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=== Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released, see http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | gutsy (7.10) Tribe-4 released ! test the development iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-4/ === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Thu Aug 9 16:05:26 2007 === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Kingskid [n=vaclav@213.195.205.201] has joined #edubuntu === Kingskid [n=vaclav@213.195.205.201] has left #edubuntu [] === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-6814a953bfa524da] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-6814a953bfa524da] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === _quip [n=allen@user-11jl5eo.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu === _quip [n=allen@user-11jl5eo.cable.mindspring.com] has left #edubuntu ["doh"] === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@pool-71-173-92-224.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@A-57-104.cust.iol.ie] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as wantok === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp71-105.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.98.179] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:56] Morning all [03:58] hello sbalneav!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1cos(0)!11 [03:58] Hey highvoltage! === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === tck_ [n=tck@78.16.28.142] has joined #edubuntu === boyam [n=boyam12@208.104.11.156] has joined #edubuntu === JohanSalim [n=guest@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === tck_ is now known as tck === Kalle [n=Kalle@157.230.95.91.static.ter-blg.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #Edubuntu === tck_ [n=tck@78.16.28.142] has joined #edubuntu === tck_ is now known as tck === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === highvolt1ge [n=highvolt@dsl-241-174-87.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === tck_ [n=tck@213-202-177-23.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@77-101-188-243.cable.ubr08.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === tck_ is now known as tck [05:34] hi there, does anyone know if bug 38410 listed on launchpad has been transferred over to sabayon yet? I banged my head against the wall on this issue until I found the workaround listed in the bug as of 8/17/2007. [05:34] Launchpad bug 38410 in sabayon "sabayon blocks ssh based ltsp logins if not user profiles are created" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38410 [05:36] yea yea allo knowing ubotu...i know you knew about it....smartalic..lol [05:39] Not sure if it's been transferred over or not. [05:40] That was one of my little inspiriations. [05:40] I'll check with ogra and see if we can get it in. [05:41] What's really needed is for Sabayon to return different levels of error code, so that we can detect the difference between a missing profile, and a serious error. [05:47] sbalneav, i agree...and i do realize Sabayon is still under development...those guys have done a heck of a job....works well...when it works.... [05:47] thanks sbalneav === jsgotangco [n=JSG@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] boyam: If there were more hours in the day, and maybe once we get all the bling in that we want in ltsp5, I might take up developing on Sabayon, since it's a fairly closely related technology to ltsp, but for now, I just don't have the time. [05:51] sbalneav, understandable...i like to sleep as well....lol === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:25] sbalneav, do you have any clue where to get a list with the oss drivers that are still needed for some clients ? ubuntu disabled all oss stuff and i want it re enabled but the kernel team needs a list ... i have kahlua on it so far ... [06:26] the sis7019 source is sadly not licensed at all ... else i'd get it in :/ [06:26] Geez, I really don't know. Sound was never really my thing. Wonder if jammcq's around, he may know, see if he knows. [06:26] Hold on, I'll phone him [06:26] not around [06:26] its not that urgent :) [06:27] i just want it solved before release :) [06:27] Hey, strike while the iron is hot. [06:27] ogra, ping [06:27] effie_jayx, pong [06:28] ogra, Hi, Iam from venezuela. and there is a slight chance that classmate pc's come very soon. how is edubuntu working with the Classmate PC's [06:28] Left him a message on the telly-phone. === JanetFLorida [n=chatzill@177.148.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:45] can anyone tell me how to increase swap for LTSP clients? [06:48] JanetFLorida, create the file /etc/ltsp/nbdswapd.conf on the server [06:48] JanetFLorida, put SIZE=64 in there for 64MB swap per client ... [06:52] do i need to reboot to take effect? I started another client, /tmp/file* don't show any new swap files, all old 32mb's [06:54] did you properly shut down from ldm ? it shoul have deleted the old file then during shutdown [06:54] i'm not sure it creates a new one if an old one exists [06:57] ogra, could you tell me if it is too dificult to install it. I belong to el LoCo Team in venezuela and we are trying to look at edubuntu as a platform for education there [06:57] ? [06:58] effie_jayx, followig the udb devicde installation instructions from the wiki should work [06:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [06:59] ogra, about hardware... it is intel [07:00] so can we expect the drivers to just work? [07:00] no [07:00] I see [07:00] the wireless driver wont work (not intel) and suspend/resume wont [07:00] the wireless is not intel? [07:00] rt73 from ralink [07:01] its cheaper i guess :P [07:01] ogra, is it hard to get it to work? [07:01] use windows drivers? or the like? [07:01] you can compile the module from sourceforge but wont have network-manager support ... [07:02] anyway, i have to go now ... [07:02] ogra, thanks for the insight === JohanSalim [i=G3b0ys@ip84-223.cbn.net.id] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu [07:25] OK, so I'm trying to set up my laptop as an LTSP server for my CMPC [07:25] however, it appears it can't find the dhcp server [07:26] I'm just running it via a patch cable so I would've thought it would "just work" [07:28] ogra: you around buddy? :-) === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === JanetFLorida [n=chatzill@177.148.121.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:43] sbalneav: pingy pingy === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool158.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:15] LaserJock: Pong. Back from lunch === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [08:18] sbalneav: I'm trying to set up my laptop as an LTSP server [08:19] Cool [08:19] sbalneav: just using a patch cable to go from the laptop eth0 to the "thin client" [08:19] Does your laptop have gigabit network card? [08:19] I installed ltsp and ran the ltsp-build-client or whatever itis [08:19] but the TC doesn't see the dhcp server on the laptop === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [08:20] Whoa, what was that [08:20] Anyway, LaserJock, here's the question: [08:21] Are yoy using a REGULAR patch cable, or a crossover cable? [08:21] just a chunk of cat5 [08:21] If you have a gige card in your laptop, you can use a regular. [08:21] if it's only a 100 meg lan card, you'll need a crossover. [08:22] ? [08:22] either that, or a small switch to put in between the two [08:22] I'm pretty sure my laptop doesn't have a gige card [08:22] the gig ethernet cards have, built into them, the circuitry to reverse the send/recieve lines, so you can use a straight thru cable. [08:22] 100 meg doesn't [08:23] ok, then you need a crossover cable. [08:23] If you were here, I could make you one in 5 minutes. :) [08:23] any old store like Best Buy should have a crossover cable? [08:23] Yeah. [08:23] They should have it. [08:25] my wireless router would work but it's already got a dhcp server running on it [08:25] right. [08:25] Having a xover cable's a good thing to have in your arsenal anyway. Well worth the investment. [08:25] Buy a long one. === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-166-102.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:35] sbalneav: you gonna be around this evening? [08:36] I will be! [08:36] k, I'm gonna swing by Best Buy on the way to work and then this evening I'll give it a go [08:37] this ClassmatePC is a lot of fun, but I need to get Windows off === jbrefort [i=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhzamora@emea-netcache1.oracle.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@213-202-177-23.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #edubuntu === tck [n=tck@213-202-177-23.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96861.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === valles_ [n=valles@200.71.131.18] has joined #edubuntu [10:22] ogra: Still around? I've got the security problem licked, I think. I'll test tonight. [10:22] the ltspfs-nodm tree's where I'm doing my work. Once everything's going ok, I'll port all the changes there over to the mainline ltspfs tree. === valles_ is now known as effie_jayx === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [10:28] sbalneav: I found a 14 ft. crossover at CompUSA for $15 [10:28] sbalneav: Best Buy wanted $22 for a 7 ft. "Geek Squad" crossover cable [10:30] There you go! Excellent [10:31] so tonight we'll see if that works [10:31] what I did was set up eth0 as 192.168.0.1 [10:31] and used that in the dhcpd.conf [10:31] so I'm guessing that *should* work [10:33] Should, yeah [10:35] ogra: anything I can do for Tribe 5? [10:43] Headin' home, be on later === tck [n=tck@213-202-177-23.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:55] effie_jayx: yes, I did [10:55] LaserJock, I talked to ogr a a little while ago. thanks for the heads up. there is a chance that my government might get some [10:56] 40 f them are comming in october and we wanted to see or talk to someone who has used ubuntu on them [10:57] cool [10:57] INTEL is planning to bring them with a closed source linux distro... [10:57] yeah, metasys or something like that [10:57] actually there is one called Rxart [10:57] argentinian [10:58] the whole Free software comunity is in uproar [10:58] here in venezuela. and we are proposing Ubuntu or any other linux distro that is FREE as in freedom [10:59] even though it is intel the one who decides [11:00] hmm, interesting [11:03] LaserJock, the closed source Linux distributor in argentina claims that getting his linux to work was a pain and that he had to do some "Low level programing to get it to work" [11:03] effie_jayx: well, eventually there will be an *buntu for the classmatepc [11:03] effie_jayx: ogra got it pretty much working in a couple days [11:03] LaserJock, in the time being there is a way for installing it [11:04] LaserJock, and good thing is there is a nationa compani that already installs Ubuntu and Guadalinux [11:04] right now I've got Window XP on mine, that's what they shipped it with [11:04] but it's kinda buggy === modster78 [n=andy@78.144.81.206] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] heloo [11:08] modster78: hi [11:08] any one point me to a guide for runin local apps on ltsp? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [11:10] modster78: I'm not sure that we have one, you might ask #ltsp though [11:10] ok thx im jst stuck on how to get this sort of thing going === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu