=== Evergete [n=Evergete@host244-48-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu [12:38] how can i get a list of my usb devices and thier uris [12:43] lsusb === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-21-35.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === axelm7 [n=rojocapo@160-217-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu [12:54] hello, I am installing xubuntu 7.0.4 right now. I have checked that the CD media is ok, and after starting the installation, it says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. Then it takes me to a busybox prompt and does not continue. [12:54] what should I try next? install in safe text mode? [12:55] on the bottom of the screen it says (initramfs) and I get a prompt there [01:03] now I get a kernel panic :( === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [01:10] my installation has aborted === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:11] it says "checking file systems" [FAILED] [01:11] __tzfile_read: Assertion 'num_types == 1' failed [01:12] an then the installer goes into maintenance mode and i get a bash prompt [01:12] wtf is wrong? [01:12] do i have to start with noacpi nousb or something like that? [01:13] try acpi=off [01:13] where should I put that? on the grub command line? [01:14] didi the install complete? or is this while trying to install? [01:14] while it was trying to start in safe graphics mode [01:15] i did not reach the part where it gives me the option to install === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp158-241.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] then restart the installer....hit [esc[ then type live acpi=off if using the live [01:16] now I am starting again, but I pressed F6 and added acpi=off to the boot options [01:17] it is trying to read from the floppy drive all the time [01:17] live cd? [01:17] crap, failed again, busybox prompt [01:17] livecd [01:18] i am downloading alternate cd just in case [01:18] how much ram? [01:18] 128 === silvertip257 [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/silvertip257] has joined #xubuntu [01:18] i'll try the escape key [01:19] im not sure you can run the live cd with that little ram [01:19] ok, now it is booting in text mode [01:19] is there a channel I should join to talk to any devs ? [01:20] #xubuntu-devel [01:20] ok thanks [01:20] damn, graphics mode again, how do I get it to boot in text mode ONLY [01:21] you DONT [01:21] its a live cd...not the altcd [01:21] ;) [01:22] aborted again. any other boot command I should try? live acpi=off... [01:22] vidd: are you a dev? === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:22] no...throw that live cd in the trash [01:22] silvertip257, no [01:22] you need the alt [01:22] vidd: ok ... seems like no one is there [01:22] I'll keep it just in case ;) [01:23] but i will burn the alt cd and try again [01:23] axelm7: burn it at a slow speed -- as slow as 4x if you can!!! === vidd always uses the mini isp [01:23] ? [01:23] *iso [01:23] oh [01:23] what's that? [01:24] gets everything off the internet [01:24] oh netinstall ? [01:24] the image is <10 meg [01:24] xubuntu has one ? [01:24] do the rest ? [01:25] vidd ^^ [01:25] it is agnostic...will install xubuntu, ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, LAMP, DNS, and minimal [01:25] where did ya get it? [01:26] you can dig it up in the archives...or just get it from my downloads page http://www.vidd.us/downloads [01:27] who made it? ;) [01:27] ubunti did [01:27] did you mean to put an "i" there? [01:27] no === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.155.126] has joined #xubuntu [01:27] k [01:28] silvertip, the media is fine, it is passing the media check [01:28] ok good axel [01:28] vidd: in the archives? [01:29] how come they dont make it obvious to people? I have never found it or heard of it [01:29] yeah... archives.ubuntu.com [01:29] who knows? i think it is the best thing ever [01:29] yes I agree [01:30] i even dug up the gutsy version [01:30] vidd: idk where to look [01:31] no "s" by the way [01:33] did you look @ my page? [01:34] but I wanna know where it came from ;P === lokadin_1 [n=loki@216-154-18-82.dsl.look.ca] has left #xubuntu [] [01:35] crap, I hate old obsolete hardware. The RAM on this machine is probably bad, or the IDE controller or the IDE cable. I am getting all sorts of weird errors [01:35] silvertip257, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [01:36] thank you very much - interesting [01:37] ah nice I'm going to book mark that - neato, too bad it doesn't seem more obvious from the ubuntu page [01:38] and gutsy.....http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ [01:40] yep similar dir path [01:41] i will be periodically updating the image on my page as updates are made [01:41] cool [01:42] with the mini, the kernel version on the disk must match what is in the repo's...otherwise it wont install [01:48] found the problem :) the cd reader was bad. I put another CD reader and it is booting now :) [01:51] it takes FOREVER to boot on this machine from the livecd [01:51] that is because it has to load the entire os in ram [01:51] lol, it is such a lame pc, i am doing this only because it's my father in law's pc. I would have torched this pc otherwise [01:52] a nice bucket of kerosene and a match [01:52] it would be a decent server [01:52] just to make sure nobody else is tortured with this garbage [01:53] i use a p2 333 384mb 80gb as a server here at home [01:53] a p1 is just too old [01:53] all depends on what your using it for [01:54] i can make an 80-386 into a halfway decent printer server! [01:54] openbsd on this machine would work fine as a router [01:54] you've got a P1 still ? [01:54] me 2 [01:54] a garbage hand me down pc [01:54] a couple if the 2nd one still works ;) [01:54] same here [01:55] only thing I could run on it was DSL / puppy [01:55] i also have a p2 333, an athlon xp 2.5 and a inspiron 1200 laptop with 1.25 GB RAM [01:55] nice [01:55] I wanna build one soon - a desktop [01:56] I haven't bought dual core yet for home. I have one at the office and I don't notice that much difference for what I do [01:56] is it your own business ? [01:56] i am a partner there [01:56] ah [01:57] what kind of business? [01:57] fuel retail automation software+hardware+consulting [01:57] I'm trying to learn how to make custom live cds ... anyone wanna help ;) ... (w/o UCK / Reconstructor) [01:57] basically controlling fuel at a service station [01:58] point of sale, payment, credit card transactions, etc [01:58] using what kinda software? [01:58] the customer is using VeriFone Sapphire software [01:59] plus some stuff written by me [01:59] c++ on embedded SOC [02:00] ah [02:01] silvertip, what do u d [02:01] o [02:02] lol I'm still a student [02:02] but I'm working for a credit union doing helpdesk / pcsupport === vidd is an ISP tech support rep [02:03] can u believe the live cd is still booting [02:03] it's been 45 mins [02:03] can anyone direct me 2 someone who knows how to make custom live cds? [02:03] dont surprise me at all [02:04] on a P1 you deserve it! try dsl or puppy maybe ;) [02:04] i hope that once i install it on the hd it boots faster [02:04] axelm7, i WOULD be surprised if the live cd completed booting [02:04] not by much man [02:04] from my personal experience [02:04] the user does not speak english, dsl is not an option [02:05] and he is not computer savy, so forget dsl [02:05] it's a big pain on my p1 w/ decent amnt of ram for the time period [02:05] ok [02:05] dsl isn't that bad ;) [02:05] but you've got a pt [02:05] this pc was booting xp sp2 in under 5 mins [02:05] im telling you....the alt cd is the way to go with that pc [02:06] firefox2 and ie7 were working pretty well, so was windows live messenger [02:06] wow axelm7 ... did you hack it that bad? [02:06] are you sure ... P1 ? [02:06] yup, killed all the useless services [02:06] how much ram -- what specs ? [02:06] oh [02:06] 128 MB [02:06] same as the one i've got [02:06] 8 gn hd [02:07] 8 GB HD [02:07] less on the one 've got [02:07] vidd: do you know how to use "tar" correctly? [02:07] configured the ADSL to act as router so i got rid of the pppoe part [02:07] will you check a phrase for me? [02:07] sure [02:07] ok [02:08] vidd: " tar -zcvfp /mnt/sda1/debian/deb4.0_netinst-base.tar.gz . " ... something can't be right though [02:08] vidd, why do you say the alt cd will boot faster? will the installation from altcd be different then if i install from the live cd? [02:08] installation will be no different [02:08] final OS I mean [02:09] right on the web site: To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install [02:09] vidd: my current dir is a partition I mounted w/ my deb OS - /mnt/hda5 [02:09] trying to untar? [02:10] no create an archive & compress a lil [02:10] am I using the wrong parameter ... z ? ... I forget ugh [02:10] did you man tar ? [02:11] yes [02:11] but looked & nothign [02:11] axelm7, you dont have enough ram to run the live cd [02:11] vidd: it says my path-to-tarfile doesn't exist ... [02:12] vidd, I am waiting for the alt cd to finish downloading. Meanwhile I will let the live CD to continue booting [02:12] bye guys, I am going to have dinner (Spanish seafood) [02:12] silvertip257, did you use tab-completion to get the path to file? [02:12] thanks [02:12] yes vidd ... i love that ! [02:15] vidd: umm ... tell me if I understand it correctly [02:15] one minute [02:16] ok [02:18] tar -cvvf NameForFile.tar /path/to/file (or replace /file with /directory/) === Pablo [n=Pablo@1e.71.d1c4.cidr.airmail.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:21] silvertip257, that work for ya? [02:21] no - well that's what I'm doing [02:22] tar-file /dir/to/be/backedup [02:23] tar -options fileName /dir/to/be/backedUp/ === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177962117.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:25] yes [02:25] you need the "/" at the end if it is a directory you are trying to zip [02:26] if it is a file, then no "/" at the end [02:26] ok [02:26] but if I make a dir my current one then I use a period right? [02:26] no [02:27] what?! [02:27] hmm - can't remember how I did it in my big script a few months ago [02:28] lets say you want to compress /home/vidd/directory/ [02:28] ok [02:28] you can cd to /home/vidd..... [02:29] then tar -cvvf directory.tar directory/ [02:30] or... tar -cvvf directory.tar /home/vidd/directory/ [02:30] oh hmm [02:30] I read somewhere you always have a "." at the end for some reason [02:30] for a script...yeah [02:31] hmm [02:31] ok [02:31] dur that's why maybe [02:31] but that is dependent on the scripting language [02:31] lemme try some small dir [02:35] survey says? [02:36] vidd: why does it say - Cannot stat: No such file or directory ? [02:36] it's referring to my tar file I wanna create [02:37] paste the command you typed [02:37] ok [02:37] tar -zcvfp /mnt/sda1/debian/test.tar.gz /mnt/hda5/bin/ [02:38] it's the "/mnt/sda1/debian/test.tar.gz" that is getting the msg === Chadarius [n=Chadariu@64-135-218-34.FoxValley.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:39] tar cannot make a .tar.gz file [02:39] vidd how come? [02:40] vidd: here's my ref for this stuff - just found my bookmark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR [02:40] the .gz comes from running gzip on the tar file [02:40] yes [02:41] you might want to cd to /mnt/sda1/debian [02:42] then run sudo tar -cvvf test.tar /mnt/hda5/bin [02:42] ok [02:42] you need sudo because there are root owned files in /bin [02:42] then run sudo tar -cvvf test.tar /mnt/hda5/bin/ [02:43] dont forget the / at the end! [02:43] nothing in that dir now .. [02:43] wasn't before either [02:43] nothing in the /bin/ dir? [02:43] no [02:43] nothing in the /mnt/sda1/debian (backup dir) [02:43] no WONDER you are having issues! [02:44] oh [02:44] huh? [02:44] does the directory exist? [02:44] yes [02:44] i have my ext drive mounted & that dir is on it [02:44] ok...cd to the dir where you want the tar to end up... [02:44] ok i'm there [02:45] run sudo tar -cvvf test.tar /mnt/hda5/bin/ [02:45] yup that' swhat i'm doing ... i will try once mroe [02:45] *more [02:45] why cvvf ? [02:45] instead of -zcvfp ? [02:45] those are the options i always use, and it never fails === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp158-241.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] [02:46] oh [02:46] i dont know what -z and -p are for [02:46] but i know you need 2 v's [02:46] cannot stat the test file [02:46] test.tar.gz [02:47] vidd: z is for gzip compression and p is to preserve permissions [02:47] are you still putting .gz at the end? [02:47] yes [02:47] the -z is for UNtar'ing [02:47] ooops [02:47] no X is [02:48] lose the -z [02:48] but maybe since it's giving me that error ... [02:48] and the .gz === kennyjb402 [n=kennyjb4@pool-72-94-73-18.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:48] z - compress the backup file with 'gzip' to make it smaller [02:49] better to just run gzip on if after it actually works [02:49] will try w/o it [02:49] no luck [02:49] are you including the sudo? [02:50] I'm root [02:50] ! [02:50] well I sudo-ed [02:50] do you have write permissions on the drive you are righting to? [02:51] how do I check that? [02:51] I'm root though .. [02:52] but if /mnt/sda1/debian/ is read only...it dont matter WHO you are...GOD cant write on a read-only file system [02:52] ughh [02:52] ok how do I check that? / change it? [02:53] open it in thunar (or your file manager of choice) and check it's permissions [02:53] ok [02:54] if it is mounted in RO, you need to UMOUNT it and re mount it in RW mode [02:55] ok eerrrr RO [02:55] f-ck d-mmit [02:56] so it's read only? [02:56] vidd: thank you for being so patient and not yet killing me for that [02:57] will now try it [02:57] so maybe your options will work! [02:57] its just different from my method [02:58] i hope so ... >:O [02:58] well the light on my ext-drive is flashing, so it must be writing [02:59] that is promising [03:00] but it did it the last time on one of the methods.. === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.81.80.130] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] yeah...but it didnt fail yet [03:01] THAT is what is promising! [03:01] right === ron_o [n=me@12-210-182-253.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B971EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === jikuty [n=em@CPE001195752c87-CM00111ade8af2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-153-100-65.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu === tripppy [i=polarisx@c210-49-97-52.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [03:19] silvertip257, did it take? === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B971EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:19] still working [03:19] ;) [03:19] but no error [03:20] then with that...good night === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch === michaelpo [n=presario@124.82.39.160] has joined #xubuntu === Clint_ [n=kf6aaq@adsl-074-182-174-230.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-244-120.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:29] looks like yes vidd [03:29] lemme run the -t param on it [03:29] let's look it up first ;) [03:39] vidd: do you inventory your tar files with -t at all ? 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[10:58] hyper_ch: no [10:58] hyper_ch: I'm here [10:58] you're the rTorrent pro right? [10:58] no [10:58] TheSheep: I thought you're using it [10:59] hyper_ch: well yes, from time to time [10:59] hyper_ch: but I don't play with it [10:59] TheSheep: oh ok... I just had a small look at it and a few questions still remain unanswered :) I thought you may help [11:00] hyper_ch: if not me, then maybe someone else [11:00] !ask | hyper_ch [11:00] hyper_ch: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [11:00] TheSheep: :) anyway, I just added for testing reasons a torrent that I share... [11:00] TheSheep: I didn't start downloading but then exited rTorrent... restarted it... but it was not listed anymore... why so? [11:01] question2: is there a way to select only certain files from the torrent to download and not all of them? [11:01] question3: can you create new torrents with rtorrent - if so, how? [11:02] question4: is there a way to say where the files should be saved to? Like not all into the same directory? === Gabz [n=gabriel@dsl-202-173-185-172.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [11:03] is there a smaller browsers than firefox... it loads too slow for xubuntu ? [11:04] Gabz: epiphany [11:04] kazehakase [11:04] lynx (command line) [11:05] lynx hmm something with a gui still would be nice [11:05] the other two are gui [11:05] Gabz: opra, dillo [11:05] Gabz: opera I mean [11:06] Gabz: open synaptic and search for "browser" and you will be presented quite a few [11:06] maybe even swiftfox? [11:06] yeah but since i was after something small i figured i would ask to so i have a better starting point [11:07] i'll have to install acouple and see which loads fastests [11:07] hyper_ch: I don't know the answers, I know you can download single files with rtorrent for sure, but never tried, I think you can change the place where the file is going to be saved, but don't know how either. You can configure the default saving directory in the config file. [11:08] TheSheep: yeah, saw that about the default saving directory :) btw, where are the .torrent files being stored? [11:08] TheSheep: oh... stupid question... I was jus thinking of ktorrent again ;) === Gabz [n=gabriel@dsl-202-173-185-172.nsw.westnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] [11:09] hyper_ch: I'm sure their website has some docs === OwdGitRon [n=ron@88-109-245-0.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [11:09] TheSheep: I'll have a look at it :) [11:10] so, I need to put now stuff into boxes :( [11:10] hyper_ch: moving, eh? [11:11] TheSheep: yeah [11:11] TheSheep: moving sux... but the new appartment is great ;) [11:12] hyper_ch: gotta run for the bus, see you tomorrow [11:12] hyper_ch: good luck with moving [11:13] TheSheep: thx and cya === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@AC9F85BF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [11:38] hi, I have just finished installing xubuntu 7.04. What is the best graphical package manager? I am not used to Debian style distributions, since I am a Fedora user. === archypetro [n=bleh@85.92.179.168] has joined #xubuntu [11:41] axelm7, synaptic, imho [11:41] axelm7: synaptic it is... but the command line is very simple to and allows you to write auto-downlaod and install script [11:42] axelm7: that makes a reinstall quite quick ;) [11:44] this pc is for my father in law, updates have to be automatic and package installs have to be graphical [11:45] the easiest way (for dummies, i think) is to go to system > add remove, is more semplified than synaptic [11:46] I have to say that on this old pc with 128 MB RAM, xp sp2 runs faster than xubuntu. I have not disactivated the unnecessary services yet, maybe that's my prob === nikolam [n=nikola@adsl-209-226.eunet.yu] has joined #xubuntu [11:56] I activated compositing just to see what would happen and now the system locks up when it boots. Numlock is not working, ctrl alt backspace is not working. Is there a safe mode? === Evergete [n=Evergete@host244-48-dynamic.8-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp226-8.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === xBill [n=dario@p5494EFF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:59] ok, after about an hour of using xubuntu 7.04 on a very low end machine, I have to say that xp sp2 runs much faster on this hardware [01:01] I can see firefox-bin using 45% cpu and xfce-taskmanager using 16-24%. These are constant values [01:04] axelm7: just install a few things on xp and it will crawl [01:07] I am not defending xp at all, I am just giving my feedback [01:07] this same machine was running xp with ie7 and firefox. www surfing was reasonable. on xubuntu it is not [01:08] I don't know if adobe flash plugin is eating way too much cpu [01:09] xfce-taskmanager is always at 20-50% cpu. what is this process? a message dispatcher in xfce? [01:09] axelm7: I'm just saying if you install the same amount of stuff that you get with xubuntu then xp is slower ;) [01:09] maybe I can reduce the amount of eye candy (?) to make screen rendering faster [01:10] axelm7: man xfce-taskmanager [01:11] lol, xfce-taskmanager is the task that is showing me how much cpu each process is consuming. === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@217.80.175.119] has joined #xubuntu [01:12] hi [01:12] axelm7: I would use "top" or "htop" [01:13] OculusAquilae: hiho, did it work with the theme/style? === Jesta [n=Thomas_G@CPE-124-190-91-74.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] g'day Jesta [01:13] X is eating up to 50% CPU. I guess that copying bytes for the frame buffer is slow [01:13] hey [01:14] Jesta: Adelaide? [01:14] melbourne [01:14] Jesta: iieeeks [01:14] hyper_ch: now I know what you wanted to describe :) [01:14] Victorians... ;) [01:14] hyper_ch: but it is a different error [01:14] :P [01:15] Jesta: who won footy this year? [01:15] hyper_ch: file:///media/disk/error_ooo.png -- I meant the windeco, not the style [01:15] sorry [01:15] Jesta: unfortunately I can't receive any here ;( [01:15] hyper_ch: file:///media/disk/error_ooo.png [01:15] hyper_ch: http://oculusaquilae.de/xubuntu/error_ooo.png -- damn copy and paste [01:15] OculusAquilae: well, hmm.... no clue then... when you said missing icons this happened to me once because I lacked an installed style [01:15] hyper_ch: afl? [01:16] Jesta: yeah [01:16] hyper_ch: thanks anyway [01:16] OculusAquilae: just open a document [01:16] OculusAquilae: then the stuff appears [01:16] hyper_ch: not finished yet, but looks like geelong will finish on top and possibly go all the way [01:17] Jesta: thx :) /me misses Vegemite [01:17] hyper_ch: look at the decoration, I is the same with any opened document === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.40.229] has joined #xubuntu [01:17] OculusAquilae: what do you mean by decoration? [01:17] hyper_ch: the bar on top of the window [01:18] OculusAquilae: what about them? [01:18] hyper_ch: and the frame around it [01:18] OculusAquilae: ah... hmmm... no clue [01:18] i don't have this error in abiword, but this can't print in landscape mode [01:18] OculusAquilae: I thought you had a OOo problem [01:19] hyper_ch: it is only with OOo, not with gimp, firefox, abiword or any other program [01:20] OculusAquilae: strange... you're on Gutsy? [01:20] no, it's feisty [01:20] OculusAquilae: strange... maybe remove OOo completely with a purge and reinstallit === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.40.229] has joined #xubuntu [01:22] hyper_ch: hm, it was from the beginning of my installation and I think the problem is the window manager, but I will try this next time === hhlp [n=hhlp@79.Red-81-34-87.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:22] OculusAquilae: no clue :( [01:23]