[12:31] <Pumpernickel> Catoptromancy: Disable emulation of a three button mouse in xorg.
[12:31] <Catoptromancy> cool
[12:31] <Catoptromancy> thx
[12:32] <Catoptromancy> umm
[12:32] <Catoptromancy> im not sure where to find xorg
[12:34] <Catoptromancy> !xorg
[12:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:35] <Catoptromancy> Pumpernickel, where is it?
[12:38] <Pumpernickel> It's an option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:38] <Catoptromancy> /etc/x11/ heh i think
[12:38] <Catoptromancy> heh google found it
[12:40] <Catoptromancy> Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"false"
[12:40] <Catoptromancy> Still doesnt work
[12:41] <Catoptromancy> should i erase that one line?
[12:41] <Pumpernickel> It should default to false, so yes.
[12:44] <Catoptromancy> = (
[12:44] <Catoptromancy> line is totally gone
[12:44] <Catoptromancy> do i need reboot
[12:46] <Catoptromancy_> yay
[12:46] <Catoptromancy_> just needed a reboot
[12:46] <Pumpernickel> Reboot: no, restart X: yes.
[12:46] <Catoptromancy_> well just logged off and on =)
[12:47] <Catoptromancy_> figured it would be as good as reboot
[12:47] <Catoptromancy_> mmm wall rocket jumps are now possible = )
[12:47] <Catoptromancy_> thanks
[12:48] <Pumpernickel> Wow... I guess he just discovered Nexuiz.
[12:50] <_nixMan> what desktop env does xubuntu use?
[12:50] <vidd> xfce
[01:19] <vidd> where do i look for iptables that are set wrong?
[02:13] <noobuser> is it possible to create a software raid 1 when in the live cd and have ubuntu 7 install into that? if so, is there any documentation on how to do that?
[02:29] <root____2> Quick question, anyone know why my system would be unable to mnt an ntfs file system?
[02:30] <IG> root@ps3:/mnt# mount /dev/sde1 /mnt/whore
[02:30] <IG> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs'
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> !language | IG
[02:36] <ubotu> IG: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> It looks like you don't have ntfs support.
[02:37] <Pumpernickel> Ntfs-3g is the current best option.
[02:39] <IG> well
[02:39] <IG> do I need to install a package of some kind ?
[02:39] <IG> I tried mount -t ntfs /dev/sde1 /mnt/whore
[02:41] <IG> Should also note that this is on a playstaion 3
[02:45] <Pumpernickel> Not having ntfs support in a PS3 release wouldn't surprise me.
[02:45] <Pumpernickel> So, yes, if the ntfs-3g package is available for the PS3 port, you would likely need to install it yourself.
[02:46] <Pumpernickel> Oh, and again - watch the language.
[02:47] <IG> well, installed it...
[02:47] <IG> Still doesn't work.
[02:47] <IG> but, maybe I need to reboot :)
[02:47] <IG> ANd sorry about the language, I just happend to use that word for the directory :|
[02:48] <Pumpernickel> It's a FUSE module.
[02:48] <IG> Noticed that it said something about users in the Fuse group could mount an ntfs volume.
[02:48] <IG> I don't know what FUSE is ;)
[02:48] <IG> <-= newb :)
[02:49] <Pumpernickel> !fuse
[02:49] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[03:00] <Dark_Shado1> hi
[03:01] <Dark_Shado1> should i install xubuntu for my old p3 800mhz with 256mb ram ?
[03:01] <Pumpernickel> If you think you'd like it, sure.
[03:01] <IG> well, i'll come back later pumper ;)
[03:01] <IG> thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[03:02] <Dark_Shado1> nop if i can install ubuntu that will be more great
[03:02] <Dark_Shado1> coz i don't have the xubuntu cd
[03:02] <Pumpernickel> Do that, then.
[03:02] <Dark_Shado1> and my connexion is slow
[03:03] <Dark_Shado1> i have shipit ubuntu
[04:57] <xubu> how can i eddit what applications are in the start menu, all i can seem to edit it the root menu itself none of the launchers
[05:05] <xubu> how can i eddit what applications are in the start menu, all i can seem to edit it the root menu itself none of the launchers
[05:07] <vidd_laptop> xubu, what you are talking about are the installed apps...placed based on some organizational methodi have yet to comprehend....
[05:07] <vidd_laptop> you can only edit the root menu or add new launcers
[05:13] <emdash> xubu: there has to be a .desktop entry in /usr/share/applications in order for it to appear in the menu
[05:15] <emdash> there's also the menu editor in the start menu
[05:15] <emdash> applications menu > settings > menu editor
[05:17] <emdash> however that just edits the root level
[05:17] <emdash> but you could use it to add custom launchers, if you wanted
[05:23] <s|k> where's a good place to mount a new hard drive?
[05:23] <kalikiana_> xubu, You can also place launchers/ desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications
[05:23] <kalikiana_> s|k, Usually /mnt, less often /media
[05:23] <s|k> thanks
[05:24] <kalikiana_> Incidentally /media is an invention of ubuntu.
[05:24] <s|k> I had no idea
[05:25] <kalikiana_> No worries, everybody has to start somewhere :)
[05:25] <s|k> :)
[05:25] <s|k> I'm actually installing slackware :P
[05:28] <kalikiana_> s|k, I'm on zenwalk. :D
[05:29] <s|k> what's that?
[05:29] <xubu> how can i eddit what applications are in the start menu, all i can seem to edit it the root menu itself none of the launchers
[05:29] <kalikiana_> s|k, Zenwalk is a distro, a kind of a child of slackware. => zenwalk.org
[05:29] <s|k> ah
[05:29] <s|k> does it have gnome?
[05:30] <s|k> slackware doesn't have gnome
[05:30] <s|k> :\
[05:30] <kalikiana_> xubu, Didn't you read my adivce?
[05:30] <kalikiana_> s|k, There are packages, yes. Although I don't use them.
[05:31] <s|k> zenwalk loooks nice
[05:31] <kalikiana_> s|k, You could get most from the standard mirror and the 'rest' from user packages.
[05:31] <kalikiana_> It's bazing fast. :)
[05:31] <s|k> what kind of package system does it use?
[05:31] <xubu> kalikiana_, missed it sorry,  thanks for the help
[05:32] <kalikiana_> xubu, You're welcome :)
[05:36] <xubu> kalikiana_, is there any way i can edit the existing menus though? i want to remove some of the apps i dont use from the menu, and add others i do
[05:36] <kalikiana_> xubu, Yes. You need to edit the files in /usr/share/applications and /usr/local/share/applications.
[05:37] <kalikiana_> Adding is fine with ~/.local/share/applications
[05:43] <vidd_laptop> does wodim need root (sudo) permissions?
[05:44] <xubu> kalikiana_: hey i got disconnected. I found the menu editor but where the applictaions entried would be, it says "-- include--"
[05:45] <vidd_laptop> right...that means they are included
[05:45] <kalikiana_> xubu, Unfortunately you can't use the menu editor. You need to edit the files in the said folders.
[05:45] <vidd_laptop> from that location
[05:45] <kalikiana_> ^^ You need to edit the files in /usr/share/applications and /usr/local/share/applications.
[06:24] <m0u5e> why does bcm-fwcutter not work in xubuntu? :(
[06:24] <m0u5e> am i doing something wrong?
[06:24] <m0u5e> i have a linksys wireless PCMCIA card (broadcom, bleugh)... it detects i have a wireless card, but it wont connect :X
[06:48] <eagle-101> oy... ok if xarchiver fails to fully extract a file because there is no space on the drive.... how do i recover the space that the failed extrat takes up? (the extract took up over 8 gigs... I'd like it back
[06:49] <eagle-101> m0u5e: if its broadcom you have to do some twiddling
[06:49] <eagle-101> can you tell me what the exact module is?
[07:28] <m0u5e> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[07:28] <m0u5e> eagle-101: ah sorry it took so long, i was afk for a little bit
[07:30] <m0u5e> i remember installing bcm-fwcutter last time, and it worked, but recently i tried it on a xubuntu machine and it didnt work
[07:30] <m0u5e> seeing that i just reformatted with xubuntu, i really want to get it right the first time -_-;
[07:31] <vidd> m0u5e, it is super easy now
[07:32] <vidd> just apt-get install it (dont use synaptic)
[07:32] <cellofellow> use aptitude dumby.
[07:32] <cellofellow> not apt-get
[07:32] <vidd> follow the prompts...bang...done
[07:32] <cellofellow> oh, it's debconf-based? Sweet!
[07:34] <vidd> m0u5e, do you prefer aptitude or apt-get?
[07:35] <cellofellow> stupidness about the aptitude v. apt-get debate is that they are so similar that there is really no footing for a good argument either way.
[07:36] <cellofellow> m0u5e: oh, and I was calling vidd dumby, not you.
[07:36] <vidd> exactly...use which ever you prefer
[07:36] <cellofellow> sorry vidd, didn't mean to be that rude.
[07:37] <vidd> pfft....water off a duck's back!
[07:37] <cellofellow> lol
[07:37] <vidd> i have 9 years service in the army...you have to do better then THAT to offend me!
[07:39] <BFTD> ?
[07:39] <cellofellow> ah, I have two little brothers and a little sister, and a mom.
[07:39] <vidd> BFTD, sorry to hear that
[07:39] <BFTD> Air Force actually
[07:39] <m0u5e> vidd: huh? oh, i usually use apt-get... is there a noticeable difference?
[07:39] <vidd> no
[07:40] <m0u5e> vidd: so i should get bcm cutter using the term, rather than synaptic, any particular reason why? (just curious)
[07:40] <cellofellow> m0u5e: there is a noticable difference when something breaks or you uninstall something.
[07:40] <m0u5e> vidd: should i go ahead and plug in the PCMCIA before i install it, or after?
[07:40] <m0u5e> cellofellow: lol
[07:40] <vidd> yeah...synaptic will look like it is hanging....but its really waiting for input
[07:41] <m0u5e> agh :X
[07:43] <cellofellow> is it that way in Ubuntu or Kubuntu, or just Xubuntu? And does it depend on your video driver?
[07:44] <m0u5e> gah, this is what happened http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34027/
[07:44] <m0u5e> vidd: i'm still on feisty
[07:46] <vidd> then get the file from my downloads page.... jttp://vidd.us/downloads
[07:46] <cellofellow> jttp?
[07:46] <m0u5e> hehe i think i found it, thx though :D
[07:47] <vidd> http://www.vidd.us/downloads
[07:47] <cellofellow> java text transfer protocol or something?
[07:47] <BFTD> judo ttp!!!
[07:47] <cellofellow> haha
[07:47] <BFTD> awwww
[07:47] <vidd> bite me!
[07:47] <cellofellow> J tends to mean Java in IT stuff.
[07:48] <m0u5e> gah its a dead link, ill use yorus lol thx
[07:48] <maxamillion> as does py mean python :)
[07:48] <m0u5e> vidd: wheres apsta.o? :D
[07:49] <vidd> on my downloads page....
[07:49] <vidd> damit!
[07:49] <vidd> ill get it back
[07:50] <vidd> http://www.vidd.us/downloads/index.php?path=deb/
[07:50] <vidd> someone "organized" my downloads page for me!
[07:51] <cellofellow> prolly Jester, who else has access?
[07:52] <m0u5e> vidd: dont worry, i found it :D
[07:52] <vidd> i know...but he might not know him
[07:52] <cellofellow> huh?
[07:53] <vidd> cellofellow, telling m0u5e that jester organized my page wouldnt matter to him if he dont know who jester is
[07:54] <cellofellow> I wasn't talking to him, thouh.
[07:54] <cellofellow> sure sounds funny reading back. I suppose he now assumes Ryan always plays little jokes.
[07:54] <vidd> i told him "someone" instead of "jester"
[07:54] <cellofellow> I can assure Jester45 doesn't jest much.
[07:55] <cellofellow> ok, whatever
[07:55] <vidd> i know it was jester....i remember him saying he was going to tidy up,,,,
[07:55] <vidd> yeah...not important
[07:56] <vidd> m0u5e, you good now? or you need help yet?
[07:56] <H264> after using XGl for compiz-fusion, I just now swiched back to the default session, and now I get no title bars or boarders for the windows... anybody have a few commands I could try?
[07:56] <H264> err
[07:56] <H264> that was weird
[07:56] <cellofellow> xfwm4
[07:57] <vidd> H264, come together on its own as you were typing?
[07:57] <cellofellow> alt+f2, xfwm4
[07:58] <cellofellow> although, without xfwm running the alt+f2 may not work.
[07:58] <H264> vidd, no, the first line I typed did was not showing
[07:58] <H264> is that Xubuntu specific? X-)
[07:58] <cellofellow> Yes. Ubuntu uses Metacity and Kubuntu uses KWin.
[07:59] <vidd> night all
[08:00] <H264> ok, well, sorry if I am asking in the wrong channel... #ubuntu is so busy, can't really get any answers ther
[08:00] <m0u5e> vidd: :X
[08:00] <H264> there*
[08:00] <m0u5e> vidd: wow tihs is frustrating, even the ubuntu repos they gave me in the help forum is useless
[08:00] <m0u5e> vidd: i need a apsta.o, that it should auto dl from some website, but the websites gone 404 :X
[08:00] <cellofellow> vidd's not here
[08:01] <cellofellow> dang, that sucks.
[08:01] <cellofellow> Is this a wifi driver issue? sorry, I've no experience with wifi.
[08:01] <H264> cellofellow: thanks, metacity did it :)
[08:01] <m0u5e> i need my apsta.o  T_T
[08:02] <m0u5e> trying to get composite manager working? :D
[08:03] <cellofellow> H264: what video card and driver do you have, btw?
[08:03] <H264> I'm running 64bit with ATI :-x
[08:04] <H264> X1600
[08:05] <H264> the driver is whatever ATI has for linux (which sucks)
[08:05] <cellofellow> yeah, you need XGL and can't use AIGLX.
[08:05] <cellofellow> AIGLX is better, but only for most nVidia cards and a few ATI.
[08:05] <H264> right
[08:06] <H264> not time for some planeshift :)
[08:06] <H264> *now
[08:36] <m0u5e> everytime i intialize nm-applet i get this error: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found         anyone know why?
[09:20] <m0u5e> how do i run nm-applet through a term and then tell it to run stand alone, without the term?
[09:44] <bart_17> good day... i had a problem when i tried to install the xubuntu alternate install cd on my pc.. it detects my ide hd as a scsi hd.... SDA instead of HDA?
[10:20] <ceil420> [amsg]  Sorry, but it seems that iPerl's seen database was recently wiped. I don't know when it happened or how, but let's just hope it doesn't happen again? >< (peace'n'love)
[10:44] <m0u5e> bart_17: sda is not scsi its sata :D
[10:56] <bart_17> ok.. but still i cant configure my ide drive because its being detected as a scsi or sata...
[12:42] <whyking_> hi
[12:42] <whyking_> what command does xfce issue when I press hibernate?
[12:48] <whyking_> and why doesn't it need super user privleges?
[01:10] <looping_> hello
[01:11] <looping_> does anyone know what might be the problem with this : http://www.flickr.com/photos/cybertooth/1146999379/ ?
[01:57] <Pumpernickel> looping_: That would be a bug.
[01:57] <Pumpernickel> !bugs
[01:57] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:58] <looping_> I sent a ticket to Gajim developers
[01:58] <looping_> http://trac.gajim.org/ticket/3373
[03:50] <SoulChild> Hello I want to load my asus module to use hotkey, but i get:  "FATAL: Error inserting asus_laptop (/lib/modules/2.6.22-9-generic/kernel/drivers/misc/asus-laptop.ko): No such device"
[04:06] <Thunderman> Hi
[04:06] <Thunderman> I can't install 6.10
[04:07] <Thunderman> http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=844374.png
[04:08] <Thunderman> Does anyone konow how I can download it? :)
[04:12] <Thunderman> Maybe I should try just boot 4.04
[04:12] <Thunderman> *7.04
[04:15] <Thunderman> And install Xbuntu again
[04:15] <Thunderman> *Xubuntu
[04:15] <looping_> Thunderman: you'll still have your apps' prefs
[04:16] <Thunderman> So what i should do :)
[04:17] <looping_> Reinstalling from scratch is the method I use more often
[04:17] <looping_> but it's because I come from the Windows world...
[04:18] <Thunderman> What I need to reinstall and how
[04:19] <Thunderman> I'm using 6.06
[04:30] <Thunderman> So difficult :(
[04:32] <mattgyver83> thunderman, you just want to install?
[04:34] <Thunderman> Newer version
[04:34] <mattgyver83> Did you download and burn a live cd?
[04:34] <Thunderman> 6.10 and after that 7.04+
[04:34] <Thunderman> Yeah
[04:34] <Thunderman> i have installed live-cd
[04:34] <mattgyver83> so you want to install 7.04 correct?
[04:35] <Thunderman> Now i have 6.06 "Desktop CD"
[04:35] <Thunderman> And I have installed it to HDD
[04:36] <Thunderman> http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=844374.png
[04:36] <mattgyver83> Im  new to xubuntu but it doesnt seem like it has an update manager persay.  You will probably just have to download the 7.04 live cd and burn then install that
[04:36] <Thunderman> That's what happed when I try to install 6.10
[04:37] <mattgyver83> did that not work?
[04:37] <Thunderman> I'll maybe try later installing 7.04 form lice-cd
[04:37] <mattgyver83> Thats what i would do, in fact, its what i did
[04:37] <Thunderman> ok
[04:37] <mattgyver83> But... you might be able to.... hold on one second
[04:39] <mattgyver83> Yeah, i think thats what your going to have to do.  It doesnt look like package management is an option for an update.
[04:39] <mattgyver83> at least not from what i can tell
[04:40] <mattgyver83> But im not quite use to xubuntu yet.  I use it in limited amounts on one of my machines.
[04:40] <neozen> it'll grow on you
[04:42] <Thunderman> I have HP 7200+ CD-RW but it doesn't write or delete files in CD. Same problem was also in XP
[04:42] <mattgyver83> thunderman, this kinda explains how you can update via apt-get
[04:42] <mattgyver83> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-7e4d0a8850f88d770c9e373ca84c3a78703a58ad
[04:43] <mattgyver83> In your case, if all you did was install 6.x and didnt install any packages or install any drivers or anything it should work fine.  Otherwise it looks like its a headache if your machine is already 'configured'
[04:44] <mattgyver83> ....after reading this..... just install 7.04 from live cd ";\
[04:45] <Thunderman> I'll try :)
[04:45] <Thunderman> "Upgrading using apt-get -- NOT RECOMMENDED"
[04:46] <mattgyver83> Oh crap, there is an update manager
[04:46] <mattgyver83> from command line,  gksu "update-manager -c"
[04:47] <Thunderman> It didn't work
[04:47] <mattgyver83> did you type the gksu and the " ?
[04:47] <mattgyver83> i got it to come up
[04:47] <Thunderman> gksu "update-manager -c"
[04:47] <mattgyver83> yup
[04:48] <Thunderman> And update manager opened
[04:48] <mattgyver83> does it say a new version is avaliable to download at the top?
[04:48] <Thunderman> t terminal?
[04:48] <mattgyver83> (im using 7.04 so i dont see that, but i know in ubuntu im using 6.10 and i see it all the time to download 7.04, same manager)
[04:49] <Thunderman> *at
[04:49] <mattgyver83> no, on the update manager
[04:49] <Thunderman> yeah and i could upgrade to 6.10 but in didn't woek
[04:49] <Thunderman> *work
[04:50] <mattgyver83> What do you mean, didnt work?  Like nothing happend?
[04:51] <Thunderman> http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=844374.png
[04:51] <mattgyver83> if nothing else, install all of your updates then try it again.
[04:51] <Thunderman> This happend
[04:51] <Thunderman> And i have installed all updates
[04:52] <mattgyver83> very interesting
[04:56] <mattgyver83> hmm.....
[05:05] <mattgyver83> Only thing i can think is that update manager is ubuntu specific not xubuntu specific and basically it wants to update from xubuntu 6.x to ubuntu 6.x which it wont do
[05:07] <Thunderman> It could be possible. But I started to use Xubuntu few days ago
[05:32] <dvinchi666_newbi> ./configure c compiler cannot create executables
[05:32] <dvinchi666_newbi> xubuntu alternate
[05:32] <dvinchi666_newbi> what i do?
[05:33] <dvinchi666_newbi> i dont have internet in the machine with xubuntu alternate
[05:37] <xubu> i recently switched from ubuntu to xubuntu, but in xubuntu i get crappy font displays, only in webpages though, not the desktop
[05:37] <xubu> any advice?
[05:37] <xubu> i have an lcd and its running at propper resolution
[05:40] <rici> check the default font for the web browser
[05:41] <xubu> it says its Loma
[05:43] <BFTD> yeah change it
[05:43] <xubu> to?
[05:43] <rici> something which renders better :)
[05:43] <BFTD> no idea
[05:43] <BFTD> you pick one you like
[05:45] <rici> mine's just set to "serif" and it looks ok
[05:50] <xubu> i tried the serif and a bunch others, it still looks garbled
[05:50] <xubu> as if it needs AA or cleartype
[05:52] <BFTD> hrm? AA batteries?
[05:52] <xubu> anti-aliasing
[05:53] <xubu> its makes the text look as if my lcd was not in its native resolution
[05:53] <Thunderman> How can I install Firefox 2
[05:54] <xubu> sudo aptitude install firefox
[05:54] <xubu> should work
[05:54] <Thunderman> ok
[05:54] <Thunderman> Thanks :)
[05:55] <xubu> no problem
[05:55] <Thunderman> With that command can install all kind of files, like Flash Player...?
[05:55] <xubu> yea
[05:56] <xubu> the tricky part is getting the name right
[05:56] <xubu> i would suggest
[05:56] <xubu> using synaptic package manager
[05:56] <xubu> in the system menu
[05:56] <Thunderman> I installed it but how can i use it/found it :/
[05:57] <xubu> should be under the applications menu
[05:57] <Thunderman> But it isn't :/
[05:57] <xubu> alternatively you can use alt+f2
[05:57] <xubu> and type firefox
[05:57] <xubu> and hit run
[05:58] <BFTD> Thunderman I would suggest NOT using synaptic
[05:58] <Thunderman> Should i delete "old" firefox (1.5)?
[05:58] <BFTD> instead to find the files you want, do "apt-cache search <file>"
[05:58] <Thunderman> is it possible
[05:59] <BFTD> Thunderman what version do you have? 6.06?
[05:59] <Thunderman> Yeah'
[05:59] <xubu> bftd whats wrong with synaptic?
[06:00] <BFTD> xubu it has its problems, such as breaking things
[06:00] <xubu> bftd: ah good to know
[06:01] <BFTD> but yeah, I would highly recommend not using it as much as possible
[06:01] <xubu> BFTD: now that you introduced me to apt-cache search i dont think i will have to, ty for the tip
[06:01] <BFTD> when it uninstalls stuff, it doesn't it differently I believe, I'm not to sure what all the problems are about.
[06:01] <BFTD> haha
[06:01] <BFTD> no problem
[06:02] <BFTD> apt-get -h
[06:02] <BFTD> man apt-get
[06:02] <xubu> BFTD: now ive been advised to install things with aptitude not apt-get
[06:02] <xubu> BFTD: any input on that?
[06:03] <BFTD> they're almost the exact same, I use aptitude
[06:03] <xubu> BFTD: just makes sure all deps are installed along with the app no?
[06:03] <BFTD> for no real reason though
[06:03] <BFTD> yeah, they both do that
[06:03] <Thunderman> When i press "ALT + F2", i typed a Firefox 2 but 1.5 opened
[06:04] <Thunderman> *pressed
[06:04] <xubu> hmm
[06:06] <xubu> Thunderman: i would suggest removing firefox and using swiftfox, its based off firefox and actually uses the newer gecko engine
[06:06] <xubu> Thunderman: mainly its much more lightweight, less of a memory hog
[06:06] <Thunderman> How can i remove it
[06:07] <xubu> sudo aptitude remove firefox
[06:07] <Thunderman> ok
[06:07] <xubu> then goto http://getswiftfox.com/installer.htm
[06:08] <xubu> all firefox addons and themes work with swiftfox, you wont notice any diffrence aside from it being faster
[06:08] <Thunderman> ok
[06:10] <xubu> lemme know if everything goes ok with installing swiftox
[06:11] <Thunderman> ok
[06:12] <Thunderman> I think i removed firefox but I still can use it
[06:13] <xubu> strange
[06:13] <xubu> go ahead and install swiftfox, it shouldnt conflict
[06:14] <rici> xubu: you might need to enable AA
[06:14] <Thunderman> sudo aptitude install swiftbox ?
[06:14] <xubu> rici: i enabled aa in the display settings but it only affected my desktop fonts
[06:14] <DaBeowulf> 'lo, can anybody tell me if one of these should run on Feisty?: http://rpmseek.com/rpm-pl/xsidplay-libsidplay2.html?hl=com&cx=1999:X:200
[06:15] <xubu> Thunderman: http://getswiftfox.com/installer.htm
[06:15] <uptownben> What would be the best way to setup my system so I can pick up any open wifi signal and connect and surf?
[06:15] <xubu> Thunderman: download the file corresponding to your processor and follow the instructions on the page
[06:15] <uptownben> or scan for local wifi
[06:16] <Thunderman> I have done that
[06:16] <xubu> Thunderman: you ran the script?
[06:17] <xubu> uptownben: Wifi-radar
[06:18] <xubu> uptownben: very good app acomplished what your asking for
[06:18] <Thunderman> When i opened "install-swiftbox.sh" mousepad opened and it was full of text "echo "Password required to install to /opt directory..."
[06:18] <Thunderman> echo " "
[06:18] <Thunderman> cd /opt
[06:18] <Thunderman> sudo wget http://getswiftfox.com/builds/releases/2.0.0.6/swiftfox-2.0.0.6-pentium2.tar.bz2"
[06:18] <Thunderman> That's just a peace of it
[06:18] <xubu> Thunderman: open a terminal window
[06:19] <Thunderman> sudo wget http://getswiftfox.com/builds/releases/2.0.0.6/swiftfox-2.0.0.6-pentium2.tar.bz2
[06:19] <Thunderman> Now it's downloading something
[06:19] <xubu> Thunderman: you ran the script with "sh install-swiftfox.sh"?
[06:20] <Thunderman> no i didn't
[06:21] <xubu> Thunderman: Download the script, then open a terminal, then goto the folder the script is in i.e."/home/myusername/"
[06:21] <rici> xubu: did you enable "use sub-pixel hinting"?
[06:21] <xubu> Thunderman: and run the script with "sudo sh install-swiftfox.sh"
[06:22] <xubu> rici: yeah didnt seem to help webfonts
[06:22] <rici> oh, well. sorry. wfm.
[06:22] <Thunderman> "no such a file or directory"
[06:23] <xubu> ok lets do it step by step
[06:23] <xubu> what processor u got?
[06:24] <Thunderman> pentium 2
[06:24] <xubu> in the terminal type (without the quotes) "wget http://getswiftfox.com/builds/installer/pentium2/install-swiftfox.sh"
[06:25] <xubu> tell me when thats done
[06:25] <Thunderman> "bash: http://getswiftfox.com/builds/installer/pentium2/install-swiftfox.sh: No such file or directory"
[06:26] <BFTD> he doesn't have wget installed
[06:26] <BFTD> sudo aptitude install wget
[06:26] <Thunderman> WGET installed
[06:27] <xubu> wget http://getswiftfox.com/builds/installer/pentium2/install-swiftfox.sh
[06:27] <Thunderman> Ok
[06:27] <xubu> ok now whats your user name
[06:27] <Thunderman> "install-swiftfox.sh" tallennettu/saved
[06:28] <xubu> whats your user name on your system
[06:29] <xubu> the name you use to log in
[06:29] <xubu> ?
[06:29] <Thunderman> phillip
[06:29] <xubu> ok now type: cd /home/phillip
[06:30] <Thunderman> it says nothing
[06:30] <xubu> ok good
[06:30] <xubu> now type: sudo sh install-swiftfox.sh
[06:31] <Thunderman> It's downloading
[06:31] <SoulChild> how do i deactivate UUID's in grub/menu.lst ??? tried already to change "kopt" to "/ev/hda3" but update-grub still puts the UUID's as device names , any help would be great !
[06:31] <Thunderman> "Installing Swiftfox...
[06:31] <Thunderman> mv: tiedoston "swiftfox" tilaa ei voi lukea: No such file or directory"
[06:31] <xubu> perfect, let it finish, when its done, it should be in the applications menu, under internet, if not you can run with alt+f2 "swiftfox"
[06:32] <Thunderman> But it is in menu! :)
[06:32] <xubu> runs fine?
[06:32] <Thunderman> Swiftfox 2.0.0.6 has been installed. Happy Surfing!
[06:32] <xubu> great
[06:34] <Thunderman> But nothing happens when i try to open it
[06:34] <xubu> are you running and english system?
[06:34] <Thunderman> Finnish
[06:35] <xubu> what does tiedoston "swiftfox" tilaa ei voi lukea mean
[06:35] <tat_> hello, is there a graphical configuration tool for network settings in xubuntu ?
[06:36] <xubu> tat_: main menu>system>network
[06:36] <Thunderman> tilaa ei voi lukea = state cannot be read or something like that :D
[06:37] <tat_> xubu , i dont have that menu entrance
[06:38] <rici> tat_: don't you have the xubuntu mouse on the upper lefthand corner of your screen?
[06:38] <tat_> xubu : sorry i have it,
[06:38] <Thunderman> I think i should install 7.04
[06:39] <xubu> thunderman: ah what version are you running?
[06:39] <Thunderman> 6.06
[06:39] <xubu> thunderman: i upgraded to 7 a week ago, solved a whole host of problems for me
[06:40] <Thunderman> My problems could be also solved? ;D
[06:40] <xubu> thunderman: upgrade to 7 then use the update manager to update the system before installing anything
[06:41] <Thunderman> With live-cd?
[06:42] <xubu> thunderman: install with the live-cd yes, then run mainmenu>system>update manager
[06:42] <Thunderman> Ok
[06:43] <Thunderman> Update manager says i should update firefox
[06:45] <xubu> thunderman: maybe try that, before upgrading to 7, might not need to after the update
[06:46] <Thunderman> I deleted one update maybe one hour ago
[06:50] <Thunderman> Could reinstalling (xubuntu) solve upgrade problem, now system won't upgrade to 6.10,
[06:54] <Thunderman> Before it worked but i was busy and turn power off
[06:54] <Thunderman> Then Xubuntu didn't work so I installed again
[06:56] <xubu> Thunderman: sorry had to run to the bathroom
[06:57] <Thunderman> np
[06:58] <xubu> Thunderman: if you have the time, your best bet is just to install 7 from scratch.
[06:58] <Thunderman> Scratch?
[06:59] <xubu> im pretty sure 7 has firefox2 ad default actually
[06:59] <xubu> sorry its an american expression, it means from the start
[06:59] <xubu> as in not upgrade
[07:00] <xubu> install from scratch = reinstall
[07:06] <Thunderma1> Little network problems
[07:07] <xubu> Thunderman1: my suggestion would be to reinstall xubuntu 7
[07:08] <Thunderma1> reinstall? Now I have 6-06 :D
[07:08] <Thunderma1> *6.06
[07:08] <xubu> Thunderman1: install
[07:08] <xubu> Thunderman1: install feisty
[07:09] <Thunderma1> is any other options than bootin wih live-cd?
[07:09] <Thunderma1> *booting
[07:09] <Thunderma1> *with
[07:11] <xubu> Thunderman1: im sure you could do a network install but it would require the cd image regardless, so your best bet is to go to http://www.xubuntu.org/get and dowload 7.04 and butn it
[07:11] <xubu> burn*
[07:11] <Thunderman-> yeah
[07:13] <Thunderman-> thank you very mutch
[07:13] <Thunderman-> for helping
[07:13] <Thunderman-> I'll try to install 7.04
[07:13] <xubu> Thunderman: no problem, drop by let me know how it went
[07:13] <Thunderman-> ok
[07:57] <hyper_ch> hiho
[08:29] <OculusAquilae> Hi
[08:30] <OculusAquilae> Is it known that Abiword in Xubuntu doesn't print correctly in landscape layout
[08:31] <OculusAquilae> OpenOffice.org Writer has a broken window decoration on my system.
[08:36] <hyper_ch> OculusAquilae: what do you mean by broken window decoration?
[08:41] <OculusAquilae> hyper_ch: it is not the real decoration, there are strange colours and no buttons can be seen
[08:42] <hyper_ch> OculusAquilae: how about installing a theme?
[08:42] <hyper_ch> Eye of the Eagle ;)
[08:43] <OculusAquilae> where to install a theme, all other window decorations are displayed correctly
[08:43] <OculusAquilae> :)
[08:52] <hyper_ch> OculusAquilae: you should use the name of the person you are speaking to :) that draws their attention ;)
[08:52] <hyper_ch> OculusAquilae: I install this for OOo:   aptitude -y install openoffice.org openoffice.org-gtk
[08:53] <hyper_ch> OculusAquilae: open a terminal and enter:   apt-cache search openoffice.org
[08:53] <hyper_ch> OculusAquilae: it will list various styles
[08:54] <xGo-xu> Good time of the day, i trying to get flash working under Gutsy 64-anyone would like to help/answer a couple newbie questions...?! Thanks in advance!! =)
[08:57] <OculusAquilae> hyper_ch: I will try this, thanks, I'll come here if I didn't get it
[08:59] <OculusAquilae> see you, I have to go, I'll come here again if I know what the problem was thanks
[09:00] <xubu> is there some way i can change which network connection is monitored by the panel applet, it seems to be monitoring the wrong one
[09:56] <axelm7> hello
[09:56] <j1mc> hi axelm7
[09:57] <axelm7> My father in law has an old P1 133 128MB RAM and I am thinking of removing Windoze and installing xubuntu on it. Would that hardware be able to run firefox 2?
[09:57] <axelm7> hello j1mc
[09:57] <j1mc> unfortunately, no.
[09:58] <xubu> Minimum Hardware
[09:58] <xubu>     * Pentium 233 MHz (Recommended: Pentium 500MHz or greater)
[09:58] <xubu>     * 64 MB RAM (Recommended: 128 MB RAM or greater)
[09:58] <xubu>     * 52 MB hard drive space
[09:58] <j1mc> it may be possible to install xubuntu on that machine using the alternate installer (as it meets the bare minimum requirements of ram)
[09:58] <j1mc> but... yes, the processor is too slow.
[09:59] <axelm7> that means it will run... just not fast enough, right?
[10:00] <j1mc> axelm7: well, yeah, i guess so.  how much hard drive space does it have?
[10:01] <axelm7> it has an 8gb hd which I will format
[10:01] <j1mc> ok.  that's plenty of space.
[10:01] <j1mc> axelm7: you would definitely need to use the alternate install cd
[10:01] <axelm7> I have just looked at the POST screen and it says P1 233Mhz :)
[10:02] <j1mc> the regular "livecd" will not work with 128mb of ram
[10:02] <axelm7> Pentium-MMX
[10:02] <hyper_ch> axelm7: I installed it on a notebook similar to those techs and its really slow... you'd rather go for something like DSL or FeatherLinux
[10:02] <axelm7> DSL is not friendly enough for this particular user
[10:03] <axelm7> I've never used FeatherLinux though
[10:03] <hyper_ch> axelm7: well, even OOo run on that notebook but it is really SLOW
[10:03] <hyper_ch> axelm7: is the problem with DSL the GUI?
[10:04] <j1mc> axelm7: i would probably even use xubuntu dapper drake over feisty fawn... dapper drake would run better on hardware that old.
[10:04] <axelm7> This low end garbage PC was running XP SP2 until 2 weeks ago reasonably well until a windows update patch killed it, now it won't boot any more
[10:04] <j1mc> it's a little lighter
[10:05] <axelm7> so I guess that if it runs xp sp2 it will run a light linux distribution
[10:05] <hyper_ch> axelm7: or wait... I think the notebook had only 64mb ram
[10:05] <hyper_ch> axelm7: give it a shot with xubuntu then
[10:05] <axelm7> hyper_ch: 7.04 or 7.10 beta?
[10:06] <hyper_ch> it was edgy
[10:06] <axelm7> I meant, should I use 7.04 or 7.10 beta?
[10:06] <axelm7> sorry, I am not familiar with ubuntu, I use fedora since version 2
[10:06] <j1mc> 7.04 would be preferred over 7.10 tribe 4
[10:07] <xubu> acelm7: try  installing xubuntu and loading dillo for the browser
[10:07] <axelm7> tribe 4 is not stable enough yet?
[10:07] <xubu> axelm7
[10:07] <hyper_ch> axelm7: well, I'd recommend to try out 7.04
[10:07] <axelm7> xubu, firefox and ie7 were reasonably fast on xp, I suppose it will be ok on linux
[10:07] <hyper_ch> axelm7: and if that is not working then Dapper Drake 6.06
[10:08] <axelm7> ok, I'll try xubuntu 7.04 then and see how that goes. Thanks people
[10:08] <xubu> axelm7: if your worried about dsl not being user friendly id aviod the alpha
[10:09] <axelm7> My father in law is computer illiterate and he does not speak english, I can't even get him to use the VCR
[10:09] <axelm7> I don't think DSL is for him
[10:09] <hyper_ch> axelm7: what does he uses the computer for?
[10:09] <axelm7> he only speaks spanish, and I see that ubuntu-es has a lot of users
[10:09] <xubu> axelm7: likewise neither would 7.10, alphas have too many pitfalls
[10:10] <axelm7> I am trying to get him to learn how to use a browser
[10:10] <hyper_ch> axelm7: at least he knows what a browser is ;)
[10:11] <xubu> axelm7: did you check out http://www.guadalinex.org//
[10:11] <axelm7> he already has a yahoo webmail account, and sends and receives mail! that's a big improvement for 2 weeks using his cimputer until M$ killed it with windoze update
[10:11] <xubu> axelm7: spanish derivative of ubuntu
[10:11] <hyper_ch> axelm7: you'll have to show him the spanish ubuntu support channel :=
[10:12] <axelm7> I do not want to reinstall XP on it because it will die again when windoze update runs, and windows with updates is not safe enough, it will get full of crapware quickly
[10:12] <axelm7> sorry, I meant WITHOUT updates
[10:13] <hyper_ch> windows is not even safe enough with all current updates ;)
[10:13] <hyper_ch> otherwise you wouldn't need to hog it down with AV and firewall
[10:14] <axelm7> This machine did not have AV, and I installed firefox with NoScript, That was reasonably safe for what he needs
[10:17] <axelm7> My main problem moving him over to linux is the MSN client. pidgin has major issues with the MSN network and everybody in the family uses MSN
[10:18] <axelm7> I guess we'll have to switch over to skype which runs GREAT on my fedora laptop
[10:18] <SrRaven> axelm7,try amsn
[10:18] <hyper_ch> axelm7: how about aMSN?
[10:18] <SrRaven> it does not have all similar features,but its useable (crap compared to msn live)
[10:18] <axelm7> have you ever used amsn, it's a torture
[10:20] <axelm7> IMO amsn is horrible to use, but it is more compatible then pidgin with MSN network
[10:22] <axelm7> does xbuntu support spanish locales?
[10:23] <axelm7> xubuntu
[10:24] <rici> sure
[10:24] <KPenn06> Just a general question: I'm trying to use skype but I cannot get my microphone to work
[10:24] <rici> axelm7: the docs are better in english though
[10:24] <KPenn06> ive tried everything in the sound controls, but it doesnt work with audacity, skype, nothing
[10:25] <axelm7> rici, I hope ubuntu-es forum will be helpful for him
[10:25] <rici> axelm7: ojal
[10:25] <Pumpernickel> KPenn06: What chipset?
[10:25] <KPenn06> aplay -l gives me...
[10:26] <KPenn06> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[10:26] <KPenn06> card 0: I82801DBICH4 [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801DB-ICH4] 
[10:28] <Pumpernickel> How many output channels are you using?  (Stereo, 5.1, etc.)
[10:29] <KPenn06> uh not quite sure how to find that
[10:29] <Photocopy> I am running xubuntu feisty. I have a router that we have been using as a wired router for a long time. It was originally configured under windows XP Pro but that computer is gone. destroyed. no more. Now I want to configure the router to work for wireless now?
[10:29] <Photocopy> and im a noob.
[10:29] <Photocopy> can anyone hold my hand and guide me through it?
[10:30] <Pumpernickel> KPenn06: It'll show up in alsamixer as one of the last options.
[10:30] <Photocopy> im going to need some help but i see that this room is dead as, say, i dunno, any rabbit that lived 400 years ago
[10:31] <hyper_ch> Photocopy: well, download the manual for the router from your router's hardware manufacturer....
[10:31] <rici> Photocopy: it's not really an xubuntu question afaics
[10:31] <Photocopy> oh god
[10:31] <rici> it depends on your router
[10:31] <hyper_ch> Photocopy: I bet it is a web-based interface
[10:31] <Photocopy> i bet so too
[10:32] <Photocopy> but i need further instruction that that
[10:32] <Photocopy> ive never used this routers thingy before... its config menu, my mom did it
[10:32] <Photocopy> but she wont do it again cause she says theres no point
[10:32] <Photocopy> but there IS and she is stupid
[10:32] <KPenn06> Pumpernickel: just regular stereo
[10:34] <Photocopy> hi
[10:36] <Pumpernickel> This isn't a router support channel.
[10:38] <Pumpernickel> KPenn06: Are you using the 'boost mic' option?
[10:39] <Pumpernickel> It could just be very low input volume.
[10:44] <KPenn06> Pumpernickel: Ive tried with and without it on
[10:45] <KPenn06> Pumpernickel: in the volume control, everytime i move the capture slider up it goes back down to 0
[11:13] <Pumpernickel> Sounds like a bug; there don't seem to be any reported cases of it, so you may want to file a report yourself.
[11:13] <Pumpernickel> !bugs
[11:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:16] <KPenn06> k will do
[12:08] <axelm7> hello, I am installing xubuntu 7.0.4 on a p1mmx-233 as we speak, I got the splash screen with the xubuntu logo and then I pressed alt-F1 to go to text mode. How do I go back to grphic mode?
[12:11] <vidd> axelm7, live or alt?
[12:12] <axelm7> live
[12:12] <vidd> type live
[12:13] <axelm7> I'll try that, I had to reboot because I got a lot of squashfs errors, I guess the CD was not burned correctly
[12:13] <axelm7> I am checking media integrity right now
[12:17] <rici> axelm7: you have only 64MB ram, right?
[12:17] <rici> you should try the alt
[12:18] <axelm7> 128
[12:19] <axelm7> the media check failed :( I have to find the sha1sums to see if my download accelerator corrupted the iso file or if nero did not burn it correctly
[12:19] <axelm7> most probably download problem
[12:22] <axelm7> md5sum for the downloaded iso is ok, thank god. Guess I'll have to burn another CD