=== tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === albert23 [n=albert@86.81.99.204] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 === chibiace [n=chibiace@60-234-208-56.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:00] :) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ed_ [n=chatzill@81-178-70-193.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:03] there have been packages being updated in the gutsy repos right? my package manager is saying there are 0 updates === angasule [n=angasule@190.49.243.83] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] [02:03] chibiace: yes [02:04] i'll have a look on launchpad [02:04] chibiace: what does uname -r output === Instabin [n=instabin@oh-76-5-123-160.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ito [n=chatzill@81-178-70-193.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ito [n=chatzill@81-178-70-193.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === eobanb [n=eoban@149-159-108-118.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Kousotu [i=Invincib@adsl-68-20-14-116.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:14] gnomefreak: im using .22-9 generic [02:15] anyone knowhow to remove a touchpad? (ie make it never work again on Ubuntu) [02:15] Kousotu: removing it from xorg.conf? === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:15] I did [02:15] blacklist the module? [02:15] the entire section is gone [02:16] I don;t know how to [02:16] and I'm on windowsright now [02:16] lol === pucca [n=pucca@cpc1-lewi7-0-0-cust883.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:16] hi everyone [02:16] my ext3 driver isn't working :( [02:16] pucca! [02:17] hey [02:17] hello [02:17] Kousotu hi there...having problems with ubuntu :o... [02:18] Does somebody knows if Gutsy Tribe 5cd is available for download? [02:19] chibiace: you dont have the latest kernel it looks like [02:19] pucca: not yet I don't think... soon though [02:19] gnomefreak: and it cant find any updates. i know [02:20] chibiace: try a different mirror like gb.archive.ubuntu..... [02:20] gb seems to be up to date afaict [02:20] brb [02:20] nosrednaekim humn...what a shame...as it is supposed to be out on the 23rd (today), I thought i'd start downloading from now...lol [02:20] well... I know the Kubuntu one isn't... maybe the Ubuntu one is.. [02:21] having some mad problems with compiz fusion in gutsy gibbon [02:21] nosrednaekim is there a website I can go to check if its available, cause, googling gives back way too many links [02:22] dunno.. I check the kubuntu front page. === iblicf_ [n=iblicf@125.34.30.163] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Falstiu1 [n=jeff@c-71-227-120-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Falstiu1 [n=jeff@c-71-227-120-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [02:26] pucca: just a minor one [02:26] pucca: the one I hte most, touchpa [02:26] chibiace: how do I blacklist it? my ext3 wants to work today [02:28] Kousotu: do you know what the touchpad module is called? you put that in a file, should be in /etc somewhere with blacklist in the name i think [02:28] gnomefreak: yes a mirror problem [02:28] gnomefreak: excellent [02:28] :) [02:28] chibiace: I don't know what its called [02:29] chibiace: lemme boot up fedora and get the name [02:29] Kousotu: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [02:29] Kousotu: sounds dodgy that the touchpad would stuff up your ext3 driver which should be in the kernel [02:30] ? [02:30] chibiace: I'm on WINDOWS [02:30] lol [02:30] uh perhaps there is another issue? [02:30] the windows driver for ext3doesn't alays work [02:31] no, it's just the touchpad, I want it disabled [02:31] I hate touchpads [02:31] lol [02:31] oh lol [02:31] Kousotu: is there a button on your laptop for it? like fn+ something? [02:31] no... === _emet_ [n=emet@unaffiliated/emet] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:32] I would have found that by now :( [02:32] oh..k [02:32] Kousotu: you could always physically remove it [02:33] Im not opening up my laptop [02:33] lol === RxDx [i=Rodrigo@201-74-144-221-sj.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:34] chibiace: lol I id that once.. the touchpad was broken and was interfering with the mouse. [02:34] chopping a few wires did the trick :) === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:35] nosrednaekim: didnt it have a plug ? [02:35] nope... it was pretty old. [02:35] chibiace: lemme boot my virtual fedora, and see if I can make that work === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikeconcepts [n=Mike@61.74.203.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:36] chibiace: can we wok from that, and then apply it to Ubuntu? [02:37] Kousotu: if you want [02:37] ok, lemme load Fedora === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:39] chibiace: any idea what "SELinux" is? [02:40] Security Enhanced Linux. [02:40] "Security enhanced" developed by the NSA [02:40] ah.. [02:40] thx [02:40] SELinux is a bunch of rules governing executables based on extended filesystem attributes (going by memory here) [02:41] AFAIK it requires a fair amount of setup in Ubuntu before it works. [02:41] it's not at all easy to use [02:41] And it gave fedora people *huge* headaches when they turned it on. [02:41] But I think that's now fixed, pretty much. [02:41] RAOF: yes, I have heard that too, and seen how to do it [02:43] We've got AppArmour installed & enabled at the moment, which is a simpler (but technically inferior, from what I've read) system for the same sort of thing. === Invincible_2 [i=Invincib@adsl-68-79-205-109.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:43] wth? [02:43] DAMNIT! [02:44] there we go lol [02:45] chibiace: ok, fedora is loaded [02:45] now what? [02:45] lol === Kousotu waits for help now === OSUKid7 [n=OSUKid7@cpe-75-185-34-49.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bderrly [n=bderr@68-116-57-58.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [02:54] firefox seem to be really slow in connecting and looking up stuff [02:54] why is this? [02:55] !ipv6 [02:55] To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 [02:55] That's one possibility. [02:56] kiba: how long have you had the OS running? [02:56] chibiace === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Dannilion [n=danni@149.254.200.222] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:18] Kousotu: since I brought and set up the computer === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:19] I have a camera built-in to my LCD on my laptop, how can I identify what type it is? [03:19] Kousotu: ever since I upgrade my system to testing..it alway been slow [03:19] kiba: then you might want o clean th cache [03:19] to* === sparr [n=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:19] wish me luck on dist-upgrade from edgy to gutsy [03:20] ... [03:20] sparr:uhhh... [03:20] sparr: You really shouldnt do that. [03:21] wow, fastest failed upgrade ever. [03:21] lol [03:21] xD [03:21] sparr: Really, really go through Feisty. Edgy->Fiesty->Gutsy *should* work. Edgy->Gutsy is totally unsupported. [03:21] can anyone tell me why my touchpad still works?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34620/ === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bur[n] er [n=burner@unaffiliated/burner] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:23] Kousotu: probably because its mapped to /dev/input/mice? [03:23] Pici: can you help me remove it? [03:23] remove what? [03:23] my touchpad [03:23] uh [03:23] hold on, brb [03:23] k [03:24] well, if anyone cares... dist-upgrade from edgy to gutsy fails completely [03:24] we don't care :-) [03:24] skipping versions is intentionally not supported [03:24] lol [03:24] it tries to install conflicting packages. apt-get thinks that libdevmapper1.02 is both autoremove-able AND essential :) [03:27] sparr: See point "don't care" :) [03:27] sparr: However, we *do* care if Edgy->Feisty->Gutsy breaks. === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:28] i wish ubuntu had something like debian unstable :( [03:28] they do, it's gutsy [03:28] thats the only down side to switching distros [03:28] ubuntu+1 and debian unstable are nothing alike [03:28] you can permanent unstable by switching to the devel release as soon as it's out o.O [03:29] wb Pici [03:29] ty [03:29] debian unstable is rock solid 99% of the time for 99% of users. ubuntu+1 is guaranteed to fail for almost anyone until at least a few weeks into the dev cycle [03:29] eh? it usually starts working without a glitch for me at the first beta [03:29] sure, first beta [03:30] sparr: Indeed. During the time when we catch up to Debian unstable :) [03:30] yw [03:30] first beta for gutsy is still 5(?) weeks away [03:30] Kousotu: I'd suggest figuring out what module your touchpad is using and then blacklisting it === Knightlust [n=dax@122.2.246.215] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:30] pci: wel, can you help me with that? [03:30] sparr, I suppose. Other than the gdm failure at logout, it works fine here. [03:30] the biggest difference is the length of the release cycle. Debian moved at a rather glacial pace, so the breakage was more spread out [03:31] heh, glacial [03:31] on another topic... why does ubuntu 'waste' my time with wacom and synaptic entries in xorg.conf by default? now that i finally have a machine with a wacom input... it doesnt Just Work. so whats the point? [03:31] pici: well, can you help me with that? [03:31] Kousotu: I'm thinking how to get that information [03:32] k [03:32] sparr, how so? having the entries is harmless [03:33] Arwen: having them spams me with errors every time i have to look into the x logs === nosrednaekim [n=michael@02-047.200.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:33] so, do a search and replace or something [03:33] or edit them out [03:33] Are the iso images updated with the new 100.14.11 driver [03:33] i do edit them out [03:34] it seems bad to have (EE) lines in the xorg logs by default for most users [03:34] when they dont SEEM to help [03:34] Kousotu: hmm... I'm not sure this is going to work the right way. Could you disable it through your BIOS? [03:34] i was glad when i saw i had a wacom touchscreen. "wow, ubuntu supports that out of the box, i know this because ive had to disable those conf lines many times" [03:34] and then... doesnt work [03:34] Pici: I doubt it [03:34] sparr: That's kind of funny [03:35] sparr, well, wacom support is dodgy last I checked. You'd be glad if you had a synaptics touchpad though. [03:35] Pici: we can experiment in fedora if you want, I don't really care about it [03:35] im sure whoever i sell the tablet to will just reformat and install a pirated copy of xp tablet edition anyways... but it would be nice to have it working in linux [03:35] Kousotu: I dont feel comfortable doing that. [03:35] Pici: either that or jus wai for me to make a virtual Ubuntu [03:35] I havent touched fedora in years. [03:36] I'd double check your bios though if you really want to disable it. [03:36] Pici: o, leme make a virtul ubuntu then [03:37] (this'll just take a few mins) [03:39] I meant your computer's bios, not the virtual machine's bios fyi [03:41] yes, I know [03:41] but I doubt the Bios has that option [03:41] and this way we can ply wih no harm to worry about [03:41] lol === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:43] Well I dont think its going to work. My laptop binds both the trackpad and the nub to psmouse, which probably also controls your external mouse. So blaclisting that might also remove regular mouse functions [03:44] Pici: hence the virtual ubuntu [03:44] lol === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === allbert [n=allberto@124.82.34.229] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:54] hm... my sound appears to be broken with the new kernel === Tretle [n=me@213-202-184-22.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === malnilion [n=malnilio@129.244.177.157] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:02] could someone help me out with a gutsy installation [04:03] I have an oem copy of windows on a seperate partition but ubuntu detected it and wouldnt allow me to enter a user name in the installation process === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:03] so now I cant login because I dont know the username [04:04] try the windows one [04:04] in all lowercase [04:04] I did, no luck [04:06] I dont even understand why it thinks it should do that in the first place [04:06] just because another os ubuntu is being shared with is an oem doesnt mean that the users control should be taken away === CydeSwype [n=ian@adsl-76-244-163-233.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:08] Tretle: I set it not to, I have my own login [04:09] and where does it give you the option? [04:11] Tretle: were you install, mport "to inport non, select none and continue" [04:11] hey all. i've been troubleshooting all day (since the kernel upgrade). trying to get nvidia back to its working state (so i can run compiz, external monitor, etc). i've tried using the nvidia-glx-new package...but i think i'm still missing the nvidia kernel [04:12] Tretle: can you boot to windows? [04:12] using windows right now [04:12] CydeSwype: that should be a dependency of the nvidia-glx-new package [04:12] unfortunately [04:13] Tretle: open disc manager [04:13] in windows [04:13] right-click "my computer" (compute on Vista) and select manage [04:13] yea [04:13] nosrednaekim: one would think so...but it doesn't seem to appear in synaptic. i'm still thinking i may have some goofy sources [04:14] Tretle: What windows version are you running? [04:14] gott you so far [04:14] vista [04:14] CydeSwype: hmm humm [04:15] ok, wanted to know [04:15] lol === DarkX [n=DarkX@ip70-181-154-127.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:16] cause Vista is set up diferently than XP [04:16] what should I be trying to do? [04:16] select disk management [04:16] get to a partition manager [04:16] ? [04:16] that's what disk management is [04:17] yep [04:17] select it [04:17] yep [04:17] it shows (unknown partion,healthy) [04:17] corect? === kelsa|martalli [n=bryan@76.77.238.231] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:18] it shows 3 of them [04:18] 3? [04:18] hm.. [04:18] sec [04:18] what's that website where i can post a snippet for people to see? i'll post my sources.list [04:18] wait [04:18] do u mean unknown instead of primary? [04:18] !paste [04:18] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:18] sec [04:19] yeah that thing ;^) thanks [04:19] on the bottom is says Healthy (unknown) [04:19] right? [04:19] When I start up, the computer hangs and goes into what I believe is a maintenance shell. It then gives ream after ream of error messages. If I kill the udev preocess, then everything is fine....I wonder if it might be looking for some old external drive (this computer has been upgraded since dapper and now is on gutsy) === afief [n=afief@85-250-209-178.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Pici [n=Pici@ool-4355be00.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:19] Is there a way to start off fresh with an new fstab, or am I taking a stab in the wrong direction? [04:20] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34738/ [04:20] that's my sources.list [04:20] no [04:20] doesnt show that [04:20] what does it show? [04:21] what exactly should I be trying to do? could I do it from gparted? [04:21] no, you want to remove the ext3 partions and star over [04:21] system, boot, page file [04:22] on XP they come up Healthy ( Unknown partion) [04:22] and it goes on like that in the drive header [04:22] I installed vista first and then ubuntu over it if that helps [04:22] Tretle: cn you send me a snapshot of the dick maager on VIstapleas? === se7en^Of^9 [n=se7enofn@125-24-135-54.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === nedw [n=ned@adsl-2-55-32.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:23] oops.. [04:23] disk* [04:23] lol [04:23] lol [04:23] are all these bugs going to be fixed or just postponed? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/tribe-5/ [04:23] tribe-5 is tomorrow! [04:23] really [04:23] have no screenshot app [04:24] tretle: print screen, paste in Paint [04:24] print screenis the inbedded snapshot maker for windows === burner [n=burner@c-67-172-157-202.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === allbert [n=allberto@60.53.34.208] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] Pici: hey [04:26] Kousotu: hmm? [04:26] Pici: oh wait.. ubuntu v is still installing lol [04:26] will I post the screen on pastebin or what? [04:26] Pici: sorry, I though tit was done [04:27] Tretle: email it lol [04:27] Tretle: post the pic on flickr or something similar [04:27] Kousotu: You're going to have to ask someone else to help you, I'm going afk for a few hours [04:27] Kousotu: good luck [04:27] Pici: darn... [04:28] Pici: I'll be here all day ;) === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@129.120.244.105] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:29] http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diskmanagerqi6.jpg [04:30] ty [04:30] yw === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wweasel [n=weasel@modemcable178.82-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Jordan_U [n=Jordan_U@h-68-165-173-119.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:32] delete the 3 un nammes partions [04:32] leave C and D aloe [04:33] that will remove ubiuntu from your system, and we'll work from there [04:34] Tretle: By the way, if you ever wanted to do this without Windows (no windows on the computer, etc), you could do it with a livecd such as the gparted livecd [04:34] kelsa|martalli: I've had alot of probelms with Gparted === PWill [n=paul@unaffiliated/pwill] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:35] kelsa|martalli: and this is about the easiest wy to do it [04:35] lol [04:35] Kousotu: It has always worked well for me, but I have probably used qtparted more (underlying program is the same however). OpenBSD munched one of my laptops hard drives, so it has set sort of a low standard =) [04:36] well up to today I ws using gutsy as my main system for a few months === Rexbron [n=ubuntu@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:36] Tretle: A few months? You must have installed tribe-1 [04:36] but the Im starting a course in advanced networks and software design and the college want the students to use windows [04:36] I only apt'd up last week (I feel unadventurous now =) [04:36] hey, any Ubiquity devs in here? [04:37] bug 134178 [04:37] lol [04:37] Launchpad bug 134178 in ubiquity "[gutsy] ubiquity crashes with InstallStepError: LanguageApply failed with error 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134178 [04:37] I felt rather gutsy (no pun intended) and installed Tribe4 alpha for a while [04:37] lol [04:38] Is there any way to start over with a new fstab? I suppose just deleting the file won't work (like it might with my .gnome directory) [04:39] Maybe I should rephrase it...if I delete (rename) my fstab file...will my system not boot? [04:39] kelsa|martalli: Yes. That is correct. [04:39] shucks [04:40] before I go, you dont know why its taking so long to fix the duplicating documents and desktop in the places section of the panel so you? [04:41] Tretle: I don't know if his will work, but... [04:41] lok for an EXT3 partion driver for VIsta [04:41] and then move what you want to keep [04:42] eh.... I could always through a copy of dapper in and use gparted on that [04:42] Here is my fstab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34741/ There is an esternal USB drive with several partitions and I think this drive and the fstab has been confusing feisty and more so gutsy (gutsy really won't boot unless I kill the udevd from the maintenance shell) [04:43] i'll give it another go [04:43] thx for the help === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:43] cya [04:44] kelsa|martalli, An external drive shouldn't need to be in your fstab unless it needs to be dealt with in a specific way === BotLobsta [n=kevin@BAKER-SIX-FORTY-SEVEN.MIT.EDU] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:44] Jordan_U: So I could delete/comment out the lines referring to the external drive and see if that helps? [04:45] The fstab and the whole install date back to dapper [04:45] has anyone else noticed the progress bar on the startup splash screen not working in xubuntu? === rockets [n=rockets@pool-71-247-35-247.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:45] Wow, I installed Gutsy on a system that normally idles at 70 C, and now it's idling at 59. [04:46] This is a laptop that normally idles at 70 C, and at load can hit 85 or 87. Oh, and it's an Athlon XP 1400. [04:46] I'm surprised the CPU isn't dead, actually. I set the hostname to "silicon-oven" to be somewhat clever. [04:46] But this dynticks really makes a big difference. === ertr [n=se7enofn@125-24-137-143.adsl.totbb.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:47] np Tretle [04:47] Just one issue with that old laptop: zero battery life. Batteries are apparently dead. They go from 0%, charging, to 100%, not charging, and back. I pulled out the battery for fear of starting a fire, or something. [04:48] DanaG: Is that new with gutsy? [04:48] The battery thing? Nope, it's there even in Windows. [04:48] I just installed feisty by rebuilding 'instlux' myself, and then using net install. [04:49] s/just/just today/ [04:50] DanaG, Yeah, I am just disappointed that we won't get the new scheduler for Gutsy === Vuen [n=nick@bas9-ottawa23-1096655151.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:51] DanaG, I had a battery balloon to about three times its width, luckily I saw it and took it out of my laptop while it was still just a one cm bulge [04:51] hey guys, is compiz still on by default on the latest testing releases of gutsy? [04:51] Vuen, Yes [04:51] What's the proper way to get rid of dead batteries? [04:51] Yes. [04:51] awesome [04:52] are they making a whitelist of cards for which it will be enabled by default? and if so, where might one see such a list? [04:52] DanaG, Many times the manufacturer will take it for proper disposal [04:52] Vuen: No, there's a blacklist of cards that can't work, and then we detect whether or not your driver/card combo can run compiz. [04:52] that's cool [04:53] Vuen: For details, see less $(which compiz) :) [04:53] is everything ati on the blacklist? or have they released drivers that work yet? [04:53] RAOF: can you help me blacklist my touchpad? [04:53] Kousotu: No, sorry. [04:54] Vuen: No. The blacklist is currently "nv, vesa, vmware". [04:54] Vuen, Many older ati cards run CF fine with the open source drivers [04:54] ah [04:54] Oh yeah, you should see the heatsink on that laptop: it's 1/2 inch tall, 1.5 inches broad, and 1 inch thick (through the fins). [04:54] damn.. [04:54] Vuen: The open-source ati drivers run compiz fine, and the fglrx drivers don't provide the necessary features. [04:54] Somebody at HP must've been drunk, or something, when designing that laptop. [04:54] RAOF, Shouldn't fglrx be on there too, or do they not put it there in case someone installs XGL? [04:55] It also has a floppy controller AND a spot on the PCB for the ribbon AND a slot on the exterior; however, the slot is covered with a blanking plate due to one oversight: [04:55] If you put a floppy drive there, it'd occupy the same space as the hard drive. Oops. [04:55] Jordan_U: No. We only blacklist drivers that die when we try to detect whether they can run compiz. [04:55] ah. makes sense [04:55] RAOF, Ahh, OK [04:56] that's sweet. [04:56] any news on the kubuntu+compiz front? or is that still a no go? [04:56] Since we can safely detect that fglrx is crap, we don't need to explicitly blacklist it :) [04:56] RAOF, What is the procedure for detection? [04:56] Dunno, ask a Kubuntuite :) === vlowther [n=vlowther@adsl-75-55-115-198.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kelsa|martalli [n=bryan@76.77.238.231] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:56] i'm running kgutsy here, but i don't know whether compiz is on by default :p [04:57] Vuen, What GFX card do you have? [04:57] nvidia 6600 [04:57] Ahah...I still have the problem, but I discovered this bug report: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg382751.html which is exactly what I have [04:57] no no, i can figure out whether compiz is running... [04:57] Jordan_U: Does the driver support: (1) GL_EXT_texture_from_pixmap (detected with glxinfo), (2) Is Composite enabled (detected with xvinfo) [04:57] They recommend uninstalling evms [04:57] i'm just wondering whether it's by default on a fresh install [04:58] Without evms, will I lose access to my external drives? [04:58] RAOF, I assume xvinfo is where some drivers crash? [04:59] Vuen, Enable restricted drivers and see :) [04:59] what scheduler? [04:59] gutsy has CFS [04:59] Amaranth, Oh, nvm then :) === buzztracker [n=buzztrac@pelikan.garga.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === soul9 [n=Nil@db20c9pchc.adsl.datanet.hu] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:01] Jordan_U: i upgraded from feisty, i won't be able to see [05:01] besides, i'm already using compiz [05:01] cn someone help me disable mytouchpad? [05:01] i'm just wondering whether it's on by default. [05:01] on a fresh install. [05:01] anyway nevermind [05:01] kubuntu is not getting compiz [05:01] ever [05:01] they're waiting for kde4 [05:01] because, quite frankly, kwin blows compiz away [05:01] ok see that's all i wanted to know [05:01] thx === arthur- [n=arthur@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === arthur- [n=arthur@gov91-1-82-234-91-6.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu+1 [] [05:02] Ooh, on this snd-via82xx driver, ac97 powersave breaks Gnome. [05:02] Does kwin have the cube? === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:03] I think I should confirm that, and if it's true, that's a big bug. === kelsa|martalli loves the cube and loves kde too [05:04] this may be a bit of a newb question....but how do i know if i need nvidia glx, glx-new or glx-legacy? [05:04] CydeSwype, Restricted manager should choose the correct one [05:07] Jordan_U: cool. trouble is, i tell the restricted driver manager app to "do the nvidia thing" and it says cool...makes me reboot...but i still come back up with an API mismatch error [05:08] CydeSwype, Have you checked for any bugs filed in launchpad? [05:09] yeah...but i'm not really sure what to look for. nothing comes up for api mismatch === nedw [n=ned@adsl-2-55-32.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Leaving"] [05:13] whenever i search the bugs on launchpad with just the term "nvidia" i get an error...guess i should report that to the launchpad people [05:14] went that time [05:14] nothing blah [05:19] hmm...modprobe nvidia should come back with something shouldn't it? === Agrajag` [n=Agrajag@c-67-163-214-103.hsd1.oh.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 [05:21] reboot time brb [05:21] CydeSwype, It should output nothing unless there is an error === Jordan_U has horrible timing === Ahadiel [n=michael@S010600131042857c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === maniacmusician [n=maniacmu@24-151-1-102.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === wweasel [n=weasel@modemcable178.82-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] Dang, S3 TwisterK: no non-power-of-two textures. === johnficca [n=johnficc@c-71-231-198-109.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:40] I'm pretty amazed I've not have a problem with gutsy gibbon in like two months [05:40] i've had problems [05:41] what kind ? [05:41] open office wouldn't start for about two months [05:41] actually it still won't start [05:41] sometimes it shows the splash screen, sometimes it doesn't... either way it doesn't start up [05:41] you could try downloading it from the web site [05:42] meh [05:42] i don't use ooffice anyway [05:42] i use tex [05:42] Vuen, Using KDE? [05:42] yeah [05:42] KDE unfortunately tends to not get nearly as much attention as Gnome [05:42] i don't really mind, honestly i couldn't care less. if i desperately need to open a .doc, i just use abiword [05:43] but i write *everything* in tex. lately i've been job searching so my resume, etc all in tex === skinnypuppy1334 [n=user@66-168-108-106.dhcp.mdvl.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:43] and kile is so awesome [05:44] I like the new gummy clearlooks theme a lot [05:45] Vuen: I prefer plain txt === wweasel [n=weasel@modemcable178.82-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:45] a plain txt resume isn't exactly presentable... === Toma- [n=e17@i156-171.nv.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:45]