[12:38] hi folks === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549575F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-092.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-Unit [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-52-67.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] hi mhb === mbiebl [n=michael@e180073138.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-Unit [n=jdong@SIMMONS-FIVE-TWENTY-THREE.MIT.EDU] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:51] Who was asking about the splash screen being off center on non-wide screen displays? Whoever it was, it is. === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@adsl-72-50-53-147.prtc.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:01] mhb: You did restricted manager for KDE, right? === innovati__ is now known as innovati === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-064.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosredna_ekim [n=michael@03-149.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | KDE 4.0 beta 1 -- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php | FF, UVF Thursday, anything we need updated? === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Thu Aug 16 09:11:43 2007 === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-053-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@adsl-72-50-53-147.prtc.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:07] oh i love bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/133478 [07:07] Launchpad bug 133478 in kubuntu-meta "Kubuntu package manager (wishlist)" [Undecided,Won't fix] === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Shely [n=Sea@221.201.51.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === \sh is now known as \sh_away === \sh_away is now known as \sh === apachelogger [n=me@N949P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:05] ScottK: erk [09:05] mornign Riddell [09:10] greetings Hobbsee === serzholino_ [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F19B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] hey Hobbsee :) === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:38] hiya Tonio_! === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vprints [n=laur@213-35-234-203-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-149-196.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549575F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:09] <_StefanS_> morning [10:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: heyy :) [10:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: you fresh? === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:11] _StefanS_: yop :) [10:11] _StefanS_: yeah I'm okay [10:11] _StefanS_: I'm working on the problems with obexftp [10:11] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: oh yep.. kdebluetooth.. [10:12] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: not very good code, is it ? :) [10:12] _StefanS_: no problem with it [10:13] _StefanS_: do you have problems with the code ? :) [10:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: didn't fdoving complain about speed and stuff ? [10:13] _StefanS_: I wasn't there for 2 weeks, so I don't know [10:13] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: well I just discovered that uploading a mp3 file using bluetooth is _very_ slow when you're used to regular wireless hehe [10:14] _StefanS_: that's just bluetooth [10:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but I guess it has always been slow :) [10:14] <_StefanS_> yes. [10:14] _StefanS_: bluetooth is slow [10:14] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: uhm, I was wondering why some of my machines use kdesu instead of kdesudo for adept packagemanagement? [10:15] <_StefanS_> kinda odd. [10:15] _StefanS_: hum...... have any adept*.Desktop file in your profile ? [10:15] <_StefanS_> checking [10:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nope [10:17] _StefanS_: weird..... [10:17] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: only in /usr/share/applications [10:17] _StefanS_: is the dpkg-divert applied ? [10:17] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: how would you apply that? [10:17] _StefanS_: dpkg-divert --list | grep kdesu [10:18] <_StefanS_> ah.. [10:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: on the machine that does use kdesudo there's a diversion present :) [10:18] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: on my laptop I havent got it. [10:18] _StefanS_: then purge and reinstall kdesudo [10:18] <_StefanS_> righto. [10:18] and check for the divertion again [10:19] <_StefanS_> gotcha. [10:19] <_StefanS_> yes :) - now its there. [10:19] <_StefanS_> thanks alot [10:20] oki :) [10:20] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: so anything I could help out with ? I've been compiling lpia / kde while you were away === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: its almost done now :) [10:21] _StefanS_: there is a segfault with the "paired devices" kdebluetooth tool afaik [10:21] _StefanS_: would be nice fixing this one [10:22] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: alright, I see it. [10:22] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: will compile with debug and fix. [10:22] <_StefanS_> :D [10:23] _StefanS_: any freeze at the moment or is that just the feature freeze ? [10:23] <_StefanS_> FF I think. [10:24] Hobbsee: ? [10:24] Tonio_: UVF === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:24] Hobbsee: is it still there ? [10:25] s/still/already ? [10:25] yes [10:25] has been since thursday [10:25] Hobbsee: that's annoying for kdebluetooth [10:25] http://rafb.net/p/uy2S6m56.html hmm, drat [10:25] Tonio_: there are UVFe's [10:25] Hobbsee: so we need an exception for every svn sync with kdebluetooth........ [10:25] damn.... [10:26] Tonio_: depends how sensible the release team is [10:26] Tonio_: Riddell's the head, so... [10:26] Hobbsee: hehe, indeed :) [10:26] Hobbsee: person needs kicking in #ubuntu [10:26] Riddell: yes, ihave a !ops highlight [10:27] Tonio_: if there's no more features going into kdebluetooth I'm happy to give it a general UVF exception [10:27] Riddell: just uploaded obexftp with a removed universe builddep, now I'm checking at the security problems ian poited out [10:27] Riddell: it is just bugfixes atm [10:28] Riddell: but as there are commits every day.... :) [10:28] Riddell: I also notices there isa problem with the ksplash, as the background isn't centered, is that known issue ? should I fix ? [10:29] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: known issue; please fix. [10:29] _StefanS_: the point is that the image is the same size as the login box, dunno if that's wanted..... [10:29] _StefanS_, Riddell shouldn't that box be smaller btw ? [10:29] Tonio_: it's a known issue, fix welcome (needs working out which figure in mooding to change) [10:29] it's best if it's the same size [10:30] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: did you notice that if you select that the bluetooth icon should only appear when there's a connection; there's just an empty space where it would sit in the tray bar. [10:30] reminds me, ken did a new version I should upload [10:30] Riddell: sure, but the content isn't the same.... [10:30] <_StefanS_> Riddell: thanks for uploading rpm btw. [10:30] Riddell: centering this will result a box "full of empty" space :) [10:30] Riddell: ah ? I'll wait for your upload to fix then :) [10:31] the upload won't fix anything [10:31] Riddell: oki [10:31] Riddell: well we can center this, but that'll be strange as the 5 only icons will be in a hudge box no ? [10:33] no stranger than the box resizing itself [10:34] hmm, kwwii has committed a smaller dialog for ksplash [10:35] Riddell: okay I'll test this [10:36] sorry for the stupid question but as I didn't touch the computer for 2 weeks..... any news concerning the nspluginviewer issue ? [10:36] none [10:36] ok [10:36] although openoffice got a fix [10:44] <_StefanS_> Riddell: what fix it that ? :) [10:44] whatever is needed to properly initialise glib/gtk [10:44] which obviously can't be done to flah, acroread, opera etc [10:44] <_StefanS_> argh.. [10:44] <_StefanS_> so who changed the api ? :) [10:44] <_StefanS_> I thought those things were supposed to be stable [10:45] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/119664 isnt actually fixed. [10:45] Launchpad bug 119664 in kdepim "Kubuntu upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy failed due to conflicting file in kdepimlibs" [High,Confirmed] [10:46] _StefanS_: well quite. however its arguably not an API change but that those programmes were never using glib correctly in the first place which means upstream don't care [10:46] they closed with bug with NOTGNOME, so nice to know that interoperability has such a priority [10:46] <_StefanS_> uhm thats great... so screw the users. [10:46] Hobbsee: ok [10:47] <_StefanS_> jeeez. === Arby [n=richard@82.152.178.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@hoth.linagora.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:33] Riddell: may I upload latest kds including kwwii's changes === cain_ [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] Riddell: tested here, works, even if that doesn't seem to be the final version (ken comment on upload). I just uploaded [11:46] Tonio_: thanks [11:47] Riddell: concerning kdebluetooth, I must say I don't know what to say to ian concerning the potential security issues.... [11:47] Riddell: that's a matter of code, would you please have a quick look ? [11:47] Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportObexftp [11:48] Riddell: no isue concerning the builddep, I removed it (obsolete), and I'll ping debian concerning this [11:50] Riddell: looks to me that obewftp is used within the ioslave obex2:/ and therefore should cause any big trouble reguarding to security [11:51] Tonio_: I've no idea, I've never used bluetooth, maybe upstream could give a good answer [11:51] yup [11:51] Riddell: well, grep ftp on the source gives a good idea too :) [11:52] Riddell: I'll ping ian this afternoon === serzholino_ is now known as serzholino === serzholino_ [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N949P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387C8B0.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387C8B0.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned 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For attempting Dapper --> Gutsy? It almost worked. === \sh is now known as \sh_away === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-017-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maini10 [n=maini10@host88-49-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] ScottK: really? [02:34] ScottK: did you keep a list of problems? [02:34] Riddell: I have a lot of notes. [02:35] The biggest one (as yet unresolved) is the no tty problem that people who tried Dapper -> Feisty reported. [02:35] I only found one KDE related issue that didn't clearly have it's origin in a lower level problem. [02:36] Switching from sys v init to Upstart was exciting. [02:36] I'll research the one thing that looked KDE related and give you a report. [02:39] what problem is that? [02:40] libqt-mt couldn't be upgraded. I really need to get through my notes and sort it out. I mostly just wrote stuff down as I was doing it. [02:41] I ended up having to get down to a very minimal system, so I'm not sure that wasn't the fault of another package. === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-149-196.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflyi1g [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.179] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK is now known as ScottK2 === apachelogger [n=me@N949P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=renate@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK-confused [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ScottK-confused is now known as ScottK === Knightlust [n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495593E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.179] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F19B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F19B9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N760P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387EA18.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-088.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387F0EF.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:52] Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionKvKbd [05:53] Riddell: I just ran the commands he used and it built fine [05:54] nosrednaekim: I replied to your comment on my blog :) [05:54] nixternal: does it run "make -f Makefile.cvs"? === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:55] yes it does [05:55] nixternal: it needs to build-dep on autoconf I guess [05:58] OK, test building and then I will upload the new revision [06:24] jimbi jambi http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/jambi.png [06:25] hehe [06:26] so does that mean you are working on getting it packaged? :) [06:30] yes === nixternal faints [06:30] I start up my advanced java courses this week, and I want to show them how much better Java is with Qt :) [06:31] and advanced c++...this is the class I really want to do to knock my c++ rust off [06:31] sucks that we have to use the STL, but hey, learning C++ properly is a good thing right now === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@unaffiliated/coreymon77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD95094AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:58] apachelogger: did we lose kio-sysinfo packaging in the revu move? === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:02] mhb: ping, last day of SoC? [08:21] Riddell: considering I have it my HD, no... gotta reupload as soon as I fixed your last comments === apachelogger [n=me@N760P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ [n=me@N908P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger === apachelogger is now known as rubine === rubine is now known as apachelogger === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-79-178-60-169.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180066192.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DAE6.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === maniacmusician_ [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:46] ScottK: I got word that I might have the possibility of doing a small tour of duty === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:54] nixternal: Great (I assume)! === rbrunhuber_ [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:17] Riddell: hi, yes [11:18] Riddell: I didnt get much coding done these last few days :o| [11:19] there we go [11:20] i sent my answers to the questions and concerns [11:20] ScottK: yes [11:20] mhb: How about one of these http://laserjock.wordpress.com/2007/08/18/gsoc-ubuntu-bootloader-manager-02/ for KDE for Gutsy +1? [11:22] mhb: Also I've got a restricted-manager problem that there's already a bug on, so I thought I'd check and see if you needed any data for triaging. [11:22] ScottK: which one? [11:22] Let me look. [11:23] mhb Bug #133218 [11:23] Launchpad bug 133218 in restricted-manager "restricted-manager-kde crashed with TypeError in description()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133218 [11:24] ScottK: is it a kde only bug? [11:25] mhb: Dunno. I only run KDE. [11:34] ScottK: and the bootloader-manager is actually using a backend that was written by me [11:34] mhb: Cool. When is the KDE front end going to be ready? [11:35] ScottK: xerosis wanted to help with the KDE frontend but he left [11:35] ScottK: and I was busy with SoC [11:35] ScottK: but yes, gutsy+1 could be the one [11:35] That would be great. [11:35] It's going to miss Gutsy for Ubuntu, so we could both have it at the same time for Gutsy +1. === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-127.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel