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[11:52] @now [11:52] Current time in Etc/UTC: August 20 2007, 21:52:40 - Current meeting: Forum Council meeting === jdong sleeps for 8 minutes [11:53] gonna go get coffee... brb === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:00] hello [12:00] :) [12:00] greets [12:00] hey [12:00] short short agenda today :) [12:01] yes it is === Tabenx [n=tommy@c-69-248-93-153.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [12:01] MikeB and I are going to be the only two FC members present [12:01] is darkog present for the Ubuntu Partners Lounge? [12:01] ok [12:02] I haven't been able to get a response from him since the last meeting [12:02] @now [12:02] Current time in Etc/UTC: August 20 2007, 22:02:11 - Current meeting: Forum Council meeting [12:02] the agenda is as follows :) [12:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda [12:02] ok [12:02] I say we remove that item until he turns up again :) [12:02] alright, agreed [12:02] agreed [12:02] if anyone has his e-mail information [12:02] I do [12:02] might be a good idea to hit him up via email [12:03] ok well, that was easy (tm) [12:03] I have sent him 3 emails [12:03] I agree that we should take it off the agenda until he is reachable again [12:03] done [12:04] ok, next item [12:04] Loco Team Administrator [12:04] Loco Team Administrator [12:04] Vorian wins [12:04] jdong wins here [12:04] :) [12:05] quote [12:05] The forum council has created a new position of LoCo Team Administrator. This person will handle all LoCo requests on the UbuntuForums. This is a 1 year term that can be renewed. To start this off the FC has elected Vorian since he was already heading up the LoCo section of the forums. [12:05] I'm all for it :) [12:05] lol [12:05] +1:) [12:05] same here [12:06] +1 [12:06] :) [12:06] I can't vote but +1. He's done a good job for Colorado [12:06] thanks Rinchen :) [12:06] I'm just telling it like it is :-) [12:06] this topic has come up on the FC mailing list and all councilmembers voted in favor, to my memory [12:07] so I think we can call it done and move forward? [12:07] k [12:07] yup, +1 across the board [12:07] last item [12:07] congrats Vorian :) [12:07] :) [12:07] thanks bapoumba :) [12:07] Members Signatures [12:08] in response to this thread [12:08] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=520487 [12:08] images in signatures ? [12:08] yes [12:08] ubuntu-geek had a comment to make about this: [12:08] > [12:08] > Regarding the member signatures and the use of images. The reason no [12:08] > images were never allowed is because we have enough to moderate and [12:08] > trying to clean up after children who decide to use unprofessional [12:08] > images will be a nightmare. Secondly, our server is taxed anyways [12:08] > serving up useless images is pointless and only causes slower load [12:08] > times. [12:08] > [12:08] > So my vote is -1 [12:08] > [12:08] > Ryan [12:08] -1 here too [12:09] my feelings are mixed on this [12:09] They will be abused. We have avatars to express ourselves... why would images in sigs be needed too? [12:09] at the forums I am a part of that allow sigs, it is WIDELY ABUSED [12:09] gigantic images, ugly long banners [12:09] I agree with UG, more graphics will use up forum server resource (disk space and bandwidth) [12:09] people would abuse it [12:10] I am -1 on users uploading images to display on the signature [12:10] again, I don't think I can vote (Just a sub-forum mod) but I also say -1 for the resource and moderation issues already listed. [12:10] and I am much more -1 on users linking to other external images [12:10] because that can be catastrophic on page load times if their external host is down or slow [12:10] but cant users switch off visibility of sigs in their profile? [12:10] plus it could cause security issues for our friends visiting the forums froma Windows box [12:10] (just a question) [12:10] I am sure my profile has it turned off IIRC [12:10] popey, yes? [12:11] popey: yes, but users might want to be able to see some text sigs, and not image based ones [12:11] ahh, its "all or nothing [12:11] "show signatures" [12:11] right === popey never sees them, so cares not :) [12:11] popey, the regular text only sigs already get abused ! [12:11] i can imagine [12:11] and we do moderate them [12:11] there is one use case I can see... [12:12] some users like linking to some "Ubuntu User" tiny gif, or a linux user counter [12:12] what about that new bug image thing from ubuntustats [12:12] that might be popular to link to [12:12] http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/ [12:12] one proposal is to have a whitelist of allowed image URL's [12:12] for sigs [12:13] I have my numbers txt mode ;) [12:13] couldnt this go under the avatar? [12:13] i find sigs (of any kind) interrupt the flow [12:13] either an avatar or just a text [12:14] would those be hosted on the servers ? [12:14] is anyone here in favor of allowing image sigs? [12:14] and has an argument as to why? [12:14] -1 here [12:14] still -1 === jdong reading through that thread again... [12:15] the only reason would be to allow people to be more individualistic on the forums, but it is not worth the cost of time and potential for abuse [12:15] the OP's idea is to "moderate" images, which I disagree with [12:15] it would be too much work on our part [12:15] and still doesn't resolve the technical problems with load time and server resources [12:16] so, let's just call this -1? [12:16] sounds good [12:16] -1 for me too [12:17] agreed [12:17] wow, that was fast [12:18] anything to address that's not on the agenda jdong or MikeB? [12:18] nope, been fairly calm recently on the forums [12:18] One unclosed matter for me is the Launchpad integration stuff [12:19] what is the latest status update on that? [12:19] who knows ? [12:19] Matt R. wants to meeting with the FC/admin with some launchpad people [12:19] yep, that's the last e-mail I've seen on it [12:20] so then it's hung on our side, pending a meeting date [12:20] how many registered users on LP as to now , [12:20] ? [12:20] 3 [12:20] I never heard back if anyone wanted to meet with them (LP guys) [12:21] Vorian, :D [12:21] :) [12:21] I sent back an e-mail on this... I'm interested in meeting to ask a few more questions [12:22] usernames ? [12:22] I will mail the rest of the FC see if we could arrange a time [12:22] ok [12:23] excellent [12:23] anything else? [12:23] not that I can think of [12:23] Vorian: Till January, I can not meeting on Monday or Wednesday afternoon from 3:00PM till 5:00PM EST [12:24] as far as a next meeting date... I am doing calss scheduling the day after labo(u)r day [12:24] so by the end of the first week of sept I'll be more clear on my free timeslots [12:24] perhaps we should delay scheduling till then [12:24] MikeB, ok [12:24] jdong: sounds good [12:24] jdong, ok [12:25] MikeB: shall we make formal decision on the PM topic here? [12:25] I just got to my PM inbox a second ago [12:26] the Ubuntu user map? [12:27] no, the staff member === Rinchen bows out. === jdong still resents that PM's don't have reply-to-all buttons [12:27] jdong: sure [12:28] for everyone out there, Artificial Intelligence has offered to rejoin the staff [12:28] great [12:28] cool [12:28] prior, he left due to personal reasons (not enough time) [12:28] I am +1 for welcoming him back on the staff [12:28] +1 here also [12:28] +1 [12:28] +1 [12:28] +1 \o/ [12:29] alright, then welcome back, AI :) [12:29] W00t [12:29] now that Mike's brought up the map thing.... [12:29] might as well get that done [12:29] nickburns [12:30] PM'ed us about a map that he created [12:30] the URL is : http://www.flippinsweetdude.com/maps/ [12:30] apparently you can pin your location on a Google Map [12:30] and he wants to make it a sticky to attract more attention [12:30] phone brb [12:30] IMO the map is cool, but I don't think it's sticky material [12:31] yep [12:31] he can put something about it in his sig or hatever [12:31] historically we have only granted "advertising stickies" for official Ubuntu endeavors or official forum projects [12:31] he is welcome to make a thread or put it in his sig [12:31] but I'm -1 on sticky [12:31] -1 too [12:32] back [12:32] otherwise we'll have tons of people requesting a sticky for their personal stuff [12:32] 350 000 users, that will be crowded :D [12:32] agreed [12:32] -1 on the sticky [12:33] advertising personal projects on the forum is already on the border... [12:33] sticky is a definite no [12:33] -1 here [12:33] agreed, Je suis la carte [12:34] ok [12:34] Isn't there already one on the wiki or something? [12:35] Yea, I think so PriceChild [12:35] Vorian: you're what? [12:35] yes, link is also on the planet [12:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldWide [12:37] ok [12:37] anything else? [12:37] alright, I think we're done [12:37] I want food [12:37] great [12:37] thanks for coming everyone :) [12:37] Vorian: large pepperoni and mushroom pizza [12:37] Vorian: and a 2 liter of coke too [12:37] jdong, on the way :) [12:37] Thanks [12:37] thanks! [12:37] see you guys later [12:37] See ya ! === jdong prepares a few pennies for tip [12:38] ha === Tabenx [n=tommy@c-69-248-93-153.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Konversation] [12:38] alright, thanks for coming [12:38] and all that stuff [12:38] bye. === johnc4510_ [n=johnc@ubuntu/member/johnc4510] has joined #ubuntu-meeting