[08:34] <dho_ragus> anybody in here ever set up lithium-core in ubuntu?
[08:34] <dho_ragus> i tried it once and it b0rked, so i'm trying from scratch in a vm... just want reassurance that there's hope of getting this to work.
[09:57] <kraut> moin
[10:35] <AnRkey> How can I completely remove apache2 and php with all config files and reinstall from scratch with fresh configs?
[10:35] <AnRkey> I have tried deleting my /etc/apache2
[10:36] <AnRkey> and I have also tried dpkg -P apache2
[11:34] <kraut> AnRkey: apt-get remove --purge $packagename
[11:55] <juliux> morning
[12:01] <AnRkey> kraut will that remove everything?
[12:01] <AnRkey> damn i just realised that I can't get into the box from work
[12:01] <AnRkey> will have to try later today
[12:05] <kraut> AnRkey: man apt-get
[12:25] <AnRkey> kraut, thats not funny mate, would not be here if i had not tried that
[12:25] <kraut> AnRkey: you can't open the man-page and search the section, where --purge is described?!
[12:27] <AnRkey> i have purged using dpkg already
[12:27] <AnRkey> i think it's a package problem
[01:23] <kraut> anyone has got a good sudo+ldap howto?
[01:49] <rbrunhuber> can anybody help me with a locale problem on ubuntu-server?
[01:50] <rbrunhuber> There are no LC and LANG related variables and update complained about this. So how can I configure them correctly?
[02:16] <ScottK> rbrunhuber: You have to set the locale.  I don't recall the exact command (it's not hard, but I'm on my first cup of coffee still).  I expect it you Google locale LC LANG set you'll get it.
[02:36] <sommer> morning all
[02:37] <mathiaz> hi sommer 
[02:38] <infinity> ScottK: What was he asking how to do?  It's long since left my scrollback.
[02:39] <ScottK> Yes.
[02:39] <ScottK> [07:49]  <rbrunhuber> can anybody help me with a locale problem on ubuntu-server?
[02:39] <ScottK> [07:50]  <rbrunhuber> There are no LC and LANG related variables and update complained about this. So how can I configure them correctly?
[02:39] <infinity> Err.
[02:40] <infinity> A fresh install should reall have some reasonably happy locales going on already.
[02:40] <infinity> really*
[02:41] <ScottK> It should, I agree.  IIRC there's a bug about that somewhere.
[02:42] <infinity> I meant "should" as in "it does".
[02:42] <infinity> Unless the problem here is, as I suspect, that it doesn't have HIS locale configured out of the box.  When you ssh from A to B, ssh takes the locale with it.
[02:42] <ScottK> Right.  That would do it too.
[02:43] <infinity> adconrad@cthulhu:~$ LANG=jp_JP ssh lucifer
[02:43] <infinity> Linux lucifer 2.6.15.4 #1 Fri Feb 10 23:07:22 EST 2006 ppc
[02:43] <infinity> Last login: Mon Aug 20 22:42:47 2007 from cthulhu.0c3.net
[02:43] <infinity> (base)adconrad@lucifer:~$ locale 2>/dev/null
[02:43] <infinity> LANG=jp_JP
[02:43] <infinity> LC_CTYPE="jp_JP"
[02:43] <infinity> ...
[02:43] <infinity> We can't "fix" that, that's not a bug.
[02:43] <infinity> And installing all locales by default on a fresh install ain't gonna happen. :)
[02:44] <ScottK> Agreed.
[02:44] <ScottK> BTW, have you gotten to the "Failed to upload" e-mail I sent you last week yet?
[02:44] <infinity> ...
[02:44] <infinity> When last week?
[02:45] <ScottK> Yes.
[02:45] <infinity> I haven't checked my mail yet today (or all weekend), and I was sick on Friday.
[02:45] <ScottK> Sent on Friday.
[02:45] <ScottK> OK.
[02:45] <infinity> That was "when last week", not "when, last week?" :)
[02:45] <ScottK> Right.
[02:46] <ScottK> Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:19:52 -0400 to be specific.
[02:46] <infinity> Let me go argue with mutt right now about how 3 days away from email really shouldn't mean 1300 new messages, so it's clearly mistaken.
[02:47] <ScottK> OK.  It's not any kind of a crisis, so whenever you can get to it.  
[02:47] <infinity> The argument needed to happen anyway.
[02:47] <infinity> We have it every morning, really.
[02:47] <ScottK> The package has a pending revision, so if something needs to be done in the package, it'd be good to get it into it rather than have another problem.
[02:48] <ScottK> Who usually wins?
[02:48] <infinity> It always wins, by pointing out that I have a highly-publicised email address and, hey, procmail already filtered several thousand more to other folders, and spamassassin deleted a few million, so what am I complaining about really?
[02:48] <ScottK> Ah, that kind of argument.  I understand.
[02:49] <ScottK> I'm coming up on 10 years with the same e-mail address, so stuff does pile up.
[02:50] <infinity> I've had this domain since 1995 or something, but the real killer is the publicity of Debian/Apache/Freedesktop/Ubuntu/ARGH.
[02:50] <infinity> My email address just exists in too many very well-indexed places.
[02:52] <infinity> Well, and the secondary problem where, once I run my visual spam filter over the day's mail, I still realise that I have several hundred real messages that weren't easily procmailable (ie: not lists, bugs, etc, but real, honest-to-god, personal communication)
[02:52] <infinity> Coworkers, community, Debian developers, blah blah blah.
[02:52] <infinity> Not enough hours in the day anymore.
[02:57] <clovisw> hi, i installed the Ubuntu Server 7.04 for AMD64 on a IBM System x3105, and on boot get the message "ck804xrom_init_one(): Unable to register resource 0x00000000ffb00000-0x00000000ffffffff - kernel bug?" how to find the reason or solution for this message?
[03:00] <infinity> ScottK2: Okay, I was expecting that to be a binary reject due to something you broke in the package.. But it looks like you've tickled a soyuz bug.  Lucky you.
[03:00] <ScottK2> Yeah.
[03:01] <infinity> clovisw: Does it affect the system at all, or does the message just scare you
[03:01] <infinity> ?
[03:01] <ScottK2> infinity: So what to do?  Upload the revision and hope?
[03:02] <infinity> ScottK2: A new source upload should be fine.  I still want to figure this out.
[03:02] <ScottK2> OK.  We still have a few questions for the packager (who isn't a MOTU) so it'll be a bit.  Good luck.
[03:03] <sommer> anyone work for a College?  If so I'm wondering if you let retired professors keep their email accounts?
[03:03] <clovisw> infinity: its my first install of Ubuntu to test, and i dont like to see this message on boot, i'm installing the server to run as a MaxDB server for developement
[03:03] <clovisw> infinity: install of MaxDB are ok
[03:04] <clovisw> infinity: but that message let me think if the installation are ok, or not, then i'm scare about that
[03:05] <nealmcb> clovisw: is this relevant?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404751
[03:06] <infinity> >ck804xrom ck804xrom_init_one(): Unable to register resource 0x00000000ffc00000-0x00000000ffffffff - kernel bug?
[03:06] <infinity> This doesn't break anything. It's just a warning, we could remove it
[03:06] <infinity> completely. Did you see real breakage?
[03:06] <infinity> ^-- from the upstream maintainer of that bit of code.
[03:07] <infinity> nealmcb: That forum post isn't helpful at all. :)
[03:08] <nealmcb> i.e. are you seeing any networking speed issues?
[03:08] <infinity> clovisw: The maintainer of that driver at Intel claims that the above isn't a bug at all, and it would be changed to a warning.
[03:08] <infinity> clovisw: In other words -- Just ignore it.
[03:09] <clovisw> infinity: intel? but that machine have an AMD processor, what intel have with that?
[03:10] <infinity> clovisw: One of the driver developers is at Intel.
[03:10] <infinity> clovisw: We don't have much in the way of loyalties about this sort of thing.
[03:11] <infinity> (Oddly enough, a lot of my software ships with RedHat!)
[03:12] <clovisw> infinity: you know what is the resource that the ck804xrom want to init?
[03:12] <infinity> Nope, not my driver.  If I had to guess, though, I'd say it wants some extra PCI-E address space, and it's not getting any.
[03:12] <infinity> Which is hardly the end of the world.
[03:19] <clovisw> infinity: doing a lspci shows that nVidia Corporation CK804 in many devices, but its a IBM System, that dont have ny nVidea component, maybe the ubuntu get the wrong drivers?
[03:20] <infinity> clovisw: No, it uses an nvidia motherboard chipset.
[04:23] <nealmcb> if apache2ctl causes problems like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/131632  should we disable it or add warnings?  Or change it so it calls the init scripts so things are configured properly?
[04:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131632 in apache2 "apache2.2-common: mod_cgid fills error.log with [error]  lines" [Undecided,Invalid]  
[04:27] <mathiaz> nealmcb: apache2ctl is a script from upstream.
[04:27] <mathiaz> nealmcb: IIRC.
[04:28] <mathiaz> nealmcb: so I wouldn't change its default behavior.
[04:28] <clovisw> hi, anyone have the start script for maxdb on ubuntu?
[04:29] <infinity> We've changed apache2ctl in Debian unstable to create the /var/run stuff itself, and moved the logic out of the init script.
[04:30] <infinity> Still, a user calling apache2ctl themselves is asking for whatever pain they get.
[04:30] <infinity> We don't get bug reports about people trying to call mysqld_safe by themselves.
[04:30] <infinity> (We would if anyone tried, there's no way it would work)
[04:30] <nealmcb> mathiaz: I know it is a tricky issue, but I'm concerned that we would ship a command in /usr/sbin that fills up the logs with error messages when used as people are used to using it.  
[04:31] <infinity> nealmcb: Yes, we should ship it there, that's where it belongs.
[04:31] <nealmcb> infinity: cool - sounds like a good fix
[04:31] <mathiaz> then it's in ubuntu too.
[04:31] <infinity> nealmcb: /usr/sbin/apache2 exists too, do people call that directly? :)
[04:31] <infinity> (Well, I do, all the time, as "apache2 -X" for debugging, but most people really shouldn't)
[04:33] <nealmcb> infinity: I haven't studied this one in depth, but the person reporting this used a method in upstream that is supported by them, so I'm glad it will be supported in ubuntu also - "principle of least surprise"
[04:33] <infinity> The upstream docs also refer to compiling from source...
[04:33] <infinity> I'm not entirely sure that means "you should ignore your distro's init scripts, if you didn't install from source".
[04:34] <nealmcb> infinity: I'm not suggesting that they should....
[04:34] <infinity> Still, I'm a heavy apachectl user too, hence why it's been fixed.
[04:34] <nealmcb> :-)
[04:34] <nealmcb> Should I dig out the debian bug # and update the ubuntu bug?  Or has someone already started doing that?
[04:35] <infinity> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=418499
[04:35] <ubotu> Debian bug 418499 in apache2.2-common "apache2ctl does not work if NO_START=1 is set" [Important,Fixed]  
[04:36] <infinity> Err, not really the right bug report, but that's the one we closed! ;)
[04:36] <infinity>   * Create run and lock directores in apache2ctl to make it work on fresh
[04:36] <infinity>     installations before the first call of the init script. Together with
[04:36] <infinity>     the previous item, this closes: #418499
[05:13] <nealmcb> infinity:  Thanks.  I attached the bug.  So looks like it is in gutsy already.
[05:15] <nealmcb> Before I say something like "fix released" (which I already did...) in a case like this, should I do my own testing rather than relying on hearsay?  I should have asked the bug reporter to test it also....
[05:15] <mathiaz> nealmcb: Are you talking about bug 131632 ?
[05:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131632 in apache2 "apache2.2-common: mod_cgid fills error.log with [error]  lines" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131632
[05:16] <nealmcb> yup
[05:16] <nealmcb> I should have agreed with you in my comment also....
[05:16] <mathiaz> hum... I marked it as Invalid this morning I think
[05:16] <nealmcb> right - but it has been fixed, according to infinity
[05:17] <mathiaz> yeah... I see your point.
[05:17] <nealmcb> I just don't have time to test on gutsy
[05:19] <mathiaz> usually I rely on the changelogs...
[05:19] <nealmcb> good
[05:19] <mathiaz> but if you have time to do test you can..
[05:20] <mathiaz> but this seems like an obvious case
[05:20] <nealmcb> hopefully the reporter will test it
[05:20] <infinity> I'm inclined to agree that it's both "invalid" and "fix released", shame you can't do that in launchpad. :)
[05:20] <nealmcb> and as you've pointed out, it isn't the biggest priority out there :-)
[05:20] <infinity> In other words, it wasn't a bug, it was user error, but we fixed it anyway.
[05:21] <nealmcb> I think it is a valid bug though - it isn't nice to take working upstream use cases and make them quietly eat up disk space
[05:23] <nealmcb> but we do want to get people using proper init procedures, since other "bugs" will crop up, so I see your point
[05:24] <infinity> To be honest, I'm not even sure how one manages to trigger this.
[05:24] <infinity> You'd have to KNOW that the init script exists, so you blatantly disable it, and then use apache2ctl.
[05:24] <infinity> Which is, very much, user error.
[05:24] <nealmcb> like that person yesterday who complained that ubuntu wasn't starting up apache at all, because he wasn't even using our packages....
[05:24] <infinity> This isn't about "following upstream docs, and having them screw up"
[05:25] <infinity> Because the init script runs on postinst, and it runs on boot, so apache2ctl would work fine for a user who didn't disable the init script.
[05:25] <infinity> At the point where you intentionally circumvent a working package, I refuse to call it a bug.
[05:27] <nealmcb> good point - wonder what the original reported did...
[05:28] <nealmcb> s/reported/reporter
[05:38] <ScottK> infinity: I don't know if it's relevant to the Soyuz upload problem or not, but FYI, the subsequent upload of zekr was uploaded to the archive (NEW specifically) with no problem.
[06:18] <bdmurray> mathiaz: do you remember that installer bug I mentioned last week?
[06:18] <bdmurray> re lamp, lvm and var?
[06:20] <bdmurray> eh, I found it
[06:36] <ConfidentiaL> I wanna set up server for downloading, and I figured I would write a simple web interface in php for adding torrents and checking their status. Is this hard to set up, and which torrent client would you recommend?
[06:36] <nealmcb> ConfidentiaL: you might want to ask on a torrent channel
[06:38] <mralphabet> ConfidentiaL: you could use torrentflux, it's even in the repos I believe
[06:38] <mralphabet> ConfidentiaL: apt-cache search torrent
[06:39] <ConfidentiaL> ok thanks. But, the web interface part? I haven't really programmed php to control a program before. Do you have any links to guides or something?
[06:41] <ConfidentiaL> oh, I see now when I search on torrentflux:P
[06:42] <nealmcb> ConfidentiaL: yeah - you can read the source and see how hard it is :P
[06:42] <mralphabet> ConfidentiaL: keep in mind this has nothing to do with ubuntu server ;)
[06:58] <tck> anyone know how to save a function to memory for next bootup ?
[08:13] <rbrunhuber> After updating today my cronjobs start complaining about misconfigured locales.
[08:15] <rbrunhuber> The detailled error can be found here: http://pastebin.com/m62082763
[08:16] <noah> Is cryptsetup available in gutsy -current server CD?
[08:17] <noah> ..during the install i mean. I downloaded alternate-amd64.iso but it wasn't available there, and neither were the required crypto modules (aes, sha256)
[08:28] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:29] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: ^^ use sudo
[08:38] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet, that does not work.
[08:40] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: output: http://pastebin.com/m68d376b1
[08:43] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: sudo apt-install locales
[08:45] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: it is already installed. I'm wondering why there is no /var/lib/locales/supported.d/en file
[08:46] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: odd
[08:47] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: one thing is why is perl complaining about this? my scripts are purely bash
[08:47] <rbrunhuber> this is a server so i don't want to install language-pack-en. 
[08:56] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: still there?
[09:01] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: yes, but I don't have any other suggestions, I was looking in launchpad but didn't fid anything
[09:03] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: i just copied the content of /var/lib/locales/supported.d/en from another machine. it now works.
[09:03] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: but i do not know if i have to worry about other things. because my auth.log is truncated and everything feels a bit strange. i hope i have not been hacked.
[09:04] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: are you sure it was installed?
[09:04] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: what was installed?
[09:06] <mralphabet> 13:41 < mralphabet> rbrunhuber: sudo apt-install locales
[09:06] <mralphabet> 13:43 < rbrunhuber> mralphabet: it is already installed.
[09:06] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: yes i'm sure it was installed
[09:07] <mralphabet> rbrunhuber: very odd, anyway, glad you got it working.
[09:08] <rbrunhuber> mralphabet: auth.log is ok too it got rotated, phew...
[09:31] <sommer> mathiaz: question about the Ubuntu wikis.  Is wiki.ubuntu.com a different wiki than help.ubuntu.com/community?
[09:32] <sommer> just wondering because the DovecotLDAP wiki link I tried adding to the ServerRoadmap page wouldn't work.
[09:34] <sommer> as an internal link anyway.
[09:47] <mathiaz> sommer: they're different
[09:48] <sommer> mathiaz: gotcha
[09:49] <mathiaz> sommer: in the case of the Dovecot wiki, it used to be a page on wiki.ubuntu.com that has been migrated to help.ubuntu.com
[09:49] <mathiaz> sommer: and there's a refresh setup in the page on wiki.ubuntu.com.
[09:49] <sommer> okay...so is it okay to post external links in the ServerRoadmap Page?
[09:49] <mathiaz> sommer: once in a while the doc team goes through wiki.ubuntu.com and migrate some pages to help.ubuntu.com/community/.
[09:50] <mathiaz> sommer: definetly.
[09:50] <sommer> mathiaz: thanks just wanted to make sure I'm not making a mess of things.
[09:51] <mathiaz> sommer: don't worry about messing things up... It's all wiki pages, so there's always the history.
[09:52] <sommer> cool, I'll start looking for another server doc page to update.
[09:52] <sommer> have any suggestions?
[09:53] <mathiaz> I think there is a category on help.ubuntu.com
[09:53] <mathiaz> sommer: CategoryCleanup
[09:54] <sommer> ah...I've seen it.  I'll start there
[09:54] <mathiaz> sommer: you may wanna have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryCleanup
[09:54] <mathiaz> sommer: and see if there are any server related pages.
[09:54] <sommer> all over it.
[09:54] <mathiaz> sommer: you've asked for some feedback on your updated pages.
[09:55] <mathiaz> sommer: may it's an item that could be added to the documentor section.
[09:55] <mathiaz> sommer: review wiki pages.
[09:56] <sommer> mathiaz: so do you think the links I added should be moved into another section called Review?
[09:57] <mathiaz> sommer: well - it could be seen as another simple task.
[09:57] <mathiaz> sommer: but it may clutter the wiki page
[09:58] <sommer> Is there a formal place to ask for review?  for wiki pages?
[09:58] <mathiaz> sommer: I don't think so.
[09:58] <mathiaz> sommer: the doc team is too small to have a review process...
[09:59] <sommer> gotcha
[09:59] <mathiaz> sommer: the RoadMap is there so that people that wanna get involved in the ServerTeam can have concrete task they can choose...
[10:00] <sommer> ah...so is there really a need to list the pages that need updating?
[10:00] <sommer> or should we just link to the CategoryCleanup page?
[10:01] <sommer> is there a CategoryServer type page?
[10:01] <sommer> if there was it'd be pretty simple to create a task to review those docs for each release.
[10:01] <mathiaz> sommer: I don't think so.
[10:02] <mathiaz> sommer: well the original idea was to track which wiki pages need some love.
[10:03] <mathiaz> sommer: and list them somewhere so that other people can work on them
[10:03] <mathiaz> sommer: it seems that another task would be to review them.
[10:03] <sommer> ya, but I'm thinking that the list may be quite large.
[10:04] <sommer> but then it may not either.
[10:04] <mathiaz> sommer: for now, you've just asked for review...
[10:05] <sommer> I updated the Dovecot page and wrote up the DovecotLDAP page.
[10:05] <sommer> the DovecotLDAP page is new so I thought it may be a good idea for some one to double check me.
[10:05] <mathiaz> sommer: yop. Thanks for that.
[10:05] <mathiaz> sommer: yes. It would actually be part of an ongoing effort to update the documentation.
[10:06] <mathiaz> May be a new task could be added - review community documentation
[10:06] <mathiaz> with a link to the CategoryCleanup page
[10:07] <mathiaz> and a list of specific pages for which feedback has been asked (like you DovecotLDAP page)
[10:08] <sommer> sounds good.  I'll list what pages I'm working on in the ServerRoadmap page.
[10:08] <mathiaz> sommer: excellent. Thanks for your help.
[10:08] <sommer> np
[10:09] <mathiaz> sommer: may be you could also update the KnowledgeBase with some basic facts about the wikis.
[10:09] <mathiaz> sommer: like, there a two wikis, etc...
[10:09] <sommer> ah...sure I can do that.
[10:13] <sommer> mathiaz: when you say KnowledgeBase which one do you mean?
[10:13] <mathiaz> sommer: wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase
[10:13] <sommer> mathiaz: thanks
[10:13] <mathiaz> sommer: this is the place where we store content that explains how to get involved in the team.
[10:13] <mathiaz> sommer: which processes we follow, etc...
[10:14] <sommer> heh...I was looking right at the link, but didn't see it.
[10:18] <stiv2k> hi
[10:19] <stiv2k> i am having some extremely annoying issues with CUPS
[10:19] <stiv2k> for some reason
[10:19] <stiv2k> my printer is disappearing by itself
[10:19] <stiv2k> every few hours
[10:19] <stiv2k> and i have to constantly re-add it
[10:19] <stiv2k> and i can't even seem to find any log info explaining it
[10:19] <stiv2k> I really need to get it working properly
[10:23] <sommer> stiv2k: are you running feisty?
[10:23] <stiv2k> sommer: yes
[10:23] <sommer> I had a similar issue (I forget the bug number), but there was an update to libdus that solved it.
[10:23] <stiv2k> libdus?
[10:24] <sommer> stiv2k: have you tried updating?
[10:24] <stiv2k> sommer: yes my system is up to date
[10:24] <stiv2k> its still doing it though
[10:24] <sommer> what version of dbus do you have?
[10:24] <stiv2k> sommer: how can i check?
[10:25] <sommer> dpkg -l libdubs
[10:25] <sommer> sorry try: dpkg -l libdbus-1-3
[10:25] <stiv2k> ii  libdbus-1-3    1.0.2-1ubuntu4 simple interprocess messaging system
[10:26] <sommer> must be a different issue than what I had.
[10:26] <stiv2k> eh
[10:26] <sommer> stiv2k: there's nothing in the log file if you set cups to debug?
[10:26] <stiv2k> sommer: well i'm not sure
[10:27] <stiv2k> i tried looking but theres so much stuff in there i'm not sure what i'm looking for
[10:29] <sommer> you might start lookging at about the time the printer disapeared.
[10:29] <stiv2k> well i dont know when it disappeared
[10:29] <stiv2k> i added it last night
[10:29] <stiv2k> and it was tehre for a few hours
[10:29] <stiv2k> i came back from school today
[10:29] <stiv2k> and its goen
[10:31] <sommer> have you readded it yet?
[10:31] <stiv2k> sommer: not yet
[10:31] <stiv2k> hey
[10:31] <stiv2k> could this be it?
[10:31] <stiv2k> D [20/Aug/2007:06:30:36 -0400]  Discarding unused printer-deleted event...
[10:31] <stiv2k> D [20/Aug/2007:06:30:36 -0400]  Remote destination "Lexmark_Printer" has timed out; deleting it...
[10:31] <sommer> possible
[10:32] <razer-server2> ok... i nead som help to config my smtp server... im using postfix. cane somone help me?
[10:32] <stiv2k> why would it be doing that
[10:32] <sommer> stiv2k: the printer is probably going to a "sleep" mode.
[10:32] <stiv2k> interesting
[10:32] <stiv2k> it NEVER used to do that to me before
[10:33] <stiv2k> just recently when i reformatted the server's hard drive
[10:33] <mathiaz> razer-server2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[10:33] <stiv2k> sommer: perhaps a setting to make it not do that?
[10:33] <razer-server2> tx
[10:33] <mathiaz> razer-server2: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/postfix.html
[10:33] <mathiaz> !postfix
[10:33] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:34] <sommer> stiv2k: Probably...I'm not sure what'd be though.  You might try google.  Also the printers manual may tell you if there's anything hardware wise you can do.
[10:34] <stiv2k> right
[10:34] <stiv2k> dammit
[10:34] <stiv2k> i was hoping it was a known issue or sometihng
[10:34] <stiv2k> i kinda need this working... and fast.
[10:35] <stiv2k> i keep hitting dead ends
[10:35] <sommer> stiv2k: can you try a different printer?
[10:35] <stiv2k> this is a different printer
[10:35] <sommer> ah
[10:35] <stiv2k> it was doing teh same exact thing with my HP psc 1310
[10:35] <stiv2k> ;)
[10:35] <stiv2k> so im pretty sure its a server-side thing
[10:36] <sommer> how is it connected?
[10:36] <stiv2k> not printer-side
[10:36] <stiv2k> USB
[10:36] <sommer> can you connect it any other way?
[10:36] <stiv2k> nope
[10:37] <sommer> stiv2k: I've pretty much exhausted my ideas then.  Unless someone knows if there's some kind of power setting that's affecting the USB ports?
[10:38] <stiv2k> i dont know....
[10:38] <stiv2k> it all happened as soon as i reformatted the drive
[10:38] <stiv2k> and reinstalled ubuntu
[10:38] <stiv2k> so, im pretty sure it HAS to be some software setting
[10:38] <stiv2k> perhaps HAL
[10:38] <stiv2k> or udev or some crap
[10:38] <stiv2k> or even some arbitrary CUPS setting
[11:03] <razer-server2> i dont get it... why dosent the email send... this is in my mail.log
[11:03] <razer-server2> Aug 20 21:54:55 razer-web postfix/smtp[6972] : F3480BC58A: to=<aslund_@hotmail.com>, relay=mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.245.40] :25, delay=1.2, delays=0.06/0/0.55/0.57, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 mail from IP 89.253.84.59 soft failed sender ID check Please ensure this IP is authorized to send mail on behalf of [hotmail.com] )
[11:19] <Nicke> razer-server2: From what address are you sending? (the From: field)
[11:37] <stiv2k> one more thing
[11:37] <stiv2k> how can i make cups advertise its printers using its LAN ip
[11:37] <stiv2k> rather than the external hostname (which isnt reachable on port 631 from the outside anyway)
[12:02] <stiv2k> ............?