| mhb | hi folks | 12:38 |
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| RadiantFire | hi mhb | 01:51 |
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| ScottK | Who was asking about the splash screen being off center on non-wide screen displays? Whoever it was, it is. | 03:51 |
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| ScottK | mhb: You did restricted manager for KDE, right? | 04:01 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | FF, UVF Thursday, anything we need updated? | ||
| === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 16 09:11:43 2007 | ||
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| Hobbsee | oh i love bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/133478 | 07:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133478 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu package manager (wishlist)" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 07:07 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: erk | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | mornign Riddell | 09:05 |
| Riddell | greetings Hobbsee | 09:10 |
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| Tonio_ | hey Hobbsee :) | 09:38 |
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| Hobbsee | hiya Tonio_! | 09:38 |
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| _StefanS_ | morning | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: heyy :) | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: you fresh? | 10:09 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yop :) | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yeah I'm okay | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I'm working on the problems with obexftp | 10:11 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: oh yep.. kdebluetooth.. | 10:11 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: not very good code, is it ? :) | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: no problem with it | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: do you have problems with the code ? :) | 10:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: didn't fdoving complain about speed and stuff ? | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I wasn't there for 2 weeks, so I don't know | 10:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: well I just discovered that uploading a mp3 file using bluetooth is _very_ slow when you're used to regular wireless hehe | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that's just bluetooth | 10:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: but I guess it has always been slow :) | 10:14 |
| _StefanS_ | yes. | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: bluetooth is slow | 10:14 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: uhm, I was wondering why some of my machines use kdesu instead of kdesudo for adept packagemanagement? | 10:14 |
| _StefanS_ | kinda odd. | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum...... have any adept*.Desktop file in your profile ? | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | checking | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: nope | 10:16 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: weird..... | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: only in /usr/share/applications | 10:17 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: is the dpkg-divert applied ? | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: how would you apply that? | 10:17 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: dpkg-divert --list | grep kdesu | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | ah.. | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: on the machine that does use kdesudo there's a diversion present :) | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: on my laptop I havent got it. | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: then purge and reinstall kdesudo | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | righto. | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | and check for the divertion again | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | gotcha. | 10:19 |
| _StefanS_ | yes :) - now its there. | 10:19 |
| _StefanS_ | thanks alot | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | oki :) | 10:20 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: so anything I could help out with ? I've been compiling lpia / kde while you were away | 10:20 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: its almost done now :) | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: there is a segfault with the "paired devices" kdebluetooth tool afaik | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: would be nice fixing this one | 10:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: alright, I see it. | 10:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: will compile with debug and fix. | 10:22 |
| _StefanS_ | :D | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: any freeze at the moment or is that just the feature freeze ? | 10:23 |
| _StefanS_ | FF I think. | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ? | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: UVF | 10:24 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: is it still there ? | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | s/still/already ? | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | has been since thursday | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: that's annoying for kdebluetooth | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | http://rafb.net/p/uy2S6m56.html hmm, drat | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: there are UVFe's | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: so we need an exception for every svn sync with kdebluetooth........ | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | damn.... | 10:25 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: depends how sensible the release team is | 10:26 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: Riddell's the head, so... | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hehe, indeed :) | 10:26 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: person needs kicking in #ubuntu | 10:26 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yes, ihave a !ops highlight | 10:26 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: if there's no more features going into kdebluetooth I'm happy to give it a general UVF exception | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just uploaded obexftp with a removed universe builddep, now I'm checking at the security problems ian poited out | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is just bugfixes atm | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but as there are commits every day.... :) | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I also notices there isa problem with the ksplash, as the background isn't centered, is that known issue ? should I fix ? | 10:28 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: known issue; please fix. | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the point is that the image is the same size as the login box, dunno if that's wanted..... | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_, Riddell shouldn't that box be smaller btw ? | 10:29 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it's a known issue, fix welcome (needs working out which figure in mooding to change) | 10:29 |
| Riddell | it's best if it's the same size | 10:29 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: did you notice that if you select that the bluetooth icon should only appear when there's a connection; there's just an empty space where it would sit in the tray bar. | 10:30 |
| Riddell | reminds me, ken did a new version I should upload | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure, but the content isn't the same.... | 10:30 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: thanks for uploading rpm btw. | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: centering this will result a box "full of empty" space :) | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ? I'll wait for your upload to fix then :) | 10:30 |
| Riddell | the upload won't fix anything | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oki | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well we can center this, but that'll be strange as the 5 only icons will be in a hudge box no ? | 10:31 |
| Riddell | no stranger than the box resizing itself | 10:33 |
| Riddell | hmm, kwwii has committed a smaller dialog for ksplash | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay I'll test this | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | sorry for the stupid question but as I didn't touch the computer for 2 weeks..... any news concerning the nspluginviewer issue ? | 10:36 |
| Riddell | none | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | ok | 10:36 |
| Riddell | although openoffice got a fix | 10:36 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: what fix it that ? :) | 10:44 |
| Riddell | whatever is needed to properly initialise glib/gtk | 10:44 |
| Riddell | which obviously can't be done to flah, acroread, opera etc | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | argh.. | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | so who changed the api ? :) | 10:44 |
| _StefanS_ | I thought those things were supposed to be stable | 10:44 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/119664 isnt actually fixed. | 10:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 119664 in kdepim "Kubuntu upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy failed due to conflicting file in kdepimlibs" [High,Confirmed] | 10:45 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: well quite. however its arguably not an API change but that those programmes were never using glib correctly in the first place which means upstream don't care | 10:46 |
| Riddell | they closed with bug with NOTGNOME, so nice to know that interoperability has such a priority | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm thats great... so screw the users. | 10:46 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: ok | 10:46 |
| _StefanS_ | jeeez. | 10:47 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: may I upload latest kds including kwwii's changes | 11:33 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: tested here, works, even if that doesn't seem to be the final version (ken comment on upload). I just uploaded | 11:45 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: thanks | 11:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning kdebluetooth, I must say I don't know what to say to ian concerning the potential security issues.... | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's a matter of code, would you please have a quick look ? | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportObexftp | 11:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no isue concerning the builddep, I removed it (obsolete), and I'll ping debian concerning this | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: looks to me that obewftp is used within the ioslave obex2:/ and therefore should cause any big trouble reguarding to security | 11:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I've no idea, I've never used bluetooth, maybe upstream could give a good answer | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well, grep ftp on the source gives a good idea too :) | 11:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll ping ian this afternoon | 11:52 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: What was the "Urk"? For attempting Dapper --> Gutsy? It almost worked. | 02:14 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: really? | 02:34 |
| Riddell | ScottK: did you keep a list of problems? | 02:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I have a lot of notes. | 02:34 |
| ScottK | The biggest one (as yet unresolved) is the no tty problem that people who tried Dapper -> Feisty reported. | 02:35 |
| ScottK | I only found one KDE related issue that didn't clearly have it's origin in a lower level problem. | 02:35 |
| ScottK | Switching from sys v init to Upstart was exciting. | 02:36 |
| ScottK | I'll research the one thing that looked KDE related and give you a report. | 02:36 |
| Riddell | what problem is that? | 02:39 |
| ScottK | libqt-mt couldn't be upgraded. I really need to get through my notes and sort it out. I mostly just wrote stuff down as I was doing it. | 02:40 |
| ScottK | I ended up having to get down to a very minimal system, so I'm not sure that wasn't the fault of another package. | 02:41 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionKvKbd | 05:52 |
| nixternal | Riddell: I just ran the commands he used and it built fine | 05:53 |
| manchicken | nosrednaekim: I replied to your comment on my blog :) | 05:54 |
| Riddell | nixternal: does it run "make -f Makefile.cvs"? | 05:54 |
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| nixternal | yes it does | 05:55 |
| Riddell | nixternal: it needs to build-dep on autoconf I guess | 05:55 |
| nixternal | OK, test building and then I will upload the new revision | 05:58 |
| Riddell | jimbi jambi http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/jambi.png | 06:24 |
| nixternal | hehe | 06:25 |
| nixternal | so does that mean you are working on getting it packaged? :) | 06:26 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:30 |
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| nixternal | I start up my advanced java courses this week, and I want to show them how much better Java is with Qt :) | 06:30 |
| nixternal | and advanced c++...this is the class I really want to do to knock my c++ rust off | 06:31 |
| nixternal | sucks that we have to use the STL, but hey, learning C++ properly is a good thing right now | 06:31 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: did we lose kio-sysinfo packaging in the revu move? | 07:58 |
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| Riddell | mhb: ping, last day of SoC? | 08:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: considering I have it my HD, no... gotta reupload as soon as I fixed your last comments | 08:21 |
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| nixternal | ScottK: I got word that I might have the possibility of doing a small tour of duty | 10:46 |
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| ScottK | nixternal: Great (I assume)! | 10:54 |
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| mhb | Riddell: hi, yes | 11:17 |
| mhb | Riddell: I didnt get much coding done these last few days :o| | 11:18 |
| coreymon77 | there we go | 11:19 |
| coreymon77 | i sent my answers to the questions and concerns | 11:20 |
| mhb | ScottK: yes | 11:20 |
| ScottK | mhb: How about one of these http://laserjock.wordpress.com/2007/08/18/gsoc-ubuntu-bootloader-manager-02/ for KDE for Gutsy +1? | 11:20 |
| ScottK | mhb: Also I've got a restricted-manager problem that there's already a bug on, so I thought I'd check and see if you needed any data for triaging. | 11:22 |
| mhb | ScottK: which one? | 11:22 |
| ScottK | Let me look. | 11:22 |
| ScottK | mhb Bug #133218 | 11:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 133218 in restricted-manager "restricted-manager-kde crashed with TypeError in description()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133218 | 11:23 |
| mhb | ScottK: is it a kde only bug? | 11:24 |
| ScottK | mhb: Dunno. I only run KDE. | 11:25 |
| mhb | ScottK: and the bootloader-manager is actually using a backend that was written by me | 11:34 |
| ScottK | mhb: Cool. When is the KDE front end going to be ready? | 11:34 |
| mhb | ScottK: xerosis wanted to help with the KDE frontend but he left | 11:35 |
| mhb | ScottK: and I was busy with SoC | 11:35 |
| mhb | ScottK: but yes, gutsy+1 could be the one | 11:35 |
| ScottK | That would be great. | 11:35 |
| ScottK | It's going to miss Gutsy for Ubuntu, so we could both have it at the same time for Gutsy +1. | 11:35 |
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