| theCore | indeed | 12:40 |
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| theCore | I will probably have some free time for the guide in mid September, after I finish my Python project | 12:42 |
| theCore | but until then, I am not sure if I can commit to anything | 12:43 |
| LaserJock | might be best if for Gutsy the packaging guide just gets looked over for stuff that needs to be updated | 12:47 |
| LaserJock | and not adding any new content really | 12:47 |
| theCore | Hmm... I still have my notes about packaging lying around. | 12:52 |
| theCore | I think I will polish them up, and put them in the guide | 12:53 |
| theCore | and I still have a half written blog post "Debian Packaging 101 (Part 2)" | 12:55 |
| theCore | in which, I mostly talk about creating a good packaging environment | 12:55 |
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| mdke | morning all | 09:13 |
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| popey | morning | 09:36 |
| dsas | moin popey | 09:36 |
| mdke | hiya popey, good move with the screencasts mailing list | 09:36 |
| popey | hey dsas, long time no type | 09:36 |
| popey | thanks mdke | 09:36 |
| mdke | is it going well? | 09:36 |
| popey | kinda | 09:36 |
| popey | i have a major blitz planned | 09:36 |
| popey | 30 screencasts in 30 days | 09:36 |
| mdke | good | 09:37 |
| mdke | whoa | 09:37 |
| mdke | we haven't got anywhere to adding links in the documentation | 09:37 |
| popey | zero to hero | 09:37 |
| mdke | do you fancy preparing a list of suitable screencasts to be added? | 09:37 |
| popey | funny you should say that mdke :) | 09:37 |
| popey | it was suggested to me that screencasts should be more integral to apps | 09:38 |
| mdke | then we'll get our minions *cough* docuMENTORS on the job | 09:38 |
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| mdke | popey: right. But adding links to the documentation is something easy we can probably do now | 09:38 |
| popey | sure, but only once there is content? | 09:39 |
| popey | and there is currently very little | 09:39 |
| mdke | yes, of course. | 09:39 |
| mdke | oh, ok | 09:39 |
| popey | i.e. I would wait until there was a critical mass, if that makes sense | 09:39 |
| mdke | popey: ok, let us know how it goes :) | 09:40 |
| popey | wilco | 09:40 |
| popey | i have a meeting at canonical tomorrow about it | 09:40 |
| mdke | oh rly | 09:40 |
| popey | hopefully it can be moved on a bit | 09:40 |
| popey | ya rly | 09:40 |
| popey | brekkie time! | 09:40 |
| mdke | about integrating them into the desktop? | 09:40 |
| popey | yes | 09:41 |
| mdke | nice | 09:41 |
| mdke | interesting to get a balance between screencasts and documentation | 09:41 |
| popey | agreed | 09:41 |
| mdke | good luck with that | 09:41 |
| mdke | and let us know how it goes :) | 09:42 |
| popey | sure | 09:42 |
| mdke | popey: if we could find a way to integrate videos with yelp, then we could integrate both documentation and screencasts alongside each other better into the desktop | 09:43 |
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| dsas | popey: Indeed :) I've finished at uni now, so I've got a real job and I'm back living close to Sara, so I've cut down my involvement in many things Ubuntu. | 09:47 |
| popey | ahh, the influence of real life :) | 09:50 |
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| dsas | aye :), someones started an nderbys LUG though, so maybe Real Life and Linux will merge more closely again. | 09:51 |
| CIA-32 | Ubuntu Documentation: mantha * r4288 debian/changelog: committed changelog for 7.07.2 upload | 09:54 |
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| mpt | http://ask.metafilter.com/69793/ | 02:26 |
| nixternal | clonezilla is the way to go for something like this | 02:31 |
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| Gwaihir | mdke: is there a way of having a bzr checkout of gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-change in some sort of tarball? I'm behind a dial-up and in 3 hours I've seen no progress... | 02:37 |
| jjesse | Gwaihir: are you doing a bzr branch or bzr checkout? i thought i read bzr checkout is faster cause you don't download the history? | 02:59 |
| Gwaihir | I'm doing a bzr checkout... | 02:59 |
| jjesse | hmm don't know for sure if there is a tarball | 03:00 |
| Gwaihir | If it's faster than bzr branch... I don't know how slow should it be... | 03:00 |
| Gwaihir | anyway... i'll wait and see... :) | 03:01 |
| Gwaihir | hmmm... I'll stop and restart... I see there's a --lightweight option that maybe could useful... | 03:05 |
| mpt | "Lightweight checkouts depend on access to the branch for every operation." | 03:18 |
| mpt | So if you use --lightweight, your commits will take longer (on dial-up, probably much longer) | 03:19 |
| mpt | and so will your merges | 03:20 |
| mpt | If you want to invest some time (and learning) now to make branching faster, I suggest setting up a local repository | 03:21 |
| mpt | see "bzr init-repository --help" | 03:21 |
| Gwaihir | I'll check it out... | 03:21 |
| mpt | Then create your branches within the repository | 03:22 |
| === mpt hopes he's not talking nonsense | ||
| === jjesse understands | ||
| mpt | http://bazaar-vcs.org/SharedRepositoryTutorial | 03:23 |
| Gwaihir | oh.. that's a good resource... | 03:24 |
| mpt | If you maintain a local copy of mainline, you can make each new branch from that, rather than branching from Launchpad each time | 03:26 |
| mpt | That should cut your branching time down to a minute or less | 03:27 |
| Gwaihir | got it... (think and hope) easier to maintain with a dial-up... | 03:27 |
| mpt | then you can run "bzr pull" on your copy of mainline, when convenient, to update it | 03:28 |
| mpt | (The longer you leave it without updating, the more likely your branches will have conflicts when people try to merge them) | 03:28 |
| mpt | Sorry, by "mainline" I mean "trunk" | 03:30 |
| Gwaihir | yes... I'm starting to know bzr now... and made a little confusion with terminology coming from SVN | 03:30 |
| Gwaihir | if I lost the connection or have to shutdown the PC... how am I supposed to restart branching? simply by bzr branch http://... again from inside the directory? | 03:53 |
| jjesse | i don't know, but i think so | 04:02 |
| Gwaihir | I'll ask on #bzr ;) | 04:10 |
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| CIA-32 | Ubuntu Documentation: lucius * r4289 xubuntu/switching/C/applications.xml: patch from george | 04:47 |
| CIA-32 | Ubuntu Documentation: lucius * r4290 xubuntu/printing/C/printing.xml: other patch by george | 04:55 |
| CIA-32 | Ubuntu Documentation: lucius * r4291 xubuntu/switching/C/applications.xml: oops, i missed that george provided a slightly updated version of his first patch, so here comes the update | 05:01 |
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| sommer | hey all. I was following: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Contribute and when I get the the make part it works fine. | 06:56 |
| sommer | except the links to the server documentation area ping to genhelp:basic-commands | 06:56 |
| sommer | just wondering if there's something I've done wrong? | 06:56 |
| sommer | point/ping | 06:57 |
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| mdke | sommer: that's normal; nothing you've done wrong. | 07:39 |
| sommer | mdke: ah...I updated the mail.xml file Dovecot section and I was testing to make sure everything looks good. | 07:47 |
| sommer | is there another way to view that content in a browser? | 07:47 |
| mdke | sommer: best way is to view the xml file directly in Yelp | 07:47 |
| sommer | mdke: okay, I did that and everything looks good. | 07:48 |
| mdke | :) | 07:48 |
| sommer | should the contrib page be updated? | 07:48 |
| mdke | sommer: the other thing is to check the document using the validate.sh script | 07:48 |
| mdke | sommer: sure, you can include that in your patch if you like | 07:49 |
| sommer | mdke: cool thanks for your help. | 07:50 |
| mdke | thanks for your efforts | 07:51 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: "There are 27 direct members of the "Ubuntu Documentation Project" team, and 73 people are members in total, directly and indirectly" is that going to cause problems if we use ~ubuntu-doc for access control? | 09:16 |
| mdke | LaserJock: I don't know, but we'd certainly have to think about the appropriate way to structure things. | 09:18 |
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| CIA-33 | Ubuntu Documentation: lucius * r4292 xubuntu/libs/xubuntu.ent: update location of thunar and terminal in the applications menu. closes LP #132462 | 11:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 132462 in ubuntu-doc "Xubuntu help list terminal located at Application>System>Terminal" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132462 | 11:56 |
| jjesse | ooo i love it when bugs get closed :) | 12:18 |
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| jrib | is wiki.ubuntu.com not aware of the help.ubuntu.com/community wiki? I can't find it on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InterWiki | 12:20 |
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| LaserJock | no, they are separate, I believe completely | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | hi jjesse | 12:21 |
| jrib | but wiki.ubuntu.com is aware of wikis like PythonWiki. Is there a reason not to allow InterWiki links from wiki.ubuntu.com to help.ubuntu.com/community? | 12:23 |
| jjesse | hiya LaserJock | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | jrib: I guess we never thought of it | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | jrib: they are supposed to be pretty orthogonal | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | jrib: but maybe ask the list, it's a good question | 12:24 |
| jrib | help.ubuntu.com/community does have wiki.ubuntu.com in its InterWiki page so I found it strange | 12:25 |
| jrib | LaserJock: thanks, I'll mail ubuntu-doc about it then | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | ah, well I doubt wiki.ubuntu.com has been touched much since the wiki was split | 12:26 |
| jjesse | for a note is it <note> <para>text</para></note> | 12:42 |
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