[02:05] <superm1> that sounds right
[02:06] <superm1> cornell, ^
[02:54] <OpenMedia> superm1: Do you know of anyone trying mythbuntu on an old XBox>?
[02:54] <superm1> I knew of some people that were interested, but i expect installation is a bit of a pain
[03:00] <OpenMedia> Might take a look for a front end device. They are so cheap now.
[03:04] <OpenMedia> superm1: what are you expecting to be the painful bits, or should I just try a vanilla ubuntu install and then add the frontend bits?
[03:05] <superm1> well you can't boot a standard iso in the xbox
[03:05] <OpenMedia> Ah.. That would be a bit of a killer then.
[03:07] <superm1> there are methods
[03:07] <superm1> i'd expect the easiest is some install to a usb disk
[03:07] <superm1> prior
[03:08] <superm1> and then to get a kernel booted and cp everything
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> what are you trying to do OpenMedia?
[03:19] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: Been looking at hardware for additional front end devices, and for a lot of cases and old XBox is ideal, and currently very cheap.
[03:19] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[03:19] <OpenMedia> Anyone else got frontend suggestions that are fanless and cheaper than mini-itx based kit.
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> im not sure if the xbox is powerful enough to run linux and mythtv
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> not enough ram
[03:20] <OpenMedia> I have requests for two grades of front end.
[03:20] <OpenMedia> 1. Basic SD support (fanless)
[03:20] <OpenMedia> 2. Full HD support (also fanless)
[03:20] <OpenMedia> XBox runs MythTV frontend just fine.
[03:20] <OpenMedia> Just wondering about using Mythbuntu or Ubuntu as the base.
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> really?
[03:21] <OpenMedia> Fine for SD MPEG2 playback and most AVI files.
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> you've tested/seen this on a regular xbox (not a dream system)
[03:22] <superm1> i've heard it can
[03:22] <superm1> on a regular xbox
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[03:23] <OpenMedia> I know some people running MythTV frontends on the Xbox. Haven't played with one myself.
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> i'd be sketiple
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> well there is a plugin for xbmc for mythtv
[03:23] <OpenMedia> Did have a play with an STB who's hardware spec was almost identical to the xbox and it made a perfect MythTV frontend.
[03:24] <superm1> OpenMedia, get it working w/ mythbuntu and tell me how, i know i haven't got the time to figure it out :)
[03:24] <OpenMedia> superm1: Hey no worries, Just checking on any gotchas.
[03:24] <OpenMedia> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> the reason im sketiple is that with only 64MB of ram and a striped down processor it has problems multitasking
[03:24] <OpenMedia> http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/MythTV_on_Xebian_HOWTO
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> if it works though, more power to you
[03:25] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, what is the url to your store?
[03:25] <tgm4883_laptop> OpenMedia = OpenMediaSupport?
[03:25] <OpenMedia> http://mypvr.co.nz is the product page. Sales links to our retail outlets
[03:26] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop:  Yeah.. I must still be logged in on my desktop
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> did you get my message earlier about the archiving?
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> maybe superm1 knows?
[03:27] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: sorry I must have missed it. You were asking if mytharchive would affect program expiry
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> does mytharchive put what your archiving into the autoexpire list?
[03:28] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, do you have any idea what the rough cost of your unit is in US $?
[03:28] <tgm4883_laptop> i have 2 programs that I am now missing
[03:28] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: Retail price with our support included is NZ$2000
[03:30] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, wow...thats a good chunk
[03:30] <foxbuntu> about US$1400
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> I want to say that i have seen that system somewhere
[03:31] <OpenMedia> Cheaper than local WinMCE based units.
[03:31] <OpenMedia> You can get the cases from NewEgg - NMedia makes them.
[03:31] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, how long have you been building and supporting them?
[03:31] <OpenMedia> Plus local WinMCE units are pre-configured.
[03:31] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: 18 months.
[03:32] <foxbuntu> hows that working for you?
[03:33] <OpenMedia> Little to slow, and interesting dealing with consumers rather than geeks
[03:33] <OpenMedia> Plus our current OS base is getting a little old, so i'm looking at Mythbuntu as the base for the next release
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[03:34] <tgm4883_laptop> i remember now
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> it was here, its similar to yours
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> http://store02.prostores.com/servlet/tvease/StoreFront
[03:35] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, as well am I. I am very business minded and always like looking for ventures like this.  I am considering a Mythbuntu based product for the US Market
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> I also remember looking here http://www.openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/ :)
[03:35] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, yea, I ran across that one just a little while ago
[03:35] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, did you see this http://www.monolithmc.com/index.php
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> ubuntu based mythtv systems
[03:36] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: yes that it us.. The product has been moved onto its own website so we can focus on some other solutions.
[03:36] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:37] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, i think the future is in home automation systems
[03:39] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, i dunno, I think TiVO and DVR have started becoming household terms...and because everyone wants the latest and coolest it is more about marketing a product than competition
[03:39] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop:  our problem is NZ consumers want retail rather than online outlets, which pushes our pricing up.
[03:39] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, mine sits behind my entertainment center :)
[03:39] <tgm4883_laptop> true, but the markup on those units is small
[03:40] <OpenMedia> Wonder what case they use as it looks a lot cheaper than ours.
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> the markup on home automation systems is high
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> OpenMedia, do you offer any rackmount cases?
[03:40] <OpenMedia> We had a review in a HIFI mag and they complained our case wasn't fancy enough.
[03:40] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, right, the issue with home automation is installation services
[03:40] <OpenMedia> We can do rackmount on request.
[03:40] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[03:41] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, I can build you a rack mount :)
[03:41] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, ideally you would want to do new construction only
[03:41] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, right
[03:41] <OpenMedia> I'm talking to commercial customers who want rackmount systems
[03:42] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, no...I can get a 2U rack case that would be  very nice
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> OpenMedia, I'm seeing whole house systems that use rackmount.  As since the backends would all be contained together
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, i dont have rackmount in my home....yet :)
[03:43] <foxbuntu> I am putting one in my house next
[03:43] <foxbuntu> er rather next house
[03:43] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, http://www.google.com/trends?q=dvr%2C+tivo%2C+mythtv%2C+home+automation&ctab=0&hl=en&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
[03:43] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: It looks like they are using the Asus barebone series of units for their PVRs.
[03:44] <tgm4883_laptop> I saw a really nice (expensive) system that mythtv would compare pretty well with, but it's still missing some basic features that are necessities compared to other products
[03:45] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, where does this grab from, search engine searches or?
[03:47] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, from google
[03:47] <foxbuntu> google searches
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> right, but is it listing the amount of go
[03:47] <tgm4883_laptop> ah ok
[03:48] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm not disagreeing with you btw, TiVo is hot right now, what im saying is that while TiVo is hot, everybody and his brother is doing DVR, when there are really only a few home automation systems out their right now
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> and even if you didn't go full home automation, there are other systems besides dvr that rock
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> full home audio, full home video
[03:49] <foxbuntu> http://www.ahanix.com/products/mce/mce_d5.php
[03:49] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm thinking that these are going to sky rocket in the next 3 to 7 years
[03:51] <OpenMedia> I've had conversations with customers about their ideal "really easy" home automation solution that they think would cost next to nothing. Sadly the real price is 5-10x what they expect. Making it appear easy is very expensive.
[03:52] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: Your missing programs. Have you looked in the logs to see when they were deleted?
[03:52] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, from a business prospective I want to get off the ground with whats hot and then work into whats coming
[03:59] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, there aren't a lot of choices for htpc's are there
[03:59] <foxbuntu> htpc cases that is
[04:00] <foxbuntu> wow...the Antec case is really nice however
[04:02] <OpenMedia> You either go cheap  - under US$80, medium 80-180, or silly, 200-500 just for the case.
[04:02] <OpenMedia> Locally I see a lot of HTPCs where the case price is NZ$600 retail along.
[04:03] <OpenMedia> s/along/alone/
[04:03] <foxbuntu> the antec case is about 180
[04:03] <foxbuntu> US$180
[04:03] <OpenMedia> Its about NZ$450 here.
[04:06] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: Hmm maybe wrong case. Which Antec case were you talking about?
[04:06] <foxbuntu> http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=08738#
[04:07] <OpenMedia> Yeah around NZ$420 here.
[04:07] <OpenMedia> Nice case though
[04:08] <foxbuntu> yea
[04:08] <foxbuntu> wow thats high
[04:09] <OpenMedia> There isn't the same demand = higher prices.
[04:09] <foxbuntu> right
[04:12] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, it's all about retro cases
[04:13] <OpenMedia> I like that antec case. Have to ask around my suppliers.
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> ie, sticking a mini-itx inside an NES
[04:13] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop, funny you mention that...I am working with troy_s to turn the Mythbuntu theme retro
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> nice
[04:14] <OpenMedia> OK the antec case trade wouid cost us double our current case price.. Ouch.
[04:14] <foxbuntu> ouch indeed
[04:14] <foxbuntu> thats a big profit loss
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> thats a nice case, how much is it?
[04:14] <foxbuntu> $180 US
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[04:15] <OpenMedia> We'd have to offer it at a different price.
[04:15] <foxbuntu> yea
[04:16] <OpenMedia> Plus NZ average retail margin is also high.
[04:16] <foxbuntu> but you would have to find a way to market it so that the price doesn't change that much with it only being a case change
[04:16] <foxbuntu> OpenMedia, oh really?
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> it's a nice case, but not a $200 case
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> but then again, i wouldn't pay 200 for a case
[04:16] <OpenMedia> What would you consider it worth tgm4883_laptop?
[04:17] <foxbuntu> tgm4883_laptop,  indeed me either :) I have my Myth box in a 30
[04:17] <foxbuntu> $30 case
[04:18] <OpenMedia> That is always a problem. I had some people complain because they can build a myth box for NZ$200 from spare old parts. Problem is they have 10% of the featured of my units and it looks a mess. Hence we aim at consumers who are willing to pay the margin for the premium product.
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> OpenMedia, well I wouldn't pay $200 for any case, i'd probably max out around 125 - 150
[04:18] <OpenMedia> Man these guys have to be joking. Talk about a high price for that case - admin@openmedia.co.nz
[04:19] <tgm4883_laptop> but thats max, and it would have to be a special thinig
[04:19] <OpenMedia> Whoops.. - http://www.millenniumtechnology.co.nz/product_select.php?area=20&product_id=36&cat1_id=6
[04:19] <foxbuntu> that was good OpenMedia
[04:20] <foxbuntu> HOLY CRAP
[04:21] <OpenMedia> Yeah that one was a bit exreme.
[04:21] <foxbuntu> thats quite sad
[04:22] <OpenMedia> I can get it for a lot cheaper trade, but it is still quite a bit more than our existing cases.
[04:23] <foxbuntu> yea
[04:24] <foxbuntu> I would have to get back into the channel around here and find out what I can get it priced out at
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> OpenMedia, I swear that I was in Fry's and saw that case for around $98.  Probably a knock off
[04:30] <foxbuntu> oh theres is what I need for my next overkill project
[04:30] <foxbuntu> the new antec 1000w power supply
[04:47] <OpenMedia> foxbuntu: Hmm How much storage could you hang off that before it gives out ;)
[05:36] <superm1> laga, woah.  this gdebi magic in pbuilder is amazing
[05:36] <superm1> you shoudl have made me turn it on ages ago
[05:43] <OpenMedia> superm1: Hmmm cool tool.. I like it.
[05:44] <superm1> OpenMedia, which?
[05:44] <superm1> the control centre?
[05:45] <OpenMedia> gdebi
[05:45] <OpenMedia> Hmm now onto control centre.
[05:45] <OpenMedia> Am I supposed to be able to run it as any user from the command line?
[05:46] <superm1> OpenMedia, as a user with sudo rights
[05:46] <OpenMedia> I put one of the issues I had with it into launchpad.
[05:46] <superm1> about gdebi?
[05:46] <OpenMedia> Ok well I don't get a gui
[05:46] <superm1> or control centre
[05:46] <OpenMedia> Ok we'll talk about your control centre.
[05:46] <OpenMedia> I installed it onto 3 mythbuntu environments
[05:46] <superm1> right
[05:46] <OpenMedia> 1 - just a frontend
[05:46] <OpenMedia> 2 - slave backend
[05:46] <OpenMedia> 3 - full install
[05:47] <OpenMedia> First up it pulled in a bunch of updates that weren't in alpha3, plus I noticed that the backend installs lirc support.. Hmm.
[05:48] <superm1> well the lirc support is needed to properly build the GUI
[05:48] <superm1> i've thought about ways to break that up
[05:48] <OpenMedia> Next I tried to run it on the command line, and on first run it got this error - https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/133633
[05:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133633 in mythbuntu "mythstream error on first run of mythbuntu-control-centre" [Undecided,New] 
[05:48] <superm1> like make a lirc-common package
[05:48] <OpenMedia> Some issue with mythstream... Odd
[05:48] <superm1> OpenMedia, oh, i didn't even consider that you couldn't do that yet.  mythstream isn't in the archive
[05:48] <superm1> its in my local archive
[05:48] <superm1> but not in the official one
[05:49] <superm1> tgm4883, finished it, but it needs to be acked yet
[05:49] <OpenMedia> Now neither of these systems have a local DB as well.
[05:49] <OpenMedia> I also tried on a full front+back+DB install of mythbuntu but again no gui starts up.
[05:49] <superm1> OpenMedia, yea you won't be able to due to that mythstream issue
[05:49] <superm1> hold off until alpha4, things will clear up by then
[05:50] <superm1> and i can properly show you what it can do
[05:50] <superm1> sorry :)
[05:50] <OpenMedia> Ok cool. any ETA on alpha4?
[05:50] <OpenMedia> No worries I'm having fun splitting myPVR to support seperate front+backends
[05:51] <OpenMedia> Plus I've had 2 talks accepted at the Open Source Developers Conference in Brisbane ;)
[05:51] <superm1> well i want schedules direct support in it, so its not going to be until then
[05:51] <superm1> so at least a week
[05:51] <OpenMedia> superm1: Don't they have the driver in fixes yet? Or do you need and xmltv update?
[05:52] <superm1> it is a bit more complex than that unfortunately
[05:52] <superm1> it needs a newer -fixes checkout
[05:52] <OpenMedia> Yeah I know about that as I'm testing a newer -fixes build at the moment.
[05:52] <superm1> meaning that we have to do Stable Release Updates to a whole assortment of releases
[05:52] <superm1> so testing this across dapper, edgy, feisty, and gutsy
[05:53] <OpenMedia> It is an interesting double edged sword. Means an xmltv upgrade and other bits, but I means that our EPG grabber and be a real one rather than pretend to be the tv_grab_au version.
[05:53] <superm1> xmltv upgrade too?
[05:53] <OpenMedia> For us. Standard myPVR version doesn't support tv_find_grabbers
[05:54] <OpenMedia> No issues when running on Mythbuntu
[05:54] <superm1> oh i see
[06:06] <superm1> laga, regarding pbuilder-gdebi -it really is quite a double edged sword.  it is blazing quick, but you can't use unsigned repositories.  so say goodbye to locally building mythplugins and mythtv combo
[08:14] <superm1> keescook, i tested the schedules direct patched packages on feisty, gutsy and dapper.  all seem to work out well (doing a fully updated checkout)
[08:16] <superm1> this of course was using updated packaging that is in use in gutsy.  for the case of the SRU's i'd assume that the packaging that came with that release would be used
[01:32] <cornell_work> Morning all
[02:24] <DaveMorris> morning
[02:56] <cornell_work> DaveMorris, I've got the database working.  And the files in the right place ;-)
[02:57] <cornell_work> So... the remote doesn't work, the sound doesn't work, and the video on the monitor is poor quality.
[02:57] <cornell_work> First, remote... I'm looking at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Gutsy?highlight=%28lirc%29%7C%28mythtv%29%7C%28remote%29
[02:57] <cornell_work> Then, the video...  apt-get install nvidia-glx  (I think)
[02:57] <DaveMorris> thats a nasty list of things to work on
[02:57] <cornell_work> And for sound... well, more googling.
[02:59] <DaveMorris> how is your video outputted?  It might just need the nvida stuff
[02:59] <cornell_work> And... it doesn't start into mythfrontend.  When I boot, I get a login screen.  When I login (oops, I'm logging in as me) I get a desktop, with start/stop backend and run mythfilldatabase, and something else, I forget.
[02:59] <cornell_work> Well, I've an nvidia card and I'm watching on the monitor, not a tv.
[02:59] <DaveMorris> yeah the mythtuser should auto log in
[03:00] <DaveMorris> how are you trying to output the sound?  Are you sure it's not muted
[03:00] <cornell_work> So, next time, login as mythtv.  But then, when I reboot, will mythtv user auto login?  Or am I missing a setting?
[03:00] <DaveMorris> your missing something, might be since you didn't finish the install
[03:01] <DaveMorris> tbh I'd leave it till the other things are solved
[03:01] <cornell_work> Sound... cable from back of box to monitor.  Monitor sound is up full.  Don't know about about myth's sound volume (remote don't work, and I don't know the keyboard command)   Sound is last on my list ;-)
[03:02] <DaveMorris> stereo cable?
[03:02] <cornell_work> Well, I did an install up to the setup.  Interrupted, fixed lvm and then continued with mythtv-setup.
[03:02] <cornell_work> Stereo, yes
[03:02] <DaveMorris> grab a terminal and run alsamixer
[03:03] <DaveMorris> although you prob at work looking at your handle
[03:04] <cornell_work> alsamixer!  that's right.  I'd had trouble when I installed knoppmyth, but I didn't make notes and don't remember.  And I think there's some settings re audio I need to make in myth, but I can't remember if that was settings for when I record, or settings for setting up audio.
[03:04] <cornell_work> Yeah, work
[03:04] <cornell_work> There was something I had to do command line, it might be alsamixer.
[03:05] <DaveMorris> My sound output is always muted when I 1st install Ubuntu on it since I use the digital out
[03:06] <cornell_work> bbiab
[05:30] <cornell_work> Back...
[05:30] <cornell_work> I'll try the alsamixer, and nvidia-glx tonight
[08:13] <laga> superm1:
[08:13] <laga> 20:02 < gbee> Cardoe, j-rod, superm1, laga: It's a minor thing and not that important in the grand scheme, but it would be nice if packagers could either build off a checkout of the tagged version or manually edit version.pro so that the "SVN Branch" part of the --version output shows 0.20.2
[09:57] <superm1> laga, considering the timing of the 0.20.2 package, i think that building off of it as a tagged version will be more than feasible
[09:58] <laga> didn't have time to look at the build system today, sorry
[11:07] <tgm4883> is the pvr-150 blaster support already implemented in mythbuntu?
[11:07] <superm1> tgm4883, well the modules are built for it
[11:07] <superm1> but it needs the firmware dropped in place
[11:07] <tgm4883> ah
[11:07] <superm1> i dont have anyway to test it to make sure that it is well done
[11:07] <tgm4883> have you seen the 2 new blueprints
[11:08] <superm1> tgm4883, no not yet.
[11:09] <superm1> i've been trying to work out some details that are surrounding the 0.20.2 release
[11:09] <superm1> we have a few more things that need to be done for it
[11:10] <tgm4883> one is for the pvr-150 blaster, and 1 is for a pad2keys patch
[11:10] <tgm4883> the 20.2 will have SD support?
[11:10] <tgm4883> Are you in the SD beta?
[11:10] <superm1> yes
[11:10] <superm1> and yes
[11:11] <tgm4883> sweet, any testing done on it?
[11:11] <superm1> yup
[11:11] <superm1> last night i did test builds for gutsy dapper and feisty
[11:11] <tgm4883> sounds like it went well ?
[11:11] <superm1> well i had one item to sort out with a channel that didn't broadcast its name or channel number properly on QAM-256
[11:11] <superm1> but that would have happened with zap2it as well
[11:11] <tgm4883> ah
[11:11] <superm1> otherwise, it was a smooth switchover
[11:12] <tgm4883> good to know
[11:12] <tgm4883> did you have the zip problem or is that isolated?
[11:13] <superm1> it's isolated from what i understand
[11:13] <superm1> my zip code worked perfectly
[11:13] <tgm4883> sweet
[11:13] <tgm4883> I wonder if it has to do with towns that have multiple zips, and not using the main zip
[11:13] <superm1> well don't most towns?
[11:14] <tgm4883> yea
[11:14] <superm1> yea i was going to say here at school, we have 50010-50015
[11:15] <tgm4883> I haven't researched it at all yet, but what do you think about (if it exists) a irc plugin for drupal that connects to here?
[11:15] <superm1> that'd be pretty sweet
[11:16] <superm1> to put on the support page?
[11:16] <superm1> some java applet or the like
[11:16] <tgm4883> yep
[11:16] <tgm4883> yea
[11:16] <superm1> +1 from me if you can find one
[11:16] <tgm4883> i'll do some looking around.  Playing around with the theme right now at linux.weilandhomes.com
[11:18] <superm1> well that one you hvae right now looks pretty nice and basic
[11:18] <superm1> oh wait nvm
[11:18] <superm1> more loaded
[11:19] <superm1> that needs some clean up :)
[11:20] <tgm4883> yea, i need to resize the background pic (its almost 8 MB) and move the theme around
[11:20] <tgm4883> its a chameleon theme just messing around configuring it
[11:22] <superm1> the nice thing about having mythbuntu.weilandhomes.com too, if we want somewhere to experiment with themes
[11:22] <superm1> can easily do so there
[11:23] <tgm4883> yep
[11:25] <tgm4883> quick question superm1, is the rss icon in rss readers the same as the fav icon?
[11:26] <superm1> Hm.
[11:26] <superm1> i'm not sure on that
[11:26] <tgm4883> i only ask because the mythbuntu.org rss in my rss reader (liferea) is the standard orange one, not the mythbuntu icon
[11:26] <OpenMedia> superm1: so have they tagged 0.20.2 then?
[11:27] <tgm4883> but its the mythbuntu icon in my bookmarks and the address bar
[11:27] <superm1> oh tgm4883 its a fav icon that should only show up in web browsers i think
[11:27] <superm1> OpenMedia, not yet.
[11:27] <superm1> OpenMedia, but i'm preparing the packages for some changes when they do
[11:28] <tgm4883> ah, we should have it do both, as my ubuntuforums and espn rss feeds have their own icons
[11:28] <superm1> tgm4883, do you know how to?
[11:29] <tgm4883> nope
[11:29] <superm1> what file name you need to give it?
[11:29] <tgm4883> but i'll look it up
[11:31] <OpenMedia> superm1: aside from the SD stuff what else are you expecting from the 0.20.2 tag?
[11:31] <superm1> OpenMedia, that is the big thing for it
[11:32] <superm1> i'm not sure if there is anything big to look forward to in it
[11:32] <superm1> other than stability stuff of coruse
[11:32] <superm1> course
[11:32] <OpenMedia> superm1: Same here. Rest is just the usual bug fixes.
[11:32] <superm1> but the SD stuff is big enough :)
[11:34] <OpenMedia> For the US guys yeah.... Guess you all now understand the pain we feel in the rest of the world ;)
[11:34] <superm1> well not really, since we have no interruption in service :)
[11:38] <OpenMedia> Ok.. show off..
[12:07] <tgm4883> superm1, what do you use for RSS on mythbuntu.org
[12:08] <superm1> tgm4883, it's built into drupal
[12:53] <tgm4883> superm1, can you place a copy of the favicon into the root dir
[12:53] <superm1> tgm4883, would a symlink do?
[12:53] <tgm4883> perhaps
[12:54] <tgm4883> try it and i'll let you know
[12:54] <superm1> favicon.png?
[12:54] <superm1> need to be the name?
[12:54] <tgm4883> favicon.ico
[12:54] <superm1> okay
[12:54] <superm1> it's there
[12:55] <tgm4883> sweet it works
[12:56] <superm1> cool, easy nough
[12:56] <tgm4883> yea, after much asking in forums and searching, i decided to visit the liferea site
[12:56] <tgm4883> and certain rss grabbers look for favicon.ico
[12:57] <superm1> ahh
[12:57] <tgm4883> but since mythbuntu.org's wasn't in the root it couldn't find it
[12:57] <tgm4883> there's no module for an IRC client for drupal.  There was one, but it looks dead
[12:58] <superm1> well perhaps if you can find one at at external site that is nice, and can just be linked to
[12:58] <superm1> like it takes an argument for what server to join
[12:58] <superm1> and what channel
[12:58] <superm1> so they can click that and it will automatically go
[01:08] <tgm4883> superm1, Ability to run CGI scripts using Perl 5.004 or greater?
[01:08] <superm1> on mythbuntu.org?
[01:08] <tgm4883> yea
[01:08] <superm1> should be able to
[01:08] <tgm4883> ok
[01:09] <tgm4883> first link i found
[01:09] <tgm4883> http://cgiirc.org/download/
[01:09] <superm1> we've got perl 5.8.7
[01:09] <tgm4883> supposedly packed in ubuntu
[01:10] <superm1> tgm4883, you want to try it on your test server?
[01:10] <superm1> and see how it looks/works?
[01:10] <tgm4883> sure
[01:10] <tgm4883> thats what it's their for :)