[03:56] <sbalneav> Evening all
[08:03] <LaserJock> hmm, any ltspers awake over here?
[03:56] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:58] <highvoltage> hello sbalneav!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1cos(0)!11
[03:58] <sbalneav> Hey highvoltage!
[05:34] <boyam> hi there, does anyone know if bug 38410 listed on launchpad has been transferred over to sabayon yet?  I banged my head against the wall on this issue until I found the workaround listed in the bug as of 8/17/2007.
[05:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 38410 in sabayon "sabayon blocks ssh based ltsp logins if not user profiles are created" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/38410
[05:36] <boyam> yea yea allo knowing ubotu...i know you knew about it....smartalic..lol
[05:39] <sbalneav> Not sure if it's been transferred over or not.
[05:40] <sbalneav> That was one of my little inspiriations.
[05:40] <sbalneav> I'll check with ogra and see if we can get it in.
[05:41] <sbalneav> What's really needed is for Sabayon to return different levels of error code, so that we can detect the difference between a missing profile, and a serious error.
[05:47] <boyam> sbalneav, i agree...and i do realize Sabayon is still under development...those guys have done a heck of a job....works well...when it works....
[05:47] <boyam> thanks sbalneav
[05:50] <sbalneav> boyam: If there were more hours in the day, and maybe once we get all the bling in that we want in ltsp5, I might take up developing on Sabayon, since it's a fairly closely related technology to ltsp, but for now, I just don't have the time.
[05:51] <boyam> sbalneav, understandable...i like to sleep as well....lol
[06:25] <ogra> sbalneav, do you have any clue where to get a list with the oss drivers that are still needed for some clients ? ubuntu disabled all oss stuff and i want it re enabled but the kernel team needs a list ... i have kahlua on it so far ...
[06:26] <ogra> the sis7019 source is sadly not licensed at all ... else i'd get it in :/
[06:26] <sbalneav> Geez, I really don't know.  Sound was never really my thing.  Wonder if jammcq's around, he may know, see if he knows.
[06:26] <sbalneav> Hold on, I'll phone him
[06:26] <ogra> not around
[06:26] <ogra> its not that urgent :)
[06:27] <ogra> i just want it solved before release :)
[06:27] <sbalneav> Hey, strike while the iron is hot.
[06:27] <effie_jayx> ogra,  ping
[06:27] <ogra> effie_jayx, pong
[06:28] <effie_jayx> ogra,  Hi, Iam from venezuela. and there is a slight chance that classmate pc's come very soon. how is edubuntu working with the Classmate PC's
[06:28] <sbalneav> Left him a message on the telly-phone.
[06:45] <JanetFLorida> can anyone tell me how to increase swap for LTSP clients?
[06:48] <ogra> JanetFLorida, create the file /etc/ltsp/nbdswapd.conf on the server
[06:48] <ogra> JanetFLorida, put SIZE=64 in there for 64MB swap per client ...
[06:52] <JanetFLorida> do i need to reboot to take effect? I started another client, /tmp/file* don't show any new swap files, all old 32mb's
[06:54] <ogra> did you properly shut down from ldm ? it shoul have deleted the old file then during shutdown
[06:54] <ogra> i'm not sure it creates a new one if an old one exists
[06:57] <effie_jayx> ogra,  could you tell me if it is too dificult to install it. I belong to el LoCo Team in venezuela and we are trying to look at edubuntu as a platform for education there
[06:57] <effie_jayx> ?
[06:58] <ogra> effie_jayx, followig the udb devicde installation instructions from the wiki should work
[06:59] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[06:59] <effie_jayx> ogra, about hardware... it is intel
[07:00] <effie_jayx> so can we expect the drivers to just work?
[07:00] <ogra> no
[07:00] <effie_jayx> I see
[07:00] <ogra> the wireless driver wont work (not intel) and suspend/resume wont
[07:00] <effie_jayx> the wireless is not intel?
[07:00] <ogra> rt73 from ralink
[07:01] <ogra> its cheaper i guess :P
[07:01] <effie_jayx> ogra, is it hard to get it to work?
[07:01] <effie_jayx> use windows drivers? or the like?
[07:01] <ogra> you can compile the module from sourceforge but wont have network-manager support ...
[07:02] <ogra> anyway, i have to go now ...
[07:02] <effie_jayx> ogra,  thanks for the insight
[07:25] <LaserJock> OK, so I'm trying to set up my laptop as an LTSP server for my CMPC
[07:25] <LaserJock> however, it appears it can't find the dhcp server
[07:26] <LaserJock> I'm just running it via a patch cable so I would've thought it would "just work"
[07:28] <LaserJock> ogra: you around buddy? :-)
[07:43] <LaserJock> sbalneav: pingy pingy
[08:15] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Pong.  Back from lunch
[08:18] <LaserJock> sbalneav: I'm trying to set up my laptop as an LTSP server
[08:19] <sbalneav> Cool
[08:19] <LaserJock> sbalneav: just using a patch cable to go from the laptop eth0 to the "thin client"
[08:19] <sbalneav> Does your laptop have gigabit network card?
[08:19] <LaserJock> I installed ltsp and ran the ltsp-build-client or whatever itis
[08:19] <LaserJock> but the TC doesn't see the dhcp server on the laptop
[08:20] <sbalneav> Whoa, what was that
[08:20] <sbalneav> Anyway, LaserJock, here's the question:
[08:21] <sbalneav> Are yoy using a REGULAR patch cable, or a crossover cable?
[08:21] <LaserJock> just a chunk of cat5
[08:21] <sbalneav> If you have a gige card in your laptop, you can use a regular.
[08:21] <sbalneav> if it's only a 100 meg lan card, you'll need a crossover.
[08:22] <LaserJock> ?
[08:22] <sbalneav> either that, or a small switch to put in between the two
[08:22] <LaserJock> I'm pretty sure my laptop doesn't have a gige card
[08:22] <sbalneav> the gig ethernet cards have, built into them, the circuitry to reverse the send/recieve lines, so you can use a straight thru cable.
[08:22] <sbalneav> 100 meg doesn't
[08:23] <sbalneav> ok, then you need a crossover cable.
[08:23] <sbalneav> If you were here, I could make you one in 5 minutes. :)
[08:23] <LaserJock> any old store like Best Buy should have a crossover cable?
[08:23] <sbalneav> Yeah.
[08:23] <sbalneav> They should have it.
[08:25] <LaserJock> my wireless router would work but it's already got a dhcp server running on it
[08:25] <sbalneav> right.
[08:25] <sbalneav> Having a xover cable's a good thing to have in your arsenal anyway.  Well worth the investment.
[08:25] <sbalneav> Buy a long one.
[08:35] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you gonna be around this evening?
[08:36] <sbalneav> I will be!
[08:36] <LaserJock> k, I'm gonna swing by Best Buy on the way to work and then this evening I'll give it a go
[08:37] <LaserJock> this ClassmatePC is a lot of fun, but I need to get Windows off
[10:22] <sbalneav> ogra: Still around?  I've got the security problem licked, I think.  I'll test tonight.
[10:22] <sbalneav> the ltspfs-nodm tree's where I'm doing my work.  Once everything's going ok, I'll port all the changes there over to the mainline ltspfs tree.
[10:28] <LaserJock> sbalneav: I found a 14 ft. crossover at CompUSA for $15
[10:28] <LaserJock> sbalneav: Best Buy wanted $22 for a 7 ft. "Geek Squad" crossover cable
[10:30] <sbalneav> There you go!  Excellent
[10:31] <LaserJock> so tonight we'll see if that works
[10:31] <LaserJock> what I did was set up eth0 as 192.168.0.1
[10:31] <LaserJock> and used that in the dhcpd.conf
[10:31] <LaserJock> so I'm guessing that *should* work
[10:33] <sbalneav> Should, yeah
[10:35] <LaserJock> ogra: anything I can do for Tribe 5?
[10:43] <sbalneav> Headin' home, be on later
[10:55] <LaserJock> effie_jayx: yes, I did
[10:55] <effie_jayx> LaserJock,  I talked to ogr a a little while ago. thanks for the heads up. there is a chance that my government might get some
[10:56] <effie_jayx> 40 f them are comming in october and we wanted to see or talk to someone who has used ubuntu on them
[10:57] <LaserJock> cool
[10:57] <effie_jayx> INTEL is planning to bring them with a closed source linux distro...
[10:57] <LaserJock> yeah, metasys or something like that
[10:57] <effie_jayx> actually there is one called Rxart
[10:57] <effie_jayx> argentinian
[10:58] <effie_jayx> the whole Free software comunity is in uproar
[10:58] <effie_jayx> here in venezuela. and we are proposing Ubuntu or any other linux distro that is FREE as in freedom
[10:59] <effie_jayx> even though it is intel the one who decides
[11:00] <LaserJock> hmm, interesting
[11:03] <effie_jayx> LaserJock,  the closed source Linux distributor in argentina claims that getting his linux to work was a pain  and that he had to do some "Low level programing to get it to work"
[11:03] <LaserJock> effie_jayx: well, eventually there will be an *buntu for the classmatepc
[11:03] <LaserJock> effie_jayx: ogra got it pretty much working in a couple days
[11:03] <effie_jayx> LaserJock,  in the time being there is a way for installing it
[11:04] <effie_jayx> LaserJock,  and good thing is there is a nationa compani that already installs Ubuntu and Guadalinux
[11:04] <LaserJock> right now I've got Window XP on mine, that's what they shipped it with
[11:04] <LaserJock> but it's kinda buggy
[11:07] <modster78> heloo
[11:08] <LaserJock> modster78: hi
[11:08] <modster78> any one point me to a guide for runin local apps on ltsp?
[11:10] <LaserJock> modster78: I'm not sure that we have one, you might ask #ltsp though
[11:10] <modster78> ok thx im jst stuck on how to get this sort of thing going