [01:37] for feisty its up [01:37] I don't suppose anyone can tell me what's wrong with the vgcfgbackup file indicated in: http://cornell.pastebin.com/m3a245c89 [01:37] ? [01:37] hum [01:37] VM's offline suddenly [01:38] cornell, i don't know for sure what it should be looking like [01:38] so no [01:38] "no dhcpoffers received". *sigh* [01:39] I found it... when it truncated, it started with..nm I left out "Format" from the contents entry... [01:40] Now, I'm getting... [01:40] PV /dev/hdb1 is a different format (seqno lvm2) [01:40] Restore failed. [01:43] I'd looked at parted and saw it, now I parted, and I don't see /dev/hdb !? [01:44] Ah, I had to ask for it specifically (I don't remember that) [01:44] why oh why has my networking in virtualbox just stopped working === gcleric_ [n=ericjk@74.95.16.13] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:47] laga, virtualbox? [01:47] yes. [01:47] www.virtualbox.org [01:48] do you have nat setup or real networking? [01:48] nat is broken [01:48] just setting up real networking again === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:05] superm1, want to send that link again [02:05] I had problems with my wifi there for a bit [02:05] http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/centre/mythbuntu-control-centre_0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb [02:06] how big is the package? [02:07] 32.6KB? [02:07] yea [02:07] k [02:08] just wanted to make sure I don't have strange shit going on still [02:08] I am grabbing the remainder of update [02:08] s [02:08] mmm.... I've found /etc/lvm/backup/vg created this evening. It seems to be the same as my vgcfgrestore output... [02:10] woohoo!!!! For reasons I don't understand, I did a vgscan.... It found the vg!!!! [02:10] wow awesome [02:10] superm1, what kernel is tribe 4 using? [02:10] i dunno [02:10] ok [02:10] Im pretty sure I have it though, it did a partial distro upgrade today [02:10] woohoo!!!! pvscan has results too!!!For reasons I don't understand, I did a vgscan.... It found the vg!!!! [02:11] ehhem.... woohoo!!!! pvscan has results too!!! [02:11] lol [02:12] I love the package name for firefox now [02:12] ok, this is annoying. g'nightz [02:12] foxbuntu: what is it? [02:13] laga, ubufox [02:13] heh [02:13] nice one [02:14] superm1, brb...gotta reboot [02:15] Dang.... I think I've got it back!!! [02:15] What do I do now? [02:16] Ah, wait I remember... === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:18] It was, on the other machine, /myth. I understand the default for mythbuntu is /lib/var/myth (or something like that)... and my mySQL dump refers to /myth. So... I need to either 1. have it mounted as one with a symbolic to the other, or 2. change the default to /myth. Opinions? [02:18] symbolic link is probably easiest [02:19] um... what is the default? I don't have a /lib/var, could it be /var/lib ? [02:19] /var/lib/mythtv/recordings [02:19] is where it goes i believe [02:23] Ok... I'm going to mkdir /myth and then mount /dev/vg/myth /myth and see what's there, sound like a good idea? [02:24] well no i say you do it this wya [02:24] superm1, I have the control centre up [02:24] mount it to /var/lib/mythtv/recordings [02:24] and then make that a symlink to /myth [02:24] well either way [02:24] just make one of them a symlink [02:24] i'd say /myth since that is not LSB anyhow [02:25] Well... I don't know if there's a recordings directory already there. So if I do /myth, I can ls -la and then symlink /var/lib/whatever to /myth.... oh... not LSB? === cornell wonders what LSB means [02:25] linux standards base [02:25] AH [02:25] superm1, the AMDCC doesn't do anything [02:26] foxbuntu, then you don't have amdcccle installed [02:26] it should be greyed out [02:26] ok [02:26] but its not [02:26] it's not? [02:26] nope [02:26] I can click it [02:26] well do you have amdcccle installed? [02:26] Ok... of course I could create /var/lib/myth, mount and look and then add recordings later, if necessary [02:26] not that I am aware of [02:26] well the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings directory is already there [02:26] foxbuntu, can you do ls /usr/bin/amd* [02:26] and see? [02:27] so that's why i was saying its probably easiest to mount it there and then just make your symlink [02:27] ok its there [02:27] can you run it? [02:27] No, it's not. But then I've not run myth setup [02:27] I have /usr/bin/amdcccle [02:28] nope its broken [02:28] :) [02:28] okay so not the control centre's problem :) [02:28] lol [02:28] guess not [02:28] well mine works here [02:28] but i'm on a newer driver than exists [02:29] oh this is sweet [02:29] great work superm1 [02:29] oo-ra!!! [02:29] I got data!!!! [02:29] :) [02:29] The directory, on the vg has some 19 directories in it (some are mine) [02:29] superm1, great work on the control centre [02:30] So it should be under ..... /recordings? [02:30] foxbuntu, is it all working ? :) [02:30] looks to be [02:30] i'm still waiting on my vm to finish installing [02:30] great [02:30] cornell, /var/lib/mythtv/recordings i think [02:31] Now... what should the permissions be.... whose the owner and group? [02:32] mythtv:mythtv [02:32] sudo chown /var/lib/mythtv and /var/lib/mythtv/recordings? [02:32] oops... left out the mythtv:mythtv ;-) [02:32] just do it recursive [02:32] Ah -r [02:32] or -R [02:34] NOw.... load mySQL before, or after, running mythtv setup? [02:34] you mean your backup? [02:35] Yeah, I'd done a mysqldump before starting this [02:35] well you should do mythtv-setup here first i'd say [02:35] i.e. it points to /myth for the location of files, but has ... config parametres from the knoppmyth [02:35] and then copy in the tables you need from your dump [02:36] aH... TABLE BY TABLE COOLS [02:36] oops [02:36] my bad, caps lock [02:37] Ok... now, this is funky... the machines sitting at the mythbuntu desktop, there's an icon MythTV Setup... I click it, nada. double-click, nada. [02:37] Oh... and do I have to change fstab or something to mount the vg when I reboot? [02:39] try launching it from a command line [02:39] right click the desktop [02:39] and type mythtv-setup [02:39] and see if that comes up as expected [02:40] Termnial emulator... sudo mythtv-setup command not found === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:42] without sudo... it says it's not installed, I should apt-get it. [02:42] it's not installed? [02:42] that's really odd [02:42] you did a backend/frontend install did you not? [02:43] I stand corrected, it suggests installing mythtv-backend. [02:43] Yes front and back, but I stopped before configuring myth [02:43] Shoudl I start mythtv-backend? [02:43] still should have been there. [02:43] really weird [02:43] you've hit some odd stuff in general [02:44] it starts for you after running mythtv-setup [02:45] Tell me about it... First thing I did after the partial install, apt-get install openssh-server. Ends up with list of names, and suggesting running autoremove. I did, and whole pile of stuff went away. [02:45] ohh that's what happened [02:45] Should I do an apt-get install mythtv-backend and frontend? [02:45] yea that is something that was discovered later [02:45] don't autoremove :) [02:45] (and it turns out openssh-server was already there [02:45] :-( [02:46] that's gonna be fixed next alpha around (the marking of those apps) [02:46] as autoremovable [02:47] So what do I do now, some apt-gets, try the install again from the livecd, make a sacrifice to tux? [02:48] well with mythbuntu.org down, the easy way to install the meta to get it all back isn't availble [02:48] so it's a bit of a messy situation [02:48] so i'd say probably apt-get's [02:48] since you've got most of everythign else back [02:48] you lost all the fun preconfigured stuff that was supposed to be done for you :) [02:48] all the magic [02:49] Can I apt-get mythtv? Or I do mythtv-backend, frontend etc. [02:49] :( no magic [02:49] yes that will work [02:49] apt-get install mythtv ? [02:49] yes [02:50] And... do I need to do something so that the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings gets re-mounted at reboot? [02:51] put it in your /etc/fstab [02:52] Can I do a mount and then see the line for it and copy into /etc/fstab ? [02:52] i dont think that gets you a perfect copy and paste [02:52] but you can use that data to write your line === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-16-102.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:55] Ok... I'd done a: sudo mount /dev/vg/myth /var/lib/mythtv/recordings [02:55] so just follow the syntax in the /etc/fstab [02:55] but mount shows: /dev/dm-0 on /var/lib/mythtv/recordings type ext3 (rw) [02:55] what kind of magic do you have to pull on a fresh gutsy vm in virtualbox [02:55] it should be that first one, , the second one and then follow the others they have listed [02:56] Note the difference between /dev/dm-0 and /dev/vg/myth [02:56] tgm4883_laptop, use a tribe 4 disk not a daily? [02:56] cornell, that's fine [02:56] i did [02:56] it's likely symlinking [02:56] it installed, i tried to install vbox additions, then rebooted and I got the error where it tries to start gdm 6 times [02:57] hm [02:57] i dunno what could have happened there === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-51-126.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:57] Ok, so the fstab line would be: /dev/vg/myth /var/lib/mythtv/recordings ext3 [02:57] well i'll reinstall it, no vbox additions this time [02:58] Any options, dump or pass? [02:58] i dont think so [02:58] Is rw the options? [02:58] defaults will do [02:58] just: [02:58] default [02:58] defaults [02:59] K [03:00] Ok, done. [03:00] So, now... in a terminal I can run sudo mythtv-setup, right? [03:01] (I did the apt-get installmythtv) [03:01] no sudo needed [03:01]