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| ogra | anyone here ? | 02:01 |
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| juliux | hey ogra | 02:01 |
| === ogra wonders why ubotu didnt update | ||
| === juliux is half here | ||
| juliux | @schedule | 02:02 |
| RichEd | hi all ... start in 1 min ... | 02:02 |
| juliux | ogra, ubotu is not here;) | 02:02 |
| ogra | ah | 02:02 |
| === highvoltage arrives | ||
| RichEd | Okay ... here is a test version of the agenda for Edubuntu-Devel ... the old tech part of the 2 hour meeting. | 02:03 |
| RichEd | * | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Technical | 02:03 |
| RichEd | o | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Where are we in the development cycle: | 02:03 |
| RichEd | + | 02:03 |
| RichEd | What was the last deadline ? | 02:03 |
| RichEd | # | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Item | 02:03 |
| RichEd | # | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Date | 02:03 |
| RichEd | + | 02:03 |
| RichEd | What is the next deadline ? | 02:03 |
| RichEd | # | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Item | 02:03 |
| RichEd | # | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Date | 02:03 |
| RichEd | o | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Progress over the last week | 02:03 |
| RichEd | o | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline | 02:03 |
| RichEd | o | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Issues needing assistance for the next deadline | 02:03 |
| RichEd | o | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Any Other Items under Artwork | 02:03 |
| RichEd | o | 02:03 |
| RichEd | Any Other Items under Documentation | 02:04 |
| RichEd | o | 02:04 |
| RichEd | Planned Activities for coming week | 02:04 |
| RichEd | let's try this out today and see if it works ... I'll drive the agenda. | 02:04 |
| RichEd | ogra: Where are we in the development cycle ? | 02:04 |
| RichEd | What was the last deadline ? | 02:04 |
| RichEd | Item | 02:04 |
| RichEd | Date | 02:04 |
| RichEd | ?? | 02:04 |
| === highvoltage increases window size | ||
| RichEd | sorry about the shody paste ... wiki cut & paste adds line breaks :( | 02:04 |
| RichEd | *shoddy | 02:04 |
| ogra | well, lets see if my paste is better then :) | 02:05 |
| ogra | == General == | 02:05 |
| ogra | Done: | 02:05 |
| ogra | - lots of screensaver fixing for thin client usage (fixed several crashers, no graphics intensive modes being used anymore and no fading) | 02:05 |
| ogra | - lots of merges and code reviews of ltsp/ldm code (still more ahead) | 02:05 |
| ogra | - set spec staus where possible (see list below) | 02:05 |
| ogra | Ahead: | 02:05 |
| ogra | - TCM needs a lot of love (fixing the userlist functions to get it going with new ldm, easier vnc setup for the chroot/image) | 02:05 |
| ogra | - one massive bug outstanding to be solved before tribe 6 (bug 121547) | 02:05 |
| ogra | - tribe 5 planned for this thursday, please help tesing | 02:05 |
| ogra | - poking around with libflashsupport to get it to multiverse (flash sound on thin clients) | 02:05 |
| ogra | - get moodle status from moquist (no news yet, he contacted pitti about postgres db creation scripts) | 02:06 |
| ogra | == Specs == | 02:06 |
| ogra | Implemented: | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltsp-boot-performance | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ldm-improvements | 02:06 |
| ogra | - fully-automatic-swapserver | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ldm-loadbalancing -> vagrant to set status | 02:06 |
| ogra | Deferred for gutsy+1: | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices | 02:06 |
| ogra | - gphoto-ltspfs | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltsp-update-manager-integration | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltsp-management-gui -> (hope to get global settings going at least) | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltsp-fat-clients | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltsp-local-apps -> sbalneav to set status | 02:06 |
| ogra | Unknown: | 02:06 |
| ogra | - ltsp-palm-devices -> sbalneav to report status | 02:06 |
| ogra | i'll try to maintain such a report in the future, should keep the tech part short | 02:06 |
| RichEd | that's great :) ... will be easy to make minutes & action list out of that ... | 02:07 |
| zul | ./topic | 02:07 |
| zul | sorry | 02:07 |
| ogra | right | 02:07 |
| ogra | zul, ubotu is gone, so no topic updates atm ... | 02:07 |
| RichEd | can we work through my section suggestions ... to see how it fits together ... I still think we need contest as to where we are in the dev cycle (I know I do) :) | 02:07 |
| ogra | (edubuntu meeting now) | 02:07 |
| RichEd | What was the last deadline ? | 02:07 |
| RichEd | What is the next deadline ? | 02:08 |
| ogra | no idea ? | 02:08 |
| RichEd | I mean in terms of the dev cycle ... last one was tribe 4 ? | 02:08 |
| gpocentek | ogra: I think I have a libflashsupport somewhere if it can help | 02:08 |
| gpocentek | a package* | 02:08 |
| ogra | last deadline was UVF/feature freeze | 02:08 |
| ogra | gpocentek, i have one ready already, but it was rejected, the one from the EdubuntuFAQ is horribly packaged | 02:09 |
| RichEd | ah ... and explain that in 1 sentence for the technically challenged ... what is UVF ? | 02:09 |
| ogra | i need to get it going with gnutls instead of libssl etc to get it included | 02:09 |
| gpocentek | ogra: ok | 02:09 |
| ogra | upstresam version freeze | 02:09 |
| ogra | nothing new can enter main anymore | 02:09 |
| RichEd | :) thanks | 02:09 |
| ogra | (unless you do a bit of paperwork and get a review) | 02:10 |
| RichEd | and what is the next deadline ... item and date ? | 02:10 |
| ogra | feture freeze is no new features can be adeed anymore (same exception rules) | 02:10 |
| ogra | next immediate dealine is tribe5 (thursday) | 02:10 |
| RichEd | * Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline ? | 02:10 |
| ogra | next important deadline is beta release | 02:10 |
| ogra | bug 121547 needs to be solved before next tribe release | 02:11 |
| toutouff | I've got a problem with pbuilder, could you help me ? | 02:11 |
| ogra | (tribe6, archive is friozen this week until tribe5 is out) | 02:11 |
| ogra | toutouff, we're in the middle of a meeting and this is no support channel, try #ubuntu-motu | 02:11 |
| toutouff | sorry, wrong channel | 02:12 |
| toutouff | :/ | 02:12 |
| RichEd | ogra: quick summary of the bug ? and what needs to be done to squash it ? | 02:12 |
| ogra | i need to rewrite the installed bits for ltsp | 02:12 |
| RichEd | and will you be able to manage in time for the deadline ? | 02:13 |
| ogra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/121547 | 02:13 |
| ogra | at least for beta i can guarantee it ... cant promise it for tribe 6 | 02:13 |
| ogra | but i'll do my best | 02:13 |
| RichEd | * Issues needing assistance for the next deadline ? | 02:13 |
| ogra | having two tribe releases instead of one before beta doesnt help here :/ | 02:13 |
| RichEd | can anyone help you with that bug or anything else ? | 02:14 |
| ogra | not wi5th that bug, no | 02:14 |
| ogra | i listed actions above where others are required | 02:14 |
| === RichEd scrolls back | ||
| ogra | moodle is still in the clouds, no feedback from mmoquist yet apart from him saying he wants to have it ready | 02:15 |
| ogra | sbalneav and vagrant need to clean up theoir spec statuses | 02:15 |
| RichEd | will you prod them, or will it help if i ask nicely as well :) | 02:15 |
| ogra | beyond that i get all help i can get from scottie during this bugfixing phase | 02:15 |
| ogra | i'll go after them, all fine | 02:16 |
| highvoltage | ogra: is vagrant doing full-time ltsp now? | 02:16 |
| ogra | no | 02:16 |
| ogra | he's doing freegek | 02:16 |
| ogra | *freegeek | 02:16 |
| highvoltage | ah | 02:16 |
| ogra | he still didnt get his stuff sorted | 02:17 |
| RichEd | * Any Other Items under Artwork | 02:17 |
| ogra | anyway, thats all from tech side, any other questions ? | 02:18 |
| ogra | not yet ... i'll need to tackle the artwork package and do some cleanups .. but thats for tribe6 | 02:18 |
| RichEd | Fine ... Jill mailed to say thanks for the feedback in the meeting last week. | 02:18 |
| ogra | scott is already preparing docs for the new ltsp stuff we have | 02:18 |
| RichEd | I mentioned the abstract concept for the default desktop, and she said she would try to complete some she had started. | 02:19 |
| ogra | good | 02:19 |
| ogra | i'm fine with the one we have as "young" flavor | 02:19 |
| RichEd | When is the final freeze for artwork ? | 02:19 |
| RichEd | official and unofficial ;) | 02:19 |
| ogra | (the logo could be a bit less in the face though) | 02:19 |
| === ogra looks on GutsyReleaseSchedule | ||
| RichEd | are you talking about her sample ? the logo comment ? | 02:20 |
| highvoltage | RichEd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | 02:20 |
| ogra | sept 20th is final | 02:20 |
| ogra | yes | 02:20 |
| ogra | i'm talking about the sample | 02:20 |
| RichEd | okay ... i'll add that to the comment page she is working off | 02:20 |
| ogra | the logo is very huge and to much in the face imho | 02:20 |
| RichEd | I wanted to give her samples of all of the old default desktops we shipped, but art.ubuntu.com is out of action | 02:21 |
| RichEd | So I have given her the 2 I have access to ... LTS and feisty | 02:21 |
| ogra | osdir ususally has a bunch | 02:21 |
| RichEd | osdir ? not familiar with that ? | 02:21 |
| ogra | LTS was the chalkboard ... | 02:21 |
| ogra | osdir.com | 02:21 |
| RichEd | okay will check for more ... | 02:21 |
| ogra | edgy and feisty were the best ones we had yet | 02:22 |
| RichEd | * Any Other Items under Documentation | 02:22 |
| ogra | as i said, scott is on it and i'll review | 02:22 |
| RichEd | okay ... is that it for tech then ? anyone with questions ? | 02:22 |
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| RichEd | Okay .... some general discussion for people who are interested: | 02:23 |
| RichEd | * how do we get more users at the meeting ? | 02:23 |
| RichEd | I can advertise in the mail list, but I need to get an idea of what topics will pull people in to attend. | 02:24 |
| juliux | RichEd, for me one meeting per weeks is too much | 02:24 |
| juliux | RichEd, if it would be only once a month then there could be more topics and more people | 02:25 |
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| ogra | juliux, well, we have different people at the differently scheduled meetings | 02:25 |
| RichEd | juliux: so would you suggest tech every week, and users once a month ? | 02:25 |
| juliux | RichEd, yes | 02:25 |
| RichEd | If we have a edubuntu-users section of the meeting, we can start some debate / poll topics on the mail list, and then meet to discuss monthly ? | 02:25 |
| RichEd | so keep it down to 1 hour per week for tech & general dev ... | 02:25 |
| === ogra would suggest twice a month | ||
| ogra | one in the evening and one in the morning | 02:25 |
| juliux | ogra, that is also fine | 02:26 |
| ogra | and we need to find a solution for EC if we do that as well | 02:26 |
| RichEd | that would work for me as well ... every second week ... | 02:26 |
| RichEd | but then we are always at the same time ... no variance for the US people | 02:26 |
| ogra | RichEd, twice a month with alternating times | 02:26 |
| ogra | as we have iot now, but skip two a month | 02:26 |
| RichEd | perhaps first meeting of the month ... and do the EC stuff ... and then 3 weeks after that ? | 02:27 |
| RichEd | that will alternate the times ? | 02:27 |
| ogra | yeah | 02:27 |
| juliux | RichEd, one meeting in the morning one in the evening;) | 02:27 |
| RichEd | okay, let me look at the dates coming up ... and play a bit and then make some suggestions | 02:28 |
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| ogra | good | 02:28 |
| RichEd | pips1 is not here for community | 02:28 |
| RichEd | I have nothing else to discuss for today ... and some conference calls coming up ... | 02:29 |
| RichEd | Anyone else with topics / questions ? | 02:29 |
| juliux | yeah | 02:29 |
| === RichEd hands the mic to juliux | ||
| juliux | i want to invite you all the german ubucon;) we will have an extra education track | 02:29 |
| RichEd | great :) | 02:29 |
| RichEd | have you got a fridge article up ? | 02:30 |
| juliux | RichEd, yes | 02:30 |
| RichEd | and did you send a mail to the edubuntu lists ? | 02:30 |
| juliux | RichEd, there will be an other if the programm is online | 02:30 |
| juliux | RichEd, that will come next week | 02:30 |
| RichEd | good ... what sort of audience are you expecting ? size and type of person ? | 02:30 |
| RichEd | and give the dates and locations here in the channel, so it can go in the minutes | 02:31 |
| juliux | we hope betwenn 200 and 500 people | 02:31 |
| juliux | and there will we everything from developer over normal users to newbies | 02:31 |
| RichEd | all linux converts already, or some people looking to jump in ? | 02:31 |
| juliux | date is 20. and 21. october in krefeld/germany | 02:31 |
| juliux | we think some new people | 02:32 |
| juliux | the university will invite local schools | 02:32 |
| RichEd | do you need any more material / presentations / ubuntu stuff ? | 02:32 |
| juliux | we only need talks;) | 02:32 |
| cliebow__ | ttfn | 02:32 |
| RichEd | I have a presentation on Edubuntu reference cases ... if someone is prepared to speak on that, I can help them with the slides ? | 02:33 |
| RichEd | okay ... any other issues for today ? | 02:34 |
| RichEd | ogra ... are you okay to wind up now ? | 02:34 |
| juliux | RichEd, cool | 02:34 |
| ogra | sure :) | 02:34 |
| RichEd | going once ... | 02:34 |
| RichEd | going twice ... | 02:34 |
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| RichEd | BONG ... thanks all | 02:35 |
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| highvoltage | hey rodarvus | 02:55 |
| rodarvus | hey hey | 02:57 |
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| ds500ss | hay | 06:29 |
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| DarkRaven | @schedule | 08:44 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 22 Aug 20:00: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 12:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 15:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 19:00: Technical Board | 08:44 |
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| zul | @schedule montreal | 09:18 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/Montreal: 22 Aug 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 08:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 11:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 11:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 15:00: Technical Board | 09:18 |
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| mr_pouit | @schedule | 10:00 |
| ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 12:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 15:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 19:00: Technical Board | 10:00 |
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| j1mc | hello? | 10:04 |
| vidd | do we have a meeting going on? | 10:04 |
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| vidd | so no meeting? | 10:18 |
| gnomefreak | no not right now | 10:19 |
| vidd | !meeting | 10:19 |
| ubotu | Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | 10:19 |
| vidd | what is the UTC right now? | 10:20 |
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| Pricey | @now | 10:24 |
| ubotu | Current time in Etc/UTC: August 22 2007, 20:24:48 - Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 10:24 |
| Pricey | vidd, ^ | 10:24 |
| vidd | ty | 10:24 |
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| vidd | looks like the meeting is a bust....again | 10:45 |
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| Toadstool | @schedule Los_angeles | 11:04 |
| ubotu | Schedule for America/Los_Angeles: Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 05:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 08:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 08:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 12:00: Technical Board | 11:04 |
| Toadstool | did xubuntu guys give up already? | 11:05 |
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