[09:48] <asac> ola
[10:23] <Ubulette> hi
[10:23] <Ubulette> asac, i've started to work on xulrunner.
[10:24] <asac> great
[10:24] <Ubulette> it's based on 1.8.1.6-1 from Debian but if you have a bzr/svn/git/whatever somewhere, please tell me
[10:25] <asac> Ubulette: please take care that you get the diffs we currently carry in ubuntu 1.8.1.4 over to it
[10:25] <asac> ... e.g. do the merge
[10:25] <Ubulette> yep
[10:26] <asac> Ubulette: anyway ... maybe it would be worth to consider how upstreams idea about packaging this is
[10:26] <Ubulette> we should discuss the "mozilla" vs "debian" way.
[10:26] <Ubulette> I'll email you a proposal
[10:26] <Ubulette> i don't have time right now.
[10:27] <asac> sure
[10:27] <Ubulette> yep, that's my plan
[10:27] <asac> take your time ... you already did a lot in the last week(s)
[10:28] <Ubulette> :)
[10:30] <Ubulette> i'm out, see you.
[10:35] <shirish> _Ubulette: you there m8?
[10:53] <asac> shirish: no he had to leave
[10:57] <shirish> asac: ok cool, I just wanted him to know that yesterday's firefox-trunk has issues with downloading, it segfaults when you try to download stuff.
[10:58] <shirish> asac: btw do you also have your own mini-repository or do you take stuff from Ubulette or he takes the new trunk stuff from you?
[11:00] <Bernardo> good morning
[11:15] <asac> Bernardo: morning
[11:15] <asac> hmm shirish is gone
[11:18] <jeromeg> hello
[11:18] <jeromeg> asac : could you have a look at bug 131743 ?
[11:18] <jeromeg> it could be a problem with firefox
[11:19] <jeromeg> liferea-add-feed works perfectly with epiphany or in command line
[11:19] <jeromeg> and used to work with firefox in feisty
[11:25] <asac> bug 131743
[11:25] <asac> hmm ubotu is dead
[11:26] <asac> jeromeg: how do you set the external application?
[11:26] <jeromeg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/131743
[11:27] <jeromeg> asac : let's do an example
[11:27] <jeromeg> go to the planet ubuntu page
[11:27] <jeromeg> on the adress bar click on the rss icon
[11:27] <jeromeg> the yellow "thing" to set the external application appears
[11:28] <jeromeg> then I browse to set the external application to liferea-add-feed
[11:28] <jeromeg> click ok
[11:28] <jeromeg> and nothing happens
[11:29] <jeromeg> (of course cilck suscribe now before saying that nothing happens)
[11:30] <asac> i don't see a yellow thing
[11:31] <asac> please show a screenshot
[11:31] <jeromeg> ok
[11:31] <jeromeg> thing is not very percise :)
[11:31] <jeromeg> *precise
[11:31] <asac> well for me it works
[11:31] <jeromeg> it's a frame on top of the feed
[11:31] <asac> http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml
[11:31] <jeromeg> yep
[11:32] <asac> then i use "susbribe to feed using ... Other Application ...
[11:32] <jeromeg> yes
[11:32] <asac> then i go to /usr/bin/ and select lifearea-add-feed
[11:32] <asac> works
[11:32] <jeromeg> and liferea-add-feed
[11:32] <jeromeg> hu?
[11:32] <asac> just works
[11:32] <jeromeg> with gutsy ?
[11:32] <asac> it was added to my lifearea
[11:32] <asac> no ;)
[11:32] <jeromeg> ahhhh :)
[11:32] <jeromeg> I perfer this :)
[11:33] <jeromeg> try with gutsy and you will see
[11:33] <asac> yes ... can you ping me later today?
[11:33] <asac> i have to ramp up my gutsy box, but i am currently doing something else :)
[11:33] <jeromeg> if you want, no problem
[11:33] <asac> cool
[11:33] <asac> in 3 hours or so
[11:34] <jeromeg> ok
[12:24] <Jazzva> Hello :)...
[01:01] <asac> hi
[01:01] <asac> Bernardo: there?
[01:19] <Jazzva> Hello, asac :)
[01:19] <asac> Jazzva: how is your study going?
[01:20] <Jazzva> Hmm... so far so good :). Well, unless we don't talk about analog electronics exam... But it's not obligatory for me at the moment.
[01:21] <Jazzva> For the second exam... well, I knew the subject pretty much  good before, but made few writing mistakes, which was bad. I hope I learned how not to make them :).
[01:23] <Jazzva> I'm here just to see and do two or three bugs for the Ubuntu Bug day :). BTW, I think I know why gnome-voice-control doesn't start, just have to check it, which will probably be after saturday.
[01:23] <Jazzva> How's your work going?
[02:03] <asac> lots of work ... and little time ;)
[02:03] <asac> i have an appoint ment now ... so will be gone for 1.5-2h
[02:05] <Jazzva> Have fun ;)...
[02:06] <Jazzva> I'll probably be away for the rest of the afternoon and studying...
[03:17] <jeromeg> asac : you asked me to ping you
[03:30] <Jazzva> Off for some time... Have fun.
[03:35] <Jazzva|away> jeromeg: asac is off for the appointment, should be back in the next 15-20 minutes.
[03:37] <jeromeg> Jazzva|away: thx
[03:37] <Jazzva|away> No prob :)...
[03:46] <asac> back
[03:46] <asac> jeromeg: in what context?
[03:46] <jeromeg> asac: the liferea bug
[03:47] <jeromeg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/131743
[03:47] <asac> a ... see how slippy my memory is
[03:47] <jeromeg> :)
[03:58] <asac> jeromeg: ok let me move to my other system
[04:00] <asac_the_2nd> ok
[04:00] <jeromeg> lol
[04:00] <jeromeg> you remember how to reproduce ?
[04:00] <asac_the_2nd> yes
[04:01] <jeromeg> ok
[04:02] <asac_the_2nd> ok running liferea-add-feed http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml from command line works
[04:04] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: yep and this fonctionnality works in epiphany ( with an extension)
[04:04] <jeromeg> i reported upstream (liferea) but I wanted to be sure it's not a problem with firefox
[04:04] <jeromeg> do you know another feed agregator we can test ?
[04:23] <asac_the_2nd> jeromeg: can you please try with upstream binary ffox release?
[04:25] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: where can I find it ?
[04:27] <asac_the_2nd> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub
[04:27] <asac_the_2nd> from there browse down
[04:27] <asac_the_2nd> firefox / releases ... version
[04:27] <asac_the_2nd> i doubt that its an upstream bug
[04:28] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: ok I'm launching my VM
[04:28] <asac_the_2nd> you can just download unpack ... then run
[04:28] <asac_the_2nd> you need old libstdc++5 installed
[04:30] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: ok i'm downloading it
[04:30] <jeromeg> 30 kb/s ...
[04:31] <asac_the_2nd> jeromeg: its probably not an upstream bug ... if you don't see it there, please close it as invalid
[04:31] <asac_the_2nd> e.g. we still carry debian/patches/flat-chrome-fix.patch ... which was needed in feisty as we shipped firefox with (unsupported) flat chrome
[04:32] <asac_the_2nd> i think that patch now comes back with a bug
[04:32] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: so it must be a firefox problem ?
[04:32] <jeromeg> and not liferea ?
[04:33] <asac_the_2nd> its definityl a firefox (ubuntu) bug
[04:33] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: ok thx, I will warn upstream
[04:33] <asac_the_2nd> you see the errors in Tools -> Error Console
[04:33] <asac_the_2nd> where is the upstream bug?
[04:33] <asac_the_2nd> at mozilla?
[04:34] <jeromeg> no no, liferea
[04:34] <asac_the_2nd> ah ok ... then its not that bad :)
[04:34] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: is it ok to upgrade to 2.6.22.10, does anybody know? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34653/
[04:35] <asac_the_2nd> no idea ... this box did refuse to upgrade the kernel a few hours ago
[04:35] <asac_the_2nd> so maybe its impossible ;)
[04:36] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: better as on motu ... and let me know :)
[04:36] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: yup, you are right, Hobbsee just confirmed it couple of mins. ago, the kernel is not full done yet
[04:36] <asac_the_2nd> k
[04:40] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: ok you were right, it's not in upstream
[04:40] <asac_the_2nd> ok , please assign it to firefox then
[04:40] <asac_the_2nd> or better add firefox target so liferea users find it
[04:40] <asac_the_2nd> still
[04:41] <asac_the_2nd> and give me bugid
[04:41] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: ok
[04:42] <asac_the_2nd> jeromeg: do you know how to build a package so you can test if it goes away when we drop this patch?
[04:42] <asac_the_2nd> or do i need to provide test packages?
[04:43] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: yep I will do it
[04:43] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: but not now my granma arrived :)
[04:43] <asac_the_2nd> jeromeg: just apt-get source firefox; apt-get build-dep firefox
[04:44] <jeromeg> asac_the_2nd: yep yep I know it's ok
[04:44] <asac_the_2nd> then comment out the flat-chrome patch in debian/patches/series
[04:44] <asac_the_2nd> ah ok
[04:44] <jeromeg> in one or two hours
[04:44] <jeromeg> see you
[04:44] <asac_the_2nd> jeromeg: thanks ... have fun with your granma
[04:44] <asac_the_2nd> cu
[04:44] <jeromeg> :)
[05:10] <jeromeg> asac : ok I will start to build the package
[05:10] <jeromeg> the bug id : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/131743
[05:21] <jeromeg> asac_ : what patch should I remove ?
[05:21] <jeromeg> I can't remember
[06:05] <jeromeg> asac : are you here ?
[06:09] <asac> yes
[06:09] <asac> though i had some connection outage
[06:11] <jeromeg> ojk
[06:11] <jeromeg> what was the patch concerning the firefox/liferea bug ?
[06:21] <asac> flat-chrome-feed.patch
[06:21] <asac> or something like that
[06:21] <asac> search for feed in series
[06:21] <asac> should be only one match
[06:21] <asac> jeromeg: ^
[06:22] <jeromeg> asac: ok it's what I had thought, it has been building for a long time...
[06:22] <jeromeg> never build something so long
[06:23] <asac> what sys spec?
[06:26] <jeromeg> amd athlon 3200 +
[06:26] <asac> mem?
[06:26] <jeromeg> 1G
[06:26] <asac> ok ... maybe 1h ?
[06:27] <jeromeg> ouch
[06:27] <asac> might depend on your disks
[06:27] <jeromeg> ok
[06:27] <asac> maybe less ... maybe longer
[06:27] <jeromeg> and you compile it often ?
[06:28] <asac> yes ... for me it takes a little less than 30 minutes if i use 2 cores
[06:28] <asac> but i usually don't build to test something
[06:28] <asac> to test i just build incrementally
[06:28] <asac> either just a make; make install if i change upstream code ... or dh_install et al to see if other changes are good
[06:29] <asac> for upstream code changes i usually test in build-tree/mozilla/dist/bin
[06:29] <asac> so i don't build packages at all ... but just start ./firefox there
[06:29] <jeromeg> ah ok
[06:30] <asac> but anyway ... i build 5 or more mozilla apps regularly in ubuntu and for security releases even all debian stuff et al ... so ;) its painful still
[06:32] <jeromeg> yep, poor kernel devs :)
[07:01] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: have you been able to upgrade the kernel? I'm upgrading it now
[07:01] <shirish> ;)
[07:02] <asac> no i am not really after getting a kernel upgrade :) ... what is new?
[07:06] <jeromeg> asac : just realized I didn't run debuild -S -sa ...
[07:07] <shirish> asac: I haven't yet looked at the upgrade notes, what I'm looking forward to is a kernel build so debugging can begin again, 4 months & not once I could give any good debugging stuff :(
[07:08] <shirish> scratch the good
[07:08] <jeromeg> asac : I will do that tomorrow
[07:10] <shirish> bbiaf
[07:56] <Ubulette> hi
[08:02] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 373911
[08:02] <Ubulette> hmm, didn't know that some bugs were private
[08:23] <shirish> back
[08:23] <shirish> and I see Ubulette has returned
[08:23] <shirish> Ubulette: hi ;)
[08:25] <shirish> Ubulette: there is/was an issue with firefox-trunk yesterday, downloading any file would result in a crash/segmentation fault.
[08:26] <Ubulette> I've modified my bot to build dbgsym ddebs
[08:26] <Ubulette> don't know if it worked yet
[08:27] <shirish> Ubulette: that's super
[08:28] <shirish> Ubulette: I just updated the archive & it doesn't show dbgsym ddebs as of yet :(
[08:28] <Ubulette> they're build but not pushed yet
[08:29] <shirish> Ubulette: ah ok, in that case cool enough, most probably with tomorrow's build perhaps, or are you going to start with 2007082119
[08:33] <Ubulette> hmm, trunk failed to build today, not sure of the reason yet, maybe my dbgsym patch.
[08:34] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: you found something that might cause  dbgsym to be borked?
[08:35] <asac_the_2nd> maybe it has something todo with the sequence dh_strip is run against the bin packages?
[08:35] <Ubulette> my bot produces logs, but not this time.. strange as it's the 1st time in months
[08:35] <shirish> Ubulette: i was wondering, as yesterday it was up about an hr. earlier.
[08:36] <Ubulette> I have to wait for the email at the end of the batch to have clues..
[08:36] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: partly my fault perhaps, I asked Ubulette to make the -dbgsym packages
[08:36] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: you remember out of your head if -dev package is debbed-up before the plain binary paackage?
[08:37] <asac_the_2nd> well ... if he hasn't found the reason why dbg symbols go to wrong package then they will be pretty useless
[08:37] <Ubulette> shirish, cvs20070821t1129 represent the date and time (2007/08/21 11:29) of the last commit on mozilla bonsai
[08:38] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: do you build on every commit?
[08:38] <Ubulette> no
[08:38] <asac_the_2nd> ;)
[08:38] <Ubulette> god no
[08:38] <asac_the_2nd> who knows ... maybe your systems are idle otherwise :)
[08:38] <Ubulette> time is not mine, it's theirs
[08:39] <asac_the_2nd> ah
[08:39] <shirish> Ubulette: thanx for clearing up the 1129, I was able to pick up till the date but not the time
[08:39] <Ubulette> it did that so it's easy to see what inside looking at bonsai
[08:40] <Ubulette> as the stupid cvs has no revision number
[08:41] <Ubulette> hm, i have several ddebs for other packages.. only trunk failed
[08:41] <Ubulette> interesting
[08:41] <shirish> Ubulette: they should update/upgrade to svn, as I understand svn has revision numbers.
[08:42] <Ubulette> or git/bzr/hg or whatever.. everything but not cvs
[08:43] <Ubulette> branching into cvs is horrible
[08:43] <shirish> Ubulette: git & bzr I know/heard what's hg?
[08:43] <Ubulette> hg = mercurial
[08:44] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: maybe try to export from hg.mozilla.org
[08:44] <Ubulette> refering to chemistry
[08:44] <asac_the_2nd> if you have luck it just works
[08:44] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: Stripping package directory...
[08:44] <asac_the_2nd> thats what i see in build log
[08:44] <asac_the_2nd> probably --disable-strip --disable-strip-libs is not honoured in new make install
[08:45] <asac_the_2nd> Linking .xpt files...
[08:45] <asac_the_2nd> [browser] 
[08:45] <asac_the_2nd> Linking .xpt files completed.
[08:45] <asac_the_2nd> Stripping package directory...
[08:45] <asac_the_2nd> thats a bit more context ...
[08:45] <asac_the_2nd> yeah its really in make install
[08:46] <asac_the_2nd> so that is the reason ... now we just need a fix ;)
[08:46] <shirish> Ubulette: then how do you know to pick up the daily build or is really random build?
[08:47] <Ubulette> ?
[08:48] <Ubulette> my build has nothing to do with mozilla's daily builds
[08:48] <asac_the_2nd> i thought its our build+
[08:48] <Ubulette> i fetch cvs daily and build that using the rules in bzr trunk
[08:48] <asac_the_2nd> which is broken in regards to dbgsym creation
[08:49] <shirish> apologies gentlemen, I was under the impression that we are just syncing with mozilla's daily build
[08:49] <Ubulette> asac_the_2nd, maybe but I'll have a clue once i get the email ;)
[08:49] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: have you forgotten?
[08:49] <shirish> i do know that they have an hourly build also
[08:49] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: they are ... don't wait for the mail ;)
[08:50] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: you can look at paradiso build log ... http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8886883/buildlog_ubuntu-gutsy-i386.firefox-granparadiso_3.0%7Ealpha7-0ubuntu6_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[08:50] <asac_the_2nd> there it reads what i pasted above
[08:50] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: also I was not trying to emphasize or say who's build it is or meant anything like that, I'm just looking to see what's new cooking & that's that.
[08:51] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: i don't put anything in question here
[08:51] <asac_the_2nd> havin regular builds is good ... we detect things earlier and can react faster
[08:53] <Ubulette> asac_the_2nd, yes, i remember our -dbg is bad, but ddeb are not based on -dbg but on dh_strip
[08:54] <asac> Ubulette: right ... but dbgsym are borked as well
[08:55] <asac> for the veriy same reason
[08:55] <asac> we found that so you don't have to wait for them :)
[08:55] <asac> read above for the reason ;)
[08:55] <asac> new mozilla install just doesn't obey --disable-strip apparently
[08:57] <Ubulette> asac, well, -dbg needs work for sure. but i'm also wondering why my build aborted so abruptly (that's why I'm waiting for the email of the bot).. but that's my problem ;)
[08:58] <Ubulette> hmm, just found another bug in trunk
[08:58] <Ubulette> hi gnomefreak !!
[08:58] <gnomefreak> ok i think i have a steeady connection now :(
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: your gonna find alot of them ;)
[08:58] <gnomefreak> hi Ubulette
[08:58] <Ubulette> could anyone try http://paris1900.lartnouveau.com/cartes_postales_anciennes/la_crue_de_1910.htm on trunk / gp ?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> trying
[08:59] <gnomefreak> did we fix the profile issue yet?
[08:59] <Ubulette> there's a syntax error in the page but FF2 is okay with it, not FF3
[09:00] <gnomefreak> blank page?
[09:00] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, profile issue ? we create a different profile now (importing FF2 one)
[09:00] <Ubulette> yep, FF3 shows a blank page
[09:00] <gnomefreak> ok just as long as its not overwriting ff2's
[09:00] <gnomefreak> trying iceape
[09:01] <gnomefreak> works in icepae
[09:01] <gnomefreak> icepae
[09:01] <gnomefreak> oh screw it you know what i mean
[09:02] <Ubulette> asac, lol, my build failed because i was using my own bzr branh, which i renamed yesterday
[09:02] <Ubulette> so it failed at the beginning :)
[09:03] <Ubulette> (i knew the email would help)
[09:03] <asac> hi gnomefreak
[09:03] <gnomefreak> hi asac
[09:03] <asac> Ubulette: i think i will take a look
[09:03] <asac> wait a second
[09:03] <Ubulette> hmm, ftbs in totem too. gasp
[09:04] <Ubulette> asac, btw, i haven't touched -dbg, afair
[09:06] <asac> Ubulette: read again what i wrote ;)
[09:06] <asac> it has nothing to do with you
[09:06] <asac> or your work :)
[09:06] <Ubulette> it was working with a5, no ?
[09:07] <asac> yes .... read what i wrote ... the new make install patch is ignorant
[09:07] <asac> it just doesn't honour --disable-strip
[09:07] <Ubulette> oh,really ?
[09:07] <asac> yes ... look at what i pasted above ;)
[09:08] <asac> 20:45 < asac_the_2nd> Linking .xpt files...
[09:08] <asac> 20:45 < asac_the_2nd> [browser] 
[09:08] <asac> 20:45 < asac_the_2nd> Linking .xpt files completed.
[09:08] <asac> 20:45 < asac_the_2nd> Stripping package directory...
[09:08] <asac>                       ^^^
[09:08] <Ubulette> yep
[09:09] <asac> and its definitly the output of the new make install
[09:09] <asac> i am currently extracting trunk tarball ... lets see ... maybe its something trivial
[09:11] <Ubulette> i have it here, looking (damn tracker is useless)
[09:11] <asac> hmm
[09:11] <asac> ifndef PKG_SKIP_STRIP
[09:11] <asac> @echo "Stripping package directory..."
[09:11] <asac> hmm
[09:12] <asac> why the hell is PKG_SKIP_STRIP not on?
[09:12] <asac> another config option?
[09:15] <Ubulette> you sure ?
[09:15] <Ubulette> it's a find removing files, not a strip of binaries
[09:15] <Ubulette> oh, lol, no
[09:15] <Ubulette> oops
[09:18] <asac> Ubulette: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/patches/installer_shouldnt_skip_strip_if_disable_strip_configured
[09:18] <hjmf_> hi all
[09:18] <asac> Ubulette: try that
[09:19] <Ubulette> you just did it ?
[09:19] <asac> yes
[09:19] <asac> should be the proper place
[09:20] <asac> otherwise even more central in rules
[09:20] <asac> rules.mk
[09:20] <asac> :)
[09:20] <asac> i mean
[09:20] <gnomefreak> asac: thunderbird now default inswtall in gutsy?
[09:20] <gnomefreak> install*
[09:21] <asac> Ubulette: i think there is a generic install target ... you could set the PKG_SKIP_STRIP in case ENABLE_STRIP isn't set there to get a healing for all apps
[09:21] <asac> gnomefreak: why do you think?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> asac: because someone said on clean feisty update-manager wanted to install thunderbird
[09:22] <asac> haven't heard of that
[09:22] <asac> maybe some universe package recommends thunderbird?
[09:23] <asac> (or main package) ... can't know
[09:23] <gnomefreak> asac: i think he had something else he installed but hes gone now
[09:25] <shirish> IIRC there is something in dpkg some switch which tells if any package is a dependancy of something else. (think its called reverse dependancy or something like that)
[09:25] <asac> apt-cache rdepends
[09:27] <shirish> yup that was it, apt-cache rdepends used it, looked at it, forgot it
[09:30] <gnomefreak> asac: :(
[09:30] <gnomefreak> asac: 15:28 <            kiba >  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you  should
[09:30] <gnomefreak> 15:28 <            kiba >  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[09:31] <gnomefreak> mozilla-gnash-plugin
[09:31] <gnomefreak> again no issues here with it
[09:31] <shirish> Ubulette: that reminds me you guys have mozilla-gnash-plugin too, in your repository?
[09:31] <asac> yeah ... not my fault ... pygi pushed an update through a MOTU without asking ... actually it should be fixed here
[09:32] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[09:33] <asac> shirish: maybe it just works?
[09:33] <asac> shirish: can you try with paradiso?
[09:33] <Ubulette> shirish, i don't package that
[09:33] <Ubulette> (i'm not even using it :p)
[09:35] <shirish> asac: sure can do although haven't installed it, lemme see.
[09:35] <asac> Ubulette: ok for now it should work with the patch above ... the real patch should be a bit different ... e.g. just for install target
[09:35] <asac> as we still want to strip in package: target
[09:35] <asac> but for our package its ok
[09:35] <asac> its just that the patch cannot go upstream that way
[09:35] <gnomefreak> damn my chroots keep getting fucked up everytime dchroot gets updated
[09:36] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah ... that happens if you stay away too long ;)
[09:36] <Ubulette> asac, i've integrated your patch as tentative into my branch and i'll build it in a moment.. just patching to move the ddebs in the repo
[09:36] <gnomefreak> ;)
[09:37] <hjmf_> gnomefreak: use schroot it hasn't give me any problem
[09:37] <asac> Ubulette: its fine for us ... if you confirm that the ddebs have proper size afterwards i want to push it until we have the real patch
[09:37] <Ubulette> ok, so building..
[09:38] <asac> cool
[09:38] <asac> let me know ;)
[09:38] <Ubulette> sure
[09:38] <Ubulette> "New Flash Player beta features better video and performance. Adobe has released a beta version of Flash Player 9 Update 3 (code name Moviestar) for Linux, Windows and Mac OS X."
[09:38] <Ubulette> yeah i know, you don't care
[09:38] <Ubulette> non free stuff
[09:38] <asac> beta are always full crashers ... personally i won't touch them ;)
[09:39] <asac> (maybe this one is different though)
[09:39] <shirish> Ubulette: also I have had an awful time with flash-player, also all those crash reports lying there :(
[09:40] <Ubulette> just had cpu going over the roof with video.. this one seems to have improved that
[09:40] <Ubulette> but i haven't tried
[09:40] <Ubulette> and will problably wont
[09:41] <shirish> Ubulette: what are your system specs?
[09:41] <Ubulette> dual core 2
[09:41] <Ubulette> dont remember which one
[09:42] <Ubulette> with nvidia GS7600
[09:42] <shirish> cool, me on aging 1.8ghz don't remember also which one
[09:42] <shirish> intel 845 GE/GV chipset 8 mb VRAM integrated
[09:42] <Ubulette> my previous pc was a P2 450.. still in 2007
[09:43] <Ubulette> was enough for me, until HDTV..
[09:43] <shirish> cool
[09:43] <Ubulette> asac, any progress with PPA ?
[09:44] <shirish> so I'm guessing I can creak out a yr. or 2 more out of this fella, touchwood.
[09:45] <Ubulette> mine did 1998-2007 in debian unstable. no problem. it's still alive in my basement ;)
[09:45] <shirish> wow , cool
[09:45] <shirish> asac: you wanted me to check out gnash 0.8.1~trunk.070802-0ubuntu4
[09:45] <Ubulette> just added ram and disks and a 5.1 sound card during all those years
[09:46] <hjmf_> asac: here is a list of plugins edited with Xb-Npp-xxx that need to be sponsored: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~hmontoliu/+reportedbugs?field.searchtext=Xb-Npp-xxx
[09:46] <asac_the_2nd> well ... helping on mozilla-trunk packaging on P2 450 would not have been possible ;)
[09:46] <hjmf_> asac: so far, the plugins already processed (though some still to be sponsored) are flashplugin-nonfree, gcjwebplugin, gxineplugin, mozilla-helix-player, mozilla-mplayer, mozilla-openoffice.org, mozilla-plugin-gnash, mozilla-plugin-vlc, mozplugger, sun-java5-plugin, sun-java6-plugin, totem-mozilla, xine-plugin
[09:46] <hjmf_> asac: tomorrow when I'll get home, I'll look for more (but probably there shouldn't be much more)
[09:47] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf_: i wonder what openoffice plugin does?
[09:47] <asac_the_2nd> have you tried it?
[09:47] <hjmf_> yep, seems to open oo files
[09:47] <gnomefreak> thats what it should do :)
[09:47] <hjmf_> :)
[09:47] <asac_the_2nd> otherwise thanks for the work, though we probably don't want mozplugger ... unless it depends on all packages needed to serve the mime-types it claims to serve :)
[09:47] <hjmf_> k
[09:48] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: just display ... or an embedded editor?
[09:48] <hjmf_> let me check it again...
[09:48] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: do you have an idea which plugins are still missing?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> we dont have a mozilla editor atm
[09:49] <hjmf_> asac_the_2nd: I cant think of any other atm
[09:49] <hjmf_> but tomorrow I'll dig into it
[09:49] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: well .. to ooo plugin in mozilla a mozilla editor is an interesting perspective :)
[09:49] <gnomefreak> it may allow you to edit it on firefox but pretty much what everyone was looking for in it was to intergrate mozilla and OO.o to better play with eachother
[09:49] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: pretty cool ... many thanks ... i will upload those when freeze is over
[09:50] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: we will probably get mozilla-swfdec as well
[09:50] <hjmf_> k asac :)
[09:50] <asac_the_2nd> or swfdec-mozilla
[09:50] <hjmf_> it is swfdec-mozilla
[09:50] <Ubulette> hmm, cool, new trunk is now able to print to pdfs
[09:51] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: is that package done already?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> should brb as long as net connetion plays nicely
[09:51] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: if not at best don't do for a few days ... we will get a new source package
[09:53] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: are you saying that swfdec-mozilla will get a new source package?
[09:53] <asac_the_2nd> well ... maybe :)
[09:53] <asac_the_2nd> its not yet decided ... when freeze is over i will have come to a decision ;)
[09:54] <hjmf_> asac_the_2nd: let me five minutes and swfdec-mozilla will be done
[09:55] <asac_the_2nd> we will probably stuff all swfdec stuff into a single source package and don't put swfdec libs to $lib, but to $pkglibdir instead ... because upstream atm doesn't care for abi tracking
[09:55] <asac_the_2nd> hjmf: yes ... will let you know :)
[09:55] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: If I understand correctly then the freeze will remain now till 7.10 releases, is that correct or would it be just till the tribe 5 cycle?
[09:56] <asac_the_2nd> i am speaking of the tribe-5 archive freeze
[09:56] <asac_the_2nd> i think it will open up again
[09:56] <asac_the_2nd> and if not, we can get exceptions for things that are reasonable and well prepared
[09:57] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: then its cool ;) I have been waiting to see what the swfdec thing is all about ;)
[09:57] <asac_the_2nd> me too
[09:58] <hjmf_> @schedule
[09:58] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: Xubuntu Developers | 23 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 24 Aug 12:00: MOTU Team | 27 Aug 15:00: Screencast Team | 28 Aug 15:00: Ubuntu Server Team meeting | 28 Aug 19:00: Technical Board
[09:59] <hjmf_> are we going to have any meeting soon?
[09:59] <asac_the_2nd> no idea if we need one ... we should add Ubulette to the mozillateam however
[09:59] <gnomefreak> hjmf_: yeah ill work on setting one up
[09:59] <asac_the_2nd> don't know if we need a formal vote for that
[09:59] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: have her apply
[10:00] <Ubulette> i'm not
[10:00] <hjmf_> gnomefreak: cool, I've been too long away from here, so it will be cool to see how things are now
[10:00] <gnomefreak> she has done enough with ff3 i wouldnt think a vote is that important unless someone disagrees
[10:00] <gnomefreak> hjmf_: me too
[10:00] <hjmf_> :)
[10:00] <gnomefreak> sorry Ubulette i said her not thinking
[10:00] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: s/she/he/
[10:00] <Ubulette> :)
[10:01] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: what did they give you in hospital?
[10:01] <asac_the_2nd> must have been pretty cool drugs
[10:01] <asac_the_2nd> :-P
[10:01] <gnomefreak> they were :) but whatever it was (not sure of name) didnt last very long
[10:01] <hjmf_> :)
[10:01] <shirish> I can't make sense of names so doesn't really matter, just have to be careful, that's all.
[10:02] <hjmf_> good night all
[10:02] <asac_the_2nd> i think in linux communities its pretty safe to say he unless you know she is she
[10:02] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: true
[10:02] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: i think you can just add ... without application
[10:02] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: whats your new launchpad id?
[10:02] <Ubulette> fta
[10:02] <gnomefreak> k
[10:03] <shirish> Ubulette: firefox-trunk segfaulted again on another extension, this means the yesterday's segfaults that I kept having were with all extensions.
[10:04] <gnomefreak> doner
[10:04] <gnomefreak> -r
[10:04] <Ubulette> shirish, not cool
[10:04] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, cool
[10:04] <Ubulette> :)
[10:04] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: congrats ;) ... feel free to push to mt branches directly
[10:05] <Ubulette> gnomefreak, got the confirmation by email
[10:05] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette:  personally i don't push experimental things there for those packages for which that branch is the release branch
[10:05] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: I installed the gnash plugin, but it doesn't show up in about:plugins
[10:05] <shirish> "about: plugins
[10:05] <gnomefreak> afaik right now most are hacked to work with ff3 but may not be safe
[10:06] <gnomefreak> shirish: did you removve flashplugin-nonfree?
[10:06] <shirish> gnomefreak: didn't have it in the first place
[10:07] <shirish> gnomefreak: in the sense, not installed
[10:07] <gnomefreak> i only show 2 plugins in ff3
[10:07] <Ubulette> asac, i plan to redo xul the mozilla way, or closer than today at least, then see if nss/nspr still make sense the way they now
[10:07] <Ubulette> then move trunk to system libxul/nss/nspr
[10:08] <shirish> gnomefreak: are you using granparadiso or trunk?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> right this sec gp
[10:08] <gnomefreak> soon to be neither
[10:09] <gnomefreak> LMAO
[10:09] <gnomefreak>     File name: libflashplayer.so
[10:09] <gnomefreak>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 r48
[10:09] <gnomefreak> is in gp
[10:09] <shirish> gnomefreak: mine shows up number of plugins, but not gnash
[10:09] <gnomefreak> flashplugin-nonfree: Installed: (none)
[10:09] <gnomefreak> how the hell does that happen
[10:10] <shirish> shirish@Mugglewille:~$ dpkg -l mozilla-plugin-gnash
[10:10] <shirish> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[10:10] <shirish> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend
[10:10] <shirish> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[10:10] <shirish> ||/ Name                  Version               Description
[10:10] <shirish> +++-[10:10] <shirish> ii  mozilla-plugin-gnash  0.8.1~trunk.070802-0u free Flash movie player - Plugin for Mozilla and derivatives
[10:10] <shirish> so its installed but nothing shows up in plugins :(
[10:11] <gnomefreak> shirish: does it show libflash.so in about:plugins
[10:11] <gnomefreak> libflashplayer.so
[10:11] <gnomefreak> to be exact
[10:11] <shirish> in the sense of gnash, other plugins such as mplayer, totem,
[10:11] <shirish> are there.
[10:11] <shirish> gnomefreak: hol don
[10:12] <gnomefreak> as soon as i find out what was done to profile and i find it i guess i will have to add the .so files by hand
[10:13] <shirish> gnomefreak: in about: plugins there is no libflashplayer.so , in fact there is no libflash or anything, using find
[10:13] <gnomefreak> shirish: my gnash is showing up as libflashplayer.so
[10:13] <gnomefreak> not real sure why ive been away for a while
[10:13] <shirish> lol, and it shows up nothing in mine, lemme see in firefox
[10:14] <gnomefreak> in ff2 it also shows up as libflashplayer.so
[10:14] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: why is this like this
[10:15] <shirish> gnomefreak: it also doesn't show up in ff2 :(
[10:15] <gnomefreak> maybe because i had flash at one time and switched to gnash after removing flash and it doesnt know any better
[10:18] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: i can see libgnashplugin.so in /usr/lib/gnash
[10:19] <Ubulette> shirish, do you also have issues with copy/paste of urls in trunk ?
[10:19] <shirish> Ubulette: what do you mean? Can you extrapolate?
[10:20] <Ubulette> double click the url bar (to copy it), then middle click somewhere else (a term or an editor) to paste it.
[10:21] <Ubulette> for me, the pasted text is not what i copied, but the previous thing in the buffer
[10:21] <shirish> Ubulette: its working fine here.
[10:22] <shirish> Ubulette: its the same build, or a new build?
[10:22] <shirish> 21 1:19 ?
[10:22] <Ubulette> it's been doing that since i daily build trunk
[10:23] <shirish> no idea m8
[10:24] <shirish> Ubulette: Is the new build ready or it still has some time to go?
[10:24] <Ubulette> still compiling
[10:24] <Ubulette> that's a huge beast
[10:25] <shirish> Ubulette: btw congratulations for being able to upload stuff, guess you are also now a MOTU
[10:25] <shirish> ;)
[10:25] <Ubulette> am i ?
[10:25] <Ubulette> i can push in bzr, not sure for the rest
[10:26] <shirish> Ubulette: ah ok, but still its cool ;)
[10:27] <Jazzva> Hmm... Wasn't reading. Congrats, Ubulette :)...
[10:27] <Ubulette> thx
[10:27] <shirish> Ubulette: how much time does the compiling take?
[10:28] <shirish> Ubulette: If I understand correctly you make only i386 builds or also AMD stuff or all the architectures?
[10:28] <Ubulette> 45min at home, 50~55 for the bot
[10:28] <shirish> ok cool
[10:28] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: did you manage to link gnash into paradiso/trunk plugins forlder?
[10:28] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: nope, how do I link them?
[10:28] <Ubulette> shirish, my mini repo is i386 only. no other h/w there
[10:29] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: I just installed gnash & gnash-mozilla-plugin, shouldn't that have got linked by itself.
[10:29] <asac_the_2nd> ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-plugin-gnas*/*.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[10:29] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: only to firefox 2 directory
[10:29] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: not for paradiso yet ... mostly because i don't know if it will crash paradiso
[10:30] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: sorry
[10:30] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: gnash crashing gp?
[10:30] <asac_the_2nd> its
[10:30] <asac_the_2nd> ln -s /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[10:31] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: might be the case ... yes ... but i don't know :)
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip -pfirefox-trunk  --dbg-package=firefox-trunk-dbg
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: all non-arch-all packages for this build platform i386: firefox-trunk firefox-trunk-gnome-support firefox-trunk-dbg firefox-trunk-dev
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: not adding gnu debuglinks since --dbg-package is given
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: packages to act on: firefox-trunk
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: ignored packages:
[10:31] <Ubulette> dpkg-deb: building package `firefox-trunk-dbgsym' in `../firefox-trunk-dbgsym_3.0a8pre+cvs20070822t1116+bbot-1_i386.ddeb'.
[10:31] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: please give size of new dbgsym packages
[10:31] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: ok, what is the name for gp ~/.
[10:31] <Ubulette> no done yet
[10:31] <Ubulette> not
[10:31] <asac_the_2nd> have you looked if you saw this "Stripping package libs"
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip -pfirefox-trunk-dev  --dbg-package=firefox-trunk-dbg
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: all non-arch-all packages for this build platform i386: firefox-trunk firefox-trunk-gnome-support firefox-trunk-dbg firefox-trunk-dev
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: not adding gnu debuglinks since --dbg-package is given
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: packages to act on: firefox-trunk-dev
[10:31] <Ubulette> dh_strip debug symbol extraction: ignored packages:
[10:31] <asac_the_2nd> ??
[10:32] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: ok if it takes some time its a good sign
[10:32] <asac_the_2nd> but ../firefox-trunk-dbgsym_3.0a8pre+cvs20070822t1116+bbot-1_i386.ddeb'. shoudl already be available to probe size
[10:32] <asac_the_2nd> because thats the one that matters for us
[10:33] <asac_the_2nd> k
[10:33] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: thanx for the symlink , now gnash shows up both in gp as well as trunk
[10:33] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: please try youtubue
[10:33] <asac_the_2nd> does it work?
[10:34] <Ubulette> -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500     1603 2007-08-22 22:32 firefox-trunk-dbg_3.0a8pre+cvs20070822t1116+bbot-1_i386.deb
[10:34] <Ubulette> :(
[10:34] <asac_the_2nd> same for debug sym?
[10:34] <Ubulette> -rw-r--r-- 1 500 500 48552096 2007-08-22 22:30 firefox-trunk-dbgsym_3.0a8pre+cvs20070822t1116+bbot-1_i386.ddeb
[10:34] <asac_the_2nd> thats decent
[10:34] <asac_the_2nd> so lets not care for dbg
[10:34] <Ubulette> oh no, dh_builddeb -pfirefox-trunk-dbg is taking ages
[10:34] <Ubulette> still running
[10:34] <asac_the_2nd> ah
[10:34] <asac_the_2nd> ok
[10:35] <asac_the_2nd> should be well as well then
[10:35] <asac_the_2nd> cool
[10:37] <asac> Ubulette: ok i have just opened granparadiso 3.0~alpha7-0ubuntu7 changelog and pushed to mt
[10:38] <asac> feel free to add that patch there for now
[10:38] <asac> (rev 62)
[10:38] <asac> if now let me know ... i can do it as well then
[10:38] <asac> s/now/not/
[10:43] <asac_the_2nd> i could also merge over the patch from yours or mozillateam trunk branch
[10:43] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: sorry I was out, youtube hanged/freezed my system, gonna try again
[10:44] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: that was with gp
[10:45] <asac_the_2nd> does it freeze with ffox2 as well?
[10:45] <Ubulette> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/minirepos/firefox-minefield/pool/firefox-trunk/
[10:46] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: now it works, don't ask me but it does work, no audio output but video is working
[10:46] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette:  yep ... looks sane (judging from sizes)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> wtf happened to my repo?
[10:46] <asac_the_2nd> no idea ... i didn't touch it
[10:46] <Ubulette> all: feel free to use the repo if you want
[10:47] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: can you still log in?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> i cant get in from browser and its not opening in nautilus with ftp it just keeps sitting there
[10:48] <asac_the_2nd> well
[10:48] <asac_the_2nd> what was the url?
[10:48] <asac_the_2nd> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ ?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> yes
[10:48] <gnomefreak> but it opens something else
[10:48] <asac_the_2nd> well either high-jacked
[10:48] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: the audio works with some youtube videos while not with some
[10:49] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: also it doesn't stay up the whole time
[10:49] <asac_the_2nd> or the guy that gave it to us dropped stopped the subscription?
[10:49] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: ffox 2 or 3 ?
[10:49] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: ff3-gp
[10:50] <shirish> btw gnash has tonnes of debugging stuff built into it.
[10:50] <asac_the_2nd> try ffox if you see the same
[10:50] <asac_the_2nd> yes ... thats not a problem
[10:50] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: i think it was still up a few days ago
[10:51] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: if it was high-jacked you should probably use sftp to connect next time :)
[10:51] <gnomefreak> i will check with the person who gave it to me
[10:51] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: will do, btw here's sample of the stuff http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34707/
[10:52] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: is that a video that doesn't play sound or that does?
[10:52] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: dunno why most of the time, I need to use CTRL+C to gain control of the terminal
[10:52] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: that all of 4 videos output
[10:52] <asac_the_2nd> try to install jackd and see if it helps
[10:52] <Ubulette> hmm, dpkg-scanpackages doesn't know about ddebs
[10:53] <shirish> 3 of which don't play, the last one plays, each video is known by its url
[10:53] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: what is this jackd, I have heard of it but never really understood
[10:53] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: interesting ... for pitti it appears to work
[10:53] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: better ask him tomorrow as he goes on holiday soonish
[10:53] <Ubulette> maybe he patched it
[10:53] <asac_the_2nd> yes ... no idea
[10:54] <Ubulette> should be easy as a ddeb is just a deb
[10:54] <asac_the_2nd> maybe one can specify special extension ?
[10:54] <Ubulette> there's already -u for udebs
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> appears to be patched then
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> from what i see in code there is no hidden option to pass $ext
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> my $ext = $options{udeb} ? 'udeb' : 'deb';
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> my @find_args;
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> if ($options{arch}) {
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd>      @find_args = ('(','-name',"*_all.$ext",'-o','-name',"*_${arch}.$ext",')',);
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> }
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> else {
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd>      @find_args = ('-name',"*.$ext");
[10:55] <asac_the_2nd> }
[10:55] <Ubulette> saw that too.
[10:56] <asac_the_2nd> maybe it deserves an official enhancement patch that allows to pass --ext=ext1,ext2,ext3 :=
[10:56] <shirish> guys bbiaf
[10:56] <gnomefreak> repo does today
[10:56] <gnomefreak> died
[10:56] <asac_the_2nd> how? .... end of subscription?
[10:56] <Ubulette> rip repo
[10:57] <asac_the_2nd> yeah ... damn ... now i have to get a ppa or something else
[10:57] <asac_the_2nd> sucky
[10:57] <asac_the_2nd> no idea if ppa will support dapper and all this stuff
[10:58] <Ubulette> can I request a ppa too ?
[10:58] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: probably ... i am actually sure that individuals can get one (though don't know if everybody) ... but i am unsure if teams can get one
[10:59] <shirish> Ubulette: the firefox-dbgsym is not yet built
[10:59] <Ubulette> asac_the_2nd, suse allows that.. http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service
[10:59] <Ubulette> shirish, ??
[10:59] <shirish> Ubulette: or it has issues
[11:00] <shirish> Ubulette: I tried to see if there was anything like firefox-trunk-dbgsym or something, there is firefox-trunk-dbg but not -dbgsym package
[11:00] <Ubulette> oh, it's in the repo but not recognized in the index, fetch it manually for now. I have to find a way to fix that
[11:00] <Ubulette> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/minirepos/firefox-minefield/pool/firefox-trunk/
[11:01] <asac> Ubulette: ppa should be possible for teams as well ... i am just unsure if just now
[11:01] <shirish> Ubulette: ok will do
[11:02] <asac> Ubulette: i think you can just copy dpkg-buildpackage to a user place and patch it there
[11:02] <Ubulette> can't the way my bot works
[11:05] <Ubulette> I could post a patch on lp but people behind apt/dpkg seems to ignore bugs
[11:07] <shirish> asac: on ff2 I watched one video & the video played+audio output ;)
[11:07] <gnomefreak> oh new lp looks harder to use
[11:08] <Ubulette> there's a new lp ?
[11:08] <shirish> gnomefreak: its slightly different, that's all, you have to use other than the name if you want to change values of a bug-report
[11:08] <gnomefreak> shirish: i know
[11:08] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/
[11:08] <shirish> Ubulette: yup lp got updated/upgraded to 1.18 or something like that, I used it for sometime on edge.launchpad.net
[11:08] <gnomefreak> Ubulette: thats a demo page click on bug
[11:09] <gnomefreak> shirish: i dont know why it wasnt given to me since im part of the testing team
[11:10] <shirish> gnomefreak: I have no idea m8
[11:10] <gnomefreak> and i dont see PPA anywhere\
[11:10] <shirish> asac: http://pastebin.ca/667264 this is of that one youtube file which i just saw with audio
[11:11] <asac> ok we will get a ppa tomorrow (most likely)
[11:11] <shirish> ppa as power pc architecture ?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> shirish: no
[11:12] <shirish> then?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> asac: the email i just read said it takes the place of your dogbone(whatever its called) account that is only for employees of canonical or is it just one example?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> shirish: its an auto build tool for LP
[11:13] <asac> its a personal apt archive thing afaik
[11:13] <asac> with auto-builders
[11:13] <shirish> gnomefreak: ok, cool I know there is something to do with a dog & a bone rofl ;)
[11:13] <asac> just like the one used by ubuntu iteself
[11:13] <shirish> asac: I know, I have seen the builds building up
[11:14] <asac> gnomefreak: wait till tomorrow ;)
[11:14] <Ubulette> ppa = personal package archives
[11:14] <Ubulette> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/personal-package-archives
[11:15] <shirish> Ubulette: thanx, will subscribe to that spec. once the trunk is out
[11:15] <Jazzva> asac: Hmm, I found a bug in gnome-voice-control (well, it was a packaging bug) and fixed it... should I file the bug in LP and send the patch?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Your PPA on production Launchpad will work in the same way as your
[11:16] <gnomefreak> dogfood PPA. However, the URLs you use will change slightly:
[11:16] <asac> Jazzva: yes attach the patch ...
[11:16] <gnomefreak> read it wrong
[11:16] <asac> Jazzva: actually attach the debdiff
[11:16] <Jazzva> asac: Though it crashes upon running the listening part, which is not package related :/... I'll try to work with upstream about that.
[11:16] <Jazzva> asac: Ok :)
[11:17] <shirish> gnomefreak: if it makes it better, i don't mind changing URL's at all ;)
[11:17] <Jazzva> asac: And to subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors before uploading the debdiff?
[11:19] <asac_the_2nd> no before ... after
[11:19] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva: you have bug id?
[11:20] <Jazzva> Didn't file one :)...
[11:20] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: we will have a ppa for mozillateam ... which hopefully is our archive then
[11:20] <asac_the_2nd> a zero administration one though ;)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: it looks like i lost the domain
[11:20] <gnomefreak> it looks like he lost domain
[11:20] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva: ah right ... you are the maintainer ... i forgot
[11:20] <gnomefreak> so i lost it as well
[11:21] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: I found the bug yesterday... Will submit the diff tonight :)
[11:21] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva: is it derived from a debian package?
[11:21] <asac_the_2nd> or does debian need this one as well?
[11:21] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: Debian needs it... I thought of doing that... but probably after the exams...
[11:21] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: I checked and there's no ITP filed in Debinan
[11:21] <Jazzva> *Debian
[11:22] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: if you are here .... please poke me to death to submit testcases to stgraber tomorrow ;)
[11:22] <shirish> ubotu ITP
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <gnomefreak> asac_the_2nd: for what?
[11:22] <asac_the_2nd> for our qa site on stgraber.com
[11:22] <shirish> Jazzva: what's ITP?
[11:22] <asac_the_2nd> mozilla.qa.stgraber.co
[11:22] <gnomefreak> oh ok tomorrow?
[11:22] <asac_the_2nd> i want to organize tests through that on next security uploads
[11:22] <asac_the_2nd> yes the sooner the better
[11:23] <Jazzva> shirish: Itention To Package...
[11:23] <asac_the_2nd> i already have that on my todo list ... but its too important to forget ;)
[11:23] <Jazzva> *Intention
[11:23] <gnomefreak> i agree
[11:23] <shirish> Jazzva: cool
[11:23] <gnomefreak> but atm we have nothing in tessting :(
[11:23] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: https://mozilla.qa.stgraber.org/
[11:23] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: yes we need ppa :)
[11:23] <Jazzva> shirish: A type of bug report in Debian where you state that you're packaging something
[11:24] <shirish> meanwhile I'll be having an ITS - Intention to sleep in another 30 mins.
[11:24] <shirish> ;)
[11:24] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: actually i want to use it for security builds first ... they are the ones that make me sweat most
[11:24] <asac_the_2nd> i always don't try to open bugmail for three days after an upload ;)
[11:24] <Jazzva> shirish: Lol... I think I won't have that in next 5 hours, though I would like to have it *sighs*...
[11:25] <shirish> Jazzva: its 3 a.m. IST here
[11:25] <asac_the_2nd> were are you from?
[11:25] <asac_the_2nd> UTC+5 ?
[11:25] <Jazzva> shirish: Middle East? India?
[11:25] <shirish> UTC+5.30 India
[11:26] <asac_the_2nd> didn't know that there exist timezones that have a non-natural time offset :)
[11:26] <Jazzva> shirish: I always liked those someting.30 zones :)... Anyway UTC+2 over here...
[11:26] <asac_the_2nd> good to know
[11:26] <asac_the_2nd> yeah here too
[11:27] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: there are actually I would be 5+45 or something like that, as I'm pretty far from equator
[11:27] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: India is big
[11:30] <shirish> its a magical place in itself & pretty addictive.
[11:30] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: welll the world is big too ... still there are often even offsets
[11:31] <asac_the_2nd> i mean by daylight i am probably UTC+1.45
[11:31] <asac_the_2nd> still i am in +2 ;)
[11:31] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: true, btw I don't understand by what this daylight thing is all about
[11:31] <asac_the_2nd> daylight time ... or daylight saving?
[11:32] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: daylight time, I think that's what America follows nowadays, right
[11:32] <asac_the_2nd> daylight time is just the *real* time ... at the place you are ... daylight saving is the most stupid thing
[11:32] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: nobody follows daylight time
[11:32] <asac_the_2nd> they do daylight saving
[11:32] <shirish> ok daylight saving then, what's that?
[11:33] <asac_the_2nd> they try to shift the clock in winter so the work day is better aligned to daylight
[11:33] <asac_the_2nd> because someone smart calculated that you can save power in that way
[11:33] <asac_the_2nd> problem is that this was done when most people started work at 8 am ... but nowadays the majority starts at 9 or later
[11:33] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: Do you know if DST is used in every country? *unsure*
[11:34] <asac_the_2nd> however they don't revert it ... so our time bounces back and force (in winter and summer)
[11:34] <shirish> Jazzva: its not used in our country for sure
[11:34] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva: i doubt it is
[11:34] <asac_the_2nd> its most likely used just in places where you have strong seasons
[11:34] <asac_the_2nd> because the days are really short in winter
[11:34] <asac_the_2nd> e.g. 4 hours daylight or even less
[11:34] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd, shirish: Oh... I see...
[11:34] <asac_the_2nd> actually countries that haven't adapted that are lucky imo
[11:34] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: same here, although 6 hrs. here in winter, also it depends where you mean in India
[11:35] <asac_the_2nd> its robs my daylight because i wake up late ... i don't need sunshine at 8 am in winter
[11:35] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: Yeah... no fuss about switching the clock back and forth... It's bad if you forget to adjust it...
[11:35] <shirish> if you go up north then it might be in that 4 hrs. range, down south it would be 6-8 hrs. it really all depends on where you are located
[11:35] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: i doubt that india goes that far north
[11:35] <gnomefreak> when do we change clocks?
[11:36] <asac_the_2nd> gnomefreak: no idea ... for us its around 21th sep and 21th mar
[11:36] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: I think it's not the same for every country *sighs*...
[11:36] <asac_the_2nd> e.g. geological spring/autumn
[11:36] <asac_the_2nd> yeah most likely its not the same
[11:36] <gnomefreak> its close i think let me see if i can google it
[11:36] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: I know if we cross the border up north, then one can go to china, pakistan & Russia in 4 hrs. or something.
[11:36] <asac_the_2nd> actually i planned to ignore it this time and just shift my work hours accordingly
[11:37] <Jazzva> For Serbia... well, last time on 2nd or 3rd Oct and 26th or 27th Mar :/
[11:37] <asac_the_2nd> or set my calendar to UTC :)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: that sounds closer for me as well
[11:37] <asac_the_2nd> should be more or less the same everywhere
[11:37] <asac_the_2nd> maybe one week back and forth
[11:38] <gnomefreak> 2007  March 11  November 4
[11:38] <shirish> finally have the firefox-trunk-dbgsym downloaded, now the firefox-dev-dbgsym
[11:38] <gnomefreak> it looks like is mine
[11:39] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: most likely you don't need -dev
[11:39] <shirish> Ubulette: are you up m8?
[11:40] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: I think so too, as it is its at 50 MB hefty
[11:40] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: the libs in -dev are not used during runtime ... so you don't need it
[11:40] <shirish> ok cool
[11:41] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: can you pass on the message to Ubulette that the bug he had, I have it two, about taking URL/link from webpage & putting it somewhere, it gives the link before
[11:43] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: I wish I had ubulette's e-mail id, maybe you can give him mine, mine's shirishag75@gmail.com
[11:43] <Ubulette> asac_the_2nd, "Suche nach '*.ddeb' statt '*.deb'." is that correct ?
[11:43] <shirish> Ubulette: I have the same issue as you, the URL/link bug which you were talking about before.
[11:43] <shirish> Ubulette: also what's your mail address?
[11:44] <Ubulette> it's everywhere on lp :)
[11:45] <Ubulette> i hate to show emails here as it logs
[11:45] <Ubulette> i hate to show emails here as it's logged
[11:45] <shirish> Ubulette: I tried to find it yesterday but wasn't successful. I did find the fta bit but nothing much
[11:45] <shirish> Ubulette: nice move
[11:45] <Ubulette> try lp /~fta
[11:46] <shirish> that was stupid of me, didn't think of the spam & rest of the nasty stuff.
[11:47] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: why do you want to know that?
[11:49] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: i don't understand your question ... Ubulette is right here ;)?
[11:49] <shirish> asac_the_2nd: when I was trying to reach him, he was not here, thought he had gone to sleep or something.
[11:49] <Ubulette> asac, just patched dpkg and there's a man page in en/fr/de
[11:51] <Ubulette> anyway, should be ok as it was like that for udeb
[11:51] <asac_the_2nd> Ubulette: honestly i don't know how to phrase it correctly ;) ... but what do you want to say? "include .ddeb in addition to .deb?" or search for .ddeb instead of .deb?
[11:51] <asac_the_2nd> what you wrote above means more or less the latter
[11:51] <Ubulette> instead of
[11:52] <asac_the_2nd> one would understand it that way ... yes.
[11:52] <asac_the_2nd> probably you can just copy the doc for udeb and s/ud/dd/
[11:52] <asac_the_2nd> ;)
[11:56] <Ubulette> in fact i did just that, even for french
[11:56] <asac_the_2nd> probably the best :)
[11:58] <asac_the_2nd> oh cool there are new fglrx drivers
[11:58] <asac_the_2nd> maybe i can play quake4 without system freezes again :)
[11:58] <shirish> ok guys, eyes shutting, see you all tomorrow
[11:58] <shirish> gn
[11:58] <asac_the_2nd> shirish: night
[11:58] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: Filed the bug #134145, attached the debdiff... Dinner time :yay:
[11:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134145 in gnome-voice-control "data/Makefile.* not using $(libexecdir) var" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134145
[11:59] <asac_the_2nd> Jazzva: fix committed is not right
[11:59] <asac_the_2nd> fix committed is used to indicate that sponsor has uploaded
[11:59] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: Oh, right... forgot that... *sigh*
[11:59] <asac_the_2nd> please read the universe sponsoring wiki page
[11:59] <Jazzva> asac_the_2nd: In Progress?
[12:00] <asac_the_2nd> in progress would be if you are working on them ... read the wiki page ;)
[12:00] <asac_the_2nd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess?highlight=%28sponsor%29
[12:01] <asac_the_2nd> but thats not the page i use to remember ... anyway ... maybe it provides the needed info as well
[12:01] <Jazzva> Thanks :).. I'll take a look now :)
[12:01] <asac_the_2nd> otherwise: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue?highlight=%28sponsor%29
[12:01] <asac_the_2nd> thats the other page i think
[12:01] <asac_the_2nd> it outlines the general workflow
[12:02] <asac_the_2nd> if there are contradictions in those pages let me know :)
[12:05] <asac_the_2nd> ok i am doing a reboot ... and will play abit with this bad wifi chipset ... cu later
[12:20] <Jazzva> asac: Read the wikis... Seems fine now.
[12:52] <asac> Jazzva|away: didn't know that it wasn't fine in the first place ;)
[12:52] <Jazzva> asac: Well... It was, but the State wasn't good :)...
[12:53] <asac> ah ;)
[12:53] <Jazzva> "Seems fine now" as in "The bug report seems fine now" :)
[12:53] <asac> thought you'd said that you fixed the wiki ;)
[12:53] <Jazzva> asac: Yeah... now I figured it sounded like that...
[01:08] <asac_the_2nd> i must admit that this bcm43xx chipset works pretty well
[01:08] <asac_the_2nd> wpa/web/open ... all work
[01:09] <asac_the_2nd> only glitch is that somehow nm doesn't differentiate between wep and wpa passphrase
[01:09] <asac_the_2nd> so if i change my encryption type on ap i have to remove the key from keyring manually
[01:09] <asac_the_2nd> otherwise nm always thinks that connection fails
[01:09] <asac_the_2nd> but doesn't ask for new passphrase