[12:36] <anu> !seveas
[12:36] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:38] <wastedfluid> anybody have an alternative for networkmanager?
[12:38] <gdiebel> wastedfluid: tried knetworkmanager?
[12:39] <wastedfluid> gdiebel;  that's what i'm using that I hate; knetworkmanager.  I type in my WEP key, and it just does nothing.. it gets to 28%, and doesn't let me try anything else.. i have to reboot to try another setting.
[12:41] <gdiebel> wastedfluid: if it sits there trying to connect, just close the window and try again. it should cancel the previous operations. more generally, are you using the wep passphrase or the key itself? you can set which one to use explicitly
[12:42] <NickPresta> If I install *buntu on a computer using the alternate install CD because the desktop CD gives me X errors, does that mean my fully installed system will start off with an X error too?
[12:42] <angasule> !pppoe
[12:42] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:42] <angasule> it's a fracking joke :(
[12:43] <carbonfreeze> angasule: agree +1. Should be a GUI like YAST.. lol
[12:43] <angasule> carbonfreeze: I haven't used yast in years, but pppoeconf is horrible :P
[12:44] <angasule> carbonfreeze: it's a real problem, because all the broadband ISPs in my country use pppoe
[12:44] <sammy> okay this doesn't seem right. reading the repository documentation, it seems feisty-backports is added by checking 'unsupported updates' in adept-manager
[12:44] <carbonfreeze> angasule: yeah. I like YaST alot more than the kubuntu config stuff, its just faster to setup sometimes
[12:45] <sirius> Hi there, can anyone point me to the place where I can get some help about a network problem in my Kubuntu, This is my first time at linux althought I'm a .NET Developer and a research, just need some orientation and I will try to bother you guys as little as I can
[12:45] <angasule> carbonfreeze: I remember in SuSE 7 I loved it, very good stuff
[12:45] <sammy> erm, scratch that. first things first. I added the kubuntu.org repository for kde-3.5.7 and when i update the available packages, there's nothing 3.5.7 there. i followed the directions a few times, to the letter.
[12:45] <angasule> sirius: you would have to be more specific
[12:46] <NickPresta> !network | sirius
[12:46] <ubotu> sirius: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <NickPresta> sirius, that may not be helpful. What seems to be the problem?
[12:46] <trekdanne> sirius: the Linux Document Project has good technical howtos on almost everything.
[12:47] <sirius> Well I've installed my speedtouch ( and hard taks) and I'm obviusly connected, still my Konkeror browser just don't connect to any site ( sorry for m bad english, I can refrase if you miss anything )
[12:47] <sammy> is anyone in here running anything 3.5.7?
[12:47] <trekdanne> sirius: have you set up any web proxy?
[12:47] <sirius> nops,
[12:48] <carbonfreeze> sammy: gutsy has 3.5.7...
[12:48] <NickPresta> sammy, I've been running 3.5.7 for months.
[12:48] <sirius> I've followed the exact steps ath linux-usb.org/speedtouch/ubuntu/index.html
[12:49] <sirius> *at
[12:49] <NickPresta> sirius, did any steps fail or go wrong?
[12:49] <Arwen> sammy, I've got kdelibs 3.5.7 if that counts
[12:50] <sirius> No, everything went just fine, and as a result I'm connected, I don't get it, I can't resolve any webpage using
[12:50] <sirius> I'm also downloading some Updates
[12:50] <trekdanne> sirius: hmm try the text-based console browser "w3m"
[12:51] <NickPresta> sirius, so is this a Konqueror problem or is this a connection problem? If it's the former, try using another browser for now.
[12:51] <trekdanne> sirius: should be installed with kubuntu per default
[12:51] <angasule> !kubuntu+1
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu+1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <NickPresta> !ubuntu+1
[12:51] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:52] <angasule> NickPresta: there is no IRC channel for #kubuntu+1 ?
[12:52] <sirius> Well the w3m browser works just fine
[12:53] <NickPresta> angasule, I suppose there aren't enough xubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu users of Gutsy to warrant individual channels?
[12:53] <wastedfluid> gdiebel; i was using the wep phrase.
[12:53] <angasule> NickPresta: bummer, and kubuntu-dev list is rather unresponsive
[12:53] <NickPresta> angasule, well, try in ubuntu+1 and see if there are any kubuntu users there. I don't know what else to suggest
[12:54] <KondeDrakul> how i enable hibernation in my laptop ?
[12:54] <angasule> NickPresta: I did, no one is even talking there heh
[12:54] <sammy> NickPresta: gutsy or feisty?
[12:54] <sammy> sorry, I should have specified.
[12:54] <sammy> I followed the directions for adding the 3.5.7 repository but it's not working. and 3.5.7 isn't in the backports, either, I guess.
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> angasule: no... if you have any real problems with kubuntu specific things go to the deveolpment channel
[12:54] <NickPresta> sammy, I'm on Feisty
[12:55] <NickPresta> sammy, deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/kde/stable/3.5.7/kubuntu feisty main
[12:55] <adenicio> stdin: t la?
[12:55] <sammy> you're ahead of me, thanks :) i'll try that one, maybe the kubuntu.org one isn't working for some reason.
[12:55] <angasule> nosrednaekim: what? I'm in #ubuntu+1 , is there *another* dev channel?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> angasule: #kubuntu-devel for bug with kDE apps and such.
[12:56] <code_x> hello, my knetwork manager is not showing my wireless AP but 'iwconfig' showing it. can someone tell me how can i fix this ?
[12:56] <angasule> nosrednaekim: thanks, I guess that's the good thing about standards, there are so many to choose from ;)
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> code_x: iwconfig doesn't show AP's... thats iwlist...
[12:56] <sirius> I've noticed that the Kopete app it is also not working, so I guess that it isn't a kokeror problem, any clues?
[12:56] <magnus__> salve
[12:56] <magnus__> c' qualcuno?
[12:57] <code_x> sorry i ment 'iwlist'
[12:57] <magnus__> cazo
[12:57] <magnus__> cazzo*
[12:57] <magnus__> inglesi
[12:57] <code_x> i wnat to know why its now show up in knetworkmanager
[12:57] <magnus__> buttana di eva
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> code_x: hmm... no clue
[12:57] <NickPresta> magnus__, what language?
[12:57] <sammy> ah-ha! that repository works! thanks NickPresta. I'll edit the wiki page with the kubuntu.org link that is apparently dead or needs to be investigated.
[12:57] <magnus__> you speak italian?
[12:57] <code_x> i used to show up before but today iam just not seeing
[12:57] <KondeDrakul> nosrednaekim, hello do you know how enable hibernation in laptop ?
[12:57] <wastedfluid> Does anybody know of a different network manager than knetworkmanager?  anything to connect to a wireless router?  I'm having nothing but problems with it.
[12:58] <NickPresta> !it | magnus__
[12:58] <ubotu> magnus__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:58] <code_x> sosrednaekim: so you know how i can use my wireless from the command line
[12:58] <malqos> can i change walpaper on only one workspace?
[12:58] <magnus__> grazieeeee
[12:58] <magnus__> thx
[12:58] <magnus__> :D
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> KondeDrakul: heh...if its not working... it'll be a big pain if it even works in the end.
[12:58] <NickPresta> ciao, magnus__
[12:58] <magnus__> kubuntu non ubuntu
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> code_x: sure... do you have any encryption on?
[12:58] <magnus__> :S
[12:59] <code_x> no
[12:59] <magnus__> kubuntu-it
[12:59] <magnus__> no?
[12:59] <sirius> Well I guess you're all just too busy, I will try to fix this on my own, Thank you all for your Help.
[12:59] <NickPresta> magnus__, #kubuntu-it should be the italian channel for Kubuntu
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> sirius: yeah sorry.
[12:59] <NickPresta> !volunteer | sirius
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> sirius: I didn't even hear your problem.
[12:59] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  No problem :)
[12:59] <magnus__> bye
[12:59] <magnus__> thz
[01:00] <magnus__> thx*
[01:00] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  got a spare minuts?
[01:00] <NickPresta> sirius, repeat your question later. There will be others available to help you who may know what your problem could be.
[01:01] <sirius> NickPresta: Sure, I will try the Portugues Channel, or the Spanish, thanks u all
[01:01] <code_x> nosrednaekim: no encryption on
[01:02] <adenicio> stdin: je sui revenu pour le sujet dinstal real player sur feity.in the third party thing i should put"deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main" then edit it?.but when i edit it it crashes.so i change dapper to feity befor i past it in the third parti but it doesnt enter
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> code_x: ok run this command "sudo iwconfig <network device name, i.e eth0> <AP name>" and then "sudo dhclient <device name>"
[01:04] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: can u help me to install real plyer so i can watch strems
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> sirius: heh shoot... lets see if I know :)
[01:05] <code_x> nosrednaekim: when i run the command it says "error: unrecognised wireless request "dlink"
[01:05] <code_x> i did "sudo iwconfig eth1 dlink"
[01:06] <code_x> dlink is the name of the access point
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> code_x: heh... sorry... my bad. run "sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID dlink"
[01:06] <sirius> nosrednaekim: I've configured my SpeedTouch 330 and I can get Intenet access still I can't use Konkeror nor Kopete, but the w3m browser works
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: sorry, no experience with that.
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> sirius: can you ping?
[01:07] <sirius> nosrednaekim: I guess so otherwise won't be here ( keep alive) still just gona check it , One moment please
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> sirius: are you using a proxy?
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> or are you supposed to be?
[01:08] <droach> i have a question thats kind of stupid i think i already know the answere but here it goes
[01:08] <sirius> nosrednaekim: Checked, I can Ping, no I don  use proxy
[01:08] <code_x> nosrednaekim: thanks it worked, but who do i if i have uses encryption
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> sirius: ok, so not a DNS problem.
[01:08] <droach> i installed a new hardrive on one of my other machines the bios was set to none but linux still recognized my harddrive
[01:09] <Biovore> sounds about right..
[01:09] <droach> so i was wondering if i put and 80 gig hdd in an old computer whos bios couldnt handle it
[01:09] <Biovore> nope
[01:09] <droach> would it still work
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> code_x: iwconfig only works with WEP encryption... WPArequires some other stuff.
[01:09] <Biovore> ATA addressing issue..
[01:09] <Biovore> droach: nope
[01:09] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: no prob i just find another way to insall it wich is a bin file in the terminal with cd
[01:09] <Biovore> well 1/2 of it would
[01:10] <droach> cuz the pc had a 13 gig hdd in it
[01:10] <Biovore> what generation computer
[01:10] <Biovore> ata66?
[01:10] <Biovore> ata33?
[01:10] <Biovore> ata100?
[01:10] <droach> 450mhz sis530 mainboard
[01:10] <sirius> nosrednaekim: I don't realy know the way linux works, still is it possible that it is only accepting request from a lowlevel like terminal use ( well guess not because I'me using a Graphical IRC Client) , or is it possible to be a permision issue??? ( Don't really understand the basis of Unix Systems
[01:11] <Biovore> droach: I think those were ata66..  I tihnk they support up to 120 GB...
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> sirius: don't think its either of those really.
[01:11] <code_x> thank anyways
[01:11] <droach> the bios wouldnt autodetect a 40 gig or an 80 gig
[01:12] <droach> i could flash the bios but i have only one computer with a floppy drive and its the one that is not running
[01:12] <drif> droach: latest available bios installed?
[01:12] <droach> see above
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> sirius: its kinda odd.... ah... heh I think I know what it is...
[01:12] <sirius> nosrednaekim: I'm lost, It's my first time at linux, I was just sick of VISTA, and as a Researcher I do need a machine with and trustble OS (and after the reviews and some Beryl videos I've Chosed Kubuntu)
[01:12] <drif> droach: yup, noticed that - but bit hard to undo on irc :D
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> sirius: try some non-kde apps and see if they work..
[01:13] <sirius> well w3m works
[01:13] <sirius> nosrednaekim: w3m works
[01:13] <droach> i think im going to boot up knoppix with the 80 gig installed but turned off in the bios and see if it detects it that way
[01:14] <underdog5004> sirius, what's the problem?
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> sirius: I think its knetworkmanager's problem. it probably doesn't detect you have a working net connection and hence tells all KDE apps not to even try going to the internet
[01:14] <nosrednaekim> sirius: I've seen it happen b4
[01:15] <carbonfreeze> knetworkmanager sucks
[01:15] <carbonfreeze> i cant stand it
[01:15] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  Still I'me using a KDE IRC Client ( well it's a desktop based app with a GUI so I think tha this is must be KDE )
[01:15] <underdog5004> I prefer it to wlassistant
[01:15] <carbonfreeze> it doesnt do dialup/pppoe easily
[01:15] <underdog5004> ifconfig ftw, though
[01:15] <droach> well i have to shut down and find my kvm (only got one keyboard and mouse ill come back if it dosent work
[01:15] <carbonfreeze> it should do all interfaces good
[01:15] <underdog5004> kppp for dialup
[01:15] <carbonfreeze> i like that it does wpa seamlessly
[01:15] <underdog5004> good point
[01:15] <carbonfreeze> but that is the ONLY reason i use it
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> sirius: yeah... but it not look at the config thing... does firfox work (or don'tyou have firefox...).
[01:16] <carbonfreeze> the suse version of knetworkmanager will do dialup/pppoe but it is really buggy (see: doesnt connect when you want it to,etc)
[01:17] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  I don't have it and I don't know how to download it because the w3m browser is still wayy to odd for a Vista User
[01:17] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  let me just give it a try
[01:17] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  Downloading
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> sirius: pop up a console and run "sudo apt-get update"
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> sirius: off the firefox website?
[01:19] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  Yaps but it was the Win version (dummy thinkg ... lol )
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> sirius: run that command I said..
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> sirius: Linux has awesomely easy program management.
[01:19] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  Odd thing happen with the Update, It can't resolve a major part of nvidia sites
[01:20] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  but it downloaded something
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> sirius: ok... thats fine... w/e
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> sirius: try running "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[01:20] <carbonfreeze> sirius: I have noticed similar issues when using gentoo on my PS3, are you behind any kind of switch/router?
[01:20] <NickPresta> Any idea if pidgin's plugin-pack will be in Gutsy?
[01:21] <carbonfreeze> NickPresta: wait 1 while i start adept..
[01:21] <sirius> carbonfreeze: Nops just me the Laptop and the modem(USB)
[01:21] <sirius> nosrednaekim: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> sirius: anything above that?
[01:22] <sirius> nosrednaekim: only that,
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> run " sudo dpkg --configure -a" then ;)
[01:22] <sirius> (I was reallly freaking me out to try the beryl  :( )
[01:23] <sirius> I mean overjyed or something like that
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> sirius: eh... don't worry... we'll get there.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> sirius: but please don't tell me you have an ATI card.
[01:23] <carbonfreeze> NickPresta: I have pidgin-plugin-pack available in gutsy feed (7.10 tribe4+)
[01:24] <sirius> nosrednaekim: Ive a nVidia GeForce Go 7200
[01:24] <NickPresta> carbonfreeze, okay, thanks.
[01:24] <sirius> nosrednaekim: dpkg: falhou a escrita do registo status cerca de `openoffice.org-style-human' a `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No h mais espao no dispositivo
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> sirius: good thing I know a little spanish :)
[01:24] <anu> !ipod
[01:24] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[01:24] <sirius> nosrednaekim: Translation -. Couldn't write the registry near open.... : there isn't space in the device
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> sirius: are you running out of disk space?
[01:25] <sirius> nosrednaekim: (it Is portugues :) I'm portuguese, well still i live in spain (study))
[01:25] <sirius> don't really think cuse i've a 160 HD
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> oh :)
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> sirius: all for linux?ok.
[01:25] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  but let me double che ceck ir
[01:25] <sirius> nosrednaekim: sorry ?
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> all 160GB are for linux?
[01:26] <sirius> nosrednaekim: 150 ive a 5 for recovery #"$#####%" and 5 is used by the hardware
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> sirius: none for window? ok.
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> sirius: try "sudo apt-get install firefox" again.
[01:29] <adenicio> who got experience with watchin videos in streamin with real player?i need the videos to play with real player but it only playing in the browser konqueror firefox :-(
[01:30] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  After bieng a Windows developer for something like 7 years I just get tired of all the things i couldn't do and all the money it was costing me, still I'm researching Wep cracking for a report at university i've done it before still using it in an windows environment AND I colnd inject any trafic so I needed linux, and after beryl I'm in love, I do research in robotics so Human interaction whit machines ergo Ergonomics, I just
[01:30] <sirius> needed to try that on
[01:30] <sirius> nosrednaekim: the same error with firefox
[01:30] <sirius> (still linux makes me smoke alot loll )
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> sorry...
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> sirius: I really don't know what the problem with dpkg is...
[01:31] <adenicio> sirius: how do u crack wep keys?
[01:32] <adenicio> who got experience with watchin videos in streamin with real player?i need the videos to play with real player but it only playing in the browser konqueror firefox :-(
[01:32] <sirius> adenicio: Well you should read something about Crypto Algos and Initialization vectors
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> sirius: did you ask on the portugeause channel?
[01:33] <sirius> adenicio: althoug it can be a pretty much automated proccess with the tools online today
[01:33] <sirius> nosrednaekim: Portugues no one reply and on the spanish they 're as lost as I am, still I thankyou your help, and you efforts
[01:34] <sirius> nosrednaekim:  this kind of support makes me really really love linux
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> sirius: well ok... run "sudo apt-get update again" and pastebin the output.
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[01:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:34] <adenicio> sirius: Crypto Algos and Initialization vectors???ok stop right there i sound to complicated for my chiken brain :-/
[01:34] <droach> man i didnt realize how slow a 450mhz was
[01:34] <droach> i remember when that was "bleeding edge"
[01:35] <adenicio> who got experience with watchin videos in streamin with real player?i need the videos to play with real player but it only playing in the browser konqueror firefox :-(
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> sirius: if all else fails.. leave a post on the ubuntu forums.
[01:36] <sirius> adenicio: that's the theory but you realy don't need it , you can just donwload some apps and crack (with enought data packets) a small 64bit key whithout that much effort
[01:36] <sirius> nosrednaekim: I can't open paste.ubunt......
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> adenicio: if you have an atheros in linux, you can do it easily with aircrack and aireplay
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> sirius: right... lol... can you PM me?
[01:36] <sirius> sure
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> paste it there.
[01:37] <droach> god i love linux
[01:37] <sirius> nosrednaekim: It's still running
[01:37] <sirius> just a moment please
[01:37] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: sirius:lol u all are talkin the the room how to decrypt wep keys isnt it elegal here?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> sirius: ok.. let it go..
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> adenicio:probably... sssshhhhh!
[01:39] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: sirius:if not can someone tell me how to use doscan to enter someone pc?
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> sirius: sorry,I have to go.
[01:39] <adenicio> nosrednaekim: lol
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> sirius: i'll stay logged on and PM the output... maybe someone else can help you..
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> I'll be back in about 30 minutes to an hour
[01:40] <sirius> adenicio: It's only ilegal if you  do it , know it is legal, and learn how to break and you will learn how to defend your self.
[01:40] <sirius> nosrednaekim: Ok Thank you :)
[01:40] <sirius> adenicio: well it's not related with WiFi Security but you might learn , something , www.net-force.nl, it's one of my favs
[01:42] <droach> i have another stupic question (i dont have alot of experience with linux and old pcs)
[01:42] <Arwen> go right ahead and ask
[01:42] <droach> i figured out that linux will detect my 80 hdd on a bios that cant support it so....
[01:42] <adenicio> join #net-force
[01:43] <droach> i was wondering if i could put grub on a cd and get that to load linux on my hdd
[01:43] <adenicio> lol i taugh it was a chanel
[01:43] <carbonfreeze> droach: you have 80mb hard disk? I have 55mb!
[01:43] <Ironic> Can't find a decent nick :/
[01:43] <Ironic> lolllll
[01:44] <carbonfreeze> it gets over 3.5Mb/s throughput!
[01:44] <droach> so can it be done?
[01:44] <sirius> adenicio: http://www.net-force.nl
[01:44] <carbonfreeze> droach: not sure, see if you can detect the disk with a live-cd like kubuntu or damn small linux
[01:45] <droach> yeah i could detect both my 40 gig and my 80 gig
[01:45] <carbonfreeze> you might need a boot floppy
[01:45] <droach> can i make a boot cd with grub
[01:46] <carbonfreeze> droach: I have never done so, but if you can make a floppy I'm sure you can make a bootable CD for grub menu. as long as the PC will boot form the cdrom
[01:46] <droach> well i still have the old 13 gig hardrive in there im going to hook all three up and boot from the 13 gig
[01:47] <carbonfreeze> i have a 4gb bigfoot
[01:47] <carbonfreeze> i also have a large electromagnet which is fun with hdd which are turned on
[01:47] <adenicio> ???
[01:48] <adenicio> how ironic
[01:48] <droach> i just have to figure out how to fit them all in this old nec case... i have an old emachine case (from a customers broken computer) i might take the hardrive cage out of there and shove it in the case
[01:49] <carbonfreeze> the big problem with ide hard disks is getting enough PCI IDE controllers for the old, small capacity drives
[01:50] <carbonfreeze> and a PSU that does not have a meltdown when spinning up all of those drives
[01:51] <droach> well i still have that emachines case but i dont know if the mainboard will fit in there
[01:51] <droach> or i could just try switching psu
[01:51] <ehc> how can I make a script run on startup?
[01:52] <droach> if your running kde put a script in there and chmod +x it.. ~/.kde/Autostart/
[01:54] <sparr> im trying to use an old ibook hard drive for a linux installation.  qtparted is telling me the partition changes cannot be committed, that i should unmount the drive.  it is not mounted.  if i edit the partition table in fdisk and reboot then fdisk sees the changes but qtparted still sees the old weird mac partition layout.  help?
[01:55] <sharkbrainguy> I'm trying to configure my windows (ntfs) drive to be easily accessible from my kde desktop. It now mounts on boot but tells me I don't have permissions to open it. this is the relevant line from fstab: /dev/hda1 /home/gerard/Desktop/Windows  auto users,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[01:56] <sharkbrainguy> how do I change the permissions
[01:56] <sharkbrainguy> ?
[01:56] <carbonfreeze> sharkbrainguy: 1). make sure it is mounted rw (it may not mount rw if dirty). 2). try umask=000 as option in fstab
[01:56] <carbonfreeze> writing to ntfs can be buggy; i prefer to setup a fat32 partition to share data or use a thumbdrive/network share
[01:57] <sharkbrainguy> how do I find out if it has mounted rw?
[01:57] <carbonfreeze> sharkbrainguy: mount
[01:57] <sharkbrainguy> cheers
[01:58] <sharkbrainguy> /dev/hda1 on /home/gerard/Desktop/Windows type ntfs (rw)
[01:58] <sharkbrainguy> seems to be fine'
[01:58] <sharkbrainguy> so I'll just try the umask thing
[01:58] <carbonfreeze> you will need to umount & mount the partition for changes to take effect
[02:00] <sharkbrainguy> truly you are a king among men
[02:01] <aryr100> hello all
[02:02] <elite101> Can someone *not* show me how to get a copy of windoze xp?
[02:02] <elite101> ;)
[02:03] <sharkbrainguy> I can *not* do that
[02:03] <elite101> lol
[02:03] <holycow> hi
[02:03] <elite101> hey
[02:03] <sharkbrainguy> in fact
[02:03] <sharkbrainguy> I can even *not* find my own copy
[02:03] <trekdanne> !piracy
[02:03] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[02:03] <droach> getting the os isnt hard its getting the wright coprate key for the right version thats um *not* hard
[02:03] <sharkbrainguy> which is annoying because I *need* it
[02:04] <droach> corprate
[02:04] <droach> corporate
[02:04] <droach> hell forget it
[02:04] <sharkbrainguy> third times the charm
[02:04] <carbonfreeze> i hate it when people invalidate my VLKs because they use it at home
[02:05] <droach> there is a program that you can get that will make it "believe" it is activated
[02:05] <aryr100> need to run this cmd (gedit /etc/apt/sources.list) in kubuntu but not working ?
[02:05] <aryr100> sorry noob to kde
[02:05] <Arwen> kde has Kate, not gedit.
[02:05] <Arwen> go complain to whoever wrote the page
[02:05] <carbonfreeze> gedit > Kate anyway...
[02:05] <Arwen> LIES
[02:05] <droach> you just have to use the trial remote installation key that comes on the cd. but i dont know what its called
[02:05] <Arwen> Kate is so much better
[02:05] <droach> kwrite
[02:05] <carbonfreeze> its slow to load, though
[02:06] <carbonfreeze> like emacs
[02:06] <carbonfreeze> except slower
[02:06] <sharkbrainguy> oooh burn on emacs
[02:06] <carbonfreeze> im using kde and gedit still loads faster than kwrite or Kate
[02:06] <trekdanne> touche
[02:06] <droach> gtg dinners ready :D
[02:06] <sharkbrainguy> use nano instead
[02:06] <droach> or vi
[02:06] <sharkbrainguy> it has a cooler name then any of them!
[02:06] <carbonfreeze> eh, I use zile or mec (micro-emacs)
[02:06] <trekdanne> or ed
[02:06] <carbonfreeze> nano is fast though
[02:06] <sharkbrainguy> load up notepad in wine
[02:06] <carbonfreeze> it only takes 5 seconds to load on 486 DX25
[02:06] <sharkbrainguy> for REAL POWER
[02:07] <trekdanne> nano is big for *huge* considering its features
[02:07] <carbonfreeze> sciTE is kind of neat, pain to compile sometimes though
[02:07] <aryr100> kk tried Kate/etc/apt/sources.list still not working ?
[02:08] <carbonfreeze> it should be sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:08] <carbonfreeze> from a konsole
[02:08] <carbonfreeze> or kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:08] <carbonfreeze> from the run command prompt in kde
[02:09] <KondeDrakul> anyone install kde4?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> aryr100: its a lowercase k.
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> kate
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> KondeDrakul: yep
[02:09] <KondeDrakul> could install with terminal ?
[02:10] <sharkbrainguy> can you not stretch icons in kde?
[02:10] <KondeDrakul> nosrednaekim ,is sudo aptitude install kde4 ?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> !kde4 | KondeDrakul
[02:10] <ubotu> KondeDrakul: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.
[02:11] <carbonfreeze> sharkbrainguy: system settings ~> appearance ~> icons ~> advanced
[02:11] <aryr100> running in konsole ran (sudo kate/etc/apt/sources.list) nope what i'am I missing ?
[02:11] <carbonfreeze> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:11] <carbonfreeze> needs to be a space
[02:11] <carbonfreeze> between the program and the file you want ot open
[02:11] <aryr100> kk thx
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> KondeDrakul: actually.. read this link.. http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> aryr100: its "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> carbonfreeze: you have to use kdesu with graphical programs
[02:13] <carbonfreeze> sudo gedit works for me =)
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> carbonfreeze: 1 thats a gnome programan 2 you are probably running gnome.
[02:15] <aryr100> kk working but getting X error ?
[02:15] <carbonfreeze> im running kde and i just used it with kwrite =)
[02:15] <carbonfreeze> only issue is /tmp permissions, but I'm betting kdesu has same issue
[02:15] <aryr100> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[02:16] <carbonfreeze> that is because kubuntu xorg.conf file is setup to use touchscreen devices as default, shouldnt be an issue for you normally
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> carbonfreeze: anyway... its not reccomended.
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> aryr100: thats fine
[02:16] <aryr100> were do I fix this @
[02:18] <KondeDrakul> nosrednaekim ,in adept i enable usupported packages but how i how what sort of they
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> KondeDrakul: what?
[02:20] <KondeDrakul> nosrednaekim,what are files kde4 to install ,how i find it
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> KondeDrakul: just search for kde4 and install them all :)
[02:21] <KondeDrakul> nosrednaekim,there are a lot of files there called kde4....
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> lol... well you only need some basic ones.
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> like KDe4 base.. and kde4base-dev
[02:24] <carbonfreeze> KondeDrakul: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php
[02:24] <flaccid> why would you need kde4-dev
[02:24] <KondeDrakul> ok thankz
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> IDK.. the page reccomends it
[02:30] <flaccid> wierd
[02:30] <flaccid> no idea why..
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:36] <KondeDrakul> nosrednaekim,the package Kde4admin-dev cannot be installed
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> heh... on't complain to me :)
[02:36] <carbonfreeze> breakage ftw
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> KondeDrakul: you don't need that anyway.
[02:36] <KondeDrakul> ok, i install the others
[02:37] <carbonfreeze> i doubt kde4 is going to be usable
[02:37] <KondeDrakul> carbonfreeze ,why you say that ?
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> heh... it isn't :)
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> but I like using some kde4 apps from kde3
[02:38] <aaron_> so whats the compression gui utility of choice?
[02:38] <carbonfreeze> because its beta, and there are only like 2 kde4 apps
[02:38] <carbonfreeze> tar cvf =)
[02:38] <carbonfreeze> eh, ark works ok
[02:38] <KondeDrakul> a ok
[02:39] <aaron_> is there anything that can let me choose custom compression?
[02:39] <flaccid> what is custom compression?
[02:39] <KondeDrakul> is better waiting for version more stable
[02:39] <MacZtttlkwork> OMG
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> carbonfreeze: thats not ture.. there are lots of Kde4 apps!
[02:40] <aaron_> well, for instance. right click on a folder. "create archive" and i don't want to use the default level for 7zip, i want to use the max compression. not an option
[02:40] <MacZtttlkwork> I've written my password in the username account and now it appears when writting, how can I delete it?
[02:40] <Arwen> eh? my archival tool of choice is 7z
[02:40] <Arwen> aaron_, there isn't a comprehensive frontend. You'll just have to open a terminal.
[02:40] <MacZtttlkwork> I mean in my e-mail account with Konqueror.
[02:40] <flaccid> aaron_: hmm nothing i know of besides editing options when making the archive. krusader is handy for archiving..
[02:40] <aaron_> grr. see. it's stuff like that. the seemingly simple things that will keep linux off of desktops.
[02:41] <flaccid> its not on windows either aaron
[02:41] <elite101> im getting Fedora Core and im confused there is one that says Fedore-8-Test-1-KDE-live-i686 lol is that one going to use the KDE?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> MacZtttlkwork: lol... its somewhere hidden deep within the settings
[02:41] <aaron_> flaccid: sure it is.
[02:41] <flaccid> and if you want it, develop it
[02:41] <flaccid> what is aaron, exactly?
[02:41] <MacZtttlkwork> what's the English for that thing? "forms"?
[02:41] <aaron_> compression options?
[02:41] <Arwen> aaron_, no it isn't. On Windows, each individual tool has its own GUI. But there's no one unifying tool.
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> MacZtttlkwork: for what?
[02:42] <aaron_> Arwen: i'd settle for one. :)
[02:42] <carbonfreeze> right click file ~> Compress ~> Compress As .zip or whatever
[02:42] <flaccid> natively, windows only really has zip support
[02:42] <carbonfreeze> in kde
[02:42] <flaccid> i've never seen something native in a desktop os which lets you choose compression level on right click. you are welcome to contribute to ark/kde to give this functionality or request it to the ark devs
[02:43] <MacZtttlkwork> Please, this computer is used by a lot of people and I don't want them to be playing with my e-mail account
[02:43] <carbonfreeze> so make different user accounts?
[02:43] <flaccid> MacZtttlkwork: ok cool
[02:43] <aaron_> not ON the right click. on the menu the right click brings up.
[02:43] <sparr> how can i connect to my wireless network using WPA2 in kubuntu?
[02:43] <flaccid> aaron_: yeah either way
[02:43] <flaccid> sparr: use knetworkmanager icon in tray
[02:44] <MacZtttlkwork> the user account starts with no password
[02:44] <MacZtttlkwork> is the same for all
[02:44] <MacZtttlkwork> my brother said it was easier to keep the settings
[02:44] <sparr> flaccid: its not there
[02:44] <carbonfreeze> ah, so automatic login is enabled
[02:44] <MacZtttlkwork> yup
[02:44] <carbonfreeze> you can disable that, and add users, in system settings
[02:44] <MacZtttlkwork> but I don't want to do that :S
[02:45] <MacZtttlkwork> my brother uses kopete
[02:45] <MacZtttlkwork> and my sister
[02:45] <MacZtttlkwork> and... etc.
[02:45] <aaron_> or this: open an archive of some sort. i want one file out of it. i want to just click and drag it out. pretty simple.
[02:45] <flaccid> sparr: goto like run command and run knetworkmanager
[02:45] <MacZtttlkwork> so there is no option to delete that, like in firefox?
[02:45] <carbonfreeze> aaron_: I'm pretty sure you can do this with ARK
[02:45] <flaccid> MacZtttlkwork: each user should have their own system and IM accounts.
[02:46] <MacZtttlkwork> Kopete supports multiple accounts with the same user.
[02:46] <flaccid> bad practice to share accounts of any kind really
[02:46] <flaccid> indeed it does
[02:46] <carbonfreeze> aaron_: double click archive; it opens in ark. right click file you want to extract and select extract.
[02:46] <flaccid> not to be rude, but why would you add someone elses msn account or whatever under your user - they should add it in their own account
[02:46] <MacZtttlkwork> anyway I use aMSN...lol
[02:46] <carbonfreeze> he doesn't want to have multiple user accounts or Xorg sessions flaccid
[02:47] <aaron_> carbonfreeze: cool. that's good enough :)
[02:47] <flaccid> why carbonfreeze, MacZtttlkwork?
[02:47] <MacZtttlkwork> If I create more accounts I get problems with "sudo" and such things...
[02:47] <flaccid> well i would advise fixing those problems rather than sharing accounts
[02:47] <MacZtttlkwork> The question here is, can Konqueror's autoforms be deleted?
[02:47] <flaccid> we can help you with those specific sudo problems whatever they are
[02:48] <flaccid> yes the private data in konqi can be deleted
[02:48] <aaron_> so, instead of writing my own programs, which isn't going ot happen. where can i offer suggestions and help with ark development?
[02:49] <aaron_> how does something like that work?
[02:49] <flaccid> aaron_: goto the about box for ark
[02:49] <MacZtttlkwork> Well, we could... but my e-mail account's password is still there
[02:49] <MacZtttlkwork> :-O
[02:49] <flaccid> aaron_: authors email addies directly in there
[02:50] <aaron_> yeah, there's a bunch of em
[02:50] <flaccid> you might also like to checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_(computing)
[02:51] <aaron_> i really wish someone would just port 7zips gui ;)
[02:51] <aaron_> but i'll look at that
[02:51] <elite101> anyone have a fedora 7 download link? the ones on there site for 32bit versions open up KATE >.<
[02:51] <MacZtttlkwork> I have deleted konqueror with adept :-D
[02:51] <flaccid> if you don't use krusader yet, give it at try :)
[02:51] <MacZtttlkwork> But now I don't have a filemanager...
[02:51] <MacZtttlkwork> is Dolphin backported?
[02:51] <carbonfreeze> 7zip is pretty cool
[02:51] <flaccid> elite101: wget the file instead or change the association
[02:52] <flaccid> MacZtttlkwork: that won't purge/delete the private data
[02:52] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlkwork: removing konqueror does not remove your settings for konqueror. Reinstall it
[02:52] <flaccid> !info krusader
[02:52] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0~beta1-1 (feisty), package size 2982 kB, installed size 8324 kB
[02:52] <MacZtttlkwork> ok thanks
[02:52] <elite101> flaccid, how do i change that?
[02:52] <elite101> im using firefox...
[02:52] <MacZtttlkwork> where can I contact with the developers...
[02:53] <MacZtttlkwork> to ask them about a privacy menu?
[02:53] <Arwen> anyone tried the KDE4 beta?
[02:53] <sparr> flaccid: i dont have knetworkmanager.
[02:53] <flaccid> sparr: install it via adept
[02:54] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlkwork: what are you trying to remove?
[02:54] <aaron_> flaccid: if you actually knew sparrs personality, he'd rather configure it with magic and willpower than install knetworkmanager.
[02:54] <flaccid> elite101: manage file types in prefs of firefox and also check konquer file associations
[02:54] <MacZtttlkwork> the password
[02:54] <MacZtttlkwork> wich is in an autoform
[02:54] <MacZtttlkwork> or whatever is the name
[02:54] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlkwork: wait 1
[02:54] <flaccid> aaron_: that defeats the purpose of kubuntu. maybe debian or gentoo is more what hes looking for...
[02:55] <flaccid> MacZtttlkwork: you might like to try #kde or #konqueror if it exists
[02:55] <MacZtttlkwork> oh, that's a good point
[02:55] <MacZtttlkwork> I'll see
[02:55] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlkwork: open kwalletmanager
[02:55] <flaccid> you can run wpasupplicant and all that manual if you really want.. thats how it was in the past for ubuntu
[02:55] <aaron_> i <3 debian.
[02:56] <sparr> flaccid: from where?
[02:56] <aaron_> gentoo takes WAY too much time :)
[02:56] <MacZtttlkwork> In konqueror there are 3 people
[02:56] <flaccid> sparr: what from where?
[02:56] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlkwork: goto maps, delete the passwords you dont want saved
[02:56] <sparr> flaccid: install knetworkmanager
[02:56] <MacZtttlkwork> maps
[02:56] <flaccid> aaron_: isn't that what he wants to do, waste time :)
[02:56] <aaron_> sparr: open konsole
[02:56] <aaron_> flaccid: yes.
[02:56] <flaccid> !info knetworkmanager
[02:56] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1496 kB
[02:56] <flaccid> its in main
[02:56] <flaccid> so just install it
[02:56] <aaron_> sparr: sudo aptitude install knetworkmanager
[02:56] <flaccid> adept or apt-get
[02:57] <sparr> err
[02:57] <sparr> did we miss the part where im trying to get connected to the network?
[02:57] <aaron_> flaccid: see.
[02:57] <aaron_> it's probably not going to happen without a wired con. first.
[02:57] <carbonfreeze> sparr: lol. your using kubuntu and knetworkmanager isn't working?
[02:57] <sparr> carbonfreeze: its not installed, apparently
[02:58] <flaccid> errrr. if the driver for the wireless card is working then knetworkmanager *should* work
[02:58] <carbonfreeze> sparr: it should be by default, your running 7.04 (feisty fawn)?
[02:58] <flaccid> which version of kubuntu is this sparr
[02:58] <aaron_> sparr: rebuild.
[02:58] <sparr> edgy
[02:58] <sparr> 6.10
[02:58] <aaron_> sparr: rebuild twice just for luck.
[02:58] <carbonfreeze> ahh
[02:58] <carbonfreeze> you need a wired connection, then do a dist-upgrade to 7.04
[02:59] <carbonfreeze> sparr: using wpa2 with wireless card? which card?
[02:59] <sparr> carbonfreeze: intel 2200
[02:59] <flaccid> carbonfreeze: no thats incorrect
[02:59] <flaccid> you don't need to upgrade to feisty to get wireless!
[02:59] <sparr> im trying to work out the syntax for wpa_supplicant now
[02:59] <carbonfreeze> flaccid: 6.10 has networkmanager?
[02:59] <sparr> i am going to upgrade to feisty...
[02:59] <carbonfreeze> well no ****
[02:59] <elite101> well i will be switiching to F7 later on tomarrow im now what i call "distro-surfing"
[03:00] <sparr> as soon as i can get on a network
[03:00] <flaccid> you can install it
[03:00] <flaccid> or do wpa supplicant manual as per wiki iirc
[03:00] <sparr> ill probably be upgrading to gutsy, actually
[03:00] <elite101> but kubuntu is still my "home-distro/os"
[03:00] <carbonfreeze> well, i was going to get him setup so he could actually get online to do installs, if the ipw2100 firmware is installed by default in 6.10
[03:00] <carbonfreeze> is ipw2100 in 6.10?
[03:00] <sparr> ipw = Intel ipw2100/2200 driver
[03:00] <flaccid> only 2200 i believe
[03:00] <sparr> thats from wpa_supplicant help
[03:01] <flaccid> ipw didn't work with 2100 for a mate iirc
[03:01] <aaron_> good.
[03:01] <flaccid> but you can try
[03:01] <carbonfreeze> yeah, 2200 should work with 2100 adapters
[03:01] <flaccid> not always
[03:01] <flaccid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/ipw2200
[03:02] <flaccid> !wireless
[03:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:02] <flaccid> i can remember that i had to do some manual stuff for 6.10 intel bg2200
[03:02] <flaccid> just can't find any info really
[03:03] <carbonfreeze> yeah wait1 ill see if i can find it. have to manually load firmware or modprobe IIRC
[03:03] <flaccid> this should help v
[03:03] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu
[03:03] <flaccid> yep something weird and manual edit of wpasupplicant.conf or something iirc
[03:04] <MacZtttlkwork> hey people
[03:04] <MacZtttlkwork> here's the solution for my stupid problem:
[03:04] <aaron_> sparr: what's stopping you from plugging a cable into your laptop?
[03:04] <carbonfreeze> rm ~/.kde ? =)
[03:04] <MacZtttlkwork> go to execute, write kcontrol
[03:04] <sparr> ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported
[03:04] <MacZtttlkwork> and then go to privacy and, that's it!
[03:04] <sparr> aaron_: no cable, no switch, no physical access
[03:05] <flaccid> carbonfreeze: please don't ever msg that command
[03:05] <sparr> Trying to associate with [mac address]  (SSID='myessid' freq=0 MHz)  <--  why 0?
[03:05] <aaron_> sparr: so you're either sitting at panera bread with two laptops, or you're stealing your neighbors wifi.
[03:05] <aaron_> heh.
[03:05] <MacZtttlkwork> lol
[03:06] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlkwork: you should still setup seprate user accounts
[03:06] <flaccid> sparr: whats the status of it in ifconfig ?
[03:06] <sparr> flaccid: invisible.  in iwconfig its there, but i dont know what to look for
[03:06] <MacZtttlkwork> carbonfreeze, tomorrow I will ask my brother to do so... and I'll tell you about the sudo problems
[03:06] <flaccid> can you pastebin the output of it in ifconfig please
[03:06] <sparr> iwconfig says eth1 unassociated mode:managed channel=0...
[03:06] <sparr> no, i cant
[03:06] <flaccid> sparr: see if scanning says iwlist eth1 scanning
[03:06] <sparr> because its not on a network
[03:06] <aaron_> sparr: take the laptop that is sucessfully stealing internet from your neighbor, turn on internet connection sharing. connect the two laptops with a cat5. enjoy shared internet access on your linux boxen.
[03:07] <carbonfreeze> lol
[03:07] <sparr> aaron_: dont have any cat5.  or an ethernet port.
[03:07] <flaccid> sparr: well we will assume the iface is set up right
[03:07] <sparr> and i really dont feel like setting up usbnet
[03:07] <flaccid> sparr: iwlist work ok?
[03:08] <aaron_> is the network card not functional?
[03:08] <flaccid> it sounds like it is. but need to confirm scanning with iwlist...
[03:08] <aaron_> i meant the one with the rj45 port attached to it
[03:09] <sparr> flaccid: yes, 'iwlist eth1 scanning' sees my two wifi networks
[03:09] <aaron_> "my"
[03:09] <sparr> aaron_: there is no ethernet card
[03:09] <flaccid> so like you can do sudo iwconfig eth1 essid my
[03:09] <_aaa> got Mp3 player that says it will only use win 2000 or Vista for downloads, is there any other way?
[03:09] <flaccid> as per man iwconfig which has examples
[03:09] <flaccid> you can also follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[03:10] <aaron_> flaccid: he can't read that. no network cards or wireless.
[03:10] <aaron_> he's chatting on his TTY telephone.
[03:10] <flaccid> _aaa: plug it in and see if it supports usb mass storage
[03:10] <carbonfreeze> MacZtttlwork: thats strage; just tried adding a user in 7.10 and its not allowing graphical sudo (gksudo or kdesu) to elevate privelages
[03:10] <flaccid> aaron_: then how is he on irc
[03:10] <sparr> flaccid: did iwconfig essid...  already
[03:10] <_aaa> it wont hurt my unit?
[03:10] <carbonfreeze> _aaa: try amarok?
[03:11] <aaron_> _aaa: no. it won't. what kind of player is it?
[03:11] <flaccid> sparr: you obviously have to the wpasupplicant component to associate with wpa2 passphrase etc. start reading...
[03:11] <flaccid> _aaa: nope
[03:11] <MacZtttlkwork> see you
[03:11] <sparr> flaccid: wpa_supplicant is throwing errors
[03:11] <aaron_> sparr: if it's actually YOUR network, turn off encryption for a little bit and update your crap.
[03:11] <sparr> not covered in either howtos
[03:11] <_aaa> GPX from Kohls
[03:11] <aaron_> plug it in and see what happens.
[03:11] <sparr> aaron_: that will disconnect my clients.  so, no.
[03:11] <flaccid> sparr: thats what happens when you go manual when you don't need to :)
[03:11] <sparr> flaccid: dont need to?
[03:12] <aaron_> you have clients? but no switch, cat5, or network cards.
[03:12] <flaccid> knetworkmanager should be able to handle the config and connection fine..
[03:12] <carbonfreeze> aaron_: fishy +1
[03:12] <_aaa> thank you
[03:12] <sparr> flaccid: i agree.  but i dont have knetworkmanager.
[03:12] <Berzerker> anyone here?
[03:12] <aaron_> Berzerker: just us beez.
[03:12] <Berzerker> kk
[03:12] <Berzerker> so
[03:12] <Berzerker> I'm using kubuntu on my Macbook pro
[03:12] <aaron_> no, were not talking today.
[03:13] <Berzerker> And my sound doesn't work.
[03:13] <flaccid> sparr: not much you can do... sorry but i dont have time to help in detail with a manual wpasupplicant.. i remember how much of a pain it was back then
[03:13] <Berzerker> However, all macbook pro install tutorials I've read say sound works out of the box.
[03:13] <Berzerker> but, not for me.
[03:13] <flaccid> you could d/l knetworkmanager's .deb and copy it to this box and then install it with dpkg
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, did you unmute the card?
[03:13] <elite101> On the radio earlyer today there was a kid that his Xbox360 was heating and so he sealed it in plastic bag and dipped it in cooled water, but he forgot that it was still plugged in and his mom came home to find him unconshis (cant spell it) just to keep the 360 cool
[03:13] <aaron_> sparr: go to one of your "clients" and borrow the long thing plastic noodle from it for a minute.
[03:13] <carbonfreeze> Berzerker: is anything muted in alsamixer?
[03:13] <Berzerker> how would I check that?
[03:13] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, open up kmix
[03:14] <sparr> flaccid: the wiki link assumes i have knetworkmanager
[03:14] <sparr> aaron_: they are all wireless
[03:14] <aaron_> of course they are.
[03:14] <flaccid> sparr: indeed
[03:14] <Berzerker> all things on output are at 100
[03:14] <elite101> read that storry that was on the new's ^^^^^^^^
[03:14] <Berzerker> input is all 0
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, are all the green lights on?
[03:14] <Berzerker> switches is all mic
[03:14] <Berzerker> yes
[03:14] <aaron_> yes. FANS work best to cool things off.
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, hmmm, strange...
[03:14] <aaron_> or mineral oil
[03:15] <Berzerker> I can give my lspci info if you want
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, probably won't help in this case
[03:15] <Berzerker> mmk
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, ok, open up alsamixer in a konsole
[03:15] <Berzerker> yakuake ok?
[03:16] <Berzerker> any terminal?
[03:16] <carbonfreeze> Berzerker: try opening a konsole, enter "dmesg|grep ALSA" and see if there are any error messages
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, anything with a cli is fine :)
[03:16] <aaron_> bi bi
[03:16] <Berzerker> k
[03:16] <Berzerker> alsamixer is open
[03:16] <Tomi-idle> yakuake is great, use it ;)
[03:16] <Berzerker> I know :P
[03:16] <carbonfreeze> yakuake...?
[03:16] <Tomi-idle> they should integrate it to kde
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> carbonfreeze, its a different terminal app
[03:16] <Berzerker> quake style terminal
[03:16] <Berzerker> apt-get install yakuake
[03:16] <Berzerker> it's good
[03:17] <Tomi-idle> carbonfreeze: a terminal program that slides from top of your screen.
[03:17] <carbonfreeze> oh, one of those
[03:17] <sparr> how can i get an on screen keyboard for logging in via kdm?
[03:17] <Tomi-idle> sparr: not sure you can but definately an interesting idea
[03:18] <carbonfreeze> xkbd ?
[03:18] <Tomi-idle> xvkbd -geometry -300-100 -no-keypad&
[03:18] <sparr> Tomi-idle: that would make kubuntu particularly not-useful on a tablet
[03:18] <sparr> i know how to get an OSK in general...  how do i get one at the kdm login?
[03:19] <Tomi-idle> sparr: im sure theres a solution, just thought of it interesting personally (as in cool) ;)
[03:19] <Berzerker> ok
[03:19] <Berzerker> so
[03:19] <Berzerker> alsamixer is open
[03:19] <hitmanWilly> sparr, maybe add it to the kdm startup script?
[03:19] <sparr> aaron__: i beat wpa_supplicant into submission.  so :-p
[03:19] <flaccid> autostart occurs on login iirc
[03:19] <RobNyc> !kde
[03:19] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[03:19] <sparr> now, everyone with me luck on dist-upgrade from edgy to gutsy
[03:19] <flaccid> sparr: you fixed the wirless?
[03:19] <carbonfreeze> Berzerker: check to make sure mixer channels left & right, PCM, Master, Master Mono, Headphone are not muted
[03:20] <Berzerker> everything is 100
[03:20] <Berzerker> except captures
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, i was saying add it to an rc script
[03:20] <sparr> flaccid: yes.  i messed up a parameter in wpa_supplicant.conf
[03:20] <Berzerker> headphones was at 95...just changed it to 100 :P
[03:20] <carbonfreeze> sparr: you should dist-upgrade to feisty first IIRC
[03:20] <hayami> xd
[03:20] <flaccid> sparr: cool. any reason why you want beta OS ?
[03:20] <flaccid> hitmanWilly: rc script?
[03:21] <carbonfreeze> Berzerker: exit alsamixer and try "dmesg|grep ALSA" and see if there are any errors
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> flaccid anything after X starts should work
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> i would think anyway
[03:21] <Tomi-idle> sparr: this might be a solution http://forums.xandros.com/viewtopic.php?t=17406
[03:21] <Berzerker> none
[03:21] <Berzerker> no errors
[03:21] <flaccid> hitmanWilly: yeah it needs to go in that file that calls startkde - can't remember what that is
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> Berzerker, any thing with an M at the bottom?
[03:22] <sparr> flaccid: i WANT debian unstable, with kubuntu's integration.  but i cant have that.  so im stuck with ubuntu+1
[03:22] <Berzerker> an M?
[03:22] <Berzerker> at the bottom of what
[03:22] <megatog615> In alsamixer
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> flaccid, something in /etc/X11/ probably
[03:22] <Berzerker> MM
[03:22] <Berzerker> I see
[03:22] <megatog615> Hit M to unmute the channel
[03:22] <NeweWave> Hi, Everybody! I have a problem with my wi-fi device and I'm not to get a solution. Anybody can help me? My device is Atheros 5007 on kubuntu 7.04!
[03:22] <flaccid> sparr: any particular reason why? something specific you need?
[03:22] <NeweWave> sorry my english
[03:22] <Berzerker> IEC958
[03:22] <megatog615> Apparently the volume on Macbook Pros are muted by default
[03:23] <sparr> flaccid: many things.  im a gamer, and i "cant" wait 6 months for new libraries and/or new games.
[03:23] <carbonfreeze> sparr: skipping distros in the dist-upgrade path breaks things IIRC
[03:23] <Berzerker> uhm
[03:23] <Berzerker> I unmuted it
[03:23] <Berzerker> but I can't change the volum
[03:23] <Berzerker> e
[03:23] <Berzerker> it stays at 00
[03:24] <flaccid> sparr: true but you can upgrade those manually in say feisty. no need to go beta OS userland.
[03:24] <sparr> carbonfreeze: it does.  completely doesnt work.  apt-get thinks i have auto-remove packages that are also essential  :)
[03:24] <megatog615> 00 means it's on
[03:24] <Berzerker> oh
[03:24] <Berzerker> ok
[03:24] <Berzerker> well
[03:24] <flaccid> i've pulled off a dapper to gutsy upgrade before
[03:24] <Berzerker> still no sound
[03:24] <megatog615> turn PCM on
[03:24] <carbonfreeze> sparr: so why you want to dist-upgrade from 6x to 7.10? heh
[03:24] <hayami> anyone can help me? cuz in compiz-fusion no one tells me nothing, can i have beryl and compiz-fusion at the same time? =o
[03:24] <megatog615> PCM and Master should both be on to enable sound file playback
[03:24] <Berzerker> Master
[03:24] <Berzerker> I don't see that
[03:25] <crxyem> lo all
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> hayami, probably, but not running at the same time
[03:25] <megatog615> What's the first one there?
[03:25] <sparr> flaccid: where do i upgrade them from?  when they rely on new libraries, i have to get those from gutsy
[03:25] <Berzerker> Headphone
[03:25] <megatog615> I have Master, Master Mono, PCM, etc
[03:26] <NeweWave> Hi, Everybody! I have a problem with my wi-fi device and I'm not to get a solution. Can anybody help me? My device is Atheros 5007 on kubuntu 7.04!
[03:26] <Berzerker> =hmm
[03:26] <Berzerker> weird
[03:26] <Berzerker> now I have a red light coming out of my headphone port
[03:26] <megatog615> Means it's on :)
[03:26] <Berzerker> uhm
[03:26] <megatog615> New laptops have lights to show where the port is in low light conditions
[03:26] <flaccid> sparr: yep exactly :)
[03:26] <megatog615> brb
[03:27] <flaccid> sparr: im on gutys and yeah buggy still
[03:27] <Berzerker> still no sound
[03:27] <Berzerker> lol
[03:27] <Berzerker> I have it plugged in
[03:27] <flaccid> NeweWave: don't repeat
[03:27] <flaccid> !wireless > NeweWave
[03:27] <flaccid> see if that can help you
[03:28] <hayami> o thanks hitmanwilly
[03:28] <carbonfreeze> gutsy: I haven't had too many issues, atleast my home partition doesn't have a bunch of output from /dev/urandom...
[03:28] <NeweWave> ok, flaccid: I'm sorry!
[03:28] <NeweWave> :)
[03:28] <NeweWave> !wireless
[03:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:28] <flaccid> np NeweWave. someone will always help if they can
[03:28] <flaccid> google is also good
[03:30] <NeweWave> I already search in google, but I'm not had success
[03:30] <NeweWave> :(
[03:31] <carbonfreeze> yakuake is nice
[03:32] <flaccid> yakuake rules, except 1 bug im waiting to be fixed
[03:32] <crxyem> so, if I update/upgrade from 6.10 Edgy Eft, to 7.04, I'm using Connection-Manger for the wireless manager, verses wlassistant or kwifimanager. any opinions as to if an upgrade will be a problem
[03:32] <carbonfreeze> flaccid: what kind of issues?
[03:32] <Berzerker> I still don't have any sound
[03:32] <flaccid> carbonfreeze: losss of line breaks when pasting in
[03:32] <Berzerker> my headphone port is on, but I'm getting no sound
[03:32] <carbonfreeze> flaccid: ack
[03:32] <flaccid> crxyem: in theory no, in practice possibly
[03:33] <raven24> hi! i have a very annoying problem: no sound with an ICH8 chipset (lspci says: 82801H (ICH8 Family)). everything unmuted, snd-hda-intel module loaded and all players (like amarok) act like there is everything ok but i can't hear anything
[03:33] <flaccid> NeweWave: that card doesn't loook supported
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> raven24: all volume sliders at MAX?
[03:34] <raven24> yes... in kmix and alsamixer and every other mixer i can find
[03:34] <Berzerker> I have the same
[03:34] <Berzerker> chipset
[03:34] <Berzerker> as raven24
[03:34] <carbonfreeze> raven24: are you using 2.1 speakers or a headphone plugged into the middle channel? or are you using 5.1 setup?
[03:34] <Berzerker> same problem
[03:34] <flaccid> NeweWave: more info : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/129463
[03:35] <raven24> it's a notebook ... so i have only the built-in and a earphone plug
[03:35] <crxyem> well, I guess all I can do is give it a go,
[03:36] <NeweWave> thanks, flaccid!
[03:36] <Berzerker> raven, is this a mac?
[03:36] <NeweWave> :)
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> Berzerker: raven24: IDK... each individual chipset seems different. ask in #alsa. or look up your laptop model on www.linux-laptop.net
[03:36] <raven24> no. intel
[03:36] <Berzerker> no no
[03:36] <Berzerker> what kind of laptop is it
[03:37] <flaccid> NeweWave: np. it doesn't look good. see if the inf files work from the http://www.atheros.cz/ with ndiswrapper. but yeah it doesn't look good. atheros don't have *nix support generally. suggest buying a better card..
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> atheros have the best linux support after Intels!
[03:38] <flaccid> nosrednaekim: are you kidding me?
[03:38] <raven24> dimotion strongbook - from a local computer vendor. uses an intel mainboard and the rest can be configured individually
[03:38] <nosrednaekim> flaccid: nope :)
[03:39] <flaccid> nosrednaekim: well not from what im' reading. there is linux support, but not from them and there are lots of issues
[03:39] <flaccid> NeweWave: you need http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> yeah... mostly with HAL... but that shoul be fixed soon with OpenHAL
[03:40] <flaccid> yeah so its still not good enough basically
[03:41] <crxyem> one other q? about upgrading, I assume that any and all software packages I have installed will be retained
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> nope, not as goo as Intel.
[03:41] <crxyem> similar to a win2k to winxp upgrade etc...
[03:42] <crxyem> sorry for the ignorance but after using kubuntu for about 2yrs now, I've really only done fresh installs
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> crxyem: if they are from the official repositories, yes they will be kept
[03:42] <carbonfreeze> crxyem: as far as i know, the packages will be upgraded if a newer version is available, and all dependencies are available
[03:43] <raven24> Berzerker: nosrednaekim: i read at the kernel changelog of 2.6.22 that HD Audio should be supported, so i compiled it... but that was unsuccessful
[03:44] <crxyem> hmm, so there could be some problems with software that has been installed using checkinstall
[03:44] <flaccid> nope
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> raven24: yeah... my ATI HDA card worked far better in Gutsy (which uses the 2.6.22 kernel)
[03:44] <flaccid> if a .deb is installed in the pkgdb it doesn't matter what installed it. keep in mind that some packages are replaced/obsoleted in future releases
[03:45] <crxyem> thanks for the info flaccid
[03:45] <flaccid> np
[03:45] <raven24> ...for me there was no difference. it seems that my hardware is simply "too new"
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> raven24: thats the way with these new Intels...
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> raven24: you tried gutsy?
[03:49] <crxyem> so for example I have the  Bleeding edge wine packages in my sources.list and some other non official repositories in my sources.list they should be retained as well, and used during the update I presume
[03:49] <vip3rousmango> I'm having problems access winecfg and wine uninstaller.. they both give me error readings when I try to run them
[03:49] <flaccid> they won't get removed unless replaced by a dif package
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> get rid of any automatix lines..
[03:50] <crxyem> not using any automatix lines
[03:51] <crxyem> sweet, well, I'll try the upgrade then, just being a little cautious as I've never done this before, and don't want to do a fresh install again
[03:51] <flaccid> upgrades usually always have problems
[03:51] <raven24> nosrednaekim: yes. i replaced all "feisty"s with "gutsy"s at my sources.list and did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade...
[03:52] <flaccid> but if you know a lot about pkg management, you can usually do it
[03:52] <crxyem> usually do it, by fixing dependencies
[03:52] <flaccid> iirc you don't need to upgrade then dist-upgrade, just dist-upgrade
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> raven24: so you are basically running gutsy... ah.
[03:52] <flaccid> crxyem: many other possible situations/problems too
[03:52] <raven24> yes...
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> raven24: are you using the 2.6.22 kernel?
[03:52] <Tomi-idle> crxyem: you might want to use dist-upgrade few times to ensure that you got all upgraded packages
[03:53] <Tomi-idle> crxyem: last time it left some packages behind for me. so i used dist-upgrade until all was updated
[03:53] <raven24> uname -r : 2.6.22-9-generic
[03:53] <crxyem> so I should use the dist-upgrade vs the wizard that's avaliable from adept
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> raven24: go to #alsa... they can help you with sound there.
[03:53] <flaccid> what wizard?
[03:53] <Tomi-idle> crxyem: i've not had trouble with terminal, the adept updater always gives me problems
[03:53] <flaccid> oh
[03:53] <flaccid> you can do either crxyem
[03:53] <raven24> ok... thanks for the help
[03:54] <crxyem> I assume it would be safer if I used a wired network conenction
[03:54] <flaccid> reboot time
[03:54] <flaccid> bbs
[03:54] <Tomi-idle> crxyem: shouldn't matter unless you have problems with your connection :)
[03:55] <Tomi-idle> crxyem: just use dist-upgrade until it says there are no more packages upgradeable and you should be ok
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> crxyem: an faster..
[03:56] <crxyem> ok, I think I'll go read the wiki on it again
[03:58] <sayers> whats a good partiton type for backups?
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> sayers: anything but swap and vfat.
[03:59] <ubuntu_> no no no
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> what?
[03:59] <sayers> nosrednaekim: ill stick with ext3 ;] 
[04:00] <cje> hi, does anyone here have any experience using shockwave on Kubuntu?  I am supporting a local public middle school with FOSS, but a teacher wants to have students go to this site, which requires Adobe Shockwave:  http://www.explorelearning.com
[04:00] <genefitz> Sayers, for my back-up partition, I use ext3. Personal prefrence, the same with my extra media drive.
[04:00] <Bearcat> i considered rieser4 a short time ago, but i just don't trust it.
[04:00] <sayers> cje: hard to do
[04:00] <sayers> cje: not sure it's possible without wine.
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: it can kill ya you know ;)
[04:01] <genefitz> Bearcat: me either. I chose ext3 because I know that no matter what, any distro will be able to read it
[04:01] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: *laughs* yeah. I prefer reiserfs. It just seemed more stable then ext3, but that was a long time ago, so perhaps things have changed.
[04:02] <Bearcat> it always seemed that ext3 was ext2 + journaling (a patchup) but perhaps that's not so true anylonger
[04:02] <cje> sayers: here is a how-to .  http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_flash_player9
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> yeah... instead of crippling you... and making you go into a data-less coma... it kills you nice and mercifully.
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> :)
[04:03] <cje> sayers: maybe that just needs to be improved.
[04:03] <sayers> cje: that is flash, shockwave != flash last i checked
[04:03] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: O.o  I've used rieser for 7 years now and never had a problem *knock on plastic*
[04:03] <sayers> hm that works maybe cje?
[04:03] <sayers> worth a try
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: lol.
[04:06] <cje> sayers: sorry, what is worth a try?  You mean that link that I posted?  Sorry to be dense.  It's the end of a long day for me.
[04:06] <Bearcat> it's not right i tell you. My wife says i'm too much of a softie when it comes to my rottie. I only gave her a quarter of my cheesecake though.
[04:06] <sayers> yes cje
[04:06] <sayers> hah
[04:09] <flaccid> i feel hungover dammit.
[04:12] <elite101> anyone wanna help a child smile and send some HW over to me via FEDEX?
[04:13] <elite101> :) please :)
[04:14] <elite101> my adress is..
[04:15] <mignish> Has anyone heard of Ubuntu Server not finding the install image?
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> mignish, sounds like a screwed up cd
[04:16] <mignish> I've used about six CDs
[04:16] <mignish> and each time i've downloaded a new image
[04:17] <mignish> I've tested the integrety of the CD and it's good.. each time.
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> mignish, hmm, that's weird
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> probably not it then :)
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> any hw compatibility issues with your cd drive?
[04:18] <mignish> Never had a problem before.
[04:18] <mignish> I've installed the srever once with one of the CDs i used.
[04:18] <mignish> But i had the same error message.
[04:19] <mignish> i messed with it and finally got it. But i had to re-install... I'm new to the server world.
[04:19] <hitmanWilly> mignish, hmm, well you could try the alt cd, im pretty sure you can install a basic server setup with that
[04:19] <mignish> That's what I'm using.
[04:19] <mignish> I can't download debian... the download for netinstall won't work...
[04:20] <mignish> i guess i'll keep messing with ubuntu.
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> you could always try the full thing :)
[04:20] <mignish> Thanks for the input. I wasn't sure if this was common and I could find some info on it.
[04:20] <mignish> lol all of the deb cds
[04:20] <mignish> i'd loose them!
[04:20] <mignish> hehe
[04:21] <mignish> well, thanks again. Have a good night.
[04:22] <theverant> how can I define actions for effects in Compiz-Fusion?  There is a whole tabe for that in Gnome, but I'm not seeing anywhere to do it in KDE...
[04:22] <mika_> stop
[04:22] <mika_> exit
[04:22] <mika_> q
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> theverant: run "ccsm"
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> mika_, try /quit :)
[04:24] <theverant> nosrednaekim - that's what I'm talking about, I can't find anything in ccsm to define what sets off the actions
[04:24] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: wow. This place is like Hotel California.
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> which actions?
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> check out anytime you want...
[04:25] <juliano> hello
[04:25] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: but you can neve leave
[04:25] <theverant> define what corner, mouse button, etc for a given effect, like show desktop
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> XD
[04:26] <Bearcat> is it sad that i've been eagerly awating my ir blaster for a 3 days now. "its here! It's here!  Wait....i don't have a serial port." *cries*
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> theverant: hmmm yeah.. that seems to be missing. that used to be in berylmanager too
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, i think they make serial usb adapters
[04:27] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: i
[04:27] <Bearcat>  hitmanWilly i'd bet your right. Time to hit Ebay
[04:27] <theverant> nosrednaekim - I find it slightly problematic... especially since I just enabled show desktop and I don't know how... so now my windows are all gone. :|
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, i know at least they used to
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: most MB have serial pin DIP headers.
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> f3 or f
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> *f6
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> maybe..
[04:28] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: i have an Asus 8an-sli deluxe. After what I payed for that thing 3 years ago, i'm thinking it does  and i just lost the braket
[04:29] <theverant> meh.  I just want to set what the action is myself.
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: yeah... motherboards should have them
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, i have the same mobo, and yes it has one :)
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: ah.. we have the same MB... yeah its got a serial port
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: we use it for the mythTV control
[04:34] <HomeRoey> Hi
[04:35] <HomeRoey> why does my middle-mouse button not seem to work anymore?  It's been working for the past two weeks.  Now (as of the past two hours) it's just...stopped responding.  I'm talking about clicking the middle mouse button only--the scrollwheel works fine
[04:36] <Bearcat> alright folks, i could use a little bit of help here. I've set up kubuntu for a friend as my distro (source based and manual) would be to difficult. The last thing i am trying to do is get their scanner working. IT works on my kubuntu laptop and it workes on the kubuntu live disc. i'm not sure where to turn. I want to get it working wiht kooka
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, what type of scanner?
[04:36] <flaccid> !scanner
[04:36] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, hp?
[04:37] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: its a HP all-in-on C3180
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, ok, you need hplip and xsane
[04:37] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: i have uninstalled-reinstalled cups, kooka, hplip and xsane
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, IIRC
[04:38] <Bearcat> i started this pc on 6.07 and now it's on 7.04
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, did you run xsane and see if that worked?
[04:38] <Bearcat> i think there was a misconfig in 6.07
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, that could be the issue then, maybe a clean install?
[04:38] <Bearcat> i think so, let me try that again. Also to add to my pressure there is no working internet connection on that box either at this moment
[04:39] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: i'm about tempted to do that.
[04:39] <flaccid> did you purge the packages and/or remove andy ~/* configs for it
[04:39] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: but i hate to do that just for a scanner
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, ugh...what's the problem with internet?
[04:39] <Bearcat> flaccid: is there a remove all config files for this package option? (i'm old to linux but new to debian things
[04:39] <flaccid> yeah --purge
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, --purge should do it
[04:40] <flaccid> like sudo apt-get --purge pkg.deb
[04:40] <flaccid> i think thats it
[04:40] <Bearcat> hitmanWilly: it's all set up for dialup (yuk) and i don't want to mess up thier set-up
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> Bearcat, oh, sorry, don't know anything about that :P
[04:40] <Bearcat> --purge
[04:42] <Bearcat> doesn't kubuntu have a gui interface to route? I hate the route command line set-up
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> !route
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <Bearcat> xscan image tells me it finds no scanner
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> !find | route
[04:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about find - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> !find route
[04:43] <ubotu> Found: iproute, iproute-dev, iproute-doc, traceroute, fragroute (and 10 others)
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> !info fragroute
[04:45] <ubotu> fragroute: Test a NIDS by attempting to evade using fragmented packets. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-7.1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 132 kB
[04:45] <Bearcat> you know, route is volitile, so there must be a init.d script for it.
[04:45] <yurimxpxman> any ideas how to download the videos on this page? http://www.purevolume.com/videos/mxpx/sessions I'm stumped :/
[04:49] <_aaa> am I being heard?
[04:50] <Bearcat> _aaa: yes
[04:50] <_aaa> ty
[04:50] <Tm_T> or more precice, read
[04:51] <_aaa> got Mp3 player, don't know a thing about getting music to it
[04:51] <flaccid> _aaa: read the manual of the mp3 player
[04:51] <_aaa> did, it said use win 2000 or XTetc.
[04:52] <Tm_T> _aaa: you mean portable music device or music program?
[04:52] <flaccid> _aaa: yes and i told you to plug it in to usb and see if it supports usb mass storage, did you do that?
[04:52] <neptunepink> any idea on how to send a message to a (probably) windows pc on a wireless network using kubuntu?
[04:52] <dthacker> neptunepink: what kind of message?
[04:52] <flaccid> neptunepink: never found a program for that
[04:52] <_aaa> Mp3 player by GPX 1GB
[04:53] <Tm_T> neptunepink: hmm, Kopete
[04:53] <neptunepink> a 'hello there, wifi-thief' kind
[04:53] <flaccid> _aaa: so did you plug it in and test it or what?
[04:53] <theverant> _aaa - try it with Amarok
[04:53] <_aaa> no, I don't know what I 'm doing...
[04:53] <Bearcat> ok. network up now. Sweet
[04:53] <flaccid> _aaa: plug it in...
[04:53] <dthacker> neptunepink: don't advertise the connection, or call it "blank off, you!"
[04:54] <flaccid> so get the cable and plug it into your usb port then check storage devices in konqueror...
[04:54] <Tm_T> neptunepink: yup, Kopete
[04:54] <neptunepink> yeah, but no samba...
[04:54] <Tm_T> neptunepink: "winpopup" protocol
[04:54] <neptunepink> I saw it.
[04:54] <flaccid> this also might help _aaa http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=397939 --- googleing your mp3 player + ubuntu = results
[04:54] <dthacker> neptunepink: and changing the channel and keys on the router wouldn't hurt, either.
[04:54] <Tm_T> neptunepink: all I know, so...
[04:55] <_aaa> ok, got amarok ,but nothing there
[04:55] <theverant> neptunepink -  what you want is windows messenger (not MSN), but I don't know how you would access it from linux
[04:55] <Tm_T> neptunepink: how about not allowing to use it?
[04:55] <Tm_T> theverant: Kopete does it, with samba
[04:55] <emily_> does anyone know how to set up ipod support
[04:55] <flaccid> Tm_T: kopete can send windows messages?
[04:55] <Tm_T> yes
[04:55] <theverant> Nice
[04:55] <theverant> I'll have to test that at work tomorrow
[04:55] <Tm_T> "netsend" is win cmd equiv
[04:56] <_aaa> lrt me go there,ty
[04:56] <flaccid> cool
[04:56] <flaccid> now just need cli
[04:56] <dthacker> emily_: do you have a music player installed on your Kubuntu computer?
[04:56] <emily_> amarok
[04:56] <truckbytes> Does anyone know of a dbf viewer/editor for linux?
[04:56] <theverant> Amarok should handle iPod no prob
[04:56] <emily_> I'm not getting automount
[04:57] <theverant> Amarok never automounts my Zen
[04:57] <dthacker> emily_: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_amarok_ipod
[04:58] <arun> I am using Windows under VMWare. I want to install Fedora Core as well (under VMWare). How do I do that? How do I partition the free space, so that I can later install a third guest operating system as well if I wish to?
[04:58] <emily_> that page starts with "the ipod should get mounted automatically"
[04:58] <yurimxpxman> any ideas how to download the videos on this page? http://www.purevolume.com/videos/mxpx/sessions I'm stumped :/
[04:59] <flaccid> yurimxpxman: don't repeat. this is not the channel for that question, try #web
[04:59] <flaccid> !vmware
[04:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:59] <flaccid> you can also try #vmware
[05:00] <dthacker> emily_: when you plug in your ipod, do you see it appear on the desktop, or get prompted for how to handle it?
[05:00] <emily_> nope
[05:00] <emily_> that's the problem
[05:01] <dthacker> emily_: what version of Kubuntu?
[05:01] <emily_> I tried setting my own mount point but that didn't work either
[05:01] <emily_> 7.04
[05:02] <dthacker> do you see it in fstab?
[05:02] <Tm_T> GAAH!
[05:02] <Tm_T> sorry
[05:02] <emily_> nope
[05:02] <BluesKaj> emily_, does it appear in system menu/storage media ?
[05:02] <theverant> emily_ - does lsusb show the device?
[05:03] <emily_> how do I check lsusb
[05:03] <emily_> no it doesn't show up in /media/
[05:03] <theverant> type lsusb in a terminal
[05:03] <emily_> yeah the ipod shoes up
[05:03] <theverant> well, that's a start
[05:04] <truckbytes> Any suggestions for a dbf viewer?
[05:04] <emily_> where do we go from here
[05:07] <emily_> hmm
[05:07] <theverant> maybe try manually mounting it?
[05:08] <theverant> I'm not sure, I've never used iPod+Linux
[05:08] <dthacker> emily_: are your desktop preferences set to show mounted external storage?
[05:08] <emily_> I tried a manual mount
[05:08] <emily_> I would hope so
[05:08] <emily_> it's set to the default
[05:08] <theverant> what was the result of the manual mount?
[05:09] <emily_> I got nothing
[05:09] <theverant> do you know what dev the iPod is seen as?
[05:09] <emily_> gtkpod said it wasn't there
[05:09] <emily_> no but I'll look
[05:10] <theverant> what sort of iPod is it?
[05:10] <emily_> 30G generation 5
[05:11] <emily_> I think it's mounted at sdb
[05:11] <emily_> not mounted but at dev
[05:11] <theverant> and you tried setting it up in Amarok?  Like this: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[05:12] <emily_> yeah, but there's a step in there where you have to set the device as an ipod
[05:12] <emily_> and I've got no device sitting in that slot
[05:15] <emily_> fstab just has my main harddrive and the swap
[05:17] <emily_> oh well thanks for the help I'll just come back to it another time
[05:31] <dthacker> test
[05:31] <Bearcat> hmm. I notice that linux is at 2.6.17, but 2.6.22 is available. It is not set to upgrade. Are kernels not upgraded by default?
[05:32] <jhutchins> Bearcat: Some upgrades are recommended, others are optional.
[05:32] <Tomi-idle> dist-upgrade will upgrade to all newest packages
[05:32] <jhutchins> Bearcat: Given the current instabilities in various hardware drivers, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[05:36] <bryce_> Hey... does anyone know of any programs that record msn conversations?  specifically for gaim?
[05:37] <flaccid> !nsupdate
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nsupdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <NickPresta> bryce_, aside from text-logging?
[05:38] <bryce_> I need some sort of program that I can secretly record conversations between my daughter and some of her online friends.  She's been talking with an older guy online and I think he's trying to get her to do things.  I want to catch it in the act so I can contact the police about it.
[05:38] <Tm_T> !botsnack
[05:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:38] <Tm_T> ubotu <3
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Tm_T> hah
[05:38] <bryce_> NickPresta: text-logging?  Would that work?
[05:39] <NickPresta> bryce_, assuming she doesn't disable the logging, it should be fine.
[05:40] <flaccid> bryce_: logging is suffice
[05:40] <bryce_> She's not really smart on the computers, she just knows her msn, well, gaim now that we switched to linux the other day.  I didn't want to install a chat messenger but she managed to find out how.  Now I have to somehow catch this in the act.  I've already contacted the police and gave them the information.  I know for a fact he's over 30 yrs old and my daughter is 13.  If I could find this guy, I'd rip his balls off... but I'd rather see
[05:40] <bryce_> him in jail.
[05:41] <flaccid> logs..
[05:41] <bryce_> So how do I set up this text logging?
[05:41] <flaccid> its usually in the configuration of the program
[05:41] <bryce_> Do I have to have her password to get into gaim?  I've already tried her passwords I know of, I cannot figure out anything.
[05:41] <NickPresta> In Pidgin, and in Gaim, Tools > Preferences > Logging
[05:41] <flaccid> not if you have root/sudo access
[05:42] <dthacker> bryce_: sudo to root
[05:42] <NickPresta> it will save to .gaim/logs/*
[05:42] <bryce_> Could you maybe walk me through it?  I don't know how to really use linux yet?
[05:42] <flaccid> !root
[05:42] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:42] <dthacker> bryce_: when you installed the box, who was the first user created?
[05:43] <NickPresta> bryce_, in a Konsole, type: "kdesu konqueror". That will open up Konqueror with root permissions. Navigate to "/home/HERUSERNAME/" and then click on VIew > Show Hidden Files. Navigate to the ".gaim" directory and then into her "logs" folder. Copy/paste/open as you see fit.
[05:43] <bryce_> I uploaded everything
[05:43] <bryce_> I installed linux, but I was talking about her password for gaim.
[05:44] <NickPresta> bryce_, assuming she has logging enabled, you can literally "steal" the logs from her home folder, without her knowing
[05:44] <bryce_> OK... let me try that out NickPresta
[05:44] <NickPresta> bryce_, she is running on her own account, correct?
[05:44] <bryce_> Can I set logging enabled for her or no?
[05:44] <bryce_> Nope, she runs off my account
[05:45] <NickPresta> bryce_, open up Gaim > Tools > Preferences > Logging. Enable it.
[05:45] <bryce_> OK... so from this point after enabling it, I can view the conversations?  Unless she disables it correct?
[05:45] <NickPresta> bryce_, yes. And unless you alert her to the fact that you're monitoring her, she will have little reason to disable logging, assuming she even notices it is enabled.
[05:45] <flaccid> yep
[05:46] <bryce_> She doesn't know I'm monitoring her... her friend is the one that brought it to my attention because she was worried.
[05:46] <NickPresta> bryce_, then you should be good to go.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> !xdmcp
[05:47] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[05:47] <bryce_> OK... I selected it to log everything.
[05:47] <bryce_> So when I want to view the logs, where do I go?
[05:47] <Dr_willis>  /var/log normally
[05:47] <NickPresta> /home/username/.gaim/logs
[05:48] <Dr_willis> oh gaim. :) heh..
[05:48] <NickPresta> heh
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Phht on gaim.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <flaccid> haha aim sued em
[05:48] <bryce_> lol Thanks a lot!
[05:48] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends use aol'
[05:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <bryce_> So is there any other logs I can set up, just in case she does learn to disable it?
[05:49] <NickPresta> bryce_, I don't know of any that interface directly with gaim.
[05:49] <flaccid> nope
[05:49] <flaccid> unless you record keystrokes/video macro
[05:49] <Tomi-idle> you could listen to internet traffic, but that will be a bit more troublesome
[05:49] <Tomi-idle> msn isn't crypted as far as i know
[05:49] <NickPresta> Tomi-idle, using Wireshark, you can see plaintext conversations, yeah
[05:50] <NickPresta> however, that means a lot of searching and such. Far less ideal
[05:50] <bryce_> I just want to catch this dirty prick! It disgusts me that people like this ruin the anem of all us men.  I cannot understand why a guy would want to do this...
[05:50] <Bearcat> Icsn not get this scanner working inder kooka or sane for the life of me. sane-find-scanner locates it at "libusb:005:003" but how do i get kooka to see it? It work on my kubuntu laptop, but not my friends pc
[05:50] <Tomi-idle> bryce_: the world aint that pretty, especially when they think they're anonymous on the internet
[05:51] <michael_mcgee> can someone help me using Konversation?
[05:51] <Tomi-idle> michael_mcgee: what's your problem?
[05:51] <bryce_> Well I got his IP address and gave it to the police!  So there's one step, now they told me to monitor and copy the conversations.  That's the second step.  The third step is them stepping in and catching him in the action.
[05:51] <michael_mcgee> i need to connect to a different server for a friend who has a different distro.    Freenode #pclinuxos-support
[05:52] <michael_mcgee> omg i just connected using the link
[05:52] <michael_mcgee> nm
[05:52] <Tomi-idle> bryce_: there are ways he could route through another ip if he's tech savvy, check that he uses same IP
[05:52] <bryce_> Thanks a lot NickPresta for walking me thru the steps of setting up logging!  I really appreciate that!
[05:53] <bryce_> He does... he's stupid!  He even gave her his real name, which I tracked down to Edmonton, Alberta.  He wants to come here and visit her.  I'm kinda hoping he does!  Police told me I cannot go to him and do something, but if he comes here to try something, I can protect by daughter to all extents.
[05:54] <bryce_> ... and I'm a hunter :)  I've plenty of fun things I can use!
[05:54] <Tomi-idle> ouch...
[05:55] <bryce_> I got this bastard in the bag... Police said once we get a little more conversation, we can use her account and lure him to Grande Prairie and catch him in the act.  It's against the law for an older guy to meet a younger girl online and arrange a meetup in person... It's "with intent" they said.
[05:56] <flaccid> what law would he be breaking sorry
[05:57] <bryce_> Not sure, I've got a lot a paper work from the station today that I still have to read over so I can make sure this goes down properly without him being able to just slid away free.
[05:57] <flaccid> if thats the case you are assuming he wants to arrange a to meet in person
[05:57] <flaccid> yeah
[05:57] <flaccid> what country is this in?
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> i don't know, i hate pedophiles as much as the next guy, but this sounds kinda like entrapment to me...
[05:58] <bryce_> My daughters best friend sits in on all the conversations with thsi guy... She's been talking Nikkila out of talking with him, but she finds it "fun" and thinks he's harmless.  Kerri says the guy is always trying to talk sexually with her.
[05:58] <bryce_> Alberta, Canada.
[05:58] <Tomi-idle> hitmanWilly:  if there's a clear intention to do harm to your child i'd definately agree with entrapment :p
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> bryce_, ok, nm then, get the f@cker
[05:59] <bryce_> I just want to nail the fucker!  I remember me as a younger guy, yeh, it was neat to hit on the younger girls... but a 30 something yr old guy hitting on my 13 year old daughter, wanting to have "sex games"" with her online... That's breaking my boundries and asking for an ass kicking!
[06:00] <Tomi-idle> i wonder if you could make the police monitor his internet connection if there's other crap he's doing online.
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> bryce_, too bad you're in canada and not texas, heh...
[06:00] <flaccid> bryce_: so you are telling me they didn't actually tell you the law he would be breaking
[06:00] <bryce_> It's invasion of privacy if they don't have enough information to do it... I asked the same thing hitmanwilly.  They told me to get more of the conversations and bring them back.
[06:01] <flaccid> i dont see any invasion of privacy hnere
[06:01] <dsmith_> coming from DALnet, Yahoo and ICQ I would chat with ppl of all ages... You do get some weirdos, I would always ignore those.
[06:01] <bryce_> I cannot remember what exactly the law he would be breaking was...
[06:01] <dsmith_> meeting a minor for whatever reason is lame
[06:01] <bryce_> flaccid... that was to the comment about the police monitoring this guys connection (or something to that, from above)
[06:01] <flaccid> i woudl be confirming that law first...
[06:01] <hitmanWilly> bryce_, if they can prove intent, they got him, just like someone doesn't actually have to have sex with an undercover prostitute to get busted for it
[06:02] <flaccid> then the polic would be breaking the law
[06:02] <flaccid> in america, undercover cops do entrapment every day undercover to catch criminals. its so wrong but yeah thats america for ya
[06:02] <dsmith_> should'nt this topic be moved?
[06:03] <dsmith_> er...conversation
[06:03] <bryce_> whatever law it is, doesn't really matter... it's the fact that this guy intends to meet up with her, wants to play "sex games" online with her... and has been telling her things about if he met up with her, this is what he'd do.
[06:03] <Tomi-idle> maybe if there's an Ignore-list on msn that you could use to make him unable to respond to your daughter
[06:03] <Tomi-idle> but that's only if you don't want to catch him and just make him leave your daughter alone :/
[06:04] <flaccid> the law is the law. go #off-topic
[06:04] <bryce_> Sorry dsmith... It started out me asking how to log conversations on gaim.... now I'm venting because I don't have a wife, it's just me and my daughter, you guys other than the police, are all I've talked to about it.
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> if it was me id do a traceroute back and find out what the address on the ip is, and $DEITY help him then
[06:04] <dsmith_> bryce: block his account
[06:04] <dsmith_> and disallow your child from speaking with this person
[06:04] <bryce_> Tomi-idle, I thought about that too... but would you want to just let him stay online and talk to other girls?  You have daughters?
[06:04] <Bearcat> bryce_: you aren't just protecting your daughter. Your protecting other children too.
[06:05] <dsmith_> in protecing other kids I would agree its his call
[06:05] <ardchoille> Bearcat: I totally agree with you.
[06:05] <bryce_> I want to do that dsmith, but I also want this dirty pervert to get what he deserves!
[06:05] <Tomi-idle> bryce_: im only thinking if it could be a better choice for _you_. there's a chance you might be sued for harrasssing him
[06:05] <bryce_> Thank you bearcat!
[06:05] <yurimxpxman> `sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mem` :D
[06:05] <Tomi-idle> bryce_: but then again different country different laws :)
[06:05] <Bearcat> bryce_: no problem. I wish there were more people like you.
[06:05] <bryce_> What do you mean hitmanwilly?
[06:05] <flaccid> i'll im saying is know the law, don't make assumptions, don't break the law against him and take this to off-topic channel..
[06:06] <dsmith_> "Nudf said..
[06:06] <kilrae> it would be breaking the law to take this to the off topic channel?
[06:06] <bryce_> I'm not going to do anything but get him caught in the act... With of course the help of the police and my daughters friend, Kerri.
[06:06] <Tomi-idle> lol@kilrae
[06:06] <dsmith_> lol
[06:06] <Tomi-idle> maybe #kubuntu's topic should be renamed to "msn predators
[06:06] <Tomi-idle> j/k
[06:07] <dsmith_> Tomi-idle: now
[06:07] <dsmith_> err..no
[06:07] <flaccid> !offtopic
[06:07] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:07] <bryce_> Sorry guys... I got what I needed for help, I appreciate it... Thank you!  Sorry for rambling, venting and blabbing...
[06:07] <bryce_> How's the world of Linux?
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> bryce_, you can find out who owns a particular ip address, usually with a whois lookup, and you could find that out via incoming, outgoing connections, should be doable, or look up his msn profile
[06:07] <kilrae> it's harder to be lured when you're on linux
[06:07] <Bearcat> ok folks. I realy want to get this scanner working. I'd love some help. sane-find-scanner finds it, but nothing else does. It works on my other systems.  help..please? I've been fighting this off and on for months now.
[06:07] <arun> ?
[06:08] <Tomi-idle> kilrae: i don't think that's the case
[06:08] <bryce_> I have hitmanwilly... But I cannot proceed on my own... It has to be involved with the law, otherwise I would be the one in trouble for "harrasment" like someone had mentioned before.
[06:08] <dsmith_> doesn't linux have a hardware compatability list?
[06:08] <bryce_> I need to have "proof" said the police.
[06:08] <kilrae> luring is hardware now
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> bryce_, i was just saying that it was possible
[06:08] <bryce_> Thanks hitmanwilly :)
[06:09] <Tomi-idle> Bearcat: have you checked the sane supported scanners
[06:09] <bryce_> OK.... sorry people.... LINUX conversations only.... Bearcat has a problem... let's help him lol
[06:09] <flaccid> !scanner
[06:09] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[06:09] <flaccid>  you followed all that above, Bearcat?
[06:09] <kilrae> so get a young sounding woman to pretend to be your daughter, have him phone said woman and tape it, it's legal in canada
[06:09] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[06:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:09] <Bearcat> Tomi-idle: i know it works on my kubuntu laptop, so it must be a setting in this particular pc
[06:09] <bryce_> well there we go flaccid helped lol
[06:09] <jaxon_> what would be the equivalent in kde for this line?... (gksudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config)
[06:10] <Bearcat> flaccid: *reading*
[06:10] <bryce_> Already getting that planned out with my daugthers friend.  She's the one who told me... She's worried about all this as I am.  **shhh before people start slapping me with salmons for still talking about this*
[06:10] <kilrae> salmons? did trout go out of style?
[06:11] <Tomi-idle> Bearcat: if it's usb then you might want to check that you have usb2.0 enabled. that's all i can think of sorry
[06:11] <bryce_> I was hoping for salmon dinner tomorrow *hint hint* lol
[06:11] <kilrae> i had salmon for lunch
[06:11] <bryce_> :P I had stirfry lol
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Genetically Modified Food! egads!
[06:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:12] <Bearcat> Tomi-idle: well the printer portion/flash memory reader part works fine, so i'd imagine so
[06:12] <flaccid> lol pasted that before Bearcat first time you asked :)
[06:12] <dsmith_> lol...
[06:13] <dsmith_> its just freid chicken strips in orange syrup
[06:13] <dsmith_> but I digress
[06:13] <kilrae> is orange chicken kubuntu related?
[06:13] <bryce_> OK... I've got to get going.... THANK YOU SO MUCH for everyone's help... and allowing me to vent.  You guys have a wonderful evening!  I'm sure I'll drop by later!
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Its the next release. :)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> That would be cool way to name releases.
[06:14] <dsmith_> it is as Its setting next to my kubuntu brabded lappy :P
[06:14] <kilrae> i fully support food themed release names
[06:14] <Dr_willis> "MooGoo Gai Pan" Beta release. :)
[06:14] <modjo> (in the voice of the dr nick character) Hi everybody!
[06:14] <dsmith_> hahaha
[06:15] <modjo> has anyone here used xSMBrowser to browser windows shared folders?
[06:15] <kilrae> Kubunto 7.10 Super Spring Roll
[06:15] <dsmith_> that would be a cool name convention for some distro
[06:15] <modjo> xSMBrowser ?
[06:15] <dsmith_> Kung-fu Linux
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Releases based on Porn Actresseses.. that way the wallpaper can be a different default :)
[06:16] <modjo> !xSMBrowser
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsmbrowser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <dsmith_> heh
[06:16] <modjo> has anyone here used xSMBrowser to browser windows shared folders?
[06:16] <ws4> halo ada orang indo
[06:16] <kilrae> 8.04 Jiggly Jenna ?
[06:17] <dsmith_> haha
[06:17] <Tm_T> stop that foofoo
[06:17] <ws4> ?????
[06:17] <Tm_T> stick in support when there's questions
[06:17] <ws4> well
[06:17] <underdog5004> !offtopic
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> didn't we already go through this a few years back :P
[06:17] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:17] <flaccid> please idle unless you have a problem or helping with a problem
[06:17] <modjo> i have kubuntu questions
[06:17] <modjo> :(
[06:17] <dsmith_> ask away
[06:17] <ws4> how to go to chanel dalnet???
[06:17] <modjo> has anyone here used xSMBrowser to browser windows shared folders?
[06:17] <underdog5004> I'm here too
[06:18] <underdog5004> ws4, just type in /join #dalnet
[06:18] <modjo> i meant
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> ws4, dalnet is a network, not a channel
[06:18] <underdog5004> if they're hosted on this server
[06:18] <modjo> has anyone here used xSMBrowser to browse in windows shared folders?
[06:18] <underdog5004> modjo, it's a samba-based browser?
[06:18] <modjo> yes underdog
[06:18] <Tm_T> !repeat | modjo
[06:18] <ubotu> modjo: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:18] <modjo> im pretty sure
[06:18] <jaxon_> this line in KDE ...... "gksudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config"  .....?  thx
[06:18] <ws4> ist time using kubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:19] <ws4> confiusing
[06:19] <modjo> !patience
[06:19] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:19] <underdog5004> modjo, weird...never heard of suck a thing
[06:19] <underdog5004> modjo, you may want to use konqueror and use this syntax:
[06:19] <underdog5004> smb://username@windowsbox:/path/to/file/or/drive/
[06:20] <underdog5004> I think that'll work...I don't interact with windows too much if I can help it.
[06:20] <modjo> by username you mean my username in kubuntu or linux?
[06:20] <modjo> and what does windowsbox means?
[06:20] <underdog5004> modjo, I mean the username you'd use to log into the remote machine (the one where the files are that you're trying to access)
[06:21] <underdog5004> modjo, that means either the hostname or ip address of the remote machine
[06:21] <modjo> i dont know that username... i mean it open to anybody
[06:21] <underdog5004> modjo, try just the host name (or ip address)
[06:21] <Tm_T> IIRC smb:// let you browse if it's in home network
[06:21] <jaxon_> should i install (gk su) if i m using kubuntu?
[06:21] <ws4> all i wat to do is just go to dalnet server, and all the fill is empty
[06:21] <modjo> ok im getting somewhere
[06:22] <underdog5004> thanks, Tm_T, I'm pretty rusty with samba...just know the general protocol/syntax...lol
[06:22] <modjo> with the ip address it return me somekind of error
[06:22] <Tomi-idle> jaxon_: kdesu is for graphical root
[06:22] <underdog5004> modjo, details?
[06:22] <Tm_T> underdog5004: well, I have used it twice I think
[06:22] <modjo> "unkown host smb"
[06:22] <HanzZ> hi... i dont know why, but i can't find kcolorchooser in kubuntu
[06:22] <keesercc_> is it possible to create an un-deletable folder?
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> jaxon_, no, substitute kdesu anytime it calls for gksu
[06:22] <HanzZ> is it in kubuntu?
[06:22] <underdog5004> modjo, what'd you type in the address bar?
[06:22] <modjo> smb://linoman@192.168.1.100:/path/to/file/or/drive/
[06:22] <underdog5004> HanzZ, I don't think so
[06:23] <underdog5004> HanzZ, try sudo apt-get install kcolorchooser
[06:23] <jaxon_> cheers: Tomi-idle n hitmanWilly
[06:23] <modjo> but im nt shire if linoman is right
[06:23] <modjo> *but im not sure if linoman is right
[06:23] <HanzZ> underdog5004: :) i got it... it's in package kcoloedit
[06:23] <underdog5004> modjo, if the machine is on your local network, just walk over to it and get the username ;)
[06:24] <underdog5004> HanzZ, great
[06:24] <HanzZ> thx :)
[06:24] <modjo> ok let me see it
[06:24] <modjo> be right back
[06:25] <underdog5004> lol, ok
[06:25] <modjo> dumb me, my win desktop is also modjo
[06:25] <underdog5004> haha
[06:25] <modjo> smb://modjo@192.168.1.100:/path/to/file/or/drive/
[06:25] <modjo> is it like that?
[06:25] <underdog5004> yessir
[06:26] <modjo> same mistake
[06:26] <modjo> let me check if the ip address is ok
[06:26] <modjo> be right back
[06:26] <Tm_T> modjo: does smb:// let you browse it?
[06:26] <sparr> my tablet is supposed to have a wacom "eraser" input...  how might that work, physically?
[06:26] <Tm_T> sparr: no idea, never used tablet
[06:27] <underdog5004> sparr, you would turn your pen upside down and erase
[06:27] <underdog5004> that's how it works on windows, iirc
[06:27] <sparr> underdog5004: that doesnt seem to have any effect
[06:27] <underdog5004> sparr, I can't help you to much...sorry.
[06:27] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: you shouldn't irc as root
[06:27] <underdog5004> lol
[06:28] <underdog5004> lesson number one
[06:28] <joseph1110216> wat u mean
[06:28] <modjo> underdog: same thing
[06:28] <modjo> the ip address is correct
[06:28] <modjo> do i have to download a plugin?
[06:28] <underdog5004> modjo, have you shared the files on windows?
[06:28] <joseph1110216> my irc only seems to work when i sudo konversation
[06:28] <Tomi-idle> ouch
[06:28] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: http://www.bsd.org/faq.html#rootsucks
[06:28] <modjo> yes i do :D my music folder
[06:28] <joseph1110216> only works when i sudo konversation
[06:28] <underdog5004> modjo, lol, I'm out of ideas
[06:29] <joseph1110216> i cant get konversation to run any other way
[06:29] <Tomi-idle> joseph1110216: you gotta find some other way to make it work. big security risk using sudo for irc client
[06:29] <sparr> underdog5004: aha, youre right, but my stylus doesnt have that function.  thanks
[06:29] <joseph1110216> ok thanx
[06:29] <underdog5004> genii is a great guy to talk to, but he's almost never on
[06:29] <Tomi-idle> joseph1110216: if it doesn't work try some other irc client, i.e. x-chat
[06:29] <modjo> thats a picky konversation app
[06:29] <Tm_T> noooooo
[06:29] <Tm_T> I was about to tell him how that issue can be solved
[06:29] <Tm_T> bah
[06:29] <Tm_T> BAH!
[06:29] <Tomi-idle> i scared him away!
[06:29] <modjo> jajajajajaja
[06:29] <Tomi-idle> Tm_T: how do you solve it then?
[06:30] <modjo> tough luch
[06:30] <modjo> luck
[06:30] <modjo> i dont know what to do
[06:30] <modjo> i want to be able to hear my shared music of my winbased pc
[06:30] <Tm_T> Tomi-idle: running it from konsole -> check error -> resolve problem (remove obstacle) -> done
[06:30] <Tomi-idle> Tm_T: lol, yeah
[06:30] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Does anyone have any tips for getting an Xbox 360-style gamepad working?
[06:30] <underdog5004> modjo, try the forums
[06:31] <underdog5004> or, I know there are a bunch of tutorials online...
[06:31] <underdog5004> or just hang around here
[06:31] <modjo> underdog i tried the forums, but the seem to hel a lot connecting windows mahcines to linux
[06:31] <Tm_T> Tomi-idle: basic procedure
[06:31] <modjo> not the other way
[06:31] <underdog5004> modjo, ah
[06:31] <underdog5004> google is now your best friend
[06:31] <Tomi-idle> Tm_T: yes. thought you knew the specific problem on konversation :)
[06:32] <Tm_T> Tomi-idle: there can be dozens of "specific problem on konversation" ;)
[06:32] <modjo> google is always my first choice
[06:32] <modjo> let me ask him one more time
[06:32] <underdog5004> that's a great attitude to have towards learning about linux
[06:32] <Tomi-idle> Tm_T: true dat.;)
[06:32] <modjo> fo shizzle?
[06:33] <Kr4t05> I bought a Logitech controller, that looks like an Xbox 360-style gamepad... I already tried the xpad360 module, but it doesn't work.
[06:34] <modjo> hey underdog
[06:34] <modjo> i just realized something
[06:34] <underdog5004> what?
[06:34] <underdog5004> your windows machine is unplugged?
[06:34] <underdog5004> lol
[06:34] <modjo> the @ sign seems to change when i type it on the address bar
[06:34] <modjo> http://smb//modjo%400192.168.1.100:/path/to/file/or/drive/:
[06:34] <modjo> i wish
[06:34] <underdog5004> oooh
[06:34] <underdog5004> that's strange
[06:34] <underdog5004>  @ %
[06:34] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: running it from konsole -> check error
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, try just a generic joypad device
[06:34] <modjo> i mean, i type @ on the address bar and thats the error
[06:34] <underdog5004> the error is the % sign?
[06:34] <joseph1110216> ok thanx
[06:35] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: Doesn't work.
[06:35] <joseph1110216> i see many errors
[06:35] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: mooh, run that konversation from Konsole without sudo and see error
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, /dev/joy doesn't return anything?
[06:35] <modjo> i typed this
[06:35] <joseph1110216> how do i run without sudo konversation
[06:35] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: collect all of them and paste them to pastebin
[06:35] <modjo> http://smb//192.168.1.100:/path/to/file/or/drive/
[06:35] <joseph1110216> im new here
[06:35] <modjo> the rror tells me this
[06:35] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: it's ok
[06:35] <modjo> An error occurred while loading http://smb//192.168.1.100:/path/to/file/or/drive/:
[06:35] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: you're doing fine
[06:35] <underdog5004> modjo, lol, not http://
[06:35] <modjo> see the @ is missing?
[06:35] <joseph1110216> how do i run konversation
[06:35] <underdog5004> just smb://
[06:35] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: ls: /dev/joy: No such file or directory
[06:35] <joseph1110216> without sudo konversation
[06:35] <Tomi-idle> joseph1110216: type "konversation" on konsole
[06:36] <underdog5004> and no @ if you don't type in a username
[06:36] <joseph1110216> ill try
[06:36] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: open konsole
[06:36] <Tm_T> Tomi-idle: don't interfere me now
[06:36] <joseph1110216> is terminal same as console
[06:36] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: yes
[06:36] <Tomi-idle> Tm_T: :p yeah im off to school, bye ;P
[06:36] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: Konsole is terminal application
[06:36] <Tm_T> Tomi-idle: bye :)
[06:36] <modjo> it puts the http
[06:36] <joseph1110216> DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[06:36] <joseph1110216> DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[06:36] <joseph1110216> trying to create local folder /home/joseph/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:37] <underdog5004> ok, but you don't need to put an @ if you aren't typing in a username
[06:37] <joseph1110216> trying to create local folder /home/joseph/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:37] <joseph1110216> trying to create local folder /home/joseph/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:37] <Tm_T> NOOOOO
[06:37] <underdog5004> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <joseph1110216> trying to create local folder /home/joseph/.kde/socket-joseph-desktop: Permission denied
[06:37] <Tomi-idle> Tm_T: i'd so wanna answer that problem ;D
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, try ls /dev/input
[06:37] <joseph1110216> trying to create local folder /home/joseph/.kde/socket-joseph-desktop: Permission denied
[06:37] <underdog5004> I hate you, joseph1110216
[06:37] <joseph1110216> kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied
[06:37] <joseph1110216> Could not bind to socket '/home/joseph/.kde/socket-joseph-desktop/kdeinit__1'
[06:37] <joseph1110216> DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[06:37] <joseph1110216> DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[06:37] <joseph1110216> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[06:37] <joseph1110216> joseph@joseph-desktop:~$
[06:37] <joseph1110216> im new
[06:37] <joseph1110216> sorry
[06:37] <Tm_T> oh boy
[06:37] <Kr4t05> !paste > joseph1110216
[06:37] <underdog5004> modjo, ok, but you don't need to put an @ if you aren't typing in a username
[06:37] <modjo> yes joseph
[06:37] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:37] <modjo> i am typing the username as you told me
[06:38] <joseph1110216> ok bu can u guys tell me wat all those errors mean?
[06:38] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: also, pleas DONT run apps with sudo unless someone says so
[06:38] <joseph1110216> ok
[06:38] <modjo> is there something in the line before smb?
[06:38] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: I know very well, you used sudo, it messed your file permissions
[06:38] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: "ls /dev/input | grep js"  Returns nothing.
[06:38] <yurimxpxman> is there a way to dump individual files from wireshark?
[06:38] <underdog5004> ok, so what you're typing in should be this: smb://modjo@192.168.1.100:/path/to/file
[06:38] <modjo> yes
[06:38] <sparr> is there a [k] ubuntu packaged kernel with CONFIGURE_TIMER_STATS enabled?
[06:38] <modjo> and
[06:38] <underdog5004> how strange
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, try searching apt for joystick support
[06:39] <modjo> it changes it to
[06:39] <modjo> http://smb//modjo%40192.168.1.100:/path/to/file
[06:39] <Tm_T> sparr: ask #ubuntu-kernel ?
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, there may be a pkg you need to install
[06:39] <underdog5004> modjo, and you're using konqueror or xsmbrow* ?
[06:39] <joseph1110216> i pasted alot and no one told me wat was wrong with my konversation
[06:39] <modjo> konqueror as youy told me
[06:39] <underdog5004> modjo, I am _totally_ out of ideas now, sorry!
[06:40] <sparr> Tm_T: heh, ubuntu's many-channeled-ness is killing me with the freenode join limit
[06:40] <modjo> stupid difference of operative systems networking!
[06:40] <underdog5004> joseph1110216, you need to paste the errors to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org and then type the web address in where we can view it at our leisure
[06:40] <Tm_T> sparr: glad I don't have that problem with my 30 channels etc
[06:40] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: I'll try joystick and libjsw2, but I can't see how that would make a difference. I've used other gamepads fine.
[06:41] <joseph1110216> ok ill get that fixed some other time. i have another issu to adress
[06:41] <sparr> Tm_T: what did you have to do to get that?
[06:41] <raylu> there was a command that showed all keyboard/mouse input, but i forgot it. does anyone know what it was?
[06:41] <Tm_T> sparr: someone likes me perhaps
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, yeah, sounds like it uses some sort of weird drivers
[06:41] <sparr> :(
[06:41] <sparr> i hit the 20 limit every day
[06:41] <Tm_T> sparr: #ubuntu-ops might help ;)
[06:41] <sparr> its not an ubuntu issue
[06:41] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: Yeah, probably the Xbox 360 controller drivers, as that's what it uses in Vista.
[06:41] <Tm_T> sparr: I know
[06:42] <joseph1110216> i was supposed to create a dual boot on a laptop shared by two people....one person gets xp and the other gets ubuntu. i accidentally created ubuntu for the wrong person who now is the ubuntu admin. how do i remove that person and change to a new person
[06:42] <Kr4t05> I've tried the xpad360 module, but it's a bit funky.
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05, not really sure on that one
[06:43] <modjo> joseph: formatting the whole laptop?
[06:43] <raylu> xev!
[06:43] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: do this in konsole: "sudo chown username:username -R ~/"
[06:43] <Tm_T> modjo: wrong answer
[06:43] <joseph1110216> wat does that do
[06:43] <ertr>  is there a quick and easy way to replace words in a text file from the terminal
[06:43] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: it returns all filerights from homepath to user
[06:43] <joseph1110216> ok ill try
[06:44] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: replace username with your
[06:44] <joseph1110216> ill tell u guys wat happens
[06:44] <modjo> Tm_T: does Tm_T stands for teenage mutant _ turtle?
[06:44] <Tm_T> modjo: no
[06:44] <joseph1110216> the second username in username:username
[06:44] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: same, the second part is group but you won't want any other group
[06:45] <ertr>  is there a quick and easy way to replace words in a text file from the terminal let's say i want to change sourclist feisty into gutsy
[06:45] <modjo> is there any answer i can give is correct?
[06:45] <Kr4t05> ertr:  sed, but it's tricky.
[06:45] <Tm_T> modjo: that's offtopic
[06:45] <modjo> true
[06:46] <ertr> Kr4t05: nano doesn't do replace?
[06:46] <joseph1110216> so it would look like  "sudo chown joseph:joseph -R ~/"
[06:46] <modjo> well gotta go, keep searching for the perfect alliance between linux and windows with no mac arounds
[06:46] <Kr4t05> ertr: Nope
[06:46] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: yes
[06:46] <joseph1110216> ok ill try
[06:46] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: IF you do that sudo callas joseph
[06:46] <dustin> Hey
[06:47] <dustin> Can someone help me out? I'm having problems with my sound. I just booted up my computer and all sounds are heavily garbled/sped up. When playing audio in Amarok, no sound comes out but it plays through the songs extremely fast.
[06:48] <joseph1110216> ok im getting errors....lets say the owner/admin/watever is named bob and i want to change the owner to tim    do i type "sudo chown bob:bob -R /
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> joseph1110216, not it would be tim:tim in that case
[06:49] <joseph1110216> ok let me try
[06:49] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: well, that change file owner
[06:49] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: not system owner
[06:49] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: please don't EVER do that command for /
[06:50] <joseph1110216> ???
[06:50] <Tm_T> don't ever do anything to /
[06:50] <Tm_T> really
[06:50] <Tm_T> especially not with -R
[06:50] <Tm_T> unless you like to destroy your system
[06:51] <Bearcat> well folks i think i'm outta here. I still don't have this working, but one thing i do notice is that the pc that can
[06:51] <Bearcat> can
[06:51] <Bearcat> arrgh
[06:51] <joseph1110216> ok i installed ubuntu and when i installed it asked for an owner  (we shall call the owner bob) i want to change the owner to tim...how would i do this?
[06:51] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: I don't know exactly, have you tried to search wiki and or forums?
[06:51] <joseph1110216> that command with the -r returned "returned invalid user"
[06:51] <Bearcat> night folks
[06:52] <Bearcat> thanks for the support
[06:52] <joseph1110216> i will get confused if i search the forums best help is from u guys
[06:52] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: I usually feel the same
[06:52] <joseph1110216> so should i just reinstall ubuntu and get the name right?
[06:53] <Tm_T> joseph1110216: I'm slowly feeling you would do much better by reinstalling whole system, though then you might miss big bunch of learning
[06:53] <Tm_T> there IS way to change owners
[06:53] <joseph1110216> lol true
[06:53] <raylu> um...
[06:53] <Tm_T> but I unfortunately don't have to time to find it out, sorry
[06:53] <raylu> the owner isn't really the owner...it's just a user account
[06:53] <raylu> with some special configuration
[06:53] <Tm_T> yup
[06:54] <Tm_T> it's prolly all in sudoers
[06:54] <raylu> if it really bugs you, you can create a new user, config it the same way, and delete the old user
[06:54] <Tm_T> !sudoers
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <Tm_T> hmh
[06:54] <raylu> yeah; it's also a member of some groups
[06:54] <Tm_T> !sudo
[06:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:54] <dustin> can anyone help with my little problem? when i turn the systems sound buffer all the way down it helps a little but everything is still garbled
[06:55] <raylu> dustin, try setting all your mixer settings to the middle
[06:59] <dustin> how do you mean, exactly
[07:05] <martalli> Anyone using kde4 in gutsy?
[07:05] <dustin> i rebooted and now my sound is gone entirely
[07:05] <Tm_T> #ubuntu+1 for gutsy
[07:06] <martalli> Tm_T: Just asking conversationally =)
[07:06] <Tm_T> then #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:09] <JohnStockton> Can anyone clue me into why my screen looks like this: http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02326fc0.jpg
[07:11] <martalli> Just a stab here - but maybe your vsync/hsync is off
[07:11] <martalli> Certainly something is wrong with your video card/driver
[07:12] <JohnStockton> crap
[07:12] <martalli> What kind of card is it?
[07:12] <JohnStockton> ati radeon mobility 9000 GP
[07:12] <martalli> Are you running the ati driver or that fglrx (or whatever its called)?
[07:12] <JohnStockton> the thing is, its worked fine before.. i just changed screen resolutions, applied it and it was fine. on reboot.. i get that
[07:13] <martalli> Maybe it didn't save the settings exactly right...
[07:13] <martalli> These are the times for dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:13] <martalli> These are the times for sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:14] <JohnStockton> too bad i dont get an option with that of the "auto configure" like the guides say, haha
[07:14] <martalli> I would bet it is a sync issue (ie, the driver/xorg.conf is not properly configured for the monitor
[07:14] <martalli> What driver are you running?
[07:14] <JohnStockton> is there any way to "rollback" that from before?
[07:15] <Tm_T> JohnStockton: you mean backups?
[07:15] <JohnStockton> I suppose, given a backup was made without me telling it to before i set the new screen res
[07:16] <martalli> It probably did make a backup of the xorg.conf
[07:16] <martalli> Do you know how to go into the console with ctrl-alt-f1?
[07:16] <martalli> and back with ctrl-alt-f7
[07:16] <JohnStockton> oh ok, did not know that.
[07:17] <JohnStockton> i've just been using NX to remote into it on the lan trying to figure out how to get it back to normal
[07:17] <martalli> try going into the console (probably the screen will look better then)  cd into /etc/X11 and see how many xorg* files there are.  cp your current (just to be safe, and replace the current witht he next oldest
[07:18] <elite101> hey im starting to code and stuff for flash games was wondering is there program to do this in like CSS but without the cost
[07:18] <martalli> That's a quick and dirty idea...but running sudo spkg-reconfigure xorg-reconfigure would be a cleaner solution
[07:18] <elite101> like usuing action-script and such
[07:18] <flaccid> see #osflash
[07:18] <elite101> ahh okay
[07:18] <elite101> lol i can barely see the monitor my eyes are going blurry its like 1:18am
[07:19] <JohnStockton> there are about 5 xorg.conf's
[07:19] <flaccid> there can only be 1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf the rest are dif filenames
[07:20] <JohnStockton> well, yeah like .1 .2 and such
[07:20] <flaccid> yeah so they are old versions
[07:20] <flaccid> when you reconfigure its the old one
[07:20] <flaccid> depending on what you used to configure
[07:21] <flaccid> i gtg
[07:22] <JohnStockton> when trying spkg-reconfigure, it tells me command not found
[07:23] <martalli> woops: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <martalli> The last thing it will ask is how to configure the monitor - I would suggest you pick the advanced selection and enter the proper vertical sync and horizontal sync for your monitor (you might need to look it up on the net)
[07:25] <JohnStockton> it's on an older laptop so I hope I can get that
[07:33] <raylu> JohnStockton, kcontrol also has a tool to guess sync ranges
[07:34] <raylu> kcontrol > peripherals > monitor & display
[07:35] <raylu> > hardware > (admin mode >) configure > detect monitor
[07:36] <JohnStockton> cool, i understood that kcontrol line, but the next one i'm lost
[07:36] <JohnStockton> the hardware > (admin mode) > etc. one
[07:36] <raylu> er...
[07:36] <raylu> do you see the hardware tab?
[07:37] <cprmpt> it would seem that i can't grab root by typing "su" into a console - i can only execute single commands
[07:37] <cprmpt> is there a way around this?
[07:37] <raylu> enable the root account
[07:37] <raylu> or sudo -s
[07:37] <cprmpt> i prefer the second option :)
[07:37] <raylu> it probably won't work :P
[07:37] <cprmpt> it did
[07:37] <raylu> o.0ness
[07:37] <JohnStockton> i can only see KDE clearly when i NX to it and when I click on "Monitor & Display" it just brings me back to the welcome screen :/.
[07:38] <raylu> oh yeah...i had that issue too
[07:38] <raylu> i only discovered that option while configuring xinerama
[07:39] <raylu> and, at one point, i could only see the welcome screen for that page too =\
[07:40] <JohnStockton> so i got to it by following what I could see on my NX session then replicating it with the keyboard on my laptop but when i get to the hardware tab, I can only see the middle and the rest is garbled. lol
[07:41] <raylu> o.0
[07:41] <raylu> kcmshell Peripherals/displayconfig
[07:41] <JohnStockton> maybe i'll just reinstall the entire OS
[07:41] <raylu> wait, the issue is that your x config is totally borked?
[07:41] <JohnStockton> my screen looks like this: http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02326fc0.jpg
[07:42] <raylu> woah...that's pretty borked =\
[07:42] <JohnStockton> hah you're telling me
[07:42] <raylu> um...the top-left of your screen is fine ,right?
[07:42] <JohnStockton> not when i move things around or other things pop-up
[07:43] <raylu> o.0?
[07:43] <JohnStockton> no part of my screen is consistantly clear
[07:44] <raylu> o.0ness =\
[07:44] <raylu> model?
[07:44] <JohnStockton> and if i drag a window around, it gets very fubar'd
[07:44] <JohnStockton> this is exactly what I have: http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11867_na/11867_na.HTML
[07:45] <JohnStockton> I think to save the headache of everyone i'll just reinstall the OS
[07:45] <JohnStockton> I'm only a month into learning this thing, so I dont think i'll lose much on my system as is
[07:47] <raylu> er...
[07:48] <raylu> wait, this worked before?
[07:48] <JohnStockton> yeah
[07:48] <JohnStockton> it all crapped out when I played with my screen resolution
[07:48] <raylu> do you have any backup xorg.confs?
[07:48] <JohnStockton> it was cool after i applied it, then on reboot it's the way you see it now
[07:49] <JohnStockton> I think I might.. xorg.conf.1,  xorg.conf.2
[07:49] <raylu> take a poke inside those files; use one of them
[07:50] <raylu> and paste your current xorg.conf
[07:51] <JohnStockton> so you're saying, copy the text from one of the backups to the current conf and reboot?
[07:52] <raylu> er, i usually just rename the files with mv :D
[07:52] <raylu> but yeah, try that. and make a backup of your current config too
[07:54] <JohnStockton> alright, reboot time... i'll let u know
[07:54] <sammy> I found an old forum post explaining the best way to get debugging from an application (I can't figure out an msn protocol problem with kopete) in kubuntu would be to use apt-get and install from source. does this still hold true?
[07:55] <sammy> kopete doesn't complain while trying to connect, it just fails. tcpdump shows it just stops in the middle of authenticating for no apparent reason.
[07:57] <JohnStockton> F yes  <3
[07:59] <raylu> it works?
[08:00] <brycew> Good evening folks!
[08:00] <JohnStockton> yep!  :D
[08:00] <JohnStockton> thanks man, saved me a lot of time
[08:00] <brycew> Question:  How do I search other channels and networks?
[08:00] <raylu> brycew, huh?
[08:00] <JohnStockton> you can search for other channels by /list
[08:01] <brycew> hows that John?
[08:01] <JohnStockton> well... it'll list all the channels on the server
[08:01] <brycew> oh gotcha lol
[08:01] <raylu> yeah...i highly recommend..
[08:01] <raylu> not doing that...
[08:01] <raylu> especially on freenode. you'll be sitting here till tommorow getting listed
[08:01] <brycew> oh... then what do I do?
[08:01] <brycew> is there a way to search by interest or something?
[08:02] <JohnStockton> i think you can wildcard it like /list *nix*
[08:02] <JohnStockton> not sure if that would take equally as long
[08:03] <brycew> K... I'm going to try this on the main entrance area when I sign into this konversation thing so I don't disrupt my window here lol
[08:04] <brycew> hey, I just typed list and it brought up a new side called "Channel List" and loaded within seconds
[08:04] <raylu> ...lol, are you sure it's not still goin'?
[08:04] <brycew> It stopped as 1341 :-S
[08:05] <brycew> 1341 shown * it says
[08:05] <whatever> hello...
[08:05] <brycew> hello
[08:05] <raylu> o.0ness
[08:05] <brycew> lol
[08:05] <whatever> i can come into irc but not browse the net :(
[08:05] <whatever> whats going on
[08:05] <wastedfluid> Hi guys.  quick question.. just switched to KDE form gnome.. and i can't figure out this theme stuff.  I went to kde looks, downloaded the KDE 3.0 themes.. but kcontrol says there are none in the directory it's at.. i have .kde.ktheme files, i even extracted the directory.. the themerc files.. where am I going wrong here?
[08:06] <brycew> ok that was weird... what just happened?
[08:07] <brycew> .... and of course to bullshit :)
[08:09] <raylu> whatever, what error/browser?
[08:10] <whatever> just using Konquerer... just managed to get my Vodafone 3g card working... Won't load pages.
[08:10] <whatever> ... an error occured while loading http://... could not connect to host
[08:10] <Dannilion> are you running knetworkmanager? That sometimes messes up my DNS so I can't load pages (but can come in IRC to moan about it)
[08:11] <whatever> lol
[08:11] <whatever> bingo
[08:11] <whatever> thanks dannilion
[08:11] <whatever> bloody genius!
[08:12] <whatever> ok... Knetworkmanager starts up automatically.. how do I get rid of it?
[08:12] <whatever> I mean stop it starting on login
[08:12] <Dannilion> it should have asked you when quitting
[08:12] <Dannilion> (at least mine did)
[08:12] <Dannilion> and I'm no genius- Hobbsee told me the answer a while ago
[08:13] <whatever> :( dont think so... I will keep playing... Thts great! now my laptop will last for hours... stupid vista!
[08:13] <Dannilion> if you really want, you can sudo apt-get/aptitude remove knetworkmanager... :) It doesn't seem to kill anything other than the DNS problem
[08:15] <raylu> m...if knetworkmanager starts up with a runlevel (no idea if it does)
[08:15] <raylu> it'll be in /etc/rc#.d
[08:15] <raylu> and you can get rid of it with update-rc.d
[08:17] <hasan2> hi evreybody
[08:17] <hasan2> can anybody help me on configuring sound card on my ubuntu sys
[08:18] <raylu> !sound
[08:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:19] <hasan2> ubotu : yes Enable the sound system is checked
[08:20] <combo> what is good program for making back-up?
[08:20] <combo> !AIGLX
[08:21] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[08:21] <combo> !compiz
[08:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <raylu> combo, backup of what?
[08:28] <AmyRose> !bot | hasan2
[08:28] <ubotu> hasan2: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:28] <combo> !backup
[08:28] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:29] <AmyRose> !mp3
[08:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:30] <vbgunz> anyone familiar with virtualization? Running Kubuntu, what is the fastest virtualization I can have for a Windows OS like XP?
[08:31] <combo> !konserve
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konserve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <AmyRose> Yeah, why use Totem to play DVD's? O_o
[08:31] <AmyRose> Kaffeine is great for that
[08:32] <Ben_Cs> hello. i run ubuntu. considering kde. is kde more user friendly then gnome?
[08:32] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Yes. :P
[08:32] <combo> how to check out which version of KDE i have on my kub.7.04??
[08:33] <AmyRose> combo: Alt-F2, type "kcontrol" and hit Enter
[08:33] <AmyRose> combo: It will tell you what you're running
[08:33] <Ben_Cs> Amy_Rose: cause gnome suddenly failed completely on me. so i think of trying kde...
[08:34] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: I really recommend KDE because it is focused on giving you as many config options as possible through the dialog boxes rather than making you use a gconfeditor
[08:34] <[pyro] > Ben_Cs: i think its much better. Besides Linus uses kde ;)
[08:34] <combo> there is written that i have v3.5.7 - is this latest version?
[08:34] <Ben_Cs> as well as ubuntu channel is packed with ppl so no one gives a damn about helping
[08:34] <combo> AmyRose: thanks a lot :)
[08:34] <AmyRose> combo: You're welcome
[08:34] <AmyRose> combo: You may also find "kinfocenter" helpful
[08:35] <combo> AmyRose: oh, great!
[08:35] <AmyRose> I don't understand why people think GNOME is better. KDE is so much more fun to use, I think
[08:35] <Ben_Cs> downloading kde now. will try
[08:35] <AmyRose> combo: Yeah, kinfocenter is like the ultimate system info utility :D
[08:35] <combo> AmyRose: i've been using ubuntu since i discovered Kubuntu :D
[08:35] <combo> KDE ROX :D:D:D
[08:35] <AmyRose> combo: I started liking Ubuntu when Kubuntu Hoary came out back in 2005
[08:36] <AmyRose> and yes, I agree, KDE ROX!!!!!
[08:36] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: anyway i've been using kde apps on gnome cause they're much better then gnome apps
[08:36] <combo> AmyRose: omg... so much time u use linux?!
[08:36] <AmyRose> combo: I've been using Linux as my only OS since March 28, 2004
[08:36] <AmyRose> Every March 28, I celebrate Screw Microsoft Day
[08:36] <combo> AmyRose: and why not microshit ?
[08:37] <AmyRose> combo: Because I don't trust them.
[08:37] <Ben_Cs> or winblows day?
[08:37] <combo> AmyRose: very good answer :D:D
[08:37] <AmyRose> plus, I fail to see what's so great about an OS that crashes when you open 20 windows
[08:37] <[pyro] > heh
[08:37] <[pyro] > bbl
[08:37] <combo> AmyRose: do u use compiz or beryl on your machine ?
[08:37] <AmyRose> Some of my friends who use Windows were like "WHAT?! You can open a that many windows at once?!"
[08:38] <AmyRose> combo: I only use it when I want to show off.
[08:38] <AmyRose> combo: Since I give presentations in college, in a major that has nothing to do with computers, I enjoy plugging my Kubuntu laptop into the projector and playing with Beryl before the show
[08:38] <AmyRose> lol
[08:39] <combo> AmyRose: same me :) beryl is getting bored with time :/
[08:39] <AmyRose> combo: I would use it, except that it's BUGGY
[08:39] <AmyRose> I can't hold that against them though
[08:39] <AmyRose> It's beta software
[08:39] <AmyRose> So I prefer to use kwin for now
[08:39] <combo> at my PC it has been slowing my system at all
[08:40] <Berzerker> anyone here?
[08:40] <AmyRose> !hi
[08:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:40] <combo> so i decided do take it away
[08:40] <Berzerker> eh
[08:40] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Yes, we're here
[08:40] <Berzerker> ok
[08:40] <Berzerker> so
[08:40] <AmyRose> Berzerker: What's your question?
[08:40] <combo> hi
[08:40] <AmyRose> :3
[08:40] <Berzerker> my sound doesn't work
[08:40] <underdog5004> I'm here too
[08:40] <Berzerker> all channels are unmuted at 100
[08:40] <AmyRose> !sound | Berzerker
[08:40] <ubotu> Berzerker: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:40] <combo> 'what's your question?' -> hahah that was good :D
[08:41] <AmyRose> combo: haha
[08:41] <AmyRose> Berzerker: I hope that helps you
[08:41] <Berzerker> it doesn't
[08:41] <Berzerker> I've tried all that
[08:41] <AmyRose> You did?
[08:41] <Berzerker> yes
[08:41] <Berzerker> I've found those sites before hand
[08:41] <Berzerker> googling
[08:42] <AmyRose> Berzerker: OK, what sound chipset are you using?
[08:42] <Berzerker> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[08:43] <Berzerker> I'm using kubuntu on a new macbook pro
[08:43] <Berzerker> according to the install tutorials, sound should work out of the box.
[08:44] <AmyRose> Berzerker: You did make sure the snd_intel8x0 is loaded, right?
[08:44] <Berzerker> uh
[08:44] <underdog5004> lol
[08:44] <AmyRose> Berzerker: You need to make sure the module is loaded
[08:44] <Berzerker> lol
[08:44] <Berzerker> how do I do that
[08:44] <AmyRose> ok, lsmod | grep intel
[08:44] <Berzerker> k...
[08:44] <AmyRose> If that returns something starting with "snd", you have the module loaded
[08:45] <Berzerker> it returns 5 things
[08:45] <Berzerker> with snd
[08:45] <AmyRose> Hmm...
[08:46] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Can you please try removing all of your sound modules by doing this a couple of times? sudo rmmod $(lsmod | awk '{print $1}' | grep snd)
[08:47] <AmyRose> Oh, and quit your mixer too
[08:47] <Berzerker> how
[08:47] <underdog5004> Berzerker, she just told you how.
[08:47] <AmyRose> Right-click that speaker thingy by your clock and click Quit
[08:47] <Berzerker> oh ok
[08:47] <Berzerker> underdog5004, no she didn't
[08:47] <underdog5004> oops, sorry Berzerker
[08:47] <underdog5004> my bad
[08:47] <Berzerker> lol
[08:47] <AmyRose> I have had a lot of experience with command line magic :D
[08:47] <AmyRose> It's fun to come up with concoctions like that
[08:48] <Berzerker> 6 errors
[08:48] <Berzerker> dealing with things being in use
[08:48] <AmyRose> Berzerker: OK, let's try this
[08:48] <Berzerker> k
[08:48] <AmyRose> We're going to kill everything that is using the sound device
[08:49] <Berzerker> I might have to kill XChat
[08:49] <AmyRose> You shouldn't have to
[08:49] <Berzerker> oh
[08:49] <Berzerker> ok
[08:49] <AmyRose> I will give you a command that should do it in one fell swoop
[08:49] <Berzerker> kk
[08:49] <AmyRose> kill $(lsof /dev/snd/* | grep -v PID | awk '{print $2}')
[08:49] <Ben_Cs> wow - interesting: installing xubuntu-desktop, doesn't change boot image. installing kubuntu-dekstop, changes loading image to kubuntu. very nice :)
[08:50] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Yes, I realize I have too much time on my hands. =P
[08:50] <Berzerker> lol
[08:50] <Berzerker> k
[08:50] <Berzerker> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] 
[08:50] <AmyRose> Yeah, I learned all of this last year
[08:51] <Berzerker> that's what supposed to output?
[08:51] <AmyRose> OK, Berzerker, that means you have nothing using the sound device, so keep doing this command until you get no more errors: sudo rmmod $(lsmod | awk '{print $1}' | grep snd)
[08:51] <Berzerker> k
[08:51] <Berzerker> did it
[08:51] <AmyRose> should be about 3 times
[08:51] <AmyRose> ok
[08:51] <Berzerker> no errors the first time
[08:51] <Berzerker> lol
[08:51] <AmyRose> Good
[08:52] <AmyRose> that means everything's unloaded
[08:52] <Ben_Cs> hmmmm. love the kde eye candy :)
[08:52] <Berzerker> k
[08:52] <Berzerker> now what
[08:52] <AmyRose> Berzerker: OK, what I'm going to have you do is reload them and then pastebin the dmesg output
[08:52] <AmyRose> Berzerker: I will tell you how to do this
[08:52] <Berzerker> k
[08:53] <AmyRose> Berzerker: sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
[08:53] <Berzerker> k
[08:53] <Berzerker> done
[08:54] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Then type in "dmesg", and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:55] <dim> howdy all, what is used in Kubuntu instead of aptitude?
[08:55] <Berzerker> http://pastebin.org/976
[08:55] <AmyRose> dim:  you can use aptitude or Adept
[08:56] <AmyRose> dim: I still use Synaptic myself
[08:56] <dim> i see
[08:57] <AmyRose> dim: But the default in Kubuntu is Adept
[08:57] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Hmm, that last line is saying the interrupt for your sound device is disabled
[08:57] <AmyRose> because the PCI ID matched your sound card
[08:58] <AmyRose> I think that may be your problem
[08:58] <Berzerker> so how do I fix it?
[08:58] <AmyRose> Berzerker: It has an option to work around buggy IRQ's
[08:59] <AmyRose> Berzerker: Can you please sudo rmmod snd_intel8x0 ?
[08:59] <Berzerker> done
[08:59] <AmyRose> ok, Berzerker, let's try this: sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 buggy_irq=1
[08:59] <Berzerker> k
[09:00] <AmyRose> Now, start up kmix (Alt-F2, type "kmix"), adjust your volumes, and try again
[09:00] <AmyRose> Berzerker: If this works, we'll have to make this permanent
[09:00] <Berzerker> it says
[09:00] <Berzerker> it seems that kmix isn't running
[09:00] <Berzerker> and when I open it
[09:00] <Berzerker> nothing shows up in the window
[09:01] <AmyRose> Does typing "alsamixer" work?
[09:01] <Berzerker> no such device
[09:01] <Ben_Cs> added layout. marked shift-alt toggle. still shift alt wont change layout. only klicking will change. plaese help
[09:02] <AmyRose> Berzerker: You sure the module got loaded?
[09:02] <AmyRose> Berzerker: can you please type lsmod | grep snd_intel ?
[09:02] <Berzerker> returned 5 different things
[09:02] <Berzerker> snd_intel8x0 has 0
[09:02] <Berzerker> next to it
[09:03] <Berzerker> after 34204
[09:03] <Berzerker> don't know if that matter
[09:03] <Berzerker> s
[09:05] <greg> si, is there a command for dim the lights back     no ?
[09:05] <AmyRose> greg: Huh?
[09:06] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: how to change layout switching toggle?
[09:06] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: What layoug switching toggle?
[09:06] <AmyRose> layout*
[09:06] <greg> to make is the laptop not so bright    no ?
[09:06] <Berzerker> AmyRose: any ideas?
[09:07] <stdin> greg: do the laptop keys not work?
[09:07] <combo> AmyRose: oh, u still on-line, so maybe u can tell me how to add this toolbar for music: http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8835/screenxw6.png ? :}
[09:07] <greg> no, no keys for this,   need a command    no ?
[09:07] <combo> this is screen from Kub.LTS - i had no problem with it, but in feisty something changed :/
[09:08] <stdin> combo: it's the "Media Controller" applet
[09:08] <combo> i can't find this in applets ?
[09:08] <combo> searching but can't
[09:08] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: i added keyboard layout IL. but alt-shift wont change layout
[09:08] <combo> in LTS it was surely in right place.. but in feisty just can't find it
[09:08] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: KDE uses Ctrl-Alt-K
[09:08] <combo> in applets menu
[09:09] <stdin> combo: installed kicker-applets?
[09:09] <cp-r> after kernel upgrade no nvidia ...???
[09:09] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: You can configure keyboard shortcuts by going to the K Menu --> System Settings, then clicking on Keyboard and Mouse
[09:09] <stdin> greg: "echo 50|sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"         ?
[09:09] <combo> stdin: ok, installed :)
[09:09] <stdin> combo: check it now
[09:10] <thehcdreamer> hello, anyone know how to use ekiga? i have a lot of problem with sound
[09:10] <AmyRose> !ekiga
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <AmyRose> darn
[09:10] <combo> stdin: yes, yes! IT WORKS! :D:D thanks a lot :*:*
[09:10] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: Does your sound work in other programs?
[09:11] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, yes
[09:11] <stdin> combo: no problem :)
[09:11] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: ctr-alt-k changes to IL layout but wont change back to US layout...
[09:11] <AmyRose> combo: Good thing stdin knew because I didn't know.
[09:11] <greg> stdin: she says is no more file there
[09:11] <combo> in past i used AUTOMATIX so  maybe it was installed automaticly
[09:11] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: You may want to change the keyboard shortcuts by going into System Settings --> Keyboard and Mouse
[09:12] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, i googled a lot and i think is an ekiga problem, but i think there is a way to resolve it, for example there are a lot of sound driver in the list, such as PCMU, PCMA ecc
[09:12] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: I never got ekiga working myself, so I don't know...
[09:12] <cp-r> new kernel nvidia doesn't work anymore need some help
[09:12] <stdin> greg: have a look in the /sys/class/backlight/ directory, in one of the subdirectories there will be a file called "brightness", use that one
[09:13] <greg> stdin: she says is no director calling this name
[09:13] <stdin> greg: is there a /proc/acpi/video/ ?
[09:14] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: Since ekiga is a GNOME program, did you try #ubuntu instead?
[09:14] <greg> si.
[09:14] <stdin> greg: what's in there?
[09:15] <jaxon_> Any ways to eliminate screen adjustmenteverytime switching from kubuntu to windows n vice versa...thx
[09:15] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, yes with not success, but maybe is a problem of the router, infact the problem is only with sip protocol
[09:15] <greg> greg@laptop-7:~$ ls /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/
[09:15] <greg> brightness  EDID  info  state
[09:15] <slougi> jaxon_: screen adjustment?
[09:15] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: Yeah, Ekiga has awful NAT support
[09:15] <AmyRose> or lack thereof!
[09:15] <stdin> greg: "echo 50|sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness"         ?
[09:16] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, do you know about ALSA 1.0.9rc2? i have the rc1 and maybe it can resolve
[09:16] <AmyRose> thehcdreamer: What version of (K)ubuntu are you using?
[09:16] <jaxon_> slougi: i have to press auto adjustment each time i enter into a different OS....something i need to do before installing?
[09:16] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, feisty, and i have download this version in july
[09:16] <greg> si,  it is work,  much  thank you.
[09:17] <thehcdreamer> AmyRose, but i still have the rc1 and I don't know why
[09:17] <AmyRose> jaxon_: Are you using a CRT monitor?
[09:17] <slougi> jaxon_: do you mean the image is offset into some direction?
[09:17] <combo> if i have Direct Rendering: YES, it means that i have installed drivers already ? :)
[09:17] <AmyRose> jaxon_: Your problem seems to be caused by the video settings not being the same in both OSes
[09:18] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: i checked the menu you told me to. but still the shortcut for switching layout is: alt-ctrl-k. but it changes only forward. not back to previous layout
[09:18] <praecox> hey guys
[09:18] <combo> beside the way i've been trying to install them ? :] 
[09:18] <praecox> I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy
[09:18] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Did you try changing it?
[09:18] <AmyRose> praecox: Then try #ubuntu+1
[09:18] <praecox> AmyRose, ok, will do. thanks.
[09:18] <AmyRose> praecox: You're welcome... that's where Gutsy questions should go for now :3
[09:19] <praecox> I see, not a problem at all for me.
[09:19] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: no matter what keys i assin to the opperation. still changes layout only forward
[09:19] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Then try something that includes the spacebar or other keys that don't change between the two layouts
[09:19] <jaxon_> AmyRose: i dont use a monitor....it must be a LCD...how do i go about fixing the video settings
[09:19] <slougi> you don't use a monitor?
[09:20] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: It sounds like your problem is caused by the keys changing between the two layouts
[09:20] <jaxon_> i think it is the H-position being slightly out of position
[09:21] <slougi> jaxon_: another thing is that some drivers just differ between windows and X in how they send the signal. for example the windows nvidia driver, the linux binary, and the nv driver shipped with X will all position the picture at slightly different points (at least on crt displays)
[09:21] <AmyRose> jaxon_: I thought LCD's had an auto-fix setting
[09:21] <jaxon_> slougi: i use an a screen
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: why would key shortcuts change between layouts?
[09:21] <slougi> jaxon_: in my vocabulary that's the same thing :)
[09:22] <jaxon_> slougi: so basically cant be fix then?
[09:22] <slougi> jaxon_: i still couldn't figure out what it is that changes
[09:22] <slougi> you didn't actually say
[09:22] <thehcdreamer> Anyone know how to upgrade to ALSA 1.0.9rc2 or higher?
[09:23] <jaxon_> slougi: yes it must be an LCD if it's only a couple of inches thick
[09:23] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: got what u mean. ctrl-alt-K isn't global. when in IL layout the K keys is my lang letter instead of K. added alternative shortcut in my languge, now works fine
[09:23] <slougi> jaxon_: yes, but why do you have to run the screen redetect?
[09:23] <yeniklasorr> I see a different K menu from another linux dist. Is there any on kubuntu ?
[09:23] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: Yay!
[09:24] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: I use just the US and US International layouts, so I didn't know
[09:24] <jaxon_> slougi: i still use windows so have to switch back n forth from time to time
[09:24] <AmyRose> jaxon_: Why would anyone need Windows?
[09:24] <AmyRose> :P
[09:24] <yeniklasorr> AmyRose : for photoshop or video editing
[09:24] <Ben_Cs> AmyRose: thanks for the help
[09:25] <slougi> jaxon_: i'm almost getting the feeling that you are trolling me :-) what is it about the image output that changes between windows and linux?
[09:25] <AmyRose> Ben_Cs: You're welcome. I hope you like KDE
[09:25] <dvm> Is there any API to switch/change the SCIM language?
[09:25] <jaxon_> i m still a newbie to linux n also need to use certain programs that i havent figured out with wine
[09:25] <combo> why in amarok (under feisty) doesn't work shortcut LEFT WIN+c to pause the music like e.g. in Dapper ?
[09:26] <jaxon_> slougi: the aligment of the screen is not the same
[09:26] <yeniklasorr> combo : just middle click to on amarok icon
[09:27] <combo> yeniklasorr: THX :D
[09:27] <slougi> jaxon_: right, one thing you can do is play with modelines in xorg.conf, you can for example use powerstrip on windows to figure out the modeline and add that to the config. i haven't actually ever done this myself though :)
[09:28] <Ben_Cs> well i'm off. see u later ppl
[09:28] <combo> if i downloaded some new KDM themes, how i can install them ?
[09:28] <jaxon_> slougi: ok ...how do i get to xorg.conf on the gui
[09:28] <AmyRose> jaxon_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <AmyRose> in a terminal
[09:29] <AmyRose> it's a nice wizard that steps you through it
[09:29] <jaxon_> AmyRose: cheers
[09:29] <AmyRose> XD
[09:29] <combo> is there better to install COMPIZ via 'sudo apt-get install compiz' or with SYNAPTIC package manager ?
[09:30] <AmyRose> combo: It shouldn't matter
[09:30] <slougi> AmyRose: that doesn't work in this case
[09:30] <AmyRose> oh
[09:30] <AmyRose> sorry, slougi ^^;
[09:30] <slougi> jaxon_: it's just a flat text file that you must manually edit, you can find it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:30] <combo> AmyRose: osk
[09:30] <combo> *ok
[09:31] <AmyRose> combo: They are both frontends to the same thing, so it really shouldn't matter
[09:31] <AmyRose> ooh, 333 nicks!
[09:31] <NickPresta> heh
[09:32] <bobbi> I'm a linux noob who wants to get some info on simple network settings in kubuntu
[09:32] <AmyRose> bobbi: If you're using Kubuntu Feisty, you should be able to use Network Manager or the System Settings tool
[09:33] <phimic> hello all
[09:33] <phimic> is kxdocker broken in kubuntu 7.04?
[09:34] <bobbi> amy rose thankyou - i am unclear on what domain name means  under domain name system tab
[09:34] <combo> AmyRose: what was command to get to the kControlCenter? :D
[09:34] <bobbi> is it user defined similar to workgroup in windows?
[09:35] <NickPresta> phimic, if you have a XGL environment, try avant-window-navigator
[09:35] <NickPresta> !avant
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <bobbi> i can wait amyrose
[09:35] <zdadrdem_> phimic kxdocker works for me, but I compiled it myself
[09:35] <AmyRose> combo: kcontrol
[09:36] <AmyRose> bobbi: You shouldn't need to fill that in...
[09:36] <AmyRose> bobbi:  You can use something like "localdomain" if you need to put something there
[09:36] <combo> AmyRose: k
[09:36] <AmyRose> combo: You're welcome
[09:36] <AmyRose> :D
[09:36] <phimic> zdadrdem_: i comiled it too but it is black and has a very huge height
[09:37] <bobbi> amyrose thankyou i wasn't sure - but now i understand
[09:37] <zdadrdem_> phimic I also had this problem some months ago, but suddenly it worked
[09:38] <phimic> zdadrdem_: do you know how to fix that
[09:38] <NickPresta> I can't even get kxdocker to work from the repo.
[09:38] <zdadrdem_> phimic, no, sorry :-(
[09:38] <phimic> NickPresta: i tried kooldock but seems to be buggy
[09:38] <phimic> zdadrdem_: ok thank you
[09:39] <bobbi> amyrose: should i also leave hostname blank? [i have a small home network] 
[09:40] <phimic> NickPresta: do you use avant-window-navigator now?
[09:40] <AmyRose> bobbi: It's best to give your computers hostnames. You can pretty much name them whatever you want
[09:41] <NickPresta> phimic, I rarely use the docks anymore, since I have a much larger screen but I prefer AWN purely for it's eyecandy. It looks pretty and does the job of a basic dock.
[09:42] <mrksbrd> i need help getting my usb harddrive working under ubuntu, can anyone give me a hand mounting the device?????????
[09:42] <NickPresta> !mount
[09:42] <mrksbrd> !mount
[09:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:42] <vbgunz> anyone know how to get the old logout screen back?
[09:42] <bobbi> amyrose: I have done that. Thanks again for your time. I'm much happier about my setup now.
[09:42] <mrksbrd> no bots kicked back anything
[09:44] <noiesmo> hey all looking for a way to log bandwidth used on some pcs on network they have static IP and go thru a local proxy server
[09:45] <bobbi> noiesmo: i have been using knemo and am well pleased with it
[09:45] <NickPresta> noiesmo, Squid Proxy has a way to monitor and restrict time/bandwidth, IIRC.
[09:46] <noiesmo> bobbi, yeah but these a M$ boxes and I don't want the users to know I'm checking there total bandwidth on internet
[09:46] <bobbi> dumeter?
[09:46] <noiesmo> NickPresta, I will check it
[09:47] <mrksbrd> the drive shows up in device manager, and also when i plug it in it does recognize the drive, but when i click open in new window....it stops there....any ideas???
[09:48] <mrksbrd> i'm confused because when I put my thumb drive in it picks it up right away and allows me to access it
[09:51] <phimic> NickPresta: does the app support minimized windows as well?
[09:52] <combo> crap! i downloaded many wallpapers with 'DOWNLOAD NEW WALLPAPERS' in desktop config ... but i don't know where it was downloaded ? :| what is file:///root/.kde/ dir?
[09:53] <noiesmo> NickPresta, I thinks ipac-ng seems to be the way installed on the proxy server it can  be set to log all bandwidth from any given ip address
[09:53] <combo> but maybe those wallpapers didn't download cuz i can't find them at all ?! :] 
[09:53] <AmyRose> combo: Are you running as root?!
[09:54] <combo> AmyRose: not sure :)
[09:54] <combo> AmyRose: it was all automatic :] 
[09:54] <AmyRose> combo: Go in a terminal and type "whoami" to find out
[09:54] <mrksbrd1> sorry, my connection dropped, can anyone help me get this usb hard drive mounted???
[09:55] <combo> there is written that i'm combo ;P
[09:55] <Assid> heya
[09:55] <Assid> anyone here using a samba pdc?
[09:55] <combo> but in KDE option there is little button in left donw corner called ADMINISTRATION
[09:55] <AmyRose> combo: Then /root/.kde will not contain your settings :P
[09:56] <combo> AmyRose: so those wallpapers haven't downloaded?
[09:57] <combo> AmyRose: yes... i can see now that those wallpapers aren't downloaded on my machine CRAP! so how can i become a root ?
[09:58] <AmyRose> combo: You should not have to be root just to install wallpapers
[09:58] <combo> but after clicking they're downloading to the /root/.kde dir ? :] 
[09:59] <combo> which probably doesn't exist :/
[10:00] <mrksbrd1> combo: if your using KDE just go to settings, appearance & themes, background, u can use the GUI base app to install wallpapers
[10:02] <combo> mrksbrd1: wait a sec... Appearance... and what then ?
[10:03] <mrksbrd1> appearence & themes, then backgrounds
[10:03] <combo> i don't think i have that option (kub.feisty) :S
[10:04] <combo> OK HAVE IT!
[10:04] <combo> in DeskTop -> background
[10:04] <combo> and i'm using GUI base
[10:04] <combo> bu where is this ? :D
[10:06] <combo> no way! i installed COPMPIC (with apt-get) and can't find it anyway ?! :] 
[10:06] <mrksbrd1> if your in backgrounds, u should see "get new wallpapers"
[10:06] <combo> mrksbrd1: yes i have it buuuut
[10:06] <combo> i've been using it all the time but those wallpapers are NOT downlading into my /root/.kde dir
[10:07] <mrksbrd1> hold on
[10:07] <combo> i don't know why... probably cuz such dir doesn;t exist? :s
[10:07] <combo> mrksbrd1: ok
[10:09] <mrksbrd1> should default to this directory.........../home/username/.kde/share/wallpapers/
[10:12] <combo> i give up... don;t how to do this... there is always /root/ dir ? :/
[10:12] <mrksbrd1> find it?
[10:12] <combo> can't find it
[10:12] <combo> *i mean can't figured it out
[10:12] <mrksbrd1> u shouldn't be in root directory @ all
[10:12] <mrksbrd1> is it defaulting to root when u sign in??
[10:12] <combo> no, no... when i'm clicking on WALLPAPER - install... it automaticlly install to the /root/.kde
[10:13] <combo> wait!?
[10:13] <combo> u gave me new idea
[10:13] <combo> ^^
[10:13] <combo> brb
[10:17] <combo> mrksbrd1: i check this out and it looks it's downloaded :D
[10:17] <combo> but when i'm choosing it there is violet screen
[10:17] <combo> no w-paper :/
[10:18] <mrksbrd> hmmmmm
[10:18] <mrksbrd> sounds like your getting a conflict w/something else installed
[10:18] <combo> where this paper is downloaded?
[10:18] <combo> know that?
[10:19] <mrksbrd> u running your correct driver for your video card?
[10:19] <combo> yeap - i'm going on AIGLX (ati radeon 9600)
[10:19] <combo> but all the rest (deafults) wallpapers work as well :] 
[10:19] <combo> and all papers added by me manually
[10:19] <combo> also work
[10:20] <mrksbrd> hmmm...let me check something...brb
[10:21] <combo> craaaaaaaaaaaaap
[10:21] <combo> mrksbrd: done
[10:21] <combo> mrksbrd: i made it :) this wallpaper has been downloaded as a website so it is not a image
[10:23] <combo> mrksbrd: i'll add it manually :)
[10:23] <combo> the simple way - more stable :)
[10:23] <combo> hehe
[10:24] <mrksbrd> your not using enlighenment r u?
[10:24] <frenchy> hllo room
[10:26] <mrksbrd> combo:what base system are u working with???
[10:27] <combo> eee base = ?
[10:27] <combo> what u mean
[10:27] <combo> kubuntu 7.04
[10:27] <combo> ?! :] 
[10:28] <mrksbrd> ok...i have ubuntu w/KDE desktop environment running over top of it, my menu's prolly look a bit different
[10:28] <maverick> banshe is better than amarok
[10:29] <mrksbrd> tried searching ubuntu forums but couldn't find anything for your prob.....only thing close was if u were running enlightenment
[10:29] <combo> ok, i'll make it somehow :)
[10:30] <combo> mrksbrd: btw. do u use compiz ? :] 
[10:30] <mrksbrd> beryl
[10:30] <mrksbrd> pretty much the same thing though
[10:30] <combo> cuz there is written that i don't have metacafe... and can't install it ?
[10:30] <combo> mrksbrd: but not stable, right ?
[10:31] <mrksbrd> seems to be, one or the other just aquired the other
[10:31] <mrksbrd> haven't had any issues with it yet, seems to be more customizable
[10:31] <combo> crap... i downloaded GNOME compiz? is this good ? :D
[10:32] <mrksbrd> prolly won't run, kubuntu isn't a GNOME environment
[10:32] <combo> i mean will gnome compiz be working on KUBUNTU :D
[10:32] <combo> craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
[10:32] <combo> so uninstall
[10:33] <combo> i'll try beryl
[10:33] <mrksbrd> just run sudo apt-get remove
[10:33] <mrksbrd> for beryl...just run a sudo apt-get install beryl
[10:33] <mrksbrd> and sudo apt-get install beryl-manager
[10:33] <combo> mrksbrd: do u use BERYL on kubuntu ?
[10:33] <combo> mrksbrd: ok, i'll try that
[10:34] <mrksbrd> use it on KDE, which kubuntu is based on
[10:34] <combo> hey! cuz i've been trying to install compiz via Synaptic GNOME package manager
[10:34] <combo> so maybe because of this it didn't wokr :D
[10:34] <mrksbrd> i don't like getting anything thru synaptic
[10:35] <combo> i've been this way installing drivers to ATI :D
[10:35] <combo> but it LOOKS it works :D
[10:35] <combo> mrksbrd: i have Direct Rendering : YES
[10:35] <combo> so hope it works as it is written :d
[10:35] <combo> hhe
[10:36] <combo> YEAH!! i have beryl and beryl-manager!
[10:36] <combo> mrksbrd: thanks a lot !! :D:D
[10:36] <mrksbrd> no prob
[10:36] <combo> but one more thing - how to turn it on ? :D
[10:36] <combo> for all the time
[10:37] <mrksbrd> only thing I haven't figured out how to make it run automatically on sys startup yet
[10:37] <mrksbrd> have to manually launch it when i sign in
[10:37] <combo> i see... :)
[10:37] <combo> ok
[10:37] <mrksbrd> should be under your system menu
[10:37] <combo> but - is emerald theme working if beryl and beryl-manager is turned off ?
[10:38] <mrksbrd> themes should still work
[10:38] <combo> ok then THX once again :)
[10:38] <mrksbrd> beryl is just for effects
[10:38] <combo> going for breakfast! :D
[10:38] <mrksbrd> k
[10:38] <combo> c ya
[10:39] <mrksbrd> l8tr
[10:40] <thill2708> is there an easy way to make an ad hoc network in kubuntu?
[10:40] <thill2708> firestarter isn't doing the trick for me
[10:40] <thill2708> !adhoc
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adhoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <mrksbrd> i seen it somewhere...give me a min to think
[10:43] <dromer> aarg, my pc just hang (again. this happens almost every day), what can I check to see what happens and to fix it?
[10:44] <mrksbrd> thill: can't remember where I saw it
[10:44] <mrksbrd> sorry
[10:44] <thill2708> mrksbrd: damn :(
[10:45] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to choose a specific network when it has the same name as a couple others in knetworkmanager?
[10:47] <mrksbrd> > thill: try here..........
[10:47] <mrksbrd> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[10:47] <mrksbrd> >
[10:47] <LoneShadow> anyone using elisa ?
[10:48] <mrksbrd> nope
[10:48] <LoneShadow> oh never mind, found #elisa :D
[10:48] <hangthedj> LoneShadow: i did for a second, but it crashed to much. so i went to mythtv
[10:50] <LoneShadow> hangthedj: dosnt even play any medias for me
[10:50] <hangthedj> LoneShadow, MythTV or elisa?
[10:50] <LoneShadow> elisa
[10:51] <LoneShadow> I dont think I have seen mythtv crash :D
[10:51] <hangthedj> i don't have a tuner card, i just use it for video organization.
[10:51] <hangthedj> elisa crashed every time i played a video then one after that.
[10:51] <LoneShadow> I have a tuner, I stopped using it once I got a hdtv
[10:51] <hangthedj> so every two videos it would crash.
[10:51] <LoneShadow> mainly use the mythtv for video files like you
[10:51] <LoneShadow> was trying to see if elisa would be better
[10:52] <hangthedj> in my opinion, i don't think it is.
[10:52] <hangthedj> i wish there was something out there that would just organize videos. like amarok, but for videos.
[10:53] <mrksbrd> thill:did u check that link, was it what u were looking for??
[10:54] <hangthedj> whats the best NES emulator for linux?
[10:55] <LoneShadow> hangthedj: yea I am looking for one as well, something like amarok for videos :D
[10:55] <ubuntu> hello world!
[10:56] <hangthedj> are you programming for the first time?
[10:56] <ubuntu> i just boot from kubuntu
[10:56] <ubuntu> is great
[10:56] <mrksbrd> can anyone point me in the right direction..........attempting to use my 40gb usb hard drive, it recognizes it, but when i select "open in new window" nothing happens...........any idears???????
[10:57] <ubuntu> do you see it in the desktop?
[10:57] <mrksbrd> nope
[10:57] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: you may have to manually mount it.
[10:57] <temuchin> have the same problem
[10:57] <mrksbrd> the weird thing is my thumb drive works perfectly
[10:57] <temuchin> check the settings
[10:58] <temuchin> is there anything written at all?
[10:58] <mrksbrd> hang:haven't learned tha command yet...still a bit green
[10:58] <temuchin> :) np
[10:59] <stephen> webcam is not recognized
[10:59] <mrksbrd> also why would my thumb drive work & not the HDD???
[10:59] <stephen> and my tv tuner... i can't use it
[10:59] <temuchin> anybody know what to fill in into mount point and mount options
[10:59] <combo> mrksbrd: r u still there ? :)
[10:59] <thill2708> anyone recognize this when they try to create an ad hoc network?
[10:59] <thill2708> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[10:59] <thill2708>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Invalid argument.
[10:59] <combo> mrksbrd: cuz i have little problem
[10:59] <mrksbrd> yes combo
[10:59] <combo> Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[10:59] <combo> No composite extension
[11:00] <combo> this warning i'm receiving
[11:00] <combo> that there is no composite extension
[11:00] <combo> what it means ?
[11:00] <combo> know meybe ?
[11:00] <mrksbrd> never seen that b4 combo..........what was the situation when it occ'd?????
[11:00] <hangthedj> combo: in a terminal try doing 'sudo apt-get install libxcomposite1'
[11:01] <combo> when i'm typing BERYL in console
[11:01] <combo> hangthedj: ok try it
[11:01] <hangthedj> although the proper place to be is #ubuntu-effects.
[11:01] <hangthedj> ;)
[11:01] <combo> crap in my kubuntu i have so many gnome libs :{{{{
[11:02] <combo> autoremove should helps
[11:02] <combo> why i've been trying to install that stupid compiz under GNOME!?
[11:02] <dromer> haha
[11:02] <mrksbrd> hang: would it matter that my drive was running under windows prior to switching to linux???
[11:02] <hangthedj> combo: only if you don't need them it will autoremove, otherwise it will hold onto it.
[11:03] <combo> yes - it has been auto-deleted cuz unneeded anymore
[11:03] <hangthedj> mrksbrd, it shouldn't, if it was formated under fat or ntfs it should show up as such under linux.
[11:03] <combo> hangthedj: i made that command but still same :/
[11:03] <combo> checking for XCompisoite extension: failed
[11:03] <hangthedj> did it install the libxcomposite1?
[11:03] <combo> no composite extension... are there any more extension
[11:03] <combo> ?
[11:03] <mrksbrd> i see the device in device manager........everything looks normal as far as the structure
[11:04] <helloyo> is there a way to stop WMV from distorting? i have xine-extracodecs installed
[11:04] <mrksbrd> even tryed mount auto........and still didn't work....
[11:04] <combo> hangthedj: there is written that libxcomposite1 is already installed
[11:04] <combo> ...in latest version
[11:04] <hangthedj> if you open konsole and type fdisk -l do any of them say ntfs fat32?
[11:05] <slougi> combo: but you still need to enable the composite extension
[11:05] <combo> nothing happened
[11:05] <combo> slougi: any idea how to solve it ? i'm noob ;P
[11:05] <mrksbrd> combo it should have installed everything when u did sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-manager......don't know why u are getting that msg
[11:05] <slougi> combo: sec
[11:05] <hangthedj> combo: i'm not sure, i don't know much about it. you could try #beryl or #ubuntu-effects.
[11:05] <combo> maybe i'll try again install those to beryl and b-mnager ?
[11:06] <slougi> combo: add this to the end of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:06] <slougi> Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable"
[11:06] <slougi> EndSection
[11:06] <slougi> whoops
[11:06] <slougi> came out wrong
[11:06] <combo> yeah! totally forgot!
[11:06] <mrksbrd> see if their website has any FAQ's on it combo
[11:06] <slougi> combo: Option "Composite" "Enable" should be on its own line
[11:07] <combo> now there is composite: "0"
[11:07] <combo> so probably that it didn't work
[11:07] <combo> chage for enabled ?
[11:07] <mrksbrd> ok stupid ? how do u highlight in red who u want to talk to in here?????????
[11:07] <combo> ENABLE?
[11:07] <combo> yeesm, sorry ;P
[11:07] <hangthedj> combo: after you have to restart the x server
[11:07] <slougi> combo: i don't follow
[11:08] <combo> ok, reset x-server
[11:09] <mrksbrd> slougi: are u any good w/getting usb HDD's to work??????????
[11:10] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: open the system settings, go to the advanced tab and click on disk & filesystems.
[11:10] <hangthedj> and if that doesn't work i'll tell you how to manually do it through konsole
[11:11] <mrksbrd> don't have that option....running KDE
[11:12] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: click on the kde menu, and choose system settings
[11:12] <hangthedj> i'm staring at the command on my laptop right now.
[11:13] <mrksbrd> I have 2 system sections and neither 1 have it
[11:14] <mrksbrd> only thing close is "disk usage"
[11:15] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: 1 sec
[11:16] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: whats the output of fdisk -l, which drive is the 40g?
[11:16] <hangthedj> in konsole
[11:17] <mrksbrd> pls forgive me....do i type fdisk -l in terminal
[11:17] <hangthedj> yes
[11:18] <mrksbrd> I can paste it using the paste link here right w/o floodling the channel correct??
[11:18] <hangthedj> just tell me the /dev/ of the 40gb one.
[11:18] <t4m1n0> I'm having some problems during the installation of feisty 7.04: Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0  I get this erroc constantly. I read on a lunhpad about this bug and some guys say that I have to disable floppy in bios if I don't have floppy in a machine. But what if  I don't have an option to disalbe floppy in a bios ??? please help
[11:18] <hangthedj> usually /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2
[11:19] <hangthedj> or hdb
[11:19] <mrksbrd> says......./dev/sdb1   *           1        4864    39070048+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:19] <hangthedj> o
[11:19] <hangthedj> k
[11:21] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: ok, if you run these commands, you should be set http://paste.ubuntu.com/17
[11:22] <hangthedj> the ntfs-3g is so you can write to it.  but i would suggest backing it up, then reformatting under ext3 and copying the files back.
[11:22] <mrksbrd> ahhhhhhhh......30gb worth of digital pics
[11:23] <mrksbrd> guess i have to boot to winblows again
[11:23] <mrksbrd> ok i appreciate all your help with this........ hang
[11:23] <hangthedj> mrksbrd if you don't need to write to it.  you can leave out the -t ntfs-3g
[11:24] <combo> ok i'm going far. i changed AIGLX "on", Composite "Enable", and added Load "dbe" in MODULE section; now there is an error with beryl-manager-> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:24] <mrksbrd> i will need to, that is where i store all my digital photos
[11:24] <hangthedj> combo: add Load "dri" in the module section
[11:25] <mrksbrd> combo............u may have deeper issues w/your kubuntu install.....ran into all kinds of errors b4 and had to reinstall 3-4 times b4 it was right
[11:25] <combo> it's already added ?
[11:26] <hangthedj> hmm, is xfree86-dri installed?
[11:26] <combo> those three most important: DRI, GLX and DBE are already added
[11:26] <combo> there is written not
[11:26] <mrksbrd> since i started w/ubuntu & installed the KDE environment haven't had any issues
[11:26] <combo> that it is miising
[11:27] <combo> hangthedj: wanna see my xorg.conf maybe there some detail wrong ? :] 
[11:27] <combo> crap
[11:27] <jaguilera> hi all
[11:28] <hangthedj> combo: sure paste it, i'll compare it to mine ;)
[11:28] <hangthedj> !paste
[11:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:28] <combo> typing 'beryl' shows: that XFree86-DRI missing and also -> glXBindTexImageEXT is missing
[11:28] <combo> hangthedj: ok
[11:28] <jaguilera> 7.04 supports installing on LVM? I guess it does, but does it support creating the volumes from the install?
[11:29] <mrksbrd> hang....could it be issues with his install of kubuntu as i sugested???
[11:30] <combo> hangthedj: where should i paste it?
[11:30] <combo> hangthedj: know some service?
[11:30] <hangthedj> !paste | combo
[11:30] <ubotu> combo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:30] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: i guess the big question is what video card does he have ;)
[11:31] <combo> - here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34765/
[11:31] <mrksbrd> radeon 9600 he said....which shouldn't have any troules
[11:32] <hangthedj> hmm ati radeon, i thought all ati was difficult.
[11:32] <combo> before i had no problem with beryl on ubuntu as i remember
[11:33] <mrksbrd> i'm only speaking by past expierence w/live installs of kubuntu, like i said ever since i used alt cd for ubuntu & installed KDE environment....no issues...(knock on wood)
[11:33] <kewlsolutions> iloveyou chinita
[11:33] <combo> look, maybe this problem is caused, cuz i installed ATI drivers with command "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" ? :] 
[11:34] <combo> but Direct Renderind: YES, so i'm not sure
[11:34] <ubuntu> hello. this user is spiroo but from school with LiveCD :D
[11:34] <hangthedj> hmm, try installing xserver-xorg-driver-radeon
[11:34] <mrksbrd> shouldn't matter combo....your just using proprietary software
[11:34] <combo> mrksbrd: ok
[11:34] <hangthedj> your xorg looks fine
[11:35] <ubuntu> When installing kubuntu I wondering why tha heck it si downloading a languagepackage. I wonder, does it do that from the internet
[11:36] <hangthedj> or xserver-xorg-video-ati instead of fglrx
[11:37] <combo> ok then - i'll do it this way
[11:37] <combo> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[11:37] <combo> no choice
[11:37] <combo> how do u think - will be working?
[11:37] <combo> ( on kubuntu ? )
[11:37] <mrksbrd> let me give u some links as well about ati........brb
[11:38] <hangthedj> i love my beryl on kubuntu.  compiz and compiz-fusion only give me trouble.
[11:38] <hangthedj> i have to admit though, mostly i use beryl for emerald.
[11:39] <hangthedj> ubuntu: i'm not sure actually, never thought about it.
[11:39] <hangthedj> been awhile since i installed kubuntu
[11:39] <mrksbrd> I run strickly beryl w/o any issues under ubuntu/KDE
[11:40] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: did you decide not to mount the usb and leave it to windows?
[11:40] <enoj_> I'm using the 'nvidia-settings' app from nvidia to configure my twinview setup. It works perfectly, except for the fact that the menus and application toolbar is on the right monitor instead of the left one. How can I fix this?
[11:41] <mrksbrd> going to do it when I go home so I can back up the files
[11:41] <hangthedj> enoj_ the only way i know how to do that is through the monitor config.
[11:42] <enoj_> hangthedj: the "Monitor" section of xorg.conf you mean ?
[11:42] <mrksbrd> i'm leaving work in 1 1/2hrs....will have more time @ home to do it
[11:42] <hangthedj> in the kde system settings.
[11:42] <mrksbrd> I will let u know if it works hang....thanks alot for all your help on it
[11:42] <hangthedj> i'll still be on here, when you try it, but asleep. ;)
[11:43] <mrksbrd> mee tooooo, prolly try it in the afternoon when I wake up
[11:43] <mrksbrd> lo
[11:43] <hangthedj> its almost 3 here.
[11:43] <mrksbrd> lol
[11:43] <mrksbrd> 5:43 here EST
[11:43] <hangthedj> you work graveyard or something?
[11:44] <mrksbrd> shift work
[11:44] <hangthedj> thats what time i get to work
[11:44] <mrksbrd> 2 12hr days....2 12 hr nights
[11:44] <hangthedj> but not tomorrow.
[11:44] <mrksbrd> lol....ya know
[11:45] <mrksbrd> this is the only thing that keeps me awake....learning this OS
[11:45] <mrksbrd> my eyes & brain are shot by the end of the night
[11:45] <hangthedj> between windows and linux, its the difference between driving an automatic and a manual.
[11:45] <enoj_> hangthedj: in the monitor and display section in kde system settings? I can't see where i should do that, cause it only displays a huge screen size (the two monitors combined)
[11:46] <mrksbrd> but ya know once u get used to the commands this is easier than winblows I think
[11:46] <mrksbrd> not to mention more cusatomiable
[11:46] <mrksbrd> customizable
[11:46] <hangthedj> enoj_: in the size, Orientation and Positoning, Administrator mode, it should have a second screen option.
[11:47] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: its the difference between steering and driving.
[11:47] <mrksbrd> i saved your instr as a text file...don't worry i won't loose it...(knocks on wood)
[11:47] <hangthedj> much more control over your computer, you have to know your computer
[11:48] <mrksbrd> I've been with windows for many years now, was turned onto this by someone in my IT dept...and never looked back since
[11:48] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: most of the time just using mount (device) (directory) works, it will autodetect the fs, but with ntfs if you want to write to it, you have to specify ntfs-3g and have it installed.
[11:48] <enoj_> hangthedj: http://enoj.com/snapshot1.png
[11:48] <hangthedj> i enjoy learning something new everyday... with windows its just point click, point click.
[11:49] <mrksbrd> i agree, nothing left to the imagination with windoweas
[11:49] <mrksbrd> windows
[11:49] <Carnage\> Any idea about the reason for KDE not showing my background picture anymore?
[11:49] <mrksbrd> lol.........see i'm fading fast!!!
[11:49] <Carnage\> I just get a blue background...
[11:50] <mrksbrd> my first task with this was getting my aircard to work
[11:50] <hangthedj> enoj_: what are you trying to do, with the monitors?
[11:50] <mrksbrd> read...read...read...and still nothing, then found a nice little app called KPPP and the rest was history
[11:51] <hangthedj> i don't read anything, i just poke at it until it gives up and works.
[11:51] <enoj_> hangthedj: I want the menus and toolbars to be on the left monitor instead of the right one. When I hit "Identify monitors", it says the one on the right is #1 and the one on the left is #2 .. i want it the other way around
[11:51] <mrksbrd> hand how do u do that "red" highlight when speaking to me???........dumb ? i know!!!
[11:52] <mrksbrd> hang...sorry...lol
[11:52] <hangthedj> ok, if you choose second screen, then do dual screen, you usually have quite a bit of options, sometimes not.
[11:52] <cy__> hello, i installed ubuntu feisty yesterday.. now i want the terminus bitmap font within konsole (kde terminal) .. but i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1864eb81  .. anyone know how to solve this?
[11:52] <hangthedj> mrksbrd: you can either type the username with a : after it or a comma.
[11:53] <hangthedj> i think a comma, i dunno i'm using BitchX on my server, and it works like the :
[11:53] <mrksbrd> I do but on my end it still looks black....do u see different??
[11:53] <mrksbrd> hangthedj, test
[11:53] <hangthedj> there is is.. your name is yellow now.
[11:53] <hangthedj> ;)
[11:54] <hangthedj> 2720x1024, i want that monitor. :D
[11:54] <mrksbrd> still blk on my end.....i'll take your word for it
[11:54] <hangthedj> what client are you using?
[11:54] <mrksbrd> holy crap....wide screen???
[11:54] <hangthedj> you can probably configure it.
[11:54] <mrksbrd> 22"
[11:55] <mrksbrd> >mrksbrd is tired of configuring tonight
[11:55] <mrksbrd> there we go
[11:55] <mrksbrd> have to remember my IRC commands now
[11:57] <mrksbrd> hangthedj, past this let me see what it looks like on your end
[11:57] <hangthedj> on my end?
[11:58] <mrksbrd> to show me the color u see
[11:58] <hangthedj> i've got no gui, hence no screenshot
[11:58] <mrksbrd> when i type specifically 2 u
[11:58] <mrksbrd> ah
[11:58] <mrksbrd> k
[11:58] <hangthedj> your name is yellow.
[11:58] <hangthedj> instead of grey
[11:59] <mrksbrd> mrksbrd: you can either type the username with a : after it or a comma.
[11:59] <hangthedj> you could install bitchx-gtk and see
[11:59] <mrksbrd> was that in red on your end?
[11:59] <hangthedj> nope
[11:59] <hangthedj> or even better bitchx
[11:59] <mrksbrd> ....sudo apt-get install bitchx-gtk????????
[12:00] <hangthedj> i get it, esteve, like homestarrunner, ehh steve
[12:00] <hangthedj> yes
[12:00] <mrksbrd> k
[12:01] <mrksbrd> hangthedj,have u ever used a aircard on here
[12:01] <hangthedj> no i haven't.
[12:01] <mrksbrd> so nice to have freedom!!!!
[12:02] <mrksbrd> gets dangerous when your driving though....lol
[12:02] <hangthedj> ehh steve
[12:02] <hangthedj> i know this is offtopic, sorry, but creature from the black lagoon is a great movie
[12:02] <mrksbrd> where u from hang??
[12:02] <hangthedj> cali
[12:03] <mrksbrd> nj here
[12:03] <hangthedj> do /whois hangthedj
[12:03] <mrksbrd> WHOIS Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[12:03] <mrksbrd> imagine that
[12:03] <hangthedj> thats because right when i said that, everyone did /whois hangthedj :D
[12:04] <mrksbrd> lol
[12:04] <hangthedj> j/k or maybe not, i think its irc human nature
[12:05] <hangthedj> chatzilla? i didn't think anybody did that
[12:05] <hangthedj> i mean used that
[12:06] <mrksbrd> college???
[12:06] <hangthedj> i don't go there, i'm not smart enough, i just work there.
[12:06] <hangthedj> ;)
[12:06] <mrksbrd> lol
[12:07] <mrksbrd> t3?
[12:07] <mrksbrd> or dsl
[12:07] <hangthedj> i'm at home right now, so its just 6 meg dsl, but at work, its a 10gig line in my office.  i download distros there to test later.
[12:08] <mrksbrd> don't blame ya!!!
[12:08] <mrksbrd> home i'm on fios...20mb/down
[12:08] <hangthedj> i had to get dreamweaver for mac, 500 megs, in like 2 minutes
[12:08] <hangthedj> from adobe.
[12:08] <hangthedj> its awesome
[12:08] <mrksbrd> u paid for it?????????
[12:08] <hangthedj> no
[12:09] <mrksbrd> oh ok
[12:09] <hangthedj> with mac you can just uninstall and reinstall
[12:09] <mrksbrd> ahhh!!
[12:09] <mrksbrd> how can i send u a prvt msg?
[12:09] <hangthedj> but, now i just use textwrangler
[12:09] <hangthedj> you do /msg i think
[12:10] <hangthedj> like /msg hangthedj
[12:10] <hayami> nice xD
[12:11] <hangthedj> xD?
[12:11] <mrksbrd> did it post to the room???
[12:11] <mrksbrd> hope not
[12:11] <adenicio> can i install blue solei on linux?if yes how?
[12:12] <mrksbrd> did ya get it?
[12:14] <mrksbrd> hangthedj, u still there???
[12:15] <hangthedj> yep
[12:15] <mrksbrd> did u get it
[12:15] <hangthedj> it just locked my firefox and konqueror up
[12:15] <hangthedj> what platform are you on right now?
[12:15] <mrksbrd> linux
[12:16] <hangthedj> somethings wrong with my laptop
[12:16] <mrksbrd> rutrow!!
[12:16] <mrksbrd> i know it should work under firefox, been on their website already
[12:17] <mrksbrd> what os u on?
[12:17] <hangthedj> linux, but its unstable cause i play around too much
[12:17] <hangthedj> :p
[12:17] <mrksbrd> lol
[12:17] <mrksbrd> try konquer
[12:18] <adenicio> runlevelten: do u know about bluesoleil?if yes can i install it?if yes how?
[12:19] <mrksbrd> anyway well worth the monthy fee.....they have EVERYTHING....microsoft/mac anyway
[12:19] <runlevelten> iirc bluesoleil is a drop-in bluetooth stack type deely for legacy os's
[12:20] <runlevelten> gimme a chance. Getting caffeinated.
[12:21] <adenicio> :-/ i g
[12:21] <mrksbrd> well i'm out....time to go home now......thanks again hang
[12:21] <hangthedj> np, checkout usenetflash.com my friend runs it.
[12:21] <adenicio> ot no time while u just reach im going to work :-(
[12:21] <hangthedj> i'm going to sleep too.
[12:21] <hangthedj> 'night everyone
[12:21] <mrksbrd> will do
[12:21] <mrksbrd> !!!!!!!
[12:23] <runlevelten> usenetflash.com? Another thin front end on usenet?
[12:25] <hangthedj> runlevelten: it is a service that will let you know when search items have been found.
[12:25] <hangthedj> i don't use usenet, but gotta plug it, cause its my friends thing.
[12:25] <hangthedj> its pretty nice though.
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[12:44] <combo> is this possible to set that beryl-manager will be starting-up itself without opening it ?
[12:44] <combo> ** automaticly
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> My DVD burner is shown as /media/floppy0 and device /dev/fd0 in the "Harddrives & Filesystems" in System settings, yet the entry in the fstab is correct. Is that a bug or something?
[12:52] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: IIRC, it should be opened automatically in a new session if you don't close it before shutting down KDE
[12:52] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Otherwise you could create an enty in KDE's autostart folder
[12:53] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: ok, thx... it works automaticly with new session :D
[12:53] <knowledge25> what is the best tv software for kubuntu,can somebody help me?
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> knowledge25: Depends on your needs and on which applications your TV chipset supports
[12:57] <knowledge25> i have the  hauppauge  tv card
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> knowledge25: There are many of them, the manufacturer is not the chipset
[01:01] <MilhousePunkRock> !mythtv | knowledge25
[01:01] <ubotu> knowledge25: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[01:05] <cy__> hello, i installed ubuntu feisty yesterday.. now i want the terminus bitmap font within konsole (kde terminal) .. but i get this error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1864eb81  .. anyone know how to solve this?
[01:11] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: How did you install the font?
[01:11] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, first.. using apt-get then over the konsole -> fonts -> install bitmap
[01:12] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Let me try it myself here, hang on
[01:12] <cy__> but it cant install them into fonts:/Personal/ and i dont see where that path would lead to
[01:12] <cy__> im no kde expert.. ;)
[01:13] <knowledge25> i need help with my sudo i keep getting & error message.The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:13] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Which package did you install? console-terminus? xfonts-terminus?
[01:14] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, both.. since im desperate
[01:14] <cy__> and i re-started X ..
[01:16] <cy__> uh.. i just saw something.. when i start konsole within an aterm, i get following errors during the installation of the bitmap fonts: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m1883a029
[01:18] <malqos> hi i have dell latitude d600 and i have problem with my wifi,  i  dont know why  but it  doesnt  work:( i have no idea why:(
[01:19] <cy__> malcolmb, do you get something using "iwconfig" ?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Ok, fonts:/ is a kio-slave (virtual filesystem)
[01:20] <cy__> ok
[01:20] <cy__> so is something not running?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Maybe you are missing the slave? Type fonts:/ in a Konqueror window
[01:20] <malqos> cy__:
[01:21] <malqos> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[01:21] <malqos> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[01:21] <malqos>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[01:21] <malqos>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:21] <malqos>           Link Quality=0/100  Signal level=-256 dBm  Noise level=-256 dBm
[01:21] <malqos>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:21] <malqos>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:21] <malqos> irda0     no wireless extensions.
[01:21] <malqos> i have something like this
[01:21] <cy__> malcolmb, use the pastebin the next time.. but it looks fine
[01:21] <MilhousePunkRock> !paste | malqos
[01:21] <ubotu> malqos: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:22] <malqos> ok sorry for that
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: The card looks like it's ready, it's not connected though. Can you give a little detail about the network you are trying to connect to? (DHCP/static IPs, encryption, ESSID hidden, ...)
[01:23] <malqos> cy__:but  what i can do?
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Does it bring up a Personal and a System folder?
[01:23] <malqos> i dont configure anything
[01:23] <cy__> malcolmb, use it ? ;)
[01:24] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, yes.. when i apt-get konqueror it installed "kdebase-kio-plugins" maybe i was missing this one
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Is any other kio-magic working? That's the most basic one... Like media:/ or audiocd:/ ?
[01:25] <ubuntu_> KDE is better for child than XFCE?
[01:25] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, yeah, they work now
[01:26] <cy__> i was even able to install the fonts.. no more errors.. but still, it does not show up in the list of selecteable fonts.. even after restarting konsole
[01:26] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: foobar:/ (note the colon slash) is always a kio-slave of KDE, those are pretty useful...
[01:26] <cy__> yeap, i'll remember that
[01:26] <cy__> :] 
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Is it in the personal folder?
[01:27] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, nope
[01:27] <ubuntu_> can I download and use KDE 4.0 beta in Kubuntu 7.04??
[01:27] <ubuntu_> I'm noob :)
[01:27] <stdin> ubuntu_: read the topic
[01:27] <ubuntu_> okey
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu_: Why would you want to use beta software then?
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Hey!
[01:28] <stdin> hi MilhousePunkRock :)
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Once I disabled the error correction in the system settings for audio cds, kaudiocreator reads fine
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: There is still something wrong with the slave though, when I want to eject the CD by clicking on the media:/ applet in kicker, it says "audiocd:/ not found"
[01:29] <Angelus> somebody knows how can i install a kernel from kernel.org on kubuntu?
[01:30] <malqos> cy__:i have no idea why but my computer doesnt see any networks
[01:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: You will have to configure and compile your own kernel using the sources. Probably not an easy task...
[01:30] <cy__> malcolmb, have you configured it to use eth1 ?
[01:31] <Angelus> i know how to compile and configure a kernel MilhousePunkRock
[01:31] <Angelus> but is there some  more tasks to do to be ran on kubuntu?
[01:31] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: What are you using to "see networks"? I still need more input about the actual network
[01:31] <stdin> MilhousePunkRock: don't think I ever use that, I just press the button on the drive
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: I'd say "make menuconfig" "make && make modules install" or whatever that was, copying the kernel to /boot and editing your menu.list accordingly
[01:33] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: The tower is out of arm-length reach... ;) And I got used to it from the faulty eject button on my old drive.
[01:33] <Angelus> hmm
[01:33] <Angelus> what about the initrd image MilhousePunkRock?
[01:34] <malqos> i downoad some wifi radar
[01:34] <malqos> :)
[01:34] <aryr100> hello all
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: Well, I have only built my own kernels on Gentoo, things were a little different there, I guess...
[01:34] <malqos> i have d-link routher
[01:35] <stdin> agg, compiz just killed my X :p
[01:35] <Angelus> yeah even i MilhousePunkRock lol
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> stdin: Ha! :P
[01:35] <aryr100> need this cmd for kde (alt+f2 gksudo nautilus) ?
[01:35] <stdin> aryr100: kdesu konqueror
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> aryr100: Alt-F2 will launch a command, yes, but instead of gksudo, use kdesu, and replace nautilus with konqueror
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Just like stdin already said
[01:36] <mario3600> Shit. Where I can get flash plugin for konqueror?? :/
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: The question is WHY would you want to build your own kernel? And have you googled for how-tos?
[01:36] <aryr100> lol keep the cmd's the same penguin
[01:36] <aryr100> thx
[01:36] <MilhousePunkRock> !language | mario3600
[01:36] <ubotu> mario3600: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <mario3600> :) okey
[01:37] <mario3600> repeat
[01:37] <mario3600> Where I can get flash plugin for konqueror?
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> !flash
[01:38] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:38] <knowledge25> i need help with my sudo i keep getting & error message.The package lg3d-java3d needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[01:38] <mario3600> thx,ubotu ;)
[01:38] <jussi01> !bot | mario3600
[01:38] <ubotu> mario3600: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:39] <Angelus> MilhousePunkRock: to get the latest kernel
[01:39] <MilhousePunkRock> mario3600: What you want is probably "flashplugin-nonfree", ubotu is a bot, and repeating a question that quickly is impolite
[01:39] <mario3600> wow
[01:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: You could install the Gutsy kernel instead, that is 2.6.22
[01:40] <Angelus> how MilhousePunkRock ?
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=511974
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: If you need to find a more explicit howto, I could try to find it, I know there is one
[01:41] <combo> - how can i change KDM Mnager ?
[01:42] <malqos> cy__:are you there?
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Angelus: I just read through the forum post, the manual method is pretty much what the other howto was...
[01:44] <cy__> malcolmb, i am
[01:44] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, simply copied the fonts file into my ~/.fonts/ and it works ;)
[01:45] <Angelus> well
[01:45] <malqos> i really dont know what to do?what informations do you need?how i can get it?
[01:45] <Angelus> ill try to compile it manually then
[01:45] <Angelus> ;p
[01:45] <cy__> malcolmb, have you tried using knetworkmanager ?
[01:46] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: You could also try wicd
[01:46] <malqos> ok i download it rigth now knetwork manager
[01:47] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: Unlike knetworkmanager wicd can handle static IP adresses too
[01:47] <combo> does anybody using KONVERSATION client know how make server list showing as TABS on the bottom not as a list on the left ?? :] 
[01:47] <cy__> MilhousePunkRock, ok.. i didnt yet know that.. i shall remember it :) just wanted to help
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Settings, Interface, Tabs, choose you location there...
[01:48] <malqos> no wireless network found
[01:48] <MilhousePunkRock> cy__: So little malqos tells us about his actual network, I doubt he is using static IPs though
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: Consider turning off hiding the ESSID for the time being
[01:49] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: crap i have not in english... can u tell me in settings which one (from top) is this INTERFACE? :D
[01:49] <d-_-b\> salve
[01:49] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: first, second from top or which one ? :D
[01:49] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Interface should the very first one, and tabs is the last in that sub-list
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Use the icons for orientation, Interface is a screen with a brush above, and tabs, well, that's the "new tab icon"
[01:50] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: found that!
[01:50] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: thanks a lot ;)
[01:51] <malqos> milhouepunkrock: what shoul i do????
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: Are you sure there is a wireless network at all?
[01:52] <malqos> yes
[01:52] <malqos> im sure
[01:52] <combo> how to install KDM theme Manager so i can change login manager theme? i've downloaded some new stuff but can't install it :S
[01:52] <malqos> bum my computer doesnt see anything
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: I assume that is your own network, right?
[01:53] <roger> :)
[01:53] <malqos> yes
[01:53] <malqos> i dont do anything with it
[01:53] <roger> :)
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: You need "kdmtheme"
[01:53] <malqos> just connect and everything was great when i had windows
[01:54] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: so i have to istall it via apt-get ? :)
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: kdmtheme yes, it will reside in system settings, IIRC you can add themes from there..
[01:55] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: ok, thx once again! (i could figure out the name of that program :) )
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: What kind of encryption do you use?
[01:55] <knowledge25> can anybody help me with my sudo
[01:55] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: apt-cache search <whateveryouarelookingfor>
[01:56] <malqos> what?how i can check it?
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: Go you router's configuration panel
[01:56] <MilhousePunkRock> knowledge25: Do you use looking glass at all? Are the repos enabled? Maybe sun changed the repos?
[01:57] <boris_> how can i change pic of KMenu ?
[01:57] <malqos> ok im checkink
[01:57] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: i downloaded this KDMTHEME but can't find where ? :| how to launch it ?
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: could be "kcmshell kdmtheme"
[01:58] <stdin> ^ needs to be ran as root
[01:58] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: but is there any other way that via Console ?
[01:58] <combo> some icon ? :}
[01:58] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: It should be in the system settings
[01:58] <combo> yes - u said that
[01:59] <combo> but it is NOT :|
[01:59] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Maybe you need to restart KDE
[01:59] <combo> CRAP! "kdeinit: can't connect to the X Server"
[01:59] <combo> yes
[01:59] <stdin> combo: we can read lower case letters just fine thanks. it's not in system settings, it's in kcontrol
[01:59] <combo> maybe yes :D
[01:59] <combo> let's see
[01:59] <boris_> how can i change K Menu's pic
[02:01] <stdin> boris_: save the icon you want as /usr/share/icons/default.kde/32x32/apps/kmenu.png
[02:02] <boris_> stdin do u know where i could get icons ?
[02:02] <stdin> google?
[02:03] <stdin> boris_: maybe kde-look.org too
[02:03] <runlevelten> boris_: You know you can also get whole icon themes on kde-look.org
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> boris_: Icons as in "Crystal SVG" or "Oxygen"? http://kde-look.org
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi | Hobbsee
[02:03] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[02:03] <MilhousePunkRock> :)
[02:03] <sayers> MilhousePunkRock: =[
[02:04] <fkm> Is there a good KDE firewall? I use Firestarter atm which - I think - is a Gnome application :\
[02:04] <Hobbsee> hiya MilhousePunkRock
[02:04] <combo> oh no! what it might be?! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34789/ :|
[02:04] <stdin> fkm: guarddog is the kde version
[02:04] <MilhousePunkRock> fkm: Just edit the iptables rules to your needs ;)
[02:05] <stdin> combo: don't use sudo, use kdesu
[02:05] <combo> OF COOOOOURSE :] 
[02:05] <stdin> combo: and ignore the BadDevice errors too
[02:06] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: You could comment everything that is referring to "wacom" in your xorg.conf to get rid of that
[02:08] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: and if comment WACOM in xorg.conf what then? this FAILED TO OPEN DEVICE will disappear?
[02:08] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: or what it caused?
[02:09] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: Yes, it's for wacom stylus input on tablet PCs, if you don't have one, you won't need that
[02:09] <combo> MilhousePunkRock: ok then! this alert was very annoying for all my time with KDE
[02:09] <roger> ;] 
[02:10] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: I wonder you ever got to see that anyway... Should be hidden underneath KDM and is not fatal, AFAIK
[02:10] <combo> ey - btw. is there possible to have one icon that after clicking launch 2 programs? e.g. COMMAND: 'beryl & beryl-manager' ? :)
[02:10] <malqos> milhouepunkrock:  i have no idea what kind of encryption i use, i have routher di-524, but i found something on the box that it may be WEP
[02:11] <MilhousePunkRock> malqos: You will surely need the key then... Also, is you ESSID hidden?
[02:11] <combo> i mean is there such mark like '&' or something ?
[02:11] <malqos> but it also  support WPA
[02:11] <combo> that i'm writting 'first_command & second_command'
[02:11] <boris_> how do i install icon themes
[02:13] <MilhousePunkRock> combo: command1 && command2
[02:13] <combo> ok then! THX
[02:14] <MilhousePunkRock> boris_: System settings, appearance, icons, install new design
[02:18] <yeniklasor_> Do you know a different K menu?
[02:20] <nitesh> i am a complete newbie, want to know the step by step procedure of installing kde-kdm-themes and how to use them
[02:20] <pag> nitesh, " sudo apt-get install kdmtheme kde-kdm-themes "
[02:21] <pag> nitesh, after it's done use System Settings (or kcontrol) to change themes
[02:21] <pag> yeniklasor_, like kbfx?
[02:22] <nitesh> thanks pag
[02:22] <pag> np :)
[02:24] <yeniklasor_> pag : yes do you know any other
[02:25] <Lieke> hooi!
[02:26] <pag> yeniklasor_, the kmenu itself... then there's something like "tasty menu" (I can't remember the right name).. then there's one that imitates Gnome-like menus. But afaik those two aren't in the repos.
[02:26] <yeniklasor_> pag : ok thanks
[02:26] <Lieke> when i start kxdocker, it chrashes
[02:27] <yeniklasor_> I saw a menu on pardus linux, it was great
[02:27] <yeniklasor_> at least not like win. 95 menu :)
[02:27] <pag> Lieke, iirc you have to run composite manager to get kxdocer to work..
[02:27] <jon_> anyone using nvidia drivers? My OpenGL stuff is crashing X
[02:27] <Lieke> how do i do that?
[02:27] <Lieke> pag
[02:27] <pag> !composite
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <pag> :( ok.. lets try different approach..
[02:28] <pag> !beryl
[02:28] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:28] <Lieke> !composite
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <pag> Lieke, there are also lighter composite managers (though they have little effects) like kompmgr and xcompmgr
[02:29] <Lieke> do i have to install those?
[02:29] <workstohard> is there an app to show if a system is listing on a port before you connect , besides telneting to it on port %x
[02:29] <Lieke> with sudo apt or something?
[02:30] <pag> Lieke, they all can be installed from adept, but you'll need a working 3d acceleration
[02:30] <Lieke> my nv driver is loaded... does that mean i have acceleration?
[02:30] <workstohard> pag. what are you trying to do ?
[02:31] <pag> workstohard, basically: to get kxdocker to work (and iirc it requiers composite)
[02:31] <Lieke> glxinfo | grep direct says I have no direct acceleration
[02:32] <workstohard> yea sorry Dont know that one /ack
[02:32] <Lieke> so it means I have to change the xorg.conf file
[02:32] <pag> !nv | Lieke
[02:32] <ubotu> Lieke: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <workstohard> i used sudo atp-get intall nvidia
[02:34] <workstohard> done..
[02:34] <workstohard> hah
[02:34] <workstohard> err nvidia-glx that is
[02:35] <Lieke> nvidia-glx
[02:35] <Lieke> okay, let's try
[02:36] <Lieke> and then.. do I still have to change xorg.conf for something? of run eselect opengl set nvidia or so?
[02:36] <knowledge25>  i need help with my sudo can somebody help me ?
[02:36] <workstohard> what are you trying to acoomplish
[02:36] <Lieke> oh, nevermind, eselect is not used in debian :p
[02:36] <Lieke> okay, nvidia-glx is installed...
[02:36] <workstohard> yea
[02:36] <workstohard> now
[02:36] <workstohard> logout  and or restart x
[02:36] <Lieke> that's it?
[02:36] <Lieke> okay, let's try
[02:36] <pag> workstohard, ehmm no enabling?
[02:37] <workstohard> I had to restart in kubuntu
[02:37] <workstohard> atdept takes care of it
[02:37] <workstohard> i restarted x and came up with nvidia splash
[02:37] <Lieke> okey!
[02:37] <nitesh> pag, I installed the KDM themes as well as KDM theme manager, but in sys. settings KDM theme manager tab requires root password. However, there is no "Administrator Mode" Button
[02:38] <pag> nitesh, alt+f2 -> kdesu kcontrol
[02:41] <workstohard> anyone good with deny.hosts
[02:41] <workstohard> I need to purge a log so i can rememe my work ip which it denited
[02:41] <workstohard> hah
[02:41] <workstohard> it work?
[02:41] <lieke> i restarted but did not get nvidia splash logo :(
[02:42] <workstohard> well easyiest wasy i check
[02:42] <stdin> lieke: you need to run nvidia-xconfig
[02:42] <lieke> okee
[02:42] <stdin> lieke: "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[02:42] <workstohard> was if the glscreen saves worked
[02:42] <workstohard> and you have an Nvidia card right?
[02:42] <pag> " sudo nvidia-glx-config enable " is nice to make things work (it can also mess up your X, which isn't that nice)
[02:42] <lieke> yes workstohard
[02:43] <lieke> okee, rebooting again ^
[02:43] <lieke> joepie :)
[02:44] <lieke> it worked ^^
[02:44] <lieke> i got the logo ^^
[02:44] <kaminix|shindeir> What's the difference between a .ott and .odt? If I'm going to use a file as a template, why is .ott better?
[02:45] <workstohard> anyone good with host.deny?
[02:46] <lieke> it's still chrashing!
[02:47] <lieke> 1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.29
[02:47] <pag> lieke, installed from the repos?
[02:47] <lieke> WARNING: Warning user kxdocker_conf.xml may be corrupt: loading last backup!
[02:47] <lieke> i think so ^^
[02:47] <workstohard> try from repros
[02:47] <workstohard> always better
[02:48] <lieke> and whats repros?
[02:48] <KeksNico> I need help
[02:48] <pag> lieke, I'm not quite sure, if kxdocker is the app, but I recall some app, which repo-version sucked big time... I had to compile it just to get it to launch
[02:48] <pag> !ask | KeksNico
[02:48] <ubotu> KeksNico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:50] <KeksNico> There is a process: hald-addon-stor, user halddaemo, the process use 99%cpu @start, i searched allredy in the communityboard, but did not help...
[02:50] <lieke> pag: first time it loaded for 30 seconds then chrashed because nvidia wasnt installed yet. second time i tried i got this warning and it chrashed again
[02:50] <KeksNico> Its strange, cause this problem wasnt there everytime
[02:50] <KeksNico> after a Reinstall,
[02:50] <lieke> i try to reinstall but it doesnt work :'(
[02:51] <KeksNico> reinstall doesnt work too @my problem, although the LiveCD got this problem now :X
[02:51] <pag> lieke, try to launch composite manager ( xcompmgr  should be enough for this purpose) and try to relaunch the kxdocker
[02:54] <lieke> xserver chrashes when running xcompmgr
[02:54] <yeniklasorr> How to install kbfx ?
[02:55] <yeniklasorr> !kbfx
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <pag> !info kbfx
[02:55] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[02:55] <fkm> Oops. Was away and when I came back my system had frozen
[02:55] <yeniklasorr> pag : I installed it nothing changed
[02:56] <fkm> Well. Other question now anyways ;)
[02:56] <pag> yeniklasorr, add it to panel
[02:56] <lieke> pag, the server chrashes while xcompmgr is running
[02:56] <pag> yeniklasorr, right click on panel -> add applett -> kbfx
[02:56] <yeniklasorr> ok
[02:57] <pag> lieke, hmm... strange... you have aixgl?
[02:57] <pag> !aixgl
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aixgl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <lieke> dunno :s
[02:57] <pag> :( bot doesn't understand me today
[02:58] <lieke> no i dont, pag
[02:58] <pag> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX
[02:58] <stdin> pag: aixgl? :p
[02:58] <pag> now I know why ubotu didn't get me - I mistyped (again)
[02:58] <pag> lieke, that link is for you :)
[03:01] <[10litrov] > why konqueror doesn't load any webpage on my dialup connection (any other prog work)?
[03:02] <boris_> where do i put icon i want to have instead of kmenu ?
[03:02] <pag> [10litrov] , my guess is knetworkmanager... try diabling it, and see if konq. starts to work
[03:02] <runlevelten> boris_: you've been told that before... scroll up
[03:03] <boris_> yeah but i completely closed conversation
[03:03] <boris_> konversation
[03:04] <yeniklasorr> pag : Kickoff menu http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/d/d3/Suse10_2-final-kickoff.jpg
[03:05] <[10litrov] > pag, thank you! networkmanager is disabled and konqueror is working.
[03:05] <pag> yeniklasorr, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kickoff-qt+on++Kubuntu+7.04?content=55864 (remember to read cautions)
[03:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:06] <runlevelten> boris_: the file will be called kmenu.png and be in your icon theme folder
[03:07] <runlevelten> that is /usr/share/icons/<yourchosentheme>/32x32/apps/kmenu.png or ~/.kde/share/icons/<yourchosentheme>/32x32/apps/kmenu.png
[03:07] <runlevelten> it may need replacing at different sizes than 32x32, too :)
[03:08] <lieke> pag, it still chrashes!
[03:08] <lieke>  but xcompmgr works
[03:08] <pag> lieke, "it" = kxdocker?
[03:08] <yeniklasorr> pag : How to do this sysinfo do you know http://www.kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/55864-1.jpg
[03:08] <lieke> yep!
[03:09] <pag> lieke, probably kxdocker *is* the app, which repo-verison didn't work... try compiling it (if you really need it; personally I see no real use for that app)
[03:09] <lieke> I think the xdocker_conf.xml file is burnt from last crash
[03:10] <Pali> how can i run skype plugin in kopete? i download kdeextragear, compile and show error:DBus found, but is too new.It is not supported by Skype neather by the skype plugin for KopeteThe plugin won't compile.   What i have do?
[03:10] <pag> yeniklasorr, sorry, I'm too lazy to find the link myself, but there are sysinfo packages for Kubuntu on kde-look.org - try to search for sysinfo and it should find them
[03:12] <boris_> how do i restart kicker
[03:13] <pag> boris_, " dcop kicker default restart "
[03:14] <boris_> i hate kde
[03:14] <lieke> pag: thanks for the help so far, i guess I'm almost up and running.. But I'm afraid the configuration file is corrupt
[03:15] <combo> does anybody know some name of splah-screen manager ? :)
[03:15] <combo> *splash-screen of cuz :)
[03:15] <pag> lieke, it's possible..
[03:16] <Pali> how can i using skype with kopete?
[03:16] <yeniklasorr> My kwin crashed a few minutes ago. And I couldn't get work anyting. Isn't there any way to fix this issue?
[03:16] <ivan_> hi all's
[03:16] <slougi> Pali: you can't
[03:16] <pag> combo, kcmshell ksplashthememgr  maybe? what do you mean?
[03:16] <Pali> slougi  kopete has plugin skype
[03:17] <Pali> slougi: but i cant compeled it
[03:17] <combo> pag: exactly this i've been looking for :D
[03:17] <combo> pag: thx a lot :)
[03:17] <pag> np :)
[03:17] <ivan_> :)
[03:18] <pag> hello ivan_ :)
[03:18] <ivan_> hi pag
[03:18] <ivan_> do you speak french?
[03:18] <pag> !fr | ivan_
[03:18] <ubotu> ivan_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:19] <lieke> pag: where could I find that information? Tried googling but cannot find.. and reinstalling doesn't fix the issue neither
[03:20] <pag> lieke, if the packege contains a broken config-file, then you'll have to download sources from their webpage and replace non-working config  with working ones (from the sources)
[03:24] <nitesh> the KDM login page does not fit screen... used different themes but the same result
[03:30] <icecruncher> hi, how can I change the time limit for sudo
[03:30] <icecruncher> ?
[03:31] <pag> icecruncher, sudo visudo  ?
[03:31] <icecruncher> nope
[03:32] <nitesh> the KDM login page does not fit my screen... used different themes but the same result
[03:36] <mendozin> holass
[03:38] <Mclovin_School> good morning everyone
[03:39] <pag> Mclovin_School, hello
[03:41] <Mclovin_School> :D
[03:48] <yeniklasorr> Do you know a app for to be a dj on a shoutcast server (with playback support) ?
[03:48] <Ben_Cs> is ubuntu.irc is same server as freenode?
[03:52] <genii> Ben_Cs: Yes
[03:52] <Ben_Cs> cool
[03:52] <lieke> anyone knows where the config files of kxdocker are installed?
[03:55] <Ben_Cs> had horrible bugs when installed kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu. just finished installing a clean kubuntu. very nice
[03:56] <lieke> hehe
[03:56] <lieke> u tried installing kxdocker yet?
[03:56] <Ben_Cs> i have now learned the hard way not to install one version of ubuntu on another.
[03:56] <Ben_Cs> nope
[03:57] <Ben_Cs> lieke: i like the original dock
[03:57] <lieke> yeh
[03:58] <lieke> wanted to try kxdocker but it fails to install
[03:58] <lieke> oh well..
[03:58] <lieke> mayb later
[03:58] <lieke> gtg now
[03:58] <lieke> cya'll
[03:58] <Ben_Cs> c ya
[04:00] <Ben_Cs> what u ppl prefer: firefox or konquer?
[04:00] <genii> I like firefox but it's all personal preferences.
[04:01] <andrea> list
[04:02] <Ben_Cs> i forgot. where do i change kde keyboard shortcuts?
[04:03] <SlimeyPete> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse
[04:03] <SlimeyPete> (iirc)
[04:03] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[04:04] <Ben_Cs> does gmail notifier work ok on kde?
[04:04] <icecruncher> yes
[04:04] <Ben_Cs> cool
[04:04] <icecruncher> but I'd use kcheckgmail
[04:05] <Ben_Cs> no synaptic in kde? how to search packages then?
[04:06] <genii> adept
[04:06] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: get synaptic or use adept, or use cli
[04:06] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:06] <genii> Ben_Cs: I like CLI, eg: apt-cache search <somenamehere>
[04:07] <Ben_Cs> genii: i prefer doing it by gui
[04:07] <icecruncher> in your case apt-get install synaptic
[04:07] <Ben_Cs> adept then i guess
[04:08] <Ben_Cs> icecruncher: doesn't adept as powerfull as synaptic?
[04:08] <icecruncher> pretty much same, synaptic has been around longer
[04:08] <icecruncher> i like it more
[04:08] <icecruncher> but its a matter of preference
[04:08] <genii> Ben_Cs: Again it's all personal preferences. adept is what comes with kde so no installing anything is needed. But if you like synaptic you can install that to use
[04:08] <SlimeyPete> synaptic's a bit more stable IME
[04:09] <genii> SlimeyPete: That seems to be the general consensus
[04:09] <Tomi-idle>  adept is preferrable on kde
[04:09] <Ben_Cs> adept manager is to manage installed packs, and add/remove progs, is to install them?
[04:10] <icecruncher> if I may correct, adept commes with kubuntu, other some kde systems have synaptic as default like pclos
[04:13] <Ben_Cs> i don't get it. i have adept-installer, and adept-manager. they both do the same?
[04:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[04:15] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: adept installer lets you install packages and remove them, manager is more komplex lets you install to more detail, more selection, and remove stuff/purge
[04:15] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:15] <Ben_Cs> but they both see the same packages available?
[04:15] <MilhousePunkRock> I recently converted my desktop from Gentoo (also with KDE 3.5.7) to Kubuntu Feisty and now I am having problems with audiocd:/ and KAudioCreator
[04:16] <Angelus> hmm when i run noname script on mirc from, some text doesnt come up good and somedialogs doesnt work fine, is there something i must install for wine?
[04:16] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: manager has moer details, more packages
[04:16] <icecruncher> Ben_Cs: installer has basic, nice rounded ones
[04:17] <Ben_Cs> ok thanks
[04:17] <Ben_Cs> brb
[04:17] <MilhousePunkRock> When the error correction in the KControl Module for Audio CD is enable, KAudioCreator does not read anything. When it's disables, it reads (faster than it should) and there are lots of artifacts in the tracks...
[04:17] <icecruncher> ur welcome
[04:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !info cdparanoia
[04:20] <ubotu> cdparanoia: audio extraction tool for sampling CDs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.10+debian~pre0-4build1 (feisty), package size 41 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmm, according to the CD Paranoia homepage, this is a testing version. How would I possibly downgrade? Add the edgy repo to my sources.lst?
[04:22] <doug_> how do i ch1 unpacked cup of chicken, small bowl of lettuce, 2 tablespoons of caesar dressing, 1/4 cup of cheese, 2 corn tortillas, 1/4 cup of salsacursor when i launch a program?ange the settings so that the program icon doesn't bounce by the
[04:23] <doug_> woops sorry
[04:23] <doug_> how do i make it so that when i launch a program it's icon doesn't bounce by my mouse pointer?
[04:24] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: KControl, program start indicator (or something) in appearance
[04:24] <doug_> so run kcontrol in terminal?
[04:25] <mnt> Does anyone know where I can find the manual to the way (k)ubuntu configures pure-ftpd? I can't find the manual either on pure-ftpd's homepage, kubuntu.org or in the manuals on my system.
[04:25] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: You cold, Alt-F2 or katapult will also work
[04:25] <dwidmann_> doug, pull up kcontrol (not system settings), in the filter box search for launch feedback
[04:25] <doug_> milhousepunkrock: thanks
[04:26] <doug_> dwidmann_: thanks
[04:28] <Ben_Cs> damn! konquer shows gmail page all messed up!!!!!!!
[04:33] <Ben_Cs> does kde handle gnome apps ok?
[04:33] <doug_> for wireless networks, what's the difference between managed, repeater, master, and secondary?
[04:33] <dwidmann_> Ben_Cs: should, then again the only gtk apps I use are gimp and dvd::rip ...
[04:34] <dwidmann_> (if nothing else those work okay)
[04:34] <SlimeyPete> Ben_Cs: yes, handles them just fine
[04:36] <Ben_Cs> ok
[04:43] <sparrw> how can i specify a parameter for a module that is loaded at boot time (automagically, discover?)
[04:45] <stdin> sparrw: put them in /etc/modprobe.d/options
[04:46] <Ben_Cs> is there a way to make the desktop show commonly used icons, like: browser, my comp, network etc.   ?
[04:46] <sparrw> thanks stdin
[04:47] <gimmy> ciao
[04:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Ben_Cs: Yes, just drag them there
[04:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Ben_Cs: Of course you will need to have desktop icons enabled in the desktop settings
[04:50] <Ben_Cs> MilhousePunkRock: ok. thought you have some boxes to check, like in gnome.
[04:53] <trekdann1> is there some way to get a console background (fbdev) without custom kernel patches like gensplash?
[04:54] <edtronic> hello i need help
[04:54] <edtronic>  am using ubuntu
[04:55] <edtronic> thers and aplication that is inegreted in the kde version of debian
[04:55] <edtronic> is like a terminal
[04:55] <edtronic> integrated in the folder
[04:56] <trekdann1> hmm can you rephrase that?
[04:56] <edtronic> ok ok
[04:56] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: He wants a terminal in a konqueror window
[04:56] <edtronic>  theres a an aplication in debian the aplication is like a terminal integrated in the folders
[04:56] <edtronic> right
[04:57] <edtronic> can i get it on nautillus
[04:57] <trekdann1> hmm can't help you with GNOME stuff unfortunately, maybe ask in #ubuntu?
[04:58] <edtronic> yes
[04:58] <edtronic> thanks
[04:59] <edtronic> if i switch from gnome to kde in ubuntu can i get the konqueror terminal
[04:59] <edtronic> ?:
[04:59] <trekdann1> yes
[05:00] <trekdann1> just install kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: I did not find that option though... ;)
[05:01] <edtronic> ho!
[05:05] <trekdann1> MilhousePunkRock: it's called "Terminal Emulator" and isn't in the menus per default
[05:05] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: Ah, Kubuntu's crippled view profiles, huh?
[05:05] <trekdann1> yes
[05:07] <esra_> hey
[05:07] <esra_> wat's up
[05:07] <trekdann1> nothing really
[05:07] <esra_> i'm esin
[05:07] <esra_> from turkey
[05:07] <MilhousePunkRock> the ceiling
[05:07] <trekdann1> -_-
[05:07] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi | esra_
[05:07] <ubotu> esra_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:08] <esra_> thx
[05:08] <trekdann1> dunno if "Terminal Emulator" is a fitting name tho.. should be "Integreted terminal" or something like that
[05:09] <esra_> hey
[05:09] <esra_> r u there?
[05:09] <esra_> ubotu
[05:09] <MilhousePunkRock> !bot | esra_
[05:09] <ubotu> esra_: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:10] <trekdann1> !lol
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdann1: Someone needs to add that... ;)
[05:11] <trekdann1> esra_: don't worry. it's happening all the time
[05:11] <trekdann1> MilhousePunkRock: hmm maybe there's a good reason for it i don't know about
[05:11] <MilhousePunkRock> bot abuse maybe.. :D
[05:12] <doug_> my alps touchpad on my laptop has 7 total events dedicated to it, and event 3, which is tapping the bottom right corner of the pad, acts as a right click.  how do i disable that?
[05:13] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: How did you initially set up the events?
[05:14] <doug_> milhousepunkrock:  i don't know, however the synaptic driver did.  I've changed my xorg.conf to change my vertical scrolling and horizontal scrolling options, but i don't know what the option is for right button click emulation
[05:15] <MilhousePunkRock> doug_: You probably are on the right path, but I don't know anything about it... My laptop has a trackpoint
[05:15] <doug_> milhousepunkrock: thanks
[05:17] <HumpBack> Hello all
[05:17] <HumpBack> how do i turn a kubuntu feisty into a server only release (no X)?
[05:17] <underdog5004> HumpBack, remove X
[05:17] <underdog5004> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg, I think
[05:17] <MilhousePunkRock> install a command line system from the alternate cd
[05:18] <underdog5004> then remove all the gui apps as well
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> HumpBack: remove x-windows-system
[05:18] <underdog5004> or just boot into runlevel 2
[05:18] <SlimeyPete> erm, x-window-system
[05:18] <HumpBack> underdog5004: there is no /etc/inittab
[05:19] <underdog5004> HumpBack, oh, ok
[05:19] <Feli> Hola
[05:20] <underdog5004> !es | Feli
[05:20] <ubotu> Feli: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> or just dont run the X stuff at boot.
[05:20] <Feli> S
[05:20] <Dr_willis> inittab is not used by ubuntu any more for that
[05:21] <Dr_willis> remove the gdm/kdm service
[05:22] <Feli> Por el momento no, gracias
[05:23] <elite101> hey i have a Audio CD and  i wanted to burn some files to the CD but K3B thinks i always wanna start a new session
[05:23] <elite101> but i just wanna add more files? how do i do this
[05:23] <Dr_willis> if the cd/sessions was closed. You dont. I think
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Unless its a cd-rw
[05:23] <Feli> Stefan
[05:24] <elite101> yeah its a CD-R
[05:24] <elite101> but i can do that in windows? i can just add more files to the cd.. why cant i with k3b?
[05:24] <elite101> is there a nero linux?
[05:25] <dwidmann_> Yes
[05:25] <dwidmann_> But if you can't get it to work with k3b it might be a more serious problem, maybe nero won't work either, then again you won't know until you try eh?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Id like to see it done under windows..
[05:26] <Dr_willis> If its a closed session  - as far as i know.. its DONE.. :0 unless theres some trick some tools are using.
[05:26] <dwidmann_> Wait a minute, add more files to the cd? You have to select "multisession cd" in one of the tabs when you do the initial burn or it won't let you  ...
[05:26] <elite101> u can add files to a cd in windows its not hard u drag and drop and burn? who is that hard?
[05:26] <elite101> okay
[05:26] <Dr_willis> drag/drop in windows uses the UDF 'filesystem' - as if the cd was a big floppy.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> thats the 'trick' i guess. :)
[05:27] <Dr_willis> i never burn cd's that way in windows.
[05:27] <elite101> hey
[05:27] <elite101> it says insert media i have a Audio cd in it wont let me select it, even thou its mounted
[05:28] <Dr_willis> You normally dont need to mounmt an audio cd.
[05:28] <elite101> it wont let me burn a cd from befor only if i start a new one?
[05:28] <elite101> i was just saying that it was there
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ive never seen a way to add a new song to the end of an audio cd.
[05:28] <elite101> i dont wanna start a new one cuz i wanna save the cd i have now for F7
[05:28] <runlevelten> Burned audio CD-R != writable media.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> rip the cd back to mp3's then reburn it.
[05:29] <runlevelten> You have finished with the burning of the CD. It is done.
[05:29] <elite101> urgg i can do this in windows but the funny thing is my windows inst working with my PCI card so i need burn the drivers to cd intorder for me to go online
[05:29] <Dr_willis> an audio cd is not using the UDF system.  for one.. and its a cd-r, not a rw for 2nd..
[05:29] <elite101> no
[05:29] <elite101> i add files to cd's all the time in windows
[05:29] <Dr_willis> USING the UDF filesyste,
[05:29] <elite101> just it wont work in k3b
[05:30] <Dr_willis> are you refering to files, or audio songs? or mp3 files?
[05:30] <elite101> files
[05:30] <elite101> .exe's
[05:30] <Dr_willis> i think we are getting differnet things confused
[05:30] <Dr_willis> elite101,  thats NOT the same as an audio cd.
[05:30] <elite101> no really?
[05:30] <Dr_willis> you can use the udf stuff and use a cd as a big floppy disk.
[05:30] <runlevelten> No
[05:30] <Dr_willis> thats what windows drag/drop burning does.
[05:30] <runlevelten> You can't do that with a real audio CD.
[05:30] <elite101> I HAVE AUDIO CD AND I wanna burn files to it that arent AUDIO*******
[05:30] <elite101> no its a burned one
[05:30] <sehe> Dr_willis: if you're gonna rip CD's back for re-burning *don't* reencode mp3 or you'll be compounding mpeg distortion
[05:31] <Dr_willis> elite101,  doing that is not possible either i belive.
[05:31] <elite101> no its not
[05:31] <Dr_willis> audio cd's are a different filesystem then iso9660
[05:31] <elite101> its just everything i select needs a new cd untouched
[05:31] <sehe> elite101: yes it is possible, but you'll have to do some FAQ reading
[05:31] <elite101> omg i dont need ISO
[05:31] <elite101> xD thanks sehe,
[05:31] <sehe> elite101: Audio CD's always only consider the first session. (which needs to be TAO)
[05:31] <Dr_willis> you do relaize that windows can read/write ext2/3 filesystems?
[05:31] <runlevelten> elite101: You need to understand what you're trying to do.
[05:31] <elite101> yeah i dont know?
[05:32] <sehe> elite101: Adding a 'data session' can be done in the regular multi-session fashion. Only CDROM-drives will see those (or DVD players perhaps)
[05:32] <elite101> i dont know what im doing
[05:32] <sehe> elite101: lemme find a link for ya
[05:32] <elite101> mhm let me see
[05:32] <elite101> "NEW********DATA CD********
[05:32] <elite101> NEW* my cd= NOT NEW
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: http://howto-pages.org/cdwriting/08.php
[05:33] <elite101> i cant do anything in k3b because it needs a new cd not a already burned one xD
[05:33] <elite101> i will try that
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: you cannot add anything unless it is a multisession TAO disk that is unfinished
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: see the quote "cdrecord can do CD-XA very easily, although we'll be concentrating on pure data CD-ROM's for the minute. Audio, and therefore CD-XA and mode 2 CD-Extra, will be covered later on."
[05:33] <sehe> elite101: CD-XA is the thing you want to do
[05:33] <runlevelten> Quite. That's called coastering, and it's what happens if you decide what you want after pressing burn :(
[05:34] <elite101> the disk im using is unfinished so i can add files later and now everytime i go todo something it needs a new CD a newww one
[05:34] <sehe> elite101: not sure if CD-XA is reliable >2 sessions
[05:35] <sehe> elite101: Remember, you can only add *data* sessions. The audio needs to be in session 1
[05:35] <sehe> (session 0)
[05:35] <runlevelten> Funnily enough, I was just talking about the dustiness of cdrecord et al this am.
[05:35] <elite101> nvm i will just burn it on windows anyways
[05:35] <elite101> its to much of a hassle
[05:35] <sehe> boots elite101
[05:35] <sehe> heheheh
[05:36] <elite101> well it kinda makes sense? i would the files are for windows anyways
[05:36] <sehe> elite101: just kidding
[05:36] <sehe> elite101: some of the best ppl i know use windows
[05:36] <elite101> i mounted my HDD its a fat32 partition so i can make it accesiable to windows but it wont let me rite to it?
[05:36] <elite101> lol obv u need windows too
[05:36] <elite101> u need both
[05:37] <sehe> elite101: why?
[05:37] <elite101> mhm Shockwave?
[05:37] <elite101> WPE
[05:37] <elite101> ;)
[05:37] <sehe> sehe: i must admit it has taken me some while, but i'm now happily using linux in the workplace, which is Ordina Microsoft Enterprise Solutions (sic)
[05:38] <runlevelten> I don't need windows for anything.
[05:38] <runlevelten> You can use shockwave in Linux
[05:38] <elite101> i do for alot of programs
[05:38] <elite101> wpe-pro/xlink/xbc
[05:38] <elite101> lol
[05:38] <sehe> sehe: The trick i use, is not to tell anyone. Just yields a number of surprised looks once they find out, but they can't argue, because i've been doing my job as ever :D
[05:39] <elite101> wow? sehe? is there 2ppl?
[05:39] <elite101> o_0
[05:39] <sehe> elite101: as in colleagues or as in, man, you type too much?
[05:39] <runlevelten> Mind you, 'll be installing a windows vm for adobe CS etc soon, so I can't talk :)
[05:39] <sehe> ow i c
[05:39] <sehe> sehe [05:39] <elite101> sehe, is there 2 of u?
[05:39] <elite101> 0.0
[05:39] <sehe> good spot
[05:39] <elite101> is there?
[05:40] <sehe> nah
[05:40] <sehe> elite101: the world couldn handle us
[05:40] <dim_> howdy all, I have just downloaded the video which shows samba installation via Suse
[05:40] <dim_> and the video is using Yast stuff
[05:40] <sehe> elite101:  what btw is wpe-pro?
[05:40] <elite101> winstock editior
[05:40] <elite101> ;)
[05:40] <dim_> what is the equivalent of Yast in Kubuntu?
[05:40] <sehe> dim_: mmmm use a different video:_
[05:40] <elite101> packet injector/
[05:40] <runlevelten> dim_: There isn't really one.
[05:41] <sehe> !apt | dim_
[05:41] <ubotu> dim_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:41] <runlevelten> There's an experimental attempt at a yast port.
[05:41] <stdin> dim_: system settings and adept
[05:41] <sehe> !adept | dim_
[05:41] <ubotu> dim_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:41] <elite101> lol not the same "packet" thing
[05:41] <sehe> elite101: just close your eyes for 6 secodns
[05:41] <dim_> oh, i see, so Yast is just the package manager in Suse?
[05:41] <elite101> o_0?
[05:41] <runlevelten> No.
[05:41] <sehe> dim_: not just, it's the installer as well
[05:42] <runlevelten> YaST is the configuration manager in large part.
[05:42] <sehe> dim_: but, a package manager is what you are looking for
[05:42] <dim_> so via Yast, he is enabling swat
[05:42] <sehe> dim_: doesn't sound familiar to me
[05:42] <ScarFreewill> when I try to comple an app that depens on gtk2+ it tells me the following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34808/ I've got libgtk2 installed what should I install?
[05:42] <runlevelten> dim_: were you looking for samba configuration through yast?
[05:42] <dim_> how do I enable swat in kubuntu?
[05:42] <sehe> !swat
[05:42] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:42] <runlevelten> the suse equivalent of apt is apt4rpm or zypper.
[05:42] <dim_> runlevelten: yes
[05:43] <Dr_willis> theres alternatives to swat. that work better in many cases
[05:43] <Dr_willis> theres a kde samba config toool that i perfer.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i just forget what package it came in. :)
[05:43] <dim_> Dr_willis: which one is it? how do I enable it?
[05:43] <Dr_willis> search for samba in the package manager
[05:43] <runlevelten> Isn't it in kcontrol by default, whether you have samba or not?
[05:43] <dim_> Dr_willis: ok
[05:43] <sehe> runlevelten: i thought so
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I forget if its default or not. theres an iconin the control panal area for me.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> then again. I know samba well enough to just edit the samba config file. :)
[05:44] <runlevelten> kcontrol  internet & network  Samba
[05:45] <Dr_willis> I use that fusesmbfs stuff  mainly these days.  Samba is transparent to me these days with that.
[05:45] <ScarFreewill> !info gtk+-2.0
[05:45] <ubotu> Package gtk+-2.0 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:45] <dwidmann_> I can't even get samba to work in Feisty :(
[05:45] <sehe> runlevelten: settings:/Network/
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i always edit the smb.conf file. to enable homes, set up a public share.  then add the users smbpasswrd's
[05:46] <sehe> dwidmann_: i can't *not* i mean i did precious little and it worked out of the box
[05:46] <runlevelten> Ah, the settings kioslave
[05:46] <runlevelten> :)
[05:47] <sehe> Dr_willis: what's the usage pattenr on that? Where do you supply the 'UNC' paths?
[05:47] <sehe> runlevelten: easier to point out the location
[05:47] <sehe> runlevelten: shame you can't settings:/Network/Samba directly
[05:48] <runlevelten> well you can open modules individually with kcmshell.
[05:48] <sehe> runlevelten: ok but there's no intellisense on that like in konq... i'm lazy
[05:48] <runlevelten> ie: kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[05:48] <Dr_willis> sehe,  my samba network shows up where my user decides to 'mount' it to. I do a 'fusesmbfs Network' and  then in the Network Folder i  see MSHOME/MyMachines/Shares
[05:48] <sehe> runlevelten: good tip tho in case i want to make things really easy
[05:49] <runlevelten> sehe: kcmshell --list ;)
[05:49] <sehe> Dr_willis: you mean that (1) workgroup browsing must be enabled (2) you have to keep browsing (slloooooooooow) all the time?
[05:49] <runlevelten> kcmshell `kcmshell --list | grep samba` heh
[05:49] <lttos> what is the name for the developers channel for kde
[05:50] <runlevelten> lttos: what's it for?
[05:50] <sehe> runlevelten: and it lists the 'extension'  modules as well!
[05:50] <Dr_willis> it caches the shares,  and it shows up just as a normal directory from the users end. Ive not had any issues with it being slow.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> But on a mixed linux/windows network. it works out best. :)
[05:50] <sehe> Dr_willis: must admit my aversion to browsing stems from 'network neighbourhood' in WinNT :D
[05:50] <lttos> is there no channel like kde coders or developers on this server runlevelten
[05:50] <drarem> I got a weird message, konvo made me enter my nick as identified
[05:50] <runlevelten> ooh, on mine, the rest of the description is non-valid modules
[05:51] <sehe> drarem: it's standard behaviour
[05:51] <runlevelten> lttos: there is. Start with #kde
[05:51] <Dr_willis> sehe,  theres no brosing. :) it just looks like a dir. However when new shares/machiones show up. there can be a delay when they first appear.
[05:51] <drarem> ok
[05:51] <sehe> drarem: no need unless you want privs like pms
[05:51] <sehe> :register | drarem
[05:51] <sehe> !register | drarem
[05:51] <ubotu> drarem: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:51] <drarem> ty
[05:52] <sehe> Dr_willis: i might, therefore, give it a spin :D
[05:52] <Dr_willis> sehe,  fuse has a lot of other ways to do a similer thing.. theres a sshfs feature for it also (not used that)
[05:53] <sehe> Dr_willis: no need with fish: unless you often use it with e.g. ooffice. Gee, i might get into that fuse shit sooooon
[05:54] <GhOsty2K> folks, why can i not browse /home/user/desktop ?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> sehe,  problem with fish is  well.. I cant use it from the console/when X isent running, or im ssh'd in.. ect.. :)
[05:54] <GhOsty2K> it says no file or directory when there is a directory there.
[05:54] <rolle> hello
[05:54] <Dr_willis> do a ls -l /home/user
[05:54] <Dr_willis> and see what it says is there.
[05:55] <rolle> is there a german kubuntu channel?
[05:55] <sehe> I've got to run...
[05:55] <runlevelten> !de
[05:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:55] <sehe> !de | rolle
[05:55] <ubotu> rolle: please see above
[05:55] <GhOsty2K> shows the desktop in blue
[05:55] <GhOsty2K> wither permissions to user user
[05:55] <runlevelten> Wohoo!
[05:55] <rolle> thx
[05:55] <runlevelten> ;)
[05:55] <ObeLisK_12183> Hi @ all :)
[05:55] <sehe> Gh0sty2K: start kdesktop?
[05:55] <GhOsty2K> im in ssh
[05:55] <sehe> good bye all!
[05:56] <GhOsty2K> need to untar a file on the desktop, it wont even let me move the file from there.. in winscp it shows the files there.
[05:56] <boris_> people
[05:56] <ObeLisK_12183> pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=12183
[05:56] <ObeLisK_12183> please help a poor penner xD
[05:57] <runlevelten> have you created any such directory as /home/user/desktop GhOsty2K?
[05:57] <GhOsty2K> well my understanding is that this was there by deafult, otherwise i wudnt have been able to copy the tar file to the dir via winscp
[05:57] <runlevelten> if you called it "desktop", your file will be called "desktop" now.
[05:58] <runlevelten> There is no desktop directory by default afaik.
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> user@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /home/user/
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> total 4
[05:58] <runlevelten> You maybe meant to copy it to Desktop
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> drwx ------ 3 user user 4096 ---- Desktop
[05:58] <GhOsty2K> thats the info that displays when i ls -l
[05:58] <sparrw> kpowersave says my monitor does not support brightness changing.  i can write directly to /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/LCD/brightness to change it, is there any way to make that GUI-friendly?
[05:59] <sparrw> Ghost-Wal: desktop != Desktop
[05:59] <GhOsty2K> ahh
[05:59] <GhOsty2K> sparrw thanks, lol my fault, bloody windows.. arrggh
[05:59] <Ghost-Wal> sparrw ..what?
[06:00] <GhOsty2K> Ghost-Wal i was using desktop not Desktop
[06:00] <sparrw> sorry
[06:00] <Ghost-Wal> OK
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Linux IS Case SeneSeTiVe :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> heh had to hammer that into a few people during my Linux 101 classes at work.
[06:01] <sparrw> os x is NOT
[06:01] <Dr_willis> and for some reason they could NOT understand the need for spaces after the commands
[06:01] <Dr_willis> actually OS-X  the underlaying OS is.. the gui is not. I belive
[06:01] <sparrw> which leads to fun when CPAN overwrites /usr/bin/head with /usr/bin/Head
[06:01] <Dr_willis> using the Bash Shell under OS0X and it does become case senesitive.
[06:01] <sparrw> no, HFS+ is the default FS for darwin, and its insensitive
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I think.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> My iMac is now a doorstop. :)
[06:02] <sparrw> ive got a mac mini that i want to run linux on, but EFI is beyond me
[06:02] <BluesKaj> what a shame , Dr_willis
[06:02] <runlevelten> Case insensitive default FS on a unix? I hate that kind of stuff.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  given how old it is.. :) im tempted tio put OS9 back on it.. but i dont need it anyway .
[06:03] <GhOsty2K> how do you move directories via shell, it wont let me via winscp
[06:03] <runlevelten> there are only two types of case insensitivity more revolting than that - 1. in programming languages, 2. on the MacDonald's ads
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !bash
[06:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:03] <GhOsty2K> whats the command..
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !shell
[06:03] <BluesKaj> ok, mysister has an old imac about 7 yrs old now ...it's PITA
[06:05] <BluesKaj> couldn't believe an IMac with the internet explorer browser on it
[06:06] <GhOsty2K> why wont it let me move files to /opt/ ?
[06:06] <GhOsty2K> says permission denied, do i need to sudp ?
[06:06] <GhOsty2K> says permission denied, do i need to sudo?
[06:06] <BluesKaj> could be
[06:06] <BluesKaj> kdesu is more likely
[06:06] <runlevelten> Yes. files in the system outside the user's home directory won't usually belong to the user
[06:07] <GhOsty2K> so how can i change this?
[06:08] <GhOsty2K> i need to replicate another box and need this dir to be in this location /opt/
[06:08] <sparrw> [how]  can i calibrate my wacom tablet?
[06:08] <runlevelten> use sudo to move it.
[06:08] <lttos> what kind of wacom table do you have sparrw, and where do you use it for
[06:08] <GhOsty2K> is it just sudo mv source dest ?
[06:09] <runlevelten> yeah
[06:09] <Ben_Cs> hello
[06:09] <GhOsty2K> thanks, think it worked :0)
[06:09] <GhOsty2K> runlevelten thanks worked
[06:09] <martinus> Hi, I'm trying to install doom3 in linux, and have downloaded Id's installation script, but I can't figure out how to run it. Only message I get back is 'command not found' when I try to run it in shell
[06:09] <Feli> Hello Ben
[06:09] <Ben_Cs> is it normal that kde uses 1.2G of RAM? (no special progs are running)
[06:10] <sehe> Ben_Cs: no
[06:10] <M_42> Does anyone here know how to force a LCD to turn its blacklight off?
[06:10] <runlevelten> martinus, do the following:
[06:10] <sehe> Ben_Cs: but it is normal that such an amount is used in buffering
[06:10] <Ben_Cs> sehe: so WTF?
[06:10] <runlevelten> 1. open a terminal in the folder by pressing F4 2. do this: chmod +x filename
[06:11] <sehe> Ben_Cs: so in ksysguard, look at the tooltip for memory usage and see if the memory is actually 'used' or 'buffer'
[06:11] <Ben_Cs> sehe: performance monitor shows 1.2G is used
[06:11] <runlevelten> 3. do this: ./filename
[06:11] <lttos> sparrw: ???? are you here
[06:11] <martinus> runlevelten: thanks, I'll try
[06:11] <runlevelten> martinus: good stuff :)
[06:11] <sehe> Ben_Cs: buffer is just memory used to speed up disk access but is not in fact 'occupied' if a program wants to use it
[06:11] <sparrw> lttos: its a tablet pc
[06:12] <Ben_Cs> sehe: the tooltip doesn't show how much is buffered
[06:12] <sehe> Ben_Cs: performance monitor? you mean ksysguard?
[06:12] <Ben_Cs> sehe: kde system guard. yes
[06:13] <runlevelten> blueskaj: that's nothing.
[06:13] <sehe> Ben_Cs: default kysguard shows three coloured bands: blue =used, orange=buf, yellow=cached
[06:13] <GhOsty2K> ive just copied a lampp dir from another box to a new box, where would i find the httpd service and mysqld service to start it ?
[06:13] <lttos> but you where talking about a wacom tablet,
[06:13] <sehe> Ben_Cs: it sais so in the tooltip of the graph area
[06:13] <runlevelten> " Download Internet Explorer 5 for UNIX with Outlook Express now. "
[06:13] <lttos> does wacm make's tablet pc's sparrw
[06:13] <sehe> Ben_Cs: i stand correcte: i meant 'cache' memory is not actually occupied
[06:14] <sparrw> lttos: no, they make touch screens
[06:14] <martinus> runlevelten: it worked :D thanks a lot
[06:14] <Ben_Cs> sehe: blue is 344MB, and all till 1.2G is yellow
[06:14] <runlevelten> martinus: good stuff - enjoy!
[06:14] <knoopx> hi all
[06:14] <sehe> Ben_Cs: you only have two colours?
[06:14] <runlevelten> might play some d3 tonight myself now.
[06:14] <lttos> but you where asking how to calibrate your wacom table right
[06:14] <lttos> tablet
[06:15] <knoopx> is it possible to make konqueror show the preview thumb of video files at the middle?
[06:15] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, my sister din't know that IE was microsoft browser first :)
[06:15] <Ben_Cs> sehe: no. 3 colors are set
[06:15] <sehe> Ben_Cs: yellow should be fine. Other wise do cat /proc/meminfo | head
[06:15] <GhOsty2K> BluesKaj lol
[06:15] <Ben_Cs> sehe: but shown are blue and yellow
[06:16] <sehe> Ben_Cs: that shoulld be fine. With me yellow=cache=harmless. The middle band is orange, but if it is missing, no buffered memory is present :)
[06:16] <Ben_Cs> sehe: it shows: Cached:         875268 kB
[06:16] <sehe> Ben_Cs: 'cat /proc/meminfo | head' in a shell will just give named figures (easier)
[06:16] <BluesKaj> my sister has her own business , not exactly technically minded, but she's learning
[06:16] <sehe> Ben_Cs: great. That means, you have a lot of 'spare' memory not required by KDE which is being utilized for speedup
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> cool
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[06:17] <sehe> Ben_Cs: this frequently happens when you run indexers (updatedb, beagle-index etc).
[06:17] <sehe> Ben_Cs: lemme show you my stats atm:
[06:17] <Ben_Cs> sehe: ok
[06:18] <sehe> Ben_Cs:  MemTotal:      2075708 kB MemFree:         71700 kB Buffers:        310184 kB Cached:         748268 kB
[06:18] <sehe> so vast majority is cached
[06:18] <Ben_Cs> sehe: ok. you comforted me
[06:18] <Arwen> yes, and that's a Good Thing (tm)
[06:18] <sehe> Ben_Cs: Windows Vista has a similar feature nowadays ('prefetch') and it confuses the hell out of windows users too
[06:19] <sehe> Ben_Cs: not that tehre would actaully be any memory left on Vista ehehehehehe
[06:19] <sehe> brb
[06:19] <runlevelten> and not that many people use it, tbh
[06:19] <knoopx_> is it possible to make konqueror show the preview thumb of video files at the middle?
[06:20] <drif> anyone got experience with x11vnc? I get connected but the window never pops up on client side..
[06:20] <M_42> Does anyone here know how to force a LCD to turn its blacklight off?
[06:21] <sehe> M_42: other than remove power?
[06:21] <M_42> lol
[06:21] <xerox1> how to configure compiz under kde?
[06:21] <sehe> M_42: assuming you mean backlight, i'd say that's monitor vendor specific if at all possible
[06:22] <M_42> its a KDS radius
[06:22] <sehe> xerox1: i can recommend to install beryl-manager as a wm-switcher for that
[06:22] <GhOsty2K> how do i stop apache2 on ubuntu? /etc/init.d/apache2 stop does not work
[06:22] <sehe> xerox1: dunno whether you havce to install beryl as a whole first
[06:22] <xerox1> beryl and compiz? thought there may be problems
[06:23] <sehe> xerox1: not with me
[06:23] <sehe> xerox1: i can switch on the fly
[06:23] <xerox1> sehe: thanks
[06:23] <GhOsty2K> ?
[06:24] <sehe> GhOsty2K: sudo ?
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> didnt work
[06:24] <sehe> GhOsty2K: apache2 or apache installed?
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> apache2 s
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> apache2
[06:24] <sehe> apache mught be /etc/init.d/httpd
[06:24] <GhOsty2K> no dir called httpd
[06:25] <sehe> GhOsty2K: must be freak (crashed ' hanging apache2)
[06:25] <GhOsty2K> nope, its serving the default website, lol
[06:25] <sehe> GhOsty2K: i'd try killall apache2 (or ps -Af|grep apac for processes)
[06:25] <GhOsty2K> k will try
[06:25] <sehe> GhOsty2K: If you don't like that you might  reboot, init 1 or whatever
[06:26] <GhOsty2K> that worked
[06:26] <GhOsty2K> :)
[06:26] <sehe> GhOsty2K: should work now, if it recurs you have a bigger problem (ppbly config related)
[06:26] <sehe> i'm now definitely off for dinner
[06:26] <sehe> cheers
[06:27] <ubuntu> I have Fedora 7 installed, and I'm trying to get it to dual-boot with KUbuntu 7.04.  I have put the KUbuntu CD into my computer, and I'm using KUbuntu right now with Konversation.  At the same time, I'm also going through the install wizard
[06:28] <bfrbfr> I've chosen to manually partition the disk.
[06:28] <bfrbfr> How would I create a new partition for KUbuntu?
[06:28] <bfrbfr> Right now, I have /dev/sda1 ext3 /media/sda1 size: 106mb used: 23mb
[06:29] <bfrbfr> and /dev/sda2 size:249949mb used: unknown
[06:29] <gargamel> hi
[06:30] <dim_> i couldn't get samba working
[06:30] <gargamel> has anyone pidgin?
[06:30] <Huey> does the kernel included with kubuntu provide stack-smashing protection?
[06:30] <Huey> i'm trying to exploit my own program as an exercise, and keep getting a segfault rather than a shell
[06:30] <dim_> how can I enable and start sharing files with samba in kubuntu?
[06:31] <M_42> does anyone here know.. is it possible to kill all signal to a monitor in linux
[06:32] <BluesKaj> ctrl alt backspsce
[06:32] <BluesKaj> or ctrl alt f2
[06:34] <drif> BluesKaj: nasty..
[06:34] <Arwen> M_42, unplug it
[06:35] <brendan___> Hello, does anyone know a media key manager that does not require X to work
[06:35] <Arwen> BluesKaj, if you shut down X.org, the tty consoles are still sending it a signal
[06:35] <brendan___> so it can be used from the terminal
[06:35] <xerox1> gargamel: pidgin didnt work with my machine
[06:35] <GhOsty2K> how can i find the location of apache? i think i have two installed in different locations
[06:35] <Arwen> brendan___, what's a media key manager?
[06:35] <brendan___> Arwen, something that maps keycode to commands
[06:36] <Arwen> oh, don't know one
[06:37] <Martinus> Man, after starting Doom with doom3 from terminal, it logged out of KDE, restarted X, and prompted me with the login screen. When I type my passwd, it just go back to the login-screen again...
[06:37] <Martinus> no X-access at all
[06:38] <jthomas> please don't kill me: anyone know of a Windows IRC channel?
[06:39] <BluesKaj> #windows
[06:39] <Arwen> ##windows
[06:40] <jthomas> wow its really there, thanks guys!
[06:41] <BluesKaj> we try not to lead ppl astray , but if you must .....
[06:41] <M_42> Arwen, is there a command I can set to kill signal after inactivity?
[06:41] <Arwen> don't know
[06:41] <M_42> k thx
[06:42] <BluesKaj> you can use the system settings power saving timer
[06:42] <bfrbfr> Does anybody know if I can create a partition in the KUbuntu installer?
[06:43] <BluesKaj> dunno if it totally kills X , somehow I doubt it
[06:43] <bfrbfr> I'm trying to get Fedora 7 and KUbuntu to dual-boot, with Fedora 7 already installed
[06:43] <Martinus> have anyone experienced something like that?
[06:43] <dim_> people how do I get to configure samba? http://localhost:901 does not work
[06:44] <BluesKaj> bfrbfr, my question is, why ?
[06:44] <dettoaltrimenti> I just mounted an external NTFS drive in kubuntu, and I'm having two problems- I can only read, but not delete or write, and I have to be superuser to access the folder in konqueror. I just mounted by doing 'sudo mount sdb1 /media/usb'- what can I do?
[06:45] <bfrbfr> Why use Fedora 7 and KUbuntu 7.04?  I like both...I'd like to use both at the same time.
[06:45] <BluesKaj> dim , I've been using smb4k samba browser , and my localhost swat is broken too but smb4k still gives me access to the windows network
[06:45] <bfrbfr> I have like 200gb hard drive space, which should be more than enough, I think
[06:45] <dim_> BlueKaj: ok and how can I install and configure smb4k then?
[06:46] <BluesKaj> yeah dim_ , go for it
[06:47] <jossver_> but dual boot is not always good
[06:47] <jossver_> I have done a  dual boot once but windows was flipping as always
[06:48] <knoopx> uh does twinview split what you see in both monitors?
[06:48] <dim_> BlueKaj: after installing smb4k, how can I gain access to it?
[06:48] <knoopx> cant figure how to only expand the desktop to one more monitor
[06:48] <dim_> the same? http://localhost:901?
[06:49] <Assid> swat ?
[06:50] <dim_> Assid: swat isn't working, don't know why. Then how can i get access to smb4k?
[06:51] <Assid> dim_: dont know about swat.. ive given up on samba.. it costed me a project
[06:51] <BluesKaj> dim_,, lookin k-menu/utilities
[06:51] <dim_> Assid: what package do you use then instead of samba?
[06:51] <Assid> dim_:  i use samba regular share.. configuring.. i manually edited the conf file
[06:51] <GhOsty2K> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[06:51] <GhOsty2K> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[06:51] <GhOsty2K> Unable to open logs
[06:52] <GhOsty2K> whats that mean?
[06:52] <GhOsty2K> lol
[06:54] <bfrbfr> eh
[06:54] <boris_> how do i start kbfx ?
[06:54] <boris_> i mean
[06:55] <boris_> how do i enable it
[06:55] <flake> how do i find out if a box is ubuntu, sun, fedora, etc.. via terminal?
[06:56] <zdadrdem_> uname -a?
[06:56] <flake> it's either a sun or a centos :/
[06:57] <drewcipher__> uname -a
[06:58] <Ben_Cs> what's the difference (in kde-look.org) between "theme manager theme" and "theme/style for kde" ?
[06:58] <BluesKaj> dim_, after you launch smb4k , you will prolly get a access denied message, run these 2 commands in the terminal. if security isn't a problem on you network : sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt,  then, sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount
[06:59] <BluesKaj> i have to run ...later folks
[06:59] <zdadrdem_> Ben_Cs theme manager theme needs the theme manager
[07:00] <Ben_Cs> zdadrdem_: but still, is it installed the usual way?
[07:01] <boris_> how do i enable kbfx
[07:02] <zdadrdem_> Ben_Cs iirc yes
[07:02] <Ben_Cs> ok. thanks
[07:04] <zdadrdem_> Ben_Cs systemsettings has no theme icon, maybe you have to use kcontrol
[07:05] <Ben_Cs> ok
[07:08] <combo> ::: BERYL SUX AS HEEEELL!! :[[[[[[[[[[[
[07:09] <combo> - is that correct, isn't it ? :}
[07:10] <jerware> hi
[07:10] <jerware> i configured CUPS.  and then lp and lpr says Error - no default destination available.
[07:10] <Arwen> combo, no caps please
[07:10] <Arwen> Whether or not Beryl sucks doesn't really matter since it's dead software.
[07:11] <combo> Arwen: sorry :) but i've been little frustrated
[07:11] <combo> all day i were trying to install and configure beryl and at last when it happened ... no comment :|
[07:11] <ninHer> hi all
[07:13] <runlevelten> combo: That's OK, we all get frustrated sometimes man
[07:13] <runlevelten> especially if something just won't come together.
[07:13] <jerware> especially when windows can do it but linux cant.
[07:13] <runlevelten> windows can do beryl, or CUPS?
[07:14] <jerware> print
[07:14] <combo> runlevelten: yes, yes... i'm to nervous... :] 
[07:14] <Arwen> why would you need CUPS on Windows? o.O
[07:14] <jussi01> hmmm, wheere is the setting in kopete for keeping logs of the messages in chats?
[07:14] <Arwen> and I think Windows does support connecting to a cups server
[07:15] <jerware> nm selectd wrong printer  :P
[07:15] <runlevelten> to connect to a cups server (not as outlandish an idea as you appear to think, heh)
[07:15] <runlevelten> and yes you can :)
[07:16] <jerware> must i set up samba if a windows machine wants to print via my CUPS server?
[07:16] <runlevelten> I have stress 'n' burn. I need to play games.
[07:17] <Assid> jerware: as far as i remember.. yes
[07:17] <runlevelten> anyone got TC:E or enemy territory installed?
[07:17] <Assid> if a windows machine needs to connect to it
[07:17] <petitout> hi maybe someome can help me... Isn't there supposed to be an add/remove program in kubuntu?
[07:17] <jerware> is it possible they just speak IPP rather than samba?
[07:18] <combo> guys maybe u know where can i download this wallpaper: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5778/534001fk2.jpg it's quite popular and i love it, huh ? :] 
[07:18] <pawjan> hello kubuntu users, can I ask a small question here ?
[07:18] <combo> i've seen this wallpaper many times on different screenshots
[07:18] <jussi01> !ask | pawjan
[07:18] <ubotu> pawjan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:18] <fannagoganna> sure, shoot
[07:18] <pawjan> oki doki
[07:19] <pawjan> so, using 7.04 mixture of x,k,u-buntu, now installed on different partition 7.10 but ONLY KUBUNTU, of course /home/pawjan I want to use but ...
[07:19] <pawjan> so far so good, just question:
[07:20] <fannagoganna> what is the question?
[07:20] <pawjan> how to REFRESH menu - I have lots of old apps there which are NOT EVEN INSTALLED on new 7.10 - I know there is kmenu but doing it manually ...
[07:20] <pawjan> so I'm looking for command like: kmenu --refesh-all-menu
[07:21] <pawjan> is there any like this ?
[07:21] <pag> combo, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Landscape+Keltern+%232?content=43844 <- isn't that it?
[07:22] <pawjan> hmm
[07:23] <pawjan> nothing ?
[07:23] <combo> pag: yes! it's this one! you're my man! everytime when i'm asking for help you come with a hand! thanks a lot!
[07:23] <fannagoganna> i've never heard of anything like this
[07:23] <pag> combo, np :)
[07:23] <combo> :] 
[07:24] <pag> pawjan, if you remove menu-config file, then menus should be recreated - I can't remember the filename though
[07:27] <petitout> having problems with removing and adding software as source I know there is supposed to be an add/remove app but can<t find it could it have been disabled because i installed MCE over Kubuntu???
[07:27] <pawjan> hmm, so by hands only ?
[07:28] <pawjan> or, where is menu file in .kde ?
[07:29] <pawjan> .kde/share/config/kickerr this one ?
[07:29] <elite101> i need help on mountin a FAT32 partiton i need the command to open up fstab
[07:29] <pawjan> elite: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[07:29] <elite101> kdesu kate /etc/fstab ?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> petitout,  as source? that add/remove app dosent handle from 'source' type installs.
[07:31] <elite101> is this correct:  /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat user,users,uuid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0 0
[07:32] <petitout> Dr_willis i installed programs yesterday with apt but had problems keeping it clean
[07:32] <Dr_willis> petitout,  clarify the problem. apt/adept/synaptic/that add/remove programs icon . all use the same backend. (the apt-get system)
[07:32] <petitout> was wondering if there is an install/remove app that kept it clean but can<t find it in kMenu
[07:33] <Dr_willis> the install/remove apt - is just calling adept, or synaptic with some options.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> 'keep it clean' means nothing to me.. clarify what you mean
[07:33] <elite101> what the ? i go to disk and filesystems and it only shows the control center
[07:33] <elite101> :S
[07:33] <petitout> sorry kindda new at this
[07:33] <llutz> elite101: /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 vfat users,uid=1000,dmask=022,fmask=133  0 0
[07:34] <petitout> is there a graphical interface fr adding and removing under kubuntu
[07:34] <petitout> ?
[07:34] <Arwen> adding and removing what?
[07:34] <petitout> new programs
[07:34] <Arwen> !adept
[07:34] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:34] <elite101> IIutz, whats that?
[07:35] <elite101> the same thing i just typed?
[07:35] <llutz> elite101: look closer, its corrected
[07:35] <petitout> checking it out thx
[07:35] <elite101> okay
[07:35] <Dr_willis> adept/synaptic are the main guis
[07:36] <sparrw> which kde*-dbg package will help me with System Settings crashing?
[07:38] <petitout> Is it possible they,re not installed on my system
[07:38] <elite101> errrrrrrrr its not opening open disk and filesystems menu
[07:38] <elite101> its crashed or something?
[07:38] <elite101> it keeps on showing Control Center
[07:40] <petitout> Can't find adept/synaptic I think it has got something to do with MCE doing all the system updating.
[07:41] <elite101> i need help mounting my HDD is there a command?
[07:42] <elite101> sudo /mount/hdb1
[07:42] <elite101> ?
[07:42] <jerware> once again linux has fucked me.
[07:42] <elite101> same here
[07:42] <elite101> this time harder than be4
[07:42] <elite101> ;)
[07:43] <sparrw> how can i get an onscreen keyboard at the screensaver lock password prompt?
[07:43] <elite101> sorry nvm for that
[07:43] <elite101> it worked
[07:43] <elite101> WUU!!!
[07:43] <elite101> IIutz, thanks a million
[07:43] <llutz> elite101: np
[07:43] <elite101> thanks for the correct spelling of the fstab line wuu!!!
[07:43] <elite101> thank's alot i tried everything to get it to work
[07:44] <elite101> now it does lol
[07:44] <elite101> well brb i gotta boot-up XP and install the drivers
[07:45] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[07:45] <hakim> hello
[07:45] <hakim> i'm new to kubuntu and found it ALL RIGHT
[07:45] <Dr_willis> petitout,  use the command line to launch things if your menus are all messed up
[07:46] <hakim> have u experiment problems with rxvt
[07:47] <Dr_willis> rxvt the terminal program? cant say that iuve seen any issues with it.
[07:47] <Dr_willis> I tend to use xterm, or eterm, or konsole mainly these days
[07:47] <hakim> launch graphical veiw from distant server
[07:48] <hakim> in windows its used with Xwin but in linux ??
[07:50] <elias85> anye mp3 encoders with Variable bit rate?
[07:52] <Arwen> lame
[07:52] <Arwen> !info lame
[07:52] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[07:53] <snowdonkey> Hey, my system has been completely freezing during and after a fresh installation of Kubuntu Dapper & Feisty.  I just ran Memtest from the Live CD and a single Failing Address produced a lot of errors.  The RAM is new so I can replace it in the store, is there a way to tell Linux not to use those error bits?
[07:53] <Arwen> if it's only on stick, you could remove it
[07:54] <dwidmann_> If the RAM is bad you probably don't want it anyway, replacing it would be wise.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> hakim,  you need to clarify what you are tryign to do..
[07:54] <snowdonkey> Alright.  I didn't know how common a RAM error was, and if I should just ignore it.  There definitely should be no errors?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> hakim,  i 'ssh -X remote server' and run X apps all the time. they then appear locally.
[07:55] <dwidmann_> definitely
[07:55] <snowdonkey> Alright, thanks arwen & dwidmann.
[07:56] <hakim> i'm not experimented with linux so i need to launch a "for example" a konqueror window froma distant server i used rxvt -display ... in windows but in kubuntu it's say can't display ...
[07:56] <Azzco> Hi I've got
[07:56] <workstohard> how can i create an admin user in mysql
[07:57] <Azzco> Opps, anyways I tried to install a newer version of the freetype package and it broke, whenever I try to use apt it wants to uninstall (I think) my intire system =S
[07:58] <hakim> ths dr_willis !! it's 100% what i need
[07:58] <workstohard> anyone know how to add an admin user in cli with mysql?
[07:58] <hakim> i tried ur command it and it's all right
[07:59] <Azzco> So how can I downgrade libfreetype6 to the packe in the repos without having to reinstall my whole system?
[07:59] <notv> hello does anyone know if the linux version of freepascal will be compatible with the windows version
[07:59] <jossver__> which processor is the best for linux
[07:59] <drewcipher__> workstohard:  can you login at all right now?
[08:00] <Arwen> jossver__, the fastest one
[08:00] <Arwen> a processor is a processor.
[08:00] <hakim> i will go but i found a very useful forum here sorry for my broken english see u soon
[08:01] <hakim> bye
[08:01] <jossver__> Intel or athlon
[08:01] <Dr_willis> hakim,  read up on ssh. its your best friend
[08:01] <notv> does anyone know about pascal?
[08:01] <Dr_willis> hakim,  displaying stuff on a WINDOWS machine - needs a little more work however
[08:01] <hakim> i used it with rsync (to avoid passwd line) but never see with -X
[08:01] <jossver__>  mean AMD or Intel
[08:02] <jossver__> which one is better for linux
[08:02] <hakim> thx a lot and see u soon
[08:02] <trekdanne> pascal is evil
[08:02] <jossver__> or for the computer I think AMD
[08:02] <Lynoure> notv: please ask the actual question you have, the answer to that one is "yes" by quite many here
[08:02] <Dr_willis> jossver__,  which ever fits your budget.
[08:02] <Arwen> jossver__, "better for linux"? A CPU is a CPU.
[08:02] <hakim> bye for all
[08:02] <Arwen> Intel CPUs are way faster and way more efficient at the moment.
[08:02] <llutz> notv: that stoneage-programming language?
[08:02] <notv> i just need to know if the linux version of freepascal is compatible with the windows version] 
[08:02] <jossver__> hmm...
[08:02] <jossver__> Thank you Arwen
[08:02] <notv> because all the computers at school are xp
[08:03] <jossver__> I thought AMD was ( wikipedia told that)
[08:03] <Dr_willis> I would say check the   freepascal  web site for that.
[08:03] <elias85> i ve just inserted an audio cd and amarok cant play it! even when I double click the audio cd icon it doesnt open.what can i do?
[08:03] <dwidmann_> before the Core Duos were released the AMD ones were definitely out front, but not anymore
[08:03] <Arwen> jossver__, AMD's been pretty much a joke for the last year or so
[08:03] <jossver__> thank you
[08:03] <jossver__> I am sure
[08:03] <Arwen> they were better back when Intel was releasing Pentium 4s
[08:04] <jossver__> Inetl is better I see
[08:04] <jossver__> when I buy a computer over three years I will see
[08:04] <Azzco> Help? libfreetype6 is broken and apt wants to uninstall (most of) my system
[08:06] <Arwen> Azzco, force a lower version of it?
[08:07] <Azzco> Arwen: how do I do that then?
[08:07] <Arwen> download the deb, dpkg -i it. Or you could try apt-get install package=version
[08:08] <Azzco> Thanks now I just need to figure out what the stable version had for number
[08:10] <Azzco> Thanks Arwen it's sorted out now :)
[08:14] <combo> i have a little riddle for KDE setting maniacs ;P here it is = http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6536/riddledp1.jpg
[08:15] <combo> hope that somebody will solve it :P
[08:16] <notv> i dl freepascal from synaptic...but i cant find it to open it
[08:16] <notv> how can i do that?
[08:17] <notv> combo adjust your transparency
[08:18] <aos101> combo: Configure Panel -> TaskBar -> Appearance -> For Transparency
[08:18] <combo> no, no... i'd like transparency, but want to make it more vissible :] 
[08:18] <combo> like KTorrent there is
[08:19] <combo> just not grey but BLACK
[08:19] <aos101> That's what the for transparency settinng will do.
[08:19] <notv> is there a rooms list somewhere?
[08:20] <dwidmann_> /list will list them, but that's a rather time consuming process
[08:25] <ubuntu> guys how is kubuntu able to  austomatically connect to the internet after a fresh install  with no messing around with the configuration ?
[08:26] <dwidmann_> ubuntu: Magic
[08:26] <drif> oh boy, if ever there were some security hole in adept manager - now would be the ideal case
[08:26] <ubuntu> grrrrrr not the anwser im looking for
[08:27] <drif> ubuntu: dhcp
[08:27] <ubuntu> yes
[08:27] <ubuntu>  but i dont need to put in a user name or pass
[08:27] <ubuntu>  it just happens
[08:27] <drif> ubuntu: it doesn't do its magic without some external help..
[08:28] <ubuntu> like now im useing the install disk to  talk to you guys with out configuering anything
[08:29] <dwidmann_> ubuntu: what type of internet connection do you use that you would need a password for?
[08:29] <drif> ubuntu: probably in bridged mode and fetched ip,dns etc. from isp
[08:29] <ubuntu>  i tried to install  SUSE 10.2  it installed perfeclty albeit that it dosent pick up my ehternet card with out some help any way  im having issues with the usename pass   its like all the sudden they have decided not to work
[08:30] <ubuntu>  althouhg i know this to be an error on my part
[08:30] <ubuntu> i was wonder if i could do anything to pick up on my connection like kubuntu
[08:31] <drif> it's most likely a driver issue with SUSE and your ethernet adapter
[08:31] <ubuntu> iv gotta wait another 6 hours before i can call my isp to confirm my details
[08:32] <drif> or were you able to manually enable it?
[08:34] <ubuntu> nah there not a driver issue as  i was messing around for hours trying to get the net up and then it started working  but curiosity killed the cat when i tryed to figure out how i did it
[08:34] <ubuntu>  i screwed everthing up
[08:39] <sparrw> i need my user to run a script as root without a password prompt.  this line in sudoers doesnt help like i thought it would:  %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/backlight
[08:40] <drif> this whole sudo thing has one drawback.. when you accidentally lock yourself out from admin/adm groups :D you're out..
[08:41] <drif> didn't remember usermod -G didn't preserve the existing groups... :-\
[08:43] <sammy> drif: ouch. you're stuck with booting from a cd and editing the groups file by hand or some such.
[08:44] <drif> sammy: yup - unless you know a nifty way to exploit my existing kdesu with adept manager..
[08:44] <sammy> drif: nah, I'm busy asking if anyone has any experience building packages from source with debug enabled so I can get some useful error messages (well, any error messages) from kopete :P
[08:46] <ubuntu_> hi
[08:47] <drif> sammy: can only locate some password sniffing exploits :D too bad my root hasn't got one..
[08:51] <esin> hi.. from turkey!
[08:52] <drewcipher__> Hello Turkey
[08:52] <esin> hello
[08:53] <drif> sammy: I think I got it :D I just need to create a local repository on another machine..
[08:53] <esin> what is up drewcipher
[08:54] <drewcipher__> esin:  just sitting back and trying to learn from the kubuntu pro's.  amazing what one can learn just watching.
[08:55] <esin> what do you mean?
[08:57] <tomyzecat> bonsoir
[08:59] <drewcipher__> esin:  nothing.  you asked what was up.  I'm just reading the support channel trying to learn more about Kubuntu
[09:00] <cprmpt> What's the best open source photoshop alternative? (please don't say gimp :/)
[09:00] <esin> drewciper: i m just like u
[09:03] <esin> tomyzecat: hi.. how are u?
[09:03] <notv> but gimp is the photoshop alternative
[09:04] <notv> ubuntu studio comes with a few other graphics programs you might check out
[09:04] <notv> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntustudio_7.04
[09:04] <kalorin> cprmpt: actually, GIMP
[09:04] <drif> does kdesu timeout?
[09:05] <drif> actually :D never mind that question..
[09:05] <kalorin> sorry to say that, I didn't think it would be either at first, but I've started using it and the raw loader I like better than photoshop
[09:05] <Deqc> french channel??
[09:05] <kalorin> and the rest of the stuff I can do just fine it after a couple of days using it
[09:05] <kalorin> !fr
[09:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:06] <Deqc> merci
[09:06] <kalorin> bough coop!
[09:06] <kalorin> <--- stupid american :)
[09:06] <Deqc> haha
[09:06] <Deqc> americana
[09:07] <kalorin> stoopid americana
[09:08] <sparrw> what is the binary for kde System Settings?
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[09:12] <dustin> So, my sound is all screwed up. Its all garbled, but when I set the sound buffer in the system settings all the way down it gets better. I'm using Surround 5.1 speakers as well and sound is only coming out of the front center and back right speakers. Anyone have any clues?
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> I can't rip audiocds (be it with audiocd:/, kaudiocreator or k3b), if the error correction for audio cds is enabled in kcontrol, it will never start reading, if it's disabled, i get a lot of jitter in the ripped songs...
[09:15] <bigadmin> Hi there
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> And the funniest part is: it worked on another distro with the exact same hardware and the equivalent software...
[09:15] <bigadmin> i am facing a problem in kubuntu
[09:15] <bigadmin> when i mount cdrom it is mounted succesfully
[09:15] <bigadmin> the players plays DCD s sucessfully
[09:16] <bigadmin> but i am not able to view contents using konqueror or cli
[09:16] <bigadmin> can some one out there help
[09:16] <elite101> hey
[09:16] <elite101> wow there is alot more ppl using Kubuntu :)
[09:16] <elite101> 391 nick's :)
[09:17] <dustin> too bad no one can help with anyones problems. hah
[09:17] <elite101> lol
[09:17] <elite101> cuz they have to many of there own
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> elite101: go to #gentoo there will be almost 1000 people in
[09:17] <elite101> i know
[09:17] <elite101> and #ubununtu
[09:17] <bigadmin> cool nice to hear
[09:17] <elite101> i will go there and make it 1,001
[09:17] <Arwen> #ubuntu is larger than #gentoo isn't it?
[09:17] <elite101> ;)
[09:17] <elite101> i think?
[09:18] <kalorin> is there a konqueror replacement that doesn' suck?
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> dolphin
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> :)
[09:18] <elite101> gentoo=976 nicks
[09:18] <kalorin> dolphin huh?
[09:18] <MilhousePunkRock> dustin: I try to help whenever I can, it's almost a coincidence I have a problem myself this time
[09:18] <Arwen> kalorin, depends what you're trying to use konqueror for
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> konqueror replacement that doesn't suck = dolphin
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> see kde4
[09:18] <elite101> ummm? 216ppl in ubuntu?
[09:18] <DarkWizzard> but it exists for kde4
[09:18] <kalorin> jsut browsing around the file system particularly it seems to get in a real mess when you click to view an image and then when you go back to the file system it's in a different layout mode than when you started
[09:19] <dustin> My CD drive won't eject o.o
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> *kde3
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> lol
[09:19] <kalorin> I just want to to behave
[09:19] <Azzco> Does anyone know where to get help with kig?
[09:19] <kalorin> when is kde4 due out?
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> October
[09:19] <elite101> lol nvm 1135 ppl in ubuntu :o
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> at least acording to plans :)
[09:19] <drewcipher> !kig
[09:19] <DarkWizzard> AFAIK
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Ben_Cs> is there a way to mount an image file as virtual cd/dvd?
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> Ben_Cs: see kiso
[09:20] <DarkWizzard> sudo apt-get install kiso
[09:20] <Ben_Cs> DarkWizzard: thanks. will check
[09:21] <DarkWizzard> np
[09:23] <dustin> Anyone know how I can get my CD drive to eject?
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> dustin: eject /dev/hdX
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> dustin: for your device, of course. if it's locked, try with sudo
[09:24] <dustin> well i have 2 CD drives, how do i specify
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> which one do you want to open?
[09:24] <dustin> its a CD-rw drive, its the second cd drive, i suppose
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> dustin: it will be either hdc or hdd, most likely
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> dustin: just try both
[09:25] <Ben_Cs> DarkWizzard: it supports only iso/nrg. how about mdf/mds
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> hmm
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> I haven't tryed that
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> sorry
[09:25] <DarkWizzard> try searching ubuntuforums.org
[09:25] <Ben_Cs> ok.
[09:26] <dustin> its hdd, however it is not ejecting
[09:26] <dustin> it does however read that there is a CD in the drive whenever the system boots up
[09:27] <dustin> well, not boots up, but is started.
[09:27] <dustin> like, it asks me what i want to do with the CD
[09:27] <dustin> so the drive must be working :\
[09:29] <willem_> hi guys, where does kubuntu save the downloaded packages, that I installed using adept? So that i dont have to download it again when I reinstall?
[09:29] <MilhousePunkRock> dustin: did you try with sudo?
[09:30] <dustin> yes
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> willem_: You dont have to take care of that, apt will know the package is already there
[09:30] <MilhousePunkRock> willem_: I think the folder is /var/apt/cache
[09:31] <ardchoille> It's /var/cache/apt
[09:31] <willem_> Mil/var/cache/apt/archives
[09:31] <willem_> milhouse: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:31] <MilhousePunkRock> ardchoille: Close enough...
[09:32] <willem_> thanks, I just wanted to keep a copy
[09:33] <willem_> right, so how do I skip the download if i reinstall?
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> willem_: If you did not empty the cache in the meantime, there is nothing to for you
[09:34] <elite101> is 3,675 MS/Ping good?
[09:35] <elite101> thats what it says on my screen
[09:35] <dustin> so, anyone know how i can get my cd drive open?
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> depends
[09:35] <ardchoille> willem_: I was under the impression that, if the packages are already in cache, they won't be dounwloaded again if you reinstall
[09:35] <willem_> MilhousePunkRock: cool, I know adept takes care of everything, but say I want to check out ubuntu, on another drive, without download say jdk again. can I just copy those files in the same folder on the ubuntu is?
[09:35] <willem_> ardchoille: New installation, with say ubuntu
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> willem_: There is a file that keeps a list of the installed packages
[09:35] <ardchoille> willem_: Ah, ok
[09:35] <willem_> resource.list ?
[09:36] <MilhousePunkRock> elite101: depends on what you are pinging and if that is an american 1,000 (one thousand) or a european 1.000 (one point oh)
[09:37] <elite101> lol jk its @ 160
[09:37] <elite101> the closest server or w/e is in toronto or something
[09:37] <elite101> for my internet
[09:38] <willem_> ardchoille: And another thing, Ive downloaded netbeans-xxxx-xx.bin, if i run it normally, will adept pick up that it was installed?
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> willem_: no
[09:39] <sehe> adept only works on debian packages
[09:39] <sehe> !adept
[09:39] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:39] <willem_> thanks
[09:39] <willem_> so if i debianise the packages, it will?
[09:40] <sehe> you can however use alien to debianize packages :D
[09:40] <sehe> !alien
[09:40] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:40] <willem_> alien?
[09:40] <sehe> :D
[09:40] <sehe> in case it is RPM
[09:40] <sehe> i think alien handles tar.gz too (?) and perhaps some other types
[09:40] <willem_> :/
[09:41] <willem_> cool
[09:41] <sehe> beware - it is probably working better one-way
[09:41] <willem_> sorry for all the question, im new, used slackware in highschool, and checking out kubuntu
[09:41] <sehe> the dependencies will still not work unless you forge the package names to be exactly yhose expected by other components
[09:42] <sehe> just try it out, but i'd keep with apt-* for the first 2 motnhs
[09:42] <sehe> nearly everything can be done
[09:42] <dustin> i restarted the computer and now my CD drive ejects
[09:42] <sehe> (learn to add repositories to sources.lst !repositories))
[09:42] <willem_> cool, I dont mind about the dependencies, those are normally small, im talking about jdk 6 and netbeans and mysql
[09:42] <sehe> !repositories
[09:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: You seem to prove yourself as an apt-expert just now. How can I get a specific version of a program?
[09:43] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: i'm afraid i don't know. It's called 'pinning' if i'm not mistaken
[09:43] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: Never had the need tho (too few problems with ubuntu heheheh)
[09:43] <Azzco> apt-get install package=version
[09:43] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: Ask me about gentoo portage tho...
[09:43] <dashan> hi
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Azzco: How will that work if the version is in the edgy repos but I am on a clean feisty system
[09:44] <willem_> kubuntu is cool, had problems getting my usb smart link modem to work though
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: I just switched from Gentoo last sunday (on this machine)
[09:44] <dashan> hi
[09:44] <sehe> Azzco: probably means that the package is obsolete. This is usually for reasons. Good ones
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[09:44] <llutz_> MilhousePunkRock: sudo aptitude install package=1.2.3-4 (<- version)
[09:44] <Azzco> MilhousePunkRock: I'm really not sure about that I've only used it once
[09:45] <sehe> Azzco: Try to google if the package has been banned, superceded before 'hacking' it
[09:45] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: ^^ misdirected comments
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> llutz_: That will be a first-timer, I have never used aptitude before
[09:45] <Azzco> lol yes I was beginning to wonder what weird question I couldn't remember
[09:46] <llutz_> MilhousePunkRock: should work with apt-get too, i prefer aptitude
[09:46] <willem_> thanks all, see later
[09:46] <Azzco> is adept a frontend for apt-get or something on it's own?
[09:46] <sehe> apt-get, dselect, dpkg, aptitude, synaptic, adept all part of the same family
[09:47] <llutz_> but try to avoid mixing usage
[09:47] <sehe> only with dpkg,dselect vs. apt-*
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: I think it was just a regular release cycle update... Gentoo is still on the old one, that's probably why it worked there and does not here
[09:47] <llutz_> sehe: apt-get and aptitude is also dangerous to mix
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> time for man apt-get i fear
[09:48] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: i abandoned gentoo for all everyday work (non-server) because of the boring compile-business
[09:48] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: I've sworn with Gentoo for years though
[09:48] <Azzco> llutz_: They are? I didn't know, I try to use aptitude but often use apt-get due to copy paste lazines
[09:48] <sparrw> im trying to find a 'wacomcpl' binary for ubuntu (or debian) so that i can calibrate my touchscreen.  other than building it myself from source, any ideas?
[09:48] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: yup. 'synaptic' is a great gui for pckg management
[09:49] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: I used it since November (been using Kubuntu on my laptop for more than a year now), but expat-hell last week was the last drop to leave it behind
[09:49] <llutz_> Azzco: the problem is, that aptitude holds a different own database for packages than apt-get. that might bring you into trouble
[09:49] <eugene> how do i install drivers in ubuntu?
[09:49] <sehe> sparrw: look at debian package repo's
[09:49] <sparrw> sehe: which ones?
[09:49] <Azzco> llutz_: do you know if there's a problem between adept and aptitude?
[09:49] <sehe> http://search.debian.org/
[09:50] <llutz_> Azzco: no, sorry
[09:50] <alluak1> how do i install drivers in ubuntu? ....
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: Except CD ripping, everything works better here, total setup and configuration time: 2 days. My gentoo system never got finished
[09:50] <sehe> Azzco: there is none
[09:50] <Azzco> Okay thanks for clearing that one out :)
[09:50] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: many gentoo systems got finished. Thing is, Ubuntu installs in 15 minutes INCLUDING all of kde + open office
[09:50] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: You can't touch taht :D
[09:50] <alluak1> how do i install drivers in ubuntu? ....?????????????///
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> alluak1: You need to specify what you want, and repeating your question all over again makes everyone angry
[09:51] <sehe> Azzco: just remember, everything 'apt' family is 'highlevel' and 'safish'
[09:51] <alluak1> i want to install vga driver
[09:51] <sehe> Azzco: things '.deb' 'd*' are on debian package level, less safe
[09:51] <knoopx> hi all
[09:52] <sehe> !question | alluak1
[09:52] <ubotu> alluak1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:52] <knoopx> how do you clear the thumb cache in konqueror?
[09:52] <sehe> !patience ! alluak1
[09:52] <alluak1> how to install drivers????????
[09:52] <sehe> !patience |alluak1
[09:52] <ubotu> alluak1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:52] <Azzco> Okay now you lost me ^^ I'll just use adept and aptitude and maybe a .deb if I can't find the package anywhere elese
[09:52] <alluak1> give some ak47
[09:52] <sehe> knoopx: there is a feature for this in KCOntrol under Privacy
[09:53] <sehe> alluak1: that's the spirit
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> now the big question is: will adept find the package in the edgy repos with a feisty sources.lst
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> !ops
[09:53] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[09:53] <alluak1> not carp
[09:53] <sehe> alluak1: Now... What's your graphics card?
[09:53] <alluak1> S3
[09:53] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: it won't
[09:53] <gnomefreak> MilhousePunkRock: ?
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> gnomefreak: alluak1 is asking the same question for the 10th time now
[09:53] <knoopx> but i just want to regenerate the thumbs for a folder
[09:53] <sehe> alluak1: that's pretty old. I venture you don't need a special driver
[09:53] <PriceChild> MilhousePunkRock, ?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> !repeat | alluak1
[09:54] <ubotu> alluak1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:54] <knoopx> i was wondering if thereis some helper file like the thumbs.db in winxp
[09:54] <sehe> alluak1: (by the way, if i'm out of touch with brand new S3-s tell me :D)
[09:54] <Mez> PriceChild, yeah, was thinking the same thing (did a /msg to him)
[09:54] <alluak1> my question = is it supported at ubuntu ?
[09:54] <alluak1> omgwtgsfafaas
[09:54] <sehe> gnomefreak: I think he got a AK47 and the message quite soon :D
[09:54] <alluak1> emba
[09:55] <alluak1> embola
[09:55] <alluak1> embolassy
[09:55] <sehe> alluak1: SHould be. Is it a very 'high' end card, or a generic SVGA thingie? I'd say the latter because my last S3 was 8 years ago :)
[09:55] <gnomefreak> alluak1: stop
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> alluak1: S3 is not a graphic card
[09:55] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: it is
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: Isn
[09:55] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: S3 Virge, S# (Cirrus Logic)
[09:56] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock:  ok
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: Isnt that a manufacturer and the card is like virge, trio, savage etc?
[09:56] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: could be (my bad)
[09:56] <Mez> @btlogin
[09:56] (alluak1/#kubuntu) xxxpass for adultbouncer plz
[09:56] <knoopx> xD
[09:56] <sehe> I think someone got himself bounced alrite
[09:56] (alluak1/#kubuntu) i will trad adultcheck gold
[09:56] <gnomefreak> Mez: ?
[09:57] <Mez> gnomefreak, one sec
[09:57] <gnomefreak> k
[09:57] <sehe> knoopx: yes it is buried underneath $HOME/.kde/
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> He know how to use IRC, at least... ;)
[09:57] <sehe> alluak1: #off-topic
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> I have never seen so many ops responding at once, btw...
[09:57] <gnomefreak> MilhousePunkRock: i was about to shut down when you rang :)
[09:58] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: when? YOu said !ops, you had it coming :LD)
[09:58] <Mez> gnomefreak, see -ops
[09:58] <sehe> alluak1: still intereseted in making your gracard work?
[09:58] <sehe> resolution! | alluak1
[09:59] <sehe> !resolution | alluak1
[09:59] <ubotu> alluak1: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Hehe... It's not my usual time in here anyway... Usually Hobbsee does the dirty work...  :)
[09:59] <ardchoille> sehe: He isn't in the channel
[09:59] <sehe> Then why isn't there a message he left? I'm an IRC noob ty for pointing it out tho
[09:59] <ardchoille> He sent a msg from outside the chan
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> So back on topic now: Do I have to add an edgy repo to downgrade cdparanoia?
[10:00] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: see, i don't have regular times (yet)
[10:00] <ardchoille> MilhousePunkRock: It's not good to mix repos like that.
[10:00] <petitout> going insane can't install flex....
[10:00] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: I'd venture you can't very well without confusing the hell out of adept/apt*
[10:00] <sehe> petitout: is that flex/bison (as in lex/yacc?)
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> ardchoille: I know, but there seems to be a problem with the latest cdparanoia and my liteon drive
[10:01] <petitout> fast lexical ...
[10:01] <ardchoille> MilhousePunkRock: uninstall it and compile a diff version?
[10:01] <petitout> cant remember exactly
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> I could probably get the .deb from packages.ubuntu though...
[10:01] <sehe> petitout: ok rite ; i't what i thought
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> ardchoille: Oh noes... I left compiling behind for good last sunday
[10:01] <sehe> what happens when you try to install it (how do you try to ?)
[10:02] <Arwen> what's mode +n do?
[10:02] <ardchoille> MilhousePunkRock: It was just an idea.. I'm sure there are other ways
[10:02] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: I'd go for single packages. Can be tedious, but you risk less of depency hell
[10:02] <sehe> Arwen: try 'man mode' ?
[10:02] <petitout> i do the ./configure
[10:02] <sehe> petitout: Ic. Any reason you dont 'sudo apt-get install flex' ?
[10:02] <Arwen> sehe, um..
[10:03] <Arwen> no?
[10:03] <petitout> it does what it's supposed to then try to make and no target to make
[10:03] <sehe> Arwen: np ?
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: As dependancies are usually >=, it should work with just the deb, huh?
[10:03] <Mez> Arwen, external messages... we're checkign somethng
[10:03] <petitout> cause it doesn't work
[10:03] <sehe> petitout: Specific errors?
[10:03] <sehe> !pastebin | petitout
[10:03] <ubotu> petitout: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:03] <sammy> does anyone have any experience having apt-get build packages with debug flags?
[10:04] <Arwen> sammy, eh, kind of
[10:04] <petitout> sorry dont understand what you want me to do here
[10:04] <petitout> copy paste the whole thing somewhere else?
[10:04] <sammy> Arwen: I just want to install the same version of kopete that I've currently got installed, but with the debug flag, so I can try to figure out why the msn protocol dies silently.
[10:04] <sehe> petitout: can you give me a link to the package you are trying to install? I will try to install it on my feisty box
[10:05] <sehe> petitout: you could use the pastebin to send any (large) snippet of compiler/make output for my viewing
[10:05] <petitout> K GIVE ME A SEC
[10:05] <Arwen> sammy, try echo DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug && sudo apt-get source -b <package>
[10:05] <petitout> sorry for the caps
[10:05] <sehe> petitout: I'll be her
[10:05] <Arwen> s/echo/export
[10:05] <sehe> Arwen: ??
[10:05] <sammy> Arwen: that looks good to me. I'll let you know how it goes.
[10:05] <sammy> but I think you mean export instead of echo? :)
[10:05] <Arwen> yeah
[10:05] <Arwen> sehe, eh?
[10:06] <sehe> Arwen: never mind
[10:06] <Arwen> sammy, if it fails, you can always do it manually :-)
[10:06] <petitout> sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=flex&filename=flex-2.5.33.tar.bz2&use_mirror=superb-west
[10:06] <sammy> Arwen: I'm okay with doing it manually, I just need the source package that matches the binary package I already have installed, or the debugging will be useless
[10:06] <Arwen> apt-get source
[10:06] <petitout> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=flex&filename=flex-2.5.33.tar.bz2&use_mirror=superb-west
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> :D Now kaudiocreator reads at a reasonable speed
[10:06] <petitout> sorry
[10:07] <Arwen> or if your installed version isn't the latest, apt-get source package=version
[10:07] <jabagawee> Quick question: What is the CLI command to lock a session?
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: So where is Kubuntu's package.mask ?
[10:08] <spiroo> Hi I need help again :D
[10:08] <sehe> jabagawee: kdesktop_lock
[10:08] <spiroo> The new linux kernel just really sucks.
[10:08] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: it's the repo selection
[10:08] <sehe> !repositories | MilhousePunkRock
[10:08] <ubotu> MilhousePunkRock: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:08] <spiroo> It left no resume image to boot so I was left in the darkness :(
[10:08] <Arwen> ouch
[10:08] <sehe> spiroo: thanks for bringing that to my attention
[10:08] <jabagawee> sehe: if i type that, it'll turn the screen black
[10:09] <jabagawee> no lock
[10:09] <sehe> jabagawee: yes? i thought that's what you asked
[10:09] <spiroo> heh, No but the monitor just get black instead of blue :D
[10:09] <sehe> jabagawee: ow, that seems broken
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Everyone who tried helping out with downgrading cdparanoia here, getting the older .deb's from packages.ubuntu.com did the trick
[10:09] <venik> how do I get the mouse wheel switch to perform a BACK operation?
[10:09] <venik> I tried to find it in SystemSettings, but it is not there
[10:09] <sehe> jabagawee: you could check settings (a second....)
[10:09] <sammy> venik: in konqueror?
[10:09] <jabagawee> sehe: my lock icon on the panel works...
[10:09] <venik> no, in any browser
[10:10] <sehe> jabagawee: thanks for the backgr. weird
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> But of course, now I have the adept-notifier icon in the system area...
[10:10] <venik> I want it to be like clicking the BACK arrow of the browser
[10:10] <sehe> jabagawee: so you *knew* about kdesktop_lock? hehehe
[10:10] <spiroo> After the boot loader with kubuntu logo I just get black screen and the green light just blinks and nothing happens.
[10:10] <jabagawee> ?
[10:10] <petitout> sehe did you get the link i sent you
[10:10] <sehe> jabagawee: You *are* on KDE (just checking)?
[10:10] <jabagawee> im in KDE
[10:10] <sammy> venik: well I don't think you can do it universally, there would be a different process if you were doing it for konqueror vs say, firefox
[10:10] <sehe> petitout: fraid i missed it (went offline for 5 seconds)
[10:10] <jabagawee> i use the GUI version: the little blue lock icon
[10:10] <spiroo> I tested to repeatly press ctr+alt+f1 and got hacked into linux :D
[10:10] <petitout> k
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> venik: I think the option you are looking for is called "XF86BrowserHistoryBack" or similar
[10:11] <petitout> sehe
[10:11] <petitout> sorry
[10:11] <venik> where do I enter this?
[10:11] <spiroo> anyone has same problem as I after upgraded kernel?
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> sammy: It can be done... venik: Do a little research on "xmodmap"
[10:11] <venik> It works that way in XP
[10:11] <sehe> jabagawee: k weird, that should work. Check kcontrol for related settings, otherwise this seems a very google-friendly search
[10:11] <sehe> jabagawee:  it is certainly not normal
[10:11] <sehe> petitout: yes?
[10:12] <petitout> http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?groupname=flex&filename=flex-2.5.33.tar.bz2&use_mirror=superb-east
[10:12] <sehe> petitout: a moment :)
[10:12] <jabagawee> sorry, gaim crashed
[10:12] <spiroo> sehe: do you probably know about the problem/bug in gusty?
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> So how can I tell adept and all the package managers to ignore one specific upgrade?
[10:12] <sammy> I didn't know you could set the mouse scroll wheel to perform the same operation in *all* browsers in XP without setting it manually in each browser
[10:12] <sehe> spiroo: no sorry. arch-conservative here
[10:12] <sehe> spiroo: still on fesity
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> spiroo: Gutsy is #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <jabagawee> Anyone care to guess why kdesktop_lock won't work for me?
[10:14] <sehe> petitout: hmmm no problem here, just did '.configure; make; sudo make install' what;s the error you get
[10:14] <spiroo> MilhousePunkrock: I know, but why not here?
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> spiroo: Policy...
[10:14] <jabagawee> In a related question, what command does the blue lock button initiate? It locks the session much better than kdesktop_lock
[10:15] <petitout> I cant make
[10:15] <spiroo> okay, thanks anyway.
[10:15] <sehe> jabagawee: it should be the same action
[10:15] <sehe> petitout: the error?
[10:15] <jabagawee> closing my screen wont lock either
[10:15] <sehe> petitout: perhaps give me all the erorrs in the paste bin
[10:15] <jabagawee> even though i set it to, and it did before
[10:15] <petitout> sehe: No targets specified and no makefile found stop
[10:15] <sehe> jabagawee: closing?
[10:16] <sehe> petitout: so the configure failed
[10:16] <petitout> sehe what is paste bin
[10:16] <jabagawee> ummm
[10:16] <sehe> petitout: has configure given an error?
[10:16] <jabagawee> laptop
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> !paste | petitout
[10:16] <ubotu> petitout: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:16] <sehe> !patsebin | petitout
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patsebin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <sehe> !pastebin | petitout
[10:16] <ardchoille> petitout: Did you install build-essential ?
[10:16] <sehe> ardchoille: good call
[10:16] <petitout> GNU M4 1.4 is required
[10:16] <jabagawee> sehe: close screen as in, shut laptop lid
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: That can be set in the settings of guidance-power-manager though
[10:16] <sehe> petitout: ardchoille is spot-on
[10:16] <ardchoille> petitout: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:17] <sehe> jabagawee: of course... laptops !
[10:17] <jabagawee> milhouse: the battery icon in panel?
[10:17] <petitout> ardchoille ok i'll be right back
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: Or rather you will have to set "lock screen" at the screensaver options...
[10:17] <jabagawee> milhouse: thats where i set it to lock the session when screen closes. alas, it doesnt work.
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: Yes, I am not at my laptop now so I can't check myself
[10:17] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: it works for me on my laptops
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: Here also...
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: Dig through the screensaver options, there should be some lockage too
[10:18] <jabagawee> ummm, well.
[10:18] <jabagawee> lemme tell you what i wanna do
[10:18] <sehe> jabagawee: but it shouldnt be required to have a screensaver. I don't use screensavers. I can lock the screen (off course)
[10:18] <petitout> sehe couldn't find package build-essential
[10:18] <jabagawee> during the night, i wish to bittorrent some files
[10:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to have certain updates ignored by apt?
[10:19] <jabagawee> i cant close the lid, for the heat would gather and turn off the laptop
[10:19] <ardchoille> !info build-essential
[10:19] <jabagawee> (funny, it never did that in windows)
[10:19] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:19] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: I'm guessing the keyword is 'Pin'
[10:19] <jabagawee> so i leave the lid open
[10:19] <sehe> !pin | MilhousePunkRock
[10:19] <ubotu> MilhousePunkRock: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[10:19] <jabagawee> however, the backlight of the laptop is very strong in the pitch black
[10:20] <sehe> jabagawee: YOu could see if the keycombination ctrl-alt-l does the locking properly
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> sehe: Great, thanks... (No, I do not thank ubotu) ;)
[10:20] <sehe> MilhousePunkRock: :D:D:D
[10:20] <jabagawee> so i use "xset dmps force off"
[10:20] <jabagawee> however, its a giant security risk
[10:20] <sehe> jabagawee: yippiee one for my collection
[10:20] <jabagawee> so i want to lock the session to
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: I think the dpms setting through KControl works just as well
[10:21] <sehe> jabagawee: giant? where exactly do you live hehehe
[10:21] <jabagawee> too*
[10:21] <jabagawee> with family
[10:21] <jabagawee> extended family
[10:21] <sehe> jabagawee: no security then :D
[10:21] <jabagawee> all of whom sleep later than this 14 year old soul
[10:21] <jabagawee> (however, no one knows computers, so if i lock the session with a password, they cant touch it)
[10:21] <petitout> what does this mean:  !info build-essential
[10:22] <jabagawee> i want to make a .sh file with the commands:
[10:22] <jabagawee> kdesktop_lock
[10:22] <jabagawee> xset dpms force off
[10:22] <sehe> petitout: ?
[10:22] <jabagawee> but kdesktop_lock wont work
[10:22] <petitout> sehe yes
[10:22] <jabagawee> and i dunno how to make .sh files
[10:22] <jabagawee> (thats the end of my story)
[10:23] <sehe> petitout: what error is displayed on 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'?
[10:23] <sehe> jabagawee: .sh files are just 'runnable' text files (chmod +x script.sh)
[10:23] <petitout> sehe could'nt find package
[10:23] <jabagawee> whats the syntax in the text files
[10:23] <sehe> *what is the message*?
[10:24] <sehe> jabagawee: ow... right... man bash for starters, better google bash ;;; prepare for a lot of reading though
[10:24] <jabagawee> lol
[10:24] <petitout> sehe that"s all there is E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[10:24] <jabagawee> will my file be just two lines?
[10:24] <jabagawee> or is there stuff to add?
[10:24] <sehe> jabagawee: mainly though, you can just enter command like in the shell window, each oin a new line
[10:24] <Ben_Cs> how do i mount an iso image?
[10:24] <sehe> jabagawee:  simple enuf for your purposes
[10:24] <sehe> jabagawee:  just the two lines
[10:24] <Arwen> petitout, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list . Also try running apt-get update.
[10:25] <sehe> Ben_Cs: mount -t iso9600 -o loop ~/file.iso mountpoint
[10:25] <jabagawee> where do i save teh file
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: Why don't you just switch to tty1 instead, that will scare off anyone who does not know linux...
[10:25] <jabagawee> :P
[10:25] <jabagawee> you never know...
[10:25] <sehe> petitout: did you do apt-get update (anytime since installation)?
[10:25] <jabagawee> i perfer to have a password protecting X server
[10:25] <jabagawee> "just in case"
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: On my laptop, the screen turns off even on the cli
[10:26] <sehe> jabagawee: that would be 'sudo chvt 1' haha
[10:26] <sehe> jabagawee: save the file anywhere convenient (like in your $HOME folder)
[10:26] <jabagawee> umm
[10:26] <jabagawee> oaky
[10:26] <jabagawee> okay
[10:26] <petitout> sehe no but i'm running it under MCE (Mdia Center) andthought MCE did it all umatil
[10:27] <jabagawee> now how do i chmod it?
[10:27] <jabagawee> whats teh exact command?
[10:27] <petitout> automatically
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: man chmod ;)
[10:27] <petitout> sehe sorry cppkeyd
[10:27] <petitout> crappykeba
[10:27] <sehe> petitout: you are running ubuntu under MCE? That doesn't make sense to me
[10:27] <jabagawee> i wanna finish in this year
[10:27] <petitout> keyboard
[10:27] <sehe> petitout: np
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: If I am not mistaken, that's "sudo chmod +x file"
[10:27] <jthomas> i installed LinuxMCE on Kubuntu Feisty and it took away my kwin windowmanager, and i want it back!
[10:27] <sehe> jabagawee: chmod +x blablbal.sh
[10:28] <jabagawee> +x?
[10:28] <jabagawee> isnt it a three digit number?
[10:28] <sehe> jabagawee: optional
[10:28] <jabagawee> alright
[10:28] <ardchoille> jabagawee: If you're just making a file executable, "+x" will do it
[10:28] <jabagawee> now i chmod'ed it
[10:28] <sehe> jabagawee: in this case, it is easier to read:) The numbers are shortcuts if you want to set permissions for everyone at once
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> jabagawee: Works with numbers too, but +x (add executable) is more convenient, isn't it
[10:28] <petitout> seheIsn't MCE ovr Ubuntu?
[10:28] <jabagawee> if i type black.sh in console
[10:28] <jabagawee> it'll say
[10:28] <sehe> jabagawee: you could just click it in konq to run it now
[10:28] <jabagawee> command not found
[10:28] <Ben_Cs> sehe: mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9600'
[10:29] <jabagawee> id perfer a cli way to do it
[10:29] <sehe> jabagawee: say ./black.sh
[10:29] <jabagawee> ah
[10:29] <sehe> jabagawee: the thing is not in your path
[10:29] <ardchoille> jabagawee: sh /path/to/black.sh
[10:29] <jabagawee> it worked...with the exception of the faulty lock
[10:29] <jabagawee> and a bunch of errors
[10:30] <sehe> jabagawee:  use 'alias black=~/black.sh' for easy typing
[10:30] <sehe> jabagawee: mmmm
[10:30] <jabagawee> will the alias stick forever?
[10:30] <ardchoille> no
[10:30] <sehe> Ben_Cs: bloddy hell i keep forgetting. Try without the type (it is detected :))
[10:30] <ardchoille> jabagawee: You'll need to add the alias to ~/.bash_aliases
[10:30] <sehe> jabagawee: put it into .bashrc e.g. (text file)
[10:30] <jabagawee> ah
[10:30] <jabagawee> oh god.
[10:30] <sehe> ardchoille: better idea
[10:30] <jabagawee> now its messed up again
[10:31] <sehe> jabagawee: wottis?
[10:31] <Ben_Cs> sehe: right
[10:31] <jabagawee> my script
[10:31] <sehe> jabagawee: becos?
[10:31] <jabagawee> first it'll (attempt) to lock (theres still a backlight). then when i move the mouse, it'll perform the xset command (no backlight).
[10:32] <jabagawee> but teh mouse movement triggers an unlock
[10:32] <jabagawee> without my password, of course
[10:32] <sehe> append '&' to the first line
[10:32] <sehe> jabagawee:  append '&' to the first line
[10:32] <sehe> jabagawee: That'll make it run in the background. Otherwise, just swap the lines ;)
[10:32] <petitout> sehe GNU M4 1.4 is required (that's my errr)
[10:33] <sehe> petitout: still?
[10:33] <soulrider__> hello
[10:33] <jabagawee> beautiful.
[10:33] <sehe> jabagawee: smiles*
[10:33] <petitout> sehe yup
[10:33] <jabagawee> now, if only i could get kdesktop_lock working
[10:33] <ardchoille> jabagawee: Would you like to add that alias to ~/.bash_aliases?
[10:34] <soulrider> if aby of you guys has 5 minutes to spare, i need som testers for my program http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=531709 i would appretiate any suggestions or improvements, no matter how small
[10:34] <jabagawee> sure
[10:34] <sehe> petitout: now can you try to 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get build-essentials'
[10:34] <petitout> sehe already done
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> good night everyone!
[10:34] <sehe> petitout: for that matter 'sudo apt-get install build-essentials'
[10:34] <petitout> sehe still doesn't work
[10:34] <ardchoille> jabagawee:  echo "alias black=~/black.sh" >> ~/.bash_aliases
[10:34] <sehe> petitout: so? did it work?!
[10:34] <petitout> sehe no
[10:35] <sehe> petitout: what did not work
[10:35] <sehe> petitout: the apt-get? or the make?
[10:35] <petitout> sehe still got the gnu M4 1.4 is required
[10:35] <petitout> make
[10:35] <jabagawee> my konsole prompt turned into a greater than sign
[10:35] <sehe> petitout: did you run .configure again after 'install build-essential'?
[10:35] <petitout> yup
[10:35] <Ben_Cs> sehe: now i want to unmount the iso. i do: sudo umount ~/game, and get umount: ~/game: device is busy, although i don't use it
[10:36] <sehe> petitout: mmm. I don't know all these packages by heart. I'd have find out ... moment
[10:36] <Arwen> try with -l (this will break anything that might be using it)
[10:36] <Arwen> Ben_Cs, ^^
[10:36] <Ben_Cs> sehe: solved. thanks
[10:36] <sehe> Ben_Cs: it could be current directory, something in konq
[10:36] <Ben_Cs> you're right
[10:37] <sehe> Ben_Cs: you might use lsof | grep game next time to find out
[10:37] <Ben_Cs> ok :)
[10:38] <Ben_Cs> i wish there was a good first-person shooter for linux.
[10:38] <Arwen> There's Quake and Doom
[10:38] <jabagawee> tremulous!
[10:38] <Arwen> and UT
[10:38] <Arwen> I think Battlefield too
[10:38] <sehe> petitout: it could be as simple as 'sudo apt-get install m4'
[10:38] <sehe> petitout: turns out it uses not-so-very-common build tools?
[10:38] <jabagawee> sehe: i havent gotten the bash_aliases thing to work
[10:39] <petitout> sehe that's what i'm trying right now
[10:39] <Ben_Cs> quake and doom through wine? tremulos is ok,n not too great though
[10:39] <sehe> ardchoille: ? (--> jabagawee)
[10:39] <Arwen> Ben_Cs, not WINE, native.
[10:39] <sehe> petitout: ok !
[10:39] <Arwen> Every version of Quake and Doom has a native Linux version.
[10:39] <petitout> sehe doesn't work
[10:39] <Arwen> same with UT.
[10:39] <Ben_Cs> native? running to check in mininova.org
[10:39] <sehe> petitout: again - what is your reason for not doing 'sudo apt-get install flex' all the time
[10:40] <leon> hi... how do I unistall the older ati Drivers???
[10:40] <Arwen> Ben_Cs, no warez kthx.
[10:40] <Arwen> leon, eh? older as in..?
[10:40] <leon> no idea
[10:40] <leon> I just installed
[10:40] <petitout> sehe well i thought since it's not a system package i have to install manually
[10:41] <ardchoille> jabagawee: Once you add an alias to ~/.bash_aliases, you have to restart the konsole so it can pick up the new aliases
[10:41] <jabagawee> i did
[10:41] <ardchoille> sehe: Thanks for the hilight :)
[10:41] <jabagawee> then i did
[10:41] <sehe> petitout: define system package :) everything is package in ubuntu. There is no distinction between 'important' or 'citizen' packages
[10:41] <jabagawee> "cat .bash_aliases"
[10:41] <jabagawee> error: file .bash_aliases doesnt exist
[10:41] <sehe> petitout: You only need to bother if you actually want to change the sources yourself
[10:41] <ardchoille> jabagawee: cat ~/.bash_aliases
[10:42] <sehe> petitout: practically everything dev is available as package: boost, flex, bison, Coco, antlr etc etc
[10:42] <jabagawee> no such thing
[10:42] <jabagawee> its not there
[10:42] <sehe> jabagawee: touch .bash_aliases to create
[10:42] <ardchoille> jabagawee:  echo "alias black=~/black.sh" > ~/.bash_aliases
[10:42] <sehe> jabagawee: 'touch .bash_aliases' to create
[10:42] <petitout> sehe i'm ust trying to install all of this and  i'm new to this so i read and i try things
[10:42] <ardchoille> sehe: the redirection should have created the file
[10:42] <sehe> jabagawee: rationale:
[10:43] <sehe> '>' creates, '>>' appends
[10:43] <Ben_Cs> ok, what's the best open source (free) linux game?
[10:43] <ardchoille> sehe: Both will create the file if it doesn't exist.. at least that's what I see here.
[10:43] <naor> hi
[10:43] <petitout> sehe i tried the apt-get and i'm getting a new error
[10:43] <naor> can any one help me out here?
[10:43] <sehe> petitout: no problem. The 'package way' is by far the simplest. It will automaticcaly install dependencies
[10:43] <ardchoille> !help naor
[10:43] <sehe> petitout: tell me
[10:43] <naor> !help
[10:44] <sehe> ardchoille: uhoh then why is not being created?
[10:44] <ardchoille> Bah, the bot's gone
[10:44] <ardchoille> sehe: No idea
[10:44] <jabagawee> anyone wanna diagnose my kdesktop_lock problem?
[10:44] <naor> im having a problem when shuting down
[10:45] <petitout> sehe E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:45] <naor> it doesnt shutdown
[10:45] <tsarev> ps -ax | grep apt;
[10:45] <yeniklasorr> Do you know any application or plugin that working with shoutcast and has playback feature (to be a dj) ?
[10:45] <tsarev> dpkg or apt or adept or synaptic lock your databse
[10:45] <ardchoille> sehe:  http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/39141
[10:45] <tsarev> ps -ax | grep application_name; and kill her
[10:46] <petitout> sehe how do i install a package that i downloaded off the net then?
[10:46] <Arwen> yeniklasorr, in English please. I don't understand what you're trying to do. Do you want to broadcast over shoutcast? Or do you want to play shoutcast streams?
[10:46] <jabagawee> petitout: right click it
[10:46] <petitout> sehe yep
[10:46] <jabagawee> there'll be an option
[10:46] <jabagawee> petitout: or do a "man dkpg"
[10:48] <petitout> sehe i know how to unpack it, It's the installing part i'm kindda lost with
[10:48] <sehe> *** GRRRR bloody freezing keyboards in kde ***
[10:48] <sehe> petitout: you must not unpack .debs
[10:48] <yeniklasorr> Arwen : As I said, I want broadcast to a shoutcast server, but that must have a playback feature
[10:48] <ardchoille> petitout: Which app is it?
[10:48] <Arwen> You did *not* say that. Have you tried icecast?
[10:48] <sehe> petitout: if you got that error (1) make sure you are root (2) no other package managemtn program running (locking!)
[10:49] <sehe> !apt | petitout
[10:49] <Arwen> ubotu is dead
[10:49] <sehe> petitout: ok then just RTFM :D:D:D:D
[10:49] <sehe> ardchoille: petitout is trying to compile/install stuff. New to apt, trying to compile flex
[10:49] <petitout> sehe i have no idea what that means
[10:50] <sehe> petitout: probably for the best :D
[10:50] <ardchoille> petitout: It means Read The Fine Manual ;)
[10:50] <sehe> petitout: google RTFM ...
[10:50] <jabagawee> XD
[10:50] <petitout> sehe k
[10:50] <sehe> ardchoille: show me your google url
[10:50] <ardchoille> sehe: huh?
[10:50] <ardchoille> I don't have a google url
[10:50] <sehe> petitout: i mean, take some time to get to know the debian package managemtn system. it is really flexible and pretty simple
[10:51] <ardchoille> as well as powerful
[10:51] <sehe> petitout: but don't expect to run away with it if you don't have the patience
[10:51] <jabagawee> *sniff* ive been abandoned.
[10:51] <sehe> ardchoille: that is an unfamiliar translation of RTFM :D
[10:51] <yeniklasorr> Arwen : icecast not have a playback, and not working fine too
[10:51] <sehe> jabagawee: *sniff* poor you
[10:51] <petitout> sehe Believe me that's what i'm trying to do it's just a little overwhelming
[10:51] <jabagawee> :D
[10:51] <sehe> petitout: ok - heads up :D
[10:52] <ardchoille> petitout: apt-cache search flex | more
[10:52] <Arwen> yeniklasorr, try speaking in proper English. And if icecast doesn't work for you, you have no more options.
[10:52] <ardchoille> petitout: Is that the same one in the repos?
[10:52] <ardchoille> petitout: apt-cache search --names-only flex
[10:52] <yeniklasorr> Arwen : What is your problem with my English? And I have lots of options too ;)
[10:52] <sehe> petitout: it lists the version if you use synaptic (that's what i use). I suspect all tools can list the current version of a package in  the repo
[10:53] <jabagawee> im just guessing...but, does the fact that im running vlc and gaim hindering the kdesktop_lock?
[10:53] <sehe> petitout: Further more flex is pretty stable so not many releases - proabbly same version
[10:53] <Arwen> What's wrong with your English? It makes no grammatical sense.
[10:53] <sehe> jabagawee: nah
[10:53] <jabagawee> hmm
[10:53] <Arwen> jabagawee, if VLC is playing something, it will disable screensavers. Other than that, not really.
[10:53] <jabagawee> ugh
[10:53] <jabagawee> why wont it work!
[10:53] <yeniklasorr> Arwen : Is here a language room ?
[10:53] <jabagawee> im so angry
[10:53] <jabagawee> :D
[10:53] <jabagawee> in a happy way
[10:54] <sehe> Arwen: ? me ? I'm trying to be fast and efficient. Do you reckon I'm typing too messy now?
[10:54] <Arwen> sehe, no, not you. yeniklasorr.
[10:54] <jthomas> Arwen: really, s/he speaks English probably better than you speak his/hers
[10:54] <sehe> yeniklasorr: yes there are. what language?
[10:54] <ardchoille> sehe: Not a chance.. I'm the king of typo's, lol
[10:54] <sehe> ardchoille: hehe
[10:54] <Arwen> yeniklasorr, if we can't understand you, it's hard to help. If English is not your native language, there might be a channel for your native language.
[10:55] <sehe> yeniklasorr: the one hundred dollar question is: WHICH language?
[10:55] <petitout> sehe thx mate i'll try to figure out the problem and come back when i've got more details
[10:55] <sehe> #kubuntu-es, #kubuntu-de #kubuntu-fr etc
[10:55] <sehe> petitout: good luck fellow!
[10:55] <pollyo> Are we to use the Kings English here?
[10:56] <pollyo> Or is this American English?
[10:56] <sehe> Cockney, if you please
[10:56] <petitout> sehe thx gonna need it
[10:56] <pollyo> Or Canadian English?
[10:56] <yeniklasorr> sehe :not funny, Arwen : I said from top I'm looking for a application to be a DJ (is it making sense to you, I want streaming or listening to a shoutcast server)
[10:56] <sehe> pollyo: Canadien french, sil-te-plait
[10:56] <ardchoille> sehe: Cockney? Were you born within earshot of the bells?
[10:57] <pollyo> sehe: <grin>
[10:57] <sehe> ardchoille: no by far
[10:57] <Arwen> yeniklasorr, I'm not aware of a program like that. My suggestion would be to chain a playback/filtering program to icecast.
[10:57] <yeniklasorr> Arwen : ok ;)
[10:57] <Arwen> and yes, your English is not very good (just a hint).
[10:58] <yeniklasorr> not very but good :P
[11:00] <yeniklasorr> I want to be a dj with ubuntu :$ :P
[11:01] <dustin> so, i'm trying to burn a CD using Serpentine, but it gives me a message saying "please insert writable or blank disk" even though there is a blank disk in the drive. any clues?
[11:01] <sehe> dustin: media not suitable for drive?
[11:01] <acemo> how can i install SDL, SDL_ttf and SDL_mixer libraries?
[11:01] <sehe> dustin: drive not detected as writer?
[11:01] <sparrw> after i 'apt-get source' a package and apply a patch, how do i build it as a package?
[11:01] <nickpresta_> Is there a reason why `kdesu` no longer prompts for me for a password and does not open the application?
[11:01] <dustin> Hmmm.... how can i get the drive detected?
[11:01] <sparrw> nickpresta_: you might not have permission to sudo that application?
[11:02] <dustin> as a writer, anyways
[11:02] <sehe> acemo: apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all
[11:02] <nickpresta_> sparrw, no, it worked 30 seconds ago. Then my power went out and I had to restart and now kdesu doesn't work
[11:03] <sparrw> are you sure the application works?
[11:03] <sparrw> try running it as root directly
[11:03] <sparrw> or sudo'ing it from a console
[11:03] <sehe> dustin: you'd think it would be... i use k3b for all my burning needs, so I can't help with Serpentine
[11:03] <nickpresta_> sparrw, it works with sudo. no applicatino works with kdesu
[11:03] <sparrw> very interesting
[11:03] <dustin> i can't get k3b to burn mp3's
[11:03] <sparrw> and beyond me, sorry
[11:03] <dustin> how can i get k3b to burn mp3's?
[11:03] <sehe> nickpresta_:  i've had a intermittent failure of kdesu once or twice. A re-logon always helped
[11:03] <zabivator> What? lol
[11:03] <Arwen> dustin, install libk3b2-mp3
[11:03] <sehe> NickPresta: long time ago thoug
[11:04] <jhutchins_wk> nickpresta_: Telling us it doesn't work leaves us guessing what is actually happening.  Tell us what _does_ happen
[11:04] <jhutchins_wk> nickpresta_: Try kdesu from a console if necessary.
[11:04] <zabivator> mp3 - it's files, k3b it's not depend from mp3
[11:04] <acemo> this game says requires SDL, SDL_ttf and SDL_mixer libraries installed, when i try to run it, im getting this error: pygame.error: Couldn't find matching GLX visual, what can i do to try to fix it?
[11:04] <sehe> dustin: i'd say, just start it. the gui is very simple
[11:05] <jhutchins_wk> dustin: Do the mp3's play?
[11:05] <sehe> dustin: ok my bad, i guess you tried already
[11:05] <dustin> the mp3's do play.
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> this stinks
[11:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> no direct rendering :\
[11:05] <sehe> jhutchins: should that even matter?!
[11:05] <jhutchins_wk> dustin: Are you setting it up as a data CD or a music CD?
[11:05] <dustin> music CD
[11:05] <sehe> Daisuke_Laptop: and hi to you too
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> sehe: you get used to me entering like that
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> i'm here a lot
[11:06] <sehe> Daisuke_Laptop: i'm sure i will :D
[11:06] <jhutchins_wk> dustin: I thought that k3b was able to convert them on the fly, but music CD files have to be in .wav format.
[11:06] <dustin> a problem i have with k3b is it won't open, which is why i am using a different burner
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> mostly to hang out, sometimes to provide help, sometimes (like now) to get help
[11:06] <jhutchins_wk> dustin: You might have to convert them manually.
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> lib2k3b-mp3 i believe
[11:06] <Arwen> dustin, are you intentionally ignoring me? k3b mp3 support is in the package libk3b2-mp3
[11:06] <sehe> jhutchins: gasp indeed - i'd have thought so to.
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> jhutchins_wk: ^^
[11:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was close
[11:07] <Arwen> jhutchins_wk, read ^^
[11:07] <dustin> the proccess table show k3b as being open, and when i try to kill the process it won't go away
[11:07] <sehe> dustin: after doing...?
[11:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> anyway, xserver-xorg-video-intel doesn't provide direct rendering?
[11:07] <jhutchins_wk> !info lib2k3b-mp3
[11:07] <ubotu> Package lib2k3b-mp3 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:07] <dustin> after opening k3b
[11:07] <sehe> dustin: i mean : is that a problem?
[11:07] <Arwen> Daisuke_Laptop, it does. On Intel chips.
[11:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> !info libk3b2-mp3
[11:07] <dustin> that k3b won't open? i assume so.
[11:07] <jhutchins_wk> !info libk3b2-mp3
[11:07] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[11:07] <sehe> !kill | dustin
[11:07] <ubotu> dustin: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> Arwen: well i have an intel chip
[11:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> and it isn't.
[11:08] <dustin> serpentine works fine but it seems my CD-R drive isn't working.
[11:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> trying to figure that out
[11:08] <Arwen> Daisuke_Laptop, paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:08] <los> \busy
[11:08] <los> gn
[11:08] <NickPresta> okay, back in my name...
[11:09] <jabagawee> /disco
[11:09] <jabagawee> /disc
[11:09] <jabagawee> dang...
[11:09] <dustin> so any clue on how to get my CD-R drive working?
[11:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39142
[11:10] <jhutchins_wk> You'd have to tell us what's happening with it.  "not working" does not give us any information.  If you posted it before, I missed it.
[11:11] <dustin> well, i know that the system is recognizing it. i think it even recognizes it as a writable device. when i try to burn a CD, however, it says there is not a blank CD in the drive, even though there is.
[11:11] <frojnd> omg!! I accidentally run usbmgr and this program removed several programs including try to trash my kernel :S How can I restore all these programs. And where can I see the list of what this program has done, since I can't scroll up in konzole. PLEASE URGENT
[11:12] <sehe> dustin: can you check that the drive is detected as a WRITER in 'sudo lshw' output?
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> nothing's that urgent.  nothing happens that can't be fixed.  unless your computer is literally ON FIRE, you're probably okay
[11:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> and i shall return momentarily
[11:13] <dustin> yes it is detected as a writer
[11:13] <Arwen> Daisuke_Laptop, looks like dri isn't loading right. Not sure what you can do about it though.
[11:13] <sehe> frojnd: it should only unload things, not delete, please acknowledge?
[11:13] <sehe> dustin: good then it is probably down to media - do you have different brands?
[11:13] <frojnd> sehe? oh ok
[11:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> Arwen: pray to the gods?
[11:13] <dustin> should i try burning a different file format?
[11:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's a big ten-four good buddy
[11:13] <frojnd> sehe: but if I sudo apt-get -f install will this repair things ?
[11:13] <sehe> frojnd: you could reload modules using 'modprobe' or 'insmod' (as root)
[11:14] <sehe> frojnd: I'm going to be very cautious, but i don't think you should need to install anything. Reboot?
[11:14] <sehe> frojnd: WAIT
[11:14] <sehe> frojnd: before you do, please confirm what you did with usbmgr
[11:14] <ikichi> hi
[11:15] <dustin> I just tried burning a WAV file and it gives me the same "please insert a blank disk" message
[11:15] <frojnd> sehe: when It asks me at the beginning I choses yes
[11:15] <sehe> FROJND: frojnd: I see. You didn't *RUN* it, but you tried to *install* it
[11:15] <frojnd> sehe: yes...
[11:15] <sehe> frojnd: BIG Problem. Don't reboot
[11:15] <frojnd> sehe: I won't
[11:15] <frojnd> sehe: I'm not that big
[11:15] <sehe> frojnd: good..
[11:16] <sehe> jhutchins: any experience fixing systems which accidentally removed many pakcages?
[11:16] <frojnd> sehe: I'm currently running ap-get -f install  And it loads my kernes..
[11:16] <SeanTater> dustin: have you tried a few different CD's (sometimes one or two can be bad)
[11:16] <kwame_> tomcat help needed
[11:16] <frojnd> kernel
[11:16] <magicalmoose> hey, guys? uh. i just restarted my computer and my resolution is permantently set at 640X480 60Hz, and when I go into display monitor settings, that resolution is the only one available. Before the reboot, I was running at an easy 1280x1024 60Hz. Can anyone help me?
[11:16] <dustin> i have tried about 5 CD's
[11:16] <SeanTater> dustin: the filesystem might matter in reading, but probably not in writing.
[11:16] <sehe> magicalmoose: was that on the live CD (before boot?) or same system?
[11:17] <magicalmoose> same system
[11:17] <sehe> dustin: i hate it when that happens
[11:17] <dustin> SeanTater: is it possible my CD-R drive is just messed up and old?
[11:17] <magicalmoose> sehe: it was the same system.
[11:17] <SeanTater> dustin: how old is it?
[11:17] <sehe> kwame_: installing? or running/ programming
[11:17] <dustin> i suppose about as old as Windows XP, as I purchased this computer about when the OS came out
[11:18] <dustin> maybe older. i am unsure
[11:18] <sehe> magicalmoose: any chance you cahnged X settings? Look in /etc/X11 to see whether there is a recent backup of Xorg.conf that you can try instead
[11:18] <SeanTater> dustin: My DVD drive seems to be dying and it's only about 3 years old, but I also have a CD drive about 10 years that works like a charm so it could be
[11:18] <jhutchins_wk> sehe: If it was "many packages", I would probably go for a full reinstall.  Were they part of a metapackage like kubuntu-desktop?
[11:18] <magicalmoose> sehe: will do, give me a minute for feedback
[11:18] <jhutchins_wk> sehe: You could try reinstalling that, and it should pull a bunch of dependencies if they're missing.
[11:18] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: not my system, i was responding to frojn who had an apt accident
[11:19] <frojnd> sehe: its frojnd
[11:19] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: i have no experience fixing that kind of 'mess'
[11:19] <sehe> frojnd: thx
[11:19] <frojnd> :S
[11:19] <SeanTater> dustin: can you mount a CD?
[11:19] <dustin> SeanTater: how do i do that?
[11:19] <SeanTater> dustin: as in -- read from it?
[11:19] <dustin> Let me try real quick
[11:20] <magicalmoose> sehe: okay, I found the cfg file you told me about, how do i try it?
[11:20] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: Did the usbmanager install a different kernel?
[11:20] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: not yet
[11:20] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: usbmgr caused the trouble. I can see it pulls out all of ubuntu on my system :D
[11:20] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: it was in a phase of removing
[11:20] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: ...and you killed it?
[11:20] <sehe> magicalmoose: just *save* xorg.conf somewhere first
[11:21] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: yes..
[11:21] <magicalmoose> sehe: okay, then what?
[11:21] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: but it was allready removing my kernel
[11:21] <sehe> magicalmoose: then copy the most promising backup (probably the most recent) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:21] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: amarok allready and stuff like that
[11:21] <frojnd> mud etc
[11:21] <dustin> SeanTater: apparently I can't read from the drive, thus causing me confusion!
[11:21] <sehe> magicalmoose: then 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[11:22] <magicalmoose> sehe: okay, one sec
[11:22] <SeanTater> dustin: open a terminal, type in eject -v ; then press enter. tell me any important lines
[11:23] <dustin> this drive is the second of 2 drives, if that makes a difference in your instructions
[11:23] <SeanTater> dustin: it certainly does: replace the command with the following:  eject 0v /dev/hdd
 frojnd: ...and you killed it? if ctrl +c kills a procces than yes
[11:23] <sehe> dustin: something liek eject -d 1 -v
[11:23] <SeanTater> dustin: oops
[11:23] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: I really don't know why usbmanager would do that; I don't know why apt would _remove_ files.
[11:23] <SeanTater> dustin: it certainly does: replace the command with the following:  eject -v /dev/hdd
[11:23] <sehe> dustin: forget my remakr
[11:24] <dustin> SeanTater: I get this message: eject: too many arguments
[11:24] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: From what you say, I would back up anything you want to keep (not software) and just do a new install.
[11:24] <sehe> frojnd: conflicting dependencies
[11:24] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: apt-get is fixing packagess (now kernel as we speak) since usbmanager I don't know delete it ?
[11:24] <SeanTater> dustin: okay - then just try eject /dev/hdd
[11:24] <frojnd> sehe: how can I install those dependencies?
[11:24] <dustin> SeanTater: The drive ejected
[11:25] <SeanTater> dustin: good..
[11:25] <frojnd> ffs, i'm doomed
[11:25] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: Can't tell you on that.  Doesn' tmake any sense.
[11:25] <kwame_> deploying a web app with mysql
[11:25] <SeanTater> dustin: doing eject -t /dev/hdd should put it back
[11:25] <sehe> frojnd: i'm afraid you can't (unless you manually saved a package list with dselect before. I bet you haven't like most of us)
[11:25] <frojnd> sehe: well.. is there any log of what's going on in terminal?
[11:25] <dustin> SeanTater: That indeed put the drive back in
[11:26] <frojnd> sehe: than I could see what it allready removed..
[11:26] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: Did this happen when you installed usbmanager, or when you ran it?
[11:26] <sehe> kwame_: probably offtopic... try a channel on java, tomcat, apache forums
[11:26] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: installing :D:D:D
[11:26] <kwame_> ok
[11:26] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: when I typed sudo apt-get install usbmanager a blue screen appeared and ask me smth
[11:26] <sehe> kwame_: good luck
[11:26] <SeanTater> dustin: Does the following command tell you anything about your cd drive?: lshw | grep -C3 cdrom
[11:27] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: I chose Yes couse this should preven all my software... but it was still doing smth with it..
[11:27] <frojnd> jhutchins_wk: u can try for yourself ;)
[11:27] <jhutchins_wk> !info usbmanager
[11:27] <ubotu> Package usbmanager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:27] <sehe> frojnd: installing 'usbmgr' on my system would clobber all of my isntall as well
[11:27] <dustin> SeanTater: yes
[11:28] <_aaa> so, is it impossible to get music to my MP3 without a credit card or debit card?
[11:28] <dustin> SeanTater: would you like for me to paste the information?
[11:28] <SeanTater> dustin: no --
[11:28] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: frojnd: i think usbmgr conflicts with udev, which is default to the ubuntu core install
[11:29] <jhutchins_wk> Wow, that's quite a list.
[11:29] <sehe> !offtopic | _aaa
[11:29] <ubotu> _aaa: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:29] <frojnd> sehe: udev is on a list for fixing with apt (as we speak)
[11:29] <_aaa> okay
[11:29] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: not a pretty sight.
[11:29] <SeanTater> dustin: maybe you could reload the kernel module (I don't know much else you could do): sudo rmmod cdrom ; sudo modprobe cdrom
[11:29] <elite101> hello
[11:30] <jhutchins_wk> I think I'd either remove usbmgr, or just leave it alone.  Let me see what info I can find on this.
[11:30] <jhutchins_wk> !info usbmgr
[11:30] <frojnd> The following NEW packages will beinstalled:initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic udev volumeid
[11:30] <ubotu> usbmgr: user-mode daemon which loads/unloads USB kernel modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 240 kB
[11:30] <sehe> frojnd: not bad. that looks promising. I'd say, apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-desktop should restore the essentials
[11:31] <frojnd> sehe: * install ubuntu-minimal (even if I have kubuntu)
[11:31] <sehe> frojnd: I think, since you want to 'undo' the damage, it is ok to reinstall udev
[11:31] <sehe> frojnd: yes ubuntu-minimal is core of kubuntu as well
[11:31] <frojnd> sehe: so when I install udev.. everything will be as it was
[11:31] <SeanTater> dustin: It's probably going to be worth your time just to buy a new one, if you know hoe to reinstall it
[11:31] <sehe> frojnd: not sure bout ubuntu-desktop though
[11:31] <SeanTater>  /hoe/how
[11:32] <sehe> frojnd: i didn't say that:D
[11:32] <frojnd> sehe: u should :)
[11:32] <dustin> SeanTater: you're probably right.
[11:32] <sehe> frojnd: i said 'ubuntu-minimal' should restore enough of a running system to allow rebooting.
[11:32] <jhutchins_wk> sehe: I think I would avoid ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop if you want kubuntu.
[11:33] <dustin> SeanTater: the command says the module cdrom is in use by the ide_cd, i think its the non-writiable CD rom, i can't find anything that is using it though, but it won't eject, even from the konsole
[11:33] <frojnd> I wanna kubuntu..
[11:33] <dustin> SeanTater: i'm going to restart and try the command
[11:33] <jhutchins_wk> frojnd: so what's the question?
[11:33] <sehe> frojnd: unless you find that log and scan it, you'll never know exactly what went haywire, and to make matters worse, some packages are only 'meta-packages' so merely fixing all the 'concrete' packages, doesn't repair the meta-package selection
[11:33] <SeanTater> dustin: that makes sense
[11:33] <SeanTater> dustin: I think I gave you the wrong command
[11:34] <sehe> frojnd: I'd say - for fun: try to fix the system. For real: backup + reinstall.
[11:34] <frojnd> sehe: that sux
[11:34] <dustin> SeanTater: what would be the right command?
[11:34] <frojnd> sehe: if that's so I will never reboot my system ever again..
[11:34] <SeanTater> dustin: Try this: sudo rmmod ide_cd; sudo rmmod cdrom; sudo modprobe cdrom; sudo modprobe ide_cd
[11:34] <sehe> frojnd: put a brake on your index finger :D
[11:34] <frojnd> now.. who want to   competit in uptime :D
[11:34] <SeanTater> dustin: better
[11:35] <SeanTater> :-S
[11:35] <sehe> frojnd: or keep daily backups... that's my insurance against 'clickety click' accident
[11:35] <sehe> magicalmoose: so sorry I should have warned you :_
[11:35] <sehe> magicalmoose: so sorry I should have warned you :_
[11:35] <magicalmoose> warned me about what?
[11:36] <sehe> magicalmoose: /etc/init.d/kdm restart would kill your running X
[11:36] <sehe> magicalmoose: welcome back
[11:36] <frojnd> sehe... well backups aren't problem.. I have for / just 7gbs everything else is on media..
[11:36] <dustin> SeanTater: I'm going to restart real quick and try.
[11:36] <SeanTater> dustin: okay
[11:36] <sehe> frojnd: look into rsync or rdiff-bacup (with Keep!) for good pointers
[11:36] <sehe> !keep
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <sehe> !rsync
[11:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:37] <magicalmoose> ha, okay, well it just crashed for some reason, didn't wanna restart, so i rebooted and it's all still bad resolution,
[11:37] <SeanTater> !info keep
[11:37] <ubotu> keep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 202 kB, installed size 1156 kB
[11:37] <magicalmoose> sebe: ha, okay, well it just crashed for some reason, didn't wanna restart, so i rebooted and it's all still bad resolution,
[11:37] <sehe> SeanTater: well what d'ya LOL
[11:37] <magicalmoose> ha
[11:37] <sehe> magicalmoose: sorry to hear that
[11:37] <magicalmoose> yeah. try to explain it again?
[11:38] <sehe> magicalmoose: instead of figuring out the cause of change, i'd now say:
[11:38] <sehe> !resolution | magicalmoose
[11:38] <ubotu> magicalmoose: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:38] <magicalmoose> ubotu: thanks ill try that
[11:38] <sehe> sehe : wink **
[11:39] <magicalmoose> im sorry, sehe, i dont understand, im kinda new to linux and all, i dont understand what !resolution is
[11:39] <sehe> frojnd: better to start out with a clean system if you're gonna do  backups daily
[11:39] <jhutchins_wk> !bot
[11:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <sehe> magicalmoose: np!
[11:40] <sehe> jhutchins ty
[11:40] <soulrider> hello
[11:42] <Karti> sehe: Hi all, can I ask you to take a look at a code error if you have some time?
[11:42] <sehe> Karti: you could certainly try
[11:43] <Karti> its the backup file that you helped on the other day ;)
[11:43] <sehe> Karti: oh no
[11:43] <kilrae> [17:07]  <genius551v> kilrae > ok man, tnks
[11:43] <kilrae> [17:13]  <genius551v> how i get the comboBox?
[11:43] <kilrae> [17:14]  <genius551v> editor comboBox?
[11:43] <kilrae> [17:14]  <genius551v> var editor = grid.getColumnModel().getCellEditor(colIndex, rowIndex);
[11:43] <kilrae> [17:14]  <genius551v> ???
[11:43] <kilrae> [17:14]  <genius551v> i need get a comboBox
[11:44] <kilrae> whoops
[11:44] <dustin> SeanTater: the command gives me errors saying the module IDE_CD is in use, and the module cdrom is in use by the ide_cd. Also, neither of my cd drives will eject now. I am very confused.
[11:44] <kilrae> that was meant for offtopic
[11:44] <sehe> ...
[11:44] <sehe> ..
[11:44] <sehe> .
[11:44] <sehe> Karti: ?
[11:44] <sehe> !ask | Karti
[11:44] <ubotu> Karti: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:45] <Karti> sehe: Sorry just pasting it to here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34824/
[11:45] <sehe> ic
[11:45] <Karti> am I that slow :(
[11:46] <sehe> Karti: where does $day come from?
[11:46] <jhutchins_wk> sehe: Is that perhaps a bash script without a magic number?
[11:46] <Karti> It is the weekly backup day that it checks for
[11:46] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: excerpt
[11:46] <Karti> jhutchins_wk: are you jhutchins at work?
[11:46] <jhutchins_wk> If it's a bash script, and it doesn't start with #!/bin/bash, that could be the problem.
[11:47] <jhutchins_wk> Karti: Indeed.
[11:47] <Karti> jhutchins: ahh....that is only the bit of script that fails
[11:47] <sehe> jhutchins: it is a fragment (exceprt)
[11:47] <jhutchins_wk> Actually on my kubuntu box!
[11:47] <sehe> jhutchins:D
[11:47] <Karti> jhutchins: I see said the blind man
[11:47] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: My work *is* on a kubuntu box (multiple as a matter of fact :D)
[11:48] <jhutchins_wk> Waiting for new installs of Norton to finish their scans on the XP boxen.
[11:48] <sehe> FUN
[11:48] <Karti> I moved to AVG the paid internet suite myself
[11:48] <jhutchins_wk> This place is five XP's, an old NT Phone server, and Gentoo 2.4 on the firewall and fileserver.
[11:49] <Karti> saved myself thousands lol
[11:49] <jhutchins_wk> Norton was rated pretty good at this summer's blackhat.
[11:49] <Karti> I got 5 licences for 2 years for about ?100
[11:49] <jhutchins_wk> The fileserver uses clam.
[11:49] <Karti> which covered all my PCs and laptops
[11:49] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: I never used virus-scanners... Back in 1986 i did because it was mucho fun and scary :D
[11:49] <sehe> jhutchins_wk: only once though
[11:50] <jhutchins_wk> These XP's got hit pretty bad when I first started here.  They still aren't quite right, but I can't do clean installs because we can't account for all the software.
[11:50] <Karti> :) Sorry is this Friends Re-United or Script Helpers are Us? ;)
[11:51] <sehe> KArti: my brain is shutting down, and i'm mixing far too many languages (I program for a living). It might be you need ';' before 'then'. That looks ood tho...
[11:51] <sehe> Karti: Could also be $day is not valid. YOu might do an 'echo $day' just to check
[11:51] <sehe> Karti: point taken (i was thinking the same myself :D))
[11:51] <Karti> sehe: I am sure it worked before but I don't rememneber changing it
[11:52] <sehe> Karti: then look at versioning :D haha
[11:52] <Karti> sehe: I was only jesting...sometimes this channel can get serious
[11:52] <sehe> !info subversion | KArti
[11:52] <ubotu> karti: subversion: Advanced version control system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3dfsg1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 3392 kB
[11:52] <Berzerker> whenever I try to sudo something, I get an error "timestamp too far in future"
[11:52] <sehe> Karti: it is worth it. Very simple.
[11:52] <sehe> Berzerker: what;s the system time?
[11:52] <Berzerker> 17:52
[11:52] <Berzerker> 2007-8-23
[11:52] <sehe> Berzerker: what;s the system time? And date i meant
[11:52] <Berzerker> uhm
[11:52] <sehe> Berzerker: looks healthy
[11:53] <ardchoille> Berzerker: Type: date
[11:53] <Berzerker> Thu Aug 23 17:53:04 EDT 2007
[11:53] <sehe> ardchoille: i trusted the response...
[11:54] <sehe> Berzerker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3159544
[11:55] <sehe> Berzerker: 'sudo -K will kill the stored timestamp, allowing you to use sudo again'
[11:55] <Arwen> lowercase K
[11:55] <Arwen> lowercase k*
[11:55] <Berzerker> it won't let me sudo
[11:55] <Berzerker> lol
[11:55] <Berzerker> it won't let me sudo anything
[11:55] <sehe> Arwen: indeed ty Berzerker: sudo -k will kill the stored timestamp, allowing you to use sudo again
[11:56] <Berzerker> sudo -k
[11:56] <Berzerker> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Aug 23 21:47:27 2007
[11:56] <sehe> Berzerker: tried 'sudo -k' ?????
[11:56] <Karti> sehe: jhutchins: you won't believe what the error was
[11:56] <sehe> Karti: do tell
[11:56] <sehe> Berzerker: ughhh ouch :D
[11:56] <Karti> I placed "Then" on a new line!
[11:57] <Karti> and it worked1
[11:57] <Karti> worked ! even
[11:57] <Berzerker> won't work
[11:57] <sehe> Karti: by definition this means that adding the ';' before 'then' would have worked exactly the same
[11:57] <sehe> thank you very much
[11:57] <Karti> Just trying that now
[11:58] <sehe> Karti: it is equivalent. 'newline' [11:58] <sehe> (except in quoted constructs)
[11:58] <Berzerker> still doesn't work
[11:58] <Karti> yes in kate it changed to bold
[11:58] <Karti> with the ;
[11:58] <sehe> Berzerker: i'm out of options. Anyone?
[11:58] <sehe> Karti: smart girl, this Kate
[11:59] <Riddell> ** tribe 5 out
[11:59] <Karti> lol however I think I will leave it on the second line, as it looks better to me (understand it then!)
[12:00] <Berzerker> I got it
[12:00] <Berzerker> I just kept doig it
[12:00] <Berzerker> and it got it eventually
[12:00] <sehe> Berzerker: phew
[12:01] <Berzerker> now my wifi won't work
[12:01] <sehe> . night night peeps - see ya next time on the muppet show
[12:01] <Berzerker> doesn't show up in ifconfig
[12:01] <sehe> Berzerker: ooo there 's a subject.
[12:01] <sehe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[12:02] <sehe> Berzerker: ^^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[12:03] <sehe> Berzerker: alternatively google 'ubuntu wifi'
[12:03] <sehe> bye bye
[12:06] <Karti> jhutchins: many thanks
[12:16] <alex_> hello
[12:17] <alex_> Needing help
[12:19] <tomyzecat> hi
[12:30] <josiah> what directory does thunderbird install to?
[12:30] <cyril_> Hello
[12:31] <Ange|us> hello, i downloaded a kernel from kernel.org and compiled it myself and copied the bZimage to the boot directory and configured grub, but when i tried to boot after the kernel image got decompressed it gave me some error like VFS: unable to open root device unknow block something
[12:31] <Ange|us> :/
[12:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> install to?  probably /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[12:32] <Ange|us> any help pls ?
[12:32] <josiah> ty
[12:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> Ange|us: custom kernels aren't recommended, but in the event you feel you need one, google is probably your best friend