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bart_17ii  alsa-base                                  1.0.13-3ubuntu1                        ALSA driver configuration files01:13
bart_17ii  alsa-utils                                 1.0.13-1ubuntu5                        ALSA utilities01:13
bart_17ii  libesd-alsa0                               0.2.36-3ubuntu4                        Enlightened Sound Daemon (ALSA) - Shared lib01:13
bart_17ii  libsdl1.2debian-alsa                       1.2.11-7ubuntu1                        Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA01:13
bart_17ii  xfce4-mixer-alsa                           4.4.0-0ubuntu1                         Xfce4 Mixer ALSA backend01:13
Jester45!pastebin01:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:14
Jester45you got alsa installed01:14
cellofellowwhat is it? Sound not working?01:15
bart_17yes, sound not working01:15
bart_17it's an asus a6rpnotebook01:15
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bart_17how do i update alsa?01:22
Jester45thats the newest version in the repo01:22
Jester45if you want a newer version you would have to compile but what you where trying before was older01:23
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bart_17i have the newer verision, the one installed is 1.0.1301:23
bart_17the one i downloaded is 1.0.1401:24
cellofellowsorry, the extent of my experience with ALSA is it either works or it doesn't. Never gotten a non-working setup working before.01:26
kekkI had a problem with alsa a few days ago, some other driver (oss?) was running so I had to stop esd or something like that. don't remember really well01:26
cellofellowALSA has OSS emulation (for backwards-compatibility).01:27
cellofellowLike Audacity uses OSS by default (but can use ALSA too).01:28
kekkthe problem was with audacity, it just went silent for no apparent reason01:29
kekkno, sorry. audacious*, I keep confusing the two01:29
cellofellowme too01:30
cellofellowok, so you have an XMMS-based player not working. What about Xine or GStreamer? Or just aplay?01:31
kekkme? I fixed it01:31
cellofellowoh, ok, sorry01:31
cellofellow:P01:31
kekkhehe, no problem01:31
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viddSportChick, your a freenode sysop? i have an issue01:43
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viddnalioth, you a sysop?02:06
eugmanWould xubuntu be better for running off of a usb harddrive?02:06
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Jester45better than what? ubuntu?02:11
viddbetter is a relative term02:12
bart_17how do you install : libncurses5-dev02:14
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naliothvidd: i'm on staff here, if that's what you mean.02:18
viddi have an issue....02:18
vrkhanshi I am planning to install xubuntu but my wireless card which is from Realtek is not detected, what should I do02:18
eugmanyes ubuntu. I asking if it'd probably be more suitable given it's lower requirements02:18
viddi forgot my bot's nick password and wanted to know what i needed to do to reset it nalioth02:19
naliothvidd: what is the bots nick?02:19
viddnalioth, it is vidd-bot02:19
naliothwhat was it doing, vidd ?02:20
naliothand there is no way to reset the pass (no email was given to nickserv)02:20
viddi had lost the scripts and needed to reinstall02:21
viddso i have to wait 60 days for it to expire to re-request it?02:22
naliothwhy was it using tor?02:22
vrkhanscan some one help me02:23
vrkhanshow i can install my wire less card02:23
viddjust to hold two of my rooms and for some games/info02:23
nalioth!wireless02:24
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:24
naliothvidd: http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml#tor02:25
viddvrkhans, what issue you having from your card?02:26
vrkhanswhen I did lspci, I had that card listed but is not loaded02:27
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viddwhat did it say the card was?02:28
vrkhansrealtek02:29
vrkhans Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)02:29
vrkhansthis is the card02:30
vrkhansI dont know why it is not detected02:30
viddit is detected....otherwise lspci would not show it02:31
viddyou need the driver for it installed....02:31
vrkhansbut in the network it is not shown02:32
viddhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-416993.html02:32
viddsee if that helps02:33
vrkhansi didnt get02:34
vrkhansI am reading02:34
viddnalioth, i dont understand....02:36
vrkhansfound no solution02:48
vrkhanscan any one help02:48
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viddnalioth, if i remove the tor server, will the bot work again?03:01
viddand how do i reset the password?03:01
naliothvidd: you cannot reset the password for another 59ish days03:02
PumpernickelYou want to reset a password, without authenticating to show you have the rights to modify the password?03:02
Pumpernickel*blinks*03:02
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rathelHow do I turn down the sensitivity on my Scroll Wheel?03:41
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retourHow to create desktop icons in Xfce????04:14
Jester45for what04:14
retourexactly I had default desktop with my drives filesystem etc. Than I've installed K3B and everything dissapeared04:15
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Jester45try richt clicking on the desktop04:16
Jester45then desktop preferences -> behavior04:16
Jester45then at the bottom is Show icons for04:16
Jester45if its checked uncheck and logout/restart/kill X04:17
Jester45then log back in04:17
Jester45if they are still gone go back and check them04:17
retourOK right click doesnt work - what now?????04:18
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Jester45aa04:19
Jester45much easier think04:19
Jester45alt +F204:19
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Jester45type xfdeskop then click run04:19
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retourYay! I wanna kiss you! Thank you!!!!!!! What it is/was exactly???? system bug or by mashing keyboard I've activated some magic spell?04:22
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Jester45it crashes some times04:22
Jester45also04:22
Jester45if you lose your panel04:22
Jester45do the same but type xfce4-panel04:22
Jester45or window borders are xfwm404:22
retourErrr about that it crashes - I've restarted my PC many times - this option was like locked setting04:23
viddwhat...the two panel issue?04:23
Jester45he lost xfdesktop04:24
retourno - no icons or desktop wallpaper04:24
viddoh04:24
Jester45i was telling him the other things that die04:24
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retourI also have question related to window managers. Which one is the fastest one ? Takes least amount of resources? I want to log into fastest one only to play my game which was impossible under Mandriva+KDE, very slow Ubuntu/Gnome and moderate under Xubuntu04:27
Jester45none04:28
riciscreen :)04:28
Jester45if all you want to use it that one game ut everything out the windowmanger panel desktop04:28
retourhmmm U mean no GUI but I'm afraid my game will refuse to start! Its a 3D shooter based on Enemy Territory engine04:29
retourIs it possible to run 3D graphics apps from command line with X11 off?04:29
retour"ut " everything???04:30
Jester45you can run them from the cli but they have to have a X server to output ot04:31
Jester45to*04:31
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Jester45so you can be in a terminal and run the command and point it to go to the X server but you cant run a 3d app without X04:32
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retourThank you Jester - Sounds a bit complicated. How you would do this Having workin Xfce for normal workstation use and than needed to free all possible resources (for gaming of course)?04:36
Jester45have 2 diffrent gdm sessions04:36
Jester45one for normal04:37
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Jester45and when you want to game logout and log in the minimal session04:37
Jester45or04:37
retourGDM = Graphics Display Manager = Xfce?04:37
Jester45you could try a diffrent wm like fluxbox or openbox04:37
Jester45xubuntu uses gdm04:37
Jester45it was gdm or kdm and kdm is a lot slower04:38
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Jester45i would like a custom one or xdm04:38
Jester45i my self use startxfce404:38
retourSo I should google for fastest window manager, install it and that switch sessions04:38
Jester45!evilwm04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about evilwm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
Jester45!info evilwm04:39
ubotuevilwm: a minimalist window manager for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.21-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 104 kB04:39
Jester45its a 1 pixel black line for a boarder04:40
retourerr it will give me some option to create icon as a shortcut to my game file or at least command line to run it or some kinda script to bind it to Alt+F12 etc?04:41
Jester45well04:42
Jester45i think you have to kill xfwm4 and then start evilwm04:42
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Jester45you could script it to do thatthen start the game04:42
Jester45but i dont think you going to get much more speed from it04:42
retourhmm sounds complicated nothing to just select session during the log in time?04:43
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Jester45it would be simple if i knew how to use sed04:46
retourdo you think killing some system services would give me anything? But in process manager they are idle at about 0% CPU load04:47
retourwhat is SED?04:47
retourAdditionaly what do you think about using different kernel? Default is generic what means nothing to me. Should I experiment with 386 or 686 or some other versions?04:49
viddretour, the generic is like "universal"04:50
retourBTW anybody here successful installing ANY modern distro on Compaq Proliant 2500 (dual Pentium Pro + SCSI Raid Controller)?04:50
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viddif you want to experiment with the others, go ahead....just back your data up =] 04:50
retourvidd: Any hints which kernel will be the slimest one without all extra add ons? PIII 550Mhz here04:51
viddnope04:52
viddgeneric works just fine for me04:52
retourlooks like I should compile my own - If I only had enough experience04:53
viddi dont run desktops on my machines that old04:53
maxamillionretour: i have run desktops on machines that old .... only drawback with the generic kernel is boot time is a little slow, but with the ubuntu upstart system it only actually loads the modules needed by boot04:53
retourThats just a broke in system man! hehe Anyway I had great success installing Damn Small Linux on Pentium 200MMX + 64MB RAM + 4GB HDD. Very snappy beast for typical simple office internet apps04:54
retourmaxamillion: thank you!04:55
maxamillionretour: no problem :)04:55
viddretour, i run 3 servers, 2 laptops and a desktop04:56
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retourmaxamillion: how you make such a remark? I mean IRC channel trick to be displayed this way?04:57
viddretour,  start you statement with /me04:57
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maxamilliondoes whatever a spider pig does :)04:58
retourHA thank you! extra knowledge is always good04:58
maxamillionthat it is04:58
maxamillionjeebus i LOVE documentation04:58
maxamillionmakes the world go round04:58
retourOK thank you folks for your kindness.I dont want to abuse it too much tonight so back to great search for light speed window manager. Bye04:59
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maxamillionahhh!!! i have one for him ....05:03
maxamillionopenbox05:03
maxamillionmmmmm openbox05:03
Jester45i said that05:03
maxamillionoh ... i missed it05:03
Jester45one ahead of you maxamillion05:03
Jester45yea i know05:04
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superkirbyartistHello?05:31
Jester45?olleH05:31
superkirbyartistThe login manager won't start correctly.05:31
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viddplease define "correctly"05:32
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Jester45sorry Pumpernickel dont ban me05:32
maxamillionPumpernickel: ?05:32
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PumpernickelNot here, too.05:32
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=== tonyyarusso Pumpernickel a) I don't think the fourth IP section changes (yet), so the * may be overkill. b) Note that you haven't removed him yet, in case that wasn't intentional. ;)
PumpernickelHmmm.05:33
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PumpernickelChannel hopping troll, for anyone curious.05:42
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rathelHow do I turn down the sensitivity on my Scroll Wheel?06:07
cellofellowone sec...06:07
cellofellowok, it's not in the mouse control panel06:07
rathelNo.06:07
cellofellowNo complaints with mine though, so I don't no how.06:08
rathelAh, Okay.06:08
Pumpernickelhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/9200 seems to suggest it's not currently possible.06:09
cellofellowX just never bothered to have adjustability in wheels, ah?06:10
cellofelloweh06:10
PumpernickelSeems like it.06:10
rathelOh okay that sucks, It only seems to happen under XFCE, Under Gnome and KDE it wasn't so sensitive.06:11
cellofellowthen GNOME and KDE have a control on it that XFCE doesn't.06:12
viddrathel, there is a way to adjust it....06:12
viddim looking into it now06:12
cellofellow(please don't expect xfce to have every feature under the sun.)06:13
viddits IS in the mouse contol panel06:13
rathelcellofellow, yeah but was hoping for something for scroll wheel sensitivity.. lol06:14
viddis it too fast or too slow?06:14
rathelFast.06:14
rathelThat firefox trick, doesn't work for me, it jitters like it slowed down but it's doesn't effect it much.. lol06:15
viddrathel, what screen resolution are you using?06:21
rathel1440x90006:21
viddi think your issue is because of the sceen resolution more then the mouse06:22
viddbut i could be wrong06:22
rathelBut it isn't so sensitive under Gnome or KDE, I  think it's something with XFCE. :(06:22
viddhave you adjusted the "accessibility" options in mouse preferences?06:25
rathelDoesn't do anything.06:26
viddthen i dont know06:26
viddwhat kind of mouse?06:26
rathelI've been thinking, maybe something got screwed up, because this was originally a Kubuntu install, and I removed KDE and replaced it with XFCE.06:26
viddwell...you could try a clean install06:27
vidd=] 06:27
rathelIt's a microsoft wireless notebook mouse 400.06:27
vidd+didnt your mother ever teach you about playing with snakes?06:28
vidd=] 06:28
cellofellowsnakes, eh?06:28
rathelBut I play with mine every night. :P06:28
cellofellowNo, my mother taught me to play with snakes by freaking out whenever she saw one and making it entertaining.06:28
viddhaha06:29
cellofellowj/k, I just couldn't resist the retort.06:29
rathelI would reinstall with Xubuntu... but my cd's always get screwed up with Xubuntu. it's the weirdest thing.06:29
vidd"they are there to keep the rabbits and feild mice out of the garden...not to poke at with a stick"06:30
viddso get the mini iso06:30
cellofellowthere are like a dozen mosquitos in my computer nook.06:31
vidddo a net install06:31
rathelI didn't think ubuntu had mini isos.. lol guess I didn't look hard enough.06:31
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cellofellowit's new06:31
viddcellofellow, its been around since breezy at least06:32
viddyou can either dig it upo in the archives...or get it from http://vidd.us/downloads06:33
rathelOkay, thanks.06:34
viddhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso06:34
viddi have the gutsy and fiesty on my downloads page06:35
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viddoh that reminds me....06:35
cellofellowit's the mole! Hi grumpymole!06:35
viddcellofellow, you still having issues with fonts in FF?06:36
grumpymolehey!06:36
cellofellowyes06:36
viddgo to about:config06:36
cellofellowok06:36
viddsearch dpi06:36
viddset it to 9606:36
viddrestart FF06:36
cellofellowalready is06:37
vidd=\06:37
viddits not -1?06:37
cellofellowthat's right06:37
cellofellowlayout.css.dpi06:37
viddyeah'06:37
grumpymolei saw something recently that suggested setting layout.css.dpi to 0 to make it take the sytem default06:38
viddyes...if you WANT system default06:38
cellofellowmaybe on the higher res if I set it to 100 I'll do better06:39
cellofellow1280x1024 on a 16" viewable should be about 100dpi right?06:40
viddtry 0 or 12006:40
cellofellowok, I'll have to edit xorg.conf though06:40
viddno...in about:config06:40
cellofellowI'll do that later06:40
cellofellowNo, I mean to set the resolution back to 1280x1024, I'm using 1152x864 right now.06:41
viddwhats wrong with the display settings tool?06:41
cellofellowI removed 1280x1024 from xorg.conf and it is no longer in that tool.06:42
viddah06:42
cellofellowbefore I had either different resolutions in GDM and XFCE (annoying) or I had a scrolling desktop (more annoying).06:43
viddif the font is too small you want to make the # SMALLER06:44
cellofellowthe dpi number?06:44
viddso if 96 is too small, set it to 8006:44
viddyes06:44
cellofellowok06:44
cellofellowI though fonts only came in 72 or 96 though.06:45
cellofellowthought*06:45
viddas an experiment, i switched from 96 to 120, and the font got smaller06:45
viddwell..then use 7206:45
vidd=] 06:45
cellofellow:-)06:46
viddyeah....setting it to 72 makes it REALLY big on my screen06:48
cellofellowok, I'll experiment. Things are fine with 96 at this res though, so, thanks.06:49
viddif you set it to 0 it will use the same settings as your system06:49
cellofellowwhatever those are.06:49
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zs6jceHYPER_CH  hello are you there??07:41
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Catoptromancy_I wonder how much can be done with a live CD07:49
Catoptromancy_instead of ever installing, just save programs and stuff to a FAT3207:49
tonyyarussoCatoptromancy_: I've known people who ran them for weeks.07:52
Catoptromancy_heh cool07:53
Catoptromancy_installing with aptitude?07:53
Catoptromancy_compiling?07:53
Catoptromancy_would need to mount a folder on HD as /07:54
Catoptromancy_i think07:54
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lnxhow i can make xubuntu to not save the session and start without any windows on restart ?10:03
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lnxhow i can make xubuntu to not save the session and start without any windows on restart ?10:10
Ramlalnx: settings/sessions and startup/ untick 'automatically save session on logout'10:16
Ramlathen you'll probably still have the old session info saved in, let me figure out10:17
Ramlapossibly ~/.config/xfce4-session but I'm not sure10:19
Ramlaremoving it should remove any session information, but just to be sure not to lose anything in case i'm wrong, just rename the directory10:20
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brokenthornGuys, I'm trying to install xubus on a very old PC10:32
brokenthornIt has only 32MB of RAM10:32
brokenthornIt went into Low mem mode10:32
brokenthornAnd said I should install at least 36MB of RAM10:32
brokenthornI ignored the warning though10:33
brokenthornIt's still installing10:33
brokenthornDo you guys think it will install ok?10:33
brokenthornAlso, I have only 990MB for the instalation, I hope that is enough. It didn't give any warning on that part.10:34
brokenthornThe rest, about 110 MB, I left for the swap space10:34
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brokenthornI chosed Xubuntu because nothing else would install. Ubuntu needs at least 64 MB of RAM, Arch's kernel hangs (tried nosmp acpi=off pci=routeirq...)... Xubuntu works :)10:36
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john_doehow comes my ~/.profile is not sourced at login?12:40
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lnxhow i can change shortcut icon of shortcut that is on the desktop ?12:44
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lnxhow i can change shortcut icon ?01:08
Jester45please do not repeat your question often01:10
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ThatLazyGuyi need some help with the startup programs in xubuntu01:30
Jester45 what about them01:33
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refhi, why would bootcdwrite want so bad to access files in /sys??01:38
reffile /sys/module/sbs/parameters/capacity_mode (and others) not be accessible to mkisofs while running bootcdwrite as root01:40
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refthe /sys folder keeps infos about the hardware and is loaded on RAM, are these acertions right?01:45
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ThatLazyGuyHi, i'm new to Xubuntu, i want to know how can i manage the startup programs in Xubuntu?01:55
ThatLazyGuyIt starts beryl manager(which i dont use) and amarok on start up01:55
ThatLazyGuyi want to disable them01:55
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lnxwhy onstartup a terminal window is open automatic ?02:03
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lnxsomeone know why i can select files on the desktop ?02:48
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john_doehow comes my ~/.profile is not sourced at login? Which one is sourced in stead?02:50
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WormyAnyone awake in here?04:35
lnxsomeone know why i can select files on the desktop ?04:45
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kekklnx, you want to hide the FIlesystem, Home folder etc?04:56
lnxkekk , no , when i move the mouse and right click i want to have that "square" that i select with him icon - for example when i have on the desktop 5 files and i want to delete them all i need to solect them and then to right click and then delete04:58
lnxbut i cant select . . .04:58
kekkoh, sorry, misunderstood you.04:59
lnxkekk , i cant select icon ( like home trash .. . )05:01
kekkhmm, I don't know how to help you I'm afraid. I installed xubuntu yesterday :)05:02
lnxkekk , just tell me do you can select icon with the mouse like i told you ?05:03
kekkone sec, xubuntu is on my other machine in the other room05:03
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kekkoh I see what you mean05:05
kekkI can't do it either05:05
kekkin a directory, when browsing files, I can do it though05:06
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lnxkekk , but on the desktop you cant ?05:08
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kekkyes05:08
kekkonly ctrl+click, it's annoying05:09
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lnxok so its not problem on my pc :)05:10
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kekkwhat's an easy way to share files between two (x)ubuntu machines?05:45
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luckzdo I want to read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu or something completely different for Xubuntu repository management?06:16
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lnxwhy console in automatic open when the system start ?06:27
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TheSheeplnx: you saved it with your session06:46
TheSheeplnx: just close it and save session again06:46
lnxTheSheep , how ?06:46
TheSheeplnx: there is a checkbox when you're logging out06:47
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=== vidd wants to remove gdm and have startxfce4 in its place....
viddhow would i do that?07:09
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TheSheepvidd: you want to have startxfce4 run as root? O.o07:13
viddwell yeah....07:14
TheSheepbad idea07:14
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viddgdm is messed up in gutsy....its using the wrong dpi07:14
viddif i knew how to fix that...that would be just as well07:14
wlfwhiterabbithi! please i'd like to delete my files with only one command, without making them pass through the paper-basket. can you help me? thank!07:14
TheSheepwlfwhiterabbit: hold down shift when selecting 'delete'07:15
viddwlfwhiterabbit, if you are using thunar to find these files, hold the [shift]  key while you hit [delete] 07:15
TheSheepvidd: slowpoke ;)07:15
TheSheepvidd: you can try xdm instead07:16
vidd+so can you tell me how to modify that?07:16
viddor just apt-get remove gdm && apt-get install xgm?07:17
TheSheepxdm07:17
TheSheepyes07:17
viddtypo07:17
TheSheepbut it aint pretty07:17
TheSheepslim is pretty, but not in repos, I think07:17
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viddim not looking for slim...im looking for functional07:18
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TheSheepvidd: slim is a name07:18
viddoh07:18
=== vidd would rather just fix gdm
TheSheep!dpi07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
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TheSheepvidd: you can start by setting the physical monitor dimensions in your xorg.conf07:19
viddyou say  that like its something EVERYBODY should just know!07:20
TheSheepvidd: google for 'linux dpi' :)07:20
TheSheephttp://scanline.ca/dpi/07:21
TheSheepgimp hit 2.4.0rc107:21
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lphsthello08:16
lphstanybody alive?08:17
kekkyeah08:17
lphstgreat08:17
lphstI'm having a bit of a problem with a marvell yukon ethernet card08:18
lphstany experience from those?08:18
lphsti can't get any kind of connection from it.08:19
lphstgot the proper module up and ip set correctly and all08:20
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lphstapparently no.08:23
lphstfair enuff.08:23
kekkno experience, sorry08:26
lphstthat's cool08:27
lphstseems that there's few people who do after all08:27
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macogwhow do you edit the menu in xfce?  right click > edit menus doesnt give any options for any programs liek gnome does08:30
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kekkcan anybody help me get ssh working?08:40
kekkit seems it's only listening on ipv6 O.o08:41
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wlfwhiterabbithi! i'd like to know if under xububtu the key Stamp RSist works as under win, so that i can take a screenshot08:41
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macogwstamp rsist?08:50
macogwyou mean print screen?08:50
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slow-motionhallo09:13
SrRaventag09:18
lphstwie geht's09:20
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hyper_chhuhu10:15
hyper_chwas machen all die Deutschen hier drinnen?10:15
Ramlawichsen10:19
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slow-motionbye10:34
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sayersis there a way to get xubuntu to look like defualt XFCE?10:42
hyper_chsayers: sure there is10:51
kekkanybody with freenx experience?10:52
hyper_chkekk: had it once10:58
kekkthink you can help? I can't connect10:59
kekkI can ssh to the machine though10:59
kekk!paste10:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:59
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kekkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34564/11:00
kekkany ideas?11:02
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Sayershi11:24
SayersIs there a tutorial on making xfce look like xfce should?11:25
hyper_chSayers: theme it back to the way xfce looks ;)11:25
Sayerswhere is that :)11:25
hyper_chSayers: no clue, the only eye candy I done is adding a wallpaper changer11:26
Sayershehe11:26
Sayersill try11:26
Sayersinstalling atm11:26
Sayersso just for learning11:26
Sayerswow11:27
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Sayerssome nice nice themes11:27
Sayersbut still not the way it is intended11:27
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SayersI guess Ill have to do it the hard way11:30
Sayersoh well11:30
Sayersit's worth the hour of customization :)11:30
pAyESayers11:30
pAyESayers11:30
SayerspAyE: ?11:33
SayerspAyE: ?11:34
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SayersI wonder why my sound isnt working11:46
Sayershm it works in gxine11:47
Sayersbut not with pidgin11:47
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steven_I offically love xubuntu gutsy11:59
steven_wow11:59
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hyper_chsteven_: marry it12:00
steven_maybe I will12:00
hyper_ch:)12:00
TheSheepthen you'll have a lot of tiny little ubuntu forks12:04
TheSheepand spoons12:04
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Sayershow can I have my two HDD's not shown on the Desktop?12:52
TheSheepSayers: settings->desktop settings->second tab12:58
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SayersTheSheep: you have made my desktop better :D12:59
SayersI am so amazed01:01
Sayersat how awesome Xubuntu Testing is01:01
kekkhmm, TheSheep. I unticked trash but it still shows01:01
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TheSheepkekk: might require running 'xfdekstop --reload' or even killing it and running 'xfdesktop' again01:03
kekkokay, will try reloading it01:04
kekkstill there. meh01:04
TheSheepoff with its head!01:04
viddkekk, what is the issue?01:04
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kekkI don't want to display any icons on the desktop, except for one file01:05
kekkit's going to be a 'typewriter' for my grandparents01:05
kekkso I don't want anything to confuse them01:05
viddgive them a little credit01:06
cellofellowkekk: open the Desktop Settings, in Behavior uncheck all those checkboxes. Then uncheck and recheck that one checkbox at the top of the panel.01:06
kekkok, will do01:06
kekkthanks, that worked01:06
cellofellow:)01:06
cellofellowFiles in ~/Desktop will still show.01:07
kekkvidd, well, grandma can surf the net also :)01:07
kekkthat's great, thanks, cellofellow01:07
kekkI'm so awed by NX atm01:07
cellofellowglad to be of service.01:07
kekkit's great01:07

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