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hi all ... start in 1 min ... [02:02] ogra, ubotu is not here;) [02:02] ah === highvoltage arrives [02:03] Okay ... here is a test version of the agenda for Edubuntu-Devel ... the old tech part of the 2 hour meeting. [02:03] * [02:03] Technical [02:03] o [02:03] Where are we in the development cycle: [02:03] + [02:03] What was the last deadline ? [02:03] # [02:03] Item [02:03] # [02:03] Date [02:03] + [02:03] What is the next deadline ? [02:03] # [02:03] Item [02:03] # [02:03] Date [02:03] o [02:03] Progress over the last week [02:03] o [02:03] Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline [02:03] o [02:03] Issues needing assistance for the next deadline [02:03] o [02:03] Any Other Items under Artwork [02:03] o [02:04] Any Other Items under Documentation [02:04] o [02:04] Planned Activities for coming week [02:04] let's try this out today and see if it works ... I'll drive the agenda. [02:04] ogra: Where are we in the development cycle ? [02:04] What was the last deadline ? [02:04] Item [02:04] Date [02:04] ?? === highvoltage increases window size [02:04] sorry about the shody paste ... wiki cut & paste adds line breaks :( [02:04] *shoddy [02:05] well, lets see if my paste is better then :) [02:05] == General == [02:05] Done: [02:05] - lots of screensaver fixing for thin client usage (fixed several crashers, no graphics intensive modes being used anymore and no fading) [02:05] - lots of merges and code reviews of ltsp/ldm code (still more ahead) [02:05] - set spec staus where possible (see list below) [02:05] Ahead: [02:05] - TCM needs a lot of love (fixing the userlist functions to get it going with new ldm, easier vnc setup for the chroot/image) [02:05] - one massive bug outstanding to be solved before tribe 6 (bug 121547) [02:05] - tribe 5 planned for this thursday, please help tesing [02:05] - poking around with libflashsupport to get it to multiverse (flash sound on thin clients) [02:06] - get moodle status from moquist (no news yet, he contacted pitti about postgres db creation scripts) [02:06] == Specs == [02:06] Implemented: [02:06] - ltsp-boot-performance [02:06] - ldm-improvements [02:06] - fully-automatic-swapserver [02:06] - ldm-loadbalancing -> vagrant to set status [02:06] Deferred for gutsy+1: [02:06] - ltspfs-virtual-hal-devices [02:06] - gphoto-ltspfs [02:06] - ltsp-update-manager-integration [02:06] - ltsp-management-gui -> (hope to get global settings going at least) [02:06] - ltsp-fat-clients [02:06] - ltsp-local-apps -> sbalneav to set status [02:06] Unknown: [02:06] - ltsp-palm-devices -> sbalneav to report status [02:06] i'll try to maintain such a report in the future, should keep the tech part short [02:07] that's great :) ... will be easy to make minutes & action list out of that ... [02:07] ./topic [02:07] sorry [02:07] right [02:07] zul, ubotu is gone, so no topic updates atm ... [02:07] can we work through my section suggestions ... to see how it fits together ... I still think we need contest as to where we are in the dev cycle (I know I do) :) [02:07] (edubuntu meeting now) [02:07] What was the last deadline ? [02:08] What is the next deadline ? [02:08] no idea ? [02:08] I mean in terms of the dev cycle ... last one was tribe 4 ? [02:08] ogra: I think I have a libflashsupport somewhere if it can help [02:08] a package* [02:08] last deadline was UVF/feature freeze [02:09] gpocentek, i have one ready already, but it was rejected, the one from the EdubuntuFAQ is horribly packaged [02:09] ah ... and explain that in 1 sentence for the technically challenged ... what is UVF ? [02:09] i need to get it going with gnutls instead of libssl etc to get it included [02:09] ogra: ok [02:09] upstresam version freeze [02:09] nothing new can enter main anymore [02:09] :) thanks [02:10] (unless you do a bit of paperwork and get a review) [02:10] and what is the next deadline ... item and date ? [02:10] feture freeze is no new features can be adeed anymore (same exception rules) [02:10] next immediate dealine is tribe5 (thursday) [02:10] * Items needing to be sorted out for the next deadline ? [02:10] next important deadline is beta release [02:11] bug 121547 needs to be solved before next tribe release [02:11] I've got a problem with pbuilder, could you help me ? [02:11] (tribe6, archive is friozen this week until tribe5 is out) [02:11] toutouff, we're in the middle of a meeting and this is no support channel, try #ubuntu-motu [02:12] sorry, wrong channel [02:12] :/ [02:12] ogra: quick summary of the bug ? and what needs to be done to squash it ? [02:12] i need to rewrite the installed bits for ltsp [02:13] and will you be able to manage in time for the deadline ? [02:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/121547 [02:13] at least for beta i can guarantee it ... cant promise it for tribe 6 [02:13] but i'll do my best [02:13] * Issues needing assistance for the next deadline ? [02:13] having two tribe releases instead of one before beta doesnt help here :/ [02:14] can anyone help you with that bug or anything else ? [02:14] not wi5th that bug, no [02:14] i listed actions above where others are required === RichEd scrolls back [02:15] moodle is still in the clouds, no feedback from mmoquist yet apart from him saying he wants to have it ready [02:15] sbalneav and vagrant need to clean up theoir spec statuses [02:15] will you prod them, or will it help if i ask nicely as well :) [02:15] beyond that i get all help i can get from scottie during this bugfixing phase [02:16] i'll go after them, all fine [02:16] ogra: is vagrant doing full-time ltsp now? [02:16] no [02:16] he's doing freegek [02:16] *freegeek [02:16] ah [02:17] he still didnt get his stuff sorted [02:17] * Any Other Items under Artwork [02:18] anyway, thats all from tech side, any other questions ? [02:18] not yet ... i'll need to tackle the artwork package and do some cleanups .. but thats for tribe6 [02:18] Fine ... Jill mailed to say thanks for the feedback in the meeting last week. [02:18] scott is already preparing docs for the new ltsp stuff we have [02:19] I mentioned the abstract concept for the default desktop, and she said she would try to complete some she had started. [02:19] good [02:19] i'm fine with the one we have as "young" flavor [02:19] When is the final freeze for artwork ? [02:19] official and unofficial ;) [02:19] (the logo could be a bit less in the face though) === ogra looks on GutsyReleaseSchedule [02:20] are you talking about her sample ? the logo comment ? [02:20] RichEd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule [02:20] sept 20th is final [02:20] yes [02:20] i'm talking about the sample [02:20] okay ... i'll add that to the comment page she is working off [02:20] the logo is very huge and to much in the face imho [02:21] I wanted to give her samples of all of the old default desktops we shipped, but art.ubuntu.com is out of action [02:21] So I have given her the 2 I have access to ... LTS and feisty [02:21] osdir ususally has a bunch [02:21] osdir ? not familiar with that ? [02:21] LTS was the chalkboard ... [02:21] osdir.com [02:21] okay will check for more ... [02:22] edgy and feisty were the best ones we had yet [02:22] * Any Other Items under Documentation [02:22] as i said, scott is on it and i'll review [02:22] okay ... is that it for tech then ? anyone with questions ? === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@200.174.45.170] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-140-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === xxxxx1 [n=xxxxx1@200.174.45.170] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [02:23] Okay .... some general discussion for people who are interested: [02:23] * how do we get more users at the meeting ? [02:24] I can advertise in the mail list, but I need to get an idea of what topics will pull people in to attend. [02:24] RichEd, for me one meeting per weeks is too much [02:25] RichEd, if it would be only once a month then there could be more topics and more people === cliebow__ [n=cliebow@pool-71-173-92-224.ptldme.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:25] juliux, well, we have different people at the differently scheduled meetings [02:25] juliux: so would you suggest tech every week, and users once a month ? [02:25] RichEd, yes [02:25] If we have a edubuntu-users section of the meeting, we can start some debate / poll topics on the mail list, and then meet to discuss monthly ? [02:25] so keep it down to 1 hour per week for tech & general dev ... === ogra would suggest twice a month [02:25] one in the evening and one in the morning [02:26] ogra, that is also fine [02:26] and we need to find a solution for EC if we do that as well [02:26] that would work for me as well ... every second week ... [02:26] but then we are always at the same time ... no variance for the US people [02:26] RichEd, twice a month with alternating times [02:26] as we have iot now, but skip two a month [02:27] perhaps first meeting of the month ... and do the EC stuff ... and then 3 weeks after that ? [02:27] that will alternate the times ? [02:27] yeah [02:27] RichEd, one meeting in the morning one in the evening;) [02:28] okay, let me look at the dates coming up ... and play a bit and then make some suggestions === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-135.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [02:28] good [02:28] pips1 is not here for community [02:29] I have nothing else to discuss for today ... and some conference calls coming up ... [02:29] Anyone else with topics / questions ? [02:29] yeah === RichEd hands the mic to juliux [02:29] i want to invite you all the german ubucon;) we will have an extra education track [02:29] great :) [02:30] have you got a fridge article up ? [02:30] RichEd, yes [02:30] and did you send a mail to the edubuntu lists ? [02:30] RichEd, there will be an other if the programm is online [02:30] RichEd, that will come next week [02:30] good ... what sort of audience are you expecting ? size and type of person ? [02:31] and give the dates and locations here in the channel, so it can go in the minutes [02:31] we hope betwenn 200 and 500 people [02:31] and there will we everything from developer over normal users to newbies [02:31] all linux converts already, or some people looking to jump in ? [02:31] date is 20. and 21. october in krefeld/germany [02:32] we think some new people [02:32] the university will invite local schools [02:32] do you need any more material / presentations / ubuntu stuff ? [02:32] we only need talks;) [02:32] ttfn [02:33] I have a presentation on Edubuntu reference cases ... if someone is prepared to speak on that, I can help them with the slides ? [02:34] okay ... any other issues for today ? [02:34] ogra ... are you okay to wind up now ? [02:34] RichEd, cool [02:34] sure :) [02:34] going once ... 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http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 23 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 12:00 UTC: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 15:00 UTC: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 19:00 UTC: Technical Board === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:00] @schedule [10:00] Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 12:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 15:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 19:00: Technical Board === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-70-148.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:04] hello? [10:04] do we have a meeting going on? === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-070-145-184-070.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:18] so no meeting? [10:19] no not right now [10:19] !meeting [10:19] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs [10:20] what is the UTC right now? === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-21-70-148.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === avoine [n=avoine@69.70.0.36] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:24] @now [10:24] Current time in Etc/UTC: August 22 2007, 20:24:48 - Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers [10:24] vidd, ^ [10:24] ty === boggle [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tck [n=tck@213-202-140-94.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:45] looks like the meeting is a bust....again === humanbeing__ [n=humanbei@dslb-082-083-017-092.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === avoine [n=avoine@69.70.0.36] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:04] @schedule Los_angeles [11:04] Schedule for America/Los_Angeles: Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 08:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 05:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 08:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 08:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 12:00: Technical Board [11:05] did xubuntu guys give up already? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === coreymon77 [n=coreymon@unaffiliated/coreymon77] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.106.1] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tck [n=tck@213-202-140-94.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === tehk [n=tehk@c-69-249-157-157.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === astro76 [n=james@unaffiliated/astro76] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 23 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 12:00 UTC: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 15:00 UTC: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 19:00 UTC: Technical Board | 29 Aug 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu