[01:14] <asac> still missed your point?
[01:15] <Ubulette> why should it be different for ff ? embedded or not
[01:15] <Ubulette> that's just what I complain about
[01:15] <asac> because in buld-tree/mozilla there is no debian/ directory ;)
[01:16] <asac> Ubulette: so for instance ... i cd to build-tree/mozilla/gfx/.../.../ somewhere
[01:16] <asac> then i just say quilt add file.cpp
[01:16] <asac> edit file.cpp
[01:16] <Ubulette> there's already something creating the link patches to ../../debian/patches
[01:16] <asac> refresh
[01:17] <asac> imo all other packages should change the way they do it ... e.g. vreate a link as well ;)
[01:17] <asac> in that way people without .quiltrc can work out-of the box
[01:17] <Ubulette> well, maybe
[01:17] <asac> but if you really have issues with that we might also create a debian/patches ;)
[01:18] <asac> in the end the way we currently do it is the default way that cdbs/quilt does it for embedded tarballs
[01:18] <asac> i don't know how cdbs/quilt behaves for not embedded tarballs
[01:18] <asac> but i guess it creates a link on top level as well
[01:19] <Ubulette> that came up when converting nss/nspr to quilt. I had to choose, link or no link using debian/patches
[01:19] <asac> so probably all people that use debhelper have just debian/patches ... while all cdbs projects have patches7
[01:19] <asac> imo thats a deficiency of quilt helper files for debhelper
[01:20] <asac> Ubulette: so if you have a .quiltrc you cannot edit in our mozilla tree?
[01:20] <asac> maybe it still works ?
[01:20] <Ubulette> no, I have to create the link manually
[01:21] <Ubulette> or edit my quiltrc
[01:21] <Ubulette> that what've kept doing last week
[01:21] <asac> the point why i dislike it is that we need to create a directory for that link as well
[01:21] <Ubulette> not if you link debian instead of patches
[01:22] <asac> ah ok :)
[01:22] <asac> let me think about it ... if so we can fix cdbs
[01:22] <asac> maybe provide a option CDBS_USE_DEEP_QUILT_PATCHES=1 ;)
[01:23] <Ubulette> if you want
[01:23] <asac> well ... i am pretty sure that its not sane to just switch behaviour and break others that currently use quilt cdbs tarball ... so we definitly need an opt-in option
[01:24] <Ubulette> sur
[01:25] <Ubulette> e
[01:25] <asac> and shipping our own cdbs .mk files is not really a solution on the long run either
[01:25] <asac> i currently do that in firefox ... but that doesn't mean that i am proud of it :)
[01:25] <asac> i should have submitted the patch we carry there a long time ago
[01:26] <Ubulette> oh, i've opened a bug for the nsinstall fix yesterday
[01:27] <Ubulette> was part of the patch cleanup i've done
[01:29] <asac> bug id?
[01:30] <Ubulette> bz392722_fix_nsinstall_on_double_slash.patch
[01:31] <Ubulette> i guess no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch should end up there too
[01:31] <Ubulette> as it's a ftbs and not a customization
[01:33] <asac> mozilla bug 392722
[01:33] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 392722 in Build Config "nsintall and double slashes" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392722
[01:34] <asac> ok let me confirm it and bring it on track
[01:38] <Ubulette> thx
[01:43] <asac> Ubulette: done
[01:43] <asac>  mozilla bug 392722
[01:43] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 392722 in Build Config "nsintall and double slashes" [Normal,New]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392722
[01:43] <asac> requested review freom :bs
[01:44] <asac> probably takes a week or two until he comes around ;)
[01:45] <asac> if you don't see any comment in 2 weeks, try to remember to bug someone :)
[01:45] <Ubulette> np, i'm daily building trunk with the patch :)
[01:45] <asac> s/remember/remember me/
[01:45] <Ubulette> sure
[01:45] <Ubulette> plenty of new stuff in trunk those days :)
[01:46] <asac> yeah ... they push hard for beta1
[01:46] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: how was the meeting? I totally forgot about it...
[01:46] <Admiral_Chicago> grr
[01:46] <asac> it didn't take place i guess
[01:47] <asac> no problem :)
[01:47] <asac> i wasn't here as well ;) ... we looked at @schedule
[01:47] <asac> :)
[01:48] <asac> we have daily meetings in this channel :)
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i believe that
[01:49] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: ... and gnomefreak is in hospital
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i moved my old .default profile to a backup, did a reinstall and now the old .default isn't working
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: what? for what?
[01:49] <asac> Ubulette: do you remember the english word?
[01:49] <Ubulette> pancreati-somthing
[01:50] <asac> yeah i think its gallstones
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> pancreaitis?
[01:50] <Ubulette> Aug 16 16:43:46 <gnomefreak>    pancreantitus(sp)
[01:50] <Ubulette> Aug 16 16:44:19 <gnomefreak>    nope my pancrese(sp) is swollen
[01:50] <asac> yes
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see, that sucks soo bad
[01:50] <asac> yeah ... pretty painful i guess
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> best of luck to him, i'll send him an email
[01:50] <asac> yeah please do
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> freddy@sepa:~$ firefox -p
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin.pure
[01:51] <asac> but in the end (given that all this works out well) ... he might be better of ... taking more care of what he drinks ... eat
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> know anything about that?
[01:51] <asac> its -P
[01:51] <asac> iirc
[01:52] <asac> for me it always spit out the error you get
[01:52] <asac> oh ... no it works here
[01:52] <asac> wierd
[01:53] <Admiral_Chicago> brilliant
[01:53] <asac> wait
[01:53] <asac> its feisty that works ... and feisty has some hand-written start script
[01:53] <asac> its really -P
[01:53] <asac> i have to kick debian guys for introducing the false believe that -p opens the profile manager
[01:54] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: yes ...  use -P
[01:54] <asac> (upper-case)
[01:54] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks, i got it working
[01:54] <asac> np
[02:08] <Ubulette> asac, something we have to think about for gp (probably a8) and trunk, the plugin dir.. it's empty by default (except nullplugin).
[02:09] <asac> what's your idea
[02:09] <asac> ?
[02:10] <asac> Ubulette: ^^
[02:10] <Ubulette> either doing like for the profile, once if only null is found
[02:10] <Ubulette> or i don't know, patching the plugins seems too much for so few
[02:11] <Ubulette> hmm, a user said in the forum that GP "Started being the main cause of wakeups in powertop? (futex_wait (hrtimer_wakeup))"
[02:12] <Ubulette> 'im not running unix on my laptop (shame on me) so i can't confirm
[02:12] <asac> you really run windows?
[02:12] <asac> how does it feel?
[02:13] <Ubulette> no choice, corporate policy
[02:13] <asac> last i remember was me trashing my mouse against the wall :)
[02:13] <Ubulette> i feel frustrated
[02:13] <asac> i am sorry for you
[02:13] <Ubulette> fortunately i have 3 unix boxes in my office
[02:14] <asac> ok :) then you have at least a bit luck
[02:14] <Ubulette> the laptop is mostly for meetings and speeches
[02:14] <asac> ok for that win might be ok ;)
[02:15] <Ubulette> :)
[02:16] <Ubulette> well, if you have the occasion to test that
[02:16] <asac> i don't undestand that statement
[02:16] <asac> "Started being the main cause of wakeups in powertop? (futex_wait (hrtimer_wakeup))" ?
[02:17] <Ubulette> run gp, start powertop, dont touch anything for a while and see the winner
[02:18] <asac> ignorant and moronish as it may sounds ... i have no powertop here and don't know what it is
[02:18] <Ubulette> powertop is useful to see what sucking the battery
[02:18] <asac> in which package is it?
[02:18] <asac> laptop-super-utils?
[02:19] <Ubulette> apt-cache show powertop
[02:19] <Ubulette> Package: powertop
[02:19] <Ubulette> Priority: extra
[02:19] <Ubulette> Section: universe/utils
[02:19] <asac> ok its new in gutsy
[02:19] <Ubulette> yep, intel sort of opensourced that a few months ago
[02:20] <asac> ah ... ok i have to test it tomorrow on my gutsy system then
[02:21] <asac> i still run feisty on my production machine
[02:21] <asac> and it doesn
[02:21] <asac> t work in chroot
[02:21] <Ubulette> oh ok
[02:21] <asac> i just hate to have any kind of disruption while trying to be productive ;)
[02:22] <Ubulette> i've been running debian unstable for almost 10 years
[02:22] <asac> actually i would still use debian etch :) if i would not be involved in ubuntu that far
[02:22] <asac> well i think its not a problem
[02:23] <asac> but i already see murphys law coming
[02:23] <Ubulette> i've switched to ubuntu too, still with the +1 (last 3)
[02:24] <Ubulette> i'm even ahead of gusty :)
[02:24] <asac> uh?
[02:24] <asac> well i am just ahead of the world with bzr
[02:24] <Ubulette> i'm running gutsyfied HEAD
[02:24] <asac> i run 0.91 :)
[02:24] <asac> straight from bzr  ;)
[02:25] <asac> yes right ... i know that you build your own HEAD things ;)
[02:25] <asac> personally i am not a hot-new-bleeding-edge fetichist
[02:25] <asac> i only upgrade once i realize that i need something to do something ;)
[02:26] <Ubulette> i jsut have my periods
[02:26] <asac> :)
[02:29] <Ubulette> there was supposed to be an ubuntu like that a while ago
[02:30] <Ubulette> got dropped at some point
[02:30] <Ubulette> too bad
[02:30] <asac> a direct from head ubuntu?
[02:30] <asac>  ... for gnome this is mostly true
[02:31] <asac> its really pita for me ... as there are many crashes related to unstable cairo/gtk et al
[02:32] <asac> but with apport crash submission + auto-dupe detect it might work out pretty well
[02:32] <asac> once those libs have stabilized you can just look if you still receive dupes ... if not its gone
[02:32] <asac> but that also means that you might just sit back and wait before you start to investigate
[02:32] <asac> :)
[02:33] <asac> ok ... i am almost in bed ... tomorrow will be a really bad day ... i should upgrade locales ... then review security issues on olf firefox branches and take care that we get fixes that are not landed upstream backported et al :/
[02:34] <asac> if i have time i might start to implement the cool hildon component for midbrowser (the mobile firefox we currently develop)
[02:35] <asac> but probably this has to wait till wed
[02:35] <asac> :(
[02:35] <asac> so no fun tomorrow
[02:35] <Ubulette> :)
[02:35] <Ubulette> bed time for me too.
[02:35] <Ubulette> 1 last question
[02:35] <asac> yeah
[02:35] <asac> ;)
[02:36] <Ubulette> what's the freshest thing you have for xulrunner/libxul ?
[02:36] <asac> the freshest thing i have?
[02:36] <Ubulette> bzr
[02:36] <asac> let me check out ... wait a sec
[02:37] <Ubulette> svn, whatever
[02:37] <Ubulette> so i don't reinvent the wheel for nothing
[02:37] <asac> yeah ... unfortunately mike didn't push his xulrunner to http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-mozilla ... so we just have what is in debian unstable atm
[02:37] <asac> thats the latest/greatest that exist
[02:38] <asac> Ubulette: however ... we have to do it on our own i guess
[02:38] <asac> Ubulette: because mofo/moco doesn't like what debian did
[02:38] <asac> http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2006-02-22/debian-versioning-of-mozilla-libraries-harmful/
[02:39] <asac> and if we want to build firefox on top of xulrunner we have to obey their rules
[02:39] <asac> otherwise mconnor will kill me :/
[02:39] <asac> (same might be true for nspr/nss ... however i hope that this might slip thorugh unseen)
[02:40] <Ubulette> ok, thx, i'll read that tomorrow
[02:40] <asac> its all ridiculous and childish ... like:
[02:40] <asac> The ugly. Some distribution people, notably Debian developers, outright hate us or insult us. This is part of a wider theme of upstream/downstream tension. Debian is by far the worst here and deserves to be singled out - their packagers routinely anger high profile developers, and the practice of subtly breaking software continues unabated. When autopackage 1.0 was released and we got a lot of media attention, one Debian developer implied tha
[02:41] <Ubulette> :)
[02:41] <asac> i try to get this resolved .. but its not that easy :/
[02:41] <asac> ok good-night
[02:41] <Ubulette> i still don't get why ubuntu is allowed to ship ff
[02:42] <asac> because of me?
[02:42] <asac> ;)
[02:42] <asac> i did untangle the patches ... reviewed everything with mconnor and got approval
[02:42] <asac> before that we had a moratorium because ubuntu promissed to do what i did ;)
[02:42] <Ubulette> oh
[02:43] <asac> but in general ... you are right
[02:43] <Ubulette> so your all git stuff is going to make things even worse, if that"s possible
[02:43] <asac> no ... in git things stay on top ... clearly separated
[02:44] <asac> erics attitude to just maintain things in svn probably led to this whole dilemma
[02:44] <asac> and indeed while i untangled the patches i found merge failures
[02:44] <asac> where he forgot to drop something even though it was applied upstream et al
[02:44] <Ubulette> gasp
[02:44] <asac> no wonder because patches overlap et al.
[02:45] <Ubulette> i see.
[02:45] <asac> however given the size of the diff and the long-time this evolved the merge bugs where pretty small
[02:45] <asac> just 2 or 3 bugs of these kind
[02:45] <asac> however ... they existed and finding them was probably worth to put this energy in it
[02:46] <Ubulette> well, upstream is notbug proof either.. bug ids on 6 digits
[02:47] <asac> and till today eric could never explain to me what procedures he uses to keep the big picture ;)
[02:47] <asac> yeah right :)
[02:47] <asac> we can talk later more about this ;) ... today is done
[02:47] <asac> cu
[03:26] <Jazzva|away> Fun... found a bug in gnome-voice-control... well, I just can't start it... damn.
[09:46] <JenFraggle> Feel bad guys, just remembered yesterday's meeting. Sorry
[10:08] <asac> JenFraggle: no problem ;)
[10:08] <asac> bug 34758
[10:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 34758 in malone "librarian will set type to text/html though it should be text/plain" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/34758
[10:08] <JenFraggle> ty
[12:00] <asac> hey gnomefreak
[12:04] <gnomefreak> llo
[12:04] <gnomefreak> hello even
[12:05] <gnomefreak> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[12:07] <asac> oh
[12:07] <asac> probably new trigger support of dpkg?
[12:07] <asac> did you self-sign-out again or are you done with hospitality?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> it looks like it. it waited for dbootstrap to get set up by looks of it
[12:08] <gnomefreak> im home done with hospital, but i have doctors appt. to go over this with my doctor
[12:09] <gnomefreak> hmm
[12:09] <gnomefreak> that cant be good
[12:11] <gnomefreak> someone sent me a song (they dont know how to or what encryption is) and it says file is encrypted and cant be played, im wondering if its because its wma
[12:12] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[12:12] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:13] <asac> yeah most likely drm
[12:15] <gnomefreak> that would explain why the person she sent this to couldnt open it with win media player due to license error
[12:21] <gnomefreak> did you guys have the meeting?
[12:21] <asac> no ;)
[12:22] <asac> i wasn't here ... nobody was here afaik
[12:31] <gnomefreak> asac: are you building iceape1.1.4 for debian by chance?
[12:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124365 in iceape "Iceape-Browser: Theme setting reverts on restart" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124365
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: for debian? i uploaded 1.1.4 right?
[12:41] <asac> or did i forget that again?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> not sure yet
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: its there: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iceape
[12:42] <gnomefreak> ok for debian?
[12:47] <asac> i don't understand what you mean? debian has 1.1.4 ... mike maintains it mostly
[12:51] <asac> let me read this bug ... mayb ethne i understand
[12:55] <asac> gnomefreak: can you reproduce?
[12:55] <asac> i mean .. its about iceape shipping two themes by default
[12:55] <asac> the reporter cannot switch persistently
[12:56] <gnomefreak> i can not reproduce it but debian has a bug on it from 1.0.* and would have liked to have given the reporter the debian binaries for 1.1.4 to see if debian still has this issue in latest
[12:57] <asac> they don't have it
[12:57] <asac> i am pretty sure
[12:57] <asac> you can just start iceape in a sid chroot
[12:59] <asac> wfm
[12:59] <asac> no problem in sid
[12:59] <asac> no problem in gutsy ---> done!
[01:00] <gnomefreak> he says its a problem still in gutys
[01:00] <gnomefreak> gutsy
[01:03] <asac> dropped a comment
[01:03] <asac> bug 124365#
[01:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124365 in iceape "Iceape-Browser: Theme setting reverts on restart" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124365
[01:05] <asac> there is no real way except deleting manually iirc
[01:06] <gnomefreak> there is an extension that works
[01:06] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:06] <asac> yeah ... but most likely it just gives people false hopes and fails in some cases :)
[01:07] <asac> but maybe better than nothing
[01:07] <gnomefreak> i cant get into the sandbox atm to grab it
[01:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:12] <asac> sandbox?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Update:Users/Sandbox
[01:15] <gnomefreak> they are things that havent been released to public
[01:15] <gnomefreak> things == themes extensions or whatever but i still dont see the one it tells you to get
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ok heading to doctor i will play with this extension manager when i get home it dont work until i grab the API for it and when it asks to install it it fails but i think i will just see if i can get source and figure it out. bbl
[04:53] <hjmf> hi
[04:53] <hjmf> is there any issue with the granparadiso dbgsym package
[04:53] <hjmf> ?
[04:54] <hjmf> it seems to be wrong since 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu3
[04:54] <hjmf> ls -lh /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-granparadiso-dbgsym_*_i386.ddeb
[04:54] <hjmf> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  47M Jun 22 16:41 /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-granparadiso-dbgsym_3.0~alpha5-0ubuntu2_i386.ddeb
[04:54] <hjmf> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.0K Aug 10 17:39 /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-granparadiso-dbgsym_3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu3_i386.ddeb
[04:54] <hjmf> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.0K Aug 13 23:24 /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-granparadiso-dbgsym_3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu5_i386.ddeb
[04:54] <hjmf> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8.0K Aug 18 20:25 /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox-granparadiso-dbgsym_3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu6_i386.ddeb
[04:54] <hjmf> ?
[04:56] <hjmf> asac: ^^
[04:59] <asac> yes its a bit strange
[04:59] <asac> iirc the dbgsym are all in the -dev package
[05:00] <asac> hjmf: maybe try to install the firefox-granapardiso-dev-dbgsym package
[05:00] <hjmf> hmm, thanks
[05:00] <hjmf> gonna try
[05:00] <asac> yes let me know ... if it doesn't work, i have to take a closer look (or Ubulette_) :)
[05:01] <hjmf> k
[05:01] <hjmf> looking
[05:06] <hjmf> asac: after installed that package I'm still getting the "No symbol table info available." from gdb
[05:07] <hjmf> maybe if I link the files by hand...
[05:08] <hjmf> eg: ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/firefox-granparadiso-devel-3.0a7/sdk/lib/libxul.so --->  ./usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/firefox-granparadiso/libxul.so
[05:08] <hjmf> ...
[05:08] <asac> that really su**s
[05:08] <hjmf> :/
[05:09] <asac> hmm i think you should omit paradiso crashes until we have a solution
[05:09] <asac> soryy
[05:11] <hjmf> ... ok asac
[07:36] <Bernardo> hi
[07:36] <shirish> hi all, anybody up?
[07:36] <shirish> hi Bernardo
[07:37] <Ubulette> hi
[07:37] <shirish> Ubulette: cool you are up
[07:38] <shirish> Ubulette: can you look at https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=17584 its an extension issue, but can you confirm that?
[07:38] <ubotu> bugzilla.mozdev.org bug 17584 in Core "Firefox 3.0a7 segfaults when doing CTR:++ with Adblock Plus enabled" [Normal,New] 
[07:39] <shirish> oh wow, ubotu now can look up third-party bugzilla sites.
[07:41] <Ubulette> shirish, sure, i'll have a look in a few. i'm on something else right now
[07:42] <shirish> Ubulette: no worries, take the whole day, just as far as its gets some attention that's good enough, also dunno if this should have been reported here or not, your thoughts?
[07:42] <shirish> Ubulette: here as in launchpad
[07:43] <Ubulette> ok, i'll let you know (btw, it's nearly 8pm here :))
[07:44] <Ubulette> btw, did you test it with trunk ?
[07:44] <shirish> Ubulette: what do you mean by trunk, if you mean firefox 3.0a7 then yes
[07:45] <shirish> Ubulette: its 23:15 here, but then one doesn't know where the other person in the timezone is ;)
[07:45] <Ubulette> trunk is called Minefield, it's 3.0a8-pre+date
[07:46] <shirish> Ubulette: If its called Minefield then why mine is called as Gran-paradiso,and I'm only on what ubuntu 7.10 has provided
[07:46] <Ubulette> I maintain a mini repo for i386, if you're interested
[07:46] <shirish> Ubulette: when, where I'm definitely interested.
[07:47] <Ubulette> because yours is released, trunk/minefield is not, and will never be
[07:47] <Ubulette> the never ending devel version :)
[07:47] <Ubulette> deb http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/minirepos firefox-minefield/
[07:47] <Ubulette> for your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:47] <shirish> Ubulette: and if I understand you right, then you sync everyday to mozilla & make a ubuntu gutsy build everyday, is that right
[07:48] <Ubulette> right
[07:48] <Ubulette> you can run that in parallel with gp and ff2
[07:48] <shirish> Ubulette: ok cool ;)
[07:48] <shirish> Ubulette: cooler, but will be tricky I guess
[07:48] <Ubulette> those 3 now have their own profile
[07:49] <Ubulette> not at the moment, it just rocks
[07:49] <Ubulette> jsut remember it's for testing only, ie confirming it's not fixed upstream
[07:49] <Ubulette> or it is
[07:50] <shirish> Ubulette: understand ;)
[07:50] <Ubulette> visit the url 1st, you'll have a topo in there, including how to add my GPG key
[07:52] <shirish> Ubulette: I am doing this other way around lol, but no issues, now your gpg key are added
[07:53] <shirish> Ubulette: didn't know you had stuff also for totem & gstreamer also, the only issue if something doesn't work then where to report them? upstream or where?
[07:54] <Ubulette> to me, never to lp
[07:55] <Ubulette> either on irc or in the forum
[07:55] <shirish> Ubulette: on ubuntuforums or which forum?
[07:56] <Ubulette> gutsy, but if it's really my fault, you'd better email or pm me
[07:56] <Ubulette> btw, 'im using all that stuff, and much more so I'm impacted too :)
[08:00] <shirish> Ubulette: cool, although wouldn't know if its you or fault or the people upstream, but would for sure tell you. Another thing asac also has his own minirepo or when you think things are cool/better you package it?
[08:04] <shirish> Ubulette: finally have it would be installing now ;) Package: firefox-trunk
[08:04] <shirish> New: yes
[08:04] <shirish> State: not installed
[08:04] <shirish> Version: 3.0a8pre+cvs20070820t1040+bbot-1
[08:10] <Ubulette> shirish, did it work ?
[08:10] <shirish> Ubulette: yup its downloading stuff (trunk stuff) atm, I'm on 256 Kbps :(
[08:11] <Ubulette> oh
[08:11] <Ubulette> I'm at 7Mbps
[08:11] <Ubulette> could even be higher, but i don't need more
[08:13] <shirish> Ubulette: lol , here even enterprises/big companies can't afford 7 Mbps
[08:13] <shirish> Ubulette: there seems to be an issue, as only it downloaded 10 MB for firefox-trunk it doesn't have all that inspector & the other stuff?
[08:14] <Ubulette> you have to select them at the least the 1st time.
[08:14] <shirish> Ubulette: ah yes, saw them now, when I put them in aptitude search
[08:15] <Ubulette> the main deb is independent, but you can add the other ones if you want
[08:15] <Ubulette> remember it's updated daily.. at 256k, better be sure you want everything ;)
[08:16] <Ubulette> in ~40min, you'll probably see the new one for today...
[08:17] <shirish> Ubulette: thanx, this is what I missing, I want to see the new microformats stuff as & when its the servers
[08:17] <Ubulette> oh, this is nice: http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/demos/photos.svg
[08:18] <Ubulette> http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/demos/photos.svg
[08:18] <Ubulette> oops
[08:18] <Ubulette> http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2007/08/svg-video-demo.html
[08:20] <Ubulette> oh, just found a bug. select the url, paste in xchat (or anywhere else), it's not the right thing (the url) that is pasted, but the previous content of the buffer
[08:20] <shirish> not a problem, I know there is lot of .svg coolness people are testing on this, I saw some firefox tests happening sometime back where people were complaining some SVG issues, I know this one is supposed to be more inline with the .svg specs or atleast the specification
[08:21] <shirish> ubotu needs-packaging
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs-packaging - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <shirish> Ubulette: do you know the format of needs-packaging tag?
[08:23] <Ubulette> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags
[08:26] <shirish> Ubulette: actually was successful in doing it, ubotu needs to be updated about the tags stuff perhaps
[08:27] <Ubulette> I don't know
[08:27] <shirish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/133899 dunno if I could have presented the wishlist stuff better. There are quite a few neat things there, i.e. in the link given.
[08:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133899 in Ubuntu "add liblicense library" [Undecided,New] 
[08:29] <Ubulette> shirish, could not reproduce your adblock plus + Ctrl "+" crash
[08:30] <shirish> Ubulette: hang on, lemme give you more info. which Adblockplus it is.
[08:31] <shirish> Ubulette: this was adblock 0.7.5.1 http://adblockplus.org/en/ are you sure you were using this one?
[08:31] <Ubulette> trunk/gp a7 and adb+ 0.7.5.1
[08:32] <Ubulette> I had issues with tab mix plus though (since gp a6)
[08:32] <shirish> Ubulette: maybe then its also the filter which I'm subscribing too, Easylist
[08:33] <Ubulette> I'm not subscribed to any filter, I do mine manually
[08:34] <shirish> Ubulette: ah ok... as in turning off stuff when you dislike it
[08:34] <Ubulette> yes
[08:35] <shirish> Ubulette: good news, now on firefox-trunk
[08:36] <shirish> Ubulette: can't confirm it with Minefield though, the issue i.e.
[08:38] <shirish> Ubulette: anyway thanx for the sources, now will constantly update/upgrade the testing ones ;)
[08:38] <shirish> testing/trunk
[08:39] <shirish> Ubulette: are .svg images supposed to be manipulated, as in http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/demos/photos.svg I can put one .svg image in front of another & stuff like that.
[08:40] <Ubulette> yep, you can move and resize them
[08:42] <shirish> Ubulette: cool, I just saw the other link where the whole thing is being told about. This is pretty cool.  http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2007/08/svg-video-demo.html now just wish I had a better comp i.e. more RAM.
[08:44] <shirish> Ubulette: one advice, could you also make a firefox-dbgsym file, I dunno if that's hard or not, the thing is almost all the files which I do debug (although due to the kernel issue haven't been able to) I use the -dbgsym file
[08:46] <Ubulette> there's a problem right now, we need to investigate it.
[08:47] <shirish> Ubulette: are you talking about the bug you mentioned or what?
[08:48] <shirish> Ubulette: I was wondering, as I just did an 'aptitude search firefox-trunk' and saw there is only a -dbg build but nothing with -dbgsym & I usually download files with -dbgsym just in case I run into a bug then i don't have to download them again.
[08:49] <Ubulette> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html
[08:50] <Ubulette> it's not something generated by us
[08:50] <Ubulette> so I have to figure out if I can clone that feature on my own build system
[08:51] <shirish> Ubulette: thats quite an old link, again looking at it.
[08:52] <shirish> Ubulette: I do have pitti's ddebs archive in my repository list, do understand he might not have your -dbgsym but it would be nice to have that feature.
[08:54] <shirish> Ubulette: I would keep checking back as & when that feature is there in your build.
[08:58] <shirish> Ubulette: thanx for your time
[09:14] <shirish> Ubulette: you there m8?
[09:15] <Ubulette> yes
[09:16] <shirish> Ubulette: came up with an issue, firefox-trunk gives a segmentation fault when trying to install an extension called refcontrol
[09:16] <Ubulette> link?
[09:16] <shirish> http://www.stardrifter.org/refcontrol/
[09:17] <shirish> that's the extension link
[09:22] <shirish> Ubulette: another thing have you have been issues with updating the latest kernel stuff http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34556/ that's the thing I have been having
[09:23] <Ubulette> it crashed for me too but once. 2nd try succeeded, expect this addon is not compatible with FF 3.*
[09:25] <Ubulette> kernel pkgs seem broken at the moment
[09:27] <shirish> Ubulette: I know this addon is not compatible with FF3 or atleast not with 3.0a8 although it worked/works great with 3.0a7
[09:27] <shirish> Ubulette: I needed some data so that I can tell the developer that the package is not working. At my end it crashes each time.
[09:28] <Ubulette> it says only it's only compatible with 1.* and 2.0.0.*
[09:28] <shirish> Ubulette: if you go on the addons page, the author says he has made it compatible with ff 3.0a7
[09:29] <shirish> Ubulette: also it worked with my stuff in 3.0a7
[09:30] <shirish> Ubulette: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/953
[09:33] <Ubulette> no crash with gp a7
[09:33] <Ubulette> it installed fine
[09:34] <Ubulette> but after restart, it says not compatible with 3.0a7 and it's greyed out
[09:43] <shirish> Ubulette: can you post the same to the author perhaps, for me sometimes it works in ff 3.0a7 & sometimes doesn't. If you post an independant e-mail it would be better. Also you might be able to parse/ give error messages & stuff refcontrol@stardrifter.org
[09:44] <shirish> Ubulette: after installing it, try updating it, sometimes it gives an compatibility update or something, dunno if that happens at your end or not.