[01:10] <sighnus> xp?
[01:11] <sighnus> is there a xubuntu art irc channel
[01:24] <Jester45> how do you make the settings in xvidtune to start after a reboot?
[01:28] <Lunis> even pressing random keys to try and stumble on the hotkey doesn't work D:<
[01:31] <rici> Lunis: did you enable some input manager, or what?
[01:32] <Lunis> rici, don't know, cat stepped on the keyboard and now i have a rather annoying keyboard floating on top of _everything_
[01:33] <rici> does it have normal sort of keys on it, or some different language?
[01:33] <Lunis> normal keys
[01:33] <Lunis> i can't right-click it's taskbar entry, i can't close it
[01:33] <rici> i guess it's the cat-on-a-keyboard input method :)
[01:34] <Lunis> rici, xD I think you may be right ;)
[01:34] <Lunis> it's even there when i reboot
[01:34] <Lunis> :x
[01:34] <rici> does it have a name or anything?
[01:34] <rici> did you try SCIM setup menu?
[01:34] <Lunis> "Keyboard"
[01:36] <rici> i'm sure i've seen that, but i can't remember where
[01:36] <daeds> hey, does xubuntu suport prism wifi pcmcia cards?
[01:42] <Lunis> is there an app that can grab the process that's running behind a certain window?
[01:48] <rici> yeah, i was just trying to remember its name
[01:50] <rici> Lunis: xwininfo
[01:50] <rici> Lunis: damn, doesn't show process id
[01:51] <Lunis> nope :<
[01:51] <Lunis> curses
[01:52] <Jester45> why not
[01:52] <Jester45> ps aux and fine what you think it is
[01:52] <Jester45> find*
[01:53] <Lunis> Jester45, so many procs, none of them look like what i need
[01:53] <Jester45> i rember i used it before
[02:03] <Jester45> could you pastebin it
[02:10] <Lunis> pastebin what, exactly?
[02:13] <Jester45> ps aux
[02:18] <Lunis> Jester45, http://attachr.com/9414
[02:53] <Jester45> Lunis, sorry i forgot about you :) do you know what matchbox-keybaord is? try "kill 2861"
[02:54] <Lunis> Jesta, it's ok. yeah that was it. i wonder how it's activated in the first place?
[02:54] <Lunis> Jester45^
[02:55] <Lunis> Jester45, hum. well that got rid of it thank God
[02:55] <Lunis> Jester45, part of the matchbox minimalist enviroment
[03:04] <Jester45> anyone know how to run startxfce4 once boot is complete (not using gdm) and running it with non root user i put it in rc.local but root runs it
[03:04] <Jester45> so i dont get my config
[03:04] <Jester45> and my X is root
[08:25] <nikolam> Hello
[08:25] <nikolam> Is it normal for Ubuntu to bring on ROOT shell up, every time it finds something is not just right (like changed UUID of partition on /etc/fstab and so..)
[08:25] <nikolam> How to make it Not giving root privileges to anyone during boot?
[08:25] <Jester45> if you remove the root=UUID
[08:26] <Jester45> and uncomment the general partition it doesntdo that
[08:26] <nikolam> Yes, but main issue here is root shell
[08:26] <nikolam> uuid is second to that
[08:27] <Jester45> its because its erroring during the mount because the uuid isnt correct
[08:27] <nikolam> Aside of, that uuid is "by design" for ubuntu
[08:27] <Jester45> and it drops you to a root shell when it errors
[08:27] <nikolam> yes but I dont want to give every user root privileges! .. ;*(
[08:28] <Jester45> remove the uuid and replace with /dev/hda1 or /sda1 and so on
[08:28] <nikolam> Could i desable it, say in grub or in some boot script and so..
[08:28] <Jester45> YOU WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:28] <Jester45> LISTEN TO ME
[08:28] <nikolam> i will do that
[08:28] <Jester45> remove the uuid
[08:28] <nikolam> ok
[08:28] <Jester45> replace with the /dev/hdaN
[08:28] <Jester45> or how ever its listed on your system
[08:28] <Jester45> it should then mount fine
[08:29] <Jester45> uncommenting means removing the #
[08:29] <nikolam> i just tried to repair uuid`s in /etc/fstab with vol_id command
[08:29] <nikolam> Ok, Thanks
[08:29] <nikolam> :)
[08:29] <Jester45> this way is much simpler
[08:30] <nikolam> Yes but it is awful to whole system security just to `give` everyone who sits at machine root privileges ufff
[08:31] <Jester45> arrg
[08:31] <Jester45> if you do what im saying they dont
[08:31] <nikolam> Ok, thanks
[08:31] <Jester45> not my fault the devels take care of their systems and dont mess things up
[08:31] <Jester45> so they list drives with uuids
[08:34] <nikolam> :)
[08:39] <Jester45> hihi
[08:39] <cellofellow> hey hey
[08:39] <nikolam> hey
[09:16] <neenaoffline> which component of xfce uses python? does xfce use python at all ?
[09:18] <Jester45> yes
[09:18] <Jester45> mostof it is python
[09:20] <neenaoffline> huh ? not xubuntu xfce
[09:20] <neenaoffline> someone on #xfce said none of them
[09:20] <cellofellow> xfce is entirely C if I'm not mistaken.
[09:20] <neenaoffline> yeah, thought so
[09:21] <Jester45> allmost all the tools xubuntu adds are python
[09:21] <cellofellow> ah, only a couple of em like system-config-printer and update-manager
[09:23] <Jester45> u sure?
[09:25] <cellofellow> yeah, pretty sure
[09:25] <cellofellow> the Restricted Drivers Manager perhaps
[09:32] <Jester45> would this be ~/.
[09:32] <Jester45> oops
[09:37] <mrpok> hey hey
[09:37] <Jester45> hi
[09:37] <mrpok> Got another problem for you. :)
[09:38] <cellofellow> ok
[09:38] <mrpok> I can't seem to get k3b to burn from mp3
[09:38] <mrpok> Even after installing libk3b2-mp3
[09:39] <cellofellow> I think a good music burner I've heard of is Serpentine
[09:39] <cellofellow> !serpentine
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serpentine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <cellofellow> never tried it
[09:40] <cellofellow> !info serpentine
[09:40] <ubotu> serpentine: An application for creating audio CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7-4ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 704 kB
[09:40] <cellofellow> there  you go.
[09:40] <cellofellow> I know Exaile has a Serpentine plugin.
[09:40] <cellofellow> Sounds sweet.
[09:41] <mrpok> OK, I'll check it out
[09:42] <mrpok> woah... Serpentine may be small, but once it gets all the dependencies it'll take 20mb. :)
[09:42] <cellofellow> :(
[09:42] <cellofellow> gee, I should check what I recommend.
[09:43] <cellofellow> I think there is command-line version that doesn't need huge GNOME libs or something. I think that's what Exaile uses. Not sure, checking.
[09:45] <cellofellow> Exaile's Plugin thing isn't working right now. :)
[09:46] <cellofellow> :( I mean
[09:53] <mrpok> Oh, it's not a problem, I've plenty of space.
[09:55] <mrpok> Serpentine needs the gstreamer mp3 files, apparently.
[09:55] <mrpok> That may be the problem with k3b as well
[09:56] <cellofellow> I think for MP3 in gstreamer you need gstreamer-plugins-bad or something
[09:56] <cellofellow> I'd install all of the gstreamter plugins packages if I was you
[10:01] <mrpok> Do I need gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3? What's fluendo?
[10:30] <hyper_ch> hiho
[10:32] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: rTorrent is really nice :)
[11:28] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) can never have to much
[11:28] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: it's a trade off :) more swap = better for the system but less space for stuff ;)
[11:28] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) true
[11:28] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: you can have too much swap ;)
[11:29] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) oh well, just go for something between 256 and 512mb
[11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) while i have been typing the laptop did something
[11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) now there is a blue screen
[11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) low mem on top
[11:29] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) yes, what does it say?
[11:29] <hyper_ch> anything else?
[11:29] <zs6jce> and a flashing prompt at bottom
[11:30] <hyper_ch> anything else?
[11:30] <zs6jce> i hate the unknown waiting for something that might happen or not
[11:30] <hyper_ch> flashing prompt at the bottom is not good
[11:30] <zs6jce> still Low memory mode with blue screen and prompt at bottom
[11:31] <hyper_ch> I don't recall this having happened when I installed it on the 64mb notebook
[11:31] <hyper_ch> I guess you're out of luck  ;(
[11:31] <zs6jce> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:31] <zs6jce> lol
[11:31] <zs6jce> will get ram
[11:31] <hyper_ch> the prompt is not good
[11:31] <zs6jce> then try again
[11:31] <hyper_ch> or do a console install only
[11:31] <zs6jce> but ill remember the latin1 (for western euro)
[11:32] <hyper_ch> does that notebook has a network adapter?
[11:32] <zs6jce> k ill try that because i found a website that guides you to install the xfce later
[11:32] <zs6jce> yes i believe modem and ethernet
[11:32] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: installing it later is simple:   sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <zs6jce> (10 or 100 /
[11:33] <hyper_ch> ok :) that's good
[11:34] <zs6jce> still flashing maybe is (i cant quess)
[11:34] <zs6jce> guess
[11:34] <hyper_ch> oh well, you can let it run
[11:34] <hyper_ch> it won't damage anything ;=
[11:35] <zs6jce> dont feel that harddisk or cdrom spinning
[11:35] <hyper_ch> except for the life-span of the batteries but I think on such an old notebook the batteries don't have much life anyway after fully being charged
[11:35] <hyper_ch> you could put it aside and go out to the beach or something ;)
[11:35] <zs6jce> battery`s are dead have to repack
[11:36] <zs6jce> wish i where at the beach then i wouldnt have to mess with pc and laptops
[11:36] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: just make sure you don't invest too much money on that notebook
[11:37] <hyper_ch> no beach here either
[11:37] <zs6jce> i paid about $40 for it
[11:37] <zs6jce> it is my first laptop
[11:37] <hyper_ch> how much will the ram be?
[11:39] <zs6jce> dont know think about $13 dollars for 128 but could be wrong cause im basing it on P2 PC ram
[11:39] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: wow... well, here is ram for such old equipment not that cheap anymore because there's not much available ;(
[11:39] <zs6jce> still flashing
[11:39] <hyper_ch> that's why I said not to invest too much
[11:40] <hyper_ch> oh well, can't really tell you what to do with it... I tend to think because you have a prompt it died
[11:40] <zs6jce> yea its a toy so wont over capitalise
[11:41] <hyper_ch> I need to get myself also a notebook
[11:41] <zs6jce> yea i think the install failed so i will try the command line
[11:41] <hyper_ch> good luck :)
[11:41] <zs6jce> notebooks are xpensive and THEN some
[11:41] <zs6jce> thanks and good bye
[11:42] <hyper_ch> I know they are expensive... but it would quite help me on my job
[11:43] <zs6jce> You should think of the notebook as an extension to the PC and use the PC as the storage and backup place
[11:43] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: guess why I have 4 harddisks in my computer ;)
[11:43] <highvoltage> zs6jce: is that a .za callsign?
[11:43] <zs6jce> lol only have 3 cause i have a dvd to
[11:44] <hyper_ch> Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 714/1009GB, RAM: 998/1010MB, 165 proc's, 7.18d up
[11:44] <zs6jce> yes for radio amateurs
[11:45] <highvoltage> cool, I'm doing my radio exam in September
[11:45] <zs6jce> lol which country
[11:45] <highvoltage> south africa too, western cape. so I'll have a ZR1 and then hopefully a ZS1 some point in the future
[11:46] <zs6jce> study hard!!! cause its hard
[11:46] <hyper_ch> ;)
[11:46] <highvoltage> heh, ok.
[11:46] <zs6jce> my brother tried twice and failed
[11:46] <highvoltage> ouch!
[11:46] <hyper_ch> what does that exam include?
[11:47] <zs6jce> get the Andrew Roos guide (i think is at the sarl website)
[11:47] <zs6jce> radio procedures and electronic
[11:48] <zs6jce> electronic stuff like volts and amps and ohms
[11:48] <highvoltage> I have it (busy uploading quickly)
[11:48] <hyper_ch> no clue
[11:48] <hyper_ch> I've heard of volts and amps and ohms in physics class a long time ago ;)
[11:49] <zs6jce> yea thats the things you need to know but never use after wards
[11:49] <zs6jce> because the radios of today is more computer than radio
[11:50] <zs6jce> and there fore you cant really take out failed resistors and stuff like that
[11:50] <zs6jce> but it is use full is you want to build a power supply
[11:50] <hyper_ch> ^^
[11:50] <melsedir> whats a good alternative to k3b if you wanna stay clear of kde libs and such?
[11:50] <highvoltage> brasero is ok.
[11:51] <hyper_ch> gnomebaker
[11:51] <hyper_ch> xfburner just doesn't hit it well
[11:52] <melsedir> thanks i'll try them out
[11:52] <zs6jce> highvoltage  there is a Dummies guide to "electronics" and "radio amateurs" that could be usefull. (try pirebay they have 135 of these books)
[11:53] <melsedir> nerolinux is no good?
[11:53] <hyper_ch> melsedir: is it free?
[11:54] <melsedir> well no
[11:54] <zs6jce> so how do these chatrooms work. do you guys sit here and wait for noobs like me to come and bug you?
[11:54] <hyper_ch> melsedir: then I don't consider it as good :) k3b is the best one out there
[11:54] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: nah, doing other stuff and sometimes look in here
[11:55] <zs6jce> so some time you miss question the some one els gets it
[11:55] <hyper_ch> basically I'm watching some vids and waiting for B5 to be converted in mkv and have this open
[11:56] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: yes... sometimes we miss... but does that matter?
[11:56] <zs6jce> what is B5
[11:56] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: Babylon 5 - my fav. tv show
[11:58] <zs6jce> cool i would luv to be able to download all my favourite shows and movies but the 4gig cap is a reall prop cause i have to share it with the family and we are always over
[11:58] <zs6jce> the cap
[11:58] <zs6jce> by about 2gigs
[11:58] <zs6jce> lol
[11:58] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: you mean download cap?
[11:58] <zs6jce> and south africa is the most xpensive
[11:58] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I would hit that limit every other day or so
[11:59] <zs6jce> yip download and up = 4gig total or you pay extra
[11:59] <zs6jce> I KNow
[11:59] <zs6jce> Still have to wait to 21st to download again
[11:59] <zs6jce> then wait 20 days and download agian
[11:59] <zs6jce> lol
[12:00] <zs6jce> LOL xubuntu just inform me that No cdrom was detected
[12:00] <zs6jce> but how on earth did i load xubuntu
[12:01] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: maybe an error on the disc
[12:01] <zs6jce> lol
[12:01] <hyper_ch> at boot, select the integrity check
[12:01] <zs6jce> it asks for a cd-rom driver
[12:01] <zs6jce> so ill google
[12:01] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: in the last 12h I have uploaded 3gb through bittorrent
[12:01] <zs6jce> NOoooooooooooooooooooo unfair
[12:01] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: what? interesting
[12:02] <hyper_ch> I love my cable connection
[12:02] <zs6jce> we at least got dsl so no more dailup for me
[12:03] <zs6jce> small mircals
[12:03] <zs6jce> damn i sux at spelling
[12:03] <hyper_ch> well, in my new appartement I'll also have DSL
[12:03] <hyper_ch> 5000kbit down / 500 kbit up for CHF 49.-/m
[12:04] <zs6jce> :( only have 384 down and think 192 up
[12:04] <hyper_ch> or 15'000 down and 1'000 up for 89.-/m
[12:05] <zs6jce> the prob is that we only have one tel com provider and it owns the sea cable to europe. but there is a plan to get a new operator on it feet
[12:06] <hyper_ch> well, until a couple of years ago it was sort of the same situation here in switzerland... only one telcom provider
[12:06] <hyper_ch> prices have dropped since massivley
[12:06] <zs6jce> we pay ZAR  111 for line the dsl is zar 150  and then the cap is zar 179
[12:07] <hyper_ch> well, I hope for you that your telcom provider will soon have concurrence... it will drop on prices
[12:08] <zs6jce> and then some
[12:08] <zs6jce> lunch time
[12:09] <hyper_ch> same time zone I guess :)
[12:09] <zs6jce> yip swiss and us is gmt +2
[12:09] <zs6jce> bye
[12:10] <hyper_ch> nah, we are gmt +1 but have daylight savings
[12:47] <zs6jce> hyper_ch: hi im back.
[12:47] <hyper_ch> zs6jce: ;)
[12:50] <zs6jce> K i have a couple of oooold 486 laptops do you have some advise as to which operating system to use. I wont be personaly using the laptops. But do you think i should try something like puppy linux. (Or maybe win 95 for the comfort of the users that are still stuck in windoze)
[12:53] <zs6jce> by the way i think my cdrom is not supported by xubuntu and there for it wont install.
[12:53] <zs6jce> but ill find a fix
[12:54] <hyper_ch> cdrom should be supported
[01:00] <zs6jce> no cdrom is not supported its a matsushita and xubuntu said that it might not be supported and that i can pick from a list or use a stiffy. so ill try and install xubuntu agian.
[01:02] <zs6jce> i do feel like an idoit for missing the western europe language think
[01:07] <zs6jce> if you want to see an awesome nature clip go to youtube and search for "Battle at the Kruger"
[01:07] <zs6jce> 9.5mil ppl have seen it
[01:45] <anandanbu> I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows XP and i need install LinuxMint 3.0 will it affect the ubuntu GRUB or other apps
[02:32] <razor111> hi all, i'm looking for a program like pc suite to connect my nokia on xubuntu, ??
[02:45] <megaproxy> OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium III, 851 MHz, 256KB Video: ATI Mobility 128 AGP 2X (DELL) (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: ESS Maestro 3 Memory: Used: 149/256MB Uptime: 1d 1h 21m 48s HD: Free: 11.00 GB/18.63 GB Connection: NETGEAR RangeMax(TM) Wireless PC Card WPN511 - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 108.0 Mbps (Rec: 129.14MB Sent: 17.21MB)
[02:45] <megaproxy> whats the best linux to use on this lappy?
[02:46] <pleia2> ubuntu should run fine, but I'd go with xubuntu because I like it better ;)
[02:48] <megaproxy> yea i was told to use xubuntu
[02:48] <megaproxy> somthing like suse would be to much of a footprint rite?
[02:49] <vidd> suse is like puting an elephant in a cat carrier!
[02:49] <vidd> =] \
[02:49] <megaproxy> lol
[02:49] <megaproxy> thought so
[02:50] <megaproxy> lol
[02:50] <megaproxy> cheers
[02:50] <megaproxy> im guna go see the red arrows fly and stuff
[02:50] <megaproxy> so ill bbl
[03:36] <expose> hi
[03:36] <expose> How long is Lont Term Support?
[03:37] <vidd> 3 years standard 5 year server
[03:37] <expose> thanks.
[03:38] <expose> and, "server" means actually the same version, but desktop packages like openoffice excluded
[03:38] <expose> ?
[03:39] <expose> so, if i install a typical desktop, and after 4 years, when only server support is still available, the basic packages and maybe an apache i installed on that desktop will still be updated?
[03:39] <vidd> idk....read the "support" page on ubuntu.com
[06:05] <ericvmelo> Can somebody help me?
[06:05] <hyper_ch> !question | ericvmelo
[06:05] <ubotu> ericvmelo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:09] <ericvmelo> Well, I have a Sound Blaster Live sound card on Xubuntu, but the sound is not working. I figured out so far, since my computer is DELL, that my sound card should use the module snd-emu10k1x instead of snd-emu10k1 that it is using now. I'm trying 'modprobe snd-emu10k1x', but it gives an error.
[06:15] <TheSheep> ericvmelo: you could maybe try and blacklist the snd-emu10k1 module
[06:15] <TheSheep> ericvmelo: but I'd search for that module name on the forum first
[06:17] <Pumpernickel> And possibly tell us what the error was.
[06:17] <Pumpernickel> Generic errors are hard to debug.
[06:19] <ericvmelo> I'll try to blacklist and see what happens, then. I've already searched in a lot of forums and tried several things but it didn't work yet.
[06:21] <ericvmelo> "FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1x (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko): Invalid argument
[06:21] <ericvmelo> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k1x"
[06:29] <ericvmelo> I blacklisted snd-emu10k1, restarted, but it still can't install the module... :(
[07:53] <neclimdul> ok, i'm consistently running out of memory on the detecting hardware stage of the xubuntu install(granted this old lappy only has 48M of ram with 100M swap)
[07:53] <neclimdul> anyone have any suggestions(this is text mode on the alternate cd btw)
[07:57] <hyper_ch> 48mb ram is not enough
[07:57] <crimsun> as early as possible, switch to a busybox shell, create a much larger swap partition, and mount it.
[07:57] <hyper_ch> 64mb is the minimum
[07:57] <neclimdul> hmm... that wasn't what the ubuntu site said
[07:58] <hyper_ch> To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.
[07:58] <hyper_ch> Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM.
[07:59] <neclimdul> great
[07:59] <Jester45> it can run with less if you customize it and have swap
[07:59] <neclimdul> well, looks like I'll just spend a week installing gentoo then
[07:59] <hyper_ch> with 48mb ram I'd go with DSL
[07:59] <Jester45> i used 59mb ram once booting is done
[07:59] <Jester45> DSL is nice
[08:00] <neclimdul> I've got DSL-N running right now.  would like a decent installer though