[12:16] <Cannoli> but i keep getting this error
[12:16] <Cannoli> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:16] <Cannoli> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> Cannoli: you open it with kdesu?
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> Cannoli: kdesu kate?
[12:16] <Cannoli> no
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> do so
[12:16] <Cannoli> i opened it with kate
[12:17] <intelikey> kaminix not "really" hard,   but you do need to first install  "build-essential"   and   "xserver-xorg-dev"        then it should be simple.
[12:17] <kaminix> intelikey: Note: "If you have a 945 or older graphics controller, your distribution will already have the right drivers included. " meaning I should not compile my own drive I guess.
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:17] <intelikey> kaminix yeah that's what they are saying.
[12:18] <intelikey> kaminix i'm not finding any bugs listed with that driver specificly    maybe you should file a bug on it.
[12:18] <kaminix> intelikey: Then what's my problem? :( If it's not the driver?
[12:18] <intelikey> !bug
[12:18] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:18] <Cannoli> yay thanx
[12:18] <Cannoli> :)
[12:19] <kaminix> intelikey: But I don't even know what's wrong with it?
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> Cannoli: anything outside of your /home/user directory needs to be run with kdesu when you are editing it
[12:19] <intelikey> all you can do is give them the info and tell them what it does.   maybe someone can reproduce the problem and  thus fix it.
[12:19] <Cannoli> ah ic
[12:20] <intelikey> if a bug is not reproducable, it wont get fixed anyway...
[12:20] <stoned> ok, so I can't find out, but does anyone know if frostwire/limewire work with amd64?
[12:20] <stoned> architecture isn't listed under frostwire download
[12:20] <stoned> I dunno
[12:20] <Cannoli> what does this mean?
[12:20] <Cannoli> Once you comment those things out then a restart of X is needed.
[12:21] <Cannoli> what is X
[12:21] <Cannoli> ?
[12:21] <Cannoli> !X
[12:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:21] <intelikey> kaminix in the mean time.   try to not have too many movies playing at one time...      sorry i can't do more for you on that.
[12:21] <Cannoli> ah ic
[12:21] <kaminix> intelikey: Okay, new news. It's just when I play a vobs... just noticed.
[12:22] <intelikey> ok then you have narrowed the field of search,   and it may point to the fritz chip before you finish...
[12:22] <kaminix> intelikey: fritz chip?
[12:23] <intelikey> the evil  DRM
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> ewww
[12:24] <kaminix> intelikey: Not likely, it was vobs on my HDD. I've played them a zillion times before.
[12:24] <lucky_lucas> hi anyybody knows an amarok like player but for movies, I'mean by collection manager with sort and search options
[12:25] <lucky_lucas> Hi become addict of the way amarok manages collections, every films in the same folder and the player manages the search options
[12:26] <nosrednaekim> I don't know of any
[12:26] <intelikey> kaminix that doesn't mean that they aren't somehow accessing the fritz chip.    you play them with propritary codecs   no?
[12:27] <kaminix> intelikey: No idea. libmpeg2 it says
[12:28] <lucky_lucas> arf, since I ve seen linuxmce, i strongly need something like that
[12:30] <intelikey> kaminix is this player specific  ?   mplayer by chance ?
[12:31] <intelikey> i am seeing some bug reports on it, that might be related.
[12:31] <aguitel> hello , i need to reconfigure my video (the resolution is lower)
[12:31] <kaminix> intelikey: No, mplayer crashes on play, VLC same I think and Kaffeine goes blue.
[12:31] <intelikey> kaminix hmm ok.
[12:31] <tobias> aguitel: and what is your problem now? :o
[12:31] <kaminix> intelikey: Audio works in Kaffeine hough
[12:31] <Cannoli> hey
[12:31] <intelikey> !codecs
[12:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <Cannoli> i installed ntfs-config
[12:32] <Cannoli> but
[12:32] <Cannoli> in the system menu
[12:32] <Cannoli> it doesnt have an ico
[12:32] <Cannoli> icon*
[12:32] <kaminix> intelikey: What about codecs?
[12:32] <Cannoli> and when i try and run it
[12:32] <Cannoli> nothing happens
[12:32] <aguitel> the video resolution is 800x600 is bad
[12:32] <intelikey> just looking for an update
[12:32] <tobias> aguitel: and now you want to know how to change it ?
[12:33] <aguitel> tobias ,yes
[12:33] <aguitel> tobias,1500x1200
[12:33] <tobias> thats what you want? 1500*1200 ?
[12:34] <aguitel> tobias ,aproximade
[12:34] <Cannoli> anyone know how to fix it?
[12:34] <aguitel> tobias, before restart is was high resolution
[12:36] <tobias> !resolution
[12:36] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:36] <intelikey> !xorg
[12:36] <intelikey> same node.
[12:36] <tobias> ! aguitel | resolution
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aguitel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <tobias> mhm the other way round I guess ;)
[12:36] <intelikey> tobias backwards.
[12:36] <aguitel> thanks
[12:36] <tobias> no problem
[12:38] <Cannoli> how would u rename a mounted drive?
[12:38] <Cannoli> :S
[12:38] <intelikey> kaminix ah.    did you say if that was 32 or 64 bit ?
[12:38] <intelikey> i was working on 32
[12:38] <drewcipher_> unmount it then create new mount with the name you want
[12:38] <Cannoli> when i unmount it
[12:39] <Cannoli> it doesnt go away
[12:39] <Cannoli> it stays in my /media/ folder
[12:39] <drewcipher_> once you unmount though is it empty?
[12:39] <Cannoli> yep
[12:39] <intelikey> kaminix never mind.   generic is 32.
[12:39] <Cannoli> well not empty, inaccessable
[12:39] <kaminix> intelikey: Nah, 32 bit
[12:39] <kaminix> :)
[12:40] <drewcipher_> what do you get when you type "mount" ?
[12:40] <Cannoli> just mount?
[12:40] <drewcipher_> yeah, should list current mounts
[12:40] <Cannoli> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:41] <Cannoli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34123/
[12:42] <drewcipher_> Cannoli: saw pastebin.  thanks.   is that mount listed in your /etc/fstab file?
[12:42] <Cannoli> i dont know
[12:43] <drewcipher_> just do this:   cat /etc/fstab | grep -i media
[12:43] <Cannoli> its listed there
[12:43] <Cannoli> kk
[12:43] <Cannoli> /dev/sdb1 /media/Windows ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 0
[12:43] <Cannoli> /dev/sda1 /media/Other ntfs umask=222,utf8 0 0
[12:43] <Cannoli> the 2 drives i wanna unmount
[12:44] <drewcipher_> when your machine boots, I believe it will read the /etc/fstab file and remount those directories, so I don't think you want to nuke the directory until you have the your fstab the way you want it
[12:44] <Cannoli> nuke?
[12:44] <Cannoli> !nuke
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nuke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <drewcipher_> nuke = delete
[12:45] <Cannoli> so u want me just delete those 2 enteries?
[12:45] <waylandbill> nuke = rm :-D
[12:45] <Cannoli> lmao
[12:45] <Cannoli> rm as in comment out eight
[12:45] <Cannoli> right*
[12:45] <Cannoli> ?
[12:46] <drewcipher_> well, I am not uber enough to say remove from your fstab file but that is where I think it is getting mounted.
[12:46] <waylandbill> you can use # to comment out the lines yes
[12:47] <Cannoli> kk
[12:47] <elite101> hey*
[12:47] <Cannoli> yep i commented them out
[12:47] <elite101> wuu i got my internet working
[12:47] <Cannoli> now should i restart or soemthing?
[12:47] <waylandbill> elite101: I'm sure paint got you online. ;-)
[12:47] <elite101> lol
[12:47] <elite101> ;)
[12:48] <waylandbill> elite101: that was a nice video, but just take a photo of a psp
[12:49] <elite101> lol
[12:50] <elite101> it looks real its just i was use to paint and how quik and stuff it was it was very simple
[12:50] <drewcipher_> I don't know how to reload fstab w/out a reboot .
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> I think mount -a does it.
[12:53] <Cannoli> just type tht into konsole?
[12:55] <drewcipher_> Cannoli: one thing I do before modifying my /etc/fstab file is to back it up.  I know you've commented out but I've nuked it before and it is a little easier to restore a backup sometimes then edit if forced into single user mode to recover.
[12:56] <Cannoli> ic
[12:56] <drewcipher_> Cannoli:  this is bacause I am lame. sometimes I have trouble getting the editor up in single user mode.
[12:56] <flake> xmms would be ok but my playlist doesn't play in order for some reason
[12:57] <Cannoli> lol
[12:57] <peter__> hehe
[12:57] <Sanne> flake: turn off shuffle. I had the same problem, driving me nuts. :)
[12:58] <Sanne> flake: it's in options, hotkey is S
[12:58] <flake> ahh cool, thanks
[12:58] <Sanne> :)
[01:03] <seckshooal> Can anyone help me get my Creative Zen V to work on KUbuntu?
[01:03] <seckshooal> Please?
[01:03] <NickPresta> !hardware
[01:03] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:04] <dodaniel> Can someone point in the right direction to actually learn what the heck I am doing with Linux?
[01:04] <dodaniel> tutorials, etc
[01:05] <NickPresta> seckshooal, what do you mean "work"? Amarok should recognize it. You can also use `gnomad2` (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport)
[01:05] <NickPresta> seckshooal, and gah, that link should be http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[01:05] <Cannoli> drewcipher_: k so nopw when i run ntfsconfig i can see those drives
[01:06] <NickPresta> dodaniel, what do you mean? Most things are fairly intuitive. What specific do you need help with?
[01:06] <Cannoli> but they're still visible in the /media folder
[01:06] <seckshooal> Well, when I go to sync it with amarok it doesn't read it.
[01:06] <seckshooal> It reads it as a camera and not an mp3 player.
[01:06] <Sanne> dodaniel: I would start with the Kubuntu desktop guide, you should find it in the menu under help.
[01:07] <dodaniel> Excellent, Thank you Sanne
[01:07] <seckshooal> I can't figure out how to mount it or what it is mounted as because whenever I try to mount it it says it's a bad camera and won't let me mount it.
[01:07] <Sanne> dodaniel: you're welcome :)
[01:09] <NickPresta> seckshooal, The Zen V is an MTP device so Amarok and Gnomad2 should both recognize it. I would try gnomad2 first
[01:09] <seckshooal> Ok
[01:10] <raymond> how do i reconfigure my ethernet (like it does at install
[01:11] <NickPresta> seckshooal, in Amarok, in the Configure Amarok screen, click on Media Devices. Then click on "Add Device". Set the plugin to MTP device and then the mount point. It should work fine.
[01:12] <robotgeek> raymond: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:12] <raymond> thanks
[01:14] <raymond> hmm i need to reconfigure my network device
[01:15] <Sanne> raymond: do you get an automatic ip with dhcp?
[01:16] <raymond> no says that there is no eth0
[01:17] <raymond> network in one laptop wasnt working so i pulled the hard drive and plugged it into another computer that the network is working (same model laptop)
[01:17] <Sanne> raymond: dunno if it helps, but when I need my system to get an ip manually, I do: "sudo ifdown eth0" and after that "sudo ifup eth0".
[01:18] <raymond> but it doesnt see eth0 at all
[01:18] <raymond> all i have is the loopback
[01:18] <raymond> i need to know how to tell it to go find the network card
[01:19] <intelikey> raymond that's kernel side.   lspci   or  lshw   and find what the card is and the  'driver' name then  lsmod | grep 'driver' if not inserted    modprobe 'driver'
[01:19] <raymond> ok ill try that
[01:19] <raymond> thanks
[01:20] <intelikey> note the modprobe command will require root    and for the 'card name to driver info' you may need to google
[01:21] <intelikey> also of note; when you get that fixed   you may want to add the driver name to  /etc/modules   or /etc/modprobe.d/<something>    to make it automatic on the next boot up
[01:22] <gerd_> b
[01:23] <intelikey> one last thing on that.  there could be a blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d/ that is affecting your cards driver not being automaticly loaded.   should probably   grep there...
[01:23] <intelikey> althought it's not very likely  ^  still possable
[01:27] <intelikey> redhat chkconfig == update-rc.d ubuntu  ???
[01:28] <kkerwin> How do I remove an interface from being automatically configured by NetworkManager? It has a static device name: rndis0
[01:29] <alexbe01__> i just got here and thought that said robot chicken config...
[01:30] <kkerwin> alexbe01__: Nice ...
[01:36] <intelikey> kkerwin  /etc/network/interfaces
[01:36] <intelikey> maybe ?
[01:37] <kkerwin> intelikey: This device doesn't have an entry there, yet NetworkManager still autoconfigures it.
[01:37] <intelikey> yeah that devie looks like ath0
[01:38] <intelikey> try commenting out all except the ones you know you want active.
[01:38] <intelikey> or ask someone else.   i'm still network illiterate   only been online for a few days
[01:40] <kkerwin> intelikey: Hmm. I think I may have figured it out: according to some docs that I found, if I don't want NetworkManager to handle an interface, then it needs to have a line in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm still working on figuring out why i can't roll back to the i810 driver
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> all i really want is to get svideo out working
[01:42] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop    dpkg -l | grep 810      ?
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can install the package
[01:43] <kkerwin> intelikey: LOL. Exact opposite of what you would've expected, eh? :-D
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> which uninstalls the one i'm using
[01:43] <intelikey> kkerwin no, actually what i expected   plus one.
[01:43] <Daisuke_Laptop> then when i restart x, i get 'no screens found'
[01:44] <kkerwin> intelikey: Ok. Seems I misunderstood your last, then. Thanks, though.
[01:44] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop if you install the i810 and then set the Driver in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to i810    it does that ?
[01:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> yep
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> i suppose i could always try it again...
[01:45] <intelikey> kkerwin well i was impercise actually should have said comment out the "auto"     and  "possably add a static"   but   yeah. np.
[01:46] <intelikey> too late.
[01:47] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop hrmm   :S    if that doesn't work i'd run a reconfig on it      it will make a dated backup...
[01:47] <intelikey> and of course add those pesky wacom lines
[01:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> reconfig-ing now
[01:48] <intelikey> but yeah i'm like you.  installing the driver and pointing xorg at it should work..
[01:48] <Sanne> we need a --no-wacom switch ;)
[01:49] <intelikey> :)
[01:49] <intelikey> i've got one...   it's called a console
[01:49] <Sanne> ha!
[01:49] <Sanne> :)
[01:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> unless it's a driver provided by dell specifically, because it is an intel 965 chipset
[01:49] <replman> Hi!
[01:50] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop ummm yeah this is the day for that...   second one today   should i lookup the link ?
[01:50] <replman> When i try to watch a hd-channel with kaffeine i get no picture, only sound
[01:50] <replman> is there a codec missing?
[01:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes please
[01:51] <intelikey> check  http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=N&Inst=Yes&Product
[01:51] <runlevelten> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[01:52] <h> hi all
[01:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> Download Not Available
[01:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> This download is no longer available.
[01:52] <intelikey> !codecs | replman
[01:52] <ubotu> replman: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <Cannoli> ok so i ran add and remove programs
[01:52] <Cannoli> but i didnt type in a pass
[01:52] <Cannoli> why does it still work without a pass
[01:52] <Cannoli> ?
[01:53] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop hmmmm...
[01:53] <replman> intelikey: do you know which codec? mpeg4?
[01:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> k, did a reconfig, i'm going to irssi in case something goes wahoonie shaped
[01:53] <intelikey> Cannoli cause you priviously typed it in and sudo is setup by default to remember that....   (i personally think that could be exploited)
[01:54] <intelikey> replman no i don't.
[01:54] <Cannoli> ic
[01:54] <Cannoli> and is there a codec avail for divxx web player?
[01:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> alrighty then
[01:55] <intelikey> provably   check the links ubotu spit out ^
[01:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> bah humbug
[01:55] <intelikey> !codecs | Cannoli reposting
[01:55] <ubotu> Cannoli reposting: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:56] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop still no ex ?
[01:56] <charlie_> can somebody help me? i want to execute something in the background so the little bouncy cursor icon doesn't keep going
[01:56] <intelikey> you may have to divorce that thing,   pun intended
[01:57] <intelikey> charlie_ command &
[01:57] <charlie_> intelikey: doesn't work
[01:57] <charlie_> i setup the command as /opt/ff3/firefox & and it still does it
[01:57] <intelikey> charlie_ command --nohup &
[01:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> no devices detected
[01:57] <runlevelten> charlie_: run it in a shell.
[01:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't get that at all
[01:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have it set to 0:2:0 (where it should be) and it complains about nothing being at 0:2:1
[01:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i set it to 0:2:1 for the heck of it, and it complains about 0:2:0 now :\
[01:58] <intelikey> should be at  0:1:0   ?
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> possibly
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can't imagine the setup not figuring that out...
[01:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> but hey, maybe
[01:59] <speaker219> nevermind intelikey and runlevelten, i just had to disable "launch feedback" in the kmenu settings
[01:59] <devin_> What package do I need to install to allow give Amarok MP3 support?
[01:59] <Cannoli> intelikey: thanx :)
[02:00] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop normal pci would be     "PCI:1:1:0"
[02:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> right
[02:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> i know it's at 0:2:0
[02:00] <speaker219> PCI:23:3:8343753
[02:00] <intelikey> my agp is at   "PCI:1:0:0"
[02:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> i got funny with it and tried 0:1:0 and now it complains about there being no matching device section for 0:2:0 or 0:2:1
[02:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> i assume 0:2:1 is either the svideo out or the vga out
[02:01] <BluesKaj> Wiggles2, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:01] <intelikey> lol
[02:01] <Wiggles2> thanks
[02:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm...  maybe if i clone the device section...
[02:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> >:)
[02:01] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop lets assume svid on :2:1
[02:02] <h> how does one install software on kubuntu?
[02:02] <intelikey> it's not impossabel but highly unlikely that the first port would be svidio
[02:02] <eduard_> to h: use adept manager
[02:03] <intelikey> h  with the package manager
[02:03] <intelikey> !adept
[02:03] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:03] <intelikey> !dpkg
[02:03] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[02:03] <eduard_> or, you can use apt-get
[02:03] <[ifr0g] > !bum
[02:03] <h> ok thankyou..i just installed kubuntu five mins ago..thanks alot
[02:03] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:03] <eduard_> you're welcome :)
[02:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i got the same error even with a device section for 0:2:1
[02:04] <Sanne> h: also check out the Kubuntu Desktop Guide you have under Help in the menu
[02:04] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop lets see the config
[02:05] <runlevelten> speaker219: Ah, you meant menu entries.
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> but all that aside, those were just warnings
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> (EE) No devices detected
[02:05] <intelikey> oh what's the error that it fails on ?
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's what miffs me.
[02:05] <intelikey> what's just before that ?
[02:05] <intelikey> what is it looking for ?
[02:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
[02:07] <intelikey> and then the error ?
[02:07] <intelikey> hmmmm     yuck !
[02:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> exactly.
[02:07] <h> thankyou sanne
[02:07] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop ok lets see the config
[02:07] <Sanne> h: you're welcome, and also welcome to Kubuntu! :)
[02:08] <intelikey> !topic
[02:08] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> might be tough...
[02:09] <replman> !codec
[02:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:09] <darkstar61> trekdanne: following your suggestion i read the lmht, and make modules, but i get errors bout sg.o where i have edited the original sg.c http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34134/
[02:10] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop need a script for pastebin'ing things ?
[02:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> intelikey: that would be nice
[02:11] <intelikey> can you recieve a dcc ?
[02:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> hrmm
[02:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i don't know
[02:12] <intelikey> try /dcc get intelikey
[02:12] <intelikey> errr may need the file name added.   i dont remember i have mine set to auto
[02:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> might have to try again, no file offered by intelikey
[02:13] <intelikey> there ya go
[02:14] <intelikey> you can pipe into that or call it on a file name    ./pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:14] <intelikey> or    cat blah | ./pastebin
[02:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> and if it's successful?
[02:15] <intelikey> you'll get the url
[02:15] <intelikey> if not then errr probably nothing.
[02:16] <intelikey> i don't recall if i wrote any error reporting into that or not.
[02:16] <intelikey> i can look
[02:16] <doug_> well i'm guessing i'm going to have to reinstall linux again because ntfs-config won't show up
[02:16] <doug_> i'm denied access to my external drive
[02:16] <intelikey> no no error reporting.   it assumes success    it also assumes   curl  is installed
[02:16] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop ^
[02:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah ha
[02:17] <doug_> but ntfs-config worked perfectly earlier when i first reformatted on my other partition this morning
[02:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38992
[02:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> didn't have curl installed
[02:18] <intelikey> i see it worked :)
[02:18] <darkstar61> trekdanne: now i get, missed the COMMAND_SIZE(opcode); in the patched one... going to recompile...
[02:19] <doug_> any help from the 337 people in here?
[02:19] <Cannoli> is firefox avail speratly for kubuntu?
[02:19] <CatRangers> uhm
[02:19] <CatRangers> Wenas
[02:20] <doug_> .quit
[02:21] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop there is nothing wrong with that config.     well your rez is a little odd to my crt way of thinking  but it should work,     i'm at a loss
[02:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> widescreenish
[02:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> 1440x900's the native res
[02:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, i have absolutely no clue why it would be erroring out like that
[02:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> guess i can go back to the intel driver, though that's not something i particularly want to do...
[02:22] <intelikey> yeah.   i knew it was short screen    just not used to seeing that...
[02:22] <eegore> I keep getting a notice with K3B that is says it cannot find MAD mp3 decoder
[02:23] <eegore> running Kubuntu Feisty
[02:23] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop you can ask in #ubuntu   might get lucky and find a guru...    x is absolutely not kde or gnome related.
[02:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> i do have one more thing i can try
[02:24] <intelikey> eegore konsole command: apt-cache search mad0      and install it
[02:24] <Sanne> eegore: there's a package libmad0 (MPEG audio decoder library), maybe you need to install that?
[02:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> an xorg.conf.bak generated the day before this thing shipped.
[02:24] <dan_> I'm trying to install Twiki. Is there a reason why I can't get to http://localhost?
[02:25] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop yeah there ya go.
[02:25] <Wiggles> How can I gain write permission in a directory?
[02:25] <darkstar61> trekdanne: now the sg.o compiled fine... so is just a matter of rmmod sg insmod /path-to-pathced-sg.o to load and test it, right...?
[02:25] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop and you know you can copy conf files to your home and run startx   it will use the local one rather than the etc one ...
[02:25] <intelikey> handy for testing
[02:26] <intelikey> Wiggles chmod
[02:26] <intelikey> Wiggles what dir are we talking about ?
[02:26] <dan_> wiggles: I actually know how to do that! Use "chown" (for "change owner") To start type chown --help
[02:26] <intelikey> dan_ chmod for perms might be better
[02:26] <Wiggles> intelikey, /etc/X11
[02:27] <Wiggles> intelikey, i want to edit my xorg.conf
[02:27] <intelikey> yah you don't want to own or modify that.   you want to edit there as root
[02:27] <intelikey> Wiggles sudo nano    or kdesu kate
[02:28] <intelikey> with the /path/filename   appended of course
[02:28] <Wiggles> intelikey, so, I can just right-click on it and click "Edit as Root"?
[02:28] <Wiggles> can't*
[02:29] <intelikey> there is a reason that normal users don't have write permission in /etc   the same reason linux don't get virii
[02:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> and switching back to the intel driver worked with no problems whatsoever :\
[02:29] <intelikey> Wiggles if it works i guess you can
[02:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> bleh
[02:29] <eegore> Sanne: it says it is installed
[02:29] <eegore> even the dev
[02:30] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop well then i'd have to conclude that the i810 driver is not compatable with that card
[02:30] <Sanne> eegore: then I don't know what K3b complains about, sorry. I never tried to work with MP3 files in K3b.
[02:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> which means the driver it was likely using originally was vesa :\
[02:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> intel it is
[02:31] <eegore> Sanne:  I use it because it works fast with all the burning I do
[02:31] <intelikey> yeah   likely
[02:31] <intelikey> and vesa is bottom of the barrel  imo
[02:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> whoa whoa whoa
[02:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> you guys trying to burn mp3 files to an audio cd in k3b?
[02:32] <strabes> in konqueror, when you arrange files by file type, you can't search by name by typing the first few letters of a folder/file. Why is this?
[02:32] <Sanne> eegore: oh, I love K3b, I just never needed to use it's MP3 funcions yet, so I can't help you further, unfortunately.
[02:33] <intelikey> what's MP3 ?
[02:33] <intelikey> :)
[02:33] <eegore> converting mp3 to audio for CD's
[02:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> libk3b2-mp3
[02:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's what you're going to need
[02:34] <intelikey> you mean   "install dat thang" ?
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> no
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i mean, that is the library k3b is going to need.
[02:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> time to look this up in FF
[02:35] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop well if nothing else came out of this,  you have a pastebin script   hehhe
[02:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i learned a little about dcc in irssi
[02:36] <intelikey> that too  :)
[02:36] <intelikey> now if you just install elinks and gpm   you'd be pretty much caught up wif me.
[02:37] <intelikey> oh and mc   got to have  mc
[02:37] <intelikey> just for the editor if nothing else...
[02:38] <intelikey> mc -e blah
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> i have elinks
[02:38] <intelikey> yeah it's nice.
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'd prefer a prettified browser though, that's just me :)
[02:38] <intelikey> dillo for the win
[02:39] <intelikey> well i can't compete with you ff users.   so i'll just stay in console.
[02:39] <fester> Are there any MP3 players, with a PAUSE button, that work?
[02:39] <Wiggles> How can I tell if my nvidia drivers are working?
[02:39] <intelikey> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:40] <eegore> Daisuke_Laptop: much better, tnx
[02:40] <intelikey> glxinfo
[02:40] <intelikey> i'm sure there are other ways...
[02:41] <eegore> I was getting 1440FPS with GLX gears and 1920 nX1440
[02:41] <intelikey> probably a pointy clicky way  but i don't know it.
[02:41] <mrksbrd> does anyone use limewire.....i have a problem!!!!!!!!!!
[02:41] <eegore> are those frame rates normally that high?
[02:41] <intelikey> you can't see over about 75   so the other 1425 are waste of cpu
[02:41] <Wiggles> name of display: :0.0
[02:41] <Wiggles> display: :0  screen: 0
[02:41] <Wiggles> direct rendering: Yes
[02:41] <Wiggles> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[02:41] <Wiggles> server glx version string: 1.4
[02:42] <eegore> or do I have some torqued hardware
[02:42] <Wiggles> Is that a yes of a no?
[02:42] <Wiggles> There was more
[02:42] <Wiggles> that seemed to be the most important
[02:42] <intelikey> that's a yes nvidia driver is working for you   and a no don't flood the channel
[02:42] <worker> error when mount hd usb ext ntfs : hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[02:42] <worker> anyone help me ???
[02:43] <eegore> I get about 120 fps with UT2k4 at full res and eye candy
[02:43] <intelikey> !ntfs
[02:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:44] <intelikey> eegore yeah nvidia and ati have some unrealisticly high frame rates.   i don't think that the best of monitors can actually use that much data....
[02:44] <mrksbrd> limewire hangs sts "starting connection" but thats as far as it goes.....any ideas??????????
[02:45] <intelikey> eegore i've seen reports of 5700 f/s   and higher
[02:45] <worker> no mount automatically when inserted wire usb....
[02:46] <worker> and konqueror sayd :hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[02:46] <intelikey> ok i'm out of here.   later folks.
[02:49] <kevin> anyone have experience installing ati drivers in ubuntu 7.04?
[02:49] <worker> sorry, i use nvidia
[02:50] <worker> no anyone for error mount ???
[02:51] <BluesKaj> kevin , how's your experince with ati so far ?
[02:52] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: dont bother, nvidia is better
[02:52] <h> how does one install flash on kubuntu ?
[02:52] <Biovore> well I think ATI might have better cards.. but there drivers suck horrably..
[02:52] <ardchoille> !flash
[02:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:53] <h> ty very much ubotu
[02:53] <ardchoille> !bot
[02:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:54] <BluesKaj> no coreymon77, I have ATI ..i was merely trying to find out what kevin is trying to do.
[02:54] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: oh
[02:55] <h> the website im looking at ubotu is about ubuntu, is this the same as kubuntu?
[02:55] <coreymon77> hyes
[02:55] <h> tnaks
[02:55] <h> thanks
[02:55] <eegore> I have normalize-audio installed yet K3b will not see it
[02:55] <ardchoille> h: kubuntu is simply ubuntu with kde as the default desktop instead of gnome
[02:55] <coreymon77> h: anything that works for ubuntu will work for kubuntu aswell
[02:56] <h> oh great.
[02:56] <eegore> weird
[02:56] <coreymon77> h: or for xu and edu for that matter
[02:56] <h> how does one get beryl on kubuntu?
[02:56] <coreymon77> !beryl
[02:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:56] <h> thanks once again
[02:56] <ardchoille> coreymon77: Beat me to it :)
[02:57] <h> i shall try flash now
[02:57] <ardchoille> !info flash
[02:57] <ubotu> Package flash does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:57] <kevin> not so good BluesKaj
[02:57] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[02:57] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:57] <BluesKaj> which card kevin ?
[02:57] <ardchoille> h: You might need to enable the multiverse repo
[02:58] <kevin> 8500DV
[02:58] <kevin> trying to set up a LinuxMCE  box
[02:59] <worker> at to all ubuntu mount perfectly hd usb??
[02:59] <kevin> I'm not finding much good when it comes to ATI, which I suspected. Looks like I may be buying Nvidia.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> ahh kevin, video capture card , does it have a tv tuner , or do you need one ?
[03:03] <kevin> yeh, has a tv tuner, dvi and s-video output
[03:03] <worker> kevin: to you automount goes ???
[03:03] <kevin> ?
[03:03] <worker> your automount is good ?
[03:03] <kevin> these instructions seem to be right ones: http://www.teamati.com/archive/index.php/t-4354.html
[03:04] <ubuntu> hi
[03:04] <BluesKaj> I'm using an ATI elcheapo TV Wonder pro with a satellite feed , and composite input to the pc.
[03:04] <kevin> yeh, it does find the ATI card, but it's using the fglrx driver instead of the 8500
[03:05] <kevin> probably fine to leave it the way it is rather than installing the drivers from ati?
[03:06] <kevin> the LMCE install failed on LAME install, restarting it
[03:06] <Cannoli> where would my mozilla plug ins folder be on kubuntu?
[03:07] <BluesKaj> the video card is the one that handles the feed from the the 8500 for the pc - tv feed , but I'm not sure what you are trying to setup
[03:08] <shift> you 
[03:08] <Cannoli> anyone?
[03:08] <worker> Cannoli: your automount work fine ?
[03:08] <Cannoli> yes worker
[03:08] <Cannoli> i got it
[03:08] <Cannoli> thanx :)
[03:08] <Biovore> Cannoli: /usr/share/<something> probably..
[03:08] <Cannoli> ah ic
[03:09] <Cannoli> now how did u know that?
[03:09] <Cannoli> like is tht where all ther stuff i install is saved?
[03:09] <Cannoli> kinda like "program files"?
[03:09] <Biovore> !fsb
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <Biovore> !lsb
[03:09] <ubotu> The Linux Standard Base, or LSB, is a joint project by several Linux distributions under the organizational structure of The Free Standards Group to standardize the internal structure of Linux-based operating systems. The LSB is based on the POSIX specification, the Single UNIX Specification, and several other open standards, but extends them in certain areas.
[03:09] <Biovore> ^ :-)
[03:09] <kevin> basically a MythTV box for my home entertainment center (www.linuxmce.org)
[03:10] <BluesKaj> kevin, are you going to use your pc as a tivo/pvr and controller for your Home theater system , cuz that's what linuxMCE is about
[03:10] <Cannoli> ah ic
[03:10] <Cannoli> thanx :)
[03:11] <worker> !hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[03:12] <mikess1> pussy alsa!
[03:12] <mikess1> back to vista
[03:12] <worker> !mount refused
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mount refused - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <eegore> ugh vista, is that monster ever going to behave>?
[03:13] <mikess1> It got sound
[03:13] <mikess1> Codec: Realtek ID 268
[03:13] <eegore> Vista can't even game properly
[03:13] <mikess1> not supported
[03:14] <BluesKaj> alsa works too just needs some attention
[03:14] <kevin> maybe a pvr, but not controlling everything at the moment. ultimately I'd like to be able to control the entire house this way though
[03:14] <mikess1> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:14] <Biovore> eegore: vista is going though the same pains as linux does.. no vender supports it yet..
[03:14] <uatever> can someone help me with mounting devices? I've already read the thing but still cant manage to access it... just doing something worng
[03:14] <Biovore> mikess1: <-- I think that one woks..
[03:14] <mikess1> oh no
[03:15] <mikess1> bug reported,they are trying to fix for gutsy release
[03:15] <eegore> I still don't like the 30 DRM checks per second
[03:15] <Biovore> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:15] <Biovore> Works here..
[03:15] <mikess1> Biovore: you recompile?
[03:15] <mikess1> alsa
[03:15] <Biovore> mikess1: snd_hda_intel
[03:16] <worker> uatever: what error ?
[03:16] <Biovore> mikess1: Didn't recompile here..
[03:16] <mikess1> Biovore: toshiba?
[03:16] <Biovore> Dell
[03:16] <mikess1> oh
[03:16] <mikess1> ok
[03:17] <BluesKaj> kevin, then this not the chat you need ...dunno for sure but there must be a linuxmce chat somewhere
[03:17] <mikess1> Biovore: toshiba has a crap bios
[03:17] <kevin> good call BluesKaj. any idea why I can't see my windoze partition from Kubuntu?
[03:18] <BluesKaj> XP ?
[03:18] <Biovore> mikess1: might want to try snd-hda-intel as well
[03:18] <kevin> yeh XP
[03:18] <kevin> looking at root in Konqueror but not seeing it
[03:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> okay, i can live with this driver
[03:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> it actually looks halfway decent anyway
[03:19] <mikess1> Biovore: In terminal as #?
[03:19] <Daisuke-Laptop> *next* i'm going to attempt (again) svideo out
[03:19] <BluesKaj> kevin, check k-menu system settings/advanced/disks&filesystems
[03:20] <kevin> shows the hda1 partition but it's not enabled
[03:21] <chris_> Bioware, tons of vendors support Vista.  Never had a problem yet and we're supporting about 1,200 Vista desktops and 20 linux desktops.
[03:21] <Cannoli> hey i need some help with mplayer
[03:21] <Cannoli> i installed it
[03:21] <mikess1> chris_: goes very well on my new lapy
[03:21] <Cannoli> and the firefox plug in
[03:21] <NickPresta> !enter | Cannoli
[03:21] <ubotu> Cannoli: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:21] <Cannoli> but it doesnt seem to show up in forefox :S
[03:21] <Cannoli> oh srry
[03:22] <mikess1> !alsa
[03:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:22] <Cannoli> i installed mplayer and the firefox plug in but in firefox im unable to view divx vids where as i should be able to view them
[03:22] <kevin> looks like I need a mount point
[03:23] <kevin> suggestions?
[03:23] <BluesKaj> kevin , install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config , that will give you read write access to windoze
[03:23] <kevin> ok, what about creating a mount point? is that necessary?
[03:23] <hitmanWilly> kevin: live-cd?
[03:24] <hitmanWilly> kevin: or hd install?
[03:25] <kevin> hd install
[03:25] <BluesKaj> kevin after you run ntfs-config , it will mount on demand
[03:25] <kevin> I keep getting an error when I try install anything
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> kevin: are you using sudo?
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> kevin: ie "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[03:26] <kevin> no, adept
[03:26] <Cannoli> as well as firefox is not showing mplayer as a plugin
[03:27] <BluesKaj> what's the error ?
[03:27] <Cannoli> can someone help me make the plug work please
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> kevin: try this in console: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g ntfs-config"
[03:27] <Cannoli> no error
[03:27] <BluesKaj> sorry Cannoli ,  meant kevin
[03:27] <Cannoli> its ok
[03:28] <kevin> ok, sudo tells me to fix dependencies with the -f switch which it is now doing
[03:29] <mboso_> what is the name of the config tool that pops up when you connect removable media?
[03:29] <mboso_> I want to change the default behavior when my ipod is connected
[03:29] <kevin> has a problem with j2rel.4_1.4 install and won't go past it
[03:30] <Biovore> mboso_: amarok?
[03:31] <mboso_> no, the name of the thing that actually handles mounting the media
[03:31] <BluesKaj> kevin , you gotta accept the licence agreement in the dialog ," details"
[03:31] <kevin> I'm not seeing an option to do that
[03:31] <mboso_> kubuntu isn't mounting my ipod when I connect it. I want to set that up.
[03:32] <Biovore> rgr
[03:33] <Biovore> no clue here..  I don't use I-PODs
[03:35] <xIke> hey all, is there an easy want to take screenshots in kubuntu?  in ubuntu it's a menu option under accessories
[03:36] <Cannoli> can someone please help me wiht my mplayer plug in problem
[03:37] <Grungebunny> Hello im seeking help with superkaramba... ive downloaded a few of the themes but I cant figure out how to get them onto my desktop.. ?
[03:41] <shadowraven> anyone know why i installed VMware package and cant seem to find it in my K menu?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> shadowraven, try alt+space, type vmware
[03:44] <kevin> I had that problem as well shadowraven. Try searching for it.
[03:44] <BluesKaj> yeah konq should find it
[03:47] <kevin> this j2rel mozilla plugin is blocking my sudo apt-gets. I ran it in adept and agreed to the license but it says it's broken.
[03:48] <kevin> how can I remove the j2rel.4 from the packages to be installed?
[03:48] <stdin> kevin: try "sudo apt-get -f install" from konsole
[03:49] <Rade> I'm having trouble getting w64codecs installed, it says I have missing dependencies (which follow)
[03:49] <Rade>   w64codecs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-0ubuntu1) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is installed.
[03:49] <Rade>              Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.2) but 1:4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is installed.
[03:49] <Rade>              Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.2) but 4.1.1-13ubuntu5 is installed.
[03:49] <Rade> When I upgrade those, they are already at the highest version...
[03:50] <Rade> I don't know if I need to use a different repository or what.
[03:50] <Rade> Is there a way to determine the current version number of a particular package?
[03:51] <stdin> what version of kubuntu are you on?
[03:51] <kevin> that's what I'm running stdin, but the j2rel.4 wants to install at that point
[03:51] <kevin> 7.04
[03:51] <stdin> kevin: you can't remove it unless it's installed, so you'll need to install it then remove it
[03:52] <Rade> I think I'm in feisty, I recently changed all the instances of 'edgy' to 'feisty' in my sources.list and did a dist-upgrade
[03:54] <shadowraven>  BluesKaj: atl+space... i did that and typed vmware and then enter.....  nothing happened
[03:54] <stdin> Rade: either you're on edgy or the upgrade didn't compete
[03:54] <kevin> I would but getting /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:54] <ardchoille> Rade: lsb_release -a
[03:54] <stdin> kevin: post the while output to pastebin please
[03:54] <Rade> Yep, it says edgy
[03:54] <Rade> so what do I do to get on feisty?
[03:55] <Rade> dist-upgrade again?
[03:55] <kevin> shadowraven, katapult only seems to find programs that are properly installed. VMWare won't show up that way.
[03:55] <ardchoille> install from cd? That's the only way I have ever done it.
[03:55] <stdin> shadowraven: try running "kbuildsycoca" from Alt-F3
[03:55] <stdin> shadowraven: Alt-F2 rather
[03:56] <kevin> pastebin?
[03:56] <stdin> !paste
[03:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:57] <elite101> what happens to all the waster pastebin's? do they erase after like 5days?
[03:57] <stdin> Rade: try this, all on one line:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:57] <kevin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34136/
[03:57] <xIke> hey all, is there an easy want to take screenshots in kubuntu?  in ubuntu it's a menu option under accessories
[03:57] <stdin> xIke: press PrntScreen
[03:58] <xIke> stdin: thanks, but let's pretend I'm on a mac and don't have that :P
[03:58] <ardchoille> stdin: Why two sudo apt-get dist-upgrade commands?
[03:58] <xIke> anything then?
[03:58] <elite101> update and upgrade*
[03:58] <elite101> to diff things*
[03:59] <stdin> xIke: heh, KMenu > Multimedia > KSnapShot (that's what printscreen is a shortcut for)
[03:59] <xIke> stdin: thanks a lot :D
[03:59] <stdin> ardchoille: edgy > feisty is a bit rough, it sometimes needs two
[03:59] <ardchoille> stdin: Ah, yeah, ok
[03:59] <czer323> czer323
[04:01] <stdin> kevin: hmm, are you just going to remove j2re1.4 after you install it?
[04:01] <elite101> well i just got Xubuntu i was just going to burn it and install it? anything i should be concerned about?
[04:01] <kevin> no, I just can't install it
[04:01] <stdin> elite101: wouldn't that question be better in #xubuntu ?
[04:01] <elite101> lol
[04:02] <elite101> true
[04:02] <stdin> kevin: how come you are using the Blackdown Java version?
[04:02] <kevin> I'm trying to install the ntfs-config but that won't install because j2rel is before it and stops the apt-get
[04:02] <kevin> didn't know I was..lol
[04:02] <stdin> well, you are :p
[04:02] <kevin> not sure what that means, tbh
[04:03] <stdin> there is the Blackdown Java version and the Sun Java version
[04:03] <stdin> Sun's is the "Official" java
[04:03] <elite101> blackdown?
[04:03] <elite101> is it bad?
[04:03] <stdin> not bad,
[04:04] <elite101> ohh better?
[04:04] <stdin> just not as good :p
[04:04] <Biovore> different
[04:04] <elite101> ahh
[04:04] <elite101> ic
[04:05] <kevin> I have no idea how it got there. The sun license popped up when I ran it in adept
[04:05] <kevin> I'd like to either remove it or let it move on through
[04:06] <stdin> kevin: the reason it's not installing is because the post-install script is failing for some reason, now we can spend ages trying to figure out why and get blackdown java working, or I can get it installed (kinda) enough for you to remove it. which do you want?
[04:07] <kevin> enough to remove
[04:07] <stdin> ok :)
[04:08] <stdin> in konsole do "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/2re1.4.postinst"
[04:08] <stdin> eh
[04:08] <elite101> man i know this is offtopic but i cant wait to get my band started and start going to places like toronto !!
[04:08] <stdin> kevin: thats "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4.postinst"
[04:10] <kevin> ok
[04:10] <kevin> got GNU nano
[04:10] <stdin> kevin: do you see some text in there?
[04:10] <kevin> similar to emacs?
[04:10] <kevin> no
[04:10] <stdin> press Ctrl-X
[04:11] <kevin> ok, back to command line
[04:11] <stdin> then "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4.postinst" < I put the wrong file first time around
[04:12] <stdin> nano's not quite emacs, it's more like pico
[04:12] <kevin> hhmm..same thing
[04:13] <kevin> oh, actually I corrected your error the first time around
[04:13] <stdin> nothing there?
[04:13] <kevin> j2rel
[04:13] <kevin> no
[04:13] <kevin> it failed so perhaps nothing was placed there
[04:13] <stdin> hold on
[04:14] <draik> !resolution
[04:14] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:16] <kevin> what is error exit status 10?
[04:17] <kevin> there is no /usr/bin/dpkg directory, btw
[04:17] <stdin> kevin: I said "/var/lib/dpkg/" not /usr/bin
[04:17] <kevin> not sure if it matters, but I can't sudo root as I don't know the password.
[04:17] <ardchoille> kevin: It's your user password
[04:18] <ardchoille> !sudo | kevin
[04:18] <ubotu> kevin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:18] <kevin> I know, but the error states Sub-Process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[04:18] <kevin> yeh, I would think so, but I'm not sure if I am root
[04:19] <ardchoille> info: /usr/bin/dpkg: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[04:19] <kevin> if I sudo root and put in my password it fails authentication
[04:19] <stdin> kevin: copy and paste this "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4.postinst" press enter, then type in your password and press enter again
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> kevin: there is no true root acct set up on an ubuntu system
[04:19] <kevin> the live cd install seems to lock out root
[04:19] <kevin> oic
[04:19] <ardchoille> kevin: Did you enable the root account?
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> kevin: everything on a default install is supposed to be done via sudo
[04:20] <kevin> got the nano editor again but no text
[04:20] <kevin> didn't ask for my password
[04:20] <kevin> no, didn't enable root. ok, that makes sense
[04:20] <stdin> sudo won't if it's been recently used
[04:21] <ardchoille> kevin: Good.. leave root disabled, it's best for the system, IMHO.
[04:21] <stdin> kevin: what does "ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re*"  show?
[04:21] <kevin> ok, that makes sense. best to get su priv only as needed
[04:22] <kevin> /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin.list
[04:22] <kevin> /var/lib/dpkg/info/j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin.md5sums
[04:23] <stdin> if it's a big paste, use pastebin
[04:23] <kevin> yeh, wasn't that big I figured
[04:23] <stdin> is that it?
[04:23] <kevin> that's all it was..those two lines
[04:25] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[04:25] <ForgeAus> sup?
[04:25] <uatever> now i cant remember the name of the person that was helping me
[04:26] <uatever> im such an idiot
[04:26] <uatever> roflol
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> uatever: what's up :)
[04:27] <NickPresta> any reason why  would libflashplayer would cause nspluginviewer to SIGSEGV? It works fine in browsers other than Konqueror.
[04:28] <nixternal> NickPresta: which release of Kubuntu are you using?
[04:28] <NickPresta> nixternal, the latest.
[04:28] <nixternal> ya, we are awaiting a fix
[04:28] <nixternal> OO.o doesn't work either right now
[04:28] <nixternal> glib abi breakage for us
[04:29] <NickPresta> ah okay. I was trying to Simpsonize myself. >_>
[04:29] <nixternal> hehe
[04:29] <nixternal> we are somewhat awaiting for openSUSE to fix nsplugin* and the OO.o breakage is being worked on now
[04:30] <NickPresta> nixternal, I don't have a problem with OO.o although I use it for very basic document editing..
[04:30] <nixternal> OO.o on Gutsy isn't breaking for you?
[04:32] <holymoly> hey guys
[04:32] <holymoly> is it safe to upgrade to gutsy?  i'm fine with a total hosejob and a requirement to install
[04:32] <NickPresta> nixternal, oh no. I'm using Feisty. I should've said I'm using the latest _stable_ version of Kubuntu
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> oo is broken on gutsy?
[04:33] <holymoly> just curious if there is a chance of trying it out early a bit without too much headaches
[04:33] <nixternal> NickPresta: don't know why it would be sigsev'ing on you then
[04:33] <nixternal> only thing I can recommend is filing a bug report on it if it continues to happen
[04:33] <NickPresta> nixternal, I have a backtrace, if it means anything to you.
[04:33] <nixternal> NickPresta: what is it crashing on?
[04:33] <nixternal> if it is going back and forth within YouTube, that is a Flash issue :)
[04:34] <NickPresta> nixternal, go to simpsonizeme.com and then try to upload a photo. As soon as you click on upload, it crashes
[04:34] <nixternal> using Konqueror or Firefox?
[04:34] <nixternal> I don't have flash, so I can't test it
[04:35] <NickPresta> nixternal, Konq. Firefox, Opera, etc are fine.
[04:37] <ForgeAus> nixternal... hmm interesting never heard of it :)
[04:38] <nixternal> I run Gutsy, have ran it since the toolchain was created for it...but I have to so I can test thoroughly
[04:39] <nixternal> right now, the only downfall to Gutsy is OO.o not working, but I use KOffice, so that doesn't hamper me to much
[04:39] <nixternal> the Flash is the killer for many right now
[04:39] <stdin> nixternal: oo.o-gnome made it work here (not a fix, but it works)
[04:39] <kevin> got it out by uninstalling j2rel1.4 under adept
[04:40] <nosrednaekim> Iheard something about installing the open office.org-gnome fixing open office
[04:40] <nixternal> oo.o-gnome didn't work for me, scottk, JR, and a few others..which stunk
[04:40] <kevin> whoohoo
[04:41] <stdin> kevin: if you want JRE, install "sun-java6-jre" in konsole (adept doesn't like it)
[04:41] <stdin> kevin: for firefox/konqueror install "sun-java6-plugin"
[04:41] <kevin> get it from sun.com?
[04:42] <kevin> or sudo?
[04:42] <kevin> ok, got it
[04:42] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> !dvd > uatever
[04:42] <nixternal> err, jre, not plugin :)
[04:43] <stdin> -plugin installs -jre anyway
[04:43] <nixternal> you can install the sun packages in Adept, just make sure you have the show details thing rocking so you can see the terminal..at least it used to work
[04:43] <nixternal> ya, that is true :)
[04:43] <nixternal> ya, and if you use firefox you need the -plugin, konqi works as a browser should with just jre :)
[04:43] <kevin> thanks!
[04:43] <kevin> very quickly, has anyone on the list tried to install Joost under Wine?
[04:44] <stdin> this is why adept need a big ol' popup ability
[04:44] <nixternal> +1
[04:44] <nixternal> I tend to forget a lot of people use Adept
[04:45] <kevin> lol
[04:45] <nixternal> hehe
[04:45] <nixternal> and one of the lives somewhat local...don't want any unwanted door knocks
[04:45] <underdog5004> lol...sorry devs
[04:45] <nixternal> haha
[04:45] <stdin> nixternal: you know they never watch this channel :p
[04:45] <underdog5004> lol
[04:45] <underdog5004> who does?
[04:46] <nixternal> manchicken_: ^^ look they are talking bad about Adept!!!
[04:46] <underdog5004> besides us loyal?
[04:46] <kevin> anyone know if/when CNR (click n run) is going to be available on *buntu?
[04:46] <nixternal> never?
[04:46] <underdog5004> I don't want ubuntu getting mixed up with linspire...especially after the deal w/ microsoft
[04:47] <underdog5004> evil by proxy
[04:47] <kevin> that could be why it hasn't appeared yet
[04:47] <stdin> CNR was supposed to be available as an add-on repo, but that's the last I heard of it
[04:47] <holymoly> who gives a shite
[04:47] <nixternal> haha
[04:47] <holymoly> those linspire retards need to die
[04:47] <kevin> since the Linspire/M$ thing there hasn't been any press about Linspire and Ubuntu
[04:47] <holymoly> if anyone should put up a store it should be ubuntu
[04:48] <ForgeAus> actually its FCNR for Ubuntu
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> i think shuttleworth's shootdown of any potential ms deal and lindows going over to the dark side may have borked that deal
[04:48] <ForgeAus> (the Free version of Linspires Click n run)
[04:48] <kevin> I get Carmony's POV though. If people can't use it with only a few clicks then LoTD doesn't stand a chance
[04:48] <ForgeAus> but I havn't seen it avaliable yet
[04:49] <kevin> he's trying to get a deal cut with everyone so it runs smoother than chickenshit
[04:49] <holymoly> i love the fact that after lindows signed the ms deal all of their execs just ditched that company
[04:49] <kevin> actually I started paying more attention to this after listening to an interview with Warren of Mepis
[04:49] <holymoly> they dropped their walmart pc push
[04:49] <holymoly> the dropped their os
[04:50] <holymoly> and now their frickin store failed
[04:50] <holymoly> i love it
[04:50] <holymoly> i hope xandros dies as well
[04:50] <kevin> xandros was already dead
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> what's xandros? lol
[04:50] <kevin> I have never met anyone who has actually installed it
[04:50] <holymoly> they had enough money to buy that email server company
[04:50] <ForgeAus> its another distro
[04:50] <stdin> It's gettings -ot in here :p take it to #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:50] <NickPresta> holymoly, you seem to take pleasure in the suffering of others. =(
[04:51] <holymoly> NickPresta: i take pleaser in the suffering of evil
[04:51] <holymoly> on the other hand
[04:51] <holymoly> i want mark shuttleworth to make bucketloads
[04:51] <holymoly> theres one good upstanding moral dude
[04:51] <ForgeAus> stdin I thought freespires FCnR was on topic
[04:51] <holymoly> takes cash he made and plows some of it back
[04:51] <stdin> ForgeAus: see /topic
[04:51] <holymoly> THAT is worthy
[04:51] <holymoly> okay i shutup :()
[04:51] <holymoly> :)
[04:51] <holymoly> so who needs help?
[04:52] <stdin> feel free to slander freespire in -ot :)
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> HELP! MY KUBUNTU WON"T WORK!
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> LINUX SUCK$!
[04:52] <holymoly> nosrednaekim: lol
[04:52] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:52] <holymoly> great!
[04:52] <OzRiC> alguien me puede ayudar?
[04:52] <holymoly> :)
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> !mp3 > uatever
[04:52] <holymoly> !sp
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <holymoly> !espanol
[04:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> Nos did that come with an error message?
[04:53] <ardchoille> lol
[04:53] <ForgeAus> easier than what?
[04:54] <ubuntu> hello how do i reinstall the grub without reinstallin feisty?
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> than BSD
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> !grub | ubuntu
[04:54] <holymoly> ubuntu, boot off of live cd and reinstall grub
[04:54] <NickPresta> ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:54] <ForgeAus> well theres 2 ways
[04:54] <holymoly> oh there you go
[04:54] <holymoly> nice
[04:54] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:54] <ForgeAus> luv that page its a life saver
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> even for buntu boxes
[04:55] <holymoly> i think ubuntu has overtaken gentoo for usefull info
[04:55] <ForgeAus> I'm not very familiar with the whole gentoo thing, seemed a bit too complex for a beginner...
[04:55] <holymoly> sheer quantity of info on wiki and forums is pretty amazing
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> but thye gentoo wiki is better organized
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> plus, it teaches you why/how it works vice a quick fix
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. it is.
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: lol... I'd like to see that done
[04:57] <ForgeAus> I can put in slack packs into my kubuntu
[04:57] <ForgeAus> and I hav pkgsrc for BSDizing it
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> emerge is really nice for some stuff
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> ForgeAus: there's always apt-build
[04:57] <ForgeAus> so rpm (which I don't want anyway) and emerge are about the only 2 left!
[04:57] <mneptok> ForgeAus: why would you do this?
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> plus emerge is python based, so it should be possible
[04:58] <ForgeAus> mneptok becasue not everythings available as a .deb
[04:58] <mneptok> ForgeAus: it's like you bought a Ferrari and are putting coal in the gas tank.
[04:58] <ardchoille> lol
[04:58] <holymoly> i don't see emergy as even remotely interesting
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> i like it, more customization options
[04:58] <mneptok> ForgeAus: that's why there are compilers
[04:58] <holymoly> hitmanWilly: most options are completely useless
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> yes, but not all
[04:58] <ForgeAus> there was a distro um System7 or something linux that had the goal of merging the package managers
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> i run gentoo btw :)
[04:59] <ForgeAus> so that it handles lotsa different package types
[04:59] <holymoly> most people compiling their own stuff really have no clue whether or not the flags they choose actually help or not
[04:59] <holymoly> mostly because they are clueless about each package they are compiling
[04:59] <ardchoille> I have been running ubuntu since Warty was released and have yet to see a situation where I had to compile anything.. I probably forgot how to compile anyway.
[04:59] <holymoly> and the various things you need to know about each infrastructure piece to properly optimize
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> yeah, well, maybe i want kde without arts, for example :)
[05:00] <ForgeAus> hehe
[05:00] <holymoly> they did a test a good year or two ago and found that even something like mandrake was faster than the average compiled gentoo distro
[05:00] <ForgeAus> I'd rather kde without ark
[05:00] <NickPresta> Any idea how to install the Flash plugin via ie6 (IE6 running in Wine)
[05:00] <NickPresta> actually, google is my friend
[05:00] <holymoly> but whatever works :)
[05:00] <ubuntu> hoz does the cd live work?where does it hold the memory?
[05:00] <ForgeAus> mandriva didn't work well from the live CD
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> ForgeAus: you don't even need to recompile for that, its a seperate app
[05:01] <ForgeAus> ubuntu mostly between the CD and RAM
[05:01] <ForgeAus> hitman its a dependancy of parts of KDE tho
[05:01] <ForgeAus> like Konqueror
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> ForgeAus: maybe for kubuntu-desktop...
[05:02] <ForgeAus> only because konqueror has built in ark extensions
[05:02] <ForgeAus> I like the style of krusader for file management better anyhow
[05:02] <drgeb> I am using ThunderBird what application can I use to be able to POP my yahoo Mail ???
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> ForgeAus: ditto
[05:02] <ardchoille> drgeb: You have to pay for pop access from yahoo
[05:02] <stdin> drgeb: that's a yahoo setting
[05:02] <ForgeAus> not that konqi is bad or anything
[05:03] <ForgeAus> its a nice handy browser/manager
[05:03] <shadowraven> is there a program i can DL for Kubuntu to unrar RAR files?
[05:03] <ardchoille> !rar'
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:03] <ardchoille> !rar
[05:03] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:03] <shadowraven> thanks
[05:04] <stdin> shadowraven: after you install unrar, you can use Ark with them
[05:06] <drgeb> ok guess I have to pay
[05:07] <ardchoille> drgeb: They have a low-cost program that provides pop access
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: the liveCD creates a filesystem in your RAM for most of the contents of the CD... thats why you can't save your state
[05:09] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Can a usb key be used to save your ~ ?
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: yeah... actually I think it techincally could if you passed it the right boot option.
[05:10] <ardchoille> interesting
[05:10] <stdin> there was a "persistent" boot option for that, but it got broke in friesy
[05:10] <stdin> feisty rather :p
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> !flash64 > uatever
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> so doesn't ANYONE need help?
[05:15] <illriginal> does anyone know if the MOTOROLA SLVR work with Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[05:16] <illriginal> does anyone know if the MOTOROLA SLVR work with Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[05:16] <nosrednaekim> no.. I meant someone I coul help.... :)
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: I don't know. google it
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> illriginal: it should if it supports bluetooth
[05:17] <illriginal> i am... but looks like there's nothing.
[05:18] <illriginal> yeah my cell does support blue tooth.. i just want to be able to send mp3s to my cell phone
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> neither do I, just know it should work with kubu
[05:23] <holymoly> ah bugger
[05:24] <holymoly> wher eis the fricking sound for 'failed to execute' stored again?
[05:24] <Wiggles> [: 222: Failsafe: unexpected operator
[05:24] <Wiggles> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[05:24] <Wiggles> Blacklisted 'nv' driver is in use
[05:24] <Wiggles> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[05:24] <Wiggles> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[05:24] <holymoly> i cannot stand that crashing glass sound
[05:24] <holymoly> damint!
[05:24] <Wiggles> I get that when running compiz fusion
[05:24] <stdin> !paste
[05:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:24] <Wiggles> Is my nvidia driver not working?
[05:24] <stdin> Wiggles: you are using the "nv" driver in your xorg.conf
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> holymoly: system settings -> notifications
[05:25] <Wiggles> stdin, Whats that mean?
[05:25] <illriginal> yeah my cell does support blue tooth.. i just want to be able to send mp3s to my cell phone
[05:26] <illriginal> does anyone know if the MOTOROLA SLVR work with Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[05:26] <stdin> Wiggles: that you either haven't installed the nvidia driver, or havent't activated it get
[05:26] <Biovore> illriginal: depends is it verision/att?
[05:26] <Biovore> (verizion or att)
[05:26] <Wiggles> hitmanWilly, I used Adept Manager
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: ok, try this in konsole: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:27] <holymoly> thanks!
[05:27] <Wiggles> hitmanWilly, Should I restart to test it out?
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: yes
[05:28] <illriginal> Biovore.. how does that matter?
[05:28] <zhaobaoyu> How to Use Wine in Ubuntu7.04 feisty
[05:28] <stdin> !wine | zhaobaoyu
[05:28] <ubotu> zhaobaoyu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:28] <illriginal> the service provider shouldn't make a difference in hardware/software
[05:28] <Biovore> illriginal: the phone sold by them are locked.. you can't upload mp3's via bluetooth
[05:29] <illriginal> this phone is capable up gettin songs via bluetooth.
[05:29] <illriginal> up - of
[05:29] <zhaobaoyu> stin|  I have installed Wine ,But I can't Use It
[05:29] <illriginal> as well as via usb
[05:29] <Biovore> illriginal: ok.. then it should work.. I havn't mess with bluetooth though..
[05:29] <stdin> zhaobaoyu: the link will also tell you how to use it
[05:29] <zhaobaoyu> thanks stdin
[05:30] <zhaobaoyu> I 'am newbie  in Ubuntu
[05:30] <stdin> zhaobaoyu: we were all newbies once :)
[05:31] <stdin> except me, i was always 1337 :P
[05:31] <uatever> i am right now and im not liking it
[05:31] <illriginal> i can't use a wireless usb adapter though right? it has to be a bluetooth adapter that's compatible with ubuntu?
[05:32] <devin_> http://pastebin.com/m3815fa7f
[05:32] <devin_> now I get more text
[05:32] <devin_> still no compiz
[05:33] <stdin> Wiggles: try using a lower depth
[05:33] <Wiggles> stdin, how?
[05:34] <stdin> Wiggles: Alt-F2, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:34] <stdin> Wiggles: Look for "DefaultDepth" change the value to 24
[05:36] <Wiggles> stdin, I don't see "DefaultDepth"
[05:36] <stdin> Wiggles: it's in the ' Section "Screen" ' aprt
[05:37] <illriginal> ugh..
[05:37] <illriginal> this is why i have to have windows
[05:37] <RentonT> Um....may I ask a  question?
[05:37] <illriginal> ubuntu's too gimped for technology.
[05:37] <stdin> !ask
[05:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:38] <RentonT> Ah, Thank You
[05:38] <RentonT> How do I have modules loaded as an automatic service?
[05:38] <Wiggles> stdin, It's not there
[05:38] <stdin> Wiggles: it should be, post the content to pastebin
[05:39] <stdin> RentonT: add the name of the module to /etc/modules
[05:39] <RentonT> Ah, thx
[05:39] <RentonT> and what about the command?
[05:39] <Wiggles> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m6b54fbb6
[05:40] <stdin> RentonT: open konqueror, navigate to /etc right-click the "modules" file, go to Actions and choose "Edit as root"
[05:40] <RentonT> Um....there is no "modules" file...only modutils
[05:40] <Wiggles> stdin, sorry, I found it
[05:40] <stdin> Wiggles: line 123
[05:40] <RentonT> Erm....nvm
[05:40] <RentonT> found the file
[05:40] <stdin> :)
[05:41] <RentonT> So wait, how do I have it execute a command?
[05:41] <stdin> RentonT: nothing, add the name of the module(s), they will load at boot time
[05:41] <Biovore> add the module name to it..
[05:42] <stdin> RentonT: each module name on a separate line
[05:42] <zhaobaoyu> #winHP
[05:42] <RentonT> Nspluginwrapper <_<
[05:43] <holymoly> is anyone using kxmame? anyone know where to put the damned roms so it sees them?
[05:43] <RentonT> so stdin, I'm actually working on an alternative to using flash on 64 bit linux
[05:44] <RentonT> it's kind of troublesome
[05:44] <stdin> RentonT: yeah, I normally recommend people use the 32bit compatibility libs and just run 32bit version of firefox
[05:45] <RentonT> Yeah, I'm actually just exploring and trying out options
[05:45] <holymoly> stdin: is it that easy to do?
[05:45] <underdog5004> I wonder...on a 64bit machine...if you have another box on the network with flash support...why not just ssh with X forwarding into that box and run firefox from there?
[05:45] <underdog5004> just a thought
[05:45] <Wiggles> stdin, I saw the nvidia logo as I booted up, and compiz seems to be working, but I have no window borders.
[05:45] <RentonT> Because I don't have it setup that way
[05:45] <stdin> Wiggles: did you install "compiz-kde" ?
[05:45] <stdin> holymoly: no, there's a guide
[05:45] <stdin> !flash64
[05:45] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:46] <holymoly> danke
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> oh wait, i know this problem, you need argb visuals enabled
[05:46] <Wiggles> stdin,
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: try this: sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals
[05:46] <Assid> hrmm .. ooxml is which camp ?
[05:46] <Biovore> MS
[05:46] <Wiggles> Adept Manager says it's installed
[05:47] <Assid> odf is openoffice right?
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> Assid: yes
[05:48] <illriginal> does anyone know how it's possible to send files via bluetooth?
[05:48] <illriginal> is there a specific bluetooth adapater i need
[05:48] <underdog5004> !bluetooth | illriginal
[05:48] <ubotu> illriginal: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:49] <jhutchins> illriginal: It would not be possible, for instance, to send a file to a headset and have anything happen but noise.
[05:49] <gan|y|med> hi
[05:49] <Assid> theres a setup needed for bluetooth ?
[05:50] <illriginal> dood i want to send mp3s to my cell phone
[05:50] <illriginal> everyone's sayin it has to be a bluetooth phone
[05:50] <illriginal> so im assuming i need a specific bluetooth adapter for my computer
[05:50] <zhaobaoyu> When I install ies4linux,there always a download trouble
[05:50] <illriginal> at least to work with ubuntu
[05:51] <stdin> any bluetooth adapted should work
[05:51] <jhutchins> illriginal: Right.  Both devices need to be bluetooth devices.
[05:51] <Assid> yyeah
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: any luck?
[05:51] <illriginal> i don't trust that stdin.
[05:51] <jhutchins> illriginal: Bluetooth isn't necessarily part of any default architecture.
[05:51] <zhaobaoyu> that means I can't dowload IE package,what should I do
[05:51] <illriginal> is there a specific bluetooth adapter i can buy that is known to work with ubuntu?
[05:51] <Assid> hrmm, anyone ever managed to get a bluetooth headset paired such that audio streams down the BT device?
[05:51] <Wiggles> hitmanWilly, No.
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[05:51] <stdin> bluetooth is more standardised than wifi
[05:52] <illriginal> so right now
[05:52] <illriginal> i can drive to walmart
[05:52] <jhutchins> zhaobaoyu: realise that this is a silly idea and find some useful way to spend your time.
[05:52] <illriginal> and pick any random bluetooth adapater for my PC
[05:52] <illriginal> and ubuntu will recognize it?
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: did you run that nvidia-xconfig cmd?
[05:52] <Assid> stdin: you ever tried that?
[05:52] <jhutchins> !hardware | illriginal
[05:52] <ubotu> illriginal: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:52] <Wiggles> hitmanWilly, yes
[05:52] <evjunior09> Okay i got a Phillips Webcam, and i need to install it with the CD-ROM it came with. How do i do so?
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> hmmm
[05:53] <stdin> Assid: I have, and it did (a couple years ago)
[05:53] <jhutchins> !webcam | evjunior09
[05:53] <ubotu> evjunior09: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:53] <stdin> !webcam | evjunior09
[05:53] <jhutchins> stdin: Thpppb!
[05:53] <hitmanWilly> Wiggles: you might try in #ubuntu-effects, im fresh out of ideas here
[05:54] <Assid> stdin: howd you synch it?
[05:54] <termNatorX> hi all :)
[05:54] <Assid> stdin: i got  dolpin to open the BT device.. but i cant seem to make it the default audio output
[05:54] <stdin> Assid: sync? you just pair it and set your media app to use that alsa device
[05:55] <zhaobaoyu> [11:52]  <jhutchins> zhaobaoyu: realise that this is a silly idea and find some useful way to spend your time.
[05:55] <Assid> hrmm.. one sec
[05:55] <zhaobaoyu> jhutchins ,why ?
[05:55] <termNatorX> maybe you mind when i ask something? =)
[05:55] <stdin> Assid: it was a while ago, there's a (old) guide on the bluetooth wiki guide
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> termNatorX: go for it
[05:55] <termNatorX> well ok thanks
[05:56] <termNatorX> i have a dell latidude d505 laptop
[05:56] <termNatorX> my internal keyboard is damaged and i have random key inputs
[05:56] <termNatorX> now i whanted to ask, can i disable with linux the internal keyboard and use instead of that a usb keyboard?
[05:56] <evjunior09> Well my Webcam isnt listed on the Phillips thingy on the Wiki.ubuntu.com/hardware
[05:57] <stdin> evjunior09: it may still work, see the other link
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> termNatorX: is the internal one continuously generating random input, or just when you actually hit a key?
[05:57] <termNatorX> its gernal, well the keyboard was under a orange juice attack ^^
[05:58] <evjunior09> stdin: well it works, but like on Camorama it only has a 1/2 screen. (same with Stickam.com)
[05:58] <termNatorX> and i cant disable the keyboard in bios i allready checked that
[05:58] <Jmanfoo> "/home/jmanfoo/gcc-2.3.6> make bootstrap > stdin"
[05:58] <Jmanfoo> now poor old stdin is gonna be flooded with missing libraries
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> termNatorX: you'd have to disable the kernel driver for a ps2 kbd, not sure where that is, tho
[05:59] <Jmanfoo> ln stdin /dev/null
[05:59] <ardchoille> Why does the konqueror web browser show a webpage as html code instead of displaying as a web page?
[05:59] <stdin> Jmanfoo: try it, see what happens :)
[05:59] <Jmanfoo> lol
[05:59] <termNatorX> well is there a guide
[05:59] <termNatorX> somewhere online?
[05:59] <stdin> ardchoille: have you put it in web browser mode?
[06:00] <termNatorX> ive searched a bit but i couldnt find something usefull yet
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> termNatorX: you could just try plugging in a usb one, it should work automatically
[06:00] <termNatorX> well when i plugin the usb keyboard, the internal still press some random buttons :/
[06:00] <ardchoille> stdin: Oh, well that's just silly.. it's a web browser.. it's supposed to be in web browser mode.
[06:00] <evjunior09> Anyone know how to install my Phillips SIC4750/27 Webcam with the CD-ROM
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> termNatorX: oh, ok, i guess that's a problem then :P
[06:01] <stdin> ardchoille: no, it's a file manager too...
[06:01] <termNatorX> isnt there a way to disable a internal
[06:01] <Jmanfoo> termNatorX, try rmmod drunk_typing
[06:01] <Jmanfoo> j/k
[06:01] <stdin> evjunior09: the cdrom has windows drivers/software, not for linux
[06:01] <termNatorX> since linux still have to recognize hardware on bootup
[06:02] <termNatorX> maybe there is a way to configure the keyboard layout, i mean instead of using for input ps2 use usb
[06:02] <termNatorX> <.< jmanfoo ^^
[06:03] <termNatorX> well i could try to unplug the keyboard on the latitude
[06:03] <Jmanfoo> i wonder if termNatorX could redirect the actual ps2 device to null?
[06:03] <termNatorX> but ive never opend a laptop before ^^
[06:03] <Jmanfoo> oh its a laptop
[06:03] <termNatorX> yes
[06:03] <Jmanfoo> ouch
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> it might be possible, just not sure how to do it
[06:03] <termNatorX> well you can also disable a touchpad on a keyboard
[06:03] <termNatorX> so why not the internal keyboard too?
[06:04] <termNatorX> on a laptop
[06:04] <Jmanfoo> i still think redirecting the device to nowheresville would work
[06:04] <Jmanfoo> if you could determine which device it was
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> like I said, i would just remove the ps2 driver from the kernel, but that's a major pain, esp on a buntu box
[06:04] <termNatorX> hmm hmm
[06:04] <termNatorX> in windows you can disable some ports with 3rd part tools
[06:04] <termNatorX> 2k and xp
[06:05] <termNatorX> 98 you can do it with dos
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> plus, he wouldn't be able to change any options or make any selections in the grub menu
[06:05] <termNatorX> iam shure in linux there must be a solution too, omg you cant loose to windowze on such a problem ^^
[06:05] <Jmanfoo> how does linux treat a built-in keyboard, like a ps2?
[06:06] <Biovore> ps2
[06:06] <Biovore> you can technicaly disable it..
[06:06] <Jmanfoo> i thought there was some kind of setting for disabled people that would ignore random keystrokes
[06:06] <Biovore> thats in the gui only
[06:06] <termNatorX> it isnt a problem
[06:07] <termNatorX> if it works only in the gui
[06:07] <termNatorX> i could make autologin to gui
[06:07] <Jmanfoo> termNatorX look under the accessibility options, it should be there
[06:07] <Jmanfoo> its called sticky keys or something
[06:07] <Biovore> I know there is some weird feature like that in kde.  I always bugs me if I hold down the shift key for a long period of time
[06:08] <termNatorX> major problem is i need first to make a precompiled version where i make something similar to microsoft unatanded installtion
[06:08] <termNatorX> because i cant set any options on installing
[06:08] <termNatorX> i even cant format my box
[06:09] <termNatorX> so first i need a unatended installtion, where i doesnt need any keystrokes
[06:09] <Jmanfoo> i installed kubuntu with just a mouse :)
[06:09] <termNatorX> id did take me 1  hour to get into bios
[06:09] <termNatorX> and page
[06:09] <termNatorX> yes because you didnt had a keyboard
[06:09] <termNatorX> that press random buttons
[06:09] <termNatorX> even enter it does
[06:09] <Jmanfoo> this is true
[06:10] <cadavis> so i installed the nvidia driver and restarted X, but another program won't install because it can't find an OpenGL library, any ideas?
[06:10] <termNatorX> well i think i try the hardware way
[06:10] <termNatorX> maybe i dmg the laptop
[06:10] <NickPresta> cadavis, which application and what is the error?
[06:10] <termNatorX> but i think this is only solution <.<
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> termNatorX: sounds pretty damaged already :P
[06:10] <termNatorX> well only keyboard
[06:11] <termNatorX> its a good laptop so i fear to loose it all :D
[06:11] <termNatorX> its a dell! ^^
[06:11] <leon_> hi
[06:11] <NickPresta> !hi | leon_
[06:11] <ubotu> leon_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:11] <Biovore> I have 2 dell laptops
[06:11] <termNatorX> well but if it works in windowz, iam shure there is a way to workaround in linux too
[06:11] <leon_> some1 uses spanish?
[06:11] <cadavis> stepmania, error is:    configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found.
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> well, i'll refrain from insulting dell hw for the time being
[06:12] <NickPresta> !es | leon_
[06:12] <ubotu> leon_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:14] <cadavis> earlier today i did "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx", "sudo nvidia-xconfig", ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:14] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:15] <cadavis> and the nvidia driver is working, i did glxinfo and direct rendering is Yes, so i can't figure the problem
[06:16] <Biovore> !es
[06:16] <ardchoille> Biovore: The bot hasn't come bqack yet
[06:16] <termNatorX> http://www.wikihow.com/Remove-a-Laptop-Keyboard-from-a-Dell-Latitude-D505 <- haha
[06:16] <termNatorX> man i love internet ^^
[06:16] <robotgeek> Biovore: !kubuntu-es, maybe?
[06:16] <robotgeek> !es
[06:17] <robotgeek> damn ubotu, come back fast!
[06:17] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:17] <NickPresta> lol
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> gotta love the netsplit
[06:17] <leon_> thanks}
[06:18] <NickPresta> This channel went from 14 to 317. lol
[06:18] <Biovore> rgr.. net split oramba
[06:18] <stdin> you should have seen it in #ubuntu
[06:18] <stdin> about 500 people
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:18] <NickPresta> yeah
[06:18] <stdin> (500 parted)
[06:18] <termNatorX> man
[06:18] <termNatorX> iam still curious
[06:18] <termNatorX> this looks easyer then it is
[06:18] <RentonT> How do I disable X?
[06:19] <termNatorX> who did change a keyboard on a laptop so far? ^^
[06:19] <termNatorX> maybe share some experiance
[06:19] <RentonT> Keyboard?
[06:19] <stdin> RentonT: why do you need to?
[06:19] <termNatorX> yes
[06:19] <RentonT> I'm installing nvidia graphics drivers stdin
[06:19] <RentonT> temNatorX: i know that the keyboards I believe are soldered into their slots once connected <_<
[06:19] <stdin> RentonT: use the packages in the repos, NOT the download from nvidia
[06:19] <rizwan> hello
[06:19] <stdin> !nvidia | RentonT
[06:19] <ubotu> RentonT: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> RentonT: you can do that from the repos without shutting X down
[06:20] <Biovore> termNatorX: On most dell's there mylar ribbon connectors..
[06:20] <RentonT> You can't just answer my question?
[06:20] <termNatorX> RentonT: :/
[06:20] <RentonT> or....mylar
[06:20] <termNatorX> well
[06:20] <termNatorX> then i need a better solution to my problem
[06:21] <termNatorX> a software one
[06:21] <stdin> RentonT: no, because then you'll have more trouble later, when you get a kernel upgrade you'll have no X at all
[06:21] <Biovore> RentonT: log out.. and then press ctrl-alt-f1 to go to text console.. then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:21] <Biovore> that will kill X so the nvidia install will run
[06:21] <Biovore> then start X back up with sudo apt-get install kdm start
[06:21] <termNatorX> maybe i should use forums
[06:21] <termNatorX> about that problem
[06:22] <termNatorX> there should be a person, who can handle this problem ^^
[06:22] <robotgeek> Biovore: maybe /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:22] <RentonT> Thank you biovore
[06:22] <stdin> Biovore: he's already gt kdm installed, so why install it twice?
[06:22] <RentonT> no biovore is right
[06:22] <termNatorX> iam the only one on earth where the internal keyboard of a laptop is damaged? ^^
[06:22] <RentonT> it's start
[06:22] <NickPresta> termNatorX, keeping your person to one line, what are you having trouble with?
[06:22] <Biovore> he want so stop the service.. to he can run the nvidia install.. X need to not running..
[06:22] <robotgeek> termNatorX: connect with an external keyboard, or ssh in :)
[06:22] <Biovore> (installing nvidia's driver)
[06:23] <Jmanfoo> Biovore: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:23] <Biovore> rgr.. that is your doing the kuntu way
[06:23] <stdin> Biovore: no, you said "then start X back up with sudo apt-get install kdm start"
[06:23] <Biovore> he install nvidia's driver..
[06:23] <Assid> yllo
[06:23] <termNatorX> well i post in forum so it is easyer to post my problem again ^^
[06:24] <NickPresta> !pastebin | termNatorX
[06:24] <ubotu> termNatorX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:24] <Jmanfoo> anyone ever built glibc from scratch?
[06:25] <Biovore> yup
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> Jmanfoo: yeah
[06:25] <Biovore> its part of making a compiler
[06:25] <Biovore> ussualy
[06:25] <Jmanfoo> i'm doing linux-from-scratch on my poor wife's computer, what a headache, glibc always effs me up every time
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> heh...
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> Jmanfoo: why not just use gentoo, a stage 1 install is basically the same thing :P
[10:42] <cadavis> the coolest part was being able to use the livecd while ubuntu was installing in the background
[10:49] <lit3l> i go to radioblogclub.fr but that don't work :( what i need to make that work ?
[10:50] <blekos> hello
[10:50] <blekos> after the last update somg happened and could not log in to my /home partition
[10:51] <blekos> i found out that my UUID had changed
[10:51] <blekos> now i reinstalled the 7.04
[10:51] <blekos> anyone had the same problem?
[10:51] <blekos> i also tried the 7.10 but didnt have proper wireless support
[10:56] <surgy> i know its the wrong channel but can someone help me with my code please? its cpp
[10:58] <fkm> surgy: What's wrong with the #c++ channel?? Or is it a Kubuntu related question?
[10:59] <surgy> fkm: nah they are not answering my question
[10:59] <fkm> kk
[10:59] <surgy>  why cant i use labels to jump through code from function to function? do i need them to be labeled as global or something? if so how? here's my source: http://rafb.net/p/c1dm2o84.html
[10:59] <pawan> hi
[10:59] <alyssa_> question, d3d and wine, do I need more drugs?
[10:59] <surgy> yes
[10:59] <pawan> how to download mp3 codec for amarok
[10:59] <alyssa_> kinda thought so
[11:00] <pawan> i am using the livecd
[11:00] <alyssa_> says XFree86 yadda yadda missing on 0,0 I'm running xserver-xorg last I checked
[11:01] <alyssa_> but I really wanna run eve and refuse to pay for windoze to slow my machine to a crawl
[11:02] <surgy> !cedega alyssa_
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cedega alyssa_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <surgy> !cedega
[11:02] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:03] <fkm> surgy: I'm no C++ programmer
[11:03] <surgy> fkm: ok
[11:03] <fkm> But I would think that goto doesn't exist in C++ or any similar language
[11:04] <fkm> why not use while? I'm sure something like while or for exists in C(++)
[11:05] <stdin> surgy: goto is in C++, but it's not "nice" code
[11:05] <fkm> Ok, learned somthing new :)
[11:06] <surgy> stdin: mind if i pm you? mind a bit of small chat?
[11:07] <stdin> surgy: I'm sure you wouldn't get much out of me, I'm only 1/3 way through my book on C++ :p
[11:08] <surgy> stdin: lol well whould you like to see my redesigned code to get rid of the goto statements? tell me your input?
[11:08] <stdin> sure
[11:09] <lit3l> hi again, i have download the latest flash plugin and when i click on it that ask to me what programme i use for open it ... what should i do ?
[11:10] <stdin> lit3l: why not use the ubuntu package?
[11:11] <lit3l> what it is ?
[11:11] <lit3l> (i just start whith linux to day)
[11:11] <stdin> !falsh | lit3l follow this
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about falsh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <stdin> !flash | lit3l follow this
[11:12] <ubotu> lit3l follow this: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[11:12] <stdin> rather
[11:14] <lit3l> that all in inglish and i'm not verry good in inglish, i'm going to search in the french ubuntu web site
[11:14] <lit3l> thx :)
[11:14] <llutz> !fr | lit3l
[11:14] <ubotu> lit3l: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:16] <lit3l> yes i'm at ubuntu-fr :)
[11:17] <lit3l> Oh i see that not simple cause i'have an amd64   >.<
[11:28] <albert> hi, i've successfully configured TwinView, but now my KDE desktop icons appear at the right screen instead of the left one. how can i fix this?
[11:28] <ubuntu> need help to reinstall thr grub to get back ;y partition of linux
[11:30] <payam> hello
[11:31] <ubuntu> need help to reinstall thr grub to get back ;y partition of linux
[11:31] <tarek> hi guys
[11:32] <ubuntu> tarek: za is tab?
[11:32] <tarek> i have a little problem with ubuntu and that is when im typing righ now, i takes some time that my typed letters appear on the screen
[11:34] <Road_kill> nooooooo
[11:34] <Road_kill> my sweet sweet Amarok doesn't load at all for some reason
[11:35] <Road_kill> I want someone's opinion
[11:35] <Road_kill> is it me, or does Google in Firefox/Konquerer seem alot less readable in KDE in comparison to GNOME?
[11:36] <pawan> hi
[11:36] <ubuntu> need help to reinstall thr grub to get back ;y partition of linux
[11:38] <ubuntu> need help to reinstall thr grub to get back ;y partition of linux
[11:38] <ubuntu> need help to reinstall the grub to get back my partition of linux
[11:38] <Maxdamantus> GRUB is easy to reinstall.
[11:38] <trekdanne> ubuntu: run grub-install
[11:39] <trekdanne> ubuntu: should do it provided that your /boot/grub/menu.lst is correct
[11:40] <pawan> whats up
[11:41] <ubuntu> trekdanne: im on feisty on cd live grub install did not work.
[11:42] <ubuntu> trekdanne: they give me this web site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but i dont understqnd
[11:45] <Road_kill> Anyone have any idea how to get Kweather to work
[11:45] <nmjohnso> i was wondering if there is a way to sync my kontact with my google calendar
[11:47] <ubuntu> trekdanne: zat do i have to type if i got a grub promp?
[11:47] <trekdanne> ubuntu: K menu -> System -> Konsole -> type: "sudo grub-install"
[11:47] <trekdanne> ubuntu: you generally don't have to do it if you're /boot/grub/menu.lst is setup'ed
[11:48] <rollo> how can i see what someone writes when using ssh (screen x) ????
[11:49] <trekdanne> rollo: hmm what do you mean? are you running the server and wants to see what the clients do?
[11:49] <OutsiderNZ> roar
[11:50] <trekdanne> rollo: or are you trying to intercept ssh-traffic
[11:50] <ubuntu> trekdanne: sudo grub in the konsole give me some msg.i didnt see it install anything
[11:50] <trekdanne> ubuntu: hmm it should
[11:50] <rollo> unning the server and wants to see what the clients do? trekdanne
[11:50] <OutsiderNZ> How am I able to create a static IP?
[11:50] <trekdanne> rollo: hmm can you explain a little more about your setup
[11:52] <arun> Will Gutsy Gibbon be using KDE4?
[11:52] <trekdanne> OutsiderNZ: ifconfig eth0 <ip>
[11:52] <trekdanne> arun: probably not,
[11:52] <raj> guys which is better ubuntu or kubuntu ...???
[11:52] <trekdanne> raj: that's a matter of opinion
[11:52] <trekdanne> !best
[11:52] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[11:52] <ubuntu> trekdanne: how can i show u za it give me like msg?
[11:53] <ubuntu> raj: K
[11:53] <ubuntu> for me
[11:53] <raj> thx
[11:53] <trekdanne> !paste | ubuntu
[11:53] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:53] <rollo> trekdanne: my friend is using ssh to help me with this computer and i know i can watch what he is doing ... thought screen -x would be the command
[11:53] <trekdanne> ubuntu: paste the output there, would you
[11:53] <arun> trekdanne: will kde4 be out anytime soon? what file manager will gutsy use? what about desktop effects in gutsy?
[11:54] <raj> well im confused i mean i am using ubuntu .... but i like kubuntu's KDE desktop .. can i get kubuntu on top of ubuntu and then switch back and forth?
[11:54] <trekdanne> rollo: yea you're right that should work
[11:54] <ubuntu> raj: fedora
[11:54] <raj> fedora??
[11:55] <trekdanne> raj: yes
[11:55] <Road_kill> Can anyone help me with getting a weather program? Perhaps KWeather?
[11:55] <Road_kill> I got its package
[11:55] <arun> raj: you can
[11:55] <trekdanne> raj: install the kubuntu-dektop package
[11:55] <raj> i mean can i switch back and forth between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[11:55] <Road_kill> but how do i run it
[11:55] <raj> trek .. if i did can then uninstalled it do i get ubuntu Gnome back?
[11:56] <pawan> how to install camorama
[11:56] <trekdanne> raj: you can select from the login menu "KDE or GNOME"
[11:56] <arun> raj: yes, you can switch
[11:56] <raj> okay thx guys
[11:56] <raj> ill do that now
[11:57] <bobox> hello
[11:58] <trekdanne> !hi | bobox
[11:58] <ubotu> bobox: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:59] <bobox> Est-ce que quelqu'un sait comment utiliser KDE 4 ?
[11:59] <ubuntu> trekdanne: i dont understand the past bin
[11:59] <llutz> !fr | bobox
[11:59] <ubotu> bobox: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:59] <ubuntu> trekdanne: You appear to be spamming the pastebin. I hate spammers so I won't let you. If you're not attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam check
[12:00] <bobox> ok thank you
[12:00] <trekdanne> ubuntu: ?
[12:00] <trekdanne> ubuntu: strange
[12:00] <Road_kill> bah! Can someone please help me with this? I installed KWeather. eg "sudo apt-get install kweather" but I don't know how to execute it!!!!! What do i do?
[12:01] <Road_kill> never mind
[12:01] <Road_kill> I just found
[12:01] <Road_kill> out
[12:01] <Road_kill> I am an idiot :)
[12:01] <ubuntu> trekdanne: it give me that like errror after i paste.to send the msg u have to click paste?
[12:01] <trekdanne> ubuntu: try a different paste bin. just google for "paste bin"
[12:02] <llutz> rafb.net/paste
[12:03] <ubuntu> trekdanne: this my first using a paste bin
[12:04] <ubuntu> its not easy feisty just to install grub
[12:06] <ubuntu> trekdanne: http://pastebin.com/d2c8758f9 i paste it there
[12:07] <ubuntu> trekdanne: its the msg i got when i type sudo grub-install
[12:09] <ubuntu> trekdanne: did u see it?//
[12:11] <LoneShadow> !kcontrol
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kcontrol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <ubuntu> trekdanne: u there?
[12:11] <emja> i've hunted google but haven't yet found a reasonable howto for kde/kubuntu and ssh-agent, etc. anyone know of one?
[12:12] <LoneShadow> Whats the difference between App. & Themes -> Theme Manager and KDM Theme Manager ?
[12:12] <LoneShadow> !theme
[12:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[12:13] <LoneShadow> !changethemes
[12:13] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[12:15] <mikess1> Just reinstalled alsa with patches,still no sound:(
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> LoneShadow, KDM is the desktop manager.
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> The GUI based interface where you log in.
[12:18] <mikess1> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:18] <mikess1> not supported
[12:18] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: can u help me to reinstall my grub?
[12:19] <Maxdamantus> ubuntu, run "grub" in the terminal.
[12:20] <Maxdamantus> Oh, first find out what device you want to use.
[12:20] <alyssa_> first find out why grub crapped out in the first place
[12:20] <LoneShadow> Maxdamantus: isnt that the splash screen for login ?
[12:21] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: its the name of my hdd i have to put?like i na;e it AQUARIUS
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> LoneShadow, it's not a splash screen.
[12:21] <Maxdamantus> ubuntu, is the boot partition the same as the root partition?
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> LoneShadow, a splash screen is displayed when things are loading.
[12:22] <LoneShadow> I installed Ubuntu Feisty and then installed KDE Desktop, not sure if my theme manager is fine
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> Like when Kubuntu is booting, by default, it has a black screen, with blue writing saying "Kubuntu"
[12:22] <Maxdamantus> LoneShadow, then you'll probably have GDM.
[12:23] <Maxdamantus> Gnome Desktop Manager
[12:23] <LoneShadow> I choose KDM to boot with
[12:23] <LoneShadow> chose*
[12:23] <Maxdamantus> It's still compatible with KDE, but KDE has options for KDM inside it.
[12:23] <Maxdamantus> apt-get install kdm
[12:23] <LoneShadow> I did "aptitude install kde-desktop"
[12:24] <Maxdamantus> That's the K Desktop Environment.
[12:24] <Maxdamantus> KDM is the K Desktop Manager
[12:24] <Maxdamantus> You don't need it, GDM will work with it.
[12:24] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: dont understand.all i know is my hdd for feisty is adenicio thats the name of my linux hdd my xp name aquarius
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> ubuntu, so you want a dual boot between XP and Linux?
[12:25] <LoneShadow> KDM got installed along with KDE-Desktop
[12:25] <LoneShadow> let me try relogging
[12:25] <LoneShadow> brb
[12:25] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: yes i reinstall xp so the grub is gone
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> I can help you getting GRUB to work with Linux. Havn't booted XP in GRUB though, but I think there's an example in the default installation.
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> df | grep /
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> Look at the first line.
[12:29] <Maxdamantus> And tell me what's after the first "/dev/" part.
[12:31] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: nothing it just got / for the first line
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Nothing like:
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> /dev/sdb7              24G   17G  6.2G  73% /
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> ?
[12:32] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: nothing for the first line.but the others have
[12:33] <ubuntu> 1% /var/run
[12:33] <ubuntu> 1% /var/lock
[12:33] <ubuntu> 2% /proc/bus/usb
[12:33] <ubuntu> 2% /dev
[12:34] <ubuntu> 0% /dev/shm
[12:34] <ubuntu> 6% /lib/modules/2.6.20-8-ge
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Ok, just do df -h
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> And see if you can see what "/" is.
[12:34] <mikess1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473425&highlight=toshiba
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Oh. You're on the LiveCD.
[12:35] <mikess1> ^^ above fix did not work,,A200
[12:35] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: nothing still
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> ls /dev/sd*
[12:37] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: it keep givin me error when i paste
[12:37] <Maxdamantus> Put a space before the /
[12:37] <runlevelten> !pastebin
[12:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:38] <ubuntu> paste/dev/sda1             234G  223G   11G  96% /media/SWISNIFE1
[12:38] <Maxdamantus> runlevelten, he means a single lined output.. Most likely.
 1% /var/run<ubuntu> 1% /var/lock<ubuntu> 2% /proc/bus/usb<ubuntu> 2% /dev<ubuntu> 0% /dev/shm<ubuntu> 6% /lib/modules/2.6.20-8-ge <-- this is a flood.
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> ubotu, is that the XP or Linux partition?
[12:39] <ubuntu> sorry
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> ls /media/SWISNIFE1
[12:39] <runlevelten> np - just use pastebin, innit :)
[12:39] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: no its my external hdd
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Then I don't think you have any other drives inside the box.
[12:40] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: should i mount the xp partition?
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Generally, external HDs have lower priority, therefore are numbered after the IDE ones.
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> ubuntu, no, mount the Linux partition.
[12:43] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: ok its mount
[12:43] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: now?
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> Ok, what's the device?
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> /dev/(something)
[12:45] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: dev/hdb1
[12:46] <Maxdamantus> Run "grub"
[12:46] <Maxdamantus> Then, inside that, try typing "root (hd1,0)"
[12:48] <illriginal> can anyone help me to get my bluetooth usb adapter to work, please?
[12:50] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: in the konsole i have to type grub then press enter then rite root hdb1?
[12:52] <tobias> ubuntu: you got to wirte "grub" in the konsole, press enter then type "root (hd1,0) and press enter again
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> You got the first part correct.
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> root (hd1,0)
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> And if it doesn't output any errors, then do "setup (hd1,0)"
[12:53] <ubuntu> nothing happen
[12:53] <tobias> what does it echo ?
[12:53] <ubuntu> ???
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> It shouldn't echo anything.
[12:53] <ubuntu> echo?
[12:53] <Maxdamantus> Unless it generates an error.
[12:54] <tobias> Maxdamantus: thats what I wanted to know
[12:54] <tobias> ;)
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> Now do "setup (hd1,0)"
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> And it should say it's doing stuff.
[12:54] <Maxdamantus> And hopefully won't come up with an error.
[12:55] <ubuntu> done succeeded
[12:55] <ubuntu> its that all?
[12:55] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd1,0)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[12:56] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[12:56] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: i got that error in 2 lines
[12:57] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus:
[12:57] <ubuntu> Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd1,0) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[12:57] <ubuntu> .lst "... succeeded
[12:58] <ubuntu> that came out good
[12:58] <Maxdamantus> Try booting.. See if GRUB loads.. It probably won't be configured to boot Kubuntu though, so you'll need to come back here for help with that.
[12:58] <Maxdamantus> Make sure you take out the CD and other bootable media.
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> But just see if the GRUB boot menu comes up.
[12:59] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: so i have to restart the pc then?
[12:59] <Maxdamantus> Yes.
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> Wait
[01:00] <ubuntu> lol
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> First quit GRUB, to make sure nothing bad happens.
[01:00] <Maxdamantus> I think the command is "quit" or "exit"
[01:01] <ubuntu> Maxdamantus: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:01] <ubuntu> it gone back to that
[01:01] <ubuntu> restart now?
[01:02] <rc-1> how do i install a .deb?
[01:03] <ubuntu> rc-1: right clic the deb ther is an option to install
[01:03] <Maxdamantus> rc-1, if you want to do it from the command line, cd to the directory it's in.
[01:03] <Maxdamantus> Then "sudo dpkg -i <file>"
[01:03] <rc-1> ah ok thanks, (there wasnt the graphical option)
[01:04] <Maxdamantus> I think you don't include the ".deb" in the file name.
[01:04] <tobias> rc-1: yes there is
[01:04] <Maxdamantus> Graphical options are ftl.
[01:04] <tobias> still they are there
[01:04] <Maxdamantus> Often, it doesn't show std(err|out)
[01:05] <tobias> well I just like typing the whole thing out, so I never use it either
[01:05] <Maxdamantus> Lol. I've usually got about 15 terminals open in Konsole. ^_^
[01:07] <Maxdamantus> 2 for remote shells, about 3 for my Gentoo box through SSH, a few for different PHP projects, one for mplayer.. The rest are reserved for whatever I need to do.
[01:07] <tobias> I always got around 3-4 in my yakuake - no need for more ;o
[01:08] <malqos> hi
[01:08] <tobias> hi malqos
[01:08] <malqos> anyone from poland?
[01:08] <Maxdamantus> And I'm having file problems with Konqueror, and other file browsers in KDE.
[01:08] <Maxdamantus> It only seems to be showing files from before a specific date.
[01:09] <illriginal> can someone help me with my Bluetooth issue?
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> However, I can see them in the terminal.
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> $ ls -lh phpbnc.php
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> -rw-r--r-- 1 maxdamantus maxdamantus 5.2K 2007-08-14 18:16 phpbnc.php
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> That doesn't show in Kedit, Konqueror, and Kate.
[01:10] <Maxdamantus> "The file or folder file:///68gig/home/maxdamantus/php/phpbnc.php does not exist."
[01:10] <illriginal> I'm following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup and im getting stuck...
[01:11] <illriginal> im getting stuck at the connect step... and I really need help with this.. please.
[01:11] <runlevelten> Maxdamantus: Are you using locate:// or something?
[01:12] <runlevelten> *locate:/
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> runlevelten, no.
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> Wait.. It works now.. Somehow.
[01:13] <illriginal> jesus man... where the heck are all the old skool people
[01:13] <malqos> i have problem with  adept manager, how can i close it? i restart my computer and nothing, stil the same: sun-java5-jdk
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> Ah. I see what's happened.
[01:13] <malqos> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[01:13] <malqos> what can i do?
[01:13] <runlevelten> Maxdamantus: What is it?
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[01:14] <stdin> !aptfix | malqos, try this
[01:14] <ubotu> malqos, try this: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:14] <malqos> thanks
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> I used to have my /home and /tmp as a symlink to /68gig/home and /68gig/tmp
[01:15] <Maxdamantus> And then I moved them to the root partition.
[01:15] <illriginal> I'm following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup  but I'm gettin stuck when I try to connect.. can someone PLEASE help me.
[01:15] <Maxdamantus> And KDE seems to be still treating "~" as /68gig/home/maxdamantus/
[01:15] <Maxdamantus> Rather than /home/maxdamantus
[01:15] <runlevelten> Aha.
[01:15] <Maxdamantus> Xd
[01:16] <stdin> check in: system settings > about me > paths
[01:16] <stdin> Maxdamantus: ^
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> Yea, I found that.
[01:16] <illriginal> am i on ignore or something <,<
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> After I realised that ~ shouldn't be pointing to /68gig/....
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> God damn it.
[01:17] <stdin> !repeat
[01:17] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> I'm lying in my bed, and keep accidentally pressing my foot against the wall.
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> And I can feel chunks of the wall falling away.
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> Feels very rotten.
[01:17] <illriginal> <
[01:17] <illriginal> o.O
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> Should probably get that checked out.
[01:20] <ubuntu__> ola
[01:20] <illriginal> I can see that my bluetooth sees my cell phone: illriginal@illriginal:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:1B:52:9A:32:F7Can't get device information: Success
[01:20] <ubuntu__> tengo un problema
[01:20] <ubuntu__> alguien me puede ayudar?
[01:20] <illriginal> but what does "can't get device information: success
[01:21] <illriginal> esto pinche cabrones no ayuden a una persona bro.
[01:21] <stdin> !es | ubuntu__
[01:21] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:22] <ubuntu__> necesito ayuda me pueden ayudar
[01:23] <illriginal> trata #ubuntu-es
[01:24] <ubuntu__> nadie me ayuda..:(
[01:26] <jaba__vg> alguien me ayuda???
[01:26] <jaba__vg> plz
[01:27] <jaba__vg> eske con windows me cargue el grub y ahora toy con kubunto live cd como ago para entrar en linux?
[01:28] <stdin> jaba__vg:  Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda
[01:28] <jaba__vg> ai no ai nadie!
[01:30] <jaba__vg> ayudaaaaa!
[01:31] <jaba__vg> joder
[01:31] <jaba__vg> ke me ayude alguien
[01:32] <x_link> Hi
[01:32] <x_link> Why is it not possible to see the volumecontroll in VLC in Kubuntu?
[01:33] <runlevelten> x_link: there's a #videolan channel.
[01:33] <runlevelten> :)
[01:33] <malqos> one more time ubotu thakns, i did something else but right now everything is working
[01:33] <malqos> :)
[01:33] <x_link> runlevelten: he ok
[01:38] <ksivaji> i have general question,if i enter a link that point my yahoo account inbox in address bar i am not getting inbox page instead i get login page ,anyone know how it works ?
[01:39] <phayz> having downloaded several packages offline, what's the best way of having them installed locally instead of from remote repos?
[01:40] <ksivaji> runlevelten stdin : ?
[01:40] <runlevelten> ksivaji: that would be yahoo's choice, I presume.
[01:40] <stdin> ksivaji: probably because you have to login?
[01:41] <ksivaji> ya i know i have to login. how it works ?
[01:41] <runlevelten> years ago, it became clear that links to people's mail inboxes should require proper authentication.
[01:41] <runlevelten> heh
[01:42] <runlevelten> ksivaji: Doesn't kwallet log you in automatically?
[01:42] <ksivaji> runlevelten ho  understand my situation ,i want to use such tech in my project
[01:43] <ksivaji> that is why i am asking you
[01:43] <runlevelten> you want to do the same thing on your website?
[01:44] <stdin> only someone with your username/password can access your yahoo mail
[01:44] <ksivaji> yes
[01:44] <stdin> ah
[01:44] <runlevelten> well when it's suitably built up, you'll be able to test for whether the user is authenticated.
[01:45] <runlevelten> by the time you've got that far, it will be clear to you how to turf them to a login page if they aren't authenticated :)
[01:46] <stdin> you can use squirrelmail for a webmail site
[01:47] <S4MM1> What is the best NES/C64 tracker for (k)ubuntu?
[01:47] <runlevelten> Yeah, if it's a webmail site you're building, a canned solution may be for the best.
[01:48] <chat_> hi
[01:48] <S4MM1> chat_: You swe? :)
[01:48] <runlevelten> S4MM1: like an audio sequencer, or another thing?
[01:49] <runlevelten> for the other thing, not kubuntu-specific.
[01:49] <S4MM1> audio
[01:49] <S4MM1> What is the best NES/C64 tracker for ubuntu then?
[01:49] <S4MM1> =P
[01:51] <runlevelten> I don't know anything about the audio editing thing. I presume they allow you to synthesise right to an emulated sid chip and stuff?
[01:51] <runlevelten> That would be cool. I loved the sid chip.
[01:51] <S4MM1> yes
[01:51] <S4MM1> sid :P
[01:52] <S4MM1> Is there any .sid player for ubuntu..?
[02:10] <malqos> i  have kde 3.5.6 on kubuntu 7.04. can someone help me in instalation kde 3.5.7?
[02:11] <stdin> malqos: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[02:13] <malqos> thanks
[02:19] <DexterF> hi
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> hey
[02:20] <DexterF> want to make a video dvd ready for standalone players. i got a couple of VOB an one IFO file, where do I go from here?
[02:21] <zubian> how do you check what version u have?
[02:21] <trekdanne> hmm what do you guys think of krita (compared to gimp)
[02:22] <RadiantFire> trekdanne: with the exception of the text insertion, I find it better
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> trekdanne: hmmm its OK.... better because its QT, but also slightly harder to use
[02:23] <RadiantFire> trekdanne: but I've never done very much with it, but the few things I had to do, were easier and faster
[02:23] <RadiantFire> i dunno,I like the fact its all in one window
[02:24] <trekdanne> RadiantFire: hmm ok ill have a look
[02:26] <RadiantFire> trekdanne: the one thing I do know, Krita supports "high end" color spaces much better than the gimp, but appears to have fewer file output options
[02:26] <trekdanne> RadiantFire: "high end"
[02:26] <trekdanne> ?
[02:28] <runlevelten> krita isn't where I need it to be yet. :(
[02:28] <runlevelten> I'd love to be using it.
[02:28] <RadiantFire> trekdanne: all kinds of different color spaces and converting between them, I'm don't know much about this stuff, but it does ltos of other stuff besides normal RBG and CKY and can convert between them
[02:29] <RadiantFire> the 2.0 looks nifty with all the like natural paint drying stuff
[02:29] <BluesKaj> howdy all :0
[02:29] <runlevelten> hi BluesKaj
[02:29] <BluesKaj> hi runleveltenl
[02:30] <BluesKaj> KB is acting up...or I'm not awake yet
[02:31] <BluesKaj> 1st cuppa java should fix me up :)
[02:33] <BluesKaj> KDE4 won't install due to dependency hell , but it doesn't tell which ones will break or are needed :(
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> hello BluesKaj
[02:38] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[02:38] <BluesKaj> I tried both apt and adept with bad results , so i hope when KDE4 is officially launched that my setup can accomodate it.
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: try aptitude....
[02:39] <BluesKaj> wonder if it could be my xorg file
[02:40] <BluesKaj> oh yeah nosrednaekim, forgot to mention , I tried aptitude first
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[02:41] <BluesKaj> maybe kde4 doesn't mate well with the modded and patched fglrx driver I'm using
[02:42] <aguitel> how i make backup for xorg.conf file?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> i;m running it with fglrx.... I don't hink that woul cause dependency problems. are you upgrading an old version?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> aguitel:
[02:42] <GliderMike> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:43] <aguitel> to lines?
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> Just enter that into the terminal.
[02:43] <Maxdamantus> And enter your password if prompted.
[02:43] <aguitel> ok
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> one or the other aguitel...
[02:44] <GliderMike> exactly, we happened to both respond at the same time
[02:44] <deathroll_> people
[02:44] <deathroll_> i need help
[02:45] <deathroll_> i saw that  my friend has a tool
[02:45] <deathroll_> a program that shows him free ram memory
[02:45] <BluesKaj> yeah nosrednaekim i'm running the 8.35.5-x86.x86_64 fglrx from whoopie.gmxhome.de/linux/patches
[02:45] <deathroll_> and processor memory
[02:45] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,how i restore ?
[02:45] <deathroll_> how can i open that in my ubuntu /
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> doubt that the problem
[02:45] <Maxdamantus> Processor memory?
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:46] <aguitel> thanks
[02:46] <Maxdamantus> deathroll,
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> That information is obtained from the file at /proc/meminfo
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> Programs just parse that file.
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> And there are many programs out there that do it.
[02:47] <Maxdamantus> One is ksysguard, which should be included with KDE.
[02:47] <JohnFlux> deathroll: press ctrl+esc
[02:48] <Maxdamantus> JohnFlux, sometimes that shortcut is assigned to open the menu. :P
[02:48] <Maxdamantus> Usually, if ctrl + esc doesn't do it, then ctrl + alt + del will.
[02:48] <Tuxux> Lafedssa
[02:48] <JohnFlux> Maxdamantus: it should be alt+f1  to open the menu
[02:48] <JohnFlux> by default
[02:49] <Maxdamantus> On the default installation of Kubuntu KDE perhaps.
[02:49] <Maxdamantus> But alot of the time, people choose KDE to assign shortcuts similar to Windows.
[02:50] <Maxdamantus> Which includes ctrl + esc for menu, and ctrl + alt + del
[02:50] <Maxdamantus> For ksysguard*
[02:51] <robinson> klobster, youawake?
[02:51] <JohnFlux> Maxdamantus: oh, okay
[02:52] <robinson> klobster: you helped me last night with "sherwin"'s LTmodem issue by providing me with a script to automate the creation of a symlink to /dev/modem
[02:52] <aguitel> nosrednaekim ,i have error some times when i start a program for example adept it NOT start ,but for the second time it work
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: thats a KDESU bug no oubt.
[02:53] <robinson> just wanted to know how to undo that in case we buy a hardware modem
[02:53] <robinson> would i simply delete the script from /etc/init.d ?
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: does it only happen to apps that require you to enter your password
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> ?
[02:53] <aguitel> what does means?
[02:53] <aguitel> yes
[02:53] <aguitel> yes
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: yeah,thats the KDEsu bug.
[02:54] <aguitel> how i fix this
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: wait for gutsy :)
[02:54] <aguitel> who is gutzy ?
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> !gutsy
[02:54] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:55] <aguitel> ook
[02:55] <aguitel> nosrednaekim,do you have same problem?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> trying synaptic with kde4
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: occasionally
[02:56] <aguitel> what is kde4?
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> !kde4
[02:56] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> It's the KDE after KDE3.9
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> ^^thats a bit old
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Maxdamantus: not true :)
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Well, 3.5 then
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Or whatever it is.
[02:58] <aguitel> nosrednaekim,i think Beryl is not working well
[02:59] <aguitel> what do you thinK?
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: I think you need to be a bit more specific
[03:01] <robinson> if i added a script to be run at startup and updated rc.d, how would i remove it? is deleting the script enough?
[03:02] <aguitel> nosrednaekim,when Beryl is running ,more errors in the system happens
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: oh.
[03:06] <Artimus> can anyone else get to Slashdot or osuosl.org right now?
[03:07] <aguitel> Beryl have bugs?
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Artimus: yep
[03:07] <Artimus> ...  uh oh
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: oh yeah...
[03:07] <Artimus> Somehow, I've lost access to half the internet.
[03:07] <Lynoure> Artimus: traceroute to check out where it fails
[03:08] <harmental80> hey guys...is there an official irc open office channel?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim>  /. is the whole internet
[03:08] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: 1/2 slashdot 1/2 porn?
[03:08] <Zombie> Assistance with Xorg screen resolution issue?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> heck no.. I don't do that stuff
[03:09] <robinson> harmental80:  open office channel is   #Openoffice.org
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> Zombie:  go ahead
[03:09] <robinson> that is on irc.freenode.net
[03:09] <Zombie> I'm attempting to add support for some odd resolutions to my configuration.
[03:09] <Zombie> Particular
[03:09] <Zombie> Particularly
[03:09] <Zombie> 300x240 and 400x300
[03:10] <Zombie> But something is a miss.
[03:10] <harmental80> robinson: thx!
[03:10] <Artimus> Lynoure: Traceroute reports "unknown host" in both cases.  A working website works (slowly)
[03:10] <aguitel> nosrednaekim,when gutzy is comming i need to reinstall or just to upgrade the system ?
[03:10] <Lynoure> Artimus: then you dns server is lacking
[03:10] <Artimus> Lynoure: I guess I'll switch back to my ISP's servers.  I've been using Level3's DNS because my ISP tampers with their's
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> !gusty | aguitel
[03:10] <ubotu> aguitel: It is spelt guTSy :)
[03:11] <Lynoure> Artimus: use both?
[03:11] <aguitel> ok
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> !gutsy | aguitel
[03:12] <ubotu> aguitel: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:13] <Zombie> My xrandr reports different configureions than xorg.conf
[03:13] <Zombie> If that makes sense
[03:14] <Artimus> Yeah, Gutsy didn't fair so well on my box...
[03:14] <Artimus> broken apt dependencies, no thanks
[03:15] <hydrogen> !xgl
[03:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:15] <Zombie> Anyone else?
[03:15] <Zombie> Help?
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: those are kinda low resolutions for running kubutnu.
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> mind me asking why you need them?
[03:17] <Zombie> Certain applications need them in full screen mode.
[03:19] <GliderMike> @Manchicken:  Sorry to hear your Dell woes (saw the blog).  I just ordered a desktop from them and it shipped ahead of schedule.
[03:21] <sito> amarok 2 is avaliable?
[03:21] <Artimus> There's an Amarok 2?
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> sito: is it available now?
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> where?
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Artimus: yep.. for KDE4
[03:22] <sito> for kde3 no?
[03:22] <Artimus> I look forward to trying it out.  It'd be nice to not have to use a postgresql database with my music collection.  I hope they've improved the SQLite performance
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> sito: you're going to need all the KDE4 libraries
[03:23] <sito> ok nosrednaekim thanks for your information
[03:27] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim,well tried synaptic ...it seemed to install ok, then when i reopened synaptic , received the fix broken pkges message which I dutifully followed , then it installed another kde4 libfile , but still no kde4 at the login . KDE4 resides in the /usr/lib/kde4 file but it has no configure file
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> you have to do some manual stuff, look on the kubuntu page.
[03:30] <Zombie> nosrednaekim: Hello?
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> sorry, didn't see your message... please include my name in the messages.
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> and i'll include your's, Zombie ;)\
[03:32] <daftman> hi does anyone know how to restore the default kubuntu font setting?
[03:32] <daftman> i've tried installing msfont but now it suck
[03:32] <bonzai> hi
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> daftman:  I think there is a "defualts"button in the font configurator
[03:33] <bonzai> I have a question?
[03:33] <Lynoure> daftman: press the little "defaults" button
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: no clue actually... go to #xorg
[03:33] <bonzai> about Jabber
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> bonzai: ok
[03:34] <Lynoure> Occasionally, namely at the startup of konsole I get wrong font as my default font. It claims still to be ShareTech Mono but actually is something horrible, not matching any of the fonts in konsole's font selection. Same happens if I set the same font in KDE settings.
[03:34] <bonzai> Gmail for jabber is good ? or is it better to use im.apnic.org?
[03:34] <Lynoure> Any idea what could fix this?
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> bonzai: gtalk is fine.. thats what I use
[03:36] <daftman> i think I accidentally delete my fonts.conf in etc/fonts/
[03:36] <daftman> is there anyway to get it back?
[03:37] <Zombie> nosrednaekim: Where does KIUbuntu save its Xorg configuration?
[03:37] <bonzai> thanks you nosrednaekim
[03:37] <Zombie> nosrednaekim: Where does KUbuntu save its Xorg configuration?
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:37] <Zombie> The issue is my xrandr and xorg.xconf say two different things.
[03:37] <bonzai> is gtalk used with kopete
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> hmm.
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> like I said... its an issue for #xorg.
[03:38] <Zombie> xrandr says acceptable resolutioons are 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> bonzai: you can.
[03:38] <Zombie> but xorg.conf lists the only modeline as 1200x800
[03:38] <bonzai> thanks nosrednaekim
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> Zombie:  like I said... its an issue for #xorg.
[03:39] <RurouniJones> I have always thought that xorg should be mings brother. "I am Emperor Xorg!"
[03:42] <BluesKaj> I got plasma to show up on the desktop , but it promptly crashed ...kde4 defintely not ready for my setup
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> :)
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you shoul really check out some of the apps... like konsole
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> and kate
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> and ocular
[03:44] <BluesKaj> not going any further for fear of breaking stuff that already runs fine :)
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you can't break anything.
[03:45] <steven> :)
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: seriously... everything is separated
[03:45] <BluesKaj> konsole ? ..i use it a lot , what's different?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> I use kate a lot as well
[03:47] <BluesKaj> I don't understand what you mean , nosrednaekim ?
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: kde4 doesn't touch kde3
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: inline search.... and some other stuff.
[03:48] <hydrogen_> and its all still in a state of brokenness
[03:50] <BluesKaj> yeah , Iknow they kde3 & 4 are supposed to exist sise by side in kdm , but the export commands on the http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php page didn't work or i don't understand the instructions . Altho . I'm sure i followed them to the letter  :(
[03:51] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: error messages?
[03:51] <stdin> BluesKaj: what went wrong? (and Hi)
[03:51] <DaveTheAve> Hello, I'm getting a little upset with my system. Every time I attempt to load Thunderbird, it attempts to load than never shows up. It worked yesteday, and I have done numerous restarted and updated the system.
[03:52] <mc|dads> Anybody set up auto-scan for clamav on dapper?
[03:52] <DaveTheAve> restarted = restarts*
[03:52] <mc|dads> I'm building a backup server for my dad, and I thought it'd be a good idea if I had automatic scans running.
[03:52] <stdin> DaveTheAve: try starting it from konsole, you may get some useful information back
[03:52] <BluesKaj> editing the /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop file for one ..wasn't allowed access or it's blank
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj:  its in /usr/share/xsessions
[03:54] <BluesKaj> hi stdin, well, i'll try to install KDE4 another time .. facing a bit of a deadline this morning , so I'll have to wait till tomorrow ...I've already removed KDE4
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok
[03:55] <stdin> DaveTheAve: well thank you for the flood of IMs :P we have a site for that http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so everyone can see
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> BRB.... rebooting into gutsy
[03:56] <DaveTheAve> stdin: thought that would have been simplier; sorry
[03:56] <Ozoned> morning, Does anyone here know how to set the monitor res?
[03:56] <Ozoned> System has reset to 640x480 and sysadmin gui will not show a higher res setting, thx
[03:56] <stdin> BluesKaj: well, I'll probably be here when you try :P so we'll see then
[03:57] <stdin> Ozoned: system settings > Display
[03:58] <Ozoned> stdin: Thanks, are u referring to the menu gui?
[03:58] <stdin> Ozoned: yeah, in the Kmenu
[03:59] <Ozoned> stdin: K, problem is, it does not allow a setting higher than 640x480...
[04:00] <stdin> Ozoned: take a look at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:00] <stdin> DaveTheAve: what version of thunderbird and kubuntu do you have ?
[04:01] <Ozoned> stdin: thx, I take a dekko
[04:01] <hydrogen_> I somehow broke the command on konsole that tells you what package contains a given program if its not installed
[04:01] <DaveTheAve> Thunderbird 2 and Gusty
[04:01] <hydrogen_> whenever I type in a command thats not installed it segfaults
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok, thx nosrednaekim, stdin :)
[04:01] <hydrogen_> what program is it that does this?
[04:01] <DaveTheAve> stdin: Thunderbird 2 and Gusty
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> NP
[04:01] <stdin> DaveTheAve: you'll find better help in #ubuntu+1 then
[04:02] <DaveTheAve> stdin: thank you
[04:02] <BluesKaj> later gents
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> bye
[04:03] <stdin> hydrogen_: it's the file in /etc/bash_command_not_found that gets sourced by bash
[04:03] <ksivaji> !gnome
[04:03] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> and a piece of crap.. they forgot that vital component.. :)
[04:05] <stoned> I have amd64 and 32bit firefox/java/flash per the wiki page for ubuntu
[04:06] <stoned> I now need another documation for installing nspluginwrapper to get flash in konqueror
[04:06] <stoned> please advise
[04:06] <stoned> documentation*
[04:08] <stoned> anyone?
[04:08] <stdin> stoned: nspluginwrapper isn't officially supported (yet?), there is some info on the ubuntu forums, like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> eh it worked for me with firefox.
[04:10] <stdin> nosrednaekim: see !WorksForMe :p
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> yeah yeah...
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> but its not dangerous.
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> like automatix
[04:13] <stdin> didn't say it was, just said it's not supported yet
[04:16] <drif> is there some cpu benchmark util such superpi?
[04:18] <stdin> drif: I know of one called "stress"
[04:19] <Zombie> nosrednaekim: Had no effect on anything.,
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: what didn't?
[04:19] <Zombie> Editing Xorg.conf
[04:20] <Zombie> I restarted the X Server and it ignored the changes I made.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: hmmm.
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: di you add modelines or something?
[04:21] <Zombie> Yse,
[04:21] <drif> stdin: does it just stress-test or give some result to compare to?
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> Zombie: no clue what the problem is... did you ask on #xorg?
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> !resolution | Zombie
[04:22] <ubotu> Zombie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:23] <Zombie> Internal Server Error
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> huh?
[04:23] <stdin> drif: think it just stress tests, not sure
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> drif: geekbench
[04:26] <Nerdo> Hello
[04:26] <drif> nosrednaekim: on repositories?
[04:26] <stdin> drif: take a  look at this thread, it has a couple http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133348
[04:27] <drif> stdin: thanks
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> drif: not sure
[04:28] <Alloosh> hi all, I use quanta plus for web development, do you suggest any others?
[04:28] <stdin> !html
[04:28] <drif> stdin: great, superpi is for linux also
[04:28] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[04:28] <DexterF> !lvm
[04:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Alloosh: nvu
[04:28] <drif> stdin: that way I can do better comparison
[04:28] <DexterF> bugger
[04:29] <runlevelten> Alloosh: I use bluefish and emacs too. Also, kate is superb at smartly folding and highlighting pages that use multiple languages, and will edit them in place over ssh, ftp whatever much more nicely than bluefish.
[04:29] <DexterF> i want to move feisty to an lvm - pointers? lvm setup all fine, but how do I make it boot?
[04:30] <Alloosh> runlevelten: my web development environment contains 23 languages, and I store language in DB, just wanted to know what you guys find comfortable to work with, I work with php, so I will need many many files opened at once.
[04:31] <runlevelten> I meant different language syntaxes. ie kate understands how to highlight and fold a page of xhtml, javascript and php properly.
[04:32] <runlevelten> for php, bluefish and kate should do nicely. :)
[04:32] <runlevelten> also, keep quanta for the fast css editing.
[04:33] <Alloosh> installing bluefish now, what is the command to get kate I tried sudo apt-get install kate, but didnt work
[04:33] <runlevelten> I would assume you already have it, seeing as you're running kde
[04:34] <Alloosh> yes Iam running KDE and Gnome and also Xsfe, but its not there
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> Alloosh: try running it from the comman line
[04:34] <runlevelten> make sure you switch on the intellisense-type thing and tabs through plugins.
[04:34] <runlevelten> Alloosh: most useful apps are removed from menus by default in ubuntu. Don't ask me why.
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> "kate"
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> and the package name is kate
[04:35] <runlevelten> try alt f2 kate
[04:36] <Alloosh> ok, I think i got it, but I dont see code highlights.
[04:36] <runlevelten> Kate starts out as a plain editor. All plugins (just switch 'em on :) )
[04:37] <stoned> stoned> i generated the public rsa keys, copied it to authorized keys on the server, so far so good
[04:38] <stoned> 10:31 <          stoned> I generated the keys on server, and copied them to authorized_keys2 on the client, but i can't do passworless login from server to client
[04:38] <stoned> it still asks for password
[04:38] <stoned> please advise
[04:38] <Alloosh> yes I see that
[04:38] <stoned> i got passwordless logins from client to server, however, I did the same method, but I can't get passwordless login from server to client
[04:39] <stoned> sorry for the paste but i didn't want to type out the problem again ;)
[04:39] <stoned> and kubuntu didn't install ssh server by default also, i had to manually install it
[04:40] <Alloosh> how to install NVU
[04:40] <stoned> Alloosh: I use bluefish
[04:40] <stoned> :)
[04:41] <Alloosh> I have it also, but trust me, doing what iam doing I need more than 2 programs at once
[04:41] <stoned> stdin: my good man, you must know, if you can advise me that would be great.  I don't konw where to start troubleshooting
[04:41] <Zombie> This isnm't working.
[04:42] <stdin> stoned: huh? know what?
[04:43] <stdin> stoned: ssh?
[04:44] <stoned> yessir
[04:44] <stoned> nevermind
[04:44] <stdin> stoned: how did you copy the key?
[04:44] <stoned> i figured it out
[04:44] <stdin> ok :P
[04:44] <stoned> I accidentally forgot to put /.ssh/
[04:44] <stoned> it got copied to /home/stoned
[04:44] <stoned> instead of /home/stoned/.ssh
[04:44] <stoned> haha
[04:44] <Zombie> I restarted the X Server and it still ignored the changes I made.
[04:45] <stdin> stoned: I use ssh-copy-id :) nice and easy
[04:51] <trakinas> hey guys
[04:51] <trakinas> has anyone ever installed and configured SDLMame + Wah!Cade
[04:51] <trakinas> ?
[04:52] <Cyynic> morning
[04:52] <kilomang> how can i change permissions of mounted hard drives?
[04:52] <kilomang> "Others" cant view it
[04:52] <stoned> stdin: i'll read about it
[04:52] <kilomang> i try chmodding it 755, but it doesnt stay.
[04:53] <stoned> 755 is evil
[04:53] <stoned> why would you ever do 755
[04:53] <kilomang> dunno, someone here told me to
[04:53] <kilomang> point is, it doesnt stay
[04:53] <stoned> they might as well have said 777
[04:53] <stoned> lol ok let me see
[04:53] <stdin> permissions for mount are set in fstab
[04:54] <stoned> try -o rw,umask=blahblahblah
[04:54] <stoned> etc. etc
[04:54] <kilomang> wheres fstab again?
[04:54] <stoned> or in fstab, right after partition type, you have options
[04:54] <stoned>  it is in /etc/fstab
[04:54] <kilomang> media/sda3     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[04:55] <kilomang> whats 007?
[04:55] <kilomang> other than james bond
[04:55] <maverick> does anybosy know how to get LAN hosts list from terminal??
[04:55] <maverick> anybody*
[04:56] <stoned> other than a host scan on subnet, no
[04:56] <stoned> i don't anyway
[04:56] <kilomang> what umask do i need? :/
[04:56] <stdin> kilomang: "007" would translate to "770"
[04:56] <kilomang> 755 would be readable to "others" ?
[04:56] <maverick> stoned: tell me how to host scan on subnet
[04:57] <stoned> maverick: any security auditing tool
[04:57] <vgcat> halo
[04:57] <tobias> hi vgcat
[04:57] <maverick> stoned: you mean Dsniff , etterca ??
[04:57] <maverick> ettercap*
[04:57] <trakinas> !alsa VIA AC97 Audio Controller
[04:57] <stoned> well not those per se
[04:57] <vgcat> WHAT'Z UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!
[04:57] <maverick> stoned: i thought there's something like the net command in windows
[04:57] <vgcat> :))
[04:57] <stoned> maverick: im not sure
[04:57] <kilomang> can i just remove the umask?
[04:57] <stoned> try umask=000
[04:58] <kilomang> how do i restart fstab
[04:58] <kilomang> init.d/fstab reload?
[04:58] <kilomang> o_O
[04:58] <stoned> sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[04:58] <stoned> for auto dev
[04:58] <vgcat> hey, do you know ppl ho to instal a ati radeon 9200 se on ubuntu 7.04?
[04:58] <stoned> !ati
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <kilomang> umount: /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs: device is busy
[04:58] <stoned> vgcat: there ya go
[04:58] <kilomang> umount: /dev: device is busy
[04:58] <kilomang> is that bad?
[04:59] <stoned> no
[04:59] <stoned> its ok
[04:59] <vgcat> ubotu thx;)
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <stoned> i like to append ,auto in my fstab on my devices i use
[04:59] <vgcat> ubotu your a bot?
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <stoned> !bot
[04:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:59] <kilomang> hah
[04:59] <tobias> vgcat: yes he is
[04:59] <kilomang> now it stuck
[04:59] <kilomang> lets see if it stays
[04:59] <vgcat> :))
[05:00] <runlevelten> whose a bot?
[05:00] <runlevelten> my a bot?
[05:00] <vgcat> bot
[05:00] <vgcat> !bot
[05:00] <vgcat> BOU
[05:00] <vgcat> lol
[05:00] <tobias> he doesnt like you obviously :s
[05:00] <tobias> ^_
[05:00] <stoned> I always wanted to grow up and be a spambot
[05:00] <vgcat> lol
[05:00] <kilomang> what th hell
[05:00] <kilomang> the whole contents of my sda3 doesnt appear anymore
[05:01] <vgcat> LALALALA
[05:02] <vgcat> hey, do you know ppl ho to instal a ati radeon 9200 se on ubuntu 7.04?
[05:02] <tobias> vgcat: you already got the answer?
[05:02] <stoned> vgcat: and you alrady thanked the bot
[05:02] <tobias> !
[05:02] <vgcat> the bot is down, i repeat the bot is down
[05:02] <stoned> so you can't deny that you saw the answer
[05:02] <tobias> ...
[05:02] <tobias> the bot isnt down
[05:02] <kilomang> does chmod -R delete everything?
[05:03] <tobias> and the URL he posted is still working
[05:03] <vgcat> UAAAAAAAAAAAA
[05:03] <tobias> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:03] <vgcat> this tip is gay
[05:03] <llutz> don't feed the troll, kick him
[05:03] <tobias> !language
[05:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:03] <vgcat> i dont uderstand a shet from this
[05:03] <setkeh> the people in #fedora are idiots
[05:03] <vgcat> YEA
[05:03] <vgcat> :))
[05:03] <vgcat> :)))))
[05:04] <vgcat> setkeh is a bot too?:)))))0
[05:04] <tobias> vgcat: get your driver-installer on amd.ati.com
[05:04] <tobias> and install it
[05:04] <tobias> thats the whole thing ~
[05:04] <vgcat> tobias you think im a newb/
[05:04] <vgcat> ?
[05:04] <setkeh> they try to tell me stuff i already know and take me for an idiot because i am new to linux
[05:04] <setkeh> i know what im doing whn it comes to downloading
[05:04] <vgcat> =))))))))) GOOD BOY SETKEH :)))))))))))))00
[05:05] <tobias> someone feels like using his op-powers?
[05:05] <setkeh> O_o lol @ cg
[05:05] <kilomang> stoned, somethings wrong here
[05:05] <setkeh> vgcat: *
[05:05] <kilomang> stoned,  now i cant see anything inside my mounted drives
[05:05] <stoned> that sucks
[05:05] <vgcat> OLEAO
[05:05] <vgcat> WOHOOOOO
[05:05] <kilomang> maybe i need to reboot or something..
[05:05] <japaya> how do you install the mp3 support for amarok when the auto update keeps crashing? :)
[05:05] <stoned> kilomang: no
[05:06] <vgcat> :))
[05:06] <stoned> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:06] <tobias> kilomang: try putting back your drive in the hard-case and connect it to your pc. You really shouldnt open your hd :o
[05:06] <vgcat> WOW THIS CHEAT IS FUN!
[05:06] <setkeh> LOL
[05:06] <vgcat> ubotu
[05:06] <vgcat> what'z up bot
[05:06] <kilomang> ill try a reboot anyways
[05:06] <kilomang> just to see if my mounted stuff isnt deleted
[05:06] <vgcat> =)))))))))))000
[05:06] <vgcat> IM MAD:)))0
[05:06] <Cyynic> vgcat: you may also want to try out Envy
[05:07] <vgcat> what'z that?
[05:07] <vgcat> Cyynic
[05:07] <vgcat> WTF IS ENVY?
[05:08] <vgcat> CYYNIC YOUR A BOT?
[05:08] <Cyynic> vgcat: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:08] <Cyynic> vgcat: wow, finding the link and helping you out is leaving me so fulfilled
[05:08] <vgcat> Hey CYYNIC
[05:08] <vgcat> Your bot memory is overloaded
[05:09] <vgcat> I have a ATI Grafic board
[05:09] <vgcat> Lol
[05:09] <Cyynic> vgcat: look at the damn thing, it installs ATI too
[05:09] <vgcat> And you give me nVidia tips
[05:09] <vgcat> :))
[05:09] <runlevelten> vgcat: Do you have any problem that you want help with, or not?
[05:09] <vgcat> k thx ppl
[05:09] <Cyynic> vgcat: and grow up a biyt
[05:10] <vgcat> but you can help me whit this damn thing?
[05:10] <vgcat> cyynib
[05:10] <vgcat> cyynic
[05:10] <tobias> vgcat: the easiest way (imo) is the way I discribed you
[05:10] <vgcat> k
[05:10] <tobias> amd.ati.com -> download your driver -> install it
[05:10] <tobias> edit your xorg.conf -> done
[05:10] <vgcat> OMG TOBIAS
[05:10] <runlevelten> There's a much easier way than that.
[05:10] <vgcat> JUST SHUT UP
[05:10] <llutz> tobias: don't feed the troll
[05:11] <Cyynic> vgcat: i've only used it once, but it was completely painless, just download it, install it and run it. it configured everything for me without input
[05:11] <vgcat> OMFG THE ORIGINAL DRIVER DOESENT WORK
[05:11] <hydrogen> capitals are cool.
[05:11] <runlevelten> vgcat: please calm down.
[05:11] <vgcat> pfff...newbs
[05:11] <tobias> llutz: let me have a guess who the troll is
[05:11] <hydrogen> you should make sure you hit the capslock key any time you need to say something important
[05:11] <Cyynic> Vgcat: and i used it because the officiall drive didn't work. try it out
[05:11] <vgcat> LoL
[05:12] <vgcat> Thx cyynic i apreciate your work your the most inteligent human beign on this irc chanel that can understand me ;)
[05:12] <vgcat> :)
[05:12] <runlevelten> vgcat: Do you have a GUI running?
[05:12] <Cyynic> vgcat: that doesn't mean you're not being a jerk. but i hope that it helped
[05:12] <hydrogen> the most intelligent person that can understand mindless drivel..
[05:13] <frojnd> I am burning an DVDdata project with k3b and it writes successfully, but than it automatically start to write cd, and than it found error while reading some sector. What does this error exactly mean? that DVD is usless ??
[05:13] <vgcat> ...
[05:13] <vgcat> ...
[05:13] <vgcat> ...
[05:13] <vgcat> ...
[05:13] <vgcat> ...
[05:13] <vgcat> ...
[05:13] <vgcat> No comment
[05:13] <runlevelten> !ops | vgcat
[05:13] <ubotu> vgcat: Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[05:14] <Tm_T> I'm here
[05:14] <stdin> dito
[05:14] <vgcat> ?
[05:14] <vgcat> ???
[05:14] <RytmenPinnen> compiz-fusion default in 7.10?
[05:14] <stdin> please don't flood the channel
[05:14] <vgcat> T_T
[05:14] <llutz> Tm_T: thx a lot
[05:15] <Tm_T> no, it was the end
[05:15] <RytmenPinnen> haha
[05:15] <runlevelten> thanks.
[05:15] <runlevelten> heh
[05:15] <tobias> thanks Tm_T
[05:15] <aaron> how do i add things to my system menu in kdE?
[05:15] <Cyynic> thanks :)
[05:16] <Cyynic> and now my noob question... should i put it all in caps and gripe about all of you being bots? :)
[05:16] <vgcat> K i think that whit envy the driver will work fine
[05:18] <kilomang> any fstab experts here
[05:18] <kilomang> when i change my fstab to 000, i cant view stuff.
[05:18] <Cyynic> can someone point me towards info for installing compiz/beryl/compiz fusion i'm kinda lost as to which is most current and which is for KDE?
[05:19] <runlevelten>  /ignore vgcat
[05:19] <vgcat> ???
[05:19] <trakinas> anyone has used SDLMame here?
[05:19] <vgcat> what i did say now?
[05:19] <aaron> what's wrong with envy? it works.
[05:20] <vgcat> dunno
[05:20] <Tm_T> !envy
[05:20] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[05:20] <Cyynic> i liked envy fine
[05:20] <vgcat> im downloading the original driver
[05:20] <stdin> !envy
[05:20] <aaron> Envy works for my ati and nvidia cards. never had an issue.
[05:20] <vgcat> cyynic
[05:20] <vgcat> i instaled envy
[05:20] <vgcat> but now
[05:20] <vgcat> what to do?
[05:20] <runlevelten> restricted-manager is good because it's quick.
[05:21] <stdin>  envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly
[05:21] <vgcat> this script may break your machine very badly
[05:21] <vgcat> this script may break your machine very badly
[05:21] <vgcat> this script may break your machine very badly
[05:21] <vgcat> OMG
[05:21] <aaron> vgcat: relax man.
[05:21] <Cyynic> vgcat: just run it and choose the driver
[05:21] <kilomang> take a gamble!!!!!1
[05:21] <vgcat> but... it can distoy my OS or the PC?
[05:22] <Cyynic> vgcat: or don't run it, i backed up my system first and had no problems
[05:22] <vgcat> I run it at all costs
[05:22] <vgcat> i want to play 3d games
[05:22] <aaron> vgcat: no. someone who is very jealous of the script wrote that info for the bot. it works just fine. just back up your xorg.conf and know how to restore it if something goes funky
[05:22] <vgcat> and direct x games
[05:22] <Cyynic> any time i mess with my graphics settings i back up my base install
[05:22] <kilomang> just install cedega than
[05:22] <aaron> THEN
[05:23] <aaron> install cedega THEN
[05:23] <kilomang> i was going to say
[05:23] <vgcat> i need the drivers for the accelerator noob
[05:23] <kilomang> other than suffer like you are
[05:23] <kilomang> geeze people just dont let you finish (rolleyes)
[05:23] <runlevelten> trakinas: wot about sdlmame?
[05:23] <vgcat> so many newb on this IRC Changels that want to "help"
[05:24] <kilomang> well im out it seems like the grammar nazis have invaded
[05:24] <Cyynic> vgcat: you're welcome
[05:24] <stdin> !noob | vgcat
[05:24] <ubotu> vgcat: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:24] <vgcat> ...
[05:24] <kilomang> whats jfgi?
[05:24] <aaron> !jfgi
[05:24] <kilomang> just fucking give up?
[05:24] <vgcat> !noob | stdin
[05:24] <ubotu> stdin: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:24] <vgcat> :P
[05:24] <knowledge25> hello e
[05:24] <knowledge25> verybod
[05:24] <trakinas> runlevelten, joypad.
[05:25] <knowledge25> hello
[05:25] <vgcat> haloa
[05:25] <runlevelten> ooh, never used one with my pc, ever.
[05:25] <trakinas> sound i know it wont work properly, even in sf ii
[05:25] <trakinas> rtfm = read the FRIENDLY manual?? :o
[05:25] <vgcat> :))
[05:25] <vgcat> read the fucking manual
[05:26] <trakinas> vgcat, i know.
[05:26] <vgcat> = rftm
[05:26] <stdin> !language > vgcat
[05:26] <trakinas> it was a joke.
[05:26] <vgcat> this stdin is pissing me off @_@
[05:27] <trakinas> my pad works on glxmame, but it uses the old xmame... and i need SDLMame to run newly roms... ^^
[05:27] <knowledge25> can somebody help me install looking glass.
[05:27] <stasio> zxc
[05:31] <tobias> thanks st ._.
[05:32] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[05:32] <tobias> hi contrast
[05:33] <contrast83> Does anyone here have any experience getting a 1080i picture from an nVidia card on an HDTV?
[05:34] <olifre_> Hello... anyone with VDR-experience or knowing a good VDR channel?
[05:34] <Cyynic> so quiet
[05:35] <olifre_> /ME yawns
[05:35] <alain> bjr
[05:37] <alain> j'ai besoin d'aide pour ma webcam philips pcvc840k
[05:37] <ronin_> !compizfusion
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <stdin> !fr
[05:37] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:37] <Ink-Jet> Is KNetworkManager installed as default in KDE 3.5.7?
[05:38] <evri2> guys the mp3 tags that i edited with my amarok cannot be seen in Sony Ericsson K750i.Some of the characters missing.Do you have any idea?
[05:38] <stdin> Ink-Jet: it's in feisty
[05:38] <Ink-Jet> Yeah, I was just wondering if it was installed in Slackware as well.
[05:38] <olifre_> !vdr
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vdr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <stdin> Ink-Jet: you'd have to ask them
[05:39] <Ink-Jet> Okey dokey.
[05:39] <runlevelten> evri2: yeah, the sony ericsson phones have a broken id3 implementation.
[05:39] <runlevelten> well several broken implementations
[05:39] <olifre_> !vdR
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vdr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <ronin_> Bloody hell.... anyone know about advanced CD ripping and the like?  Have a problem I just can't find the answer to and its bugging me
[05:40] <olifre_> Audio CD ripping?
[05:40] <ronin_> Yes
[05:40] <evri2> runlevelten: i can edit them in windows and no problem.
[05:40] <olifre_> Well, go ahead ;-)
[05:41] <ronin_> All right.  If I use the (much hated) iTunes on my windows box to try and rip this rather rare CD I have, it correctly comes up with all the tagging information. Artist, title etc..
[05:41] <Georgewall> hey
[05:41] <runlevelten> evri2: that's nice.
[05:41] <olifre_> Yes.... i think it checks cddb
[05:41] <ronin_> However, using K3B or Kaudiocreator...nothing
[05:41] <olifre_> well, they don't search cddb or any free database like freedb
[05:42] <ronin_> Kaudiocreator apparently searches freedb
[05:42] <zipper> ronin_, i have never used either myself, but have you set it up to go get tagging information online? I know there are several of such kind of online services
[05:42] <Gwall> i got a problem about permission
[05:42] <zipper> ronin_, nevermind then
[05:42] <Gwall> KDE doesnt let you login as root and my account has no sudo permissions
[05:42] <Gwall> so i cant update
[05:42] <Gwall> or anything
[05:42] <ronin_> and I think K3b does too.  Is there a way I can ask it to try the original cddb instead?
[05:43] <stdin> Gwall: what account has sudo permissions?
[05:43] <olifre_> i think cddb is commercial and needs license-fees, doesn't it?
[05:43] <Gwall> none :x
[05:43] <Gwall> stdin:
[05:43] <stdin> Gwall: why now?
[05:43] <stdin> not?
[05:43] <Gwall> dunno
[05:43] <Gwall> can i change my accounts permissions
[05:43] <Gwall> using su
[05:43] <Gwall> i cant get to root in terminal
[05:43] <Gwall> anyway i can change permissions ?
[05:43] <olifre_> Gwall: you could assign a passwort to root, he has none
[05:43] <stdin> Gwall: the 1st account setup has sudo access
[05:43] <Gwall> ye
[05:43] <Gwall> i removed by mistake
[05:44] <olifre_> Gwall: try sudo su
[05:44] <Gwall> i did
[05:44] <Gwall> it works
[05:44] <Gwall> but...
[05:44] <Gwall> on my account
[05:44] <Gwall> i cant do admin things etc
[05:44] <Gwall> like synaptic update
[05:44] <llutz> !enter | Gwall
[05:44] <ubotu> Gwall: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:44] <olifre_> then use usermod to change your account rights
[05:44] <stdin> Gwall: you need to add your user to the "admin" group
[05:44] <Gwall> ok what should i put
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> Gwall: so you want sudo on your account? add yourself to the sudo and admin groups
[05:45] <Gwall> yes
[05:45] <Gwall> please mate
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> Gwall: system settings-> user accounts
[05:45] <ronin_> Hmm... okay I just manually searched free DB and gracenote and neither have album info.  I wish I knew why iTunes does >>;
[05:45] <Gwall> wont work
[05:45] <Gwall> i need to do in terminal nosrednaekim
[05:45] <olifre_> ronin_: amarok checks freedb and can be set up to check others
[05:46] <llutz> Gwall: "sudo su"  then "adduser <your-username> admin"
[05:46] <stdin> nosrednaekim: Gwall, as root: usermod <YourUserName> -G admin
[05:46] <Gwall> thanks mate
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> Gwall: ok.. just a sec..
[05:46] <Gwall> root@ubuntu:/home/Georgewall# usermod george -G admin
[05:46] <Gwall> usermod: user admin does not exist
[05:47] <llutz> Gwall: addgroup George admin
[05:47] <Gwall> thank you mate
[05:47] <nosrednaekim> stdin: ah... I was looking for the file that has that stuff
[05:47] <Gwall> root@ubuntu:/home/Georgewall# addgroup george admin
[05:47] <Gwall> Adding user `george' to group `admin' ...
[05:47] <Gwall> Done.
[05:48] <stdin> nosrednaekim: /etc/group :)
[05:48] <Gwall> that done now ? :)
[05:48] <llutz> Gwall: you'll need to re-login
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> couldn't find it...
[05:48] <Cyynic> so if i've just installed compiz how do i configure it in kubuntu? i see instructions all over for gnome, but not kde
[05:48] <Gwall> hehe thanks a lot
[05:48] <Gwall> i really appreciate it
[05:48] <stdin> Gwall: you'll have to logout and back in for it to take effect, then it should work
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> stdin: its an empty file...
[05:48] <Gwall> thank you
[05:48] <Gwall> cya :W
[05:48] <ronin_> olifre_ : I'm playing the CD from the drive right now and all it says is "track 6" no other info or anything
[05:48] <aguitel> i installed Beryl and the borders are hiden any idea?
[05:48] <stdin> nosrednaekim: /etc/group is empty??
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> stdin: NM... wasn't doing it as root
[05:49] <ronin_> THis is a really rare CD so its probably not in any databases. I can understand that...  but what I don't understand is if iTunes is magically getting it off the disc itself somehow
[05:49] <stdin> aguitel: did you install emerald or aquamarine ?
[05:49] <aguitel> esmerald
[05:49] <stdin> aguitel: what about emerald-themes?
[05:49] <olifre_> ronin_: trying with amarok?
[05:50] <aguitel> stdin ,wait
[05:50] <stdin> aguitel: the package emerald-themes
[05:50] <ronin_> olifre_ trying what?
[05:50] <ronin_> Its playing right now in Amarok
[05:50] <olifre_> ronin_: trying to play the cd... okay, that's what i meant... will try myself
[05:50] <aguitel> stdin yes
[05:51] <stdin> aguitel: what graphics?
[05:51] <ronin_> For reference this is a music CD compilation they sell at Defcon, the big hacker convention.
[05:52] <olifre_> ronin_: I wonder why it does not work.... I'm also using a disc recognized by cddb
[05:52] <aguitel> stind ,in all
[05:53] <sjck> Hey, if I rename a file will that change the md5-key?
[05:54] <ronin_> Hmm... will it tag nicely using K3b too? Or Kaudiocreator?
[05:54] <ronin_> I wonder if I'm missing some sort of integral package somewhere. Is there something that allows all these media players to get data directly from the disc?
[05:54] <stdin> sjck: no
[05:55] <stdin> !find cddb
[05:55] <ubotu> Found: libkcddb1, python-cddb, cddb, cddb.bundle, libcddb-get-perl (and 2 others)
[05:56] <trekdanne> cddb doesn't get the data from the disc AFAIK
[05:56] <sjck> stdin thanks
[05:56] <olifre_> there is a libkcddb1 for all kde programs, just found it
[05:57] <olifre_> trekdanne: cddb checks the internet and sends the length of the tracks etc. to identify the disc
[05:58] <trekdanne> olifre_: oh right
[05:58] <ronin_> Hmmm I've got the lib for KDE
[05:58] <olifre_> I also have it, and it does not work, somehow...?
[05:59] <ajednakdziala> ronin_: r u from Poland?
[06:00] <ronin_> I'm from the USA.  ^^
[06:00] <ajednakdziala> ok sorry :P
[06:01] <olifre_> ronin_: k3b can do it ;-)
[06:01] <ronin_> THanks Olifre_ :  I'm pretty sure this CD may just not have an entry. I'll try something more conventional...
[06:02] <ronin_> No worries ajednakdziala
[06:04] <ubuntu_> Hey ppl, what's that program that install ati and nVidia drivers automatly, safe and easy?
[06:05] <ubuntu_> Please tell me i need it!
[06:05] <ronin_> Envy?  Though I think the gurus think its a bad idea
[06:06] <ubuntu_> Can you give me the link?
[06:06] <ronin_> Afraid I don't know it
[06:06] <ubuntu_> Ho can give me the Envy link please?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> Ho can give me the Envy link please?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> Hello?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> Hello?
[06:08] <ubuntu_> Ho can give me the Envy link please?
[06:08] <sjck> google.com
[06:09] <ubuntu_> yea...im searching for it buy it give's me only a stupid movie
[06:09] <Alethes> anybody know if there's a good way to determine all that files in /etc that I've changed from the installed defaults?  I want to back just these up.
[06:09] <ubuntu_> sjck your not funny anyway
[06:09] <Alethes> I'm trying to figure out how I'd compare the file to the one included in the package that containts the file, if that makes sense
[06:09] <waylandbill_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envy ;-)
[06:10] <ubuntu_> man are you kidding?
[06:10] <waylandbill_> of course.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> i want the envy program that install automatly ati and nVidia drivers
[06:10] <jpatrick> moin everyone
[06:10] <waylandbill_> Alethes: diff the files on the drive with the ones found on the liveCD.
[06:11] <waylandbill_> ubuntu_: just follow the wiki directions
[06:11] <waylandbill_> !nvidia
[06:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:11] <Alethes> waylandbill_: except that some may have been installed by packages later on heh
[06:11] <ubuntu_> envy thx
[06:11] <Alethes> somebody in #ubuntu just suggested checking last modified dates
[06:11] <ubuntu_> ubotu i want eny not that tips
[06:12] <Alethes> which I guess will kinda work
[06:12] <waylandbill_> Alethes: diff a directory listing as well to find added files.
[06:12] <Alethes> waylandbill_: yeah, good point
[06:12] <ubuntu_> Please can someone give me the envy download link? PLEASE!
[06:12] <ronin_> ubuntu_ : I can tell you're new to this. So here's a few pointers. Don't spam the chat. Also, try looking at your Synaptic or Adept. Searching the repositories may have what you're looking for
[06:12] <llutz> Alethes: you may take the md5sums files in /var/lib/dpkg/info and check against them
[06:12] <Georgewall> hey again
[06:12] <waylandbill_> !repeat
[06:12] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:12] <Alethes> yeah
[06:13] <Georgewall> llutz:
[06:13] <Alethes> hmm /etc is only 11M, so I could just back up the whole thing
[06:13] <Georgewall> u fixed the problem
[06:13] <ubuntu_> ronin_ i say go give me the link
[06:13] <llutz> Georgewall: np
[06:13] <Georgewall> btw i have a new problem now
[06:13] <ubuntu_> omf... ho can give me the envy link? please?
[06:13] <Georgewall> when i try open i file under wine i get this error
[06:13] <Georgewall> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:13] <Georgewall> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:14] <ubuntu_> Man please someone help me!
[06:14] <ubuntu_> :(
[06:14] <ubuntu_> i fell so ignored
[06:14] <ubuntu_> :(
[06:14] <ronin_> See, talking like that will make people feel you're being rude.   When you tell us to do stuff like that, which we will have to take the time to go do... just saying "give me the link" which I already said I didn't know off the top of my head... seems rude don't you think?
[06:14] <jpatrick> ubuntu_: sorry, but I have no idea what you want
[06:14] <llutz> ubuntu_: envy and automatix aren't recommended here, so you ARE ignored :) sry, scnr
[06:14] <Alethes> I have a feeling you're being ignored regarding envy because it's such a bad idea heh
[06:15] <ubuntu_> I want that LINK! The envy linK!
[06:15] <Alethes> let me introduce you to http://www.google.com/
[06:15] <ubuntu_> ...
[06:15] <ubuntu_> Yea alethes your very smart
[06:15] <Alethes> *nod*
[06:15] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know of a compatibility list for wireless cards? Trying to figure out if/how I can get the D-Link DWL-650 card on my girlfriend's laptop working
[06:16] <ubuntu_> ] K then... If u dont give me that link... Can someone help me whit a ATI Radeon 9200 se grafic card... To install the original drivers?
[06:17] <Dragnslcr> Quick Google search brought up a couple posts that mentioned needing ndiswrapper, just wondering if that's correct
[06:17] <llutz> Dragnslcr: acx111 chipset has an own driver, but maybe ndiswrapper helps too
[06:17] <ronin_> All right. If you /really/ want Envy despite all the people who know more than I do saying its a bad idea....
[06:17] <ubuntu_> ] K then... If u dont give me that link... Can someone help me whit a ATI Radeon 9200 se grafic card... To install the original drivers?
[06:17] <ubuntu_> Envy is a bad idel?
[06:17] <ubuntu_> Envy is a bad idea?
[06:18] <ronin_> That's what people have been saying. Envy and Automatix sometimes mess things up royally.
[06:18] <ubuntu_> and then what to do to install ATI RADEON 9200 SE driver?
[06:18] <ronin_> !Ati
[06:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:18] <ubuntu_> ..
[06:18] <ubuntu_> this doesent help me
[06:19] <ronin_> Yes it does. You just have to read
[06:19] <ronin_> Click on that link, then on the ATI link on that page
[06:19] <ronin_> It should give you step by step instructions
[06:19] <Dragnslcr> llutz- you think the card should be recognized automagically?
[06:20] <llutz> Dragnslcr:no, but try to load acx111 manually
[06:21] <llutz> Dragnslcr: ups, feisty seems not to have that driver... so try ndiswrapper
[06:21] <thundergirl> hi
[06:21] <thundergirl> anybody?
[06:21] <thundergirl> snybody spak english
[06:22] <ubuntu_> me
[06:22] <llutz> full moon today?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> dunno
[06:22] <nosrednaekim> hello
[06:22] <ubuntu_> haloa
[06:22] <jpatrick> thundergirl: the majority of us
[06:22] <olifre> Hello, me again...
[06:22] <thundergirl> ubunte?
[06:22] <ubuntu_> yea, what a surprise you again...
[06:22] <olifre> some programs like vdr and mythtv have wrong colours, any ideas?
[06:23] <thundergirl> jpatrick
[06:23] <thundergirl> ubuntu?
[06:23] <jpatrick> thundergirl: hmm?
[06:23] <Dragnslcr> llutz- alright, thanks
[06:23] <thundergirl> nto
[06:23] <thundergirl> onto
[06:23] <thundergirl> powerful
[06:23] <Dragnslcr> !ndiswrapper
[06:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:23] <thundergirl> nojojojo
[06:24] <ubuntu_> Weeeeee...hahahaha....nanananananana....pfffff....Silence....Weeeeeeee...hahaha....nananana,,,,pffff....nananan....Shutup!!!....................Weeeeeee...BOOM! Get Firefox
[06:24] <thundergirl> why?
[06:24] <nosrednaekim> all of us do.
[06:24] <ubuntu_> Welll....this is for wwindows users that are geys
[06:24] <jpatrick> some of us speak more languages tho...
[06:24] <thundergirl> jpatrick
[06:25] <ubuntu_> pffff....WEEE
[06:25] <thundergirl> much languages
[06:25] <ubuntu_> yayayaya
[06:25] <thundergirl> english
[06:25] <ubuntu_> chineze
[06:25] <olifre> german
[06:25] <thundergirl> franois
[06:25] <thundergirl> portugues
[06:25] <ubuntu_> espaniol
[06:25] <thundergirl> espanish
[06:25] <thundergirl> german
[06:25] <ubuntu_> ENGLISH
[06:25] <thundergirl> italian
[06:26] <ubuntu_> ENGLICI
[06:26] <thundergirl> russian
[06:26] <ubuntu_> ENGLICI
[06:26] <jpatrick> Is this getting anywhere?
[06:26] <thundergirl> stop ubuntu
[06:26] <ubuntu_> me?
[06:26] <llutz> trollday today
[06:26] <ubuntu_> stop YOU
[06:26] <thundergirl> i'm speaking with jpatrick
[06:26] <Ozoned> stdin: ping
[06:26] <thundergirl> boor
[06:26] <ubuntu_> ...
[06:26] <ubuntu_> trolly girl
[06:26] <thundergirl> jpatrick
[06:27] <jpatrick> yeah?
[06:27] <ronin_> ubuntu_ : Stop with that please.
[06:27] <thundergirl> to be continued
[06:27] <thundergirl> i'm speak more languages
[06:27] <jpatrick> ronin_: I'm not sure which to throw out
[06:27] <llutz> jpatrick: all of them :)
[06:28] <thundergirl> do you spak portugese jpatrick
[06:28] <thundergirl> ?
[06:28] <stdin> Ozoned: ?
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> BOTH!
[06:28] <robotgeek> wow. someone needs a kick
[06:28] <ronin_> Okay fun fact for everyone: See how jpatrick has that little O next to his name (in Konversation). That means you don't want to piss him off ^^
[06:28] <nosrednaekim> >:)
[06:29] <Ozoned> stdin: Thanks for the help earlier, got things running smooth now :-)
[06:29] <jpatrick> I'm sorry, I'm British
[06:29] <stdin> Ozoned: sure, no problem
[06:29] <nosrednaekim> thundegirl just discovered that
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> is that something to be appologetic about?
[06:30] <voln> hello, my I ask question?
[06:30] <thundergirl> jpatrick
[06:30] <jpatrick> voln: fire away
[06:30] <voln> i have a wifi connection, what is the best apps for kubuntu intead of knetworkmanager?
[06:30] <thundergirl> aswer the my question
[06:31] <robotgeek> !pt | thundergirl
[06:31] <ubotu> thundergirl: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:31] <nosrednaekim> voln: if you don't have encryption, wlassistant
[06:31] <voln> what this?
[06:31] <robotgeek> if you done have encryption, networkmanager should work as well :)
[06:31] <llutz> networkmanager still cannot handle static-ips?
[06:31] <thundergirl> #ubuntu-pt
[06:32] <robotgeek> llutz: sadly, yes
[06:32] <ronin_> Hmmm... okay... is there any way to get a linux media application to use Gracenote (the original CDDB) instead of freedb?
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> llutz: yeah it can.. you just have to manually set it up
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> ronin_: yeah, amarok has a setting for CDDB server
[06:33] <voln> i wanna see level of my wifi, wifi radar etc:))
[06:33] <llutz> nosrednaekim: really? time to read docs again
[06:33] <robotgeek> thundergirl: sorry, but there is no one who speaks portugese here. you may try #ubuntu-pt to see if someone can help you.
[06:34] <ronin_> All right, wouldn't anyone know the proper cddb address? It doesn't seem to be listed on their website
[06:37] <weyer> hi
[06:37] <weyer> im trying to get sound working
[06:38] <weyer> first time ubuntu user
[06:38] <savetheWorld> ronin_: Isnt the original a pay per use service now?
[06:38] <jpatrick> !sound
[06:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:38] <weyer> thnks
[06:38] <nosrednaekim> weyer: sound chipset?
[06:43] <ronin_> savetheworld: You know, I'm not sure. Their website even says that xmcd is "powered by gracenote" and thats free
[06:45] <savetheWorld> ronin_: me neither. :-)  I do know that the original cddb did "something" that crapped all over the volunteers who helped them create their database at one point. (iirc)
[06:50] <illriginal> I'm following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup  but I'm gettin stuck when I try to connect.. can someone PLEASE help me.
[06:50] <ronin_> I just read some wikihistory and apparently it was originally developed as open source, but then got taken over for profit and licensed out
[06:51] <ronin_> Apparently it was originally started by the xmcd guy
[06:51] <ronin_> I guess thats why we have freedb now... since the company crapped on the open source community
[06:51] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my bluetooth issue, please.
[06:52] <ronin_> illriginal: I'm afraid I don't know much about bluetooth
[06:52] <ronin_> At least, I haven't done so myself. Hmm... maybe I'll give it a go.... this lappy has a bluetooth module
[06:53] <llutz> illriginal: what do you try, where do you get stuck?
[06:54] <illriginal> well when i try to connect with it
[06:55] <illriginal> hold on.
[06:55] <illriginal> llutz: illriginal@illriginal:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:1B:52:9A:32:F7Can't get device information: Success
[06:55] <illriginal> i don't understand what it's tellin me.
[06:56] <illriginal> is it a successful connection? or did it successfully fail to connect because it couldn't get the device information?
[06:56] <robotgeek> illriginal: is this bluetooth?
[06:56] <illriginal> yes
[06:57] <illriginal> i have a motorola SLVR that my bluetooth adapter recognizes per console.
[06:57] <illriginal> then i try to connect, but i get that message ^
[06:58] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ hcitool scanScanning ...
[06:58] <illriginal>         00:1B:52:9A:32:F7       Motorola Phone
[06:58] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:1B:52:9A:32:F7
[06:58] <illriginal> Password:
[06:58] <illriginal> Can't get device information: Success
[06:59] <robotgeek> i would not post the mac address, illriginal. its unique and identifiable :)
[06:59] <illriginal> ok...
[06:59] <illriginal> so what do i do now?... what does the message mean?
[06:59] <robotgeek> i am not sure, i have not seen that one before
[07:00] <robotgeek> i usually use the kde bluetooth daemon
[07:00] <illriginal> =\
[07:00] <robotgeek> and my phone just pops up
[07:00] <illriginal> does it recognize any bluetooth device?
[07:00] <illriginal> which one do you use?
[07:00] <illriginal> maybe that'll work
[07:00] <robotgeek> it does my sony ericsson. i havent checked my blackberry out
[07:01] <llutz> illriginal: what does "hidd --show" say?
[07:01] <illriginal> uh
[07:01] <illriginal> llutz nothing.
[07:02] <llutz> so connection wasn't successful
[07:02] <illriginal> ok... so... should i use that kde program that robotgeek has?
[07:02] <llutz> illriginal: sry no idea about hidd, i never used that, only rfcomm and kbluetoothd
[07:03] <illriginal> kbluetoothd
[07:03] <llutz> illriginal: i only use bt for dial-up-networking
[07:03] <illriginal> ok gonna look it up
[07:04] <illriginal> kbluetoothd doesn't exist in synaptic
[07:05] <illriginal> robotgeek, which one do you use?
[07:05] <llutz> illriginal: package is called kdebluetooth
[07:05] <robotgeek> illriginal: i use the ^^, it should be installed by default, i think
[07:06] <illriginal> i use ubuntu lol not kubuntu
[07:06] <illriginal> ^^
[07:07] <illriginal> uhm... robotgeek or llutz how do i open kdebluetooth?
[07:07] <illriginal> not in my start menu
[07:07] <robotgeek> illriginal: type alt + f2, kbluetoothd
[07:08] <llutz> illriginal: i don't think it's installed on ubuntu by default
[07:08] <illriginal> woot
[07:08] <illriginal> bluetooth adapter found
[07:09] <robotgeek> illriginal: oh, you are using ubuntu. duh
[07:09] <illriginal> yeah lol
[07:09] <illriginal> ok now that it found my adapter
[07:09] <illriginal> what do i do next?
[07:09] <illriginal> cuz there's no program opened at least GUI wise <,<
[07:10] <illriginal> robotgeek? llutz? :x
[07:11] <robotgeek> illriginal: what you need to do?
[07:11] <illriginal> llutz, robotgeek what do i do to get my phone to be recognized and be able to transfer files back n forth
[07:12] <illriginal> ^^
[07:12] <robotgeek> illriginal: you could usually say browse
[07:12] <illriginal> what do you mean? I don't understand.
[07:12] <illriginal> after i typed that command in, all that happened was i got a pop up window that says blue tooth adapter found, then the window went away.
[07:13] <illriginal> there we go
[07:13] <illriginal> now i got the program icon
[07:14] <illriginal> robotgeek, now that i have the program open
[07:15] <illriginal> do i go to configure?
[07:15] <robotgeek> illriginal: i am sorry, but i have to go now.
[07:15] <patrickd> can anyone tell me how to fix the fonts in the login screen, I've just installed the ATI graphics driver and when I restarted X the fonts are tiny. google isn't point to anything useful as far as I can tell.
[07:15] <illriginal> k thanks
[07:15] <illriginal> llutz can you help me with the rest of this?
[07:16] <llutz> illriginal: you opened kbluetoothd and see it's GUI?
[07:16] <illriginal> yeah i right click the little icon
[07:16] <illriginal> and it gives me options
[07:16] <llutz> illriginal: you should see you bt-adapter and your phone aswell
[07:17] <illriginal> no i can only right click and choose options then it opens the option
[07:18] <llutz> illriginal: that must be something different than kubuntus kbluetoothd, sry no idea
[07:18] <illriginal> Open recent: configure, connection information
[07:18] <illriginal> ok then how do i open the kbluetoothd?
[07:19] <llutz> illriginal: you need kde installed for that
[07:19] <illriginal> but amarok is kde and it works fine with gnoem.
[07:19] <illriginal> gnome*
[07:19] <llutz> illriginal: so kdebase seems to be installed
[07:19] <llutz> illriginal: open a konsole and type "kbluetoothd", see what (hopefully) happens
[07:20] <illriginal> a little bluetooth icon opens, and that's it...
[07:20] <illriginal> on the taskbar.
[07:20] <llutz> click on it
[07:21] <illriginal> left click does nothing, right click gives me options.
[07:21] <illriginal> Open Recent, Configure, Connection Information
[07:21] <llutz> illriginal: usually leftclick should open the gui (looks like konqueror-window)
[07:22] <MasterLexx> will there be an option for selecting the wlan key number in the next kubuntu version?
[07:22] <illriginal> do i click on "Paired Devices"?
[07:22] <DexterF> kann i have a webcam or tv grabber feed as my desktop background..?
[07:23] <DexterF> s/^/can (duh!)
[07:25] <illriginal> llutz i need to click paired devices?
[07:25] <llutz> illriginal: try
[07:26] <lucky_lucas> i, I'm looking for some good tuto to install the ati driver (open source) after fglrx
[07:26] <Ozoned> patrickd: what is the screen resolution set to?
[07:28] <patrickd> Ozoned: How would I find that before I've logged into the system? Once I'm logged in the fonts are fine
[07:29] <Ozoned> patrickd: So, after u log in, your font size is normal? only at login screen are they small?
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> lucky_lucas: its simple... change the "fglrx" in the xorg.conf to "ati"
[07:30] <patrickd> Ozoned: yes
[07:31] <lucky_lucas> nosrednaekim:  yes but I will not have the same performance as it was after the fresh install
[07:31] <lucky_lucas> in fact I get but as hell perf
[07:31] <nosrednaekim> hmm
[07:31] <illriginal> llutz.... paired devices does nothin..
[07:32] <illriginal> crap im gonna have to install windows
[07:32] <llutz> illriginal: because your paring failed
[07:32] <illriginal> all i did was open it
[07:32] <Ozoned> patrickd: try Settings>>Advanced>>login manager>>font
[07:32] <illriginal> there's really not much to pick other than ok and cancel
[07:33] <illriginal> hm.... so belkin bluetooth adapter doesn't work then.
[07:33] <lucky_lucas> nosrednaekim: I heard about reinstalling the mesagl lib but it doesn't change anything
[07:34] <evri2> guys when i have a tag problem with mp3 files in linux.Forexample in linux, i can see title as "We will rock you" but in my phone k750 it shows "We will".However if i transfer this file in windows with remane it first( i mean write tags in windows then transfer) there is no problem.
[07:34] <patrickd> Ozoned: According to that they are set at 10 for general and 22 for greeting. Which I would think should be fine, but they are displaying way way smaller than that.
[07:39] <steven3483> is there a way to retrieve vistas mbr without reinstalling vista?
[07:43] <illriginal> can someone please help me with my bluetooth issue, adapter is being recognized, and my phone is being recognized via mac address but i cannot connect...
[07:44] <illriginal> is there a bluetooth channel?
[07:45] <illriginal> can someone please help me with my bluetooth issue, adapter is being recognized, and my phone is being recognized via mac address but i cannot connect...
[07:46] <martijn> can someone with an linksys wrt54G(L) test whether UPnP works with KTorrent?
[07:49] <Ozoned> patrickd: if u go to kinfocentre>>X Server  What is the resolution & dpi of the default screen?
[07:50] <Ozoned> ^^ dimensions & resolution
[07:54] <Ozoned> patrickd : Read this, I think it may fix your problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto  Item 6
[07:54] <illriginal> can someone please help me with my bluetooth issue, adapter is being recognized, and my phone is being recognized via mac address but i cannot connect...
[08:02] <illriginal> can someone please help me with my bluetooth issue, adapter is being recognized, and my phone is being recognized via mac address but i cannot connect...
[08:03] <MasterLexx> hey
[08:03] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: what do you mean with you can't connect?
[08:04] <MasterLexx> ich habe da ein problem, dieses blde openoffice lsst mich manche dateien einfach nicht speichern, es kommt auch keine frage nach dem password, es geht einfach nur nicht, was soll ich denn da nur machen?
[08:05] <rbrunhuber> MasterLexx: Das ist ein englischer Support Channel.
[08:05] <MasterLexx> ohhh
[08:06] <tarek_> looking for Adobe Flash Player in the 64 Bit vesion
[08:06] <tarek_> version
[08:06] <tarek_> searched adobe and synaptic
[08:06] <rbrunhuber> MasterLexx: Probier es doch mal in #kubuntu-de
[08:07] <illriginal> rbrunhuber it wont let me connect my phoen to my pc via bluetooth
[08:07] <illriginal> yet it recognizes my phone
[08:07] <SubOne> There are seemingly hundreds of almost identical fonts preinstalled on my machine. It's almost impossble to find a font in Gimp since there are so many... Would I break any programs if I started unsinstalling a bunch of those fonts?
[08:08] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: what do you do to get your phone "recognized"?
[08:08] <Paulman> hi there
[08:08] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: do you get a pin popup?
[08:08] <illriginal>  hcitool scan
[08:09] <illriginal> i get a pop up that my bluetooth adapter is recognized that's it
[08:09] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: this just means it finds a bt device is found in the area
[08:09] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: what phone do you have?
[08:09] <illriginal> Motorola SLVR
[08:10] <illriginal> i have my bluetooth adapter via usb on my desktop and it's a belkin
[08:10] <illriginal> on my phone
[08:10] <illriginal> i click on discoverable mode
[08:11] <illriginal> then type  hcitool scan into console
[08:11] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: although there a many belkin adapters, they should be fine
[08:11] <Paulman> I have compiled the gutsy kernel (2.6.22) under Feisty (running 2.6.20), but now I'm having trouble to set up some propietary drivers, like ipw3945 (for wi-fi), can anybody help me? i know it's something with linux-restricted-modules, but i just cant understand how debian handles this
[08:12] <SubOne> There are seemingly hundreds of almost identical fonts preinstalled on my machine. It's almost impossble to find a font in Gimp since there are so many... Would I break any programs if I started unsinstalling a bunch of those fonts?
[08:12] <illriginal> right
[08:12] <illriginal> i looked in the ubuntu forum
[08:12] <illriginal> i purcashed the one they recommend
[08:12] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: can you try to ping your phone with sudo l2ping <btaddress>.
[08:12] <illriginal> sweet... let me try
[08:12] <illriginal> do i need to put the phone in certain mode?
[08:13] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: you have to substitute the <btaddress> by your bluetooth address you got from hcitool scan
[08:13] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: if it is discoverable it should be fine.
[08:13] <illriginal> ok
[08:13] <illriginal> brb
[08:15] <illriginal> wow
[08:15] <illriginal> it's pinging
[08:15] <illriginal> and pinging fast
[08:16] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: please always write my name in front of your answers so i get notified
[08:16] <illriginal> oh sorry rbrunhuber
[08:17] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: have you installed the kdebluetooth packages?
[08:17] <illriginal> i only installed kdebluetooth
[08:17] <illriginal> keep in mind i have ubuntu, but i also have amarok which runs fine.
[08:18] <illriginal> rbrunnerhuber ^
[08:18] <illriginal> rbrunhuber*** ^
[08:18] <rbrunhuber> so you are just sitting on a gnome desktop?
[08:18] <rbrunhuber> illriginal:
[08:19] <illriginal> yes rbrunhuber
[08:20] <illriginal> rbrunhuber there's no one on ubuntu channel that can help ><
[08:21] <h_> Hi all
[08:22] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: what is your target to connect your phone to the pc?
[08:22] <illriginal> to transfer files.
[08:22] <Paulman> hey, how can i reply to someone in xchat??
[08:22] <illriginal> rbrunhuber ^
[08:22] <Paulman> like you just did rbrunhuber
[08:22] <Paulman> (to illriginal)
[08:23] <illriginal> just type the person's name
[08:23] <illriginal> and it sends them a notification
[08:23] <illriginal> paulman  ^^
[08:23] <Paulman> is there any shortcut?
[08:23] <rbrunhuber> Paulmann: I think this is a client feature
[08:23] <rbrunhuber> Paulman: try to type the first few letters of the name and maybe press <tab> key
[08:24] <Paulman> :)
[08:24] <Paulman> nice
[08:24] <Paulman> thanx!!!!!
[08:24] <phpcode> how do i get eggdrop to start when i login?
[08:24] <h_> Ive just installed kubuntu and the graphics seem to be at set at a very low setting so everything looks like the graphics of an old computer. What can I do about this anyone ??
[08:24] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: so back to you then :-)
[08:24] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, what do i now?..
[08:24] <illriginal> yes please ^^
[08:26] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: try sdptool browse <btaddr>
[08:26] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, when i use this: illriginal@illriginal:~$ sudo hidd --connect 00:1B:52:9A:32:F7
[08:26] <illriginal> Can't get device information: Success <- i get that
[08:28] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: do not use hidd for phones it is for human interface devices (mice, keyboards) only
[08:28] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: you phone quite surely has no hid profile so you can't connect with hidd
[08:30] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, http://pastebin.com/d3215c417
[08:30] <illriginal> ^
[08:31] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: looks good so your mobile supports obex push and obex file transfer.
[08:31] <illriginal> of course
[08:31] <illriginal> this is one of the top of the line motorola cell phones rbrunhuber
[08:31] <Bauldrick> cant get knetworkmanager to see/use safecom wifi dongle, any helpers?
[08:32] <Ozoned> h_: Run settings>>moniter&display, u can increase the resolution, u need admin pwd to apply change
[08:32] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,
[08:33] <illriginal>  rbrunhuber  so what do you suggest would be the next move?
[08:34] <rbrunhuber> illriginal:  try to start gnome-obex-send. look in you menus first before you start it from konsole
[08:34] <underdog5004> I don't know if this went through already (I'm having internet connection...difficulties), but I'm having problems with kppp throwing the NO CARRIER error at me when I try to dial up...any ideas?
[08:35] <illriginal> it's not in my menu
[08:35] <illriginal> whoa
[08:36] <rbrunhuber> illriginal:  have you installed gnome-bluetooth paket?
[08:36] <illriginal> ok i gotta set my phone to discoverable mode
[08:39] <bobox> #fr.ubuntu
[08:39] <bobox> merde
[08:39] <bobox> sorry
[08:39] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, http://pastebin.com/d1621ffe8
[08:40] <Ozoned> underdog5004: it got thru ;) NO CARRIER is no dialtone, is ur prob intermittent?
[08:41] <underdog5004> Ozoned, lol, it's for a different computer on my network...I only have one phone line, so I have to keep switching between dsl and dialup..
[08:41] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, what does that mean?
[08:41] <underdog5004> seems like it is all the time...I don't know why it's not working nicely...
[08:43] <Ozoned> underdog5004: Only under kubuntu? Does modem function ok with another OS?
[08:43] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  i have the gnome-bluetooth packet yes
[08:43] <underdog5004> Ozoned, no idea...it's actually running edubuntu, but I like kppp
[08:43] <surgy> so i guess the sdl packages are broken in the repos, so now i gotta compile from source
[08:43] <underdog5004> and I really don't want to install XP on it
[08:44] <underdog5004> it's only got a 400Mhz proc in it...
[08:44] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: I'm quite familiar with all the kde tools for bluetooth but not with the gnome ones. but don't dispair :-)
[08:45] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,
[08:45] <illriginal>  ok
[08:46] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  you're actually savin me from installing windows <,< thank god
[08:46] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: one moment please
[08:47] <Ozoned> underdog5004: np What modem do u have, and is it internal or extenal?
[08:47] <underdog5004> Ozoned, h/o,I'll lspci it
[08:47] <underdog5004> 00:0b.0 Communication controller: Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp Modem (rev 08)
[08:47] <underdog5004> I'm using the Slamr drivers
[08:48] <underdog5004> I think...lol
[08:48] <underdog5004> kppp successfully queries the modem...just no dial tone...
[08:49] <Ozoned> underdog5004: I use a US robotics, Dapper was broken , Feisty is ok, what version is edubuntu on?
[08:49] <underdog5004> edgy, I think
[08:50] <Ozoned> underdog5004: Lame Q, u've checked telephone for pulse ;)
[08:50] <underdog5004> yeah
[08:50] <underdog5004> several times
[08:50] <underdog5004> and the dial-up number as well
[08:50] <Ozoned> underdog5004: K, sec
[08:50] <underdog5004> thanks
[08:53] <arle> hello, all
[08:53] <arle> I am connected via ppp
[08:54] <arle> LiveCD Kubuntu
[08:54] <arle> can use Konversation
[08:54] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: you have to change your /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf to the following:
[08:54] <arle> but Konqueror doesn't navigate to web pages
[08:54] <arle> I can ping www.google.com
[08:54] <illriginal> ok...
[08:54] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: http://pastebin.com/d4afe511e
[08:54] <arle> my /etc/resolv.com have the correct DNSs
[08:55] <underdog5004> arle, how fast are you connected?
[08:55] <underdog5004> try installing links (a command line browser) and see if it works...
[08:55] <arle> it's a 56k modem
[08:56] <markus> hello all, help with vlc (vlc-nox) ? please
[08:56] <yeniklasorr> stdin is here ?
[08:56] <arle> elinks works
[08:56] <arle> so do w3m
[08:56] <underdog5004> arle, weird...maybe it's just too much overhead
[08:56] <illriginal> ok
[08:56] <arle> underdog5004: strange... I am downloading opera now
[08:56] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, i changed it to what you told me to change it to
[08:56] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, then saved it
[08:57] <Ozoned> underdog5004: Can u communicate directly with modem, like send ATDT ?
[08:57] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  what do I need to do now?
[08:57] <arle> underdog5004: overhead? what do you mean? should I have to change some Konqueror timeouts?
[08:57] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: restart bluetooth sudo /etc/init.d/bluez restart
[08:57] <underdog5004> Ozoned, in the kppp log it does that...
[08:57] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  sudo /etc/init.d/bluez restart <- does not work
[08:58] <underdog5004> arle, maybe...It's just that if you're running from a livecd, there may be too much going on for the available resources
[08:58] <llutz>   illriginal /etc/init.d/bluetooth
[08:58] <Ozoned> underdog5004: what does the log have after ATDT ?
[08:58] <underdog5004> Ozoned, how can I do it manually?
[08:58] <yeniklasorr> Firefox building gave me an error. Can you help what is problem. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34199/
[08:58] <underdog5004> Ozoned, h/o, I'll paste the log
[08:59] <arle> underdog5004: strange... because I am downlading opera using elinks now, have this konverastion opened
[08:59] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: sorry my bad
[08:59] <arle> maybe it's a network problem
[08:59] <underdog5004> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34200/ Ozoned
[08:59] <underdog5004> arafat, that's really weird...
[08:59] <underdog5004> arle, that's really weird...
[08:59] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  /etc/init.d/bluetooth
[08:59] <underdog5004> I don't know what to tell you.
[08:59] <Ozoned> underdog5004: I''l look, u can do it manually  with minicom
[09:00] <illriginal> oh ok
[09:00] <arle> underdog5004: really really weird
[09:00] <underdog5004> Ozoned, ok, I'll give it a shot
[09:00] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: now you have to install ussp-push
[09:00] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  im gettin an error
[09:01] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: i hope you are on feisty?
[09:01] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  yes
[09:01] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: what error?
[09:01] <arle> I don't want to "cross post".. but maybe in someone in #ubuntu can help..
[09:02] <Ozoned> underdog5004: hmmm, may be the driver
[09:02] <underdog5004> weird
[09:02] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: will be back in a minute.
[09:03] <illriginal> Failed to connect to the SDP server rbrunhuber
[09:03] <Ozoned> underdog5004: see http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/?PHPSESSID=225a45caef54fa670c1c897b8fabec0c
[09:03] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  Could not assign a channel to service kbemusedsrv.
[09:04] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  details:  Please make sure that sdpd is running;
[09:04] <illriginal> without it, other devices will not be able to find out
[09:04] <illriginal> which services your computer offers.
[09:04] <arle> underdog5004: interesting... the favicon is being loaded...
[09:05] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: give me a few minutes please, I'm just installing ubuntu-desktop
[09:05] <illriginal> oh...
[09:05] <illriginal> ok
[09:05] <illriginal> thanks for your help... you're goin a long way to just to help :D
[09:06] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: then i can try to help you more in details. My computer is a total messed up gutsy setup so this does not matter any more.
[09:06] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  oh lol
[09:07] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: if had a real hard time with bluetooth and linux, so I'm trying to give you all the help i can. There are not many people in the ubuntu channels that can help you on this. so if you know it to we are one more :-)
[09:07] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: but you will have to wait ca. 10 minutes
[09:07] <illriginal> oh trust me, I'm writin all this down.
[09:08] <illriginal> ok rbrunhuber  ill brb gonna cook something real quick
[09:08] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: so let's meet in 20 minutes again?
[09:09] <illriginal> it'll; take about 15 minutes
[09:09] <illriginal> ^^
[09:09] <kiosk> Anyone know of a good place on IRC to chat with SPAM fighters?
[09:09] <underdog5004> Ozoned, sorry, I was afk...upset tummy. I really don't want to use the linuxant driver cause the free one limits me to 14.4k
[09:09] <underdog5004> but I'll give it a shot
[09:09] <Ozoned> underdog5004: Just want to know if it works, if not then problem elsewehere
[09:10] <underdog5004> ok
[09:10] <underdog5004> h/o
[09:10] <soc> hi
[09:11] <soc> hiw can i setup kopete to open firefox by default when clicking on links?
[09:12] <leagris> soc, did you try sudo update-alternatives --configure x-www-browser?
[09:13] <ironman> should i get the cd or dvd if im going to install?
[09:13] <leagris> soc sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[09:14] <soc> firefox is the only one in there
[09:14] <soc> ok, it works now ...
[09:14] <soc> weird
[09:15] <arle> well...
[09:15] <arle> the Opera browser did the trick
[09:15] <arle> I am navigating, now
[09:16] <seezer> anyone with write permissions at www.kubuntu.org here? there is a typo on the frontpage in the amarok 1.4.7 link. points to http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/234 - should be http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/243
[09:17] <kiosk> how do i get invited to #antispam
[09:18] <kiosk> "lovely party pity i wasn't invited"
[09:18] <kiosk> LOL
[09:18] <kiosk> had to say that
[09:19] <kiosk> i try to join it says you need to be invited to join this channel
[09:20] <czer323> if I install ubuntu beside kubuntu on a different partition, is it going to update the Grub Menu properly?
[09:21] <czer323> Just wanna compare differences and see if i can get one working out of box better than the other for all the things I need.
[09:21] <illriginal> rbrunhuber, im back :P
[09:21] <waylandbill_> czer323: yes. grub should have both in the menu
[09:21] <ironman> do i need the dvd or can i install kubuntu from the cd version?
[09:22] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: it's just applying here. so one more moment please
[09:22] <illriginal> no problem rbrunhuber  was just givin the heads up
[09:22] <waylandbill_> dvd just has desktop and alternate installs on one disc really.
[09:23] <waylandbill_> use the cd and add what you need via apt.
[09:23] <ironman> thx
[09:23] <ubuntu_> hi
[09:23] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: it just applying totem-* so the end is near :-)
[09:24] <waylandbill_> ironman: there are other maintainance options on the dvd, but not needed for basic installation.
[09:24] <ubuntu_> can there anybody help me?
[09:24] <waylandbill_> !ask
[09:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> sure... whats your problem?
[09:24] <ubuntu_> my ubuntu isnt starting on my laptop
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: the liveCD, or an installation?
[09:25] <ubuntu_> a live cd
[09:26] <ubuntu_> it starts before
[09:26] <ubuntu_> but now it isnt starting on the laptop, but on the desktop it runs
[09:26] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: is just restart the session and then we start. brb
[09:26] <illriginal> k
[09:27] <waylandbill_> ubuntu_: it had booted fine on the laptop previously?
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: have you changed anything on the laptop? like any settings in the BIOS?
[09:27] <ubuntu_> yes
[09:27] <ubuntu_> no i didnt change anything on teh laptop
[09:28] <ubuntu_> no change in the bios settings
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: are you sure the CD is still good?
[09:28] <ubuntu_> i work now on my desktop with this cd
[09:28] <waylandbill_> you could perform a media check on the CD to verify it is good.
[09:29] <ubuntu_> i think the cd is good, otherwise i couldnt work yet
[09:29] <aib> i've made a debian package out of our software, and I would like to include a K Menu item with our icon and program name. what do I need to do for that?
[09:29] <waylandbill_> perhaps, but I always perform an md5 sum media check to be positive.
[09:30] <fester> nosraednaekim: Are you there?
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> aib: I think its something you have to run in the post-install script... ask in #kde if no-one can help you
[09:30] <aib> thanks for the tip
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> fester: about what?
[09:31] <fester> nosrednaekim: I have a help to get Medusa4 installed.
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> fester: ah... thought you said "are you sure"
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> fester: did you get it installed?
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> fester: I never got it downloaded.. :(
[09:32] <fester> nosrednaekim: I'm not saying it works, I'm just saying it got installed.
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> :)
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> so does it work?
[09:33] <sanzanric> dose anybody have a xorg.conf for the 1420n, i forgot to back up mine
[09:33] <fester> NO. But if you use 'chown' to change the permissions, you can at least get it installed. But of course you probably already figured that out.
[09:35] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: i'm here again
[09:35] <illriginal> jkk
[09:36] <fester> nosrednaekim: ...you know anything about 'chown'? Now I'm having problems installing Twiki.
[09:36] <rbrunhuber> can you install ussp-push?
[09:36] <illriginal> i already did rbrunhuber
[09:37] <Wiggles> !startup
[09:37] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[09:37] <Wiggles> !startupkde
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startupkde - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <Wiggles> dang
[09:37] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: do you have a bluetotth sign in the taskbar?
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> fester: a little...
[09:38] <illriginal>  no i closed it.
[09:38] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  shall i restart again?
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> fester: whats the error when you try to start it?
[09:38] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: yes
[09:38] <Wiggles> How do you make programs autostart at boot?
[09:38] <Wiggles> In kubuntu
[09:38] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart <- correct?
[09:39] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  and also make my phone into discoverable mode?
[09:40] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  i typed in sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart  but i didn't get an icon on my taskbar.
[09:40] <Wiggles> !boot
[09:40] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:40] <fester> nosrednaekim: I'm supposed to run a file named 'configure', but I can't because previous instructions told me to change the root and group to www-data. Because of that change I can't run  the program myself. Now I've changed the lower directories groups and owners to root. Now I'm running a shell as root, but can't change the owneer or group for Twiki.
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> what is Twiki?
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> a folder?
[09:41] <fester> nosrednaekim: I should read what I write before I push ENTER.
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> :)
[09:42] <fester> nosrednaekim: Twiki is a database program which is pretty much like what they use in Wikipedia.
[09:43] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: do you have a bluetooth setting thing in system menu?
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> fester: oh, so it has nothing to do with medusa? or is that what they use for docs...
[09:44] <illriginal> omg om gom gom omg
[09:44] <illriginal> it works!
[09:44] <illriginal> bluetooth obex client FTW!!!
[09:44] <fester> nosrednaekim: Nope. I decided I might benefit from getting some more experience using Kubuntu by installing a more widely used package before I went back to Medusa.
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> =)
[09:45] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: have you been able to push files ?
[09:45] <illriginal> wait..
[09:45] <illriginal> is it a slow transfer? like... REALLY slow?
[09:45] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  i don't understand
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> fester:  ah:)
[09:45] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: yes really slow, 1 mbit. ca. 100 kb/s
[09:46] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: sorry 100 kByte /s
[09:46] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  lol how long is that for a file of which is 7mb?
[09:46] <rbrunhuber> over a minute
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> fester: do a chmod +x <directory>
[09:47] <fester> nosrednaekim: ..got any ideas about getting permissions changed so I can complete the list of things I'm supposed to do?
[09:47] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  so then 1-2 minutes?
[09:47] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: circa
[09:47] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  i don't understand.
[09:47] <francho-d1> anybody knows a spanish  channel??
[09:47] <fester> nosrednaekim: so what's chmod?
[09:47] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  i don't think it's pushin the file... it's still at 0%
[09:48] <czer323> !spanish
[09:48] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> fester: yeah... pop up a root konqueror window with "kdesu konqueror" and browse to that directory. then right click on th folder .configure is in, and select properties->permissions
[09:48] <francho-d1> tks ubotu
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> fester: chmod modifies permissions.
[09:48] <illriginal> ok i canceled the transfer, rbrunhuber  what shall we do now?
[09:49] <fester> nosrednaekim: chmod --help shows it changes  the mode of each file to MODE. What on earth does THAT mean?
[09:49] <illriginal> wait!
[09:49] <illriginal> it's transfering!
[09:49] <illriginal> muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[09:49] <illriginal> muuuuuuuahahahahahahahahaha :D
[09:50] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  YOU'RE THE MAN!
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> fester: Mode means if its executable, readable, and writable.
[09:50] <illriginal> i had to hit "accept" on my phone (-.-)
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> or select ones of those.
[09:50] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: i hope i don't get kicked now but gnome really looks great (although i do not know  my way around there)
[09:51] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  I thank you so much... last night I almost put the window's devil disc into my drive just so I could transfer files over to my phone from PC
[09:51] <fester> nosrednaekim: so I might have an executable file which has been marked as non-executable?
[09:51] <illriginal> yeah i find gnome easy to use :P
[09:51] <illriginal> kde though makes thigns a lot easier
[09:51] <illriginal> things*
[09:51] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: so let's stop the gnome praising. again.
[09:51] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  ^^ well rbrunhuber
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> fester: maybe...
[09:51] <illriginal> you're a great man!@
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> such as ./configure....
[09:52] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  im gonna check if i can see the file now
[09:52] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: so now you are started, you may want to try gammu or wammu. so you have even more control of your phone (addressbook, sms, )
[09:52] <fester> nosrednaekim: This system offers me SO many opportunities to find humility!
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> :)
[09:53] <illriginal> rbrunhuber,  really?!? linux has this <,<
[09:53] <fester> See ya later!
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> if thats actually the problem
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> and learn stuff... which is the important part. But you have to be humble to learn
[09:54] <underdog5004> Ozoned, did you get my message? I was switching phone cords around...lol
[09:54] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: yes. but it may not necessarily work on your phone. just give it a try. But i can't walk you through this
[09:54] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: and the big bang will come when opensync is stable.
[09:54] <Ozoned> underdog5004: No sorry, maybe I missed it, but np, how dit go?
[09:54] <illriginal> sweeeeet good info rbrunhuber
[09:54] <underdog5004> Ozoned, the installer for the driver keeps hanging
[09:55] <underdog5004> for the linuxant driver
[09:55] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: have to go now. Enjoy your new possibilites :-)
[09:55] <underdog5004> so...I'm d/l'ing the Dell XP disk...install that and see where it goes, you know?
[09:55] <illriginal> me too rbrunhuber  time to go out now! thank again!!!
[09:56] <Ozoned> underdog5004: ok, so u will try with win, to see if modem works ok?
[09:56] <underdog5004> yeah
[09:56] <underdog5004> thanks for the help
[09:56] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: don't forget to spread the word that with linux far more is possible than you think :-)
[09:56] <Ozoned> underdog5004: Dialup on linux has always been major PITA, wish could really help ;)
[09:57] <rbrunhuber> illriginal: and the support is really great too. *cough cough*
[09:57] <llutz> Ozoned: dialup is really easy, you just need non-castrated hardware for it
[09:57] <underdog5004> yeah, I know...I managed to get a controller based modem working a few months ago...but that box is gone now...
[09:58] <Ozoned> llutz: this is true :-)
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> underdog5004: go buy a serial modem... that way it doesn't"go" with other computers.
[09:59] <underdog5004> lol
[09:59] <underdog5004> good idea...except I'm poor
[09:59] <underdog5004> oh well
[10:00] <underdog5004> it's for my family that lives in the boonies...I've got DSL here...crappy dsl, but high speed...
[10:00] <Ozoned> underdog5004: Hey I live in the boonies ;)
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> :)
[10:00] <underdog5004> lol
[10:01] <underdog5004> I think my whole county (Humboldt) is part of the boonies
[10:01] <Ozoned> underdog5004: beg borrow or steal a USR, can't go wrong, go wrong...
[10:01] <underdog5004> USR serial modem?
[10:02] <Ozoned> underdog5004: yup
[10:02] <david_edmundson> is that US Robotics?
[10:02] <underdog5004> alrighty, I'll see what the robbers on ebay can give me...
[10:02] <Ozoned> llutz: yes US Robotics
[10:02] <david_edmundson> I've yet to see them make a single Robot.
[10:02] <llutz> aeh?
[10:02] <Ozoned> david_edmundson: :-)
[10:03] <Ozoned> illriginal: my pardons , finger trouble
[10:03] <david_edmundson> finger trouble means you type a completely differnet name :-P
[10:03] <david_edmundson> *different
[10:03] <Ozoned> llutz: gah, serious finger trouble
[10:03] <llutz> tab-completion is nice, if it works ;)
[10:04] <Ozoned> llutz: it's great, if u check what tabbed out ;)
[10:04] <Wiggles> Hi, I'm using kcontrol-autostart, but I keep getting a "No Type=... entry" error.  I don't know where the entry should go, or what types there are.
[10:04] <underdog5004> lol, no usr serial modems on ebay
[10:04] <underdog5004> afk
[10:04] <jhutchins> USR makes winmodems that don't work with linux.  They also make very good real modems.
[10:04] <llutz> underdog5004: most pc even don't have any serial-ports anymore today :((
[10:05] <underdog5004> lol
[10:05] <underdog5004> I know macs got rid of them a while ago
[10:05] <underdog5004> ok, I'm going to go buy a bike...bbl
[10:05] <llutz> if that works with linux....
[10:07] <llutz> why does amarok 1.4.7 need 20-30 seconds to close, when shutting down KDE-session? any idea
[10:07] <jhutchins> underdog5004: Look for 'external' instead of 'serial'.
[10:07] <jhutchins> llutz: writing/closing the preference and music database files.
[10:07] <llutz> jhutchins: serious? one reason more to use xmms again :(
[10:08] <jhutchins> xmms is a nice player.  Amarok is a collection manager.
[10:08] <jhutchins> llutz: Try just quitting, see if that isn't a bit faster.
[10:09] <llutz> "amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE"   announced as player too :)
[10:10] <david_edmundson> llutz: it needs some time as it writes out what's in the current playlist
[10:10] <david_edmundson> it's designed so you only have <50 songs in the playlist
[10:10] <david_edmundson> and the rest are in your collection
[10:11] <llutz> david_edmundson: usually the playlist is empty when closing
[10:11] <david_edmundson> oh
[10:11] <david_edmundson> well there goes my shiny theory
[10:12] <llutz> and further on, amarok won't be started again when loggin in again. seems it crashes during shutdown (or takes too long for session-management)
[10:13] <Wiggles> Hi, I'm using kcontrol-autostart, but I keep getting a "No Type=... entry" error.  I don't know where the entry should go, or what types there are.  Any suggestions?
[10:13] <jhutchins> llutz: #amarok is usually pretty helpful.
[10:14] <llutz> jhutchins: i should howl(?) there too ;)
[10:15] <jhutchins> llutz: They might be able to help you troubleshoot the crash.
[10:31] <dthacker-lt> hello from the OLUG installfest
[10:32] <dthacker-lt> !mp3
[10:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <radioaktivstorm> is there some sort of keyboard shortcut to close kde applications (like ctrl +Q or something) ? I mean.... I love using the mouse and all... but it would be nice to know of one.
[10:34] <steinerhippo> alt+f4
[10:34] <david_edmundson> radioaktivstorm: and control+w
[10:35] <radioaktivstorm> ah cool, I know alt f4 but that doesn't work for like the more complex apps like kontact I was looking for the quit application as opposed to close window. ctrl+w is it?
[10:36] <radioaktivstorm> david_edmundson... nope... didn't do it :/
[10:36] <radioaktivstorm> ah well
[10:38] <saylar> hey guys, i need some help with a hardware problem. this the right place, or any other channel?
[10:38] <jhutchins> radioaktivstorm: Some of the apps that background don't really have a quit keystroke.  Some you have to go through the dropdown.  I don't know of shortcuts for that.  You can pkill them; you can usualy kill them from the sytem tray with the mouse.
[10:38] <jhutchins> radioaktivstorm: You can use ctrl-alt-esc to kill them but I din't think that's a good idea usually.
[10:38] <radioaktivstorm> lol
[10:39] <radioaktivstorm> yeah... haha
[10:43] <saylar> ah, i'll just ask. could it be, that either my motherboard or my cpu is critically damaged, when i power the machine up, cpu fan starts running, hdds are starting up, but the system itself won't start? i don't get a signal to the monitor
[10:43] <saylar> i even took out all hdds, the dvd-rom and the ram.
[10:44] <saylar> nothing, the cpu fan starts running and that's it
[10:44] <saylar> any suggestions?
[10:44] <jhutchins> saylar: Does it beep?
[10:44] <jhutchins> saylar: How old is it?
[10:45] <killown> exist any tool for kde to configure multimidia keyboard?
[10:45] <saylar> it is almost brandnew, asus m2npv-vm is the board, and no it does not beep
[10:46] <saylar> it is so frustrating, i'm close to crying like a little girl
[10:46] <saylar> i had the motherboard standing on my desk for several month until today. bought a fancy new case and now this
[10:46] <maverick> saylar: what's the problem?
[10:47] <jhutchins> saylar: Does it have a bunch of little can-shaped capacitors on it?
[10:47] <maverick> saylar: did ou make sure that you connected the 2 power cables to the board...the main cable and the 12V cable
[10:47] <saylar> yeah, i did.
[10:47] <radioaktivstorm> thanks for all the help, ciao!
[10:47] <jhutchins> saylar: Is any part of the motherboard touching the case where it shouldn't be?
[10:47] <saylar> and yeah it does have a lot of them ;)
[10:48] <saylar> nope
[10:48] <jhutchins> saylar: So it's new, right?
[10:48] <saylar> yeah, almost. like i said, couple of months
[10:48] <saylar> i still have warranty ;)
[10:48] <jhutchins> K, it's probably not dead capacitors.
[10:48] <saylar> but, you know how it is ;)
[10:49] <saylar> maybe i will take it out of the case again and see if it will boot up then. just to make sure
[10:49] <jhutchins> I would take it out of the case and see if it behaves the same.
[10:49] <jhutchins> No beep?
[10:49] <maverick> No beep
[10:49] <saylar> not at all
[10:49] <jhutchins> (Speaker connected?)
[10:49] <maverick> saylar: this is a power problem
[10:49] <saylar> cpu fan starts running and that's all that's happening
[10:50] <zipper> I cannot use my mouse in quake3, and i cannot seem to bring down the console. Any hints on what could be wrong?
[10:50] <maverick> saylar: or it's dead
[10:50] <zipper> quake4 works fine
[10:50] <saylar> i just have the cpu on the board, nothing else is connected
[10:50] <saylar> not even the memory
[10:50] <jhutchins> saylar: Try connecting the speaker and see if it's beeping on startup.
[10:50] <saylar> i'll finish my cigarette and then take it out of the case again
[10:51] <saylar> if it is not working i will drink myself to death tonight. that's for sure
[10:54] <deathguppie> hey, has anyone else encountered problems installing kde4libs???
[10:55] <deathguppie> kde4libs is screwed up by previously installed kdelibs5 and I cannot seem to fix the problem..
[10:55] <deathguppie> ... o_0
[10:56] <deathguppie> .. ok.. don't everyone try to answer at once now..
[10:58] <rbrunhuber> deathguppie: can't remember any troubles. What kind problems do you mean?
[11:12] <zipper> I cant use my mouse in quake3, not even in the menu. It seems to register when i click the buttons though. What could be wrong?
[11:12] <saylar> no, nothing
[11:13] <saylar> so, jhutchins. what do you think is more likely damaged, the cpu or the mainboard?
[11:13] <jhutchins> saylar: cpu, because the power supply switching is working.
[11:14] <saylar> power supply switching? what do you mean by that? that it is turning on?
[11:17] <martijn> anyone know a guide to install compiz-fusion?
[11:18] <jhutchins> saylar: Yeah, the fact that it turns on and powers the fan.  If the MB were bad it would probably do nothing.
[11:18] <jhutchins> saylar: I would take both, WITH ram, to a computer shop and have them verify it though.
[11:18] <saylar> problem is tough, that i bought cpu and MB in different online stores
[11:19] <jhutchins> saylar: Good reason to make friends with a local store.
[11:19] <saylar> yeah, probably the best thing to do.
[11:19] <jhutchins> saylar: You can just gamble on-line, or you can get a local store to test the MB and buy a CPU from them.
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> newegg is NOT gambling :)
[11:22] <saylar> i think i'll call both online stores on monday morning. the one i bought the cpu from is quite reliable
[11:22] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: No, but not being sure whether it's the MB or the CPU is.
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> oh... hmm
[11:24] <fester> How do I find the path for Konqueror?
[11:24] <nosrednaekim> "type konqueror"
[11:25] <jhutchins> or which konqueror
[11:25] <Level15> hey guys
[11:25] <scheater6> You mean the absolute address of the binary executable to konqueror?
[11:25] <scheater6> it should be in /usr/bin
[11:26] <scheater6> that what you need?
[11:27] <saylar> 
[11:27] <jhutchins> 
[11:27] <Level15> 
[11:27] <martijn> what should i install with the mix of beryl and compiz now?
[11:27] <Level15> martijn: compiz fusion
[11:28] <martijn> seeing there are merged i mean
[11:28] <scheater6> Depends on what you want.  There are still plugins from Beryl that have yet to be merged - but only a few.
[11:28] <martijn> Level15: i tried that, but then i run compiz --replace and get no borders and high cou
[11:28] <martijn> cpu
[11:29] <Level15> the borders issue may require you fix your xorg.conf. The CPU, dunno, are you using the right drivers for your video card?
[11:30] <scheater6> If you had beryl installed, you can run the beryl-manager and select compiz from there.  If it's something more drastic than that, you're probably going fishing in xorg.
[11:30] <martijn> Level15: yeah, nvidia so that is easy
[11:31] <ubuntu_> Hola
[11:31] <Level15> martijn: in that case, and if you are 100% sure you are already using nvidia's accelerated driver, check your xorg.conf for this lines:
[11:31] <Level15>         Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[11:31] <Level15> and:
[11:31] <ubuntu_> ok, english
[11:32] <Level15>         DefaultDepth    24
[11:32] <Level15> martijn: that solved the no window decorations issue
[11:32] <Wiggles> Hi, I'm using kcontrol-autostart, but I keep getting a "No Type=... entry" error.  I don't know where the entry should go, or what types there are.  Any suggestions?
[11:32] <ubuntu_> hello everybody. I have a question.
[11:32] <Level15> !kcontrol-autostart
[11:32] <ubuntu_> please, is there anybody to answer me ?
[11:33] <scheater6> ubuntu_:  what can we do for you?
[11:33] <Level15> ubuntu_: what's that kcontrol-autostart thing?
[11:34] <ubuntu_> I will install kubuntu at my pc.
[11:34] <martijn> Level15: both were already there(?)
[11:34] <ubuntu_> I have a 120 GB hard disk drive
[11:34] <tobias> good evening ladies and gentlemen =)
[11:35] <Level15> martijn: ok, that's strange... could you please describe your problem in more detail? maybe i misunderstood
[11:35] <Bene> BARI: whats your question
[11:35] <BARI> I want to make partition to my hdd.
[11:35] <BARI> waht is the partition schemma for this ?
[11:36] <BARI> (sorry my english)
[11:36] <scheater6> Is your question how to partition a disk, or are you asking how you should divide it up?
[11:36] <Level15> BARI: BARI: that's for you to decide, but i'd recommend a / partition of 10 GB and a /home partition of as much as you can :)
[11:36] <tobias> BARI:  are you looking for a partition-manager or did I get you wrong?
[11:37] <BARI> I am not looking for a partition-manager
[11:38] <Level15> BARI: Q: are the 120 GB just for linux? or will you have win as well on it?
[11:38] <BARI> I want to know how many partitions, and what size
[11:38] <BARI> just for linux
[11:38] <talula> Howdy!
[11:38] <tobias> okay so Level15 answered already
[11:38] <talula> I have a quick question.  I want to upgrade and try out the Gutsy beta
[11:38] <scheater6> Level15 spelled it out nice.  / 10GB, and /home as big as you can.
[11:38] <talula> beta (tribe builds) since they have newer kernels and such....
[11:39] <talula> I downloaded the normal Tribe CD but I didn't see any option for upgrading, only formating and doing a clean install.
[11:39] <Wiggles> I just want to run "emerald --replace" when I start up, but I can't get it to work.
[11:39] <Level15> BARI: you could do more fancy stuff like LVM and have your filesystems and logical volumes grow as needed :)
[11:39] <talula> I downloaded the alternate install cd, and I tried sudo sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade, but it immediately throws out the error:
[11:39] <Level15> Wiggles: create a shell script with that command under .kde/Autostart/
[11:39] <talula> Could not find the upgrade application archive, exiting
[11:40] <talula> What is the best way to ugrade to Gutsy?
[11:40] <scheater6> Someone verify this - could tatula do the old method and change every instance of "feisty" to "gusty" in his sources.list?
[11:40] <Wiggles> Level15, how do I create a script?
[11:40] <Aranel> when I use ttyX, (ex: CTRL ALT F1) , It just gives black screen, how can i fix it ? I need the console :)
[11:40] <talula> I could certainly try that, thanks scheater6
[11:40] <Level15> use your favorite editor, like kate. create a file with the following lines
[11:41] <Level15> #!/bin/bash
[11:41] <Level15> emerald --replace
[11:41] <Wiggles> Level15, Just a text file?
[11:41] <Level15> then make it executable
[11:41] <Level15> yep
[11:41] <tobias> Aranel: what about Ctrl Alt F2 ?
[11:41] <Aranel> tobias: F2, F3 ,F4 .. :)
[11:41] <talula> what directory is in the sources.list file in again?  I'm primarily a Gentoo user, and new to Kubuntu.
[11:41] <tobias> all the same ?
[11:41] <tobias> mhm
[11:42] <talula> sorry, that was a lazy question, I can search for it
[11:42] <martijn> Level15: i have no window border, you got it right
[11:42] <talula> I have a second question though as well.
[11:42] <Level15> martijn: is emerald running?
[11:43] <scheater6> tatula: it's in /etc/apt   I highly recommend making a backup before messing with sources.list
[11:43] <BARI> Level15: This is the very first time I heard about LVM.
[11:43] <talula> Normally in Gentoo, I can just download a kernel source, configure it, compile it, install it, and I'm good to go.  I tried that with Kubuntu, and then suddenly it wouldn't load the ATI drivers telling me I was missing the restricted-modules package for that kernel.
[11:43] <Level15> BARI: usually it find more use on servers, but can be used on desktops/workstations/laptops as well
[11:44] <talula> Is there a way to make a custom kernel build, and still be able to load the ati drivers?
[11:44] <Level15> BARI: it requires a little bit more effort to set up, as well as installing from the alternate CD
[11:44] <Level15> talula: ATI is evil :(
[11:44] <scheater6> I'm not very familiar with upgrading kernels past the version in the current repisositories, but it is possible to compile your own kernel.
[11:44] <talula> And I know that free software is better, but frankly there is basically next to no support for this notebook's internal ATI card in any of the free drivers.
[11:44] <Level15> talula: but i guess you can, provided you also recompile ATI driver
[11:44] <tobias> talula: what card exactly ?
[11:44] <martijn> Level15: what *is emerald?
[11:45] <tobias> martijn: a window-manager
[11:45] <talula> I can compile my own kernel, but I have no idea how to make the restricted-modules package, and without it, Kubuntu seems to block using "restricted" add-ons to the kernel like the ATI driver.
[11:45] <Level15> martijn: decorator for the window manager
[11:45] <talula> ATI Radeon XPress 200M
[11:45] <Level15> talula: my guess is that if you recompile your kernel, you'll need to download and set up by hand ATI drivers from ATI website
[11:45] <BARI> Level15: ok, I don't want to make a server. I am window's user. I just want to use linux (and learning)
[11:45] <tobias> talula: try getting the ati-driver from amd.ati.com
[11:45] <Level15> BARI: then forget about LVM for the time being
[11:46] <BARI> ok
[11:46] <Wiggles> Level15, It's just opening the file in Kate.  What am I doing wrong?
[11:46] <Level15> BARI: considering you are new and will have a huge HD just for linux, you might want to set up more than i originally said for /
[11:46] <Level15> maybe 20 GB
[11:46] <talula> I will try that, but there is a Kubuntu package called restricted-kernel-modules or some-such and there is one for each official Kubuntu kernel package release.  It is even in the ATI Guide I do believe on the Ubuntu wiki.
[11:46] <Level15> Wiggles: first line must be "#!/bin/bash"
[11:46] <Level15> Wiggles: no quotes, of course
[11:46] <Wiggles> Level15, ok
[11:47] <Level15> talula: yeah, but that kernel driver is compiled against the kubuntu kernel, so will probably not work with your custom kernel
[11:47] <tobias> talula: I am not sure about that, sorry~ cant help you with that but the official driver installation worked fine for me. Maybe you are as lucky as me :o
[11:47] <Level15> Wiggles: second line must be the command you want to run: "emerald --replace"
[11:47] <martijn> Level15: kde-window-decorator crashes when i load compiz --replace now
[11:48] <tobias> martijn: nVidia or ATI? :o
[11:48] <Level15> martijn: hmm, sorry, i can't help you more with that. But I can help you set beryl instead, if you want
[11:49] <martijn> tobias: nvidia
[11:49] <martijn> Level15: no i want the newest
[11:50] <martijn> thanks though
[11:50] <Level15> martijn: although i'd recommend you wait until kde4 comes out :)
[11:50] <tobias> martijn: the newest one is compiz-fusion
[11:50] <BARI> Level15: I want to separate SYS's files from USER's files. In windows I had two partitions, ONE for system files and OTHER for "documents and settings". I want to make something like this. Sorry to speak like indian :p
[11:50] <martijn> tobias: that i do not have installed i think
[11:50] <talula> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:50] <tobias> !fusion | martijn
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <talula> You need the restricted-modules package
[11:51] <tobias> !compiz | martijn
[11:51] <ubotu> martijn: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:51] <Level15> BARI: that's why you put your /home on a different partition. User files live there
[11:51] <talula> And I don't know how to create this package for a custom kernel.
[11:51] <martijn> only the plugins i think
[11:51] <tobias> sorry talula I cant help you with it :/
[11:51] <Level15> BARI: bottom line is this. Create a swap partition of 1 or 2 GB, a / partition of 18 GB and a /home partition with the rest of the disk :)
[11:51] <lunitik> What package provides spell checking in Firefox? I don't want to have OpenOffice installed :(
[11:51] <talula> If you are a kde user, kde 4 will have its own composite manager, so you won't need Beryl or Compiz Fusion for it.
[11:52] <talula> Though I do use compiz-fusion myself on KDE these days.
[11:52] <Level15> talula: compiz fusion freezes my box over here
[11:52] <talula> Firefox 2 has built-in spellchecking I do believe
[11:52] <BARI> Level15: Excelent! thank you very much
[11:52] <Level15> BARI: no problem
[11:52] <lunitik> talula: Uhh, KDE already has a composition manager... kompmgr or whatever... correct terms are awesome.
[11:52] <talula> I run Gentoo on most of my boxes.  I never wanted to screw with trying to install it before, but I just did a new Sabayon install, and it is great.  Compiz-fusion, codecs, mp3, dvd, and everything working perfect out of the box.
[11:52] <BARI> Level15: Could I make one more question ?
[11:53] <Level15> BARI: sure!
[11:53] <lunitik> talula: Ubuntu packages split it out though.... so they don't have to provide hunspell 4 different times...
[11:54] <BARI> Level15: I have AMD Athlon XP 2500+ with 1024 MB RAM. What must to be the size of swap partition ?
[11:54] <lunitik> (hunspell is a fork of ispell ...)
[11:54] <scheater6> I like Sabayon, and if someone likes Gentoo then I recommend Sabayon, but I don't like Gentoo - not a fan of compiling everything.  It's a good distro though - it's basically just a precompiled Gentoo.
[11:54] <Level15> BARI: i'd recommend 1 GB.
[11:54] <lunitik> BARI: just make it a gig
[11:55] <Level15> BARI: but if you make it 2 GB, it will work as well
[11:55] <Level15> BARI: and  hey, you have 160 GB over there :)
[11:55] <Aranel> when I use ttyX, (ex: CTRL ALT F1) , It just gives black screen, how can i fix it ? I need the console :)
[11:55] <lunitik> Actually making it much larger will come with a performance penalty...
[11:55] <Level15> Aranel: try disabling the boot splashscreen in grub.
[11:56] <Aranel> Level15: how can i do it ?
[11:56] <Level15> lunitik: i have 3 GB swap, and i never use it... averything stays in RAM (got 2 GB of RAM)
[11:56] <BARI> Level15: What do you recommend to me ?
[11:56] <Level15> Aranel: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:56] <nagyv> hello! I have a problem with vfat external hdd. I have a problem mounting it, after using it with a windows machine. Here is the dmesg | tail after connecting it to the system http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34221/ Is it possible to get it back&working somehow?
[11:56] <Level15> BARI: start with 1 GB
[11:57] <BARI> Level15: ok. Thanks a lot.
[11:57] <Level15> nagyv: that doesn't look like a FS damage, but more like a HW failure
[11:57] <Level15> BARI: no problem
[11:58] <tobias> Level15: you seem to be busy tonight :D
[11:58] <Level15> tobias: well, i'd been absent from the channel for a week... i'm trying to catch up :P
[11:58] <tobias> hehe =D
[11:59] <BARI> Level15: good bye
[11:59] <ll_> is there a audio client out there that will alow me to listen to Yahoo radio music channels ?
[11:59] <Level15> BARI: bye, and good luck
[12:00] <nagyv> Level15: thx :(
[12:00] <pompel> hi everybody
[12:00] <tobias> hi pompel
[12:00] <Level15> nagyv: yeah, sorry about that. if it still works on win, try getting a backup
[12:02] <pompel> i have winXP and Ubuntu 5.10 installed, using GRUB....i'm about to install Kubuntu 7.04 and i'm wondering if installing this will somehow effect GRUB or my winXP
[12:02] <pompel> <---- linux newbie
[12:03] <Level15> pompel: are you planning to upgrade or install over the old 5.10?
[12:03] <pompel> Level15: installing over the old one...burnt an iso cd of 7.
[12:04] <pompel> 04
[12:04] <Level15> pompel: the installation will then certainly overwrite grub, but should be smart wnough to detect your winXP and set menu entries for it
[12:04] <Level15> *enough
[12:05] <pompel> will it reinstall grub? or will i have to find some other way of accessing my xp?
[12:06] <Level15> pompel: it will reinstall grub, but should be able to access wintendo just like you have been doing so far
[12:06] <pompel> hehe
[12:07] <pompel> thank you, Level15...just don't want to loose access to all the stuff i got in my ntfs drives
[12:08] <Level15> pompel: ok, np. In any case, a win xp CD might be handy... just in case
[12:08] <pompel> yeah...that's the problem..i resently moved and i can't find it
[12:08] <sehe> ubuntu comes with easy access to ntfs drives out-of-the-box methinks
[12:09] <pompel> *recently
[12:09] <Level15> pompel: well, i haven't seen may problems on recent installations, so you should be fine
[12:09] <pompel> okay..thanks
[12:09] <Level15> pompel: np
[12:09] <pompel> bbiab then...hopefully
[12:09] <Level15> ok :)
[12:10] <ll_> is there a audio client out there that will alow me to listen to Yahoo radio music channels ?
[12:11] <Wiggles> What package can I install to give flash support to Konqueror?
[12:11] <Biovore> !flash
[12:11] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:11] <sehe> wiggles: gnash?
[12:11] <Level15> ll_: AFAIK, yaho radio uses DRM... so no, you cant. Well, maybe you can, using vmware or wine or something like that
[12:12] <ll_> thank you
[12:12] <Level15> ll_: np
[12:18] <Biovore> 1+3+3=7
[12:19] <sehe> wellspoken
[12:19] <Level15> well, that depends on the base :)
[12:19] <Biovore> well hex and octal its the same..
[12:19] <hydrogen> not if your talking base 4!
[12:19] <dthacker-lt> saylan: doesn't sound good.
[12:20] <Level15> exactly my point :)
[12:20] <Biovore> true..
[12:20] <Biovore> just like 1000/4 = 400
[12:20] <sehe> charming innit
[12:26] <tobias> !n8
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <tobias> !gn8
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gn8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <tobias> :/
[12:26] <tobias> good night everyone ;D
[12:26] <tobias> see you around
[12:26] <Level15> tobias: ok, cya
[12:27] <sehe> Sorry, I don't know anything about good night everyone ;D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:27] <sehe> :D
[12:30] <Karti> Hi all, quick script question - If I create a folder with a date eg. 2007-08-18-Backup and its created in a cron job with mkdir $(date -I)-Backup, does anyone know the command to create a tarball file within that newly created folder so I can place my backups in the new folder and not have to move them each night? Many thanks
[12:31] <Level15> Karti: i don't think i understood your question... could you rephrase, please?
[12:31] <sehe> same trick?
[12:32] <sehe> tar czvf $(date -l)-Backup/stuff.tar.gz files....
[12:32] <Level15> sehe: that's why i think i didn't understand correctly...
[12:32] <sehe> lets hear ...
[12:33] <sehe> maybe use a symlink to the 'current' backup folder if you don't want to modify backup scripts
[12:33] <sehe> ln -s $(date -l)-Backup current-backup