=== kwwii [n=kwwii@p549575F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:00] kwwii: Nice to see that you published some bits to the gutsy incoming page. [01:00] troy_s: there will be more coming soon [01:01] wholly crappers [01:01] have you tried the new melt / etc mode in inkscape? [01:01] if nothing else, it might show people what kind of colors we want [01:01] all i can say is _wow_ [01:02] troy_s: no, but I saw the function - i used something similar in illustrator before [01:02] kwwii: Actually, that was a question -- what are the odds that you could wrestle for some colour into it? As in pump a pinch of those triplets we worked out decades ago. [01:02] really handy for just drawing [01:02] kwwii: It has roughen too. Very amazing. [01:02] hehe, funny enough I was just looking at the mail you sent me with the color palettes ;-) [01:03] kwwii: I really think that in terms of the minute 'increments' (if you can call them that) that might be a very valuable one. [01:04] kwwii: One further step towards something akin to a palette. [01:04] yepp, that was what I was thinking too [01:04] kwwii: Also, what are the bits you are going to require for an included optional theme? [01:04] no requirements at all [01:04] kwwii: GDM / Wallpaper? [01:04] kwwii: Elements I was speaking. [01:04] kwwii: Sorry. [01:05] we need to get people contributing - I'll include anything that is halfway decent [01:06] we need to reassure people that their work is appreciated [01:06] kwwii: Hrm... so where will this end up? [01:07] kwwii: And people contributing is relatively easy if you can spec something up to the discreet componentry. [01:07] kwwii: For example, with the wallpaper, to prevent the scattering of effort you could perhaps spec up several details that you want included and stamp a palette onto the requirements. [01:07] anything that is not a "full" theme (gdm and wallpaper or more) will end up in an extra package called something like "community themes/artwork" [01:07] kwwii: With that very clear 'don't step outside of this palette' rules. [01:08] kwwii: So the question then turns to 'what is a full theme'? [01:08] kwwii: As there isn't really a good 'artwork' gui to handle all of the bits. [01:08] a full theme would be at least gdm, wallpaper and color scheme, I guess [01:09] yes, giving a palette to stick to would make things harder at first for people, but better in the long run [01:09] the missing gui functionality is the worst part of all [01:09] because something that is not a total theme would only end up in the list of possible parts [01:11] kwwii: I was also quite impressed that you took that particle smasher idea from ages ago. It works well and COULD appeal to shuttlebutt. [01:11] kwwii: He seems into that space / tech thing. [01:11] kwwii: If I had to loosely describe it. [01:11] yeah, he found my version a bit too reddish but I am still working on it [01:12] kwwii: And if you provide say, three colours for the guys to work with you at least eliminate all the rubbish that people tend to poop out. [01:12] kwwii: How the hell is it too reddish? Jeebus h christ. [01:12] kwwii: The palette is almost a must-have considering the ultimate judge. [01:14] hehe, no doubt - he knows exactly what he wants - if only we all could understand that better [01:14] I'll add some color stuff to the wiki page tomorrow [01:15] time for sleep soon [01:15] kwwii: he has no clue exactly what he wants [01:15] kwwii: In fact, he tends to be closer to an amoeba than anything else. [01:15] kwwii: When it comes to him weighing in on styles. [01:16] ;-) [01:22] kwwii: Oh crappers [01:22] kwwii: I forgot to mention, perhaps attach the breezy/hoary walls to show the people what you are talking about. [01:22] kwwii: On the wiki page -- pretty sure they have no clue. [01:22] kwwii: iirc bersace put them in the archives on the wiki [01:23] kwwii: or at least one of them [01:23] kwwii: probably a good 'update' to your original email. [01:23] good idea, I was wondering if anyone even looked at them [01:24] kwwii: I don't think so :) [01:24] kwwii: But it certainly would help to steer towards something usable or generate decent ideas as 'spins' on that implementation [01:25] kwwii: I wonder who did those earlier walls. [01:26] one of them was a guy we paid to do feisty work, but he got somehow just disappeared after offering random crap [01:26] and the other one was a guy who worked for the advertising agency we used to use (now we have a new one) [01:27] well, I should be more on the ball with this stuff, but I am also working on several other projects at the same time [01:27] I've talked to them about that though and in the future I will do almost nothing but desktop work [01:29] I've got my eyes open for a few new people - artists, usablity, interface design, etc. [01:31] anyway...time for sleep - see you soon === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-artwork.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Topic for #ubuntu-artwork: Welcome to #ubuntu-artwork! http://www.uigarden.net/english/global-market-global-emotion-global-design === Topic (#ubuntu-artwork): set by troy_s at Sun Aug 12 21:58:01 2007 === slitherx_ [n=slitherx@190.161.7.182] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === tonic-pushcart [n=tonic@203-114-182-35.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #Ubuntu-Artwork === klepas [n=klepas@ppp167-251-133.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549575F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #Ubuntu-Artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:11] hi === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Egalfire [n=michael@ACD6BC87.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Egalfire [n=michael@ACD6BC87.ipt.aol.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Ex-Chat"] === klepas [n=klepas@60-242-104-119.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549575F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h125n2fls306o1003.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === peanutb [n=paulb@phns1.gotdns.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === joejaxx [n=joejaxx@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nothlit`alpha [n=nothlit@64.62.231.84] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nothlit [n=nothlit@fluxbuntu/developer/nothlit] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === tonic-pushcart [n=tonic@203-114-182-35.dsl.sta.inspire.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === mono_ [n=valentyn@gtng-d9bf7d8b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495593E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === alex-weej [n=alex@cpc2-darl3-0-0-cust237.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host121-207-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:35] hi [09:29] bonjour === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@129.120.244.118] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === TBZ [n=st33ldi9@rrcs-24-172-7-26.midsouth.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork