| beuno | jenda: ping | 01:24 |
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| L1pe | hey guys, sunday's date in the topic is wrong, sunday is the 19th | 03:36 |
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| jenda | beuno: pong | 08:52 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-marketing: Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Keep in mind that whatever your LoCo does, any other LoCo can benefit from your work or experience! | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | Beuno is doing UWN | UWN #52 is out! UWN #53 is in progress to be released Sunday August 18th | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by beuno at Mon Aug 13 04:37:00 2007 | ||
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| Watersevenub | Susana, hey ... just sent the email to Corey about the Free Schools Project in Portugal ;) | 01:12 |
| Watersevenub | Susana, was there any other page where UWN accepts submissions rather than by email? | 01:12 |
| Susana | Watersevenub: just saw your email | 02:06 |
| Susana | nice :) | 02:06 |
| Susana | the correct place seems to be ubuntu-marketing-submissions | 02:07 |
| Watersevenub | Susana, where? | 02:08 |
| Susana | its a mailling list | 02:08 |
| Susana | ubuntu-marketing-submissions at lists ubuntu com | 02:09 |
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| Watersevenub | Susana, hhhmmm ... I have to leave now, can you forward it there please? | 02:28 |
| Susana | Watersevenub: sure | 02:32 |
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| dergringo | Hi | 07:26 |
| dergringo | What is the status of the DIY project? | 07:26 |
| jenda | hello dergringo | 07:28 |
| jenda | status bad | 07:28 |
| jenda | you pung me a few days ago | 07:28 |
| jenda | the team has fallen apart and no progress is happening. | 07:29 |
| jenda | Besides, the server is down and Mitch Mahan is nowhere to be found. | 07:29 |
| dergringo | jenda: oh that sounds bad. :-( | 07:29 |
| dergringo | Well is there still some interest in this project? | 07:29 |
| jenda | I've started working in parallell bits, with Canonical and shop.canonical.com, but it's not much. | 07:30 |
| juliux | jenda, lets call a team meeting;) | 07:30 |
| jenda | dergringo: I'm always interested in ti. | 07:30 |
| jenda | juliux: I think one was planned :D | 07:30 |
| jenda | gerry will be able to come after the weekend | 07:30 |
| jenda | And I'd like him to be there. | 07:30 |
| dergringo | Because my full time job will be finished in the end of august | 07:31 |
| dergringo | This means that I'll have some time left to support the project | 07:31 |
| dergringo | I was very busy the last few months so I wasn't able to to anything for DIY | 07:31 |
| dergringo | So maybe we can set up a new team? | 07:32 |
| dergringo | I have a server that I can offer | 07:32 |
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| dergringo | (a patched one) SCNR ;) | 07:34 |
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| jenda | dergringo: the project would probably take some restructuring. | 07:41 |
| jenda | shouldn't be too much of a problem though | 07:41 |
| jenda | dergringo: there's a chance we could include the community-supplied materials in shop.canonical.com in some way. | 07:41 |
| jenda | dergringo: which would be totally cool ;) | 07:41 |
| jenda | all we'd need to make DIY into is a resource for creating DIY material, and that would be a lot easier. | 07:42 |
| jenda | basically, I'd chop off the howto section plan for now, and focus on creating a database of downloadable material | 07:43 |
| dergringo | I don't like the aura of shop.canonical.com :) The url sounds like all the money goes to canonical not to the people | 07:43 |
| jenda | along with some basic guidelines on how to create new marketing material. | 07:43 |
| jenda | dergringo: that's why there'd be a community section. | 07:43 |
| jenda | dergringo: perhaps we could even win a forward to that section from shop.ubuntu.com :) | 07:43 |
| dergringo | shop.ubuntu.com would sound much better | 07:44 |
| dergringo | :) | 07:44 |
| jenda | well, no - not for what there is right now | 07:44 |
| jenda | the money is all canonical's | 07:44 |
| dergringo | or even ubuntushop.com | 07:44 |
| jenda | but gerry and I talked about a section for stuff people like julius or I produce. | 07:44 |
| jenda | (I don't plan to produce any more anytime soon) | 07:44 |
| dergringo | well that is the idea of the DIY project isn't it? | 07:45 |
| jenda | yes | 07:45 |
| jenda | 1/4 of it ;) | 07:45 |
| dergringo | :) | 07:45 |
| dergringo | So you | 07:45 |
| dergringo | want to take this part off? | 07:45 |
| dergringo | Or have I misunderstood you? | 07:45 |
| jenda | no - I want to use Canonical's help. | 07:45 |
| jenda | to achieve it, by fusing it into shop.canonical.com in some way. | 07:45 |
| jenda | so that people who want swag will go to either that or shop.ubuntu.com, and click their way through clearly separated canonical/community sections | 07:46 |
| dergringo | I don't see the advantages of this plan | 07:46 |
| jenda | 1) it gets done | 07:46 |
| jenda | 2) it fulfills the purpose | 07:46 |
| jenda | ad 1) - DIY is never gonna get done. It's been in the works for over a year, and there is simply not enough dedicated manpower. | 07:47 |
| jenda | ad 2) the purpose is that there is _one_ place to go to if you want to buy swag. | 07:47 |
| jenda | This place could be a joint effort by the community and canonical, at shop.canonical.com and shop.ubuntu.com, with two separate sections, one provided by Canonical, and one provided by the community. | 07:48 |
| jenda | This would leave DIY itself a much simpler task to complete. | 07:48 |
| dergringo | I see you have some ideas :) | 07:48 |
| jenda | hell yeah, I've been the leader of the project for over a year, and it was never finished - I have _TONS_ of ideas :D | 07:49 |
| dergringo | :D | 07:49 |
| dergringo | ideas are good | 07:49 |
| dergringo | Ok let me tell you this | 07:49 |
| jenda | It was never finished, because although I could have given it a lot of time, I don't have the skills to create it technically, so I needed people to do it for me, and although I did have a lot of very good workers over the course of time, they were never good enough (and my leadership never good enough) to actually complete it. | 07:50 |
| jenda | ^_^ | 07:50 |
| dergringo | I offer you my work as a backend dev as long as the code is beeing used for a community project | 07:50 |
| jenda | dergringo: I would gladly accept, if I didn't know you'd be the fourth or fifth backend dev who has wasted their time on work that would never be used. | 07:50 |
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| jenda | so, what I prefer to do now is to focus on getting the community-swag-shop up, and I'm hoping to get Canonical's help there. | 07:51 |
| jenda | And once that's done, we could move on to what's left of the original plan, and that is a database of downloadable (printable) swag-to-be. | 07:52 |
| jenda | And when that is done, the last step is the howtos section, which focuses on all the experiences of locos to be collected so that other locos could use them. | 07:53 |
| dergringo | jenda: You are the project leader. And me as a dev I think that the plans look very weird. Where is the list with the detailed requirements? | 07:53 |
| dergringo | I am missing some project documentation | 07:54 |
| jenda | dergringo: erm,... the wiki? :) | 07:54 |
| jenda | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite | 07:54 |
| dergringo | Yes I read the wiki but this is not what a dev is looking for :D | 07:54 |
| dergringo | We need technical specifications (look at the mail that I wrote some months ago with the questions) | 07:55 |
| jenda | I answered them as best I could. | 07:55 |
| dergringo | I know jenda and you answered them well! So why don't we publish it? | 07:56 |
| jenda | Feel free :D | 07:56 |
| jenda | I'm still looking for the emails | 07:56 |
| jenda | what name do you send under? | 07:56 |
| dergringo | Why don't we define exactly what this project is all about? :) | 07:57 |
| jenda | gotcha | 07:57 |
| dergringo | jenda: dergringo " aht" gmail "doht" com | 07:57 |
| jenda | got it | 07:57 |
| jenda | erm | 07:57 |
| jenda | I've been trying to for a year. | 07:57 |
| jenda | dergringo: and yeah, looking over that, it would be outdated if the above plan with canonical worked out. | 07:59 |
| jenda | I'll know more about that in the next 3 days | 07:59 |
| jenda | (talk with gerry) | 07:59 |
| jenda | After we know where that's headed, we will have to think of restructuring (or not) the current plan. | 07:59 |
| jenda | dergringo: I believe there is a _lot_ of backend work already done, except it's scattered in various places I don't see : | 08:00 |
| jenda | :( | 08:00 |
| jenda | I think only Dan Buch would know that, and he hasn't been overly communicative lately. | 08:00 |
| jenda | However, I have some urgent work to do in the next 2 hours... and it's about 6 hours of work... dammit :D | 08:00 |
| dergringo | jenda: allright just contact me by mail or by jabber (dergringo@swissjabber.org) | 08:23 |
| dergringo | I'm looking forward to hear from you | 08:23 |
| dergringo | I have a lot of time in the first two september weeks | 08:24 |
| dergringo | So maybe you got it until then ;) | 08:24 |
| jenda | dergringo: I'll do my best. | 08:25 |
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