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| ScottK2 | Tonio_: Are you around? | 01:58 |
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| ScottK2 | Hobbsee: is there anyone in particular paying attention about dolphin for kde3? | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK2: Tonio_ i expect | 03:52 |
| ScottK2 | OK. I'll bug him next time I see him. | 03:52 |
| ScottK2 | The fish protocol (for ssh connections) is a deeply bad idea IMO (bug already filed). | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | what about it? | 03:53 |
| ScottK2 | To start, instead of just talking ssh to the other end, fish drops a little perl script on the far end and talks to that. | 03:57 |
| ScottK2 | To continue, it makes lots of parallel connections instead of one steady one. | 03:57 |
| ScottK2 | This particular issue makes fish not work across the iptables script I run on my servers. | 03:58 |
| ScottK2 | The parallelism makes it possible to fork bomb the remote server (I did this one before I knew what fish was). | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 03:59 |
| ScottK2 | At least for talking to Ubuntu servers (and many other modern servers) it's just not needed. Sftp works as soon as you install ssh-server. | 03:59 |
| ScottK2 | Fish had it's day and it's really passed. | 03:59 |
| ScottK2 | I'm sure whoever did Dolphin is a GUI/File Manager type person, not a network protocol person and probably didn't know. | 04:00 |
| === Tm_T always just says "sftp://" | ||
| === Hobbsee likes fish, at times | ||
| Tm_T | uh, and hi Hobbsee | 04:01 |
| ScottK2 | Tm_T: That's the thing to do, but I don't see how to do that with Dolphin. | 04:01 |
| === nosrednaekim likes fish too... but didn't know what it actually did | ||
| ScottK2 | In Konqueror, it's no problem. | 04:01 |
| Tm_T | ScottK2: what's that? | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | hi Tm_T | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | aaaa, now I remember, that GNOMEd Konqueror-clone | 04:02 |
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| ScottK2 | Something like that. | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | I meant, err, simplified? | 04:02 |
| === ScottK2 has only played with it a little bit. | ||
| ScottK2 | I knew what you meant. | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | haha | 04:02 |
| ScottK2 | So anyway... Fish has got to go, at least as the default and only choice. | 04:06 |
| ryanakca | wadda? hmm. isn't fish just plain old sftp? | 04:10 |
| ScottK2 | No. It's not. | 04:11 |
| ryanakca | hmm. | 04:11 |
| ScottK2 | Make a fish connection and then aftwards go look for a file called fish.pl on the distant end of the connection. | 04:11 |
| ryanakca | fish connection? I thought it ran over ssh. | 04:13 |
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| ScottK2 | It does. They both run over ssh, but do it different ways. | 04:13 |
| ryanakca | Ah | 04:14 |
| nixternal | howdy! | 04:14 |
| ScottK2 | Howdy. | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | hey nixternal | 04:15 |
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| nixternal | hiya | 04:15 |
| ryanakca | ummm... ermmm... Well... It was good when I thought of it. | 04:16 |
| nixternal | Riddell: rockin' getting that info on the tribe 5 page. I am moving it temporarily so I can apply the template I made and then copy over what you put in...groovy and thanks! | 04:17 |
| ScottK2 | ryanakca: Caught up on the evils of fish now? | 04:23 |
| ryanakca | kinda | 04:23 |
| ScottK2 | Bug #133957 could use confirmation. | 04:23 |
| ryanakca | What I've found is 'It permits (among other things) ftp-like browsing over nothing more sophisticated than a generic SSH transport. So, no more dodgy sftp protocol that works practically nowhere, anyway. FISH will work against any sshd, period. | 04:23 |
| ScottK2 | That's one theory. | 04:24 |
| ScottK2 | I've never tried to sftp to a server that didn't support it. | 04:24 |
| ScottK2 | I can't fish to my servers due to ssh rate limiting. | 04:24 |
| ScottK2 | I have accidentally fork-bombed a server with fish. | 04:24 |
| ScottK2 | And it installs and runs stuff on the remote server which I don't like either. | 04:25 |
| ryanakca | connecting to an sshd with fish installs stuff on the server? | 04:25 |
| ScottK2 | So IME all the goodness of fish is entirely theoretical and all the problems entirely real. | 04:25 |
| ryanakca | Hmm. don't most sshd's support sftp nowadays? | 04:26 |
| ScottK2 | Yes. | 04:27 |
| ryanakca | so, fish is basically obsolete. methinks | 04:27 |
| ScottK2 | That's my view. | 04:27 |
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| ScottK2 | Obsolete and technically inferior. | 04:27 |
| ScottK2 | Cool. | 04:27 |
| ScottK2 | Hobbsee: Did ktnef get promoted to main while I wasn't looking? | 04:28 |
| ScottK2 | Not that I mind, I really like it and it comes in handy all the time for me, but I was suprised to find I had libktnef1 installed on a default install. | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | uh, no | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | oh, wait, the lib did | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | i wonder if that was intentional | 04:29 |
| ryanakca | I can confirm the fish in dolphin by default | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | oh, hmmm. | 04:30 |
| === ScottK2 wonders if we can just sneak the rest of it in then.... | ||
| ryanakca | And it opens it in konqueror instead of fish? odd | 04:30 |
| ScottK2 | More Outlook compatilbility goodness. | 04:30 |
| ScottK2 | ryanakca: Exactly very odd. | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | ScottK2: shouldnt be hard, the source is already in main | 04:31 |
| ScottK2 | Yep. | 04:32 |
| ryanakca | Hmm. confirm and... would it be a security risk? installing things on a remote server, which could in turn be an ubuntu server? (goes on with an uneducated what-if game). If someone compromises the local fish .pl script that gets installed on the remote server, would that in turn compromise the remote server? | 04:32 |
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| ScottK2 | Well it just runs with user priviledges, so it's not an actual official security issue, but not something I'm particularly confortable with. | 04:33 |
| === ryanakca nods. So what priority? medium? | ||
| ScottK2 | ryanakca: I'm not sure. I'm torn between Medium, High, and Wishlist. I can see arguments for all three. | 04:34 |
| ryanakca | well, I would go high because it could cause a security type thing, and medium because it's not really that bad of an issue. hmm.. have you filed the 'open fish in konqueror' bug? | 04:36 |
| ScottK2 | No. That's not a bug. | 04:37 |
| ryanakca | Ah, dolphin doesn't have support built in? | 04:37 |
| ScottK2 | The issue is Dolphin only lets you set up SSH connection icons using fish. That's the bug. Given that, using it in Konqueror is unfortunate, but correct. | 04:37 |
| ryanakca | ok | 04:38 |
| ScottK2 | Konqueror is only doing what it's told. | 04:38 |
| ScottK2 | ryanakca: If you think High is not unreasonable, I'd say go ahead and set it. | 04:38 |
| ScottK2 | It's just a File Manager. | 04:38 |
| ScottK2 | That part actually makes sense given it's mission. | 04:39 |
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| ryanakca | I'll stick it to high. | 04:39 |
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| ryanakca | Hmm. Why did we downgrade kontact container from 1.2.5 to Kontact: 1.2.4 (enterprise 0.20070508.662491) | 05:04 |
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| Lure | hi all | 06:11 |
| Lure | kontact crashing for anybody else? | 06:12 |
| ScottK | Using Flash? | 06:18 |
| ryanakca | Lure: yeah, it has something to do with basket... see manchicken's bug | 06:42 |
| ScottK | Right. Misread Kontact for Konqueror. | 06:43 |
| Lure | ryanakca: ok, I thought it was just me | 06:43 |
| ScottK | Yeah, manchicken's bug. | 06:43 |
| ScottK | Mail on kubuntu-devel too. | 06:43 |
| ryanakca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/133857 | 06:43 |
| ryanakca | why did we downgrade kontact? | 06:44 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 09:43 |
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| neversfelde|mobi | Riddell, kwwii: the poster is here. Thank you. | 09:51 |
| neversfelde|mobi | I'm going to send it back after froscon | 09:51 |
| Riddell | neversfelde|mobi: the other stuff is being sent to danimo from KDE, I don't know if it'll arrive in time but there's most larger posters and t-shirts | 09:52 |
| neversfelde|mobi | Riddell: I think the KDE booth is right next to kubuntu, so we will see danimo in any case. | 09:56 |
| Riddell | neversfelde|mobi: there's a shared talk too as far as I can make out | 09:57 |
| Riddell | neversfelde|mobi: you're probably best to send it to canonical afterwards if nobody wants to take it | 09:57 |
| _StefanS_ | hi Tonio_ | 09:58 |
| neversfelde|mobi | ok, I will ask after froscon where to send it. | 09:58 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yo | 10:00 |
| _StefanS_ | this is kinda cool.. ibm has an internal ubuntu repository :O) | 10:01 |
| _StefanS_ | they even use knetworkmanager ;) | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: any news concerning kdebluetooth segfault ? | 10:02 |
| _StefanS_ | nopes | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: no way to nicelly strce this for me....$ | 10:02 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I will try to figure it out. | 10:03 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: fix that fade in the meantime :D - your damn macbook. | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: still want to work on the fade now ? | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: it won't go to gutsy btw -> feature freeze ;) | 10:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: well, just kidding you actually. | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hehe | 10:05 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: its your macbook's fault it didn't come in :D | 10:05 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: ah nevermind about it, I will look into that kdebluetooth thingy | 10:05 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: currently compiling it | 10:05 |
| _StefanS_ | (again) | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hehe | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: just build from svn, same issue here | 10:06 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: what issue? | 10:07 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: segfault? | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 10:07 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm.. well. kinda odd we dont get anymore information out of it. | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | at first I thought it was kcmshell that had a problem | 10:09 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: did you see that mail from Jucato? | 10:13 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: about kdmtheme in systemsettings | 10:14 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: am I in copy of it ? | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | didn't look at my mails today doing it now | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | sent it to you now. | 10:15 |
| _StefanS_ | I might be able to look into that aswell | 10:15 |
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| Tonio_ | oki | 10:17 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: kdmtheme is not in gutsy though.. | 10:18 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: atleast not visible | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I can see that and I remember the bug | 10:19 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: having a look now | 10:19 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: oh ok. | 10:19 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yeah I remember that kdmtheme issue | 10:25 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: to mke it simple : install kdmtheme, search for it in systemsettings, no admin mode | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | works in kcontrol | 10:26 |
| Tonio_ | I never have been able to figure out why | 10:26 |
| _StefanS_ | ah yep, I see the problem | 10:26 |
| _StefanS_ | will look at after kdebluetooth | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I'm looking to it now too | 10:28 |
| _StefanS_ | ok | 10:30 |
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| _StefanS_ | . | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: concerning kdmtheme, I really think the problem is within the lib included | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that's not a .desktop issue btw | 10:50 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: within what lib? | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | X-KDE-Library=kdmtheme | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | this one | 10:51 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: how does e.g. Monitor & Display handle the Administrator thing? | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: looking | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I use the fontinst thing as it is c++ | 10:53 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: good, lets just grab that for kdmtheme | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 10:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hi | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hey ;) | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: wanted to ask you what to do for obexftp mir ? | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: there is not much that can be done now.... | 11:14 |
| Riddell | did you get an answer from upstream? | 11:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: adding X-KDE-RootOnly=true in /usr/share/applications/kde/kdmtheme.desktop, and starting it with kcmshell manually works. | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: of course it'll work | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: but not in ystemsettings | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | that's the problem | 11:16 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yes.. | 11:16 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I know :) | 11:16 |
| Tonio_ | and I don't see any reason why | 11:17 |
| _StefanS_ | wierd since it should get those info when the desktop was loaded. I will place some debug | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I can't see much a difference comparing kdmtheme to the printer kcm for example | 11:19 |
| _StefanS_ | nope very odd. | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the point is as is it coded to work in kcontrol, and it does, we can't really suspect a kdmtheme bug | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | btw, as it is the only kcm failing in kss, we can suspect the bug is in there | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | that's the problem : where is the bug ? | 11:20 |
| _StefanS_ | bluetooth fails also | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | in systemsettings or kdmtheme | 11:20 |
| _StefanS_ | kcm_btpaired | 11:20 |
| _StefanS_ | gotta look into that as well | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yeah it segfaults | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I suspect the same issue that with btpaired, as they started to fail the same day | 11:21 |
| _StefanS_ | probably | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: maybe fixing the first will fix the second | 11:21 |
| _StefanS_ | I guess something systemsettings are not following kcontrol, thats for sure | 11:21 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: well done on getting obexftp approved, does anything else need compiling for it except kdebluetooth? | 12:05 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: no it should build now | 12:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we just have to wait | 12:07 |
| Riddell | would be nice to get it into tribe | 12:08 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: think i've found it for kdmtheme. | 12:21 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ah ? | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: shouldn't it be build automatically today ? | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yep the root check simply doesn't work for for | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | if (d->currentModule->moduleInfo().needsRootPrivileges() && | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | !d->currentModule->rootMode() ) | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | argh sorry | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: kcmultiwidget.cpp linje 398 | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | linje/line | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: looking | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: the else catches the check. | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: so i'm looking into needsRootPrivileges | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well it should work partially, as you are prompted that admin root are needed btw | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | just that you don't have the button | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: btw how can that work on kcontrol then ? | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: Is it the same code? | 12:21 |
| _StefanS_ | (havent checked) | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | dopn't know | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: you're looking into the systemsettings code right ? | 12:22 |
| _StefanS_ | yep | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | ah oki | 12:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, just depends on how quick soyuz is to notice that it can build | 12:22 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hmm wait thats not where it checks for it. | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay so lett's wait a bit :) | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: :( | 12:24 |
| Riddell | nixternal: kvkbd in main | 12:25 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: closer now ;) | 12:28 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: line 318 is actually where it registers capabilities for the modules.l | 12:29 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: kdmtheme doesnt get added with cm.adminmode=true. | 12:29 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: found it ;) | 12:31 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: interesting :) | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: btw how does that work with kcontrol then ? | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | strange isn't it ? | 12:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: " !d->hasRootKCM" must be removed from the if statement | 12:32 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: well we have to check what is used to determing adminmode with in kcontrol | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: better fix systemsettings then ? | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: isn't that easier to just patch kdmtheme as it is the only known kcm that causes problems ? | 12:34 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I'm comparing the adminmode thingy in kcontrol in a moment | 12:34 |
| Tonio_ | k | 12:35 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: font installer still works with admin stuff btw. | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | yrah I noticed that | 12:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: uhm actually kcontrol just uses a needsRootPrivileges check and, uid != 0. | 12:38 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: donno why systemsettings do all those extra things. | 12:39 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I suggest we just change that if statement. | 12:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any opiniion ? | 12:43 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I would agree it is simpler to let systemsettings checking the same way kcontrol does | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that makes sense | 12:44 |
| _StefanS_ | yes, and since it seems like it wont break existing modules, its ok I think. | 12:44 |
| _StefanS_ | I'm tracing that kcm_btpaired thingy. | 12:44 |
| _StefanS_ | actually it look like dbus stuff... | 12:44 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: don't wanna make the patch for systemsettings first ? so that we can commit svn and upload ;) | 12:45 |
| _StefanS_ | oh well, I thought you just had it ready :) | 12:45 |
| _StefanS_ | lemme fix. | 12:45 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I didn't no, as I understood your point, but writting this would take me a lot of time | 12:47 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: is that just a matter of fixing the "if" test ? | 12:47 |
| _StefanS_ | yep, debdiff coming your way soon. | 12:47 |
| _StefanS_ | yes. | 12:47 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: seems sensible | 12:49 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: debdiff heading your way.... | 12:50 |
| Tonio_ | super | 12:51 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hmm seems like we still have an issue with the input.service in kdebluetooth. | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum..... | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: strange as it ised to work afaicr | 01:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: guess something might still be missing. I will investigate more. | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: go to eat, brb | 01:04 |
| _StefanS_ | oka | 01:04 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: fix for kdebluetooth in your mail ;) | 01:15 |
| \sh | Riddell, just saw it now while updating..why are kdepackages postfixed with ~feisty1? | 01:20 |
| \sh | Riddell, (speaking of gutsy packages) | 01:20 |
| Riddell | they shouldn't be | 01:23 |
| Riddell | which package? | 01:23 |
| \sh | konqueror: 4:3.5.7-0ubuntu1~feisty1 | 01:23 |
| \sh | as an example | 01:23 |
| \sh | I'll check after dist-upgrade the logfiles for more | 01:24 |
| \sh | oh sorry | 01:24 |
| \sh | my fault... | 01:24 |
| \sh | replacing ~feisty1 with .../bla | 01:25 |
| \sh | oh god I really need new glasses | 01:25 |
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| \sh | Riddell, karm : trying to overwrite kaddressbookplugin.desktop which is also in package kontact ;) | 01:33 |
| aplg|nb | Oo | 01:39 |
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| aplg|nb | wtf does karm ship kaddressbookplugin? | 01:39 |
| Riddell | no idea | 01:40 |
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| \sh | aplg|nb, there were more messages like this...and stragewise ooofice just failed but looks like after apt-get -f install it works better *strange* | 01:43 |
| aplg|nb | so kdepim is br0ken and ooo always was :/ | 01:44 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well done for kdebluetooth | 01:54 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: how on earth did you find that issue ? :) | 01:54 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: thank you, thank you very much (elvis style). | 01:55 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: how did you find that one ? | 01:55 |
| _StefanS_ | well, I just figured that the dbus path for bluez should be similar across the line. and IsTrusted() was the only thing happening there. | 01:55 |
| _StefanS_ | I just thought that the lookup failed, and checked the other org.bluez.input.<module> paths. | 01:56 |
| _StefanS_ | and right so, the "input" wasn't inside the on the one that failed. | 01:56 |
| Tonio_ | neet :) | 01:57 |
| _StefanS_ | well, yea. Lucky punch I guess. | 01:58 |
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| nixternal | Riddell: wow, kvkbd into main was easy :) | 02:03 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: any thing else causing problems? | 02:03 |
| Riddell | nixternal: apart from being blocked? | 02:03 |
| nixternal | sure | 02:04 |
| nixternal | haha | 02:04 |
| nixternal | the block was an easy hurdle | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: not to what I know for now :) | 02:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: goody. | 02:04 |
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| nosrednaekim | Riddell: are you around? | 02:15 |
| Riddell | yes | 02:15 |
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| nosrednaekim | Riddell: you offered to mentor someone porting ltsp-kde-tools to Qt4. | 02:16 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: I'd like to try :) | 02:16 |
| Riddell | any paticular tool in mind? there's ldm (c++) and the ltsp manager thing (python) | 02:16 |
| Riddell | and the ltsp config thing | 02:17 |
| Riddell | also python | 02:17 |
| nosrednaekim | All the python portions. I don't know c++. | 02:17 |
| Riddell | you may actually be best talking to ogra in the first instance, he would know what the current state of the ltsp manager is | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you have upload rights on the all kde svn right ? | 02:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: we might need to get our kdebluetooth patches uploaded | 02:19 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: thin-client-manager it's called | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would you do it or should I ping gollub for this ? | 02:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I thought kdebluetooth was quite active? | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: some modules are | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: some are broken for ages, and we have fixes for this | 02:20 |
| Riddell | gollub is upstream? | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | there is no real upstream, but he is quite active on it | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | several people are | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | I may ping them with the patche | 02:21 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: ok thanks! So should I send Ogra an email? | 02:21 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: yeah, good idea | 02:21 |
| Riddell | ask if there's much development working happening on it of it it's a good time to do a port | 02:21 |
| Riddell | it should be a good time since we're in bug fixing mode only | 02:21 |
| Riddell | also if there's someone who has been working on it who should be contacted | 02:22 |
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| manchicken | Tonio_: What's goin' on man? | 02:34 |
| nixternal | mornin' manchicken | 02:35 |
| manchicken | Howdy nixternal :) | 02:35 |
| jjesse__ | mornin | 02:36 |
| jjesse__ | !nixternal | 02:36 |
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| manchicken | I was trying to set up networking in qemu last night on my machine and I think it might have broken something. | 02:36 |
| nixternal | ooh, that silly bot must be broke :) | 02:37 |
| jjesse | grin | 02:37 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah... stupid bot is broken. | 02:37 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: ogra says that the code is a mess but a frontend shouldn't affect that. He says to wait until the next upload though because some integral part of it is broken ATM. | 02:38 |
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| Riddell | nosrednaekim: ok, I guess the thing to do would be to see fi you can set yourself up with a thin client setup | 02:40 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: like a thin client backend an a frontend? | 02:40 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: yes | 02:41 |
| Riddell | do you have hardware that can do that? | 02:41 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: Ok, will do. That should be an adventure in and of itself :) | 02:42 |
| Riddell | there's howto's on help.ubuntu.com | 02:42 |
| Riddell | ogra can proably point you at the best one | 02:43 |
| nosrednaekim | ok. | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | hey manchicken ;) | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: bah working on packages to fix bugs :) | 02:44 |
| manchicken | Took you long enough :) | 02:44 |
| manchicken | eh | 02:44 |
| manchicken | heh | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | kdebluetooth mostly fixed, waiting for thursday to upload | 02:44 |
| manchicken | Cool. | 02:44 |
| manchicken | I'll be testing it once my new machine shows up :) | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | hehe great ;) | 02:45 |
| manchicken | I've already decided that this big 17" monster is going to go back to edgy, and that my wife will be getting it. | 02:45 |
| manchicken | I got one of those 12" System76 machines on the way. | 02:45 |
| nosrednaekim | :) | 02:45 |
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| manchicken | System76 folks seem very happy to answer all of my stupid questions. Dell always transferred me to someone that barely spoke English. | 02:47 |
| nixternal | did you get it yet? | 02:53 |
| nixternal | err, nm | 02:53 |
| nixternal | "on the way" | 02:53 |
| manchicken | Yeah | 02:53 |
| manchicken | On the way | 02:54 |
| manchicken | The guy says their normal process is 8-10 days from order to delivery. | 02:54 |
| nixternal | it will be hard for me to move away from Compaq, but maybe next year I will be up for a new laptop and might go s76 | 02:54 |
| manchicken | So Tuesday would be the latest it should arrive. | 02:54 |
| manchicken | Well I'll be staying away from Dell after the experience I've had. | 02:54 |
| nixternal | heh, mom is having Dell issues...this is the 4th time her dell PSU has died...and the computer is around a year and a half old...so she told dell to stick their warranty, remove her from anything they have, and went and bought a psu as tiger direct yesterday :) | 02:55 |
| manchicken | Nice. | 02:56 |
| ScottK | For desktops I've been rolling my own for a long time now. For ~the same money you can get components with actual quality in them. | 02:56 |
| nixternal | I almost got my dad to switch after showing him that the dosbox emulator will run one of his special apps | 02:56 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: ok, thanks again. I'll set up a LTSP server and then get back to you. | 02:56 |
| nixternal | I have always rolled my own | 02:56 |
| manchicken | Yes, rolling your own desktop makes sense. | 02:56 |
| nosrednaekim | ScottK: yeah... far cheaper.. but unfortunately you can't do that for laptops. | 02:57 |
| manchicken | But getting a S76 Koala just looks so much cooler. | 02:57 |
| nixternal | to bad you couldn't roll your own laptop for a decent price | 02:57 |
| manchicken | If | 02:57 |
| ScottK | Yes. That's why I said desktops. | 02:57 |
| manchicken | If I buy another desktop I'll be getting a Koala, if they still have those. | 02:57 |
| nixternal | you can roll your own laptop...asus I know sells barebone laptops...well that really isn't rolling your own I guess | 02:57 |
| nosrednaekim | and that always turns out to be more expensive. | 02:58 |
| nixternal | manchicken: the koala's are nice | 02:58 |
| nixternal | that is the mac mini looking one right? | 02:58 |
| manchicken | Yes, they are cute little beasts. | 02:58 |
| manchicken | Yeah. | 02:58 |
| manchicken | they only have 1GB RAM available though. | 02:58 |
| nixternal | don't need more than 1gb I would hope | 02:58 |
| manchicken | I NEED 10GB! | 02:58 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:58 |
| manchicken | Why? I don't know. JUST GIMME! | 02:58 |
| manchicken | This lappy I'm buying has 2GB. | 02:59 |
| manchicken | And a dual-core 1.85GHz proc. | 02:59 |
| manchicken | I'll be teaching myself python on my trips back and forth to Chicago. | 02:59 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:59 |
| nixternal | that should only be a couple of trips...so far the hardest thing I am having with python is to get it to start up my gui | 03:00 |
| jjesse | i got 4 gigs for my laptop for work and dell limits it hardware wise somehow to only 3.25 ( | 03:00 |
| manchicken | I'm going to have a hard time with the scoping, I just know it. | 03:00 |
| nixternal | ouch | 03:00 |
| nixternal | man, back to class today...and I did all early classes this semester | 03:01 |
| ryanakca | wow | 03:01 |
| nixternal | c++/stl, english comp, and adv. javascript/html/css just today | 03:02 |
| ryanakca | two weeks left for me... and I could live with another month | 03:02 |
| nixternal | ya, me too | 03:02 |
| manchicken | They have classes on that? | 03:02 |
| manchicken | js/html/css | 03:02 |
| nixternal | I guess | 03:02 |
| ryanakca | english comp? | 03:02 |
| nixternal | I needed 2 more credits to hit my 12 credit hours and that one was open, so I took it | 03:02 |
| nixternal | ryanakca: writing class | 03:02 |
| nixternal | to make me a better writer, and a requirement if I ever decide to finish this degree | 03:03 |
| manchicken | heh | 03:03 |
| manchicken | Sounds like me in college. | 03:03 |
| manchicken | I got a B in database theory because the teacher didn't like me correcting her, and because I did my final project in postgres rather than access. | 03:03 |
| nixternal | I really wanted to take another philosophy class, but the professor I really enjoy wasn't teaching any of the honors courses this semester, so I bailed out | 03:03 |
| nixternal | I just found out the teacher in my adv java class is a stickler for code formatting....I hope she tries to tell me to format it the way she does | 03:04 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: ah | 03:05 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: want the systemsettings patch to commit svn ? package is ready on my own | 04:46 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hey.. the patch in kde-systemsettings didn't go in. | 04:47 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: still no change in kcmultiwidget.cpp, line 318. | 04:47 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: FYI | 04:47 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: could do, although system settings for kde 3 isn't really developed any more since we have a kde 4 version | 04:49 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay so let's just go with a patch to the tarball, no need to waste time on that | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I knew concerning kss kde4? just I didn't knew if that meant no dev on the kde3 version :) | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I didn't upload at the moment | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that's a minor fix and we're frozen | 04:51 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I'll keep the package and will upload on thurdsay | 04:52 |
| _StefanS_ | oh ok | 04:52 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: same for kdebluetooth package | 04:52 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: oka.. found a bug in adept btw. A segfault | 04:52 |
| Riddell | why thursday? | 04:52 |
| Tonio_ | isn't tribe5 supposed to come out on thursday ? | 04:52 |
| Riddell | that's no reason to delay an upload | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: "We have frozen the archive for Tribe 5, scheduled for Thursday" | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | hum oki, just that I usually do this | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no problem having the package in the queue then ? | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | let's go with upload :) | 04:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: btw for kdebluetooth we need a uvf exception.... | 04:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: unless you can aprove directly, I don't know | 04:54 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I already said I could probably give a general exception if it's for updating the beta to something newer without new features | 04:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I know, but does that mean I have to write the initial request so that you can "officialize" this ? | 04:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, I just uploaded kdebluetooth, you know what to do :) | 04:57 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, just you have to tell me if that's what you would be updating | 04:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: great, so kdebluetooth-1.0~beta6~r702320 was uploaded, that's it :) | 04:58 |
| Tonio_ | just bugfixes btw | 04:58 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_, Riddell: I'm trying to figure out that segfault for adept, its related to commiting the package updates from repositories that are not reachable on the network. I discovered it while being of the corporate lan. | 04:58 |
| _StefanS_ | of/off | 04:59 |
| Riddell | wibble | 04:59 |
| _StefanS_ | what? :D | 05:00 |
| _StefanS_ | wobble wibble wable.. must some english I dont understand | 05:00 |
| Riddell | adept shouldn't crash, that's one thing its very good at | 05:01 |
| _StefanS_ | I agree. | 05:01 |
| _StefanS_ | not really that perfect. But I didnt do anything bad to it, I think it just does a piss-poor job of handling errors :) | 05:01 |
| _StefanS_ | uhm got a crash log now. I will check it later. | 05:05 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: did that fix for doing dpkg-reconfigure -a go into adept? | 05:08 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: for when it didn't finish the last time. | 05:08 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: yes, should be one of manchicken's patches | 05:10 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: uhm ok good. | 05:10 |
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| manchicken | Looks like there may be a fix to Basket that stops this crashing :) | 05:32 |
| manchicken | Is anybody working on updating our package? | 05:32 |
| Riddell | not that I know of | 05:38 |
| ryanakca | manchicken: where's the fix? | 05:40 |
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| ScottK | Riddell: Since it looks like you are reviewing on REVU, I'd like to commend the work of mok@bioxray.dk to you. He's new to Ubuntu/Debian packaging, but a long time very knowlegeable KDE oriented person. | 05:43 |
| ScottK | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=22 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=36 | 05:43 |
| ScottK | With some encouragement and just a little experience I think he could be a good KDE oriented MOTU asset. | 05:44 |
| manchicken | If you look on bug #133857 there's a mention of a commit in svn for baskets that fixes the problem. | 05:44 |
| ryanakca | manchicken: ok | 05:46 |
| ryanakca | hmm. | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | oh did someone take ownership of basket again? | 05:47 |
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| ryanakca | I thought it had been abandoned | 05:48 |
| manchicken | I love that program. | 05:49 |
| manchicken | I will *DIE* without baskets. | 05:50 |
| manchicken | If only there were a viable scripting interface... | 05:50 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: advocated 22 | 06:01 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 06:01 |
| Riddell | 36 seems to be waiting a response | 06:02 |
| ScottK | 36 looks good. I'm just building it now. | 06:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Do you want those comments on 22 cleaned up before I upload it for him? | 06:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: may as well | 06:03 |
| Riddell | that package uses templates to an evil extent | 06:04 |
| Riddell | typical end of line "...ctionary<int>, BTK::IO::Dictionary<int> > > > > > > > > > > > >] " | 06:04 |
| Riddell | even adept doesn't use them that much | 06:05 |
| ScottK | OK. | 06:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I advocated 36. | 06:12 |
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| Riddell | hi meduxa | 06:18 |
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| Riddell | do you know how to get from north tenerief airport to costa adeje at 23:00? | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | walk. | 06:20 |
| meduxa | hi | 06:20 |
| meduxa | jur | 06:20 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: it's 40km away and we'll have luggage! | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: and? | 06:20 |
| meduxa | no no, it is 90 Km away | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: be a good bit of exercise. :P | 06:21 |
| Riddell | see, way too far | 06:21 |
| meduxa | don't worry | 06:21 |
| meduxa | I'll take you there | 06:21 |
| Riddell | you will? | 06:21 |
| meduxa | if the organization cannot do it | 06:21 |
| Riddell | won't you be on gran canaria? | 06:21 |
| Riddell | this is a week before the conference | 06:21 |
| meduxa | I'll ask them them before you care comming | 06:22 |
| meduxa | I live in Tenerife | 06:22 |
| meduxa | R. dale lives in Gran Canaria | 06:22 |
| Riddell | oh, my mistake | 06:22 |
| meduxa | if it is one week before the conf. I'll take you there | 06:23 |
| meduxa | are you renting a car finally? | 06:23 |
| Riddell | we're unsure | 06:24 |
| meduxa | which hotel are staying in | 06:24 |
| meduxa | ? | 06:24 |
| Riddell | would be another expense, and I'm a bad enough driver when I'm on the correct side of the road | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | meduxa: that requires someone being able to drive it | 06:24 |
| meduxa | jejeje | 06:24 |
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| Riddell | esmeralda playa hotel | 06:24 |
| meduxa | which day? | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | meduxa: he'll drown before he drives far enough to try and run me over. yay! | 06:25 |
| meduxa | jejejejejeje | 06:25 |
| Riddell | saturday september 8th | 06:25 |
| meduxa | as I said, I'll take you there, don't worry | 06:26 |
| meduxa | and I'll take you to visit the north part of the island wednesday or thursday | 06:27 |
| Riddell | ok, great | 06:27 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: you've never seen my driving! | 06:28 |
| meduxa | I can for sure | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i think i'm glad for that, by the sounds of it. | 06:28 |
| meduxa | Riddell do not drive on the right side of the road | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | yes, drive on the left, like all good people. | 06:28 |
| Riddell | meduxa: can people climb the big hill/mountain/volcano in the middle of tenerife? | 06:29 |
| meduxa | Teide....yes of course | 06:29 |
| meduxa | nice ride | 06:29 |
| Riddell | ride? | 06:30 |
| meduxa | 3718 m | 06:30 |
| meduxa | well you get to 2200 by car | 06:30 |
| Riddell | right | 06:30 |
| meduxa | and then take a "telesferico" (don't know how you say that in english | 06:30 |
| Riddell | ski lift? | 06:32 |
| meduxa | until 3400 - 3500 aprox | 06:32 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:32 |
| meduxa | and an hour walk until the end | 06:32 |
| meduxa | yes sky lift | 06:32 |
| meduxa | until the top | 06:32 |
| meduxa | take a Kubuntu flag and you'll take a great picture with the lunar view you have there (volcanic rocks and black sand all over) | 06:34 |
| meduxa | Kubuntu riches the moon | 06:34 |
| meduxa | nice for the web page | 06:34 |
| ryanakca | haha | 06:34 |
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| Riddell | good plan :) | 06:35 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: /msg sealne | 06:37 |
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| ryanakca | Riddell okies | 06:40 |
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| Daskreech2 | Anyone saw Troy's request? | 06:54 |
| Riddell | yes | 06:54 |
| Daskreech2 | Anythoughts about implementing it? | 06:58 |
| jjesse | which request wqas that? | 06:58 |
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| DaSkreech | Regarding Kubuntu removing Konqueror Menus | 07:02 |
| DaSkreech | he was requesting a saner way of doing it and having it pushed upstream | 07:02 |
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| Riddell | DaSkreech: we already do it the most sane way, if there's no need for an option it shouldn't be there | 07:31 |
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| DaSkreech | Yeah I was trying to rationlize where the option would go | 07:31 |
| Lucasg4 | hello | 07:31 |
| Lucasg4 | Algum do Brasil? | 07:32 |
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| DaSkreech | !br | 07:32 |
| Riddell | !pt | 07:32 |
| Riddell | bah, no bot | 07:32 |
| ubotu | Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado. | 07:32 |
| === DaSkreech wins :) | ||
| Riddell | oh, groovy | 07:32 |
| Lucasg4 | aff.. | 07:32 |
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| === Riddell notices Czessi, aplg|nb and Nightrose on http://wiki.froscon.de/wiki/KDE_room | ||
| Nightrose | ;-) jep | 07:41 |
| === Nightrose is working on the slides | ||
| === aplg|nb is working on the amarok template :P | ||
| Nightrose | aplg|nb: #12 was good | 07:42 |
| Nightrose | use that one? | 07:42 |
| Riddell | CDs are up for testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20070822.1/ | 07:46 |
| aplg|nb | Nightrose: markey doesn't like the fade, I don't either | 07:46 |
| Nightrose | hmm k ;-) | 07:46 |
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| Riddell | Live CDs too http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20070822.1/ | 08:05 |
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| Riddell | ah, jjesse, just in time to test some CDs | 08:05 |
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| Lure | Riddell: is kdebluetooth upgrade issue known? | 08:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34686/ | 08:10 |
| Riddell | Lure: nope, blame Tonio_ | 08:12 |
| Riddell | and upload a fix if you can | 08:13 |
| Lure | Riddell: apt-get install -f seems to fix it, so I do not know if we should be concerned | 08:13 |
| Lure | Riddell: and I am on business trip in US, so no time for any real work | 08:13 |
| Lure | Riddell: btw, kontact still crashes here on Summary page | 08:23 |
| Lure | Riddell: and I have basket installed (so it might be the same problem as manchicken's) | 08:24 |
| Lure | Riddell: no, it still crashes if I remove basket :-( | 08:24 |
| Riddell | it still should be fixed, poke Tonio_ | 08:25 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, will ping him if I see him online | 08:26 |
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| allee | Lure: I doubt that libkbuetooth from 0.99 is API compatible with 1.0-* ;) So we should kick upstream not Tonio_ :) | 08:44 |
| Lure | allee: it was just packaing complaint, did not test it yet | 08:47 |
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| seele | Riddell: ping | 08:48 |
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| nixternal | howdy | 08:48 |
| Riddell | hi seele | 08:48 |
| seele | heya | 08:48 |
| seele | so i have some non-American english questions | 08:49 |
| seele | what is the difference between a git and a prat, and is there an american equivalent? | 08:49 |
| Riddell | hmm, truly a deep question | 08:49 |
| seele | lol | 08:49 |
| jjesse | Riddell: sure can tribe5 or whatever? | 08:49 |
| Riddell | a git would me more deliberatly malitious, while a prat would just be annoyingly silly | 08:49 |
| seele | so an ass and an idiot? | 08:50 |
| nixternal | I guess I am a prat then :) | 08:50 |
| Riddell | seele: that would match indeed | 08:50 |
| Riddell | jjesse: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20070822.1/ (or daily) | 08:51 |
| seele | Riddell: ok.. one final question.. what does "wotcher" mean? is it some kind of greeting? | 08:52 |
| seele | (you'd think i'm learning a foreign language here) | 08:52 |
| Riddell | seele: yes, it's a south of England informal greeting, popular in East Enders for example | 08:52 |
| seele | on top of the accent, sometimes i think the germans are easier to understand ;) | 08:53 |
| ScottK | seele: You are. :-) | 08:53 |
| Riddell | probably comes from "what's up" | 08:53 |
| jjesse | Riddell: downlinad right now | 08:53 |
| seele | hum | 08:53 |
| seele | ok thanks.. i hope i wasn't distrubing anything too important for that ;) | 08:54 |
| ScottK | Open Office works now. | 08:54 |
| Riddell | and of course the correct term for "non-American english" is British English (or International, or Commonwealth) | 08:55 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yay | 08:55 |
| seele | British English.. i always thing of redcoats when i see that, hah | 08:55 |
| seele | never heard of it called commonwealth before tho | 08:56 |
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| Riddell | it's not very common | 09:00 |
| manchicken | Riddell: What about wrong English? That's what we call it here :P | 09:09 |
| manchicken | "It's spelled COLOR" | 09:09 |
| === manchicken trolls a bit. | ||
| Riddell | color isn't remotely phoenetic | 09:10 |
| manchicken | Sure it is.. | 09:11 |
| manchicken | "col-or" | 09:11 |
| === ryanakca wonders at the differences between Canadian English and British English | ||
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| manchicken | ryanakca: Does it matter? They're both wrong :P | 09:12 |
| manchicken | ryanakca: I think they stick a lot more French into their English since they're officially bilingual. | 09:12 |
| jjesse_ | stupdi wireless :( | 09:12 |
| manchicken | (the Canadians that is) | 09:12 |
| seele | Frenglish? | 09:13 |
| manchicken | seele: Canadian :) | 09:13 |
| seele | hehe | 09:13 |
| ryanakca | nono... Franglais ... | 09:14 |
| ryanakca | (french + english) | 09:14 |
| seele | is French still considered the language of diplomacy? | 09:14 |
| Riddell | together with english (you probably have both on your passport) | 09:15 |
| Riddell | nixternal: fancy writing a story on the fridge pointing at the kubuntu parts of http://dot.kde.org/1187809926/ ? | 09:16 |
| manchicken | seele: That's just what the French want you to believe. It's part of their massive plan to conquer the world. | 09:16 |
| Riddell | I seem to have had my privilages removed | 09:16 |
| Riddell | jings, an American suggesting the French want to conquer the world.. | 09:17 |
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| ScottK | Both seem to do fairly well at getting armies bogged down in distant lands to little apparent purpose. | 09:18 |
| seele | manchicken: too bad Napolean thought it was a good idea to invade Russion in the middle of winter | 09:18 |
| Riddell | awooga, it booted | 09:19 |
| manchicken | seele: Yeah, but they've learned since then. Now they just clothe themselves in Germans before invading. | 09:19 |
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| Riddell | huh? | 09:20 |
| nixternal | Riddell: sure | 09:20 |
| Riddell | manchicken: what's that a reference to? | 09:21 |
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| manchicken | Riddell: Does it really need to make sense? I'd really prefer it if it didn't. | 09:22 |
| Riddell | "No bluetooth adaptor found" Tonio_ poke poke I don't want to see that on startup | 09:22 |
| nixternal | I just got that error message | 09:22 |
| Riddell | hmm, restricted drivers still starts up | 09:23 |
| kwwii | everyone knows that the mastermind behind all these "conquer the world" strategies is Scotland ;-) | 09:23 |
| nixternal | I thought the new OO.o was fixed | 09:23 |
| Riddell | oh wait, it's ment to start up :) | 09:24 |
| Riddell | kwwii: yes, we did such a great job colonising Panama | 09:24 |
| ScottK | nixternal: It's fixed here. | 09:26 |
| Riddell | OO works here, although the Copy toolbar icon is funky | 09:31 |
| kwwii | Riddell: I always wondered why they named Nova Scotia such - was it the queens attempt at sucking up to | 09:32 |
| kwwii | ...Scotland | 09:32 |
| kwwii | ? | 09:32 |
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| nixternal | ScottK: I was just being a prat :D | 09:35 |
| === ScottK should have guessed. | ||
| nixternal | it works here to, and now my volume control works again, however it is very silent | 09:35 |
| ScottK | I did have to uninstall kdebluetooth to get the latest round of upgrades to complete. | 09:36 |
| nixternal | I think Tonio_ has hooked up with a bluetooth vendor, because now when I log in, my computer says it can't find a blue tooth adapter and that I should run to my local computer store and purchase one :) | 09:36 |
| ScottK | No bluetooth no the box, so it doesn't hurt any. | 09:36 |
| nixternal | I just did an apt-get -f install to get the kdebluetooth to install | 09:36 |
| ScottK | I just removed it. | 09:36 |
| nixternal | I was going to go buy a cheapy usb bluetooth adapter, but I don't have anything to communicate with | 09:37 |
| nixternal | Riddell: posted! | 09:37 |
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| nixternal | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe5/Kubuntu | 09:40 |
| nixternal | anyone have info to add in the blanks, put something there so I know what to write about later :) | 09:40 |
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| manchicken | http://www.fayerwayer.com/up/2007/04/bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg | 10:05 |
| === nosrednaekim looks, is intrigued by title | ||
| nosrednaekim | oh..i've seen that :) | 10:07 |
| manchicken | That's nice, eh? | 10:08 |
| nosrednaekim | yep.. | 10:10 |
| nosrednaekim | ever seen the one with Tux and the juice box saying "windows sucks best"? | 10:10 |
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| nixternal | the best one is tux with a fly swatter going after the butterfly | 10:13 |
| nosrednaekim | haha | 10:14 |
| nixternal | I always make that my wallpaper when I have to use a MS machine at school | 10:15 |
| nosrednaekim | the one with tux and the bazooka with the smoked MS image on the hill is good too. | 10:16 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 10:16 |
| Riddell | desktop CD seems to be broken, I'll make new ones in a few hours | 10:18 |
| nixternal | roger | 10:19 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: yo | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: absolytlu no change concerning the "no adapters found" | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | when did that change ? | 11:13 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Did you see the kubuntu-devel discussion about klamav from when you were gone? | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | not yet, I'm just back to the computer | 11:14 |
| ScottK | OK. | 11:16 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Bottom line is that the locally compiled clamav didn't turn out to play as nicely with the packaged one as I thought, so I uploaded it with your patch intact. | 11:17 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK: oki, great :-) | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | allee, Lure, Riddell: package is merged with debian, I didn't change anything to the splitting process, so there is the issue...... and the issue is annoying, I agree | 11:19 |
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| ryanakca | hmm. javascript error from akregator (web page links from blogs/feeds opened in a tab): | 11:26 |
| ryanakca | Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'javascript'. | 11:26 |
| ryanakca | Happens with kde-apps 'close preview screenshot of app' type tab, and with the zoom on the items in ubutu/canonical store... | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal, Riddell: concerning the 'no bluetooth adapter found', as all my machines have embedded bluetooth, I missed that one :) | 11:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll patch that toonight and will had a conflict between libkbluetooth and kdebluetooth < binary-version | 11:33 |
| Tonio_ | that should fix the upgrade issue | 11:33 |
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| carbonfreeze | anyone having an issue passing vga= options to tribe4+ kernel? After doing dist-upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10, newer kernel just shows blank screen upon boot instead of verbose output. I have to remove vga= options to get a 640x480 fb. | 12:28 |
| Riddell | #ubuntu-kernel might know more | 12:28 |
| carbonfreeze | Riddell: thanks | 12:29 |
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