=== matysek [n=matysek@33.Red-83-40-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === matysek [n=matysek@33.Red-83-40-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-184-188.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === \x6e\x65\x72\x64 [n=gaucho@201-66-204-220.smace700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:59] when running gutsy and compiz-fusion how much memory does it use up for you guys? Mines 17.4MB === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@213.251.133.67] has joined #ubuntu+1 === djennewe [n=djennewe@71-221-54-143.sxfl.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:07] fsckr: you would be better off asking in #ubuntu-effects === MetaBot [n=metabot@unaffiliated/ljl/bot/metabot] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@60.53.36.90] has joined #ubuntu+1 === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:38] I is there a package for google earth? [01:40] Instabin: I dont think so [01:42] lol I just got an update and the only 2 things in there [01:42] command-not-found and command-not-found-data [01:42] lol === soul9 [i=Nil@gateway/tor/x-62f248512351d472] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@60.52.15.113] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kiba [n=kiba@adsl-215-248-60.aep.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF0FE9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:48] I am having problem with /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-plugin-gnash_0.8.1~trunk.070802-0ubuntu4_i386.deb [01:50] and what is the problem? [01:50] it doesn't install and keep all the other packages from upgrading [01:50] what is the error? [01:50] are you using gutsy? [01:50] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [01:50] sould9: yes [01:50] it been like that for days [01:50] now [01:51] I am unable to upgrade my system [01:51] paste the whole error to [01:51] !paste > kiba [01:51] !paste [01:51] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [01:52] working on it.. [01:53] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34130/ [01:58] kiba, so you'll need to try and edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-plugin-gnash.postinst [01:59] but I'm not sure it'll work, as I think those are always overwritten [01:59] worth a try tho [01:59] can you paste that file to the same place === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:02] got to go === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === bipolar_ [n=bflong@216-164-162-138.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === iblicf_ [n=iblicf@125.34.27.128] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Acanar [n=wjluelf@74-132-142-74.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === iblicf_ [n=iblicf@125.34.27.128] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:36] shouldn't "sudo update-manager -c -d" give me the option to upgrade from Feisty to Gibbon? === muelli [n=Muelli@rzdspc10.informatik.uni-hamburg.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:37] where can I actually set the number of workspaces? === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-146.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:40] What is the correct way to upgrade from Feisty to Gibbon? I've read about changing "feisty" to "gibbon" in /etc/apt/sources.list but i'm not sure thats the right way to do it. [02:49] Acanar: the update-manager should do the trick [02:49] update-manager -d -c or the like [02:49] Acanar, it's "feisty fawn" and "gutsy gibbon" [02:49] so if you were going to do it manually, you'd put "gutsy" [02:50] i'm trying it (sudo update-manager -c -d) and I get the same window as if I run update-manager with no flags. it says I don't have any updates and doesn't say anything about gutsy gibbon [02:52] am I correct in assuming the update-manager method would be safer than manualy changing my sources.list? [02:52] well Acanar. more or less. I think it doesn't do anything else though... === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:54] does it mean anything that my terminal says "current dist not found in meta-release file" in my terminal? I think I'll just download tribe 4 and reinstall. This is a new install of feisty anyway === emet [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-146.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kiba [n=kiba@adsl-219-225-184.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:06] hello === kiba lost track of what he supposed to do... [03:07] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34130/ [03:11] if anybody can help me, please respond.. === fignew [n=fig@user-1121eo7.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-146.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qwertymnbvc_ [n=gaucho@201-66-204-121.smace700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === u^B [n=allberto@124.82.35.104] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CyberSlug [n=themadha@ppp121-44-0-224.lns4.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compwiz18 [n=adam18@125.34.248.69] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:29] Hello everyone! In my ubuntu gutsy, after upgrading my system a while ago (cannot exactly remember how long now - but the current package lists have not fixed it), none of my USB devices automount [03:29] kiba, Could you pastebin your /var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-plugin-gnash.postinst === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:29] any ideas? [03:30] kiba, And have you filed a bug yet, or checked if one has already been filed? [03:31] no [03:31] kiba, Please do [03:31] report a bug :/ [03:32] kiba, Check first, but yes [03:33] oh, meh [03:33] Has anyone else experienced my problem? There is a bug filed in launchpad, but there does not seem to be much response there, and I have not heard much from anyone else about it [03:33] kiba: can you pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/mozilla-plugin-gnash.postinst ? [03:33] I am [03:33] !paste [03:33] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:33] !paste > kiba [03:34] kiba, Looks like a bug has already been filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/131864 [03:34] Launchpad bug 131864 in gnash "gnash crash! ...gnash 0.8.1~trunk.070802-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:35] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34135/ [03:36] any workaround? === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-39-244.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:38] kiba: fix the postinst. [03:38] easy === allbert [n=allberto@60.53.34.149] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jacob [n=jacobmp@ubuntu/member/jacob] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-146.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:41] uh how? [03:41] I am not familiar with the syntax [03:43] the bash doesnt validate [03:43] sorry, dash [03:44] Hobbsee, Shame on the Ubuntu devs having a Bashism [03:45] Unless that's completely upstream, in which case shame on upstream / Debian === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-249-71-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:45] Jordan_U: doesnt look like a bashism to me [03:46] but that shell script...i dont know enough shell to fix it [03:46] Hobbsee, Oh, I havn't actually looked at it, I assumed that is what you meant [03:47] kiba: oh, read the bottom of the bug [03:47] it's fixed now [03:47] just upgrade now? [03:48] you'll need to remove it manually [03:48] ok [03:48] removing the postinstall thingie [03:48] where "it' is the package, === kiba is done [03:49] did I do something just bad right now? [03:49] if you followed the steps told in the bug report, no [03:49] if you just removed the postinst, and didnt follow the instructions in the bug report...yes. [03:50] yes [03:50] I did [03:50] cool [03:51] cool? [03:51] not so cool man! [03:52] kiba, Did you follow the instructions or did you remove the file? [03:52] just remove the file [03:52] why? === Hobbsee notes that when given an "either or" question, the correct answer is NOT yes. [03:53] Hobbsee: well, yess is just saying that one of the two is correct... [03:54] ameyer: indeed. which is useless. === kiba_ [n=kiba@adsl-219-225-184.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:54] particularly if one wants more help === kiba_ accidently quit === chrisle [n=chris@e178086077.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:54] [11:52] just remove the file [03:54] [11:52] why? [03:54] [11:53] * Hobbsee notes that when given an "either or" question, the correct answer is NOT yes. [03:54] [11:53] Hobbsee: well, yess is just saying that one of the two is correct... [03:54] [11:54] ameyer: indeed. which is useless. === kiba_ lost the links again [03:55] yeah, it is [03:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/131864 [03:56] Launchpad bug 131864 in gnash "gnash crash! ...gnash 0.8.1~trunk.070802-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Fix released] [03:56] Hobbsee, Removing the file will probably work also, all the script does is run update-alternatives, the rest isn't needed if you do that manually [03:56] Hobbsee, Though he should probably put it back as per the bug report anyways [03:56] Jordan_U: "if" [03:57] Jordan_U: the "if you do that manually" part is the important part there [03:57] Jordan_U: your'e right, whether the postinst is there or not wont matter for the next upgrade, as the new package will just add the postinst again === fignew [n=fig@user-1121eo7.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:59] kiba_, Re-make the file from your paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34135/ then follow the fix in the comments of the bug report === xeternal [n=x@218.80.154.13] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:01] link to bug report [04:02] please.. [04:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnash/+bug/131864 [04:02] Launchpad bug 131864 in gnash "gnash crash! ...gnash 0.8.1~trunk.070802-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,Fix released] [04:05] thanks dude [04:06] fixed already eh [04:06] yes [04:06] was fixed on teh 12th [04:09] for several days... === kiba_ is lazy === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-93-195.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:17] hmm [04:17] the instruction for it is rusty [04:18] then there also the issue of an unmet depedency :( [04:22] which one? === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.5.211] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] /var/cache/apt/archives/libmtp6_0.2.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb === kiba_ is depressed [04:27] that why I shouldn't run experimental software [04:27] kiba_: I was going to say the same thing, good I'm not the only one way who is having issues with the upgrade [04:27] libmpt6 not being able to be installed hence rythmbox is not configured properly [04:28] testers make life easier for the rest of us [04:28] lol [04:28] ? [04:28] thats also why we run multiple packages that do any given task~! [04:28] if rythmbox is not treating you right try quod libet [04:28] if you dont like that check out listen [04:28] if not that amarock might do it for you [04:29] kiba_: well, yes... [04:29] and as a last resort there is always banshee :> [04:29] didn't know there is/was a package called quod libet === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-249-71-134.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:29] [plus thats why i have seperate feisty and gutsy installs :>] [04:29] lunchpad is not Free software [04:29] I am disappointed [04:29] btw Hobbsee if ppl hollah about firefox bugs make sure they are on default theme. [04:29] and i mean ubuntu default theme not firefox's [04:29] lol [04:29] kiba_: A part of it had recently been made open source [04:30] kiba, But neither is sourceforge :) === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-057.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:30] right [04:30] kiba, And they do plan on making it open source [04:30] someday open source will lost its meaning as it become marketingspeak [04:31] s/lost/lose [04:31] kiba_: if you're not wanting breakage, you shouldnt be running gutsy yet [04:31] kiba_: besidse, i've fixed the libmtp stuff [04:31] Hobbsee: breakage is part of life for experimental softwares [04:31] shirish: uh? which part? [04:31] I want to run the latest and greatest [04:31] kiba, Try Archlinux :) [04:31] kiba_: indeed, which is why you need to be able to follow bug reports, and instructions on fixing things === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-146.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:32] kiba: how big is your hdd? actually whats you partition setup like? [04:32] kiba_: oh, and to not say things like "there is an unmet dependancy". [04:32] Hobbsee: hang on, it was on announcements, about a month back, if needed can google it & let you guys know [04:32] kiba_: seeing as there are 102 packages not installable due to them. [04:33] shirish: oh, not landscape, the other one [04:33] I run Debian unstable for a long time [04:33] shirish: yeah, i remember which one you mean [04:33] shirish, It was CSCVS [04:33] every once in a while, someone put a wench into my system [04:33] it was not fun but I don't want to run old softwares [04:33] Hobsee: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/storm-python-orm-open-sourced [04:34] shirish: ah yes, that's the one [04:34] shirish: and tab is your friend [04:34] kiba, Have you tried a distro with rolling releases? [04:34] like gentoo? [04:35] Or Archlinux <3 [04:35] nosrednaekim, But yes [04:36] Hobbsee: when did you fix the libmpt6 stuff? === jimmacdonald [n=jim@138-212-223-66.gci.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:37] shirish: about an hour ago? [04:37] Hobbsee: ok, then its gonna take time to come out to the various mirrors I guess [04:38] yeah, couple of hours [04:38] you can just force overwrite it, though [04:38] Hobbsee: nah, I would wait for it === ajmorris_ [n=ajmorris@220-253-151-146.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:56] vrv [04:56] brb === kiba_ feel like fixing it tommorow === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.85.219] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === |Assid| [n=assid@59.165.14.35] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:00] <|Assid|> back === Assid [n=assid@unaffiliated/assid] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:02] okay [05:02] so [05:02] anyone got any updates on how to print on gutsy? [05:02] cups doesnt seem to like mr [05:02] me [05:04] Assid: there is something called system-config-printer, have you installed it? And did you update it/upgrade it, there have been some updates couple of hrs. back also. [05:05] Assid: while I don't have access to a printer atm, there is a spec. which I could give a re-direct you so you know what's going on [05:05] hrmm k.. one sec.. lemme update adept [05:05] lets see what it says [05:05] wish i checked it earlier.. now my line is only 256kbit [05:07] Assid: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter that has all the blueprints on printing [05:07] Assid: he is the main developer/maintainer who does all printing stuff (I guess) at ubuntu atleast on gutsy === kiba_ will fixed his installation tommorow [05:08] hrmm k [05:08] kiba: what installation? [05:09] my linux distro [05:09] hrmm [05:09] k [05:09] Assid: I'm going off to do my daily business, but if you are new here, I would suggest you look at the blueprint, there would be link to the wiki where each of the idea behind it is explained in greater detail so you know how each component works with another. If you still have some issues, hang around here, somebody would guide you for sure. [05:09] which managed to catch bugs from gusty update [05:09] gnash problems and stuff [05:09] also unmet depeendency stuff :( [05:10] kiba_: both are old news, there is a thread in ubuntu forums, look at development corner about gnash issues [05:10] shirish: why would i need the blueprints? [05:10] Assid: there has been some changes in how things work, I don't claim to understand or haven't tried it but do know some changes have happened. [05:11] one sec.. im gonna try and see if my 2mbit account is still active so i can quickly update === shirish out === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.5.211] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving."] [05:11] shirish: ok.. will see what i cna get .. thanks [05:11] shirish: but I don't follow news === Hobbsee notes that the forums are not a great place for getting information, as people have a tendancy to report it wrong [05:15] yeah... use IRC chat logs ;) [05:20] they are more up to date, yes [05:20] mailing list posts on development lists arent bad either [05:21] gutsy-changes is also useful [05:23] and of course bug reports... [05:24] true === konam [n=konam@69stb68.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:32] is that true that compizfusion will not be default on gutsy? I just read it this morning. I know that you guys want to get into the default-3D-desktop bandwagon but compizfusion is not ready yet. Is not our fault, is the fault of the hardware manufacturers and their close source drivers/specifications. If compiz is not ready we don't have a reason to ship it, not by default at least. If this move turn out to be wrong it will tarnish the ubuntu nam [05:32] e and just for a 'whim' like this. my 2 cents. [05:36] see the ubuntu-devel mailing list [05:39] Hobbsee I just wanted to give my opinion, I wasn't expecting an answer === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-41.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Assid [n=assid@unaffiliated/assid] has joined #ubuntu+1 === poningru_ [n=poningru@pool-72-64-214-110.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:57] Hobbsee, how bad would it be to let libmtp6 overwrite that /etc/udev/rules.d/libmtp.rules ? === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1D0C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === darkstar61 [n=darkstar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu+1 === darkstar61 [n=darkstar@213-140-6-100.ip.fastwebnet.it] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [06:10] masterloki: not at all, i dont think === jimmacdonald [n=jim@unaffiliated/jimmacdonald] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@60.53.34.149] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip70-177-204-60.hr.hr.cox.net] has 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-ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-ops] Welcome to #ubuntu-ops - Home of the operators for official K/X/Ed/Ubuntu channels. Questions, requests and complaints about Ubuntu related channels and their people can be filed here" === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Topic for #ubuntu+1: The In Development Version Channel | Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Ubuntu 7.10 - the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 4 released! === Topic (#ubuntu+1): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 9 16:02:44 2007 [10:39] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu+1] Please read the topic. Especially if things are broken! === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-164-94-246.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:48] haha, <3 wikipedia truthyness... apparently the first Ubuntu release based on Etch will have SELinux... [10:48] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELinux#Implementations [10:48] sorry, that's probably somewhat offtopic... === Skiessi [n=qwe@dsl-roibrasgw1-fe88fb00-133.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.22.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === badders [n=tom@86.154.72.139] has joined #ubuntu+1 === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:06] eq any idea where i can get the source for the uvcvideo module? [11:06] ti have apatch that should make it work on santarosa === compwiz18 [n=adam18@125.34.248.69] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:15] :( [11:20] jscinoz: the kernel? [11:21] not the whole thing just the module [11:21] anyways ill be back later gtg dinner [11:22] thanks for all the help [11:22] you'd need to get the kernel source [11:23] unless it's a 3rd party module, which is unlikely === ionstorm [n=ion@70-58-119-6.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claria [n=aem@dslb-084-057-145-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:27] hm [11:28] azureus freezes completely when i try adding a new torrent to it [11:28] has anyone seen this in gusty? [11:29] i dont use azureus [11:29] do you get any errer messages ? [11:30] do you see anything in log files ? [11:32] i dont see any error messages [11:32] and i dont know where to look for the log files [11:32] i just know that whatever way i try loading a new torrent file, it freezes permanently [11:33] then i restart it, and it's back to normal [11:37] azures gives me some trouble on gutsy too [11:37] double clicking a torrent to see more info about it crashes it === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:38] i have problems with slow with slow non responsive gnome-games on kubuntu === dadchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-231-37.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Lappy [n=george@82.198.29.49.satgate.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dystopianray [n=dystopia@203-213-54-54-syd-ts2-2600.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:40] how can i install the restricted-modules-2.6.22.3 ? === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:46] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmtp6_0.2.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/etc/udev/rules.d/libmtp.rules', which is also in package libmtp5 [11:47] is there a fix for this [11:47] or how do I rcover libmtp4 === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip70-181-154-127.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:50] is tribe 5 delayed? [11:50] masterloki: I used dpkg to remove libmtp5 and then the upgrade worked. [11:50] masterloki: i removed 5, and installed 6 === kakaruto [n=lloyd@122.2.27.238] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:52] is there A howto that I can follow on how to remove it === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:53] is it true that compiz is going to be implemented in gutsy? [11:56] !schedule [11:56] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [11:58] thanks Does Ooo on gutsy doesn`t work on you as it on mine x86-64 installation? [12:08] i think you need to install openoffice.org-gnome === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:08] will check it out. Thanks. === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:11] Nope, no change Ooo still dont start [12:11] do you get an error message ? [12:12] ** (process:7623): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ... [12:13] when I start oowiter from console [12:16] nikolam: could it be this bug ? http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80539 [12:16] OpenOffice.org bug 80539 in framework "bad gtk initialization causes hang on glib 2.13.x gtk 2.11.x" [Defect,Closed: worksforme] === twosouls82 [n=twosouls@cc100614-b.assen1.dr.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:18] what changed in the font setup (from Feisty to Gutsy)? My fonts look horrible... subpixel rendering is turned on nowadays? [12:18] I duuno, I am runing fresh updated tribe3 xubuntu, Ooo dont start [12:19] It seem it is that bug and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/127944 [12:19] Launchpad bug 127944 in openoffice.org "[gutsy] Open Office applications don't start " [High,Confirmed] [12:19] OK :) === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:21] nikolam: on the page of the bug report seems to be a solution to your problem too [12:21] +there =) [12:21] Ok, i am happy enough that Bug exists. [12:22] Thank you! === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-184-188.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-004.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SimIJskes [n=sim@nyx.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === SimIJskes [n=sim@nyx.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === Nicke [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mendred [n=mendred@59.93.70.115] has joined #ubuntu+1 === iblicf_ [n=iblicf@125.34.27.128] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:55] yeah OOo wont start for me either, I posted a bug update a few days ago [12:57] its been that way now and started just before tribe 3 === fiveiron [n=fiveiron@74-137-162-129.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:57] s/way/way for a few weeks/ [12:58] Konqueror still crashes on flash sites too [12:58] ff is fine [12:59] with now and again crashes that seem to be related to java/flash heavy web sites [01:00] ktorrent crashes when you try clear a download after it is complete if you have a few downloads running === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:01] hardware though seems fine accept glx wont load for me for some stupid reason so no 3D [01:01] this is on stock a stock intel machine with a nvidia card [01:02] s/stock// === compwiz18 [n=adam18@125.34.248.69] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:04] those bugs you listed seem pretty common [01:04] my ooo wont start either [01:04] my opera freezese all the time with flash content (which after the freeze wont even display) [01:04] and azureus freezes permanently when trying to add a torrent file [01:04] so java and flash have serious problems [01:07] I noticed though the shutdown last night was ultra fast, I though something had broken [01:07] thought* [01:08] so I tried it again, yep it was that fast [01:09] the startup is faster than windows XP for me (even makes OSX look a bit slow) === Assid [n=assid@unaffiliated/assid] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:10] Do``: yeah Java/Flash is a pain [01:11] adept has stopped crashing [01:12] I just read that Opera seems to have the same issue with flash as Konqueror is having [01:12] well opera doesnt crash per say [01:13] but every embedded flash object causes a 30-40 second freeze [01:13] and after that it's replaced by a grey box [01:13] Konqi keeps looping on something :( [01:14] its not konqueror per se its the plugin manager, check "top" (or ksysguard) you will see what I mean === twosouls82 hurts his cpu again === dennda [n=dennda@ubuntu/member/dennda] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:15] wtf 6 instances of it === chrisle [n=chris@e178108006.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Happu [i=ilkka@166-82.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:28] is anyone experiensing problems with samsung DVD-RW driver on gusty? [01:28] mine doesn't mount === DrColossus [n=blah@220-245-203-87-wa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DrColossus [n=blah@220-245-203-87-wa-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@85-250-131-48.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:47] wtf [01:47] firefox crrashing like crazy [01:48] are these bold fonts normal? === dennda just installed gutsy. [01:49] large fonts, tiny icons [01:50] hey guys [01:51] trying to get my webcam working under gutsy, and i need to install a patched uvcvideo, i've installed it but if i modprobe uvcvideo i get "FATAL: Error inserting uvcvideo (/lib/modules/2.6.22-9-generic/ubuntu/media/usbvideo/uvcvideo.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter" and dmesg returns "uvcvideo: Unknown symbol v4l_compat_ioctl32" what should i do? [01:54] err gdm doesn't accept TAB any longer ;) === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.141.36.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:02] jscinoz: that didn't work for my audio :( [02:02] hmm [02:02] maybe the soundcards different === Eq|laptop blames the sigmatel chipset [02:02] yeah [02:02] but it worked on my santa rosa laptop [02:02] Does gutsy utilize compiz fusion by default? (or is it normal compiz / beryl?) [02:02] there seem to be 4-6 different chipsets used for audio on the santa rosa boards [02:02] yes. [02:03] have you done depmod -a since you replaced the uvcvideo module jscinoz? [02:03] no letm e do one now [02:03] Eq|laptop: Was your "yes." intended to answer my question? [02:03] blast your logic [02:04] dennda: yes. [02:04] jscinoz: working? [02:04] dennda, Yes, compiz fusion is the default [02:04] Eq|laptop: thanks [02:04] well the driver installed gotta test [02:04] Where's the compiz-fusion settings dialog? [02:04] What was it's package name? [02:04] you have to install it.. [02:04] do a search for compiz [02:04] god damnit [02:04] if you're using gnome, you can get some basic settings from GLDesktop [02:04] still doesnt work even with patched driver [02:04] far easier to use than the full settings manager [02:04] but doesn't do as much [02:04] heh [02:04] typical mate [02:05] right, i'm going to play some guild wars. [02:05] bbl [02:05] Eq|laptop: doesn't find any "settings manager" [02:05] dennda: do a search for compiz - it's there [02:05] ah now it doeas [02:05] sorry for the mezz [02:05] mess [02:05] heh === ninnghizidha [n=ninnghiz@chello084112032164.1.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kekZpriester [n=luc@DSL01.212.114.236.229.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === compengi [n=compengi@77.42.178.80] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Amendt [n=Amendt@64.42.235.130] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-065.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === runge [n=runge@c-3edce255.215-5-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Asd [n=ali@83.72.4.134.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:21] Hi [02:21] How do i get ubuntu 7.10? === Asd [n=ali@83.72.4.134.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:22] ... === Asd [n=ali@83.72.4.134.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:22] Sorry [02:22] Asd: if you have to ask, you shouldnt be running it. [02:22] Asd: 7.10 doesnt exist yet [02:23] I have downloaded and installed ubuntu [02:23] I want to get the newest package [02:23] Hobbsee, that makes me a bit hesitatnt to ask about my problem when trying to upgrade [02:23] In Debian i just change it to unstable [02:23] I get Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/commercial/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [02:23] Asd: it breaks. you dont want to run it [02:23] runge: disable that repo, it hasnt been updated for gutsy yet [02:23] Asd: 7.10 is not ready to be used [02:23] I just want the newest packages... [02:23] Hobbsee, ah thanks! [02:23] runge: no problem [02:23] Asd: and the breakage? [02:24] Asd: if youare running 7.04 you have the newest packages [02:24] Hmm ok [02:24] Hobbsee, being a tad filosofical, do one not need lots of alfa and beta testing to get a good product? [02:25] Asd: 7.10 will be released in 2 months wait till it is ready [02:25] runge, But those testers need to know what they are getting into, and be willing and able to report bugs [02:25] Good.. [02:25] runge: one does, but one also needs those people testing to file good bugs about it, and not require a huge lot of support (which will clog up other resources), and stop those users providing support, from filing bugs. [02:26] yeah I guess you both have good points [02:26] runge: as in, if we have 40 bugs about the same package not installing, clearly our testing audience is dodgy, and should learn to search first. [02:26] runge: yes but you want beta testers who understand the risk of running a "Unstable" OS [02:26] runge: incidently, a few people had to go and mark all of those bugs as dupes, which was a waste of time. [02:26] Is it now basically set in stone that no feature freeze exception will be made for Xorg 7.3 ? [02:27] hopefully I will be of more good then harm. though no promises.. === phoenix_ [n=phoenix@83.101.13.16] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:27] http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=45&CatID=3270&SubCatID=167 [02:27] is the a newer version of this driver ? === Anlar [n=miersale@unaffiliated/anlar] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:27] Jordan_U: no. but most of the stuff will be in by then [02:27] phoenix_, you'll have to explain your problem again, and try to put it all on one line this time [02:28] via vt8251 sata chipset not detected [02:28] Hobbsee, Xorg 7.3 was what I was most looking foreword to in Gutsy, it would be a shame not to ship with it [02:28] Jordan_U: i would expect we do [02:29] Jordan_U, any big new thing in xorg 7.3? [02:29] when it's released [02:29] i load alternate install cd and it gets to detect the hdd .. says none found and i cant find the correct feisty driver elkbuntu [02:29] found a dapper one but diff kernel >> link above [02:29] phoenix_: would this happen to be a daily cd? [02:29] nop [02:29] alternate feisty [02:29] Hobbsee, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xorg7.3 [02:30] phoenix_: then you're in the wrong channel. #ubuntu [02:30] this is *gutsy* only [02:30] i wanne try gutsy [02:30] but same problem [02:30] runge, Much less reliance on xorg.conf, support for hotplugging monitors. [02:30]