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sighnusxp?01:10
sighnusis there a xubuntu art irc channel01:11
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Jester45how do you make the settings in xvidtune to start after a reboot?01:24
Luniseven pressing random keys to try and stumble on the hotkey doesn't work D:<01:28
riciLunis: did you enable some input manager, or what?01:31
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Lunisrici, don't know, cat stepped on the keyboard and now i have a rather annoying keyboard floating on top of _everything_01:32
ricidoes it have normal sort of keys on it, or some different language?01:33
Lunisnormal keys01:33
Lunisi can't right-click it's taskbar entry, i can't close it01:33
ricii guess it's the cat-on-a-keyboard input method :)01:33
Lunisrici, xD I think you may be right ;)01:34
Lunisit's even there when i reboot01:34
Lunis:x01:34
ricidoes it have a name or anything?01:34
ricidid you try SCIM setup menu?01:34
Lunis"Keyboard"01:34
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ricii'm sure i've seen that, but i can't remember where01:36
daedshey, does xubuntu suport prism wifi pcmcia cards?01:36
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Lunisis there an app that can grab the process that's running behind a certain window?01:42
riciyeah, i was just trying to remember its name01:48
riciLunis: xwininfo01:50
riciLunis: damn, doesn't show process id01:50
Lunisnope :<01:51
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Luniscurses01:51
Jester45why not01:52
Jester45ps aux and fine what you think it is01:52
Jester45find*01:52
LunisJester45, so many procs, none of them look like what i need01:53
Jester45i rember i used it before01:53
Jester45could you pastebin it02:03
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Lunispastebin what, exactly?02:10
Jester45ps aux02:13
LunisJester45, http://attachr.com/941402:18
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Jester45Lunis, sorry i forgot about you :) do you know what matchbox-keybaord is? try "kill 2861"02:53
LunisJesta, it's ok. yeah that was it. i wonder how it's activated in the first place?02:54
LunisJester45^02:54
LunisJester45, hum. well that got rid of it thank God02:55
LunisJester45, part of the matchbox minimalist enviroment02:55
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Jester45anyone know how to run startxfce4 once boot is complete (not using gdm) and running it with non root user i put it in rc.local but root runs it03:04
Jester45so i dont get my config03:04
Jester45and my X is root03:04
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nikolamHello08:25
nikolamIs it normal for Ubuntu to bring on ROOT shell up, every time it finds something is not just right (like changed UUID of partition on /etc/fstab and so..)08:25
nikolamHow to make it Not giving root privileges to anyone during boot?08:25
Jester45if you remove the root=UUID08:25
Jester45and uncomment the general partition it doesntdo that08:26
nikolamYes, but main issue here is root shell08:26
nikolamuuid is second to that08:26
Jester45its because its erroring during the mount because the uuid isnt correct08:27
nikolamAside of, that uuid is "by design" for ubuntu08:27
Jester45and it drops you to a root shell when it errors08:27
nikolamyes but I dont want to give every user root privileges! .. ;*(08:27
Jester45remove the uuid and replace with /dev/hda1 or /sda1 and so on08:28
nikolamCould i desable it, say in grub or in some boot script and so..08:28
Jester45YOU WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:28
Jester45LISTEN TO ME08:28
nikolami will do that08:28
Jester45remove the uuid08:28
nikolamok08:28
Jester45replace with the /dev/hdaN08:28
Jester45or how ever its listed on your system08:28
Jester45it should then mount fine08:28
Jester45uncommenting means removing the #08:29
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nikolami just tried to repair uuid`s in /etc/fstab with vol_id command08:29
nikolamOk, Thanks08:29
nikolam:)08:29
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Jester45this way is much simpler08:29
nikolamYes but it is awful to whole system security just to `give` everyone who sits at machine root privileges ufff08:30
Jester45arrg08:31
Jester45if you do what im saying they dont08:31
nikolamOk, thanks08:31
Jester45not my fault the devels take care of their systems and dont mess things up08:31
Jester45so they list drives with uuids08:31
nikolam:)08:34
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Jester45hihi08:39
cellofellowhey hey08:39
nikolamhey08:39
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neenaofflinewhich component of xfce uses python? does xfce use python at all ?09:16
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Jester45yes09:18
Jester45mostof it is python09:18
neenaofflinehuh ? not xubuntu xfce09:20
neenaofflinesomeone on #xfce said none of them09:20
cellofellowxfce is entirely C if I'm not mistaken.09:20
neenaofflineyeah, thought so09:20
Jester45allmost all the tools xubuntu adds are python09:21
cellofellowah, only a couple of em like system-config-printer and update-manager09:21
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Jester45u sure?09:23
cellofellowyeah, pretty sure09:25
cellofellowthe Restricted Drivers Manager perhaps09:25
Jester45would this be ~/.09:32
Jester45oops09:32
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mrpokhey hey09:37
Jester45hi09:37
mrpokGot another problem for you. :)09:37
cellofellowok09:38
mrpokI can't seem to get k3b to burn from mp309:38
mrpokEven after installing libk3b2-mp309:38
cellofellowI think a good music burner I've heard of is Serpentine09:39
cellofellow!serpentine09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about serpentine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
cellofellownever tried it09:39
cellofellow!info serpentine09:40
ubotuserpentine: An application for creating audio CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7-4ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 704 kB09:40
cellofellowthere  you go.09:40
cellofellowI know Exaile has a Serpentine plugin.09:40
cellofellowSounds sweet.09:40
mrpokOK, I'll check it out09:41
mrpokwoah... Serpentine may be small, but once it gets all the dependencies it'll take 20mb. :)09:42
cellofellow:(09:42
cellofellowgee, I should check what I recommend.09:42
cellofellowI think there is command-line version that doesn't need huge GNOME libs or something. I think that's what Exaile uses. Not sure, checking.09:43
cellofellowExaile's Plugin thing isn't working right now. :)09:45
cellofellow:( I mean09:46
mrpokOh, it's not a problem, I've plenty of space.09:53
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mrpokSerpentine needs the gstreamer mp3 files, apparently.09:55
mrpokThat may be the problem with k3b as well09:55
cellofellowI think for MP3 in gstreamer you need gstreamer-plugins-bad or something09:56
cellofellowI'd install all of the gstreamter plugins packages if I was you09:56
mrpokDo I need gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3? What's fluendo?10:01
hyper_chhiho10:30
hyper_chTheSheep: rTorrent is really nice :)10:32
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=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007
(zs6jce/#xubuntu) can never have to much11:28
(hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: it's a trade off :) more swap = better for the system but less space for stuff ;)11:28
(zs6jce/#xubuntu) true11:28
(hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: you can have too much swap ;)11:28
(hyper_ch/#xubuntu) oh well, just go for something between 256 and 512mb11:29
(zs6jce/#xubuntu) while i have been typing the laptop did something11:29
(zs6jce/#xubuntu) now there is a blue screen11:29
(zs6jce/#xubuntu) low mem on top11:29
(hyper_ch/#xubuntu) yes, what does it say?11:29
hyper_chanything else?11:29
zs6jceand a flashing prompt at bottom11:29
hyper_chanything else?11:30
zs6jcei hate the unknown waiting for something that might happen or not11:30
hyper_chflashing prompt at the bottom is not good11:30
zs6jcestill Low memory mode with blue screen and prompt at bottom11:30
hyper_chI don't recall this having happened when I installed it on the 64mb notebook11:31
hyper_chI guess you're out of luck  ;(11:31
zs6jceNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO11:31
zs6jcelol11:31
zs6jcewill get ram11:31
hyper_chthe prompt is not good11:31
zs6jcethen try again11:31
hyper_chor do a console install only11:31
zs6jcebut ill remember the latin1 (for western euro)11:31
hyper_chdoes that notebook has a network adapter?11:32
zs6jcek ill try that because i found a website that guides you to install the xfce later11:32
zs6jceyes i believe modem and ethernet11:32
hyper_chzs6jce: installing it later is simple:   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:32
zs6jce(10 or 100 /11:32
hyper_chok :) that's good11:33
zs6jcestill flashing maybe is (i cant quess)11:34
zs6jceguess11:34
hyper_choh well, you can let it run11:34
hyper_chit won't damage anything ;=11:34
zs6jcedont feel that harddisk or cdrom spinning11:35
hyper_chexcept for the life-span of the batteries but I think on such an old notebook the batteries don't have much life anyway after fully being charged11:35
hyper_chyou could put it aside and go out to the beach or something ;)11:35
zs6jcebattery`s are dead have to repack11:35
zs6jcewish i where at the beach then i wouldnt have to mess with pc and laptops11:36
hyper_chzs6jce: just make sure you don't invest too much money on that notebook11:36
hyper_chno beach here either11:37
zs6jcei paid about $40 for it11:37
zs6jceit is my first laptop11:37
hyper_chhow much will the ram be?11:37
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zs6jcedont know think about $13 dollars for 128 but could be wrong cause im basing it on P2 PC ram11:39
hyper_chzs6jce: wow... well, here is ram for such old equipment not that cheap anymore because there's not much available ;(11:39
zs6jcestill flashing11:39
hyper_chthat's why I said not to invest too much11:39
hyper_choh well, can't really tell you what to do with it... I tend to think because you have a prompt it died11:40
zs6jceyea its a toy so wont over capitalise11:40
hyper_chI need to get myself also a notebook11:41
zs6jceyea i think the install failed so i will try the command line11:41
hyper_chgood luck :)11:41
zs6jcenotebooks are xpensive and THEN some11:41
zs6jcethanks and good bye11:41
hyper_chI know they are expensive... but it would quite help me on my job11:42
zs6jceYou should think of the notebook as an extension to the PC and use the PC as the storage and backup place11:43
hyper_chzs6jce: guess why I have 4 harddisks in my computer ;)11:43
highvoltagezs6jce: is that a .za callsign?11:43
zs6jcelol only have 3 cause i have a dvd to11:43
hyper_chSysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 714/1009GB, RAM: 998/1010MB, 165 proc's, 7.18d up11:44
zs6jceyes for radio amateurs11:44
highvoltagecool, I'm doing my radio exam in September11:45
zs6jcelol which country11:45
highvoltagesouth africa too, western cape. so I'll have a ZR1 and then hopefully a ZS1 some point in the future11:45
zs6jcestudy hard!!! cause its hard11:46
hyper_ch;)11:46
highvoltageheh, ok.11:46
zs6jcemy brother tried twice and failed11:46
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highvoltageouch!11:46
hyper_chwhat does that exam include?11:46
zs6jceget the Andrew Roos guide (i think is at the sarl website)11:47
zs6jceradio procedures and electronic11:47
zs6jceelectronic stuff like volts and amps and ohms11:48
highvoltageI have it (busy uploading quickly)11:48
hyper_chno clue11:48
hyper_chI've heard of volts and amps and ohms in physics class a long time ago ;)11:48
zs6jceyea thats the things you need to know but never use after wards11:49
zs6jcebecause the radios of today is more computer than radio11:49
zs6jceand there fore you cant really take out failed resistors and stuff like that11:50
zs6jcebut it is use full is you want to build a power supply11:50
hyper_ch^^11:50
melsedirwhats a good alternative to k3b if you wanna stay clear of kde libs and such?11:50
highvoltagebrasero is ok.11:50
hyper_chgnomebaker11:51
hyper_chxfburner just doesn't hit it well11:51
melsedirthanks i'll try them out11:52
zs6jcehighvoltage  there is a Dummies guide to "electronics" and "radio amateurs" that could be usefull. (try pirebay they have 135 of these books)11:52
melsedirnerolinux is no good?11:53
hyper_chmelsedir: is it free?11:53
melsedirwell no11:54
zs6jceso how do these chatrooms work. do you guys sit here and wait for noobs like me to come and bug you?11:54
hyper_chmelsedir: then I don't consider it as good :) k3b is the best one out there11:54
hyper_chzs6jce: nah, doing other stuff and sometimes look in here11:54
zs6jceso some time you miss question the some one els gets it11:55
hyper_chbasically I'm watching some vids and waiting for B5 to be converted in mkv and have this open11:55
hyper_chzs6jce: yes... sometimes we miss... but does that matter?11:56
zs6jcewhat is B511:56
hyper_chzs6jce: Babylon 5 - my fav. tv show11:56
zs6jcecool i would luv to be able to download all my favourite shows and movies but the 4gig cap is a reall prop cause i have to share it with the family and we are always over11:58
zs6jcethe cap11:58
zs6jceby about 2gigs11:58
zs6jcelol11:58
hyper_chzs6jce: you mean download cap?11:58
zs6jceand south africa is the most xpensive11:58
hyper_chhmmm, I would hit that limit every other day or so11:58
zs6jceyip download and up = 4gig total or you pay extra11:59
zs6jceI KNow11:59
zs6jceStill have to wait to 21st to download again11:59
zs6jcethen wait 20 days and download agian11:59
zs6jcelol11:59
zs6jceLOL xubuntu just inform me that No cdrom was detected12:00
zs6jcebut how on earth did i load xubuntu12:00
hyper_chzs6jce: maybe an error on the disc12:01
zs6jcelol12:01
hyper_chat boot, select the integrity check12:01
zs6jceit asks for a cd-rom driver12:01
zs6jceso ill google12:01
hyper_chzs6jce: in the last 12h I have uploaded 3gb through bittorrent12:01
zs6jceNOoooooooooooooooooooo unfair12:01
hyper_chzs6jce: what? interesting12:01
hyper_chI love my cable connection12:02
zs6jcewe at least got dsl so no more dailup for me12:02
zs6jcesmall mircals12:03
zs6jcedamn i sux at spelling12:03
hyper_chwell, in my new appartement I'll also have DSL12:03
hyper_ch5000kbit down / 500 kbit up for CHF 49.-/m12:03
zs6jce:( only have 384 down and think 192 up12:04
hyper_chor 15'000 down and 1'000 up for 89.-/m12:04
zs6jcethe prob is that we only have one tel com provider and it owns the sea cable to europe. but there is a plan to get a new operator on it feet12:05
hyper_chwell, until a couple of years ago it was sort of the same situation here in switzerland... only one telcom provider12:06
hyper_chprices have dropped since massivley12:06
zs6jcewe pay ZAR  111 for line the dsl is zar 150  and then the cap is zar 17912:06
hyper_chwell, I hope for you that your telcom provider will soon have concurrence... it will drop on prices12:07
zs6jceand then some12:08
zs6jcelunch time12:08
hyper_chsame time zone I guess :)12:09
zs6jceyip swiss and us is gmt +212:09
zs6jcebye12:09
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hyper_chnah, we are gmt +1 but have daylight savings12:10
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zs6jcehyper_ch: hi im back.12:47
hyper_chzs6jce: ;)12:47
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zs6jceK i have a couple of oooold 486 laptops do you have some advise as to which operating system to use. I wont be personaly using the laptops. But do you think i should try something like puppy linux. (Or maybe win 95 for the comfort of the users that are still stuck in windoze)12:50
zs6jceby the way i think my cdrom is not supported by xubuntu and there for it wont install.12:53
zs6jcebut ill find a fix12:53
hyper_chcdrom should be supported12:54
zs6jceno cdrom is not supported its a matsushita and xubuntu said that it might not be supported and that i can pick from a list or use a stiffy. so ill try and install xubuntu agian.01:00
zs6jcei do feel like an idoit for missing the western europe language think01:02
zs6jceif you want to see an awesome nature clip go to youtube and search for "Battle at the Kruger"01:07
zs6jce9.5mil ppl have seen it01:07
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anandanbuI have installed Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows XP and i need install LinuxMint 3.0 will it affect the ubuntu GRUB or other apps01:45
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razor111hi all, i'm looking for a program like pc suite to connect my nokia on xubuntu, ??02:32
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megaproxyOS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium III, 851 MHz, 256KB Video: ATI Mobility 128 AGP 2X (DELL) (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: ESS Maestro 3 Memory: Used: 149/256MB Uptime: 1d 1h 21m 48s HD: Free: 11.00 GB/18.63 GB Connection: NETGEAR RangeMax(TM) Wireless PC Card WPN511 - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 108.0 Mbps (Rec: 129.14MB Sent: 17.21MB)02:45
megaproxywhats the best linux to use on this lappy?02:45
pleia2ubuntu should run fine, but I'd go with xubuntu because I like it better ;)02:46
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megaproxyyea i was told to use xubuntu02:48
megaproxysomthing like suse would be to much of a footprint rite?02:48
viddsuse is like puting an elephant in a cat carrier!02:49
vidd=] \02:49
megaproxylol02:49
megaproxythought so02:49
megaproxylol02:50
megaproxycheers02:50
megaproxyim guna go see the red arrows fly and stuff02:50
megaproxyso ill bbl02:50
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exposehi03:36
exposeHow long is Lont Term Support?03:36
vidd3 years standard 5 year server03:37
exposethanks.03:37
exposeand, "server" means actually the same version, but desktop packages like openoffice excluded03:38
expose?03:38
exposeso, if i install a typical desktop, and after 4 years, when only server support is still available, the basic packages and maybe an apache i installed on that desktop will still be updated?03:39
viddidk....read the "support" page on ubuntu.com03:39
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ericvmeloCan somebody help me?06:05
hyper_ch!question | ericvmelo06:05
ubotuericvmelo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:05
ericvmeloWell, I have a Sound Blaster Live sound card on Xubuntu, but the sound is not working. I figured out so far, since my computer is DELL, that my sound card should use the module snd-emu10k1x instead of snd-emu10k1 that it is using now. I'm trying 'modprobe snd-emu10k1x', but it gives an error.06:09
TheSheepericvmelo: you could maybe try and blacklist the snd-emu10k1 module06:15
TheSheepericvmelo: but I'd search for that module name on the forum first06:15
PumpernickelAnd possibly tell us what the error was.06:17
PumpernickelGeneric errors are hard to debug.06:17
ericvmeloI'll try to blacklist and see what happens, then. I've already searched in a lot of forums and tried several things but it didn't work yet.06:19
ericvmelo"FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1x (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko): Invalid argument06:21
ericvmeloFATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k1x"06:21
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ericvmeloI blacklisted snd-emu10k1, restarted, but it still can't install the module... :(06:29
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neclimdulok, i'm consistently running out of memory on the detecting hardware stage of the xubuntu install(granted this old lappy only has 48M of ram with 100M swap)07:53
neclimdulanyone have any suggestions(this is text mode on the alternate cd btw)07:53
hyper_ch48mb ram is not enough07:57
crimsunas early as possible, switch to a busybox shell, create a much larger swap partition, and mount it.07:57
hyper_ch64mb is the minimum07:57
neclimdulhmm... that wasn't what the ubuntu site said07:57
hyper_chTo run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.07:58
hyper_chOnce installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM.07:58
neclimdulgreat07:59
Jester45it can run with less if you customize it and have swap07:59
neclimdulwell, looks like I'll just spend a week installing gentoo then07:59
hyper_chwith 48mb ram I'd go with DSL07:59
Jester45i used 59mb ram once booting is done07:59
Jester45DSL is nice07:59
neclimdulI've got DSL-N running right now.  would like a decent installer though08:00
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