=== beuno [n=beuno@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-072-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Sa|vador [i=mp3zone@pc-20-236-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #launchpad === Sa|vador [i=mp3zone@pc-20-236-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #launchpad ["] === zul_ [n=chuck@mail.edgewater.ca] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@82-133-115-120.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-182.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [03:00] Goooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! === jml_ is now known as jml === oojah_ [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === helix84 [n=a@adsl-dyn173.91-127-104.t-com.sk] has left #launchpad [] === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-177-23.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #launchpad [04:21] cprov-afk: it might not be the 'Priority: optional' bit causing problems anymore but people that have just now added my repo still get the constant upgrade offer for compiz-core === bac_afk [n=bac@r74-193-51-98.gldwcmta01.glwttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #launchpad === bac is now known as bac_afk === bac_afk is now known as bac [04:30] Amaranth: tomorrow morning we can investigate it with the help of Michael Vogt (mvo). [04:30] alright === cprov-afk is now known as cprov-ZzZ === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === caravena [n=caravena@pc-84-203-83-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=beuno@200.127.224.173] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.5.12.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === lamont`` is now known as lamont === jml [n=jml@ppp121-44-219-182.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === MFen [n=cdodt@c-67-181-130-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #launchpad [06:42] are there any problems with the code of conduct signing form? [06:42] i just signed mine and pasted it in, and it says "(7, 9, 'No public key') [06:42] i have verified a public key already. [06:49] I'm not aware of any problems with that form. [06:49] Not sure how best to debug that though. [06:50] that's all i get. :( [06:50] could it be a timing thing? i tried to sign about 1 minute after i verified my key [06:51] MFen: is your key available on keyserver.ubuntu.com ? [06:51] perhaps it didn't propagate all over the gpg keyserver network? [06:52] checking.. [06:52] is there a web interface there? [06:52] nope [06:52] looks like it. [06:52] just use gpg --keyserver --recv-key 1234567 [06:52] this work for you? [06:52] gpg --recv-keys 70221d07 --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com [06:53] yeah it's there [06:53] k [06:53] gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 70221d07 [06:53] gpg: requesting key 70221D07 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com [06:53] gpg: key 70221D07: public key "Cory Dodt " imported [06:53] gpg: Total number processed: 1 [06:53] gpg: imported: 1 [06:54] thass me. [06:55] still getting the same error. maybe it's a temporary issue === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [07:05] MFen: what does your signed text look like? [07:07] jamesh: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE---- [07:07] ... [07:07] code of conduct, signature, END PGP SIGNATURE [07:07] MFen: can you please put that file somewhere I can download it? [07:08] sure [07:08] at least we can verify it's signed properly [07:08] http://rafb.net/p/k0fpUL28.html [07:08] i added spaces and stuff like it said to do [07:08] oh, ffs [07:08] i think i know what i did wrong, grr [07:08] i added spaces *after* i signed it [07:09] gpg: Signature made Wed 22 Aug 2007 12:41:29 WST using DSA key ID D6B09B02 [07:09] gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found [07:09] the signature won't match any more [07:09] WHEPS [07:09] the error message cbb [07:09] MFen: Heh. [07:10] MFen: key ID D6B09B02 doesn't seem to be linked to the key you mentioned earlier [07:10] jamesh: wth? i don't know why it signed with that key [07:11] perhaps you have multiple private keys and signed it with a different one? === spiv hates gpg's ui [07:11] MFen: gpg --default-key 70221d07 .... [07:12] thanks. know how to make that permanent? [07:12] nm, found it [07:12] public key cryptography: ready for your grandmother [07:13] that's what seahorse is for :) [07:13] yeah, if her surname is lovelace [07:14] jamesh: I still can't sign my wii-mail. [07:14] jml: Hm, it works for me in Evolution. When the phase of the moon is right. [07:14] jml: maybe you should have got a PS3 then [07:14] how do I *really know* who I'm losing to in Mario Strikers? [07:15] jamesh: hahaha [07:15] a PS3 probably has enough grunt to run GPG [07:15] RAOF: you don't have a wii [07:15] jml: Oh, sorry. EPARSE [07:15] jml, lol [07:15] you could run GPG 7 times in parallel [07:16] Wii == awesome [07:16] PS3 == $1000 [07:16] i bought a bunch of games but all i do is bowling and boxing on wii sports :P [07:16] jml, is strikers worth it, even if you can't verify your opponents? I've considered it myself :) [07:17] superm1: it's a really good game. [07:18] superm1: but whether it's worth it depends on how much time you spend playing it, how much you value your money etc :) [07:18] right. well maybe worth a rental first [07:18] if i didn't spend so much time on ubuntu and school stuff and work, i might have more time to play it :) [07:19] it's mario tennis on speed, right? [07:39] MFen: got everything sorted out? [07:41] jamesh: yep! i am an ubuntero now [07:41] i'll have to stop sinning and abusing :( [07:41] good. [07:43] MFen: only when participating in the Ubuntu community :) [07:44] ah, true === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus [n=irc@201.80-202-51.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === MFen [n=cdodt@c-67-181-130-236.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [08:18] BjornT: email tag support, is that planned ? [08:19] ooh, that might be fun [08:21] I basically don't use tags because I don't use the web ui except when I'm looking for bugs (and then I use google ;)) [08:22] if I'm doing rm I'll tag things [08:22] rm? [08:22] oh, yes, i see. then it might have a point === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [08:29] lifeless: yes, it's even implemented for 1.1.8, so it should be available in a day or so. === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #launchpad === RAOF [n=chris@123-243-65-41.tpgi.com.au] has joined #launchpad === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-143-216.net-htp.de] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad [09:29] morning [09:29] morning carlos === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.68] has joined #launchpad [09:37] BjornT: woot === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.5.12.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #launchpad === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #launchpad [09:49] is it possible to change my address in launchpad? I tried logging in on shop.canonical.com, but it displays my old (home) address, not my new one === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === intellectronica [n=intellec@host86-140-40-56.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #launchpad [09:53] Treenaks: either way, you can change your address on shop.canonical.com. [09:54] BjornT: ok, it's still a bit confusing :) [09:54] Treenaks: i agree, i was a bit confused about it as well :) [09:54] Treenaks, we know about that problem and we're discussing a solution === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad [10:14] mpt: thanks === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === doko_ is now known as doko === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === gmb [n=gmb@i-83-67-5-113.freedom2surf.net] has joined #launchpad === jsk_ [n=jonathan@client-82-26-19-241.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === Philip5 [n=Philip@83.253.56.100] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === jcs [n=jcspray@dot1x-138.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === zzorn [n=zz@212.16.103.33] has joined #launchpad === zzorn_sleep [n=zz@212.16.103.33] has joined #launchpad === jsk_ [n=jonathan@client-82-26-19-241.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === jsk [n=jonathan@client-82-26-19-241.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === helix84 [n=a@adsl-dyn173.91-127-104.t-com.sk] has joined #launchpad === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Spads_ [i=spacehob@nat/canonical/x-3f9fb8cb84f7816f] has joined #launchpad === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-177-23.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === zul_ is now known as zul === mrevell is now known as mrevell-food === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === cprov-ZzZ is now known as cprov === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ubuntu/member/gwaihir] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === Spads_ [i=spacehob@nat/canonical/x-4ce49000a858efc9] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === Spads [i=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === helix84 [n=a@adsl-dyn173.91-127-104.t-com.sk] has joined #launchpad [03:07] hello. i'm managing a few packages at translationproject.org. how do i get new version of .po files into rosetta? === mrevell-food is now known as mrevell [03:14] helix84: at present, PO files for upstream packages need to be manually imported into Launchpad (although some people do use scripts to automate the process) [03:14] how can i do that? [03:15] helix84: the registrant for the project in Launchpad can upload new PO files === carlos -> lunch [03:16] so for each package i have to contact the registrant? [03:16] is there a way to get permissions for this for a set of packages or for a language? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has left #launchpad [] === bac_ [n=bac@r74-193-51-98.gldwcmta01.glwttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad [03:45] helix84: perhaps carlos or danilos can give you a pointer. At present I believe the registrant needs to upload the PO templates though. [03:46] thanks. carlos? danilos? [03:46] what about pushing changes from rosetta to upstream packages? who's responsible for that? [03:46] helix84: start with https://help.launchpad.net/TranslationsImportPolicy and if something is not clear there, feel free to ask [03:53] how can i tell if a template is distribution or product? === kiko [n=kiko@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.active.kiko] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === barry supposes its time to start the eu/us reviewer meeting [04:01] hi everybody. for the next 45 minutes or less, we're going to be conducting the eu/us launchpad review team meeting [04:02] == Agenda == [04:02] * Roll call [04:02] * Next meeting [04:02] * Queue status [04:02] * New reviewer nominations [04:02] who's here? [04:02] me [04:02] me [04:02] me [04:02] barry: btw, does this mean that you'll be chairing the eu/us meetings from now on? [04:03] me [04:03] BjornT: i just kind of assumed so, but if you want to keep doing it... :) [04:04] barry: no, i'm fine with you doing it :) you should update ReviewerMeetingAgenda, though [04:04] BjornT: will do! [04:04] salgado: ping ? [04:05] me [04:05] salgado: awesome thanks [04:05] :) [04:05] there are no other apologies so i think have everyone [04:05] oh wait SteveA ping [04:06] * Next meeting [04:06] same bat time, same bat channel? any objections? [04:06] some of us will be sprinting but i think we can still make it [04:06] 3 [04:06] 2 [04:06] 1 [04:07] cool [04:07] * Queue status [04:07] 7 in needs-review with 4 over the 2 day limit [04:08] lifeless has the oldest branch [04:08] kiko and stub have old branches too, but theirs are in conflict [04:08] I am the winner of the "unreliable reviewer of the cycle" award :-( [04:08] i'll review the one in my queue soon, it was was assigned to me while i was on vacation [04:08] i think we're done with 1.1.8 branches right? does anybody have anything left to review for 1.1.8?! [04:09] BjornT: cool thanks. kiko's blue ribbon is in the mail [04:09] does anybody have any 1.1.8 branches in needs-reply? [04:10] 5 [04:10] 4 [04:10] 3 [04:10] 2 [04:10] 1 [04:10] I did [04:10] but I'll update now [04:10] kiko: thanks [04:10] there's nothing in the general queue so i think we're looking pretty good [04:11] great work everyone [04:11] get ready to start all over again :) [04:11] I wanted to say [04:11] that the allocations this month worked really well I thought [04:11] kiko: i totally agree. [04:11] is that mostly to do with salgado's dilligence? [04:12] salgado was doing most of the assignments out of general? if so, way to go salgado! [04:12] I think so [04:12] I was doing them once a day at least === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [04:12] but jamesh did some as well [04:12] and so did lifeless, I think [04:13] it's great to have multiple coverage. thanks all three of you. i don't think our general queue was ever backed up [04:13] barry, are you going to do allocations now as well? [04:13] salgado: you're doing such a good job, i'll let you continue :) [04:14] salgado: do you think this is something you'll get burned out on at some point or is it mostly painless? [04:14] i ask because if it's a big burden, then we should round-robin responsibility for it to spread the love [04:14] it's painless if you do once a day [04:15] (and with the help of the It's All Text firefox extension) === barry loves IAT too [04:15] is that a good thing? [04:15] the important thing is to have a good timezone coverage so that branches stay less than 24h on the general queue [04:15] with me and jamesh doing the allocations I think we have that [04:16] salgado: agreed. okay, please let us know if you start to get burned out and we'll find someone else to take over for a while. same goes for jamesh and lifeless [04:16] kiko: IAT rocks [04:16] helix84: distribution templates are usually under launchpad.net/ubuntu/.... url space [04:16] PendingReviews is a mess [04:17] kiko: well it should be a web app instead of a wiki page, and it should be merged with pending-reviews but that's not on the agenda for today :) [04:18] anything else on queue status? [04:18] 5 [04:18] 4 [04:18] 3 [04:18] 2 [04:18] 1 [04:18] * New reviewer nominations [04:18] did anybody not see the list of nominations that i sent out a few hours ago? === statik is still behind on mail === Adri2000 [n=adri2000@ubuntu/member/adri2000] has joined #launchpad [04:19] I didn't === salgado checks === bac_ i'm having mail problems so i haven't seen it [04:19] okay no problem [04:19] barry: I've read it now [04:19] in summary: i received 6 responses to my call for nominations [04:20] jtv: 3, jml: 3, mwhudson: 2, sinzui: 1, intellectronica: 1 [04:21] the list makes sense to me and i propose we invite them all. if you have objections state them now, or in pvt msg or pvt email. if the au folks agree, we'll invite them and figure out mentor assignments for next cycle [04:21] sounds fine to me [04:22] thanks kiko [04:22] the only objection i'd have, is that the more new reviewers, the more time will be needed for mentoring [04:22] it might make sense to limit the number of new reviewers each cycle [04:23] BjornT, that's a good point. I also want to do reviewer training at allhands [04:23] BjornT: true, but we have 12 reviewers now, which is i think 3 more than the last round [04:24] i think that means we can have a primary mentor for each new nominee, and still have a backup for vacation and illnesses and such [04:24] without any one reviewer having more than one mentoree [04:25] BjornT: your opinion is noted and i'll add that to the meeting summary. we'll see if anybody else has similar reservations. thanks. [04:25] if there's nothing else, then that's it for the agenda. just one last thing to note [04:26] we've all agreed on a 2k limit for branch sizes so don't feel bad about kicking big branches out immediately [04:27] let us know if 2k is unreasonable, and also it's up to you to let your branch authors convince you to accept a bigger branch. [04:28] i really think this limit will help us all feel much less pain [04:28] i guess that's it. anything else? [04:28] 5 [04:28] 4 [04:28] 3 [04:28] 2 [04:28] 1 [04:28] well, i could just add that i've started a list thread for discussion the 'add notes to reviewers' issue [04:29] please read it and discuss [04:29] BjornT: yes, thanks for that. i have a reply to that i'll send after this meeting [04:29] 5...4...3...2...1 [04:29] MEETING ENDS [04:30] thanks everyone! [04:30] thanks barry [04:30] thanks barry! === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.professional.rinchen] has joined #launchpad === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === statik [n=emurphy@189.66.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === oojah_ is now known as oojah === carlos [n=carlos@canonical/launchpad/carlos] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-phone === tck [n=tck@213-202-140-94.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === helix84 [n=a@adsl-dyn173.91-127-104.t-com.sk] has left #launchpad [] === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl5400C57A.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === LucidFox [n=LucidFox@wikia/Sikon] has joined #launchpad [05:52] I have uploaded a translation template for my upstream project. How do I make the corresponding Ubuntu package use it? === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === helix84 [n=a@adsl-dyn173.91-127-104.t-com.sk] has joined #launchpad === kiko-phone is now known as kiko [06:12] LucidFox, you contact the package maintainer [06:12] LucidFox, or, you work with the Ubuntu translation team to update the translations for the package [06:14] greetings kiko [06:15] hello Hobbsee === cypherbios [n=cyr@201.21.169.51] has joined #launchpad === meduxa [i=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad [06:21] kiko> I'm the upstream developer. The package maintainer is from Debian., as the package was imported from Debian with no Ubuntu changes. [06:23] it's probably in universe, too, which doenst export rosetta translations, iirc [06:25] ahh === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #launchpad === gmb-afk is now known as gmb === sourcercito [n=sourcer@pc-178-169-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #launchpad [06:32] LucidFox, so yeah, you need to talk to the debian maintainer, or get a MOTU to maintain a delta :) [06:32] hi, there is any launchpad admin here? === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === cprov-lunch is now known as cprov === never|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad [06:56] so, are we there yet? ;-) === mayeco [n=mayeco@200.75.192.12] has joined #launchpad [06:58] almost === LaserJock starts planning all the packages he needs to upload to his shiny new PPA :-) === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === cprov is now known as cprov-away === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #launchpad [07:15] New bug: #134012 in launchpad "script monitor needs a database user" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134012 [07:15] New bug: #134014 in launchpad-bazaar "Branch-in-bug-report status pages have "no title" and snoozing tabs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134014 [07:15] New bug: #134016 in malone ""Are you sure you want to request a fix anyway?" needs tweaking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134016 [07:17] what is http://ppa.launchpad.net/? [07:18] mayeco: it's for https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart [07:21] heyy that is nice :D [07:21] i'm testing now [07:21] thanks LaserJock [07:22] mayeco: you probably want to wait until the new Launchpad release lands === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [07:23] as URLs are going to change, etc. when it "goes live" === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [07:31] New bug: #134090 in launchpad "valid_name and valid_branch_name are not consistent" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134090 [07:35] uh [07:35] ppa is a good idea, but wouldn't cooperating with existing services like the OpenSuse build service better? === sourcercito [n=sourcer@pc-178-169-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #launchpad ["Saliendo"] [07:37] is there any reason apart from the usual issues when trying to cooperate with a competing project? [07:37] because it's a part of a much bigger system, and it's a different approach, I believe [07:37] but I'm not an LP dev so I can't say for sure [07:38] the big thing for me is that we can eventually integrate everything [07:38] wearing my "upstream developer" hat, I'd like to have to use as little different tools as possible === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [07:39] of course in an ideal world, everybody would just use debs [07:39] or whatever other package format === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === gmb is now known as gmb-afk === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [08:19] anyone know what the easiest way to get a commit bot going for launchpad code uploads? === cprov-away is now known as cprov [08:21] seems jelmer has a script for a CIA bot post commit hook; can that be made to work with LP somehow? [08:21] that's a good question for thumper and ddaa and mwh, since I asked about exactly this today :) [08:22] cool; if it helps, the script is here: http://cia.vc/clients/bzr/cia_bzr.py [08:22] right now you'd have to have something driven by email, i think [08:22] we have an branch email subscription mechanism [08:22] that should give you all you want [08:23] it would be neat to include a feature directly in LP though; apparently sourceforge does it, and I'd have no idea how to go about setting up something email driven [08:23] mdke: no idea what else you would expect [08:24] running a IRC bot from Launchpad? [08:24] ddaa: integration with an existing IRC commit bot such as CIA? [08:24] lemme see if I can find out what sourceforge offers [08:24] mdke: I'm fairly sure CIA supports email-driven stuff [08:25] commit mailing lists is a fairly ubiquitous mechanism === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad [08:26] mdke: I have no idea what "integrating with CIA" involves. [08:26] actually, I have no clue what CIA is. [08:26] Is that a web service? [08:26] is that a piece of software you run on your workstation? [08:27] nor do I, I just read that sourceforge includes built-in support for it; you can see it here: http://cia.vc/doc/adding-projects/ [08:27] anyway, was just an idea; I'll investigate doing something by email [08:27] thanks [08:28] Looks like CIA is svn-specific [08:28] no, not at all [08:28] those three bullet points are alternatives === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [08:28] oh well, then I guess we'd need to implement "built-in CIA support" [08:29] suggest you file a bug about it [08:29] is it a realistic feature to ask for? [08:29] I do not know. [08:30] It does not appear particularly insane on face value. [08:30] isn't http://cia.vc/clients/baz/cia_baz.sh enough? [08:30] baz? [08:30] what's baz for? [08:30] *cough* [08:31] salgado: commit hooks mechanisms do not work will DVCS [08:31] they require everybody to run the commit hook locally [08:31] that's why launchpad branch email is very useful === hangthedj_lappy [n=eric@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has joined #launchpad [08:32] indeed [08:33] isn't it enough to run the commit hook only on the mainline branch? [08:33] salgado: it does not work if the branch is team owned. [08:33] (and I meant to say http://samba.org/~jelmer/bzr/cia_bzr.py instead of that baz thing) [08:33] he said baz again [08:34] it relies on the hook being run by every committer, on every commit. [08:34] That can be made sort of works in some cases, but it's always a half-assed solution for stuff like commit mail or cia integration. [08:34] (unless the only comitter is a pqm bot) [08:35] The problem is that it requires 1. collaboration from every committer 2. server grade reliability on developer workstations. [08:35] hmmm. I was thinking it'd be possible to run the commit hook on the server side [08:35] Both of which are unrealistic in general. [08:36] salgado: which server? sftp server? [08:36] there's no server in bzr [08:36] the commit hook needs to be on a mirror [08:37] on /the/ mirror ideally :) [08:37] because if you have multiple mirrors.. [08:37] well, there's one central point to which everybody commit their work at some point, no? [08:37] not necessarily [08:38] but assuming it's true, that does not mean there's a single server [08:38] some people may be using sftp, other direct filesystem, other bzr+ssh to access the same repository [08:38] unless it's hosted on Launchpad [08:38] but if you mean the Launchpad server you are just saying the same thing as me [08:38] ah, right. I see the difference now [08:39] which is "we need a centralized authority to make it work" [08:40] There are ways to make this work without launchpad, but they all involve a similar architecture: A single smart server, or intermediate mirror. === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@dsl5400C524.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ is now known as phanatic === beuno [n=beuno@44-111-231-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad [08:58] ddaa: ok, I'll file it and see what happens [08:59] mdke: on launchpad-bazaar project [08:59] thanks [08:59] from a quick glance, it appears to be just a custom form of email notification [09:00] nothing really hard to implement, I guess the question is more whether the power that be think we should support CIA or do NIH. [09:00] in any case, it will likely at least a few months before we get there [09:01] sure [09:01] in the meantime, I might ask Seveas if the bug bot could do something similar [09:01] mdke, ? [09:01] Seveas: ah rock you're here [09:02] Seveas: subscribe to code updates on projects and notify new uploads to a channel [09:02] uploads/commits [09:02] does launchpad send emails on code updates? [09:02] yeah [09:03] it does for package uploads, that drives my rss feeds [09:03] see for example https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-changes/+addsubscriber [09:03] right [09:04] what does the CIA bot display? [09:04] first line of log? [09:04] think so [09:04] here's what it does for an svn commit - 15:47:47 < CIA-32> Ubuntu Documentation: lucius * r4289 xubuntu/switching/C/applications.xml: patch from george [09:05] right [09:05] bzr changeset often span many files and have a more-than-one-line log [09:05] how to display those? [09:06] well, all revision controls do I guess; lemme see === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === mdke can't find an example, continues looking [09:09] Launchpad PPAs where due to go public today iirc; has that happened yet? [09:09] according to the announcement email I just got, yep === tonyyarusso can't see it in his options yet, might be blind [09:10] tonyyarusso: radix: not yet, the announcement says "after 1.1.8" which will be tomorrow morning [09:10] cprov: aah. [09:11] Seveas: seems to display multiple lines; I'll just do a paste of recent activity in #commits [09:11] Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34691/ [09:11] woops :) === geser [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #launchpad === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #launchpad [09:12] mdke, too spammy for something for ubotu [09:13] Seveas: maybe there is a trimmed down solution? just take the first line or something? === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad === Pricey [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [09:55] How often are uploads of new translation files for projects reviewed? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #launchpad === bac is now known as bac_afk === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === bac_afk is now known as bac === dfear [n=dfear@82-46-27-208.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl5400C5B7.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-140-94.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad [10:45] New bug: #134131 in soyuz "NoMoreAptFtpArchive generates incorrect Releases file" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134131 [10:46] will LP be down when 1.1.8 is rolled out? [10:48] LaserJock: mthaddon is the best person to answer that [10:51] LaserJock: yes - for approx 45 mins - 1 hour in about 7.5 hours [10:51] mthaddon: excellent, that's exactly what I wanted to know :-) [10:54] thanks mthaddon [10:54] np [10:59] mrevell: get my pm? [11:00] LaserJock: Yes, and I replied. Bloody Freenode didn't have me recognised by nickserv. I'll re-post my replies [11:00] heh, that's 2 people who've cursed freenode in the last hour ;-) [11:00] :) [11:00] I love Freenode really :) === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-56-100.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #launchpad [11:15] i havent seen the beta testing pages in a long time is there something i need to do to get them back, it used to redirect me to edge.LP.* but no longer does this === tokj [n=tk@151.82.7.75] has joined #launchpad [11:26] gnomefreak: We haven't redirected to beta for a while now. We should have some news on beta team redirection soon, though. [11:26] mrevell: ok ty [11:31] morning === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [11:40] New bug: #134143 in rosetta "translation dates incoherency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134143 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #launchpad === tck [n=tck@213-202-140-94.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === cprov is now known as cprov-out