[01:40] <paran> Hi. I just installed gutsy using the latest kubuntu daily (20070819) installed. it failed to find any installable kernels
[01:41] <paran> in the log console on tty4 it said "base-installer: info: Found kernels ''"
[01:42] <paran> this was on i386
[01:43] <paran> can't really write a good bug report as I didn't have time to collect more information, I simply installed the kernel-image deb using dpkg :)
[08:02] <superm1> evand, before you release today, i've got a few minor changes that'd i'd like if you could merge in at the mythbuntu branch.  none of them should be detrimental to the mainline binaries prior to tribe-5
[05:54] <fneto> Hi all! Can anyone help me with a problem in the debian installer?
[05:54] <fneto> It is my first time on this channel.
[05:58] <evand> fneto: feel free to ask any questions and if someone can answer them, they will reply when they can
[06:00] <fneto> Thanks. I'm customizing Ubuntu to add some programs that we developed for internal use in our company ok!
[06:01] <fneto> I have created an extras dir and add all of my software to it. I've re-signed the packages and created a pressed file. My installation is working perfectly for now!
[06:02] <fneto> My problem is that my iso file is using 798Mb of space, and my company's PC's only have CD-ROM drives. So I'like to break my installation in 2 cd's.
[06:02] <fneto> How can I do that?
[06:16] <evand> fneto: I'm checking on that for you.  I don't know the answer myself, but there's another developer who definitely does.
[06:20] <glledo> what about using those (more expensive) 800MB cd-rs?
[06:23] <fneto> my problem is that I'not finding these 800Mb CD for buy in my country. I can't use a netboot installation image because some pcs are on places that have only dial-up access
[06:24] <btm> perhaps there are other packages on the cd that could be removed?
[06:24] <fneto> and probably I will need to put 20Mb of data  inside the cd
[06:24] <evand> fneto: Support for that in Ubuntu has always been disabled to make using a single CD as easy as possible, and it's probably too big a change to easily unwind.  cjwatson, the lead developer on the installer, suggested that you have people insert the second CD after installation, which will result in the desktop prompting them to add the CD to their sources.
[06:25] <fneto> I try to remove some packages, but even packages that I will not need like gimp are dependecies of anothers that I want to use
[06:26] <fneto> Yeah this idea of the second CD is probably the most useful thing to do!
[06:27] <fneto> But let me ask you something if I use a second CD should I use an specific structure on this CD or only copy all the deb packages on the root is enough?
[06:33] <evand> fneto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageCDs
[06:36] <fneto> ok I'm reading it now! I will follow the instructions and test it again!
[06:38] <fneto> And let me ask you another thing? I customize the desktop menus and appearance. How can I distribute these customizations in the install CD?? Do I need to repackge ?
[06:38] <fneto> what packages should I change?
[06:49] <btm> fneto: you may want to look into change management like cfengine or popper.
[07:27] <fneto> thank for all I need to go now! Later I will connect again ok! See you!
[10:41] <xivulon> evand, did you try preseeding with the live cd?
[10:41] <evand> several times in the past, but it's been a while since I've tried it
[10:41] <evand> it should work everywhere except possibly in migration-assistant
[10:44] <xivulon> can you please remind me what the kernel argument is?
[10:44] <evand> url= or file=
[10:44] <evand> I use url=http://evalicious.com/evan.seed to test.  You're welcome to use it.
[10:45] <xivulon> hm I tried that, but it just booted into  the desktop
[10:45] <evand> it will.  We still need to wire everything up so that ubiquity automatically starts in automatic mode
[10:45] <evand> so for the time being you'll need to call ubiquity with --automatic
[10:46] <xivulon> ah that what I forgot
[10:57] <xivulon> evand, it freezes, looks like there are segfault issues as well.
[10:57] <evand> arghh kernel oops
[10:57] <evand> xivulon: what freezes?
[10:58] <xivulon> I guess when X has to start, my VM does not accept any input, have to shut it down. Not sure if that is when the autoinstaller is starting, possibly the same mount -o move issue?
[11:02] <xivulon> trying to boot without quiet splash
[11:02] <evand> yikes, that one is new to me
[11:02] <xivulon> There are segmentation faults after and before init-bottom
[11:03] <xivulon> but it's going on
[11:04] <evand> oh yeah, I should point out that there's no way you'll get a working install in the livecd currently
[11:04] <evand> as those segfaults you're seeing are the result of the mount bug
[11:04] <evand> which means /rofs doesn't get properly mounted
[11:04] <evand> and thus cannot be copied into the new filesystem
[11:04] <evand> the installer should work fine up until you hit the install button though
[11:05] <xivulon> it loaded the desktop, is it ignoring url=... --automatic?
[11:08] <evand> xivulon: if you have answered questions in the debconf database (less /var/cache/debconf/config.dat or debconf-communicate), then you know url= worked.  If you run ubiquity in --debug mode (in addition to --automatic) you should see lines like 30 question skipped
[11:08] <evand> or something along those lines
[11:09] <xivulon> ahh so you still have to click on "install", I thought the installer would be launched during the boot process without reaching the desktop
[11:10] <evand> not yet
[11:10] <evand> that's on the todo list
[11:14] <xivulon> not sure all preseed options went in, US English is set as seen, but I do not see things like hostname and username.
[11:15] <xivulon> evand, did you tell colin about the "HD preseed scanner"? I mentioned it on my email but had no comment on it
[11:17] <evand> xivulon: indeed, I believe he will reply to your email tomorrow or within the week.  It came up on a call with him and I believe his response was that he will need to give it some thought.
[11:27] <CIA-20> ubiquity: evand * r2191 ubiquity/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
[11:27] <CIA-20> ubiquity: * Remove accidentally leftover debugging code
[11:27] <CIA-20> ubiquity: * Repeat changes to page handling code to kdeui.
[11:27] <xivulon> evand, I may scrap together a script to add to local-top from the reminder of lupin
[11:28] <evand> ok
[11:28] <xivulon> evand, on a separate topic, are windows line ending in preseed supported?
[11:28] <evand> xivulon: good question, I'm not really sure
[11:28] <xivulon> they did not use to be supported but did not test
[11:28] <xivulon> since the preseed is in windows, some users will probably want to edit it manually before using it
[11:29] <xivulon> so supporting windows line endings is the safest option
[11:29] <xivulon> in lupin I used to convert them (in a poor fashion), but it would be better to support them directly
[11:31] <evand> I'll bring it up with cjwatson and make the change if he agrees.
[11:31] <xivulon> thanks
[11:31] <CIA-20> ubiquity: evand * r2192 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[11:31] <CIA-20> ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: partman-
[11:31] <CIA-20> ubiquity:  basicfilesystems 54ubuntu3, partman-partitioning 50ubuntu2.
[11:42] <CIA-20> ubiquity: evand * r2193 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.5.11
[12:04] <superm1> evand, will you be able to get our changes for mythbuntu's frontend merged into 1.5.11, or is it too late for that?