[01:10] xp? [01:11] is there a xubuntu art irc channel === Jester45 [n=Jester45@d26-64.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:24] how do you make the settings in xvidtune to start after a reboot? [01:28] even pressing random keys to try and stumble on the hotkey doesn't work D:< [01:31] Lunis: did you enable some input manager, or what? === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu [01:32] rici, don't know, cat stepped on the keyboard and now i have a rather annoying keyboard floating on top of _everything_ [01:33] does it have normal sort of keys on it, or some different language? [01:33] normal keys [01:33] i can't right-click it's taskbar entry, i can't close it [01:33] i guess it's the cat-on-a-keyboard input method :) [01:34] rici, xD I think you may be right ;) [01:34] it's even there when i reboot [01:34] :x [01:34] does it have a name or anything? [01:34] did you try SCIM setup menu? [01:34] "Keyboard" === daeds [n=GenericU@cpc2-rdng6-0-0-cust785.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:36] i'm sure i've seen that, but i can't remember where [01:36] hey, does xubuntu suport prism wifi pcmcia cards? === litlebuda [n=linux@87-196-159-92.net.novis.pt] has joined #xubuntu [01:42] is there an app that can grab the process that's running behind a certain window? [01:48] yeah, i was just trying to remember its name [01:50] Lunis: xwininfo [01:50] Lunis: damn, doesn't show process id [01:51] nope :< === zillao [i=zillao@200.121.177.122] has joined #xubuntu [01:51] curses [01:52] why not [01:52] ps aux and fine what you think it is [01:52] find* [01:53] Jester45, so many procs, none of them look like what i need [01:53] i rember i used it before [02:03] could you pastebin it === litlebuda [n=litlebud@87-196-159-92.net.novis.pt] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.15.36] has joined #xubuntu [02:10] pastebin what, exactly? [02:13] ps aux [02:18] Jester45, http://attachr.com/9414 === litlebuda [n=linux@87-196-159-92.net.novis.pt] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-20-204.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === Jesta [n=Thomas_G@CPE-124-190-88-7.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #xubuntu === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-71-198-40-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === bp0 [n=opera@watertownDHCP-2.216-254-231.iw.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:53] Lunis, sorry i forgot about you :) do you know what matchbox-keybaord is? try "kill 2861" [02:54] Jesta, it's ok. yeah that was it. i wonder how it's activated in the first place? [02:54] Jester45^ [02:55] Jester45, hum. well that got rid of it thank God [02:55] Jester45, part of the matchbox minimalist enviroment === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B971EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.81.96.141] has joined #xubuntu [03:04] anyone know how to run startxfce4 once boot is complete (not using gdm) and running it with non root user i put it in rc.local but root runs it [03:04] so i dont get my config [03:04] and my X is root === Jesta [n=Thomas_G@CPE-124-190-88-7.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #xubuntu [] === OGDA [n=thomas@67-150-244-80.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@124.82.24.183] has joined #xubuntu === Akuma_ [n=martin@218.81.96.141] has joined #xubuntu === thomas__ [n=thomas@67-150-255-4.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === bart_17 [n=youandme@58.69.72.202] has joined #xubuntu === bart_17 [n=youandme@58.69.72.202] has left #xubuntu [] === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.241.135] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B9671F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === bart_17 [n=youandme@58.69.72.202] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@124.82.24.183] has left #xubuntu [] === nikolam [n=nikola@adsl-209-226.eunet.yu] has joined #xubuntu [08:25] Hello [08:25] Is it normal for Ubuntu to bring on ROOT shell up, every time it finds something is not just right (like changed UUID of partition on /etc/fstab and so..) [08:25] How to make it Not giving root privileges to anyone during boot? [08:25] if you remove the root=UUID [08:26] and uncomment the general partition it doesntdo that [08:26] Yes, but main issue here is root shell [08:26] uuid is second to that [08:27] its because its erroring during the mount because the uuid isnt correct [08:27] Aside of, that uuid is "by design" for ubuntu [08:27] and it drops you to a root shell when it errors [08:27] yes but I dont want to give every user root privileges! .. ;*( [08:28] remove the uuid and replace with /dev/hda1 or /sda1 and so on [08:28] Could i desable it, say in grub or in some boot script and so.. [08:28] YOU WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [08:28] LISTEN TO ME [08:28] i will do that [08:28] remove the uuid [08:28] ok [08:28] replace with the /dev/hdaN [08:28] or how ever its listed on your system [08:28] it should then mount fine [08:29] uncommenting means removing the # === Altiric [n=logan@d205-250-98-157.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:29] i just tried to repair uuid`s in /etc/fstab with vol_id command [08:29] Ok, Thanks [08:29] :) === Altiric [n=logan@d205-250-98-157.bchsia.telus.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:29] this way is much simpler [08:30] Yes but it is awful to whole system security just to `give` everyone who sits at machine root privileges ufff [08:31] arrg [08:31] if you do what im saying they dont [08:31] Ok, thanks [08:31] not my fault the devels take care of their systems and dont mess things up [08:31] so they list drives with uuids [08:34] :) === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-169-23.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu [08:39] hihi [08:39] hey hey [08:39] hey === evge [n=evge@evge23.ddns.HomeLan.BG] has joined #xubuntu === neenaoffline [n=neenaoff@unaffiliated/neenaoffline] has joined #xubuntu [09:16] which component of xfce uses python? does xfce use python at all ? === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-70-21-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [09:18] yes [09:18] mostof it is python [09:20] huh ? not xubuntu xfce [09:20] someone on #xfce said none of them [09:20] xfce is entirely C if I'm not mistaken. [09:20] yeah, thought so [09:21] allmost all the tools xubuntu adds are python [09:21] ah, only a couple of em like system-config-printer and update-manager === neenaoffline [n=neenaoff@unaffiliated/neenaoffline] has left #xubuntu [] [09:23] u sure? [09:25] yeah, pretty sure [09:25] the Restricted Drivers Manager perhaps [09:32] would this be ~/. [09:32] oops === mrpok [n=opera@ppp59-167-13-151.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:37] hey hey [09:37] hi [09:37] Got another problem for you. :) [09:38] ok [09:38] I can't seem to get k3b to burn from mp3 [09:38] Even after installing libk3b2-mp3 [09:39] I think a good music burner I've heard of is Serpentine [09:39] !serpentine [09:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about serpentine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [09:39] never tried it [09:40] !info serpentine [09:40] serpentine: An application for creating audio CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7-4ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 704 kB [09:40] there you go. [09:40] I know Exaile has a Serpentine plugin. [09:40] Sounds sweet. [09:41] OK, I'll check it out [09:42] woah... Serpentine may be small, but once it gets all the dependencies it'll take 20mb. :) [09:42] :( [09:42] gee, I should check what I recommend. [09:43] I think there is command-line version that doesn't need huge GNOME libs or something. I think that's what Exaile uses. Not sure, checking. [09:45] Exaile's Plugin thing isn't working right now. :) [09:46] :( I mean [09:53] Oh, it's not a problem, I've plenty of space. === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.22.167] has joined #xubuntu === michaelp1 [n=presario@60.52.22.167] has joined #xubuntu === michaelp1 [n=presario@60.52.22.167] has left #xubuntu [] [09:55] Serpentine needs the gstreamer mp3 files, apparently. [09:55] That may be the problem with k3b as well [09:56] I think for MP3 in gstreamer you need gstreamer-plugins-bad or something [09:56] I'd install all of the gstreamter plugins packages if I was you [10:01] Do I need gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3? What's fluendo? [10:30] hiho [10:32] TheSheep: rTorrent is really nice :) === zs6jce [n=christof@dsl-242-194-183.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === Starting logfile irclogs/xubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #xubuntu === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 [11:28] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) can never have to much [11:28] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: it's a trade off :) more swap = better for the system but less space for stuff ;) [11:28] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) true [11:28] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) zs6jce: you can have too much swap ;) [11:29] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) oh well, just go for something between 256 and 512mb [11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) while i have been typing the laptop did something [11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) now there is a blue screen [11:29] (zs6jce/#xubuntu) low mem on top [11:29] (hyper_ch/#xubuntu) yes, what does it say? [11:29] anything else? [11:29] and a flashing prompt at bottom [11:30] anything else? [11:30] i hate the unknown waiting for something that might happen or not [11:30] flashing prompt at the bottom is not good [11:30] still Low memory mode with blue screen and prompt at bottom [11:31] I don't recall this having happened when I installed it on the 64mb notebook [11:31] I guess you're out of luck ;( [11:31] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [11:31] lol [11:31] will get ram [11:31] the prompt is not good [11:31] then try again [11:31] or do a console install only [11:31] but ill remember the latin1 (for western euro) [11:32] does that notebook has a network adapter? [11:32] k ill try that because i found a website that guides you to install the xfce later [11:32] yes i believe modem and ethernet [11:32] zs6jce: installing it later is simple: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [11:32] (10 or 100 / [11:33] ok :) that's good [11:34] still flashing maybe is (i cant quess) [11:34] guess [11:34] oh well, you can let it run [11:34] it won't damage anything ;= [11:35] dont feel that harddisk or cdrom spinning [11:35] except for the life-span of the batteries but I think on such an old notebook the batteries don't have much life anyway after fully being charged [11:35] you could put it aside and go out to the beach or something ;) [11:35] battery`s are dead have to repack [11:36] wish i where at the beach then i wouldnt have to mess with pc and laptops [11:36] zs6jce: just make sure you don't invest too much money on that notebook [11:37] no beach here either [11:37] i paid about $40 for it [11:37] it is my first laptop [11:37] how much will the ram be? === hyper_ch doesn't ahve a laptop at all ;) [11:39] dont know think about $13 dollars for 128 but could be wrong cause im basing it on P2 PC ram [11:39] zs6jce: wow... well, here is ram for such old equipment not that cheap anymore because there's not much available ;( [11:39] still flashing [11:39] that's why I said not to invest too much [11:40] oh well, can't really tell you what to do with it... I tend to think because you have a prompt it died [11:40] yea its a toy so wont over capitalise [11:41] I need to get myself also a notebook [11:41] yea i think the install failed so i will try the command line [11:41] good luck :) [11:41] notebooks are xpensive and THEN some [11:41] thanks and good bye [11:42] I know they are expensive... but it would quite help me on my job [11:43] You should think of the notebook as an extension to the PC and use the PC as the storage and backup place [11:43] zs6jce: guess why I have 4 harddisks in my computer ;) [11:43] zs6jce: is that a .za callsign? [11:43] lol only have 3 cause i have a dvd to [11:44] Sysinfo for 'xubi': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running Xfce 4.4.0, CPU: AMD Sempron 2400+ at 1683 MHz (3371 bogomips), HD: 714/1009GB, RAM: 998/1010MB, 165 proc's, 7.18d up [11:44] yes for radio amateurs [11:45] cool, I'm doing my radio exam in September [11:45] lol which country [11:45] south africa too, western cape. so I'll have a ZR1 and then hopefully a ZS1 some point in the future [11:46] study hard!!! cause its hard [11:46] ;) [11:46] heh, ok. [11:46] my brother tried twice and failed === hhlp [n=hhlp@66.Red-83-32-11.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:46] ouch! [11:46] what does that exam include? [11:47] get the Andrew Roos guide (i think is at the sarl website) [11:47] radio procedures and electronic [11:48] electronic stuff like volts and amps and ohms [11:48] I have it (busy uploading quickly) [11:48] no clue [11:48] I've heard of volts and amps and ohms in physics class a long time ago ;) [11:49] yea thats the things you need to know but never use after wards [11:49] because the radios of today is more computer than radio [11:50] and there fore you cant really take out failed resistors and stuff like that [11:50] but it is use full is you want to build a power supply [11:50] ^^ [11:50] whats a good alternative to k3b if you wanna stay clear of kde libs and such? [11:50] brasero is ok. [11:51] gnomebaker [11:51] xfburner just doesn't hit it well [11:52] thanks i'll try them out [11:52] highvoltage there is a Dummies guide to "electronics" and "radio amateurs" that could be usefull. (try pirebay they have 135 of these books) [11:53] nerolinux is no good? [11:53] melsedir: is it free? [11:54] well no [11:54] so how do these chatrooms work. do you guys sit here and wait for noobs like me to come and bug you? [11:54] melsedir: then I don't consider it as good :) k3b is the best one out there [11:54] zs6jce: nah, doing other stuff and sometimes look in here [11:55] so some time you miss question the some one els gets it [11:55] basically I'm watching some vids and waiting for B5 to be converted in mkv and have this open [11:56] zs6jce: yes... sometimes we miss... but does that matter? [11:56] what is B5 [11:56] zs6jce: Babylon 5 - my fav. tv show [11:58] cool i would luv to be able to download all my favourite shows and movies but the 4gig cap is a reall prop cause i have to share it with the family and we are always over [11:58] the cap [11:58] by about 2gigs [11:58] lol [11:58] zs6jce: you mean download cap? [11:58] and south africa is the most xpensive [11:58] hmmm, I would hit that limit every other day or so [11:59] yip download and up = 4gig total or you pay extra [11:59] I KNow [11:59] Still have to wait to 21st to download again [11:59] then wait 20 days and download agian [11:59] lol [12:00] LOL xubuntu just inform me that No cdrom was detected [12:00] but how on earth did i load xubuntu [12:01] zs6jce: maybe an error on the disc [12:01] lol [12:01] at boot, select the integrity check [12:01] it asks for a cd-rom driver [12:01] so ill google [12:01] zs6jce: in the last 12h I have uploaded 3gb through bittorrent [12:01] NOoooooooooooooooooooo unfair [12:01] zs6jce: what? interesting [12:02] I love my cable connection [12:02] we at least got dsl so no more dailup for me [12:03] small mircals [12:03] damn i sux at spelling [12:03] well, in my new appartement I'll also have DSL [12:03] 5000kbit down / 500 kbit up for CHF 49.-/m [12:04] :( only have 384 down and think 192 up [12:04] or 15'000 down and 1'000 up for 89.-/m [12:05] the prob is that we only have one tel com provider and it owns the sea cable to europe. but there is a plan to get a new operator on it feet [12:06] well, until a couple of years ago it was sort of the same situation here in switzerland... only one telcom provider [12:06] prices have dropped since massivley [12:06] we pay ZAR 111 for line the dsl is zar 150 and then the cap is zar 179 [12:07] well, I hope for you that your telcom provider will soon have concurrence... it will drop on prices [12:08] and then some [12:08] lunch time [12:09] same time zone I guess :) [12:09] yip swiss and us is gmt +2 [12:09] bye === michaelpo [n=presario@60.52.22.167] has left #xubuntu [] [12:10] nah, we are gmt +1 but have daylight savings === faemir [n=faemir@81-6-223-243.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === kosch [n=kosch@unaffiliated/kosch] has joined #xubuntu [12:47] hyper_ch: hi im back. [12:47] zs6jce: ;) === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp73-216.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] K i have a couple of oooold 486 laptops do you have some advise as to which operating system to use. I wont be personaly using the laptops. But do you think i should try something like puppy linux. (Or maybe win 95 for the comfort of the users that are still stuck in windoze) [12:53] by the way i think my cdrom is not supported by xubuntu and there for it wont install. [12:53] but ill find a fix [12:54] cdrom should be supported [01:00] no cdrom is not supported its a matsushita and xubuntu said that it might not be supported and that i can pick from a list or use a stiffy. so ill try and install xubuntu agian. [01:02] i do feel like an idoit for missing the western europe language think [01:07] if you want to see an awesome nature clip go to youtube and search for "Battle at the Kruger" [01:07] 9.5mil ppl have seen it === anandanbu [n=phoenix@59.92.127.199] has joined #xubuntu [01:45] I have installed Ubuntu 7.04 with Windows XP and i need install LinuxMint 3.0 will it affect the ubuntu GRUB or other apps === anandanbu [n=phoenix@59.92.127.199] has left #xubuntu [] === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177903674.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === for3st [n=kubuntu@ppp24-215.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp73-216.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] === razor111 [n=peter@78.90.13.8] has joined #xubuntu [02:32] hi all, i'm looking for a program like pc suite to connect my nokia on xubuntu, ?? === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === __Krush [n=chatzill@85.232.194.197] has joined #xubuntu === zombie_monkey [n=krum@88.80.99.168] has joined #xubuntu [02:45] OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) CPU: Intel Pentium III, 851 MHz, 256KB Video: ATI Mobility 128 AGP 2X (DELL) (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: ESS Maestro 3 Memory: Used: 149/256MB Uptime: 1d 1h 21m 48s HD: Free: 11.00 GB/18.63 GB Connection: NETGEAR RangeMax(TM) Wireless PC Card WPN511 - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 108.0 Mbps (Rec: 129.14MB Sent: 17.21MB) [02:45] whats the best linux to use on this lappy? [02:46] ubuntu should run fine, but I'd go with xubuntu because I like it better ;) === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:48] yea i was told to use xubuntu [02:48] somthing like suse would be to much of a footprint rite? [02:49] suse is like puting an elephant in a cat carrier! [02:49] =] \ [02:49] lol [02:49] thought so [02:50] lol [02:50] cheers [02:50] im guna go see the red arrows fly and stuff [02:50] so ill bbl === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-34-215.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === nicolas7 [n=rage7@AAmiens-157-1-151-94.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === razor111 [n=peter@78.90.13.8] has left #xubuntu [] === expose [n=nobody@82.139.196.236] has joined #xubuntu [03:36] hi [03:36] How long is Lont Term Support? [03:37] 3 years standard 5 year server [03:37] thanks. [03:38] and, "server" means actually the same version, but desktop packages like openoffice excluded [03:38] ? [03:39] so, if i install a typical desktop, and after 4 years, when only server support is still available, the basic packages and maybe an apache i installed on that desktop will still be updated? [03:39] idk....read the "support" page on ubuntu.com === kosch [n=kosch@unaffiliated/kosch] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@216-107-0-210-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp264-71.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@124.82.26.184] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@124.82.26.184] has left #xubuntu [] === vidd_ [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACD4D274.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp264-71.adsl.forthnet.gr] has left #xubuntu [] === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.179.168] has joined #xubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@dsl-243-32-64.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #xubuntu === kstr [n=kstr@d54C13452.access.telenet.be] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACC8D38A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === sylvander_ [n=sylvande@ACC8D38A.ipt.aol.com] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@85.92.179.168] has joined #xubuntu === duglas [n=douglas@cpe-24-58-205-107.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === ericvmelo [n=eric@201.76.23.58] has joined #xubuntu [06:05] Can somebody help me? [06:05] !question | ericvmelo [06:05] ericvmelo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [06:09] Well, I have a Sound Blaster Live sound card on Xubuntu, but the sound is not working. I figured out so far, since my computer is DELL, that my sound card should use the module snd-emu10k1x instead of snd-emu10k1 that it is using now. I'm trying 'modprobe snd-emu10k1x', but it gives an error. [06:15] ericvmelo: you could maybe try and blacklist the snd-emu10k1 module [06:15] ericvmelo: but I'd search for that module name on the forum first [06:17] And possibly tell us what the error was. [06:17] Generic errors are hard to debug. [06:19] I'll try to blacklist and see what happens, then. I've already searched in a lot of forums and tried several things but it didn't work yet. [06:21] "FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1x (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko): Invalid argument [06:21] FATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k1x" === ericvmelo [n=eric@201.76.23.58] has left #xubuntu [] === ericvmelo [n=eric@201.76.23.58] has joined #xubuntu [06:29] I blacklisted snd-emu10k1, restarted, but it still can't install the module... :( === BFTD [n=thomas@67-150-245-170.oak.mdsg-pacwest.com] has joined #xubuntu === ericvmelo [n=eric@201.76.23.58] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === ericvmelo [n=eric@201.76.23.58] has left #xubuntu [] === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === litlebuda [n=linux@87-196-126-80.net.novis.pt] has joined #xubuntu [07:53] ok, i'm consistently running out of memory on the detecting hardware stage of the xubuntu install(granted this old lappy only has 48M of ram with 100M swap) [07:53] anyone have any suggestions(this is text mode on the alternate cd btw) [07:57] 48mb ram is not enough [07:57] as early as possible, switch to a busybox shell, create a much larger swap partition, and mount it. [07:57] 64mb is the minimum [07:57] hmm... that wasn't what the ubuntu site said [07:58] To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM. [07:58] Once installed, Xubuntu can run with 64 MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to use at least 128 MB RAM. [07:59] great [07:59] it can run with less if you customize it and have swap [07:59] well, looks like I'll just spend a week installing gentoo then [07:59] with 48mb ram I'd go with DSL [07:59] i used 59mb ram once booting is done [07:59] DSL is nice [08:00] I've got DSL-N running right now. would like a decent installer though === megaproxy [n=megaprox@78.146.223.109] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu