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| === Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 20 Aug 22:00 UTC: Forum Council meeting | 21 Aug 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 22 Aug 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 22 Aug 20:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Aug 15:00 UTC: Screencast Team | ||
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| cynics | @schedule shanghai | 06:42 |
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| ubotu | Schedule for Asia/Shanghai: 21 Aug 06:00: Forum Council meeting | 21 Aug 23:00: Kernel Team | 22 Aug 20:00: Edubuntu | 23 Aug 04:00: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Aug 23:00: Screencast Team | 06:42 |
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| blindrav1n | @scedule sydney | 08:30 |
| blindrav1n | @schedule sydney | 08:30 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 21 Aug 08:00: Forum Council meeting | 22 Aug 01:00: Kernel Team | 22 Aug 22:00: Edubuntu | 23 Aug 06:00: Xubuntu Developers | 24 Aug 01:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 28 Aug 01:00: Screencast Team | 08:30 |
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| PriceChild | @now | 11:49 |
| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: August 20 2007, 21:49:47 - Next meeting: Forum Council meeting in 10 minutes | 11:49 |
| jdong | @arewethereyet | 11:50 |
| PriceChild | @no | 11:50 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Forum Council meeting | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 21 Aug 15:00 UTC: Kernel Team | 22 Aug 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 22 Aug 20:00 UTC: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 27 Aug 15:00 UTC: Screencast Team | ||
| PriceChild | steady! | 11:51 |
| jdong | @now | 11:52 |
| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: August 20 2007, 21:52:40 - Current meeting: Forum Council meeting | 11:52 |
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| jdong | gonna go get coffee... brb | 11:53 |
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| Vorian | hello | 12:00 |
| Vorian | :) | 12:00 |
| MikeB | greets | 12:00 |
| bapoumba | hey | 12:00 |
| Vorian | short short agenda today :) | 12:00 |
| jdong | yes it is | 12:01 |
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| jdong | MikeB and I are going to be the only two FC members present | 12:01 |
| jdong | is darkog present for the Ubuntu Partners Lounge? | 12:01 |
| Vorian | ok | 12:01 |
| Vorian | I haven't been able to get a response from him since the last meeting | 12:02 |
| jdong | @now | 12:02 |
| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: August 20 2007, 22:02:11 - Current meeting: Forum Council meeting | 12:02 |
| Vorian | the agenda is as follows :) | 12:02 |
| Vorian | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda | 12:02 |
| jdong | ok | 12:02 |
| Vorian | I say we remove that item until he turns up again :) | 12:02 |
| jdong | alright, agreed | 12:02 |
| MikeB | agreed | 12:02 |
| jdong | if anyone has his e-mail information | 12:02 |
| Vorian | I do | 12:02 |
| jdong | might be a good idea to hit him up via email | 12:02 |
| jdong | ok well, that was easy (tm) | 12:03 |
| Vorian | I have sent him 3 emails | 12:03 |
| jdong | I agree that we should take it off the agenda until he is reachable again | 12:03 |
| Vorian | done | 12:03 |
| jdong | ok, next item | 12:04 |
| Vorian | Loco Team Administrator | 12:04 |
| jdong | Loco Team Administrator | 12:04 |
| HymnToLife | Vorian wins | 12:04 |
| popey | jdong wins here | 12:04 |
| jdong | :) | 12:04 |
| Vorian | quote | 12:05 |
| Vorian | The forum council has created a new position of LoCo Team Administrator. This person will handle all LoCo requests on the UbuntuForums. This is a 1 year term that can be renewed. To start this off the FC has elected Vorian since he was already heading up the LoCo section of the forums. | 12:05 |
| jdong | I'm all for it :) | 12:05 |
| Vorian | lol | 12:05 |
| MikeB | +1:) | 12:05 |
| HymnToLife | same here | 12:05 |
| bapoumba | +1 | 12:06 |
| Vorian | :) | 12:06 |
| Rinchen | I can't vote but +1. He's done a good job for Colorado | 12:06 |
| Vorian | thanks Rinchen :) | 12:06 |
| Rinchen | I'm just telling it like it is :-) | 12:06 |
| jdong | this topic has come up on the FC mailing list and all councilmembers voted in favor, to my memory | 12:06 |
| jdong | so I think we can call it done and move forward? | 12:07 |
| Vorian | k | 12:07 |
| MikeB | yup, +1 across the board | 12:07 |
| Vorian | last item | 12:07 |
| bapoumba | congrats Vorian :) | 12:07 |
| Vorian | :) | 12:07 |
| Vorian | thanks bapoumba :) | 12:07 |
| Vorian | Members Signatures | 12:07 |
| Vorian | in response to this thread | 12:08 |
| Vorian | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=520487 | 12:08 |
| bapoumba | images in signatures ? | 12:08 |
| Vorian | yes | 12:08 |
| jdong | ubuntu-geek had a comment to make about this: | 12:08 |
| jdong | > | 12:08 |
| jdong | > Regarding the member signatures and the use of images. The reason no | 12:08 |
| jdong | > images were never allowed is because we have enough to moderate and | 12:08 |
| jdong | > trying to clean up after children who decide to use unprofessional | 12:08 |
| jdong | > images will be a nightmare. Secondly, our server is taxed anyways | 12:08 |
| jdong | > serving up useless images is pointless and only causes slower load | 12:08 |
| jdong | > times. | 12:08 |
| jdong | > | 12:08 |
| jdong | > So my vote is -1 | 12:08 |
| jdong | > | 12:08 |
| jdong | > Ryan | 12:08 |
| bapoumba | -1 here too | 12:08 |
| jdong | my feelings are mixed on this | 12:09 |
| PriceChild | They will be abused. We have avatars to express ourselves... why would images in sigs be needed too? | 12:09 |
| jdong | at the forums I am a part of that allow sigs, it is WIDELY ABUSED | 12:09 |
| jdong | gigantic images, ugly long banners | 12:09 |
| MikeB | I agree with UG, more graphics will use up forum server resource (disk space and bandwidth) | 12:09 |
| MikeB | people would abuse it | 12:09 |
| jdong | I am -1 on users uploading images to display on the signature | 12:10 |
| Rinchen | again, I don't think I can vote (Just a sub-forum mod) but I also say -1 for the resource and moderation issues already listed. | 12:10 |
| jdong | and I am much more -1 on users linking to other external images | 12:10 |
| jdong | because that can be catastrophic on page load times if their external host is down or slow | 12:10 |
| popey | but cant users switch off visibility of sigs in their profile? | 12:10 |
| MikeB | plus it could cause security issues for our friends visiting the forums froma Windows box | 12:10 |
| popey | (just a question) | 12:10 |
| popey | I am sure my profile has it turned off IIRC | 12:10 |
| PriceChild | popey, yes? | 12:10 |
| jdong | popey: yes, but users might want to be able to see some text sigs, and not image based ones | 12:11 |
| popey | ahh, its "all or nothing | 12:11 |
| popey | "show signatures" | 12:11 |
| jdong | right | 12:11 |
| === popey never sees them, so cares not :) | ||
| bapoumba | popey, the regular text only sigs already get abused ! | 12:11 |
| popey | i can imagine | 12:11 |
| bapoumba | and we do moderate them | 12:11 |
| jdong | there is one use case I can see... | 12:11 |
| jdong | some users like linking to some "Ubuntu User" tiny gif, or a linux user counter | 12:12 |
| popey | what about that new bug image thing from ubuntustats | 12:12 |
| popey | that might be popular to link to | 12:12 |
| PriceChild | http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ | 12:12 |
| jdong | one proposal is to have a whitelist of allowed image URL's | 12:12 |
| jdong | for sigs | 12:12 |
| bapoumba | I have my numbers txt mode ;) | 12:13 |
| popey | couldnt this go under the avatar? | 12:13 |
| popey | i find sigs (of any kind) interrupt the flow | 12:13 |
| jdong | either an avatar or just a text | 12:13 |
| bapoumba | would those be hosted on the servers ? | 12:14 |
| jdong | is anyone here in favor of allowing image sigs? | 12:14 |
| jdong | and has an argument as to why? | 12:14 |
| MikeB | -1 here | 12:14 |
| bapoumba | still -1 | 12:14 |
| === jdong reading through that thread again... | ||
| MikeB | the only reason would be to allow people to be more individualistic on the forums, but it is not worth the cost of time and potential for abuse | 12:15 |
| jdong | the OP's idea is to "moderate" images, which I disagree with | 12:15 |
| jdong | it would be too much work on our part | 12:15 |
| jdong | and still doesn't resolve the technical problems with load time and server resources | 12:15 |
| jdong | so, let's just call this -1? | 12:16 |
| MikeB | sounds good | 12:16 |
| HymnToLife | -1 for me too | 12:16 |
| Vorian | agreed | 12:17 |
| jdong | wow, that was fast | 12:17 |
| Vorian | anything to address that's not on the agenda jdong or MikeB? | 12:18 |
| MikeB | nope, been fairly calm recently on the forums | 12:18 |
| jdong | One unclosed matter for me is the Launchpad integration stuff | 12:18 |
| jdong | what is the latest status update on that? | 12:19 |
| bapoumba | who knows ? | 12:19 |
| MikeB | Matt R. wants to meeting with the FC/admin with some launchpad people | 12:19 |
| jdong | yep, that's the last e-mail I've seen on it | 12:19 |
| jdong | so then it's hung on our side, pending a meeting date | 12:20 |
| bapoumba | how many registered users on LP as to now , | 12:20 |
| bapoumba | ? | 12:20 |
| Vorian | 3 | 12:20 |
| MikeB | I never heard back if anyone wanted to meet with them (LP guys) | 12:20 |
| bapoumba | Vorian, :D | 12:21 |
| Vorian | :) | 12:21 |
| jdong | I sent back an e-mail on this... I'm interested in meeting to ask a few more questions | 12:21 |
| bapoumba | usernames ? | 12:22 |
| MikeB | I will mail the rest of the FC see if we could arrange a time | 12:22 |
| jdong | ok | 12:22 |
| Vorian | excellent | 12:23 |
| Vorian | anything else? | 12:23 |
| jdong | not that I can think of | 12:23 |
| MikeB | Vorian: Till January, I can not meeting on Monday or Wednesday afternoon from 3:00PM till 5:00PM EST | 12:23 |
| jdong | as far as a next meeting date... I am doing calss scheduling the day after labo(u)r day | 12:24 |
| jdong | so by the end of the first week of sept I'll be more clear on my free timeslots | 12:24 |
| jdong | perhaps we should delay scheduling till then | 12:24 |
| Vorian | MikeB, ok | 12:24 |
| MikeB | jdong: sounds good | 12:24 |
| Vorian | jdong, ok | 12:24 |
| jdong | MikeB: shall we make formal decision on the PM topic here? | 12:25 |
| jdong | I just got to my PM inbox a second ago | 12:25 |
| MikeB | the Ubuntu user map? | 12:26 |
| jdong | no, the staff member | 12:27 |
| === Rinchen bows out. | ||
| === jdong still resents that PM's don't have reply-to-all buttons | ||
| MikeB | jdong: sure | 12:27 |
| jdong | for everyone out there, Artificial Intelligence has offered to rejoin the staff | 12:28 |
| Vorian | great | 12:28 |
| bapoumba | cool | 12:28 |
| jdong | prior, he left due to personal reasons (not enough time) | 12:28 |
| jdong | I am +1 for welcoming him back on the staff | 12:28 |
| MikeB | +1 here also | 12:28 |
| bapoumba | +1 | 12:28 |
| HymnToLife | +1 | 12:28 |
| Vorian | +1 \o/ | 12:28 |
| jdong | alright, then welcome back, AI :) | 12:29 |
| bapoumba | W00t | 12:29 |
| jdong | now that Mike's brought up the map thing.... | 12:29 |
| jdong | might as well get that done | 12:29 |
| jdong | nickburns | 12:29 |
| jdong | PM'ed us about a map that he created | 12:30 |
| jdong | the URL is : http://www.flippinsweetdude.com/maps/ | 12:30 |
| jdong | apparently you can pin your location on a Google Map | 12:30 |
| jdong | and he wants to make it a sticky to attract more attention | 12:30 |
| MikeB | phone brb | 12:30 |
| jdong | IMO the map is cool, but I don't think it's sticky material | 12:30 |
| HymnToLife | yep | 12:31 |
| HymnToLife | he can put something about it in his sig or hatever | 12:31 |
| jdong | historically we have only granted "advertising stickies" for official Ubuntu endeavors or official forum projects | 12:31 |
| jdong | he is welcome to make a thread or put it in his sig | 12:31 |
| jdong | but I'm -1 on sticky | 12:31 |
| HymnToLife | -1 too | 12:31 |
| MikeB | back | 12:32 |
| HymnToLife | otherwise we'll have tons of people requesting a sticky for their personal stuff | 12:32 |
| bapoumba | 350 000 users, that will be crowded :D | 12:32 |
| jdong | agreed | 12:32 |
| bapoumba | -1 on the sticky | 12:32 |
| jdong | advertising personal projects on the forum is already on the border... | 12:33 |
| jdong | sticky is a definite no | 12:33 |
| MikeB | -1 here | 12:33 |
| Vorian | agreed, Je suis la carte | 12:33 |
| jdong | ok | 12:34 |
| PriceChild | Isn't there already one on the wiki or something? | 12:34 |
| bapoumba | Yea, I think so PriceChild | 12:35 |
| jdong | Vorian: you're what? | 12:35 |
| Vorian | yes, link is also on the planet | 12:35 |
| PriceChild | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldWide | 12:35 |
| Vorian | ok | 12:37 |
| Vorian | anything else? | 12:37 |
| jdong | alright, I think we're done | 12:37 |
| jdong | I want food | 12:37 |
| Vorian | great | 12:37 |
| Vorian | thanks for coming everyone :) | 12:37 |
| jdong | Vorian: large pepperoni and mushroom pizza | 12:37 |
| jdong | Vorian: and a 2 liter of coke too | 12:37 |
| Vorian | jdong, on the way :) | 12:37 |
| MikeB | Thanks | 12:37 |
| jdong | thanks! | 12:37 |
| MikeB | see you guys later | 12:37 |
| bapoumba | See ya ! | 12:37 |
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| Vorian | ha | 12:38 |
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| jdong | alright, thanks for coming | 12:38 |
| jdong | and all that stuff | 12:38 |
| jdong | bye. | 12:38 |
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