[01:24] jenda: ping === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru_ [n=poningru@pool-72-64-214-110.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:36] hey guys, sunday's date in the topic is wrong, sunday is the 19th === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lipe_ [n=felipe@132-3-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lipe_ [n=felipe@132-3-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === greg-g [n=greg@unaffiliated/greg-g] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === greg_g [n=greg@unaffiliated/greg-g] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:52] beuno: pong === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-marketing.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Topic for #ubuntu-marketing: Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Keep in mind that whatever your LoCo does, any other LoCo can benefit from your work or experience! | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | Beuno is doing UWN | UWN #52 is out! UWN #53 is in progress to be released Sunday August 18th === Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by beuno at Mon Aug 13 04:37:00 2007 === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-84.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-84.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Susana [n=Susana@bl6-10-34.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:12] Susana, hey ... just sent the email to Corey about the Free Schools Project in Portugal ;) [01:12] Susana, was there any other page where UWN accepts submissions rather than by email? [02:06] Watersevenub: just saw your email [02:06] nice :) [02:07] the correct place seems to be ubuntu-marketing-submissions [02:08] Susana, where? [02:08] its a mailling list [02:09] ubuntu-marketing-submissions at lists ubuntu com === mrmonday [n=mrmonday@fullcirclemagazine/communicationsmanager/mrmonday] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:28] Susana, hhhmmm ... I have to leave now, can you forward it there please? [02:32] Watersevenub: sure === lipe_ [n=felipe@132-3-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lipe_ [n=felipe@132-3-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Bassetts [n=Bassetts@unaffiliated/bassetts] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === dergringo [n=dergring@195.176.0.55] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:26] Hi [07:26] What is the status of the DIY project? [07:28] hello dergringo [07:28] status bad [07:28] you pung me a few days ago [07:29] the team has fallen apart and no progress is happening. [07:29] Besides, the server is down and Mitch Mahan is nowhere to be found. [07:29] jenda: oh that sounds bad. :-( [07:29] Well is there still some interest in this project? [07:30] I've started working in parallell bits, with Canonical and shop.canonical.com, but it's not much. [07:30] jenda, lets call a team meeting;) [07:30] dergringo: I'm always interested in ti. [07:30] juliux: I think one was planned :D [07:30] gerry will be able to come after the weekend [07:30] And I'd like him to be there. [07:31] Because my full time job will be finished in the end of august [07:31] This means that I'll have some time left to support the project [07:31] I was very busy the last few months so I wasn't able to to anything for DIY [07:32] So maybe we can set up a new team? [07:32] I have a server that I can offer === mrmonday [n=mrmonday@fullcirclemagazine/communicationsmanager/mrmonday] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:34] (a patched one) SCNR ;) === lipe_ [n=felipe@132-3-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:41] dergringo: the project would probably take some restructuring. [07:41] shouldn't be too much of a problem though [07:41] dergringo: there's a chance we could include the community-supplied materials in shop.canonical.com in some way. [07:41] dergringo: which would be totally cool ;) [07:42] all we'd need to make DIY into is a resource for creating DIY material, and that would be a lot easier. [07:43] basically, I'd chop off the howto section plan for now, and focus on creating a database of downloadable material [07:43] I don't like the aura of shop.canonical.com :) The url sounds like all the money goes to canonical not to the people [07:43] along with some basic guidelines on how to create new marketing material. [07:43] dergringo: that's why there'd be a community section. [07:43] dergringo: perhaps we could even win a forward to that section from shop.ubuntu.com :) [07:44] shop.ubuntu.com would sound much better [07:44] :) [07:44] well, no - not for what there is right now [07:44] the money is all canonical's [07:44] or even ubuntushop.com [07:44] but gerry and I talked about a section for stuff people like julius or I produce. [07:44] (I don't plan to produce any more anytime soon) [07:45] well that is the idea of the DIY project isn't it? [07:45] yes [07:45] 1/4 of it ;) [07:45] :) [07:45] So you [07:45] want to take this part off? [07:45] Or have I misunderstood you? [07:45] no - I want to use Canonical's help. [07:45] to achieve it, by fusing it into shop.canonical.com in some way. [07:46] so that people who want swag will go to either that or shop.ubuntu.com, and click their way through clearly separated canonical/community sections [07:46] I don't see the advantages of this plan [07:46] 1) it gets done [07:46] 2) it fulfills the purpose [07:47] ad 1) - DIY is never gonna get done. It's been in the works for over a year, and there is simply not enough dedicated manpower. [07:47] ad 2) the purpose is that there is _one_ place to go to if you want to buy swag. [07:48] This place could be a joint effort by the community and canonical, at shop.canonical.com and shop.ubuntu.com, with two separate sections, one provided by Canonical, and one provided by the community. [07:48] This would leave DIY itself a much simpler task to complete. [07:48] I see you have some ideas :) [07:49] hell yeah, I've been the leader of the project for over a year, and it was never finished - I have _TONS_ of ideas :D [07:49] :D [07:49] ideas are good [07:49] Ok let me tell you this [07:50] It was never finished, because although I could have given it a lot of time, I don't have the skills to create it technically, so I needed people to do it for me, and although I did have a lot of very good workers over the course of time, they were never good enough (and my leadership never good enough) to actually complete it. [07:50] ^_^ [07:50] I offer you my work as a backend dev as long as the code is beeing used for a community project [07:50] dergringo: I would gladly accept, if I didn't know you'd be the fourth or fifth backend dev who has wasted their time on work that would never be used. === Vorian [n=Steve@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:51] so, what I prefer to do now is to focus on getting the community-swag-shop up, and I'm hoping to get Canonical's help there. [07:52] And once that's done, we could move on to what's left of the original plan, and that is a database of downloadable (printable) swag-to-be. [07:53] And when that is done, the last step is the howtos section, which focuses on all the experiences of locos to be collected so that other locos could use them. [07:53] jenda: You are the project leader. And me as a dev I think that the plans look very weird. Where is the list with the detailed requirements? [07:54] I am missing some project documentation [07:54] dergringo: erm,... the wiki? :) [07:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite [07:54] Yes I read the wiki but this is not what a dev is looking for :D [07:55] We need technical specifications (look at the mail that I wrote some months ago with the questions) [07:55] I answered them as best I could. [07:56] I know jenda and you answered them well! So why don't we publish it? [07:56] Feel free :D [07:56] I'm still looking for the emails [07:56] what name do you send under? [07:57] Why don't we define exactly what this project is all about? :) [07:57] gotcha [07:57] jenda: dergringo " aht" gmail "doht" com [07:57] got it [07:57] erm [07:57] I've been trying to for a year. [07:59] dergringo: and yeah, looking over that, it would be outdated if the above plan with canonical worked out. [07:59] I'll know more about that in the next 3 days [07:59] (talk with gerry) [07:59] After we know where that's headed, we will have to think of restructuring (or not) the current plan. [08:00] dergringo: I believe there is a _lot_ of backend work already done, except it's scattered in various places I don't see : [08:00] :( [08:00] I think only Dan Buch would know that, and he hasn't been overly communicative lately. [08:00] However, I have some urgent work to do in the next 2 hours... and it's about 6 hours of work... dammit :D [08:23] jenda: allright just contact me by mail or by jabber (dergringo@swissjabber.org) [08:23] I'm looking forward to hear from you [08:24] I have a lot of time in the first two september weeks [08:24] So maybe you got it until then ;) [08:25] dergringo: I'll do my best.