[12:12] <edujose> bdmurray: wow! What a borked installation I have!
[12:13] <edujose> bdmurray: seems opensolaris and me are not very compatible :-)
[12:15] <edujose> bdmurray: I see that I too have nautilus 2.19.90-0ubuntu1
[12:17] <bdmurray> edujose: How did you go about checking the specific package version?
[12:18] <edujose> bdmurray: it's the same as yours, 2.19.90-0ubuntu1
[12:18] <edujose> bdmurray: well, maybe it's not that useful to report this as a bug if it can't be reproduced :-(
[12:19] <bdmurray> edujose: right I realize it is the same version I am curious about how you found the version as I use the "old school" 'dpkg -l' way and am looking for a new way
[12:20] <edujose> bdmurray: ah I went to System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134150 in dpkg (main) "support for ddebs in dpkg-scanpackages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134150
[12:21] <edujose> bdmurray: there pressed the Search button at right and entered 'nautilus'
[12:22] <bdmurray> edujose: Okay, thanks.
[12:24] <edujose> bdmurray: it's the first thing I thought, as I don't know dpkg and friends
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134152 in splatd (universe) "Please sponsor upload for splatd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134152
[12:25] <edujose> bdmurray: anyway it seems the opensolaris thing is not for me :-)
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134154 in gnome-panel (main) "my computer using wifi radar will not recognise a wireless internet connection nor does the network manager recognise it.  Other computers both using ubuntu and windows can recognise the connection. Am using wired connection now." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134154
[12:27] <edujose> bdmurray: do you think it's still useful reporting this as a bug? as it seems not reproducible...
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134155 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "oops kernel page request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134155
[12:30] <bdmurray> edujose: using synaptic seems a lot easier, I'm just an old dog. ;)
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134153 in xorg (main) "[gutsy]  xorg failed to start on an Intel 945 using Kubuntu desktop CD daily build 20070822.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134153
[12:31] <bdmurray> edujose: there is still _something_ wrong it is just harder to figure out
[12:32] <edujose> bdmurray: oh no old dog, it's just that I'm a newbye in package management
[12:32] <edujose> bdmurray: and newbies seem to like the UI better thatn the CLI :-)
[12:34] <bdmurray> edujose: right so knowing how to describe a UI way would be better
[12:35] <bdmurray> edujose: Could add the synaptic way to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/FAQ ?
[12:40] <edujose> bdmurray: sure, but what do I do? Just add it there?
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134157 in hibernate (universe) ""/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio<n>" disapears" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134157
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134158 in gnome-netstatus (main) "gnome-netstatus-applet crashed with signal 5 in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134158
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134159 in atop (universe) "atop Kernel patch doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134159
[12:41] <pedro_> bdmurray: any thoughts on bug 134154 ?
[12:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134154 in gnome-panel "my computer using wifi radar will not recognise a wireless internet connection nor does the network manager recognise it.  Other computers both using ubuntu and windows can recognise the connection. Am using wired connection now." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134154
[12:41] <bdmurray> edujose: maybe 'dpkg -l firefox' . ..  or what you did
[12:41] <bdmurray> pedro_: looking
[12:43] <bdmurray> pedro_: I have a lot of thoughts about it. ;)
[12:44] <pedro_> hahah
[12:44] <pedro_> i don't want to reject it as invalid :-P
[12:45] <pedro_> i better point him to gutsy
[12:45] <bdmurray> I think answers.launchpad.net would be most appropriate for them.
[12:46] <pedro_> ok both then ;-)
[12:46] <pedro_> thanks
[12:46] <bdmurray> We would have to find out the wireless card / chipset, driver . . .
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134160 in acpi (main) "Suspend freeze on Mac Mini (Intel) (Feisty 7.04)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134160
[12:57] <edujose> bdmurray: ok, I'll add to the FAQ, now fighting with the wiki
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #134161 in ubiquity (main) "how to install User Mode Linux on ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134161
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134163 in bzr (main) "bzr commit failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134163
[01:43] <edujose> bdmurray: I did update the FAQ with the Synaptic way of finding a package version
[01:46] <edujose> bdmurray: hope my writing can be understood
[01:46] <bdmurray> edujose: I think so, thanks for doing that!
[01:48] <edujose> bdmurray: thank you for asking me to do it, it's my first time editing a wiki :-)
[01:49] <edujose> bdmurray: about the nautilus bug, maybe it's better that I update to the next tribe and try there
[01:51] <edujose> bdmurray: before filling a bug
[01:51] <bdmurray> edujose: if you are updating regularly via update-manager there is no need to "update to the next tribe"
[01:52] <edujose> bdmurray: yes I do, so I don't need to download it again? Fine!
[01:54] <edujose> bdmurray: well, many thanks for looking into my folder woes
[01:55] <edujose> bdmurray: must go to bed now, have an early morning tomorrow
[01:55] <bdmurray> edujose: No, there is no need to download it again
[01:59] <edujose> bdmurray: tomorrow we'll see the shiny new alpha
[02:00] <bdmurray> edujose: hopefully
[02:01] <edujose> bdmurray: hope the list of bugs diminishes, preferably by itself :-)
[02:02] <edujose> bdmurray: must go to bed real now, so good night
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134165 in tspc (main) "Tsp tunnel keeps restarting to the point it is not usable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134165
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134166 in gnome-desktop (main) "fonts:///" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134166
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134167 in Ubuntu "sound does not resume with 2.6.22-10-generic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134167
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134169 in cowdancer (universe) "cowbuilder fails to build linux-restricted-modules" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134169
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134171 in firefox (main) "Nashbar web site renders incorrectly in Firefox 2.0.0.6 on Feisty " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134171
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #134173 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Bluetooth Oops" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134173
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134175 in procps (main) "Suggesting setting a default option to help workaround a issue todo with idle connections on 'home routers'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134175
[04:29] <ubotu> New bug: #134176 in Ubuntu "[gutsy]  window title fonts small with compiz normal effects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134176
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134177 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  gnome-panels remain visible in full-screen mode in gqview with compiz normal effects" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134177
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134178 in ubiquity (main) "[gutsy]  ubiquity crashes with InstallStepError: LanguageApply failed with error 2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134178
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #134180 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "X does not start after 8/22 fglrx update " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134180
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134182 in 915resolution (universe) "Have big problem with Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134182
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134183 in xubuntu-artwork (main) "xubuntu splash screen progress bar doesnt work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134183
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134185 in Ubuntu "crash with re-install of 7.04 over 6.0.6" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134185
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134186 in kcheckgmail (universe) "kcheckgmail crash when is closed during mail checking" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134186
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134187 in kde-systemsettings (main) "System Settings sometimes crash in Kubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134187
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134193 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "ipw3945 doesn't work after gutsy update (2.6.22-10)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134193
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134195 in kmediafactory (multiverse) "(Gusty) kmediafactory does not install in main menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134195
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #134156 in gnome-power-manager (main) "battery state not updated after wake up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134156
[08:43] <dholbach> good morning
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134197 in monodevelop (universe) "Monodevelop 0.15 Released - Please Package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134197
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134196 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[Gutsy]  no more audio after update kernel 2.6.22-10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134196
[09:06] <thekorn> good morning
[09:07] <dholbach> heya thekorn!
[09:07] <dholbach> looks like it's time for THE MOVE soon ;-)
[09:07] <dholbach> py-lp-bugs is broken already :)
[09:07] <dholbach> but ... no pressure :)
[09:08] <thekorn> ok, will do some quick tests, to make sure nothing changed
[09:09] <dholbach> take your time
[09:09] <dholbach> I'll review your changes again
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134199 in ubuntu "ADSL network de-configures almost every time on shutdown" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134199
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134200 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "snd_hda_intel being in lum: Audio problems with D620" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134200
[09:17] <dholbach> thekorn: we might have to add something to debian/copyright about the LateBindingProperty class
[09:18] <thekorn> do we also need license things at the top of the files?
[09:19] <dholbach> not necessarily
[09:19] <dholbach> but if you want to, ...
[09:19] <thekorn> no
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134201 in ubuntu "apt.conf examles should include caching" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134201
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134202 in ubuntu "hda-intel problem since kernel 2.6.22-10-generic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134202
[09:26] <dholbach> I'm quite happy with the changes, althought the recent reporter change seems to be missing - or did I overlook it?
[09:27] <dholbach> if it's missing, no problem - we shouldn't get blocked on that, we break the world anyway
[09:27] <dholbach> and it's easy enough to add things
[09:28] <thekorn> dholbach: reporter changes?
[09:29] <dholbach> you can query based on the bug reporter
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134203 in ubuntu "7.04 installs on SATA, but won't boot on DG965OT mobo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134203
[09:32] <thekorn> hmm, you mean the --reporter option to bughelper? this should be there
[09:32] <dholbach> ah ok good
[09:32] <dholbach> I overlooked it then
[09:33] <thekorn> ok, all tests worked fine, will now merge GSoc.STAGING into GSoC branch
[09:34] <dholbach> ok
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134204 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "kernel oops on dual core notebook during suspend/resume, one core left working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134204
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134205 in bacula (universe) "2.2.0 released" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134205
[09:44] <thekorn> bah, 'Text conflict in launchpadbugs/html_bug.py'
[09:44] <dholbach> :-/
[09:56] <thekorn> one change in launchpad: more oops than before :( IMHO
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134206 in ubuntu "alsa hda-intel not working anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134206
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134207 in warzone2100 (universe) "wrong dependencies in warzone2100 ?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134207
[10:15] <thekorn> dholbach: merged py-lp-bugs GSoC branch pushed, should work with lp 1.1.8 now
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134208 in tor (universe) "/etc/init.d/tor doesn't use log_daemon_msg/log_end_msg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134208
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134209 in privoxy (universe) "/etc/init.d/privoxy doesn't use log_daemon_msg/log_end_msg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134209
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134210 in openvpn (universe) "/etc/init.d/openvpn doesn't use log_daemon_msg/log_end_msg" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134210
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134212 in gsynaptics (universe) "[Gutsy]  gsynaptics no icon (dup-of: 133408)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134212
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134213 in slocate (main) "double free or corruption detected by glibc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134213
[10:45] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll look into the packaging now - seems that we have to wait for tribe 5 freeze to end anyway
[10:46] <dholbach> thekorn: maybe we can make use of the bughelper-dev PPA for that - to try and see if it works ok
[10:46] <thekorn> ok
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134214 in ubuntu "no sound alert on new mail in evolution in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134214
[10:53] <norsetto> dholbach: morning :-)
[10:54] <dholbach> hey norsetto
[10:55] <norsetto> dholbach: was looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Debian/. Seems quite obsolete (I mean, all the references to warty)?
[10:55] <dholbach> norsetto: it should be updated, yes
[10:56] <norsetto> dholbach: would you know any reference I can use to update it?
[10:56] <dholbach> norsetto: not at the moment; I'd need to look at it myself again too
[10:57] <norsetto> dholbach: okki dokki, let me know if there is anything else I can help with
[10:57] <dholbach> if you want to update paragraphs on the page, that's fine with me - if you want me to review later -- I can do that
[11:04] <dholbach> seems I need to a few more changes
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134215 in uswsusp (main) "No splash screen for hibernate / resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134215
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134216 in qgis (universe) "QGis cannot be installed in gutsy gibbon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134216
[11:07] <dholbach> thekorn: I get a compilation error: http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/compile.error
[11:08] <norsetto> dholbach: btw, since you mentioned it to me 3 days ago, I tried to access the PPA but I'm stuck waiting to be approved in the launchpad beta team. Is there no way to accelerate this?
[11:08] <dholbach> norsetto: just ask in #launchpad - I'm sure somebody will do it, if you ask them
[11:08] <norsetto> dholbach: ok, will do...
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134217 in alsa-driver (main) "Sound level far too low since today's Gutsy update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134217
[11:15] <thekorn> dholbach: strange error
[11:16] <dholbach> thekorn: there was another one because of python2.4 -> python2.5
[11:16] <dholbach> but I ommitted it by not byte compiling for 2.4
[11:17] <thekorn> this seems to be a merge conflict '<<<<TREE'
[11:17] <thekorn> it did not happen to me
[11:18] <thekorn> dholbach: we have an other serious problem:
[11:19] <thekorn> they changed the notation of upstream products,
[11:19] <dholbach> thekorn: aha? what did you mean?
[11:20] <thekorn> it is not bughelper (upstream) anymore but they are using the product name now
[11:20] <thekorn> like in
[11:20] <thekorn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bughelper/+bug/88521
[11:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88521 in bughelper "selectively pulling attachments by name" [Wishlist,Confirmed] 
[11:21] <thekorn> in the Info/Task overview
[11:22] <dholbach> urg
[11:22] <dholbach> maybe best to parse the link there
[11:22] <dholbach> but still :-(((
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134218 in gnash (universe) "package mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.1~trunk.070802-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso novo script pre-removal retornou erro do status de sada 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134218
[11:26] <thekorn> yup, that was also my idea,
[11:27] <thekorn> ok, need a small break, will work on this issue soon
[11:28] <dholbach> thekorn: excellent - thanks a lot
[11:28] <dholbach> take your time
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134170 in metacity (main) "metacity crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 92502)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134170
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134219 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Simultaneous speaker and headphone sound since yesterday [Dell XPS M1710] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134219
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134221 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "No sound on MacBook (Intel HDA) with 2.6.22-10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134221
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134222 in linux-kernel-headers (main) "linux-kernel-header has files with size 0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134222
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134224 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134224
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134225 in kubuntu-default-settings (main) "no usplash on live CD boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134225
[12:34] <coNP> I hate the new LP bug behaviour
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #134226 in ubuntu "[GUTSY]  no audio in kernel 2.6.22-10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134226
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134227 in casper (main) "restricted-manager still has autostart file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134227
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #134228 in ubuntu "Gutsy Tribe 4 Live CD cannot boot: Xorg fatal error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134228
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134229 in gnome-phone-manager (universe) "Please update gnome-phone-manager to 0.10" [Wishlist,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134229
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134231 in ubuntu "Update Manager unable to install 2 new updates." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134231
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134232 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "The JRE could not be found" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134232
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134233 in ontv (universe) "[UVFe]  Please update ontv to 2.8.0" [Wishlist,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134233
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134234 in compiz (main) "bouncing windows effect for raise/lower" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134234
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134235 in manpages-es (universe) "Spanish manpages with wrong encoding" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134235
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #134236 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "kernel 2.6.22-10 breaks sound on lenovo c200 (regression from 2.6.22-9)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134236
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134237 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No display after selecting 'Start or Install' or 'CD Check'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134237
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #134238 in uswsusp (universe) "Please re-enable build of s2ram binary" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134238
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134239 in openoffice.org (main) "spelling check dialogue has spurious extra "s"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134239
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134241 in banshee (universe) "Banshee discovers the music share in the local network but doesn't connect to it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134241
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134244 in launchpad-integration (main) "translate this application should open new window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134244
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134245 in ubuntu "[gutsy]  restricted driver namager claims 2 nvidia drivers in use" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134245
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134246 in ubuntu "[needs packaging]  Ampache" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134246
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134247 in compiz (main) "[Enhancement]  upgrading compiz to version 0.5.4" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134247
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134248 in ubuntu "window video format bad playback, possibly other formats also" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134248
[02:15] <Hobbsee> Bug 125018
[02:15] <ubotu> Bug 125018 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/125018 is private
[02:15] <ogra> :P
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134249 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "model=XXX insmod option doesn't work for snd-hda-intel as of 2.6.22-10.23" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134249
[02:15] <Hobbsee> how useful.
[02:15] <Hobbsee> hi ogra!
[02:16] <ogra> heys
[02:16] <Hobbsee> ogra: i would have thought -release might be able to see that, or something.
[02:16] <ogra> -s
[02:16] <ogra> is ubotu -release ?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> no
[02:16] <ogra> ;)
[02:16] <Hobbsee> but i am, and i still cant see it
[02:16] <ogra> i cant either
[02:29] <maini10> Hello, I'm triaging bug 121379. I have forwarded this backtrace to KDE upstream over 4 weeks ago as comment in a closed bug.
[02:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121379 in kdebase "Konqueror Crashed upon KDE session startup" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121379
[02:30] <maini10> Why hasn't status of KDE bug changed in this time?
[02:31] <maini10> Backtrace misses the first frame and reporter don't reply: what is the right action with this? Thanks
[02:31] <Hobbsee> maini10: because the kde bug is still marked invalid
[02:34] <maini10> But, in your opinion doesn't new backtrace advice to reopen it?
[02:34] <Hobbsee> not if it doesnt actually follow http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports no
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134250 in oem-config (main) "[Tribe5]  Ready to install "advanced" button do nothing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134250
[02:35] <Hobbsee> maini10: it needs to actually include a decent description
[02:37] <maini10> Reporter didn't reply and actually I'm unable to reproduce this issue
[02:39] <Hobbsee> maini10: then mark ti as invalid, and ask them to reopen if they encounter it again.
[02:39] <maini10> Hobbsee: Ok, thanks for your help
[02:39] <Hobbsee> no problem
[02:45] <polopolo> Hello, does someone knows ubiquity (the install program of ubuntu) works with oem-config?
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134251 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Sound broke after snd-hda-intel was disabled in new kernel (GUTSY)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134251
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134254 in oem-config (main) "[Tribe5]  Crash on "Ready to install" go backward" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134254
[02:54] <polopolo> Who is responsible for ubiqity bugs?
[02:54] <ogra> the ubuntu installer team
[02:55] <ogra> clicking on "bug contacts" on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity shows such things ;)
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134252 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134252
[02:55] <polopolo> thank you
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #134257 in firefox (main) "Cannot "Go to the address in the Location Bar"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134257
[03:01] <polopolo> on bug #134254 should I make a backtrack or not?
[03:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134254 in oem-config "[Tribe5]  Crash on "Ready to install" go backward" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134254
[03:04] <polopolo> ?
[03:06] <polopolo> nobody knows?
[03:08] <polopolo> ok
[03:09] <seb128> polopolo: looking
[03:09] <polopolo> o
[03:09] <polopolo> k
[03:10] <seb128> polopolo: that would probably be a nice extra informations to add to the bug
[03:10] <polopolo> ok, I post instructions
[03:10] <seb128> thanks
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134259 in evince (main) "evince only displays garbage if the sound card is missing / not configured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134259
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134261 in matchbox-keyboard (universe) "Lack of feedback on hitting keys" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134261
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #134264 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashed with OSError in _execvpe()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134264
[03:29] <polopolo> I tryed gdb, but where is the T.XT?
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134266 in ubuntu "sugarcrm in dapper-commercial is old" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134266
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134267 in network-manager-applet (main) "[Tribe5]  Need to de-activated and re-activated to work right" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134267
[03:31] <polopolo> hello all?
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134265 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager notification but no useable drivers, no explanation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134265
[03:33] <polopolo> nevermind
[03:34] <polopolo> I already solved it
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134268 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager crashed with TypeError in description() (dup-of: 133218)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134268
[03:37] <seb128> polopolo: for python program no need of gdb usually ;)
[03:38] <polopolo> So no need for using GDB in ubiquity?
[03:40] <polopolo> ?
[03:40] <ogra> no
[03:40] <ogra> at least if you debug python code
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134270 in openoffice.org (main) "there is something error on the top of open office applications" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134270
[03:40] <ogra> python throws out its own traceback if something breaks ...
[03:41] <polopolo> so I must not use GDB, and now send the bug to the makers?
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #134274 in apache2 (main) "Unexplained random HTTP connection failures in hardware load-balanced web-server farms" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134274
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #134271 in totem (main) "mpeg-1 playback does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134271
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #134272 in totem (main) "theora playback does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134272
[03:47] <polopolo> or use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity and then send to the maker?
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #132697 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132697
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134276 in openoffice.org (main) "OOO crashes opening this doc file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134276
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134277 in python-scipy (universe) "Error in linalg.svd for large matrix" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134277
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #134279 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  OpenVIP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134279
[03:56] <thekorn> dholbach: I think I fixed the issues with the name of uptream products in the current revision of the GSoC branch
[03:56] <dholbach> thekorn: woah cool
[03:56] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll take a look later on
[03:57] <thekorn> thanks
[03:58] <xxxxx1> hey dholbach
[04:03] <dholbach> hey xxxxx1
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134280 in firefox (main) "Firefox stores editable documents in /tmp" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134280
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134282 in ubuntu "CPU Frequency - Incorrect Display" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134282
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134283 in firefox (main) "attachments crash firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134283
[04:14] <wousser> will anyone please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/67141
[04:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67141 in ubuntu "GREP_OPTION can break system scripts" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[04:14] <wousser> whether its a security issue or not
[04:19] <dholbach> thekorn: packages of py-lp-bugs and bughelper uploaded to bughelper-dev ppa
[04:20] <dholbach> let's play with them a bit, before we upload to the archive
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #134288 in gnome-menus (main) "[Tribe5]  Multiple copies of dame entry translated or no" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134288
[04:20] <dholbach> https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev/+archive
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134285 in ubuntu "(046d:0850) QuickCam Web doesn't work in Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134285
[04:21] <dholbach> once they're built, packages should be here:    deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev/ubuntu gutsy main restricted universe multiverse
[04:22] <dholbach> oh, I get some failures
[04:23] <dholbach> http://daniel.holba.ch/temp/failures
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134289 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  exiting compiz locks X" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134289
[04:29] <thekorn> hmm, these 'NameError: global name 'Error' is not defined' are strange,
[04:30] <thekorn> the last error is because remote bugs can have an unknown status
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134292 in totem (main) "totem cannot play audio ogg from examples" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134292
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #134293 in rhythmbox (main) "open with rhythmbox is confusing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134293
[04:31] <thekorn> the first one is because there are no erros in libqt-perl
[04:31] <thekorn> try to fix these issues now
[04:32] <polopolo> !blablabla
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blablabla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <polopolo> Sorry all, just neede dthe link
[04:35] <dholbach> thekorn: thanks
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #134295 in kopete (main) "kopete history plugin doesnt work yet enabled by default" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134295
[04:49] <pbor> sorry if this is a kind of a FAQ, but is it normal that bugs are left to status incomplete after the required information has been provided or will they get out of the radar and I shall try to poke someone to confirm my bug?
[04:49] <norsetto> pbor: what bug?
[04:49] <Pici> pbor: I actually just asked that question yesterday
[04:50] <pbor> norsetto: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/133662
[04:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133662 in linux-source-2.6.22 "[Gutsy tribe 4]  sony-acpi not loaded on sony vaio" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[04:50] <pbor> but I am interested in the generic answer to my question as well :)
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #134297 in bluetooth-alsa (universe) "Does bluetooth-alsa work in Ubuntu?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134297
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #134298 in tin (universe) "Tin crashes trying writing a posting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134298
[04:53] <Pici> pbor: I put the bug back to new status so it gets looked at.
[04:54] <wousser> pbor: if you added the information you can change the bug status to new
[04:54] <pbor> Pici: thanks
[04:55] <seb128> pbor: usual workload issue
[04:55] <seb128> pbor: feel free to reopen if you provide informations (like you do with NEEDINFO bugs on bugzilla)
[04:55] <pbor> wousser: mmm, I looked around and could not find where... on the other hand it would not be the first time I could not find stuff to change in LP :)
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #134300 in kdepim (main) "kontact crashes if basket is installed on kubunt gutsy 64bit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134300
[04:57] <wousser> pbor: if you click on 'incomplete' there's a menu where you can change the status
[04:58] <pbor> oh
[04:58] <seb128> pbor: the new interface today should be better, you have some widget displayed
[04:58] <seb128> to show that you can click on the status, etc to expand the settings area
[04:58] <seb128> does it work for you?
[04:59] <pbor> seb128: I looked a couple of days ago and it was not obvious at all how to change... the menu now looks reasonable
[04:59] <pbor> seems to work
[04:59] <seb128> good
[05:06] <thekorn> dholbach: ok, two of your three problems are solved in the latest GSoC branch, will have a look at this missing 'Error' thing in a bit,
[05:06] <thekorn> have to update my gutsy chroot first
[05:09] <dholbach> thekorn: you rock
[05:09] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll check it out in a bit
[05:14] <huats> norsetto: I am back :-)
[05:15] <huats> norsetto: I am not able to create a pbuilder because of size mismatch pb...
[05:15] <norsetto> huats: size mismatch?
[05:16] <huats> norsetto: size mismatch of many .deb that the pbuilder want to download
[05:17] <norsetto> huats: you mean after you give a command "pbuilder create"?
[05:17] <huats> norsetto: yep
[05:17] <norsetto> huats: it shouldn't do that
[05:18] <norsetto> huats: you specified a mirror?
[05:18] <huats> yep
[05:18] <norsetto> huats: what repository is using?
[05:19] <huats> norsetto: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:20] <huats> norsetto: Can you also give me an example of an debian/install file ?
[05:20] <norsetto> huats: and if you use apt-get everything is ok with http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?
[05:21] <huats> norsetto: yes
[05:21] <norsetto> huats: can you try with archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:21] <norsetto> huats: make sure also that distribution is gutsy
[05:22] <huats> norsetto: I though that to create a pbuilder env I have to first create a feisty one
[05:22] <huats> ...
[05:22] <Hobbsee> huats: you dont.  building a gutsy pbuilder from scratch wont fall voer now
[05:23] <Hobbsee> huats: although ti does for the first while of development
[05:24] <huats> norsetto: no script /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy
[05:24] <norsetto> huats: yes, just manually add it (see how the feisty one is done)
[05:25] <dholbach> thekorn: I'm running the bughelper-cron script at the moment with your last fix and it looks good - just bug number three I mentioned to you already
[05:25] <Hobbsee> huats: or just grab the gutsy debootstrap source, and move the script from there
[05:25] <Hobbsee> it appears to have some changes
[05:26] <Hobbsee> OTOH...
[05:26] <Hobbsee> huats: wget http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/gutsy and move it to /u/l/d/s/.
[05:27] <huats> Hobbsee: ok thanks
[05:27] <norsetto> huats: here: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/8850519/gnome-mplayer_0.4.7-0ubuntu1.diff.gz is an example of a debian/install
[05:28] <thekorn> dholbach: ok, cool
[05:28] <thekorn> dholbach: I'm just pushing the fix for the third error
[05:29] <norsetto> hobbsee: last time I created a gutsy pbuilder in feisty I seem to remember I had to download something from the gutsy repository ?
[05:29] <dholbach> thekorn: you're amazing
[05:29] <Hobbsee> norsetto: yes, debootstrap
[05:29] <Hobbsee> norsetto: ie, which contains the above script
[05:29] <huats> norsetto: ok thanks
[05:29] <norsetto> Hobbsee: right
[05:30] <huats> Hobbsee: thanks too
[05:30] <Hobbsee> no problem
[05:31] <huats> Hobbsee: it is the debootstrap  script ? because it fails ....
[05:32] <huats> Hobbsee: is it the same usage than the one I was doing with the /u/l/d/s/feisty ?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> huats: it should be.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:32] <Hobbsee> !doesn't work | huats
[05:32] <ubotu> huats: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:33] <norsetto> heck, its my picture :-(
[05:34] <dholbach> thekorn: to api.changes.gsoc?
[05:34] <ScottK> huats: What debootstrap version do you have?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i scp'd the current gutsy version of the gutsy script
[05:35] <huats> ScottK: 0.3.3.2ubuntu3
[05:36] <huats> Hobbsee: I am sure the pb is on my side, not the file of sent me...
[05:36] <Hobbsee> huats: yes, but you havent said what faisl, or why it fails.
[05:36] <Hobbsee> huats: and RAOF nicked my psychic pony.
[05:36] <thekorn> dholbach: oh, no to the bughelper branch
[05:37] <dholbach> oh ok
[05:37] <thekorn> it was a typo in bughelper/bugnumbers
[05:37] <ScottK> huats: That version is known not to work for Gutsy chroots
[05:37] <ScottK> huats: Are you on Feisty or Gutsy.
[05:37] <huats> Hobbsee: pbuilder: debooststrap failed -> Aborting with an error
[05:37] <dholbach> thekorn: new_py_lp_bugs?
[05:37] <thekorn> bughelper-server
[05:37] <huats> ScottK: feisty
[05:38] <ScottK> huats: Enable the feisty-backports repository and update debchroot from there.
[05:38] <dholbach> thekorn: I did not use the bughelper-server branch before
[05:38] <Hobbsee> huats: usually says higher than that
[05:38] <ScottK> huats: Or get the .deb from LP https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/1.0.1~feisty1
[05:39] <thekorn> dholbach: oha, sorry i diid not mention it, I merged  the new_py_lp branch into bughelper-server
[05:39] <dholbach> thekorn: ok
[05:39] <huats> Hobbsee: there is nothing else...
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134302 in knetworkmanager (main) "keyboard accessibility problem with knetworkmanager error dialog" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134302
[05:41] <huats> ScottK:Indeed it seems to resolve that pb
[05:41] <huats> ScottK: thanks
[05:41] <ScottK> No problem.
[05:42] <thekorn> dholbach: the bughelper-server branch includes the -server script and uses the new API,
[05:42] <thekorn> so I think this should be the new 0.2 branch
[05:42] <dholbach> shouldn't we merge this into main?
[05:42] <huats> Hobbsee: there no error right now with the new debooststrap
[05:42] <Hobbsee> right, ok
[05:43] <dholbach> thekorn: looks good up until now
[05:45] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll test it a bit, then upload to PPA
[05:45] <dholbach> thekorn: we have to wait for tribe freeze to end anyway
[05:45] <dholbach> thekorn: it looks very good - thanks a lot
[05:45] <dholbach> everybody hug thekorn!
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #134303 in sudo (main) "sudo fails to authenticate user with pam_ldap based group" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134303
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #39061 in sudo (main) "visudo will open existing sudoers.tmp" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39061
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #134304 in epiphany-browser (main) "Highlighting a suggestion with the keyboard changes the URL entry in Epiphany; breaks Smart Bookmarks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134304
[05:52] <dholbach> thekorn: no explosions up until now :)
[05:52] <thekorn> yuhu
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #134305 in ubuntu "Volume distorts when on 100%" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134305
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134306 in tracker (main) "gnome-search-tool needs integration with indexer (tracker, beagle)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134306
[06:06] <norsetto> huats: yes
[06:06] <huats> norsetto: thanks
[06:07] <norsetto> huats: de rein
[06:07] <huats> norsetto: I didn't want to pollute everyone with my trivial questions, that is why I sent you an email....
[06:07] <norsetto> huats: s/rein/rien
[06:07] <huats> norsetto: you should speak in french :-)
[06:08] <norsetto> huats: je ne le parle pas ;-)
[06:09] <ScottK> huats: Lots of people read and learn here.  When you take stuff off channel, you take away that chance.
[06:10] <huats> ScottK: ok, sorry I didn't want to...
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134307 in gnunet-qt (main) "gnunet qt does not start : Failed to run /usr//bin/gnunet-setup " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134307
[06:11] <ScottK> That and norsetto doesn't know everything.  Someone else here may better answer your question.
[06:11] <mathiaz> about bug 134274
[06:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134274 in apache2 "Unexplained random HTTP connection failures in hardware load-balanced web-server farms" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134274
[06:11] <mathiaz> this is not a real bug, but rather a warkaround a specific situation
[06:12] <mathiaz> how should this be handled ?
[06:14] <ScottK> mathiaz: Maybe assign to ubuntu-doc?
[06:15] <mathiaz> ScottK: I'm not sure about it...
[06:15] <mathiaz> basically it should go in a kind of knowledge base.
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134308 in emacs22 (main) "python-mode does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134308
[06:15] <mathiaz> may be I can set the status to wishlist
[06:16] <ScottK> mathiaz: What is he wishing for?
[06:16] <mathiaz> and improve the description, so that people can find the bug
[06:16] <ScottK> 124308 is a bug btw?
[06:16] <ScottK> dupe rather
[06:16] <mathiaz> bug 124308
[06:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 124308 in njam "No .desktop file for njam" [Low,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/124308
[06:16] <ScottK> arghh
[06:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134308 in emacs22 "python-mode does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134308
[06:17] <mathiaz> for bug 134274
[06:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134274 in apache2 "Unexplained random HTTP connection failures in hardware load-balanced web-server farms" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134274
[06:17] <ScottK> No.
[06:17] <mathiaz> it's just a specific issue with the juniper networks
[06:17] <ScottK> Typo on my part.
[06:17] <mathiaz> with the juniper loadbalancer.
[06:17] <ScottK> Someone who is bugsquadding should find the original and dupe it.
[06:17] <ScottK> Right
[06:17] <ScottK> It's either invalid or documentation IMO.
[06:17] <mathiaz> We won'T change the default configuration.
[06:18] <mathiaz> well it'd be documentation then
[06:18] <mathiaz> I don't think it's invalid.
[06:18] <ScottK> It's not an Apache bug.
[06:18] <ScottK> As you say.
[06:18] <mathiaz> Well. it's the interaction between apache and the loadbalancer
[06:19] <ScottK> Yes and the loadbalance isn't doing the protocol right.
[06:19] <mathiaz> the suggested fix is the change an option in the Apache configuration.
[06:19] <ogra> mathiaz, it was filed by IntuitiveNipple btw ...
[06:19] <ogra> (who is here)
[06:19] <ScottK> Worth noting in docs, I agree, but definitely not a bug.
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134311 in hal (main) "hald-addon-hid-ups eats memory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134311
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132528 in restricted-manager "Restricted Manager broken in Gutsy (dup-of: 133218)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/132528
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #134313 in xpdf (universe) "pdfimages produces inverted image for black & white image" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134313
[06:37] <polopolo> can someone please edit the importance on bug #134279
[06:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134279 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  OpenVIP" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134279
[06:39] <ScottK> polopolo: Done
[06:41] <ubotu> New bug: #134314 in lm-sensors (main) "pwmconfig claims it can't find pwm-capable sensor modules" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134314
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134315 in apt-mirror (universe) "clean.sh not executable by default [apt-mirror] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134315
[06:53] <wousser> will anyone please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/67141
[06:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67141 in ubuntu "GREP_OPTION can break system scripts" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[06:53] <wousser> whether its a security issue or not
[06:53] <FFForever2> i was just wondering if this is a bug (it has happened to me on more then one laptop...), i am running ubuntu 7.04 and when i use my volume buttons to lower the volume all the way the system treats it as mute...., but then i try to raise the volume through the volume up button it does not work........., so i have to raise it up in the volume app on my taskbar first before i can use my volume keys again
[06:54] <ScottK> wousser: Why might it be a security issue?
[06:54] <wousser> please see the last comment
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134316 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Mozilla-thunderbird crashes when clicking on "Account Settings"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134316
[06:56] <ScottK> wousser: Same question.  That's just a generic statement.
[06:57] <pedro_> FFForever2: probably this one ?  bug 34947
[06:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 34947 in gnome-media "Volume Control  slider doesn't update" [Low,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/34947
[06:57] <wousser> ScottK: well.. if distro policies are part of the security
[06:58] <FFForever2> not quiet the same because it only happens on the keys if i move it up in the applet all is good again
[06:58] <ScottK> wousser: I'd ask the commenter what they meant by that.
[06:59] <bdmurray> I'm not clear on where they are setting GREP_OPTION
[07:01] <bdmurray> pedro_: speaking of volume control my laptop multimedia keys are now adjusting headphone volume instead of speaker volume
[07:01] <FFForever2> so should i make a new bug report pedro_?
[07:02] <pedro_> FFForever2: let's search for one similar first
[07:02] <FFForever2> ive searched to no end (lol)
[07:02] <pedro_> bdmurray: weird...
[07:03] <bdmurray> pedro_: It is probably a kernel bug if you haven't heard of something like that
[07:03] <pedro_> no i havent before
[07:04] <wousser> bdmurray: i don't know, i guess in the scripts itself which makes it an invalid bug? or he export GREP_OPTION
[07:05] <bdmurray> wousser: right, I think he would have to set that option for the root user for init scripts to be affected
[07:06] <pedro_> FFForever2: is there any change you can test your bug with gutsy?
[07:06] <FFForever2> it is still downloading tribe 4 :)
[07:06] <FFForever2> i am like 85% done downloading it
[07:07] <pedro_> FFForever2: awesome!, do the test with it first
[07:07] <wousser> ScottK, bdmurray: I'll ask that, thanks
[07:12] <polopolo> Does openoffice.org have a bug system, or must I use the forum?
[07:15] <bdmurray> polopolo: I think there is a bug tracking system if that is what you mean.
[07:15] <polopolo> yes, but where?
[07:16] <bdmurray> http://qa.openoffice.org/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html
[07:16] <polopolo> aha
[07:16] <bdmurray> somewhere from there
[07:16] <polopolo> thank you
[07:16] <polopolo> I gonna register
[07:17] <bdmurray> polopolo: Are you forwarding a bug?
[07:17] <polopolo> yes
[07:17] <andre__> http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html
[07:17] <bdmurray> What bug?
[07:17] <polopolo> uuhhm
[07:17] <polopolo> #134276
[07:17] <polopolo> bug #134276
[07:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134276 in openoffice.org "OOO crashes opening this doc file" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134276
[07:18] <bdmurray> Before forwarding it would be good to test it with gutsy
[07:18] <polopolo> So I must install gutsy and test?
[07:19] <ScottK> I'll test it.
[07:20] <polopolo> ok, but if i forward a bug, I must test it in virtualbox with gusty?
[07:22] <polopolo> ?
[07:23] <ScottK> I'd ask bdmurray.
[07:23] <polopolo> and?
[07:24] <bdmurray> For the bug to be forwarded it should be test with the upstream version of the package - depending on the upstream
[07:24] <polopolo> ok, good to knwo
[07:24] <polopolo> I gonna install virtualbox and download tribe5
[07:25] <bdmurray> polopolo: Our openoffice.org package is pretty divergent from upstream too, so it would be best to determine if it is an issue with the ubuntu package or not.
[07:26] <polopolo> but how?
[07:26] <ScottK> It crashed for me.  Let me see if I can narrow it down.
[07:26] <bdmurray> calc: Can you lend some insight into forwarding ooo bugs?
[07:29] <polopolo> ow
[07:30] <polopolo> tribe 5 releses today, so I download tomorrow
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134317 in ubuntu "Samsung X20 suspends again after resume when using FN+ESC-Keykombo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134317
[07:31] <polopolo> or can i upgrade my system to tribe 5?
[07:32] <bdmurray> you could but it isn't recommended for day to day use - stuff can still break
[07:32] <polopolo> you're right
[07:32] <polopolo> :P
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #134318 in ubuntu "writer doesn't alert if saving on /tmp dir" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134318
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #134321 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager-kde crashed with TypeError in description() (dup-of: 133218)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134321
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134323 in revelation (universe) "Can't save file" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134323
[07:51] <bdmurray> I keep clicking on the wrong thing in bug reports. :(
[07:53] <polopolo> bdmurray, how can I do what you said?
 polopolo: Our openoffice.org package is pretty divergent from upstream too, so it would be best to determine if it is an issue with the ubuntu package or not.
[07:58] <bdmurray> polopolo: test the one from openoffice.org itself?
[07:58] <polopolo> install the real one on my system?
[07:58] <polopolo> is that you mean?
[08:00] <bdmurray> polopolo: yes, but it can interfere with your exisiting openoffice install so with one system this is challenging
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #134324 in pan (main) "pan's description in Add/Remove Applications... should mention nzb support" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134324
[08:02] <polopolo> So I must install a small linux distro, that haves nothing, only a small window program and the kernel?
[08:04] <bdmurray> polopolo: There are a lot of different ways to do it depending on your computing environment.
[08:04] <polopolo> :(
[08:06] <polopolo> on a virtual compter, uninstall openoffice.org with synaptic, and then install the one on the website?
[08:09] <polopolo> is that a idea i must do with all software bdmurray?
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134325 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade to Next O.S. Level Kills Present O.S." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134325
[08:12] <bdmurray> polopolo: no, not with all software.
[08:13] <polopolo> only the software that does not effect the system (like openoffice.org) ?
[08:14] <bdmurray> polopolo: It really depends on the package.  Is it primarily developed by Ubuntu or somone else?
[08:15] <polopolo> openoffice by someone else ;)
[08:16] <bdmurray> It would also be ideal if we checked to see if the original piece of software has the bug too.  That way we can help improve the original piece of software.
[08:17] <polopolo> But what if it only on ubuntu?
[08:17] <bdmurray> Then that information is useful for Ubuntu's openoffice.org team.
[08:18] <polopolo> okey
[08:19] <bdmurray> Am I explaining this well?
[08:20] <polopolo> I understand
[08:20] <polopolo> good for someone with a age like me :P
[08:20] <polopolo> I mean that
[08:21] <polopolo> I have a very young age
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134326 in ubuntu "LiveCD does not load in Windows 98 PC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134326
[08:21] <bdmurray> Admittedly, openoffice.org is a tough software package to work on.
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #134327 in scummvm (universe) "scummvm doesn't have menu icon in Kubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134327
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134328 in bzflag (universe) "bzflag has no icon in K menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134328
[08:25] <polopolo> hmmmm, strange
[08:25] <polopolo> I new ubuntu install solves the .doc problem on bug #134276
[08:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134276 in openoffice.org "OOO crashes opening this doc file" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134276
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #134329 in freedroid (universe) "freedroid not installed into K menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134329
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134330 in ubuntu "Ubuntu download mirror (ubuntu.cs.wisc.edu) does not work" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134330
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #134331 in gdebi (main) "gdebi should search for .debs in current folder" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134331
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134334 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "firefox-granparadiso crashes when I have full disk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134334
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134336 in tasks (universe) "Please sponsor tasks upload" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134336
[08:58] <calc> bdmurray:  bug #134276 works in ubuntu gutsy
[08:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 134276 in openoffice.org "OOO crashes opening this doc file" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134276
[08:58] <calc> bdmurray: or should i think
[08:59] <bdmurray> calc: Hey there, I was interested in the best way to test openoffice.org bugs.
[08:59] <ScottK> calc: It crashed on Gutsy for me
[09:00] <calc> ScottK: hmm, oh crap i have icedtea debs installed
[09:00] <calc> ScottK: that might be the reason
[09:00] <calc> bdmurray: before it is forwarded upstream it has to be tested on the upstream version, so have to install that one and see if it works or not
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #134338 in ubuntu "Feature Request: Sound in HDA-Intel only with the version 1.0.14a from CVS (2007/08/15)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134338
[09:01] <calc> bdmurray: some of the bugs are due to use using gij instead of sun java to compile the code, maybe in this case
[09:01] <calc> since icedtea seems to work that might be the case for this bug
[09:03] <calc> also in this particular case the person who was forwarding it upstream couldn't even reproduce the crash on his system, which is helpful to be reproducible before sending it upstream
[09:04] <calc> or at least the bug seems to indicate he wasn't able to reproduce it
[09:04] <bdmurray> calc: and is that the upstream windows version or the upstream linux version?
[09:04] <calc> bdmurray: upstream linux version
[09:04] <ScottK> calc: Crashes for me  every time.
[09:05] <calc> ScottK: if you haven't tested with the upstream linux version its very likely its due to ubuntu compiling it with gij
[09:05] <calc> i can't reproduce the crash with my icedtea compiled debs
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134339 in stardict (universe) "Please sponsor stardict upload" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134339
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134340 in synaptic (main) "A filter for "top" packages in Synaptic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134340
[09:06] <calc> btw for anyone that doesn't know icedtea is the openjdk modified to only include free bits
[09:06] <calc> its not in the archive yet since it still needs to be worked on a bit
[09:07] <ScottK> OK.
[09:08] <bdmurray> calc: and the upstream linux version is only available for 32 bit still right?
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134341 in beagle (main) "beagle ftbfs" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134341
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134342 in ubuntu "[needs packaging]  Themeampache" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134342
[09:12] <calc> bdmurray: i believe so yes
[09:15] <wousser> bdmurray, ScottK: i got a reply to your questions, will you please see bug #67141 and tell against which package it must be filled?
[09:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67141 in ubuntu "GREP_OPTION can break system scripts" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67141
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #134343 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[Gutsy]  GDM logout hangs if Power Manager is disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134343
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #134344 in ubuntu "Feature Request: wifi driver rt73 (Ralink device) in Gutsy runs only with the rt73-cvs-2007072709 version from CVS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134344
[09:19] <ScottK> wousser: I'd say not a security issue and package is grep.
[09:22] <wousser> ScottK: oke
[09:28] <bdmurray> wousser: the security team considers bugs that cross privelege boundaries or cause the loss of data / privacy as security bugs
[09:31] <wousser> bdmurray: oke, i will remember that
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134346 in traceroute (main) "Please sync traceroute (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134346
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134347 in pidgin (main) "pidgin doesn't shutdown gracefully" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134347
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #134350 in balsa (universe) "balsa - insertion point for reply" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134350
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #134351 in ubuntu "Sigmatel STAC9200 No Sound/Audio Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134351
[09:47] <cbovy> hi all, beagle is not working with evolution-sharp at this moment in Gutsy. there seems to be a fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/beagle/+bug/128804  Who is able to do a recompile with mentioned patch?
[09:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 128804 in beagle "beagled crashes" [Medium,Triaged] 
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134352 in gedit (main) "gedit slow on long lines" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134352
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #134353 in gnome-terminal (main) "C compiler cannot create executables" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134353
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134354 in ldap-auth-client (universe) "/etc/ldap.conf removed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134354
[10:14] <pedro_> what's the name of the applet that shows the battery status in kde?
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #134356 in ubuntu "BCM4318 is recognized but not connecting." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134356
[10:15] <ScottK> pedro_: probably kde-guidance or something similar.
[10:15] <bdmurray> pedro_: kde-guidance I think
[10:15] <pedro_> k thanks guys
[10:16] <bdmurray> ScottK: jinx you owe me a beer. ;)
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #134358 in hexter (universe) "Please merge hexter (0.6.1-2) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134358
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134359 in rpy (universe) "version mismatch between gutsy GNU R packages and python-rpy package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134359
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #134360 in evolution (main) "crash when changing image alignment in signature" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134360
[10:26] <Kmos> when some bug got fix released, but it has an watch on debian not fixed, i can remove it ?
[10:26] <Kmos> if the ubuntu one is fix released ?
[10:27] <Kmos> bug 131372
[10:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 131372 in yappy "FTBFS in gutsy" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/131372
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #134361 in ubuntu "Could you update Transmission please?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134361
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134367 in gtkguitune (universe) "Missing menu entry for gtkguitune" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134367
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #134366 in pidgin (main) "[Gutsy]  Pidgin freezes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134366
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134368 in banshee (universe) "[gutsy]  banshe makes "$HOME directory in users home directory on start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134368
[11:48] <ubotu> New bug: #134370 in totem (main) "Video dosen't play correctly in Totem" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134370
[11:48] <ubotu> New bug: #134371 in rhythmbox (main) "This is a bug in Rhythmbox or GStreamer." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134371
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #134373 in ubuntu "Google Earth Overlay Map Problem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134373
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134374 in ubuntu "system lockup after entering password in gksudo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134374
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #134375 in evince (main) "Evince Document Viewer " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134375
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134378 in ubuntu "Feature Request: Provide a single configuration file for user settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134378
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #134379 in ubuntu "Mouse speeds settings flip-flopped" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134379
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134381 in firestarter (universe) "Firestarter crashes when event list is too long" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134381
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #134382 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "no sound output for NVidia MCP51 HDA" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/134382