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[04:16] <defendguin> i just upgraded gutsy to the newest kernel and now my sound is gone
[04:16] <BenC> defendguin: hda?
[04:17] <BenC> defendguin: do you have linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-10-generic installed?
[04:17] <defendguin> through the ear phones works fine
[04:17] <defendguin> one sec
[04:19] <defendguin> yes its installed
[04:20] <BenC> headphones work but speakers don't?
[04:20] <defendguin> correct
[04:21] <defendguin> maybe the sound is in audible 
[04:21] <defendguin> i tried adjusting volume and running the tests but nothing
[04:23] <defendguin> under preferences the Sound option i tried running those audio tests with nothing 
[04:39] <defendguin> BenC: any idea?
[04:40] <BenC> defendguin: yeah, the new snd-hda-intel driver is broke for you, will get fixed in next upload
[04:40] <defendguin> BenC: ok i'll live with it
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[04:42] <defendguin> BenC: how did it get broken?
[04:43] <BenC> defendguin: the newer version fixed some things, but I expected it would break others. We didn't have a chance to back it out before this upload
[04:43] <defendguin> what did it fix?
[04:44] <BenC> IBM t60/t61, Dell 1420/1521
[04:46] <defendguin> hmmm
[04:47] <defendguin> i have to add the i8042.nomux  kernel option for my laptop or else the touchpad is broken when i come back from suspend is there any way i can get that fixed?
[04:48] <defendguin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/86820
[04:51] <defendguin> its annoying as hell
[04:52] <BenC> defendguin: dmi entry for your laptop
[04:52] <defendguin> ?
[04:52] <defendguin> sorry,   what is a dmi entry?
[04:54] <BenC> sudo dmidecode > dmi.txt
[04:54] <BenC> that file can be used to add an entry specific to your model/bios-version of laptop
[04:55] <defendguin> so if i upgrade my bios is might mess up that?
[04:56] <defendguin> would you like me to attach that txt file?
[05:02] <BenC> yeah, attach the file
[05:03] <BenC> upgrade your bios first, and if it doesn't fix it, we can add the exclusion
[05:04] <defendguin> the bios is the newest available version 
[05:05] <defendguin> just ask in the ticket to have an exclusion added for my laptop and add the file?
[05:06] <BenC> yeah
[05:06] <defendguin> ok done
[05:06] <BenC> thanks
[05:07] <defendguin> let me done some testing and i'll add that info in a few
[05:08] <defendguin> suspend is very flaky for me sometimes things work sometimes they don't
[05:08] <defendguin> it's hard to say what breaks what
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[05:17] <defendguin> hmm that seems to work well
[05:19] <defendguin> BenC: you said it was called an exception?
[05:22] <BenC> defendguin: depending, it's probably called a blacklist
[05:23] <defendguin> well i want to make the right request in the ticket
[05:33] <BenC> defendguin: it will be understood
[05:33] <defendguin> thanks
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[06:40] <sparr> is there a [k] ubuntu packaged kernel with CONFIGURE_TIMER_STATS enabled?
[06:40] <sparr> for powertop
[06:42] <kylem> uhm. yes. all of them.
[06:45] <sparr> ok, ill upgrade then, thanks
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[09:21] <kraut> moin
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[10:16] <Company> morning
[10:17] <Company> i'm on a macbook with recent gutsy, and gnome-power-manager doesn't show battery status info
[10:17] <Company> what to do?
[10:17] <Company> it didn't work with the last kernel either, the ones before worked fine
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[10:23] <Company> #129388
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[02:00] <abogani> BenC, amitk_: Could you tell me why nvidia and fglrx are not present in l-r-m 2.6.22-10-rt, please ?
[02:01] <_MMA_> abogani: I was about to. PM. :)
[02:01] <amitk_> abogani: because nobody tweaked the config perhaps?
[02:08] <abogani> amitk_: What config ?
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[02:09] <amitk_> kernel config? Or is the source missing?
[02:12] <abogani> amitk_: AFAIK Nothing missing.
[02:12] <abogani>  I resolved all tech and legal issues. I don't understand why, if exist a problem with a -rt, no person tell me....
[02:12] <_MMA_> abogani: I PM'ed you with my chat with Ben.
[02:13] <_MMA_> It has the info there.
[02:34] <amitk_> abogani: I don't run -rt. BenC might know.
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[02:38] <BenC> abogani: after tribe-5, I'll be uploading an lrm that to work with -rt and -xen
[02:38] <zul> yay
[02:40] <_MMA_> w00t! Morning Ben.
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[03:24] <verwilst> isn't the latest kernel upload -10.30? :
[03:24] <verwilst> :)
[03:24] <amitk_> verwilst: yes
[03:25] <verwilst> i'm wondering, when will the new xen kernels be compiled for 64bit?
[03:26] <amitk_> zul should know :)
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[03:27] <verwilst> i would really like to know, since i installed my new colocation server with the i386 -10-xen kernel now
[03:27] <verwilst> but i would prefer to do everything in 64bit instead
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[03:52] <isidoro> hi guys someone is on line?
[03:53] <ScottK> Yes
[03:53] <isidoro> hi scottk
[03:53] <isidoro> are you expert with hal demon?
[03:53] <ScottK> No.
[03:53] <ScottK> If you have a question, just ask it.
[03:54] <isidoro> i have a stupid but annoing problem....  a usb pen stik is mount with ipod icon than yellow usb esternal disk icon
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[03:54] <isidoro> in feisty
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[03:55] <isidoro> hal says block.is_volume = true  (bool) but is wrong that's a storage not a volume
[03:56] <isidoro> another usb pen stik hal says block.is_volume = false  (bool) and shows many more options for storage
[03:57] <isidoro> that one has ipod icon hal shows many more option for volume
[03:58] <isidoro> I am not able how to teach to hal that particular pen is hard disk not a ipod 
[03:59] <isidoro> no one has ideas???
[03:59] <isidoro> :-(
[04:00] <ScottK> isidoro: Of the top of my head, I'm not sure why you chose #ubuntu-kernel to ask that question.  HAL isn't part of the kernel.
[04:03] <isidoro> ScottK: ok where can i discuss about it?? on which room?
[04:03] <ScottK> #ubuntu since it's a support question, not a development question.
[04:03] <zul> amitk_: hmm?
[04:04] <zul> amitk_: oh yeah there is a patch i havent submitted yet
[04:04] <verwilst> zul: for 64biT?
[04:04] <zul> verwilst: yep
[04:04] <verwilst> so next version of the kernel will be amd64 too?
[04:04] <zul> hopefully
[04:04] <verwilst> if so, i'm not bringing my colo server to the datacenter yet :)
[04:05] <verwilst> but i'll reinstall it so it's all 64bit ;)
[04:06] <verwilst> zul: that xen kernel is heaven :)
[04:06] <verwilst> you still have to use ethtool tx off, but hey
[04:06] <verwilst> it's certainly better ( read: easier ) than compiling my own kernel or using the 2.6.18 from xensource :)
[04:06] <zul> verwilst: thanks
[04:07] <verwilst> zul: if you can provide me with a build of your new kernel, i'll be more than happy to test it out
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[04:55] <zul> verwilst: i can put up the patch somewhere for you to test
[04:55] <zul> send an email to remind me
[04:55] <verwilst> zul: will do
[04:55] <zul> zulcss@gmail.com
[04:55] <verwilst> zul: you have an estimate when the new kernel could appear?
[04:56] <verwilst> ( i wanted to have my colo live starting from sept :)
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[04:56] <zul> verwilst: no idea
[04:56] <verwilst> zul: and what exactly does the patch do?
[04:56] <verwilst> zul: so i can add amd64 in debian/control, debuild, and use it all 64bity? ;)
[04:57] <verwilst> ( or was it debian/rules )
[04:57] <verwilst> zul: it it a dpatch file?
[04:57] <verwilst> is*
[04:57] <zul> verwilst: nope its a diff
[04:58] <verwilst> oh
[04:58] <zul> verwilst: grab the latest tree from git and do a fakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-xen, it will generat the deb and headers for you
[04:59] <verwilst> uh
[04:59] <verwilst> ubuntu-git?
[04:59] <verwilst> i'm really at home at ubuntu kernel compilation stuffs :)
[04:59] <verwilst> i usually do apt-get source linux-source-xxx and a debuild :D
[05:00] <zul> nope you need the git tree from kernel.ubuntu.com
[05:01] <verwilst> zul/ubuntu-gutsy-xen-3.1.git probably
[05:01] <verwilst> never used git either :d
[05:02] <verwilst> so i can learn it ;)
[05:02] <zul> nope ubuntu/ubuntu-gutsy.git and then apply the patch once you send me an email (zulcss@gmail.com) and ill send it tonight when i get home
[05:02] <verwilst> oh
[05:03] <verwilst> so just checkout, patch manually, get in the root, and do "fakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-xen"
[05:03] <verwilst>  voila
[05:03] <verwilst> ?
[05:03] <zul> yep
[05:03] <verwilst> will that compile 99 kernels like my debuild did? :)
[05:03] <verwilst> -rt, -server, -generic, ... :)
[05:03] <zul> nope just the one
[05:04] <verwilst> what's the patch for?
[05:04] <verwilst> amd64 compilation fixes or something?
[05:04] <zul> yep
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[05:19] <mhb> hello folks, restricted-manager is getting a lot of bugreports for the lirc_gpio marked as a restricted module, but I've been told that it's a kernel bug and it's being worked on. Is there a central bugreport I can link duplicates to?
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[06:00] <verwilst> zul: fetching git tree ;)
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[06:37] <verwilst> zul: kernel ready and waiting for patch ;)
[06:42] <zul> verwilst: well you are going to have to wait a bit longer since im not home from work yet
[06:43] <verwilst> yeah sure no prob
[06:43] <verwilst> you told me already :)
[06:43] <zul> ill send it tongith
[06:43] <verwilst> you in USA?
[06:43] <zul> canada
[06:43] <verwilst> ( btw you're in private chat too :) )
[06:43] <verwilst> oh
[06:43] <verwilst> that's like gmt-7 or something?
[06:43] <zul> dont know
[06:44] <verwilst> well, no hurry :)
[06:45] <verwilst> zul: i guess that's one of the errors your patch fixes: http://pastebin.ca/668137
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[06:50] <zul> verwilst: one of them
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[07:04] <BlueDevil> hello, can someone help me build the NVIDIA driver 100.14.11 as a package please?
[07:04] <BlueDevil> i'm using feisty
[07:04] <bdmurray> kylem: with the new kernel my volume keys are affecting headphone volume instead of speaker volume.  What would be needed for that bug report?
[07:05] <kylem> amixer output
[07:05] <kylem> i know things are kind of wonky with alsa right now, i'm working to fix it in the next upload
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[07:06] <bdmurray> okay, I won't bother then
[07:07] <kylem> can you put the amixer output on rookery:public_html or something for me though?
[07:07] <kylem> also cat /proc/asound/cards (iirc that's the path)
[07:09] <soysamurai> I know that this isn't the right place for this question technically, but maybe someone can point me to the right place ;) I'm working on an ebtables module and I was looking for someone who has more experience with the bridging code (and network internals) than I.. 
[07:09] <soysamurai> The #kernel channel is deathly silent and #ebtables is dead 
[07:10] <bdmurray> kylem: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/bdmurray-laptop-sound.txt
[07:10] <kylem> thanks.
[07:11] <bdmurray> Is there a workaround I can use in the meantime?
[07:11] <kylem> soysamurai, try #kernelnewbies on oftc? (sorry, i don't know too much about the network stack)
[07:11] <kylem> bdmurray, tbqh, i'm not sure what's going on there yet.
[07:11] <kylem> i think the controls got reordered or something
[07:11] <bdmurray> kylem: I could boot the old kernel then
[07:12] <soysamurai> kylem: thanks, I just figured someone in here might have an inkling of where to look I'll see if it's more lively over there 
[07:13] <kylem> bdmurray, oh, that would be useful
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[07:20] <bdmurray> kylem: the amixer output was quite different I updated the file on rookery
[07:20] <kylem> thanks, i think i knew what's wrong now
[07:21] <kylem> or rather, i think i know what broke
[07:21] <bdmurray> cool
[07:33] <bdmurray> zul: ping
[07:34] <zul> bdmurray: pong
[07:35] <zul> bdmurray: whats up?
[07:35] <bdmurray> zul: At one point in time you were working on bug 84965.  What is the current status of it?  Has the patch made it into Gutsy?
[07:35] <zul> remind me again which one is that/
[07:35] <bdmurray> Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard support
[07:36] <zul> ah no it hasnt, i can get it again this weekend hopefully
[07:36] <bdmurray> That'd be cool - it seems like a nice to have
[07:49] <verwilst> hmm gutsy will be sweet :)
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[09:15] <mhb> whom can I talk with about linux-restricted-modules?
[09:15] <mhb> err, bad sentence :o)
[09:17] <doko> devel/linux-libc-dev is missing usr/include/linux/awe_voice.h - is this intended?
[09:18] <mhb> is there a developer of linux-restricted-modules in this channel?
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[09:20] <kylem> mhb, yes, several, just ask your question
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[09:23] <mhb> okay. It seems modules.alias.override/ath_hal won't list an Apple MacBook (black non-pro) wireless card. Do you prefer to have a bug about it or is there a faster procedure (I guess adding a line there is not really hard) ?
[09:23] <Mithrandir> please file bugs.
[09:24] <doko> ../include/check_data.h:38:27: error: linux/ip_masq.h: No such file or directory
[09:24] <doko> ../include/check_data.h:39:25: error: net/ip_masq.h: No such file or directory
[09:24] <doko> BenC, kylem: linux-libc-dev doesn't look too well ...
[09:25] <doko> plus linux/awe_voice.h
[09:26] <mhb> Mithrandir: yeah, I was afraid you'd say that :o) my last easy-to-fix bug related to the kernel has been unnoticed for over a year now, so I had to ask
[09:28] <BenC> doko: linux-libc-dev only installs headers required for libc
[09:28] <BenC> can't see awe_voice.h being needed for that :)
[09:29] <doko> BenC: apparently these were inclued earlier? at least this breaks sdl-mixer1.2 and keepalived. that change was done in the past three weeks?
[09:30] <BenC> doko: then those things need real linux headers, either from linux-headers-2.6.22-10, or included locally
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[09:30] <doko> BenC: jsut don't understand why we break somtething like this just before feature freeze ;-P
[09:31] <BenC> doko: I can't see that being the case...we (kernel team) don't remove headers from there, the linux upstream build decides what goes and what doesn't
[09:31] <BenC> and 2.6.22 has been final for longer than 3 weeks, so there's almost zero chance something changed recently
[09:32] <doko> ok, filing bug reports for those packages
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[11:54] <bdmurray> kylem: there seem to be a fair bit of bugs about sound with 22-10 is there some way to consolidate them?
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