[02:24] <nosrednaekim> ogra: hey remember me? I've been doing some research on thin clients, and I don't have the hardware to do it. Is there any other way to test thin-client-manager? would it work between VM's?
[02:27] <monteslu> no reason it shouldn't work in VMs
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: like from one VM running the server to another VM running the client?
[02:28] <monteslu> you can even have a VM pxe boot on a host only network
[02:28] <monteslu> nosrednaekim, exactly
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: meaning I could make my VM host the ltsp host?
[02:30] <monteslu> you could do that too :)
[02:30] <monteslu> but I'd just have the host as whatever, an make the ltsp server and client different vms
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> monteslu: yeah.. ok, probably safer that way.
[02:31] <monteslu> just make sure that the server and client are on the same virtual network
[02:31] <monteslu> and give each vm only one virtual NIC
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> yeah... i'm going to have to read up on VM networking :)
[02:32] <monteslu> neat things you can do with it
[02:32] <monteslu> the simplest is probably just the default "bridged"
[02:32] <monteslu> that way your host can talk to the VMs on the same network.
[02:33] <monteslu> and make sure you don't have a different DHCP server running when fire it all up
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> heh... I'm totally confused... I'll do a bit of reading and come back if I have any problems ;)
[02:34] <monteslu> I'll be around :)
[02:34] <monteslu> here or in #ltsp, and I know jammcq in #ltsp has done stuff with vmware as well
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> thanks.
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[03:56] <cje> hi, does anyone here have any experience using Adobe Shockwave on Edubuntu?  I am a volunteer supporting a public middle school in San Francisco with FOSS.  We are getting ready for the new school year, and one of the teachers would like to use this site:  http://www.explorelearning.com .  Thanks in advance.
[04:50] <LaserJock> sbalneav!!!
[04:50] <sbalneav> Evening!
[04:50] <LaserJock> it's running great
[04:51] <LaserJock> I'm just trying to figure out the resolution
[04:51] <LaserJock> 640x480 is a bit painful
[04:56] <sbalneav> So... thin client.  Kinda growing on you. eh?
[04:58] <LaserJock> yeah
[04:58] <LaserJock> it's using like no CPU now
[04:59] <LaserJock> and it runs so fast on the Classmate
[05:36] <sbalneav> Back
[03:09] <sbalneav> Goooooood morning everyone!
[03:16] <joebaker> morning sbalneav
[03:16] <sbalneav> Morning!
[03:16] <joebaker> Which Edubuntu Tribe 5 iso image should I test
[03:17] <ogra> joebaker, follow the link in the topic
[03:18] <ogra> the isos themselves are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/
[03:24] <joebaker> I suppose the most important install path is the server and server add-on since
[03:24] <joebaker> people without broadband connections would be solely dependent on the combination
[03:24] <joebaker> of these two CDs.
[03:27] <ogra> right
[03:27] <ogra> even only the server ...
[03:27] <ogra> addon didnt change since last tribe ...
[03:27] <ogra> even having regression testing might be good thats no high prio
[06:01] <Riddell> ogra: ETA for test results?
[06:02] <ogra> heh, just pinged in -devel
[08:50] <LaserJock> RichEd-1: alive? :-)
[09:04] <LaserJock> sbalneav: you're looking for patches for gnome-screensaver?
[09:04] <sbalneav> Yes!
[09:05] <sbalneav> Do you have launchpad-fu?
[09:05] <LaserJock> it's not a launchpad thing, I don't think anyway
[09:05] <sbalneav> They're patches that ogra applied
[09:06] <LaserJock> sbalneav: I think what you want to do is grab the source package
[09:06] <LaserJock> and look in debian/patches/
[09:06] <sbalneav> Hmm, have to do it for gutsy then, my home box.
[09:06] <LaserJock> I see 03_fix_ltsp-fading.patch
[09:07] <LaserJock> and 04_force_blank_only_on_ltsp.patch
[09:07] <sbalneav> How long are they?
[09:07] <LaserJock> are those what you're looking for?
[09:07] <sbalneav> Could you pastie them?
[09:07] <LaserJock> sure
[09:08] <sbalneav> Wonder what ascii are we could come up with for a hug?
[09:08] <LaserJock> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34816/
[09:09] <sbalneav> Thankee
[09:10] <LaserJock> that's payback for telling me I should log in as a different user on the TC ;-)
[09:11] <Nubae> hi... I have a quick question, I'm running LTSP and the clients seem to be freezing and looping at the point of starting the nbd-client process
[09:12] <Nubae> oh... running edubuntu feisty btw
[09:12] <sbalneav> Man, I'd LOVE get a gnome-core dev, tie him/her to a chair, feed him/her jolt cola and dingdongs and not let him/her up until gnome was multi-login capable.
[09:13] <sbalneav> Then Gnome would be perfect.
[09:13] <Nubae> I get Startubg NBD client process, screen goes black and then goes back... and the same process repeats
[09:13] <LaserJock> sbalneav: hehe
[09:13] <Nubae> anybody seen this before?
[09:13] <LaserJock> hmmm
[09:13] <sbalneav> This is for nbd swapping, I'm assuming?
[09:13] <Nubae> yeah
[09:13] <LaserJock> I think I was having that last night when i was using the wrong X driver
[09:13] <sbalneav> How much ram in the client?
[09:14] <Nubae> yeah thought it might be X, if I go to a shell, it works
[09:14] <Nubae> 1 gig
[09:14] <sbalneav> Ah, yeah.
[09:14] <sbalneav> Prolly X
[09:14] <LaserJock> I'm pretty sure it's X trying to start and failing
[09:14] <Nubae> ndb swapping I turned off... just to see, get the same problem...
[09:14] <sbalneav> try something like XSERVER = vesa, to see if it comes all the way off.
[09:14] <Nubae> ok... so just play with XSERVER settings?
[09:15] <sbalneav> up, sorry.
[09:15] <Nubae> Its on Vesa now
[09:15] <sbalneav> yeah.
[09:15] <sbalneav> Wierd.  What kind of chipset?
[09:15] <LaserJock> Nubae: I think nbd is just the last process that gets started before X starts
[09:15] <Nubae> ATI radeon mobility x1450
[09:15] <LaserJock> oh
[09:15] <LaserJock> yeah
[09:15] <sbalneav> Try the "radeon" driver, maybe?
[09:15] <Nubae> I've tried ati as the xserver setting... and vesa
[09:15] <Nubae> wouldnt vesa work no matter what?
[09:16] <sbalneav> it's SUPPOSED to.  :)
[09:16] <Nubae> ok, I'll try radeon...
[09:16] <LaserJock> if I remember right vesa doesn't work with x???? cards
[09:16] <LaserJock> or something
[09:16] <Nubae> heh, damn ATI and linux
[09:16] <LaserJock> I've read that somewhere recently anyway
[09:16] <LaserJock> although I thought it was gutsy that was having that problem
[09:17] <sbalneav> Man, I wish intel would get off their tush and release a agp card version of their graphics chipsets.
[09:17] <LaserJock> I'd probably buy one
[09:17] <LaserJock> even if it wasn't that fast, I don't do much
[09:17] <Nubae> cant I just use framebuffer?
[09:18] <sbalneav> Could try that.
[09:18] <Nubae> damn... radeon doesnt work either
[09:19] <Nubae> xserver=fbdev, right?
[09:20] <LaserJock> I think you might be stuck with fglrx as the only driver that works for that card
[09:20] <Nubae> ok, and is that available under the ltsp chroot?
[09:24] <Nubae> fglrx no go
[09:27] <Nubae> so... basically x1450 doesnt work under LTSP at all?
[09:28] <LaserJock> Nubae: you gotta install the ATI proprietary driver first
[09:28] <Nubae> ok, but where? from a ltsp shell login?
[09:29] <LaserJock> well, it's gonna have to be in the ltsp chroot
[09:31] <Nubae> allright, thanks a lot for your help... I'll try my luck
[10:13] <paolob> Hi guys! What software do I use in order to configure a cisco router? something like windows' hiperterminal
[10:16] <lns> paolob, kinda offtopic...but try minicom
[11:57] <Riddell> well, I can't set your topic, but tribe 5 is out